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#39 - FIFA World Cup Drama: Red Cards, Ref Controversies & Keeper Heroes · Life According to Brian and Jason

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  All right, friends. Welcome to another episode of Life According
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  to Brian and Jason. Hey, Jason. It's another week.
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  What are we talking about? Dude, the FIFA World Cup's about ready to
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  end. Have you been watching? Yes, it sucked
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  me in time-wise. So yes, my past
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  podcast. Your evil plan worked. Your evil plan
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  worked. Listeners, listen to our earlier one to know what we're talking about. That's right.
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  But I think what the hook was, Jason, is,
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  you know, US men doing well. And then the red card came
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  out. Bam. You know, one of the best players.
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  Bam. Red card. And then behind the scenes,
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  Trump's making a phone call. You know, all of a sudden decisions are
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  being changed at the sporting level. And then what?
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  Belgium. Going crazy and protesting against,
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  you know, our best players going to be able to play. I got sucked
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  in due to the controversies. I mean, drama, baby, right? Oh yeah.
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  Backlash over video, assistant referee
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  overreach, political messaging, like you said,
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  exorbitant ticket prices. I mean,
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  and now we got Argentina embroiled
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  in maybe some money stuff going on, right?
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  Whoa. But before all that hit, I want to say, uh, what I've really
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  been liking is the keeper play this, uh,
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  cup. I mean, by no way, and I will say this right now, I am
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  not a soccer person or football person. I mean, I watch
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  like here, I watch a little MLS, see a little bit of the Rapids,
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  but I don't know, right, any of the political stuff really. But,
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  um, there's just stuff going on behind it. Um, but man, the But
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  little I know, the keepers have just been very fun to watch. I'm always watching
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  them when I'm watching the TV. My eyes are just on them when they're
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  about ready to hit. We've had some great play. Some great play, right?
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  Yeah, right. Yeah. I just, I just feel
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  it's like the season of The Bachelor, you know? So now I would
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  have to say I watch out of one eye when,
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  you know, Tanis is watching those shows. And guess what? It's all drama.
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  You know, it's like the setup, the tension of the 2 teams.
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  And then you're right. All of a sudden the goalkeepers are just
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  spot on, especially the guy from Cape Verde, the 40-year-old
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  guy who lives on a small island off the coast of Africa,
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  whose population of that country is similar
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  to Wyoming. And the guy shows up on a world stage, 40 years old,
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  electrician by day. And he's knocking down shots
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  from Messi. I mean, come on. Oh yeah, crushing it. Yeah, just crushing it.
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  They still lose, but the point is,
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  is the drama's half the attraction to the sport is
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  what surrounds it. And I have to say, me not
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  knowing much about soccer, you know, the offside rule drives
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  me crazy. That's another segment we can talk about. But it
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  seems like here in our sports world, In the NFL,
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  NBA, there's a little favoritism going on. What do you think, Jason?
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  Oh yeah. Well, they want to see the stars go. Like Norway was
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  very fun to watch, man. That Holland guy is just shoving people down like
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  babies. Just like, it's like he's, he's out there playing rec sports
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  and he's just crushing it. He's like a linebacker. He's like that
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  6th grader who just grew up really big and he's just crushing all the
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  other 6th grade kids are just like, eh. You know,
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  the game is shut. I know those kids. I know I dealt with those
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  kids my whole career. Okay. You're a foot taller than everybody else.
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  You need to— Yes. Little going out there slower.
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  The physicality of a lot of the players, like when they're trying
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  to make sure a ball goes out or they're trying to get the ball,
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  like especially lately, people are gripping and just throwing hands
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  on people. Right. You know, that has been Very interesting.
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  And just the inconsistency of just what are we calling here? Right. You know,
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  I'm like, what? And, you know, but I will say England, man,
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  their, their keeper on fire. I know all these other guys are helping
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  them too, but that keeper kept them in that game on Mexico. But,
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  you know, I guess there's allegations of, you know, oh, we're not calling this,
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  we're not calling that. Right. Well, you, you had 2 spots through our
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  texting. You were, you're a little bummed about, uh, Morocco getting
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  hosed, you thought. And, uh, you know, they played a tough game. And,
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  you know, I don't remember all the circumstances. You're like, ah, Morocco should have won.
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  But, and then the other one was when the United States did play
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  Belgium, you thought the officiating was a little weak, just kind
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  of letting them play. I thought they were just going to play. It was actually
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  the Egypt game. Oh, the Egypt game. That's right. Yeah, the Egypt game.
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  You're like, what? I think with all the controversy, they're like,
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  hey man, I mean, I know nothing. It just really seemed Like everyone gets
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  hydration breaks. So at the end of the match, everyone usually gets 6 to 8
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  minutes extra. And boy, they, they gave 4 for that game.
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  That was crazy. And then also just letting them
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  play, man. They just didn't want to give any kind of— no calls. They're going
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  to change it up. Right. Um, which, you know, they can do what they're doing.
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  It just seems like they're in the news for stuff they shouldn't be in.
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  I mean, there's always going to be some of this, Brian. There always is for
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  other sports. But man, it seems like the kind of publicity
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  you don't really want. Right now there's this money kickbacks
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  from FIFA and Argentina. I don't really—
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  I know nothing about that. What's that? Yeah. Money was deposited
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  and after a win, money was sent. That's all I'll say. Allegations are
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  here and there. You know, the FIFA president looking
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  really nervous. You must be reading the back page of the paper. Whenever.
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  Well, you know, I check, I'm checking stuff out. I'm like, what?
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  You know, there's allegations of
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  this, that, and the other thing, you know, the French ref and the, you know,
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  just getting right Egypt game, you know, it's just like, ooh, right.
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  It's just getting ugly. And FIFA has been embroiled
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  in controversy before this. There were a lot of bribery allegations,
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  obvious favoritism on where stuff gets You know, where we play and
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  stuff like that. But really with all sports, Brian, you know, in the NBA people
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  get favored treatment. I mean, hello, Nikola Jokic had
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  to earn being able to get fouls at the end like LeBron,
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  you know? Right. So there's really nothing, you know, it's just
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  in this case soccer or football that it's happening and just a billion people
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  are watching rather than, you know, the millions in here.
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  That's what makes it even more, all the people. We talked about that in our
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  other podcast. You know, billions of people watch this. Doing it, right?
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  Right. Well, here's my take is I
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  think there's always, this could go 2 ways. So let me kind of try to
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  lay out my thinking here. It seems like younger, lesser known players
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  seem to really get the red cards. You never see the top
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  stars getting a red card for some reason. Kind of the same
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  goes, it's kind of the Tom Brady effect in NFL. You know,
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  it's like things kind of swing towards the lesser players. And now
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  is that for 2 reasons? One, star power somehow
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  has a mental take on officiating?
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  Maybe, you know, they're like, oh, don't wanna
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  call that on Tom or Lionel, you know, too much.
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  Or do they just play at a different level where
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  they don't get the heavy penalties? So for example, I was watching Messi.
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  That guy does not high step. You know, a lot of the fouls
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  in soccer are dudes overstretching their legs, right?
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  Really high knees, stretch out the leg, and their cleat catches
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  the guy on the back of the leg or on the ankle. But if you
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  look at the really good players, they don't do that. They control their feet in
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  a different way. Like, I watched video review of Messi.
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  That guy is quick, but he takes short strides. He doesn't high step
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  or high kick people in those areas. I mean, he's a very clean player.
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  I have to say that. So, so there you go. That's what it— I think
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  in some ways the best of the best play an elite game that doesn't allow
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  them to have as many penalties. What do you think? Well, 2 things.
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  Yeah, there's a little something with Messi getting someone's calf with
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  his thing recently. But once again,
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  treatment, he knows how to play, he knows how to do it. And he's star
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  treatment, like we said before with other sports. Sure. And the other thing
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  you were talking about, I think I cannot confirm or deny
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  this, just like in hockey, I think in soccer there are people who
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  your job is to dysregulate everyone. Your job is to
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  be the hothead. Your job is to do the slide, to be
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  the momentum changers. You're good, but you're not
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  really as good as, you know, others. So you,
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  your job is to kind of enforce, push, shove, right? It's a different
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  job, right? Go after people a little bit. You know, if you do other stuff,
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  great. I think that happens. So yes. So I guess he doesn't
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  have to because if you're messing with him, right, he's got some players who are
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  going to go and, you know, push you around or, you know.
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  Right. You remember Kurt Rambis?
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  Kurt Rambis of the LA Lakers. He had the white tape
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  in the middle of his glasses. His job was to go in and throw elbows,
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  you know, just hit people. Right. That's how basketball
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  used to be. You got one guy just comes up and takes you out.
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  You know, so yeah. Now with all this though, all this stuff
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  going on, has it been enjoyable to you? Have you been watching a
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  few more matches than you would normally, or are you watching just for the drama?
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  Uh, it's like anything else. You spend time watching
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  it, you start to know. It's everything you said in our past podcast.
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  You start to know some players and you start to know
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  a few things about the game. And that's to me, how it
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  draws you in right there. So you start to care for some
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  of the teams and the players and, you know, the drama's gonna come anyway.
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  'Cause, you know, there's 80,000 people screaming and yelling and especially Norway
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  doing their little row chant. Very cool. Oh yeah, that was sick. That was good.
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  Yeah. So that was good. You're watching for that. You know, there's the sideshow
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  and then there's the show and the commentators all can take—
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  I don't, I don't enjoy any of the commentators, but as far as a great
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  sport of competition? Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's great.
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  Um, not that I grew up with it, but at the heart of
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  it, it is grit, and you appreciate their athletic ability,
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  and you know at the end someone's got to win, so that's fun, right?
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  And especially in this— well, these later, uh, matches, there has
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  to be some, you know, winner or loser. There has been several matches where a
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  goal is scored in extra time. Oh yeah, yeah. You know, that's like,
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  oh, but of course, secretly always wishing and hoping for
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  the penalty kick. Because I don't know, that's just sick and fun. Right?
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  Yeah, everyone likes, everyone likes penalty kicks. Come on.
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  I mean, you're counting it down. You're like,
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  oh, catch. If he misses this one, they win.
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  If he makes this one, we win. There's people who actually
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  go, no, I don't want it. Right? Like people who should. Nope,
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  I don't want it. No, I'm not taking it. They don't want a nation on
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  them. Right. Same. You know, there's been a couple young,
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  young, young players. I can't remember. There's an 18-year-old,
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  right? I can't remember what country he was from.
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  Yeah. Even their own country turns against them. Well, no,
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  they felt for him. Just he went in there and he did it.
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  Anyway, I'm going to not mess that up. But there's been a couple of players
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  who go in and go, okay, I'll do it. And You mess up,
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  you mess up. If you do it, you're like, yeah, hero. It's just a
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  fake out. You know, the goalkeeper just has to know which way to jump and
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  just go with it. Right. I find that fun, obviously.
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  But well, now they'd rather just keep playing, you know, until it
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  happens. You know, the sports betting and the social media has got to
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  be an extra burden the players carry. Just, you know,
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  these days, you know, like, hey, you missed the winning goal. I lost a
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  grand on you. You know, that kind of abuse. You know,
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  online game, right? Right. I don't know.
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  I think the keeper play has been pretty good, except unfortunately
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  our— come on, dude. He comes out, go for it,
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  kicks it, and they go around him. Yeah, anyway, that was an unfortunate— as
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  I'm standing here, I know, I know nothing. I, I get destroyed.
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  But right now, well, um, let's predict
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  some future drama. So, uh, we got Coming up
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  tomorrow on Tuesday, we have France versus Spain. France is
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  the heavy favorite, right? Spain's good too
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  though. Ooh. Right. Spain's good. Yeah. That's really the,
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  I think that's the game to really watch that could go either way. You know,
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  uh, the following day is England versus Argentina.
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  England's gonna have to play top tier in order to beat Argentina.
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  It's just, dude, they've been scrappy. They have been. They should.
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  Their defense against Mexico was incredible. I was like, oh my gosh,
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  down people and they're still doing it. I don't know.
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  Yeah. Messi's been showing a little bit of chinks in
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  the armor a couple of times. You know, he's got a— gets blocked
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  on a penalty kick and sure, you know, showing some kinks,
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  but still, you know, he still has to— he
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  still has 8 goals in the World Cup. Come on. He's tied.
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  That's insane. With Mbappé. Right, come on. So yeah, showing some chinks.
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  Sorry, you're not— Well, usually it'd be like totally like,
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  oh, we're toast. You know, he's going to kick this. And you know, usually his
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  team, he's good. He's still got some depth. And it's kind of like— His passes.
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  You can say what you want. His passing. And then he'll go,
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  ugh, when they can't fulfill what he makes a beautiful pass and you
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  can't Oh, he passes it between people's legs in the tightest little
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  space. Yeah, he just kind of looks up and goes, ugh. You know, it's like
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  Switzerland. Switzerland had them, what was it, 1-1, went into overtime.
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  And man, and they were a person down. They're playing
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  with 10, you know, and, and then Argentina
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  just destroys them at the end, puts up 2 goals in overtime. Done.
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  Yeah. So that's The minute you put, you take
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  your pedal, your foot off the gas with that team, they just put it on
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  you. So, so that's, that's the challenge for England. Can they
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  keep it full throttle for 90 plus and maybe 2,
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  2 overtime? I don't know. Okay. I'm going to, I'm going to say England in
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  the upset and I'm going to say Spain in the upset.
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  Spain in the upset. Wow.
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  You're going for, I'm going Yep. Okay. What about
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  you? Uh, I, I'm actually, I was going to
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  go with Spain over France only because I think there's going
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  to be some drama on the French team with some
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  penalties that'll take them down. That's my take. I think
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  Argentina is going to destroy England. I think it's going to be 3-1.
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  Spain's going to win 3-2. There we go.
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  That's my prediction. Uh, France. And Spain will go to a shootout
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  and the pressure will get them. Oh,
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  oh yeah. Spain will— that's my prediction there. But again,
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  I know nothing. I'm just saying.
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  Well, you sound like you know something. No, no. I just want
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  a fun game, a fun game of, you know,
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  some action. Right. And, um, you know, action looks different in soccer
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  or football there. So you jump, oh, look at that great— oh, look at that
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  great pass. Right. That's the right part. I know there's a lot,
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  there's a lot of lull time, kind of, kind of like baseball in some ways.
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  It's like, you kind of have to listen. Like if you look away, you have
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  to listen for the crowd because they're on it. They're on. If something's, someone kicks
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  out a ball and someone's running, you know, it's a long kick and
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  they come around the corner, the crowd lets you know you got to look up
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  at the TV and get back engaged. So yeah, it is kind
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  of like baseball in that you can't be kind of talking. Yeah. Because they'll do
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  a replay of it, but Right. I'll be doing this. The one minute you look
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  away, they score. Right. And then they're terrible at
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  the replays. I'm like, oh, I missed it. Give me some more. You know,
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  I'm putting a dish in the dishwasher and then I'm like waiting for 5 minutes
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  for them to show the replay. Like, come on. So yeah, that's my only take
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  on that. But well, dude, I got a weird sports story.
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  You ready for a weird sports story of the week? I do. And I think
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  I might have one too. Oh, nice. All right, I actually
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  found this. World Cup fans are obsessed
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  with ranch dressing is the headline. So apparently
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  this novelty or this dressing,
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  ranch dressing in America is foreign to foreigners,
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  if that sounds right. So I was talking to my brother, lives in
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  the Dallas area, and he said there was news traveling around down there that people
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  who flew in from other countries, especially Europeans, And all the restaurants,
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  man, they're ordering extra ranch. Give me extra ranch. They're going to grocery stores,
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  buying ranch by the bottles. And then when they're trying to get on the plane,
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  TSA agents are saying, hey, what's with the
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  ranch? Make sure that's sealed. They're chugging ranch dressing
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  in security lines at the airports, you know, 'cause it's open,
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  right? And so, yeah, who would've guessed? Can you imagine that?
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  Can you imagine? I cannot. I like ranch dressing, but my gosh.
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  I can just see people chugging it. Chugging ranch
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  dressing at the airport. I mean, you see it when people have like, you know,
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  a Red Bull, you know, I got a Gatorade or a water, they're just like,
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  yeah, you know, in the line and they throw it in the recycle bin
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  before they hit the, you know, the security.
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  And but I can't— I'm, I'm telling you, man, I'm flying in
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  a week. I'm watching for the ranch dressing though. I'm watching, I'm just saying.
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  But that's my weird sports story of the week connected to the World
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  Cup, man. Oh, I have a World Cup one too. It's not really a story
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  story, it's just an opinion. But we were watching the games, you know,
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  and every time they shoot off to a commercial
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  or want to go to the fans, there are only certain,
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  certain things they show. They show the beautiful people,
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  right? They show kids, right? They show upset people.
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  Uh-huh. And any of those people who are dressed up get honorable mention,
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  you get on there. But it's just so funny, like a lot of time,
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  beautiful person, beautiful, then they love the beautiful person upset, right? You know,
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  then they love the kid with all the stuff going, yay. And then the kid,
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  even more excited if something good, like they fix someone
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  and they'll do it again. And then of course the person who's all dressed up
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  in the paint and wearing the headgear,
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  wearing whatever they love to focus on. But what I've
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  noticed is they go to the same people sometimes. They,
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  it's like part of the story. It's part of the story, but it's just very
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  funny. Oh, there's a beautiful person. Yep. Right. It's like always,
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  it's never just random person, just a random thing in the crowd.
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  So when you're watching tomorrow's match, Brian, at 1 o'clock
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  Mountain Time, see what they do. What do
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  they— right. We just kind of look and go, wow, okay. Where are they panning?
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  Right. Yeah. I would say it tends more toward the
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  beautiful people. Right. Doing any of the things I just said. Upset,
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  painted. Right. You know, happy, sad, a little more beautiful people
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  than everyone else. Like funny, right? Okay. Yeah,
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  I know when England's playing, how many shots of David Beckham?
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  So looking all uncomfortable, stiff in a suit.
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  Yeah, right, right. Oh my dude, I, I say there's gonna
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  be 15 shots of David Beckham at least. Oh yeah. So it's
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  like, why? Why? You know, because that dude did not win the World Cup,
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  by the way, for England. England has not won a World
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  Cup since 1966. And so David was the promised
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  dude, you know, he was the guy. And what's funny is
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  every time I see him, I just remember his press conference where
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  he's crying because they lost, what, I don't know if they lost in the semis
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  or whatever that one year. And, uh, him just crying and apologizing
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  to England for losing. So that's
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  what I know of David Beckham, more so than being married to a Spice Girl.
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  So there you go. And I heard that Harry Kane tried
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  out to be James Bond. Made out of— what? Yes, he auditioned.
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  What? That's a weird sports story. Nice. I know that is. Well,
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  he's, you know, he looks dashing, right? And he's a
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  hero there. So definitely he's been crushing it.
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  He's, you know, he's not buying a drink anywhere, right? It's probably already
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  the case. But the fact that they're where they're at and if they get past
• 21:18
  Argentina. Hey, here's some ranch dressing. Here's some ranch
• 21:22
  dressing. There you go. I want to
• 21:26
  see David Beckham chug some Kraft Ranch.
• 21:29
  Chug, chug, chug, chug. There we
• 21:33
  go. There we go. Because, you know, the final is going to be in what,
• 21:37
  Kansas City, right? So, so maybe it's barbecue sauce.
• 21:40
  He has to chug barbecue sauce if they make it to the final. There we
• 21:44
  go. So David, if you're listening to this, the bet is on. Oh yeah,
• 21:47
  that's right.
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  I'm sure I'm, I'm actually, I'm wondering if there's gonna be a
• 21:54
  barbecue sauce thing too. Like, most people would love that
• 21:58
  too. Yeah, I know. I know. It's like, that's a totally American thing,
• 22:01
  especially in Kansas City. Barbecue only goes on certain things
• 22:05
  though. Ranch, right?
• 22:08
  Right. Well, you know, they made a
• 22:12
  big thing out of barbecue sauce in Ted Lasso,
• 22:16
  which is whole soccer, you know, TV series on Apple. True.
• 22:20
  Great. True. Season 4 coming out, by the way, buddy. So this summer.
• 22:24
  So it's about him in the States. So anyway,
• 22:28
  I like it. I can tell you didn't watch it. So there you go.
• 22:32
  We'll see. No, I've seen the show, but I haven't seen that. Okay.
• 22:35
  All right. So, well, those are cool. I like our little new segment
• 22:39
  there. Weekly Weird Sports Stories. Cool, buddy.
• 22:43
  Well, let's wrap this baby up. Got anything else? No.
• 22:46
  No. All right. Neither do I. Neither do I, friend. Well,
• 22:50
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• 22:54
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