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- 0:00Welcome to Sober Talk. I'm Dennis and I'm an alcoholic.
- 0:04Soap to dear thanks to Alcoholics Anonymous.
- 0:08If you or anyone you know is struggling with alcohol, please
- 0:11call Alcoholics Anonymous on 1300 double 22222.
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- 0:24I'll just run through the preamble of Alcoholics
- 0:27Anonymous. Alcoholics Anonymous is a
- 0:29fellowship of people who share the experience, strengthen hope
- 0:33with each other that they may solve their common problems, and
- 0:37help with us to recover from alcoholism.
- 0:40The only requirement for membership is the desire to stop
- 0:43drinking and no dues of fees. Fair membership.
- 0:46We are self supporting through our own contributions.
- 0:50He is not allied with any sect in immersion politics,
- 0:54organization or institution, does not wish to engage in any
- 0:58controversy, either endorses or oppose any causes.
- 1:03Our primary purpose is to stay sober and help other Alcoholics
- 1:07are chiefs of Brady. My name's Peter, I'm an
- 1:09alcoholic and love to be able to get a share at my Home group and
- 1:16celebrate my birthday here. I was at Brompton on Monday
- 1:18night and the group there put together a celebration for me
- 1:22there too, which is really lovely.
- 1:23And it's good to be in a world where I'm just not in the
- 1:26background these days and hiding away.
- 1:28And because that was my safe spot most of my life and that I
- 1:34got to Alcoholics Anonymous through no fault of my own.
- 1:37I, I arrived in a, a, through a being a court decision to put me
- 1:44into a long term drug and alcohol rehab in 1991.
- 1:48And, and that was, I was 29 years old when I went there.
- 1:53And, and that was after a, a, a, a lot of very, very tough dark
- 2:02days and, and I didn't think rehab was going to make it any
- 2:06lighter, but I, I, I, I started drinking early teenagers, most
- 2:12of us are like that. And, and it gave me everything I
- 2:15needed instantly. And I like it.
- 2:18It brought me out of myself. Prior to drinking.
- 2:21I was a person that, as I said, I stayed in the background.
- 2:24I had absolutely nil confidence and I knew that I didn't fit in.
- 2:29And there's a real inner knowing that there was something not
- 2:32right. But I didn't know I was a boy.
- 2:35I had no idea how to express any of that.
- 2:37And so I played along. And in fact, one of the
- 2:43counsellors at the rehab after they've done an assessment of
- 2:46me, he wrote on the assessment a life of pretense to this point.
- 2:53And that was 100% right. So I acted my way through life
- 2:57and tried to be anything that fitted into the to the
- 3:01situation. And so I was like the chameleon
- 3:04and, and I had just developed that pattern of living.
- 3:09I knew no other way to live, but I inwardly knew that I was a
- 3:14fraud and, and I was just bluffing my way through the
- 3:18whole thing. I was a very poor student at
- 3:21school and I thought it was 'cause I was pretty thick, you
- 3:24know, I just, I failed everything at school and, and I
- 3:27knew I was the ugliest person on the planet and I, the only
- 3:33saving grace I had. I could play a bit of sport and
- 3:35I played cricket in the summer. I was a opening bowler and that
- 3:40would get me the pat on the back I needed to sort of get going
- 3:42for the next day. And I'd play rugby league and I
- 3:46was very small for my age, so I got pretty bad at playing rugby
- 3:48league. And but it's, you know, you've
- 3:51got to be in the team. You've got to be, you know,
- 3:53putting yourself in there. And yeah, it was.
- 3:57But all that sport sort of melted away when I found alcohol
- 4:01and, and alcohol quickly became a big part of my life from
- 4:08school days of first. I mean, I drank a number of
- 4:10times. There was a time I was working
- 4:12up in Foster Ton Curry, Northern NSW and my dad had a factory up
- 4:18there and I'd go up there from Sydney in the school holidays
- 4:20and go to work. There was only 12 or something.
- 4:21And, and I would go and live with the bloke that managed that
- 4:26factory. And we'd work in Taree in a
- 4:29stinking hot place and then drive out to Foster Ton Curry
- 4:32where you'd just notice the temperature dropped down.
- 4:34The sea breeze has come up and his name was Trevor and we'd go
- 4:37to his place and go out into the he's he had a golf course in the
- 4:41backyard and he'd teach me how to hit a golf ball and and he'd
- 4:44give me a can of KB beer and and I just always look forward to
- 4:51the end of the day after that. And I didn't have A at a
- 4:55conscious level, that's that alcohol really thrilled me.
- 4:58It was just the idea. That's not bad, that stuff, you
- 5:02know, and, but you know, when I really first had an affair that
- 5:08started my affair started with alcohol when I was about 14 or
- 5:1015, I went to a Catholic school, all boys school and the next
- 5:13door was all girls school. And, and I had to walk down this
- 5:18ramp to get to this to my school and walk past all the girls
- 5:22there. I, I, that was the longest walk
- 5:24for me. Every day.
- 5:25There was just a horrible walk. Oh, man, you know, I just just
- 5:28had to look away. And so, you know, that's my, my
- 5:31opinion of myself was so low. I thought, you know, I don't
- 5:33want them to even look at me, you know.
- 5:35And so that was the deal got down there.
- 5:39And then they'd have these school dances when we got to 4th
- 5:42form, which is year 10 these days.
- 5:44And we went to one on a Friday night and somebody within our
- 5:48group bought a case of beer or we all chipped in to buy a case
- 5:53of beer. It was 2 weeks old beer and.
- 5:56Yeah. And, and we went to this little
- 5:59laneway or a little arcade in Lakemba in Sydney and, and we
- 6:04all got involved in that. And then we went to the dance.
- 6:09And I remember I danced and I, I cracked onto this girl.
- 6:14I never, her name was Michelle Jeffrey.
- 6:15She was one of the prettiest girls in the, in the school.
- 6:18And she let me kiss. She let me kiss her and she let
- 6:21me touch her breast. And I'm 15 and thinking this is
- 6:25the most amazing night of my life.
- 6:28And, and then it was at the end, there was a bit of a scuffle at
- 6:32the end of the dance. I was involved in that, you
- 6:34know, I just, I just, I've never known life like this.
- 6:38I used to see all this from the sidelines, you know, and, and I
- 6:41was totally involved. And I got to school on the
- 6:44Monday and Mr. Keeble, he was the deputy principal and he
- 6:48called me into his office and he told me everything I did that
- 6:51night. And and I said too, right.
- 6:58And, and, and I think it was that point that I became an
- 7:01extremely rebellious, you know, my care factor or what people
- 7:05thought I would just snub on it to them.
- 7:07And and I was doing it to my parents and I became something
- 7:12that I was never going to be. And it was all alcohol fueled
- 7:15and the excitement of that life that the thought of drinking,
- 7:18the thought of going out with the friends and getting on it.
- 7:20And, you know, I was, I was in pubs.
- 7:23I was going to this pub in La Kemba for a couple of years from
- 7:2616 onwards. And then when I, on my 18th
- 7:28birthday, I went there and they asked me for proof of ID.
- 7:30I said, yeah, I got that. Yeah.
- 7:34So I, I was able to cover everything.
- 7:36But I think then I, you know, I met my daughter's mother and I
- 7:40was about 1819, we moved into a place together and the people I
- 7:44was mixing with was starting to be a little bit more worrisome.
- 7:49And I went to, you know, the people I mixed with after school
- 7:55were fairly dangerous characters and I didn't really know how
- 7:58dangerous they were, but they were involved in the things that
- 8:01I wanted to be involved in. And but there was periods where
- 8:05it was pretty terrifying. So man, look what they're into
- 8:07now. There was guns and all sorts of
- 8:09things. And again, it was all pretence
- 8:12on my part to be involved in that.
- 8:13I wasn't really a gangster or one of these sort of people.
- 8:16That was tough. I was still scared unless I had
- 8:18a drink in me. And anyway, those things
- 8:21developed as I went. And I remember at a, a guy
- 8:25staying my place and I had my girlfriend then and we had a
- 8:29brand new baby and this guy's waving around guns and things
- 8:34like that. He worked for drug cartels.
- 8:36And I didn't know that sort of life.
- 8:39I just knew that we had drink. We used to drink together and we
- 8:42grew up together and that's, that's the sort of life.
- 8:44And he got involved in heroin and, and where I lived was a big
- 8:48heroin capital in Sydney at the time.
- 8:51And I tried that drug a few times.
- 8:53And I'm one of the very fortunate ones that I was not
- 8:55attracted to at all. I was, I used to throw up.
- 8:59I'd go to sleep and wake up and throw up.
- 9:02And I used to say to Mark, I said, what do you see in this
- 9:04stuff? You know, it's like, and well,
- 9:06that's the good gear too, Pete. You know, it's horrible stuff.
- 9:10And so I, I just thank my lucky stars that, that it didn't grab
- 9:13me because I sort of grab a lot of people and a lot of people
- 9:16lost their lives through that drug and, or lost all sorts of
- 9:19things, did lots of jail. I missed all of that.
- 9:21So I'm very blessed in that area.
- 9:23But I continued to drink and alcohol.
- 9:26I was a daily drinker. I, I, I remember I worked for my
- 9:29dad when I left school and he had a business making blinds and
- 9:33curtains and awnings and screen doors.
- 9:36And I said, I worked for him. And then after about every
- 9:39months, on the day that I said I quit, he said, you're sacked.
- 9:43So we, we were in total agreeance that I shouldn't work
- 9:45with him and he shouldn't work with me.
- 9:47And, and I, I was a member of the late Australian Labour Party
- 9:51in Sydney and because I went to the Catholic, Catholic school in
- 9:55the Catholic Church and then there was a federal member in
- 9:58the Catholic Church. And I don't know if anyone's
- 10:01heard of branch stacking, but we were very good at that back in
- 10:04the day. And to ensure that he, you know,
- 10:07got elected each and every three years or whatever.
- 10:11And he's a federal member for a long time, this guy.
- 10:13And so he got me a job on the council when I, you know, I got
- 10:16lost my job with my dad and I used to work with guys digging
- 10:21up roads and, and that was a real drinking apprenticeship in
- 10:26there. A lot of older men drinking from
- 10:29first thing of the day. The bloke could pick me up and
- 10:32he'd have a can of beer with in between his legs and, and, and
- 10:35he'd give me one as we go into work at 6:30 in the morning.
- 10:38So I was, I got the early morning drink into my life very
- 10:41early and I loved it. That's still my favorite drink
- 10:44right to the end. My early morning drink was the
- 10:46best one, but so there's a lot of things went astray there.
- 10:51I was in and out of courts for, you know, silly stuff, you know,
- 10:56minor stuff, minor assaults and behavioral, all behavioral stuff
- 11:01on the alcohol. When the alcohol was taken out,
- 11:04it was pretty quiet guy, you know, and, and I'm sure of
- 11:06myself again, but when the alcohol was in, I was on stage
- 11:10and I had no control over that. And it was getting very ugly and
- 11:15my behaviour towards others changed.
- 11:17I became very dark, my mood became very dark and, and I was
- 11:21not safe to be around And, and I didn't like that.
- 11:25But there's a whole lot of people around me really hated
- 11:27that. And so as a consequence, my, I
- 11:30had a daughter, she was 18 months old when her and her
- 11:33mother left and went up to Darwin to get away from me.
- 11:36And, and I, I certainly, I mean, there's periods where I would
- 11:39stop drinking and try and sort this stuff out.
- 11:42And we went up to, they went to Darwin and after a little while
- 11:44I, I wrote to her And, and so I was able to go up to Darwin and
- 11:48see her and the child, maybe we could reconcile.
- 11:50And I remember flying up to Darwin and I really nervous,
- 11:55really nervous about the whole thing, terrified really.
- 11:57And then, then I hired a cart because they were living out of
- 12:00Kakadu. And I thought, I'll just go to
- 12:04the bottle shop and, and I got a small flask of Scotch and, and
- 12:10some case of beer or something. And, and I just remember driving
- 12:14at the Kakadu and I couldn't get these into me quick enough.
- 12:16I just was throwing this stuff down because I was just so
- 12:21scared of this whole thing. And, and by the time I got to
- 12:25their house, my whole demeanor had changed.
- 12:28My, my, the reason I was going, they got lost.
- 12:31I ended up doing doughnuts on their front lawn in this hire
- 12:33car. And then, you know, she gave me
- 12:36Belinda, my daughter and she said when are you, you know,
- 12:38what are you going to do? I said I was just going away for
- 12:40how long are you going to be? I said, I don't know, you know,
- 12:44and being that belligerent, I don't know and put the fear of
- 12:48God into them. And then they snatched the baby
- 12:50off me and, and they, they went and locked themselves in a room
- 12:53and, and I went and destroyed the house and went out and after
- 12:57that end up at Kakadu pub, not knowing what just happened.
- 13:03You know, just, it just happens. Just this stuff used to happen a
- 13:06lot with me when I drank. And, and the police were roaming
- 13:11through the, the beer garden of Cockatoo and, and they came up
- 13:14to me at the bar. I was just sitting at the bar
- 13:15talking to the bar and they said we're looking for a guy with
- 13:17this name. And they said my name.
- 13:19And I said it's funny. I was just drinking with a bloke
- 13:21named Peter, but he took off just a little while ago and, and
- 13:27they said thanks mate, no worries and moved on.
- 13:30And as well, they're still roaming around the bug and it's
- 13:31just the guilt got to me and it's just, I went and got and I
- 13:34said it's actually me you're looking for.
- 13:35And and then, you know, I had so many events with police where
- 13:42they treated me very well. They treated me extremely well
- 13:44considering my behaviour. I remember I, they chased me
- 13:49home one night, blew the lights going and I just kept driving
- 13:52until I got to my place, went into my driveway and and looked
- 13:56at them and said, what's all the fuss?
- 13:58And, and I just told them this really sad story about what's
- 14:01going on in my life. There's a bit of truth to it,
- 14:03but I really laid it on and they said, will you go inside and
- 14:05don't drive again tonight? But I did lose my license a
- 14:08number of times. But the amount of times I should
- 14:10have lost my license is, you know, innumerable, but but it
- 14:15was all alcohol fueled. Every time that I got in
- 14:18trouble, alcohol played the part.
- 14:20And when I wasn't drinking, my mood was unbearable for me and
- 14:24absolutely horrible for others. And but I'd be, I'd go into this
- 14:27place of pretence again and try to be this and try to be that.
- 14:30And but I could be none of it. You know, it's, it's a far cry
- 14:34from this little boy who was so scared of everything that became
- 14:37an altar boy and went to, you know, Catholic schools and tried
- 14:40to fit in and try to be the nice boy.
- 14:42I've become this animal in the end and very unpleasant
- 14:46character to be around. And but, you know, it's not, it
- 14:49wasn't all black, but it sounds like it was all black.
- 14:51But a lot of it was, you know, and, you know, I used to go with
- 14:54these guys that go surfing and they went, they went for
- 14:57surfing, I went for drinking. And we'd travel up and down the
- 15:00NSW coast and, you know, boards in and, you know, I'd think I'd
- 15:04spend as little time in the water as possible and, and I'd
- 15:06be looking for a drink. And so I was just an unsociiable
- 15:11person trying to be sociable and, and I had no idea how to do
- 15:14it. But I, I, it just seems like
- 15:18from the time I, I started to rebel, I rebelled because I
- 15:23thought I had the right to. And then I became, I rebelled
- 15:26because I had, I didn't have any other way to react to life.
- 15:30And so life was just far too much to me.
- 15:32I was not fit for it and, and alcohol was my only soul.
- 15:37So I ended up living in boarding houses alone and not many people
- 15:41turned up to see me and, and I'd make pacts with myself and say,
- 15:45Peter, you get in too much trouble when you go out to drink
- 15:48in the boarding house. Don't go anywhere.
- 15:51And it was a fairly smart move and I'd buy me alcohol, I'd go
- 15:55and stay in the boarding house and I'd have enough drinks and
- 15:57all that goodwill went out the window and I'd go out because I
- 15:59was feeling pretty good and I'd get into trouble again.
- 16:02So no matter which way I tried to deal with this thing, it, it
- 16:06always ended up in the same place that more sadness, more
- 16:10Vadnais, more scary stories and more police and smash cars,
- 16:15DUI's, all of that sort of stuff continued to happen.
- 16:17But I never really considered alcohol to be the problem.
- 16:23I looked everywhere else but alcohol.
- 16:25And mostly it was about people. I didn't like people and I
- 16:29couldn't understand why they didn't like me, but that they
- 16:31didn't. And, and I made it that way.
- 16:34And I had no idea that I was setting myself for failure of
- 16:37failure every time I got out of bed.
- 16:39But I, you know, swear off it. And I remember living with this
- 16:43woman up in Ballina in northern NSW in a really lovely spot.
- 16:47And it was going to be all change for me.
- 16:51It was a new change. I left Sydney to go and get my
- 16:53life right there and just was exactly the same.
- 16:56I moved up to Charters Towers in North Queensland and, you know,
- 16:59a new job and new career start there and, and mining and I met
- 17:04all my friends in the front bar at the Rick's Hotel.
- 17:06And, and by the time I left Charters Towers, there were
- 17:10people clambering over each other to get to me.
- 17:13And, and I got hurt a number of times up there.
- 17:15And in Sydney, I got terrible bashing down there.
- 17:19It's like some bloke just went to town on me and they had to
- 17:21drag him off me. And I was extremely, extremely
- 17:24knocked around for a long time after that.
- 17:27And, and all because of what comes out of my mouth and this
- 17:29filthy, horrible mouth that's so full of vindictive.
- 17:34And we knocked off, we used to knock off cars and I remember
- 17:38knocking off this car and all VW just to get on from the pub.
- 17:42And we went around the my friend was driving, we had a flagon of
- 17:48wine and he goes around this bend and I go out of the car.
- 17:51The door just opened out I go, you know, and all I remember was
- 17:55rolling and rolling and rolling and, and the gutter was the
- 17:58thing that stopped me. And I had so much skin and bark
- 18:01off me. It was like, and you know, I
- 18:04never went to the doctors. I never went to the hospital and
- 18:06everything. I just drank my way through the
- 18:07pain and, and tried to come up with some story because I
- 18:11couldn't hide the fact that I had so much skin off.
- 18:13And what happened to you? It was a bit embarrassing.
- 18:16So we knocked off a car and the door open and I flew out and I
- 18:20said, I can't tell them that. But I again, I was able to keep
- 18:23my job going because I, I worked for the council and the guy
- 18:27said, well, you can just make us all cups of tea and you can get
- 18:30in the truck and go and buy our lunches.
- 18:31I couldn't, you know, we did a lot of shovel work and things.
- 18:34I couldn't lift a shovel so they looked after me, you know, I
- 18:37didn't didn't need to use my sick pay or anything.
- 18:39And yeah, we used to have this catch phrase of the councillors
- 18:43and the working class can kiss my arse.
- 18:45I'm on the council at last. That was that was our phrase.
- 18:51And that was so true. No one really worked.
- 18:54I don't know how roads got, I don't know how roads got built,
- 18:57but they did. But the guy that was on the the
- 19:01trench digger, his his nickname was Yap Yap, you know, he
- 19:03wouldn't shut up. And and his other nickname was
- 19:06carpet back because that's where he'd end up at the end of each
- 19:09night on his back on the carpet in the pub.
- 19:12But but he used to he did really good work digging up roads.
- 19:17At the end of the day, he would fall out of his machine.
- 19:20He was so drunk and we'd have to empty all these cans, empty cans
- 19:24out of his cabin. This one every day this went on
- 19:27and it was a different world today.
- 19:29I don't think that would go on for too long, but those were the
- 19:33days. But yeah, so I stayed in the
- 19:36council and then I, you know, for as long as I could and I
- 19:40kept getting better jobs the whole time because I was a
- 19:42member of the Labour Party and I was a Labour, A Labour council,
- 19:45that one. And, and there's very large
- 19:47councils and councils in Sydney and were very political.
- 19:52And so if you're involved in it on the right side, you did very
- 19:55well, didn't have to act well, but you just did very well.
- 19:58So I looked back. I was so looked after.
- 20:00I was so looked after in so many areas of life.
- 20:02My parents helped me financially when I needed a quid,
- 20:06begrudging. They'd give me a bed some nights
- 20:07when I had nowhere else to go. But yeah, Sydney's a very harsh
- 20:12place if you don't have any money.
- 20:13And most of the times I didn't have much money because I would
- 20:16blow it as quick as I got it, you know, always borrowing money
- 20:18and every, you know, every $50 had an elastic band on it, you
- 20:22know, you know, take it off. And then it'd bounce back to
- 20:24them so I could pay them back and bounce back to me.
- 20:26And it's like. Never, never get over the top of
- 20:28the debts. And anyway, that was just the
- 20:31way I lived and it was the only way I knew how to live.
- 20:34I didn't question a whole lot of it.
- 20:35I was, you know, disappointed with myself, but I was more
- 20:38disappointed with the way the world treated me.
- 20:40You know, my attitude to the world was not good.
- 20:43And people, you know, so, you know, it was such a
- 20:47disappointment to me. I couldn't see the other side of
- 20:50the coin. And that's the nature of this
- 20:52illness. You can't see.
- 20:53It's a very blinding illness. And so by the time I got to
- 20:57rehabilitation, I was 29 and, and it was a court order.
- 21:04If I don't go, it's an instant warrant for my arrest and off to
- 21:06jail. And so while I'm alcoholic, I'm
- 21:08not stupid. So I went to this rehab and
- 21:11started in Surrey Hills and he spent the first month there
- 21:15getting, getting detoxed really. And, and then, then they sort of
- 21:19suss you out to see where you're at mentally and, and then they
- 21:22ship you off to different places.
- 21:23And the, the main place most people went was a farm, which is
- 21:27a 500 acre farm up near Newcastle.
- 21:29And it was run by the Salvation Army.
- 21:32And there was 90 men there at any given time.
- 21:36At capacity was 90 men, men only thing.
- 21:39And, and it was there that I first came to Alcoholics
- 21:43Anonymous cause they used to put some buses and that was part of
- 21:47the, the curriculum. They went to a, a meetings 3 or
- 21:504 times a week and they went to Chapel once or twice a week.
- 21:54And we had group therapy and one-on-one therapy with
- 21:57counsellors. And we worked there.
- 22:00It had a piggery on there and it had a dairy and it was 500
- 22:03acres. It was a pretty big place and it
- 22:06was very, it's very, it was Salvation Army.
- 22:09You run things like a tsunami. So you know you're up at this
- 22:11certain time. If you don't, if you don't do
- 22:13the right thing, you wash up for 90 people.
- 22:16That's your, you know, there's, there's if you didn't get it
- 22:19right then yet, the either left kicked you out or you had to do
- 22:23certain things to find favour again.
- 22:25And, and I got a job in the piggery.
- 22:28I've know if anyone's been to a piggery before, but they stink.
- 22:31They're the worst smelling places to go.
- 22:34And I got a sign to go there and I thought, oh man, I, I can't
- 22:39stay here. This is so rank.
- 22:40And but once the smell gets into your skin, you stink too.
- 22:46And so anybody around you say you stink and I can't smell any
- 22:51of it, you know, so bad luck. And, and I worked with these
- 22:54pigs and I worked with the sows who were ready to have their
- 22:59babies. And, and I love that job.
- 23:02I got to really love that job. But the, the idea of that, the,
- 23:06the process, thought process was if you've got a history of some
- 23:10violence in your life and, but you need to care for something.
- 23:13And so I was caring for the, the mothers before and after they
- 23:17have their babies and looking after the babies, which is an
- 23:20ordeal in itself, but, and you work alongside other people
- 23:23doing the same thing. And so it becomes a communal
- 23:26sort of event and, and I loved it.
- 23:29I, I, I felt so good doing that. And a lot of criticism went out
- 23:35of me and, and, and I used to work with a few people.
- 23:40And some of those guys aren't alive today because disease
- 23:42killed them. But I got to know a few guys and
- 23:45I really grew to love them as, as men, You know, they're really
- 23:47great men. The disease, you know, takes
- 23:50great men too. And but, so by the time I left
- 23:54rehab, you know, I've been to a lot of IA meetings.
- 23:57My problem was I wasn't in many of them.
- 23:59I often outside smoking and, and talking to the others outside
- 24:03who were smoking with me and, and we'd tell each other what's
- 24:06going on inside the meeting when it's as if we knew.
- 24:10And so, you know, as I'm my still my own worst enemy and
- 24:14still trying to fit in, still, still that whole Pete's trying
- 24:16to fit in and try to, you know, which group will I mix with and
- 24:19how, how do they carry on? And you know, such a fraud, but,
- 24:23but I came out of rehab and I went to Alcoholics Anonymous
- 24:26meetings every day around Sydney.
- 24:27And within three months I have a place to live in, in Newtown, 3
- 24:33Storey terrace house. I was living with my brother.
- 24:35I've got a job in the the Royal Botanic Gardens.
- 24:39I've got a girlfriend really quick and I've got a car and a
- 24:42license really quick and I had money in my pocket.
- 24:44I thought, there you go, that's sobriety sorted and but my gut
- 24:51just denied all that. My gut was so that scared kid
- 24:54was becoming more and more obvious in me and that looking
- 25:00at the world through different eyes again, no matter how many
- 25:03meetings I went to and and I used to wonder about what's this
- 25:07happy Joyce and free stuff they're talking about in here,
- 25:09because I'm certainly not that, but I wouldn't tell anybody that
- 25:12I was. That was a silent talk.
- 25:14I would have and, and there was a guy that his name's Wayne.
- 25:19I said, no Wayne, no pain, no gain.
- 25:22I used to call him and he was a member of Marrickville group
- 25:25over there. And he, he said, Peter, it's
- 25:29wonderful that you're doing a program, but why don't you have
- 25:32a shot at the a, a program And you know, I'm going to meetings
- 25:36every day. I think.
- 25:36What's you on about? I was, I was a bit rude and I
- 25:40said, well, what do you mean by that?
- 25:42And he said, well, you don't really do much here, do you?
- 25:45Oh, I turn up, you know, go to these meetings and and he said,
- 25:49well, you know, a lot of people come here and set up the meeting
- 25:52and a lot of people join groups. And just about most of these
- 25:57guys have got a a sponsors and, you know, they work with each
- 26:01other and they go through the big book and they say, oh, come
- 26:05on, mate, you know, that's a bit over the top, isn't it?
- 26:07You know, you're making a big thing out of this.
- 26:09You know, you got to do all this.
- 26:11And I said, well, why don't you become a sponsor?
- 26:17I didn't ask him. I told him and and he said, OK,
- 26:21well, I just need you to ring me this time every day.
- 26:23I said, I'm not doing that. You know, that's my first
- 26:27response. I'm not doing any of that.
- 26:28And so consequently, nothing happened.
- 26:30But I did join the group and I became their treasurer.
- 26:34And at the time I had a little bit of a gambling issue going
- 26:37on. And so, so take the 25 bucks, it
- 26:44was something from the Kitty or whatever and going to have a few
- 26:46bets. And then when I also had this
- 26:48job where I was parking cars in a, in a car park in Circular
- 26:51Quay. And on the weekends when they
- 26:53come in to park their car, there's 5 or 6 bucks to park the
- 26:55car for the day. And, and he'd give them a ticket
- 26:58to as a receipt of their 6 bucks, but I'd only give it to
- 27:01them if they asked for it. I'd take the 6 bucks.
- 27:03And if they didn't ask for the ticket, that's the six bucks to
- 27:06pay back a A. And so, so, so I had the the 25
- 27:10going out from from a A and the parking places got the money
- 27:14coming in to cover it. And so I think I heard someone
- 27:18say this program once I drank because I wasn't living right.
- 27:21And there's a big part of me that wasn't living right.
- 27:24And and I left Sydney after no wine, no pain, no gain got old
- 27:30of me. I'm not doing this anymore.
- 27:32And so I run away. Oh, great history of running
- 27:35away. They call it going on a trip,
- 27:37but it's actually running away. And I came to Adelaide and, and
- 27:42I stayed in as a bit longer, still kept up the pretense.
- 27:45I'm a good a, a member and all the rest of it.
- 27:47And I'm really, really happy to be with amongst you people and
- 27:50you know, you're saving my life and it's just rubbish.
- 27:52You know, I'm just echoing someone else's words.
- 27:54And so there's still the scared little boys getting around
- 27:58trying to prove himself. And so at the end of 4 1/2 years
- 28:02of all of that and going home and checking the dough plants
- 28:05and all the rest of it, I drank. Can you believe it?
- 28:10Can you believe it? And, and from the moment I
- 28:13picked up a drink, I was gone. I was gone.
- 28:16I was back to the early morning. Drinking was immediate and I had
- 28:19no control over it whatsoever. Anything that I'd learnt in a, a
- 28:23anything had just gone. And I was just in this place
- 28:28again where it was pubs and drugs and people and bad
- 28:32relationships and living with other people and, you know,
- 28:35destroying them and destroying their premises and police and
- 28:38Duis, car crashes, overnight cells, It's just all came back
- 28:44and it was a whole lot worse. It was a whole lot worse for me
- 28:47with my thinking. I was mad.
- 28:49I was so mad. I went so mad so quickly.
- 28:51And, and I went on for another 12 months and, and I was, I had
- 28:56an incredible occasion, which I don't have time to tell you
- 28:58about, but I ended up back in Alcoholics Anonymous and, and I
- 29:03haven't left since. And I was 29 years ago and, and
- 29:07I got a sponsor and, and I joined a group and a member of
- 29:12this group who's not here tonight.
- 29:13He took me through the the big book and introduced me to the 12
- 29:15steps. And I started working with other
- 29:18people. I got a doctor involved in my
- 29:21life to check my health because I'd live so poorly.
- 29:23And my life, my diet was strictly 2 minute noodles.
- 29:28And now and again I'd go the Oriental flavour and the step
- 29:32up, but but it was like I, I, I went through the big book and it
- 29:39and this whole program just opened up to me for the first
- 29:42time. This thing meant something to
- 29:43me. And I said, I'm Peter, I'm an
- 29:46alcoholic. And I meant it because I
- 29:48understood what it meant, because I went through the book
- 29:50and I learned all about it. And I remember when I came back
- 29:54to Alcoholics Anonymous, the first bloke that I ran into with
- 29:56Broken Hill Jack and he said, where you been?
- 29:59I said, I've been out there drinking Jack.
- 30:00And he said, well, get in there and tell them all about it.
- 30:03And he didn't tell me I had to do this, that or the other.
- 30:05Just get in there and tell them all about it.
- 30:07Tell and get well, was the old same we used to use.
- 30:10And that's what we've been doing ever since.
- 30:12And it's, you know, I've been sober ever since, but I've been
- 30:17a changing person over the next 29 years.
- 30:20You know, I haven't just got sober and became a good guy.
- 30:23Whatever. I just, it's been this ongoing
- 30:25change, ongoing conflicts, a lot of confusion, a lot of, I wonder
- 30:31what this is all about, what, you know, why am I doing this?
- 30:34I'm going, you know, you know, I had a lovely life and I got
- 30:37married, I went overseas, I bought a house, you know, from
- 30:40boarding houses to buying a home is just the most ridiculously
- 30:43huge step. And you know, from being the
- 30:46dumbest kid in school to getting a degree at, you know, even
- 30:50doing a, a, a postgrad and doing really well in it, you know,
- 30:55these are all shocking and amazing things.
- 30:57You know, it's like, how does that all come about?
- 30:59And, you know, I just look back at my childhood, you know, the
- 31:01anxiety that I lived in, you know, this everyday anxiety, I
- 31:04think I was just born anxious. And, and, you know, alcohol was
- 31:08dealing with that, dealing with a whole lot of other things.
- 31:11And so I had a very false view of myself.
- 31:13And thankfully, Alcoholics Anonymously, slowly but surely
- 31:17just given me a better view and a better opinion of myself to be
- 31:21able to walk in this world and don't have to be a pretender
- 31:24anymore, You know, and I don't, I don't.
- 31:27The last thing I want to be is, is that pretender, that person
- 31:30that's pretending that I like life or pretending that I like
- 31:33anybody, you know, you know, attraction rather than promotion
- 31:37is a wonderful thing. And I was really attracted when
- 31:41I came back to alcoholism. I was, I wasn't attracted to
- 31:43much about IA except Snowy. I ran into Snowy at a meeting
- 31:46and I, I just knew that man had something and he's the guy that
- 31:49sponsored me. And I mean, I was, you know, I
- 31:52had almost daily contact with him.
- 31:54He didn't tell me I had to ring him at 8:00 every day or
- 31:57anything like that, but I probably did.
- 31:59And I did that for about 20-3 years before he passed away.
- 32:01And because we had a relationship, you know, I became
- 32:05relational and, and that's taken me into, you know, places in my,
- 32:10my, my work career. It's like, you know, I became a
- 32:12nurse and then I became a mental health nurse and done further
- 32:16studies and, and now I'm working in forensic mental health and,
- 32:20and I only started this job recently and it's like, man, I
- 32:23want to run away from it. You know, there's a whole lot
- 32:25more to learn. It's a whole new sort of legal
- 32:27side to mental health and supervision licenses and things.
- 32:31And man, it's a whole new ball game.
- 32:34I think, man, do I really want to do this?
- 32:36And then I can't with all these reasons why I don't have to.
- 32:39I've got enough money. I don't really need to do this
- 32:40and but I, I do need to do this, you know, it's a challenge and
- 32:45it's, it's where, where I've been put.
- 32:46I think that's where God's got me at the moment.
- 32:48When the job became available, I said to God, do you think I
- 32:50should go for this job? And the, the response that came
- 32:53back was, well, if you don't apply for it, you've answered
- 32:57your own question. OK, so I better apply for it.
- 33:00So, and then there's a number of people went for it and I got the
- 33:03job and there's your answer. And so if I was to just throw it
- 33:06away because I'm fearful, I think that will be not what the
- 33:10desired response would be. So I think my thinking has
- 33:14improved a lot over the years and my ability to discuss things
- 33:17and be honest about where I'm at has improved enormously through,
- 33:22you know, I went through been married 20 years and a few years
- 33:25ago, my wife and I had a very difficult time where we
- 33:28separated. And I just was telling Jeff
- 33:31about it today, how it knocked me for six and it really hurt me
- 33:34and, and I didn't know if I was going to get up from that.
- 33:37My, my thinking. I was just nothing, nothing was
- 33:41resolving my grief. And, and then it was, remember
- 33:47this person said, just give everything to God.
- 33:48You got to continue to give everything to God.
- 33:50And, but what a fluffy thing to say.
- 33:52But I actually applied it and, and I trusted God for two
- 33:56reasons, because he's a miracle working God, because we're all
- 33:58miracles in here. And he's a, and he keeps his
- 34:01promises. And that was the two things I,
- 34:03I, I went with. And then I just had to leave the
- 34:06whole thing alone. And, and over time, my wife and
- 34:09I have reunited better than it's ever been.
- 34:12You know, it's been the most extraordinary run of events that
- 34:15have taken place. And, you know, we love each
- 34:17other very much, but we had to learn how to do that really
- 34:20well, a whole lot better because things just, you know, you know,
- 34:23you just let the lawns grow a bit long and then it becomes
- 34:26weedy and it gets messy. And it's like the time you get
- 34:28back to it, man. How do you fix this?
- 34:30And how do you fix? And I knew I couldn't fix it.
- 34:33And I put that down to Alcoholics Anonymous.
- 34:35My walk in IA is being to learn about that word palace that I'm
- 34:40not, you know, I don't breathe without God.
- 34:42You know, I don't, I don't exist without this higher power that
- 34:45we speak about. And you know, I know that my
- 34:47recovery today is not because I'm smart and clever.
- 34:50It's the grace of God that's got me where I'm sitting today to be
- 34:53able to talk about this and not in not, you know, you know, we
- 34:56driving here tonight, there's people sleeping in the streets
- 34:58in North Adelaide and you know, that that could be me.
- 35:01I, I've worked in mental health institutions and I, that could
- 35:04be me, you know, and I'm here amongst my fellow man men, you
- 35:09know, people here that I really love and respect to sit down and
- 35:13have a chat with, you know, what a gift.
- 35:15And it's like I couldn't talk to anybody once.
- 35:18So the, the program is wonderful.
- 35:21Alcoholic silence is fantastic, but the program is just my
- 35:25mainstay and it keeps me honest. It keeps me, keeps me talking
- 35:31and it helps me to listen. It helps me to learn.
- 35:33It helps me to be a better, a better family man.
- 35:35And you know, it lets me know when I'm getting it wrong.
- 35:38And I don't want to get things wrong.
- 35:41But I never wanted to hurt anybody in my life, but I hurt
- 35:43many and I can do that without a drink.
- 35:45So Alcoholics Anonymous deals with my alcoholism.
- 35:49There's no cure, but I know what this place has given me and
- 35:53continuously give me is more than I ever expected.
- 35:56And it introduced me to power greater than myself, who I
- 35:59submit to every day, and that gives me a whole lot of peace
- 36:04and thanks. For being here A A has more than
- 36:06two million recovering Alcoholics throughout the world.
- 36:10In Australia there are about 18,000 members.
- 36:15They're made in over 2000 local meetings spread around the
- 36:19country. Meetings range in size from a
- 36:22handful in some areas to hundreds or more in larger
- 36:27communities. And once again, if anyone you
- 36:30know is struggling with alcohol issues, please call Alcoholics
- 36:34Announcing 1300 Double 00022 or visit their website on aa.org
- 36:42dot AU.