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Speaker 1: The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com
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Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club.
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Speaker 2: Cowboys.
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Speaker 3: This is Cowboys Storyline with Nick Eatman.
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Speaker 2: What's up everyone, Welcome to Cowboys Storyline. It is Tuesday,
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Speaker 2: May the twenty eight, and we're just trying to get
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Speaker 2: this show off the ground here. It's been crazy day
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Speaker 2: already at the Star. Not a lot happening, you know
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Speaker 2: how it is. We don't like to talk weather on
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Speaker 2: this podcast, but if the weather is the reason that
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Speaker 2: things have changed, then we certainly need to. Bad bad
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Speaker 2: storms last night in Dallas early this morning actually, and
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Speaker 2: it's really it's affected a lot of power the building.
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Speaker 2: The lights have just come on here one o'clock Central time,
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Speaker 2: and I don't think that the lights have been on
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Speaker 2: for more than an hour. It's canceled a lot of
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Speaker 2: the other shows already this morning, the break and talking
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Speaker 2: we're supposed to go. Uh, stay tuned to the website
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Speaker 2: and the app for that schedule and when they things
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Speaker 2: will be changed. But a lot of stuff expected to
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Speaker 2: happen today at the Star and it didn't. So they're
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Speaker 2: in the middle of their OTAs which which they'll they'll
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Speaker 2: resume tomorrow. So crazy, crazy day. A lot of stuff
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Speaker 2: happening more than anything. Hope everyone is safe with their
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Speaker 2: homes and a lot of damage has been done in
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Speaker 2: this area. So we're hoping to get some calls and
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Speaker 2: some texts. You know, we we the text lines there
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Speaker 2: call in eight eight eight eight five five two two
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Speaker 2: nine seven. Phone lines are open, uh at the moment
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Speaker 2: as we get this thing started. So I know, it's
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Speaker 2: been kind of crazy. Some of the other shows canceled
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Speaker 2: may have kind of affected everybody thinking that we were
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Speaker 2: not doing shows, And honestly, we were about to cancel
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Speaker 2: this one until the lights came on. Lights came on,
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Speaker 2: So hoping we can still get through a show. As
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Speaker 2: Chris Beam just said, this could be the longest show,
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Speaker 2: because it might be the shortest show we've ever done.
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Speaker 2: So we'll see, we'll see how it goes. If you're listening, though,
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Speaker 2: call in if you said, oh, I've never called before,
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Speaker 2: today might be a day to get in. I'm telling
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Speaker 2: you right now. Eight eight eight a five five two
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Speaker 2: two nine seven. All right. As I said, OTA's happening
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Speaker 2: this week. The day for the media is Thursday, So
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Speaker 2: we'll get a chance to kind of see the players
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Speaker 2: again on the field together. That's also the time they'll
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Speaker 2: talk to the media. They have they have a media
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Speaker 2: day event that they did is a two day thing.
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Speaker 2: They do kind of our in house internal media. A
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Speaker 2: lot of stuff that you see, you know, you see
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Speaker 2: on the on the Sunday night shows, how with the
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Speaker 2: player will say his name, you know, in the intros
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Speaker 2: before the as the game gets started. A lot of
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Speaker 2: that stuff is filmed here and this is the day
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Speaker 2: that that's done. We had a station where we were
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Speaker 2: going to do some some cool things as well, so
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Speaker 2: we'll see if we get a chance to do that.
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Speaker 2: But that's what was what was canceled today, at least
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Speaker 2: for today's portion of media days. So that was always
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Speaker 2: a fun time to to be able to see a
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Speaker 2: lot of the players come and do some things and
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Speaker 2: couldn't help it when there's no power. There's only so
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Speaker 2: much you can do there, all right, But let's let's
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Speaker 2: try to get through this show. We'll see what we
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Speaker 2: can do. Text question Randy se Randy Seedal says, do
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Speaker 2: you think something could be added to the players bargeting
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Speaker 2: agreement like no single player's salary should represent more than
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Speaker 2: twenty five percent of the team's salary cap. Well, that's
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Speaker 2: gonna be tricky obviously, you know, because I don't know
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Speaker 2: if that's the right number. Maybe it's a little higher
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Speaker 2: than that, who knows. But yeah, I mean I think
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Speaker 2: there's something, there's something that needs to be done, without
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Speaker 2: a doubt. If it's not that, it'll be you know,
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Speaker 2: I think the NBA has got something there. Would they
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Speaker 2: do with the exemptions and and and max contracts and players.
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Speaker 2: It needs to be something like that because this is
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Speaker 2: getting out of hand, and I think the quarterback numbers
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Speaker 2: is getting higher and higher, moving at a pace faster
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Speaker 2: than the actual salary cap it as a whole. And
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Speaker 2: so it's and it's a snowball effect. I mean, you
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Speaker 2: see these contracts get done and these guys get paid,
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Speaker 2: and they're the highest paid player in the league, are
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Speaker 2: at this position, and before you know it, they're like
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Speaker 2: in tenth then they're fifteenth. So that happens, and that's
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Speaker 2: you know, it's too bad, But I mean that's that's
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Speaker 2: just kind of the way this thing rolls. And so
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Speaker 2: you know, when you're doing deals, you can't almost have
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Speaker 2: to project that that's why the guys are getting so
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Speaker 2: much money. And it just keeps stacking on top of
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Speaker 2: each other. It's getting out of hand. So yeah, something
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Speaker 2: definitely needs to be done. And I don't think you're
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Speaker 2: wrong with that line of thinking. They just got to
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Speaker 2: figure out which which one it would be, and you know,
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Speaker 2: and you know, maybe there's something I kind of think
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Speaker 2: that'd be. It'd be interesting to see if there's like
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Speaker 2: one one spot on your team on the thirty million
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Speaker 2: dollar exemption something like that that everybody has on their
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Speaker 2: team and you can use it for whoever you want
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Speaker 2: and it doesn't count to the cap, and you know,
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Speaker 2: use it as a quarterback obviously, you know these quarterbacks
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Speaker 2: making more than that, but at least you can apply
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Speaker 2: that or whatever. There's just got to be something. And
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Speaker 2: again I'm not I'm never going to be an economics
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Speaker 2: major and all that kind of stuff, math wizard, but
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Speaker 2: there's got to be something done because this is getting
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Speaker 2: out of hand. All right, Let's go to our first caller.
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Speaker 2: It's Dylan in Northport, Florida. Dylan, what's up and how's
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Speaker 2: it going good? How you doing?
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Speaker 4: I'm good. I was thinking the other day, I don't
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Speaker 4: think I've ever given you my favorite wrestler. And I'm
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Speaker 4: not into wrestling too much, but when I was a kid,
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Speaker 4: I was kind of the Rock and Stone Cold and
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Speaker 4: all those guys. But I was thinking about who Rakishi
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Speaker 4: Man Rakishi with the stink base?
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Speaker 5: Right?
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Speaker 2: That was that guy, right right? Yeah?
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Speaker 4: We need some of that around here on that defensive line.
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Speaker 4: We need some stink based guys, just some big dudes
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Speaker 4: that just think face some opponents, you know, up in
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Speaker 4: the middle.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I mean does that stop the run? I
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Speaker 2: mean like, like the face is all good, but it's
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Speaker 2: usually covered by a face mask and a shield and
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Speaker 2: all that. You know what. Yeah, I mean, hey, whatever
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Speaker 2: stops the run. I don't think that many offensive linemen
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Speaker 2: and running backs are going to be worried about that.
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Speaker 2: But you know what, if I remember the wrestler you're
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Speaker 2: talking about, I mean he's a pretty big guy, right,
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Speaker 2: pretty wide body.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, he was like a sumo wrestler guy a little
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Speaker 4: bit smaller, but it's kind of like a Stumo type pick.
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Speaker 4: He was sit on people. That's that's want people to
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Speaker 4: sit on our defensive lineman to sit on some people
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Speaker 4: to put him over man clog up some lanes.
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Speaker 2: That's all I want, exactly. That's you know that, that's
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Speaker 2: the intriguing part of their seventh round pick, Justin Rogers.
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Speaker 2: I mean, I'm not I'm not calling him a sumo
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Speaker 2: wrestler type guy, but he takes he takes some space,
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Speaker 2: and you know he's not it doesn't seem like he's
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Speaker 2: trying to. You're not really going to move the pocket
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Speaker 2: either way, you know that, which is fine. Don't get
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Speaker 2: pushed back. You're not expected to really make a big
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Speaker 2: you know, cause going north, but just get in the way,
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Speaker 2: take up a double team and let someone else go
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Speaker 2: and make the play.
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Speaker 4: And you know you just don't let the lineman reach
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Speaker 4: the second level.
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Speaker 2: That's all I want.
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Speaker 4: Just let the linebackers flow.
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Speaker 2: That's it exactly. I mean, you imagine, the greatest linebackers
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Speaker 2: in the history of the game typically had defensive tackles
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Speaker 2: that are either Pro Bowlers or maybe even Hall of famers.
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Speaker 2: I mean, you know, I'm not saying they weren't great players,
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Speaker 2: but they had people in front of them doing stuff.
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Speaker 2: And when those guys are out, it's funny how different
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Speaker 2: the linebackers look.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's no joke. And then maybe introduced favorite Cowboys moment.
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Speaker 4: I know a lot of people have called me with
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Speaker 4: some of the other stuff, so maybe something new for
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Speaker 4: us to talk about. My favorite Cowboys moment was seven
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Speaker 4: the Bills game. Only game I've ever cried over before
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Speaker 4: in my life. And I don't even know why I
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Speaker 4: cried over. It wasn't even that big of a deal.
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Speaker 4: I was out of the conference, but just the emotional
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Speaker 4: roller coaster within that game really sent me on a spiral.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, that was. That was an emotional season. There's probably
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Speaker 2: a lot of crying moments in that season, good ones,
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Speaker 2: bad ones. Uh, Yeah, that that's that was one of
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Speaker 2: those games. And it's it's you know, there's a lot
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Speaker 2: of people that could say that was Remo's best game
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Speaker 2: he's ever played, and they also maybe his worst and
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Speaker 2: so and that's why it was his best game because
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Speaker 2: he over he overcame his worst moments. And you know,
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Speaker 2: he threw like five touchdowns in that game, just two
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Speaker 2: of them went to the Bills, you know, So it
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Speaker 2: was it was I don't know if you throw that many,
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Speaker 2: but I mean it was. It was a tough, weird.
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Speaker 4: Game and turnovers. The two field goals at the end
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Speaker 4: I mean, I never see anything like that before in
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Speaker 4: my life.
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Speaker 6: Yeah, well it was great.
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Speaker 2: That was a little bit when it was just starting
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Speaker 2: to happen where the coach would call the time out
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Speaker 2: to freeze the kicker. It. It was just kind of
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Speaker 2: in that in that time where that was becoming a thing.
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Speaker 2: Now you see it a lot now. They they they
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Speaker 2: don't you know, they really don't snap the ball, you
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Speaker 2: know that like like that, but they you know. The
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Speaker 2: interesting about that second kick by Nick Folk that went
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Speaker 2: through the upright is LP Lattice or the deep snapper
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Speaker 2: actually told them in the huddle right before the second
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Speaker 2: kick that I'm going to pause this time. I'm gonna
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Speaker 2: I'm gonna have a little bit of a pause in
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Speaker 2: a delay. And if you notice on the left side
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Speaker 2: of the Cowboys line, they actually drew an off size penalty.
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Speaker 4: On he got back though.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, they threw the flag too. So if he had
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Speaker 2: missed that, they were going to move five yards forward
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Speaker 2: and I don't know if he would have any leg left,
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Speaker 2: but he was going to have to try. And at
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Speaker 2: that point, I don't know it was fifty three because
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Speaker 2: I remember too said it was one hundred and six
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Speaker 2: yard field goals, so move it up before he didn't
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Speaker 2: have to make him drilled it, and that's probably why
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Speaker 2: it made the Pro Bowl that year, just that moment
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Speaker 2: right there. I mean, he had a great season, but
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Speaker 2: everyone remembers that. Those those kicks.
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Speaker 4: I remember the I remember the off sides I ever
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Speaker 4: realized all this time, I didn't realize actually threw a
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Speaker 4: flag on that. I remember he he jumped off and
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Speaker 4: then well he got back, but then he was really
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Speaker 4: delayed in getting to the you know, across the line
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Speaker 4: at that point. Yeah, that's yeah, that's a cool little
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Speaker 4: piece of insight there.
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Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, Well that whole game has got weird stuff.
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Speaker 2: I mean I've said it before. I mean they you know,
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Speaker 2: they ran out of footballs, so they only had one
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Speaker 2: football on offense. They only the equipment manager was tired
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Speaker 2: of getting them taken. When they went to games, the
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Speaker 2: one with the Cowboys logo, they would take twenty four balls,
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Speaker 2: and when they went to AFC places that they never
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Speaker 2: went to, they would always get stolen, swiped by other
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Speaker 2: ball boys, other people. So they said, screw that, we're
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Speaker 2: only taking twelve. So they took twelve footballs. No big deal,
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Speaker 2: it'll be fine. Well, I mean, Romo throws five picks
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Speaker 2: and loses a fumble, so every defensive player takes the
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Speaker 2: ball away. There was a kick return for a touchdown
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Speaker 2: somehow that was a Cowboys ball that was used. So
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Speaker 2: next thing, you know, I mean, within the course of
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Speaker 2: the game, they're really only down to one football, and
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Speaker 2: there is a play where they throw an incomplete pass.
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Speaker 2: Usually the balls way down the field. They'll just take
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Speaker 2: one from the side they go and get that football.
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Speaker 2: You can tell you see it on the screen. They're
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Speaker 2: throwing that football back. It's the only one that they had.
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Speaker 2: I'm sure they would have gotten a penalty or something
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Speaker 2: and finished the game with other balls. But that so
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Speaker 2: that's another dynamic that was going on in that game
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Speaker 2: as well. It was it was, it was weird. It
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Speaker 2: was crazy. Yeah, there was a fire outside of the
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Speaker 2: of the stadium, a fire, a fire that actually blew
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Speaker 2: up some of the network trucks. I don't know Chris
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Speaker 2: might even remember that if if that, but I mean,
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Speaker 2: I know Marion Barber's house got broken into that morning
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Speaker 2: when they got back from Buffalo, comes home and his
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Speaker 2: whole house had been broken. So that was that was
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Speaker 2: a sad thing. There. I mean, there was some other
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Speaker 2: sad moments that kind of happened, and that whole that
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Speaker 2: whole little course of the game. So really really an
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Speaker 2: interesting game just on top of what you actually see
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Speaker 2: in those four quarters.
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Speaker 4: So yeah, and it's amazing that, I mean, you know
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Speaker 4: all this stuff right because you're part of the US
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Speaker 4: outsiders just looking at Yeah, I had no idea about
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Speaker 4: any of that stuff. That that's absolutely amazing.
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Speaker 2: It's almost like a documentary needs to be made about that,
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Speaker 2: about that game only.
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Speaker 4: Oh yeah deep blue Blue. Yeah, real quick, my actual
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Speaker 4: call here, you're good man.
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Speaker 2: You might just take it. Take the whole show with
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Speaker 2: me here, do it.
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Speaker 4: I have a couple of guys here, and we won't
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Speaker 4: really know an answer, I guess until probably some of
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Speaker 4: the preseason games and like even training camp and all that.
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Speaker 4: But I have a couple of what's the plan guys
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Speaker 4: I'm looking at here, and that's Trey Lance and duce
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Speaker 4: Vaughn and especially Deuce Svawn. We kind of know that
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Speaker 4: Tree Lance is going to get, you know, the preseason
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Speaker 4: snaps and all that, but like when they drafted duce Vaughan,
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Speaker 4: like what was the plan? Like he wasn't going to
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Speaker 4: go to China and get like this leg extension surgery
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Speaker 4: and become taller. His friend can only support so much weight.
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Speaker 4: So like, what was the like, what was the plan
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Speaker 4: in drafting him? And like are they going to actually
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Speaker 4: give him a chance to do something? Not against the
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Speaker 4: guys like you always say that are going to be
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Speaker 4: you know, grow scree baggers here at some point in time,
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Speaker 4: but the guys that are actually starting and have a
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Speaker 4: chance to make a roster in the NFL, Like, what's
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Speaker 4: what's their plan with him?
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Speaker 2: Well, I mean I think the plan is to was
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Speaker 2: to see if you know, he was a dynamic college
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Speaker 2: player and let's see if it translates. I mean, most
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Speaker 2: of the NFL was saying that he wasn't going to
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Speaker 2: That's why he was he drafted in the sixth round.
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Speaker 2: So the plan was to was to see if if
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Speaker 2: you know, he can overcome even whatever one thinks he
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Speaker 2: you know, he can't. He's got skills. I mean he
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Speaker 2: showed them. He showed them in big games in college.
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Speaker 2: He showed them against some of the top teams. I mean,
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Speaker 2: he's got a highlight of seventy five yard run, sixty
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Speaker 2: yard run against Alabama, I mean like half of the defense.
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Speaker 2: I'm sure he's in the NFL, so you know, I mean,
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Speaker 2: he's he showed it in college and that's what you
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Speaker 2: want to see. I mean, sometimes these guys are wrong
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Speaker 2: about what they think that you know that they can
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Speaker 2: be and and they know they knew him better than
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Speaker 2: any other player because his son, he's the son of
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Speaker 2: Chris Vaughn, who they've seen them, those guys, I mean,
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Speaker 2: Chris Vaughn's been with the team more than ten years.
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Speaker 2: So all these guys, they've seen him grow grow up
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Speaker 2: all you know, all the way throughout, you know, is
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Speaker 2: junior high, high school, college, all these days. So they
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Speaker 2: had a good read on the player. They thought maybe
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Speaker 2: that was the plan, was to see if he had something,
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Speaker 2: and if he does, you can figure out how to
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Speaker 2: utilize those kind of guys punt return, kick return, third
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Speaker 2: down gadget back, things like that, and so you know,
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Speaker 2: it was it was looking promising in the preseason, but
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Speaker 2: you know, the big boys show up in the regular season,
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Speaker 2: it's a little bit different. So now the goal for him,
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Speaker 2: you know, can he make that jump, can he make
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Speaker 2: a leap, can he do a first to second year leap?
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Speaker 2: And show that he can be a difference maker. He's
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Speaker 2: got to break tackles. I mean that's the key. He's
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Speaker 2: got to be able to break tackles well.
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Speaker 4: And he can't be touched as the thing, he's so small,
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Speaker 4: like once you touch me, He's got to juke these
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Speaker 4: guys out. And then he needs his agility, which I
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Speaker 4: know he has. It's just a matter of me able
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Speaker 4: to utilize it.
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Speaker 2: So yeah, well, you know who's the other guy you.
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Speaker 4: Mentioned, Trey Lance. I mean, we kind of know the
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Speaker 4: plan with him, but it'll be interesting to see if
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Speaker 4: he has a really good preseason a do they pull
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Speaker 4: him out of you know, the first two games, do
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Speaker 4: they pull him out of Game three? Do they use
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Speaker 4: him as trade bait? Do they use him as leverage
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Speaker 4: and contract negotiations or is he potentially the start next year.
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Speaker 4: I mean, there's so many angles a thing can go.
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Speaker 4: So I'm really interested to see the plan with him
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Speaker 4: as well.
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Speaker 7: Well.
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Speaker 2: I don't the plan is to play him, that's the plan.
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Speaker 2: The plan is to play him, And you know, I'm
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Speaker 2: not going to compare him to other players, but I
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Speaker 2: mean the plan was to play Tony Romo in the
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Speaker 2: preseason back in two thousand and six, you know, give
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Speaker 2: him the whole game, see what happens. Well, he played
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Speaker 2: pretty well. He had like fourteen straight completions and managed
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Speaker 2: the game well, and they went and they won the game,
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Speaker 2: and you know, and then now it's like, all right, well,
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Speaker 2: now we got to see him again. Now could he
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Speaker 2: actually replace Drew Blood? So one day maybe that that's
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Speaker 2: all it starts. I mean, the you don't get ahead
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Speaker 2: of yourself because you don't just don't know. The plan
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Speaker 2: is to give him a lot of reps in the
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Speaker 2: training camp and the preseason, probably more reps in practice
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Speaker 2: than you would normally see from a third quarterback, which
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Speaker 2: you can do that when you have a second year
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Speaker 2: offense like this, I mean, it's not the first year
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Speaker 2: of an offense, so Dak and Scooper Rush maybe don't
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Speaker 2: need as many reps as they did last year. You
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Speaker 2: kind of understanding what what they got going on, and
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Speaker 2: then you know, you just see see what you've got,
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Speaker 2: See what you've got when when he gets in the game,
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Speaker 2: and then from there you know you'll be able to
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Speaker 2: see you there's been a lot of factors going on.
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Speaker 2: Then you get into the regular season, how the Cowboys
16:34
Speaker 2: playing house, Dak playing what happened around the league? Did
16:37
Speaker 2: he play well enough where another team's like, I'll give
16:40
Speaker 2: you a whatever, I'll give you a first round pick,
16:42
Speaker 2: a second round pick, whatever it is, you know, So
16:45
Speaker 2: that's kind of why they traded for him, just to see.
16:47
Speaker 4: Yeah, and I mean that's it's such an interesting dynamic
16:50
Speaker 4: that if he does play well, like what what actually
16:53
Speaker 4: could possibly have, there'll be so much drama around it.
16:56
Speaker 4: You know, know that already there already is a lot
16:58
Speaker 4: of drama around it, But that's going to be up
17:00
Speaker 4: by one hundred, and it'll just be interesting to see
17:02
Speaker 4: kind of what route the Cowboys go, which Ray and
17:05
Speaker 4: and with they stick to their guns with Dak or
17:07
Speaker 4: what they end up doing. But yeah, you're right, first
17:09
Speaker 4: things first, he's got to play well.
17:10
Speaker 2: That's step one, right, So yeah, well that's that's kind
17:13
Speaker 2: of where where it stands. So, uh well, Dylan, we
17:17
Speaker 2: appreciate the call. You may be one of one today
17:19
Speaker 2: with this. This might be this is all we've got here,
17:23
Speaker 2: but uh, I know we're dealing with some with some
17:25
Speaker 2: technical issues. Uh in some some way. We've had too
17:28
Speaker 2: many calls on these shows. Uh lately, to not to
17:32
Speaker 2: not have it so uh, just dealing with a lot
17:34
Speaker 2: of stuff with weather and and and these phone lines
17:37
Speaker 2: and power. I'm sure it's factoring in with a lot
17:39
Speaker 2: of it. But we really appreciate your call today. A
17:41
Speaker 2: lot of good stuff.
17:43
Speaker 4: All right, thanks Nick Calculator, See you later.
17:45
Speaker 2: All right, that was Dylan. That's our only call right now.
17:49
Speaker 2: We've got the lines are open. Uh, this will be
17:52
Speaker 2: as we said, this will probably be one of the
17:54
Speaker 2: shorter shows that we've done. We'll do it. We'll do
17:56
Speaker 2: another call text question here. This is from Melvin HS. Melvin.
18:00
Speaker 2: He's from Ocean City, New Jersey. Dan Quinn's defense scheme
18:04
Speaker 2: played a lot of big nickel and the safeties were
18:06
Speaker 2: constantly making big plays and creating turnovers. Mike zimmer scheme
18:09
Speaker 2: sounds like he will have a few bigger linebackers on
18:13
Speaker 2: the field instead of hybrid safety. Do you think this
18:15
Speaker 2: will lead to fewer big plays by our secondary? Yeah?
18:21
Speaker 2: I mean I'm trying to think, well, when were the
18:24
Speaker 2: safeties making all these great plays? Like, like, when when
18:28
Speaker 2: did that happen? I mean they made some tackles, but
18:32
Speaker 2: I mean jayvon Curse, I mean he didn't make any
18:34
Speaker 2: plays at the end of the sea. I mean he
18:37
Speaker 2: hasn't he hasn't signed, he hasn't come. I mean he
18:39
Speaker 2: didn't make any big plays last year. I can't remember.
18:43
Speaker 2: I mean Donovan Wilson, I mean he struggled some and
18:46
Speaker 2: for most of the year. Then he finally kind of
18:48
Speaker 2: played okay there towards the end. Hooker, you know, had
18:53
Speaker 2: had a few plays here and there. But I mean
18:55
Speaker 2: you've got me. I mean I sometimes I don't remember
18:58
Speaker 2: a lot that that happened, you know, yesterday, So I
19:00
Speaker 2: can't remember that. But I'm not remembering a munch of
19:03
Speaker 2: safety's making all these great plays. I think I think
19:06
Speaker 2: it was it was, Yeah, it was. It was a
19:07
Speaker 2: nice nice job by Marquis Bell with some of the tackles.
19:12
Speaker 2: But I think this defense suits them better. Yeah, you
19:16
Speaker 2: might have uh, you know, you might have fewer, you
19:20
Speaker 2: might have a little bit more big plays down the field.
19:23
Speaker 2: You might have a hard harder time with tight ends.
19:25
Speaker 2: That That's one thing that I think could happen from
19:28
Speaker 2: a matchup standpoint, because with any mismatch just thinking about basketball, Yeah,
19:33
Speaker 2: guard versus a center, I mean, if it's a rebound,
19:38
Speaker 2: I mean it's probably not good for the guard, or
19:39
Speaker 2: jump balls not good for the guard. But if you're
19:41
Speaker 2: out in the open space, like like let's say Lucas
19:45
Speaker 2: on Rudy Gobert and the game on the line, just hypothetically,
19:48
Speaker 2: you know, it's probably not good for the center. You know,
19:50
Speaker 2: he's gonna look like an ice skater out there. So
19:53
Speaker 2: I'm saying all mismatches are that way. When it's when
19:56
Speaker 2: it's third and nine and you've got that type of
19:59
Speaker 2: linebacker safety up against a tight end, that that's pretty good.
20:03
Speaker 2: When it's third and three and the guard goes and
20:05
Speaker 2: tries to block them, not so good. So I think
20:07
Speaker 2: you're going to see probably more linebackers that can help
20:11
Speaker 2: stop the run. Stopping the run is the key. Uh.
20:15
Speaker 2: They may have a harder time with the tight ends.
20:16
Speaker 2: That that's you know, that's the one thing I could
20:19
Speaker 2: think of. But you have to give up something to
20:20
Speaker 2: get something, and that might be what they do. All right,
20:24
Speaker 2: let's go with another text question here. Actually we'll say
20:28
Speaker 2: that one. We'll go to the call Josh in Chicago.
20:31
Speaker 6: Hey, Nick, how you doing today?
20:32
Speaker 2: How are you?
20:33
Speaker 6: I'm doing great, man, I'm down on the beach. I
20:36
Speaker 6: came in to put the kids down for a nap,
20:38
Speaker 6: was looking to see if I could get on storyline
20:40
Speaker 6: and one call today. Man, So sorry about the technical issues,
20:42
Speaker 6: but I worked out for me.
20:44
Speaker 2: It works out, that's right. So you're in the beach,
20:47
Speaker 2: so you're not in Chicago.
20:48
Speaker 6: No, I'm actually never in Chicago. I'm in the Marine Corps.
20:51
Speaker 6: I'm just from Chicago.
20:52
Speaker 2: There, that works all right?
20:54
Speaker 6: Yeah? Yeah sounds good. Yeah, enjoyed the beach today over
20:57
Speaker 6: the long weekends.
20:58
Speaker 2: All right, cool? What do you got? Man?
21:01
Speaker 6: So I was just gonna comment real quick on the
21:03
Speaker 6: DAK contract that everyone seems to want to talk about.
21:06
Speaker 6: And I think one of the things that's interesting is,
21:08
Speaker 6: if I remember correctly when he signed this deal, I
21:11
Speaker 6: kind of think back to how the franchise tag maybe
21:14
Speaker 6: hurt them with this even even till today, because I
21:17
Speaker 6: think he wanted a short deal and then wanted to
21:20
Speaker 6: be able to renegotiate a free agency again, and that
21:22
Speaker 6: year on the franchise tag kind of pushed off the
21:24
Speaker 6: deal even another year, you know, where he could have
21:27
Speaker 6: maybe already been renegotiated a year ago or two years ago,
21:30
Speaker 6: and we might not even be having this contract talk
21:33
Speaker 6: about DAK, right, now, right, and I do think, oh, sorry,
21:37
Speaker 6: go ahead.
21:38
Speaker 2: Well, I was just saying, you know, it would have
21:40
Speaker 2: been interesting if his contract was up after last season
21:44
Speaker 2: as he led the league in interceptions, you know, right,
21:47
Speaker 2: So it all kind of worked. I don't know if
21:49
Speaker 2: you could say it's all worked out, but it's just
21:52
Speaker 2: this whole his whole career has been I wouldn't call
21:55
Speaker 2: it a roller coaster because he's been better than he's been,
21:58
Speaker 2: you know, not so good. I mean, he's had a
22:00
Speaker 2: really good career. It's just it's just kind of there's
22:03
Speaker 2: been higher points in the year, you know, than others
22:06
Speaker 2: throughout his career, and so you know, it's working out well,
22:10
Speaker 2: but it's still he's got to have a really good
22:11
Speaker 2: season this year if he goes into you know, contract
22:14
Speaker 2: year again.
22:16
Speaker 6: And you know, I'm a Dak guy, so I'll just
22:18
Speaker 6: said I think he'll have a good year this year.
22:20
Speaker 6: And I think part of it is Trey Lance. I
22:21
Speaker 6: hope Trey Lance plays awesome in the preseason. So I
22:24
Speaker 6: think every year that Dak has been put under pressure,
22:27
Speaker 6: whether that was sixteen with Romo or last year coming
22:30
Speaker 6: off the interceptions, he thrives under that pressure, right, And
22:33
Speaker 6: maybe having Trey Lance sitting in the back there or
22:35
Speaker 6: waiting in the wings, might he's playing well. Maybe that
22:38
Speaker 6: you know, propels Dak to play even better in the playoffs.
22:41
Speaker 6: Hopefully we get those playoff wins next year.
22:43
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's weird because he's he's not like he's young,
22:47
Speaker 2: like like Trey Lance is not like he's got three
22:49
Speaker 2: years on his contract, so he's he's he might be
22:52
Speaker 2: waiting in the wings, but he doesn't have a contract
22:55
Speaker 2: for next year. So uh, that's what makes it interesting too.
23:01
Speaker 2: But you're right that you know, Dak has dealt with more,
23:06
Speaker 2: you know, tragedy in his life that has nothing to
23:09
Speaker 2: do with football, you know. And so that's what people
23:13
Speaker 2: don't understand sometimes about athletes, coaches, celebrities, made whatever it is.
23:19
Speaker 2: You don't even have to be on a on a
23:21
Speaker 2: high profile person. But when you're staring adversity in the face,
23:25
Speaker 2: or when you've been you know, at the bottom, you know,
23:28
Speaker 2: rock bottom, how you handle, how you how you get
23:31
Speaker 2: out of that is really what you are and defines
23:35
Speaker 2: your character. And so he is built for moments like this.
23:39
Speaker 2: He was built for that last year and and you
23:42
Speaker 2: know that's why that's why you can yell at me
23:45
Speaker 2: if you want to say, well, then why has he
23:47
Speaker 2: not played well in the playoffs? That that's fair, that's fair.
23:51
Speaker 2: But he's he's built for moments like this, and that's
23:54
Speaker 2: why I think the Cowboys believe that he can get
23:57
Speaker 2: the job done. That he will get the job done.
24:01
Speaker 2: It hasn't happened. He hasn't played as well. I mean,
24:03
Speaker 2: they haven't just lost because of Dak, but they didn't
24:06
Speaker 2: win because of Dak on some of those games either.
24:08
Speaker 2: So let's let's you know, and that even goes back
24:10
Speaker 2: to his rookie year. I mean, he brought him back
24:13
Speaker 2: from a hole that he dug him into.
24:15
Speaker 7: He dog.
24:15
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, that s Green Bay game.
24:17
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, but that's again you say you're a
24:20
Speaker 2: d guy. We all are, I mean honestly, I mean,
24:23
Speaker 2: I everybody loves this guy. I mean of what he does,
24:27
Speaker 2: what he says, who he is as a person, and
24:30
Speaker 2: everyone's rooting for him. But there's been time it just
24:35
Speaker 2: it hasn't worked. And when you're the quarterback, that's what
24:37
Speaker 2: you expect.
24:39
Speaker 6: So yeah, I agree with all that. I and I
24:42
Speaker 6: think he will. I mean, I think this is and
24:44
Speaker 6: if he doesn't, then this year, you know, then maybe
24:46
Speaker 6: it is time to move on.
24:47
Speaker 2: Right.
24:47
Speaker 6: That's kind of the other side of this point. That
24:50
Speaker 6: might work out really well, right if they get out
24:52
Speaker 6: build the line back up, get some good receivers, get
24:54
Speaker 6: a good defense, so get a new coach, do all
24:57
Speaker 6: these things right and just take the band aid off
24:59
Speaker 6: of this season doesn't work out, right, So yeah, I'm
25:02
Speaker 6: really hoping he gets back to that poise that he
25:04
Speaker 6: had his rookie year, especially in the playoffs, because I remember,
25:07
Speaker 6: you know, in twenty sixteen, that poise he always had.
25:09
Speaker 6: It never seemed like the big game was too big
25:12
Speaker 6: for him, and lately the playoffs seemed like they're too
25:14
Speaker 6: big for him. So hopefully gets some that poise back,
25:16
Speaker 6: especially if they make the playoffs this year.
25:18
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, but he needs a running game, There's no
25:21
Speaker 2: doubt about it. Most quarterbacks do. Most quarterbacks do, and
25:24
Speaker 2: and that's that's something that they need.
25:26
Speaker 6: And a defense to stop the run would be nice.
25:28
Speaker 2: Fair, I mean, all those things are all those things
25:31
Speaker 2: are great.
25:31
Speaker 6: So yeah, all right, well thanks for taking my call, Nick,
25:34
Speaker 6: have a great day.
25:35
Speaker 2: I'll be listening all right. Josh in Chicago from also
25:38
Speaker 2: from the Marines in the beach. Let's go to Rob
25:42
Speaker 2: in Vegas.
25:44
Speaker 7: Hey, Nick, Hey, Rob.
25:47
Speaker 5: Everything great, I'm good, everything's good. Had a great Memorial Day.
25:51
Speaker 5: I hope everybody did.
25:52
Speaker 2: Yeah, for sure, for sure, Yeah it was. It was
25:56
Speaker 2: good until the storms came in and knocked out all
25:58
Speaker 2: the power and kind of messed up week. And it's
26:00
Speaker 2: only Tuesday.
26:02
Speaker 4: Yeah.
26:02
Speaker 5: I had some relatives and trying to go back to
26:05
Speaker 5: New York and forget it.
26:06
Speaker 2: The flight, Oh, I'm sure, I'm sure. Yeah, there's nothing.
26:10
Speaker 2: There's nothing worse. When you're looking at the at the
26:12
Speaker 2: radar and you're like it looks you know, it's like
26:15
Speaker 2: red purple, and then it's like, all right, let me
26:18
Speaker 2: go to the next three hours and it's the same,
26:20
Speaker 2: Like it's just nothing's changing. So yeah, when it's five
26:24
Speaker 2: am and you're like this is going to clear up
26:25
Speaker 2: an eleven, you're like, all right, well, how much hail
26:28
Speaker 2: is going to hit? But sorry, I think everyone's good
26:30
Speaker 2: for now?
26:32
Speaker 7: Good?
26:32
Speaker 5: Good?
26:33
Speaker 2: What do you got?
26:36
Speaker 5: You know, listen, Trey Lance, he should play good in
26:40
Speaker 5: the preseason. I mean he's not a rookie, and I mean,
26:44
Speaker 5: let's face it, if he's not good in the preseason,
26:46
Speaker 5: mammals will just cut him. I mean, so I assume
26:49
Speaker 5: he's going to play good. But the problem is that,
26:51
Speaker 5: let's be honest, as good as Jerry Jones is as
26:53
Speaker 5: a businessman, he blew this all three quarterbacks of free
26:58
Speaker 5: agents after this year. So it's like, what are you doing?
27:01
Speaker 5: I mean, Cooper Rush, say what you want. Maybe not
27:05
Speaker 5: a superstar, but I think he's five and one as
27:08
Speaker 5: a starter for this team, pretty good. Trey Lance have
27:13
Speaker 5: no idea. Let's be honest. He looks the part, but
27:17
Speaker 5: we don't know. And and Dak. If Dak is great
27:21
Speaker 5: in the regular season, top top three quarterback, maybe in
27:25
Speaker 5: the regular season. The issue is the playoffs for whatever reason.
27:28
Speaker 5: And if we do the answer, obviously we fix it.
27:32
Speaker 5: We discussed fifty three million dollars is probably the going
27:36
Speaker 5: rate offer it. That's what Golf got and if he
27:40
Speaker 5: doesn't take it, then you know, I think he looks
27:43
Speaker 5: dead because he said, you know, he doesn't play for money.
27:46
Speaker 5: But I don't know what to do. But I gotta
27:49
Speaker 5: be honest. I don't know what. What are the Cowboys
27:51
Speaker 5: waiting for to sign Cebee Lamb and a Dak Prescott.
27:58
Speaker 5: I mean, you know what, but number is Tyreek Hill
28:01
Speaker 5: is the highest paid at thirty one, So ceedee, Lambon's
28:06
Speaker 5: right there, right there. Uh, okay, what do you want
28:09
Speaker 5: to put them at number two and number three in
28:11
Speaker 5: the leak?
28:11
Speaker 2: So? Well, is he don't know what is your thirty five?
28:16
Speaker 5: I don't think any I don't think anybody receives seeing
28:18
Speaker 5: thirty five, so especially if you don't have a quarterback.
28:21
Speaker 2: Okay, but but so you're saying he's not worth thirty five,
28:26
Speaker 2: Well no, I.
28:26
Speaker 5: I thirty one thirty thirty one.
28:28
Speaker 2: Okay, But as I said this the other day and
28:30
Speaker 2: Rob you you know this, like these these contracts, they
28:35
Speaker 2: they are two way streets, like they these guys are
28:38
Speaker 2: not waiting there with a with a sharpie or a
28:41
Speaker 2: pen to say I'm ready to sign the deal. They
28:44
Speaker 2: they are asking for money that is is not where
28:48
Speaker 2: the Cowboys want to pay them.
28:49
Speaker 5: They wait a minute, do we know that is CD
28:51
Speaker 5: asking for thirty five?
28:54
Speaker 2: What he's asking for is not what the Cowboys are
28:56
Speaker 2: looking to do right now. So I don't know. I
28:59
Speaker 2: I'm not going to say that he's asking for thirty five.
29:01
Speaker 2: I don't know if they're asking if the Cowboys are
29:03
Speaker 2: asking for twenty five, I we don't know that. We're
29:05
Speaker 2: not supposed to know these negotiations. We know that they're
29:08
Speaker 2: not done. We know the cowboys are probably trying to
29:11
Speaker 2: wait for Jefferson, I think, and Jefferson's waiting for CD.
29:16
Speaker 5: No I understand them, but we talked about this. Why
29:19
Speaker 5: they wait. It always hurts them. It always you have
29:22
Speaker 5: to be first, not last. You want to get in
29:25
Speaker 5: now before Jefferson because if Jefferson, I don't know, it
29:29
Speaker 5: just says goes they thirty two.
29:31
Speaker 2: But Ron, they CD and his agent don't want to
29:34
Speaker 2: do that. They don't want to be second. They want
29:36
Speaker 2: to be first, first in the money, so they don't
29:40
Speaker 2: want to go first, and then Jefferson goes over them.
29:43
Speaker 2: They don't want that. They don't want them. That's important
29:45
Speaker 2: to them. It's not important to all players, but this
29:47
Speaker 2: one that does seem like that. The Jefferson CD thing
29:50
Speaker 2: is it's like the agents are sitting there just waiting
29:54
Speaker 2: to see who who goes first here, you know, like
29:56
Speaker 2: the old saloon. You know, these two cowboys are just
29:58
Speaker 2: waiting to see who draws first.
30:00
Speaker 5: And to me, right now, your priority has to be Dak.
30:04
Speaker 5: He's opened the door with making comments and you got
30:08
Speaker 5: to you gotta sign him. I mean, at the end
30:11
Speaker 5: of the day, if you told me I could get
30:13
Speaker 5: somebody better, I'm all for it. But you cannot. And
30:16
Speaker 5: this team is too good to just blow it up.
30:20
Speaker 5: And he's the he's the top domino that has befall. First,
30:23
Speaker 5: you get him in the building, done, you save money.
30:27
Speaker 5: Then Cede says, well, I want to play with a
30:29
Speaker 5: really good quarterback, because let's say that every wide receiver
30:34
Speaker 5: that is considered great had a great quarterback take their
30:38
Speaker 5: hand in hand. So to me, CD doesn't want to
30:42
Speaker 5: go somewhere where there's some scrub playing quarterback. So I
30:46
Speaker 5: think you got to get you have to get that done.
30:49
Speaker 5: The longer you wait, the more. Of course, I think
30:51
Speaker 5: this is a great window because fifty three is now
30:55
Speaker 5: on the table, and even though fifty three is an
30:58
Speaker 5: incredibly large a bottom money, it's not sixty. So I
31:04
Speaker 5: can't see how Dak could justify, if it ever got
31:07
Speaker 5: leaked that he wants sixty when fifty three is the
31:10
Speaker 5: next number up. So to me, jump on it, let's go.
31:15
Speaker 5: You know, Dak says he wants to be here, Jerry
31:17
Speaker 5: wants them here. Get it done. Now, going into training
31:22
Speaker 5: camp and then let's say some and then let I'm
31:26
Speaker 5: sure cdu would sign, but I just don't know. But
31:31
Speaker 5: like I said, you have no quarterback or everybody's a
31:34
Speaker 5: free agent. That's I never heard of that. Yeah, we
31:36
Speaker 5: have a whole quarterback staff. Well players are free agent.
31:41
Speaker 2: Yeah, orb you said it like Jerry blew it, Like
31:44
Speaker 2: let's wait. Can we wait to see if he really
31:46
Speaker 2: blew it before it's back? I mean like, like, well,
31:50
Speaker 2: well you don't think it might be, but what if
31:53
Speaker 2: it works out perfectly? Like I was, I'm not ready
31:56
Speaker 2: to say he blew it when we don't know how
31:58
Speaker 2: this thing's going to end up.
32:01
Speaker 5: It's going to work out, Listen, it's it's going to
32:03
Speaker 5: work out, because I can't imagine unless listen, Dak is
32:07
Speaker 5: great in the regular season, Pennsylanman thirty touch, unless gossip
32:11
Speaker 5: Biddy gets hurt. Great, he's he's great in the regular season.
32:15
Speaker 2: That's awesome. That's exactly what I want my player to be. Honestly,
32:18
Speaker 2: I want my player to be great in the regular season. Yeah,
32:21
Speaker 2: so that's a great start. Then we'll see what happens
32:24
Speaker 2: from there. Better than the other way around, Better than then,
32:27
Speaker 2: you know, better than the guy that finishes two and fifteen,
32:29
Speaker 2: and he's like, you know what, just get me in
32:31
Speaker 2: the playoffs though I'm about to roll. I mean, it
32:33
Speaker 2: doesn't work that way. So you know, I'm fine with this.
32:35
Speaker 5: I could do it now because the longer you wait,
32:39
Speaker 5: it's you know, it's going to cost you more money.
32:41
Speaker 5: I don't know, waiting. You can't wait in this league
32:45
Speaker 5: when you're dealing with the top guys. They like you said,
32:49
Speaker 5: it just it just goes up. Get it now, all right,
32:52
Speaker 5: and you know, but hopefully everybody's good in Texas and
32:56
Speaker 5: hopeful weather. You know, isn't you crazy. That's one thing
32:59
Speaker 5: I don't deal with here in Vegas, and Medal would
33:03
Speaker 5: want to deal with it, so hopefully. But it's good.
33:05
Speaker 2: Thanks, I appreciate it, Thanks for Rob for the call.
33:08
Speaker 2: And you know, I'll just say this, and I've reiterated again,
33:11
Speaker 2: it's just, you know, there is more to it than
33:14
Speaker 2: just getting it done. I mean, because getting it done
33:18
Speaker 2: sometimes means you have to just give in. And they're
33:21
Speaker 2: not in a position really to do that financially as well.
33:24
Speaker 2: They're trying to make this work for both sides, and
33:28
Speaker 2: everyone's got an agenda. Including you know, DAK side, CD side,
33:33
Speaker 2: MICA's side and all that. MICA's kind of that that
33:36
Speaker 2: seems to be I would say, a distant third right
33:40
Speaker 2: now in the in the priorities. And you know what,
33:43
Speaker 2: I'm sure the Cowboys don't even say that. They probably
33:45
Speaker 2: have other guys in mind too, because that's what happened
33:48
Speaker 2: last year. We were talking about Dak last year, definitely
33:51
Speaker 2: talking about CD, you know, and digs and then and
33:54
Speaker 2: then Digs got done first, and then you're like, well,
33:56
Speaker 2: then Hooker gets done. You didn't even know Zach Martin
33:58
Speaker 2: was a thing, and then that has to done. So
34:01
Speaker 2: you know, it's still a long time before that's really
34:06
Speaker 2: got to happen. And I understand nobody likes to go
34:09
Speaker 2: into a season that way, but it's probably going to
34:12
Speaker 2: be that way where a lot of these things aren't
34:14
Speaker 2: even going to be done un till in the season,
34:16
Speaker 2: maybe even afterwards. All right, let's go to Chris in
34:19
Speaker 2: San Angelo.
34:20
Speaker 7: Hey, Nick, hope you're doing well today.
34:22
Speaker 2: Good. I'm doing great. How are you?
34:24
Speaker 7: I'm doing great?
34:25
Speaker 2: Dude?
34:26
Speaker 7: Hey, I was going to go back. I'm thinking back
34:29
Speaker 7: when I was back in the seventies, even when I
34:32
Speaker 7: was just a little kid. I watched this guy play
34:35
Speaker 7: against the Cowboys. His name was Roy Green, and every
34:41
Speaker 7: single time he played against the Cowboys, he burned them
34:46
Speaker 7: right like there was nobody that could cover, no Pro
34:49
Speaker 7: bowlers or anything. So what my question to you is,
34:53
Speaker 7: in your time, who is the biggest Cowboy killer that
34:58
Speaker 7: you can remember?
35:00
Speaker 2: There's only one?
35:01
Speaker 7: Okay, well, I know, I know you might say.
35:05
Speaker 2: Aaron Who Aaron Rodgers?
35:07
Speaker 7: Yeah, but I'm talking. I'm talking about somebody just just
35:12
Speaker 7: like week in week out, could for some reason, couldn't
35:15
Speaker 7: block him, couldn't cover him. Whatever.
35:18
Speaker 2: I'm gonna I'm gonna let I'm not even typing anything
35:21
Speaker 2: to Chris. If he's listening, I guarantee you Chris is
35:25
Speaker 2: gonna say the name that I because we lived through this. Okay,
35:29
Speaker 2: we never beat this guy, Chris, who is it?
35:33
Speaker 7: Okay?
35:35
Speaker 2: No, no, no, I mean we're talking the guy that
35:38
Speaker 2: they were going to draft and they decided not. It's
35:43
Speaker 2: Randy Moss. I mean they never beat him. He went
35:46
Speaker 2: to the Vikings, he went to the Raiders, he went
35:48
Speaker 2: to the forty nine, and they never beat them, and
35:50
Speaker 2: he went back back to the Vikings. I think he's
35:52
Speaker 2: I think it was seven to zero against him. So yeah,
35:55
Speaker 2: that's that's the one. And that's not only he just
35:58
Speaker 2: dominated him because he was here, he was there, you
36:01
Speaker 2: could draft him, and he's he took Greg Elis, which
36:05
Speaker 2: is a good, solid player, buddy.
36:08
Speaker 7: And hopefully a good coach, but his jackets.
36:10
Speaker 2: Not gold, you know. And yeah, I mean, and I
36:13
Speaker 2: love Greg Ellis, and Greg Ellis got unfairly, uh compared
36:17
Speaker 2: to a wide receiver. His whole career was unfair for him.
36:20
Speaker 2: But that's the only name that pops up to me.
36:24
Speaker 2: And you're right, Aaron Rodgers has that's been a playoff
36:27
Speaker 2: type thing, and he's he's been a guy, you know.
36:29
Speaker 2: And it was Tom Brady when they played him. I mean,
36:31
Speaker 2: he didn't play him all the time. He didn't play
36:33
Speaker 2: him all the time. But but Randy Moss was the
36:36
Speaker 2: one that just yeah, just always, yeah.
36:40
Speaker 7: It doesn't matter who you put on him. And he's scoring.
36:43
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, and I'm sure in the eighties when
36:46
Speaker 2: they weren't very good, you know, you I mean, they
36:50
Speaker 2: didn't block Lawrence Taylor all the time. You know, Lawrence
36:52
Speaker 2: Taylor was a probably the guy that you thought of
36:54
Speaker 2: because he could wreck the game and he did wreck
36:56
Speaker 2: a few games, but you know Roy Green. Yeah, but
37:00
Speaker 2: you know Roy Green played for the Cardinals.
37:03
Speaker 7: Yeah St. Louis.
37:05
Speaker 2: Yeah, right, And when the Cardinals beat the Cowboys, there
37:07
Speaker 2: was a parade. I mean, like, that's that's just what happened.
37:10
Speaker 2: That's that's what that's the type of franchise that they were.
37:14
Speaker 2: So and Roy Green, if I remember, he actually started
37:17
Speaker 2: his career, maybe even played defensive back, a little bit
37:21
Speaker 2: of both there, but he was Yeah.
37:25
Speaker 7: I just remember me and my dad always had conversations
37:28
Speaker 7: whenever they played Saint Louis. He was like, well, Roy
37:31
Speaker 7: Green's gonna get his but let just hope we can
37:35
Speaker 7: figure out the rest. Yeah.
37:37
Speaker 2: Yeah. There was a game on Monday night football. They
37:39
Speaker 2: played the Cardinals, and I'm sure Roy Green was playing
37:41
Speaker 2: on one side with the other receiver his name was
37:43
Speaker 2: Pat Tilley, and he caught a touchdown or he ran
37:48
Speaker 2: to the one and spiked it at the one. That
37:50
Speaker 2: was before instant replay. They ended up winning the game.
37:52
Speaker 2: The Cardinals did win the game, so there was probably
37:54
Speaker 2: a parade the next day, and and that was a
37:57
Speaker 2: big deal, was that he spiked it. You know, there
37:59
Speaker 2: was no replay now nowadays, they would have caught that.
38:01
Speaker 2: I still don't understand why players spike it or dropped
38:04
Speaker 2: the ball beforehand. I just makes no sense why they
38:07
Speaker 2: dropped the football out of the one.
38:09
Speaker 7: That's hold it like a loaf of bread until you're
38:11
Speaker 7: about five the order to give.
38:13
Speaker 2: It to the flip it to the official, or dunk
38:16
Speaker 2: it over the one of the exactly unless you're down
38:19
Speaker 2: by thirty, then you don't dunk it over the goalpost.
38:22
Speaker 2: Antonio Briant. But that's another story.
38:24
Speaker 7: That's fine, right, But yeah, yeah, that was going back
38:29
Speaker 7: a while, but that was one that came to my
38:30
Speaker 7: memory and I was sure. I was surely sure that
38:36
Speaker 7: you had one.
38:38
Speaker 2: Unfortunately, Yeah, yeah, yes, he was awesome.
38:41
Speaker 7: So all right, all right, Chris Man.
38:46
Speaker 2: All right, we're going from San Angelo to Germany. A
38:50
Speaker 2: little different, but we're going to Germany. Zach in Germany.
38:53
Speaker 7: What's up, Thick?
38:55
Speaker 8: What's going on?
38:55
Speaker 7: Man?
38:55
Speaker 2: How are you?
38:57
Speaker 7: Oh? Good? Brother?
38:58
Speaker 8: Sorry?
38:58
Speaker 7: Man?
38:59
Speaker 8: I tried to call you guys last week, but I
39:00
Speaker 8: was a vacation. Didn't get through.
39:02
Speaker 2: Well, today's the day. Today is the day you can
39:06
Speaker 2: get it through. What's on your mind?
39:08
Speaker 7: Good? Good?
39:10
Speaker 8: I got a couple of things I was looking at
39:13
Speaker 8: some of our draft again and I was running over
39:15
Speaker 8: the running back selections for lack thereof.
39:18
Speaker 2: On our end.
39:19
Speaker 8: And do you think that there's ever going to be
39:20
Speaker 8: a comparison how we had, you know, Greg Ellis to
39:23
Speaker 8: Randy Moss. In the back of my mind, I can't
39:26
Speaker 8: stop thinking about, man, we could have had Trade Benson
39:29
Speaker 8: over let's say, Neeland or Jalen right over Marrison Luo.
39:37
Speaker 8: Are you going to have those types of comparisons when you're.
39:39
Speaker 2: Looking back, I you know, I don't think so, because
39:43
Speaker 2: as you get later on in the in the draft
39:46
Speaker 2: that happened, you kind of kick yourself a little bit more,
39:51
Speaker 2: you know less, I'm sorry, kick yourself least because of that.
39:54
Speaker 2: It's later on. This was the Moss thing was different
39:58
Speaker 2: because everyone knew it was awesome. No one knew it
40:00
Speaker 2: was special. Can you deal with what the off field
40:04
Speaker 2: issues are? And can you deal with it here? Because
40:07
Speaker 2: of Michael Irvan? And Michael Ivan was the first to
40:09
Speaker 2: admit that I'm that Randy Moss isn't here because of me,
40:12
Speaker 2: because of what's been happening here in the nineties. Could
40:15
Speaker 2: we put Randy in this situation? But we all knew
40:17
Speaker 2: his talent was there, and and there was fifteen teams
40:21
Speaker 2: that had him off the board, so they didn't want
40:23
Speaker 2: to mess with them. When you get to the second, third, fourth,
40:26
Speaker 2: fifth round like that, like Tom Brady's, I mean, is
40:29
Speaker 2: there people kicking themselves? Yeah, there was probably somebody that
40:32
Speaker 2: says I want Brady and they're like, no, we're not
40:34
Speaker 2: taking Brady, We're taking this guy. So yeah, they probably
40:37
Speaker 2: kicked themselves. And so if it was that close with
40:40
Speaker 2: Trey Benson, like it was a big fight in the room,
40:42
Speaker 2: I do just don't think it was then then No,
40:45
Speaker 2: I don't think that. I mean, there's always players that
40:47
Speaker 2: you that you could have taken and you're like, I
40:50
Speaker 2: wish we would have gotten him, you know, but it
40:51
Speaker 2: just didn't work. But as it gets later on in
40:54
Speaker 2: the draft, you don't think about it the same as
40:56
Speaker 2: you do when it's a first round pick and it's
40:58
Speaker 2: like right there, either or this guy or this guy.
41:01
Speaker 8: You know, I remember, I guess the only go ahead,
41:05
Speaker 8: go ahead and the only counter argument that would be
41:09
Speaker 8: since running back is now more of a devalued position,
41:12
Speaker 8: you know, you have guys look at Preestault right to
41:14
Speaker 8: Prestol falls and you have other guys that now fall
41:17
Speaker 8: into the second round back in the nineties would have
41:20
Speaker 8: been first round challenge. And I'm not saying tray Vinson was,
41:22
Speaker 8: but he very well could be in that same category
41:25
Speaker 8: where you know, in a few years Needland might be
41:28
Speaker 8: a Charles Taffer, I know, a different second to fourth rounder.
41:32
Speaker 8: But you get that point. Yeah, I mean that's I mean,
41:34
Speaker 8: that's that's always tough.
41:35
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's and but I think the saving grace to
41:39
Speaker 2: it is is that if the guy in the second, third,
41:42
Speaker 2: fourth round shines, he develops. You know, everybody passed on
41:47
Speaker 2: him three times, you know, everybody, that's more about him.
41:51
Speaker 2: It's more about him being you know, something that most
41:54
Speaker 2: people did not think he would be. And so you know,
41:57
Speaker 2: Tom Brady made every team in the league look foolishcluding
42:00
Speaker 2: the Patriots, I mean, because they passed on him five times,
42:04
Speaker 2: so he impressed up all of them. And so yeah,
42:07
Speaker 2: I just if Drey Benson or whoever turns out to
42:11
Speaker 2: be a great running back, then that's great. But obviously
42:14
Speaker 2: the Cowboys just didn't see it. And you know, yes,
42:17
Speaker 2: it's the value, but we're only one year removed from
42:20
Speaker 2: two running backs getting picked in the first twelve picks.
42:23
Speaker 2: Last year it was Bejon and then Gibbs. So if
42:27
Speaker 2: there's no doubt, if there's a level, right, there's a
42:30
Speaker 2: special running back. If they're special, they're not overlooked that much,
42:34
Speaker 2: so they're they're they're still there if they're if they're
42:37
Speaker 2: deemed special.
42:39
Speaker 8: I think where I was surprised by it where it's
42:41
Speaker 8: more Really I guess it's a tip the tip of
42:44
Speaker 8: the cap to zimmer right, because you have him getting
42:47
Speaker 8: two defensive players in those top four picks. And I
42:51
Speaker 8: think that's where I was a little surprised, especially right,
42:54
Speaker 8: I knew that this running back draft class is going
42:56
Speaker 8: to be a second, third, fourth round where you can
42:59
Speaker 8: could get a good player, and you know, I understand
43:02
Speaker 8: we had dip needs elsewhere. So last last question, and
43:05
Speaker 8: I'll let you let you go. Is there a draft
43:08
Speaker 8: pick that you thought, you know, maybe it was going
43:11
Speaker 8: to be something and never got the shot or couldn't
43:13
Speaker 8: get on the field. And I'll give two example of this.
43:14
Speaker 8: That one before was Charles Tapper. Do you remember Matt Johnson.
43:18
Speaker 8: I think he was a third round pick years ago,
43:20
Speaker 8: couldn't stay healthy. Do you have anybody that comes to.
43:22
Speaker 7: Mind on your own.
43:24
Speaker 2: I mean a lot. I mean a lot of guys,
43:27
Speaker 2: because you know when you were when you were drafted,
43:30
Speaker 2: I mean like when I first started was in two thousand,
43:32
Speaker 2: So I mean none of those guys turned out to
43:34
Speaker 2: be to be that good, you know. I mean, but
43:37
Speaker 2: I'm just looking through a little bit to say, like,
43:39
Speaker 2: all right, which guys did I think we're going to
43:42
Speaker 2: be like really really special? There's so many who else?
43:48
Speaker 2: Who else did you have? See? I honestly thought I
43:53
Speaker 2: thought that man that two thousand. I thought Karl Aermore
43:57
Speaker 2: was going to be great everything, Okay, right, something over there?
44:02
Speaker 8: Kick can?
44:04
Speaker 2: Yeah, we'll not hope not literally not literally, yeah, hope
44:07
Speaker 2: hopefully it literally kicked the can. No, I mean I'm
44:11
Speaker 2: looking at these guys. I thought I thought Jalen Smith
44:17
Speaker 2: was actually I mean I thought he would he would
44:18
Speaker 2: overcome that injury and be and be better. I didn't.
44:23
Speaker 2: I didn't think Taco was going to be really good.
44:24
Speaker 2: I'll be honest with you there, Uh yeah, I didn't.
44:28
Speaker 8: Actually, how about I know, if there's other guys, how
44:32
Speaker 8: about Connor?
44:32
Speaker 2: How about Connor McGovern Penn State. I thought he was
44:37
Speaker 2: going to be guy and and you got to think
44:39
Speaker 2: about this too, Like everyone just thinks Bbie's going to
44:42
Speaker 2: be this great player, and he looks like he could be,
44:45
Speaker 2: but he's a third round pick. Connor McGovern was a
44:47
Speaker 2: third round pick. Connor Williams was a second round pick.
44:50
Speaker 2: You know, he's got some warts on him as well,
44:53
Speaker 2: so there's a reason why he felt like he did.
44:56
Speaker 2: But but you know, I mean, he looks it looks
44:58
Speaker 2: the part. But I'm just saying with these and they
45:00
Speaker 2: don't always pan out. But yeah, that that is one
45:02
Speaker 2: for sure that I thought would be a little bit
45:05
Speaker 2: better than he's been so far.
45:06
Speaker 8: So do you think do you think we maybe have
45:10
Speaker 8: a scouting issue? And the reason I say that coaches
45:12
Speaker 8: change over the years when it comes to like our
45:15
Speaker 8: defensive tackle evaluation, because I mean, look at our offensive
45:18
Speaker 8: tackles every time we drafted that we're up in some
45:20
Speaker 8: lineman for the most part, except you know, first rounders
45:23
Speaker 8: plug and play a lot of Pro bowlers. Do you
45:25
Speaker 8: look at our defensive tackle evaluation, Maybe we haven't done
45:30
Speaker 8: a good job there in the past several years. And
45:32
Speaker 8: I know it's early for Mazi, but Taco is a
45:34
Speaker 8: good example of the d lineman that we took high.
45:38
Speaker 8: Who was it that we took him the second with Marinelli's.
45:40
Speaker 2: Guy Tristin Hell. Yeah, Tristan Hill, and you got Neville Gallimore.
45:44
Speaker 2: He didn't really pan out like you would.
45:46
Speaker 8: Gallen wore Osa, Chunky Goldston. It's decents. Yeah, I think
45:51
Speaker 8: Osa's overperformed. But do you think maybe maybe we're just
45:54
Speaker 8: not evaluating that correctly?
45:57
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I think that's fair. I mean, if
45:59
Speaker 2: you go back to say team Eliite Collins, he actually
46:01
Speaker 2: played pretty well. I think I think more than anything though,
46:04
Speaker 2: the defensive tackle position seems to be, you know, predicated
46:09
Speaker 2: on what type of scheme you're playing, and more than
46:12
Speaker 2: more than others. You know, if you're a corner, you're safety,
46:16
Speaker 2: you're gonna you're gonna play, let you you know, do
46:19
Speaker 2: what you do. You linebacker could be one. You could
46:22
Speaker 2: argue that as well, but I think defensive tackle, I mean,
46:26
Speaker 2: if you're three four, you know defense, if you're a
46:28
Speaker 2: four to three, if you're a hybrid, if you play inside,
46:31
Speaker 2: if you play outside, if you're really a nose but
46:33
Speaker 2: you're playing in the three or vice versa. I mean,
46:35
Speaker 2: you can change a lot, and I think that you've
46:38
Speaker 2: had some different defenses in here, different defensive line coaches
46:41
Speaker 2: asking them to do different things, and so I don't
46:44
Speaker 2: think it's been one where it's just you know, you're
46:47
Speaker 2: drafting these guys for a different scheme. You know how
46:50
Speaker 2: many different coordinators have we had here in the last
46:52
Speaker 2: four or five years. I mean it's been like five, right,
46:56
Speaker 2: for at least for four coordinators now in the last
47:00
Speaker 2: since twenty nineteen with Marinelli. So I mean you've had
47:04
Speaker 2: different coordinators, and I think that that might affect it
47:07
Speaker 2: a little bit. All right, all right, thanks for the call, Zach.
47:10
Speaker 2: Let's go one more. Let's go on. Mike in England.
47:14
Speaker 2: Mike you there, Hello, Nick?
47:17
Speaker 4: How are you doing good?
47:17
Speaker 2: How are you?
47:19
Speaker 3: I'm all right, thank you.
47:20
Speaker 7: Yeah.
47:21
Speaker 3: So I haven't been able to listen so far this evening,
47:24
Speaker 3: so I hope you're having a really good show. First
47:28
Speaker 3: time I've been able to call since the schedule came out.
47:32
Speaker 3: And got to say, I was really really disappointed because
47:36
Speaker 3: I had three shots that get into a Cowboy game.
47:40
Speaker 3: So I'm going to be over in New York City
47:43
Speaker 3: and Washington in October, and I thought, if that doesn't
47:47
Speaker 3: pan out, then there's the Panthers game. I could get
47:51
Speaker 3: over to Germany and see them, but not to be
47:54
Speaker 3: when I'm over. Cowboys are on the other side of
47:57
Speaker 3: the country in San Francisco.
48:00
Speaker 8: There we go.
48:00
Speaker 3: But I'm going to get to the Jets against the Texans,
48:04
Speaker 3: which I'm sure will be lots of fun. It's not
48:06
Speaker 3: my cowboys, but one day we'll we'll tick that box.
48:13
Speaker 3: But Nick, I've recently been reading a book I finished
48:19
Speaker 3: a couple of weeks ago by an up and coming author.
48:22
Speaker 3: It's called If These Wolves Could Talk. I don't know
48:25
Speaker 3: if you've heard of it.
48:26
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know about coming. He sounds like he's on
48:30
Speaker 2: his downward ways there as an author. Either way, either way,
48:34
Speaker 2: I'll go. Well.
48:36
Speaker 3: I thoroughly enjoyed it, apart from chapter eight, which was
48:41
Speaker 3: a little bit traumatic. I wasn't quite ready for that
48:43
Speaker 3: reading all these wonderful football stories and then that that
48:47
Speaker 3: chapter sort of takes your breath away a little bit.
48:49
Speaker 3: But I wondered if, because that's it's ten years since
48:54
Speaker 3: the period that that's covered, and I just wondered, just
48:58
Speaker 3: a quick call today, I'll ask this and then leave
49:01
Speaker 3: you to I wondered if you'd got any thoughts about
49:04
Speaker 3: doing an updated version, and if you did, who from
49:07
Speaker 3: the last ten years would you get to write the
49:10
Speaker 3: forward this time?
49:11
Speaker 2: Oh? Man, Yeah, I mean it's been if their new walls,
49:17
Speaker 2: you know what I mean. The walls are not at
49:19
Speaker 2: Valley Ranch anymore, so yeah, maybe. So you know, I
49:24
Speaker 2: don't not ever close any doors on when it comes
49:26
Speaker 2: to writing books. You know. The funny thing about that
49:30
Speaker 2: is I had a book deal done where if these
49:32
Speaker 2: walls could talk while I was writing another book. So
49:34
Speaker 2: I'd actually had two book deals done before I'd even
49:37
Speaker 2: written one word. But they were like, yeah, let's let's
49:40
Speaker 2: do this one, and it worked out, and it's still
49:42
Speaker 2: the one that most people still read the most because
49:45
Speaker 2: even though it's outdated, like you said, it's still got
49:47
Speaker 2: some old stories in there. As the forward, I don't know.
49:53
Speaker 2: I mean, maybe you know a current player that's been around.
49:57
Speaker 2: I have a couple of names in mind. I certainly
50:00
Speaker 2: would want to throw them out there right now. I
50:02
Speaker 2: hadn't talked to anybody about that. I hadn't even talked
50:03
Speaker 2: about writing a book, so that would be the least
50:06
Speaker 2: of my concerns on getting the forward, because really, you
50:09
Speaker 2: know the forward, you're just doing an interview with the
50:11
Speaker 2: guy you're doing an interview, you ask him stuff and
50:14
Speaker 2: then you piece it together in a first person thing.
50:16
Speaker 2: It's really not it's actually, i'll tell you that secret.
50:19
Speaker 2: It's not as glamorous as it does to the guys.
50:21
Speaker 2: So there's not there's not a player sitting at his
50:23
Speaker 2: computer just thinking like like old Doogie Howser like sitting
50:26
Speaker 2: there like hmm oh, I'll write this like No, it
50:29
Speaker 2: doesn't work that way. But either way, if I if
50:31
Speaker 2: I can come up with enough stories and there's the
50:33
Speaker 2: interest with the publisher, sure why not because it has
50:36
Speaker 2: been relatively successful, you know, because it's one that when
50:41
Speaker 2: when people that say you wrote a book, you know,
50:44
Speaker 2: and they see the books that I've written, that's the
50:45
Speaker 2: one that's probably the cheapest. It's also the one that's
50:48
Speaker 2: got a lot more information that fans care about. So yeah,
50:51
Speaker 2: it's an idea.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, really really enjoyed it.
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Speaker 7: Nick.
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Speaker 3: Unfortunately, on Amazon UKs they only had second hand copies,
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Speaker 3: so I don't think you get any royalty for that.
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Speaker 3: I'm afraid. I'm proudly sorry, but it was. It was
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Speaker 3: a really good read, so I would definitely thank you
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Speaker 3: welcome another one if you get the time.
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Speaker 2: Thank you, all right, thank you appreciate that. All right,
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Speaker 2: thank you, all right, I have a good one. Well,
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Speaker 2: it's two o'clock on the dot and it's been a guys.
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Speaker 2: You guys pulled through. I didn't think we were gonna
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Speaker 2: We had six calls. It's five more than I thought
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Speaker 2: we'd have. So it was good stuff. We went all
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Speaker 2: over the world too, went to Germany, England, Vegas. It
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Speaker 2: was good sant Angelo, Texas, good stuff for sure. So
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Speaker 2: all right, we were done. I don't even know what
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Speaker 2: Chris is saying. Chris, I don't know what you're saying. Man,
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Speaker 2: But it's two o'clock. You said two o'clock on the dot.
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Speaker 2: You got your drop top? Oh no, okay, sorry, I
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Speaker 2: don't know what you're saying. I can't I can't process
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Speaker 2: as I'm trying to riff at the same time. So
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Speaker 2: I'm not a rapper. One of the reasons why I'm
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Speaker 2: not a rapper. All right, let's go, let's get out
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Speaker 2: of here. For Chris Beam, I'm Nick Eatman. This could
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Speaker 2: be the last show the week, probably not gonna have
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Speaker 2: one o'clock on Thursday. If we can move it back,
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Speaker 2: we will. We'll let you know for sure on what
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Speaker 2: our schedule looks like Thursday, but if that's the end
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Speaker 2: of it this week, we'll definitely be back next week
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Speaker 2: for sure. Thanks to everyone, we'll see you next time
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Speaker 2: on the Cowboy storyline.
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