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Did ONE Juror Hijack the Lindsay Clancy Trial? (The 11-to-1 Mistrial Breakdown) · Surviving-ISH Podcast

• 0:14
  SPEAKER_00: Hey everyone, welcome to Surviving Ish.
• 0:17
  SPEAKER_00: This is gonna be a true crime topic.
• 0:20
  SPEAKER_00: So grab your coffee-ish and sit down, get comfortable.
• 0:25
  SPEAKER_00: Because I want to dive into a case that has been heavy on my mind, and I know it has your else too.
• 0:29
  SPEAKER_00: I want to talk about the Lindsey Clancy case.
• 0:32
  SPEAKER_00: Before we jump in, I want to do some legal disclaimers.
• 0:35
  SPEAKER_00: Today's episode is going to be based on some real court documents and facts from the trial.
• 0:40
  SPEAKER_00: But my takes, my observations, and the theories that we'll talk about coming from Reddit and online sluice, they're strictly my opinion, maybe opinion of others.
• 0:50
  SPEAKER_00: But whenever we talk about unproven details, remember everything is alleged.
• 0:54
  SPEAKER_00: So with that said, I want to be straight with you.
• 0:56
  SPEAKER_00: Personally, I don't think Lindsay Clancy is guilty of murder.
• 0:58
  SPEAKER_00: And I don't think she was trying to take her own life either.
• 1:01
  SPEAKER_00: And after what just happened in the courtroom, it turns out at least 11 jurors seemed to agree with me-ish.
• 1:11
  SPEAKER_00: All right.
• 1:12
  SPEAKER_00: And as I indicated to you before to declare mistrial.
• 1:17
  SPEAKER_00: So if you've been following the news, you know the Lindsay Clancy trial just ended in complete chaos.
• 1:24
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, this was seven days of deliberations, over 36 hours of uh these jurors locked in a room.
• 1:31
  SPEAKER_00: 85 witnesses took the stand, and in the end, it all collapsed into a mistrial, all because of one single juror refused to budge.
• 1:40
  SPEAKER_00: But before we pull back the curtain on that jury room, I want to do a quick recap for anyone who needs a refresher.
• 1:47
  SPEAKER_00: Lindsay Clancy is a 36-year-old laborer and delivery nurse in Duxbury, Massachusetts.
• 1:53
  SPEAKER_00: On January 24th, 2023, her young kids, Cora, Dawson, and baby Colin, tragically died inside their family home.
• 2:01
  SPEAKER_00: This all seemed to have happened in a tiny 45-minute window late in the afternoon, right while her husband Patrick stepped out to grab takeout and pick up some medicine at CBS.
• 2:11
  SPEAKER_00: So Lindsay's team never denied what happened physically, but they pled not guilty by reason of insanity.
• 2:18
  SPEAKER_00: You'll find out my opinion on that throughout this conversation.
• 2:20
  SPEAKER_00: Their argument was that Lindsay was suffering from severe sudden postpartum psychosis, and it was triggered by a broken mental health system, I agree, and a terrifying mix of prescribed psychotic drugs.
• 2:34
  SPEAKER_00: They argue she completely lost touch with the reality and couldn't tell what was right and what was wrong.
• 2:40
  SPEAKER_00: So under the law, to prove murder, the state has to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that Lindsay knew what she was doing and that it was wrong and that she had control of her actions.
• 2:52
  SPEAKER_00: The state says it was a planned murder.
• 2:55
  SPEAKER_00: The defense says she was in a psychotic state and was hearing voices.
• 2:59
  SPEAKER_00: So that's where things stand on paper, but I want us to talk about what may have actually happened behind those closed doors.
• 3:06
  SPEAKER_00: So after five weeks of brutal testimony, the 12 jurors went into deliberation.
• 3:11
  SPEAKER_00: Very quickly, 11 of them saw evidence one way, and one single male juror stood completely alone.
• 3:18
  SPEAKER_00: We don't officially know if the 11 were voting to acquit her based on insanity or if they were voting to convict, but defense attorney Kevin Reddington made it pretty clear where he thought the split was.
• 3:30
  SPEAKER_00: The jury four persons uh sent a note to the judge, and it said this one holdout juror admitted out loud that there was reasonable doubt, but he outright refused to vote not guilty.
• 3:44
  SPEAKER_00: So let's think about that for a second.
• 3:46
  SPEAKER_00: That isn't just a disagreement over facts, that's a juror refusing to follow the rules of the court.
• 3:53
  SPEAKER_00: So why would one person hold out for seven days against eleven?
• 3:57
  SPEAKER_00: You know they had to be exhausted.
• 3:59
  SPEAKER_00: So people tracking this case online have some big theories, and I I want to talk about three of them.
• 4:07
  SPEAKER_00: So some people refuse to accept postpodum psychosis as an excuse for a tragedy like this.
• 4:14
  SPEAKER_00: No matter what expert doctors say, they refuse to accept this.
• 4:18
  SPEAKER_00: To this juror, the horror of three dead children might override medical science.
• 4:23
  SPEAKER_00: In his mind, someone has to pay.
• 4:26
  SPEAKER_00: So then we have the second theory.
• 4:27
  SPEAKER_00: The prosecution kept hammering one point.
• 4:30
  SPEAKER_00: Lindsay looked up restaurant menus.
• 4:32
  SPEAKER_00: She sent her husband on an errand.
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  SPEAKER_00: She timed it.
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  SPEAKER_00: To someone who maybe doesn't understand psychosis, that looks like clear, calm planning.
• 4:41
  SPEAKER_00: If the juror locked onto that early on, no expert doctor was going to change their mind.
• 4:46
  SPEAKER_00: And then number three, Lindsay's defense lawyer openly said he felt the family was quote unquote robbed by one juror with an agenda.
• 4:54
  SPEAKER_00: This person had their true feelings just to get on the jury.
• 4:57
  SPEAKER_00: Do they want to make sure she was convicted no matter what?
• 5:00
  SPEAKER_00: When a juror admits there's a reasonable doubt but still refuses to vote not guilty, that's not deliberating.
• 5:06
  SPEAKER_00: That's holding the legal system hostage.
• 5:08
  SPEAKER_00: Okay, so now I want to look at why 11 jurors and thousands of people following this case believe there is massive reasonable doubt.
• 5:17
  SPEAKER_00: When you look closely at the evidence, the scene, and the medical records, the state's story kind of falls apart, guys.
• 5:23
  SPEAKER_00: So I want to talk about the drug mix with the lemonade.
• 5:26
  SPEAKER_00: Lindsay wasn't just dealing with postpartum depression.
• 5:29
  SPEAKER_00: Her brain was being overwhelmed with medications.
• 5:31
  SPEAKER_00: In just four months, she was prescribed 13 different psychotic drugs.
• 5:37
  SPEAKER_00: But here's the detail that the state tried to gloss over how she was taking them.
• 5:40
  SPEAKER_00: Lindsay had severe trouble swallowing pills due to extreme anxiety.
• 5:44
  SPEAKER_00: So in the weeks leading up to this, she was crushing her medication and mixing it into a glass of lemonade.
• 5:51
  SPEAKER_00: But if you ask a drug expert about crushing extended release pills and mixing them with acetic citrus, they'll tell you it's extremely dangerous.
• 5:59
  SPEAKER_00: The acid strips away the pill's time release coating.
• 6:03
  SPEAKER_00: Instead of a slow, safe dose over 24 hours, her body got hit with massive toxic spikes of medication all at once.
• 6:10
  SPEAKER_00: This can trigger severe panic, loss of reality, and violent hallucinizations.
• 6:15
  SPEAKER_00: So without knowing it, Lindsay may have been triggering drug-induced toxic spikes in her own brain every single day.
• 6:23
  SPEAKER_00: Alright, so now I want to go over the uh the wounds and the angles of the wounds.
• 6:31
  SPEAKER_00: When first responders first found Lindsay in the backyard, she had deep cuts on her wrist and her neck.
• 6:37
  SPEAKER_00: When independent doctors looked at the angle and direction of the neck wound, they noticed something strange.
• 6:42
  SPEAKER_00: The angle matched a left-handed stroke.
• 6:44
  SPEAKER_00: Here's the catch.
• 6:46
  SPEAKER_00: Lindsay's right-handed.
• 6:48
  SPEAKER_00: Her husband Patrick, on the other hand, well, he's left-handed.
• 6:52
  SPEAKER_00: For a right-handed person to cut their own throat at a specific angle is biometrically awkward and extremely rare.
• 6:59
  SPEAKER_00: So why did the wound look like it came from a left-handed person standing over her?
• 7:03
  SPEAKER_00: Why wasn't that looked into further?
• 7:05
  SPEAKER_00: So, number three, I want to talk about the impossible confession.
• 7:08
  SPEAKER_00: The state made a massive deal out of Patrick's claim that Lindsay confessed to him in her hospital room saying she had a moment of psychosis and heard a voice telling her to do it.
• 7:18
  SPEAKER_00: But look at the hospital logs.
• 7:20
  SPEAKER_00: When Lindsay arrived at the hospital, she had a broken spine, severe throat damage, and a breathing tube down her neck.
• 7:26
  SPEAKER_00: Medical staff testified under oath that during that time Lindsay physically could not speak.
• 7:31
  SPEAKER_00: How does someone with a breathing tube down their throat give a verbal confession?
• 7:36
  SPEAKER_00: And why didn't investigators push harder on that clear contradiction?
• 7:40
  SPEAKER_00: Not to mention, Patrick claims that she confessed, I believe, at the scene of the crime before the paramedics got there.
• 7:48
  SPEAKER_00: But when the paramedics arrived, she was unable to talk.
• 7:50
  SPEAKER_00: So she was able to talk before, and then once they arrived, she couldn't.
• 7:55
  SPEAKER_00: I just it doesn't make sense to me.
• 7:57
  SPEAKER_00: So so I want to talk about the crime scene.
• 8:00
  SPEAKER_00: Patrick testified that he ran to the basement and immediately started CPR on the kids, or I think at least one of them.
• 8:06
  SPEAKER_00: But when paramedics arrived, seconds later, their logs say two of the children were lying face down on their stomachs and one was on their side.
• 8:13
  SPEAKER_00: I think it's pretty much common sense to know that you cannot give CPR to somebody or do chest compressions when someone is laying on their stomach or on their side.
• 8:22
  SPEAKER_00: You have to roll them on their back.
• 8:23
  SPEAKER_00: So why were the children still face down?
• 8:26
  SPEAKER_00: And so what about Lindsay's clothing?
• 8:28
  SPEAKER_00: When she was found outside, her clothes and hair were soaked.
• 8:31
  SPEAKER_00: Like this was freezing 30-degree January weather.
• 8:35
  SPEAKER_00: Lying on the stove for 10 minutes doesn't soak heavy winter clothes like that.
• 8:39
  SPEAKER_00: So there was an outdoor spigot and hose.
• 8:42
  SPEAKER_00: Was she trying to wash off a hallucination of her skin burning?
• 8:46
  SPEAKER_00: Was she running?
• 8:47
  SPEAKER_00: Or was the scene altered?
• 8:48
  SPEAKER_00: So when you line up all these pieces, you have 13 medications crushed into acetic juice, a left-handed wound on a right-handed woman, a verbal confession from someone who physically couldn't talk, and you and you have a holdout juror who ignored the law.
• 9:03
  SPEAKER_00: So I guess you can see why the trial ended without verdict.
• 9:06
  SPEAKER_00: To be 100% clear for legal reasons, these are unproven theories and my own personal opinions based on public records.
• 9:13
  SPEAKER_00: So the district attorney at this point, I guess, now has to decide if they want to push for a second trial.
• 9:18
  SPEAKER_00: A status hearing is set for September 29th, but until then, the big question remains can the state ever prove this case beyond a reasonable doubt when physical evidence has so many red flags?
• 9:30
  SPEAKER_00: Drop your thoughts and comments below.
• 9:32
  SPEAKER_00: What do you think about the wounds, the medical logs, and that holdout juror?
• 9:36
  SPEAKER_00: Until next time, keep digging, look past the headlines and keep surviving ish.
• 9:41
  SPEAKER_00: And we'll catch you next episode.