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1-877-Kars4Kids · Conspiracy! The Show

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  Speaker 1: Wait insurance true, I'm a check both the autut your Well. Hey, everybody,
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  Speaker 1: welcome to Conspiracy the Show. I'm your host, Adam Todd
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  Speaker 1: Brown joining me as co host e Conor mc spadden's here.
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  Speaker 1: How's it going?
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  Speaker 2: Man? One et seven seven Cars for Kids KRS Cars
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  Speaker 2: for Kids. One needs seven seven Cars for Kids. Donate
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  Speaker 2: your boat today. See they throw that in there so
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  Speaker 2: you know you can donate boats too.
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  Speaker 1: That jingle just officially made this podcast illegal in California.
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  Speaker 2: Oh that's right. Fuck, we're banded California.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, that jingle officially banned in California.
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  Speaker 2: I just noticed this starts with one eight seven, and
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  Speaker 2: I want to one to eight seven. That jingle.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it has been stuck in the heads of apparently
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  Speaker 1: the entire country. This Cars for Kids operates in all
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  Speaker 1: fifty states. I had somehow never heard this jingle until
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  Speaker 1: I made it to California.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. I think it's especially prevalent here because we were
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  Speaker 2: so known for like our car culture. Yeah, you know,
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  Speaker 2: I always say some California is a pretty cool place
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  Speaker 2: to be if you've got a lot of money in
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  Speaker 2: a car. If you don't have either of those things,
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  Speaker 2: don't come here.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. Absolutely. As someone without a driver's license currently, I
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  Speaker 1: can attest to that.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: No fun.
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  Speaker 2: Well, and this is the way I've come to think
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  Speaker 2: of advertising over the years is like psychological graffiti. Some
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  Speaker 2: company comes up with some goddamn jingle and they spray
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  Speaker 2: painted on the inside of your brain so that you
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  Speaker 2: can never have a moment's piece because it's always rattling
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  Speaker 2: around in there.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. Like the whopper Whopper Whopper thing.
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  Speaker 2: Oh I haven't. I haven't had that one stuck in
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  Speaker 2: my head yet, Thank God. I don't know what that is.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, Whopper, Whopper, Whopper Whopper. It was a Burger King
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  Speaker 1: jingle and it's fucking absurd, and it's the best jingle
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  Speaker 1: I've ever heard in my life.
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  Speaker 2: I have to look it up after we're done.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, and then we're gonna find out Burger King's support
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  Speaker 1: is real. Also, I mean they probably are.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, probably most corporations are in some way pro genocide.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a huge corporation, there's no doubt about it.
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  Speaker 1: But Yeah, this week we're talking about cars for kids
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  Speaker 1: and the it's not even a conspiracy, it just is true.
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  Speaker 1: This is a thing you texted me about a few
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  Speaker 1: weeks ago.
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  Speaker 2: I think, yeah, something like that, maybe a month and
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  Speaker 2: then the story broke huge. Yeah, a week and a
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  Speaker 2: half ago.
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  Speaker 1: And then John Lewis, who is sometimes on this pod,
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  Speaker 1: texted me this story about a judge in California banning
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  Speaker 1: the Cars for Kids jingle because of deceptive advertising practices. Basically,
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  Speaker 1: everyone for Time Eternal assumed you donate your car to
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  Speaker 1: this charity, they're gonna like flip it and go buy
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  Speaker 1: a hungry kid a burger.
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  Speaker 2: Exactly. It was what could be more wholeston. I don't
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  Speaker 2: have to deal with the rigamarole of taking my card
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  Speaker 2: to the junk yard or finding a buyer on Facebook,
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  Speaker 2: Marketplace or going to auto trader. You got to do
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  Speaker 2: none of that. You've got a tax deduction, and you
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  Speaker 2: got a warm, fuzzy heart knowing that you fed a
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  Speaker 2: couple of starving kids in Africa or whatever.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, but no, it turns out your donated cars were
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  Speaker 1: supporting and are supporting because it's not like this organization
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  Speaker 1: has gone away. They are supporting an Israeli group called Ourrah,
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  Speaker 1: which I've always thought was just a thing marine shout
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  Speaker 1: at each other.
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  Speaker 2: I was gonna say the exact same thing. Yeah, that
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  Speaker 2: sounds like something that a guy in a lifted truck
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  Speaker 2: would be yelling at me while I try to make
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  Speaker 2: my way back to my prius as nonchalantly as possible.
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  Speaker 1: And I'm sure it has some like Yiddish meaning or
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  Speaker 1: something that we're not privy too. How would we know.
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  Speaker 2: Is it just an acronym.
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  Speaker 1: I don't think so. I think it actually does mean something.
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  Speaker 1: But being in the United States, if I google urah meaning,
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  Speaker 1: I feel like I'm just gonna get a bunch of
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  Speaker 1: shit about the military.
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  Speaker 2: All right, I was able to find the official definition.
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  Speaker 2: According to Wikipedia, urak hiruve rakocum Incorporated means awaken and
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  Speaker 2: bring in those who are far. That sounds nice.
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  Speaker 1: That does sound nice. It's not that these funds are
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  Speaker 1: going to a Jewish organization. That is the problem in theory.
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  Speaker 1: It's what we just said. You think you're donating your
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  Speaker 1: car it's going to needy kids in your area. But no,
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  Speaker 1: it's supporting matchmaking services and gap year trips to Israel
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  Speaker 1: for Jewish teens. And we're talking like older teens, like adults,
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  Speaker 1: basically seventeen eighteen.
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  Speaker 2: Like barely kids, like technically kids.
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  Speaker 1: They are certainly not the kids fake strumming the guitars
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  Speaker 1: and pretending to play keyboards in the commercials.
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  Speaker 2: Those are the only kids outside of this bubble of
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  Speaker 2: cultural influence that have ever benefited because they probably at
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  Speaker 2: least got a day rate for doing that commercial. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: you know, eight hundred bucks or something.
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  Speaker 1: They're the only innocents in this even their parents probably knew,
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  Speaker 1: their parents knew.
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  Speaker 2: I would love to get those kids together to record
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  Speaker 2: a disc track, you know now, they're all probably like
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  Speaker 2: fourteen fifteen.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, the no vasoline of Cars for Kids jingles precisely so. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Earlier this month, a judge in Orange County ruled that
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  Speaker 1: the Cars for Kids jingle is deceptive and fails to
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  Speaker 1: disclose that funds raised by the nonprofit go to an
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  Speaker 1: Orthodox Jewish organization called oh Rah. Suit was originally brought
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  Speaker 1: by a guy named Bruce Putterball, let's say Pudderball in
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  Speaker 1: August twenty twenty one, after he learned that the donation
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  Speaker 1: he made in his home state of California actually funded
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  Speaker 1: matchmaking and gap year trips.
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  Speaker 2: Well, and what the fuck is matchmaking in this context?
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  Speaker 2: I guess they're trying to marry off these young conservative
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  Speaker 2: religious teenagers. Before they have a chance to smoke a
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  Speaker 2: joint and open their mind in any capacity.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it seems like exactly that. Also, I saw it
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  Speaker 1: mentioned that it is for the newly religious. Oh the
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  Speaker 1: fuck that me? I mean, I know what it means in.
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  Speaker 2: Theory converts recent converts. Yeah, but does that mean I
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  Speaker 2: could just head up to New Jersey, put on a
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  Speaker 2: yamaka and receive some nice bag gap year trips.
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  Speaker 1: Apparently, get some urrah strange just for converting Judaism. Quick man,
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  Speaker 1: You're like, actually, I'm out fuck it.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know if there's a lot of people
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  Speaker 2: in this organization throwing their pussy arounds. To be honest
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  Speaker 2: with you.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, they're matchmaking for you though, So that's how
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  Speaker 1: it worked.
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  Speaker 2: This is like holding hands a second base, you know,
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  Speaker 2: first base's eye contact.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, probably so.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Bruce potter Ball he came into possession of a non
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  Speaker 1: working two thousand and one Volvo XC in twenty twenty one.
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  Speaker 2: A fine station wagon.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, and who wouldn't come across that and immediately decides
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  Speaker 1: you want to take that home?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah? Everyone knows that Volvos are easy to work on.
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  Speaker 1: And he indeed did intend to fix it up and
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  Speaker 1: get it working again, but he never did, so the
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  Speaker 1: wife asked him to get rid of it.
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  Speaker 2: The old ball and chain won't let me keep my Volvo.
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  Speaker 1: Right, got a nice twenty five year old Volvo station
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  Speaker 1: wagon in the parking lot. What's wrong with that? It's
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  Speaker 1: on the grass?
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  Speaker 2: Well, I s it's not even the cool boxy one.
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  Speaker 2: There's a cool ass Vulvo boxy station wagon with a turbo.
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  Speaker 2: Not that one. Oh yeah, it's the soccer Mom edition.
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  Speaker 1: I do fuck with a Volvo. I like a Volvo.
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  Speaker 2: I want a Volvo XC thirty so bad. It's a
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  Speaker 2: little hot hash with a manual m sexy car.
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  Speaker 1: I can't do a manual transmission. I know how to
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  Speaker 1: drive it, but I can't drink and smoke at the
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  Speaker 1: same time.
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  Speaker 2: I would only get one if I had an automatic
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  Speaker 2: as well. Oh just because southern California. It's like, don't
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  Speaker 2: do that to yourself. Ideally drive a manual in soother California.
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  Speaker 2: It's a stick shift pet cruiser for like two years.
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  Speaker 2: Worst experience of my life doing road gigs done in
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  Speaker 2: San Diego, like having to fucking find the bite point
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  Speaker 2: seven thousand times, inching forward ten feet at a time brutal.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that would suck. It was after he made
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  Speaker 1: this donation. He decided to donate his two thousand and
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  Speaker 1: one Volvo XC two Cars for Kids because he had
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  Speaker 1: been here in the jingle for twenty years, just like
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  Speaker 1: the rest of us. Makes the donation and then some
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  Speaker 1: wokes goold neighbor comes to him and is like, hey, Bruce,
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  Speaker 1: I hear you donated your car to Cars for Kids.
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  Speaker 1: Did you know this is what that organization actually supports?
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  Speaker 1: And Bruce was mad enough that he took this shit
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  Speaker 1: to court.
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  Speaker 2: God bless him. Mister Smith goes to Washington.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. I think most of us would just earnestly apologize
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  Speaker 1: on social media.
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  Speaker 2: Look, I've been waiting to reveal this, but I am
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  Speaker 2: a former Cars for Kids donor, and I don't know
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  Speaker 2: what I can do at this point besides hold the
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  Speaker 2: l You know, I did not do my due diligence clearly.
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  Speaker 1: And that's the thing. These ads are so innocent looking,
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  Speaker 1: and it makes sense. Getting rid of a car you
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  Speaker 1: can't sell is a fucking hassle.
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  Speaker 2: And I'll tell you you cannot sell a two thousand
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  Speaker 2: and seven Chevy Coubalt that is gold but it's so dirty,
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  Speaker 2: it looks tan. That's a hard car to sel with
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  Speaker 2: two hundred thousand miles on it.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, and especially in CALIFORNI, people have to take into
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  Speaker 1: account that thing's got to pass emissions tests to get
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  Speaker 1: on the road. It's not like everywhere else.
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  Speaker 2: Here we got extra hoops to jump through.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, so Bruce was probably up against it too. This
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  Speaker 1: car he donated wasn't worth a ton of money, so
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  Speaker 1: he just gets rid of it. His neighbor tells him
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  Speaker 1: the bad news. Bruce takes it to court. When the
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  Speaker 1: case made it to court, Cars for Kids COO SD,
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  Speaker 1: Landau kind of just admitted everything. They were just like, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: that's that's exactly what the money supports. But in our defense,
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  Speaker 1: the ads don't say anything about our religious affiliations. That
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  Speaker 1: was the defense, And it's like that's the problem.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's the whole.
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  Speaker 1: Problem is that it doesn't say anything about the religious affiliation.
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  Speaker 2: This is kind of my approach when I get in
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  Speaker 2: trouble where I'm like, I didn't know that was wrong. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: but I.
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  Speaker 1: Come on and in court, Landau said about twenty five
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  Speaker 1: percent of the group's funding comes from California, but aside
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  Speaker 1: from an annual backpack giveaway funded through small grants, they
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  Speaker 1: have zero presence or activity in California.
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  Speaker 2: Otherwise it's just a little token gesture.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. About a quarter of the cars donated to Cars
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  Speaker 1: for Kids come from California. So Bruce had a point
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  Speaker 1: taking this to court. You do obviously think, oh, I'm
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  Speaker 1: donating a car locally to a charity. Obviously that charity
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  Speaker 1: is going to be serving kids locally. And Nope, it's
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  Speaker 1: at best serving kids in New York and New Jersey
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  Speaker 1: and sometimes kids all the way in other countries.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, and again probably just serving as a conservative religious
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  Speaker 2: slush fund.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, and even in court, Landau said the organization's primary
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  Speaker 1: purpose is not to help economically disadvantage children end quote.
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  Speaker 2: At least they're being honest.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, those kids will figure it out.
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  Speaker 2: Pull themselves up by their bootstraps. So this will give
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  Speaker 2: them some gumption, you know, some stick toitiveness.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. Instead, Landau said the primary goal of the organization
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  Speaker 1: is to help Jewish kids and families throughout their lives,
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  Speaker 1: which is exactly what you expect when you donate a
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  Speaker 1: car to Cars for Kids. I just love the damn
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  Speaker 1: tora about sixty percent of URA's funding comes from Cars
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  Speaker 1: for Kids, and the charity is URA's primary financial backer,
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  Speaker 1: contributing around forty five million dollars annually. And not only
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  Speaker 1: does the money raised from California not stay in California,
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  Speaker 1: some of it doesn't even stay in the United States.
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  Speaker 1: In twenty twenty two, URA spent four hundred and thirty
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  Speaker 1: seven thousand dollars on Middle East outreach, which I'm sure
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  Speaker 1: went great, sent another sixteen point five million to North Africa,
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  Speaker 1: and spent an additional sixteen point five million on one
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  Speaker 1: building in Israel.
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  Speaker 2: That's a lot of money, and that building is probably
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  Speaker 2: not there anymore.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, probably not.
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  Speaker 2: They're not allowed to take pictures of its smoldering remains,
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  Speaker 2: but we can make an educated guess that Iran got
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  Speaker 2: that one.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, probably so. Based on all of that, a judge
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  Speaker 1: ruled the advertising is misleading and ordered Cars for Kids
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  Speaker 1: to pay Bruce Potterbaugh restitution. Granted just restitution in the
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  Speaker 1: amount the Volvo was worth, which was two hundred and
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  Speaker 1: fifty dollars.
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  Speaker 2: Yikes, I don't know. Man parting out of Volvo station
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  Speaker 2: Wagon from two thousand and one two hundred and fifty
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  Speaker 2: bucks sounds about right. Might be a little low, but
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  Speaker 2: probably the tires are still holding there, maybe four hundred.
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  Speaker 1: But again, more importantly, it was ruled that the Cars
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  Speaker 1: for Kids jingle cannot air in California as it presently exists.
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  Speaker 1: So just another reason to come to the Golden State. Everybody,
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  Speaker 1: no Cars for Kids jingles here? Yep, we got medical
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  Speaker 1: no jingles. Yeah, seven dollars gas. It's a confusing place. Yeah. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: The weed prices it's so cheap now, it's.
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  Speaker 2: So cheap even with the incredibly high syntax.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I can buy an ounce of weed for well
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  Speaker 1: under one hundred dollars now, and that's delivered and paying tip.
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  Speaker 2: I think I'm using this word correctly. Inshalla.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, well that means God willing. I believe.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think you're right.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah, I don't know how. I don't know
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  Speaker 1: how you say.
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  Speaker 2: Hell yeah and Arabic That's what I was going for.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'll ask a Tiff Myers. What happened in California
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  Speaker 1: is just one investigation and lawsuit that's been filed against
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  Speaker 1: Cars for Kids. The organization is actually based in Lakewood,
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  Speaker 1: New Jersey, and an investigation in that state by an
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  Speaker 1: outlet called The Asberry Park Press found more alarming details
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  Speaker 1: about the organization that will be in a Springsteen song soon,
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  Speaker 1: Like how another recent federal lawsuit accused them of mail
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  Speaker 1: and wire fraud and racketeering.
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  Speaker 2: That's a really cool charge. Honestly, I would love to
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  Speaker 2: be indicted on racketeering.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it sounds so cool and mysterious too.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, like you got this back room full of fact.
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  Speaker 2: Guys in pinstripe suits spoke as of cars making deals. Yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: escaping from Bobby Kennedy's clutches as attorney General.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, you're building a racket, that's what you're doing.
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  Speaker 2: Yep.
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  Speaker 1: So forty percent of Cars for Kids revenue was spent
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  Speaker 1: on advertising, according to this New Jersey investigation, which is
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  Speaker 1: considered way above the threshold of what a nonprofit should
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  Speaker 1: spend on that kind of thing. In twenty twenty four,
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  Speaker 1: it spent more on advertising than it even gave to
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  Speaker 1: URAH forty one point five million versus thirty five point
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  Speaker 1: three million. Since two thousand and nine, three different state
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  Speaker 1: governments have found that Cars for Kids did not properly
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  Speaker 1: inform donors that they were contributing to a religious organization.
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  Speaker 1: They also found that at least half of the vehicles
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  Speaker 1: end up in junk yards, which that part's not surprising.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't find that particularly scandalous. That's what you
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  Speaker 2: do with a junked out Vulvo station wagon.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I didn't expect that they were going to take
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  Speaker 1: that Volvot upon Stars and see if Rick Harrison and
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  Speaker 1: company can get it restored and back on the road
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  Speaker 1: so they can flip it in an auction. I assume
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  Speaker 1: I just partn this shit out. Probably.
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  Speaker 2: I got really into going to junkyards when I first
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  Speaker 2: got my car, And it's honestly really fine to go
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  Speaker 2: like treasure hunting for Honda Civic hybrid wheels because they
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  Speaker 2: look cool.
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  Speaker 1: Oh yeah. When I lived in Illinois and I was
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  Speaker 1: especially poor, if I needed something replaced on my car
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  Speaker 1: to get the part, I would just drive around to
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  Speaker 1: various junk yards and ask if they had a fucking
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  Speaker 1: dead Mazda three two three somewhere back there that I
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  Speaker 1: could get an alternator off of.
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  Speaker 2: Man, that's before they had like searchable index. Now you
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  Speaker 2: can search up you know, Honda CRZ Southern California, and
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  Speaker 2: I'll tell you it's show you everyone that's in a
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  Speaker 2: junk yard.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, this was well before that. This was you had
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  Speaker 1: to navigate a fucking angry dog. You had to find
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  Speaker 1: where the office was at in the first place, you.
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  Speaker 2: Got to talk to the cranky guy in the coveralls.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, and he had to go get that alternator off
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  Speaker 1: that fucking car somewhere. But it's worth it. Saved your
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  Speaker 1: shit ton of money.
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  Speaker 2: The junkyard cause I've met the junkyard foreman guy. He's
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  Speaker 2: very much in the same vein as the angry TV
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  Speaker 2: teleprompter guy. If you ever work in television, the biggest
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  Speaker 2: dick on every set is the teleprompter guy. If you
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  Speaker 2: have to change a period to an exclamation point, he
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  Speaker 2: will sigh the biggest sigh and act like it's the
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  Speaker 2: most irritating thing in the world.
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  Speaker 1: What a bitch, Youah, easy fucking job.
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  Speaker 2: Well, you got people in your ear bugging you. I
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  Speaker 2: get it. But it's like, that's that's your gig man,
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  Speaker 2: you know.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's what you went to college for.
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  Speaker 2: Teleprompter college. Do they have that?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah? So that was all according to that New Jersey investigation.
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  Speaker 1: There's also so a Minnesota investigation that happened all of
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  Speaker 1: this about cars for kids is not recent news. It's
• 18:06
  Speaker 1: just making its way to California. Now. Back in twenty seventeen,
• 18:10
  Speaker 1: the Minnesota Attorney General's office at least a four hundred
• 18:14
  Speaker 1: plus page report about the shady practices of cars for
• 18:19
  Speaker 1: kids in that state. I didn't read the whole report,
• 18:22
  Speaker 1: but I do link to it in the show notes.
• 18:24
  Speaker 1: There are several pages of it that are redacted, which
• 18:28
  Speaker 1: I find interesting.
• 18:30
  Speaker 2: Yeah, what more is there to this?
• 18:33
  Speaker 1: And this is a report issued by the Minnesota Attorney
• 18:36
  Speaker 1: General's office.
• 18:37
  Speaker 2: Are they buying you know, fucking scud missiles for Israel? Yeah?
• 18:41
  Speaker 2: I don't even know if that's a current missile peacekeeper.
• 18:44
  Speaker 2: I think we're the only ones who have peacekeepers. No tomahawks.
• 18:46
  Speaker 2: We're the only country that has tomahawks. I think we
• 18:48
  Speaker 2: sell peacekeepers, yeah, something like that.
• 18:51
  Speaker 1: Do we even have any left?
• 18:53
  Speaker 2: I don't know. We're digging in the couch cushions now
• 18:55
  Speaker 2: for missiles.
• 18:56
  Speaker 1: We sure are?
• 18:57
  Speaker 2: We already moved there fad batteries from the from South Korea.
• 19:01
  Speaker 1: Well, it's just because we're dominating Iran so hard right now.
• 19:05
  Speaker 2: Well, we wanted we were winning, and we wanted to
• 19:07
  Speaker 2: like super win.
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, And now the straight to horror
• 19:11
  Speaker 1: moves will finally be open, just like it always was
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: before the fucking war started. Ohah, victory. So back in
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: twenty seventeen they released this report. It found that between
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: twenty twelve and twenty fourteen, Minnesotans donated more than fifty
• 19:28
  Speaker 1: eight hundred vehicles worth a total of more than three
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: million dollars to the organization, and in return, the organization
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: spent eleven thousand, six hundred dollars on helping kids in Minnesota.
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: That is quite the disparity.
• 19:42
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's that's what the uh what? On on Twitter?
• 19:45
  Speaker 1: We call it ratio And who knew Minnesota had that
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: many cars to donate?
• 19:50
  Speaker 2: Yeah? I thought they'll be rusted out.
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: Yeah yeah yeah. Which that's a classic coastal elite joke
• 19:56
  Speaker 1: for our Midwest listeners. I understand, Minneapolis is in minnesot
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: Saint Paul's in Minnesota. You got cars, It's just only
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: in those two cities everywhere else. Horse and Buggy yep,
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: I've been can confirm Blue Earth. They call it that
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: because the earth is blue, because that's what it looks
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: like when nothing walks on it or is built on it, completely.
• 20:17
  Speaker 2: Empty, untouched, by human hands. Yeah.
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: Yeah, an unincorporated civilization. Here's a quote from the report.
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: Cars for Kids acts as the fundraising arms of URAN Incorporated,
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: a New Jersey charity which shares a headquarters and staff
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: with Cars for Kids. Cars for Kids donated more than
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: forty million dollars, or over ninety percent of its actual
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: expenditures on charitable programming to Urrah from twenty twelve to
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: twenty fourteen. The charity's mission is to promote Orthodox Judaism,
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: primarily to New Jersey and New York children. End quote.
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: I feel like the whole argument here is always going
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: to be, at least from the Cars for Kids and
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: Urrah side, it's all going to be, oh, well, what
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: do you have against helping Jewish kids? And it's like, no, no, no, no, no, no,
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: that's not the point. If your jingle was one eight
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: seven seven Cars for Jewish Kids, this wouldn't be a problem.
• 21:13
  Speaker 2: The problem is that you'd hired a multicultural rainbow of children,
• 21:18
  Speaker 2: giving the viewer the impression that you are, you know,
• 21:23
  Speaker 2: blanket supporting children organizations across the country of some kind. Yeah,
• 21:27
  Speaker 2: they're providing material support to people in all kinds of communities.
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: And children who are all a good nine to ten
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: years younger than the children that this organization is actually benefiting. Hey,
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: just do that. Just put a bunch of seventeen and
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: eighteen year olds in these jingles and have them sing
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: that dorky ass Cars for Kids song. That'll turn people.
• 21:50
  Speaker 2: Off if it was about yeah, if it was a
• 21:51
  Speaker 2: bunch of nineteen year olds with ACNE, I'd be like, no, yikes,
• 21:55
  Speaker 2: I'm not giving you shit.
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: Brother, Yeah, I don't want you getting kids in your cars,
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: you fucking creaks. So a charity watchdog group also reported
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: on Cars for Kids around the same time as this
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: Minnesota Attorney General's report. Here's a quote. URA's two largest
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: programs are summer camps and tuition assistants. Two thirds of
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: participants in these programs are from New York and New Jersey.
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: Only three Minnesota children have participated in URA's summer camp
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: and tuition assistance programs as of March twenty fifteen.
• 22:28
  Speaker 2: My god, there's more Orthodox Jewish people in Minnesota than
• 22:31
  Speaker 2: I thought.
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: That is a thing. I lived in South Dakota for
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: a decade or so. I don't know that I saw
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: a single Jewish person. I don't really remember working with
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: any Asian people. There are certain segments of the Midwest
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: that are just shockingly.
• 22:51
  Speaker 2: White pockets of honkiness.
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and South Dakota is absolutely one of them, unless
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: you count reservations where they have, you know, apartheided people too.
• 23:03
  Speaker 2: Yeah, have you ever been to an Indian reservation? Oh?
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: I sure have. Yeah.
• 23:06
  Speaker 2: It blew my fucking mind going into their gas station
• 23:09
  Speaker 2: to fill up my car. I was like, I'd never
• 23:10
  Speaker 2: been in the gas station like that before. There was
• 23:12
  Speaker 2: no products, there was nothing like yeah in a wrapper.
• 23:16
  Speaker 2: It was like fresh kumquats and potatoes and shit.
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, it's a thing in South Dakota. And there
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: are still so many people in South Dakota whose stance
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: on it is, what are they so upset about We
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: gave them a bunch of land. It's like, no, we
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: didn't give them land. That's not how that worked at all.
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: We took most of the land and.
• 23:38
  Speaker 2: Let them keep some the table scraps.
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that is so very different.
• 23:44
  Speaker 2: You know what, that would be a great place to
• 23:45
  Speaker 2: send some cars for kids money, honestly, Yeah, I no shit,
• 23:49
  Speaker 2: you ever see reservation dogs. They could use some after
• 23:51
  Speaker 2: school programming.
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely, so Cars for Kids was also the subject
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: of a lawsuit in two thousand and seven after a
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: synagogue in New York clay the charity bought its building
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: secretly in order to become a tax exempt religious organization.
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: Was the Young Israel of Eltingville Orthodox Synagogue in Staten Island.
• 24:12
  Speaker 2: Ever been I make a pilgrimage every year.
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: Same They claim their former president made a secret deal
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: with Urrah to sell them the synagogue in two thousand
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: and seven, then accused UROV setting up a fake synagogue
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: based in that building to claim tax exempt status. An
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: outlet called Forward also reported that in twenty ten, Cars
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: for Kids in Urrah teamed up to lose as much
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: investing in real estate as they spent on programming and
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: operations for the entire year. In two thousand nine and
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: twenty ten, they wrote off a combined eight point two
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: five million in losses, with five point two five million
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: of that coming in twenty ten alone. Meanwhile, they only
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: spent six point three million of the twenty nine million
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: collected by Cars for Kids on program expenses during that
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: same time.
• 25:06
  Speaker 2: So there's some tax fraud going on as well.
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: It seems like tax fraud. Maybe some funny bookkeeping practices.
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: Even kids in the States, where Cars for Kids has
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: been said to help, aren't always getting the money they're promised.
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: In twenty twelve, a federal jury ruled that Urah owed
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: more than three hundred thousand dollars in scholarships to a
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: Staten Island Jewish day school.
• 25:29
  Speaker 2: You know who would have loved this. I'm kind of
• 25:31
  Speaker 2: sad because he's not around to see it. Jeffrey Epstein
• 25:34
  Speaker 2: would have loved this.
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: I wonder if we dig around enough, maybe he's involved somehow.
• 25:40
  Speaker 2: Because he was like a Jewish supremacist. There's like quotes
• 25:43
  Speaker 2: in his emails where he's like, if you need a
• 25:46
  Speaker 2: doctor or a lawyer, you gotta go jew That was
• 25:49
  Speaker 2: his words.
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: And he was also a bit of a Jewish matchmaker
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: in some sense of the word.
• 25:55
  Speaker 2: Yeah kind of yeah, set you up with an underage girl,
• 25:58
  Speaker 2: you know?
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: Yeah?
• 25:59
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: You think he had a catchy.
• 26:01
  Speaker 2: Jingle that if he had he might be alive. Yeah,
• 26:05
  Speaker 2: that's true.
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: So, like I said, they also seem to engage in
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: some questionable bookkeeping practices. They also raise funds through a
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: subsidiary called Cucumber that sells phone cards along with electric
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: telephone and gas service. Once I hear that, I know
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: you're exploiting the shit out of people. No one's selling
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: our phone cards out of the goodness of their heart.
• 26:29
  Speaker 2: I did a gig in Montana and it was it
• 26:31
  Speaker 2: was such a rural like gig in Ashland, Montana that
• 26:34
  Speaker 2: the phone still took phone cards, so me and my
• 26:37
  Speaker 2: buddy couldn't call our girlfriends. So we had we walked over.
• 26:40
  Speaker 2: There's two gas stations in town. We checked each of them.
• 26:42
  Speaker 2: They're both sold out of phone cards. So we got
• 26:45
  Speaker 2: to go to the bar and use the bar phone
• 26:47
  Speaker 2: to like call our mothers and tell them that we
• 26:49
  Speaker 2: were Okay.
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: Geez, you were doing a show there. Yeah, in Ashland, Montana.
• 26:54
  Speaker 2: It was actually one of the most mind blowing shows
• 26:56
  Speaker 2: I've ever done. There's people like from the reservation that
• 26:58
  Speaker 2: came out. Everyone that lived in the town came out.
• 27:00
  Speaker 2: This little bar called the Office was packed. I was
• 27:03
  Speaker 2: hitting on an eighty year old woman that was born
• 27:05
  Speaker 2: on the reservation named Flora.
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: That does actually sound pretty fucking rad.
• 27:10
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it was pretty magical. I wouldn't drive nineteen hours
• 27:13
  Speaker 2: to do it again.
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's wild. So I guess the phone cards thing
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: makes sense.
• 27:18
  Speaker 2: We never found them. I don't believe they exist anymore.
• 27:21
  Speaker 2: I think they're like Kuailudes.
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: In two thousand and nine, Cucumber, that company that subsidiary
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: of Urrah, recorded fifty one thousand dollars in income on
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: six hundred and forty six thousand dollars in sales, according
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: to an auditor's report submitted to the New York State
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: Attorney General. And in twenty ten, a Chinese auction that
• 27:45
  Speaker 1: the company held for high ticket items like cars and
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: trips reportedly brought in two point two million in sales,
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: but somehow operated at a six thousand dollars loss, Which
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: that's not necessarily proof that happened, but people certainly ask
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: some questions about how they're doing their books.
• 28:05
  Speaker 2: I remember on an interview with like the old school
• 28:07
  Speaker 2: Simpsons writers, and they were talking about how Fox, somehow,
• 28:10
  Speaker 2: through crazy accounting every year, manages to lie to them
• 28:12
  Speaker 2: and say they made zero dollars on Simpson's merchandise. Yeah,
• 28:16
  Speaker 2: so they've never seen a penny from it. Like, same shit.
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: Also, what the fuck is a Chinese auction yet?
• 28:21
  Speaker 2: I don't know, is it just an auction in China?
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: But see that I was thinking that for a second,
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: but there's also like Dutch auction is a thing.
• 28:29
  Speaker 2: A Chinese auction, often called a tricky tray, basket auction
• 28:33
  Speaker 2: or penny social. It's a fundraising event that combines a
• 28:35
  Speaker 2: traditional raffle with the silent auction. Attendees by tickets and
• 28:39
  Speaker 2: drop them in a dosignating containers in front of the
• 28:41
  Speaker 2: specific prizes they want to win. Oh I've seen this before.
• 28:43
  Speaker 2: Oh okay, yeah, silent auction like they do to raise
• 28:47
  Speaker 2: money and yeah, classy middle schools.
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: Yeah. One of the first times I hung out with
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: Portugal de mand, they took me to a benefit show
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: they were doing in Malibu and they got there, there
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: was a silent auction happening and one of the prizes
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: you could bid on was hanging out with Portugal man
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: for a day. And they had no fucking clue that
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: that was a thing that was being offered up at
• 29:13
  Speaker 1: this auction.
• 29:14
  Speaker 2: They were like, what, they can't not do it because
• 29:16
  Speaker 2: now they look like dis.
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, you look like a fucking asshole, So we
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: should Probably this is gonna be a shorter episode than
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: usual because there's not much to this. There's no conspiracy here.
• 29:27
  Speaker 1: We know what's happening. It's been proven. Cars for Kids
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: has admitted it. It's just slowly making its way around
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: the rest of the country.
• 29:36
  Speaker 2: And this is again my thing that like, you shouldn't
• 29:38
  Speaker 2: call things conspiracy theories. It should be like a weird
• 29:41
  Speaker 2: true thing or a crazy story from history you might
• 29:44
  Speaker 2: not have heard about, you know.
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely, And all that said, let's talk about one
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: sort of conspiracy feeling element to this, which is Oohrah's mascot,
• 29:58
  Speaker 1: which is a through a pomorphic five dollars bill called
• 30:03
  Speaker 1: five Ish. Here's the thing. If you showed me a
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: video of five ish and you were like a rabid
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: anti semi made this video, I'd be like, yeah, that
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: fucking tracks. Yeah, this looks awful. Who would make something
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: like this?
• 30:20
  Speaker 2: Jewish organization mascot is money that reeks of skinhead origin.
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: Yeah, we'll link to videos this. John Lewis sent me
• 30:31
  Speaker 1: this part. I had not heard about five ish at all,
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: and I did some digging around. I found a Reddit
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: thread where someone suggests that maybe that's the point. It's
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: on a subreddit called Jews of Conscience.
• 30:46
  Speaker 2: I'm there all the time, Yeah, me too.
• 30:49
  Speaker 1: At least one user suggests that that might be the
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: point of five Ish. Here's a quote. I'm pretty sure
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: it's deliberately embarrassing. They want to provoke anti Semitic responses
• 31:01
  Speaker 1: because it helps them in their propaganda campaign to justify
• 31:05
  Speaker 1: Israel's apartheid system. It's like when they deliberately adapt neo
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: Nazi arguments but apply them to Palestinians. They want to
• 31:13
  Speaker 1: be accused of encouraging anti Semitism. They want the debate
• 31:17
  Speaker 1: to be about anti Semitism. They want it to be
• 31:19
  Speaker 1: about anything but Israel's genocide. End quote.
• 31:23
  Speaker 2: So it's all smoking mirrors.
• 31:25
  Speaker 1: It feels like it's got to be something like that. Otherwise,
• 31:28
  Speaker 1: did no one at any part of the approval process go, hey,
• 31:33
  Speaker 1: a talking five dollars bill for a Jewish organization's mascot.
• 31:37
  Speaker 1: You get how people are going to take that?
• 31:38
  Speaker 2: Right?
• 31:39
  Speaker 1: No one brought that up. Someone had to bring that up.
• 31:41
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I guess they were so not racist they didn't
• 31:44
  Speaker 2: even think of it. Yeah, it didn't even occur to them.
• 31:47
  Speaker 1: Could be, yeah, that could be, I don't know. We
• 31:49
  Speaker 1: will link to the Adventures of five Ish, which is
• 31:52
  Speaker 1: a whole YouTube playlist. Go look at it for yourself
• 31:57
  Speaker 1: and sound off in the comments as far as what
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: you think Urah is up to with five ish, maybe
• 32:04
  Speaker 1: there's something we're missing being ignorant crackers me and Connor.
• 32:09
  Speaker 2: Yep, that's just what we identify.
• 32:11
  Speaker 1: Yeah, educate us in the comments please.
• 32:14
  Speaker 2: And also, if you're gonna make your mascot money, why
• 32:17
  Speaker 2: not make them hundy and have one hundred dollars bill?
• 32:19
  Speaker 1: Like, yeah, I guess there is a Yiddish name that
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: is similar to five ish that also comes up in
• 32:27
  Speaker 1: the reddit thread. But then there were also people replying
• 32:31
  Speaker 1: to those comments like, come on, no, that doesn't make sense.
• 32:35
  Speaker 1: It still wouldn't even if that was just a riff
• 32:37
  Speaker 1: on the name, it wouldn't make sense to make them
• 32:39
  Speaker 1: a five dollars bill. That's that's weird.
• 32:42
  Speaker 2: It's weird. It really is a brilliant way to siphon
• 32:44
  Speaker 2: money out of the general population, give a solution to
• 32:47
  Speaker 2: a headache that people, like many people have frequently, you know,
• 32:51
  Speaker 2: give them the false sense of like moral superiority by
• 32:54
  Speaker 2: making it seem like you're like helping out a bunch
• 32:56
  Speaker 2: of kids. Yeah, and then just like using the money
• 32:59
  Speaker 2: for whatever the fuck you want with thinly veiled excuses
• 33:01
  Speaker 2: and a couple token gestures to you know, your community
• 33:05
  Speaker 2: of children, and nobody else's.
• 33:07
  Speaker 1: Yeah, the big crime here is they came up with
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: the catchiest fucking jingle imaginable, because it's not like they're
• 33:13
  Speaker 1: the only organization out there that is doing weird things
• 33:17
  Speaker 1: with your charitable donations. Anytime there's a disaster, a humanitarian crisis, anything,
• 33:24
  Speaker 1: you'll eventually see lists of charities you should and should
• 33:28
  Speaker 1: not donate too, based on where they're sending your money.
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: So Cars for Kids isn't that unique in that way.
• 33:37
  Speaker 1: It's just they came up with the ketchiest fucking jingle
• 33:39
  Speaker 1: for it.
• 33:40
  Speaker 2: Do you think the guy that wrote the Cars for
• 33:41
  Speaker 2: Kids jingle feels the way that Oppenheimer felt about the
• 33:44
  Speaker 2: mom God. I wonder I would love to hear from
• 33:46
  Speaker 2: him and all this. That would be an interesting tidbit.
• 33:49
  Speaker 1: Yeah, unless he's an URRA guy maybe.
• 33:52
  Speaker 2: Yeah, maybe he's down with the mission.
• 33:54
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Also, yeah, that seems like one of those jingles.
• 33:58
  Speaker 1: And I know there's a comedian and I think who
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: has a bit about this, But that seems like another
• 34:03
  Speaker 1: of those jingles where the writer was just like, fuck,
• 34:07
  Speaker 1: I forgot I'm supposed to write a fucking jingle for this,
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: I have to pitch it in one hour. What is
• 34:13
  Speaker 1: it gonna be? These cars for kids? And it fucking works.
• 34:18
  Speaker 2: One of my finest moments in my TV writing career
• 34:20
  Speaker 2: was I had to write a song parody about the
• 34:23
  Speaker 2: rock that was like called rock This Way as a
• 34:26
  Speaker 2: as a to the tune of Walk This Way by Aerosmith. Nice.
• 34:29
  Speaker 2: And in the morning, I'm driving into work and I
• 34:31
  Speaker 2: was supposed to write the whole thing the night before,
• 34:33
  Speaker 2: but I just fucking didn't end. I'm driving into work
• 34:36
  Speaker 2: on the one on one and my boss calls me
• 34:37
  Speaker 2: and he's like, I need to hear the Rock this
• 34:39
  Speaker 2: Way song now, And I was like, okay, I only
• 34:41
  Speaker 2: had one idea, so I just went shoot Duop Duba
• 34:44
  Speaker 2: Duba Shuman and you know that his name is Dwayne
• 34:48
  Speaker 2: and he and then I take a beat, and then
• 34:50
  Speaker 2: then then my boss goes, all right, that was pretty good.
• 34:54
  Speaker 1: Nice. Yeah, That's how I knew I wanted to be
• 34:58
  Speaker 1: a writer in life. When I was in fucking grade school,
• 35:02
  Speaker 1: I had to write a book report about Martin Luther
• 35:06
  Speaker 1: King Junior, and I didn't read the book. I just
• 35:08
  Speaker 1: wrote the report based on like everything I've learned in
• 35:11
  Speaker 1: school up to that point, handed in got a fucking a.
• 35:14
  Speaker 2: There's nothing. I remember my history teacher said, there's no
• 35:16
  Speaker 2: way you can do this World War two project in
• 35:18
  Speaker 2: one weekend. You've got to be working on it for months,
• 35:21
  Speaker 2: so you can't do it in one weekend. I did
• 35:22
  Speaker 2: it in one weekend. I got a perfect fucking score. Yeah, yeah,
• 35:26
  Speaker 2: which is why I have no discipline now correct.
• 35:29
  Speaker 1: Yeah. I do everything at the last minute, as it
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  Speaker 1: turns out. Yep, not the best way, but hey we
• 35:35
  Speaker 1: get there, and hey we got here. The episode I
• 35:38
  Speaker 1: think is done. Go go look at the Adventures of
• 35:41
  Speaker 1: Fivers for yourself. You tell me what you think. Until then,
• 35:45
  Speaker 1: that's our sod Connor, thank you so much for doing
• 35:48
  Speaker 1: the pod. As always, what do we gotta plug before
• 35:52
  Speaker 1: we get out of here? I don't got a nut. Well, well,
• 35:55
  Speaker 1: if you're a Spotify subscriber, not anymore. We're not on
• 36:00
  Speaker 1: Spotify anymore. We finally moved our hosting efforts to a
• 36:05
  Speaker 1: place that doesn't run ice ads and things that the
• 36:09
  Speaker 1: like so good. I don't know if Spotify subscriptions will
• 36:14
  Speaker 1: work anymore, but if not, you can always check us
• 36:18
  Speaker 1: out at Patreon dot com, slash On pops or you
• 36:23
  Speaker 1: don't pod dot supercast dot com. If you're fucking adventurous,
• 36:27
  Speaker 1: that site seems like it's goddamn falling apart, but hey,
• 36:30
  Speaker 1: try it out see what happens. Connor, what do you
• 36:32
  Speaker 1: want to plug?
• 36:33
  Speaker 2: Uh? Unplug something a little different today? I'm gonna plug
• 36:35
  Speaker 2: my album hell Gig. It's an album where I do
• 36:38
  Speaker 2: a completely improvised CrowdWork set at a haunted hotel on
• 36:41
  Speaker 2: Sinco de Mayo and I basically get in the fight
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  Speaker 2: with the entire audience. I didn't do a single pre
• 36:46
  Speaker 2: prepared joke. It's one of my favorite performances I've ever done.
• 36:49
  Speaker 2: And you can check it out. Not on Spotify. It
• 36:51
  Speaker 2: is on Spotify, but don't check it out there. Check
• 36:53
  Speaker 2: it out on my band camp. Connor expandofmandcamp dot com.
• 36:56
  Speaker 2: Give it a listen. It's a it's a fun album.
• 36:58
  Speaker 2: It's if you want to hear what it's like to
• 37:00
  Speaker 2: do one of these weird gigs in the middle of nowhere.
• 37:01
  Speaker 2: I was talking about Nashville, Montana. This will give you
• 37:03
  Speaker 2: a window into that kind of experience.
• 37:05
  Speaker 1: That does sound fun. I'm gonna check that out. And yeah,
• 37:08
  Speaker 1: anytime someone has a band camp, get your ship there,
• 37:12
  Speaker 1: they make more money.
• 37:13
  Speaker 2: Yep.
• 37:13
  Speaker 1: It's the absolute best way to do it. So uh yeah,
• 37:17
  Speaker 1: check that out and I think that's it. Let's get
• 37:20
  Speaker 1: the fuck out of here. Connors say goodbye, goodbye, goodbye everybody.
• 37:24
  Speaker 2: We love you.