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Joba and the Mouth 12-3-25 · NY's Sports Loud Mouth (VIDEO)

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  The New England Patriots predictably ran roughshod over
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  the hapless New York Giants on Monday Night Football in a game
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  that was full of storylines, if not real competitive football.
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  While the Patriots became the first team in the NFL to reach
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  eleven wins, the Giants found new ways to stink up the joint
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  on special teams while rookies Jackson Dart continues to take
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  big hits and Abdul Carter got benched for the second time in
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  three weeks for missing. Yet in the another team meeting
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  You know, it's been an interesting, interesting week.
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  And it's it's interesting for me because I'm always home now.
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  I've been really just relaxing, enjoying the happy life of just
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  hanging out at home and finding things to do.
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  And I'm a I'm a guy that really just likes to hang out and
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  clean. That's something that kind of
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  soothes me when I'm bored. I'm just trying to find
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  something to do. And Klene is like my, my Forte
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  is my thing. But what I've been doing over
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  the last couple of weeks is writing, and I wrote a story
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  last night. I spent almost two hours last
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  night into this morning writing a story about New York sports.
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  And if you haven't read it, I sent it out to a bunch of people
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  that listen to the show and it's going to be on ready.
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  It's going to be on so many different platforms.
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  I want everybody that is a New York sports radio fan to read
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  this story. It is a great story.
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  I'm not saying it because I wrote it.
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  I put a lot of effort, a lot of time into it.
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  And if you know me personally, you watch this show, you know
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  that every single word I used in this story was me.
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  And it's called the Funeral and Resurrection of New York Sports
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  Radio, Why the suits killed it and why voices like mine will
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  save it. And I did this not to put my put
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  myself on a pedestal. I didn't do that.
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  That's not why I wrote it and why I added that to the title.
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  I added it to the title because I've been nothing but honest
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  about New York sports and there's so much breaking news,
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  people being dropped from WFAN. McPherson decided to step down.
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  He says he wasn't fired. That's a whole nother story.
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  I don't know the inside take. Now the midday show is gone.
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  Moving Evan and Tiki to the midday show, they're bringing
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  back Craig Carton. It didn't work out with Fox, so
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  I had my own take on it and I'm not taking shots at Craig
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  Carton. Craig Carton has a big
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  following. I understand why they brought
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  Craig Carton back. What I don't understand is why
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  doesn't WF an look at other talent out there, some of the
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  new talent that brings a different view, brings a
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  different viewership to their network.
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  That was my attack in this story and I went on the INS and the
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  outs of what New York Sports was and what New York sports has
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  become and what it should be in the future.
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  And I just absolutely dropped the hammer on what I think New
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  York sports has really just passed through when it comes to
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  accomplishments that Mike Francesa, Mike and the Mad Dog
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  and what sports media and sports radio really revolutionized to
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  bring it and open up waves around the country.
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  And I had to attack it the way I attacked it.
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  And I'm not, I'm not taking shots at all the suits from ESPN
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  or WFN. And if that's the way you take
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  it, well, then you don't know me.
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  I did this because I am completely appalled by the way
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  the networks are being run right now.
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  I don't think it's right. I don't think it's right that
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  they don't look at the massive amount of great young talent
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  that is out there, that all they have to do is listen and hear it
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  and give it a chance. Even if you don't sign up for a
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  significant amount of time, have them fill in, not have your
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  producers fill in because you think, hey, this guy might have
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  a voice for this this business. How about bringing in new talent
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  that actually have a voice that actually have been doing this a
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  significant amount of time, absolutely have helped the
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  digital wave of the industry and help some of the guys in the
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  industry move up and become high profile producers for those
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  networks or high profiled personalities for those
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  networks. That's where I'm lost on the way
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  this business is being run. And that's all I'm going to say
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  about that. If you really want to check out
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  the story. I was nothing but honest.
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  I was funny. If you know who I am, you know
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  that it was my humor, my analogies, my personality all
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  stamped to one story. I didn't send it to Jabba after
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  at the end of the show, I will send it to Jabba.
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  I think people that understand what sports is and New York
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  sports is will appreciate why I did this.
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  And hopefully the suits, the directors, the producers in this
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  industry right now will take a chance and read it and
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  understand what I'm trying to say.
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  Not thinking that I was taking a shot at them, but understand
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  that this should be a more open, you know, road or open door for
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  fans and talent to take a look at what the future could be with
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  sports radio. And that's all I'm going to say
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  about that. Jabba, what's up, man?
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  How is Nebraska? It's getting cold.
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  We we got up to it was colder this morning when I got up to go
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  to the gym than it is and it's about 12° now it's going to get
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  down to probably about 3. That's just regular temperature,
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  probably windshield, probably minus teens somewhere in there.
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  So it's going to be a frosty one.
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  It'll be an ice rink outside because everything kind of
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  melted this week. We got, we got up to the upper
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  30s, so which is warm for this time.
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  And we had two inches of ice and about 3 or 4 inches of snow
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  depending on where you're at. And then?
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  Is that why you're wearing a beanie?
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  Dude, it's it's cold. Like I said, it just got colder
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  throughout the day. This one I can't put all the way
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  over. This is Carter's team.
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  But it gets too hot and it's like super warm.
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  But I got a bald skillet now, so I got to keep this thing, you
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  know, when it gets cold, I got to keep this thing warm, so.
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  There you go. It's nice and cold over there in
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  Nebraska. I would say the same here in New
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  York. It's about in the 30s and I love
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  this weather, so I'm not going to argue about it.
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  I absolutely think that this is the best weather because the
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  animals, I mean, not the animals, the insects are not
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  making sounds anymore. You can walk outside and just
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  hear dead air. It's fantastic.
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  So it's my favorite time of the year.
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  At 8:00. He will be joining us for our
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  baseball segment. Our friend Washington Nationals
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  radio play by play broadcaster Charlie Slows will be joining
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  us. We'll talk a lot of baseball
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  with him. It's his offseason, so I'm sure
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  he has his own take on what the offseason is going to be like
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  for the Yankees, the Mets, what it's transitioning into for the
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  Mets. Looks like it might be a good
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  offseason if they can get Pete Alonso sign on a dotted line,
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  Edwin Diaz, and maybe make a move for a pitcher coming out of
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  Detroit. Who knows?
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  And the story that we have to get into are the New York
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  Giants, and they are absolutely future right now.
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  The Patriots blew out the Giants on Monday Night Football 33 to
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  15 to become the first team in the NFL to win 11 games.
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  It was also their tenth straight win, putting the Patriots into
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  the number one seed in the AFC, 1/2 of a game ahead of the
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  Broncos. The Giants head into their bye
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  week at 2:00 and 11:00, second worst in the NFL behind only the
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  Titans. Drake May is now the betting
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  favorite at -135 to win the 2025 MVP, moving slightly ahead of
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  Matthew Stafford, which is a + 125 in the odds.
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  In what Vegas is saying is basically a two man race for the
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  award. DAC Prescott is a distant third
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  at 15 to 1, with Jordan Love 4th at 19 to 1.
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  Mike Frabel, in his first year with the Patriots, is also the
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  favorite to win Coach of the year this season.
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  He then took shots at the Giants GM Joe Shane, who cut defensive
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  tackle Corey Durden during the preseason, only for him to be
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  the 18th best defensive tackle in the NFL by PFF Standard for
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  the Patriots. Jackson Dart took another big
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  hit going out of bounds, but said after the game.
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  This is football. We're not playing soccer out
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  here. You're going to get hit.
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  The Giants other first round pick, Abdul Carter was benched
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  for the first quarter after missing yet another team
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  meeting. Apparently this has been an
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  issue for Carter all season. That led to fines from former
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  coach Brian Dabel and two benchings in three games.
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  Now I don't know what's going on with Abdul Carter.
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  I, I don't know. But in the offseason, the Giants
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  are going to have to figure this out because whoever they bring
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  in, if they can't control this kid, you're going to have to
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  move them. You can't control a kid because
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  he thinks he's that much better than his position and where he
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  is on the team. Then he doesn't fit with the
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  Giants. He doesn't fit the Giants
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  culture. Mara needs to step in.
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  He needs to sit down with this kid in the offseason and figure
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  out what is going on in his, I guess, little P brain because
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  you're playing for an organization that's been around
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  a very, very long time that's had so many great, talented pass
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  rushers. Abdul Carter was expected to be
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  one of the best players in this class.
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  He's looked good up and down this year.
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  He's had his good games and he's had his games.
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  He's disappeared. His excuses after the game to me
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  are null and void. I could care less what he has to
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  say. You don't show up till practice.
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  I don't care who the coach is. You have to figure out what your
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  priorities are. Your priorities are team.
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  It's not me. And if it's a me thing, he is
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  not going to fit the culture of what the Giants like to draw to
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  their reputation. I I know the Mara family.
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  I don't know personally, but I've met John Mara before, I've
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  met Steve Tisch. They seem like straightforward
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  guys and they believe in that old style of football, teamwork,
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  football and ownership has to step in and have a conversation
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  with this kid. If he thinks he's bigger than
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  the game, he's not going to fit moving forward.
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  As far as the Giants protecting Jackson Dart, well, they need to
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  figure this out in the offseason because they're going to be a
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  high draft pick. Are they going to trade down or
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  are they going to stay pat at #2 or #3 If they say pat, they get
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  the best offensive lineman in this class.
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  They're going to have to look at The Jets.
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  Say whatever you want about The Jets team as a whole this year,
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  their offensive line has been their strength.
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  What did they do at #7? I think it was #7 they went
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  after Membo. Membo has been one of the best
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  offensive lineman in all of football.
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  Made some mistakes this past week.
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  Nevertheless, he's been one of the more precision persistent
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  and as the most precision at the right tackle position in the
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  whole league in PFFI think he's ranked in the top ten in almost
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  every single statistic. The Giants have.
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  Thomas who can't stay healthy. The Giants need to figure out
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  what they're going to do on that right side.
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  Or are they going to move Thomas to the right side because of his
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  health issue? Jackson Dart is been the only
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  bright side to all of this. The guy goes out there, he plays
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  hard. He needs to figure out how to
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  stop running and putting himself in harm's way.
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  He looks like Mark Sanchez was in his first two years with the
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  New York Jets, as we all know. How do you?
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  How do you tell a kid to stop knowing the game that he's
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  playing? I feel like that's when they get
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  really hurt. I don't know.
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  I I think obviously whoever they bring in as their head coach is
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  going to have to sit down with him and say, listen, you want to
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  have a long lasting career or do you want to have a five year
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  career? Think about it.
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  And I think. We we, we talked about that too
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  before kind of touching on it. But I get like how he wants to
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  play, but man, if you're going to keep doing that, it's you're
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  going to you're not going to be the guy you want to be because
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  you just, you can't withstand that.
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  I mean, I obviously never played at that position or at that
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  level, but I don't want to get, I don't even want to hear the
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  sound of it like, let alone have it happen to me over and over
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  again. I would agree with you, Jabba.
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  And I think obviously the organization needs to figure out
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  first who the coach is going to be and then the offensive
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  coordinator and then figure out how they're going to build this
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  kids confidence in the pocket. We've seen this with Lamar
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  Jackson. When he came into the league,
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  everybody thought he was going to be run, run, run.
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  He figured out how to throw the ball and be more completion
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  ready as a quarterback. And once he figured that out, I
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  think Lamar Jackson became more of the one of the more efficient
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  quarterbacks in the league stepping into the pocket and
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  making the throws. But as far as the the Drake may
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  saga and the the thought that he is going to be the MVP, he is
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  not the MVP of the league. I'm sorry, I don't care what
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  Vegas says, he can win out his games and he probably will
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  because the schedule is just absolutely easy.
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  If you look at the way the schedule is set up, this is the
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  third easiest schedule in NFL history, third in NFL history.
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  Think about that and you're going to give a guy that has one
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  of the easiest schedules in the NFL the MVP.
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  I'm not taking shots at Drake May.
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  I think he's had a sensational year.
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  Is he a top five quarterback? Absolutely.
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  Mikey C was right about this. He he is a top five quarterback.
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  There's no question that he is, but would he be a top five
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  quarterback if his schedule was like, I don't know, Matthew
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  Stafford's Matthew Stafford had a bad game this past week
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  against Carolina. No question that he did.
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  But Matthew Stafford never throws 3 interceptions in a
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  game. I don't think I, I don't even
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  remember the last game he threw into 3 interceptions in a game.
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  So that was, to me, just a shocker and he was the favorite.
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  Now all of a sudden, Drake May beats the Giants A-Team.
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  That's absolutely horrible. And we've seen the way they've
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  played over the last couple of weeks.
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  Even with Kafka taking over for Gable, we're going to sit here
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  today and think that Drake May is the MVP of the National
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  Football League. Ridiculous.
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  Dick Vrabel is Vrabel is the coach of the year.
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  I don't think you could argue that him or McDonald.
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  McDonald's been sensational this year.
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  I can't take any any confidence away from what McDonald has
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  built over there with the Seattle Seahawks and he's got a
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  lot of confidence over there. I think the team has built a
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  great reputation offensively, one of the more precision
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  persistent and has so much precision over there
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  offensively. And this is a defensive minded
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  coach that's really transitioned.
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  Everybody says that defensive coaches can't succeed as an
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  offensive and defensive guy, while McDonald has proven that
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  that is not a fact. But I'm going to tell you this
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  right now. The Patriots, they are on a
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  streak. They've won 10 games in a row.
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  But the way their schedule is set up, is this going to benefit
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  them when they get into the playoffs and they're matched up
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  against one of the better teams in the AFCI?
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  Don't know because I don't care. And by the way, there were a lot
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  of cheap shots in that game by the Patriots, a lot of cheap
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  shots at Jackson Dart. There was a lot of talking at
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  the line of scrimmage, defensive tackles speaking to Jackson Dart
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  when he was trying to get up. I think Jackson Dart was pretty,
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  you know, pretty adamant on after the game.
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  He says this is football and and and this is the way the game is
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  played. But they the Patriots were head
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  hunting. They were trying to hurt him.
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  And in the Giants, who have been an organization that obviously
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  have players that stick up for their quarterback, we've seen
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  Eli Manning over the years get pulverized by teams and then you
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  see Michael Strahan or you would see, I don't know, Justin Tuck
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  or OCU Manor or one of these guys come to his defense.
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  I've seen it many, many times. Remember Antoine Roll?
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  I I remember he got Eli Manning in one game, got head head
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  haunted and Antoine Roll went after one of the safeties that
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  did it in the game. So after the after the game, he
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  went after him. So there there are things that
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  you do in football that obviously gives you the
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  confidence and shows that you're you're you're backing up your
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  player. And I don't think the Giants
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  have done that enough this year for Jackson Dart.
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  I think he he has to, he has to be more of a leader and not sit
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  back and say this is football. I understand what he's trying to
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  do. But if if I'm at the media and
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  I'm speaking to the media, I know I'm being attacked and
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  these guys are talking crap all game long at me.
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  You can see it on television and you can see how many memes have
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  been out there of the Patriots doing it.
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  And nobody's protecting him. Nobody on the Giants offensive
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  line was protecting when they were going on.
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  They were laying on top of him and you see one of the defensive
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  tackles getting up and still talking crap and nobody's
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  getting in his face. You cannot do that.
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  You got to get you got to take these guys by their necks and
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  tell him you felt you F with my quarterback.
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  I'm going to beat the hell out of you.
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  And it just, it just to me, it doesn't show the confidence.
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  And if I was, if I was Jackson, I'd be deathly afraid if I have
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  an offensive line that's not protecting me the way they
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  should. As far as where the Broncos are,
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  the Broncos are probably the worst second place team.
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  And I think the Patriots are the worst first place team we've
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  ever seen. And that doesn't take away what
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  they're doing this year that just really the the Patriots
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  schedule has been horrible and the Broncos have won more games
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  with with three or less points than any team in football.
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  Their offense is horrible. Payton and Sean Payton's
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  supposed to be the mastermind of offensive, the offensive style
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  of game. Him and Andy Reid are the
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  specifically the the smartest guys and Sean McVay and and to
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  me, the offense has been horrible, but the defense has
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  been absolutely unbelievable, even without Patrick Surtain
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  being 100% healthy. And Jack Prescott deserves a
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  little bit more love than third place.
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  I'm sorry, I and I think he's been as good as any one of these
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  quarterbacks with all the losses and and losing Michael Parsons
• 21:44
  in the beginning of the season, all the tax, new coach,
• 21:47
  everybody attacking this guy all off season because of the the
• 21:51
  Patriots, The Cowboys gave him a $60 million contract extension.
• 21:56
  Everybody saying he's not worth it.
• 21:57
  Jerry Jones doesn't know what he's doing.
• 21:59
  He's senile. And they bring in one guy that a
• 22:02
  lot of people thought they can control.
• 22:04
  And by the way, they have and, and George Pickens, who's been
• 22:07
  become one of the top three top four wide receivers in the
• 22:09
  league this year. I mean, you have to give Dak
• 22:12
  Prescott a little bit more love for that.
• 22:16
  I think I think they are like that everything that obviously
• 22:19
  we've been saying, I showed you specifically and it's like
• 22:22
  everybody kind is that. I think that the common
• 22:25
  denominator is like he does deserve more respect and he's
• 22:28
  always in the conversation. It's like we talk about with
• 22:31
  poops. He's always the bridesmaid,
• 22:33
  never the bride and he's always in the conversation and listen
• 22:37
  to shows this morning off and on.
• 22:38
  It's kind of what everybody says and what we've been saying is
• 22:41
  like he needs to deserve a little bit more love for what
• 22:44
  he's done in the last five years.
• 22:46
  But everybody's like I I think we do, but he's always in the
• 22:49
  conversation. He's just not like the
• 22:51
  conversation and I it's, it's kind of unfair.
• 22:54
  Does he probably really care? Not really.
• 22:56
  But I do think he needs more love.
• 22:59
  And I think it's being shown. It's just it's not to like what
• 23:03
  it should be for the things that he's done on the field.
• 23:06
  Speedy, I I know you're a Giant fan and you've watched the
• 23:11
  Giants your whole life and your root Big Blue, and you watched
• 23:15
  your quarterback get pulverized in a game and by the way, their
• 23:17
  kicker coup, whatever you whatever.
• 23:20
  That was embarrassing, by the way.
• 23:21
  Absolutely embarrassing. Actually, it doesn't count as a
• 23:24
  missed field goal. Though he was still 1, he was
• 23:26
  still perfect for the day. I don't know, maybe maybe he
• 23:28
  thought he was doing some kind of ballerina move because that
• 23:32
  was absolutely, that was probably the worst thing I've
• 23:34
  ever seen a kicker do in a game. I've never seen something like
• 23:38
  that before in my life. You're up there and all you're
• 23:40
  supposed to do is kick the ball and you kick your foot into the
• 23:45
  dirt. That's what you did.
• 23:47
  And you stood there looking and all you could see is Jackson
• 23:50
  Dart's face and say, and I read his lips, are you effing kidding
• 23:54
  me? I mean, think about it.
• 23:55
  If you look at Jackson Dart's view when they had when the
• 23:59
  cameras on him, he was like shaking his head.
• 24:01
  Are you effing kidding me? I mean, I don't think that would
• 24:04
  have helped the Giants, but what an embarrassment that is.
• 24:08
  Just so embarrassing. Any Giant fan watching it
• 24:10
  probably were like what the hell?
• 24:12
  I would have absolutely completely dropped him after the
• 24:15
  game. OK, you're done, you're done.
• 24:17
  I don't want to see you. I've seen enough of you, you
• 24:19
  memes. Were great What?
• 24:20
  Is this last name? What is this like, cool?
• 24:22
  I want to say we're done with cool.
• 24:25
  You all right, cuckoo? Kudalu.
• 24:27
  He's cuckoo for Cocoa Puffs. Or something.
• 24:30
  That was a good one, Speedy. That's.
• 24:32
  A good one. Yeah, well, anyways.
• 24:34
  Good. I was going to say that the the
• 24:35
  Daniel Jones slipping on his feet blooper will be, I guess,
• 24:38
  lost in infamy as long as that what's going to go on for
• 24:41
  another 10 years. But going back to your scene
• 24:43
  with Dart, though, yeah, he's got to learn how to be able to
• 24:45
  slide and protect himself a lot better than he has to.
• 24:47
  Reminds me of Mark Sanchez. Yeah, it's definitely not ideal.
• 24:51
  You saw Cam Newton do that at the beginning of his career too,
• 24:53
  when he tried to power. It let's call Aaron Boone.
• 24:56
  Maybe they should, but nevertheless, they yes, it's an
• 24:58
  instinctual thing that Dart has to figure out how to play
• 25:01
  because yes, the offensive line is bad, but a lot of the hits
• 25:03
  that he's taking are also outside the pocket when he's
• 25:05
  running or rolling out too. And that's on him or and or the
• 25:08
  play calling because yes, Brian Dabel definitely affected some
• 25:11
  of it too, and that was a big reason he got fired as well.
• 25:13
  But now you're doing with a second coach too.
• 25:14
  And now the issues come to a rookie quarterback.
• 25:17
  Is he? Yeah, he's a rookie.
• 25:18
  He deserves a little bit of a pass.
• 25:19
  Understandable. But he's going to have to learn
• 25:21
  that if he wants to play a long enough career as a franchise
• 25:23
  quarterback, Abdul Carter, he's going to have to learn how to
• 25:25
  show up to meeting sometimes. He's going to have to learn how
• 25:27
  to do some of the things that Kayvon learn from what Kayvon
• 25:31
  Thibodeau did wrong his rookie year, too, because he was doing
• 25:32
  a lot of crap like that too, and that was the reason he didn't.
• 25:34
  Develop. This is worse.
• 25:35
  This might this definitely looks worse because now he's doing
• 25:38
  with two different coaching Staffs now and he's a he's a guy
• 25:41
  that was a highly more talented prospect and Thibodeau had some
• 25:44
  flare like flashy personalities out of his career out of Oregon.
• 25:49
  Carter was not thought of that way to the same extent.
• 25:52
  And he was supposed to be that good leader, that good defensive
• 25:54
  leader as a youngster. And now you're seeing all this
• 25:57
  stuff. You can't blame Dabel on that
• 25:59
  forever. Now you're doing it three
• 26:00
  different times as in that case. Patriots, yeah, they're playing
• 26:04
  an easy schedule. They're pretty well-rounded
• 26:06
  team, but yet nothing special overall.
• 26:07
  Their offensive still players are still kind of a question
• 26:10
  mark. Defense still has some areas in
• 26:11
  key positions where I agree with you.
• 26:13
  They're kind of like the third or fourth team I would trust in
• 26:15
  the AFC right now. Drake May is definitely second
• 26:17
  for MVP. But like you said, Stafford's
• 26:19
  played a harder schedule. He just threw his first
• 26:20
  interception in 28 gate 28 to 28 touchdowns in that game against
• 26:25
  the Panthers. I, I will say this and for all
• 26:28
  the fans out there that are Giant fans, you have to
• 26:32
  understand that the Giants have always been the, the epitome of
• 26:37
  respect and, and Tom Coughlin and Bill Parcells, they drew the
• 26:41
  line from players like this. Abdul Carter would never last on
• 26:45
  any of those teams. As a matter of fact, Bill
• 26:47
  Parcells would have said to him, go home, get off the field.
• 26:50
  Tom Coughlin would have sent him home during the game.
• 26:54
  I mean, this is an embarrassment.
• 26:55
  You know you know what though, Errol?
• 26:57
  None of those teams were two and 11.
• 26:59
  It's I, I get it. And I'm pissed off about it too
• 27:02
  as a Giants fan. Don't make any excuse for him.
• 27:05
  Don't make any excuses for him. I'm going to.
• 27:07
  I'm just going to throw it out there.
• 27:09
  There's no leadership on this team.
• 27:11
  If you can't get your top guy that you drafted to buy in, it's
• 27:16
  just as simple as that. It's embarrassing.
• 27:19
  They I mean, the variable calling out Joe Shane thing I
• 27:22
  loved, you know, variable even goes, you know, the Giant, he
• 27:25
  had a quote. He goes the giants didn't think
• 27:27
  he was good enough to be a Giant.
• 27:29
  We think he's good enough to be a Patriot.
• 27:31
  And now he's a top 20 defensive tackle in the NFL.
• 27:34
  It's unbelievable the amount of mistakes Shane's made with that
• 27:36
  roster. It's look, you could you could
• 27:39
  say about Thibodeau and them, you know, just not being that
• 27:42
  good. But the offensive line, Errol,
• 27:44
  I'm going to I'm going to defend the offensive line.
• 27:46
  It's the best unit on the team. They're a top 15 offensive line
• 27:50
  in the all of the NFL since Andrew Thomas came back to the
• 27:52
  league. He's ranked third in the NFL and
• 27:55
  PFF score for offensive tackles. Not taking shots in Andrew
• 27:58
  Thomas. Well, I'm he's he's the best,
• 28:02
  you know, like he's not as a need to switch to the right
• 28:04
  side. Illuminor's fine.
• 28:05
  On the road, it's health. I would move him to the right
• 28:07
  side. They don't need to draft a
• 28:09
  tackle at 2 is my point. There's no no reason for it.
• 28:13
  They need to trade the hell down if they're going to buy into
• 28:16
  Jackson Dart. That's the obvious thing to do
• 28:19
  and get a bunch of assets for the future.
• 28:21
  I just want to throw a little bit of love to the Giants
• 28:24
  offensive line because there's nothing else to throw love
• 28:26
  behind. I was watching that coup kick in
• 28:28
  the middle of the show on Monday, Errol.
• 28:30
  I almost threw up in the middle of the shot.
• 28:31
  I couldn't believe what I was watching.
• 28:34
  I I mean, I, I coach kickers for, for high school football.
• 28:38
  I've never even seen one of my kids do that.
• 28:40
  It's this guy's got like the Chuck Knobloch level yips.
• 28:45
  And with that baseball reference, we have a guest in
• 28:48
  Errol. We do and, and before we go, we
• 28:51
  invite him in. I want to say one more thing
• 28:52
  about the Giants game and we'll get Charlie in.
• 28:56
  I I have to say this because I know you're all Giant fans.
• 29:00
  I know Fish, you're a Giant fan. I know Speedy, you're a Giant
• 29:03
  fan. And I know Mr. Poops is a Giant
• 29:05
  fan. You cannot make any excuses for
• 29:08
  Abdul Carter. There is no reason to make
• 29:12
  excuses for a guy that is supposedly supposed to be a
• 29:15
  leader. He was a leader at Penn State.
• 29:17
  Penn State, there was up and downs when he was there last
• 29:20
  year. No matter what was going on with
• 29:22
  Penn State, he was a leader there.
• 29:25
  And you're going to go out there and you're going to make
• 29:26
  excuses. There's no leadership here, OK?
• 29:28
  There's no leadership with the Giants.
• 29:30
  That's fine. You're you're the number one
• 29:32
  pick for the New York Giants this past year.
• 29:35
  You were the, what, 3rd pick of the draft and you were supposed
• 29:38
  to be the most coveted talented player in this class and you're
• 29:42
  going to go out there, not show up to practices, not show up to
• 29:44
  team meetings, do whatever you want because you think you're
• 29:47
  bigger than the team. I'm sorry.
• 29:48
  There's no excuse to that. And you can't make excuses to
• 29:51
  that. And that's all I'm going to say
• 29:53
  about that. And I am tired of hearing Giant
• 29:55
  fans make excuses for any player, just like I don't make
• 29:58
  any excuses for Jet players for what we've seen over the years.
• 30:01
  Garrett Garrett Wilson was one that dropped a hammer on Source
• 30:05
  Garner this year and Quinton Williams.
• 30:07
  And where are they right now playing for different teams.
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  Right, Charlie, welcome to our segment Inside Baseball.
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  Thanks for humouring us tonight. We got a bunch of topics we'd
• 32:34
  like you to have some input on going on in the early offseason
• 32:39
  here so far this year. So let's get into the Inside
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  Baseball viewpoint here and we'll get it going with our
• 32:47
  first topic tonight. And we should have the music
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  going. Anyone second, Tommy doesn't,
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  doesn't. I'm not.
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  Doing any? Freaking tag team.
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  There we go, we got it. Here it is.
• 32:59
  The Mets have given Devin Williams quite a large contract.
• 33:05
  Three years, 51,000,006 million of which is a signing bonus.
• 33:10
  So it's really three years, 45,000,000.
• 33:12
  No opt outs or options deferred over the span of three years for
• 33:16
  that signing bonus. So Williams follows Juan Soto as
• 33:19
  Yankees acquisitions who bolted for Uncle Stevie's money over in
• 33:22
  Queens the last two years. Advanced Analytics say Williams
• 33:26
  was very unlucky last year and should have been much better
• 33:29
  than he was. That's kind of funny because I
• 33:31
  remember him being mostly horrendous for a team that
• 33:34
  needed him to be much better than that.
• 33:36
  I'm sure it'll work out for the Mets, though.
• 33:39
  Errol. I love it.
• 33:41
  I think it's great for the Mets. Edwin Diaz has a chance to be a
• 33:44
  Met too. I think the Mets will re sign
• 33:46
  him. And then you have probably the
• 33:48
  best 1-2 punch in baseball in your bullpen.
• 33:51
  I I think Devin Williams was very unlucky last year.
• 33:54
  Now you just got to get Pete Alonzo signed to the dotted line
• 33:57
  and then maybe you make a run for scuba.
• 34:00
  I think it makes a lot of sense for the Mets rotation.
• 34:02
  You will add scuba and Devin Williams and you bring back Pete
• 34:06
  Alonzo and Edwin Diaz. I think you have the best summer
• 34:11
  out there. I think it's a slam dunk for the
• 34:13
  New York Mets. I think they have to sign Diaz.
• 34:15
  I mean, he's the guy that's really proven.
• 34:17
  I mean, Williams best days in the big leagues really one year
• 34:21
  as a as a closure before that a setup guy.
• 34:24
  And he had a lot of issues last year pitching for the Yankees.
• 34:27
  And I guess you put me in the category of being old when you
• 34:31
  mentioned that he was unlucky based on expected stats.
• 34:36
  So I'm going to throw a question at Java.
• 34:38
  Don't you wish when you were playing your your agent could
• 34:41
  negotiate a deal on expected stats versus what actually
• 34:46
  happened? I mean, now when a hitter's
• 34:50
  getting credit for a ball is hit and it doesn't matter if it's
• 34:53
  caught or not, I mean, it's expected stats now mean more
• 34:57
  than what actually happens. Yeah, it's it's weird too.
• 35:01
  And if you go even a step further, Charlie too, it's like,
• 35:04
  OK, he got out, but his exit velocity and all the other stuff
• 35:07
  that they they have. And it's like, then they
• 35:09
  translate it to Parks and he would actually hit 10 more
• 35:12
  homers or whatever. And, you know, a lot of pitchers
• 35:14
  are doing that with like, their vertical and horizontal rise on
• 35:17
  certain mounds when they look at like, hey, I pitched better
• 35:21
  here. And then now they're doing the
• 35:22
  analytics of the way the mound sits and this, which is way
• 35:25
  above my pay grade. I don't know how they do that or
• 35:28
  whatever. And now on the scoreboard, you
• 35:29
  can see it as it happens. But yeah, I just, I don't know
• 35:32
  how to quantify the fact. It's like, OK, I'm getting
• 35:35
  credit for being kind of good, but it didn't really do I I
• 35:39
  think it's a great sign for both in the in the way they kind of
• 35:44
  structured the deal, obviously. And it's not like anything is
• 35:47
  going to catch him off guard now just because the Mets are a
• 35:50
  little different than the Yankees, but not as much as
• 35:52
  going from Milwaukee to New York and and especially with the
• 35:55
  Yankees. So I think it's great, too.
• 35:58
  And then I think for him, he's not going to have all the
• 36:00
  pressure if they do sign Diaz back.
• 36:02
  If they don't, that's we could be having a different
• 36:04
  conversation when it comes down to what happens at the end of
• 36:07
  the game. You think the expected stats are
• 36:09
  going to matter for Kyle Schwarber?
• 36:11
  I don't think so. I think he's just doing a yes, I
• 36:15
  was going to mention the expected stats too, because the
• 36:17
  Brewers were kind of skewed the other way.
• 36:19
  Like I think in that in that park, and Charlie, I know you've
• 36:22
  broadcasted a lot of games there too.
• 36:23
  You could mostly turn into a pitcher's park.
• 36:25
  Sometimes when the roof is closed, it could be open and
• 36:27
  then it could be a hitter's park again.
• 36:29
  So it could fluctuate with that. With the Yankees, it's the other
• 36:31
  extreme and all the AL ES ballparks, the other extreme.
• 36:33
  Now the Mets, it's a different case where they're mostly a
• 36:35
  pitcher's park. The Phillies are a big hitter's
• 36:37
  park. The Braves kind of fluctuate.
• 36:39
  So I think it's going to kind of cancel out in a way.
• 36:41
  So again, I agree with you, Charlie.
• 36:43
  I think they do have to lock up Diaz too.
• 36:45
  If they don't do that, then it doesn't look as good doing both.
• 36:49
  But I think for the deferred money, for the overall money
• 36:52
  he's getting with the signing bonus instead of the base
• 36:53
  salary, I think it's good. I think the success with him in
• 36:56
  the National League makes a lot of sense why he went back to the
• 36:59
  National League and now I want to say in the American League
• 37:01
  East, because he was one of the best relief pitchers in all the
• 37:04
  baseball in the National League, and he became one of the worst
• 37:08
  relief pitchers in baseball in the American League.
• 37:10
  So I think he just wanted to jump ship.
• 37:12
  He wanted to get the hell out of the American League.
• 37:14
  I wonder this, I don't know this, this is a better question
• 37:16
  for our baseball experts here. If it isn't something where if
• 37:20
  you're a change up pitcher, like he's a change up pitcher, the
• 37:22
  Airbender, if he can't place his fastball, the change up's not
• 37:27
  going to work. So is it just a matter of him
• 37:30
  just fixing the mechanics on the fastball enough that he can
• 37:34
  place it to get the change up, which is apparently still fine
• 37:37
  according to those metrics and stuff rates to get back to it so
• 37:41
  that he can be effective for the Mets as a setup man for Diaz if
• 37:44
  they resign Diaz? Yeah, I mean, they play off each
• 37:49
  other and I think that's any pitcher where if that's your
• 37:53
  strength, you always like everything goes with that.
• 37:56
  Like if I couldn't throw my fastball, for me, I would spin a
• 37:59
  slider because it'd get me back over.
• 38:01
  And for him, I couldn't, I couldn't throw a change up with
• 38:03
  my life depended on it. So I, I can't tell you how I
• 38:06
  tried everything under the sun to try and do it.
• 38:08
  But for him, it's like he just has to be somewhere in the
• 38:11
  vicinity because the metrics on his board horizontal and
• 38:15
  vertical with his change up and how he's able to over pronate
• 38:18
  because you naturally pronate on a baseball.
• 38:20
  And what did he just has to be somewhere near the zone of this
• 38:22
  fastball. And we seem to be as high as
• 38:25
  9798, but we also saw it saw it at 9293, which it doesn't really
• 38:30
  matter because it comes out of the same slot.
• 38:32
  So you're going to have like that one pitch that gets you
• 38:35
  there. And for him, his fastball just
• 38:38
  has to be somewhere in the vicinity for his change up to
• 38:41
  work. Because it's not like the same
• 38:43
  as Trevor Hoffman, who didn't need anything else, right?
• 38:46
  All I mean he just threw change up after change up.
• 38:49
  I guess we'll find out if he can get it squared away.
• 38:52
  Let's move on to our next set of signings.
• 38:55
  And this one is related because it's a now former Mets hopeful
• 39:00
  late inning reliever Ryan Helsley, who gets a two year $28
• 39:05
  million deal from the Baltimore Orioles.
• 39:08
  Jeff Fashion reports the Orioles signed Ryan Helsley to A2 year
• 39:10
  $28 million deal with an OPT out after the first year.
• 39:14
  Ports say Tigers and Cubs were interested in signing Helsley
• 39:17
  and converting him to a starter. Helsley's another one of those
• 39:20
  advanced analytics darlings because of his stuff metrics,
• 39:24
  particularly his fastball. But again, this time the Mets
• 39:27
  fans who saw him be borderline unplayable last year after they
• 39:31
  acquired him at the deadline. Borderline might be generous a
• 39:33
  lot. Of guys get traded middle of the
• 39:35
  year, don't have big impacts on on their new club, but he had
• 39:38
  one of the most negative impacts of a guy being traded at the
• 39:42
  deadline over those final two months of the season.
• 39:44
  But it's all being attributed to that.
• 39:46
  He was tipping pitches and it took him a long time to figure
• 39:49
  it out. But he thinks he has figured it
• 39:51
  out. And I guess the Orioles believe
• 39:53
  it or they wouldn't be putting this money up front.
• 39:56
  They think he's going to be the pitcher that had great success
• 39:58
  with the Cardinals. I think the Mets are getting
• 40:00
  slapped in the face because they gave up all these prospects and
• 40:04
  it didn't turn around for them. He didn't do nothing for him.
• 40:07
  He was horrible. I think his ERA at one point was
• 40:10
  over 10. He was Devin Williams of the New
• 40:13
  York Yankees early in the season.
• 40:15
  Devin Williams got better in the second-half.
• 40:17
  Helsley was traded in the going into the second-half at the
• 40:21
  trade deadline and just. I don't know, I honestly think
• 40:25
  the Mets should have just sent him down to AAA because he he
• 40:29
  was playing like a AAA pitcher. So I don't know what he's going
• 40:32
  to be with the Orioles. He is jumping to the American
• 40:36
  League East with power teams like Boston, the Yankees, the
• 40:39
  Rays. I wasn't bold.
• 40:42
  Well for him and he maybe he should talk to Devin Williams
• 40:45
  because it seems like it's a transition from one to the
• 40:48
  other. I, I would say I would hope that
• 40:51
  Halsey looks a lot better this year in the American League
• 40:54
  East. I bet.
• 40:55
  I would say don't bet on it. Yeah, as as annoying as I could
• 41:00
  be with the Mets and what it was, I will be objective and say
• 41:02
  his peak value was still very strong.
• 41:04
  He was just he's kind of one of those year to year.
• 41:06
  Like he's very good in some of his peak years.
• 41:09
  That 2021 year with the Cardinals when they had that big
• 41:11
  comeback to make the playoffs was kind of his peak year.
• 41:13
  And then he's had some other good ones after that too.
• 41:15
  But the, the reason that I you worry about it is because a lot
• 41:18
  of the struggles and Charlie, you know, this broadcasting like
• 41:21
  the Nationals, like a lot of these other bad teams had the
• 41:23
  biggest innings against him. And that was a big reason why I
• 41:26
  think that you guys beat us 5, I know, 6 times, like in the
• 41:29
  second-half of the season, the Marlins are beating all over
• 41:32
  them. So the Orioles are now going to
• 41:33
  have to face a division that's very tough to go along with that
• 41:36
  and an American League collectively that I mean, the AL
• 41:38
  East is good. The AL West is pretty good too,
• 41:40
  outside of the Athletics and the Angels really like you're
• 41:43
  looking at a case of that's going to be some good
• 41:45
  competition. The Orioles are the Browns of
• 41:48
  baseball. That's who they are.
• 41:49
  That's harsh. They're the Browns at baseball.
• 41:52
  They have all this talent and everybody talks so highly of
• 41:54
  them. Remember the Browns with Baker
• 41:56
  Mayfield after that, they had that talented and they had a
• 41:59
  great year again and lose to Kansas City in the playoffs and
• 42:02
  they were one expected to possibly win the Super Bowl as
• 42:05
  Speedy Adam going to the Super Bowl that year and they
• 42:08
  completely fell off track and then they winded up moving Baker
• 42:11
  Mayfield in a year, years time. That is the Orioles.
• 42:15
  They had all this talent. Everybody expects this talent to
• 42:18
  develop and they slowly but surely can't afford them and
• 42:22
  they move away from them. This is a perfect comparison.
• 42:25
  Browns. Orioles.
• 42:26
  You might be giving the Browns a little too much credit there.
• 42:28
  We go, Johnny, Where are you, buddy?
• 42:30
  Now he was right about that. Trade though, because.
• 42:32
  In addition to Helsley, Cedric Bowles was God awful too that he
• 42:35
  was benched. And he just got traded to the
• 42:36
  Rays. Yes, he did.
• 42:40
  I actually signed as a free agent today.
• 42:41
  Our free agent. Yeah.
• 42:43
  But sometimes I've talked about this and, and you've seen it
• 42:45
  too, Charlie, where it's like, and I think we all have is
• 42:48
  sometimes change of scenery does more for people than they think
• 42:51
  just because it, it might be and it might just not be the
• 42:56
  baseball side of it, which a lot of people don't understand.
• 42:58
  They, you know, there's so much more to the season than the 9
• 43:01
  innings that you see like there's, you know, family
• 43:04
  arrangement, there's, you know, travel.
• 43:05
  There's, there's so much more that goes into what a baseball
• 43:08
  season is that a lot of people don't understand.
• 43:11
  That goes into, you know, obviously people playing hurt
• 43:14
  and whatever. That's, you know, that's
• 43:15
  obviously part of the game with, with the season and the grueling
• 43:18
  schedule that we have. But there's so many factors that
• 43:21
  go into it where it's like, man, I just need to get out of here.
• 43:23
  And we, we've seen it both good and bad, obviously.
• 43:26
  And so you know, some of that guy, I think on the whole, you
• 43:30
  could, you know, throw what you think in on this.
• 43:33
  Players traded in the middle of the year.
• 43:35
  If if you look at all of them over a period of time, there are
• 43:39
  very few that have a great success with their new club.
• 43:43
  Over those final few months. You talked about all the things
• 43:45
  that happened, family upheaval. Now you get the pressure of team
• 43:49
  traded for you that they're expecting you to deliver.
• 43:52
  And maybe you weren't you. Maybe you were traded because
• 43:55
  you weren't having a great year and now you're expected to
• 43:57
  figure it all out to help A-Team That's in contention.
• 44:01
  That's that's more pressure than you had at any point during the
• 44:04
  during the year and try a lot of guys don't do well in that
• 44:07
  situation. And you know, when player
• 44:09
  becomes a free agent, they'd rather see who signs now will
• 44:13
  come to the winter meetings. Nobody likes waiting around
• 44:16
  until late January, early February and spring treating
• 44:19
  starting and they got to figure all that out and, and then get
• 44:22
  to Arizona or Florida right away.
• 44:25
  Yeah, it's it's tough. Like I've done it both ways for
• 44:27
  agency. I've never ever done it during
• 44:29
  the year, but obviously been a part of the things that guys
• 44:32
  getting traded. I've always, I've always
• 44:34
  wondered the the perception, the mindset for guys.
• 44:38
  And I hope I get an opportunity to ask somebody.
• 44:40
  This is what it's like going from a team that like you kind
• 44:44
  of said where you might suck and you're out of it, but then
• 44:47
  you're coming to a team that now is in it and they're expecting
• 44:49
  you to figure something out because they've seen glimpses of
• 44:52
  it. And then vice versa.
• 44:54
  I'm like, Hey, I was in it. Now they can't afford me.
• 44:56
  I'm going to get too expensive, so they're going to get rid of
• 44:58
  me. And then it's like, you end up
• 45:00
  like playing for what? Like I, I would like to know
• 45:02
  like the mindset and the perspective that you go and it's
• 45:05
  like, Hey, tell your family to go home because we can start
• 45:08
  packing our bags for vacation. And now it's like, hey, you
• 45:11
  might want to hold off on this vacation because now we got a
• 45:14
  chance to be in the play outline.
• 45:15
  I wonder what that like perspective, that mindset,
• 45:17
  because you only get 3 days. Yeah.
• 45:19
  You know, it's interesting. A couple of years ago, the
• 45:21
  Nationals had signed Jesse Winker and he was coming off a
• 45:24
  couple really bad years. He was getting.
• 45:27
  Booed out of Seattle. He didn't do well in Milwaukee,
• 45:30
  was getting booed there. The Nationals signed him.
• 45:33
  If he did well, the team wasn't in contention.
• 45:36
  They were going to trade him. And he was having a very good
• 45:38
  year for the Nationals and was ecstatic when he got traded to
• 45:41
  the Mets. And he was a big impact player,
• 45:44
  so much so that the Mets resigned him last year.
• 45:47
  Unfortunately, the injuries he had oblique injuries, you know,
• 45:51
  can take a long time. And then he he got hurt again,
• 45:55
  never recovered from his injuries.
• 45:57
  That's the other thing, you know, if you're a player who's
• 45:59
  traded, who's been hurt, Even Kyle Schwarber when he had that
• 46:02
  monster June for the Nationals in 21 when he hit sixteen home
• 46:06
  runs, he was having an unbelievable year and then blows
• 46:09
  A hamstring. The Nationals have a terrible
• 46:11
  July and they got all these players on expiring contracts,
• 46:14
  including Schwarber who was a non tender off his previous year
• 46:18
  with the Cubs. When the National signed him,
• 46:20
  they traded him to the Red Sox. He didn't play for like 6 weeks
• 46:23
  till that hamstring healed. He did OK with them, but that
• 46:26
  still helped him get that big deal that now has expired with
• 46:30
  the Phillies. But you know, I can count very
• 46:33
  few that are traded in the middle of the year and have
• 46:36
  great success and parlay that into another big deal.
• 46:40
  Whether with the club they were traded to.
• 46:42
  Usually not not. I mean most times you see that
• 46:45
  that player never resigns with the team that they were treated
• 46:48
  to, like Helsley. Charlie, it's funny you
• 46:51
  mentioned the Jesse Waker thing five years ago, like 2019 or so,
• 46:55
  like that's fans hated him because he was taunting them
• 46:57
  when he was with Cincinnati. I was actually at the game right
• 46:59
  after that. They lost one nothing and he I
• 47:01
  think he caught the game where he in left field the game
• 47:04
  wouldn't catch for it and they were still booing him at that
• 47:06
  point. And then five years later, they
• 47:07
  all love him. He tastes himself all.
• 47:11
  Right, let's get to the next topic.
• 47:13
  I'm going to combine these two together because they're both
• 47:15
  about the Toronto Blue Jays. Let's start with the big news.
• 47:18
  The Blue Jays John Heyman reports have signed Dylan Cease
• 47:22
  to A7 year $210 million deal comes out today.
• 47:27
  Actually 61 million of it is deferred spread out between 2027
• 47:32
  and 2032. You will also receive a $23
• 47:35
  million signing bonus that can be deferred.
• 47:38
  This is despite an only 8 and 12 record on a good team with a
• 47:43
  four and a half the RFA with his usual impressive strikeout total
• 47:48
  215. I don't know.
• 47:51
  I mean, obviously the Blue Jays only have Gaussman and Bieber on
• 47:55
  expiring contracts this year, but I don't know if this is
• 47:59
  where I'm spending my money after what I saw him do on a
• 48:03
  team that was trying to compete if they're trying to get over
• 48:05
  the top. Well, I will say this.
• 48:08
  Bieber is no longer going to be a part of his team.
• 48:10
  He pitched so very well in in the World Series and throughout
• 48:15
  the playoffs. I expect Bieber to get at least
• 48:17
  20 million. I I don't think the Blue Jays
• 48:19
  are going to pay him because they gave Dylan sees this kind
• 48:22
  of money. Now Dylan sees is a good
• 48:24
  pitcher. Is he an elite pitcher?
• 48:26
  Is he worth 210 million? No, now the Blue Jays are
• 48:30
  reaching and hopefully Dylan sees coming to the American
• 48:33
  League East a harder division, probably the hardest division in
• 48:37
  all of baseball. It works out for him.
• 48:39
  This is very Blue Jays like to go after a pitcher because he's
• 48:44
  available and he looks like he's a shiny, shiny dollar or shiny
• 48:50
  100 and or shiny coin and it's going to turn into gold.
• 48:55
  I think this is going to be an absolute downfall for the Blue
• 48:58
  Jays. This is a bad move for them.
• 49:00
  It doesn't make any sense. But again, it is the Blue Jays
• 49:04
  and they did give Vladimir Guerrero Junior the money they
• 49:06
  did upfront and it worked out for him.
• 49:09
  So maybe they hit it out of the ballpark with Dylan CS.
• 49:12
  My opinion, it's an absolute downfall for them.
• 49:15
  This is a bad move by them. It's interesting they signed
• 49:18
  Cody Ponce, who was pitching the KBO and supposedly turned his
• 49:22
  pair around and just gave him a three-year, $30 million deal
• 49:26
  after what he did in the KBO and expect him to be in the starting
• 49:30
  rotation with Gozman. You Savage.
• 49:33
  It was tremendous in the postseason, the young rookie and
• 49:36
  I. And I saw today that they're
• 49:38
  open to trading Jose Barrios. And then, of course, you still
• 49:41
  have Max Scherzer who wants to come back there.
• 49:44
  If not, some of the talk is that he could end up with the Giants
• 49:47
  because the guy who was his pitching coach at Missouri in
• 49:51
  the early 2000s is now the manager of the San Francisco
• 49:55
  Giants. How about that?
• 49:56
  That's. A.
• 49:57
  Full circle, yeah. He played against him in
• 49:59
  Missouri. He threw like 112.
• 50:01
  He was he he was the only one to beat me that year.
• 50:03
  He won Pitcher of the Year. I want newcomer of the year.
• 50:05
  I still hold it against him. I bet he hasn't forgotten a
• 50:10
  second of it because 100 that dude is that dude is nuts when
• 50:13
  it comes to like remembering things and it's just he's he.
• 50:17
  He was a very like playing against him and you hear all the
• 50:20
  stories then having a chance to to play with him in Detroit and
• 50:25
  I've been playing against him since I've been in college.
• 50:27
  So kind of just seeing his demeanor as he's gone through.
• 50:30
  He he was a treat. I can I can say that here is a.
• 50:34
  Treat. I was around him for the 6 1/2
• 50:37
  years, almost 7 with the Nationals.
• 50:40
  Nothing was more fun than the day he pitched, watching
• 50:43
  everything he did. There's nobody like him.
• 50:47
  There just isn't. I mean, he would come in spring
• 50:50
  training. I was doing AQ and A with a
• 50:52
  couple of rookie pitchers at the time and he was standing in the
• 50:55
  back when the thing was was coming to a close and I had no
• 50:59
  idea why he was there. He had no function.
• 51:02
  He was waiting for those two guys to be done.
• 51:04
  He's like, come on, rookies, we're going to watch video and
• 51:07
  not video of him, video of them because he wanted to help them
• 51:11
  get better. Because the only thing that
• 51:12
  meant is we were going to win more games.
• 51:14
  And that's the only thing he cared about.
• 51:16
  Did you ever watch his bullpen days?
• 51:19
  Oh, it's all the time. Full uniform.
• 51:22
  He's going out there like I'm watching the coverage of the
• 51:25
  World Series this year and they're showing like like nobody
• 51:28
  had ever seen this before. But every day that he pitches,
• 51:32
  when he goes out his pre warm up in the outfield where he's just
• 51:37
  working on his pick off move and looking over his shoulder and
• 51:40
  he's got a routine. You know, they asked why are you
• 51:43
  throwing your bullpen in full uniform?
• 51:45
  He goes, well, I'm trying to simulate what I do in the game.
• 51:48
  I don't pitch in AT shirt in the game.
• 51:49
  So I'm going to throw in my full uniform.
• 51:52
  And after, you know, stuff starts to rub off.
• 51:54
  When Dusty Baker was the manager, he'd tell young
• 51:57
  pitchers who were staying around and go watch what Max doing.
• 52:00
  Go talk to him, Find out what he eats, how long he sleeps, find
• 52:04
  out everything. That he does.
• 52:06
  Not that all of it will translate, but that's the way
• 52:08
  everyone looked at Max. Yeah, it was funny.
• 52:11
  One of the I went to a game in 2016 in Washington and like
• 52:15
  they, you know, obviously has a different, two different color
• 52:17
  eyes, the way they like put it in the left center field.
• 52:19
  Like I don't know if it's a poster or it's like just a kind
• 52:22
  of Brandy. Like it was really cool the way
• 52:24
  they did it with the effects and.
• 52:26
  Hey, post season game, Dusty Baker went out there to talk to
• 52:31
  him. Max would want to come out of
• 52:33
  the game. He goes I'm trying to trust you.
• 52:34
  I'm looking at two different eyes and Max said.
• 52:37
  The brown eyes, the baseball eye.
• 52:38
  And then I saw like all these, all the road teams are doing it
• 52:41
  on the Jumbotron for a while too.
• 52:42
  And like they were kind of just duplicating that effect.
• 52:44
  But you guys did a left center field that was very cool.
• 52:47
  Going back to the SEAS contract, if it wasn't a deferred money, I
• 52:49
  probably would be questioning why it was 7 years because of a
• 52:52
  guy that's been very injury prone in his career, kind of
• 52:54
  streaky up and down, good strikeout stuff always
• 52:56
  throughout his career, but also has been immune to the home run
• 52:58
  ball for a pitcher of his caliber too.
• 53:00
  So if it wasn't deferred money, I would probably would question
• 53:03
  it too. But like I will say it's another
• 53:04
  veteran right-handed pitcher that goes to the Blue Jays.
• 53:06
  They already have Gossman who's good barrios.
• 53:09
  You're saying Charlie, Maybe they trade him now as a result
• 53:11
  of this. I'm surprised they did it
• 53:12
  though, as a result of how well you savage pitch in the at the
• 53:15
  end of the season and then in the playoffs it.
• 53:16
  Doesn't make any sense. It really doesn't make any
• 53:19
  sense, but it's very Blue Jays like everything the Blue Jays
• 53:23
  does makes no sense. But it it worked out this year
• 53:27
  with Vladimir Guerrero because he keep he became a playoff
• 53:30
  superstar. One of the greatest runs I've
• 53:32
  ever seen a player have throughout a playoff.
• 53:35
  So maybe they were right about him, but this is.
• 53:39
  Tell you what it. Makes you shake if.
• 53:41
  Kinder, for Lefa doesn't slide. They're the world.
• 53:44
  They're the world champions. I would agree with.
• 53:47
  You pretty well it was not. It wasn't A tag play, but I
• 53:50
  guess instinct said slide and he could have just run right
• 53:54
  through home plate on a force play.
• 53:55
  He would have beaten the play and they would have won the
• 53:57
  World Series. And and and Yankee fans, please
• 54:00
  Brian Cashman, stay away from kind of Falafa.
• 54:04
  I do not want to again. They're going to have a breakup
• 54:08
  and then he's going to go back. I do not.
• 54:09
  They're saying there's, they're saying that the Yankees are the
• 54:12
  lead team to get them. What are they, nuts?
• 54:14
  To make them their starting shortstop.
• 54:16
  Again, it's horrible. It's a horrible move.
• 54:18
  Brian Cashman, you better not do that.
• 54:21
  As a utility, As a utility player.
• 54:24
  OK, Yeah. It makes no sense.
• 54:26
  It makes no sense. Well, let's talk about another
• 54:28
  one of Brian Cashman's wonderful decisions over the years.
• 54:32
  And now years later, No, please. Sonny Gray ends up on our rival
• 54:40
  Boston Red Sox. Yes, the Cardinals traded Sunny
• 54:43
  Gray to the Red Sox for Red Sox #5 overall prospect, right hand
• 54:47
  pitcher Brandon Clark and right pitcher Richard Pitts and a
• 54:50
  player to be named later a cash considerations.
• 54:52
  On his way over to Boston, Gray took shots at his now rival and
• 54:55
  former team, the Yankees, saying he never wanted to be traded
• 54:58
  there and they are an organization that are easy to
• 55:01
  hate. Yankees fans mostly remember
• 55:03
  Gray as being an absolute disaster in the Bronx and are
• 55:05
  excited to go see him play the place where he apparently had
• 55:08
  even worse numbers in his career, Fenway Park, than he did
• 55:12
  in at Yankee Stadium. So in my opinion, probably the
• 55:16
  best example, Sonny Gray is a guy who couldn't handle the big
• 55:19
  media market of New York. Well, I don't think it's going
• 55:22
  to be a whole lot. Different.
• 55:24
  I don't think that's going to be a whole lot different in Boston.
• 55:27
  I mean, New York, Boston and Philadelphia, you got to perform
• 55:31
  or, or it gets tough really fast.
• 55:34
  I mean, Saint Louis, this was the first time I've ever seen
• 55:40
  the attendance drop like it did. And you go there and there's
• 55:43
  17,000 an ounce and it looked like there were 5000 in
• 55:46
  ballpark. But if you played there, you
• 55:49
  never got booed until this year. You started to see that.
• 55:53
  But you're talking about if if you think you're going to Boston
• 55:56
  and it's going to be a whole lot less than New York, I don't
• 56:00
  know. What do you think?
• 56:01
  Java let me a lot of pressure to play in Boston.
• 56:03
  Yeah. I don't, I don't know, kind of
• 56:06
  what he was thinking, to be honest with you, because it's
• 56:11
  it's funny how he's going to say this to try to get on the good
• 56:15
  side of Red Sox fan says now it's like, OK, you're part of
• 56:18
  this rivalry even though, you know, you've only played for the
• 56:21
  Yankees, so on and so forth. Right.
• 56:23
  But if you go back and read some of what he said and when in like
• 56:25
  2017 and even later, it's, you know, everybody dreams of
• 56:29
  playing for the Yankees, blah blah.
• 56:30
  Now he's talking out of the other side of his mouth, which
• 56:33
  doesn't do him any good. Because now what's going to
• 56:36
  happen is he can't win for loser no matter what he does.
• 56:40
  Because unless he goes out and wins a Cy Young and they win a
• 56:43
  World Series, he's not going to. He's going to be a fail because
• 56:46
  he didn't live up to the shit talking that he did to the
• 56:48
  Yankees fans. He's not going to lose Austin
• 56:51
  fans. And if he doesn't beat New York,
• 56:52
  to add on top of it, this dude might as well crawl in a hole
• 56:55
  and never come out of Nashville where he lives.
• 56:57
  He just created the ultimate blackboard material.
• 57:00
  Didn't he? Unbelievable.
• 57:02
  Unbelievable. Let me ask Sonny Gray one
• 57:04
  question. Johnny Damon played for the
• 57:05
  Yankees for a very long time, and he also played for the Red
• 57:08
  Sox. Johnny Tamon for years took
• 57:11
  shots at the Red Sox organization that they don't
• 57:13
  know how to treat players. And then he came to the Yankees
• 57:16
  and he said the Yankees treat their players like they're
• 57:18
  golden, like they there are five star restaurants everywhere they
• 57:21
  go is five star. They treat their players with so
• 57:24
  much respect. And now this guy, because Sonny
• 57:27
  Gray couldn't get along with the fans, couldn't pitch a lick in
• 57:30
  New York, he's going to take shots at the fans and take shots
• 57:34
  at the Yankees organization. You know what I would say to
• 57:36
  that? Go ask all the former Red Sox
• 57:39
  that became Yankees how the Yankees treated them because
• 57:42
  every single one of them that I've heard through the past
• 57:45
  leaving the Red Sox and came to the Yankees, including Wade
• 57:48
  Bonds, who came to the Yankees in 96 to win a World Series,
• 57:53
  said the Yankees organization is so classy.
• 57:57
  It's one of the classiest organizations I've ever been
• 57:59
  around. And he was a red sock his whole
• 58:01
  career. So, Sonny, stop bitching.
• 58:04
  All right? That's all I'm going to say.
• 58:05
  All you do is bitch. And you shouldn't be called
• 58:08
  Sonny anymore. You should be called manly
• 58:11
  because you don't have a man hair in your pants because you
• 58:15
  can't say anything right at any view to a Yankee fan.
• 58:20
  You're a failure with the Yankees and you're going to be a
• 58:23
  failure with the red. Sox.
• 58:24
  You know, all he had to do, honestly.
• 58:26
  And the thing that you learn with these bigger markets or any
• 58:30
  market, if he would have came out and said, yeah, you know
• 58:33
  what? Because they asked him about the
• 58:35
  Yankee Red Sox. Robbie, right, Going to look
• 58:37
  good. And so many eyes talk about I'm
• 58:39
  really looking forward to being part of this rivalry.
• 58:41
  It's a great thing for, you know, for baseball and sports in
• 58:44
  general. And you know what?
• 58:46
  I didn't cut it in New York. I want to go out and be better
• 58:48
  than I was in New York and Boston.
• 58:51
  They would have had that. He would have been perfect
• 58:53
  because he would have killed him with kindness on the New York
• 58:55
  side because you know what? He admitted he sucked starring.
• 58:58
  All right, at least whatever. We can't really bag somebody.
• 59:01
  It's like when you talk about Charlie Sheen, he said he was
• 59:03
  doing 8G rocks with hookers. You can't talk any worse crap
• 59:06
  about him because he just told you what it is.
• 59:08
  So if he goes and says, hey, I'm terrible, sorry, I'm want to be
• 59:12
  better for this rivalry boom. Like he would have literally
• 59:16
  been. He could have gotten away with a
• 59:19
  couple of hiccups and even lose the Yankees and then be like,
• 59:21
  see, you stink. But Boston been like, OK, he he
• 59:24
  hit a guy or something like there's ways he could have gone
• 59:26
  about this to look good. He set himself up for failure
• 59:30
  right before he even goes throw 1.
• 59:33
  Bitch. Randy Johnson won 17 games two
• 59:35
  years in a row, but he dropped a cameraman and nobody cared what
• 59:38
  he did and. Always become one.
• 59:41
  As long as she's using dude wipes and taking.
• 59:43
  Care of my that's. Good.
• 59:44
  So Charlie, I do have to mention this.
• 59:46
  This is the origin story. So three years before we ever
• 59:48
  first had you out the show, I had my trial show essentially at
• 59:53
  the Worldwide Sports Radio Network, Carol and two other
• 59:55
  guys and they were talking about guys.
• 59:57
  Obviously it was July 21st. So it's right around the MLB
• 1:00:00
  trade deadline and. I forget it was Maddie Caps and
• 1:00:02
  it was somebody else that were really wanted.
• 1:00:04
  Sonny Gray on the Yankees and I. You know what I said?
• 1:00:07
  Yeah, I remember that. I was very skeptical of it
• 1:00:10
  because he was a softer throwing, like not high velocity
• 1:00:13
  and not a high strikeout rate pitcher.
• 1:00:15
  At that time I was saying they should have tried to trade for
• 1:00:17
  Verland. Do you remember the line I used
• 1:00:19
  for him? No, I don't.
• 1:00:21
  I wish I did. Sonny is a dummy.
• 1:00:24
  That's what I said during the show and and that was the line I
• 1:00:28
  used and I remember it like it was yesterday.
• 1:00:30
  You go back and you remember what I said.
• 1:00:32
  I did not want Sonny Gray. I did not think he was going to
• 1:00:35
  work out here. He's small, he's he.
• 1:00:38
  He throws a lot of off speed pitches and it wasn't going to
• 1:00:41
  work out in Yankee statement. By the way, he gives up a lot of
• 1:00:44
  pop ups. Yeah, and I was skeptical of the
• 1:00:45
  same thing at the time, too. Now, he was a good postseason
• 1:00:48
  pitcher, which is something that the Yankees needed for a while
• 1:00:50
  because outside of Tanaka, they really didn't have that second
• 1:00:52
  postseason pitcher. And he actually was pretty good
• 1:00:54
  with the A's. But I was worried about that
• 1:00:56
  when he first got traded over there to the Yankees.
• 1:00:57
  And I had a feeling it wasn't going to last over there.
• 1:01:00
  And at the time, I was, OK, it's going to be a small parks issue.
• 1:01:03
  He goes to Cincinnati and he actually pitches well.
• 1:01:05
  So I'm like, no, maybe it was a market issue.
• 1:01:07
  And like you, both Charlie and Java were discussing.
• 1:01:09
  So like, how much of those can you be able to handle in a super
• 1:01:12
  harsh media market? And now you go to Boston.
• 1:01:14
  So yes, you might have your chipper on your shoulder getting
• 1:01:16
  to play against the Yankees, the other ALS East teams.
• 1:01:18
  But again, Fenway Park is no factor to small ballparks
• 1:01:21
  either. The rah rah shish kumba.
• 1:01:26
  All right, let's move on. We got another one revolving
• 1:01:30
  around the Yankees. This one.
• 1:01:33
  I actually saw Mr. Jabba Chamberlain tweeting about this
• 1:01:36
  while it was happening in real time.
• 1:01:39
  Hal Steinbrenner said that would be pretty good for the Yankees
• 1:01:45
  to save some money this year. That, you know, it's not it just
• 1:01:50
  because the report says that, you know, just like we said with
• 1:01:54
  Odell, 100 million goes real quick on Monday.
• 1:01:57
  Oh, Hal said that 700 million revenue that the Yankees are
• 1:02:01
  getting, you know, there's a lot of costs and overhead that we
• 1:02:05
  don't really get it as fans. There's a lot that has to go
• 1:02:09
  into it before. So, you know, like the Yankees
• 1:02:13
  need to find a way to save some money for Hal's benefit.
• 1:02:16
  Mike Francesa, as we know, took lots of shots at Hal for this
• 1:02:21
  and said that he added the Dodgers made the Yankees look
• 1:02:24
  like an 8 bowl organization. George would have never allowed
• 1:02:27
  the Dodgers to do this. I can't believe the Yankees are
• 1:02:31
  saying they're not making a profit.
• 1:02:34
  I mean, it's not looking the way that we want.
• 1:02:39
  When you hear it come out that so many teams in baseball are
• 1:02:44
  not turning a profit, I mean, I watched this year commissioner
• 1:02:48
  go around to each team and talk to them about how trying to set
• 1:02:52
  the table for the labor negotiations and tell players,
• 1:02:56
  you know, this continues. Only a few players are going to
• 1:02:59
  make big money and the rest of you are going to be stuck around
• 1:03:01
  the minimum. I mean, I've, I've heard that
• 1:03:04
  speech from in sports for how many decades now?
• 1:03:08
  And you look at every sport, even with the salary cap, you
• 1:03:11
  know, the money keeps going up and TV revenue keeps getting
• 1:03:14
  bigger and bigger. So at the same time that he's
• 1:03:18
  saying this to the players, he comes out of these meetings and
• 1:03:21
  talks to reporters and you have all these new TV deals coming in
• 1:03:26
  that he's setting up now to run through 28 before they put it
• 1:03:29
  all up for auction, including streaming package to involve as
• 1:03:33
  many teams as possible. And then say that attendance on
• 1:03:37
  average baseball better than it's ever been.
• 1:03:39
  So if you're a player, you're hearing two different stories
• 1:03:43
  coming from, you know, each side of his mouth, unless, you know,
• 1:03:47
  you look back my previous life, I worked in the NBA for 11
• 1:03:51
  years. The NBA had the boom after the
• 1:03:53
  salary cap. And they did that to save the
• 1:03:56
  league. But the only way it worked with
• 1:03:58
  the union is they opened the books and said, we're going to
• 1:04:01
  give you 51% of everything that we make and you're going to be
• 1:04:05
  able to see it. The baseball owners want a
• 1:04:07
  salary cap. They're never going to open the
• 1:04:09
  books and show you all the money that they're making that's
• 1:04:12
  outside of attendance and all these other deals.
• 1:04:15
  And who knows what is involved with these betting companies
• 1:04:18
  that are doing all this advertising.
• 1:04:20
  And if we ever go there, the worst thing that's ever happened
• 1:04:27
  to sports and athletes because you all I can say is what did
• 1:04:32
  they think was going to happen? I will.
• 1:04:35
  I will say this, I like Mike Francesi.
• 1:04:37
  Everybody knows he's a guy that I look up to when it comes to
• 1:04:40
  radio, and I love that he attacked Hal Steinbrenner.
• 1:04:44
  But the fact here is the Yankees are one of the richest teams in
• 1:04:48
  all of professional baseball. And Francesca.
• 1:04:51
  Yankees and Dallas Cowboys, right?
• 1:04:52
  Yeah. And Francesca, and they sell
• 1:04:55
  more. I buy more.
• 1:04:56
  I buy more Yankee hats than anybody does.
• 1:04:58
  So I know I put a lot of money in the Yankees pockets.
• 1:05:01
  So if I'm doing it, I know there's other fans doing the
• 1:05:04
  same thing. I've got a million different
• 1:05:05
  hats and different colors for the New York Yankees.
• 1:05:08
  I absolutely believe that Al Steinbrenner is making excuses.
• 1:05:12
  I don't like to defer money. I think baseball needs to step
• 1:05:14
  in and do something about it. But nevertheless, I think he's
• 1:05:18
  absolutely right. The Yankees should be going out
• 1:05:20
  there and spending mucho De Niro, even though they're one of
• 1:05:23
  the the top five teams in baseball.
• 1:05:25
  They were the number one team in baseball when it comes to
• 1:05:27
  salaries and now they fall into 3rd or 4th.
• 1:05:30
  That to me is a problem. And when the Yankees are getting
• 1:05:33
  outbidden for Juan Soto, even though I didn't want Juan Soto,
• 1:05:36
  I, I put it on paper. I did not want to keep Juan
• 1:05:39
  Soto. I just believe that it was
• 1:05:42
  embarrassing watching the Mets win a bidding contest for Juan
• 1:05:47
  Soto. It was embarrassing.
• 1:05:48
  And the Yankees. And he's right.
• 1:05:49
  Francesca's right. George Steinbrenner would have
• 1:05:51
  never let that. Happen.
• 1:05:53
  No way. No way.
• 1:05:54
  Never let that happen. He he probably would not have
• 1:05:57
  gone through the season without making a change in the dugout
• 1:06:00
  either. Yeah, he would have gotten to a
• 1:06:02
  lot more extreme measures. And you're talking about like
• 1:06:04
  you were mentioning Charlie too, like some of these owners that
• 1:06:06
  aren't going to change their ways just based on that too.
• 1:06:08
  Like George Steinbrenner was still going to commit to his way
• 1:06:11
  no matter what if he was still there.
• 1:06:12
  Hal Steinbrenner is still going to.
• 1:06:13
  I'm not going to say like spend like like the Brewers do or
• 1:06:17
  anything like that, but. Like, you know, the biggest
• 1:06:19
  problem they have in the game when they talk about, oh, we
• 1:06:21
  need a salary cap because of competitive balance.
• 1:06:25
  OK, well, all these teams taking revenue sharing, there's nothing
• 1:06:29
  that forces them. Although there there was a
• 1:06:31
  penalty involved, like for the Marlins and the Pirates, at some
• 1:06:34
  point they had to add more money to payroll to avoid a penalty.
• 1:06:38
  I remember that. But most of the time we don't
• 1:06:40
  know if this revenue sharing that's going to these smaller
• 1:06:42
  market teams is going immediately into the Major
• 1:06:46
  League payroll. And you know, their way around
• 1:06:49
  that is to just add more teams to be allowed to get into the
• 1:06:52
  playoffs. And that way, you know, those
• 1:06:55
  teams that don't spend go, you know, what, if we have a lucky
• 1:06:57
  year, we we had a few pieces and we're hanging around 500 in
• 1:07:02
  July. We're in the wild card hunt here
• 1:07:04
  and we have a shot. And then maybe we get in and
• 1:07:06
  maybe we get lucky and and get deep in the tournament.
• 1:07:09
  So that's but to me and and I love to hear like with Jabba
• 1:07:15
  being an ex player with this, the difference salary and how
• 1:07:20
  much you spend. Even though the Dodgers are
• 1:07:22
  back-to-back, there's no guarantee that you're going to
• 1:07:25
  be healthy enough to get through the postseason win.
• 1:07:29
  But but it what it does do is sell out your ballpark during
• 1:07:33
  the regular season. And that's why they have all
• 1:07:35
  that money. And the teams that look at San
• 1:07:38
  Diego, if you go back 15 years, they didn't have big crowds
• 1:07:41
  coming to Petco Park. Now you added superstars to that
• 1:07:45
  team and that's one of the best atmospheres in baseball.
• 1:07:48
  That's it's amazing to go watch a Padres game there.
• 1:07:51
  It doesn't, no matter who they're playing, it's just a
• 1:07:53
  tremendous atmosphere and a ballpark is sold out every
• 1:07:56
  night. And that's why they have the
• 1:07:58
  money to spend and give these these these big contracts.
• 1:08:01
  But that's what fills the seats. People are not going to go watch
• 1:08:04
  a team that doesn't have any star players on a cold night in
• 1:08:08
  April or September unless they're in contention and you
• 1:08:11
  have a chance to win. Yeah, I think.
• 1:08:14
  And they go hand in hand because they they spend the money to
• 1:08:18
  have those guys with jersey sales, with all the other stuff
• 1:08:21
  to get people in the seats. But then why the TV deals keep
• 1:08:26
  coming is because now it's like, OK, well, if they're not
• 1:08:29
  watching here, they're watching it somewhere else.
• 1:08:30
  And they're going to they're going to buy whatever package or
• 1:08:33
  whatever it is to be able to make sure that they watch their
• 1:08:36
  favorite player. They could live all the way
• 1:08:38
  across the country and then do that.
• 1:08:40
  But then they follow them no matter what.
• 1:08:41
  If you switch teams, though, some don't whatever, but it
• 1:08:44
  just, I think it goes hand in hand.
• 1:08:46
  And it was always funny too, because it's like once the
• 1:08:49
  playoffs start, obviously you go into playoff shares, you're
• 1:08:52
  going as well. How much money is actually
• 1:08:54
  really going into the pocket? I know you travel with both
• 1:08:57
  accountants and but I know it's ticket sales, but then it's like
• 1:09:00
  OK, concessions and all the other stuff.
• 1:09:02
  And what goes with that and the ticket prices from the stuff
• 1:09:06
  that you don't sell because then what do they go?
• 1:09:09
  It's it's all interesting, but you're 100% right because what
• 1:09:12
  are they doing is putting names in seats and they can pay this
• 1:09:16
  money now because of all these extra things that they did.
• 1:09:20
  And you see why other teams aren't making a bunch of money
• 1:09:23
  even though they have a buttload of money is because they don't
• 1:09:26
  have any other team they want to watch so that you don't want to
• 1:09:29
  watch them. What then?
• 1:09:30
  Then what's it matter? Like you're not going to get in
• 1:09:32
  anyways. It was what that is probably 10
• 1:09:35
  years ago when the Marlins were getting in trouble.
• 1:09:37
  Then they signed Jose Reyes and Burley in the same year and they
• 1:09:40
  thought they were going to win. Well, obviously that didn't
• 1:09:43
  happen. You know, it's owning a baseball
• 1:09:46
  team is being part of a big exclusive club.
• 1:09:50
  And I think for some, it's just to be in the club and that's
• 1:09:54
  good enough. And I, I, you know, I don't feel
• 1:09:57
  like when I watched some franchises that they put
• 1:10:00
  themselves in the position to win and, and to succeed both on
• 1:10:05
  and off the field. Because, you know, a team like
• 1:10:07
  the Potteries maybe hasn't won a World Series.
• 1:10:10
  But now still, in terms of what they do to be competitive every
• 1:10:14
  year and put people in the park, they're, they're right in the,
• 1:10:17
  they're in the elite. They're in the top three or four
• 1:10:20
  in baseball now. I, I want to say something, not
• 1:10:23
  fish. Jabba, you brought up
• 1:10:25
  accountants and where the money is going.
• 1:10:27
  That reminds me of somebody that played for the Dodgers, somebody
• 1:10:31
  that had five or six accountants and didn't know where 20
• 1:10:35
  something $1,000,000 was going. And Jabba was one of very few
• 1:10:40
  people that came out and said, well, we don't know what he did,
• 1:10:43
  so we don't know what he did. We can't blame him for it.
• 1:10:46
  I'm going to tell you, John, he's guilty.
• 1:10:52
  That's all I'm going to say. Baseball.
• 1:10:54
  Was not by who? By whose standards?
• 1:10:56
  Who's he guilty at? Yours.
• 1:10:58
  Everybody's standard that's been on this show, ex baseball
• 1:11:02
  players, but you, you're the only one that thinks that he
• 1:11:05
  knew nothing about this and he should be absolutely let go and
• 1:11:10
  let it flow. You're the only one, the only
• 1:11:13
  one that's been on this show that has come out and said that
• 1:11:16
  he knew nothing about it. Hey, if you're standing by
• 1:11:18
  yourself, even if you're standing doesn't matter.
• 1:11:23
  Interesting. Well, maybe we'll find out more
• 1:11:24
  about that case next. Time.
• 1:11:26
  I doubt it. No, you won't.
• 1:11:27
  I doubt it. John was going to be hired as
• 1:11:31
  the guy to cover all of it up. I doubt it.
• 1:11:34
  Anyways, Charlie, we love you man, and we'd love for you to
• 1:11:37
  come on whenever you want. If you want to stay on, we have
• 1:11:40
  to interview Quinton Jammer. You can stay in the back.
• 1:11:43
  If we have other segments, you can come and join us after that.
• 1:11:46
  But you're more than welcome to. But we are going to have a very
• 1:11:49
  special guest first time on our show.
• 1:11:51
  Quinton Jammer is going to be joining us.
• 1:11:52
  But we do have my deuce of the day.
• 1:11:55
  The deuce of the day you log not a log.
• 1:11:58
  I don't have a log, but no. Yeah, ladies and gentlemen, I
• 1:12:09
  really don't know what's going on in Clipperville.
• 1:12:13
  It really makes no sense. And this story seems to be just
• 1:12:17
  absolutely ridiculous as Chris Paul went on social media 5
• 1:12:23
  minutes ago, well before before the game where I really before
• 1:12:27
  shoot around and said just found out I'm being sent home.
• 1:12:31
  And what's so interesting about this story is Chris Paul wasn't
• 1:12:36
  told at any point before they before the game or really
• 1:12:41
  heading to the really heading to the basketball, the Clipper, you
• 1:12:45
  know, the Staples Center, wherever the hell he was, he was
• 1:12:48
  he, he was Lawrence Frank reached out to him and said
• 1:12:51
  something very interesting and said like, listen, we're going,
• 1:12:55
  we're going to let you go. We're going to do whatever we
• 1:12:56
  can to give you an opportunity for your next step of your
• 1:13:01
  career. So we're going to do whatever we
• 1:13:03
  can to help you with your next step.
• 1:13:05
  And then Lawrence Frank went out on social media and said this
• 1:13:09
  about Chris Paul. He said Chris is a legendary
• 1:13:13
  Clipper who has had a historic career.
• 1:13:17
  I want to make one thing very clear.
• 1:13:20
  No one is blaming Chris for our underperformance.
• 1:13:25
  I accept responsibility for the record we have right now.
• 1:13:29
  No one is blaming Chris for our underperformance.
• 1:13:32
  I accept. And then he says there are a lot
• 1:13:36
  of reasons why we have struggled.
• 1:13:39
  We're grateful for the impact Chris has made on the franchise.
• 1:13:44
  You know, and now there's stories coming out that him and
• 1:13:47
  Tyron Lou, we're not getting along.
• 1:13:49
  And maybe one of the reasons why is because Tyron Lou was his
• 1:13:52
  back out, but backup point guard over there in Charlotte.
• 1:13:55
  I don't know what the story is, but you can see that Tyron Lou
• 1:14:00
  and Chris Paul did not like each other.
• 1:14:02
  There was back and forth banter early this season about how this
• 1:14:06
  is going to work. He wanted to come back to
• 1:14:08
  Clipperville because that was where he loved his time playing
• 1:14:12
  basketball. He said that his best time of
• 1:14:14
  his basketball career was playing for Lob City and Doc
• 1:14:17
  Rivers. We know Lawrence Frank was a
• 1:14:19
  part of the, I think he was the assistant, one of the assistant
• 1:14:23
  coaches over there under Doc Rivers, if I'm not mistaken.
• 1:14:26
  And now he's the the president of basketball operations over
• 1:14:29
  there with the Clippers. I don't get this.
• 1:14:32
  I think that it just shows Lawrence Frank doesn't know what
• 1:14:34
  he's doing and that Tyronn Lue seems to have all the power in
• 1:14:39
  the world to push out a Hall of Famer, one of the great point
• 1:14:42
  guards we've seen in the last 15 years of the NBA.
• 1:14:45
  Everybody keeps talking and comparing point guards and why I
• 1:14:48
  believe Chris Paul is in a top five point guard of all time.
• 1:14:51
  This guy is definitely a top five point guard of all time
• 1:14:54
  defensively and offensively. Yes, he's never won a title.
• 1:14:57
  Yes, he's never taken a team. Well, he's been to 1 Finals.
• 1:15:01
  Actually. He did it with Phoenix, but
• 1:15:02
  nobody remembers that. But he really, to me, he had
• 1:15:06
  many, many chances to be a part of good organizations, one of
• 1:15:10
  them the Lakers. But David Stern decided to step
• 1:15:14
  in and make sure that didn't happen.
• 1:15:16
  He probably wins three titles over there with the with the
• 1:15:19
  Lakers. If he did get traded over there,
• 1:15:21
  he just has had bad luck and couldn't stay healthy on his
• 1:15:24
  playoff runs. I do believe this guy is one of
• 1:15:28
  the more underachieving players we've ever seen in NBA history,
• 1:15:32
  but absolutely one of the greatest point guards I've ever
• 1:15:35
  seen, and this is a shameful thing the Clippers did to one of
• 1:15:38
  their biggest superstars. I think this is wrong.
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  going to be a great game. So some real interesting ones to
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  pick from here. I'm going to read it off to you
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  well. So here it is, the $5 player at
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  quarterback, Josh Allen followed by Jordan love #3 dollars.
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  Guess who's back? It's Joe Burrow, Shady's back
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  with that hairstyle. I guess he doesn't have it
• 1:22:21
  blonde the same way anymore. Trevor Lawrence 2 bucks and
• 1:22:25
  Daniel Jones on 1 1/2 legs for a dollar.
• 1:22:30
  Jonathan Taylor has two real good legs.
• 1:22:32
  He's been running well, a couple of tough ones last couple weeks.
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  He's still a $5 running back followed by James Cook for
• 1:22:37
  $4.00. Travis Etienne junior at 3, Josh
• 1:22:40
  Jacobs for two and DeAndre Swift may be a very nice value at a
• 1:22:44
  dollar I couldn't find a way to place in my non guy in our list.
• 1:22:49
  Jamar Chase is going to be the $5 wide receiver one, followed
• 1:22:52
  by Alec Pierce who has really great breakout numbers.
• 1:22:57
  We're going to be talking about him at the end of the season for
• 1:22:59
  some kind of maybe most improved award possibly.
• 1:23:02
  Khalil Shakur is the three dollar player, DJ Moore at $2.00
• 1:23:06
  and Parker Washington or Buck at the other $5 player.
• 1:23:10
  It's kind of tough this week. Roma Dunsday has had some tough
• 1:23:13
  ones, but technically he has. I looked it up, of all the other
• 1:23:16
  players, he has the most yards on that list.
• 1:23:19
  So he is the $5 player for wide receiver 2, followed by Michael
• 1:23:22
  Pittman junior, Romeo Dobbs, Brian Thomas junior on the
• 1:23:26
  struggle bus this season and Dantavian Wicks had two
• 1:23:30
  touchdowns last week filling in there at a dollar and at tight
• 1:23:34
  end, we got the two rookies at the top.
• 1:23:36
  We got Tyler Warren for 5 bucks, followed by Colston Loveland, a
• 1:23:39
  returning Brenton Strange, Mike Kasicki, and for a dollar, Luke
• 1:23:45
  Musgrave. All right, so here we are.
• 1:23:49
  Let's get into it. Who was the winner last week?
• 1:23:52
  Jared? All right.
• 1:23:55
  So Jared, you're going to give us the order for tonight.
• 1:24:02
  Let's start with Speedy. OK, so I'm definitely taking
• 1:24:06
  Burrow and Chase. That is a given.
• 1:24:10
  I'm trying to figure out which combination of running back
• 1:24:12
  stuff I want. Let's see.
• 1:24:15
  I mean, Brian Thomas, I like that dark throw of a value with
• 1:24:18
  sauce. Probably out for two.
• 1:24:21
  So that gives me 10. I'm going to say, yeah, I don't
• 1:24:30
  have room for Warren at all. Give me Jacobs and Strange.
• 1:24:34
  All right, we're going with Josh Jacobs and Brent and Strange.
• 1:24:40
  All right, Yeah. So I got you at Burrow.
• 1:24:42
  Jacobs Chick Junior and Brandon Strange.
• 1:24:46
  Who's up next? Jared.
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  Let's go Tommy. Tommy Hoops.
• 1:24:51
  All right, so I feel like I made a mistake not starting Burrow in
• 1:24:57
  fantasy last week. So we're going to draft Burrow
• 1:25:00
  here with $3. James Cook's been pretty
• 1:25:03
  consistent, so we're going to go Burrow Cook.
• 1:25:06
  Chase then leaves me with like, I think $3.00.
• 1:25:10
  So I'm going to go Brian Thomas Junior and then for a dollar,
• 1:25:14
  Luke Musgrave. That was the other combo I was
• 1:25:16
  thinking. I almost did that one too all.
• 1:25:19
  Right, so I stole it from. You all right?
• 1:25:20
  Well, you're right that Tommy for Burrow, Cook, Chase, Brian
• 1:25:24
  Thomas Junior and Luke Musgrave, who's up next.
• 1:25:28
  All right, I'm going to go. I'll go.
• 1:25:33
  I'll go. Danny Dimes, Josh Jacobs, Jamar
• 1:25:37
  Chase, Brian Thomas, Junior and Tyler Warren.
• 1:25:43
  All right. I definitely didn't get all of
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  that. So I got Brian Thomas Junior, I
• 1:25:48
  got Tyler Warren, I got Danny Dimes.
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  I think I heard Chase. Chase and Jacobs.
• 1:25:56
  And Josh Jacobs. All right, there we go.
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  Who you got going next? Let's go, Jabba.
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  Jabba. I'm going to go Burrow, then I'm
• 1:26:09
  going to go Swifty, then I'm gonna go Khalil Shakur, then I'm
• 1:26:21
  gonna go, I'm gonna go Colston Loveland.
• 1:26:28
  So that's it. I'm at 12, right?
• 1:26:30
  711 you actually have 11 right now.
• 1:26:33
  Oh yeah, And then give me, give me Pitman.
• 1:26:37
  So you got Pitman. All right, so I got you at
• 1:26:41
  Burrow, Swift, Shakur, Pittman and Loveland.
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  Listen, I'm not going to ask you this one.
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  I'm going to tell you. I know Errol wants to go last,
• 1:26:53
  so I will go next. I am going to dare to be
• 1:26:59
  different, dare to be great. I'm going to take the guy who I
• 1:27:03
  don't think is going to be happy to just let Joe Burrow walk in
• 1:27:06
  there, win Josh Allen against one of the worst defenses God
• 1:27:10
  has ever put on a football field.
• 1:27:12
  I'm going to also go with Brenton Strange, who looked
• 1:27:15
  awesome when I saw him the other day.
• 1:27:18
  So I think that's a nice value there.
• 1:27:21
  I really Packers run defence. I'm going to go with Swift I
• 1:27:31
  think at running back. I think that's just too good of
• 1:27:33
  a value to pass up, although I am worried about the Monongai
• 1:27:36
  vulture status there. How much do I have now?
• 1:27:39
  I got 69, I got 6 left for the 2 receiver positions.
• 1:27:45
  Do I go with everybody? I think I'm going to go yeah, I
• 1:27:52
  think this lets me go different. I'm going to go chase also, but
• 1:27:56
  I'm going to. That leaves me a buck for Wicks.
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  Did have two touchdowns last week.
• 1:28:02
  Oh, Lith. Mania.
• 1:28:04
  I got Josh Allen, I got Josh Jacobs, clear Shakur Romeo
• 1:28:09
  Dobbs, and then I got Mike is S you know.
• 1:28:12
  No, no, sorry, Colson Loveland, you don't have enough.
• 1:28:19
  You don't have enough. We're insane stream.
• 1:28:28
  Saves a dollar again there. You go the.
• 1:28:30
  Streak continues, finds finds a way to pocket some change.
• 1:28:34
  I got Alan Jacobs, Shakur Dobbs and Musgrave for the least one.
• 1:28:41
  All right. Last but not least, our remarks.
• 1:28:45
  All right, let's go. Daniel Jones just playing who
• 1:28:47
  this week? Jacksonville.
• 1:28:49
  I'm going Daniel Jones, James Cook.
• 1:28:51
  Who is he playing Bengals? I'm going to go James Cook.
• 1:28:58
  I'm gonna go Jamar Chase. How many do I have?
• 1:29:00
  That is 10 right now that you've used so far.
• 1:29:02
  I'm gonna go. All right?
• 1:29:04
  I'm gonna go Michael Pittman, and then I'm gonna go.
• 1:29:07
  My pinky is bigger than yours. As we all know, yes.
• 1:29:11
  All right, guys that save your tears.
• 1:29:12
  If you tune in on Monday, you will get the results for week 14
• 1:29:17
  and a compliment chorus where no one's allowed to cry about it.
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  You got to save your tears. Fishers Play of the Week This is
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  great about sports you. Play to win the game.
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  Hello, you play to win the game. Fishes play of the wing.
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  OK, welcome back to Fishes Play of the Week.
• 1:29:38
  So this one won the game in an upset when this is a real
• 1:29:44
  consequential play. If the Carolina Panthers end up
• 1:29:48
  making it to the playoffs, it's because of what happened here
• 1:29:51
  against the Los Angeles Rams. So again, they get over 500.
• 1:29:56
  Now this is the play Bryce Young gets back.
• 1:29:59
  They're down four on 4th and two, 6 minutes left in the 4th.
• 1:30:03
  And there's the first round put pick, rookie Teddaroa McMillan,
• 1:30:08
  seemingly a pretty easy touchdown.
• 1:30:11
  Why is it so easy? Well, that's why it's the play
• 1:30:13
  of the week. Let's take a look at exactly
• 1:30:15
  what happened. They're going to show you a
• 1:30:17
  behind the center view in a second on this clip right here.
• 1:30:20
  And it's like if I was trying to play a basketball play as a
• 1:30:26
  football coach, this is exactly what I would draw.
• 1:30:29
  Errol, if I asked you like to do set a screen in basketball and
• 1:30:33
  cut to the hoop. You would go, oh, that's a
• 1:30:34
  normal play. Well, look at the top of the
• 1:30:37
  screen about 20 yards deep. What's going to happen with
• 1:30:40
  these two receivers here? This is literally a pick play,
• 1:30:44
  but it's 20 yards downfield, so it's never going to be called.
• 1:30:47
  The idea behind this, they're going to send a crosser bringing
• 1:30:51
  this linebacker out of the picture because they want to
• 1:30:53
  throw it to the right. So bring him over to the left.
• 1:30:55
  That's the first thing this play does.
• 1:30:57
  By the way, Canales is pretty excellent.
• 1:30:59
  So there's the first guy, 40 eights going to run with 0
• 1:31:02
  taking him out of the play. So now you have the two
• 1:31:04
  receivers behind them and not enough defenders to pick.
• 1:31:08
  They had a 1 high safety. Look, one of the safety is going
• 1:31:11
  to go one way and it's going to be double covered.
• 1:31:13
  The other way it's going to be single covered.
• 1:31:15
  They decided to single cover Teterola McMillan.
• 1:31:19
  Take a look at how open he gets. He just has to throw it over his
• 1:31:22
  head. They get the win.
• 1:31:24
  They are back in playoff contention.
• 1:31:26
  That's why that play is vicious. Play the way.
• 1:31:30
  I will say this at McMillan is is sensational to watch.
• 1:31:33
  He really is fun to watch and I didn't think it was going his
• 1:31:38
  his. The game that he played in
• 1:31:40
  college was going to transfer as fast over to the NFL.
• 1:31:44
  Because he's the odds favorite to win rig of the year, right?
• 1:31:48
  He's won. Probably Buca has been
• 1:31:50
  unbelievable and Buca was. He's been with the Tampa Bay
• 1:31:53
  Buccaneers with all the. He fell off, you know, like his
• 1:31:56
  stats in the last bunch of weeks are down.
• 1:31:58
  I know odds are really close right now.
• 1:32:02
  Hold on, I'll bring it up in a second.
• 1:32:04
  So Jabba, there were some, there were some other metrics that
• 1:32:07
  actually McMillan and IGBUCA were both very even on
• 1:32:10
  throughout the season. IGBUCA just had more big plays
• 1:32:12
  in the touchdowns for a while. But now since like Fish was
• 1:32:15
  saying, like they kind of have leveled out where it that race
• 1:32:18
  is going to actually be pretty close.
• 1:32:19
  Tyler Warren was the other one that's kind of fallen off in
• 1:32:21
  recent weeks too. So he might be a distant third
• 1:32:24
  at this point. So you're not, you're going to
• 1:32:26
  be surprised and I think it's kind of ridiculous.
• 1:32:28
  But the census according that I'm looking at is no Mcmillan's
• 1:32:32
  number one, they're having that plus 1:30 between plus 110 and
• 1:32:37
  plus 1:30 depending on where you get your odds.
• 1:32:39
  The Buka is anywhere between plus 2:30 and plus 290.
• 1:32:43
  Behind him is Jackson Dart. I don't agree with that, but
• 1:32:46
  they have him like at +300 and then it's Tyler Warren, Trayvon
• 1:32:50
  Henderson, Judkins and then Gentie at plus 10,000.
• 1:32:55
  What a surprise I. Think Judge could should be
• 1:32:56
  higher than Henderson? I think they're going to give it
• 1:32:58
  to McMillan because he was the top wide receiver in the class.
• 1:33:02
  But I I think Imbuka has been the best one because I'll tell
• 1:33:05
  you why Mike Evans went down early.
• 1:33:07
  They can't get consistency from Godwin.
• 1:33:10
  He can't stay on the field. And this guy went from #3 on the
• 1:33:15
  depth charts to #1 and as a rookie, to put pressured like
• 1:33:19
  that to be the number one target for Baker Mayfield and be one of
• 1:33:23
  the early favorites. The way he has been all season
• 1:33:27
  long as rookie of the year says a lot about him.
• 1:33:28
  He's been sensational. He's been fun to watch.
• 1:33:30
  McMillan coming out of the draft, everybody expected this
• 1:33:32
  kid to be great. And, and Bryce Young, you could
• 1:33:35
  see he's played differently now that he has a number one target.
• 1:33:38
  You can see that Canales can run his offense through like he did
• 1:33:41
  with Baker Mayfield because he had Mike Evans there and he had
• 1:33:44
  Godwin. I could see, you could see why I
• 1:33:46
  think Canales, this is one of the best offensive, one of the
• 1:33:49
  best young offensive minds the NFL has and why I think Carolina
• 1:33:53
  is a borderline playoff team. They're not making the playoffs.
• 1:33:55
  I don't care what anybody. There's still a lot of defensive
• 1:33:58
  players away, but their offense is making enough strive.
• 1:34:00
  They have a lot of money next year where they're going to be
• 1:34:02
  thought of as a rising. I just don't think Bryce Young's
• 1:34:05
  the guy still. I think if they get a competent
• 1:34:07
  quarterback that can, you know, can do everything and be more
• 1:34:10
  consistent. I, I think this team is a
• 1:34:12
  playoff team and they got a running, they found a running
• 1:34:14
  back. Thank you to the Cowboys for
• 1:34:16
  making up this day. And it wasn't It wasn't for his
• 1:34:18
  revenge game. The Cowboys might be leading the
• 1:34:20
  division of the. I mean, that's just another
• 1:34:22
  Jerry Jones debacle. I mean, think about it.
• 1:34:24
  This guy was what on the he was the 3rd running back as the
• 1:34:27
  depth chart guy and and this guy is one of the best running backs
• 1:34:30
  in the league and. I mentioned it, what we what I
• 1:34:32
  used it for with my side of the week too.
• 1:34:34
  Like he was like the second worst, like like least efficient
• 1:34:38
  running back at the time and then all of a sudden he plays.
• 1:34:40
  I went well against the Cowboys and all of a starts go.
• 1:34:42
  He's running wild since. Then he's been unbelievable and
• 1:34:45
  and Canalis likes to run first, throw second.
• 1:34:47
  That's what the Buccaneers like to do, that's what bowls like to
• 1:34:50
  do. And you can see the difference
• 1:34:52
  in and what he brought to. And I remember the the Panthers
• 1:34:56
  had a competing coach there and he only lasted one year.
• 1:35:00
  This is a guy that was a great offensive coordinator, had one
• 1:35:03
  good successful year with Indianapolis and then fell off
• 1:35:05
  the next year. So I, I, I guess we all know
• 1:35:09
  what happened. Anyways, let's move on as
• 1:35:12
  Speedy's 6 pack of the week. Let's have a sixer.
• 1:35:17
  Hey, who wants to play Drink the Beer?
• 1:35:19
  It's time for the Speedy 6 pack of the week.
• 1:35:24
  Start with tomorrow's Dallas Cowboy.
• 1:35:26
  Blowjob. Game against the Detroit Lions.
• 1:35:28
  The Lions are three-point favorites at home.
• 1:35:31
  Suck my indo big. Game for wild card implications
• 1:35:34
  in the NFC. I'm gonna take Detroit in this
• 1:35:36
  spot. Both of them are coming off.
• 1:35:37
  Long weeks, obviously, both playing on Thanksgiving.
• 1:35:40
  Dallas's defense? I don't.
• 1:35:41
  Know some of my ass. Offense this good as well as the
• 1:35:44
  Lions have done, so I'm gonna take Detroit here in this.
• 1:35:46
  Spot. So there's a whole story like
• 1:35:49
  Frank Rag now is gonna come out of retirement and then he had
• 1:35:53
  like a grade three born hamstring and they're like,
• 1:35:56
  yeah, you're probably going to be on a shelf for six months.
• 1:35:58
  You try to come out of retirement.
• 1:36:00
  So maybe fix that. We'll talk about it next year.
• 1:36:02
  They have a little bit of a trouble.
• 1:36:04
  If there's anything that they're struggling with, it's kind of
• 1:36:07
  some interior pass protection. Their tackles obviously are
• 1:36:10
  fantastic. They're they're very good, but
• 1:36:14
  they've had a little bit of issues and golf isn't exactly
• 1:36:16
  the guy that's going to be running for, you know, for first
• 1:36:18
  downs all the time. You know, you don't want him to
• 1:36:21
  have to do that. So they there's a couple of
• 1:36:22
  chinks in the arm over there and Quinn and Williams is a man on a
• 1:36:26
  mission since that trade. He looks awesome.
• 1:36:29
  That defense is rallying. They're better.
• 1:36:32
  The safeties, they got Lee Cooker and they got Donovan
• 1:36:36
  Wilson back. Both of those guys make a big
• 1:36:39
  difference when you have the safeties in the back end, making
• 1:36:42
  sure everybody's in the right spots before the play starts and
• 1:36:45
  knows what the calls are in the adjustments as opposed to some
• 1:36:47
  guys you got off the street. I think they're going to be a
• 1:36:51
  lot tougher to beat. Give me Dallas in this game.
• 1:36:54
  I think they're making their run through the playoffs.
• 1:36:56
  Arrow, arrow still 15 to one on back.
• 1:36:59
  We can still make a bet on him. I'm not making no bets, but I
• 1:37:03
  think the NFL is all about favoritism and for some reason
• 1:37:06
  Drake May has this love fetish for all the fans and all the
• 1:37:09
  writers. So I I guess he's the bona fide
• 1:37:13
  MVP and I think Mikey C is sitting dancing around.
• 1:37:16
  Of course he is, because they have the third easiest schedule
• 1:37:19
  in NFL history. So congratulations to him if he
• 1:37:22
  wins. And that would be my take on it
• 1:37:24
  if he wins the award. Ted, Baby Davos.
• 1:37:27
  On the. Lions.
• 1:37:28
  We got the Lions and the Cowboys right.
• 1:37:30
  Yep, Thursday Night Football. And you never know what the
• 1:37:32
  Lions are right now. I'm going to say the Lions
• 1:37:34
  secondary is horrible. Brown could be.
• 1:37:37
  It could be out in this game, he might be out for the rest and
• 1:37:41
  see, I don't know what's going on with him.
• 1:37:43
  I'm I'm going with the Cowgirls. I'm going with Daki Presk.
• 1:37:48
  I'm putting up the numbers, baby.
• 1:37:50
  Give me Dak Prescott and the Cowgirls.
• 1:37:52
  All right, we'll go to the Steelers at the Ravens.
• 1:37:55
  The Ravens are 6 point favorites at home.
• 1:37:59
  I don't like this spread. I think the Steelers will hang
• 1:38:02
  tough. This is a divisional game.
• 1:38:04
  Like the Steelers defense has generally played well against
• 1:38:06
  Lamar Jackson and this secondary cast of supporting cast for the
• 1:38:09
  Ravens offense has not been as good as they were last year.
• 1:38:12
  So I do think this is I think the Ravens will win the game,
• 1:38:14
  but I do think Pittsburgh does cover the spread.
• 1:38:16
  I think it is close. I mean, I'm assuming Lamar's
• 1:38:20
  hurt, right? Like he's just not playing
• 1:38:23
  right. It's something's wrong.
• 1:38:25
  I think he's probably overcompensating and it's making
• 1:38:27
  him less accurate and it's really hard to understand why
• 1:38:32
  he's not playing anywhere near the level that we saw last year
• 1:38:36
  when, you know, I think Errol, we both agreed that he should
• 1:38:38
  have been the MVP over Josh Allen last season, 100%.
• 1:38:41
  It was very, very close. But I, I, I just don't
• 1:38:45
  understand it, you know, and they, he was ranked.
• 1:38:47
  He was first team all pro when Josh Allen was second.
• 1:38:50
  So how is Josh Allen the MVP? Like how well, what, what are
• 1:38:53
  they, what are we even talking about?
• 1:38:54
  But certainly not this season. You know, he had the injury
• 1:38:57
  earlier in the year and he's not playing well.
• 1:39:00
  I don't trust that Ravens team at all, even against the
• 1:39:03
  darkness. One himself, Aaron Rodgers with
• 1:39:05
  one hand. I don't even know if Josh Allen
• 1:39:07
  has better numbers moving. He has a lot more games left,
• 1:39:10
  but I think he, if you look at his season last year and look at
• 1:39:13
  his season this year, they're almost identical.
• 1:39:16
  So Josh Allen winning an MVP last year the way he did with
• 1:39:20
  almost identical numbers, numbers from from for this year.
• 1:39:24
  It doesn't make any sense. So I don't understand how they
• 1:39:28
  strategically voted on on how Josh Allen won the MVP.
• 1:39:32
  But I like Josh Allen. I, I love him and he's one of
• 1:39:35
  the only very few players from another team that I wear his
• 1:39:38
  number with his name on the back of it.
• 1:39:40
  So I actually like Josh Allen. So I'm not going to attack him
• 1:39:44
  at any kind of way because I I think he's a great player and I
• 1:39:47
  think he's one of the guys that you love not to hate because
• 1:39:52
  everybody hates him. So what's?
• 1:39:55
  Up Java, what's the coin say? The coin gots us.
• 1:39:59
  We're going to the booty. We got tails.
• 1:40:03
  Aaron, Java's on the Steelers here.
• 1:40:04
  Errol, did you make a pick for the actual game here?
• 1:40:06
  You just mentioned Josh Allen. Buffalo and Steelers.
• 1:40:08
  No, no. It's Ravens.
• 1:40:10
  Ravens. Ravens.
• 1:40:10
  Steelers. Ravens in Baltimore.
• 1:40:12
  Ravens. All right, Ravens.
• 1:40:13
  And I'll tell you why Steelers never play well in Baltimore.
• 1:40:17
  Ever so I don't care how bad Lamar Jackson has looked this
• 1:40:22
  year and I don't have I don't care how bad the defense Lamar
• 1:40:25
  Jackson and the the Ravens have. Give me the Ravens in this game,
• 1:40:29
  I might. I might even say a blowout.
• 1:40:31
  So. They'll go to the one of the
• 1:40:33
  Savior Tiers games, the Colts at the Jaguars in Jacksonville.
• 1:40:37
  The Colts on the road are 2 1/2 point favorites.
• 1:40:39
  And it's one of those weird games because again, I.
• 1:40:42
  Don't know where to go? Sauce Garner is not playing, but
• 1:40:46
  the Jaguars offensive line has not been as good in recent weeks
• 1:40:49
  despite their success. A lot of it's come with Trevor
• 1:40:51
  Lawrence actually being able to extend plays and get those other
• 1:40:53
  receivers involved. That being said, Jacksonville's
• 1:40:56
  defense, I don't know if they keep this up forever.
• 1:40:58
  Indy's offense will just be this bad forever.
• 1:40:59
  It will be close, but I think the Colts finally break their
• 1:41:02
  can't win in Jacksonville drought, which has been over a
• 1:41:04
  decade. I personally think Jacksonville
• 1:41:08
  is the biggest fraud team in the league.
• 1:41:10
  I I don't believe in this team at all.
• 1:41:12
  I think Trevor Lawrence is completely trick or treat and
• 1:41:16
  when you throw something at him like a Indianapolis Colts
• 1:41:19
  defense, which has been pretty good this season.
• 1:41:21
  It's a trick or treat. You should have said smell his
• 1:41:23
  feet or something. Well, this is a guy who gets 3
• 1:41:26
  touchdowns and three interceptions in the game,
• 1:41:27
  right? You know, like that's, that's
• 1:41:29
  the definition. It's like the Jameis Winston
• 1:41:31
  3030 season. You know, like it's probably the
• 1:41:34
  best example of a trick or treat.
• 1:41:35
  You know, sometimes you give it, sometimes you take it away.
• 1:41:38
  And I don't trust, I don't trust them at all.
• 1:41:43
  I, I think they're going to score some points.
• 1:41:45
  I hope not to it. I'm not going, I can't take
• 1:41:48
  Jacksonville. Give me the Colts.
• 1:41:50
  Even if Daniel Jones is completely healthy, I'll get the
• 1:41:53
  Colts Jabba the coin. We're going tails again all.
• 1:42:01
  Right, everyone's on the Colts, it looks.
• 1:42:02
  Like oh slam dunk, Colts not even closing.
• 1:42:05
  And Taylor. He had a bad week last week.
• 1:42:08
  Put all your money on Jonathan Taylor this week to put up big
• 1:42:11
  numbers. So.
• 1:42:13
  We got to figure out why Brian Thomas Junior is playing this
• 1:42:16
  way. I have no idea.
• 1:42:18
  You were so high on him at the. Beginning of the year arrow
• 1:42:20
  like. Everyone.
• 1:42:21
  You loved him. I love him still.
• 1:42:23
  Since his first round pick and fantasy.
• 1:42:25
  I still love him, you know. Still love him?
• 1:42:27
  All right, Save your tears game #2 the Cincinnati Bengals at the
• 1:42:31
  Buffalo Bills. The Bills are 5 1/2 point
• 1:42:34
  favorites, 55 and a half point favorites at home in this one.
• 1:42:38
  I do think with Burrow back, you definitely saw a definitely
• 1:42:41
  different level with that Bengals offense.
• 1:42:43
  And this was the Ravens defense. Yeah, they've been bad much of
• 1:42:45
  the year, but they were actually playing better at the time.
• 1:42:47
  And Buffalo's defense, I think he's still trying to find their
• 1:42:49
  way in certain areas. So I do think Cincinnati does
• 1:42:53
  cover this spread. I think the Bills win this game
• 1:42:54
  in a high close shootout. Yeah, so I went with the Bills
• 1:43:01
  and save your tears. Whatever the over is, it's not
• 1:43:05
  going to be high enough. You got to take the over in this
• 1:43:08
  game. These are two guys, two teams
• 1:43:11
  that can't stop anything. It's like Swiss cheese versus
• 1:43:14
  itself. It's so bad.
• 1:43:17
  They just all like as soon as Ed Oliver went down on the Bills
• 1:43:21
  defensive line, it just wasn't the same.
• 1:43:24
  And when I just, I don't understand how the Bengals have
• 1:43:28
  even gotten by without Joe Burrow.
• 1:43:31
  I guess Zach Taylor is going to keep his job because that was
• 1:43:34
  really, it was looking real grim there.
• 1:43:37
  But if they can somehow beat the Bills here, which I think would
• 1:43:41
  be very crazy even with Burrow, I just don't think the defense
• 1:43:46
  can stop Josh Allen. Josh Allen.
• 1:43:48
  It's this is going to be Josh Allen showing it up against Joe
• 1:43:51
  Burrow. This is prime time.
• 1:43:53
  It's going to be paymaker after paymaker.
• 1:43:56
  I think you're going to see crazy stat lines from the two of
• 1:44:00
  them, but give me the Bills. I like the Bills.
• 1:44:03
  I like Josh Allen. I think they're a winner.
• 1:44:06
  I think they're winners. I think the Bengals are freaking
• 1:44:08
  losers and their defense is going to lose the form.
• 1:44:13
  And losers, huh? Fish Wow.
• 1:44:16
  I mean, think about what they did with that defense this year.
• 1:44:19
  And I got the head. I was on the bills as well,
• 1:44:21
  covering the five and a. Half I'm going to go, you know
• 1:44:26
  what I'm going to take a chance on this.
• 1:44:29
  I'm going to go Bengals. I think the Bengals win this
• 1:44:30
  game. I the bills have not impressed
• 1:44:33
  me over the last couple of weeks and I I think Joe Burrow is the
• 1:44:37
  the game changer. So give me Joe Burrow.
• 1:44:39
  And the Bengals all right, and I think this might be the first
• 1:44:41
  time ever the same 3. And Xavier Tears also made my 6
• 1:44:45
  pack as well, the green Chicago Bears at the Green Bay Packers.
• 1:44:49
  The Packers are 6 1/2 point favorites at home.
• 1:44:51
  I did not take the spread for the Ravens against the Steelers.
• 1:44:54
  I actually will hear. I think Chicago's been, they've
• 1:44:57
  been winning a lot, but they've been winning kind of.
• 1:45:00
  Close a lot like. We've been saying with the
• 1:45:01
  Broncos too, kind of struggling against teams, they should be
• 1:45:04
  playing better against a Green Bay I think got a little bit of
• 1:45:07
  a spark. We've seen Jordan love what he's
• 1:45:08
  done at the end of the season and Josh Jacobs getting healthy
• 1:45:11
  now too. This defense definitely looking
• 1:45:14
  better as well with the Packers. I think Green Bay does win this
• 1:45:16
  game and I do think they cover the 6 1/2.
• 1:45:21
  Yeah, so I don't know about the Bears.
• 1:45:25
  I'm not 100% convinced. I love Ben Johnson.
• 1:45:28
  I love that he ripped his shirt off after that win.
• 1:45:31
  You know, they're they're the number one seed right now.
• 1:45:35
  If the season ended today in the NFC is pretty crazy.
• 1:45:38
  Now you have a first year coach on both sides technically.
• 1:45:41
  I mean Brabel's obviously coached before, but first year
• 1:45:44
  guys in the one seed this late into the season, only four weeks
• 1:45:47
  left, five weeks left in the season.
• 1:45:50
  So so this is. 6 1/2 points spread, yeah. 6 1/2, that's a
• 1:45:57
  lot of points. I think a lot.
• 1:45:59
  I think there's a lot of people wise to the Packers probably
• 1:46:01
  going to win this game. But can they cover by a
• 1:46:03
  touchdown? And that's interesting.
• 1:46:06
  I don't know. I think there's going to be a
• 1:46:08
  lot of catch up. But Michael Parsons is having
• 1:46:11
  quite a season. You know, you can say what you
• 1:46:13
  will get. 2 1/2 sacks last week and he's having sacks at the end
• 1:46:18
  of the game to win the game. He's having impactful place.
• 1:46:22
  He's not these like you know who was it?
• 1:46:26
  Thibodeau had like 5 sacks that first year against like nobodies
• 1:46:30
  the last. Three of them against
• 1:46:32
  Washington, I think the other one was against the Raiders or.
• 1:46:34
  Something like that against like a fifth string tackle off the
• 1:46:37
  back, off like the street. You know, it's, it's it's real
• 1:46:41
  impact. And they have him rated this
• 1:46:43
  year as the top defensive edge rusher in the NFL on PFL.
• 1:46:49
  He's that good. That's what they're saying.
• 1:46:51
  I mean, I'm sorry, second behind Miles Garrett.
• 1:46:54
  Yeah. So it's like that because Miles
• 1:46:56
  Garrett having this this season from, you know, he's going to
• 1:46:58
  break the all time sack record this.
• 1:47:01
  But but you know, if he wasn't in the league, this guy would be
• 1:47:04
  defensive player of the year. It's pretty clear he's awesome
• 1:47:07
  and he's taken that defense to another level as they've gotten
• 1:47:11
  used to playing with each other and using him as the weapon that
• 1:47:14
  he is. That's the thing, like you got
• 1:47:16
  to learn your players as a defensive coach, like what
• 1:47:19
  they're good at, what types of blitzes they're good at.
• 1:47:21
  You don't really know like what makes them good at the blitzes?
• 1:47:25
  You know, is it timing? Is it is it like he's great at
• 1:47:28
  reading the cadence? Is it that you know, he's good
• 1:47:31
  at tape study and he knows like a guy will turn his shoulders?
• 1:47:34
  You never know. So I I think that the more that
• 1:47:37
  you work with guys, the more you understand each other.
• 1:47:40
  And I think you're starting to see Michael Parsons get to that
• 1:47:42
  level that we all saw him give me the Packers.
• 1:47:45
  I got hang. I'm going to take the Packers.
• 1:47:49
  And we got. Java is on the bears covering
• 1:47:58
  the thread. I've got the Bears, the Bears, I
• 1:48:02
  got the Bears. I think the Bears have proven
• 1:48:05
  enough to me that they're that you could argue that the best
• 1:48:07
  team in the NFC, but I'm going to say I would argue the Rams
• 1:48:12
  are the best team. They had a bad week last week,
• 1:48:14
  but I, the Rams and the Bears have been proofing and I know
• 1:48:17
  what's going on with the Eagles. My Eagles, I, I, I have no idea
• 1:48:20
  what's going on with them mentally.
• 1:48:21
  They got to figure it out and they better do it quick and
• 1:48:23
  start handing the ball to Saquon Barkley and figure out what
• 1:48:26
  they're not doing offensively. They look absolutely terrible.
• 1:48:29
  So I'm going to go with the. Bench all right, looks like our
• 1:48:33
  friend Wes has arrived with his with his cheese jacket and I
• 1:48:36
  think he's had a bit of a turn with LSU after celebrating Brian
• 1:48:41
  Brian Kelly. I mean, we're making picks,
• 1:48:45
  right? The game is Green Bay and the
• 1:48:46
  Bears, so I don't know that you want me to go down the LSU
• 1:48:50
  rabbit hole, but I figured. It'd be fun.
• 1:48:54
  Yeah, I, I mean, I will, but I'd like to pick that game and just
• 1:48:57
  jump into this, you know, 6 points is a lot for a division
• 1:49:02
  opponent. And, and I, I think that the
• 1:49:05
  Bears are finally a respectable opponent for, for Green Bay.
• 1:49:09
  And I, I think the Bears have, they have as good of a shot at
• 1:49:13
  winning the game outright as they've had in, in years.
• 1:49:17
  Their defense is opportunistic. Statistically, they're not a
• 1:49:20
  great defense in terms of what they allow, but but they they
• 1:49:24
  somehow take the ball away every game and and their offense shows
• 1:49:27
  up. They better figure out a way to
• 1:49:30
  stop Michael Parsons. But you've taken 6 1/2 points.
• 1:49:34
  Yeah, that's a good play. Take the Bears all.
• 1:49:37
  Right. We'll recap some of the other
• 1:49:38
  ones we went over before we get to our last one, which is your
• 1:49:41
  Kansas City Chiefs. Wes, we had the first one we had
• 1:49:43
  was Dallas at Detroit. Detroit, 3 point favorites at
• 1:49:46
  home. What do you got for that one?
• 1:49:48
  Yeah, I'm on Dallas there. I think Dallas is way more
• 1:49:51
  functional of a franchise than everybody predicted going into
• 1:49:54
  the season. I think this coach is better
• 1:49:56
  than than what shows. I don't know how much flowers
• 1:50:00
  Dallas deserves for beating Philadelphia.
• 1:50:02
  That's a division opponent. Those are always coin flips to
• 1:50:05
  me. I called that out, right.
• 1:50:07
  I want to point that out last week.
• 1:50:09
  I I, I did not need points, but but I think Detroit is a little
• 1:50:13
  bit broken. I think that Dan Campbell
• 1:50:15
  calling places is not a good thing.
• 1:50:17
  And we're finding out what that team actually looks like without
• 1:50:21
  Ben Johnson. And we're seeing how good he
• 1:50:23
  actually is by him coaching the Bears, who was a bag of Donuts
• 1:50:26
  last year. So Dallas walking in there
• 1:50:29
  getting points, I don't think Detroit can score points with
• 1:50:32
  Dallas, all right? The next one was the Ravens 6
• 1:50:34
  point favorites at home versus the Steelers.
• 1:50:37
  So that's an odd one because I'm going to contradict myself, but
• 1:50:40
  this is a you. Yeah.
• 1:50:42
  What's up, buddy? All right, I'll talk quiet.
• 1:50:49
  I actually like. I actually like the Ravens here.
• 1:50:51
  I think that the Steelers are highly dysfunctional.
• 1:50:54
  I don't believe that that Buffalo is as good as what they
• 1:50:58
  just did to the Steelers last week.
• 1:51:00
  And I think that Baltimore with a little bit of rest is I think
• 1:51:06
  that they have the ability to make the Steelers look even more
• 1:51:09
  foolish. And this, this might put the
• 1:51:11
  pitchfork in in the Tomlin era all.
• 1:51:13
  Right, so this one was a clean sweep for all of us.
• 1:51:15
  We all had the Colts covering -2 1/2 on the road against the
• 1:51:18
  Jags. No, I think the Colts are the
• 1:51:22
  Vikings two years ago. I think the Colts are.
• 1:51:26
  You know, I'm selling all my Colts stock.
• 1:51:29
  I see them losing at least three to close out the season, and
• 1:51:33
  Jacksonville is playing really well on defense right now.
• 1:51:35
  Trevor Lawrence is making a little bit of a difference.
• 1:51:39
  But no, I like, I like the Jags here for sure.
• 1:51:42
  Outright. I don't need points.
• 1:51:44
  All right, the last one we had before we rounded out with the
• 1:51:46
  Texas and the Chiefs is the Bengals at the Bills.
• 1:51:48
  The Bills are 5 1/2 point favorites at home.
• 1:51:52
  Yeah, I also, I got this one at six and and this is a personal
• 1:51:55
  bet of mine. It's, you know, I bet even units
• 1:51:59
  all across the board. I don't, you know, load up or
• 1:52:01
  bet one big, but I really like this one.
• 1:52:04
  And I'm taking the points of taking Joe Burrow on the road.
• 1:52:07
  I think the Buffalo is coming off of a false sense of
• 1:52:09
  security. Big victory against a bad
• 1:52:12
  Pittsburgh team. And Joe Burrow is one of those
• 1:52:16
  quarterbacks where he doesn't play defense, but the whole team
• 1:52:19
  plays better when he's on the field.
• 1:52:21
  And Cincinnati's going to score points.
• 1:52:24
  That team will score points. So we might be looking at a
• 1:52:27
  shootout, but Cincinnati's going to score points.
• 1:52:30
  And I, I, this game is, is less than five points for sure.
• 1:52:34
  But I, I, again, I, I like Cincinnati to win this one on
• 1:52:36
  the road. I like dogs this week and I like
• 1:52:38
  dogs out right. I farted.
• 1:52:41
  We'll finish it off. We all didn't pick our that, but
• 1:52:43
  we'll we'll have you start this one because you're the Chiefs
• 1:52:45
  guy. Did they finally break their
• 1:52:47
  skid? They're 3 1/2 point favorites
• 1:52:50
  against the against the Texans on the road.
• 1:52:53
  What do you think? No, no.
• 1:52:55
  I think Houston's going to win this game outright.
• 1:52:57
  I think that the Chiefs are completely broken.
• 1:53:00
  I think that right now you're reading in the media, you know,
• 1:53:04
  Joshua Simmons, he is a rookie. That's never made a difference.
• 1:53:08
  But the Chiefs are broken. They can't get off the field on
• 1:53:12
  defense. And you know, their offense has
• 1:53:15
  had flashes. But I don't have, I'm going to
• 1:53:19
  be at the game. I have, I'm going to probably
• 1:53:22
  drink way more than I should to tolerate it.
• 1:53:24
  I heard booze, loud booze last week in the stadium.
• 1:53:28
  I've never been a part of Arrowhead where there was so
• 1:53:30
  much negativity in the air. I'm a spoiled cheese fan because
• 1:53:34
  I only had one year of Alex Smith before we started winning
• 1:53:37
  Super Bowls. But I've never been a part of a,
• 1:53:39
  a just a real like down to earth, regular mainstream
• 1:53:45
  football experience where you're not just going to win the game.
• 1:53:47
  So no, I, I, I think Houston's going to come into Arrowhead and
• 1:53:51
  outright win that game. And I hope I'm.
• 1:53:52
  About to go back off all. Right, We've had a few weeks
• 1:53:55
  where I've picked the Chiefs that actually West has gone
• 1:53:56
  against them. This is not going to be one of
• 1:53:58
  those weeks. I agree that I actually think
• 1:53:59
  there's a really bad match up for these tackles.
• 1:54:02
  Simmons who's not 100% healthy. Then you've got Joan Taylor who
• 1:54:04
  Fish and I both mentioned is horrible and those two edges
• 1:54:07
  might be the best edge duo in the league.
• 1:54:09
  I think the Chiefs pass rush really hasn't done well enough
• 1:54:12
  to compensate for the offensive line issues and the Texans
• 1:54:17
  offensive skill players. Those young players are really
• 1:54:19
  starting to pick it up now, so I'm going to take Houston here
• 1:54:21
  as well. D'amico Ryan's Errol, we you
• 1:54:28
  know, we were talking a little bit earlier in the season before
• 1:54:30
  this revamp, you know, come back by this Texans swaggers, They
• 1:54:35
  look like they were down and out.
• 1:54:36
  They couldn't get nothing done first half of the season.
• 1:54:39
  Look at them now, TJ Stroud, maybe not lighting it up
• 1:54:42
  statistically, but he is very confident he's playing well.
• 1:54:47
  They have good receivers. They have Nico Collins.
• 1:54:50
  They got this rookie Higgins from Iowa State, who's developed
• 1:54:53
  into a really good rookie receiver, kind of under the
• 1:54:55
  radar. But I like that team.
• 1:54:58
  They're running back away, right?
• 1:55:00
  They didn't get mixing this season.
• 1:55:02
  They've been piercing together with this kid from USC.
• 1:55:04
  I like Woody. Marks.
• 1:55:05
  I like marks. I'm not saying I mean we have
• 1:55:07
  the same question. I like.
• 1:55:08
  Him. We encourage you, Woody barks.
• 1:55:10
  I actually like him. I think he's looked pretty good.
• 1:55:12
  He's. Been all right, Chub.
• 1:55:14
  Chub's hard to tackle with one guy, even if he's not the same
• 1:55:17
  player anymore. So they pieced it together and
• 1:55:19
  that's a testament to a great leader.
• 1:55:22
  And I'm pretty sure D'amico Ryan's is one of these rare
• 1:55:26
  defensive guys that you just don't care that he's a defensive
• 1:55:30
  guy. You're going to trust that he's
• 1:55:32
  going to find ways to win games because players are going to
• 1:55:34
  play the right way. He's a great player and he's a
• 1:55:36
  great coach. I'm, I, I my rule of thumb with
• 1:55:40
  the Chiefs and then we have it, what was it, 3 1/2?
• 1:55:42
  Yep. I don't like to take a Chiefs
• 1:55:46
  ever favored more than three points.
• 1:55:48
  I think it always comes down to the referees and a field goal.
• 1:55:53
  So if you're telling me this game's going to be more than a
• 1:55:55
  field goal, I'm telling you you're lying.
• 1:55:57
  I'm taking the points and I think Houston's probably got a
• 1:56:00
  really good chance to win it out right.
• 1:56:02
  It's kind of swayed a little bit this year.
• 1:56:04
  It hasn't been as bad as the been in previous.
• 1:56:06
  Years, yeah, but the backs are up against the wall.
• 1:56:09
  They lose this one. They're not making the playoffs,
• 1:56:13
  but I don't know, like I, I think it's going to come down to
• 1:56:15
  a last second field goal just like it always does for these
• 1:56:18
  guys. What's the, what's the coin say?
• 1:56:20
  It's going to happen. Well, let's let's see if it
• 1:56:23
  agrees and it's got tails. Just kidding, it's ads.
• 1:56:28
  All right. Jabba's giving W some blind
• 1:56:32
  blind face. Say that again.
• 1:56:36
  Jobless court is giving you some blind, blind hope that the
• 1:56:39
  Chiefs can pull out. I hope they can.
• 1:56:42
  And you know, you're right about the IT always seems to come down
• 1:56:47
  to the refs in a field goal that the refs are not on their side
• 1:56:51
  this year. I mean, they that that is very
• 1:56:53
  clear. It almost seems like they're out
• 1:56:55
  to prove that we do not support the Kansas City Chiefs and we
• 1:56:59
  are not on their payroll. I mean, that's how it feels this
• 1:57:01
  year. Taylor, Taylor.
• 1:57:03
  Has to I think. That's the problem.
• 1:57:07
  Well, she she shunned the league with the with the alleged turn
• 1:57:11
  down of Super Bowl halftime, and I wonder if there's some bad
• 1:57:14
  juju in the air for that. Maybe, who knows, but I I'm
• 1:57:19
  going Kansas City, KS City wins this game.
• 1:57:21
  I think it's an outright I wouldn't be surprised if Patrick
• 1:57:23
  the Holmes puts up a 400 spot against a great defense, the
• 1:57:27
  best defense in the league. I have a feeling Patrick Mahomes
• 1:57:31
  has one of these games where you're just like, wow, like
• 1:57:34
  where has this been all season long?
• 1:57:36
  So Gimme Kansas City. I think they went out right.
• 1:57:41
  All right, that's. All we got, I'm not saying
• 1:57:44
  Texas, the Texans haven't been unbelievable and Stingley has
• 1:57:47
  been incredible. I mean, but besides what Miles
• 1:57:51
  Garrett's doing and and Anderson's been really good too.
• 1:57:54
  Will Anderson's really transition into a special place.
• 1:57:58
  He's a great. Deal.
• 1:58:01
  He's so great, man. It's so fun to watch and
• 1:58:03
  everybody was like questioning him coming from Alabama, coming
• 1:58:06
  from Nick Saban, he's just fun to watch.
• 1:58:09
  It's been move, getting inside, going on the outside.
• 1:58:12
  He's just fun to watch and you could see the development of
• 1:58:16
  what he has been over the last two years.
• 1:58:18
  He's a completely different player and it has a lot to do
• 1:58:21
  with coaching. And yes, I would agree with you,
• 1:58:23
  Fish. I did attack the coaching over
• 1:58:26
  there with the Texans and I thought maybe maybe this could
• 1:58:28
  be an early exit for, you know, the Texans and the coaching
• 1:58:34
  staff. But I'm going to take back.
• 1:58:36
  I mean, there's they're they're playing hard for the coach.
• 1:58:39
  And if you're seeing the team play hard for the coach, he's
• 1:58:42
  got something so. There was an early exit.
• 1:58:44
  For the same thing with Aaron Glenn, everybody says so all the
• 1:58:47
  Jet fans were pushing him out or automatically.
• 1:58:50
  And look, they traded 2 of their best players and they're
• 1:58:53
  winning, OK, That tells you that they're playing hard for their
• 1:58:56
  coach. It means they believe in him.
• 1:58:58
  And if you believe in your coach, you have something.
• 1:59:02
  So D'amico Ryan's obviously has the team and the team's
• 1:59:07
  following his lead and and you could see it by what they're
• 1:59:09
  doing over the last couple of weeks.
• 1:59:11
  If D'amico Ryan's ever became available, Fish would donate
• 1:59:13
  some of his life savings for us. You've.
• 1:59:15
  Been speaking a lot tonight and cutting in.
• 1:59:17
  I'm very impressed. I mean, you've been like in your
• 1:59:21
  own little shell or cocoon or turtle dove or whatever the
• 1:59:24
  hell, your little turtle shell between your legs and hopefully
• 1:59:27
  you're shaving over there soon. So let's go, let's move it.
• 1:59:31
  We call this Let's parlay. Parlay.
• 1:59:41
  It's time for Let's parlay. All right, ladies, gentlemen, we
• 1:59:46
  have Wesley Worldwide West in the feed.
• 1:59:51
  You know, we call him Black Hawk West.
• 1:59:52
  We can call him The Dirty Western or we can call him the
• 1:59:58
  Bears W because believe it or not, he grew up in Chicago and
• 2:00:01
  he's really a Bears fan. But he has lived in Kansas City
• 2:00:05
  all this time, so he roots on. Well, I guess we could say he's
• 2:00:08
  a front runner right now because he's a Kansas City G's fan as
• 2:00:11
  well. Or not in the place.
• 2:00:12
  I guess I could say I'm a front runner too because I'm a Jet fan
• 2:00:16
  rooting for the Eagles all the time.
• 2:00:17
  So I guess I'm a front runner too, West.
• 2:00:20
  So we got something in common there and.
• 2:00:22
  But. The the jerseys don't match
• 2:00:25
  anyways. Wes, you have 4 picks.
• 2:00:27
  I do, I do. Let's let's start with college.
• 2:00:30
  Let's start with Friday night. We're going to start with.
• 2:00:33
  The. American Athletic.
• 2:00:36
  I am on North Texas. This one started at 3 1/2.
• 2:00:41
  There's some big money put on Tulane.
• 2:00:44
  It's been very public the departure of the head coach,
• 2:00:47
  although he's going to stick around and coach them in this
• 2:00:49
  game with or without that news. I think if for you know those of
• 2:00:54
  you that don't watch college football or maybe you do you
• 2:00:57
  just don't pay attention to the American Athletic teams get to
• 2:01:00
  know the name Drew Westmaker. This is a quarterback that's
• 2:01:04
  probably probably going to transfer to a bigger school is a
• 2:01:09
  4000 yard passer. He's leading the number one
• 2:01:12
  scoring offense in the entire country.
• 2:01:14
  But this is one of those quarterbacks that next year, as
• 2:01:18
  we we get closer to the season, he's he's going to make his way
• 2:01:22
  onto some of those Heisman big board type lists.
• 2:01:27
  He's a he's a freshman this year.
• 2:01:28
  I don't I'm not sure if he's a true freshman or a red shirt to
• 2:01:31
  wear his draft eligibility. But but in any case, this is a
• 2:01:34
  29 touchdown, 4 interception quarterback for North Texas.
• 2:01:38
  I don't think Tulane can score points with them.
• 2:01:40
  So I'm happy to lay 2 1/2, which is basically a field goal.
• 2:01:44
  Tulane's got the better defense, but I'm I'm on North Texas in
• 2:01:48
  this one. And then it gets real
• 2:01:50
  interesting because because you know, as a fan, I'm going to
• 2:01:53
  cheer for Duke. This is not a pic, but I'm going
• 2:01:55
  to cheer for Duke because then the ACC is out of it.
• 2:01:58
  And then I think we see chaos. Then I think we see the North
• 2:02:01
  Carolina Clemson to the SEC talks start to get really real
• 2:02:05
  and Florida State to the Big 10 and all of that.
• 2:02:08
  So, but in any case, late 2 1/2 University of North Texas
• 2:02:12
  winning the American Championship mean.
• 2:02:16
  Green versus Green Wave. Was that your number 2 or #1
• 2:02:20
  that was. One, no, that that's, that's
• 2:02:22
  just that that's number one pick.
• 2:02:23
  I was just long winded with it. This one, I have gone back and
• 2:02:28
  forth on this one and and you know what I am, I'm going to go
• 2:02:34
  right back where I started and this is what I picked earlier in
• 2:02:36
  the season and I'm going to I'm calling for the sweep.
• 2:02:38
  I'm taking Alabama outright, not laying any points.
• 2:02:41
  Bama's going to beat Georgia for the second time this year.
• 2:02:44
  Bama's got the better quarterback.
• 2:02:45
  The defenses are almost the same, but I like Bama's past
• 2:02:50
  defense a little bit better. And I think that when they jump
• 2:02:53
  ahead, Georgia's going to have to make some mistakes.
• 2:02:56
  I don't believe in Gunner Stockton.
• 2:02:57
  I think, I think that he's he's the right quarterback for the
• 2:03:00
  schedule that they played. Can you say Roll Tide?
• 2:03:08
  What does that say right there today?
• 2:03:11
  That's right. So I'm, I'm taking I'm taking
• 2:03:14
  Bama and I'm going to take the points, which at this point is 2
• 2:03:17
  1/2. Hang on.
• 2:03:19
  He he wants he wants to join. What's up, buddy?
• 2:03:24
  Say hi. So yeah, roll time then we're
• 2:03:32
  going to go let's go to the NFLI mean I I call it was one of the
• 2:03:37
  plays on your Oh, dude, let's not do that if.
• 2:03:40
  I drew an asterisk on. Himself.
• 2:03:43
  Yeah, that's been his thing. He likes to put tiger stripes on
• 2:03:46
  his face. I I brought him back a Shaker
• 2:03:48
  from Clemson, and so he wants to be a Tiger and I can't get him
• 2:03:53
  to tell me if he'd like to be a Mizzou Tiger or a Clemson Tiger.
• 2:03:59
  So NFL I, I'm going to the Bengals.
• 2:04:03
  That's, that's my other pick. I got it at +6.
• 2:04:07
  That pick caused me to up my unit by 20% for the entire week
• 2:04:12
  because I wanted to have more money on that game.
• 2:04:14
  But I won't just do that on one game.
• 2:04:16
  It's, it's, it's the entire slate of games that that I up
• 2:04:20
  everything on. So I like Cincinnati, possibly
• 2:04:23
  outright, but I definitely like receiving points in that
• 2:04:26
  situation. And let's go back to college.
• 2:04:31
  This is sacrilegious, but I'm going to lay the 4 1/2 on Ohio
• 2:04:33
  State. And I'm going to try and not be
• 2:04:37
  a fanboy here. But when you watch them, I mean,
• 2:04:41
  and a lot was made today on the different media outlets with
• 2:04:44
  Ohio State, how they've ran the fewest.
• 2:04:48
  They've played two less games than than most of the rest of
• 2:04:52
  the country because of how little plays they're running.
• 2:04:55
  They have fresh legs Ryan Day is putting on a master class at at
• 2:04:59
  coaching just how to bring along a quarterback the way that he
• 2:05:02
  started with with Jules earlier getting sex.
• 2:05:05
  He hasn't asked him to win any games.
• 2:05:07
  He he's saving Jeremiah Smith getting Innis and and tape
• 2:05:12
  receptions at the right time. That defense does not allow
• 2:05:15
  points and every time I watch them, they have no desire to
• 2:05:18
  score more than 35 points. They're not shutting it down.
• 2:05:22
  They're just accidentally crushing you.
• 2:05:25
  They, they just, they're not playing with their food.
• 2:05:29
  They just look like there's more there.
• 2:05:31
  And Ryan has been thinking about the playoffs and as he said,
• 2:05:34
  post game against against the team up north last week.
• 2:05:37
  We're playing for hardware now and that you just watch them.
• 2:05:41
  Oregon is another one. I get that same feeling when I
• 2:05:44
  when I watch them, there's another gear there somewhere.
• 2:05:48
  I kind of feel that way about Oklahoma as well.
• 2:05:50
  But when I watch Ohio State, 4 1/2 points.
• 2:05:54
  If if I said you have to lay 4 1/2 points and you get to take
• 2:05:58
  Ohio State, is there a team in the country where you would you
• 2:06:01
  would take the other guy? Probably not.
• 2:06:08
  And so that's the that's really the way I'm looking at.
• 2:06:11
  And you could probably even press that number if, if I told
• 2:06:14
  you, you had to lay 6 1/2 and you get Ohio State.
• 2:06:18
  Is there anybody? Maybe Alabama.
• 2:06:20
  Maybe maybe you start to get into Alabama, you start to get
• 2:06:24
  into Georgia, you know, you start to get into some of those
• 2:06:27
  SEC teams. But I I don't really, I don't
• 2:06:31
  really know that that there's any other team.
• 2:06:33
  So at late 4 1/2, it is in Indiana.
• 2:06:37
  It is not going to feel, it's not going to feel like a
• 2:06:40
  lopsided environment. You're talking about Columbus,
• 2:06:42
  which is, you know, 2 hour drive.
• 2:06:46
  They they've been there more than any other team other than
• 2:06:48
  Wisconsin. So it's going to be a pretty,
• 2:06:51
  pretty mixed environment in in Indianapolis.
• 2:06:54
  Yeah, you. Got to imagine there's a lot of
• 2:06:56
  Hawaii State fans. It's everywhere in the Midwest,
• 2:06:59
  Michigan. Yeah, we're, we're like roaches.
• 2:07:02
  We're everywhere. All right, is that, is that #4
• 2:07:08
  that was a score shot right there.
• 2:07:10
  That was, that was very impressive, very fluent.
• 2:07:15
  And you did it when your son was popping in, popping out.
• 2:07:17
  I mean, you're the purple popper over there.
• 2:07:21
  The purple popper I. Think the barger was black?
• 2:07:23
  Well, it's you kind of got to have eyes on the back of your
• 2:07:28
  head with this kid running around.
• 2:07:30
  There's no telling what he'll do.
• 2:07:31
  That's what parents do, Errol. We know where our kids are at.
• 2:07:34
  We don't even have to see them. OK.
• 2:07:37
  Jabba, I mean chill. It.
• 2:07:39
  Being a. Parent you, you got first of
• 2:07:43
  all, I want to be a dad, all right.
• 2:07:45
  I got a girl that is up and down when it comes to having
• 2:07:48
  children. So just so you know, that was my
• 2:07:51
  that. Was the.
• 2:07:52
  Curveball right there. That was the curve.
• 2:07:54
  I'm going to piss everybody off tonight if she's watching so,
• 2:07:57
  but it seems like that's that's the trend I have tonight,
• 2:08:02
  pissing people off. It's good for you and you leave
• 2:08:08
  a reaction, you know? Do I ever?
• 2:08:12
  That was give. That was give West credit.
• 2:08:15
  Where he deserves. It he gave praise to Oklahoma,
• 2:08:17
  at Oklahoma, as he calls it, and it was level headed about Ohio
• 2:08:20
  State. So well, you know, the deal with
• 2:08:23
  Oklahoma this year, I like the style that they're playing.
• 2:08:26
  I I don't that's the team I'm the most scared of as a Buckeye
• 2:08:30
  fan in the playoffs because of the way they played the defense.
• 2:08:33
  They went into T town and punched him in the mouth And and
• 2:08:35
  not a lot of teams can do that. And, and, and Brett Venables,
• 2:08:39
  you know, drives me crazy how he's, you know, he's, he's he's
• 2:08:42
  the star player. You know, his name is constantly
• 2:08:44
  mentioned throughout the broadcast, but you know, they,
• 2:08:47
  that team looks tough. It doesn't look like the, the
• 2:08:50
  run and gun that that they were under Lincoln Riley and Stoops.
• 2:08:54
  They actually look like a team that was made to be in the SEC.
• 2:08:57
  And that in that move of getting a defensive minded coach and,
• 2:09:02
  and, you know, putting a team on the field that looks the part of
• 2:09:06
  an SEC team. I I still get, I still get a
• 2:09:10
  really gross feeling when I'm in the state of, of Oklahoma, but
• 2:09:15
  that team, they've gotten my respect this year.
• 2:09:17
  Before we let you go, I just want to give a shout out to all
• 2:09:20
  the fans. I, I don't want to say this, but
• 2:09:22
  I'm going to say it. The Chiefs are going to make the
• 2:09:26
  playoffs. They're going to find a way to
• 2:09:28
  make the playoffs this year. I it's typical and I don't want
• 2:09:32
  to see it, but I'm telling you, Pittsburgh is not for real.
• 2:09:35
  And I don't know if I trust the Chargers either because they
• 2:09:38
  can't stay healthy. So and they're losing every
• 2:09:41
  single guy every single week. And it just seems like every
• 2:09:45
  single time somebody drops at the end of the season.
• 2:09:48
  And I think the Chargers are going to skip out of the
• 2:09:49
  playoffs and somehow Kansas City's going to sneak into the
• 2:09:53
  playoffs. Well, financially there's,
• 2:09:56
  there's a lot politically going on on both sides of state Line
• 2:09:59
  Rd. in Kansas and Missouri and, and the Royals and the Chiefs in
• 2:10:02
  the stadium deal. And you know, there's a lot of
• 2:10:05
  opinions out there, but the reality is the Chiefs are going
• 2:10:07
  to get a new stadium and they're going to get this deal done here
• 2:10:09
  in the next, you know, 6-6 to 12 months.
• 2:10:12
  Their lease ends on the on the 30.
• 2:10:15
  My tickets are going to get incredibly expensive and I would
• 2:10:18
  like that not to be for a team that doesn't make the playoffs
• 2:10:21
  because I sell a couple of them so that I can play for the rest
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  So stay away from that. Anyways, we love you, Wes.
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  this evening. Suspended guard Terry Rozier and
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  his lawyers are running out of excuses, at least in the media,
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  according to an ESPN report When ESPN first published a story
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  back in October about a large tax lien against Rozier.
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  Rozier and his lawyer Jim Trustee and tested this story
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  According to a tax professional source, the ESPN article sought
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  ESPN seems to have worked and Rozier seems.
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  To be even more in. More hot water than the already
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  guy. The 4th member of the Hockey
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  Canada 5, who were acquitted this past summer of sexual
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  tonight's in like Flynn is the greatest San Diego Chargers of
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  all time. And I, I am not going to change
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  it because this is what I was doing before the show and I was,
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  Ladies and gentlemen, at #10 now, I, I checked out a lot of
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  different, you know, statistics and rankings the way some of the
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  these guys are ranking these players.
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  And I thought rancorrancor.com gives you the best list as far
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  as I'm concerned because they Add all the players.
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  I disagree on a lot of them, but I have their rankings.
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  All right, so at #10 they got Fred Dean. 73 year old Fred Dean
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  played a significant amount of time.
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  He was a great player for the Chargers.
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  There's no question that he was. I wasn't alive to see him.
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  I would not put him in my top ten.
• 2:17:27
  I would not I, I, I don't remember Fred Dean as far as I'm
• 2:17:31
  concerned, I've heard about him, but I wouldn't put him on my top
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  hat 10 if I, I haven't seen him specifically on my list.
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  I'm going to go at #10 who they ranked at number.
• 2:17:42
  Hold on, I I got a moment right over here at #16 I think he's
• 2:17:47
  much higher than this. I'm going to go with Vincent
• 2:17:50
  Jackson. Vincent Jackson was one of the
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  more under underrated wide receivers. 42 year old foot and
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  jammer played with him. He's sensational, great size,
• 2:18:00
  great ability, leaping ability. This guy had some sensational
• 2:18:04
  seasons with Phillip Rivers. When everybody talks about the
• 2:18:07
  weapons that they had with Damien Thomas in, they had one
• 2:18:10
  of the best tight ends in the world and out of all time.
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  People forget about Vincent Jackson and how long and how
• 2:18:16
  athletic he was. I would put Vincent Jackson at
• 2:18:19
  #10 at #9 They have Melvin Ingram who's still in the
• 2:18:23
  league, you know, hopping around in different places.
• 2:18:27
  I would not put Melvin Ingram in my top ten.
• 2:18:29
  I don't know why they have him in my top ten.
• 2:18:31
  That's ridiculous. He's not as good as they made
• 2:18:34
  him out to be. God could never stay healthy
• 2:18:36
  when he was over there with the Chargers.
• 2:18:38
  He's still 36 years old and still playing in the NFL.
• 2:18:41
  But I'm going to go with Eric Weddell.
• 2:18:42
  Eric Weddell to me is a borderline Hall of Famer, one of
• 2:18:46
  the great safeties in the league.
• 2:18:48
  I I love the way he play hard nosed, reminded me a lot of us
• 2:18:52
  of of different safeties in the past and comparable to a couple
• 2:18:56
  of safeties that are on the league right now.
• 2:18:59
  Fun to watch. He always was a ball hawk and he
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  he know how to blitz and any kind of defense that he ran.
• 2:19:05
  So I'm going Eric Weddell at #9 at #8.
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  They have the great Antonio Cromartie.
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  I think he's higher than that. So at #5 and I'm going to, I'm
• 2:19:18
  going to say this because I actually, no, you don't want,
• 2:19:23
  I'm not going to. I, I, I got to put him in.
• 2:19:25
  I, I'm going to take, I'm going to take it.
• 2:19:28
  I'm going to move Antonio Kamardi up a little bit.
• 2:19:31
  I'm going to add this guy because I'm looking at it.
• 2:19:33
  I'm going to go with John Carney.
• 2:19:35
  John Carney, one of the best kickers, one of the greatest
• 2:19:37
  kickers of all time, should be in the Hall of Fame.
• 2:19:40
  I I don't know if he is yet, but he to me is one of the greatest
• 2:19:44
  kickers that of all time. I think he had the longest kick
• 2:19:47
  in NFL history at one point. I think it was 62 yards.
• 2:19:50
  And it was broken recently, I think by Tucker.
• 2:19:53
  And then somebody else broke it from I think the Cowboys kicker
• 2:19:56
  broke. Yeah.
• 2:19:57
  So I'm going to go with the kicker.
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  I'm going to put him there. And that's my kicker.
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  I'm going to put Sean Carney at #7 I'm going to put, well, they
• 2:20:06
  had Sean Merriman, love Sharon. Sean Merriman.
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  He's been on the show. I would not put Sean Merriman in
• 2:20:12
  my top 10. I think he was very overrated.
• 2:20:15
  That's just my opinion. I thought he was overrated.
• 2:20:17
  He had two great seasons and I know Sean wouldn't want to hear
• 2:20:20
  this. I, it seems like I like to piss
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  off charge of players, but I, I would not put him there.
• 2:20:28
  I would move him out. I think Sean Merriman's number
• 2:20:31
  11, I think he's on outside looking in.
• 2:20:33
  There's too many great players at #7.
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  I would put Antonio Kamardi. I think Antonio Kamardi is one
• 2:20:38
  of the greatest safeties. I mean greatest corners, DBS
• 2:20:41
  they've ever had. I remember when he was drafted,
• 2:20:43
  had a sensational career over there and then he went to The
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  Jets. It was sensational.
• 2:20:47
  I I think he was very underrated, very run underrated
• 2:20:51
  over there with that defense at when it was at the top of its
• 2:20:54
  game. He was one of the best corners
• 2:20:56
  in the league for a very long time.
• 2:20:58
  So I put Antonio Kamardi at #7. At number six, they have Phillip
• 2:21:02
  Rivers. I think they're crazy.
• 2:21:04
  I think Phillip Rivers should be higher than that.
• 2:21:07
  I would say at number six. I'm going to put a tenant tight
• 2:21:10
  end. He is a Hall of Famer and we
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  know his son Kellen Winslow was a great, great player.
• 2:21:15
  There's no question he was a great player.
• 2:21:18
  But I in the top, in the top five, I wouldn't put him there.
• 2:21:24
  I there's just so many other great players and I just
• 2:21:28
  wouldn't put him there. So I put Kellen Winslow at #6 I
• 2:21:33
  sensational player, Hall of Famer, one of the greatest tight
• 2:21:36
  ends of all time, but I wouldn't put him on my top five at #5
• 2:21:40
  they have Kellen Winslow. I'm going to have Lance
• 2:21:44
  Allsworth now. He was a wide receiver.
• 2:21:46
  He's one of the greatest underrated wide receivers of all
• 2:21:50
  time. If you look at his numbers,
• 2:21:52
  they're comparable to some of the elite wide receivers of all
• 2:21:54
  time. He is.
• 2:21:56
  He was a special player and he was one of the elite guys in
• 2:22:00
  that sand with those San Diego Charger teams, the elite San
• 2:22:02
  Diego Charger team. So I'm going to go Lance
• 2:22:05
  Allsworth at #5 at #4 I'm going to go, well, they have Lance
• 2:22:12
  Allsworth. I have Antonio Gates, one of the
• 2:22:16
  greatest tight ends. I think you could put him in the
• 2:22:19
  top three of all time. You can argue that he was just
• 2:22:22
  fun to watch. Big Long play basketball.
• 2:22:25
  Fun, fun player. Very exciting and extreme when
• 2:22:31
  it comes to the media work. When he spoke to the media,
• 2:22:33
  always had a smile on his face. Love to watch him play.
• 2:22:36
  I would have him at #4 at #2. I'm going to put Junior say out.
• 2:22:44
  Junior say how I know a lot of people put him in my top 2,
• 2:22:47
  their top 2 and they have him in the top 2.
• 2:22:49
  I love Junior Sehal. I loved him.
• 2:22:52
  He was great everywhere he went. Greatest I you could argue top
• 2:22:56
  five greatest linebackers ever play the game.
• 2:22:58
  Some people put him in the top three Hall of Famer special.
• 2:23:03
  Sad what happened to junior Say how?
• 2:23:05
  And my heart goes out to him and his family.
• 2:23:07
  Everything that he did, he did it right on the football field.
• 2:23:10
  Great team leader, great player. Knew how to blitz, knew how to
• 2:23:14
  get to the quarterback. Very good in coverage.
• 2:23:16
  Probably the best coverage linebacker to ever play the
• 2:23:19
  game. I put junior say how at #3 at #2
• 2:23:24
  I'm going to have to put Phillip Rivers.
• 2:23:27
  Phillip Rivers was fun to watch. I, I said it and I've always
• 2:23:33
  loved the guy. Window thrower, one of the more
• 2:23:35
  accurate quarterbacks of the league when he was at the top of
• 2:23:39
  his game. I everything he did with his
• 2:23:42
  personality, his flair, You like him, you hate him, everybody.
• 2:23:47
  He was one of the most hated players in the league, but one
• 2:23:49
  of the most loved players on his team.
• 2:23:52
  Everything about him screams to me of super stardom.
• 2:23:55
  The guy's a Hall of Fame. I don't know if he's first
• 2:23:57
  ballot, but he is on the ballot this year.
• 2:23:59
  He will get into the Hall of Fame and Steve White will be
• 2:24:02
  owing me a nice steak dinner, So I'm going.
• 2:24:05
  Phillip Rivers at #2 and at #1. He played for The Jets and he
• 2:24:11
  played for this team. He was traded for one of the
• 2:24:13
  greatest speed demon quarterbacks of all time.
• 2:24:17
  You know what I'm talking about. Speedy.
• 2:24:19
  Michael Vick was traded for Ladainian Thomlson.
• 2:24:23
  If people forget, Ladainian Thomlson is one of the greatest
• 2:24:27
  running backs to ever play the game.
• 2:24:29
  His workouts were strategic and uncomparable.
• 2:24:34
  The things that this guy did off the field are insane.
• 2:24:38
  I've never seen a guy work out like this guy.
• 2:24:40
  His training methods were sick and on the football field,
• 2:24:44
  right. Some people would say it was
• 2:24:46
  Barry Sanders esque. Him and Saquon are the closest
• 2:24:50
  to Barry Sanders. The guy spinned.
• 2:24:52
  He his agility, his athletic ability.
• 2:24:55
  He wasn't big, but he was so strong.
• 2:24:57
  His leg strength was just ridiculous.
• 2:25:00
  I I mean, if you watch his workouts, they were ridiculous.
• 2:25:03
  I mean, this guy was the greatest running back of this
• 2:25:06
  era. I think you could argue that he
• 2:25:08
  was. I'm going with Danny and Thomas
• 2:25:10
  as the number one greatest Charger of all time.
• 2:25:16
  There is quarterbacks and there is a quarterback that should
• 2:25:19
  have been on this list, but I didn't put him there because
• 2:25:22
  there's just so many great players.
• 2:25:23
  The Chargers had that and I didn't put a lot of defensive
• 2:25:26
  players. They were all really offensive
• 2:25:28
  players. I but Antonio Kamardi is
• 2:25:31
  definitely on my list. I, I loved Antonio Kamardi.
• 2:25:34
  I really did. So I put him higher than a lot
• 2:25:37
  of guys because I just love the way he played and when he was a
• 2:25:41
  Jet he was my him and Darrelle Revis were arguably my favorite
• 2:25:44
  players. So I wasn't a brilliant Edwards
• 2:25:47
  fan that's for sure. And I wasn't a Bart Scott fan
• 2:25:51
  either. So I but I loved Antonio Camardi
• 2:25:54
  and I think they were the best duo The Jets have ever had.
• 2:25:56
  And as far as secondaries in the league for like 3 years they had
• 2:26:00
  the best. I don't think you can argue the
• 2:26:01
  Revis Island and Crow. I mean, when they played at the
• 2:26:05
  top level, I don't think anybody wanted to throw on either side.
• 2:26:09
  So one was mean and and played mean.
• 2:26:12
  And I'm talking about Dora Rivas.
• 2:26:13
  And the other guy was athletically gifted, long and
• 2:26:16
  and had the agility to do a lot of things and intercept the
• 2:26:19
  ball, which by the way, I think I won.
• 2:26:20
  I think one season he had like 13 interceptions or some
• 2:26:23
  ridiculous number with the Chargers.
• 2:26:25
  I I don't know exactly the number he was.
• 2:26:27
  He was, I think he had three in the in the one game that Peyton
• 2:26:30
  Manning threw 6 interceptions. And I remember that he had an
• 2:26:33
  unbelievable season. He was up.
• 2:26:35
  He was our first, first team all defensive player.
• 2:26:38
  And Crow, I think it was early in his career when he did it
• 2:26:41
  too. He was fun to watch and I loved
• 2:26:44
  Crow. So I no, nobody, nobody,
• 2:26:47
  including yours truly would ever take A and I think he was the
• 2:26:51
  only defensive player I picked in I think he was the only
• 2:26:54
  defensive player I. Bet yeah, because the the two
• 2:26:56
  pass rushers at the beginning and Fred Dean was 100 sack plus.
• 2:26:59
  He wasn't in my top. 10 He wasn't in your top ten.
• 2:27:01
  And then Melvin Inger, I was surprised with that number. 9
• 2:27:03
  Eric Weddell Eric Weddell. Weddell should have been much
• 2:27:05
  higher. Eleven.
• 2:27:07
  Was Nick Hardwick on your list? He was a good center.
• 2:27:08
  I would have taken him over Ingram, too.
• 2:27:10
  And then Carney, who's also been on our show last year as well.
• 2:27:13
  Carney is definitely one of the greatest.
• 2:27:14
  Kickers. One of the greatest kickers all
• 2:27:16
  the time. I mean, he's got to be in my top
• 2:27:18
  ten, but they had a lot of other good players that we didn't.
• 2:27:21
  Sean Merriman, he was there. I'm not a big Melvin Ingram fan.
• 2:27:25
  No, he's way too high on this list.
• 2:27:27
  Louis Kelcher was also on this list.
• 2:27:31
  Sid Gilman, Jamal Williams, Austin Eckler, Ron Mix.
• 2:27:36
  They were great. Players.
• 2:27:37
  Williams was a good nose tackle too.
• 2:27:39
  Kind of played right with Merriman on those.
• 2:27:40
  Teams and I loved Vincent Jackson loved the way he plays a
• 2:27:43
  very rest in peace. By the way, I I love I loved
• 2:27:46
  Vincent Jackson, everything about him.
• 2:27:47
  So it's a shame that he he got he's gone so early in his career
• 2:27:51
  and his life. So I I loved watching him play.
• 2:27:54
  All right, ladies and gentlemen, we got King of the Hill.
• 2:27:57
  And here's the King of the Hill. This, Bobby, is the Beltline.
• 2:28:01
  You never ever hit below that. Not that kind of king of the
• 2:28:05
  hill, you dumb ready? Are.
• 2:28:08
  You ready? This is King of the Hill.
• 2:28:11
  All right, guys, welcome to King of the Hill.
• 2:28:16
  Oh oh. This game is a good one.
• 2:28:18
  We don't do it that all that often anymore, but if you
• 2:28:20
  haven't seen in the past, we used to.
• 2:28:23
  We have 3 rounds, we got some trivia and we're going to
• 2:28:26
  compete for a chance to take on the game.
• 2:28:27
  The thing is, Errol marks the winner, has a chance to dethrone
• 2:28:31
  the king, but first they got to go to the peasant fight.
• 2:28:33
  Well, they'll take on each other with a question and then Errol
• 2:28:36
  will decide who will take on finals each other in the joust
• 2:28:43
  with a tough my Indo to make it to the last round to take on the
• 2:28:46
  king. Some of my ass where we.
• 2:28:47
  Will vote democratically to try to overthrow his tyrannical
• 2:28:52
  monarchy. Are you guys ready to play King
• 2:28:55
  of the Hill? Let's.
• 2:28:57
  Do it. All right, here we go.
• 2:28:59
  Let's get the camera set. Let's get the king up top.
• 2:29:03
  I'll get in the Jesters chair and guys, we have it set up
• 2:29:07
  right here. I'm going to show you the
• 2:29:09
  category. We'll go in this order from left
• 2:29:11
  to right, Jabba, Speedy, Jarrett, and then Tommy will go
• 2:29:14
  twice and we'll snake back around the other way.
• 2:29:17
  Here it is. They put it back up with the
• 2:29:21
  first round. Round one peasant fight.
• 2:29:27
  I want you guys to tell us who you think are the best defensive
• 2:29:34
  players of the 2025, just one season.
• 2:29:39
  So I want you to go through it. You can get some PFF rankings up
• 2:29:43
  there. And are you not your favorite?
• 2:29:45
  Maybe you want to get some more traditionalist rankings, you
• 2:29:49
  know. He says PFF isn't his favorite,
• 2:29:51
  but he used it in the opener today at PFF well.
• 2:29:54
  That's because I had to. Someone made coming made.
• 2:30:02
  It was a good point to make. The Giants gave up on a guy who
• 2:30:05
  is 18th overall a defensive. Tackle.
• 2:30:08
  And and Brave was like, yeah, we'll take them, thanks.
• 2:30:12
  You suck. So you guys are going to tell
• 2:30:14
  me. Grobar.
• 2:30:16
  Those guys. So let's get into that our our
• 2:30:18
  camera setup and we'll start our game right now.
• 2:30:23
  Start with Java Chamberlain. I mean, obviously everybody's
• 2:30:27
  going to go obviously now there, but I I'd like watching Will
• 2:30:31
  Anderson just his speed there. There was a play a couple weeks
• 2:30:35
  ago. Just his relentlessness have
• 2:30:36
  never given up on a play and how he's able to just come off the
• 2:30:41
  edge and even drop into coverage and just to see like how
• 2:30:45
  effective he is and like how he's evolved his game into into
• 2:30:49
  what it is. I just like seeing dudes like
• 2:30:52
  that and he I wouldn't want to meet him in a dark alley so he
• 2:30:57
  he gets another point for that as well.
• 2:30:59
  Complete player by year 3. Pretty awesome.
• 2:31:01
  He's probably A6 tool player if you know what I mean.
• 2:31:05
  I don't want to know what you mean, but I guess I sunk into
• 2:31:09
  my. Head.
• 2:31:10
  That's for a difference and. If I asked you if it hangs left
• 2:31:12
  to right, now you're giving me about tools and what kind of
• 2:31:16
  tool. I'm trying to estimate what it
• 2:31:19
  looks like. By the way, Fisher.
• 2:31:23
  Analytics you told me we can't do.
• 2:31:24
  This if we ever do bring that back, we're we're doing Nathan
• 2:31:26
  versus Java. Well.
• 2:31:30
  What happened to Nathan right now?
• 2:31:36
  It's time for speed, he's answer.
• 2:31:37
  All right, I'll go with his teammate.
• 2:31:38
  The one that Errol you kind of mentioned before has been the
• 2:31:41
  best corner in football so far this season.
• 2:31:43
  That's Derek Stingley. Even against bigger bodied
• 2:31:45
  receivers who's been his weakness in his career, he's
• 2:31:48
  still been locked down. He's there one stretches in the
• 2:31:51
  year where he had an under 50 QBR allowed when he was targeted
• 2:31:56
  in coverage. So granted, we've mentioned OK,
• 2:31:58
  the AFC S soft schedule to an extent understandable, but the
• 2:32:01
  rest of the schedule is still pretty easy.
• 2:32:02
  And when the offense wasn't doing anything, like the defense
• 2:32:05
  really had held their own and seeing there's a huge reason
• 2:32:07
  why. I mean, I'll take Miles Garrett,
• 2:32:09
  19 sacks right now, probably won't break the record this
• 2:32:12
  year. I mean, he's going to win
• 2:32:14
  Defensive Player of the year. He probably should be getting
• 2:32:17
  more consideration for MVP to be honest.
• 2:32:20
  I agree. With you, if it wasn't just a
• 2:32:22
  quarterback award now, you probably would be the MVP.
• 2:32:26
  Mom if their team wasn't God awful, but.
• 2:32:28
  Well, that too, but they would be the.
• 2:32:31
  Worst, it's a. Pretty good point.
• 2:32:33
  He is unstoppable, Tommy. All right, so I'm going to
• 2:32:38
  actually go TJ Watt. Of course Watt has had, I would
• 2:32:41
  say more explosive other seasons, but the thing with the
• 2:32:44
  TJ Watt is you get this explosiveness that you don't get
• 2:32:47
  at a miles Garrett, the way he just he just rushes an edge.
• 2:32:51
  It's just like unnatural. It's absolutely unnatural.
• 2:32:54
  It's absolutely amazing to see him watch this year.
• 2:32:58
  There's certain times in a game you could see, you know, of
• 2:32:59
  course, double pressure on the edge to try to double team TJ,
• 2:33:02
  get TJ Watt. I'm say TJ Garrett almost makes
• 2:33:04
  both their names together or it just ends up being.
• 2:33:07
  A. Steelers linebacker.
• 2:33:09
  That or Steelers play. That blowjob.
• 2:33:11
  Getting the blitz for them, so I'm going to go with TJ Why and
• 2:33:13
  the other player I'm going to go with.
• 2:33:15
  Is JC. Horn, I'm going to go with JC
• 2:33:18
  Horn as one of the best coverage cornerbacks, probably the best
• 2:33:22
  cornerback in the league right now.
• 2:33:24
  He is one of the best corners, like I said.
• 2:33:26
  And the fact that, you know, the Panthers are staying in these
• 2:33:28
  close games, the fact that the Panthers are still staying in
• 2:33:31
  the playoff race this late in the season is definitely because
• 2:33:34
  on the backhand of JC Horn as one of the main components of
• 2:33:38
  why they're still hanging around.
• 2:33:39
  So I'm going to go with JC Horn. I remember when that kid was
• 2:33:42
  drafted, when when healthy. I remember his father.
• 2:33:46
  His father was great. And this guy, when he was,
• 2:33:49
  that's amazing healthy. If he stays healthy, this guy is
• 2:33:52
  one of the best corners in the league so.
• 2:33:56
  Jerry. I'm going to go a player near
• 2:34:01
  and dear to my heart as a Baylor fan.
• 2:34:03
  This guy deserves a statue of Baylor.
• 2:34:05
  Jalen Petrie for the Texans. He's been one of the best
• 2:34:08
  safeties in the league this year.
• 2:34:10
  Like the best opponent quarterback ratings in the
• 2:34:13
  league right now. It's like a holding quarterbacks
• 2:34:17
  to 7 yards an attempt. No touchdowns on the year.
• 2:34:20
  Given up by him. One of the best safeties in the
• 2:34:22
  league. Absolutely deserving of some
• 2:34:24
  praise. They asked Derek Henry who's the
• 2:34:27
  person that can tackle him the best the other day he said Jalen
• 2:34:31
  Petrie. Jalen Petrie's the.
• 2:34:34
  Man, that's an honor if you can tackle Derek Henry with some
• 2:34:37
  oomph. Didn't they make the rules?
• 2:34:40
  Didn't they make the rule because Derrick Henry when dude
• 2:34:42
  pulled out his dreads because that was the only way he could
• 2:34:44
  get him down? No, that was Tori Smith a while
• 2:34:46
  back was the first one, and then they.
• 2:34:48
  Made the rule after. That.
• 2:34:51
  There were a couple of guys that got pulled down by their dreads
• 2:34:53
  over the years just like that. But that rule really got
• 2:34:58
  publicized with Smith. Well, that was Palamala with a
• 2:35:00
  $4 million insurance policy. If he played offense, he would
• 2:35:05
  have needed that. By the way, man, he did not age
• 2:35:09
  well. I just saw him at Palomalu.
• 2:35:12
  Palomalu did not age. I'd say I didn't.
• 2:35:16
  Know I'm not. He didn't age very good.
• 2:35:18
  Go look at what he looks like. I hate to see.
• 2:35:21
  It he should have got the extra champ, the conditioner.
• 2:35:25
  Yeah, he needs to do something. Head and shoulders.
• 2:35:29
  All right, I think we're back to speed at this point for Java.
• 2:35:33
  Or. Two.
• 2:35:34
  No, no, I was going to. Say I can.
• 2:35:36
  Do it I. Didn't do it.
• 2:35:37
  I didn't. Do it speeding.
• 2:35:38
  Give your answer. Give.
• 2:35:39
  Your answer, well, we're. Keeping the same theme here, A
• 2:35:41
  lot of Texans here. I'll go with the other edge
• 2:35:42
  rusher too. That's not a very Goodyear.
• 2:35:43
  It's Daniel Hunter, a guy that's quietly on track to a Hall of
• 2:35:46
  Fame career right now. He's at over over 100 sacks
• 2:35:49
  right now. What he was he was smaller
• 2:35:51
  player at the beginnings career really bulked up and he's been
• 2:35:53
  very consistent and a big helping out alongside Will
• 2:35:56
  Anderson as well on that other edges to moving teams with the
• 2:35:58
  Vikings, a whole new defense. He had to learn to the last
• 2:36:00
  couple years and he's been phenomenal again this year.
• 2:36:05
  All right, Jabba. I'm going to go Aidan Hutchinson
• 2:36:09
  and I'm going to go Aiden because coming off his injury,
• 2:36:13
  obviously he's better than what he's shown.
• 2:36:16
  But to to come through wet and still have 8 1/2 sacks and, and
• 2:36:20
  still didn't look like he's lost the step.
• 2:36:22
  And, you know, hats off to him for coming back and still being
• 2:36:26
  the player that he is. And then I'm going to go with
• 2:36:30
  probably not at the very popular choice, but Micah Parsons, I
• 2:36:35
  mean, still obviously not having a great year, but not a terrible
• 2:36:40
  year. He's got 12 1/2 sacks and, you
• 2:36:42
  know, 38 tackles. So he's still doing his.
• 2:36:44
  I don't know if a lot of people like the trade, but.
• 2:36:47
  Yeah, I'm going those two. All right, Speedy.
• 2:36:51
  All right, I'll go first time, first one with an inside
• 2:36:53
  linebacker here, a guy that's played very well amidst all the
• 2:36:55
  rest of the team's team, the rest of the team getting hurt
• 2:36:57
  pretty much too. Java.
• 2:36:58
  You mentioned one of his team is already with Hutchinson.
• 2:37:00
  I'm going to say Jack Campbell, a guy that's been really good in
• 2:37:01
  coverage as well and could do one of the best runt run
• 2:37:04
  stopping tacklers in the league. And this is a team that's really
• 2:37:06
  banged up on offense. They're playing.
• 2:37:07
  It's a lot of really good running games in that division
• 2:37:10
  with the Bears and the Packers. And he's been having a
• 2:37:12
  phenomenal year. I questioned when they drafted
• 2:37:14
  him. At the time I thought it was a
• 2:37:15
  reach. But he's been a very good player
• 2:37:17
  and this is his best season of his career so far.
• 2:37:20
  Jared. I'm going to go with the I think
• 2:37:24
  he'll be the defensive rookie of the year this year.
• 2:37:27
  Carson Schwenzinger for the for the Browns, but very good
• 2:37:31
  linebacker. I think he's like 6th or 7th in
• 2:37:33
  the league in tackles. He's also got 2 interceptions.
• 2:37:36
  I mean it's not just Miles Garrett.
• 2:37:38
  Why? The Browns have a good defense.
• 2:37:40
  Everyone else hasn't contributed, but I think
• 2:37:41
  Schwenzinger has contributed a big way for that team.
• 2:37:45
  Alright, and finish off the first Round Top.
• 2:37:47
  Boobs. I'm going to go Kevin Byard from
• 2:37:50
  the Chicago Bears. Byard honestly has been one of
• 2:37:53
  the better I would say coverage cornerback.
• 2:37:55
  I'm sorry, Cover Shakies. He's had pretty good tackling
• 2:37:58
  years the last couple of years. Had a good season with the
• 2:38:01
  Eagles on his set on the back half of that season as well.
• 2:38:04
  He's been absolutely a phenomenal safety for the Bears
• 2:38:06
  the past two years and I'm pretty sure he definitely leads
• 2:38:09
  the league in interceptions this year.
• 2:38:11
  So give me Kevin Byard, safety from the Bears.
• 2:38:17
  All right, Errol, who are the two people moving on to the
• 2:38:20
  joust? All right, I'm going to go with
• 2:38:24
  Jarrett. I like his pigs.
• 2:38:26
  I thought he was reaching and he did get he did get Miles
• 2:38:30
  Garrett. So I have to give him.
• 2:38:31
  I have to move them on. The guys haven't to me just the
• 2:38:36
  game changing here. So I'm going Jarrett and I'm
• 2:38:38
  going to go with Java. All right, Jarrett and Java,
• 2:38:42
  other guys pop on out and let's get the back on up Round 2.
• 2:38:50
  The. Joust and let's see the question
• 2:38:53
  for our finalists. Best under 500 team in the
• 2:38:58
  league right now. So basically I'm asking you to
• 2:39:02
  tell me who are the best bad teams in the league?
• 2:39:07
  Bring up the standings. They have to be under 500, can't
• 2:39:10
  be 500, need to be under. 500 they're not at 500.
• 2:39:14
  No below 500. That's why we can do this in the
• 2:39:16
  first round. I think it's something a lot of
• 2:39:20
  people say. Oh, they're they're bad, but
• 2:39:22
  they're a good, bad team. I want to hear or who are the
• 2:39:26
  best or unlucky. Maybe Pythagoras and his theorem
• 2:39:31
  doesn't smile on him this year. All right, but you need to tell
• 2:39:36
  us right now, Harold. Who's going first?
• 2:39:39
  I'll go Jabba the jar. All right.
• 2:39:43
  I'm going to the New York Jets. No, I'm I'm not I'm being not
• 2:39:50
  being super sarcastic, but everybody went from they're
• 2:39:55
  they've got good talent. Shut up scoops, but didn't
• 2:40:00
  expect them to win three games. But what why say they are is
• 2:40:04
  because I kind of look towards what they're going to do.
• 2:40:06
  They're believing in a coach because you didn't expect them
• 2:40:09
  to win three games at this point.
• 2:40:10
  You had them went in two, maybe 3 at the beginning of the year.
• 2:40:14
  And they're probably going to end up with the rest of their
• 2:40:16
  schedule probably winning four, maybe 5.
• 2:40:19
  And so I look at as a team that you expect actually dog shit
• 2:40:23
  from to actually go out and win games and believe in a coach and
• 2:40:26
  show a little bit of fight when they haven't shown it before.
• 2:40:32
  So I mean, yeah, you probably thought I was going to be like
• 2:40:34
  sarcastic and but I like, no, they they're not as bad.
• 2:40:39
  I mean, they're bad, but not as bad as people thought they were
• 2:40:42
  going. To be all right.
• 2:40:44
  Jared. I love bad quarterback play, so
• 2:40:49
  I'm going to go with the Cleveland Browns.
• 2:40:51
  They have one of the best defenses in the league.
• 2:40:52
  They so they can hang in any game, which means what their
• 2:40:56
  quarterback does matters. And it's going to be wildly
• 2:40:58
  entertaining watching them just throw the ball all over the
• 2:41:01
  field Willy nilly and doing stupid stuff that's fun to watch
• 2:41:05
  for a bad team. I was a big Will Levis guy that
• 2:41:07
  was must watch TV every week of what he was going to pull out
• 2:41:10
  there should doers now must watch TV of what he's going to
• 2:41:14
  try out there. But it's going to be in a big
• 2:41:16
  situation because their defense will keep them in the game.
• 2:41:19
  Second pick. I'm going to go to Cincinnati
• 2:41:21
  Bengals. I don't think they're really bad
• 2:41:23
  like they are a bad team, but a lot of that's because they've
• 2:41:26
  missed Joe Burrow all season long.
• 2:41:27
  They play no defense, which makes games fun and then they
• 2:41:31
  can still score. I mean, it was fun watching Joe
• 2:41:33
  Flacco at year 27 or whatever it is just, you know, sling pill
• 2:41:38
  around Burroughs going to do that.
• 2:41:40
  Now there's They're fun games to watch with the Bengals.
• 2:41:43
  All right. Jabba, I'm probably going to go
• 2:41:47
  commanders. It's just it's it's tough, it's
• 2:41:53
  tough sledding around these waters right here when you get
• 2:41:56
  to this point, because if if there was 500 teams, like you'd
• 2:42:00
  have a little bit of a shot. But yeah, I just for me that
• 2:42:05
  they've shown glimpses of kind of what a really decent team
• 2:42:11
  that they could be with the talent that they have.
• 2:42:14
  I think with offensively, I think they they could be better.
• 2:42:18
  I don't know if it's if they're going to be as good as they are
• 2:42:21
  defensively. They're kind of one of those
• 2:42:24
  flip of coins and I I just think they're not miserable to watch.
• 2:42:29
  And that's kind of the what I was trying to base it off of
• 2:42:32
  other than The Jets, that was about it.
• 2:42:34
  All right, and give us your last one, Java.
• 2:42:37
  The last one and do we only got like one more in there?
• 2:42:41
  There's three. There's plenty more.
• 2:42:44
  God, and they all suck donkey balls.
• 2:42:48
  That's pretty good. But which one is the best at
• 2:42:53
  doing that? I'm going to say the Raiders
• 2:42:57
  because they have one of the nicest stadiums, so even if they
• 2:43:00
  suck, it's nice to go there. And you're in Vegas, so you get
• 2:43:02
  hammered and bet. So yeah, that's my reason.
• 2:43:07
  All right, finish off the round, Jared.
• 2:43:10
  I'll say the Dolphins. Dolphins are a weird team.
• 2:43:13
  They they looked horrendous the start of the year.
• 2:43:15
  They're also kind of fun. Interceptions are fun.
• 2:43:18
  So the two it was fun to watch, but they they out of nowhere
• 2:43:21
  seem like a good team Now they're up to five and seven.
• 2:43:23
  They won four of their last five.
• 2:43:25
  They have a legit shot of making the playoffs out of nowhere and
• 2:43:29
  McDaniel might save his job. This is also.
• 2:43:31
  Jerry's are. Fun Dolphins have a fun.
• 2:43:33
  That's a good nickname. I mean, they look good out
• 2:43:35
  there. Some games to watch.
• 2:43:38
  They don't defend much either, so that's fun.
• 2:43:42
  All right, there it is, Errol. Who's moving on?
• 2:43:45
  To take on the king. All right, so it's very, very
• 2:43:48
  close, like extremely close, but The Jets beat the Browns and
• 2:43:56
  that's the way I look at it. So I think that's a little bit
• 2:43:59
  more impressive than the Browns beating The Jets because they
• 2:44:01
  haven't beaten The Jets and The Jets won 2720.
• 2:44:04
  So I'm going to go with Jabba. I I I like Miami.
• 2:44:07
  That's that was the turning point.
• 2:44:09
  I I like Miami. I like all his picks, but and I
• 2:44:13
  thought Miami really edged it closer.
• 2:44:16
  But the Browns, I I don't think the Browns are I think they're
• 2:44:20
  dog shit. They have no offensive weapons
• 2:44:23
  whatsoever. Jerry Judy has been on my
• 2:44:26
  fantasy. He stinks.
• 2:44:28
  They have no quarterback. They started 3 quarterbacks, 3
• 2:44:31
  quarterbacks this year and they're all dog shit.
• 2:44:34
  All right. So honestly I'm going to go with
• 2:44:37
  Java, not because it's Jets, I just the Browns are bad so they
• 2:44:44
  shouldn't even have three wins. I get why.
• 2:44:46
  I get why he picked it though, because it is like that's fun to
• 2:44:49
  watch a shit show. You're a.
• 2:44:50
  Fun bad. Team and their jerseys are
• 2:44:54
  brown. Shit brown so.
• 2:44:56
  Your jerseys are the worst all. Right, let's get everybody back
• 2:45:01
  in for the last round to be the voting panel for our democratic
• 2:45:07
  process where Java is going to take on King Errol Marx.
• 2:45:10
  Here's the question for Round 3. When you get to take on the
• 2:45:15
  king, here it is. So.
• 2:45:20
  You've been talking about it all night.
• 2:45:22
  There's only one way to wrap up tonight.
• 2:45:25
  Who is the MVP of the 2025 NFL season?
• 2:45:30
  We got 4 weeks, 5 weeks left, this upcoming weekend left in
• 2:45:35
  the season. It's time to decide who it is.
• 2:45:39
  This is when people you know, this is the right time to make
• 2:45:42
  your prediction, right? We got a couple of frontrunners.
• 2:45:46
  We got a couple of guys in the second level that are probably
• 2:45:50
  just a couple of good games away from being at that top level.
• 2:45:54
  Let's see. All right.
• 2:45:56
  Who's going to be king of the hill?
• 2:45:59
  Errol, Would you like to go first?
• 2:46:00
  I would like to go 1st and I think everybody knows where I'm
• 2:46:04
  going. I'm going the one and only.
• 2:46:08
  Yeah, Matthew Stafford, I think he is the MVP of the league.
• 2:46:12
  His schedule, he's in a division that's so competitive.
• 2:46:15
  He's playing in Seattle. The NFC is by far better than
• 2:46:19
  the AFC. I don't think it's a question or
• 2:46:21
  an argument. Their schedules, I mean, let's
• 2:46:23
  let's look at it here. Their schedule is one of the
• 2:46:26
  hardest in the league. And the Patriots in Drake May
• 2:46:30
  are one of the easiest schedules in NFL history.
• 2:46:35
  OK, And he is up as the number one pick to go to from Vegas.
• 2:46:40
  I'm absolutely, absolutely going with Matthew Stafford.
• 2:46:46
  All right. Jabba.
• 2:46:48
  I'm going to go Dak Prescott it it's I mean to look at just like
• 2:46:52
  his completion ratio is almost 70% at a career where he he's
• 2:46:57
  kind of stayed at about 6067 ish percent.
• 2:47:01
  Like I said earlier, he's always the bridesmaid, just never,
• 2:47:05
  never the bride, always I, I personally think and, and
• 2:47:09
  speedy, you're, you've touched on this too.
• 2:47:12
  We talk about voter fatigue and that necessarily doesn't come
• 2:47:14
  necessarily from a team, but I think it literally plays a part
• 2:47:17
  in some of what he does. And he doesn't get, you know,
• 2:47:20
  the love that he he should get. And I mean, just his ratio
• 2:47:25
  touchdown to interception and how I think as a leader of the
• 2:47:32
  team and what he's done, he's he's kind of kept guys in check.
• 2:47:36
  And when you do that, that just shows you as a leader.
• 2:47:39
  And as he gets older, he he's not losing, you know, he's 32
• 2:47:43
  years old. But and we're obviously he's not
• 2:47:45
  Stafford old, but you know, he's no spring chicken either.
• 2:47:48
  And he continues to do it at a high caliber.
• 2:47:50
  And there's something to be said about that, too.
• 2:47:53
  All right. All right.
• 2:47:54
  So everybody looks at the quarterbacks and this is where
• 2:47:57
  they're going. I'm going off set on this and
• 2:47:59
  this guy has had an unbelievable season.
• 2:48:02
  I know Fish is probably going to have smiles on his face.
• 2:48:06
  I'm going to go. Jackson Smith, Najiba, he has a
• 2:48:09
  chance to break records this year.
• 2:48:11
  His numbers are ridiculous. I, I don't think that you can
• 2:48:15
  question what he is doing right now.
• 2:48:17
  I I think he is been sensational, yes, everybody.
• 2:48:20
  He's been the best wide receiver in the NFLI.
• 2:48:23
  Don't think you can argue that right now.
• 2:48:25
  He has been electrifying and everybody knows that the bull is
• 2:48:28
  going to him and you still can't stop him.
• 2:48:31
  Jackson Smith, The Jigpa. All right.
• 2:48:37
  Wait. You say just just say Jackson.
• 2:48:39
  Smith and Jigpa. Oh, OK, just double checking.
• 2:48:42
  Very smart hurrying favor with voters that way.
• 2:48:45
  Yeah, Fish. I was just going to say if I
• 2:48:46
  wasn't, if I didn't recall, I heard that was a name that you
• 2:48:49
  brought up a lot early on in the.
• 2:48:51
  Year shut up Java. Yeah, I'm just saying, I mean
• 2:48:54
  like. I just remember he was saying
• 2:48:56
  that. And look at Java driving the
• 2:48:58
  wedge in this. Whole yeah, I mean for MVP
• 2:49:02
  that's, I mean, that's big nuts. I mean, I see the game you're
• 2:49:05
  playing over. Here I don't think the list is
• 2:49:07
  that good. Yeah, I mean, let's go back.
• 2:49:11
  I don't hate that one either, but I'm going to go Drake May
• 2:49:14
  just because I'm going to use Errol's sophomores slumps that
• 2:49:19
  your sophomore years, the year we figure out if you're the guy
• 2:49:22
  or not. And you know, it may be one in a
• 2:49:25
  million, but you know, just not only is, is he leading the
• 2:49:30
  league in, in breakout year, obviously, but you know, deep
• 2:49:34
  passes and being able to expand the field.
• 2:49:36
  And I just, for me, I, I love seeing dudes that are out there
• 2:49:41
  to prove people wrong. And now it's, it's him and
• 2:49:45
  Stafford being one and two. And, and I think with, with what
• 2:49:48
  he's got left, he's got a chance to go out and, and, and reel
• 2:49:51
  this thing in. Obviously his schedule is a
• 2:49:53
  little bit favorable than some people's, but you still got to
• 2:49:56
  go complete the passes and he's done it all year.
• 2:49:58
  So he, he could go down as one of the highest completion rates
• 2:50:01
  ever in, in history of the quarterback.
• 2:50:03
  So it'd be interesting. Right my my final.
• 2:50:08
  Last ones arrow. I, I, I'm sorry, I am surprised
• 2:50:13
  he's not on this list. I'm surprised that nobody would
• 2:50:16
  put this guy on his list because the season he's having is
• 2:50:20
  absolutely remarkable. And that's Miles Garrett.
• 2:50:23
  Miles Garrett should be on this MVP list.
• 2:50:27
  It's ridiculous how you have Drake May, Matthew Stafford, Dak
• 2:50:30
  Prescott, Jordan Love, Josh Allen, Sam Donald, maybe Caleb
• 2:50:35
  Williams, Patrick Mahomes. Jonathan Taylor's had a great
• 2:50:39
  season. Bo Nicks and Jackson Smith.
• 2:50:41
  Najiba. I mean, Jackson Smith over at Bo
• 2:50:43
  Nicks, I, I don't know how Miles Garretts not on this list.
• 2:50:47
  He has been unbelievable. I mean.
• 2:50:50
  When was the last defensive player to win MVP it?
• 2:50:53
  Was in the IT was in the 70s. It was Alan Page, the defensive
• 2:50:56
  tackle from the Vikings. Yeah.
• 2:50:59
  Miles Garrett is doing something we might never see again, and
• 2:51:02
  he's going to break. That's not true.
• 2:51:04
  Lawrence Taylor. No, no, But I'm saying he's
• 2:51:06
  going to break the record. I think he's breaking the record
• 2:51:09
  and he's going to do it in and I think shorter time than
• 2:51:13
  obviously than Lawrence Taylor did.
• 2:51:15
  I think he breaks the record. I think he's going to do
• 2:51:17
  something we've never seen any person do.
• 2:51:19
  I'm going Miles Garrett, He has been as dominant as a player,
• 2:51:24
  defensive player we've ever seen in a very long time, even better
• 2:51:27
  than. DJ Fish, Was that the answer to
• 2:51:29
  defensive player or what we were talking?
• 2:51:31
  About the defensive player so speedy named the there was a the
• 2:51:36
  only other guy besides Lawrence Taylor who did it in 1986.
• 2:51:41
  The other giants won. He had 20 1/2 sacks as a stand
• 2:51:45
  up off the ball linebacker, not as a Ned rusher, but as an off
• 2:51:48
  the ball linebacker. He had 20 1/2 sacks, which is
• 2:51:51
  just from the four three. So it's not like he was like in
• 2:51:54
  a three. You know, it was just.
• 2:51:56
  This crazy one. It's ridiculous that Miles
• 2:51:58
  Garrett is not on this list. It's ridiculous.
• 2:52:00
  I agree with you, absolutely ridiculous last one.
• 2:52:03
  Let's finish up the game Java. Well, that that was poopy
• 2:52:05
  because I was hoping that you'd let me have that one.
• 2:52:08
  But I I mean, I guess I got to go with Jonathan Taylor.
• 2:52:14
  I think at this point, if if I'm going to go with anybody right
• 2:52:18
  now with, you know, offensively, I'm not I'm not sold on Jordan
• 2:52:23
  Love because of the Jekyll and Hyde of you're not.
• 2:52:26
  I don't know what you're going to get.
• 2:52:27
  He's shown signs of it, but he's also pissed on himself too.
• 2:52:30
  So and John, the Taylor's been consistent more so had a rough
• 2:52:34
  week last week, but I think just the crazy part too is, is he's
• 2:52:39
  almost 1000 yards after contact. That's like that's crazy.
• 2:52:44
  He was like 953 last week and just to watch him continue like
• 2:52:48
  run the ball after like that's impressive and to see how many
• 2:52:52
  yards fastest went to 1000 and how many games great year.
• 2:52:56
  I just those bad weeks are going to add up.
• 2:52:59
  But I think if anybody had a chance or super dark horse
• 2:53:03
  finishes a lot. 455 games. With what he's done all year, I
• 2:53:07
  think you know he's in the conversation suck.
• 2:53:09
  My endo. I love Jonathan Taylor, but I
• 2:53:13
  when you said somebody pissed on pissed on himself, it remind me
• 2:53:16
  of Dan Santa. And I watched that movie again
• 2:53:18
  last night. That movie, every single time I
• 2:53:22
  could sit and watch it, I am laughing my ass off.
• 2:53:25
  I was eating dinner late at night and I just was I was
• 2:53:30
  drinking water and I just spit it out.
• 2:53:32
  Spit it out When? When the kids?
• 2:53:34
  Billy Bob Thornton's low key funny If you haven't started
• 2:53:37
  Land Man like you wouldn't expect it to be funny.
• 2:53:40
  It'd be funny, but Billy Bob is hilarious.
• 2:53:43
  I've got to check that out. I'm going to check, I've heard.
• 2:53:44
  That it's really. Started the second season,
• 2:53:46
  right. All right, so I'm going to give
• 2:53:48
  you my vote. I'm going to read off who each
• 2:53:49
  everyone took so we remember it. You know I can memorize it.
• 2:53:52
  Errol took Stafford JSN and Miles Garrett.
• 2:53:55
  Jabba took DAC, May and Jonathan Taylor.
• 2:53:59
  Here's how I'm going to match it up.
• 2:54:01
  I I'm going to match up Stafford versus May.
• 2:54:03
  I too think Stafford is better than May.
• 2:54:06
  I would go with Stafford. So I'm going to give that one
• 2:54:08
  the Java to Errol rather I am then going to match up.
• 2:54:13
  It looks like Dak and Miles Garrett.
• 2:54:17
  It was Jackson. It was Jackson.
• 2:54:20
  Right. No, I'm saying I'm going to save
• 2:54:21
  the offensive players to match up against each other.
• 2:54:24
  But I don't know, man. I I really, really like Miles
• 2:54:30
  Garrett and I think that is benefiting from two of the five
• 2:54:33
  best receivers in the league right now being on his team.
• 2:54:37
  So I'm going to give both of those to Errol and I also I'm
• 2:54:40
  going to give JSN over Jonathan Taylor.
• 2:54:42
  I think Jonathan Taylor's had a couple of bad games in there,
• 2:54:46
  although he has been awesome this season.
• 2:54:49
  JS NS just doing certain things with separation that nobody saw
• 2:54:52
  coming. He's doing the thing where
• 2:54:55
  everyone thought he was a slot receiver and now he's playing
• 2:54:57
  outside more than he played inside.
• 2:54:59
  That's what Antonio Brown did when he was getting to the top
• 2:55:02
  of his game. I would start thinking of him as
• 2:55:05
  a similar type of star player at the receiver position.
• 2:55:08
  Going forwards. Give me arrow on this one,
• 2:55:10
  Jared, who you got? It's really close for me.
• 2:55:14
  I consider a DAC and Stafford neck and neck back just doesn't
• 2:55:18
  have the defense to help him out.
• 2:55:19
  I think Jonathan Taylor is a little bit more of the the
• 2:55:22
  engine behind his team than JSN is.
• 2:55:25
  But what it comes down to is in my first King of the Hill months
• 2:55:30
  ago, they're eliminated me for Saint Drake May had one of the
• 2:55:33
  most impressive performances of week, whatever it was, and at a
• 2:55:36
  pure spite. I will go with Jabba for taking
• 2:55:40
  Drake May. That's right.
• 2:55:45
  Listen, just like we found out in the year 2013.
• 2:55:47
  Easiest. Trump won the first time. 13,000
• 2:55:51
  people voted. For a guerrilla named Harambe.
• 2:55:54
  Aaron Judge got 11 mayoral votes.
• 2:55:57
  I should have voted. I would have voted for him.
• 2:55:59
  I voted for Derek Jeter one year.
• 2:56:01
  I don't remember which election it.
• 2:56:03
  Was, didn't, didn't you were talking about Harambe?
• 2:56:05
  Didn't. Harambe got like 15,000 votes in
• 2:56:09
  2016. He was a dead gorilla.
• 2:56:11
  I had friends that voted for him, I remember.
• 2:56:15
  That vote for Harambe, I think they were like those like faded
• 2:56:18
  Che Guevara, like pictures of Harambe.
• 2:56:22
  There's an interesting time 2016.
• 2:56:24
  Anyway, let's go to Speedy. It's votes tied 11.
• 2:56:27
  Yeah, it's very close job. I do like the penniness of
• 2:56:29
  taking away Dak Prescott from him because obviously he would
• 2:56:31
  have taken him second otherwise. I wouldn't have.
• 2:56:33
  I had no interest to take really.
• 2:56:35
  OK. No, I did.
• 2:56:36
  All right. Well, I'm looking at, I'm just
• 2:56:38
  looking at what these guys did this season.
• 2:56:40
  No, I do. I do applaud the effort though,
• 2:56:42
  but I'm going to take care. I like his argument for Miles
• 2:56:43
  Garrett at the end, but going with the defensive MVP, like the
• 2:56:46
  historic angle type thing was very good.
• 2:56:48
  And again, I think your first argument kind of cancelled out
• 2:56:50
  so. You're talking about two players
• 2:56:52
  that historically are going to possibly going to break records.
• 2:56:55
  Yeah, I. Mean.
• 2:56:56
  That's all I'm saying. All right, well, historically,
• 2:57:02
  you break a tie with the last guy and here he is.
• 2:57:05
  Tommy scoops. It's 2 to one right now.
• 2:57:08
  Who you going with? I know you just said that about
• 2:57:10
  breaking a tie. You're probably going to hate
• 2:57:12
  me, Arrow. I did like your list, but
• 2:57:14
  honestly, Jabba, all three of those players that you picked
• 2:57:18
  are definitely the players that I would have selected as well,
• 2:57:20
  too. I definitely could see May Zach
• 2:57:22
  and Jonathan Taylor being MVPS over in Jigba and Miles Garrett
• 2:57:27
  this year. Definitely 100%.
• 2:57:29
  So I'm going to actually go Jabba.
• 2:57:31
  Playing devil's advocate here. I'm not intentional, but I'm
• 2:57:34
  going Jabba on this so. All right, so Tommy, thanks for
• 2:57:38
  making making me have to do extra work on a segment.
• 2:57:42
  I'm sorry way. To go on that one, Tommy.
• 2:57:44
  Just flip a coin. Here's what we.
• 2:57:46
  Do all right, we're going to flip the coin, Jabba.
• 2:57:48
  We're not flipping a coin. We're.
• 2:57:49
  Not putting a runner on. Second base, all right, but what
• 2:57:53
  we are going to do is ask you to come up with one more guy each
• 2:57:57
  for the same question and let's see who we who you got.
• 2:58:01
  And we're just going to vote on it one more time, give you a
• 2:58:04
  second to look at your list again.
• 2:58:07
  Errol, since you're the reigning king, you can decide to go first
• 2:58:10
  or second. I'm going to go first.
• 2:58:12
  It's very close. I'm not taking Jordan Love
• 2:58:14
  because he's too wishy washy. Josh Allen to wishy washy.
• 2:58:19
  So it's between these two guys. I'm not going to mention these
• 2:58:22
  two guys, but I like both of them.
• 2:58:25
  But I'm going to go with the the youngster.
• 2:58:28
  I'm going to go with the guy that is doing something with the
• 2:58:31
  Bears that a lot of people did not predict.
• 2:58:34
  And he stood. He's standing out to me.
• 2:58:37
  He's making the plays, he's not putting up ridiculous numbers.
• 2:58:40
  And I know a lot of people are going to like the other guy a
• 2:58:41
  little bit more because of what he's doing with somebody else.
• 2:58:45
  I'm going to go with Caleb Williams.
• 2:58:47
  I think Caleb Williams has been sensational.
• 2:58:49
  I think he's led the team. Everybody said that this guy
• 2:58:52
  wasn't a leader, wasn't a leader.
• 2:58:55
  Well, this year he speaks to the media a little bit differently.
• 2:58:59
  He started to see isn't a little wishy washy because he went into
• 2:59:02
  the quarterback room and some of the coaches said they can't
• 2:59:05
  stand the way he acts inside the quarterback room and it doesn't
• 2:59:08
  show up. But I think it's changed in the
• 2:59:10
  second-half of the season. I think he's bought into Ben
• 2:59:13
  Johnson's offense and you could see the difference in the
• 2:59:15
  second-half. He's putting up these numbers
• 2:59:19
  and he's doing it in a way with a great running game and he's
• 2:59:23
  he's just doing it in a way I I didn't think he was going to.
• 2:59:26
  I I'm going to go Caleb Williams.
• 2:59:28
  I like what Caleb Williams is doing.
• 2:59:30
  I'm going to go Justin Herbert. I know some of his yards are
• 2:59:34
  different. This one's tough because you
• 2:59:36
  kind of don't know which direction you're going to go.
• 2:59:40
  And I know he's had some trash yards at the end, but even if
• 2:59:43
  you got trash yards, you still got yards and you still have
• 2:59:45
  complete passes and you still got to be able to do that.
• 2:59:48
  Kayla, I do like Kayla Williams too.
• 2:59:50
  I think he's going to be really good.
• 2:59:53
  But yeah, Herbert was was my choice.
• 2:59:55
  And then I was like, shit, I. Better go with Herbert, but
• 2:59:58
  yeah. I was going to go with somebody
• 2:59:59
  younger that you didn't expect, but that was really about all
• 3:00:03
  that. And I love Justin Herbert all
• 3:00:05
  season and the last couple of games he hasn't looked the same.
• 3:00:08
  The team that so many guys, they've lost, it it, it bothers
• 3:00:12
  me that Justin Herbert, he was on his way, I think, as an MVP.
• 3:00:16
  I agree. I agree.
• 3:00:17
  But he's just falling off. I could not put him in in this
• 3:00:21
  even in the top 10 right now either.
• 3:00:22
  Daniel Jones, he's falling off too.
• 3:00:24
  He looked like he was going to be a short top five guy and he's
• 3:00:27
  falling off. Over the last couple of weeks.
• 3:00:29
  The guy that I thought you should have went with was Sam
• 3:00:31
  Darnold. I I think Sam.
• 3:00:33
  Is all right Well, we got to make our.
• 3:00:34
  Own choice. OK, you.
• 3:00:37
  Base it on argument. It's not just who the player
• 3:00:40
  was. I was going to go with a coach
• 3:00:42
  and throw shit way off. I love that Java since you kind
• 3:00:46
  of capitulated saying that you wanted to take Caleb.
• 3:00:50
  Oh yeah, with Herbert, first of all, use words that I
• 3:00:53
  understand. I don't know what the fuck
• 3:00:55
  capitulate mean it. Means exactly what you freaking
• 3:00:58
  think it means, man. You capitulated.
• 3:01:04
  You. Kind of threw in towel is what
• 3:01:06
  I'm saying, because by explaining it that way that you
• 3:01:09
  wish you could have taken the guy that he took.
• 3:01:11
  So therefore, I'm going to go with the guy that he took in
• 3:01:14
  that scenario dealt with using that logic, Jared.
• 3:01:19
  Yeah, I mean, I picked on spite last time and I think this is
• 3:01:22
  close enough or I I don't like Caleb Williams, but also don't
• 3:01:25
  think I think he's been a little bit better than her group this
• 3:01:28
  year. So I'll go with.
• 3:01:29
  I'll go with Arrow. Yeah, I think both kind of
• 3:01:31
  similar circumstances. Now, the Bears do have a better
• 3:01:32
  skill players, but both both good coaches.
• 3:01:35
  I think still Chicago playing a tough division the way they are
• 3:01:37
  this year. Caleb Williams, they've had to
• 3:01:39
  win a lot of close games because they underperformed points.
• 3:01:43
  Their defense has been hurt all year.
• 3:01:44
  I'm going to give a slight edge to Arrow, but it was a very good
• 3:01:46
  battle. All right, Tommy, your vote.
• 3:01:50
  All right, is over. Yep, it's over.
• 3:01:52
  But Jabba, hey, man, I tried having you hanging around there,
• 3:01:54
  but similar like Fish said and Jared as well.
• 3:01:57
  I think that Caleb Williams has had a tad bit of a better season
• 3:02:00
  considering someone that made the switch from Justin Herbert
• 3:02:03
  on his fantasy team putting Caleb Williams over him.
• 3:02:06
  It's definitely paid off a lot well the last couple of weeks.
• 3:02:09
  So I'm definitely going with Errol on this.
• 3:02:10
  One, yeah, I mean. There it is.
• 3:02:12
  I would too, but Herbert has better numbers, but that's fine.
• 3:02:15
  Yeah. He's also.
• 3:02:17
  I just said it based on the logic.
• 3:02:19
  Oh, no, I agree. And I just wanted to get this
• 3:02:21
  segment over with, so. That's why you wanted to flip a
• 3:02:24
  coin. You thought he had a better shot
• 3:02:26
  with a coin? It's all Tommy's fault in the
• 3:02:29
  1st place. Hey man, I blame Tommy.
• 3:02:31
  It's my fault. Hey Errol, that means you stay
• 3:02:33
  king. Oh the hell.
• 3:02:35
  I love Lisa AM. Java takes it up the ass.
• 3:02:41
  Niffen's running away, ladies and gentlemen.
• 3:02:45
  Now the real question What would have happened if Niffin was the
• 3:02:46
  deciding vote? I think Niffin would have gone.
• 3:02:51
  We would still, we would still be here.
• 3:02:53
  He would still be like discerning what's going on.
• 3:02:57
  After he checks out Abdul Carter's Internet search
• 3:03:00
  history. All right, ladies and gentlemen,
• 3:03:05
  we call this. What's that smell?
• 3:03:08
  Hold up, what is that smell? What's that smell?
• 3:03:16
  Wow. You don't see that.
• 3:03:18
  Everyday. All right, ladies and gentlemen,
• 3:03:20
  it's pretty simple how we play this game.
• 3:03:22
  It's really, we tell you a story and we tell you what it smells
• 3:03:26
  like and hopefully it doesn't smell like anything.
• 3:03:30
  Speedy, you know, pulls out of his ass because he pulls these
• 3:03:33
  weird things out of his ass, probably writes it down on a
• 3:03:36
  piece of paper so we can get the answer down.
• 3:03:38
  That's fast anyways, all right, let's hope he doesn't pull
• 3:03:42
  something really out of his ass because it might be a hairy one.
• 3:03:45
  Anyways, ladies and gentlemen, we're going to go.
• 3:03:49
  I'm going to say fish. I'm going to go Speedy.
• 3:03:52
  I'm going to go poops. I'm going to go Jared.
• 3:03:54
  I'm going to go Jabba. I'm going to go me.
• 3:03:56
  All right, let's get the music going for What's that smell?
• 3:04:01
  What's that smell? Blow my back up.
• 3:04:05
  I'm going to start with my brother-in-law who was on the
• 3:04:10
  show a couple months ago, his favorite team, Penn State, and a
• 3:04:15
  little comments made by former Steelers quarterback Ben
• 3:04:19
  Roethlisberger. Apparently he decided that it's
• 3:04:23
  time for Mike Tomlin. I don't know, maybe to just
• 3:04:27
  reset. And he offered the idea that he
• 3:04:30
  should be coaching Penn State University next year, staying in
• 3:04:34
  the state that he's already in and switching over to college,
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  even though it's something Tomlin said he would never do.
• 3:04:40
  I don't know if it's such a bad idea.
• 3:04:44
  And to me, I think that might be exactly what the doctor ordered
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  for Penn State for sure. If Tomlin wants to do it, he
• 3:04:51
  seems like the type of guy that would dominate at that level in
• 3:04:54
  the recruiting phase and all those things.
• 3:04:56
  Again, if he wants to do it. But does he want to do it?
• 3:05:00
  He's still able with this, what most of us think, not a very
• 3:05:05
  good roster in the Pittsburgh, able to get that team going so
• 3:05:11
  they're over 500. He can do it with a bad team.
• 3:05:14
  That's the sign of a legendary coach.
• 3:05:16
  He's a Hall of Fame coach. We need to make sure we
• 3:05:19
  understand that this is a Hall of Fame coach already.
• 3:05:22
  He doesn't have to do this, but Bill Belichick tried to do it
• 3:05:26
  and he's not being successful. It's really interesting to see
• 3:05:30
  if Mike Tomlin rise to that challenge.
• 3:05:32
  So I looked up what things smell like the most in Penn State
• 3:05:36
  University for Mike Tomlin, and here it is natural and is AI.
• 3:05:41
  Of course, in campus specific smells, the first one cow
• 3:05:44
  manure, agricultural roots, the farm smell can drift on the
• 3:05:48
  campus. Bradford pear trees.
• 3:05:51
  Certain trees on campus have been described as having an
• 3:05:53
  unpleasant odor. Some like into Seminole fluid
• 3:05:57
  mixed with Bisquick. And then there is O de Penn
• 3:06:01
  State, a fragrance company that once developed scents to evoke
• 3:06:04
  the campus. It was described as having
• 3:06:07
  vanilla, lilac and rose while the Cologne had blue Cypress and
• 3:06:11
  cracked some of that pep. All I got for.
• 3:06:19
  You all right so actually for the second straight week I have
• 3:06:21
  a what's that smell related to a similar theme as the person who
• 3:06:24
  went before me so scoops you it we both have the spitters that
• 3:06:26
  one week and fish. We both have a Penn State team
• 3:06:29
  but it's the Penn State versus crumble cookies incident because
• 3:06:34
  of BYU. Apparently their CEO and Jason
• 3:06:37
  McGowan is a big BYU booster and the report saying he was a big
• 3:06:42
  reason factoring to their coach and Kalani Sakate getting an
• 3:06:45
  extension from BYU when he was the favorite to take the Penn
• 3:06:48
  State job. So this led to a bunch of funny
• 3:06:51
  things after that. So you had the barstool Penn
• 3:06:53
  State Twitter page going, oh, our Penn State Creamer, which by
• 3:06:56
  the way, does seem like a good place, is better than crumble
• 3:06:59
  cookies. There was James Franklin at his
• 3:07:02
  Virginia Tech, I guess, opening press conference, something like
• 3:07:05
  that. They serve crumble cookies as a
• 3:07:06
  dessert for that. And then the best one of all,
• 3:07:09
  BYU's actually sent to the front of the Penn State offices for
• 3:07:14
  the football facility, some crumble cookies right at the
• 3:07:17
  door. So a bunch of pain is involved
• 3:07:19
  in that whole feud, which is very funny.
• 3:07:21
  Kalai Tecate, one of my favorite coach in the college football,
• 3:07:23
  by the way, and he stays with BYU and Penn State's still
• 3:07:25
  searching. So we have a little twofold for
• 3:07:27
  what's that smell. For BYU, it smells like a
• 3:07:30
  brownie batter crumble cookies fresh out of the oven, and for
• 3:07:33
  Penn State it smells like a 10 year old crumble cookies for
• 3:07:37
  when Christian Hackenberg was playing scooped up with the dog
• 3:07:40
  crap of the Eagles. Super Bowl championship parade
• 3:07:43
  you. Are one weird.
• 3:07:48
  Person so vivid. I was next.
• 3:07:54
  I think I'm next, Right? All right, so going over to the
• 3:07:58
  world of wrestling, I'm going to be talking about 53 year old
• 3:08:02
  over 7 feet weighing almost £400.
• 3:08:05
  The big show, The big show, Paul White.
• 3:08:10
  Yes, exactly. Mr. Paul himself, you know, over
• 3:08:14
  the weekend he came out on Mr. Sam Robinson's podcast and Not
• 3:08:17
  Sam podcast talking about how he thinks he has a couple more
• 3:08:21
  years in him. You know, he's not ready to lay
• 3:08:22
  stuff the boots just yet. He's not calling on retirement.
• 3:08:25
  And for the love of God, someone who loved to watch the Big Show
• 3:08:28
  as a kid growing up, please retire, Paul.
• 3:08:30
  I mean, it doesn't look, man. I remember seeing Big Show come
• 3:08:34
  out on an event over in the Coliseum back many, many years
• 3:08:37
  ago. Probably the pandemic era, a
• 3:08:39
  little bit before the pandemic. So I want to say 2019 Big Show
• 3:08:43
  walking to the ring back then, he looked like a wrestler that
• 3:08:46
  was wrestling for 30 years back then and I was already six years
• 3:08:49
  ago. So something that was a little
• 3:08:52
  more recently, he went out on an AEW event and in the AW event, I
• 3:08:56
  try to find a picture. I wasn't quick enough with it
• 3:08:58
  though. But however, at this AW event,
• 3:09:01
  him standing up straight, his knees look absolutely terrible,
• 3:09:05
  pointing in every single direction but straight.
• 3:09:08
  So for the love of God, you know someone like as big as big show
• 3:09:11
  the weight that's been carrying. On his for.
• 3:09:13
  The 30 years that he's been wrestling, I hope that someone
• 3:09:16
  like him retires and transitions to more of.
• 3:09:19
  An exactly. Sort of what Mark Henry's done
• 3:09:21
  in the last couple years, he's been a bit of a bit of a coach,
• 3:09:23
  a bit of a trainer for the wrestling squads, like AW,
• 3:09:26
  whatnot. So Scoop sits on the sitter.
• 3:09:29
  I think that's how Big Shows should transition his career
• 3:09:32
  instead of still wrestling like he thinks he can.
• 3:09:34
  So what does it smell like if he does get in the ring?
• 3:09:37
  I promise you that match is going to smell like the crap
• 3:09:40
  slash diarrhea or whatever it was that the Big Show took that
• 3:09:44
  time when he stole Eddie Guerrero's Mexican food.
• 3:09:46
  My rear end is. Burning.
• 3:09:48
  It would be after eating Mexican food all right.
• 3:09:52
  All right, Jared, let's get it, man.
• 3:09:54
  OK. Announced today was the cast for
• 3:09:58
  this new American biographical sports film on John Madden.
• 3:10:03
  So it's going to be self-titled Madden.
• 3:10:05
  The cast was the craziest thing I've ever seen.
• 3:10:08
  Every different name crazy and last, first we got Shane Gillis
• 3:10:11
  in an undisclosed role. We've got Christian Bale as Al
• 3:10:14
  Davis, John Mulaney of Tripp Hawkins, the EA guy, Catherine
• 3:10:19
  Hannas, Virginia Madden, Sienna Miller as Carol Davis.
• 3:10:21
  And in the starring role as John Madden is Nicholas Cage.
• 3:10:26
  What it got? Great before.
• 3:10:30
  I could not believe what I was reading.
• 3:10:34
  He put on. What's that?
• 3:10:34
  Smell. And now I've gone mad at
• 3:10:37
  Thanksgiving. I'm going to say it smells like
• 3:10:38
  turducken because I don't know what to expect.
• 3:10:41
  But I know it's going to be weird, and I know I'm going to
• 3:10:43
  try. It did Johnny Depp get him that
• 3:10:45
  that role. Me.
• 3:10:48
  I I did a story on this as soon as I found out about it.
• 3:10:53
  It had to be a year ago. I think we've been talking.
• 3:10:56
  We did talk about it on the show when it first came out, I think.
• 3:10:58
  I don't know if you use it as what's.
• 3:10:59
  That 100% as soon as the first set photos came out I got on it
• 3:11:03
  it. Doesn't make sense.
• 3:11:07
  It's going to be. Interesting movie.
• 3:11:09
  Christian Bale's fantastic actor.
• 3:11:12
  And I love Christian American. Psycho.
• 3:11:14
  American Psycho, he was great. Batman All right, Java.
• 3:11:19
  You're up, man. Batman.
• 3:11:19
  Too, Yeah. I want to go to something that
• 3:11:22
  happened about, it was about a well, not even a week ago where
• 3:11:26
  Kevin Petula's house was burglarized as he was gone.
• 3:11:29
  And yeah, it was eggs, whatever. But man, you can tell me I suck.
• 3:11:34
  You can tell this, and I've said this before, but like when you
• 3:11:36
  do, like when my family's home, I don't care if it's eggs or
• 3:11:39
  whatever, but that's just like crossing the line.
• 3:11:42
  And I obviously he's not a hermit.
• 3:11:44
  People know where he lives. I'm assuming it's probably a
• 3:11:46
  nice neighborhood. I'm sure he's not on the streets
• 3:11:49
  of Philly. And that for me is just, it
• 3:11:53
  crosses the line when family comes in that smells like just
• 3:11:56
  people just not having some feel like, hey, you know what?
• 3:12:00
  This is my house. Like, do anything you want to
• 3:12:03
  me, but let's have a little respect and whatever and dignity
• 3:12:06
  for my family. And it smells like people just
• 3:12:09
  running around with dirty, shitty draws, just being
• 3:12:13
  miserable because they're Eagles fans.
• 3:12:15
  He tastes himself. Hi, ladies and gentlemen.
• 3:12:22
  My final, what's that smell is it's definitely diarrhea down
• 3:12:26
  their leg. I'm going to go with him and I,
• 3:12:29
  I did this two years ago and I went with this team to win the
• 3:12:32
  national championship. They came short and I'm going to
• 3:12:35
  go with them this year. I'm going to go with Purdue.
• 3:12:38
  I think Purdue has a chance this year to win the national
• 3:12:41
  championship 8 and O I'm not going with Shire.
• 3:12:44
  I'm not going with Duke because I don't trust Shire in the big
• 3:12:47
  game, but I do trust Purdue. I'm going with Purdue.
• 3:12:50
  They've been one of the first of all, they're a great they're
• 3:12:53
  every year they're have the most size, they can rebound.
• 3:12:57
  They're the I think they're the best defensive rebounding team
• 3:12:59
  in all of college basketball. They're one of the best
• 3:13:02
  offensive rebounding teams in the league and they're great
• 3:13:04
  shooting team. I expect them to go all the way
• 3:13:07
  to the Final Four this year unless some surprise thing
• 3:13:10
  happens. I wouldn't be surprised if they
• 3:13:12
  go undefeated all season long. This is a really, really good
• 3:13:15
  team and very well coached. One of the more underrated
• 3:13:17
  coaches in all of college basketball.
• 3:13:20
  So I'm going Purdue to win the national championship.
• 3:13:27
  Unless something. Weird ten baby.
• 3:13:29
  Unless something weird happens. One of our friends in Tobin
• 3:13:32
  Anderson contributed to that three years ago.
• 3:13:34
  And I want to tell you what it smells like.
• 3:13:35
  It doesn't smell nothing but beautiful roses not coming out
• 3:13:40
  of Speedy's ass. So there you go.
• 3:13:43
  So anything away from Speedy's ass is probably civil and safe.
• 3:13:48
  So stay away from his ass. Anyways, it was a wonderful
• 3:13:51
  show. I I will say that the content
• 3:13:53
  was great. By the way, thank you to Charlie
• 3:13:55
  Sloes for joining us. He was sensational.
• 3:13:57
  We really appreciate him. He gave us some great takes and
• 3:14:01
  baseball is nothing without Charlie Sloes and the job * And
• 3:14:06
  we could add Nick Goody on that one.
• 3:14:07
  But Nikki is a coaching some young baseball.
• 3:14:11
  But we'll have Nick Goody on next week.
• 3:14:13
  So thank you to all the fans on all the social medias by guys
• 3:14:16
  that reached out to me during the show wondering what happened
• 3:14:19
  to Quinton Jammer. You guys know now.
• 3:14:21
  So I apologize to the fans if I upsetted them on not getting the
• 3:14:26
  interview out again. We'll get Quinton Jammer on the
• 3:14:30
  show. I'll get a chance to have a
• 3:14:31
  conversation with them and hopefully clean up whatever
• 3:14:35
  happened in in any kind of way. That's why when you get a guest
• 3:14:39
  on the show, he's supposed to have a conversation on what he
• 3:14:43
  wants to talk about if if he's going to if he doesn't like the
• 3:14:47
  offset stuff that we, you know, we usually do on this show.
• 3:14:50
  That's what I would say on that. And hopefully he's not in his
• 3:14:53
  car the next time he comes on the show.
• 3:14:55
  I hate that. But anyways, again, thank you to
• 3:14:58
  all the Spotify Apple fans, the YouTube fans, the TikTok fans,
• 3:15:04
  the Twitter fans, the X fans, all the fans on all our show
• 3:15:08
  Instagram, all the fans following us, keep following us
• 3:15:12
  on, keep downloading us and keep enjoying the content that we put
• 3:15:16
  out. I again, I have a story up there
• 3:15:18
  about New York radio and I think people should check it out.
• 3:15:22
  It is a great it's a great read. All right.
• 3:15:25
  And if you like New York sports and you're wondering why New
• 3:15:28
  York sports sucks so much, maybe you should read that.
• 3:15:33
  But anyways, I, I have to laugh because I, I enjoy the show and
• 3:15:37
  I, I think our show is one of the best in, in the country.
• 3:15:40
  And I think if nobody is tuned into it or had a chance to tune
• 3:15:44
  into it, it doesn't know what we do on this show.
• 3:15:46
  Well, now you know, and you know that we, we, we could be
• 3:15:50
  outlandishly crazy and funny at the same time, but we know our
• 3:15:54
  stuff. We know our sports and we have a
• 3:15:55
  lot of fun doing it. So we appreciate all the fans
• 3:15:58
  that stand by us and listen to us and watch us and tune into us
• 3:16:02
  every single week. Yeah.
• 3:16:04
  What do we have on? Who do we have on next week?
• 3:16:06
  So Nathan was able to get one of Connor Harris.
• 3:16:09
  He's a player for the Savannah Bananas.
• 3:16:10
  He'll be joining us Monday at at 8:45.
• 3:16:13
  I'm going to try to get our friend Adam Vyrant, the coach as
• 3:16:15
  well. I'm going to see if he'll join.
• 3:16:16
  He'll come as well if if his player is coming on.
• 3:16:18
  So he'll be on Monday and then on Wednesday.
• 3:16:20
  Matt Gage, he pitched this season as a relief pitcher,
• 3:16:22
  played for the Giants and the Tigers this season.
• 3:16:24
  He'll be joining us on Wednesday at 9:00.
• 3:16:27
  That'll be fun. A little gagey.
• 3:16:29
  Well, it's not Gage, you know, just engage or whatever.
• 3:16:32
  Anyways, he's a football player. I know, I know.
• 3:16:35
  Anyways, yeah, it's been a great one.
• 3:16:38
  Again, fans, if you missed any of the show, go check it out.
• 3:16:41
  Go check it out on Job on the mouth, Spotify and Apple
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  YouTube. We'll have clips you know by.
• 3:16:48
  By the way, Jared is one more week with us, right?
• 3:16:50
  Jared? I think it's one more week with
• 3:16:52
  us. Yeah, I believe that's right.
• 3:16:55
  Yeah, and and and Jared, I don't know, Jared, you could come on
• 3:16:57
  whenever you want. So it's not one more week.
• 3:16:59
  If you want to join us whenever you want to join us, you could
• 3:17:01
  be a stay there. Two more.
• 3:17:03
  I'm sorry. Two more weeks.
• 3:17:04
  Two more weeks like a. That one over like a Fardon
• 3:17:06
  church. As it always does.
• 3:17:08
  Anyways, again, we appreciate you guys.
• 3:17:10
  We love you. Stay tuned on Friday.
• 3:17:14
  We've got another show, Speedy. Friday.
• 3:17:18
  Oh, I'm sorry today. Oh, tomorrow I'm.
• 3:17:20
  Sorry. Thursday game on with Josh
• 3:17:22
  Silverberg and probably his father at 6:00 PM.
• 3:17:25
  You know, sports ready. Can I give him, what is his
• 3:17:27
  father's name? Nelson.
• 3:17:28
  Nelson. Nellie Nell.
• 3:17:30
  We love Nelson. He's a Green Bay Packer fan too,
• 3:17:33
  and a Boston Brewer fan. How does that match anyways?
• 3:17:36
  Nelson. With a Mets fan mixed in there.
• 3:17:38
  It doesn't make any sense. It's not a fan.
• 3:17:39
  A Knick fan. Anyways, thank you.
• 3:17:41
  We'll talk to you next week. Good night.
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