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- 0:00Speaker 1: I am all in that I am all in with
- 0:18Speaker 1: Scott Patterson and I heart Radio podcast. Hey everybody, Scott Patterson,
- 0:22Speaker 1: I am all in. Podcast recap, Season four, episode sixteen,
- 0:27Speaker 1: The Reigning Laurel I and uh It originally aired March two.
- 0:34Speaker 1: I am a little under the weather. I apologize, but
- 0:36Speaker 1: I'm rallying and I have support from my awesome team
- 0:39Speaker 1: Danielle Romo, Tara sued Ami'll join us in a minute.
- 0:42Speaker 1: But um, hey, guys, how you doing. You're so dedicated
- 0:49Speaker 1: you I know you're sick, and you're just like, you
- 0:52Speaker 1: know what. I'm still gonna show up and I'm still
- 0:54Speaker 1: gonna watch an episode and we're gonna do. We're gonna
- 0:56Speaker 1: do the thing. I'll tell you, man, a little Nike. Well,
- 0:59Speaker 1: nice night's sleep right after this. I don't want to
- 1:02Speaker 1: do the day quill because it's like it's seven that
- 1:06Speaker 1: in you and I just like give my liver a
- 1:08Speaker 1: little bit of a rest. But I apologize for the
- 1:12Speaker 1: creepy deep voice, and I'm not mad at it. I
- 1:16Speaker 1: kind of like it. I can't really breathe right now,
- 1:20Speaker 1: so your breath or your mouth mouth, so anyway, Danielle,
- 1:28Speaker 1: take it away, synopsizing the way only you know how
- 1:31Speaker 1: to alright? Season four, episode sixteen, The Reigning Lorelai air
- 1:36Speaker 1: date March second, two thousand four. The unexpected death of
- 1:40Speaker 1: Grandma Tricks devastates Richard, plus a secret letter is unveiled
- 1:46Speaker 1: that sends Emily over the edge. Lorela is left to
- 1:49Speaker 1: finish planning the funeral while Rory writes the obituary for
- 1:53Speaker 1: her great grandmother. Man, what do you think of this episode? Oh?
- 2:00Speaker 1: I mean, we just see Emily and Richard just go downhill,
- 2:07Speaker 1: but at the end that there's hope. There is hope.
- 2:09Speaker 1: So I did love that. But I kind of liked
- 2:12Speaker 1: seeing their demise for an episode. Yeah, like they were
- 2:15Speaker 1: they were not Emily and Richard. Yeah, not at all,
- 2:20Speaker 1: like we've never seen them before. Um, did you remember
- 2:24Speaker 1: this episode, Scott? Did you remember this? No? Not at all, No,
- 2:29Speaker 1: not even a little bit. It was look who decided
- 2:32Speaker 1: to join us. I don't even want to talk about it.
- 2:35Speaker 1: Technology is so challenging. Did you have to move to
- 2:39Speaker 1: twenty different spots in your house too? Well? Yeah, I'm
- 2:45Speaker 1: not my mom's and I'm on the floor and then
- 2:48Speaker 1: the computer just crashes. But whatever, And I don't want
- 2:52Speaker 1: to be a buzz scale. But I did not love
- 2:54Speaker 1: this episode, did you, guys? I mean, it's not my
- 2:59Speaker 1: top but it it wasn't the worst. It was definitely
- 3:02Speaker 1: entertaining for me and not my top two. But I
- 3:05Speaker 1: did I did enjoy it. I enjoyed it too well. Yeah,
- 3:09Speaker 1: I mean it proves so it kind of it kind
- 3:12Speaker 1: of goes against my theory that, you know, just the
- 3:15Speaker 1: Gilmore stuff at the Gilmore House can can work as
- 3:18Speaker 1: a standalone series. No, I'm saying no. But if if
- 3:24Speaker 1: audiences had never experienced Stars Hollow before and this show
- 3:30Speaker 1: just came out, it was just like the four of
- 3:32Speaker 1: them and then Maids and Friends and things like that, um,
- 3:36Speaker 1: it probably could have stood alone, you know what I mean?
- 3:39Speaker 1: Those those four are dynamic and interesting enough. Um, and
- 3:43Speaker 1: obviously the writing team, you know, we didn't spend very
- 3:46Speaker 1: much time in Stars Hollow. I didn't spend very much
- 3:48Speaker 1: time at all with anybody else. It was. It was
- 3:50Speaker 1: a heavy, heavy, heavy Richard Emily episode, which is you know,
- 3:55Speaker 1: kind of great all on its own because it wasn't
- 3:57Speaker 1: look it was an easy episode. Not easy, but an
- 4:00Speaker 1: easier episode for Lauren and alexis because a lot of
- 4:05Speaker 1: the heavy lifting was being done by their parents, and
- 4:09Speaker 1: so the onus is on them, and and it's nice
- 4:13Speaker 1: to give Lauren and Alexis a little breather, you know
- 4:17Speaker 1: what I'm saying, because and I'm not saying that they
- 4:20Speaker 1: didn't have to be there all day every day, and
- 4:22Speaker 1: of course they did, but um, you know, emotional emotionally speaking,
- 4:27Speaker 1: it was on Richard and Emily and they hit it
- 4:29Speaker 1: out of the park and it was and it was
- 4:31Speaker 1: also for me. Yeah, well, I mean I think acting
- 4:35Speaker 1: wise great, Maybe I'm just like grouchy Party of One
- 4:43Speaker 1: like it was because it was sad. Maybe it was
- 4:47Speaker 1: because it was too sad for me, Yeah, that could
- 4:50Speaker 1: be it Like Richard's mother dying, It was sad for me.
- 4:54Speaker 1: I was thinking that too. Like you know, this show
- 4:58Speaker 1: does death really well. But do you really want to
- 5:02Speaker 1: do death on this show? You know what I'm saying,
- 5:04Speaker 1: because usually when when somebody dies on this show, and
- 5:07Speaker 1: it's happened before, it's been somebody a little distant and
- 5:12Speaker 1: for some they always glean the comedy out of it.
- 5:15Speaker 1: Somehow you're kind of nailing it, you know, you know
- 5:18Speaker 1: what I mean. And and you know, like Suki and
- 5:22Speaker 1: Lauren show. I think you're nailing it because I think
- 5:25Speaker 1: I think I don't want to have Danielle take her
- 5:27Speaker 1: headphones off. But I think that's my problem with it
- 5:31Speaker 1: is because it really brought it too close to home
- 5:34Speaker 1: for me with what happens later in the movie, right,
- 5:39Speaker 1: because this isn't this kind of show. Yeah, and that
- 5:42Speaker 1: was so painful, and the other shows do death, Yeah,
- 5:47Speaker 1: this doesn't. This show is not about it. It's not
- 5:51Speaker 1: even close to being about it, right in a sense,
- 5:55Speaker 1: but when they do it, it's it was. It was
- 5:57Speaker 1: pretty good, actually, it is good. The way that Emily
- 6:03Speaker 1: revealed the death was also such a Gilmore way to
- 6:06Speaker 1: do it. Like I I even forgot, like I've seen
- 6:09Speaker 1: this episode before, but I forgot. I was like, oh
- 6:12Speaker 1: this is this episode, Like I even it was just
- 6:14Speaker 1: so blunt, like, hey, have a second to talk on
- 6:17Speaker 1: the phone, and your grandmother died. Yeah, it was like, okay,
- 6:21Speaker 1: it kind of like three for a loop for a second. Yeah,
- 6:25Speaker 1: because it was shocking too because we just bettle with
- 6:28Speaker 1: her and she was fine. Yeah. Yeah, So it was
- 6:30Speaker 1: like and we knew Marian Ross was fine obviously because
- 6:35Speaker 1: she's alive now another character, right, So it's like, why
- 6:42Speaker 1: did they do it? Although there's reasons, Well, I feel like,
- 6:47Speaker 1: do you think, excuse me, do you think it's mainly
- 6:50Speaker 1: because there's so much of the storyline with like Richard
- 6:53Speaker 1: and Emily and Richard because you know then not to
- 6:57Speaker 1: jump ahead, but the letter comes in place. So I
- 6:59Speaker 1: feel like it was more of a storyline for Richard
- 7:01Speaker 1: and Emily in their character developed more. They had to
- 7:04Speaker 1: bring them back together, and they used her death to
- 7:07Speaker 1: do it. Yeah, because because I don't think fans were digging,
- 7:12Speaker 1: uh where Richard and Emily were going in the series,
- 7:15Speaker 1: because their their beloved. You need that solid base. Yeah,
- 7:19Speaker 1: you buckle up, everybody. Yeah, do we all have to
- 7:26Speaker 1: take our headphones off? Now? It's not Tara but you two. Yeah.
- 7:34Speaker 1: I mean, I I don't know why I think look everybody.
- 7:39Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know about you guys, but I've
- 7:42Speaker 1: experienced this loss, this type of loss too many times
- 7:46Speaker 1: in the last fifteen years. Um, and it's gut wrenching.
- 7:50Speaker 1: It's really really tough to get through it. But um
- 7:54Speaker 1: it forces you to grow as a person. It's it's
- 7:57Speaker 1: but it's it's you know, when you lose your mom,
- 7:59Speaker 1: there is nothing like that. Uh, it's it's horrible, and
- 8:05Speaker 1: it's it's you know, how did it make I kept thinking,
- 8:09Speaker 1: how is this making me feel? And how is it
- 8:12Speaker 1: making everybody in the audience feel? Because you know everybody,
- 8:15Speaker 1: it made me feel terrible. So that's why you kind
- 8:17Speaker 1: of don't do death in this show. And I kept thinking,
- 8:22Speaker 1: is there another way something could have happened to Trixie
- 8:24Speaker 1: or there could have been a different way to bring
- 8:28Speaker 1: Emily and Richard together, right except for like losing like
- 8:32Speaker 1: what became for me one of my favorite characters in
- 8:34Speaker 1: the show. Uh, And it didn't start out that way,
- 8:38Speaker 1: but that last episode she was in, just she it
- 8:40Speaker 1: was just so brilliant and I wanted more of that,
- 8:43Speaker 1: you know, and now we don't. Now we can't get it. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
- 8:48Speaker 1: that conflict between them, Yeah, I think a very useful
- 8:54Speaker 1: uh nice tension added to the show. Um, you know,
- 8:58Speaker 1: just my opinion. And the letter, I mean, I know,
- 9:03Speaker 1: I don't know if you want to start going through
- 9:04Speaker 1: the whole episode, but the letter was so horrible. And
- 9:08Speaker 1: then I don't Emily is unhinged enough for me, so
- 9:12Speaker 1: seeing her so unhinged, Although it was funny the smoking
- 9:16Speaker 1: and the drinking. I was like, I don't, why do
- 9:19Speaker 1: I not love this? Right? Right? You're seeing a great
- 9:23Speaker 1: actress um doing things we haven't seen her do before,
- 9:28Speaker 1: and she's she's just so good, isn't she? And she's
- 9:31Speaker 1: so funny and she's so I mean, I think of
- 9:35Speaker 1: all of the talent in that cast, um, you gotta
- 9:39Speaker 1: hand it to Kelly Bishop. Yeah, I mean you just
- 9:42Speaker 1: have to give it to her. I mean, she's what
- 9:45Speaker 1: a fierce, fierce talent um and that was on full
- 9:50Speaker 1: display in this episode. And and I see a little
- 9:53Speaker 1: note here by our team that that that Kelly Bishop
- 9:58Speaker 1: said to People Magazine, this is her face of an
- 10:00Speaker 1: episode of the series. You can see why. Well, yes,
- 10:04Speaker 1: okayause she got to come out of that that, you know,
- 10:07Speaker 1: the tautness and the tightness of that role she was
- 10:10Speaker 1: playing and just let it go get drunk and like,
- 10:13Speaker 1: who cared? That's what's making me think is because she
- 10:18Speaker 1: was so good in the episode is maybe why I
- 10:21Speaker 1: also didn't love the episode, because it was all just
- 10:25Speaker 1: way too believable to me. And I don't like Richard
- 10:29Speaker 1: being like that. Richard is a force. Richard is the steady,
- 10:34Speaker 1: strong father figure. So maybe it was just not that
- 10:40Speaker 1: it was not a great episode, it was just setting episode.
- 10:45Speaker 1: It was it was definitely different. Um. I was engaged.
- 10:49Speaker 1: I was engaged. I was on the edge of my seat.
- 10:52Speaker 1: I was all the great lines were coming, all the
- 10:54Speaker 1: great acting was there. I mean, you're getting so much
- 10:58Speaker 1: from the show, even when it's what we consider to
- 11:01Speaker 1: be a little bit off center in terms of tone. Right, Okay,
- 11:06Speaker 1: it's still bringing the heat. It's still engaging and great
- 11:10Speaker 1: and just filled with great acting. And man, when do
- 11:13Speaker 1: you ever see that, um like to that level? When
- 11:18Speaker 1: did people ever get to do that? Because that's you're
- 11:22Speaker 1: it's like you're watching theater or you're watching really really
- 11:25Speaker 1: good film. I just thought this was it was unlike
- 11:30Speaker 1: what we're used to on Gilmore Girls. But I think
- 11:33Speaker 1: that I think that the writers have trained us as
- 11:36Speaker 1: an audience to expect the unexpected, and that's kind of
- 11:39Speaker 1: how they write. And this was definitely unexpected, but you know, delightful.
- 11:43Speaker 1: Well yeah, maybe it was also because Luke and Nicole.
- 11:46Speaker 1: It was just for me, I was like, uh, there's
- 11:49Speaker 1: no unhappy and stars right now, right right right. It
- 11:55Speaker 1: certainly didn't have the levity, shall we say, um, it
- 12:01Speaker 1: was a different kind of humor, right, it was. It
- 12:03Speaker 1: was deep, unt wrenching reels. And we come right from
- 12:06Speaker 1: the very beginning of her friend dying. It's like, why
- 12:10Speaker 1: is already dying? You know what I mean? Like her
- 12:13Speaker 1: her friend dies, and then there's that drama and Richard
- 12:17Speaker 1: isn't going to go to that funeral because he's gonna
- 12:19Speaker 1: go with Mr. Himoto and Digger and yeah, and so
- 12:25Speaker 1: I was like, okay, and then then they got another death.
- 12:30Speaker 1: What did you find out? A little odd that, um,
- 12:32Speaker 1: you know, Richard begged off that funeral. He said he
- 12:34Speaker 1: had a business meeting and a lunch golf thing with
- 12:38Speaker 1: with clients with Jason, and well, what's it's like so
- 12:41Speaker 1: unfeeling and so uncaring. You know, her her good right,
- 12:47Speaker 1: you're a good friend passed away, right, and nobody cared.
- 12:50Speaker 1: Larela I didn't care, making jokes about it. Richard didn't care,
- 12:53Speaker 1: didn't want to go to the funeral. It's like, jeez man. Yeah,
- 12:57Speaker 1: it was tracking though, based off the right off of
- 13:00Speaker 1: Richard's got going on right now. His work and Digger
- 13:03Speaker 1: are so much more important. And look, I just want
- 13:06Speaker 1: to say, it's almost like this is one of those
- 13:09Speaker 1: episodes where four episodes from now, when we do that,
- 13:14Speaker 1: this is going to make a lot of sense. And
- 13:16Speaker 1: maybe that's what's clouding me because I'm a little dreading
- 13:20Speaker 1: some of the things that are coming. So I don't
- 13:24Speaker 1: know what's messing with me. They obviously I thought they
- 13:29Speaker 1: needed to build another foundation to the structure and this
- 13:34Speaker 1: is it. This was it um and you know that's life, right,
- 13:38Speaker 1: People get, people become invisible in relationships at times they
- 13:44Speaker 1: have to sort of, you know, shout a little bit
- 13:47Speaker 1: and say, hey, you know, take care of me. And
- 13:49Speaker 1: that's just sort of this natural cycle of relationships in life.
- 13:53Speaker 1: And you know, Emily is in one of those right now.
- 13:55Speaker 1: So you're so right, Like I know that we don't
- 13:58Speaker 1: like you know, death on Gilmore Girls or you know,
- 14:01Speaker 1: problems between Emily and Richard because they are you know,
- 14:05Speaker 1: quote unquote the pillars of you know, the show. But
- 14:09Speaker 1: I do think Gilmore Girls in general, there's a really
- 14:12Speaker 1: good way of of like mirroring what's happening in life
- 14:17Speaker 1: for just people, but also making it you know, a
- 14:20Speaker 1: little adding a flare to it, a little more dramatic
- 14:23Speaker 1: obviously because it's a TV show. But I think people
- 14:26Speaker 1: can can watch this and relate to it, you know,
- 14:29Speaker 1: whether their grandmother passed away or they feel invisible in
- 14:33Speaker 1: you know, their relationship, or um a relative passes away
- 14:38Speaker 1: but they're not close to them, so they don't know
- 14:39Speaker 1: how to feel. You know. Like all these different elements
- 14:43Speaker 1: of this show. Although it does suck, it's centered around death.
- 14:46Speaker 1: I think everyone can kind of find a thing that
- 14:49Speaker 1: they can relate to. It's almost like, oh, I didn't
- 14:52Speaker 1: know they could do that, And look how versatile the writings,
- 14:56Speaker 1: look how versatile the acting is. They went there. It's
- 14:59Speaker 1: like a band. You know, some bands they're very versatile.
- 15:03Speaker 1: They can do all different kinds of styles and oh,
- 15:05Speaker 1: nice ballads and then heavy stuff and then cool rock
- 15:08Speaker 1: stuff and some bands just do straight rock stuff or whatever.
- 15:10Speaker 1: And you know what, you're gonna get this one. It's like,
- 15:13Speaker 1: this is a different type of a song that Yeah,
- 15:16Speaker 1: that's that's a good analogy, you know what I'm saying.
- 15:18Speaker 1: And you still like the band, but you're like, right,
- 15:22Speaker 1: it deepens the experience with the band. It's like I
- 15:24Speaker 1: didn't know they could do that, or they would do that,
- 15:27Speaker 1: Like it was a risk, right, they took a risk
- 15:30Speaker 1: and it paid off. I thought. I just thought it
- 15:32Speaker 1: deepened the show, deepened the quality of the show, and
- 15:35Speaker 1: it deepened our experience as an audience of it because
- 15:37Speaker 1: we're going deeper with them. Yeah. I liked loraa Lye,
- 15:43Speaker 1: like she was handling everything. Well. I sort of brought
- 15:45Speaker 1: it up like Digger kind of bugged. I don't know why. Yeah,
- 15:50Speaker 1: that one, that one line he said where he was
- 15:52Speaker 1: like someone like ever like was the one lighte he
- 15:57Speaker 1: said where he was like it's a bad time my family,
- 16:00Speaker 1: where someone's dying once a month or something like that. Yeah,
- 16:03Speaker 1: and when he was ten years old. Yeah, Yeah, I
- 16:07Speaker 1: just thought Digger didn't really step up. He didn't really
- 16:10Speaker 1: step up for Richard, he didn't really step up for
- 16:12Speaker 1: lower Lie. Yeah. But do we expect him to We don't.
- 16:15Speaker 1: I don't, absolutely not. I sort of always hoped he
- 16:18Speaker 1: would be a really great guy. I'm waiting for the
- 16:20Speaker 1: funny excuses, and I find him just bizarre and funny.
- 16:23Speaker 1: Now you know, he's like the funnier. He was the
- 16:26Speaker 1: funniest guy in the episode because he was like, no,
- 16:28Speaker 1: I like, you don't understand. I'm really screwed up and
- 16:31Speaker 1: I can't do this when I was Tennis Like, it's like, okay, alright,
- 16:34Speaker 1: this guy he's like, did you see how long that
- 16:37Speaker 1: hug was? Wait? Okay, I know I'm being annoying by
- 16:42Speaker 1: like trying to direct so long? Why did that? Luke
- 16:48Speaker 1: and Nicole we get that kind of so, so we
- 16:50Speaker 1: get the opening scene and they're eating the scargo, which
- 16:54Speaker 1: is so gross. I mean, just that scargo was great
- 17:00Speaker 1: if it's done well, No, it's just that's so good.
- 17:04Speaker 1: Such a Now it's Scot's like such a Yes, I've
- 17:09Speaker 1: never tried it, but I want it. Oh, Tara, Tara
- 17:13Speaker 1: just opened up the hole. I know you should have
- 17:16Speaker 1: said that. I actually why, I'm very like, I'll eat anything,
- 17:21Speaker 1: like I really do. I'll try anything, so at least
- 17:23Speaker 1: once I've tried it. It's not the taste of it's
- 17:27Speaker 1: the thought of it. Yeah, is it like really salty?
- 17:31Speaker 1: Like the chew of it? You know, if you combine
- 17:35Speaker 1: it with a pesto like a warm pluck. I don't
- 17:39Speaker 1: even like pesto. Well, let's talk about Nicole and Luke,
- 17:48Speaker 1: because I feel like there's a lot there, and I
- 17:51Speaker 1: feel like, Amy, you are passionate about Nicole and Luke,
- 17:54Speaker 1: so you go for it. Well, I don't like it.
- 17:57Speaker 1: I've never liked it. I'm ready to be done with Nicole.
- 17:59Speaker 1: I actual really thought she was done. I forgot that
- 18:02Speaker 1: we have to deal with this, so, you know, I'm
- 18:06Speaker 1: not feeling like she could like I liked. She's fine,
- 18:10Speaker 1: she's fine. No one's right for him. So anyway, I mean, okay, fine,
- 18:14Speaker 1: they're fighting. It's really annoying. They should end it. And
- 18:17Speaker 1: it was a little sad when he's like, are you
- 18:18Speaker 1: going home? And she's just like, yeah, no, are you
- 18:22Speaker 1: going back to our place? And she's like whatever she says,
- 18:26Speaker 1: what did she say? She said our place? Yeah, because
- 18:31Speaker 1: it's not their place, like Luke does not stay there there. Yeah.
- 18:36Speaker 1: Well right, I don't even want to know what's going
- 18:39Speaker 1: on between those two. I just wanted to end. Yeah,
- 18:44Speaker 1: no one cares. Sorry, love Tricia, right, she's great. Yeah,
- 18:49Speaker 1: she's a great actress and she was fun on set.
- 18:52Speaker 1: It looks great. She's just great every way. But yeah,
- 18:56Speaker 1: that relationship is seen better days. Man, it never saw
- 19:01Speaker 1: better days. It was bad from the start. I don't know,
- 19:08Speaker 1: so anyway, I'm not sure. I guess Look who am I?
- 19:11Speaker 1: Who am I to judge? I'm supposed to be fired.
- 19:14Speaker 1: But what it's fine. Look, we're all trying, and I'm
- 19:19Speaker 1: working on all the things that you guys criticize. I'm
- 19:21Speaker 1: working on it also. Anyway, let's get back to it.
- 19:24Speaker 1: So Lane is working at the diner, which I like,
- 19:28Speaker 1: and how the fish pan got mixed with the eggs?
- 19:31Speaker 1: I correct, Yeah, But what I actually I don't know.
- 19:38Speaker 1: It's is this weird of me to get territorial because
- 19:41Speaker 1: those are my lines? Right? I wanted to deliver those lines.
- 19:45Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, Lanes lines. He means, yeah,
- 19:48Speaker 1: it's like, now Lane's taking my lines away from me
- 19:50Speaker 1: just because you were fighting the coal. But I want,
- 19:55Speaker 1: I want, I want, Then I want Luke any line
- 19:58Speaker 1: in the diner's looks, I mean, I agree, I mean
- 20:02Speaker 1: you don't. They're not Lane lines. They're lukelines, and having
- 20:06Speaker 1: Lane do lukelines is then Lane's not being Lane. So
- 20:10Speaker 1: it's sort of all mixed up. Yeah. I feel like
- 20:13Speaker 1: when I was watching this, I felt like, Okay, obviously
- 20:16Speaker 1: Rory's in Yale and they don't want to like get
- 20:18Speaker 1: rid of Lane, so like they're trying to incorporate her
- 20:21Speaker 1: in a different way that she can hear in every episode,
- 20:25Speaker 1: or of her with the boys at the apartment. I've
- 20:28Speaker 1: gotten more of that. Probably she needs money through but
- 20:33Speaker 1: we can know she works at the dinner. I think
- 20:35Speaker 1: for me maybe it was too much with the death,
- 20:39Speaker 1: Emily's meltdown, the letter, Richard heartbroken, and Luke and Nicole
- 20:45Speaker 1: are fighting like I didn't have any Luke and lower
- 20:47Speaker 1: Lie comfort. As it might be. I think that in
- 20:53Speaker 1: the last couple of years, we have all been conditioned,
- 20:57Speaker 1: if we're fans of TV watching UM to get ten
- 21:03Speaker 1: great episodes and that's it. That's all you get per season.
- 21:07Speaker 1: This order when we were doing it, was twenty two,
- 21:11Speaker 1: so it's hard. It's so hard to do twenty two.
- 21:15Speaker 1: It's really hard to do, like and I think this
- 21:17Speaker 1: show does it better than anybody to give you twenty
- 21:20Speaker 1: two really quality episodes, even though yes we can point
- 21:23Speaker 1: out some um you know, we could do a little
- 21:26Speaker 1: Monday morning quarterbacking, which isn't terribly fair because we're not
- 21:30Speaker 1: there in the writer's room in the moment, under pressure,
- 21:32Speaker 1: taking studio notes, taking network notes, rejecting them, you know,
- 21:36Speaker 1: filing through everything. What do we do? What do we do?
- 21:39Speaker 1: And then they make these decisions, and we're still getting
- 21:41Speaker 1: these great episodes. So it's really tough producing, especially back then,
- 21:45Speaker 1: producing all these episodes now a lot of these new
- 21:49Speaker 1: ten episode arc things that one season. I don't think
- 21:54Speaker 1: that these show runners are getting the level of notes
- 21:58Speaker 1: that network television gives their showrunners. I think that since
- 22:02Speaker 1: they're coming from the film side, right and creating these
- 22:05Speaker 1: wonderful shows, these dynamic, incredibly insightful and beautifully acting and
- 22:10Speaker 1: beautifully written shows, you're not getting the kind of uh
- 22:14Speaker 1: network or studio notes that one would expect. It's like,
- 22:18Speaker 1: hands off. You know, we've got Oscar winning people in here,
- 22:21Speaker 1: Oscar nominated writers in here. You know, f off, We're
- 22:25Speaker 1: gonna do what we're gonna do. You're gonna and that's
- 22:27Speaker 1: the way it is. So it's it's um So I
- 22:30Speaker 1: thought they navigated. I thought Gilmore, the Gilmore writing staff
- 22:33Speaker 1: navigated this stuff beautifully because it's well, it's really hard
- 22:36Speaker 1: to do back then. I'm able to separate myself and say,
- 22:39Speaker 1: just because I didn't love it doesn't mean it's not
- 22:43Speaker 1: an amazing episode. I think it was an amazing episode. Yeah,
- 22:47Speaker 1: I think I maybe it was just in the headspace
- 22:48Speaker 1: or it was too two. It almost just made me
- 22:53Speaker 1: think too much, and I didn't like where my head
- 22:55Speaker 1: was going. Right, It's not what this show does best,
- 22:59Speaker 1: but it proved that it can do it if call
- 23:02Speaker 1: upon to do it. And what did you think of no,
- 23:05Speaker 1: go ahead, go ahead? I mean, what did you think
- 23:07Speaker 1: of sort of incorporating a little bit of Yale into
- 23:10Speaker 1: this episode with the paper and Doyle. I enjoyed that stuff. Yeah,
- 23:15Speaker 1: I didn't mind that. I could have done without it.
- 23:18Speaker 1: I'm over. I'm over Doyle, Like well, oh no, really, guys,
- 23:25Speaker 1: Doyle is going to be around. He just is. Like
- 23:30Speaker 1: so I will say, like, I don't like Doyle. Here,
- 23:36Speaker 1: I don't I I like Doyle. Fine, if Rory starts
- 23:40Speaker 1: dating Doyle, I'm going to be mad. Not saying anything,
- 23:44Speaker 1: but again, if they if they cut to a Yale scene,
- 23:48Speaker 1: the pull is the pull away from death and into
- 23:52Speaker 1: life and you know, and youthful life and energy. It's
- 23:56Speaker 1: really strong and you want to stay there so you
- 23:58Speaker 1: don't want to leave, and then you go back to
- 23:59Speaker 1: death and it's like, you know, but you're so yeah,
- 24:04Speaker 1: so interesting. You bring that up too, because I thought,
- 24:07Speaker 1: and I don't know, i'd be interested to take a
- 24:09Speaker 1: stop watch. I felt like the death anything with the
- 24:12Speaker 1: death storyline, the scenes felt long, and the other scenes,
- 24:16Speaker 1: the diner scene, the Doyle scene, the Suki scene, they
- 24:20Speaker 1: all seemed so short to me. So I don't know
- 24:22Speaker 1: if they were they actually were shorter, or if it
- 24:27Speaker 1: was just like I was getting these brief breaths and
- 24:30Speaker 1: then I had to go back to the terrible and
- 24:33Speaker 1: then I'm already feeling terrible, and then the letter, I'm like,
- 24:36Speaker 1: oh my god, And now I don't like Tricks. I
- 24:41Speaker 1: mean I always thought she was sort of like, we
- 24:44Speaker 1: have so much to talk about, Okay, go to Suki.
- 24:48Speaker 1: You know who I did love in this episode, Michelle, Yeah,
- 24:53Speaker 1: he's always great. Anyone else look up mock turtle soup?
- 24:56Speaker 1: I think I did. But what I'm confused about is
- 24:59Speaker 1: they say turtle next soup? Did they not? Well, Richard
- 25:03Speaker 1: did Emily did? I think she misunderstood from Richard and
- 25:07Speaker 1: that's why they're like, do you mean mock turtle soup
- 25:09Speaker 1: because it doesn't correct, and she's like, what is turtlenext soup?
- 25:14Speaker 1: Like that does not I think that was just didn't exist.
- 25:17Speaker 1: I think he was supposed to be a funny joke. Yeah,
- 25:19Speaker 1: it was like Emily didn't know what it was. Like,
- 25:21Speaker 1: clearly she doesn't cook, she doesn't know what these things are.
- 25:24Speaker 1: And then that's why Suki was like, oh, you mean
- 25:25Speaker 1: mock turtle soup? Is it like chili mock turtle soup?
- 25:29Speaker 1: I looked it up and and yeah, it kind of
- 25:31Speaker 1: looks like that. It's it's almost like a beef stew soup.
- 25:37Speaker 1: It doesn't look It contains chicken thibe and beef and
- 25:42Speaker 1: is filled with tomatoes, eggs, onions, and peppers. I'm not
- 25:47Speaker 1: mad about it. That could be one variation. Oh it
- 25:51Speaker 1: was an article saying eat like a Gilmore mock turtle soup?
- 25:58Speaker 1: Do you really? Yeah to me? Yeah, that's right. I'm
- 26:04Speaker 1: still waiting on some pillows and shirts and things like
- 26:07Speaker 1: that which I'll never can thank you. Oh yeah, I
- 26:09Speaker 1: haven't gotten mine either, Scott, don't you feel bad getting soon? Yeah?
- 26:14Speaker 1: And James pettit's on it too. We've been emailing with
- 26:16Speaker 1: him getting some more merg So okay, I did like Suki.
- 26:20Speaker 1: I like how they reacted very appropriately to the situation. Yeah,
- 26:27Speaker 1: they were like, we're here for you. Michelle was so
- 26:30Speaker 1: cool and even the hug and then the funny joke
- 26:33Speaker 1: and let's not do that again. The whole thing. I
- 26:35Speaker 1: thought that whole scene that felt good, and Michelle was
- 26:39Speaker 1: trying to find the dog show all that. I was
- 26:41Speaker 1: like that. But it also let us know as an
- 26:44Speaker 1: audience that we're gonna push the pause button on all
- 26:48Speaker 1: of these characters, every single one of them, because the
- 26:52Speaker 1: showcase is going to be Richard had a little bit uh, Lauren, Yeah,
- 26:59Speaker 1: you know, this is this is who we're dealing with.
- 27:01Speaker 1: So we're gonna, we're gonna we're gonna do that to
- 27:04Speaker 1: the rest of them, and we're going to stay here,
- 27:06Speaker 1: which is which is you know, kind of fine. Right,
- 27:10Speaker 1: everybody needed to rest, and it was a chance maybe
- 27:13Speaker 1: for Amy and Dan to see what they could whip
- 27:18Speaker 1: up for Kelly um and here I go again, here again,
- 27:25Speaker 1: still be ignored by the Academy. You want to tell
- 27:30Speaker 1: me they were better performances than what Kelly get Bishop gave.
- 27:34Speaker 1: There weren't, So maybe that was just sort of a
- 27:39Speaker 1: measuring and Richard, I mean, like Richard in this episode
- 27:43Speaker 1: was just so incredible, That's what. So we just get
- 27:47Speaker 1: to that scene where Laura and Laura Lae brings in
- 27:50Speaker 1: the soup and Richard's on the couch, and that's when
- 27:53Speaker 1: you're just like, oh my god, this is brutal and
- 27:59Speaker 1: he's so sad, and then he has that regret and
- 28:02Speaker 1: it's just like, which is a very again another thing
- 28:05Speaker 1: somebody can relate to, like this is morbid. But like
- 28:09Speaker 1: anytime I see my parents and if I get into
- 28:11Speaker 1: a fight with them, I cannot let them leave until
- 28:13Speaker 1: totally we're okay again and happy and giving each other
- 28:17Speaker 1: a hug. Kill that stress, that the thought of what
- 28:20Speaker 1: happened to Richard stresses me out, like I I don't
- 28:26Speaker 1: I don't know. I totally agree, And maybe that's why
- 28:28Speaker 1: it was so upsetting, Yeah, because you you started thinking
- 28:33Speaker 1: about all those things. So I almost was like removed
- 28:38Speaker 1: from the show because I started thinking about so many
- 28:41Speaker 1: real life things. I don't know if that was my problem,
- 28:44Speaker 1: probably because it made you actually sad. You know, you're not.
- 28:48Speaker 1: You're not sad at Emily and Richard. You're sad at
- 28:51Speaker 1: like how it's actually reality and even in your own
- 28:53Speaker 1: life too. We're normally and I think Scott, we've talked
- 28:57Speaker 1: about this. It's like with Gilmour girls, you're so did
- 29:00Speaker 1: I forget everything happening around me when I'm watching it. Literally,
- 29:04Speaker 1: sometimes I'll be like, I'm just gonna watch twenty minutes
- 29:06Speaker 1: and then I'm like, oh, the whole episodes over, whereas
- 29:09Speaker 1: this one I kept taking me out, maybe because I
- 29:12Speaker 1: was like, oh, that happened to me. It wasn't. It
- 29:15Speaker 1: wasn't the escapism that we have grown accustomed to. And
- 29:18Speaker 1: when Doyle said he goes to call his grandpa or grandma,
- 29:22Speaker 1: that happens to me all the time. So I think
- 29:24Speaker 1: maybe it was just too many, like real life things
- 29:27Speaker 1: were coming in my head because I always try to
- 29:30Speaker 1: call my grandpa always. I don't know, maybe that was
- 29:33Speaker 1: the thing. I think so Amy, if it pulled a
- 29:37Speaker 1: real life you know, sadness from you and it put
- 29:41Speaker 1: you in that in that headspace, I mean, Luke, oh
- 29:45Speaker 1: my god, wow, Scott, Scott, you had that with with um,
- 29:50Speaker 1: your sister, and you talked about that and how you
- 29:53Speaker 1: were just so upset that episode and that hits such
- 29:56Speaker 1: a real life moment for you and real life parallel
- 30:00Speaker 1: and Amy, that's what this episode is doing for you,
- 30:05Speaker 1: you know, And then you know, Emily, she was eighty six.
- 30:10Speaker 1: Tricks was eighty six, so it was like great life
- 30:15Speaker 1: mm hmm. And then I think the pain for Emily.
- 30:20Speaker 1: Emily is running around like a you know, trying to
- 30:23Speaker 1: do everything and on her all her wishes when it's like,
- 30:27Speaker 1: oh my god, this woman. It was so awful. Do
- 30:31Speaker 1: you imagine what the show would have been like had
- 30:34Speaker 1: Tricks been a series regular and it was structured like
- 30:38Speaker 1: Tricksie and her brood and then Richard and Emily and
- 30:44Speaker 1: too much Tricks. You can only take her in small time.
- 30:46Speaker 1: I mean the fact that Tricks married her second cousin.
- 30:50Speaker 1: We talk about that she was so Gilmore. She's like,
- 30:53Speaker 1: I'm just gonna be a Gilmore Gilmore and I and
- 30:58Speaker 1: I love that it can come up. I think also
- 31:02Speaker 1: those phone calls. So then we have the phone call
- 31:05Speaker 1: where Lorely calls Rory and they sort of chat, because
- 31:08Speaker 1: you can't just be like, oh, hey, your grandma died,
- 31:12Speaker 1: like would you almost like why the way Emily, like
- 31:14Speaker 1: that's how Emily did it, So I think lourely, I
- 31:16Speaker 1: didn't want to do the same thing to Rory. Emily
- 31:18Speaker 1: it was better because it's like when someone says, oh,
- 31:20Speaker 1: I need to tell you something, you have that moment
- 31:24Speaker 1: of pure and total like that, Ah, that is the worst.
- 31:33Speaker 1: But there's like no other way to preface it. I
- 31:35Speaker 1: don't feel Hi, your grandma died. Yeah, it's either the
- 31:38Speaker 1: way Laurea I did or the way Emily did it,
- 31:39Speaker 1: Like there's no one between. Yeah. And then Rory trying
- 31:44Speaker 1: to sort of grapple with how she was feeling. I'm
- 31:46Speaker 1: not crying, shouldn't be more sad, Like I was just
- 31:48Speaker 1: getta know her, like, oh, that's funny. At least a
- 31:56Speaker 1: person called her what she loved and told her right, yeah, uh,
- 32:00Speaker 1: some family experience, you know, they get an email or
- 32:04Speaker 1: they got a phone call from a police officer. Oh god,
- 32:07Speaker 1: oh god. Yeah, and it was there were still good
- 32:12Speaker 1: moments of levity to where they were like, oh, well,
- 32:14Speaker 1: you've worked yourself up into a nice panic attack. Rory
- 32:20Speaker 1: was very relatable sort of how she was dealing. That
- 32:23Speaker 1: was very because this is not even her. This is
- 32:25Speaker 1: her great grandmother, so it's like who she didn't even
- 32:30Speaker 1: know that like, and then her wanting to learn about
- 32:34Speaker 1: her and wanting to help. I did love that she
- 32:38Speaker 1: learned about It was a kind of weird things she
- 32:40Speaker 1: learned about her great grandmother more through like researching for
- 32:43Speaker 1: her obituary than talking to her. But I feel like
- 32:48Speaker 1: that in a weird way. Really, I saw a bond
- 32:51Speaker 1: between Richard and Rory and this episode more than and
- 32:55Speaker 1: I've always known he's had like a special connection with her,
- 32:58Speaker 1: but this episode, I was like, oh, they are. They
- 33:02Speaker 1: are very connected totally. When she said I've got your back, like,
- 33:06Speaker 1: if you need me to do it all, I can
- 33:08Speaker 1: do it yea and tie his tie, Hey, grandpa, you're
- 33:11Speaker 1: not wearing your shoes like and having a piece of
- 33:13Speaker 1: paper and he's yeah, Like she took care of him
- 33:17Speaker 1: in a different way of this episode. Yeah, And I
- 33:21Speaker 1: was happy when Richard got it together. Yeah, I'm only
- 33:25Speaker 1: was still unhinged. He started to get it together a
- 33:27Speaker 1: little bit more, and then she really got it together
- 33:30Speaker 1: for the funeral, thank god. Yeah, I mean I'm skipping ahead,
- 33:36Speaker 1: but it was very sweet when that scene where she
- 33:38Speaker 1: talks about make sure he eats, and then he acknowledges it, Yes,
- 33:43Speaker 1: a woman with a tray is coming over to me
- 33:44Speaker 1: every eight minutes you're doing. And then they are sort
- 33:48Speaker 1: of reunited, and and Rory and lower Lie or maybe
- 33:51Speaker 1: it's just lower Lie. It's so happy to see that
- 33:53Speaker 1: m hmmm. Well, and the main part of that was
- 33:57Speaker 1: that Richard was like, I'm you know, I don't think
- 34:00Speaker 1: she belongs on our mantle. I think she should be
- 34:02Speaker 1: married next to next to dad. And Emily was like, um,
- 34:07Speaker 1: but she you know, she had her request and then
- 34:10Speaker 1: he was like, well, no, like I think she should
- 34:12Speaker 1: be very next to dad. And then you know, Emily
- 34:15Speaker 1: was like, whatever you want, Richard, and they like she
- 34:17Speaker 1: just you can just tell she was like, thank you,
- 34:19Speaker 1: thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you. And we
- 34:22Speaker 1: don't even know that Richard knows about the letter. I
- 34:27Speaker 1: don't think he does. Do you think he doesn't? Um, Well,
- 34:33Speaker 1: if he doesn't, if he's not aware of the letter,
- 34:35Speaker 1: he's certainly aware of her feelings about right, he's aware
- 34:39Speaker 1: of the letter because he got the letter, but he's
- 34:42Speaker 1: not aware that Emily now knows about well. Do you
- 34:44Speaker 1: think that he, like, he could have also completely forgot
- 34:47Speaker 1: about the letter. You know, I didn't remember he saved it.
- 34:49Speaker 1: It's one of those things where he like threw it.
- 34:53Speaker 1: Do we know if she even gave him the letter? Like,
- 34:56Speaker 1: do we know that? We're assuming because that's a carbon copy?
- 35:02Speaker 1: Do you guys know what that means? Yeah, they don't know,
- 35:09Speaker 1: like an exact copy. Yeah, well, because it was written
- 35:12Speaker 1: on carbon paper. So back in like the day, you
- 35:17Speaker 1: would write something on this paper and then it would
- 35:21Speaker 1: keep a copy of it, like you know your checkbook.
- 35:24Speaker 1: You yeah, yeah, I get that, but they don't really know.
- 35:30Speaker 1: I know, I know what Yeah, yeah, I didn't know.
- 35:33Speaker 1: Shout out to Easton. That's what CC means and emails
- 35:38Speaker 1: is it? Yeah? Carbon carbon copy? Me, oh, I don't
- 35:44Speaker 1: know that. That's so. Is BCC blind? BCC is blind copy.
- 35:49Speaker 1: I didn't know that a carbon cop. I shouldn't say this.
- 35:55Speaker 1: Actually I'm going to be a little bit more vague.
- 35:58Speaker 1: But it was an email that went out where I
- 36:01Speaker 1: think everyone was supposed to be b C c oh no,
- 36:06Speaker 1: and everyone was c seed no. You're going through the
- 36:11Speaker 1: list going well, just on this do I have it?
- 36:15Speaker 1: I just haven't read it yet. It's like the other
- 36:22Speaker 1: thing that everyone does and don't act like you don't.
- 36:25Speaker 1: When you get someone's address immediately, you're all zello zello
- 36:32Speaker 1: within point oh five seconds, like immediately, coffee in her
- 36:39Speaker 1: house like so much. I got invited to the houseworving
- 36:43Speaker 1: party and I was like zillo zila, that thing the
- 36:46Speaker 1: second I got the housewarming party invite. Oh my god,
- 36:49Speaker 1: I'm mad at you. When they're like sold off market
- 36:51Speaker 1: and you're all a really good price, I'll do that,
- 37:00Speaker 1: Oh my god. Everyone. You know what's interesting about Punel
- 37:08Speaker 1: and Lot. She was in one episode, right, she is referenced.
- 37:15Speaker 1: I think actually you can even find out how many
- 37:17Speaker 1: times she's referenced. She's referenced so many times in this show. Yeah,
- 37:22Speaker 1: she was. I agree with you. I thought of that too.
- 37:25Speaker 1: I'm like, how did she only appear once in this
- 37:27Speaker 1: such a presence in this to show? Um? Yeah the bomb? Yeah, okay, Scott,
- 37:38Speaker 1: I have a question for you the letter. Let's just say,
- 37:42Speaker 1: you know your wife got that letter from her dad, like,
- 37:46Speaker 1: and you found out about it, Like, what does it
- 37:50Speaker 1: like for me? Personally? I would die? Like I literally
- 37:54Speaker 1: don't know how I can come back from that. Mm hmm.
- 38:00Speaker 1: But Graham was already so awful and she's wrong. Richard
- 38:04Speaker 1: and Emily are meant to be so she was wrong. Well,
- 38:08Speaker 1: you know, it gives us a clue. So it was like,
- 38:13Speaker 1: you know, it was this sort of Lady Die and
- 38:15Speaker 1: Prince Charles scenario. Camilla Parkle balls, right, it reminds you
- 38:19Speaker 1: of that. Yeah, but obviously Richard was a better man
- 38:27Speaker 1: at that time and understood more what he needed in
- 38:34Speaker 1: his life than his own mother. Well, and Graham was
- 38:37Speaker 1: tough on him. That's the whole fight that he has
- 38:39Speaker 1: so much regret about, is that she was remember when
- 38:45Speaker 1: she had to bail him out, which probably was sort
- 38:47Speaker 1: of fine at the time, but then calling it out
- 38:50Speaker 1: this many years later and not really honoring all the
- 38:54Speaker 1: success that he has had on his own. She sort
- 38:57Speaker 1: of tried to take credit for a lot of the
- 38:58Speaker 1: air and he was like, I paid you back within
- 39:01Speaker 1: three months or whatever the time was. Like, she was tough, yeah,
- 39:07Speaker 1: and you know, at one point, do you do you
- 39:11Speaker 1: do you lay down your sword and and for the
- 39:15Speaker 1: for the betterment of all and for the good of
- 39:16Speaker 1: the family. Uh, you know, embrace Emily and yeah, keep
- 39:21Speaker 1: your shut. Yeah. It's like and she just kept coming
- 39:24Speaker 1: in and coming, you know. It's like, that's why I
- 39:28Speaker 1: didn't like her. It's after Emily, after forty plus years,
- 39:32Speaker 1: it's like, chill, okay, accept it, grow up totally. Stop
- 39:37Speaker 1: being such a a fly in the ointment, right, It's like, okay,
- 39:41Speaker 1: stop castrating your son. Stop degrading Emily in front of
- 39:48Speaker 1: the granddaughter. In front of the daughter. It's like, you know,
- 39:51Speaker 1: they had every reason to explode at her prior to
- 39:57Speaker 1: I mean, it was just inappropriate. That's what you write
- 39:59Speaker 1: that letter, right, So she writes that letter horbal letter, awful.
- 40:03Speaker 1: But Richard married Emily anyway, So if you love your kid,
- 40:06Speaker 1: then you go. I said my piece, and now I
- 40:09Speaker 1: must move on. But yeah, after all these years, and
- 40:14Speaker 1: also the fact that it's Emily like cleaning up her
- 40:16Speaker 1: estate essentially, you know what I mean, Like this person
- 40:19Speaker 1: that she deemed so bad for her son is taking
- 40:24Speaker 1: care of everything with her death, you know, like, just
- 40:28Speaker 1: had that nice lady in that pretty suit do everything exactly,
- 40:32Speaker 1: Like why is Emily even in there? Just have that
- 40:34Speaker 1: nice lady who who's packing up the house just do everything. Yeah, yeah,
- 40:40Speaker 1: well then you don't get that scene right exactly. How
- 40:48Speaker 1: about grand met three presidents? Pretty good? Okay? Can we
- 40:57Speaker 1: go back to the fight with Nicole and Luke. The
- 41:00Speaker 1: one thing that I thought was so hysterical was the
- 41:03Speaker 1: entire diner it's quiet listening. That was good and Kirk
- 41:11Speaker 1: saying he can read lips and first of all, yeah,
- 41:16Speaker 1: my other question is, what is it? A chef salad?
- 41:19Speaker 1: Our chef salad? Does anyone order a chef salad anymore?
- 41:22Speaker 1: I feel like they order a cob salad. A chef
- 41:27Speaker 1: salad is kind of like a cop, right, That's what
- 41:29Speaker 1: I was bad cob. I think I ordered a Greek
- 41:31Speaker 1: salad last night. Greek sp It's a great call. That's
- 41:35Speaker 1: very current. Chef salad seems so it's like it's like
- 41:40Speaker 1: the B version of a chop. It's a B version.
- 41:43Speaker 1: It's a that's meant to say, have a cop. Yeah,
- 41:47Speaker 1: it says it's lettuce, it's Swiss cheese, bad hay um,
- 41:57Speaker 1: turkey or chicken roast, beef, my god, it's a meat salad,
- 42:03Speaker 1: meat salad. And then there's eggs, avocado, tomatoes. God does
- 42:10Speaker 1: anyone when have you guys ever ordered a chef salad
- 42:12Speaker 1: in your life? I don't think so. Maybe I like
- 42:16Speaker 1: a good cob. I love the Yeah, I love a chop.
- 42:24Speaker 1: We know. I hate to miss I've missed out on
- 42:34Speaker 1: salad conversations before I thought of getting involved. Welcome to
- 42:39Speaker 1: I am all salad. It's a lot of meat and
- 42:44Speaker 1: I don't know that Swiss cheese in a salad. I
- 42:47Speaker 1: gotta call that little chef rider. He's got a lot
- 42:49Speaker 1: to do. He's gonna have a taste turtles, turtle soup
- 42:54Speaker 1: and a chef sal He's busy. He's a busy week.
- 42:59Speaker 1: Jackie came in with a question. Oh yeah, Jackie, what
- 43:02Speaker 1: was that question you had about what I was going
- 43:04Speaker 1: to bring up? Yeah, she said, without knowing Marian Ross
- 43:08Speaker 1: played Maryland, which is Richard's cousin. Would you have noticed
- 43:12Speaker 1: it was the same actric actress as Trick? It was?
- 43:15Speaker 1: It was. It was very jarring. Yeah. I feel like
- 43:18Speaker 1: Gilmore has done that a couple of times though, so
- 43:20Speaker 1: I've noticed. I was like, just a new wig, that's all.
- 43:24Speaker 1: You got new inflections. It's like, how Kirk wasn't Kirk?
- 43:30Speaker 1: Not Kirk in the season season one? He were like, oh,
- 43:33Speaker 1: you're right, Yeah, it was not Kirk, just for like
- 43:35Speaker 1: a couple episodes. But yeah, I love that question because
- 43:39Speaker 1: it's like, of course I would notice Marian Ross like,
- 43:45Speaker 1: but maybe not, maybe not. I mean, we were we
- 43:47Speaker 1: were on alert in the world would notice. I know
- 43:54Speaker 1: you're right, but we were especially on alert. I was
- 43:57Speaker 1: waiting for her to come back because we knew that
- 43:58Speaker 1: we didn't got it, Maryland, I don't know, but that's
- 44:01Speaker 1: sort of had the seeds of a budding horror film,
- 44:06Speaker 1: you know, all of a sudden she's back from the dead,
- 44:09Speaker 1: back from the dead and standing there posing as her
- 44:12Speaker 1: but his cousin, where's this going? Oh Emily in the
- 44:17Speaker 1: row by the way with the drink and the cigarette.
- 44:19Speaker 1: It's kind of like with the yeah they say the
- 44:22Speaker 1: rope too. Oh, the Victoria's Secret scene or the fake
- 44:26Speaker 1: Victoria's Secret whatever that Laurel becomes unhit underwear and she
- 44:33Speaker 1: totally just loses it with that poor salesperson, Marylyn. Isn't
- 44:38Speaker 1: two episodes, We've got one? Yeah? Yeah, death makes people
- 44:44Speaker 1: lose it? Who does even Laurel? I lost it? Victoria's Secret?
- 44:51Speaker 1: Yeah she did, But also like what a weird thing
- 44:57Speaker 1: to do out? Yeah, yeah, I don't think you. I
- 45:04Speaker 1: think somebody's told you. I was gonna say, isn't someone's
- 45:06Speaker 1: drop to dress them? Like, unless there's something, there's a
- 45:09Speaker 1: dress special you want to give? Yeah, you still bring
- 45:13Speaker 1: the clothes. Did you guys ever see that show six
- 45:15Speaker 1: ft Under? I never watched it, but I think that
- 45:17Speaker 1: whole show was about I think they owned but yeah,
- 45:24Speaker 1: that's like a that's quite a business. I did. I
- 45:27Speaker 1: did enjoy at the end where Rory was like I
- 45:31Speaker 1: did see that you put a Hello Kitty bracelet on her,
- 45:33Speaker 1: like like that was so funny. Oh god, I mean
- 45:40Speaker 1: Laura I put. Yeah, but that's just the guilt, you know,
- 45:49Speaker 1: that's the yah. It's a Laura I touch. We talked
- 45:53Speaker 1: about the scene with Richard and Rory though. That's where
- 45:55Speaker 1: we're at now. It's like such a great scene. I
- 45:59Speaker 1: love fourth times the charm with the bow tie looks good.
- 46:02Speaker 1: Fourth times a charm and again reference references the internet. Oh,
- 46:07Speaker 1: you can find anything on the internet. I had this
- 46:10Speaker 1: conversation with my I bumped into a friend the other
- 46:13Speaker 1: day and she was married, divorced, married again, and I
- 46:16Speaker 1: hadn't seen her since she got married again. And the
- 46:19Speaker 1: ring was like so beautiful and I'm like, you're it's amazing,
- 46:24Speaker 1: and she goes, you only get married twice. That's a
- 46:30Speaker 1: fourth of times. The charm reminded, um, did you think
- 46:36Speaker 1: we should have seen the eulogy? Were you happy we didn't?
- 46:38Speaker 1: It's kind of like all of a sudden we knew
- 46:39Speaker 1: he got through it. I was fine without it. Yeah,
- 46:42Speaker 1: me too. Yeah, I'm always like skip skip over the wedding,
- 46:46Speaker 1: skip over the funeral. Yeah, I think it would have
- 46:48Speaker 1: been enough. We had enough already with the death. We
- 46:52Speaker 1: didn't really need. Yea, this is my granddaughter, Laurla. She's
- 46:58Speaker 1: not married. Yeah, there was that. Somehow Tricks said that.
- 47:06Speaker 1: I forget who was telling the story, but she's like, oh.
- 47:09Speaker 1: And then that was so sweet when Marilyn says, am
- 47:12Speaker 1: I possibly related to you? That was that was cute.
- 47:16Speaker 1: That was very cute. Did you like I liked her.
- 47:20Speaker 1: I liked her. She's less annoying than Tricks slightly. What
- 47:28Speaker 1: a character. Yeah, she's fun and I like that. We
- 47:31Speaker 1: heard all those stories about Tricks that, you know, like
- 47:34Speaker 1: we're when she was here and there, she did this
- 47:37Speaker 1: and that. I don't know, it's kind of cool. There
- 47:45Speaker 1: were some epic lines when when lord lyon Emily are
- 47:48Speaker 1: on the couch and she's all, how are you? My
- 47:50Speaker 1: feet are killing me. How's the rest of you? Oh God?
- 47:56Speaker 1: And then she says, did you were really wear those
- 47:58Speaker 1: shoes to a funeral? Still the same old Emily back? Yeah,
- 48:02Speaker 1: she just had like one day she was off. Yeah,
- 48:06Speaker 1: I don't know. There was some good stuff yeah, what
- 48:10Speaker 1: did you think about the reigning Lorelai conversation? Interesting because
- 48:16Speaker 1: Lorelai is now the rain. But I want to hear
- 48:19Speaker 1: Scott h Well, I mean talk about a huge responsibility.
- 48:28Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know what it even means. What
- 48:30Speaker 1: does that mean? What is she carrying on? I mean
- 48:38Speaker 1: she couldn't be you know, she's a hundred and eighty
- 48:41Speaker 1: degrees different from um from Trixie. Does anybody have that
- 48:47Speaker 1: in their family where like they can't, they can't somebody
- 48:50Speaker 1: carries on a name like I don't know, that doesn't
- 48:53Speaker 1: exist in my family. There's not like me, I was
- 48:56Speaker 1: supposed to be the fifth No, so's my point. It's like,
- 49:02Speaker 1: what is Lauraa carrying on? What her what will her
- 49:06Speaker 1: reign include? What will she how will she carry the
- 49:10Speaker 1: family name? And I know that's probably a big deal,
- 49:13Speaker 1: but I mean, I mean she is also kind of
- 49:18Speaker 1: I mean not yet, but the reigning Gilmore in the
- 49:22Speaker 1: from her, you know, her dad's line, because they don't
- 49:25Speaker 1: have another kid or anything like that, only child, one granddaughter,
- 49:30Speaker 1: big responsibility. No, she's she's redefining the d NA. What
- 49:36Speaker 1: the DNA is capable of? Richard Emily don't have siblings
- 49:40Speaker 1: that we know of. Who doesn't Richard and Emily? Yeah,
- 49:44Speaker 1: we never meet them. I mean, was I guess Richard
- 49:47Speaker 1: was an only child? Wasn't? I said, I'm looking and
- 49:50Speaker 1: and Emily was an only child? Richard was because they
- 49:53Speaker 1: had mentioned it. Okay, what about Emily? Emily? Emily? I
- 49:56Speaker 1: don't know, but I know what Tricks mentioned. I've been
- 49:58Speaker 1: feeling that Emily was a opted Really, so, Richard, Lorelei,
- 50:04Speaker 1: and Rory Gilmour were all only children. Emily was not. Oh,
- 50:09Speaker 1: Emily Gilmour has a sister. Hope she lives in Paris, France. Really, yeah,
- 50:15Speaker 1: Emily has a sister. She's mentioned in season one, episode eight.
- 50:21Speaker 1: We must have forgotten it was my mother's name. Oh really,
- 50:25Speaker 1: it's name. Why did Richard and Emily have only one child?
- 50:29Speaker 1: They had fertility issues? Wow, they would have had a
- 50:33Speaker 1: lot of value placed on their bloodline. They would not
- 50:37Speaker 1: consider adoption a viable alternative, which maybe is another reason
- 50:41Speaker 1: Tricks doesn't like Emily didn't produce enough airs. How old
- 50:46Speaker 1: was Emily when when Rory was born? Emone has a
- 50:49Speaker 1: complicated relationship. Wow, the internet is just I could do
- 50:52Speaker 1: a deep dive here for days. To get a question,
- 50:55Speaker 1: and then it gives you a more quick Why is
- 50:57Speaker 1: Bebett's house so small? Does Rory have a half sister? Yes,
- 51:03Speaker 1: we already know that. Wow, this you could just really
- 51:06Speaker 1: go on and not we could do a whole episode
- 51:07Speaker 1: of this. Let's do one day. We're gonna just type
- 51:10Speaker 1: gilmore questions into the internet and just do I hope
- 51:13Speaker 1: Danielle didn't hear that. Just now, by the way, is
- 51:16Speaker 1: already born. Okay. I was like, no, one Flint and
- 51:22Speaker 1: I was like, oh Danielle, no I thought. I was like,
- 51:25Speaker 1: I was like, oh, no, Sherry had a baby. I
- 51:27Speaker 1: forgot the house after she saved enough money from working
- 51:32Speaker 1: at the Independence In. Most of the furniture, including the beds,
- 51:35Speaker 1: are discarded pieces from the Inn courtesy of Mia Wow.
- 51:40Speaker 1: I mean, all right, what do you what do you
- 51:43Speaker 1: let's rate this? What do you what do you want
- 51:44Speaker 1: to give it? It was, by the way, it was
- 51:46Speaker 1: so funny. I saw a comment saying, why didn't you
- 51:48Speaker 1: guys rate last week's episode in costco membership card. Okay,
- 51:57Speaker 1: I have two ideas. We can't either rate it turtle
- 52:00Speaker 1: turtle or mock turtle soups or what about class car
- 52:07Speaker 1: glasses or yeah, what about s car go mock turtle soups?
- 52:15Speaker 1: Is what's hitting it for me? But Chef, why don't
- 52:20Speaker 1: we just give it our own like that? How you
- 52:22Speaker 1: pick your own? Okay, good, pick your own. I say
- 52:28Speaker 1: eight out of ten, Hello kitty bracelets. I'm gonna say
- 52:35Speaker 1: seven point five, Hello kitty bracelets. Seven chef salads, seven
- 52:43Speaker 1: let six and a half chef salads. Wow, you really
- 52:47Speaker 1: like it? Um, I'm gonna give this Uh, I'm actually
- 52:53Speaker 1: going to award it an extra point for being so
- 52:56Speaker 1: bold as to go where no man has gone before,
- 53:04Speaker 1: exploring new planets and planetary solar systems. Um. They explained
- 53:10Speaker 1: they went to explore death in the starship, and I
- 53:14Speaker 1: kudos to them for doing it. So I was going
- 53:17Speaker 1: to give it um seven point five, but I think
- 53:22Speaker 1: I'm going to add a point for exploration and risk taking.
- 53:27Speaker 1: I love risk taking. Um, So I'm gonna give it
- 53:31Speaker 1: not only an eight point five, and I'm gonna give
- 53:33Speaker 1: an extra point four points for the Emily performance, and
- 53:39Speaker 1: then another point four points for Richard's performance, so that
- 53:43Speaker 1: we're up to nine point three now, and are you
- 53:45Speaker 1: giving it nine point three? What's bar classes that was
- 53:52Speaker 1: a more important question? Or nine point three open bathrobes?
- 54:03Speaker 1: Do you know that I learned on TikTok that everyone
- 54:06Speaker 1: is doing their bathrobes wrong? Wait? Why? Okay, so you
- 54:10Speaker 1: know you've got your bathrobe right, and you know there's
- 54:12Speaker 1: that like rope or tie and people put it through
- 54:15Speaker 1: like it's a belt. Right, They put it through the
- 54:17Speaker 1: one loop it around their back and put it through
- 54:20Speaker 1: the other thing and tie it. Nope, you're supposed to
- 54:24Speaker 1: put it just through the front. So you put the
- 54:27Speaker 1: bathrob on and you put it through the one on
- 54:29Speaker 1: the right, and then you don't go around your back.
- 54:31Speaker 1: You just put it across your stomach and you tie
- 54:33Speaker 1: it there. And what's the point of all the loops?
- 54:36Speaker 1: There's only two loops. No, there's always one on your back. Incorrect,
- 54:41Speaker 1: So listen, I hate to cut into this fascinating diet
- 54:47Speaker 1: at my room. I am all rope talk, but the
- 54:52Speaker 1: crack staff has unearthed some very interesting, very interesting observations
- 55:00Speaker 1: or this episode. People don't want I am off chef
- 55:04Speaker 1: talk and I'm all road talk. We'll be back. Don't
- 55:06Speaker 1: you want uh this? No? No, no, we're definitely gonna
- 55:09Speaker 1: it'll be a thing. Yes, the road talk quite riveting. Uh.
- 55:16Speaker 1: This episode features several actors who have previously appeared as
- 55:19Speaker 1: different characters. Of course, there's Marion Ross, who previously played
- 55:22Speaker 1: Tricks and is now playing cousin Marylyn. Tiffany Frasier appears
- 55:26Speaker 1: as the sales clerk in the lingerie store. She previously
- 55:30Speaker 1: appeared as a hostess at the bar that Emily and
- 55:34Speaker 1: Laurel I went to during their spa trip in season
- 55:38Speaker 1: two episodes right exactly. Uh. Charles C. Stevenson Jr. Plays
- 55:46Speaker 1: the reverend that comes to town for Grants funeral. He
- 55:49Speaker 1: also appeared as one of Richard's golf buddies in season
- 55:53Speaker 1: one episode three, Kill Me Now, and spoiler alert, he
- 55:57Speaker 1: will show up again in a year in the life. Ye.
- 56:03Speaker 1: At twenty nine minutes exactly, look outside the diner window.
- 56:08Speaker 1: You can see Miss Patty just standing there, waiting for
- 56:11Speaker 1: her cue to enter the dinner. At nine minutes that
- 56:27Speaker 1: they do. They're freaking good man. Uh. At one, while
- 56:34Speaker 1: uh Luca Nicole are arguing, Miss Patty is sneaking a
- 56:38Speaker 1: taste from the marmalade jar. At thirty, here we go,
- 56:45Speaker 1: what do we have? Okay? We got twenty nine? Oh yeah,
- 56:50Speaker 1: that really takes an eagle eye because you could have
- 56:54Speaker 1: play it, Jackie, so I can see if she's staying,
- 56:57Speaker 1: like if she like moving or let me tell you something.
- 57:00Speaker 1: And the correct staff is so juiced up on Scotty Peace.
- 57:03Speaker 1: Oh yeah she was the seconds. Yeah, go back, go back,
- 57:09Speaker 1: so we can see her go back, yep, Okay, let's
- 57:12Speaker 1: see it here. By the way, that kid had the
- 57:14Speaker 1: funniest line of the episode. Yeah, we're looking at the
- 57:17Speaker 1: news at the paper. Okay, you're just standing like as
- 57:23Speaker 1: long as she walked around the corner, and she's just like,
- 57:26Speaker 1: that's really classic. What's crazy is when we go back again, Jackie,
- 57:32Speaker 1: when we watch these you really look at all the
- 57:36Speaker 1: extras out the windows that you would never notice, but
- 57:40Speaker 1: like they're there. Do you think she was supposed to
- 57:43Speaker 1: be behind like the green pillar? And yeah, and she
- 57:47Speaker 1: was just like two steps back. Is that the chef
- 57:51Speaker 1: salad on the table? No, that looks like a that
- 57:55Speaker 1: looks like a club sandwich? Okay, all right. At UM
- 57:59Speaker 1: thirty two thirty five, in the scene where laurel Ie
- 58:02Speaker 1: visits the Longest Race Star, keep an eye on Lauren
- 58:04Speaker 1: right after she says the mayflower for a quick second,
- 58:10Speaker 1: it appears she breaks character and suppresses a laugh with
- 58:13Speaker 1: her hand, but she recovers and moves on with the scene.
- 58:18Speaker 1: I feel like that was acting. We're gonna have to
- 58:20Speaker 1: examine that. We're gonna have um all right, crack staff
- 58:25Speaker 1: has let's see see can we see it again? We
- 58:28Speaker 1: couldn't tell anything anyway, alright. Favorite lines from the crack Staff,
- 58:32Speaker 1: uh kirk. I don't know why everyone in this town
- 58:35Speaker 1: always thinks I'm crazy. They enjoyed that. Also another one
- 58:41Speaker 1: favorite line Emily talking about the wake because personally, I
- 58:44Speaker 1: think she would just toss some cheese cubes in the
- 58:47Speaker 1: coffee stuff, some toothpicks in her mouth, and let the
- 58:51Speaker 1: people go to town. Yeah that was good too, all right,
- 58:55Speaker 1: thank you, crack Steah, well done. Indeed, like kids, I
- 59:01Speaker 1: think that's it. We're gonna anyone else have favorite lines?
- 59:03Speaker 1: I did mine. I had one. It was when Rory
- 59:07Speaker 1: said it was my great grandmother. I dropped the grate
- 59:10Speaker 1: to make it sound sadder true, just like you could
- 59:16Speaker 1: tell she was just like felt so bad, like lying
- 59:18Speaker 1: about it. You're gonna go ahead and give mine. Give
- 59:22Speaker 1: one from Nicole when she is like I was in
- 59:25Speaker 1: the middle of the word september. I thought he was like,
- 59:29Speaker 1: I thought we were done. She was like I was
- 59:31Speaker 1: in the middle of the word september. Irritates Nicole. I mean,
- 59:39Speaker 1: I don't know. I said some of them, but this
- 59:41Speaker 1: wasn't my favorite. But it didn't make me chuckle. How
- 59:43Speaker 1: when at Victoria's secret Lore like really said she's dead.
- 59:47Speaker 1: So many times she's dead? That was really God. Wasn't
- 59:53Speaker 1: there something about nuts with extra nuts or was that
- 59:57Speaker 1: my line? I kept writing down these people are all
- 59:59Speaker 1: nuts with extra nuts. What's up in the episode? Where
- 1:00:03Speaker 1: did I write that? I don't remember he wrote that?
- 1:00:07Speaker 1: Good writing? Don't write it is um? Alright, kids, that's
- 1:00:11Speaker 1: gonna do. We're gonna wrap this up next episode, Season four,
- 1:00:15Speaker 1: episode seventeen, Girls and became these boys doing the twist?
- 1:00:20Speaker 1: Do you remember it? Remember? I remember? Thank you Tara,
- 1:00:24Speaker 1: Thank you Danielle, thank you Amy. Alright, kids, thanks best
- 1:00:28Speaker 1: fans on the planet. Thanks for tolerating my sickness, my sneezing,
- 1:00:31Speaker 1: my coll I didn't want to talk about it, but
- 1:00:33Speaker 1: I feel bad for you. I'm going to go back
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