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Furness Show 1-5: Hugh Millen, Mike Sando on Seahawks regular season and playoff preview · The Ian Furness Show

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  Speaker 2: the fact that Charles Cross reportedly has signed a contract
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  Speaker 2: FM Millen hardcore football on a Monday. Hello you, how
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  Speaker 2: are you my friend? Doing great? Yeah? What what a
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  Speaker 2: weekend football? Oh man? You know, and now it just
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  Speaker 2: gets even more fun, doesn't it? In a sense. And
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  Speaker 2: you know, the best the why, the reason it's really
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  Speaker 2: fun is weekend number one of the wild Card round.
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  Speaker 2: As a Seahawks fan, you don't even have to be stressed.
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  Speaker 2: You can just sit back and enjoy games. How's that? Huh?
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  Speaker 2: Not any bit? Teeny? I mean I'm kind of hoping
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  Speaker 2: for either.
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  Speaker 4: You're gonna go with You went on the road to
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  Speaker 4: Green Bay to win on the road, you know, so yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 4: Look if you said back in August you're the number
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  Speaker 4: one seed and you're gonna bite a couple of nails, uh,
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  Speaker 4: trying to determine who you're gonna host. You know, we
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  Speaker 4: just said where where's the pen? I'll sign up for that.
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  Speaker 4: But you know, I tell you oddly, you know, everybody
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  Speaker 4: knows the twelves are phenomenal and they're gonna they're gonna
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  Speaker 4: bring it to like nobody's business in that first game.
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  Speaker 4: But there is this little portion of me that just
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  Speaker 4: looks at the numbers in Seattle is not as good
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  Speaker 4: at home on defense.
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  Speaker 1: Yea.
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  Speaker 4: And you know, if I would want somebody to ask
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  Speaker 4: Mike McDonald at a press conference, it's like, okay, you've
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  Speaker 4: stressed that every time you talk about what's important about
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  Speaker 4: your defense, the word communication always comes up. So my
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  Speaker 4: first question would be how much of that communication that
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  Speaker 4: you say is so vital? How much of that is verbal?
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  Speaker 4: That would be just like the That would be the
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  Speaker 4: foundation question, yep. And then wait for a response, and
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  Speaker 4: if I might even ask, is any of that is
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  Speaker 4: any of that communication that is important for your defense?
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  Speaker 2: Is that verbal?
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  Speaker 4: If he says yes, then the next question is, well,
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  Speaker 4: is it a challenge or describe you know, how you
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  Speaker 4: handle that when you're playing at home?
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  Speaker 2: Okay? You know what in twelve? Okay? So along those lines,
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  Speaker 2: I'm trying to think who it was that I because
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  Speaker 2: I tried to get over there, depending on schedule most
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  Speaker 2: a lot of Wednesdays this year for the Wednesday media stuff.
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  Speaker 2: You as you know, coach speaks, players speaking. We would
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  Speaker 2: go on our little KJR closet there and have a
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  Speaker 2: player on and you bring that up and that rang
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  Speaker 2: a bell. I don't remember who it was. It could
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  Speaker 2: have been. Honestly, it could have been Jaron Reid, It
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  Speaker 2: could have been even Worry It could I mean, it
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  Speaker 2: could have been a lot of guys. We talked to
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  Speaker 2: a lot of guys. I talk a lot of defensive guys,
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  Speaker 2: now that I think of it. This year, somebody mentioned that.
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  Speaker 2: I forget who it was, but somebody mentioned it because
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  Speaker 2: we kind of joked about it. They said, they said, hey, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: it's it's great to have the twelves going nuts, but
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  Speaker 2: it's hard for us to communicate. And I remember it
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  Speaker 2: stuck out at me and I just remember him saying that,
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  Speaker 2: the players saying that. In fact, I think even asked
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  Speaker 2: Holgrin about it later. That was a Wednesday, later that day,
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  Speaker 2: but yeah, a player kind of admitted that, and I said, well,
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  Speaker 2: do you want them not to go? No it, we
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  Speaker 2: want them. It gives us amped up, but it does
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  Speaker 2: make it more challenging for us as a defense to communicate.
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  Speaker 2: So one of those guys that I'm thinking it was
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  Speaker 2: read you know, it feels like it's something Jaron ree
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  Speaker 2: would say, but but I can't. I can't recall.
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  Speaker 4: Well, it gets them amped up, and it also puts
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  Speaker 4: a big burden on the offense to communicate. And I mean, look,
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  Speaker 4: I you know, I've been out on a field a
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  Speaker 4: few times and I can hear those guys Lucky.
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  Speaker 2: Ringo, you know, nasty all their all their terminology is
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  Speaker 2: uh is stuff.
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  Speaker 4: You know, we can hear it on the offensive side
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  Speaker 4: of the bro And so I know that that in
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  Speaker 4: an ideal world that some of their communication is verbal,
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  Speaker 4: and you know, you just have to you know, you know,
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  Speaker 4: figure it out. But they busted a couple of coverages
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  Speaker 4: against the Rams, and you know, I just as I
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  Speaker 4: watched the tape, I'm just going that, how did they
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  Speaker 4: how did they bust that coverage? And and you know
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  Speaker 4: it does run through my mind. Is a little bit
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  Speaker 4: harder for them to play? Yeah, no, it.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, not just bristle.
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  Speaker 4: He'd laugh you out of the press conference if if
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  Speaker 4: you somehow suggested that he wouldn't rather write playoff games
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  Speaker 4: in front of the twelves that I'm not trying to
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  Speaker 4: sound absurd in there.
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  Speaker 2: I'm just saying it's a little bit of a challenge
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  Speaker 2: for them. No, I think you're right. I would. We're
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  Speaker 2: gonna get to HARDCRN a second, and this is something
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  Speaker 2: I'm gonna do later in the week. But since this
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  Speaker 2: is my one and only opportunity to talk to you
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  Speaker 2: on the air this week, you let me. You brought
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  Speaker 2: it up because there is so as I said, hey,
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  Speaker 2: we can kind of sit back and enjoy wildcard weekend.
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  Speaker 2: I know what I'm rooting for, but what are you
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  Speaker 2: rooting for? So, like, here's the thing, so Seahawks, because
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  Speaker 2: this is how it should work. National Hockey League, other leagues,
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  Speaker 2: this is how it should work Baseball, right, Anders, this
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  Speaker 2: is all Actually baseball does do it this way? Right?
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  Speaker 2: Does baseball this way? Yeah? NHL doesn't. NHL is the
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  Speaker 2: one that's most egregious racket. It's the most egregious thing
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  Speaker 2: in the world. Yes, you get the number one seed
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  Speaker 2: gets the hot the lowest remaining seed. So as we
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  Speaker 2: just go through the seeds, H two and seven, Bears,
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  Speaker 2: two packers, seven Panthers are four to five with the
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  Speaker 2: Rams four for the Panthers, five matchup for the Rams,
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  Speaker 2: and the Eagles are a three six matchup. Eagles are three,
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  Speaker 2: forty nine, Ers are six. So, Hugh, who do you
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  Speaker 2: want of the potential lowest seeds to come out? Who
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  Speaker 2: do you want to see in the orders? I don't
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  Speaker 2: think it's a hot take, but in order, Carolina would be.
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  Speaker 4: First choice, yep, Chicago would be second choice, Philadelphia third choice,
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  Speaker 4: Rams would be fourth choice.
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  Speaker 2: And forty nine Ers would be Yeah, what are forty
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  Speaker 2: nine ers fit in there? One? Oh? Forty nine ers? Packers?
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  Speaker 2: So so go through it. So number one would be Panthers, right, okay, yeah, okay, Panthers,
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  Speaker 2: then Packers. Yeah, so it would be one of the yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: then then Packers then yeah, I misspoke, I'm sorry. Then
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  Speaker 2: uh then uh but you go Eagles, then forty nine ers. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: the two and three are off the table. I'm sorry,
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  Speaker 2: it's it's it's either. It would be okay, reboot, can
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  Speaker 2: we start the music again? Do do do? Caroline would be.
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  Speaker 4: Number one, Yeah, Green Bay would be number two, the
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  Speaker 4: forty nine Ers would be number three, and the Rams
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  Speaker 4: would be number four. That's okay, we got it right,
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  Speaker 4: You got right?
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  Speaker 2: So yeah, and honestly, I would I would agree with
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  Speaker 2: you one hundred percent. I think I think everybody want
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  Speaker 2: to see the Panthers, like go upset the Rams again.
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  Speaker 2: Don't feel like that's going to happen. Packers for sure
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  Speaker 2: would come into that mix. No, Micah Parsons on a defense.
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  Speaker 2: It wasn't very good even with him at times wasn't
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  Speaker 2: very good. I mean they Joe flackll lit them up
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  Speaker 2: one day. So yeah, I'm with you in that regard.
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  Speaker 2: So there is a little consternation. I'll tell you, you don't.
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  Speaker 2: I don't want to see the Rams week one divisional round,
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  Speaker 2: Like I really don't want to see that. Like that
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  Speaker 2: would not make me comfortable at all.
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  Speaker 4: That might be the super Bowl in the division round
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  Speaker 4: if you're talking about fourteen teams. Yeah, well, actually, you
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  Speaker 4: know what, we got a little bit of a shotgun
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  Speaker 4: rider on this argument because Vegas odds right now Seahawks
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  Speaker 4: Shorders and Rams second show.
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  Speaker 2: No, isn't that wild, It's not.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, you could have the two best teams playing in
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  Speaker 4: the very you know, in the.
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  Speaker 2: That would be That would be very I'm just looking back,
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  Speaker 2: that would be very Yeah. You know what, there's a
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  Speaker 2: precedent for that, Hugh, and that would have been you
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  Speaker 2: would remember the year twenty thirteen, Gods year twenty thirteen,
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  Speaker 2: number that year pretty good year for football in Seattle.
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  Speaker 2: If we all remember what happened, how did they get there?
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  Speaker 2: The tip in the end Zone who they beat the
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  Speaker 2: Sampsonsco forty nine ers. Who. Oh, by the way, we're
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  Speaker 2: twelve and four. They have the second best record, tied
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  Speaker 2: with the Carolina behind Seattle at thirteen and three that year. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: that's varied rams. Boy, that's a distinct feel of something
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  Speaker 2: very similar, isn't it.
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  Speaker 4: I'll tell you something about that. So twenty thirteen, up
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  Speaker 4: until last season, twenty thirteen had the highest win person
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  Speaker 4: of NFC West had the highest win percentage of any
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  Speaker 4: division in the history of football I've seen the list.
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  Speaker 4: Number five was in nineteen thirty five, the Western Division
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  Speaker 4: because it was just West and East right, And so
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  Speaker 4: the win percentage for the NFC West in twenty thirteen
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  Speaker 4: was the highest in history until it was broken last
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  Speaker 4: season twenty twenty four. The NFC North.
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  Speaker 2: Wow. And now I looked up last week.
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  Speaker 4: It is the NFC West this week going to supplant
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  Speaker 4: the NFC North from last year. The answers, no, can't happen,
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  Speaker 4: didn't happen. I did not check whether or not the
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  Speaker 4: NFC West from this year could beat the NFC West
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  Speaker 4: from from twenty thirteen.
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  Speaker 2: I'll have to maybe check that in a break. I
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  Speaker 2: don't think. I don't think so only because well, I'll
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  Speaker 2: be close. Here's the thing. So, the worst team in
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  Speaker 2: the NFC West that year was was a Saint Louis Rams.
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  Speaker 2: They were and nine. Arizona missed the playoffs. Yeah, And
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  Speaker 2: Arizona was ten and six and missed the playoffs. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: which historically with the sixteen game schedule, if you had
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  Speaker 2: ten wins, you made the playoffs. They missed it at
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  Speaker 2: ten and six. So and then Seattle teams then right, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: yeah they have six, they had six, and they're thirteen
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  Speaker 2: to three and then obviously go twelve and four. So
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  Speaker 2: I mean just loaded, and I'm with you. I the Rams,
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  Speaker 2: no bueno, man, Let's see them later on, Like let's
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  Speaker 2: spoke the one down the road with that.
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  Speaker 4: One and the rest of the league would love to
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  Speaker 4: watch another iteration of McDonald versus McVeigh. Oh yeah, because
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  Speaker 4: that's just a heavyweight fight and they just keep taking
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  Speaker 4: those shots at each other. And it was Saturday with
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  Speaker 4: McDonald versus Shanahan. Shanahan is no less of an offensive
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  Speaker 4: mastermind than McVeigh. He just doesn't have the tools. I mean,
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  Speaker 4: they're not just losing players. The forty nine ers they're
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  Speaker 4: losing players that are going to be wearing yellow jackets
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  Speaker 4: in a not too distant future. That's not to detract
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  Speaker 4: from Seattle whatsoever, but you know, it's just a tip
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  Speaker 4: of the cap to Shanahan. And you know they're gonna
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  Speaker 4: They're gonna get Trent Williams healthy and Ricky Piersoll. So
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  Speaker 4: you know, I think they're formidable, but I still think
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  Speaker 4: that that I'd rather see them than the Rams.
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  Speaker 2: Charles Cross is in the Hall of Famer, like Trent Williams.
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  Speaker 2: I get that, but like I did want to put
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  Speaker 2: my hand through the television somewhere between I don't know,
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  Speaker 2: the fiftieth or sixtieth time it was mentioned that Trent
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  Speaker 2: Williams wasn't playing, Josh Jones was playing left tackle for Seattle,
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  Speaker 2: and Amari Kyde had a couple snaps too, and Josh
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  Speaker 2: Jones was not I mean he was not close. I
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  Speaker 2: mean that guy was a warrior playing out there. So
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  Speaker 2: I know you had a backup left tackle.
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  Speaker 4: I know gave up a sack, but yeah, but if
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  Speaker 4: you would have said prior to the Ram game, that
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  Speaker 4: big Thursday night Amazon game, right, if you'd have said,
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  Speaker 4: the next three games We're not gonna see Charles Cross.
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  Speaker 4: We're gonna We're gonna see Josh Jones, you know, I mean,
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  Speaker 4: of all the things that people are gonna laud John
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  Speaker 4: Schneider for, he might be Executive of the Year. I don't
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  Speaker 4: you know, I don't know who else would be in contention.
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  Speaker 4: I'm sure there's several, but but the case for John Schneider.
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  Speaker 4: People are seldom going to mention Josh Jones. But in
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  Speaker 4: my mind, the idea that you could have a left
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  Speaker 4: tackle that has performed as well as he has in
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  Speaker 4: these last three games, you haven't had to just you know,
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  Speaker 4: move Heaven and Earth and put two tight ends over
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  Speaker 4: there to chip every you know, he's been able to
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  Speaker 4: handle it. You know, he's he's decently athletic in the
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  Speaker 4: run game. I mean, they have been able to function
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  Speaker 4: better with this backup tackle than any backup tackle. I
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  Speaker 4: know there was a game maybe Stone Forsyth where they
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  Speaker 4: he had a pretty good game, but it was against
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  Speaker 4: weak opponent. This was this was like do or die.
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  Speaker 4: This is rams and forty nine ers must wins. And
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  Speaker 4: you had a guy, you know, making four million from
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  Speaker 4: the Ravens. That when you're when when the counterpartment was
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  Speaker 4: making one point two is is making George fanis making
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  Speaker 4: one point two this year for the Commanders.
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  Speaker 2: Yep.
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  Speaker 4: So the market speaks. It lets us know about what
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  Speaker 4: the league thinks about the players. Not that that's you know,
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  Speaker 4: everything's written in stone, but that that gives you an indication.
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  Speaker 4: So Seattle was willing to more than triple the price
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  Speaker 4: for a swing tackle man. Did that pay dividence? That's
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  Speaker 4: a big time move by John Schneider.
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  Speaker 2: Well, and you know, you think back to last year
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  Speaker 2: one of what were some of the and they finished
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  Speaker 2: with ten wins last season. You know, I know Lucas
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  Speaker 2: didn't have a great year this year, but I mean
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  Speaker 2: you were without Abel Lukens until the final five games
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  Speaker 2: last season. They thought George Fant would be the guy
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  Speaker 2: that could come in and step in. George Fann got
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  Speaker 2: hurt early. Never really saw George Fan And the rotation
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  Speaker 2: at the tackle position last year was horrific. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: it cost those guys probably you could probably make an
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  Speaker 2: argument it cost you a game somewhere in there right
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  Speaker 2: that not having that and as well as the other
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  Speaker 2: issues on the offensive line, but that was certainly one
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  Speaker 2: of those things that hurts you, so, Josh Jones. For me,
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  Speaker 2: I'm with you, like rightfully. So we're all a lotting
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  Speaker 2: John Schneider for his draft picks the last few years.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, the top two picks each of the last
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  Speaker 2: what three drafts have been all guys starting for you
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  Speaker 2: and making contributions. But it's those kind of little moves, right, Hugh,
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  Speaker 2: that the little move like that, Josh Jones, We're gonna
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  Speaker 2: we're gonna not gonna deal with this anymore. We're gonna
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  Speaker 2: get a swing tackle that can come in and play.
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  Speaker 2: And while he's not Charles Cross or Abe Lucas whatever
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  Speaker 2: it might be, he can play. That was That's huge.
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  Speaker 2: That is absolutely massive. I think for him.
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  Speaker 4: I think he he's going to start for somebody next year.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah right, I mean he's earned that in my opinion.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, you know, maybe you say he's not a
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  Speaker 4: top half offensive tackle, but he's you know, if.
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  Speaker 2: He if he was a starter, he wouldn't be the
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  Speaker 2: worst I could say that was certainty. Yeah right.
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  Speaker 4: But yeah, what a fun game Saturday night though, man,
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  Speaker 4: I just uh.
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  Speaker 2: We've got we've got I want to talk about the
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  Speaker 2: defense in the next segment. Let me just do this
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  Speaker 2: while his hardcore, hardcore football, and that's what we do
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  Speaker 2: here with Hugh Mill and I do want to ask
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  Speaker 2: you about And Mark brought this up with me a
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  Speaker 2: moment ago, and and I joked, I said, you know,
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  Speaker 2: when we saw the formation, we're watching it home, and
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  Speaker 2: it's like, okay, well it's it's third down and seventeen
• 16:07
  Speaker 2: at the Seattle twenty five in the third quarter, games
• 16:11
  Speaker 2: still very much in question, and the Seahawks have gone
• 16:15
  Speaker 2: you know, they've gone backwards with the penalty and everything else.
• 16:17
  Speaker 2: A sack I think it was. And I joked, I said, well,
• 16:20
  Speaker 2: this is where Max is the Max strong draw play, right,
• 16:23
  Speaker 2: that's what we're going to run. Max's not here anymore,
• 16:25
  Speaker 2: but it's Max strong drawplay. And there's Ken Walker and
• 16:28
  Speaker 2: Hugh he goes nineteen yards like like it was nineteen yards?
• 16:31
  Speaker 2: Was that good blocking? Was that good scheming? Was that
• 16:34
  Speaker 2: a good cut? What happened on that play?
• 16:37
  Speaker 4: Well, it was extraordinary blocking balls on the left hash
• 16:41
  Speaker 4: So it's a quick pitch. So you've got Kenneth Walker.
• 16:43
  Speaker 4: He's aligned to Sam Darnold's right, so he's going to
• 16:47
  Speaker 4: get to the perimeter faster like usually when you go wide.
• 16:51
  Speaker 4: You know, you're in the dot position right behind the
• 16:53
  Speaker 4: center or sometimes you you know, if there's a read
• 16:56
  Speaker 4: keep involved with the quarterback. It can be the running
• 16:59
  Speaker 4: back can on the left side even though he's going
• 17:02
  Speaker 4: trying to get to the right edge, right, but but
• 17:06
  Speaker 4: canaine the lives lines on the right side to get
• 17:09
  Speaker 4: the right edge.
• 17:09
  Speaker 2: So it hits a little quicker.
• 17:12
  Speaker 4: Great blocks at the point of attack attack Bobo and JSN.
• 17:18
  Speaker 4: Initially they have to block the the uh what's called
• 17:23
  Speaker 4: the overhang defender, the slot the nickel slot there.
• 17:25
  Speaker 2: Okay, so they do that.
• 17:27
  Speaker 4: Then Bobo has to he's got to take on the
• 17:31
  Speaker 4: block of a middle linebacker who's screaming out there, Tatum Bethane,
• 17:37
  Speaker 4: and they have a collision that's like you know on
• 17:40
  Speaker 4: the Discovery channel when you see two big horn sheet
• 17:43
  Speaker 4: just you know. And so somebody went to the concussion
• 17:47
  Speaker 4: protocol after that block, right, But I would say that
• 17:50
  Speaker 4: the it wasn't really the front side blocks. Yes, they
• 17:53
  Speaker 4: had it. What most impressed me so Sindel the center,
• 17:59
  Speaker 4: he's got to sprint and you see his athleticism. Jalen Sindel.
• 18:03
  Speaker 4: If we talked, you know, it doesn't have great power
• 18:06
  Speaker 4: but he has great athleticism, so he's sprinting out there.
• 18:09
  Speaker 4: And when I coached offensive line in middle school, because
• 18:12
  Speaker 4: when you're the head coach you have to coach everything.
• 18:15
  Speaker 4: I was very meticulous about coaching those kids, like, hey,
• 18:20
  Speaker 4: on these perimeter runs, you're that's your guy.
• 18:24
  Speaker 2: You have to block.
• 18:25
  Speaker 4: Don't take even one step towards him, not one step.
• 18:29
  Speaker 4: You have to sprint to the spot where you know
• 18:32
  Speaker 4: he's gonna be pursuing to And so in watching this,
• 18:36
  Speaker 4: it reminded me of coaching eighth graders because the center
• 18:40
  Speaker 4: sindel Is is running like a tight end.
• 18:43
  Speaker 2: You know.
• 18:45
  Speaker 4: You know, when do you ever say a center looks
• 18:46
  Speaker 4: beautiful running You don't. But but if relative to other centers,
• 18:51
  Speaker 4: you got me, Sundows. So he's sprinting out there, he's
• 18:54
  Speaker 4: getting he gets, uh the extra block on that overhang
• 18:58
  Speaker 4: defender I describe's an Gray's abel. He's got to block
• 19:03
  Speaker 4: the backside inside backer. But again he's got a sprint
• 19:07
  Speaker 4: to a spot where he knows he's gonna meet him.
• 19:10
  Speaker 4: He does a great job, and you've got the backup
• 19:15
  Speaker 4: tight end, uh Salbert. He is on the backside tight end,
• 19:20
  Speaker 4: way away from the formation. He's got a sprint to
• 19:24
  Speaker 4: get to the backside safety. So all these linemen are
• 19:27
  Speaker 4: blocking relatively little dudes in space. Yeah, but somehow they
• 19:32
  Speaker 4: get a body on those guys. And in both the
• 19:35
  Speaker 4: cases Abel and Salbert, they rode those guys for a
• 19:39
  Speaker 4: good eight yards. And then that combined with K nine,
• 19:44
  Speaker 4: even though he was running right in you know, you think, okay,
• 19:47
  Speaker 4: we are we gonna get to the sideline. No, he
• 19:49
  Speaker 4: elected to cut it up right up the numbers. The
• 19:53
  Speaker 4: outside edge of the numbers is twelve yards from the sideline,
• 19:55
  Speaker 4: so when he went up the numbers, he was giving
• 19:58
  Speaker 4: up a lot of space.
• 19:59
  Speaker 2: But but the.
• 20:00
  Speaker 4: One unmanned defender out there for San Francisco, the safety
• 20:06
  Speaker 4: he overran because his responsibility Jayra Brown, He's got to
• 20:10
  Speaker 4: get out to that sideline. But what did I just say?
• 20:12
  Speaker 4: Canine didn't get to the sideline? Wrote he wrote a
• 20:15
  Speaker 4: path right up the numbers, which is twelve between twelve
• 20:18
  Speaker 4: and fourteen yards from the sideline, because the numbers are
• 20:21
  Speaker 4: two yards tall, so that little alley it almost looked
• 20:24
  Speaker 4: like a screenplay. Like screen you always say, okay, let's
• 20:27
  Speaker 4: run the numbers. But it was beautiful blocking on everybody's
• 20:31
  Speaker 4: part and great vision by Canine two sense. And I
• 20:37
  Speaker 4: think probably if you said what was the one heroic
• 20:40
  Speaker 4: block more than others probably have to say bobo yep.
• 20:44
  Speaker 4: But you know I would, I would say a strong
• 20:48
  Speaker 4: honorable mentions as I said to your center, your left guard,
• 20:51
  Speaker 4: and your backside tight end.
• 20:53
  Speaker 2: Well, Hugh, it was. It was a hell of a
• 20:55
  Speaker 2: game and a lot of different levels. So let's do this,
• 20:57
  Speaker 2: Let's take a break, we'll come back. We want to
• 20:58
  Speaker 2: talk about the defense as well, because it was I
• 21:01
  Speaker 2: think pretty darn good. But it was all said and done.
• 21:03
  Speaker 2: Hugh Millen is here. It's hardcore football. More to come.
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• 21:28
  Speaker 2: Hardcore Football. Hugh Mellen joins us right now. Seahawks number
• 21:34
  Speaker 2: one seeds. We all know what's happened. Wh they've been
• 21:36
  Speaker 2: the number one seed the other previous times there's been
• 21:39
  Speaker 2: a trip to a venue that hosts a big game
• 21:42
  Speaker 2: sometime in February. All three of those times, once with
• 21:45
  Speaker 2: coach Holmgren twice with Pete Carroll. Hey, by the way,
• 21:47
  Speaker 2: just real quick you Pete Carroll got let go today?
• 21:51
  Speaker 2: Quick thought on that. Obviously, Mikecdonald's done a great job
• 21:54
  Speaker 2: taking this team to a different level, and it was
• 21:55
  Speaker 2: probably time to make a change. But I don't think we.
• 21:58
  Speaker 2: I don't think many people don't think anything in this
• 22:00
  Speaker 2: town forgets what Pete Carroll did for the Seahawks organization, right,
• 22:04
  Speaker 2: I don't know if they do.
• 22:06
  Speaker 4: I think that some people, you know, may may have
• 22:11
  Speaker 4: been rooting against him. Well, even if you were, I
• 22:15
  Speaker 4: think at this point when he loses his job, you know,
• 22:18
  Speaker 4: I think it's a little bit sad. You know, here's
• 22:20
  Speaker 4: a guy that had had as an NFL coach with
• 22:23
  Speaker 4: the Patriots and the Jets, had you know, had obviously
• 22:27
  Speaker 4: flamed out and was not productive, and so he remade
• 22:33
  Speaker 4: himself and he was USC's fourth choice. He made himself
• 22:37
  Speaker 4: into a Hall of fame coach at USC, and then
• 22:40
  Speaker 4: he said, well, I think I can bring that same
• 22:44
  Speaker 4: you know, underlying tenets of my philosophies to the NFL.
• 22:48
  Speaker 4: He did, and it worked, and so it's you know,
• 22:51
  Speaker 4: he All I can say is the franchise has been
• 22:54
  Speaker 4: around for fifty years. He got one Super Bowl and
• 22:57
  Speaker 4: he was the coach to do it. So I think that, yeah,
• 23:00
  Speaker 4: that you know that, that that's like Teflon, like he's he's,
• 23:04
  Speaker 4: you know, beyond any criticism after that.
• 23:06
  Speaker 2: With you, I wish you wouldn't have taken the job
• 23:08
  Speaker 2: just selfishly. And not that I have any say. It's
• 23:11
  Speaker 2: not my world as it is, but yeah, I just yeah,
• 23:13
  Speaker 2: because it just I don't want anything to taint this
• 23:15
  Speaker 2: guy's legacy. He was something else when he left. They
• 23:19
  Speaker 2: still were good here. It's not like they were. He's
• 23:21
  Speaker 2: leaving a team that was had two or three wins.
• 23:22
  Speaker 2: So all right, Uh eight carries twenty three yards two
• 23:27
  Speaker 2: point nine yards a carry. That's Christian McCaffrey's line on Saturday,
• 23:33
  Speaker 2: the over under. For those curious for these certain types
• 23:36
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• 23:40
  Speaker 2: sixty three something like that. Seemed like a pretty easy bet.
• 23:43
  Speaker 2: Uh No, it wasn't. Seahawks held him. To let me
• 23:47
  Speaker 2: repeat this, Hugh twenty three yards on the ground, thirty
• 23:52
  Speaker 2: four yards on six receptions, Like you gotta be kidding,
• 23:56
  Speaker 2: What the hell is that Seahawk defense?
• 23:58
  Speaker 4: Dan, Yeah, so his his carries he uh he faced
• 24:05
  Speaker 4: and a heavy box. Just one time. Seattle was able
• 24:09
  Speaker 4: to do that with both safeties back, did not need
• 24:13
  Speaker 4: the extra man down in the box.
• 24:15
  Speaker 2: They did it with just their front seven.
• 24:17
  Speaker 4: And even though Kyle Yusteff was on on the field
• 24:21
  Speaker 4: for many of those plays, nineteen of them, Seattle still
• 24:26
  Speaker 4: stayed in their in their nickel. They never went to
• 24:29
  Speaker 4: any kind of base. They stayed in their nickel, and
• 24:33
  Speaker 4: they they just shut that running game down. And they
• 24:36
  Speaker 4: only tried. They tried to counter the forty nine tried
• 24:38
  Speaker 4: to counter one time with pulling both the right guard
• 24:42
  Speaker 4: and the right tackle and Derek Hall give him. You know,
• 24:46
  Speaker 4: he was just in a salty mood all day because
• 24:49
  Speaker 4: of that suspension. And when you play that back that
• 24:53
  Speaker 4: that's a violent play because you're got because he's the
• 24:56
  Speaker 4: right Now we're going to go from the defensive perspective,
• 24:59
  Speaker 4: he's the right end and and and the guard from
• 25:02
  Speaker 4: the opposite side of the ball has come to kick
• 25:04
  Speaker 4: him out. And when he senses the lineman on his side,
• 25:09
  Speaker 4: what's called reducing getting closer to the ball he's got
• 25:13
  Speaker 4: to close, and he's got to close hard and blow
• 25:15
  Speaker 4: that guard up to squeeze the hole. So the defensive
• 25:19
  Speaker 4: tackles they have to anchor. You have the the end
• 25:23
  Speaker 4: has to close and the linebackers have to scrape. That's
• 25:25
  Speaker 4: how you have to defend that type of of of scheme.
• 25:30
  Speaker 4: And that's exactly what happened. And you see Derek Hall,
• 25:32
  Speaker 4: he just there's a lot of players in this league
• 25:36
  Speaker 4: that they take it on with kind of feigning enthusiasm. No,
• 25:41
  Speaker 4: Derek Hall blew that damn play up. But other than that,
• 25:44
  Speaker 4: it was all zone blocking, uh some of it with
• 25:46
  Speaker 4: the lead and and they just they just sorted it out.
• 25:51
  Speaker 4: And here's another thing. There was not a single safety
• 25:56
  Speaker 4: or or a corner involved in any tackle in the
• 26:01
  Speaker 4: running game. No tackles by any secondary member. If not
• 26:06
  Speaker 4: not counting I'm counting even Worry as a nickel safety
• 26:08
  Speaker 4: in that In that comment got.
• 26:10
  Speaker 2: Me all seven of even Warrior's tackles came in the
• 26:13
  Speaker 2: past game. No, I I I misspoke.
• 26:17
  Speaker 4: If if in my mind when I watched the Seahawks
• 26:20
  Speaker 4: their front even Warrior is this Sam linebacker.
• 26:23
  Speaker 2: Got what I'm saying is the four perimeter the other corners.
• 26:29
  Speaker 4: So and then when they're in dime, you know that
• 26:32
  Speaker 4: they I mean, Riek Wolan had a hell of a
• 26:34
  Speaker 4: game too. But but Tayo Coatta and Julian Love and Witherspoon,
• 26:40
  Speaker 4: they had some nice plays, but they didn't make a
• 26:43
  Speaker 4: tackle in the running game. They made tackles in the
• 26:45
  Speaker 4: passing game. And and it was it was the front.
• 26:49
  Speaker 4: So what I'm trying to say, not very not articulating
• 26:52
  Speaker 4: very well, is is Seattle aligned with their front seven
• 26:56
  Speaker 4: to stop. They didn't need the eighth man. They both
• 27:00
  Speaker 4: in both in their alignment of pre snap and right
• 27:04
  Speaker 4: and in how they pursued the ball. They essentially played
• 27:09
  Speaker 4: with seven dudes, the seven guys on the front, the
• 27:12
  Speaker 4: four linemen and three linebackers. And I'm counting even where
• 27:16
  Speaker 4: he is a linebacker. In this comment, they could have
• 27:18
  Speaker 4: turned around to the secondary and said, you guys can
• 27:20
  Speaker 4: take the playoff. You know, it's no it's you know,
• 27:23
  Speaker 4: it's not a penalty to.
• 27:24
  Speaker 2: Play with seven guys. They could have turned on and
• 27:26
  Speaker 2: said we're good, We're good, our.
• 27:28
  Speaker 4: Seven guy, We're fine. They just they built a wall
• 27:31
  Speaker 4: with the defensive tackles. They the ends, they got a
• 27:35
  Speaker 4: nice rotation, a healthy rotation with defensive ends. And when
• 27:39
  Speaker 4: they get their their their their bite at the apple man,
• 27:42
  Speaker 4: they are freaking salty and and uh yeah, they just
• 27:46
  Speaker 4: they just stone them and uh, you know, very active.
• 27:50
  Speaker 4: But but holding the middle and creating a wall in
• 27:53
  Speaker 4: that middle is where it starts. And then furthermore, you
• 27:57
  Speaker 4: mentioned McCaffrey six catches fifteen yards after the catch. That's
• 28:03
  Speaker 4: two point five per catch he averages in his career
• 28:07
  Speaker 4: seven point seven.
• 28:08
  Speaker 2: Wow.
• 28:08
  Speaker 4: So that's a big part of what they do. And
• 28:10
  Speaker 4: and on those option routes that that he's that they
• 28:14
  Speaker 4: like to run with him. Hey, it didn't matter. He
• 28:17
  Speaker 4: had Drake Thomas and Nick emn Worry. It's like, we
• 28:21
  Speaker 4: got you, bro, But they just they did a hell
• 28:25
  Speaker 4: of a job. McCaffrey, He's like, you know, we're sitting
• 28:27
  Speaker 4: there talking about who we don't want to see.
• 28:29
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll tell you one thing.
• 28:29
  Speaker 4: I'll tell you two guys who don't want to see
• 28:31
  Speaker 4: Seattle Brock Perdy and Christian McCaffrey.
• 28:34
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, one hundred percent. Well two things. One, I
• 28:37
  Speaker 2: like angry Derek Hall a lot he had he only
• 28:40
  Speaker 2: had one. He only had for this weekend. Yeah, he
• 28:43
  Speaker 2: can't play walk card weekend. He only had one official tackle,
• 28:46
  Speaker 2: but he had three quarterback kids. And it felt like
• 28:48
  Speaker 2: we saw him all day. Like it felt like every
• 28:50
  Speaker 2: time he looked out, he saw him in the middle somewhere.
• 28:53
  Speaker 2: And that position you can tell me, Hugh, that particular
• 28:56
  Speaker 2: position he plays. Like I said, he doesn't have to
• 28:59
  Speaker 2: make the tackle, but if he's disrupting, someone else is
• 29:01
  Speaker 2: going to make a play, right. Yeah.
• 29:02
  Speaker 4: Well, and McDonald made comments about how they played selfless.
• 29:06
  Speaker 4: You know, as I said on that when you're defending
• 29:08
  Speaker 4: gap scheme, you're the end man. You know that guard's coming.
• 29:10
  Speaker 4: That's just that's babe. You know, that's just basically it's
• 29:14
  Speaker 4: a test of wills. Yeah, you know who wants it more? Yeah,
• 29:17
  Speaker 4: And and and you know you're you're gonna be giving
• 29:20
  Speaker 4: up upwards of sixty seventy pounds to a man who's running.
• 29:24
  Speaker 4: You know, he's got a four or five yard has
• 29:27
  Speaker 4: you know. But but you got to sniff it out,
• 29:29
  Speaker 4: recognize it, and close that hole and just blow the
• 29:32
  Speaker 4: play up. Knowing you got to keep your you got
• 29:35
  Speaker 4: to keep your outside shoulder free unless you want to
• 29:37
  Speaker 4: turn what's called log a wrong arm it, in which
• 29:40
  Speaker 4: case the offense guard might log you and and the
• 29:43
  Speaker 4: ball may bounce outside.
• 29:44
  Speaker 2: You know.
• 29:45
  Speaker 4: I mean, there's that's for any of the football coaches
• 29:49
  Speaker 4: or players that that are saying, wait a minute, he
• 29:51
  Speaker 4: doesn't always have to take on the inside shoulder, but
• 29:53
  Speaker 4: as a general rule, you want that in man to
• 29:56
  Speaker 4: just collapse inside, blow it up with your inside shoulder,
• 30:00
  Speaker 4: knowing that you're probably not gonna make the tackle, but
• 30:04
  Speaker 4: you squeeze the hole and then you know it's a
• 30:06
  Speaker 4: box of coat hangers. And next scene it was I
• 30:09
  Speaker 4: think it was either zero or one yards on that play.
• 30:12
  Speaker 4: And guess what Shanahan said, Uh, I'm out of the
• 30:15
  Speaker 4: gap scheme business, meaning the pulling guard business, and I
• 30:19
  Speaker 4: have seen. Just to put that in context, let's understand
• 30:22
  Speaker 4: who the forty nine ers are. Can we, first a
• 30:24
  Speaker 4: second give them a little bit of props? Sure, because
• 30:28
  Speaker 4: I mean, just let's just be objective. Let's let's be
• 30:30
  Speaker 4: adults about this. Kyle Shannon got the job in twenty seventeen.
• 30:34
  Speaker 4: By twenty nineteen, they were thirteen and three, and they
• 30:36
  Speaker 4: went on to the Super Bowl. Since twenty nineteen, the
• 30:41
  Speaker 4: forty nine Ers have more wins than any team in
• 30:44
  Speaker 4: the NFC and against the Seahawks playing in that stadium,
• 30:50
  Speaker 4: they averaged one hundred and fifty one yards per game
• 30:54
  Speaker 4: rushing on thirty one rushes. You're up over thirty rush attempts.
• 30:59
  Speaker 4: You are rolling the football game. And by the way,
• 31:01
  Speaker 4: they add two hundred and fifty six yards passing in that.
• 31:06
  Speaker 4: That's what Seattle has dealt with. And they're not a
• 31:08
  Speaker 4: hell of a lot lower in Seahawks stadium. I use
• 31:13
  Speaker 4: that because they have all the sponsors bounced around, but
• 31:16
  Speaker 4: the one hundred and thirty four yards in playing against
• 31:19
  Speaker 4: Seattle when Seattle's at home, but giving again in that
• 31:22
  Speaker 4: stadium one hundred and fifty one yards. We've seen a
• 31:25
  Speaker 4: lot of forty nine er games where we just go
• 31:28
  Speaker 4: that is a fit. They are the most physical team
• 31:31
  Speaker 4: in football. They got they play with the most twenty
• 31:34
  Speaker 4: one personnel since twenty nineteen, which is when they get
• 31:39
  Speaker 4: that fullback in there, they get Kiddle. They have two
• 31:43
  Speaker 4: thousand and four and forty nine plays. The next closest
• 31:46
  Speaker 4: is fourteen seventy nine. That's almost one thousand less. The
• 31:49
  Speaker 4: average is five to sixteen for the NFL. So let
• 31:52
  Speaker 4: me say that again. The forty nine Ers play almost
• 31:56
  Speaker 4: quintuple five times as much in a personnel group that
• 32:00
  Speaker 4: features a nasty fullback and a great blocking tight end.
• 32:03
  Speaker 2: That's who they are. And by the way, with Deebo.
• 32:06
  Speaker 4: Samuel all those years physical receiver, Seattle just I said
• 32:10
  Speaker 4: it earlier they out forty nine er, the forty nine ers,
• 32:14
  Speaker 4: and it's okay to say that because for the last
• 32:17
  Speaker 4: six years they've been the brand of that type of football.
• 32:20
  Speaker 4: They and Cooper Cup he didn't do much. I'll tell
• 32:23
  Speaker 4: you what he was. What the term is called fold blocking.
• 32:26
  Speaker 4: He was fold blocking. They line him up close to
• 32:28
  Speaker 4: the tight end of the tackle. At the snap of
• 32:30
  Speaker 4: the ball, he loops back underneath behind the line of line,
• 32:34
  Speaker 4: the lineman and then leads up in the B gap
• 32:37
  Speaker 4: on a safety or sometimes a linebacker. So he was
• 32:39
  Speaker 4: doing Deebo Samuel stuff. So Seattle on the physical and
• 32:43
  Speaker 4: on one other point, I mean it just the tape
• 32:47
  Speaker 4: and running the numbers the forty nine ers. When I
• 32:50
  Speaker 4: say Seattle out forty nine or the forty nine ers,
• 32:54
  Speaker 4: the forty nine ers on Saturday night, they were under
• 32:57
  Speaker 4: center and with with two with two back on three
• 33:03
  Speaker 4: snaps three That's who they are. They only did it
• 33:07
  Speaker 4: three times. Seattle thirty seven of the thirty excuse me,
• 33:11
  Speaker 4: thirty three of their thirty seven runs under center. Wow,
• 33:15
  Speaker 4: they were thirty three to three. They ten xt the
• 33:19
  Speaker 4: forty nine ers at their own game and they said,
• 33:23
  Speaker 4: you know what they just said, Yeah, you you think
• 33:26
  Speaker 4: you have a moniker about about how to play physical.
• 33:29
  Speaker 4: Let me take the belt and the crown and every
• 33:32
  Speaker 4: other and your badge and your lapel and everything that
• 33:35
  Speaker 4: that that crowns.
• 33:36
  Speaker 2: You as that. No that you know that.
• 33:39
  Speaker 4: I just I just love how how physical the Seahawks
• 33:43
  Speaker 4: were in every phase of the game.
• 33:45
  Speaker 2: Seahawks, uh Ken Walker, Zach Sharvine thirty three carries. You said, oh,
• 33:49
  Speaker 2: you're over thirty. You're doing something. Let's talk about the
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  Speaker 2: two o'clock. We took a tour of the NFL with
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  Speaker 2: him his pick six columns up at the Athletic. So
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  Speaker 2: you you just you said something that caught my attention
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  Speaker 2: because I want to get the Seahawk offense anyway. Hey,
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  Speaker 2: if you're running the ball, if you have thirty one
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  Speaker 2: or so rush attempts. Seattle had thirty nine six where
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  Speaker 2: Donald scrambles, but the two running backs Ken Walker at
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  Speaker 2: sixteen Jacks Harmony seventeen rushing attempts. So those two combined
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  Speaker 2: for thirty three rushing attempts in the game. Do the
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  Speaker 2: Seahawk running backs. People will point to the low score
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  Speaker 2: for Seattle's offense, I'll point to the W in the
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  Speaker 2: win column. What'd you see though from the offense? Well,
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  Speaker 2: I think that they just had the running game going.
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  Speaker 2: They they started with the stretch. They mixed in the
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  Speaker 2: wide zone, and you see a lot of evidence of
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  Speaker 2: San Francisco feeling the need to get to the perimeter
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  Speaker 2: because of the wide zone play, which opened up cutback
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  Speaker 2: lanes a number of times. The Charbonnay touchdown early on
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  Speaker 2: was due to over pursuit. But then when they ran
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  Speaker 2: there what's called a dual play where you're really trying
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  Speaker 2: to get it's a strong side play to the tight
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  Speaker 2: end and you're trying to get all the offensive lineman
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  Speaker 2: really focusing on a great double team and movement. When
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  Speaker 2: I then this is the second time I'm going to
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  Speaker 2: reference this. When when I.
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  Speaker 4: Would when we would teach eighth graders on any double team,
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  Speaker 4: hip to hip, right, shoulder to shoulder, and then I
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  Speaker 4: would ask the kids, what kind of movement do we want?
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  Speaker 2: Massive?
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  Speaker 4: And it was just always massive movement, massive movement, massive movement,
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  Speaker 4: like drill it into their heads, like if you have
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  Speaker 4: a double team, you better get massive movement, right And
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  Speaker 4: and the six I don't know if it was getting massive,
• 36:00
  Speaker 4: but they had massive results right when when you had
• 36:03
  Speaker 4: talking about that kind of domination. And I can't say
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  Speaker 4: enough the idea that they they got under center for
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  Speaker 4: thirty three rushers and and they forty nine ers only
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  Speaker 4: got under center for three of their rusher rushes. That
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  Speaker 4: there's a certain mentality of what you're saying when you say, hey,
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  Speaker 4: we're gonna get under center and we're just gonna freaking
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  Speaker 4: attack you in the running game. And we they had
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  Speaker 4: Robbie uts had had sixteen plays and and he was
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  Speaker 4: and so they and that was the second most of
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  Speaker 4: the season for him. So they in that personnel grouping
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  Speaker 4: having a fullback, it's kind of like looking at the
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  Speaker 4: forty nine ers going, we you know, we're doing what
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  Speaker 4: you want to do. You know, we're we're taking we're
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  Speaker 4: stealing your identity and and and and beating you at
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  Speaker 4: your own game, you know.
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  Speaker 5: So uh.
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  Speaker 4: They did not mentioned that there wasn't a lot of
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  Speaker 4: gap scheme in the in the game by either one.
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  Speaker 4: What is gap scheme when you block down towards the
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  Speaker 4: ball at the point of attack as opposed away from
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  Speaker 4: the ball, and then you pull backside pullers. Seattle ran
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  Speaker 4: power left one time. It didn't work with Anthony Bradford pulling,
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  Speaker 4: and so they never went back to it. They did
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  Speaker 4: a trap right with Grey's Abel the center. Sundell didn't
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  Speaker 4: get a good block, so that didn't work well either.
• 37:27
  Speaker 4: So the rest of it, Kubiak just said, all right,
• 37:29
  Speaker 4: we're fine inside outside zone and duo and uh and
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  Speaker 4: and they just controlled the game with it. And Donald
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  Speaker 4: didn't have to do a lot. He was really good
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  Speaker 4: at what he what he was asked to do and
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  Speaker 4: and yet it wasn't asked to do a lot.
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  Speaker 2: So how would you evaluate Sam Darnold.
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  Speaker 4: Well, I think that the the sack from the beginning was, uh,
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  Speaker 4: you know, you're gonna give him a minus on that.
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  Speaker 2: His vision.
• 37:55
  Speaker 4: He couldn't see the running back in the flat. Although
• 37:58
  Speaker 4: there's a wrinkle that Seattle did I went, which is
• 38:01
  Speaker 4: they instead of having the full back out of the
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  Speaker 4: I formation in the flat where it flashes a little
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  Speaker 4: quicker for the quarterback, they had Robbie UT's block on
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  Speaker 4: the perimeter, and they had Charbonnay, who had lined up
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  Speaker 4: deep in the I formation, have him on the flat.
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  Speaker 4: So they reverse their assignments and that's not typical. I
• 38:26
  Speaker 4: went back in the NFL over the weekend. I went
• 38:30
  Speaker 4: looked at all the the goal line play action passes
• 38:34
  Speaker 4: from the one yard line involving two running backs. Looked
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  Speaker 4: at twenty three. The Titans, Houston, and Cincinnati all did that,
• 38:46
  Speaker 4: but all the rest of them, they are they're inclined
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  Speaker 4: to have the full back in the flat first. It's
• 38:52
  Speaker 4: just easier on the quarterback. And so Darnold got away
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  Speaker 4: from it. Clearly the block was in his vision because
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  Speaker 4: I've got us actually send you the screen shot. Starbon
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  Speaker 4: as wide open there anyways, So he takes the sack.
• 39:07
  Speaker 4: Anthony Bradford didn't see the delay Blitzer how he missed it.
• 39:10
  Speaker 4: I have no idea, but Donald should never take a sack.
• 39:13
  Speaker 4: That's a big no no. But other than that, look
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  Speaker 4: you through the comeback out of his goal line over
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  Speaker 4: on the sideline to a JSN. That was a beautiful play.
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  Speaker 4: He had a play action little what's called skid route,
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  Speaker 4: the one where JSN made that great catch behind him.
• 39:29
  Speaker 4: I actually, if I was grading the receivers, I would
• 39:34
  Speaker 4: give Jaysn a plus because of a beautiful catch. And
• 39:37
  Speaker 4: it's a results business. Let me say that again. I'd
• 39:39
  Speaker 4: give him a plus for that, but we would have
• 39:42
  Speaker 4: a talk about why he was screaming so fast in
• 39:45
  Speaker 4: that zone. Here's a guy that has as high IQ
• 39:48
  Speaker 4: as you know as you're gonna find this side a
• 39:51
  Speaker 4: Cooper cup, and he was going through that zone a
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  Speaker 4: little too fast, and so Donald was holding him up
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  Speaker 4: with purpose and ends up making a great catch behind it,
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  Speaker 4: you know, And people say, oh, well that you know
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  Speaker 4: that it's got to be more accurate. No, the receiver
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  Speaker 4: has to idle down in that hole that's zone covers
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  Speaker 4: idle down. But but the the play he made on
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  Speaker 4: the scramble the third down in the fourth quarter where
• 40:15
  Speaker 4: where he got to the ball the cup off the script,
• 40:18
  Speaker 4: ye was a big play. So so he made some
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  Speaker 4: plays down the field. He wasn't he wasn't there was
• 40:24
  Speaker 4: there was a play where I thought that he could
• 40:26
  Speaker 4: have cranked it up and heaved a big high angle
• 40:29
  Speaker 4: corner to UH to receive Shaheed on a on a
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  Speaker 4: on a what's called the weak side flood concept where
• 40:36
  Speaker 4: they hit JAS trying to hit JSN as an intermediate crosser.
• 40:40
  Speaker 2: But Shaheed has taken the high.
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  Speaker 4: Flag corner as the clearout, and I thought there was
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  Speaker 4: a green light to throw that. So so I think
• 40:47
  Speaker 4: maybe there was a little bit of a conservativism to him.
• 40:50
  Speaker 4: But you know what, I think he listened to all
• 40:54
  Speaker 4: the people ragging on him about being too aggressive, and
• 40:57
  Speaker 4: he probably sensed the tenor of how is his the
• 41:01
  Speaker 4: rest of his team was playing around him. His defense
• 41:03
  Speaker 4: is running game and and just don't gumb it up
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  Speaker 4: and so but you know what, the guy is thirty
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  Speaker 4: two and nine over his last forty one starts, which
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  Speaker 4: is by like now we're pushing like seven hundred and
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  Speaker 4: eighty seven to eighty win percentage. There's there's nobody else
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  Speaker 4: over seven thirty. He's got a much higher win percentage
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  Speaker 4: than than Pat Mahomes over that period. We're going we're
• 41:25
  Speaker 4: talking about going back to November twenty twenty two. That's
• 41:28
  Speaker 4: forty forty uh forty one starts in with four different teams,
• 41:35
  Speaker 4: four different organizations, sets of receivers, blah blah blah. You know, uh, terminology,
• 41:40
  Speaker 4: the works pretty good, pretty good. So, I mean, this
• 41:46
  Speaker 4: isn't the time to you know, he's not he's gonna
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  Speaker 4: be He's not gonna be in the news right because
• 41:50
  Speaker 4: he did he didn't have a great game.
• 41:51
  Speaker 2: He certainly didn't have a you know, a poor game.
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  Speaker 4: You know, this is just kind of a time for
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  Speaker 4: any anybody who's incline to pick on him. I don't
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  Speaker 4: know why you would be, but but you know, he's
• 42:04
  Speaker 4: not much of a discussion point for this game.
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  Speaker 2: No. I thought, you know what I asked for this reason.
• 42:08
  Speaker 2: I thought Sam Donald did exactly what Sam Donald needed
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  Speaker 2: to do in that game. Made a couple of plays
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  Speaker 2: when he had to keep drives alive. Right, Obviously, the
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  Speaker 2: mistake at the goal line. But this fine, that's what
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  Speaker 2: made the plays. He had to a couple of third
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  Speaker 2: down plays and made some throws, made to have the scramble,
• 42:23
  Speaker 2: did what he needed to do because there has I
• 42:25
  Speaker 2: got to go here, but there has to be a
• 42:27
  Speaker 2: thing where you know as a quarterback what your defense
• 42:31
  Speaker 2: is doing. Right, and it's like, Okay, the only way
• 42:34
  Speaker 2: we lose this game is if we lose it on offense, right,
• 42:37
  Speaker 2: Like that's the only and he did what he needed
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  Speaker 2: to do to win. I'm just glad for him, Like
• 42:43
  Speaker 2: won that game, the Seahawks win that game. He doesn't
• 42:46
  Speaker 2: throw a pick, beautiful. Let's get the hell out of Dodge.
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  Speaker 2: Let's enjoy a couple of weeks off. That's what good
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  Speaker 2: teams do. You wait for a buy and let's go
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  Speaker 2: or last week a couple weeks ago. How does Mike
• 45:48
  Speaker 2: Sander put together this incredible piece, this column that goes
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  Speaker 2: up every week in the Athletic And you said you
• 45:53
  Speaker 2: start working on on Tuesday Wednesday of the previous week
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  Speaker 2: and started kind of grinding through it. I don't know
• 45:59
  Speaker 2: how you prepare for Black Monday, because stuff happens. Raheem
• 46:02
  Speaker 2: Morris getting turfed yesterday. We saw that at least with Sunday.
• 46:05
  Speaker 2: But let's get your general thoughts on the coaching moves today,
• 46:08
  Speaker 2: and I'll just I'll generalize it by this. Did any
• 46:11
  Speaker 2: of the moves, whether guys are being retained or fired surprised?
• 46:14
  Speaker 2: Mike Sandel?
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  Speaker 5: No, But I mean that doesn't mean that I predicted
• 46:19
  Speaker 5: any of them. All of them, you know, I think
• 46:20
  Speaker 5: that there's none of these were out of left field, like,
• 46:23
  Speaker 5: oh my gosh, I can't believe it. You know, we'd
• 46:25
  Speaker 5: either heard of it. I would say, you know, Atlanta
• 46:27
  Speaker 5: was probably the least talked about one, including by some
• 46:29
  Speaker 5: people in that building who I know who didn't necessarily
• 46:33
  Speaker 5: think it was going to happen. But I did think
• 46:35
  Speaker 5: the GM there was definitely on shaky ground, and so
• 46:38
  Speaker 5: sometimes when you're going to change that, you change everything
• 46:40
  Speaker 5: when you're frustrated as an owner, and I think that's
• 46:42
  Speaker 5: what they did.
• 46:44
  Speaker 2: The Yeah, I mean it's Raheem. I was surprised by
• 46:47
  Speaker 2: that too. I think we might have even talked about
• 46:48
  Speaker 2: him in the past a little bit too. Pete Carroll
• 46:51
  Speaker 2: on the Raiders, I don't know. I don't know what
• 46:53
  Speaker 2: coach could do anything with that particular roster, Mike, you know,
• 46:58
  Speaker 2: And I guess my only thing and I'd love to
• 47:00
  Speaker 2: get your thoughts on now we can kind of put
• 47:01
  Speaker 2: a bow on Pete with the Raiders. I guess my
• 47:04
  Speaker 2: only thing with Pete is when I looked out there
• 47:06
  Speaker 2: and I saw like a cornerback that was like a
• 47:09
  Speaker 2: practice squad guy here the last name, the hyphen guy
• 47:12
  Speaker 2: with the blue I saw him Jamal Adams. You bring
• 47:15
  Speaker 2: Tyler Lockett in Geno Smith. I wonder if at times
• 47:19
  Speaker 2: Pete is a little too loyal to some guys that
• 47:20
  Speaker 2: maybe are pastor prime. But those were just but those
• 47:23
  Speaker 2: guys are just bit players. I mean, really we're looking
• 47:24
  Speaker 2: at it. I don't know. I just I'm not sure
• 47:26
  Speaker 2: who could have done anything with what they had going
• 47:28
  Speaker 2: on there.
• 47:29
  Speaker 5: It's hard for someone like Pete Carroll to come in
• 47:32
  Speaker 5: and not just have it be all in and with
• 47:35
  Speaker 5: all the things he wants to do.
• 47:36
  Speaker 2: That's how he had it a lot.
• 47:38
  Speaker 5: Of the time in Seattle, and by the end they
• 47:40
  Speaker 5: didn't want to keep doing it. That way, and I
• 47:41
  Speaker 5: think the Raiders at this stage of Pete's career, you know,
• 47:45
  Speaker 5: there's other people there who kind of if it didn't work,
• 47:47
  Speaker 5: I think they want to do their own things. So
• 47:49
  Speaker 5: with Pete, you're either doing all it tell either all
• 47:52
  Speaker 5: or nothing, probably right, there's not a little bit in between.
• 47:54
  Speaker 5: And this year was weird because I feel like they
• 47:56
  Speaker 5: were in between. With the staff, it was kind of
• 47:58
  Speaker 5: like it wasn't.
• 47:59
  Speaker 2: Really this he would do. Is that good? Is it bad?
• 48:02
  Speaker 5: It didn't seem to really fit that well. He obviously
• 48:04
  Speaker 5: fired two of the three coordinators during the season, so
• 48:08
  Speaker 5: you know, just probably not a great setup for success,
• 48:12
  Speaker 5: and no one else has really won there lately either.
• 48:14
  Speaker 5: I do think they have potential for the future. Yeah,
• 48:17
  Speaker 5: I think John spy Tech's good, has a good reputation.
• 48:19
  Speaker 5: I do think that having Tom Brady involved is probably
• 48:21
  Speaker 5: better than not, just when you consider Mark Davis as
• 48:24
  Speaker 5: the owner. So we'll see they've turned through a lot there.
• 48:27
  Speaker 5: It's not really a huge indictment of Pete. It's a
• 48:30
  Speaker 5: place where no one's truly won.
• 48:31
  Speaker 2: Jonathan Gannon gets let go by Arizona. Thankfully Arizona at
• 48:34
  Speaker 2: least there was one team in the NFC West that
• 48:36
  Speaker 2: wasn't great this year with the double digit wins, and
• 48:40
  Speaker 2: that would be Arizona. I'll go with that too, because
• 48:43
  Speaker 2: I think the last, yeah, last game I actually covered
• 48:46
  Speaker 2: on the road was his first year or three years ago,
• 48:48
  Speaker 2: right don in Arizona. I remember this thinking they play
• 48:51
  Speaker 2: hard for him, you know, like kind of where they
• 48:53
  Speaker 2: were trending, and I think we all kind of thought, Okay,
• 48:55
  Speaker 2: this thing could get going here in a couple of years.
• 48:57
  Speaker 2: Are always kind of a trendy pick at the start
• 48:59
  Speaker 2: of the season. But there's the Kyle Kyler Murray factor.
• 49:02
  Speaker 2: How much is the head coach handcuff there by what
• 49:05
  Speaker 2: they've paid that quarterback a few years ago.
• 49:08
  Speaker 5: Well, it just depends if they bring him back. I
• 49:10
  Speaker 5: can't imagine that he's going to be the starting quarterback
• 49:12
  Speaker 5: next year. They were allowed to, I think, kind of
• 49:15
  Speaker 5: shut him down and you know, played Jacoby Brissette, which
• 49:20
  Speaker 5: is not the sort of thing that you do if
• 49:22
  Speaker 5: you think Kyler Murray is going to be the future
• 49:24
  Speaker 5: of the team. So I suppose it's possible that their
• 49:27
  Speaker 5: next coach could love Kyler Murray and want to, you know,
• 49:30
  Speaker 5: want to go with him. But this is a team
• 49:33
  Speaker 5: that should be picking pretty high in the draft, and
• 49:35
  Speaker 5: and you know, it feels to me like they were
• 49:38
  Speaker 5: starting to move on from Kyler Murray.
• 49:40
  Speaker 2: It just does it not show emo too, Mike. It's
• 49:42
  Speaker 2: it's we've seen this over the years. If you make
• 49:45
  Speaker 2: a mistake on a contract, like one too many contracts
• 49:48
  Speaker 2: to a quarterback or one too many contracts to whoever
• 49:51
  Speaker 2: in a hard cap league, that it can be it
• 49:54
  Speaker 2: can just be a death sentence for a franchise for
• 49:56
  Speaker 2: a couple of years.
• 49:58
  Speaker 5: I think if you're willing to spend CA you can
• 50:00
  Speaker 5: always manipulate the cap. The problem is with somebody like
• 50:04
  Speaker 5: Kyler Murray, when it's a quarterback, it's just that person
• 50:07
  Speaker 5: is where you like it or not, kind of the
• 50:09
  Speaker 5: face of your organization. So when you get locked into
• 50:11
  Speaker 5: a big deal, you know you're upside down in a
• 50:13
  Speaker 5: in a in a contract at that position, it is
• 50:17
  Speaker 5: a little bit harder to move on. Now we see
• 50:19
  Speaker 5: teams do it. Denver did it. There's still have thirty
• 50:21
  Speaker 5: million on their cap this year for Russell Wilson. But
• 50:25
  Speaker 5: I think Miami, you know, has maybe been hamstrung. We'll
• 50:28
  Speaker 5: see what they do with two A tongue of below
• 50:31
  Speaker 5: who has benched. He could be out and that could
• 50:33
  Speaker 5: be a costly one. And Kyler Murray's gonna be another
• 50:36
  Speaker 5: one too. These guys have fully guaranteed money in the future,
• 50:39
  Speaker 5: and that makes it harder to trade them unless you're
• 50:42
  Speaker 5: willing to eat that money yourself.
• 50:45
  Speaker 2: Mike Sander joining us from The Athletic. You wrote about
• 50:47
  Speaker 2: it today. I'm still try I'm still scratching my head.
• 50:49
  Speaker 2: I didn't realize until you know, I saw it in
• 50:51
  Speaker 2: your story and then I see some of the people
• 50:52
  Speaker 2: talking about it. How can a team go an entire Sorry, Jess,
• 50:56
  Speaker 2: I know it's your team. How can a team go
• 50:58
  Speaker 2: an entire year? Jet? Just Ess Jets without one interception?
• 51:02
  Speaker 2: Like that's like like as mentioned, balls hit TJ. Watt
• 51:07
  Speaker 2: got an interception yesterday by accident and.
• 51:09
  Speaker 6: By accident idea, no idea.
• 51:13
  Speaker 5: It just happened. They just happened. I mean, how many
• 51:15
  Speaker 5: times it hits the guys someone's helmet and flies up
• 51:18
  Speaker 5: in the air. It just it's gonna happen. You play
• 51:20
  Speaker 5: two twice fifty pass They had five hundred and fifteen
• 51:23
  Speaker 5: passes against them this year. The opposing quarterbacks had thirty
• 51:26
  Speaker 5: six touchdowns and no interceptions. I mean that is impossible.
• 51:32
  Speaker 6: Everyone seems harder to do than get interceptions to absolutely
• 51:36
  Speaker 6: have none.
• 51:36
  Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, I mean I really don't want to rewatch
• 51:41
  Speaker 5: all their defensive places to see if they missed one.
• 51:43
  Speaker 5: But you know that would be torture in its own
• 51:45
  Speaker 5: way with how bad they were. But I mean it's like,
• 51:47
  Speaker 5: is this a typo or something?
• 51:49
  Speaker 2: There had to be a dB that dropped the ball
• 51:50
  Speaker 2: at some point, right, Like there had it had to
• 51:53
  Speaker 2: have happened where. It's like, and then where, and then
• 51:55
  Speaker 2: the compsators are like, oh, that's why he's a defensive
• 51:57
  Speaker 2: back and not a wide receiver because the hand has
• 51:59
  Speaker 2: been one.
• 52:00
  Speaker 5: You know, I try to find dropped interception.
• 52:02
  Speaker 2: I got to find that, Yeah, because there had to
• 52:04
  Speaker 2: be because you know the whole stat about turnover worthy plays, right,
• 52:07
  Speaker 2: I mean, there had to be a time against them.
• 52:09
  Speaker 2: But it just for it to never happen, it just
• 52:11
  Speaker 2: might just kind of tell you who exactly the Jets
• 52:14
  Speaker 2: are when it's all said and done. The Panthers to
• 52:17
  Speaker 2: the playoffs, This is a great line. Mike's Mike's full menu,
• 52:22
  Speaker 2: Panthers to Playoffs? Is that good? I don't know, Mike,
• 52:24
  Speaker 2: is it.
• 52:26
  Speaker 5: I don't think it's I mean, sometimes it's good, but like, okay, Pete,
• 52:29
  Speaker 5: you know, Pete Carroll already on in his tenure when
• 52:31
  Speaker 5: they were seven and nine, didn't it been a great
• 52:33
  Speaker 5: thing because they had the Beastquake thing. They were starting
• 52:36
  Speaker 5: something special, and you know, they didn't think they were
• 52:39
  Speaker 5: actually that good, right, So they went out and did
• 52:42
  Speaker 5: a whole bunch of stuff after that, and that was
• 52:44
  Speaker 5: how the franchise launched. But I think sometimes you can,
• 52:48
  Speaker 5: you know, make the playoffs and you know, or you know,
• 52:52
  Speaker 5: win a division. Don't mistake that for being a good
• 52:55
  Speaker 5: team if you're not one. I just don't think they're
• 52:56
  Speaker 5: a very good team, you know. I think that they
• 52:59
  Speaker 5: have a quarterback who doesn't scare you, and so they're
• 53:02
  Speaker 5: going to be very interesting, especially if they were to
• 53:05
  Speaker 5: win a playoff game and they've eaten the Rams before
• 53:07
  Speaker 5: this year. I don't think they're going to win, but
• 53:09
  Speaker 5: you never know, the Rams have been not the same
• 53:12
  Speaker 5: in the last few weeks, so if that were to happen,
• 53:15
  Speaker 5: you could come away from this thinking, hey, this is
• 53:18
  Speaker 5: a step. And I just feel like this season was
• 53:20
  Speaker 5: not a step for them, because you really have to
• 53:22
  Speaker 5: measure them the second half of last year and they
• 53:24
  Speaker 5: were pretty good on offense and that really regressed this season.
• 53:28
  Speaker 5: And to me that was kind of the most important
• 53:31
  Speaker 5: thing was, Hey, what do you got going with this
• 53:32
  Speaker 5: quarterback in this offense? And I'm just not so sure
• 53:35
  Speaker 5: that's positive.
• 53:35
  Speaker 2: Yeah, eight and nine and they're a four seed hosting
• 53:38
  Speaker 2: a playoff game. I'm happy for Dave Knalis, one of
• 53:40
  Speaker 2: the good guys in the NFL, like really good guy
• 53:43
  Speaker 2: and happy for him. But yeah, eight and nine and
• 53:46
  Speaker 2: you're in the playoffs. All three teams in both conferences
• 53:49
  Speaker 2: that are wildcard teams La San Francisco, Green Bay, Houston, Buffalo,
• 53:52
  Speaker 2: and the Chargers, all three teams have better records than
• 53:57
  Speaker 2: the four seed in in fact, in the the case
• 54:00
  Speaker 2: of h you know, there's a couple of teams that
• 54:01
  Speaker 2: the RAM in San Francisco I better recresent. But is
• 54:05
  Speaker 2: there any better than the four seed that does have
• 54:07
  Speaker 2: a playoff game? Is my point, Mike. Is there ever
• 54:09
  Speaker 2: any appetite when you talk to executives around the league
• 54:11
  Speaker 2: about not just awarding a home game to a division champion?
• 54:15
  Speaker 5: There kind of only is when you your team gets
• 54:17
  Speaker 5: screwed by it. I think it's one of those where like, hey,
• 54:19
  Speaker 5: Detroit was all talking about it theater year, when you know,
• 54:22
  Speaker 5: when when the NFC North had all those top teams.
• 54:25
  Speaker 5: I think it's kind of charming the way that it is.
• 54:27
  Speaker 5: I think, look, you want it to be equitable, but
• 54:32
  Speaker 5: you but I do think there's you know, you know there.
• 54:34
  Speaker 5: You do want the division to mean something, and the
• 54:36
  Speaker 5: fact is they have eight divisions with only four teams,
• 54:39
  Speaker 5: so it's harder to make the division be meaningful. I
• 54:41
  Speaker 5: guess I'm okay with that. And then I think it's
• 54:44
  Speaker 5: kind of cool that, hey, if the if the if
• 54:47
  Speaker 5: the Panthers were going on the road to play a
• 54:49
  Speaker 5: better team in the playoffs, like it might even be
• 54:52
  Speaker 5: worth watching like at home. I feel like, okay, this
• 54:55
  Speaker 5: is probably good for the competitiveness of the game. And
• 54:57
  Speaker 5: so from a fan standpoint, watch in the game standpoint,
• 55:01
  Speaker 5: I like it how it is. I totally get it.
• 55:03
  Speaker 5: If I was a team that had to go on
• 55:05
  Speaker 5: the road and play the Panthers, I'd be like, wait
• 55:07
  Speaker 5: a minute, we're way better than them. But guess what
• 55:09
  Speaker 5: you lost to the Panthers this year? Rams anyway, so
• 55:12
  Speaker 5: you know, go beat them.
• 55:13
  Speaker 2: It's kind of like the group of five teams having
• 55:15
  Speaker 2: to travel to Eugene or wherever right to college ship politic.
• 55:18
  Speaker 2: If Oregon not a conference champion, would have had to
• 55:21
  Speaker 2: go to JMU, maybe different. Maybe. I mean I think
• 55:24
  Speaker 2: they still win, probably going away, but at least maybe
• 55:27
  Speaker 2: it's competitive, right, And I know they put up points,
• 55:29
  Speaker 2: but it would have been a little more competitive. Let's
• 55:31
  Speaker 2: just talk about a couple of matchups if we can,
• 55:33
  Speaker 2: because I'm just I'm fascinated by this weekend. For Seahawk fans,
• 55:36
  Speaker 2: it's awesome. You can sit back. I mentioned this to
• 55:38
  Speaker 2: Hugh Miller earlier, and he's right. He goes, Yeah, there's
• 55:41
  Speaker 2: still some consternation because there's probably teams you don't want
• 55:43
  Speaker 2: to see in that divisional round. But let me just
• 55:46
  Speaker 2: start with the two to seven matchup the Bears and
• 55:48
  Speaker 2: the Packers. Chicago and the end didn't need to win
• 55:54
  Speaker 2: yesterday to get the two seed, but they probably should,
• 55:56
  Speaker 2: and they tried, and they wanted to win. They didn't
• 55:58
  Speaker 2: know what was going on in Philadelphia because that was
• 56:00
  Speaker 2: going simultaneously. They didn't look great against the fired up
• 56:04
  Speaker 2: Lions team. Here come the Packers that have been all
• 56:06
  Speaker 2: over the place this season. What does Mike Sandos see
• 56:09
  Speaker 2: in that matchup.
• 56:10
  Speaker 5: I kind of like the Bears, you know, and I
• 56:12
  Speaker 5: know in my column today, I think I quoted somebody
• 56:13
  Speaker 5: who you know, saw it the other way, and I
• 56:15
  Speaker 5: get it. You know, the Packers should beat them, But
• 56:19
  Speaker 5: I don't know. I like what the Bears have going.
• 56:21
  Speaker 5: I don't think they're a great team. But you know,
• 56:22
  Speaker 5: Jordan Love for the Packers hasn't played in a couple
• 56:25
  Speaker 5: of weeks. They haven't won a game in a month.
• 56:27
  Speaker 5: For the Packers, they don't have Micah Parsons, which is
• 56:30
  Speaker 5: a big difference maker player who did play. I believe
• 56:33
  Speaker 5: the last time they played the Bears, so a lot
• 56:35
  Speaker 5: of familiarity in the division. The Bears just lost and
• 56:38
  Speaker 5: got swept by Detroit. But you know, I think that
• 56:41
  Speaker 5: I think this is one where Chicago. You know, they're
• 56:46
  Speaker 5: a little weird because they won the division while having
• 56:48
  Speaker 5: a losing record in the division two and four. But
• 56:50
  Speaker 5: they did beat Green Bay, I believe once and I
• 56:54
  Speaker 5: kind of lean that way.
• 56:55
  Speaker 2: The executive said quote, the Packers won't be intimidated going
• 56:59
  Speaker 2: to Chicago. I think Green Bay closes them out, which
• 57:01
  Speaker 2: puts them in Seattle the next week, which I think
• 57:04
  Speaker 2: the Seahawks will be okay with, although they probably rather
• 57:06
  Speaker 2: see the Panthers. That can that happen? Yeah, Panthers, I
• 57:09
  Speaker 2: guess that could happen. All right, let's move you ask,
• 57:12
  Speaker 2: Let's sock Rams Panthers. You just said it, you wrote
• 57:13
  Speaker 2: about today. The Rams aren't the same team as they've
• 57:15
  Speaker 2: been for a while. What's going on there.
• 57:18
  Speaker 5: I think there's a psychological impact to losing the way
• 57:20
  Speaker 5: they did, and I just think it's unavoidable sometimes when
• 57:23
  Speaker 5: you can't even explain how that happened. Then it was
• 57:25
  Speaker 5: a big meaningful game, you know where you know whatever,
• 57:29
  Speaker 5: it was flukey or whatever. They really got rocked losing
• 57:32
  Speaker 5: at Seattle and then came out and were down twenty
• 57:34
  Speaker 5: one nothing the next week to the Falcons. You know,
• 57:37
  Speaker 5: they were trailing, I believe in the second half against Arizona,
• 57:40
  Speaker 5: So you know, I think they're dangerous. I think they
• 57:44
  Speaker 5: can still accomplish their goals, but they've really squandered a
• 57:47
  Speaker 5: lot late in the year, from being maybe best team
• 57:49
  Speaker 5: in football chance the number one seed, to suddenly being
• 57:52
  Speaker 5: on the road as a five seed with a lot
• 57:55
  Speaker 5: tougher path to the super Bowl. I don't know. I mean,
• 58:00
  Speaker 5: it's all there for him, but I feel like this
• 58:01
  Speaker 5: could be one of those kind of a little bit
• 58:03
  Speaker 5: of a reckoning type seasons for them, not that there's
• 58:07
  Speaker 5: going to be huge changes, but a painful season. If
• 58:11
  Speaker 5: it ends up continuing to go the way that's going.
• 58:14
  Speaker 2: I think potentially maybe one of the best games of
• 58:17
  Speaker 2: the weekend. I mean, there's always upsets for things that
• 58:20
  Speaker 2: happened forty nine Ers and Eagles. Let's not forget forty
• 58:23
  Speaker 2: to twenty two last year, the Eagles taking apart the
• 58:25
  Speaker 2: Kansas City Chiefs winning the Super Bowl. But they haven't
• 58:28
  Speaker 2: looked the same mic this year. The Eagles and obviously
• 58:30
  Speaker 2: the forty nine Ers are banged up team. It's a
• 58:32
  Speaker 2: really intriguing matchup on Sunday.
• 58:34
  Speaker 5: It is because the offense of the Eagles has been
• 58:37
  Speaker 5: you know, hit and miss with more miss, and now
• 58:39
  Speaker 5: they're playing a fort ninited defense.
• 58:41
  Speaker 2: It's not very good.
• 58:42
  Speaker 5: So if the Eagles can't get their offense going this week,
• 58:45
  Speaker 5: I think it's really you know, a bad sign for
• 58:48
  Speaker 5: them in the playoffs and as far as getting back
• 58:50
  Speaker 5: to the Super Bowl, all those sorts of things. Love
• 58:52
  Speaker 5: the matchup between Kyle Shanahan and Dick Fangio. Yeah, I
• 58:55
  Speaker 5: think that the forty nine offense, you know, obviously was
• 58:59
  Speaker 5: completely shut down by Seattle. I think the Eagles are
• 59:02
  Speaker 5: good on defense, but they're not as good as Seattle there,
• 59:04
  Speaker 5: I don't think. So, you know, is this a bounce
• 59:06
  Speaker 5: back game for Brock Purdy and those guys. Do they
• 59:08
  Speaker 5: put some points on the board against Philly and put
• 59:11
  Speaker 5: some pressure on Philly to score.
• 59:13
  Speaker 1: We'll see.
• 59:13
  Speaker 5: I think it's a little bit of a house money
• 59:15
  Speaker 5: feel for Philly or for the forty nine ers with
• 59:17
  Speaker 5: a lot of pressure on Philly.
• 59:19
  Speaker 2: Is the AFC as wide open as it's ever been?
• 59:23
  Speaker 5: Well, ever's a long time, but I think it is. Yeah,
• 59:27
  Speaker 5: ever's a long time. I haven't looked at the whole
• 59:29
  Speaker 5: history of it, but I think in this era of
• 59:31
  Speaker 5: having seven seeds on each side, yes, certainly, it'd be
• 59:37
  Speaker 5: hard to find years where in the top three seeds
• 59:40
  Speaker 5: you're not going to have a Tom Brady or a
• 59:43
  Speaker 5: Patrick Mahomes, or even a Josh Allen or Joe Burrow
• 59:47
  Speaker 5: between you know. I think twenty twenty two, all three
• 59:50
  Speaker 5: of those guys, Burrow, Mahomes and Allen were the top
• 59:52
  Speaker 5: three seeds. So I do think that that makes it
• 59:55
  Speaker 5: more inviting for some of these other teams. You're playing
• 59:58
  Speaker 5: somebody who, in a lot of cases hasn't really done
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 5: anything in the postseason. Right, there's a feeling I think
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 5: for a lot of these teams that why not US.
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 5: I think it sets up well for Seattle. On the
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 5: other side, if they were able to get to the
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 5: Super Bowl, I think they would have their tough work
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 5: done before they got there.
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think whoever comes to the NFC is going
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 2: to have to They're gonna They're gonna go through a gauntlet.
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 2: Whatever comes out of the NFC is a massive gauntlet,
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 2: and we'll see a great time of the year. The
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 2: Pick six column is up at the Athletic, Theathletic dot Com.
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 2: Mike will talk to you next week after wild Card weekend.
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 2: My friend, thank you, thank you. That is Mike Sander,
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 2: the Great Mike Sandal from The Athletic, Theathletic dot Com
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 2: and good to hear his his take on things. Yeah,
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 2: the coaching situation around the league. Every year there's the
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 2: Black Monday, and then every year I kind of look
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 2: at the guys that get turfed, and that's why I
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 2: was kind of bringing up Pete and Jonathan Gannon and others, like,
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 2: at some point as a coach, you have no chance,
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 2: like just don't have a chance. You don't have an
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 2: opportunity because your personnel isn't good enough or injured. Yeah,
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 2: I mean that's like if Andy Andy Reid doesn't get
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 2: the playoffs, well, why well, Mahomes didn't get injured until
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 2: the end of the year. And I think it was
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 2: the game they actually were officially eliminated, and so it
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 2: didn't matter like it was done. They had other injuries,
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 2: They had offensive line injuries. The defense isn't what they
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 2: used to have. They got some problems there, wide receivers
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 2: positions bad, they don't have a running back. And I
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 2: look at the Chiefs and I think to myself, this
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 2: is exactly now. They had a longer sustained run than
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 2: the Seahawks did under Peak Carroll in those mid two thousands.
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 2: But it's also what happens when you are consistently drafting low. Yeah,
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 2: you don't have these picks that are up higher, and
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 2: you don't have like when you're picking in the late
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 2: twenties and thirties in the first round and then in
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 2: the late fifties and sixties in the second round, etc.
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 2: It catches up to you. It just does you know,
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 2: you look at some of the damage that Schneider did.
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 2: I mean, the last two drafts were apps absolutely remarkable
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 2: and a lot of people have been talking about it
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 2: today and it's worth revisiting. I mean that what he
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 2: was able to do in the last three drafts, in
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 2: the first two rounds, and just think about this. Gray's Abel,
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 2: Nicky Men, worry Byron Murphy, Devin Wetherspoon, Jackson Smith and Jigba,
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 2: Derek Hall, Zach Charbonay, Charles Cross, Boy and Mafe ken Walker.
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 2: I think the only guy in there that hasn't made
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 2: a massive impact this year is Boy and Mafey. Everybody
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 2: else you can point to and say, big game, big play,
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 2: what have you right? And but just even the last
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 2: two drafts, Zabel, Emon, Worri your first two rounds, Murphy
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 2: and Witherspoon, let's go and JSN Yeah that's all right,
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 2: pretty damn good, like pretty damn good. But you're also
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 2: picking a little higher, like you're not picking thirty thirty one.
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 2: That's worse that can say.
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 6: And they also had a couple of trade dependent drafts.
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 6: You know, they had two first round picks.
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 2: The other thing that comes into play with some of
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 2: these teams too, And this is the hard thing. This
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 2: is why, God, you feel so good about where this
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 2: organization is right now, is that you don't want to
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 2: be really crummy when the draft isn't very good. And
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 2: if you listen to rang this year, it's not a
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 2: great draft. It's not a great draft. That's that therein
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 2: lies the rub that's the worst. It's the worst possible thing.
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 2: It's like if the Kraken don't make the playoffs at
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 2: some point and it'll be the year that they get
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 2: like a top two pick, and there isn't a generational player.
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 7: Which is like when they had the two top two
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 7: picks or top top five picks that they've had veneers.
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 2: There's no generational guy in there. No Logan Cooley though
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 2: maybe but yeah, yeah, but but for the most like
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 2: you didn't have Gavin McKenna, you didn't have connorv Darden,
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 2: mac Layne Hudson, Matthew Shaeffer. Yeah, like you're the Jets,
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 2: you're hating it. Sales is such a good situation the
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 2: next few years. Getting Cross resigned is huge. God, it's
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 2: just I mean, it's just there the job Schneider has done.
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 2: And there were a lot of people, there's a lot
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 2: of people in this town that three years ago, two
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 2: years ago, two years ago, right now, when they made
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 2: the decision to get rid of Pete Carroll and they
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 2: kept John Schneider, there were a lot of people that
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 2: were really critical of that. Not just saying that peace
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 2: should have gone. A lot of people wanted John Schneider
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 2: to go. There's a lot of people in this town
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 2: that did, and they would point and listen, he missed
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 2: on a lot of drafts, but look at where those
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 2: guys were picked. Look at where those guys were picked.
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 2: Like he missed, but given the opportunity to hit the
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 2: reset button, he has hammered it. Absolutely nailed at the
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 2: last three years. Well, and not just drafts, like you
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 2: can look at the free agent and the trades as well. Hey,
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 2: DeMarcus Lawrence, would he have looked good in a Cowboys
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 2: uniform this year? I think so? They kicked his ass
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 2: to the curb, Like, well, we interviewed him over there
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 2: when he got signed, or Jess, we were over there
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 2: for that and we did an interview he came in
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 2: a little the KJR closet there and and I remember
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 2: he walked in and the guy looked like he was
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 2: twenty three years old. He was just yoked and cut.
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 3: And I'm like, I was like, how long have you
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 3: been playing?
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 2: Well, we asked him. He said like, like the Cowboys
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 2: just don't think you can play anymore. He's like, no,
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 2: they don't, like Holy smokes man, like great, Josh Jones.
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 2: Hugh said it, what an incredible pickup, like incredible under
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 2: the radar. No one in the league's talking about that.
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 2: I get it. He's a backup tackle, but we're pretty
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 2: excited when they brought George Fampack last year. He's said, Okay,
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 2: the Abbes had some health issues. Cross was hurt the
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 2: year before. Blah blah blah bah. That never played like
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 2: played like three snaps or whatever all year. Josh Jones
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 2: has been huge, Yeah for this team. Leonard Williams trade,
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 2: Letter Williams trade, Ernest Jones trade. I'm gonna go revisit
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 2: that Leonard Williams trade. I know people on this radio
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 2: station summer here somewhere no longer here, hated that trade,
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 2: really hated that trade because it was kind of a
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 2: I don't want to say it's an all in trade,
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 2: but it was, Hey, we're going to the playoffs because
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 2: they got rid of some equity and they didn't go
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 2: to the playoffs that year. Right, Yes, Letter Williams one
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 2: of the best defensive tackles in the league. Rightly Schneider
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 2: knows what hell he's doing, Like, he just knows what
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 2: he is doing.
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 3: And look at the impact.
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 2: She Hita, what a late edition. We were all kind
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 2: of like, let's go back a month on this station
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 2: and around town. Gave up way too much for Rashid Shiheat. Okay,
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 2: Tory Horn is not playing the rest of the year. Also,
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 2: rams game do you win without Rashid Shiheat? No? House one?
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 2: Didn't he I'm miss sad? Did he House One?
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  Speaker 8: Yeah?
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 2: I think so? Okay, what a game for you? What
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 2: a game got you? Helped you get to a top seed? Yeah?
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 2: With a punt return? Okay. Yeah, he won't get Executive
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 2: of the Year because he's been on the job too long.
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 2: Absolutely should, but that's the problem. Pete never got Coach
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 2: of the Year. Right, this guy's not gonna get executive
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 2: he's been on the job too long. They'll give it
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 2: to the dude in Jacksonville or whoever hell's running variable
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  Speaker 2: show in New England or whatever it's going to be.
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 2: It will be Johnny come Lately, won't be him, won't
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 2: be him? All right? It should be one hundred percent,
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  Speaker 2: I have four nine four five one. That's the Still
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  Speaker 2: is it still unrestricted free agent? We're still an unrestricted
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 2: free agent? Oh yeah, it's a long time period to
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  Speaker 2: be in an understrict Does the text line have like
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  Speaker 2: a no trade clause going on?
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  Speaker 6: I think we might have had an A C L
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  Speaker 2: Okay, that makes sense? Yeah, two o six. Did Don
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 2: John Schnyder missing a lot of this old picture? Was it? Pete?
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 2: Will never know? But I wonder Escridge, McDowell, call Year, Penny,
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 2: et cetera. All really Schnyder, guys, Yeah, I mean that's
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 2: the thing that we don't know. I don't know.
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 3: I feel so hard with McDowell, like you can't.
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 2: Yeah, the McDowell think, okay, wrapping himself around a tree
• 1:07:56
  Speaker 2: on an SUV or a eighty rather bad, not the best.
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 2: But he also he wasn't a good decision making before that.
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 2: They took a flyer on him. You know. Rashaan Penny
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 2: was interesting because everyone loved the pick. Everyone loved the
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 2: pick when it happened and when he was healthy. Yet
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 2: he was really good. There was that stretch what three
• 1:08:18
  Speaker 2: or four years ago when he had like almost a
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 2: thousand yards in the final four weeks of the year. Ye,
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 2: like he was explosive. Never could it just and I
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 2: hate saying could stay healthy because no guy tries to
• 1:08:30
  Speaker 2: get hurt. If you look what happened his injuries, broken ankle,
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 2: guy rolls up on him, acl. I mean this stuff
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 2: happened a bunch of flicks. Yeah, yeah, but yeah, I
• 1:08:39
  Speaker 2: think you know d s Gridge horrible pick, yeah, horrible pick.
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 2: But that was that helped me out. That was the
• 1:08:45
  Speaker 2: draft that they only picked three guys, right, I think
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 2: so right? He stowed foresight him and yeah or no, no,
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 2: twenty twenty twenty twenty one the twenty yeah, twenty twenty
• 1:08:54
  Speaker 2: one draft, because twenty twenty one draft was when they
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 2: just kind of mailed it in. They didn't like anything
• 1:08:59
  Speaker 2: because of the COVID year. Some teams didn't even play
• 1:09:01
  Speaker 2: more than three games one who was the other? Pick
• 1:09:04
  Speaker 2: him Forsyth And who I'm looking wasn't Trey Brown? Was
• 1:09:10
  Speaker 2: somebody else? Jordan Brooks. No Brooks this year before uh
• 1:09:17
  Speaker 2: d s g Trey Brown. It was Trey Brown. Yeah,
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 2: uh I was the one calling out Schneider. I was
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 2: wrong next and a couple of seconds later, I'm an idiot.
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 2: You know? For five well done? A lot of people
• 1:09:32
  Speaker 2: would not admit when they were wrong about something. Yeah,
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 2: I mean I listen, Pete hired John Snyder credit for that.
• 1:09:40
  Speaker 2: You'll never hear me rip into Pete Carroll. I think
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 2: I think Pete would be the guy that would take it.
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 2: And I think when you put Pete and John together,
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 2: the dynamic of those two guys together, I can see them, Hey,
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 2: let's take a flyer on this guy. Let's take a
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 2: run at this guy right like like you know, kind
• 1:09:59
  Speaker 2: of feeding on off of each other because they're both
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 2: you've got to have stones in those positions when you're
• 1:10:04
  Speaker 2: making draft picks. We'll talk about i mean home runs
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 2: with us on Monday or Wednesday, should say, we'll talk
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 2: to Mike about that whole process. Like you, there's I'm
• 1:10:11
  Speaker 2: sure there's a group think mentality that comes into play.
• 1:10:14
  Speaker 2: And if you're in that way and they they were
• 1:10:16
  Speaker 2: playing with house money for a few years and then
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 2: it kind of caught up to them, and you know,
• 1:10:21
  Speaker 2: in a way, you go. Grant says, NFC West is
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 2: a gauntlet. It is. Why doesn't the team in the
• 1:10:26
  Speaker 2: AFC North, AFC East, NFC South, NFC East go hard
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 2: after Shanahan, McVeigh or McDonald. Well, this isn't college football.
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 2: So if you're under contract to an NFL team, you
• 1:10:38
  Speaker 2: can't just up and go to another There's no buyout
• 1:10:41
  Speaker 2: like like Kaitlin de Bor going to Alabama, Lane Kiffin
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 2: going to LSU, whatever it might be. That doesn't work
• 1:10:48
  Speaker 2: in the NFL. That's also, guys, what is so blanked
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 2: up about college football is it, let's take the players
• 1:10:57
  Speaker 2: aside for a second. Let's just take the players and
• 1:10:59
  Speaker 2: move them aside, because they're not truly employees of the
• 1:11:02
  Speaker 2: university kind of are, but they're not. So let's just
• 1:11:05
  Speaker 2: take that away. If you're a coach, you're a state
• 1:11:08
  Speaker 2: employee under contract that other state employees don't have. It
• 1:11:12
  Speaker 2: gives you benefits, mostly financial, that other state employees don't have.
• 1:11:17
  Speaker 1: You have.
• 1:11:19
  Speaker 2: In every state, most every state, the highest paid state
• 1:11:23
  Speaker 2: employee is going to be the football coach. Maybe it
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 2: might be the basketball coach. If it's Connecticut. Right, the
• 1:11:28
  Speaker 2: two basketball coaches there, Hurly and Ariamar are the two
• 1:11:30
  Speaker 2: highest paid guys. Right, So you're the highest employee, but
• 1:11:35
  Speaker 2: you have the ability just to up and move any
• 1:11:37
  Speaker 2: time you want, with sure a buyout involved or whatever.
• 1:11:41
  Speaker 2: That's fine to get a buyout, but that buyout's nothing
• 1:11:43
  Speaker 2: because usually a school a booster, somebody will pay for it.
• 1:11:46
  Speaker 2: You can't do that in the NFL. You can't do
• 1:11:48
  Speaker 2: that in any other profession. If brand X came tomorrow
• 1:11:52
  Speaker 2: and Jessaman McIntyre is under contract and has a no compete,
• 1:11:56
  Speaker 2: they say, oh, we made a mistake. You did you
• 1:11:59
  Speaker 2: made a mistake. We want you back Purple. She ain't
• 1:12:02
  Speaker 2: gonna say okay, fine, go ahead, Okay, not a chance.
• 1:12:06
  Speaker 2: And that's how the NFL operates. Because it's a business.
• 1:12:09
  Speaker 2: They say, you know, hey, we want Mike McDonald Woody
• 1:12:11
  Speaker 2: Johnson in New York. Sure, I bet you do, or
• 1:12:14
  Speaker 2: you probably want You probably want Sean McVeigh. You could
• 1:12:17
  Speaker 2: probably maybe you want to offer them more money. It
• 1:12:20
  Speaker 2: doesn't work that way. Doesn't worked that way under contract
• 1:12:23
  Speaker 2: and under contract.
• 1:12:25
  Speaker 6: That's why you know, when Greig Bell and I were
• 1:12:26
  Speaker 6: talking about Jimmy Rogers leaving, yeah, He's like, make make
• 1:12:30
  Speaker 6: the buyout twenty million, Like that's how you stop this.
• 1:12:33
  Speaker 3: I like that idea of doing that.
• 1:12:34
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Uh, Ian, get with Purple Sheet and use your
• 1:12:37
  Speaker 2: influence to give Anders a raise. Dude never sleeps. Two
• 1:12:40
  Speaker 2: things with that, very true. Two things with that, well, no,
• 1:12:45
  Speaker 2: I'll have no problem. I'll talk to I gotta talk
• 1:12:46
  Speaker 2: to Purple Sheet about something else anyway. But but I
• 1:12:50
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna just you're assuming I have influence. Yeah, that's
• 1:12:53
  Speaker 2: the one issue with that.
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  Speaker 6: Probably would have gotten himself a hefty raise if he
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  Speaker 6: had here.
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  Speaker 2: Number one love Ands, but I'd be taking care of
• 1:13:02
  Speaker 2: number one first. Understand. Do you know why I go
• 1:13:03
  Speaker 2: to bat for you all the time, absolutely, for the
• 1:13:06
  Speaker 2: good stuff and the bad stuff. Yes, And with our
• 1:13:09
  Speaker 2: guy it's not always good. It's not always good. Let's see. Uh,
• 1:13:15
  Speaker 2: let's see. I want to get to this one. A
• 1:13:18
  Speaker 2: ton of texting guys, thank you so much for all
• 1:13:19
  Speaker 2: the texts, and you got all that many texts. Oh,
• 1:13:21
  Speaker 2: here we go, two o six. This is a good one.
• 1:13:23
  Speaker 2: Why can't Seattle win awards Manager of the Year, Executive Year,
• 1:13:26
  Speaker 2: Coach of the Year, m VP, none of it? Why?
• 1:13:29
  Speaker 2: I don't know. I I thought of that the other
• 1:13:32
  Speaker 2: day because you know, like cal cal Rawley goes to
• 1:13:34
  Speaker 2: a ton of cracking games, like he's there. He's there
• 1:13:37
  Speaker 2: more often than he's not. Yeah, and it's always the
• 1:13:40
  Speaker 2: coolest thing. It's happened like four or five times this
• 1:13:42
  Speaker 2: year where they show him on the on the Twins
• 1:13:44
  Speaker 2: that the big screens and the chance of MVP get going.
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  Speaker 1: Yep.
• 1:13:49
  Speaker 2: Sometimes he'll chug a beer or whatever. But I mean,
• 1:13:51
  Speaker 2: he's the most Seattle guy, but the MVP. And I'm
• 1:13:53
  Speaker 2: thinking to myself, yeah, dude, that should have been the MVP.
• 1:13:57
  Speaker 2: I should have been the MVP in the American League
• 1:13:59
  Speaker 2: without even a hesitation, right exactly. But Seattle won't win
• 1:14:03
  Speaker 2: any like they're not gonna win an offensive MVP. They're
• 1:14:06
  Speaker 2: not gonna win it. I mean, Jasan's right there, but
• 1:14:08
  Speaker 2: it's going to a quarterback. I mean, okay, if they
• 1:14:09
  Speaker 2: don't win Defensive Rookie of the Year, I don't know
• 1:14:11
  Speaker 2: what Deeven Warri Yes, should yes, but they won't have
• 1:14:14
  Speaker 2: a Defensive Player of the Year. Probably not well because
• 1:14:17
  Speaker 2: they don't have a hammer guy with facts. They don't.
• 1:14:19
  Speaker 2: Let's me Miles Garrett. Well, I don't know who the
• 1:14:20
  Speaker 2: NFC would be. But yeah, I mean what I'm saying,
• 1:14:22
  Speaker 2: it's it's it's just some of the parts true book it.
• 1:14:29
  Speaker 2: Let's see it.
• 1:14:30
  Speaker 6: I mean, yeah, in his second year, this is what
• 1:14:34
  Speaker 6: he's doing.
• 1:14:35
  Speaker 2: I mean, let's see. I'm trying to see somebody texts
• 1:14:39
  Speaker 2: about the fantasy team. Can you see if that makes sense?
• 1:14:41
  Speaker 2: Read that one? Which one? Just root it to yourselves
• 1:14:43
  Speaker 2: and tell me. It's like from the six to one
• 1:14:44
  Speaker 2: to nine. I think somebody needs us to do him
• 1:14:46
  Speaker 2: a favor for their fantasy team or fantasy league. Oh
• 1:14:49
  Speaker 2: you see that one old on.
• 1:14:52
  Speaker 6: Yeah, we'll talk about it off here.
• 1:14:57
  Speaker 2: I think, Oh, now, listen it for that for the money,
• 1:15:02
  Speaker 2: if you want to donate that to the Mayor Fund
• 1:15:07
  Speaker 2: for No for our free charity. Okay, yes, I'm in
• 1:15:10
  Speaker 2: There're six one nine. You can talk to Jess off air.
• 1:15:12
  Speaker 2: Set that up. I think this person wants to name
• 1:15:15
  Speaker 2: it something that's actually we can say on the air.
• 1:15:18
  Speaker 2: We can but ripping on a guy in the league,
• 1:15:21
  Speaker 2: but saying it on the air for a donation, and
• 1:15:23
  Speaker 2: if you want to donate it and I'll just have
• 1:15:25
  Speaker 2: you probably just have you do it one of the
• 1:15:26
  Speaker 2: charities directly. You want to do that, we will name it.
• 1:15:30
  Speaker 2: It's a hell of an idea like that. Yeah. Yeah,
• 1:15:33
  Speaker 2: that's a hell of an idea of doing that. We
• 1:15:35
  Speaker 2: should do that.
• 1:15:35
  Speaker 3: For the month leading up to your tournament.
• 1:15:37
  Speaker 2: Actually, yeah, you're what this tournament, tournament's tomorrows. I'll never
• 1:15:48
  Speaker 2: not get appointed it.
• 1:15:49
  Speaker 3: That is a really really good idea.
• 1:15:50
  Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah a lot of people want
• 1:15:53
  Speaker 2: Jones to replace Bradford. I live with someone that wants
• 1:15:56
  Speaker 2: that too. He nose offensive line. We had three off
• 1:16:02
  Speaker 2: ex college offensive linemen in our house on Saturday watching
• 1:16:04
  Speaker 2: the game, and I swear I had to rewind it
• 1:16:06
  Speaker 2: like five times. Everything. What is he doing? They're like,
• 1:16:09
  Speaker 2: they're like, watch him here? What is he doing? Watching
• 1:16:13
  Speaker 2: with Hugh Millan? Except with strictly offensive line. Then I
• 1:16:16
  Speaker 2: don't think those guys watch anything but that, And I
• 1:16:18
  Speaker 2: don't think they watch anybody except for seventy five. That's
• 1:16:21
  Speaker 2: so funny. Actually know what they do every time? Grays
• 1:16:24
  Speaker 2: it what'chable here? Just like banging into each other. I
• 1:16:31
  Speaker 2: mean they love Zabel, But yeah, man, Bradford is a
• 1:16:36
  Speaker 2: little bit of a weekly Okay, somebody points us out
• 1:16:39
  Speaker 2: three six oh Shan alex Seawan Alexander was the MVP.
• 1:16:42
  Speaker 2: Cortes Kennedy was the Defensive Player of the Year. Y
• 1:16:43
  Speaker 2: Cortez was the Defensive Player of the Year forty years ago.
• 1:16:47
  Speaker 2: Sean Alexander was the MVP twenty years ago. It's been
• 1:16:51
  Speaker 2: a little while.
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  Speaker 9: Yeah, okay, we're good, right, Uh you know what we'll
• 1:17:01
  Speaker 9: do that you what can we give your email out mine?
• 1:17:05
  Speaker 2: Yeah?
• 1:17:06
  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, it's Richard Elphane. No, that's mine.
• 1:17:11
  Speaker 2: Somewhere, there's somewhere. There's a guy in Ballad laughing right
• 1:17:13
  Speaker 2: now with that joke because that was his favorite one.
• 1:17:15
  Speaker 2: That's fine, Dick faaneieartmedia dot com. Anyway, that joke does
• 1:17:23
  Speaker 2: never get old, doesn't.
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  Speaker 3: That's a good one.
• 1:17:25
  Speaker 2: Uh yeah, I like the idea you want to you
• 1:17:28
  Speaker 2: want to donate to our to the mayor charities for
• 1:17:31
  Speaker 2: like you have to do something for your fantasy league
• 1:17:33
  Speaker 2: or whatever. Yes, I did lose, by the way, so
• 1:17:35
  Speaker 2: there will be a show at the last Yeah no,
• 1:17:39
  Speaker 2: did you guys see uh Crosskey Merritt week seventeen, just
• 1:17:44
  Speaker 2: like the guy that also the guy alsoid three yards
• 1:17:46
  Speaker 2: yesterday like that same guy at forty points. Good times anyway? Uh,
• 1:17:51
  Speaker 2: I like that idea. You want to donate, we can
• 1:17:53
  Speaker 2: name the text line after you for a day or.
• 1:17:55
  Speaker 6: After that for a week, depending on the Eventually we'll
• 1:17:58
  Speaker 6: set a valuation to So Jeffrey King.
• 1:18:01
  Speaker 2: Get to get with Jess. You responded that text my email?
• 1:18:04
  Speaker 6: Yeah, you know what, I'm just gonna send it to him,
• 1:18:06
  Speaker 6: so I'm not giving it.
• 1:18:07
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I like poor Jeffrey King. He's going to be
• 1:18:10
  Speaker 2: on the text line now, is I like that idea?
• 1:18:12
  Speaker 2: If he wants to do that.
• 1:18:14
  Speaker 8: Okay, let's do this. We'll get softly next.
• 1:18:32
  Speaker 2: I need to read a tweet. You do what you
• 1:18:36
  Speaker 2: gotta do, man, Because it's not often that I agree
• 1:18:41
  Speaker 2: with my good friend David Maler on things.
• 1:18:44
  Speaker 7: You know you'd be better off agreeing more man. Well,
• 1:18:47
  Speaker 7: it's a way to go. I'm showing you the way.
• 1:18:48
  Speaker 7: I'm showing you the path. He don't want to take it.
• 1:18:51
  Speaker 7: That's not my sixteen hours ago. Am I in the
• 1:18:54
  Speaker 7: minority here? Or is it just ludicrous to have two
• 1:18:57
  Speaker 7: NFL teams fly to Australia to play a football game,
• 1:18:59
  Speaker 7: especially a big division matchup like the x Rams. Play
• 1:19:02
  Speaker 7: a preseason game there, You'll get just as big a crowd.
• 1:19:04
  Speaker 7: We'll market the NFL just the same.
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  Speaker 2: Within that.
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  Speaker 7: So that's the rumor they have to play the Rams
• 1:19:11
  Speaker 7: in Australia. I saw Greg Bell tweeted that out the
• 1:19:13
  Speaker 7: other night. Maybe it was last night.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know. The day is all blended over now.
• 1:19:16
  Speaker 2: It's not. You're not playing like some slappy like Jacksonville
• 1:19:19
  Speaker 2: or Tennessee. You're playing a division when both teams should
• 1:19:22
  Speaker 2: be at their best, which could decide the number one
• 1:19:25
  Speaker 2: seed in the NFC, which is a case at the
• 1:19:27
  Speaker 2: NFC West Championship, which was the case this year. We're
• 1:19:30
  Speaker 2: gonna fly year ass Australia across the world.
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  Speaker 7: Do Australia to play a football game in the middle
• 1:19:35
  Speaker 7: of the damn season. I don't know, man, It's it's
• 1:19:38
  Speaker 7: just to me, it doesn't make any sense. Whatever nine
• 1:19:41
  Speaker 7: pm in Sydney right now. I think an NFL football
• 1:19:43
  Speaker 7: game in Australia would be a major novelty. Whether it's
• 1:19:46
  Speaker 7: a regular season game or a preseason game. People would
• 1:19:49
  Speaker 7: show up, they would come and watch. I don't know,
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  Speaker 7: I mean to me, it just sounds ludicrous.
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  Speaker 2: I just think. I think, I think the whole I know,
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  Speaker 2: I think the whole. I think the whole overseas thing
• 1:19:58
  Speaker 2: is just like we just saw the final game of
• 1:20:02
  Speaker 2: the year, in the final playoff spot determined by a
• 1:20:05
  Speaker 2: field goal in an NFL stadium. Yes, every game in
• 1:20:08
  Speaker 2: this league matters, every game, every game. So you're flying
• 1:20:11
  Speaker 2: that's the longest trip you can possibly take to right.
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  Speaker 2: Did you fly down there? No, I've never been there.
• 1:20:15
  Speaker 7: Apparently you can fly direct on a charter to Sydney, okay,
• 1:20:19
  Speaker 7: if you have the proper plane and the proper equipment. Okay,
• 1:20:22
  Speaker 7: but commercial like us, we can't do that charter playing.
• 1:20:27
  Speaker 3: How far I've done it from LA direct.
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  Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying. You can't fly How far was
• 1:20:31
  Speaker 2: la How far was it?
• 1:20:32
  Speaker 3: Eighteen hours?
• 1:20:33
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you got to stop. You're putting NFL players on
• 1:20:36
  Speaker 2: a plane for eighteen hours.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, and then it's a major and it's a huge
• 1:20:40
  Speaker 7: game too. It's like, don't you want those two teams.
• 1:20:41
  Speaker 2: At their best for God's sake? Yeah? I don't know
• 1:20:44
  Speaker 2: what all right? Anyway, how are you? How's been going
• 1:20:46
  Speaker 2: on around here in the last couple of weeks? Where
• 1:20:48
  Speaker 2: have you been?
• 1:20:49
  Speaker 7: I've been on vacation, man, Come on, I mean she
• 1:20:51
  Speaker 7: doesn't take any vacation anymore.
• 1:20:52
  Speaker 2: So you know what vacation? You know what I needed
• 1:20:55
  Speaker 2: and I needed to drop what was it? The Pete
• 1:20:57
  Speaker 2: Carroll I've been with Hugh, I've been you know, around, around, around,
• 1:21:01
  Speaker 2: I'll tell you what. He's got plenty of time on
• 1:21:03
  Speaker 2: his hands now.
• 1:21:04
  Speaker 7: Man, Holy you know, I kind of feel bad for
• 1:21:06
  Speaker 7: old uncle Pete.
• 1:21:07
  Speaker 2: I do a little bit.
• 1:21:08
  Speaker 1: You know.
• 1:21:09
  Speaker 7: He's one of my favorites, say is he should be
• 1:21:10
  Speaker 7: one of all of our fish should be. His legacy
• 1:21:13
  Speaker 7: is rock solid here in Seattle, no question about that.
• 1:21:16
  Speaker 7: But my god, dude, out of all the jobs to take,
• 1:21:20
  Speaker 7: you know, and go down there with Vegas, and he
• 1:21:22
  Speaker 7: probably thought when he took the gig that he would
• 1:21:24
  Speaker 7: get a couple of years to turn things around, right,
• 1:21:27
  Speaker 7: That's why he You would brought in Geno Smith to
• 1:21:29
  Speaker 7: just kind of, you know, bridge the gap until they
• 1:21:31
  Speaker 7: go out and they draft Dante More Fernando Mendoza or whoever, which,
• 1:21:36
  Speaker 7: by the way, I don't think I would touch either
• 1:21:37
  Speaker 7: one of those guys at number one. There's no quarterback.
• 1:21:40
  Speaker 7: It's a terrible class for quarterbacks. But I kind of
• 1:21:42
  Speaker 7: feel bad for the guy.
• 1:21:43
  Speaker 2: But who knows. Man Dante Moore's better off coming back.
• 1:21:45
  Speaker 7: He is unless the Raiders can guarantee him the number
• 1:21:49
  Speaker 7: one pick in the draft. Did you see the report
• 1:21:51
  Speaker 7: that came out today that apparently people that are close
• 1:21:53
  Speaker 7: to him are saying, if you cannot guarantee yourself the
• 1:21:56
  Speaker 7: number one pick, then go back to Oregon. You know why,
• 1:21:59
  Speaker 7: because the Jets have the number two pick and nobody
• 1:22:01
  Speaker 7: wants to play for the Jets.
• 1:22:02
  Speaker 2: Well, and that's you just mentioned, Pete. There's two there's
• 1:22:05
  Speaker 2: two jobs. If you're a coach, I mean, you want
• 1:22:08
  Speaker 2: to be the head coach in the NFL's three two jobs.
• 1:22:10
  Speaker 2: We all get that, right, Those two jobs might be
• 1:22:13
  Speaker 2: the two exceptions. And again I don't think.
• 1:22:14
  Speaker 7: I don't think Pete Carroll would have taken the gig
• 1:22:17
  Speaker 7: unless he really felt like he was going to get
• 1:22:18
  Speaker 7: a chance.
• 1:22:19
  Speaker 2: You know, did you get this thing turned out about
• 1:22:21
  Speaker 2: the irony of that Pete came to Seattle? Why because
• 1:22:24
  Speaker 2: the guy was one and done. That's right, Jim Morra,
• 1:22:27
  Speaker 2: that was one and done.
• 1:22:28
  Speaker 6: And I said earlier, I was like somewhere Jim Moore
• 1:22:29
  Speaker 6: just giggled, Well, no offense to Pete or anything.
• 1:22:32
  Speaker 7: Jim Mora has made more money not coaching than he
• 1:22:35
  Speaker 7: has to coach, so he's got a pretty good deal.
• 1:22:37
  Speaker 7: And now he's obviously at Colorado State as their head
• 1:22:40
  Speaker 7: coach of the Rams down there.
• 1:22:41
  Speaker 2: But I don't know, man, I just think you.
• 1:22:43
  Speaker 7: Know, three of the last four guys we've had Carol
• 1:22:45
  Speaker 7: Holmgren McDonald, you know, unbelievable, man, going back to nineteen
• 1:22:49
  Speaker 7: ninety nine, we're talking twenty seven years now.
• 1:22:52
  Speaker 2: Has there been a better run.
• 1:22:54
  Speaker 7: And all of it coincides with Paul Allen buying the
• 1:22:56
  Speaker 7: football team from Ken Barring. And look at the amount
• 1:22:59
  Speaker 7: of division oles, the amount of playoff appearances, the amount.
• 1:23:02
  Speaker 2: Of Super Bowls.
• 1:23:03
  Speaker 7: Everything changed when Paul Allen bought that football team. And
• 1:23:07
  Speaker 7: you know, look, maybe Jody's running it in the same
• 1:23:10
  Speaker 7: was in the box. Yeah, but maybe she's running it
• 1:23:12
  Speaker 7: with the same approach that Paul Allen ran things back
• 1:23:15
  Speaker 7: in the day. And it's kind of scary to think
• 1:23:17
  Speaker 7: of somebody else eventually owning this football team, because that
• 1:23:21
  Speaker 7: day will eventually come.
• 1:23:22
  Speaker 2: I'm glad you brought that up because I think there's
• 1:23:23
  Speaker 2: a lot of folks like I can't wait. She needs
• 1:23:24
  Speaker 2: to sell it, get rid of it. All that suff
• 1:23:26
  Speaker 2: what and to me, based on what, like you know,
• 1:23:29
  Speaker 2: Bert's Burt and Jody's Jody and there they let people
• 1:23:33
  Speaker 2: that know what they're doing right. Chuck RL runs the
• 1:23:35
  Speaker 2: business side, John Shodder runs the football side. I think
• 1:23:38
  Speaker 2: things are okay. No, I think I like SAT.
• 1:23:41
  Speaker 7: As long as you got John Schneider in charge, the
• 1:23:43
  Speaker 7: Hawks are going to be just fine.
• 1:23:44
  Speaker 2: But yeah, man, his red so that was a class.
• 1:23:48
  Speaker 2: I saw him in the game going nuts. You see.
• 1:23:52
  Speaker 7: If they were smart, they just got Hi an endorsement
• 1:23:54
  Speaker 7: with like right card or something.
• 1:23:56
  Speaker 2: Man, And I'm on of locked up with a deodoran company.
• 1:23:59
  Speaker 2: We saw that. God, he was sweating lakes out there
• 1:24:01
  Speaker 2: during and they showed we showed him in the box
• 1:24:03
  Speaker 2: and do that. I go, oh my god. And Keith
• 1:24:05
  Speaker 2: for said my kid says and he goes, Yeah, that's
• 1:24:07
  Speaker 2: a guy that cares. Did you see that's the guy
• 1:24:09
  Speaker 2: he goes. He goes, that's a guy that cares right there,
• 1:24:11
  Speaker 2: And I'm like, yeah, just see his reaction when Drake
• 1:24:13
  Speaker 2: Thomas had to pick six. Yeah, he was unbelievable, Like
• 1:24:16
  Speaker 2: they won the damn title.
• 1:24:17
  Speaker 5: Man.
• 1:24:17
  Speaker 7: But yeah, he needs an endorsement with like a right
• 1:24:20
  Speaker 7: guard spray or something like that. Yeah's make it happen.
• 1:24:22
  Speaker 7: All right, what do you got coming up today? It
• 1:24:24
  Speaker 7: was a big show. Well, we're gonna talk a lot
• 1:24:25
  Speaker 7: about what we saw seven at Florida. Obviously we got
• 1:24:28
  Speaker 7: more fourth fun with audio. Walter Jones will join us
• 1:24:32
  Speaker 7: at five tonight. He's on the way to Florida. We'll
• 1:24:35
  Speaker 7: just see some family and friends. So he will join
• 1:24:37
  Speaker 7: us at five o'clock. All right, we're gonna do a
• 1:24:39
  Speaker 7: little Seahawk Opponent audio recap at five thirty with the
• 1:24:42
  Speaker 7: K and B R forty nine ers crew and by
• 1:24:45
  Speaker 7: our buddy Greg Poppa, color man Tim Ryan Time five
• 1:24:49
  Speaker 7: going back into the Way Back Machine five twenty eight
• 1:24:51
  Speaker 7: tonight will do that, And I gotta tell you, man,
• 1:24:53
  Speaker 7: for the first time since the twenty thirteen LOB, I
• 1:24:57
  Speaker 7: saw a team on Saturday night that reminded me of
• 1:24:59
  Speaker 7: that team twelve years ago. Yeah, and there's a lot more,
• 1:25:02
  Speaker 7: a lot of reasons why, but that was pretty damn
• 1:25:05
  Speaker 7: fun watching that football team play on Saturday.
• 1:25:08
  Speaker 2: Man, that was a beat down. Is there anything better
• 1:25:10
  Speaker 2: than bullying the forty nine ers? No, bullying Oregon's pretty good.
• 1:25:13
  Speaker 2: Yeah for you guys, I would say if you ever
• 1:25:15
  Speaker 2: bullyed the Huskies. But you know, you don't know what
• 1:25:18
  Speaker 2: it feels like. Is Sam coming back? Or you guys
• 1:25:20
  Speaker 2: gonna run a Sam Hewart? I don't know why why
• 1:25:23
  Speaker 2: would he come to see? Did?
• 1:25:24
  Speaker 8: Come on?
• 1:25:25
  Speaker 2: Man, you can be better than that. Okay, come on,
• 1:25:27
  Speaker 2: you know what are are you guys gonna run the
• 1:25:30
  Speaker 2: quarterback option again with Will Rogers? I was bullying you guys,
• 1:25:33
  Speaker 2: That's okay. I was bullying, And you can't say about
• 1:25:35
  Speaker 2: Oregon you can semi finals? Buddy?
• 1:25:37
  Speaker 1: They are?
• 1:25:37
  Speaker 2: You know what shirt up in the middle day?
• 1:25:39
  Speaker 7: By the way, what an Indiana T shirt I'll be
• 1:25:41
  Speaker 7: wearing on Friday.
• 1:25:43
  Speaker 2: You and bless you, thank you you and Mike Caason.
• 1:25:46
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, big time. I'm with a mango Hoosiers. Let's
• 1:25:49
  Speaker 2: go come on kick their ass?
• 1:25:50
  Speaker 5: See you for the mild mannered and marginally objection the
• 1:25:54
  Speaker 5: bully in forness this paddle day, saying so long everyone