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O'Brien & Doug Ep128 [Thursday, December 1 Loud & Lousy] · O'Brien & Doug

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SPEAKER_09: Record we recording we I feel like I'm talking to a baby That's still really loud Is it?
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SPEAKER_10: Yeah Only sometimes though Sometimes it's loud Sometimes it's loud Sometim It's lousy Fortunately we're both loud and lousy Loud and lousy That's the name of the episode That's the name of the episode Hello children The O'Brien and Doug podcast is brought to you in part by Mojarmultimedia.com, KMH Music in Prescott, Maine, the Ridge Runner in Westfield, Maine, and my cousin.
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SPEAKER_01: We do the dance of Doug.
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SPEAKER_12: Welcome to the O'Brien and Doug podcast.
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SPEAKER_12: I'm O'Brien.
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SPEAKER_12: I am Doug.
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SPEAKER_12: I am Oh, excuse me.
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SPEAKER_12: I better turn my phone off.
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SPEAKER_12: Hello.
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SPEAKER_12: That was who is it?
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SPEAKER_12: That was my niece snapping me.
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SPEAKER_12: Your niece is snapping?
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SPEAKER_12: My niece is snapping me.
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SPEAKER_12: Like with a towel.
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SPEAKER_12: Yes.
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SPEAKER_12: Episode 128.
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SPEAKER_12: 128.
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SPEAKER_12: 128.
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SPEAKER_12: We feel great.
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SPEAKER_12: Whoa.
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unknown: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_10: Love it.
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SPEAKER_10: All right.
1:35
SPEAKER_10: I just want to do this.
1:36
SPEAKER_10: I just want to do this.
1:37
SPEAKER_10: I don't want to, I don't want to, you know, we had Thanksgiving.
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SPEAKER_04: I had I don't want to work.
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SPEAKER_04: I just want to do the podcast all day.
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SPEAKER_10: I have to say, you know, uh, we had Thanksgiving off.
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SPEAKER_10: And then well, I had from Thanksgiving all the way to uh yesterday.
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SPEAKER_10: We're recording on a Tuesday.
1:55
SPEAKER_10: So I had Thursday, Friday, Saturday, Sunday off.
1:58
SPEAKER_10: You didn't, obviously, because you're a government worker and you worked Friday and Saturday as well.
2:03
SPEAKER_12: Government sucks.
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SPEAKER_10: But uh, you know, yeah, it was really nice.
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SPEAKER_10: Uh you know, I work with all different age groups of kids all day long.
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SPEAKER_10: It was really nice to not.
2:19
SPEAKER_04: As much as I like seeing you guys, it's really even better not seeing you.
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SPEAKER_10: And I don't mean that in a bad way, but you know, and I've only been I've only been teaching this gig uh for a couple months.
2:32
SPEAKER_10: Yeah.
2:33
SPEAKER_10: But every break is awesome.
2:35
SPEAKER_10: Well, yeah, well, yeah.
2:36
SPEAKER_10: Yeah.
2:37
SPEAKER_10: So uh and now I'm counting down to the Christmas break, which is extra long, so I'm I'm really excited about it.
2:41
SPEAKER_10: Yeah, there you go.
2:42
SPEAKER_10: But I was thinking about it.
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SPEAKER_10: I just would love to just you know, we do this once a week.
2:49
SPEAKER_10: I would just love to do this.
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SPEAKER_04: I know, I would do this every day.
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SPEAKER_10: Wouldn't it be awesome?
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SPEAKER_10: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_10: See, now you're not loud enough.
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SPEAKER_04: Okay.
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unknown: I don't want to turn you up.
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SPEAKER_04: Turn it up.
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SPEAKER_10: Turn it up, man.
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SPEAKER_10: There, that's better.
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SPEAKER_10: I just don't want it to be overmodulated, you know.
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SPEAKER_12: Is that Freedom Podcast?
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SPEAKER_12: Turn it up, man! That's loud and lousy.
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SPEAKER_12: Loud and lousy.
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SPEAKER_12: O'Brien and Doug, loud and lousy.
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SPEAKER_10: Loud and lousy.
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SPEAKER_10: Um So you know, you know, I'm I just I don't know how and I don't know.
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SPEAKER_10: We're we're just doing it for fun, obviously.
3:18
SPEAKER_10: Um, but boy, wouldn't it be nice just to just do this for a living, yeah.
3:25
SPEAKER_10: We're we're doing it wrong, obviously, because we're we're not really We got microphones.
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SPEAKER_10: No, what I mean is Are we recording onto an analog tape?
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SPEAKER_10: A reel to reel?
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SPEAKER_10: What I mean is You know, we're not really promoting it like we could.
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SPEAKER_10: We're not Yeah, but we don't have that expertise.
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SPEAKER_10: Well it's not necessarily that we don't have the expertise, we don't have the time.
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SPEAKER_10: I too.
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SPEAKER_10: I used to be able I used to record uh video and and edit them to make a promo.
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SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_10: To send you know, our YouTube channel is we haven't posted anything on our YouTube channel for a long time.
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SPEAKER_04: But well, I mean we both work.
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SPEAKER_04: Well we haven't made a video in a long time either.
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SPEAKER_10: So But what I'm saying is well, yeah, I mean that kind of exactly.
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SPEAKER_10: But what are we gonna post?
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SPEAKER_10: And the reason we haven't made a video is because we're both working.
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SPEAKER_10: Right.
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SPEAKER_10: You know, and we're both I mean, it's just it's it's kind of uh unfortunate.
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SPEAKER_10: So um so dear um financiers, uh if you're listening and you'd like more of this podcast, um hook us up.
4:26
SPEAKER_04: You know, Elon Musk just bought Twitter.
4:29
SPEAKER_04: I mean, he must have some extra cash laying around.
4:31
SPEAKER_04: You know, we were on Twitter.
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SPEAKER_04: He could he he could like he he could buy us.
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SPEAKER_04: And we'd be like, hey, we'll work for you.
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SPEAKER_10: We were on Twitter for a while.
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SPEAKER_10: Were we?
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SPEAKER_10: We were.
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SPEAKER_10: Oh, yeah, that's right.
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SPEAKER_10: Do we still have it?
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SPEAKER_10: No.
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SPEAKER_10: No, I deleted it.
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SPEAKER_10: But uh I deleted it a long time ago.
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SPEAKER_04: I mean, yeah, I was about to say, yeah, I mean I w I don't even remember us talking about it for so long.
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SPEAKER_10: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_10: Um and I don't know if we're we'll get that back or not.
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SPEAKER_10: I mean, again, that's more work.
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SPEAKER_04: You know, we'd have to Well, it's it's it's work that we don't already do.
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SPEAKER_10: Right.
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unknown: What?
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SPEAKER_10: Oh wait a minute.
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SPEAKER_10: Let me hold on, let me let me decode what you just said.
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SPEAKER_10: I don't I don't even know what I said.
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SPEAKER_10: It's work that we don't already do.
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SPEAKER_04: Yeah, it's it's it's work that we wait a minute.
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SPEAKER_04: What was I saying?
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SPEAKER_04: What was I trying to say?
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SPEAKER_10: It's work that we don't already it's not work that we don't already do.
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SPEAKER_10: It's double negative.
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SPEAKER_04: I don't know.
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SPEAKER_04: It's it's just another thing to do, but we don't do it.
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SPEAKER_04: So if we do it again, will we just not do it again?
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SPEAKER_04: I mean Right.
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SPEAKER_10: No, I don't know what you mean.
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SPEAKER_04: Who's on first?
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SPEAKER_04: I don't I don't know.
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SPEAKER_04: Who's on second?
5:43
SPEAKER_04: I'm confused.
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SPEAKER_04: I just confused myself.
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SPEAKER_04: My hit my head hurts.
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SPEAKER_10: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_10: But you know, I mean it's it's just one of those things that we deal with, you know.
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SPEAKER_10: Yeah, it's just it's just it's it's what makes us.
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SPEAKER_10: Maybe this whole shortwave radio thing will just kind of blow us water.
5:57
SPEAKER_10: Well, that's what I'm hoping for.
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SPEAKER_04: I'm hoping, you know, maybe like, you know, some like tiny African country will be like, we want you to be our new gods.
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SPEAKER_04: You know, like cherry to uh what was that movie?
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SPEAKER_04: The gods must be crazy.
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unknown: Right.
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unknown: Right.
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SPEAKER_02: I don't I I don't think that's you know, we just we just show up and they're gonna be like, ooh! It's loud and lousy.
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SPEAKER_02: No brain and dog! No loud and nosy.
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SPEAKER_02: We love you.
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SPEAKER_04: Yeah, we'd live in a like a you know, like a palatial treehouse.
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SPEAKER_04: You know?
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SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_04: And we're scratching your head.
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SPEAKER_04: I don't know.
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SPEAKER_04: I just I'm just thinking.
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SPEAKER_04: Now I you know when I think my head itches.
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SPEAKER_02: That helps you that helps you think.
6:39
SPEAKER_02: Well, it's just like this is this is where I would like to have video going.
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SPEAKER_04: I know, right?
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SPEAKER_04: Oh, I don't know.
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SPEAKER_04: Oh I'm just I don't know.
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SPEAKER_04: I just I just talk on my butt sometimes.
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SPEAKER_08: I know.
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SPEAKER_02: I'd like to ask you a question waiting for that.
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SPEAKER_02: I so was waiting for that.
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SPEAKER_02: Because if you weren't gonna do it, I was gonna do it.
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SPEAKER_10: Anyway, um let's talk at the music front.
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SPEAKER_10: Okay, let's uh we have some things, we do have some things on the horizon.
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SPEAKER_10: Um Doug, you just presented me with a couple ideas that we're gonna do.
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SPEAKER_10: Um I've got some feelers out for some uh interviews that are are are famous people.
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SPEAKER_10: I'm not gonna tell you who they are yet.
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SPEAKER_10: Um, but once I hear from their people.
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SPEAKER_10: Well, they're people, they're publicists, and they're famous.
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SPEAKER_10: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_04: Well that narrows it down.
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SPEAKER_10: So uh and I've got three feelers out right now.
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SPEAKER_10: So we'll see if any of them come back to to be a guest on the podcast.
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SPEAKER_10: Cool.
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SPEAKER_10: Um and is one of them Sammy Hagar.
7:44
SPEAKER_10: Well, you just blew it.
7:45
SPEAKER_10: Yes, one of them is Sammy Hagar.
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SPEAKER_04: All right, that's fine.
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SPEAKER_04: But because we've been talking about that for 18 seasons now.
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SPEAKER_10: I know, and that's and I finally I finally did put out the the request.
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SPEAKER_10: So you know and he does do a lot of podcasts.
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SPEAKER_10: Yeah, he does.
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SPEAKER_04: Um I mean he's not doing anything else.
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SPEAKER_10: Right.
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SPEAKER_10: Oh well, he's doing a lot.
8:03
SPEAKER_10: Well he is, but But he is slowing down.
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SPEAKER_04: He is slowing down Well, he's 94.
8:08
SPEAKER_04: I mean, come on.
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SPEAKER_04: I mean he's gonna eventually I know he's just he looks good for 90.
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SPEAKER_04: I I I just wanted to make him older.
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SPEAKER_04: Right.
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SPEAKER_04: Because then you could go, wow, he looks great for 94.
8:18
SPEAKER_04: Right.
8:19
SPEAKER_10: You know what I mean?
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SPEAKER_10: Well, you know, the funny thing is, is you look at my like my father-in-law, who's walking with a cane.
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SPEAKER_04: What is he walking with a cane?
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SPEAKER_10: He's walking with a cane.
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SPEAKER_10: He is very slow.
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SPEAKER_04: Last time I saw him, he was driving, so I couldn't Granted.
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SPEAKER_10: I mean, a couple years ago he had cancer.
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SPEAKER_10: He's better now.
8:37
SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
8:38
SPEAKER_10: But it really knocked him down.
8:40
SPEAKER_10: Oh, I'm sure.
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SPEAKER_10: And so he just I mean, he's he really gets around really slowly.
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SPEAKER_10: He goes comes on my boys' basketball games, and you know, I have to help him out of the bleachers, and I mean it's really, really slow.
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SPEAKER_04: No.
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SPEAKER_10: He's two years older than Sammy Hagar.
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SPEAKER_10: Yeah, but they've lived very different.
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SPEAKER_10: I know, but that's what I'm saying is and and my wife always asks me all the time, she says, why what is it about Sammy Hagar?
9:04
SPEAKER_10: What do you what do you well A, I love his singing.
9:06
SPEAKER_10: Yeah, I love his music.
9:07
SPEAKER_10: Come out.
9:08
SPEAKER_10: Okay.
9:08
SPEAKER_10: But it's the way he lives his life.
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SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
9:11
SPEAKER_10: You know?
9:12
SPEAKER_10: Well, we've talked about this before, but uh I just you know i 75, 77, you know, and just look at the two you know, it's it's uh it's it's perspective.
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SPEAKER_10: Yeah, you know, and it's just really interesting.
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SPEAKER_10: But uh not that my father-in-law has lived a bad life, he hasn't.
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SPEAKER_04: No, but he's lived a very different life, right?
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SPEAKER_10: A different set of circumstances, yeah.
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SPEAKER_10: So I mean it's just you know, and you really you can't compare lives, but if I were to compare lives, I want Sammy Hagar's Yeah, yeah.
9:44
SPEAKER_10: Yeah, yeah.
9:45
SPEAKER_10: Anyway, um Oh, and happy anniversary to Sammy Hagar and Kari.
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SPEAKER_10: Twenty-seven years today.
9:52
SPEAKER_10: Well I happened to see that on on social media.
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SPEAKER_04: Oh, you don't know what also today is the anniversary of George Harrison's passing.
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SPEAKER_10: Oh, that's right, because they I w they were going to stream the concert for George.
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SPEAKER_04: Oh, were they?
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SPEAKER_10: Yes, there was uh somebody was going to uh I can't remember who it was, they were streaming the concert for George.
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SPEAKER_10: I own the concert for George, which is awesome.
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SPEAKER_04: Awesome, yeah.
10:14
SPEAKER_10: Um but they were gonna stream it because and you're right, he it was the anniversary of his death.
10:18
SPEAKER_10: Yes, yeah.
10:19
SPEAKER_10: So back in 2003?
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SPEAKER_07: Three or four.
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SPEAKER_07: 2003 or 4.
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SPEAKER_10: I don't remember.
10:28
SPEAKER_10: I don't either.
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SPEAKER_10: Um where were we going with this?
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SPEAKER_10: Oh, so yeah, we so we have some feelers out there uh and we also have uh we want to do this for the holidays.
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SPEAKER_10: Well, any day really, but especially uh important around the holidays.
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SPEAKER_10: And Doug, this is something you're spearheading.
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SPEAKER_04: Um sounds fancy.
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SPEAKER_10: Spearheading because we talked about and and we'll be complete open, you know, you come in here um a lot with your I mean you got some amazing t-shirts, rock and roll t-shirts, blues t-shirts, but you also have these um marine t-shirts, uh veteran t-shirts, um and a lot of them are stop stop uh soldier suicide.
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SPEAKER_09: Right.
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SPEAKER_10: Right.
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SPEAKER_10: And I I you know I saw that and I was like, well, we should do something, we should get behind something like that, or something to do with veterans.
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SPEAKER_10: Somehow we can support veterans uh who support us every day of our lives.
11:29
SPEAKER_10: Right.
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SPEAKER_10: And you said, Well, let's do Toys for Tots.
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SPEAKER_10: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_10: And that's quick and easy and a great I figured I figured it was a good jumping off point.
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SPEAKER_10: Yeah, yeah, and it's a great organization who do a lot for a lot of people.
11:44
SPEAKER_10: Um so why don't you explain what you've set up and we're we're gonna post links everywhere and yeah, uh I set up uh because when I was active duty, I used to do a lot with this.
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SPEAKER_04: Uh because it is the it is it's spearheaded by the Marine Marine Reserve.
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SPEAKER_04: Right.
12:02
SPEAKER_04: And uh but you know, active duty does a lot with it too.
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SPEAKER_04: But I did a lot over the hol you know, if I was around for the holidays, you know, I would do what I could to help out.
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SPEAKER_04: And uh, you know, there hasn't been much opportunity to do that since.
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SPEAKER_04: So I was like, oh why don't we why don't we just you know, now that we have this platform, right, uh why don't we uh set up a fundraising page and raise some money for Toys for Tots, which I think is a very you know worthwhile thing.
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SPEAKER_04: Um and I set the goal for this year, we're because we're not a big podcast.
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SPEAKER_10: Right.
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SPEAKER_04: So I set the goal, let's let's raise a hundred bucks.
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SPEAKER_10: Should be doable.
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SPEAKER_04: I I would think so.
12:44
SPEAKER_10: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_04: Um let's raise a hundred bucks for Toys for Tots.
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SPEAKER_04: That's and they and if you go to the website and you read up on it, uh the average price for a toy for a kid is ten bucks.
12:57
SPEAKER_04: So there's ten toys, right?
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SPEAKER_04: Roughly.
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SPEAKER_04: Yep.
12:59
SPEAKER_04: So that's ten kids we could help out.
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SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_04: I mean it's not big.
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SPEAKER_04: I mean, you know, but it's ten kids that you know, otherwise that may not get something for Christmas, we get something for Christmas.
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SPEAKER_10: Let me ask you this question because you set it up and I I don't have the answer, so I want to know.
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SPEAKER_10: If we set a goal for a hundred dollars, can we go above that goal?
13:19
SPEAKER_04: Oh, I'm sure we can.
13:20
SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
13:21
SPEAKER_04: No, you gotta stop.
13:22
SPEAKER_04: No, what up we don't want any more of your money.
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SPEAKER_10: Well, what I mean is the mechanism that you set up, like the page that you set up, can like if if we go if we meet our goal, can people still contribute so that it builds up?
13:34
SPEAKER_04: As far as I know, yes.
13:35
SPEAKER_10: Yes?
13:36
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, it's just it's just a it's just a benchmark.
13:38
SPEAKER_10: Right.
13:38
SPEAKER_10: Okay.
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SPEAKER_04: You know, we we want to raise a hundred bucks.
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SPEAKER_04: If we raise more, awesome.
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SPEAKER_10: Yeah.
13:42
SPEAKER_04: You know.
13:43
SPEAKER_04: I mean, I mean, they're not gonna be like, oh no, you can't do that.
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SPEAKER_10: Right.
13:46
SPEAKER_10: You said a hundred.
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unknown: Right.
13:48
SPEAKER_10: No, I think I think it's a great idea.
13:50
SPEAKER_10: And it's it's only for the Christmas season, right?
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SPEAKER_04: Well, I mean, it runs, I mean, they do things throughout the year to, you know, build up their uh, but uh it's really if you want to do something to make sure kids get something for Christmas, do it now.
14:03
SPEAKER_04: You've got to do it now.
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SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_10: So so this episode will drop on December 1st.
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SPEAKER_10: Yes.
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SPEAKER_10: Um, so we will include a link both on the um the websites uh that this it lives on, which is O'Brienandoug.buzzsprout.com.
14:20
SPEAKER_10: And it the link will live uh in the description of this episode.
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SPEAKER_04: Yeah, I I think if we put it if we if we link it from now until I think I think uh the week before Christmas.
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SPEAKER_10: Okay.
14:33
SPEAKER_04: So the that that's the timeline.
14:35
SPEAKER_04: Gotcha.
14:35
SPEAKER_04: Um let's put it in the description every week.
14:38
SPEAKER_04: Yep.
14:38
SPEAKER_04: So people, you know, if they and uh we'll also put it on the Facebook page.
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SPEAKER_04: Right.
14:43
SPEAKER_04: And you can link onto it from there too.
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SPEAKER_09: Yep.
14:46
SPEAKER_04: Um we would you know if you can if it's only a buck, that's awesome.
14:50
SPEAKER_04: I mean, we're not asking for, you know, somebody to donate a million dollars, but I mean that would be great.
14:55
SPEAKER_08: Right.
14:56
SPEAKER_04: But I mean if you can only donate a buck, donate a buck.
14:59
SPEAKER_04: Right.
14:59
SPEAKER_04: You know, I mean we're not we're not like I said, you know, it's a small, it's uh it's the first time we've ever done anything like this.
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SPEAKER_04: So I figured we start a little bit small and then may if it works out well next this year, maybe do 200 next year.
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SPEAKER_08: I think it's a great idea.
15:12
SPEAKER_04: Something like that.
15:12
SPEAKER_04: I really don't uh this is something I'd I'd we I'd like to see us do like every holiday season.
15:18
SPEAKER_04: Yep.
15:18
SPEAKER_04: You know, at least you know, try to try to do something.
15:21
SPEAKER_10: I agree.
15:22
SPEAKER_10: Yeah.
15:22
SPEAKER_10: Yeah, I think it's a great idea, and I think you know, we should do more of this type of thing.
15:26
SPEAKER_10: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_04: Um well I like I said, this was just the jumping.
15:29
SPEAKER_04: I still want to do something with the veteran suicide problem.
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SPEAKER_04: Um because my favorite charity uh for that is the Til Valhalla project.
15:38
SPEAKER_04: Okay, which was started by a Marine to honor his buddy who killed himself.
15:43
SPEAKER_04: So I've I've that's where I got this hoodie.
15:46
SPEAKER_04: Right.
15:47
SPEAKER_04: Um, is from them.
15:48
SPEAKER_04: And uh I'd like to, you know, see if there's something we could do to donate, you know, keep donating because what they do is they they make plaques for, you know, not only, you know, not only f uh it's not it it's it's plaques to remember your your veteran money.
16:06
SPEAKER_04: If they pass you know, either either in combat or by suicide, it's it's free to the family.
16:12
SPEAKER_07: Right.
16:13
SPEAKER_04: So um I'd like to see if we could do something like that, you know, contribute to that in some way too.
16:19
SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
16:20
SPEAKER_04: But I mean I'm st that's still in the in the works.
16:22
SPEAKER_04: I haven't figured that out yet.
16:24
SPEAKER_10: Yeah, and I also just want to point out that the noise that you're hearing in the background is my pipes.
16:30
SPEAKER_04: Oh, we're we're very familiar with the pipes from last week.
16:32
SPEAKER_10: Yeah, yeah.
16:34
SPEAKER_04: It's like the O'Brien, Doug, and pipes podcast.
16:38
SPEAKER_10: So uh there must be air in the line or something.
16:41
SPEAKER_04: But I think you know, it's just it's it's it's cold now.
16:44
SPEAKER_10: Yeah, it is.
16:45
SPEAKER_04: It's it's beautiful out.
16:47
SPEAKER_04: There's like a quarter moon out.
16:49
SPEAKER_08: Really?
16:49
SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
16:50
SPEAKER_04: And everybody is starting to put out their Christmas lights.
16:53
SPEAKER_08: Yeah.
16:54
SPEAKER_04: It's really pretty.
16:54
SPEAKER_04: I love this time of year.
16:56
SPEAKER_08: I know.
16:56
SPEAKER_04: You know, I love driving, you know, when I'm driving up and I'm like, oh, you know, I almost went off the road because I was looking at somebody's Christmas lights.
17:02
SPEAKER_04: But I was like, it's pretty cool.
17:04
SPEAKER_04: I don't know, somebody, somebody like down in by my I saw them Saturday.
17:09
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, they had this big like cherry picker, and they were stringing lights on this big freaking tree.
17:15
SPEAKER_10: Really?
17:16
SPEAKER_04: It's like it was it was pr it's probably a 25, 30 foot high tree.
17:20
SPEAKER_04: And I saw them stringing lights on it.
17:22
SPEAKER_04: I was like, oh, that's cool.
17:23
SPEAKER_04: Of course, it was like in the middle of the afternoon, so I couldn't see it.
17:25
SPEAKER_10: They they take their holiday season.
17:27
SPEAKER_04: Well, it's the first time they've ever seen them do that.
17:29
SPEAKER_04: That's that's what made it so unusual.
17:31
SPEAKER_08: Right.
17:31
SPEAKER_04: Because I know I know these people and I've never done anything like this.
17:34
SPEAKER_08: Right.
17:35
SPEAKER_04: I went by the next night, Sunday night, it is like gorgeous.
17:39
SPEAKER_04: Really?
17:40
SPEAKER_04: Blue, you know, bright blue.
17:41
SPEAKER_04: I mean, it you could see it from the space shuttle.
17:44
SPEAKER_04: Wow.
17:44
SPEAKER_04: That's how blue it is.
17:45
SPEAKER_04: I mean, it it really stands out.
17:46
SPEAKER_10: So it's the most wonderful time of the year.
17:49
SPEAKER_10: It's the mouth.
17:54
SPEAKER_04: Um dun dun dun dun.
17:57
SPEAKER_04: So I have oh, sorry.
17:59
SPEAKER_10: Uh so that's all great.
18:02
SPEAKER_10: So look for the link on our Facebook page and on the uh the um episode.
18:07
SPEAKER_04: Like I said, we'll be talking about it every week from now until the I think the last day we can donate is the 17th.
18:16
SPEAKER_10: Okay.
18:17
SPEAKER_10: So just a couple weeks actually.
18:18
SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
18:19
SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
18:19
SPEAKER_04: It's a it's a small window, but I think I we can do it.
18:22
SPEAKER_04: A hundred bucks, I think we can do it.
18:23
SPEAKER_04: A hundred bucks.
18:23
SPEAKER_04: Heck.
18:24
SPEAKER_10: So um so help out if you can.
18:26
SPEAKER_10: Uh and and don't let it stop at a hundred if you if we we reach our goal, keep going, see what happens.
18:32
SPEAKER_10: Yeah, see what how much we can get there.
18:33
SPEAKER_10: Maybe we can maybe we can help a lot of beating.
18:34
SPEAKER_04: Then we can try to beat it next year.
18:35
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, that kind of thing.
18:36
SPEAKER_10: So awesome.
18:38
SPEAKER_10: Um so the first thing, uh first order of music business I want to talk about today is Metallica.
18:44
unknown: Metallica!
18:46
SPEAKER_10: Because it was announced.
18:48
SPEAKER_04: I just had a vision of Kariani.
18:50
SPEAKER_04: Metallica Rolls! First, the first time I ever met that guy.
18:59
SPEAKER_04: That was the first two words I have to.
19:01
SPEAKER_10: We have to let people know.
19:02
SPEAKER_10: So the this is a guy that I went to high school with.
19:04
SPEAKER_10: Uh who has um um there's kind of a history there.
19:11
SPEAKER_10: We haven't talked about Carriani.
19:13
SPEAKER_10: Uh no, not that we would.
19:15
SPEAKER_04: I mean it's we haven't talked to him for a while.
19:17
SPEAKER_10: So so Jeff Carriani is a is a good friend of ours.
19:21
SPEAKER_10: Um I went to high school with him.
19:23
SPEAKER_10: I remember sitting next to he was one of those guys that was um well, let's back up.
19:29
SPEAKER_10: I w in high school, I was one of those guys that you know how high school uh socially is broken up into different clicks.
19:38
SPEAKER_10: Clicks.
19:38
SPEAKER_10: Oh, yeah.
19:39
SPEAKER_10: Yeah.
19:39
SPEAKER_10: So you got your well aware.
19:40
SPEAKER_10: You got your jocks, you got your music geeks, you got your stoners, you know, or whatever, and and and and you got your wallflowers, you got your just just people that kind of blend in with everybody.
19:52
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, it's basically the breakfast club.
19:54
SPEAKER_10: Yeah, pretty much.
19:54
SPEAKER_10: Yeah.
19:55
SPEAKER_10: I was one of those guys in high school that was friends with everybody.
19:59
SPEAKER_10: I had stoner friends, I had um band geek friends, because I was in the band.
20:03
SPEAKER_10: Uh, I had athlete friends, and uh they had this uh this group uh of guys that were like um for lack of a better phrase, they thought they were better than everybody else.
20:16
SPEAKER_10: Um would you call those like preppies, maybe, or was it the pigs?
20:21
SPEAKER_10: Yeah.
20:22
SPEAKER_10: I didn't want to go there, but yeah.
20:23
SPEAKER_10: I remember the pigs.
20:24
SPEAKER_10: Yeah, they did call themselves pigs.
20:25
SPEAKER_04: I'm not even from this town, and I remember the pigs.
20:27
SPEAKER_10: Yeah, they did call themselves pigs.
20:28
SPEAKER_10: Well, Kariani was not in that group, but close to that group.
20:35
SPEAKER_04: He he was on the boundary.
20:37
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, he skirted it.
20:39
SPEAKER_10: Yeah, so but he was one of those guys like I was where he really didn't care who you were.
20:44
SPEAKER_10: Yeah.
20:45
SPEAKER_10: Uh he'd talk to you.
20:46
SPEAKER_10: You know, he was just a really, really good guy.
20:48
SPEAKER_10: Yeah.
20:48
SPEAKER_10: And so we took a sociology class together and we we sociology uh half a year and then psychology the other half of the year, and we sat next to each other and and talked a lot, actually.
20:58
SPEAKER_10: And then was this senior year?
21:02
SPEAKER_10: Junior year, junior year of high school, he got in a major car accident.
21:06
SPEAKER_10: Yeah, very bad one, very, very, very bad car accident, almost died.
21:10
SPEAKER_10: Yeah.
21:11
SPEAKER_10: Um and spent it must have been junior year because he spent most of the year recovering uh away from school, and then he came back to school.
21:20
SPEAKER_10: And you know, it it it took a while, but we became close and he started hanging out with us, you know, after like after graduation and everything.
21:29
SPEAKER_10: Yeah.
21:30
SPEAKER_10: And then he got to know you and and used to come to our rehearsals.
21:34
SPEAKER_10: Oh yeah.
21:34
SPEAKER_10: Yeah, yeah.
21:35
SPEAKER_10: Just a just a just a sweet kid.
21:37
SPEAKER_10: Yeah.
21:37
SPEAKER_10: And uh love Jeff.
21:38
SPEAKER_10: So so you're right, though.
21:40
SPEAKER_04: That's a that's the very first time.
21:41
SPEAKER_04: I'm the very first time.
21:42
SPEAKER_04: Because you were living in that apartment on Blake Street, yep.
21:45
SPEAKER_04: Uh the the attic department.
21:46
SPEAKER_04: He just came we were all hanging out and he came tearing up the stairs.
21:51
SPEAKER_10: Yep.
21:51
SPEAKER_04: I mean, I remember hearing him come up the stairs because it was pretty loud.
21:54
SPEAKER_10: And he didn't know you from Adam.
21:55
SPEAKER_04: Didn't the door was open, he just ran in, he just you know, he put up the devil horns, he was just Like Metallica rule! And I'm like, who the frig is this guy?
22:05
SPEAKER_04: Yep.
22:06
SPEAKER_04: But we became fast friends because I love Metallica too.
22:09
SPEAKER_10: Right.
22:09
SPEAKER_10: You know.
22:09
SPEAKER_10: Yeah.
22:10
SPEAKER_10: So we got off on a tangent there.
22:11
SPEAKER_10: But Metallica has a new album coming out.
22:13
SPEAKER_10: Yes.
22:13
SPEAKER_10: Yes.
22:13
SPEAKER_04: And a new tour.
22:14
SPEAKER_10: And a new tour.
22:15
SPEAKER_04: And they got a new song.
22:16
SPEAKER_10: Yes.
22:17
SPEAKER_10: And we're going to play a little bit of that new song, which you haven't heard yet.
22:19
SPEAKER_10: I haven't heard yet.
22:20
SPEAKER_10: Yes.
22:20
SPEAKER_10: I like it.
22:21
SPEAKER_10: I really do.
22:22
SPEAKER_10: Well, if you like it, though.
22:23
SPEAKER_10: I'm not scared.
22:26
SPEAKER_03: This sucks.
22:27
SPEAKER_03: You're probably right.
22:29
SPEAKER_10: The brand new song is called Lux Eterna.
22:32
SPEAKER_10: And it's the first single from their upcoming album, 72 Seasons, which is an interesting title.
22:39
SPEAKER_10: It's the first new music in more than six years.
22:41
SPEAKER_10: Of course, the old Hardwired to Self-Destruct.
22:43
SPEAKER_10: We talked about that last week, I think.
22:45
SPEAKER_10: Yeah.
22:45
SPEAKER_10: Hardwired to self-destruct was.
22:47
SPEAKER_04: Well, originally we started talking about Death Magnetic.
22:49
SPEAKER_10: Right.
22:49
SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
22:50
SPEAKER_10: But that was their last album.
22:51
SPEAKER_10: Right.
22:51
SPEAKER_10: Hardwired.
22:53
SPEAKER_10: So it's going to be released on CD, black vinyl, two different colored vinyl variations, and digital, of course.
22:58
SPEAKER_10: Hetfield said the title refers to the first 18 years of our lives that form our true or false selves.
23:05
SPEAKER_10: The concept that we were told who we are by our parents, a possible pigeonholing around what kind of personality we are.
23:12
SPEAKER_10: I think the most interesting part of this is the continued study of those core beliefs and how it affects our perception of the world today.
23:19
SPEAKER_10: Much of our adult experience is reenactment or reaction to these childhood experiences.
23:24
SPEAKER_10: Prisoners of childhood are breaking free of those bondages we carry.
23:28
SPEAKER_10: Who knew that James Hetfield was so deep?
23:31
SPEAKER_04: He is.
23:32
SPEAKER_10: He's fairly deep.
23:33
SPEAKER_10: I know, I was just joking.
23:34
SPEAKER_04: But I mean he comes from he comes from Scientol uh not science Christian science.
23:38
SPEAKER_04: Christian science, yeah.
23:40
SPEAKER_10: Yeah.
23:40
SPEAKER_04: I mean if he which is an interesting thing.
23:43
SPEAKER_04: And I think and he blames that for the death of his mom.
23:49
SPEAKER_10: Christian science?
23:49
SPEAKER_10: Christian science.
23:50
SPEAKER_10: Really?
23:50
SPEAKER_04: Well, because Christian sciences don't believe in medicine.
23:54
SPEAKER_10: Right.
23:54
SPEAKER_04: They think, you know, you you pray hard enough, God will just heal whoever.
23:59
SPEAKER_07: Right.
23:59
SPEAKER_04: Well, that's not how it works.
24:01
SPEAKER_04: And his mom passed away.
24:02
SPEAKER_04: I mean, she had cancer.
24:03
SPEAKER_08: I mean, you know, that's you know God can heal, but he doesn't always just So she didn't seek any medical help.
24:09
SPEAKER_04: No, for because of her beliefs in Christian science.
24:12
SPEAKER_10: Wow.
24:12
SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
24:12
SPEAKER_04: So he grew up with that anger, you know, you know, and I think that's reflected in his music.
24:17
SPEAKER_04: And it sounds like it's reflected in that.
24:19
SPEAKER_10: 72 seasons?
24:20
SPEAKER_10: Yeah.
24:21
SPEAKER_10: Yeah.
24:21
SPEAKER_04: And well, and this this little that little bit you just uh you know just talked about.
24:26
SPEAKER_10: That's true.
24:26
SPEAKER_10: Um they're also like you said, embarking on an extensive 46-day global tour next year that begins in April and lasts until Saturday.
24:34
SPEAKER_04: Well, they're gonna be in Foxboro, dude.
24:36
SPEAKER_10: Are they really?
24:36
SPEAKER_10: Yeah.
24:36
SPEAKER_10: Well, you know who is with them.
24:38
SPEAKER_04: Uh Mammoth.
24:40
SPEAKER_04: WVAC.
24:41
SPEAKER_04: Yep.
24:41
SPEAKER_04: Uh Wolfgang and uh Pantera.
24:43
SPEAKER_10: Pantera.
24:44
SPEAKER_10: That's gonna be so with Zach Wilde.
24:46
SPEAKER_10: Yes.
24:47
SPEAKER_10: Yes.
24:47
SPEAKER_04: And uh uh uh uh Charlie Charlie Benati.
24:51
SPEAKER_10: Bonati.
24:51
SPEAKER_10: Thank you.
24:52
SPEAKER_10: Charlie Benati.
24:52
SPEAKER_10: Yeah.
24:53
SPEAKER_10: I was gonna say Belenante, and I was like, that's not even right.
24:56
SPEAKER_10: Yeah, no, that's who's that guy?
24:58
SPEAKER_10: That's gonna be a pretty intense show.
25:00
SPEAKER_10: So do you want to hear this song?
25:01
SPEAKER_03: Of course I want to.
25:02
SPEAKER_10: Okay, so this is Lux Eterna, brand new Metallica off the new album 72 Seasons, which comes out um soon.
27:16
SPEAKER_04: No is missing from that guitar stall.
27:21
SPEAKER_12: I noticed that.
27:24
SPEAKER_12: That's an inside joke.
27:25
SPEAKER_12: Kurt Kurt loves the wide.
27:28
SPEAKER_12: So what do you think?
27:29
SPEAKER_10: I mean, that's I like the whole I like it a lot.
27:32
SPEAKER_10: Yeah, I'm excited for for that.
27:34
SPEAKER_04: That's gonna be good album.
27:36
SPEAKER_10: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
27:36
SPEAKER_10: 72 seasons, uh, the new Metallica.
27:39
SPEAKER_10: That's again it's gonna be released um in April, I believe, of of next year.
27:44
SPEAKER_10: Oh, it's gonna be so sweet, man.
27:46
SPEAKER_10: Um so yeah.
27:51
SPEAKER_04: Metallica is such an interesting phenomenon.
27:55
SPEAKER_10: Yeah.
27:56
SPEAKER_04: You know what I mean?
27:56
SPEAKER_04: Because I mean they they get you know, they they basically they come up as thrash.
28:01
SPEAKER_10: Right.
28:02
SPEAKER_10: Well, here's the thing.
28:03
SPEAKER_10: And the whole music industry is against them.
28:05
SPEAKER_04: Oh, it has been from the start.
28:07
SPEAKER_10: That's what I mean.
28:07
SPEAKER_10: Yeah.
28:08
SPEAKER_10: Because like you said, they they came up as thrash and everybody's like, oh, that's that's over there.
28:12
SPEAKER_10: Yeah.
28:13
SPEAKER_10: Music, real music is over here, right.
28:15
SPEAKER_10: And that's over there.
28:17
SPEAKER_10: And they just, you know, grass grassroots develop this following, right?
28:22
SPEAKER_10: And then um it just built from there.
28:26
SPEAKER_10: Yeah.
28:27
SPEAKER_10: And they became the the biggest band in the world.
28:31
SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
28:32
SPEAKER_04: And they pretty basically did it by themselves.
28:34
SPEAKER_10: Yes, they did.
28:35
SPEAKER_10: Yep.
28:35
SPEAKER_04: That and that in the black album.
28:37
SPEAKER_10: Right.
28:38
SPEAKER_04: But I mean, you know, I mean, it made it, you know, I mean, they got away from the thrash.
28:43
SPEAKER_10: Yeah.
28:44
SPEAKER_04: And just was like straight metal.
28:47
SPEAKER_10: What did I read?
28:48
SPEAKER_10: Uh there was another article on um I can't remember where it was.
28:56
SPEAKER_10: But it was about James Hetfield, and he had said, maybe it was here on Ultimate Classic Road.
29:01
SPEAKER_10: Yeah, there it is, right there.
29:02
SPEAKER_10: Uh James Hetfield says, because I know you were t you were talking about they went they went just metal.
29:07
SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
29:08
SPEAKER_10: Or or whatever.
29:09
SPEAKER_10: Um because load and reload.
29:11
SPEAKER_10: This is the often discussed era of Metallica, which is after the black album.
29:16
SPEAKER_04: But I like that era better than I like the St.
29:19
SPEAKER_04: Anger.
29:20
SPEAKER_10: Well, so he says I and I like load and reload.
29:25
SPEAKER_10: I don't know why.
29:25
SPEAKER_10: There's there's some good songs.
29:27
SPEAKER_10: There really are.
29:27
SPEAKER_10: Yeah.
29:28
SPEAKER_04: Um like the house that Jack builds.
29:30
SPEAKER_12: Uh um, well, I mean, I I like the whole uh what was that?
29:34
SPEAKER_12: I like James Hetfield singing.
29:36
SPEAKER_04: What was that one with the what's her face?
29:39
SPEAKER_10: Oh, Marion Faithful.
29:40
SPEAKER_10: Marion Faithful.
29:41
SPEAKER_10: What was that song?
29:42
SPEAKER_10: It was uh That was a such a good song.
29:44
SPEAKER_10: Wherever I may roam?
29:45
SPEAKER_10: No, no, not wherever No, it's um I know exactly Memory Remains.
29:49
SPEAKER_10: Memory Remains.
29:50
SPEAKER_10: That is such a good song.
29:51
SPEAKER_10: Well, there's a lot of good songs on those albums.
29:53
SPEAKER_10: Uh King Nothing, which is good.
29:56
SPEAKER_10: Yeah.
29:56
SPEAKER_10: Uh just I like hearing him sing.
29:58
SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
29:58
SPEAKER_10: You know?
29:58
SPEAKER_10: Um because Unforgiven was the first time.
30:00
SPEAKER_10: Well, no.
30:01
SPEAKER_10: He didn't want to be the one, actually.
30:03
SPEAKER_10: He sang on one.
30:05
SPEAKER_04: Who did?
30:05
SPEAKER_10: Hetfield.
30:06
SPEAKER_10: Um what I mean is like he wasn't.
30:09
SPEAKER_10: He he was doing both.
30:10
SPEAKER_10: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
30:10
SPEAKER_10: He was doing both, but it like the soft part seems actually.
30:13
SPEAKER_10: You could tell he's got a good voice.
30:15
SPEAKER_04: He does have a good voice.
30:15
SPEAKER_10: And then the black album.
30:17
SPEAKER_10: And then the black album came out.
30:18
SPEAKER_04: He didn't want to be the singer.
30:19
SPEAKER_10: Well, I who does?
30:22
SPEAKER_04: He just had to be because nobody else would do it.
30:24
SPEAKER_04: Right.
30:24
SPEAKER_10: So I mean, he sang on uh The Unforgiven and Nothing Else Matters, those those ballads.
30:31
SPEAKER_10: Yeah.
30:31
SPEAKER_10: And it was great.
30:32
SPEAKER_10: I mean he's got a great voice.
30:34
SPEAKER_10: He does, yeah.
30:34
SPEAKER_10: He doesn't sing.
30:35
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
30:35
SPEAKER_10: Um he says this headline here on ultimate classicrock.com, James Hefitt says Metallica's load and reload felt forced.
30:44
SPEAKER_10: Um we've always been very organic.
30:47
SPEAKER_10: Load and reload felt different to me.
30:49
SPEAKER_10: It said it it felt forced.
30:51
SPEAKER_10: I'm just I'm I'm skimming the article here.
30:54
SPEAKER_10: Uh the band members even cut their hair.
30:56
SPEAKER_10: I remember they took a lot of heat for cutting their hair, which was stupid.
30:59
SPEAKER_04: Well, yeah, I it was I think just because it was such a radical change.
31:03
SPEAKER_10: Yeah, true.
31:04
SPEAKER_04: You know, because they all had that long hair and blah, and then they all cut it.
31:08
SPEAKER_04: And it was like, what's going on?
31:11
SPEAKER_10: Right.
31:11
SPEAKER_10: You know?
31:12
SPEAKER_10: Um this isn't the first time he's talked about load and reload in less flattering terms.
31:17
SPEAKER_10: Uh a few years ago he told Clash Magazine that he followed drummer Lars Elric and guitarist Kirk Hammett's leads on both of those LPs, even if he wasn't completely on board with their vision.
31:27
SPEAKER_10: So he's blaming the other band members for load and reload.
31:30
SPEAKER_10: He's like, You got two guys that are really driving the thing, Lars and myself, and and when we don't agree, there has to be a compromise.
31:36
SPEAKER_10: So he's saying he compromised a lot for load and reload.
31:40
SPEAKER_04: But you gotta do that in a band, too.
31:41
SPEAKER_10: And you mentioned St.
31:42
SPEAKER_10: Anger.
31:43
SPEAKER_10: Uh, even though load and reload divided fans, their controversy paled in comparison to Metallica's next album, 2003 St.
31:49
SPEAKER_10: Anger, with its clanging, switched-off snare drum, new metal riffs, and total absence of guitar solos, the album remains the most polarizing entry in Metallica's discography.
31:59
SPEAKER_10: Uh of course, for except for Lou Reed's uh Lulu.
32:03
SPEAKER_04: You mean Lou Graham?
32:05
SPEAKER_10: Uh Hetfield, however, takes the mixed reaction in stride.
32:09
SPEAKER_10: He says, eh, it's honest.
32:11
SPEAKER_10: You might not identify with it or you don't like the sound, but that's where we were.
32:16
SPEAKER_10: And that's what we put out.
32:17
SPEAKER_10: It'll have its time, maybe.
32:19
SPEAKER_10: Maybe not.
32:21
SPEAKER_04: That's true.
32:21
SPEAKER_04: Um, but there's a lot of good there's there's a lot of good songs on this.
32:24
SPEAKER_04: There are.
32:25
SPEAKER_04: There are.
32:25
SPEAKER_04: I you know not the whole album's not great, but but there's a like some kind of monster.
32:30
SPEAKER_04: It's probably one of the greatest songs they've ever written.
32:33
SPEAKER_10: Yeah.
32:33
SPEAKER_04: You know?
32:34
SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
32:34
SPEAKER_10: So And it was an interesting process to watch.
32:37
SPEAKER_04: It was interesting because it went from you know uh James and Lars writing all the lyrics to them all writing the lyrics.
32:47
SPEAKER_04: Right.
32:47
SPEAKER_04: You know what I mean?
32:48
SPEAKER_04: Right.
32:49
SPEAKER_04: I think that's where the you know, the the not the controversy, but the you know, the difference in sound.
32:57
SPEAKER_10: Right.
32:57
SPEAKER_10: And not only it was the way they wrote the lyrics, they were like in the in the studio, they were making them up as they went along.
33:04
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, they would sit they would actually sit in the room, you know, in the in the recording studio and write lyrics.
33:09
SPEAKER_04: They took like like an you know, how I don't know how long it was, but they would just sit and take time and write lyrics.
33:14
SPEAKER_04: That's all they would do.
33:15
SPEAKER_04: And then they would compare notes and then putting things together that they liked, and I was it was actually pretty cool.
33:20
SPEAKER_10: That whole process must have been cathartic for them.
33:22
SPEAKER_10: I mean it was it was you know, just I think it I think it I think it got to that point.
33:28
SPEAKER_04: I think at first it was a little weird.
33:30
SPEAKER_04: Um, but then it was you know, the more they got used to it.
33:34
SPEAKER_04: It's like anything else, you know.
33:35
SPEAKER_04: Right.
33:35
SPEAKER_04: You know, more you do it, the better it gets.
33:38
SPEAKER_10: That was the first one with uh um the bass player.
33:41
SPEAKER_10: Right.
33:42
SPEAKER_04: Well, Bob Rock played the bass on the album.
33:45
SPEAKER_10: That's right, because they that's when they got him.
33:47
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, that it was that during that process when when then they were gonna go on tour, they were like, hey, we need a bass player.
33:53
SPEAKER_10: Right, and they held auditions and Rob Trujillo auditioned.
33:56
SPEAKER_10: Yep.
33:56
SPEAKER_04: From he was from Suicidal Tendencies and Well, yeah, so he's played with a lot of people.
34:00
SPEAKER_04: Suicidal, groove inf uh infectious grooves.
34:03
SPEAKER_04: Did he play with Ozzy for a while?
34:04
SPEAKER_04: He did play with Ozzy.
34:05
SPEAKER_04: That's what I thought.
34:05
SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
34:06
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, that's what I thought.
34:06
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, he's been all over the place.
34:08
SPEAKER_04: I mean, he he's a very underrated uh bass player.
34:10
SPEAKER_10: Yeah.
34:11
SPEAKER_10: Except uh when you talk to Shane uh Mountain who shared that video.
34:14
SPEAKER_10: Did you did you ever see that video?
34:15
SPEAKER_10: Yeah.
34:16
SPEAKER_10: Uh it was really bad.
34:17
SPEAKER_10: Yeah, well, what are you gonna do?
34:18
SPEAKER_10: I gotta wonder if it was put on though.
34:21
SPEAKER_04: It could have been.
34:21
SPEAKER_04: You know, because they m they make those videos where people are purposely singing bad and Well, you c you can't trust anything that's on the internet nowadays.
34:30
SPEAKER_04: It's true.
34:30
SPEAKER_10: Because you can manipulate so much on the If you wonder what we're talking about, there's a video of of Rob Trujillo and Kirk Hammett of Metallica playing a prince song in concert and Rob is singing it.
34:43
SPEAKER_10: It's pretty bad.
34:45
SPEAKER_04: But he's not known for his singing either.
34:47
SPEAKER_04: I will say that.
34:48
SPEAKER_10: But I mean it's not just the singing, it's just it's the it's the the whole I mean the playing of the song is not great.
34:53
SPEAKER_10: Well, I mean, yeah, but that's it.
34:54
SPEAKER_04: It might have been just one of those things where they were just like, hey, let's off the cuff.
34:57
SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
34:58
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, yeah.
34:58
SPEAKER_10: It could have been.
34:59
SPEAKER_10: And and I am of of the belief that it was probably manufactured.
35:04
SPEAKER_04: It was probably just, you know, them just goofing off.
35:07
SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
35:07
SPEAKER_04: You know, that's what I'm thinking, you know, but you know, well, I don't know.
35:10
SPEAKER_04: I wasn't there.
35:11
SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
35:11
SPEAKER_04: I haven't talked to those guys in a while.
35:13
SPEAKER_04: I don't know what's going on.
35:15
SPEAKER_10: Uh Kurt, Rob, coming.
35:17
unknown: Yeah.
35:19
SPEAKER_10: Um, so that's exciting.
35:20
SPEAKER_10: Yeah Metallica, um, new album, 72 seasons come out.
35:24
SPEAKER_10: Anytime a new Metallica album comes out, I get like set to be set to come out in April, and they're going to be on tour with uh Wolfgang, Mammoth V uh WVH, and Pantera.
35:35
SPEAKER_10: So that's that's pretty cool.
35:37
SPEAKER_10: That's pretty cool.
35:38
SPEAKER_04: Um, the way they're touring too is different because uh what what did they call it?
35:42
SPEAKER_04: It was like no repeats.
35:44
SPEAKER_10: What is what is it?
35:45
SPEAKER_04: The tour?
35:46
SPEAKER_04: I I have no idea.
35:46
SPEAKER_04: I I couldn't find out any information.
35:48
SPEAKER_04: Um I couldn't understand what it meant.
35:51
SPEAKER_10: Oh, okay.
35:52
SPEAKER_10: Let's see what this says here.
35:53
SPEAKER_10: It says Metallica will also embark on an extensive 46-day global tour uh last until September uh of twenty twenty-four.
36:01
SPEAKER_10: Yeah.
36:01
SPEAKER_10: They're scheduled to perform in twenty-two cities, playing two shows at each location, and have promised that no songs will be repeated during each pair of concerts.
36:10
SPEAKER_04: Okay, that's what they meant.
36:11
SPEAKER_04: Okay.
36:12
SPEAKER_10: Um oh Greta Van Fleet is gonna join them on some some shows as well.
36:16
SPEAKER_10: That'd be cool.
36:17
SPEAKER_10: Uh so yeah, so either gonna be two shows in a city, and you'll have to go to both shows if you want to hear different songs, right?
36:24
SPEAKER_10: That's a good way to do it.
36:25
SPEAKER_03: Twist my arm.
36:26
SPEAKER_10: Right.
36:27
SPEAKER_03: But I I'm worried about ticket prices.
36:30
SPEAKER_10: Yeah, well that's that's that's gonna be scary.
36:32
SPEAKER_10: That whole ticket master thing's gotta get worked out because figure something out.
36:35
SPEAKER_10: Yeah.
36:35
SPEAKER_10: What did I see?
36:36
SPEAKER_10: Was it f forty-six thousand dollars for a Taylor Swift ticket?
36:39
SPEAKER_10: Yeah.
36:40
SPEAKER_10: It doesn't make any sense.
36:40
SPEAKER_12: That was just one of the prices.
36:42
SPEAKER_12: It doesn't make any sense.
36:43
SPEAKER_04: I don't it does not.
36:44
SPEAKER_12: It does not.
36:45
SPEAKER_10: And she's she's gotta be pissed.
36:47
SPEAKER_04: I would be.
36:48
SPEAKER_04: You know, I mean that's that's what happens when you let you know some third party run, you know, right.
36:54
SPEAKER_04: I mean, you she should be in charge of that.
36:55
SPEAKER_10: But who would pay forty-six thousand dollars?
36:58
SPEAKER_04: There are people out there with more money than brains.
37:00
unknown: Oh my gosh.
37:02
SPEAKER_10: Anyway, um I have this other thing on ultimate classicrock.com that I think was really cool.
37:07
SPEAKER_04: Okay.
37:08
SPEAKER_10: Um rejected original titles for classic albums.
37:15
SPEAKER_04: Oh, okay.
37:15
SPEAKER_04: This would be interesting.
37:17
SPEAKER_10: Um, and some of this you may know.
37:19
SPEAKER_10: Um especially the Beatles ones, because the Beatles had different titles for their albums.
37:26
SPEAKER_04: Well, yesterday was Scrambled Eggs.
37:28
SPEAKER_10: No, that's a song.
37:28
SPEAKER_10: Yeah, I know.
37:29
SPEAKER_04: You know, you're along that i I assume it's in that vein.
37:33
SPEAKER_10: Yeah.
37:34
SPEAKER_10: Yeah.
37:34
SPEAKER_10: Um so the the Beatles' second movie, Help, was called Eight Arms to Hold You.
37:40
SPEAKER_10: Yeah, that was uh almost until the very last minute.
37:44
SPEAKER_10: Uh the revolutionary well, the album Revolver originally was called Abracadabra.
37:52
unknown: T.
37:52
SPEAKER_03: Yes.
37:53
SPEAKER_10: You knew that?
37:54
SPEAKER_10: Yes.
37:54
SPEAKER_10: Uh but after they found out that another band had named their album that, they kicked around a bunch of ideas, including Four Sides of the Eternal Triangle, Magic Circles, and Beatles on Safari before settling on Revolver.
38:10
SPEAKER_04: Ooh, look, a lion!
38:11
SPEAKER_10: Beatles on Safari.
38:13
SPEAKER_04: That would be great.
38:15
SPEAKER_04: Um I almost wanted to call the episode that.
38:18
SPEAKER_10: Fleetwood Max rumors.
38:20
SPEAKER_10: Oh, I heard my pipes again.
38:22
SPEAKER_04: What's that, pipes?
38:24
SPEAKER_04: That's a good point.
38:26
SPEAKER_10: Shut up! So Fleetwood Max Rumors um was originally called Yesterday's Gone.
38:34
SPEAKER_10: I like rumors better.
38:35
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, rumors are a lot better.
38:37
SPEAKER_10: I'm just gonna read some of the, I'm not gonna go over.
38:39
SPEAKER_10: Oh, yeah, yeah.
38:40
SPEAKER_10: You know, uh the Rolling Stones Let It Bleed was originally called Automatic Changer.
38:46
SPEAKER_04: For like a record.
38:47
SPEAKER_10: Yeah.
38:47
SPEAKER_10: Like a record.
38:48
SPEAKER_04: No, I like Let It Bleed better.
38:50
SPEAKER_04: Um even though it's not great, but it's better an automatic changer.
38:55
SPEAKER_10: Uh let's see.
38:56
SPEAKER_10: Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers, you're gonna get it, was originally called Terminal Romance.
39:02
SPEAKER_04: That's a way better name.
39:03
SPEAKER_04: I like that.
39:04
SPEAKER_10: Terminal romance?
39:05
SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
39:06
SPEAKER_04: It's like that uh it's like that lyric in uh the Eagles song.
39:11
SPEAKER_04: Uh he was something handsome and she was terminally pretty.
39:16
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, yeah.
39:17
SPEAKER_04: That line.
39:18
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
39:18
SPEAKER_02: That's such a great line.
39:19
SPEAKER_04: It is every time I hear that, but what's on oh, it's uh Life in the Past Line.
39:22
SPEAKER_04: Life in the Past Line.
39:23
SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
39:23
SPEAKER_10: She was terminally pretty.
39:24
SPEAKER_10: Yeah.
39:25
SPEAKER_04: No, no.
39:26
SPEAKER_04: What was it?
39:27
SPEAKER_04: He was something handsome and she was terminally pretty.
39:30
SPEAKER_04: What was the it was it's said it's such a great line anyway.
39:33
SPEAKER_04: But um I digress.
39:36
SPEAKER_10: Let's see, I'm trying to read this Tom Petty thing, but I guess it's not uh Term what was it?
39:40
SPEAKER_09: Termin Terminally pretty?
39:42
SPEAKER_10: No, no, the Oh, Terminal Romance.
39:44
SPEAKER_09: Terminal romance.
39:45
SPEAKER_10: Because he liked that.
39:45
SPEAKER_10: He was talking about their year.
39:46
SPEAKER_10: He admitted to Rolling Stone that the band's rise in fame had resulted in a really rocky romance year.
39:53
SPEAKER_10: In other words, they were gone all the time, so they their you know significant others.
39:57
SPEAKER_10: Thus the title for the second album was going to be Terminal Romance.
40:00
SPEAKER_10: At the last minute, he decided to change the name to You're Gonna Get It.
40:04
SPEAKER_10: Petty notified their record label of the decision by anonymously mailing them pieces of paper scrolled with the words, You're gonna get it.
40:13
SPEAKER_10: The label, interpreting the notes as a threat, contacted the FBI and asked them to investigate.
40:18
SPEAKER_10: Days later, the band revealed what had happened.
40:21
unknown: That's funny.
40:22
SPEAKER_10: I never knew that story.
40:23
SPEAKER_10: I never did either.
40:25
SPEAKER_10: Um Led Zeppelin's album, Presence, uh, was originally called Obelisk or Obelisk.
40:35
SPEAKER_10: Uh it was their seventh album, didn't have a title during its initial recording sessions.
40:39
SPEAKER_10: When the band called an Audible and fled to Germany to finish the release, Jimmy Page began calling the calling it the Munich LP.
40:45
SPEAKER_10: Strapped for Time, the guitarist put in all night sessions to get the album done.
40:49
SPEAKER_10: It was finally finished in 75.
40:51
SPEAKER_10: Robert Plant suggested calling the album Thanksgiving, given that it was completed a day before the American holiday.
40:58
SPEAKER_10: The album's cover art spawned a new title option.
41:01
SPEAKER_10: The concept was designed designed by Hypnosis, the London art group, responsible for some of the 70s' most iconic LP covers.
41:08
SPEAKER_10: A black object, which recalled a Space Odyssey's famous monolith, was at the center of the project, so the album was originally titled Obelisk, based on the shape of the mysterious item.
41:19
SPEAKER_10: It was later changed when it suggested that the band's force emitted some sort of unexplainable presence.
41:28
SPEAKER_04: I mean, Jimmy Page is kind of a weird guy.
41:30
SPEAKER_04: He's a big fan of uh Alistair Crowley and Oh yeah.
41:34
SPEAKER_10: I read the article, the biography there.
41:36
SPEAKER_10: Um so the Beatles, we're back to the Beatles.
41:39
SPEAKER_10: Did you know this?
41:40
SPEAKER_10: Uh the 1968 double album is a self-titled release.
41:45
SPEAKER_10: Um it's the white album.
41:48
SPEAKER_10: Right.
41:48
SPEAKER_10: Okay.
41:48
SPEAKER_10: Do you know what that was originally called?
41:52
SPEAKER_10: It's got back in the USSR.
41:54
SPEAKER_10: Dear Prudence, Happiness is a one gun, Helter Skelter, Black Burn.
41:57
SPEAKER_10: The album was originally titled A Doll's House.
42:01
SPEAKER_04: Okay, I didn't know that.
42:02
SPEAKER_10: And playwright and artist John Patrick Byrne was commissioned to create the album's artwork when the Beatles discovered that English prog rock group Family had released the similarly titled Music in a Doll's House.
42:13
SPEAKER_10: They scrapped the cover art and title ideas, pivoting to a clean, minimalist white look instead.
42:20
SPEAKER_04: And history was made.
42:22
SPEAKER_10: Yeah.
42:22
SPEAKER_10: Everybody calls it the white album.
42:24
SPEAKER_10: Uh Dark Side of the Moon from Pig Floyd was originally called Eclipse.
42:28
SPEAKER_10: Of course, there's a song on the album.
42:29
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, I was about to say another song called Eclipse.
42:31
SPEAKER_10: Yep.
42:32
SPEAKER_10: Now, you might know this, because we just got done talking about Metallica.
42:37
SPEAKER_10: The Kill Em All album.
42:38
SPEAKER_10: Do you remember what that was originally going to be called?
42:43
SPEAKER_03: I think it's so awesome.
42:46
SPEAKER_03: I'm not sure.
42:47
SPEAKER_10: Um, they wanted a title that would grab uh the people's attention.
42:52
SPEAKER_10: They initially settled on Metal Up Your Ass.
42:55
SPEAKER_04: Oh, yeah, metal up your ass.
42:57
SPEAKER_04: Yes.
42:57
SPEAKER_04: Yes, I do remember that.
42:58
SPEAKER_04: Because there's a lot of t-shirts there.
43:00
SPEAKER_04: Because they had a lot of t-shirts made of a toilet with like a like a steel spike coming out of the bed.
43:06
SPEAKER_02: Right.
43:07
SPEAKER_10: So a record label told us that the record distributors in America had strongly objected to the title and the planned sleeve.
43:14
SPEAKER_10: We ran the real risk of not having our products stocked, Lars said.
43:18
SPEAKER_10: That would have helped us at all.
43:19
SPEAKER_10: Upset that the title would have to be changed.
43:21
SPEAKER_10: Basis Cliff Burton vented his frustration.
43:24
SPEAKER_10: You know what?
43:25
SPEAKER_10: F those effers, man.
43:26
SPEAKER_10: Those effing record outlet people.
43:28
SPEAKER_10: We should just kill them all.
43:30
SPEAKER_10: With that, a new title was born.
43:34
SPEAKER_04: Yes, metal up your bat.
43:36
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, yeah.
43:37
SPEAKER_04: Okay.
43:37
SPEAKER_02: That's pretty cool.
43:38
SPEAKER_04: Well, I mean, they're they're they put out like a like a E P.
43:42
SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
43:42
SPEAKER_04: And I think that was called Hell Betting for Leather.
43:45
SPEAKER_04: Um but that was only that was like them trying to just like you know, it was like on a tape, you know, and they just think I don't know locally, you know.
43:56
SPEAKER_04: Um Nothing ever never nothing will ever be The 498 Garage EP.
44:03
SPEAKER_08: Oh, right.
44:05
SPEAKER_04: $4.98.
44:06
SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
44:07
SPEAKER_04: That's part of the title.
44:09
SPEAKER_04: Just saying.
44:09
SPEAKER_04: Right.
44:10
SPEAKER_04: I I think well, wait, it was$4.98, right?
44:12
SPEAKER_04: I think so.
44:13
SPEAKER_04: I think so.
44:13
SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
44:14
SPEAKER_04: Couldn't remember.
44:15
SPEAKER_04: I just I think that's a great title.
44:17
SPEAKER_10: Um this is kind of related to Metallica, actually, because didn't Metallica, didn't James Henfield wear a guitar back in the 80s or I think it was late 80s, that said Kill Bon Jovi?
44:29
SPEAKER_02: I don't think so.
44:30
SPEAKER_02: I think he did.
44:31
SPEAKER_02: Maybe he did.
44:32
SPEAKER_02: I think he did.
44:32
SPEAKER_04: He did a lot of things.
44:33
SPEAKER_10: Yeah.
44:36
SPEAKER_04: That sounds more something like Slayer would do.
44:39
SPEAKER_10: It was a joke.
44:39
SPEAKER_10: It was a joke.
44:40
SPEAKER_10: Oh, sure, yeah.
44:41
SPEAKER_10: But I think it said, I think it said Kill Bon Jovi.
44:44
SPEAKER_10: Could.
44:44
SPEAKER_10: I don't know.
44:45
SPEAKER_09: I'll look that up after.
44:46
SPEAKER_10: Yeah, I'll say you'll have to find that.
44:47
SPEAKER_10: But Bon Jovi's New Jersey album was originally called Sons of Beaches.
44:51
SPEAKER_04: That's a terrible name.
44:52
SPEAKER_10: It is a terrible name.
44:53
SPEAKER_04: New Jersey's way better.
44:55
SPEAKER_10: Nirvana's Nevermind.
44:57
SPEAKER_10: Originally called Sheep.
45:00
SPEAKER_04: I think I did hear that.
45:01
SPEAKER_10: Yeah, I didn't know that.
45:02
SPEAKER_04: I think Dave talked about it.
45:04
SPEAKER_10: Uh let's see.
45:06
SPEAKER_10: To Cobain, this title reflected the mindless masses who would flock to buy the band's release.
45:11
SPEAKER_10: The singer even gave Sheep an unofficial slogan.
45:14
SPEAKER_10: Because you want to not.
45:16
SPEAKER_10: Because you want to not, because everyone else is.
45:21
SPEAKER_10: The title was changed to Nevermind after Nirvana signed the major label record deal.
45:25
SPEAKER_04: Never mind.
45:26
SPEAKER_04: We're not gonna call that.
45:27
SPEAKER_10: U2's Joshua Tree was called the Two Americas.
45:31
SPEAKER_10: Really?
45:31
SPEAKER_10: Yeah.
45:32
SPEAKER_10: Interesting.
45:32
SPEAKER_10: Well, I didn't I don't I'm not gonna read into that.
45:34
SPEAKER_10: Let's see.
45:35
SPEAKER_10: Oh, The Beatles, Abbey Road.
45:37
SPEAKER_10: Do you remember what that was originally called?
45:39
SPEAKER_10: No.
45:39
SPEAKER_10: Everest.
45:40
SPEAKER_10: Really?
45:41
SPEAKER_10: Yeah.
45:41
SPEAKER_10: Let me I have to read this one.
45:42
SPEAKER_10: Yeah.
45:43
SPEAKER_10: Despite being released before Let It Be, the Abbey Road recording sessions featured the final studio collaborations of all four Beatles.
45:48
SPEAKER_10: Throughout the process, the album was given the tentative title of Everest after a brand of cigarettes favored by engineer Jeff Emmerich.
45:55
SPEAKER_10: At first the band was enamored with the idea of flying to the Himalayas to snap the perfect cover photo.
45:59
SPEAKER_10: Then reality set in.
46:01
SPEAKER_10: It was around July when it was very hot outside that someone mentioned the possibility of the four of them taking a private plane over to the foothills of Mount Everest to shoot the new the cover photograph.
46:09
SPEAKER_10: Assistant engineer John Curlander remembered.
46:12
SPEAKER_10: I'm not even sure if he's British.
46:14
SPEAKER_10: But as they became more enthusiastic to finish the LP, someone, I don't remember whom, suggested, look, I can't be bothered to schlep all the way over to the Himalayas for a cover.
46:22
SPEAKER_10: Why don't we just go outside, take the photo there, call the LP Abbey Road, and have d have done with it.
46:28
SPEAKER_10: That's my memory of why it became Abbey Road, because they couldn't be bothered to go to Tibet and get cold.
46:34
SPEAKER_04: That sounds like a John thing.
46:35
SPEAKER_02: That's right.
46:38
SPEAKER_04: I mean, he did write a song, I'm only sleeping.
46:41
SPEAKER_10: True.
46:41
SPEAKER_10: So um Elton John's album Caribou was originally called Old Pink Eyes.
46:48
SPEAKER_10: Old Pink Eyes is Back.
46:50
SPEAKER_03: That's a terrible name.
46:51
SPEAKER_10: Yep.
46:51
SPEAKER_10: The Who's Tommy, originally called The Deaf, Dumb, and Blind Boy.
46:56
SPEAKER_10: Tommy's way better.
46:59
SPEAKER_10: Rolling Stones Exile on Main Street was originally called Tropical Disease.
47:05
SPEAKER_10: It's terrible.
47:06
SPEAKER_10: And the Beatles album Let It Be was originally called Get Back.
47:10
SPEAKER_04: Yes, I did know that.
47:11
SPEAKER_04: Yep.
47:12
SPEAKER_10: The Clash's London Calling was originally called Last Testament.
47:16
SPEAKER_04: I didn't know that.
47:17
SPEAKER_10: Queen's last album, The Miracle, was from 1989.
47:22
SPEAKER_10: It was originally called The Invisible Men.
47:25
SPEAKER_10: I like that.
47:26
SPEAKER_10: Let's see.
47:28
SPEAKER_10: Nirvana's Inuterro was originally called I Hate Myself and I Want to Die.
47:35
SPEAKER_04: That was a song.
47:37
SPEAKER_10: Was it on Inutero?
47:38
SPEAKER_04: No, it was on the Beavis and Butthead movie soundtrack.
47:40
SPEAKER_10: Was it Nirvana?
47:42
SPEAKER_10: Yeah.
47:42
SPEAKER_10: It was.
47:43
SPEAKER_10: Yeah.
47:43
SPEAKER_10: Well, that was maybe it was originally going to be on this album.
47:47
SPEAKER_10: Let's see.
47:48
SPEAKER_10: Kirk Cobain was a notorious journaler, constantly writing letters, drawing noodles, and scrolling short phrases in his notebooks.
47:53
SPEAKER_10: The Nirvana frontman had written the words, I hate myself and I want to die in one of his journals sometime around 1992.
47:59
SPEAKER_10: This is a red flag, people.
48:00
SPEAKER_10: Yeah.
48:01
SPEAKER_10: Cobain used the phrase as a response whenever someone asked him how he was doing.
48:06
SPEAKER_10: When Nirvana began work on the follow-up to their massive breakthrough album Nevermind, Cobain suggested the dark phrase be the name of their next LP.
48:12
SPEAKER_10: It was the basis.
48:13
SPEAKER_10: Chris Novelchek, who convinced Cobain to change the title.
48:16
SPEAKER_10: The band eventually chose to call the album in utero, its name inspired by a poem written by Courtney Love.
48:23
SPEAKER_10: So yeah, that would have been a maybe somebody would have checked on Kurt if he named the album that.
48:30
SPEAKER_10: Maybe.
48:30
SPEAKER_10: I don't know.
48:31
SPEAKER_10: But yeah, there you have it.
48:32
SPEAKER_10: A long list of uh that had their you know different original titles.
48:37
SPEAKER_10: Yeah, I like that.
48:38
SPEAKER_09: Pretty cool.
48:39
SPEAKER_10: And we have to thank once again UltimateClassicrock.com.
48:42
SPEAKER_10: They're our boys our content creators.
48:45
SPEAKER_10: We're not uh much respect paying them or anything.
48:48
SPEAKER_10: We're just kind of promoting them, stealing stuff.
48:50
SPEAKER_10: Stealing stuff.
48:51
SPEAKER_04: I mean acquiring their information.
48:53
SPEAKER_04: Right.
48:54
unknown: Stealing.
48:55
SPEAKER_10: Right.
48:55
SPEAKER_10: By covert methods.
48:56
SPEAKER_07: By covert methods.
48:58
SPEAKER_04: Oh, you know what?
48:59
SPEAKER_07: Oh, is this over here?
49:00
SPEAKER_07: Because I want to make sure that I have it before I before I do.
49:04
SPEAKER_04: Can I can I talk about the documentary I saw this week?
49:07
SPEAKER_04: No.
49:07
SPEAKER_04: Okay.
49:08
SPEAKER_10: I'm just kidding.
49:08
SPEAKER_10: Go ahead.
49:09
SPEAKER_10: I forgot.
49:10
SPEAKER_10: We had so much content today.
49:11
SPEAKER_04: I know, right?
49:11
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, go ahead.
49:12
SPEAKER_04: But I did watch a really cool uh documentary called uh Let There Be Drums.
49:16
SPEAKER_04: Ooh.
49:16
SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
49:17
SPEAKER_04: It was uh and once again it was a documentary about drums that did not mention Neil.
49:24
SPEAKER_04: I don't understand it.
49:25
SPEAKER_04: I don't understand it.
49:27
SPEAKER_04: I don't know why they keep leaving him out of these.
49:30
SPEAKER_10: Because he's Canadian.
49:31
SPEAKER_04: That's probably it.
49:33
SPEAKER_04: They just went Canada.
49:35
SPEAKER_04: They don't everybody who plays drums from there.
49:37
SPEAKER_04: But no, no, it was really good.
49:39
SPEAKER_04: Uh it was done, it was made by the son of uh Beach.
49:43
SPEAKER_04: Bill Bill Kurtzman, the drummer one of the drummers from the Grateful Dead.
49:47
SPEAKER_04: Yep, yep.
49:48
SPEAKER_04: Uh he did it, he did it.
49:49
SPEAKER_04: So it was basically about him and Mickey Hart, you know, and then they, you know, because they were fans of Sandy Nelson who did the song Let There Be Drums.
49:58
SPEAKER_04: Right.
49:59
SPEAKER_04: And then they just you know go from there.
50:01
SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
50:02
SPEAKER_04: Dude, they couldn't put Neil, they couldn't mention Neil, but they put Steven Adler in it.
50:08
SPEAKER_10: Oh my.
50:09
SPEAKER_10: Yeah.
50:09
SPEAKER_10: Not that Stephen Adler is not a good drummer.
50:11
SPEAKER_04: He is a he's actually a pretty great drummer.
50:13
SPEAKER_10: He's a good drummer.
50:14
SPEAKER_04: But did you know he had a coke stroke?
50:16
unknown: Yes.
50:17
SPEAKER_04: And now he talked like I did.
50:18
SPEAKER_04: You know, I was like, wow.
50:19
SPEAKER_04: He's hard to understand sometimes.
50:20
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, because Taylor, Taylor Hawkins is in it.
50:23
SPEAKER_08: Okay.
50:23
SPEAKER_04: So this must have been made just before he died.
50:25
SPEAKER_08: Yeah.
50:26
SPEAKER_04: Um, but he was talking about meeting the first time he met Stephen Adler.
50:29
SPEAKER_04: He's like, he said, he walked up, hugged him, and said, dude, do you know how many lives you ruined with your drumming on appetite for destruction?
50:41
SPEAKER_10: Wait, speaking of Taylor Hawkins, I got the uh the new Aussie album.
50:47
SPEAKER_10: Um what's it called?
50:51
SPEAKER_10: Patient number nine.
50:52
SPEAKER_04: Oh, yeah, yeah.
50:53
SPEAKER_10: Um it sounds like Aussie.
50:55
SPEAKER_10: I mean it's good.
50:55
SPEAKER_10: Oh it's it's Aussie.
50:57
SPEAKER_10: But you know who played all over that album?
50:59
SPEAKER_10: Taylor Hawkins?
51:01
SPEAKER_10: Chad Smith?
51:02
SPEAKER_10: They were the band.
51:03
SPEAKER_10: Really?
51:03
SPEAKER_10: Zach Wilde was in there.
51:05
SPEAKER_10: Yeah.
51:05
SPEAKER_10: Uh a couple other uh well-known guitars, I can't remember off the top of my head, but yeah.
51:09
SPEAKER_10: If it wasn't Chad Smith playing drums, it was Taylor Hawkins.
51:11
SPEAKER_10: Wow.
51:12
SPEAKER_10: They kind of took turns and played on all the all the songs.
51:14
SPEAKER_10: Yeah.
51:14
SPEAKER_10: It was pretty impressive.
51:15
SPEAKER_09: Yeah, there you go.
51:16
SPEAKER_04: So yeah, it was a really good documentary.
51:18
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, it was really well done.
51:20
SPEAKER_04: Uh focused a lot on um addiction, which is interesting.
51:24
SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
51:25
SPEAKER_04: Um because both Bill Kurtzman and the guy his son both went through rehab almost at the same time.
51:32
SPEAKER_00: Wow.
51:33
SPEAKER_04: For uh and he said you he he said you said you he you knew you had a drug problem when Jerry Garcia was heading up your drug intervention.
51:44
SPEAKER_04: Wow, it was like wow, yeah, yeah, that's crazy, man.
51:48
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, but it was it was really well done.
51:49
SPEAKER_04: And they talked to Chad Smith, he was featured in it.
51:52
SPEAKER_04: Yep.
51:53
SPEAKER_04: Um, you know, like I said, Taylor Hawkins.
51:56
SPEAKER_04: Um they talk about Keith Moon a lot and John Bonham.
52:01
SPEAKER_07: Right.
52:02
SPEAKER_04: And they talk to uh Jason a lot in this I can understand.
52:05
SPEAKER_04: He was and he was featured quite heavily in it.
52:07
SPEAKER_10: Yeah.
52:08
SPEAKER_04: And uh yeah, but it was but it is it was you know, as far as drum documentaries go, it was really interesting.
52:14
SPEAKER_04: The um uh Stephen Perkins, he he drums for Jane's Addiction.
52:19
SPEAKER_10: Yep, I know who it is.
52:20
SPEAKER_04: Um he oh uh Mandy Moon, uh Keith Moon's daughter.
52:26
SPEAKER_04: Okay, she was they talked to her quite a bit.
52:28
SPEAKER_04: She went to the Grammy Museum and got Keith Moon's drum set out of there and let Ste uh let Stephen Perkins and Stephen Adler play it.
52:39
SPEAKER_10: Wow.
52:39
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, I was like, wow, and they sound great.
52:42
SPEAKER_10: Is she a player or is she just no?
52:44
SPEAKER_04: No, she's just a she's just she's just a lady.
52:47
SPEAKER_04: Wow, she doesn't look anything like Keith.
52:49
SPEAKER_04: So you you would never know that it was his, you know, right that Keith was their dad.
52:54
SPEAKER_08: Right.
52:54
SPEAKER_04: But uh yeah, it was it was really well done.
52:56
SPEAKER_04: It was really interesting, really fascinating.
52:59
SPEAKER_04: So I was it especially with the two drummer concept, you know, in Grateful Dead.
53:04
SPEAKER_04: Yep.
53:05
SPEAKER_04: Very, very interesting because they both had very different styles.
53:09
unknown: Right.
53:09
SPEAKER_04: Mickey Hart and Bill Kurtzman.
53:11
SPEAKER_10: Um I've always wondered that.
53:13
SPEAKER_10: Like bands that have two drummers, like the Allman Brothers, you know, do they play the same thing?
53:18
SPEAKER_04: They're playing the same beat, but they're playing like one when one's like holding down the beat, the other one's doing, you know, like fill different fills, and then they switch off.
53:28
SPEAKER_04: But you you have to be so Connected.
53:32
SPEAKER_04: Connected, yeah, exactly.
53:33
SPEAKER_10: Yeah.
53:34
SPEAKER_04: And that's what Mickey was saying about Bill.
53:35
SPEAKER_04: He didn't even Bill.
53:36
SPEAKER_04: He said one dude, they were playing drums on Bill's wedding night.
53:44
SPEAKER_10: Wow.
53:45
SPEAKER_04: That's all they did.
53:48
SPEAKER_04: Mickey was like, oh, at six o'clock in the morning, you should go spend some time with your new wife.
53:52
SPEAKER_04: Because they've been playing drums all night.
53:55
SPEAKER_10: It was really interesting.
53:58
SPEAKER_10: I would assume that there were some some drugs involved in this.
54:01
SPEAKER_10: Oh yes.
54:01
SPEAKER_10: Yes, yeah.
54:02
SPEAKER_04: Oh yeah.
54:03
SPEAKER_04: Mickey Hart's kind of a weird guy.
54:05
SPEAKER_10: Yeah.
54:06
SPEAKER_04: But he did, he he had some like interesting as he's like, you know, because oh when Matt Sorum was uh featured in this, which was really interesting because he looks really bad.
54:14
SPEAKER_10: Does he?
54:15
SPEAKER_04: I don't know.
54:15
SPEAKER_04: He just I always pictured him like more robust, but he just looks very gaunt.
54:20
SPEAKER_04: I don't know, I don't know.
54:21
SPEAKER_04: But but um but they both had some really interesting insights in drumming, yeah.
54:26
SPEAKER_04: Which I really latched into and I was like, wow, that's really cool.
54:29
SPEAKER_04: You know, like drumming is life, you know.
54:31
SPEAKER_04: Matt was talking about you know BPMs because it comes from your heartbeat.
54:35
SPEAKER_08: Right.
54:36
SPEAKER_04: You know, like slow BPM, like 60 BPM.
54:39
SPEAKER_04: That's a sad song.
54:40
SPEAKER_12: Beat per minute.
54:41
SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
54:41
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, yeah.
54:42
SPEAKER_04: That's a sad song.
54:43
SPEAKER_04: And then you you bump it up to 120.
54:45
SPEAKER_04: Oh, it's more happy.
54:46
SPEAKER_04: And then if you really want to get into really you want to be excited, you know, you're gonna bump it up, you know.
54:51
SPEAKER_04: It was it was, you know, they both had interest.
54:53
SPEAKER_04: Mickey was more like, oh yeah, you're a drummer is a conduit for the the rhythm that comes from the cosmos.
54:59
SPEAKER_04: I'm like, okay.
55:00
SPEAKER_10: All right, you know, you know, Mickey Hart.
55:02
SPEAKER_10: And the aliens built the pillars.
55:04
SPEAKER_10: Okay.
55:04
SPEAKER_10: Well, you know, we talk about how much we love Sammy Hagar.
55:07
SPEAKER_10: He's into all that stuff too.
55:08
SPEAKER_10: Astrology and he and Mickey Hart are really good buddies.
55:13
SPEAKER_04: But it you know, but they've had some interesting insights into drumming, and yeah, I really enjoyed it.
55:17
SPEAKER_09: Yeah.
55:18
SPEAKER_09: So cool.
55:20
SPEAKER_09: Uh what's it called again?
55:22
SPEAKER_04: Let there be drums.
55:23
SPEAKER_06: Let there be drums.
55:24
SPEAKER_04: They actually talked to Sandy Nelson.
55:26
SPEAKER_04: He's it was really sad because his career was cut short.
55:29
SPEAKER_04: He was in a motorcycle accident, he lost his right leg.
55:32
SPEAKER_08: Oh wow.
55:32
SPEAKER_04: You know, so uh but he can still play drum.
55:34
SPEAKER_04: He's like he sits in a wheelchair and he's like he's gotta be in his 90s now.
55:38
SPEAKER_04: Right.
55:38
SPEAKER_04: You know, and he's he can still drum.
55:40
SPEAKER_10: So do any of those movies, uh those documentaries, ever mention Rick Allen?
55:45
SPEAKER_09: Nope.
55:46
SPEAKER_09: No, no Rick Allen.
55:47
SPEAKER_10: You know, Rick Allen was a great drummer before he lost his arm.
55:52
SPEAKER_10: Uh I just think this is from Def Leppard, obviously, um, for people that don't know.
55:57
SPEAKER_10: Um, but I just think the way he developed that style that he has out of necessity, really.
56:06
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, you know, proves that he's a somebody should make a document about him.
56:10
SPEAKER_10: I'm surprised that they have.
56:11
SPEAKER_10: I know they've done the Def Leppard documentary.
56:12
SPEAKER_10: Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
56:13
SPEAKER_04: But they should make just about right.
56:15
SPEAKER_10: I would think so.
56:16
SPEAKER_10: Yeah.
56:16
SPEAKER_10: And and maybe the maybe like how the the mechanism that he uses came together.
56:21
SPEAKER_10: Yeah, I don't know.
56:22
SPEAKER_10: That would be interesting.
56:22
SPEAKER_10: I'd like to see that.
56:23
SPEAKER_10: That would be interesting.
56:24
SPEAKER_10: That would be interesting to see.
56:25
SPEAKER_09: Yeah.
56:25
SPEAKER_09: Anyway, let's go here.
56:30
SPEAKER_12: I don't have any books.
56:31
SPEAKER_09: Yes, you do.
56:32
SPEAKER_09: They're over there.
56:33
SPEAKER_09: Where?
56:34
SPEAKER_09: They're over there on the on the side there.
56:36
SPEAKER_09: Um where you put them.
56:38
SPEAKER_00: Oh yeah.
56:41
SPEAKER_09: I think it squirreled them away.
56:44
SPEAKER_09: Okay, so what did we leave off on?
56:47
SPEAKER_09: Uh we must be on G.
56:50
SPEAKER_09: Because that was that.
56:51
SPEAKER_09: Or F.
56:52
SPEAKER_09: Oh, yeah.
56:52
SPEAKER_10: We're on F.
56:53
SPEAKER_10: No, no, because we no.
56:54
SPEAKER_09: No, we or we're on G.
56:55
SPEAKER_10: We're on G.
56:56
SPEAKER_10: Yep, we're on G.
56:58
SPEAKER_10: Okay, so I am reading from the Country Legends Alphabet book by Beckfinder, or Becky, as we as we've been taking to calling it.
57:07
SPEAKER_10: Yes.
57:08
SPEAKER_10: So, uh, and you are reading from the Beatles Legends alphabet.
57:12
SPEAKER_10: So we'll start with Country.
57:14
SPEAKER_10: This happens to be, and it's G, happens to be one of my favorite all-time artists.
57:22
SPEAKER_10: George Strait.
57:23
SPEAKER_10: It is George Strait.
57:25
SPEAKER_10: All right.
57:26
SPEAKER_10: G is for George Strait.
57:27
SPEAKER_10: This king of country and former army recruit was initially turned down by every major record label in America.
57:35
SPEAKER_10: But he kept at it and earned 38 gold records and 60 number one hits, proving he really is pure country.
57:44
SPEAKER_10: That's kind of lame.
57:45
SPEAKER_04: The last line is lame, but the rest of it?
57:47
SPEAKER_10: The rest of it was cool.
57:48
SPEAKER_04: Very good.
57:49
SPEAKER_10: Yep.
57:49
SPEAKER_10: Yes.
57:49
SPEAKER_10: Yep.
57:50
SPEAKER_10: And he's uh he's in a place right now where he's retired from the road, but he does a show here and there.
57:57
SPEAKER_04: Dude, he he could just like show up someplace and make a million dollars.
58:03
SPEAKER_04: Because so many people would go to that show.
58:05
SPEAKER_10: Well, you know who he's got lined up, like to to be with him?
58:09
SPEAKER_10: Chris Stapleton and Little Big Town.
58:11
SPEAKER_10: Oh, yeah.
58:12
SPEAKER_10: Come on.
58:13
SPEAKER_10: Obviously, you're gonna go to that show.
58:15
SPEAKER_10: Yeah.
58:16
SPEAKER_10: Um, and I will and I I'll go on record to say, because I've I've been a George Strait fan for a long time.
58:20
SPEAKER_10: I love George Strait, dude.
58:22
SPEAKER_10: Um his old stuff is great.
58:25
SPEAKER_10: I think after he retired, he put out this album called Honky Tonk Time Machine.
58:31
SPEAKER_10: No, wait.
58:32
SPEAKER_10: Is it Honky Tonk Time Machine?
58:34
SPEAKER_10: That's not what it's called.
58:36
SPEAKER_10: Uh the last album that he put out, like the last full album that he put out, is his best album, in my opinion.
58:42
SPEAKER_08: Okay.
58:42
SPEAKER_10: Uh it it really is.
58:44
SPEAKER_10: It has a lot of I want to tell you the name of it before I do anything because uh I have almost every George Strait album, so it's gonna take me a spin second to Oh, no, it is Honky Tongue Time Machine.
58:57
SPEAKER_10: Oh, there you go.
58:58
SPEAKER_10: Came out in 2019.
59:00
SPEAKER_10: Um and he actually uh I know we're talking a lot about George Strait, but he actually didn't write a lot of his songs until recently.
59:12
SPEAKER_10: He sat down with Dean Dillon and his son Bubba.
59:15
SPEAKER_10: Yes, his son's name is Bubba.
59:17
SPEAKER_10: Uh Bubba Strait.
59:21
SPEAKER_04: I'm sorry about that's funny.
59:23
SPEAKER_10: Actually, I don't know if that's his real name, but he goes by Bubba Strait.
59:27
SPEAKER_08: Okay, that works.
59:28
SPEAKER_10: Um But I think the last maybe the last five to ten years of his recording career, he wrote or co-wrote a lot of the songs, and this album, Honky Tonk Time Machine, which again was in 2019, he wrote or co-wrote all the songs with well not all of them, the majority of the songs with Dean Dillon and his son.
59:51
SPEAKER_10: Oh and they're awesome.
59:52
SPEAKER_10: They're really, really course if you're writing with Dean Dillon, who wrote pretty much all of George Street's hits, um, then you you're kind of a it's kind of a given that it's gonna be a good album.
1:00:04
SPEAKER_10: I really think honky tongue time machine is his best album, but but that's you know, that's just my perspecti perspective.
1:00:10
SPEAKER_04: That's your opinion.
1:00:11
SPEAKER_04: Let's do the Beatles.
1:00:15
SPEAKER_04: Here we go.
1:00:17
SPEAKER_04: G is for get back.
1:00:21
SPEAKER_04: Oozing cool.
1:00:23
SPEAKER_04: This is a rambling blues tune about a loner named Jojo who hits the road for California.
1:00:31
SPEAKER_04: And sweet Loretta Martin, who's living her best life.
1:00:35
SPEAKER_04: With its driving beat and sense of freedom, it's best listened to Cruising the Freeway with the windows down and the speakers turned up.
1:00:44
SPEAKER_07: That was pretty good.
1:00:45
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, it's not bad.
1:00:46
SPEAKER_03: But the illustration's terrible.
1:00:47
SPEAKER_03: Oh my goodness.
1:00:48
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, that sucks.
1:00:50
SPEAKER_03: Come on, Becky.
1:00:51
SPEAKER_11: I could do better than that.
1:00:54
SPEAKER_10: Well, there you have it.
1:00:56
SPEAKER_10: Uh the letter of the day is G.
1:01:00
SPEAKER_10: Uh, so we are going to uh do these live or no?
1:01:06
SPEAKER_04: You want to yes?
1:01:07
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, why not?
1:01:08
SPEAKER_04: Let's do it.
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SPEAKER_10: Alright.
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SPEAKER_10: I have an album from The Wall of Tunes.
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SPEAKER_10: So let the guessing begin.
1:04:59
SPEAKER_04: Alright.
1:04:59
SPEAKER_04: Is it a show do or is it a band?
1:05:02
SPEAKER_10: Solo.
1:05:02
SPEAKER_04: Show low.
1:05:03
SPEAKER_04: Oh.
1:05:04
SPEAKER_04: Is it a man or a woman?
1:05:06
SPEAKER_10: A man.
1:05:07
SPEAKER_04: A man.
1:05:10
SPEAKER_04: Is that a manly man?
1:05:14
SPEAKER_03: Um.
1:05:16
SPEAKER_04: Yeah?
1:05:17
SPEAKER_04: I guess.
1:05:18
SPEAKER_04: I don't know.
1:05:20
SPEAKER_04: Uh some reason the lumberjack song just popped in my head.
1:05:26
SPEAKER_11: By Jackal?
1:05:28
SPEAKER_04: No.
1:05:29
SPEAKER_04: Monty Python.
1:05:30
SPEAKER_02: Oh.
1:05:31
SPEAKER_02: Monty Python.
1:05:32
SPEAKER_04: I don't know why.
1:05:33
SPEAKER_04: Anyway.
1:05:33
SPEAKER_04: Okay.
1:05:34
SPEAKER_04: So it's a guy.
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SPEAKER_04: Uh what genre?
1:05:38
SPEAKER_04: Um pop rock.
1:05:39
SPEAKER_04: Pop rock.
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SPEAKER_04: Okay.
1:05:40
SPEAKER_04: Uh height of popularity.
1:05:43
SPEAKER_10: I would say I would say the 80s.
1:05:47
SPEAKER_10: 80s?
1:05:47
SPEAKER_10: Okay.
1:05:48
SPEAKER_04: Is it Prince?
1:05:49
SPEAKER_10: Nope.
1:05:52
SPEAKER_04: Is he does he have two names or one?
1:05:55
SPEAKER_10: He has a first and last name.
1:05:57
SPEAKER_04: Okay.
1:05:57
SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
1:05:57
SPEAKER_04: He goes by that?
1:05:58
SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
1:05:58
SPEAKER_04: Okay.
1:05:58
SPEAKER_04: Is it real?
1:06:00
SPEAKER_10: I think so.
1:06:01
SPEAKER_04: Okay.
1:06:04
SPEAKER_04: Richard Marks.
1:06:06
SPEAKER_00: Nope.
1:06:08
SPEAKER_10: Is it uh I'll g ye I'll give you a small hint.
1:06:14
SPEAKER_10: Okay.
1:06:15
SPEAKER_10: Um his his uh like you said, his what did you call it?
1:06:21
SPEAKER_10: His the eighties were his I can't remember what you call it.
1:06:26
SPEAKER_10: Popularity, height of popularity.
1:06:28
SPEAKER_10: Height of popularity.
1:06:29
SPEAKER_10: Uh this album that I chose comes from 1971.
1:06:34
SPEAKER_04: But he was popular in the 80s.
1:06:36
SPEAKER_10: Yeah.
1:06:38
SPEAKER_10: He was popular in the 70s as well, but this is from 1971.
1:06:42
SPEAKER_04: Okay.
1:06:44
SPEAKER_04: Interesting.
1:06:46
SPEAKER_04: Is it Isaac Hayes?
1:06:47
SPEAKER_10: Nope.
1:06:49
SPEAKER_10: He used to sing for a heavy metal band.
1:06:54
SPEAKER_10: Pat Boone.
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SPEAKER_10: In the 60s called Attila.
1:07:00
SPEAKER_08: Attila.
1:07:01
SPEAKER_04: Not Pat Boone?
1:07:02
SPEAKER_10: Nope.
1:07:07
SPEAKER_04: Attila.
1:07:08
SPEAKER_04: Heavy metal in the 60s?
1:07:10
SPEAKER_10: Yeah.
1:07:10
SPEAKER_10: Like hard like like very uh harbor plant?
1:07:14
SPEAKER_10: I wouldn't say heavy metal.
1:07:15
SPEAKER_10: Maybe it was like cream, you know.
1:07:18
SPEAKER_04: Is it David Coverdale?
1:07:20
SPEAKER_10: No.
1:07:25
SPEAKER_04: Does he have iconic songs?
1:07:26
SPEAKER_10: Oh yes.
1:07:29
SPEAKER_04: Elton John.
1:07:30
SPEAKER_10: You're not far off.
1:07:32
SPEAKER_04: Really?
1:07:32
SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
1:07:32
SPEAKER_04: Does he play piano?
1:07:33
SPEAKER_10: Yes.
1:07:35
SPEAKER_04: Jerry Lee Lewis.
1:07:37
SPEAKER_04: No.
1:07:39
SPEAKER_10: Come on.
1:07:40
SPEAKER_10: I just gave you a really big hint.
1:07:42
SPEAKER_04: Elton John is the is the hint.
1:07:44
SPEAKER_10: Yeah.
1:07:45
SPEAKER_10: You're very close.
1:07:46
SPEAKER_04: Delton John.
1:07:47
SPEAKER_10: Yeah.
1:07:48
SPEAKER_10: They went on tour together.
1:07:50
SPEAKER_04: Eminem?
1:07:51
SPEAKER_10: No.
1:07:52
SPEAKER_04: They went on tour together.
1:07:54
SPEAKER_10: He plays piano.
1:07:59
SPEAKER_04: And he's a man.
1:08:04
SPEAKER_04: Oh, that's helpful.
1:08:05
SPEAKER_04: I think we established that already.
1:08:07
SPEAKER_12: Plays piano.
1:08:08
SPEAKER_04: Oh, it's Billy.
1:08:09
SPEAKER_04: It's Billy Joel.
1:08:12
SPEAKER_04: I like how you had to spell it out for me.
1:08:15
SPEAKER_04: Dad Joe.
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SPEAKER_04: He plays piano, and he's the man.
1:08:18
SPEAKER_04: And he's a man.
1:08:19
SPEAKER_04: Piano and man.
1:08:20
SPEAKER_04: Piano and man.
1:08:22
SPEAKER_04: Piano man.
1:08:23
SPEAKER_04: I don't know who it is.
1:08:25
SPEAKER_04: Could you make it clearer?
1:08:27
SPEAKER_10: So this is Billy Joel's very first album.
1:08:32
SPEAKER_04: I can tell because that is a horrible haircut.
1:08:36
SPEAKER_10: And this is a mustache.
1:08:38
SPEAKER_10: This is a sore spot for Billy Joel.
1:08:41
SPEAKER_10: Really?
1:08:41
SPEAKER_10: Yes.
1:08:42
SPEAKER_10: Because he signed a terrible deal for this era of his career.
1:08:48
SPEAKER_10: Again, this was from 1971.
1:08:51
SPEAKER_10: Um and the Masters for this album.
1:08:54
SPEAKER_10: This is called Cold Spring Harbor.
1:08:56
SPEAKER_10: Okay?
1:08:56
SPEAKER_10: It's his very first album on Columbia Records.
1:08:59
SPEAKER_10: Um and the Master was sped up.
1:09:05
SPEAKER_10: Really?
1:09:06
SPEAKER_10: Yes.
1:09:07
SPEAKER_10: So well let me just let me just uh let me just play.
1:09:16
SPEAKER_10: Well this is probably the only song on here that you know because it was re-released on uh the Greatest Hits Volume 1 and Volume 2 as a live song.
1:09:26
SPEAKER_10: Okay.
1:09:26
SPEAKER_10: But this is the original uh of this.
1:09:33
SPEAKER_04: Oh, she's got a way.
1:09:35
SPEAKER_08: Yeah.
1:09:37
SPEAKER_05: She's got a way about her.
1:09:40
SPEAKER_08: Yeah, you can hear it.
1:09:41
SPEAKER_08: You can, yeah.
1:09:41
SPEAKER_08: I mean, his voice is higher.
1:09:43
SPEAKER_08: Higher.
1:09:44
SPEAKER_08: Yeah.
1:09:44
SPEAKER_08: And it's a little faster.
1:09:45
SPEAKER_05: I know that I can't live without her.
1:09:48
SPEAKER_04: Just a tad faster.
1:09:50
SPEAKER_05: She's got a way of pleasing.
1:09:52
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, it doesn't even sound like him, right?
1:09:55
SPEAKER_05: I don't know what it is, but there doesn't have to be a reason.
1:10:01
SPEAKER_10: It really doesn't sound like him, does it?
1:10:03
SPEAKER_04: No, it doesn't.
1:10:03
SPEAKER_04: It sounds like somebody else.
1:10:05
SPEAKER_10: Given though, Billy Joel has several different voices.
1:10:09
SPEAKER_10: Yeah.
1:10:09
SPEAKER_10: You know, he's got that bluesy voice.
1:10:11
SPEAKER_10: Yeah.
1:10:12
SPEAKER_10: Uh he's got a rock voice, uh, but he's also got a tender, tender voice and uh like a Frankie Valley type voice.
1:10:19
SPEAKER_10: Yeah, he can do it all, but he really can.
1:10:20
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, he's yeah, he's like the Swiss Army knife of voices.
1:10:30
SPEAKER_10: So this sounds like it comes from 1971.
1:10:33
SPEAKER_05: I mean it's you can make me free, you can make me smile, you can make me be like a little child who can melt the ice that chills my body.
1:10:50
SPEAKER_05: You can try my every tear, you can make the lonely hour.
1:10:55
SPEAKER_04: You know, if you if you weren't paying attention, you'd swear it was McCartney.
1:11:00
SPEAKER_10: Yeah.
1:11:01
SPEAKER_10: Well, there's a big Beatles influence.
1:11:03
SPEAKER_04: I mean, I I know he was a huge Beatles fan.
1:11:05
SPEAKER_10: So let me show you this.
1:11:08
SPEAKER_10: This is called Why Judy Y.
1:11:12
SPEAKER_05: Of all the people in the world that I know.
1:11:17
SPEAKER_05: You're the best place to go.
1:11:21
SPEAKER_05: Right when I cry, when I cry.
1:11:25
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, Paul could have wrote that.
1:11:26
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, yeah.
1:11:29
SPEAKER_05: I never asked for much before.
1:11:32
SPEAKER_05: Not before.
1:11:34
SPEAKER_05: Things are changed.
1:11:36
SPEAKER_05: I need more.
1:11:38
SPEAKER_05: Tell me why.
1:11:41
SPEAKER_05: Judy Why.
1:11:44
SPEAKER_04: I've heard this song before.
1:11:45
SPEAKER_04: Have you?
1:11:46
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, and I think I didn't realize it was Billy Joel.
1:11:48
SPEAKER_10: Because it doesn't sound like that.
1:11:49
SPEAKER_10: Doesn't sound like that.
1:11:50
SPEAKER_10: I mean it does too, it does a little bit, but not really.
1:11:53
SPEAKER_05: I never thought that she would say.
1:11:55
SPEAKER_10: Here's one here's one that he has played in concert before.
1:11:59
SPEAKER_10: This is called Everybody Loves You Now.
1:12:02
SPEAKER_05: Maybe all the lights turn on you.
1:12:05
SPEAKER_05: I'm in the center of the face.
1:12:09
SPEAKER_08: And this sounds like closer, right now.
1:12:12
SPEAKER_05: You are in the plant of company.
1:12:46
SPEAKER_10: But he had it back in 71, man.
1:12:48
SPEAKER_10: Oh yeah, yeah, you can tell.
1:12:49
SPEAKER_10: Oh yeah.
1:12:50
SPEAKER_10: This one is called Tomorrow Is Today.
1:12:58
SPEAKER_10: That's very believable.
1:13:00
SPEAKER_04: I I like the way the piano was recorded on this album though.
1:13:03
SPEAKER_10: Yeah.
1:13:03
SPEAKER_04: I don't know why.
1:13:05
SPEAKER_04: Just it's something very crisp.
1:13:08
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, yeah.
1:13:10
SPEAKER_04: It's like you're almost in the same room.
1:13:12
SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
1:13:17
SPEAKER_05: I've been living for the moment, but I just can't have my way.
1:13:28
SPEAKER_05: And I'm afraid to go to sleep, cause tomorrow is today.
1:13:39
SPEAKER_10: So when I first got this, there's a song on here that I learned, and this is a uh life is the first indication that Billy Joel was really into classical music.
1:13:47
SPEAKER_10: There's a song on here, there's an instrumental called Nocturne.
1:13:50
SPEAKER_04: Okay.
1:14:26
SPEAKER_04: I've never heard this before.
1:14:28
SPEAKER_10: Yeah.
1:14:28
SPEAKER_10: Uh when I yeah, when I first got this album, that's the first thing I learned was this was this piece.
1:14:33
SPEAKER_10: I can't play it now, but uh I've always loved it.
1:14:36
SPEAKER_10: I always loved it.
1:14:37
SPEAKER_10: And I've always loved this album.
1:14:38
SPEAKER_10: I mean it's It gets a bad rap.
1:14:41
SPEAKER_03: It's called Cold Spring Harbor.
1:14:42
SPEAKER_03: Cold Spring Harbor.
1:14:43
SPEAKER_10: It gets a bad rap because of the the whole history around it.
1:14:47
SPEAKER_10: You know.
1:14:47
SPEAKER_10: Um he lost a lot of money, I think.
1:14:50
SPEAKER_10: Um he signed a bad bad deal, bad publishing deal.
1:14:53
SPEAKER_04: You seemed to have a history of that.
1:14:55
SPEAKER_10: Yeah, yeah.
1:14:56
SPEAKER_10: Not a very good businessman.
1:14:58
SPEAKER_10: For sure.
1:14:59
SPEAKER_10: But that's it.
1:15:00
SPEAKER_10: That's uh that's the album of the week.
1:15:02
SPEAKER_10: Uh that is uh Cold Spring Harbor from the legendary piano man, Billy Joel.
1:15:08
SPEAKER_10: Um you asked me, you said, does he use his real name?
1:15:12
SPEAKER_10: Yeah, Billy Joel.
1:15:14
SPEAKER_10: Yeah.
1:15:15
SPEAKER_10: I remember the story of the piano man.
1:15:20
SPEAKER_10: And this is why I hesitated when I answered that.
1:15:24
SPEAKER_10: And the story of the piano man, like I think it must have been his behind the music or something that I saw.
1:15:29
SPEAKER_10: He said, so he was how he was waiting out uh a a record um, you know, the record label wanted him to do something and and he it was a bad deal, and so he waited it out.
1:15:41
SPEAKER_10: So he went to Los Angeles and played in a piano bar.
1:15:46
SPEAKER_10: And he said, if I'm not mistaken, I went under my real name, which is Bill Martin.
1:15:57
SPEAKER_10: Either he said my real name or my middle name, Bill Martin Joel.
1:16:02
SPEAKER_10: Billy Joel Martin.
1:16:03
SPEAKER_03: You know what?
1:16:04
SPEAKER_03: Billy Joel Martin sounds better.
1:16:05
SPEAKER_10: Let me just uh let's let's let's see what it is.
1:16:08
SPEAKER_10: What uh you know the whole the good Wik Wikipedia will tell us.
1:16:12
SPEAKER_10: Ah, they never lie to us.
1:16:13
SPEAKER_10: Because that's you know William Martin Joel.
1:16:17
SPEAKER_10: Oh really?
1:16:17
SPEAKER_10: So he used his middle name.
1:16:19
SPEAKER_10: So Bill Martin is what he went by.
1:16:21
SPEAKER_10: Interesting.
1:16:22
SPEAKER_10: As uh when he I would assumed it was Billy William Joel Martin.
1:16:28
SPEAKER_04: Right.
1:16:28
SPEAKER_04: That sounds more.
1:16:29
SPEAKER_10: Joel doesn't sound like a last name.
1:16:30
SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
1:16:30
SPEAKER_10: Yeah.
1:16:31
SPEAKER_10: Um but anyway, uh still selling out Madison Square Garden to this day.
1:16:36
SPEAKER_04: Oh, he could sell out any place.
1:16:38
SPEAKER_10: Uh he's one of my absolute favorite artists uh of all time.
1:16:41
SPEAKER_10: I love Billy Joel.
1:16:42
SPEAKER_10: I really do too.
1:16:43
SPEAKER_10: Because I mean there's so much there.
1:16:45
SPEAKER_08: Yeah.
1:16:45
SPEAKER_10: The rock, pop, classical, uh country.
1:16:49
SPEAKER_10: Yeah, he can do it all, man.
1:16:51
SPEAKER_10: He can do it all.
1:16:52
SPEAKER_10: He can do it all.
1:16:52
SPEAKER_10: Yep.
1:16:53
SPEAKER_04: Well, I think my two favorite songs are Scenes from an Italian restaurant.
1:16:56
SPEAKER_04: Oh yes.
1:16:57
SPEAKER_04: And Goodnight Saigon.
1:16:58
SPEAKER_10: Oh yeah.
1:16:59
SPEAKER_10: Good night.
1:17:00
SPEAKER_10: Good night Saigon is just that's an amazing.
1:17:02
SPEAKER_10: It's a masterpiece.
1:17:03
SPEAKER_10: Yeah, absolutely.
1:17:03
SPEAKER_10: It's a masterpiece.
1:17:04
SPEAKER_10: Yep.
1:17:05
SPEAKER_10: As is Scenes from an Italian you know, Scenes from an Italian restaurant.
1:17:08
SPEAKER_10: That's one thing I like about Billy Joel.
1:17:10
SPEAKER_10: That's another thing I like about Billy Joel is when he stopped like and I he maybe he he did it when he was still recording music as well.
1:17:18
SPEAKER_10: But when he stopped recording music, he went on this tour of universities and would just uh talk about his music and answer all these questions and give you like little insights into stuff.
1:17:27
SPEAKER_10: Scenes from an Italian restaurant is like four songs.
1:17:29
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, yeah.
1:17:30
SPEAKER_10: That he just put put it all together.
1:17:32
SPEAKER_10: Put them all together.
1:17:32
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, yeah.
1:17:33
SPEAKER_04: So great.
1:17:34
SPEAKER_10: Yeah, yeah, it's awesome.
1:17:35
SPEAKER_04: And you could tell too.
1:17:36
SPEAKER_04: It's kind of like uh Day in the Life.
1:17:37
SPEAKER_04: Right.
1:17:38
SPEAKER_04: Um from the Beatles, you know.
1:17:39
SPEAKER_04: They they took two songs.
1:17:40
SPEAKER_04: But it worked.
1:17:41
SPEAKER_04: And it worked out beautifully.
1:17:42
SPEAKER_09: Oh yeah.
1:17:43
SPEAKER_09: Yeah.
1:17:43
SPEAKER_04: Takes a musical genius to do stuff like that.
1:17:45
SPEAKER_09: And he was, is, is, is, we still have him, so that's we can't really, you know.
1:17:50
SPEAKER_10: He's gotta be up there.
1:17:51
SPEAKER_10: He's gotta be seven.
1:17:52
SPEAKER_10: I think he's seven.
1:17:53
SPEAKER_10: I think he's I just had it up.
1:17:55
SPEAKER_10: Hold on a second here.
1:17:56
SPEAKER_10: Um I think he must be he must be in the middle.
1:17:58
SPEAKER_10: He's gonna be in his seventies.
1:17:59
SPEAKER_10: At least seventy.
1:18:00
SPEAKER_10: Yeah, he's gotta be at least seventy.
1:18:02
SPEAKER_10: Let's see.
1:18:03
SPEAKER_10: What little told me about uh William Montreal.
1:18:08
SPEAKER_10: He is seventy-three.
1:18:13
SPEAKER_10: Two years younger than Sammy Hager.
1:18:16
SPEAKER_04: There you go.
1:18:19
SPEAKER_10: Good stuff, man.
1:18:20
SPEAKER_04: He had more wives than Sammy Hager, though.
1:18:22
SPEAKER_10: Uh yeah, Sammy has had two.
1:18:24
SPEAKER_10: Yeah.
1:18:25
SPEAKER_10: And Billy Jones had three?
1:18:30
SPEAKER_10: Three or three.
1:18:32
SPEAKER_04: The only one I remember is Christy Brinkley.
1:18:34
SPEAKER_10: That was his second.
1:18:35
SPEAKER_10: Yeah.
1:18:36
SPEAKER_10: And then he got married to uh a young woman named Katie, who is a TV cook.
1:18:44
SPEAKER_10: That was his third, and I think he's married again.
1:18:47
SPEAKER_10: So he's on his fourth.
1:18:49
SPEAKER_04: You gotta keep doing it until you get it right.
1:18:51
SPEAKER_10: Right.
1:18:51
SPEAKER_03: Apparently.
1:18:52
SPEAKER_03: Apparently.
1:18:52
SPEAKER_03: So I guess that's how it works.
1:18:54
SPEAKER_10: And that's what we're gonna do with this podcast, too.
1:18:56
SPEAKER_10: We're gonna keep doing it until we get it right.
1:18:58
SPEAKER_12: We're 128 episodes in, and nowhere near.
1:19:02
SPEAKER_12: Loud and lousy.
1:19:04
SPEAKER_12: Loud and lousy.
1:19:05
SPEAKER_04: That's what we are.
1:19:07
SPEAKER_04: That needs to be that needs to be a t-shirt.
1:19:09
SPEAKER_10: Yeah.
1:19:09
SPEAKER_10: Loud and lousy.
1:19:11
SPEAKER_10: Which is which.
1:19:15
SPEAKER_04: Ooh, I'm all lousy.
1:19:17
SPEAKER_10: Alright, so that's it.
1:19:19
SPEAKER_10: Uh I guess until next week.
1:19:20
SPEAKER_10: Oh, and don't forget, look for our uh link to the Toys for Tots for Tots campaign.
1:19:24
SPEAKER_10: Please donate if you in the next couple of weeks.
1:19:26
SPEAKER_10: We'd love to raise at least a hundred bucks for Toys for Tots, the uh the national uh Toys for Tots.
1:19:32
SPEAKER_10: Um right?
1:19:33
SPEAKER_04: No, it's it's local.
1:19:34
SPEAKER_10: Oh, it is local.
1:19:35
SPEAKER_10: Yeah.
1:19:35
SPEAKER_10: Oh, that's right.
1:19:36
SPEAKER_10: You told me.
1:19:37
SPEAKER_10: I can't remember the lady's name that was uh but yes, it is local.
1:19:40
SPEAKER_10: Okay, so we'll help you.
1:19:41
SPEAKER_04: It'll go in kids in the county.
1:19:42
SPEAKER_10: So there you go.
1:19:43
SPEAKER_10: Yeah.
1:19:43
SPEAKER_10: There you go.
1:19:44
SPEAKER_10: So uh look for that link, and uh we will talk to you again next week.
1:19:48
SPEAKER_10: Yes, yes.
1:19:50
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