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Credlin | 17 June · Credlin

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Speaker 1: Peedo Kranland live on Sky News Australia.
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Speaker 2: Good evening and welcome to the show. I'm Caleb Bond.
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Speaker 2: Here's what's coming up tonight. New polling today that would
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Speaker 2: be sounding alarm bells for Labor as the party remains
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Speaker 2: in free fall. While Dutton's message on cost of living
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Speaker 2: appears to be resonating. Dennis Shanahan will join him for
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Speaker 2: his analysis. Shortly, we should be having a Royal commission
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Speaker 2: into our whole COVID response, with specific attention given to
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Speaker 2: the now absurd vaccine mandates that were forced upon Australians.
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Speaker 2: But seeing as we're yet to get an apology from
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Speaker 2: one leader or health leader or any politician, I'm not
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Speaker 2: holding my breath. Plus, we'll go live to London following
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Speaker 2: a big weekend for the Royal family, with all eyes
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Speaker 2: on the Princess of Wales who made her first official
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Speaker 2: public appearance since her cancer diagnosis, and the Chinese Premier's
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Speaker 2: trip to Canberra is derailed by officials trying to block
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Speaker 2: Sky's one reporter, Cheng Lay from the cameras. I'll get
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Speaker 2: Chris Yulman's take on the shocking display and how the
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Speaker 2: trip has gone in general.
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Speaker 3: They went to great lengths to block me from the
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Speaker 3: cameras and to flank me, and I'm only guessing that
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Speaker 3: is to prevent me from saying something or doing something
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Speaker 3: that they think would be a.
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Speaker 4: Bad look, but that itself was a bad look. I
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Speaker 4: ended up feeling like an endangered species, like a panda,
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Speaker 4: being protected by these Australian government media officials because they
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Speaker 4: didn't want them to get too close to me.
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Speaker 3: Yeah.
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Speaker 2: Well, fresh from receiving the country's highest civilian honor this
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Speaker 2: time last week, former Victorian Premier Daniel Andrews was today
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Speaker 2: a rock star among the Chinese in Canberra. As you
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Speaker 2: would have seen. Chinese Premier Lee Chiang today hit Canberra
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Speaker 2: to meet with the Prime Minister Anthony Albanizi after yesterday
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Speaker 2: being in Adelaide to announce two new pandas for Adelaide Zoo.
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Speaker 2: The PM hosted a state lunch at the Great Hall
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Speaker 2: in Parliament House for mister Lee and mister Andrews was
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Speaker 2: among the lucky few to snag an invitation to the
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Speaker 2: knees up. Now we know how close mister Andrews was
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Speaker 2: to China during his premiership. He signed Victoria onto China's
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Speaker 2: Belton Road Initiative, whereby the Chinese Communist Party would have
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Speaker 2: helped fund infrastructure projects in Victoria. Stevie Wonder could see
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Speaker 2: the problems with that. I mean, what could possibly go wrong?
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Speaker 2: Inextricably linking an Australian state to China with money. You know,
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Speaker 2: here you go, We're just the friendly CCP, have some
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Speaker 2: dollars to go build some roads and will never come
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Speaker 2: asking for anything in return, in the words of the
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Speaker 2: great John Elliot, another great Victorian pigs ass and of
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Speaker 2: course the Morrison government tore up that agreement in twenty
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Speaker 2: twenty one due to national security concern us. Those deals
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Speaker 2: with China, by the way, were never agreed to by cabinet,
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Speaker 2: They were done by Andrews and his department alone, a
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Speaker 2: familiar story as to how the man operated as Premier,
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Speaker 2: and don't forget he visited China last year, the first
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Speaker 2: Australian leader to do so since the COVID pandemic, just
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Speaker 2: weeks after the Orcist deal was signed, with very few
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Speaker 2: details of who he was meeting release to the public,
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Speaker 2: and journalists banned from going with him, as his customary
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Speaker 2: when a leader goes overseas, even the Age described it
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Speaker 2: as a Victorian trade mission with a level of subterfuge
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Speaker 2: the Chinese Communist Party would be proud of. Indeed, and
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Speaker 2: he looked every bit the Chinese chum. In Canberra today,
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Speaker 2: Jade Galberger and The Herald Son wrote that there was
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Speaker 2: a flurry of activity upon mister Andrew's arrival at Parliament,
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Speaker 2: with guests calling out to him and asking for pictures.
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Speaker 2: I'm glad someone appreciates him for trying to sell Victoria
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Speaker 2: out to a foreign victatorial communist regime. I mean, we
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Speaker 2: know how hard up the state is for money right now.
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Speaker 2: Imagine if China came knocking and decided they want something
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Speaker 2: in return for all that money they were set to give.
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Speaker 2: But while it was smiles and photos and pats on
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Speaker 2: the back in Canberra, the screws were turning a little
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Speaker 2: tighter on Andrew's back. In Melbourne, The Herald Son revealed
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Speaker 2: today that Andrews is fighting to keep secret his phone
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Speaker 2: records on the day his car collided with a young
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Speaker 2: cyclist on the Mornington Peninsula in twenty thirteen, and these
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Speaker 2: phone records are important given what happened at the crash scene.
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Speaker 2: Ryan Muhlman was fifteen when he suffered a punctured lung,
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Speaker 2: broken ribs, internal bleeding and lost ninety percent of his
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Speaker 2: spleen after a crash at blair Gowy. Andrews has previously
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Speaker 2: claimed the kid was speeding on his bike and that
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Speaker 2: was what caused this damage to his car. When he
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Speaker 2: was opposition leader. His wife Catherine, said she was driving
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Speaker 2: at the time. Mulmann spoke to The Herald's son for
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Speaker 2: the first time about the crash in twenty twenty two
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Speaker 2: and said the car was speeding and seemed to come
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Speaker 2: out of nowhere. He claimed that while he was lying
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Speaker 2: on the ground screaming, mister and missus Andrews were yelling
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Speaker 2: at each other with horrified looks on their faces and
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Speaker 2: didn't bend down to help him. No one was breathalyzed
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Speaker 2: at the crash scene, and mister Muleman said he didn't
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Speaker 2: give a police statement with his account of what happened.
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Speaker 2: After calling triple zero, mister Andrews left the scene in
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Speaker 2: his car damaged car to take his children back to
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Speaker 2: their holiday house. I mean, you saw what sort of
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Speaker 2: state the car was in. How he was allowed to
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Speaker 2: drive that From the scene I don't know now. Mister
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Speaker 2: Muleman and his lawyers are concerned that there could have
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Speaker 2: been interference after the crash, and in March issued a
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Speaker 2: subpoena for mister Andrews's phone records to find out who,
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Speaker 2: if anyone, he spoke too between the crash happening and
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Speaker 2: calling Triple Zero. According to police documents, he didn't call
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Speaker 2: Triple Zero until four minutes after the crash is estimated
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Speaker 2: to have happened. Ambulances had been alerted two minutes before
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Speaker 2: Andrews called because Triple Zero had heard from a resident first.
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Speaker 2: In a sworn statement to police, Andrews said that he
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Speaker 2: had called Triple Zero immediately. He's now engaged well known
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Speaker 2: lawyer Leon Zwire to fight the order now. Mister Zwire
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Speaker 2: helped negotiate the Andrews government out of the East Westlink
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Speaker 2: and the twenty twenty six Commonwealth Games contracts. He's also
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Speaker 2: previously acted for Bill Shorten and most recently, Britney Higgins
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Speaker 2: in Bruce Lehreman's defamation trial against Network ten and Lisa Wilkinson.
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Speaker 2: This Channel, Shari Marxon revealed that Zwire met with higgins
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Speaker 2: then fiance David Scharaz the night before she hit the
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Speaker 2: witness box last year, and gave advice to Charaz on
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Speaker 2: what she should tell the judge under oath ver Zwire
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Speaker 2: also said that he wrote Higgins draft medical report that
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Speaker 2: said her mental health was too fragile for a retrial
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Speaker 2: after the rape trial against Lehrman was aborted. That aside,
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Speaker 2: and there's no suggestion that Zwire meant his advice to
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Speaker 2: be passed on to Higgins, or indeed that it was.
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Speaker 2: He is a Group one lawyer, and it's telling that
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Speaker 2: mister Andrews would call in someone so senior an experience
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Speaker 2: to fight this subpoena. All they've asked for is his
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Speaker 2: phone records on the day of the crash January seventh,
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Speaker 2: twenty thirteen. It's a simple request and one that you
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Speaker 2: would think would be of little concern to mister Andrews.
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Speaker 2: Why doesn't he want that to be revealed? Mister Muhlman
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Speaker 2: and his family simply want to know who, if anyone,
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Speaker 2: was called in the four odd minutes before Andrews got
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Speaker 2: onto Triple zero. And that seems fair enough, given no
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Speaker 2: one was breathalyzed, and it took him so long to
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Speaker 2: make the call. Mister Andrews has long maintained that all
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Speaker 2: proper processes were followed on the day, but his version
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Speaker 2: of events differs greatly from that of mister Muelman. He
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Speaker 2: and his lawyers have described this attempt to get hold
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Speaker 2: of the phone record as a phishing expedition. Why not
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Speaker 2: just open the records and let the disinfectant of daylight
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Speaker 2: do the talking. Well. Moving from one labor premiere to another,
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Speaker 2: South Australian Premier Peter malanowskis again ruled out on the
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Speaker 2: weekend ever going into federal politics. I asked him about
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Speaker 2: this in January. There are persistent rumors that you could
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Speaker 2: be parachuted into federal politics at some point and even
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Speaker 2: be a potential leader. Can you rule out ever making
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Speaker 2: a tilt at federal politics?
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Speaker 5: Ah, I can calibi. I'm wholeheighly committed to this job.
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Speaker 5: My wife and I have just been lucky enough to
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Speaker 5: have our fourth child. We've got an infinite home and
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Speaker 5: doing this job is hard enough with those trying to
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Speaker 5: balance family life as well.
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Speaker 2: Well. He again told an event in Adelaide on Friday
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Speaker 2: that he will never ever go into federal politics. Now
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Speaker 2: I'm not in the business of encouraging politicians to lie.
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Speaker 2: But I truly hope that in this case he is.
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Speaker 2: Malanowskis and I have our differences, but he is a
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Speaker 2: fundamentally decent politician and more importantly, a competent leader. He
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Speaker 2: even managed to annoy Essay's Chief Public health Officer, Nicholas
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Speaker 2: Buryer recently. Remember the don't touch that ball woman, We're
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Speaker 2: good to go.
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Speaker 1: Plaser, gentlemen.
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Speaker 5: This is what tomkins atonis used to smoke in the
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Speaker 5: space of one week, but not anymore.
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Speaker 2: Tom Kurtz and TNIs is the Transport Minister and former TREA.
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Speaker 2: I mean, look at the look on her face. That
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Speaker 2: alone is enough to make you like the guy. He's
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Speaker 2: one of the few labor premiers more than happy to
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Speaker 2: come on this channel, and under his leadership, South Australia
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Speaker 2: is the best performing economy in the country. He's brought
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Speaker 2: big investment to the state, big events like gather Around
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Speaker 2: and Live golf and the Adelaide five hundred back from
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Speaker 2: the dead, and for the most party isn't polarizing. Contrast
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Speaker 2: act with the Albanezi government of late, with its endless
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Speaker 2: bungles and useless ministers like Andrew Giles, and it's hard
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Speaker 2: to not want someone like Malinowskis in the Federal Labor Party.
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Speaker 2: Malanowskis might not need Canberra, but I think Canberra needs Malanowskis.
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Speaker 2: Let's head to Canberra now for tonight's political headlines with
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Speaker 2: Sky News political reporter Trudy Macintosh.
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Speaker 6: A warm handshake after years of frosty relations, China's Premier
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Speaker 6: Lee Chang met with a military welcome outside Parliament just
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Speaker 6: down the lawn. Things getting heated between pro and anti
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Speaker 6: Beijing protesters. It's the first visit by a Chinese premiere
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Speaker 6: in seven years.
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Speaker 7: This relationships of steady improvement.
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Speaker 6: Improvement on the surface, but China's sensitivity on full display.
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Speaker 6: Beijing officials tried to block Sky News journalist Chang Lay
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Speaker 6: at the joint remarks.
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Speaker 3: They went to great lengths to block me from the camera's.
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Speaker 6: Australian public servants were forced to step in and defend
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Speaker 6: Miss Chang.
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Speaker 8: Look, I'm not aware of those issues. It's important that
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Speaker 8: people be allowed to participate fully.
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Speaker 9: It is completely not credible the promise of did not
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Speaker 9: know when he walked into the press conference that this
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Speaker 9: incident happened.
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Speaker 6: Premier League was honored with a state lunch in the
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Speaker 6: Great Hall.
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Speaker 8: To the President and the people of the People's Republic
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Speaker 8: of China.
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Speaker 6: Australian wine and beef on the menu. Are not to
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Speaker 6: progress made on lifting twenty billion dollars in punitive trade sanctions.
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Speaker 8: There is much that remains to be done, but it
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Speaker 8: is clear that our nations are making progress.
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Speaker 6: The Prime Minister vowed to continue speaking out.
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Speaker 8: We won't always agree, and the points in which we
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Speaker 8: disagree won't simply disappear if we lead them in silence.
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Speaker 6: He used private talks to raise foreign interference concerns, China's
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Speaker 6: support for Russia's invasion of Ukraine and dangerous interactions between
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Speaker 6: our two militaries.
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Speaker 8: One of the very practical measures that we spoke about
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Speaker 8: was improving military to military communication so as to avoid incidents.
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Speaker 6: The opposition leader held talks of his own.
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Speaker 10: It's incredibly one point in history that we are able
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Speaker 10: to work together, that we are able to exchange ideas.
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Speaker 6: The focus shifts west. On Tuesday, Premier Leede to tour
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Speaker 6: a Chinese own lithium factory outside Perth. Trudy McIntosh Sky News.
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Speaker 2: Cabro did you notice there in the footage of the
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Speaker 2: Prime Minister making the toast. He didn't even have a
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Speaker 2: glass of red wine in his hand. One more reason
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Speaker 2: not to trust the bloat. Well. For more on today's
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Speaker 2: big stories, I'm joined by the national editor for The Australian,
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Speaker 2: Dennis Shanahan. Dennis, welcome. Let's start with the latest Resolved
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Speaker 2: political monitor figures out in the Nine Papers today, which
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Speaker 2: shows that the Labor government is essentially in free fall.
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Speaker 2: The budget has failed to really help Anthony Albanezi gain
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Speaker 2: any ground, certainly in this poll, and we know that
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Speaker 2: the News poll has showed them pretty much on track
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Speaker 2: with where they were at the last election. The Resolve
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Speaker 2: pole only measures primary votes, but the coalition remains steady
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Speaker 2: on thirty six percent, but Labour's tumbled to twenty eight percent,
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Speaker 2: which is the lowest primary since Resolve started doing polling
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Speaker 2: for the Nine Papers after the twenty twenty nineteen Sorry election, Dennis.
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Speaker 2: If they're having a look at this today, I dare
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Speaker 2: say they'd be slightly worried.
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Speaker 1: Very worried.
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Speaker 11: And it's not just the Resolve poll. What we've seen
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Speaker 11: over the last couple of weeks. We've seen News Poll, Resolve,
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Speaker 11: we saw fresh water in the Financial Review today and
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Speaker 11: they are all showing the same thing. There is a
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Speaker 11: unanimous view coming out of the polls. Labour's support is
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Speaker 11: either just holding or going down. The coalition support is
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Speaker 11: going up or holding. And more importantly, Anthony Albanese continues
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Speaker 11: to be on a slide, while simultaneously Peter Dutton as
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Speaker 11: preferred Prime Minister the first time in this Resolve poll
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Speaker 11: actually in front of Anthony Albanese as preferred Prime minister.
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Speaker 11: What we're seeing is a relentless it is small, but
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Speaker 11: relentless movement. It is moving in the Coalition's favor. And
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Speaker 11: what we're seeing is Antony Albanesi losing approval as prime minister.
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Speaker 11: But the third thing, the most important thing of all,
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Speaker 11: is that on issues particularly cost of living, economic management,
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Speaker 11: housing costs, and climate and the environment, Labor is in
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Speaker 11: big trouble because and look, you can never say one
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Speaker 11: thing happened the week before a poll and that influenced
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Speaker 11: the polls. But last week Peter Dutton went out there
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Speaker 11: and said he would challenge Labour's commitment to the twenty
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Speaker 11: thirty emissions targets and what he would do would put
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Speaker 11: the cost of living households and families. First, it's very
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Speaker 11: hard to say that hasn't had an immediate impact on
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Speaker 11: the polls. To the Coalition's benefit and particularly to Peter Dutton,
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Speaker 11: I think Labour would look at all of these poles
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Speaker 11: see real trouble and no easy solution. As Peter Dutton
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Speaker 11: adopts a much more aggressive attitude on policy and conflating
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Speaker 11: climate change targets in Paris with the cost of living
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Speaker 11: in paramatter, and it.
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Speaker 2: Seems to be working. And it's interesting when you break
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Speaker 2: down the results by gender. The Coalition is in front
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Speaker 2: with both male and female voters, and you have to
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Speaker 2: wonder whether Dutton is watching those numbers because the Coalition
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Speaker 2: is now investigating policies to make it easier for female
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Speaker 2: entrepreneurs to access capital and encourage women to take more
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Speaker 2: control of household finances. And this is being spearheaded by
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Speaker 2: the Opposition finance spokeswoman Jane Hume, who also wants to
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Speaker 2: improve the financial literacy of women. But I suspect Dennis
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Speaker 2: that it might be an entire generation that needs their
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Speaker 2: financial literacy improved, not just women.
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Speaker 11: Indeed, and look, one of the keys here is that
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Speaker 11: Jane Hume is looking at small business operators. She makes
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Speaker 11: the point that one in three small business operators are women,
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Speaker 11: and the small business community is one of the heartlands
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Speaker 11: of the Liberal Party. It is one of the main
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Speaker 11: targets of Peter Dutton, and so there is a complete
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Speaker 11: complementarity here between trying to appeal to entrepreneurial women and
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Speaker 11: the small business vote. I think that labor the Liberals
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Speaker 11: have to be careful they don't draw too much attention
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Speaker 11: away from the strategic position of cost of living. But
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Speaker 11: this would seem to be another winner for the coalition,
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Speaker 11: and we're.
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Speaker 2: Talking about winners for the coalition. I think that there's
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Speaker 2: probably an attitude at the moment that will let the
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Speaker 2: government sort of go on all this NDIS stuff. We
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Speaker 2: won't ride them too hard because we want them to
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Speaker 2: where the what is going on in terms of all
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Speaker 2: this routing. Pretty much every single day you have another
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Speaker 2: report of routing out of the NDIS. There was another
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Speaker 2: one today the Daily Telegraph reporting that dungeons and Dragons,
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Speaker 2: gaming nights and supposedly lego based therapies are some services
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Speaker 2: that are being advertised on an online marketplace for NDAs
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Speaker 2: participants to spend their taxpayer funds on and these pages
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Speaker 2: reportedly have no official affiliation to the program. They're not
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Speaker 2: officially registered, most of them, but they offer luxury accommodations,
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Speaker 2: ski trips, excursions to the movies, and all sorts of
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Speaker 2: stuff like this covered by the NDAs. We're talking about
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Speaker 2: one hundred and sixty dollars an hour for quote unquote
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Speaker 2: lego therapy. As if this couldn't get any worse.
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Speaker 11: Well, Caleb, I'm glad you asked me about this because
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Speaker 11: it makes me very angry, and not angry about what
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Speaker 11: you may think. It's not that people are spending one
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Speaker 11: hundred and sixty dollars on a lego camp or dungeons
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Speaker 11: and dragons.
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Speaker 1: What angers me is.
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Speaker 11: That Bill Shorten, as minister who put this scheme together,
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Speaker 11: and then as the opposition spokesman, said the real problem
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Speaker 11: with the NDIS was corruption, that it was the way
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Speaker 11: that people were misusing the system, the people who were
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Speaker 11: making money out of the NDIS, and then he pledged
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Speaker 11: to fix all of that in opposition. Well, clearly in
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Speaker 11: government he's not doing that. But the more important point,
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Speaker 11: and this is what makes me angry, is that he
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Speaker 11: has not addressed the heart of the issue of the
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Speaker 11: problem with the NDIS. The NDIS is going to cripple
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Speaker 11: the economy. It is going to overtake the budget. It
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Speaker 11: is already more spending than medicare. And the reason is
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Speaker 11: not because of lego camps or dungeons of dragons and
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Speaker 11: dungeons and dungeons and dragons. It's because the government will
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Speaker 11: not address the core funding problem of the NDS, and
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Speaker 11: that is it is supplying assistance to people it was
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Speaker 11: never meant to address. They are pouring billions into giving
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Speaker 11: people support that were never intended to have the support.
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Speaker 11: Of course, it is too hard a decision to say, oh,
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Speaker 11: you're getting this support, but we're going to take it
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Speaker 11: off you to make the real changes the NDIS. And
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Speaker 11: so what we're seeing is Bill Shorten being bitten on
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Speaker 11: the bum by his own corruption allegations about the NDIS
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Speaker 11: and not addressing the real problem there.
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Speaker 2: I feel better now. I'm glad Dennison look to be
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Speaker 2: perfectly honest. I think there are a few politicians that
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Speaker 2: you and I and the viewers at home wouldn't mind
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Speaker 2: locking in a dungeon with a dragon right now. Dennis,
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Speaker 2: thank you so much for your time today.
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Speaker 1: Thanks Cayley.
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Speaker 2: Now, over the weekend I wrote a column about the
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Speaker 2: mounting evidence that the COVID vaccine was rushed, less effective
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Speaker 2: than we were led to believe, and in some instances dangerous.
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Speaker 2: Now this isn't to say that there wasn't a place
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Speaker 2: for the COVID vaccine, particularly those who are vulnerable to
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Speaker 2: the virus, but we now know that for the vast
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Speaker 2: majority of us, the vaccine did not live up to
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Speaker 2: the expectations. So many health experts and politicians pushed and
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Speaker 2: that on that basis, it was completely wrong to mandate it.
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Speaker 2: You know, make it available, take it if you want it.
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Speaker 2: But there was no genuine reason to make it compulsory.
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Speaker 2: And yet there has been no acknowledgment of the failures
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Speaker 2: of the vaccine program or an apology to all the
22:08
Speaker 2: Australians that were in effect forced to take the vaccine
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Speaker 2: because of these onerous mandates. Let's bring in one of
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Speaker 2: the few politicians who's remained steadfast in his opposition to
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Speaker 2: the mandates, Liberal Senator Alex ANTIQ. Senator welcome. I mean
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Speaker 2: you know that there's more and more evidence coming out
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Speaker 2: as we speak. There was a recent study, Dutch study
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Speaker 2: that raised the possibility that vaccines could be linked to
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Speaker 2: arise in excess deaths, and that that was worth investigating.
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Speaker 2: We are due an apology for these mandates that quite seriously,
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Speaker 2: never had any real basis in sights. It didn't stop contraction,
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Speaker 2: it didn't stop transmission. It was basically a measure for
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Speaker 2: you to help yourself. It didn't help anyone else, particularly
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Speaker 2: why the mandates.
23:02
Speaker 9: Yeah, that's exactly right, Caleb. And in fact, there never
23:05
Speaker 9: was any evidence of it. It's not like that's a
23:07
Speaker 9: new material fact. It's not like it's something that's just
23:09
Speaker 9: cropped up in the last year or two years. The
23:12
Speaker 9: experts knew that those were real. Experts knew that back
23:15
Speaker 9: in twenty twenty one, there was plenty of evidence that
23:18
Speaker 9: these things weren't stopping transmission. In fact, that was the
23:21
Speaker 9: very reason why the virus took off in Australia, particularly
23:24
Speaker 9: in South Australia. As it did. People were vaccinated, but
23:28
Speaker 9: it was still spreading. So look, people certainly are owed apology. People,
23:32
Speaker 9: not me, but people who really really did it tough
23:36
Speaker 9: out there, people who lost their jobs, people whose families
23:39
Speaker 9: had been interrupted and disrupted as a result of this.
23:42
Speaker 9: People you know, who were excluded from Christmases and all
23:46
Speaker 9: sorts of things. And I mean it really does make
23:49
Speaker 9: you think we have people in our community who stood
23:52
Speaker 9: up to this form of push. We have people who
23:57
Speaker 9: said no, they're not going to do it under any circumstances,
23:59
Speaker 9: that took hit to their livelihoods, and they are the
24:02
Speaker 9: real heroes here, Caleb. They are people that deserve the
24:06
Speaker 9: apology from government, the apology from the media. I mean,
24:09
Speaker 9: it still will do a hard time. Other than your
24:12
Speaker 9: very good article, I must say, find a voice in
24:14
Speaker 9: the mainstream media that's properly covering this. With a few exceptions,
24:17
Speaker 9: there are a handful, but on the whole, there's a
24:19
Speaker 9: whole lot of fingers in the years because a lot
24:21
Speaker 9: of these media outlets are the ones that were pushing
24:24
Speaker 9: and yelling the loudest and pushing the agenda. So you know,
24:27
Speaker 9: there are a lot of people that are owed a
24:29
Speaker 9: lot of apologies.
24:29
Speaker 1: And actually, I have.
24:30
Speaker 9: To say, I think when all is done and dusted,
24:34
Speaker 9: Australians are going to be very very angry about what
24:37
Speaker 9: took place. There's plenty more to come out about this,
24:40
Speaker 9: I can assure you well, I think.
24:42
Speaker 2: They already are angry I mean, look, you know, I'm
24:44
Speaker 2: privy to the numbers that we get in terms of
24:47
Speaker 2: clicks and things online for these issues, and there has
24:51
Speaker 2: been an appetite even after the pandemic finished. There's very
24:54
Speaker 2: much been an appetite for stories about what the pandemic
24:57
Speaker 2: has done to people and the after effects of the pandemic,
25:01
Speaker 2: because I think we're all very upset with what was
25:04
Speaker 2: done to us, whether it be the lockdowns or the mandates, etc.
25:08
Speaker 2: And you know, more than NATA were well above ninety
25:11
Speaker 2: percent of people had at least two doses. But I
25:14
Speaker 2: think most Australians believe in a fair go and a
25:18
Speaker 2: just society and they can look at things like the
25:21
Speaker 2: mandates and go, hang on, that wasn't fair, that shouldn't
25:25
Speaker 2: have happened, And it's just one of the many things
25:27
Speaker 2: that was done to us that we deserve an apology for.
25:30
Speaker 2: But of course, without a royal commission, which this federal
25:33
Speaker 2: government won't give us, we're probably never going to get
25:36
Speaker 2: that apology.
25:38
Speaker 9: Yeah, well, we absolutely do need a royal commission. We
25:40
Speaker 9: need a proper one, and many of us have been
25:42
Speaker 9: saying that for a long period of time, more than
25:44
Speaker 9: just inquiries that can be dealt with with the flick
25:49
Speaker 9: of a wrist. I mean we need much more than that.
25:50
Speaker 9: We need a proper deep dive into what happened here.
25:52
Speaker 9: And I mean what I would say is though that
25:54
Speaker 9: it does remind people that more voices were needed in
25:57
Speaker 9: this space during that period. There were too many that
25:59
Speaker 9: were happy to go along with it. That's the Australian way.
26:01
Speaker 9: I get it that the dozsies trust their governments, they
26:04
Speaker 9: trust their institutions, but this COVID period needs to be
26:07
Speaker 9: a bit of a wake up call for people in
26:09
Speaker 9: our community that you need to use your own judgment
26:12
Speaker 9: as well in life. Very hard when you're being pushed
26:14
Speaker 9: in coerced as we were. But there was a chorus
26:17
Speaker 9: coming from the community that was calling people names, calling
26:20
Speaker 9: them all sorts of horrendous things because of their own
26:23
Speaker 9: personal decisions which never affected anyone else. And people out
26:28
Speaker 9: there in the community also have a role to play
26:30
Speaker 9: in that contrition as well, I have to say.
26:32
Speaker 2: And it was interesting to see last week the former
26:34
Speaker 2: Deputy Chief Medical Officer Nick Coatsworth, who's now a medical
26:39
Speaker 2: commentator over at the Nine Networks, saying that he hasn't
26:43
Speaker 2: been vaccinated for two years. Most people haven't received a
26:47
Speaker 2: vaccination for two years for that matter. But of course
26:50
Speaker 2: he was involved in the outfit that sort of set
26:53
Speaker 2: up all of this regime, and he was more than
26:55
Speaker 2: happy to say, Yep, you know, I haven't done it.
26:57
Speaker 2: The science says I don't need to do it. But
27:00
Speaker 2: not even he could be forthcoming with an apology and say, look,
27:04
Speaker 2: I'm very sorry, we shouldn't have done that. Why is
27:07
Speaker 2: it so hard for these people to just put their
27:10
Speaker 2: hand up and say, look, we got it wrong, we
27:14
Speaker 2: shouldn't have done that. It will never happen again.
27:18
Speaker 9: Yeah, well, look, I'm in the specific case of Coats
27:20
Speaker 9: with I don't know, and I don't seem to speak
27:22
Speaker 9: on his behalf or anyone else really suffice to say
27:24
Speaker 9: that I would I would imagine that for people that
27:27
Speaker 9: have been out championing that particular path and that particular
27:31
Speaker 9: avenue during COVID, it's very difficult for them to turn
27:34
Speaker 9: around now and say, whoops, we might have made a mistake.
27:35
Speaker 1: It's human nature.
27:37
Speaker 9: In the case of media outlets, the evidence is all
27:39
Speaker 9: around Caleb. It doesn't take a detective, you know, to
27:46
Speaker 9: dig around and find the information out there There's plenty
27:49
Speaker 9: of information out there which will tell you the real
27:51
Speaker 9: story about what happened, but there is a certain willful
27:53
Speaker 9: blindness in the media in certain areas to simply look
27:57
Speaker 9: the other way. I hope this doesn't go away. I
27:59
Speaker 9: hear it all the time. Can't we over this yet?
28:01
Speaker 9: Why can't we get on with things? Why are we
28:03
Speaker 9: still talking about this? Well, the reason is it's affected
28:06
Speaker 9: people in a very dramatic way. And also we still
28:08
Speaker 9: have bodies like the World Health Organization that are pushing
28:11
Speaker 9: for even more power to be given to do similar
28:14
Speaker 9: things in the future. So this is far from over.
28:16
Speaker 9: We need to be very vigilant about what we've done
28:19
Speaker 9: and where we're going because we cannot go through this again.
28:23
Speaker 2: And you know, those who don't loan from history are
28:26
Speaker 2: doomed to repeat it. And if we don't get that
28:27
Speaker 2: royal commission, you can always be guaranteed that we will
28:30
Speaker 2: repeat it at some point. Alexantik, thank you so much
28:33
Speaker 2: for your time, mate.
28:35
Speaker 1: Thanks keled After the brave Chris.
28:38
Speaker 2: Yulman joins me for his take on the Chinese premier's
28:40
Speaker 2: trip that's been marred by Chinese officials trying to block
28:43
Speaker 2: a scar News a reporter plus live to London with
28:46
Speaker 2: the Princess of Wales making your first public appearance in months,
28:49
Speaker 2: don't go away. Well, it's been a big day for
28:54
Speaker 2: photo ops in Canberra today with the Albanesi government rolling
28:58
Speaker 2: out the red carpet for the Chinese as he continues
29:01
Speaker 2: his visit to Australia. And much of the focus has
29:03
Speaker 2: been on the renewed trade relationship with our two countries,
29:07
Speaker 2: and of course that's important, but the elephant in the
29:09
Speaker 2: room remains China's growing hostility within our region, not to
29:13
Speaker 2: mention the litany of human rights abuses within China. For
29:18
Speaker 2: his take on how the trip has gone so far,
29:20
Speaker 2: Alex bring in Sky News contributor Chris Yulman. Chris, welcome
29:23
Speaker 2: to the show. Now we'll get to some of the
29:25
Speaker 2: specifics of the visit shortly, but what have been your
29:29
Speaker 2: initial observations from this trip.
29:32
Speaker 12: Well, as you say, Caleb, it's a good thing that
29:34
Speaker 12: Australia is trading with China and is our major trading partner.
29:37
Speaker 12: We need to have a good relationship with China on
29:40
Speaker 12: that front, but we should never trust China. And I'll
29:43
Speaker 12: bring you to a couple of issues that we saw today.
29:45
Speaker 12: We might go to those in more details shortly, but
29:48
Speaker 12: what we saw with Chen Lai was inside our own
29:50
Speaker 12: parliament that the Chinese government officials were trying to stop
29:53
Speaker 12: an Australian journalist from doing her job, and the silence
29:57
Speaker 12: of Australians is precisely what the Chinese government wants over
30:01
Speaker 12: the long haul. So there's a bit of pantomime there
30:04
Speaker 12: which showed one of the key demands of Australia is
30:07
Speaker 12: that we stopped behaving like the democracy we are. To me,
30:10
Speaker 12: that's much too bigger price to pay for any kind
30:13
Speaker 12: of trade. And we were told, it is reported today
30:16
Speaker 12: that Australian officials were told to bring burner phones into
30:19
Speaker 12: Parliament House, So inside owned parliament, our security officials believe
30:23
Speaker 12: that there is a real and present danger that information
30:26
Speaker 12: may be stolen while the premier is visiting Australia. Now,
30:30
Speaker 12: I don't think I've ever heard anything like that before
30:33
Speaker 12: in Australian politics. I know that we were told we
30:35
Speaker 12: went overseas and we went to China not to take
30:37
Speaker 12: our phones. That's constantly the case. But I think that
30:39
Speaker 12: those two instance sort of loom large for me. It's
30:42
Speaker 12: the kind of relationship that we do have. We can
30:45
Speaker 12: have one of trade, but we can never have one
30:47
Speaker 12: of trust.
30:48
Speaker 2: Well, you mentioned Chung lay there. Let's take a look.
30:50
Speaker 2: Of course, we know that she was blocked today by
30:54
Speaker 2: Chinese officials. Let's ever listened to what the Prime Minister
30:57
Speaker 2: had to say about this when he was questioned about
31:00
Speaker 2: what went down in that joint press conference.
31:02
Speaker 5: Is it acceptable to import that kind of behavior into
31:06
Speaker 5: the heart of Australia's democracy here in Poland?
31:09
Speaker 1: Well, I didn't see that.
31:11
Speaker 2: I saw.
31:13
Speaker 8: Shang Layam were smiled at each other during during the event. Look,
31:21
Speaker 8: I'm not aware of those issues. It's important that people
31:25
Speaker 8: be allowed to participate fully.
31:30
Speaker 2: I mean the Prime Minister's not aware of it. Is
31:32
Speaker 2: this a bit like when he was in the back
31:34
Speaker 2: of a car and he said he couldn't possibly have
31:37
Speaker 2: known about a story that had broken because he was traveling.
31:40
Speaker 2: Surely someone would say to him, excuse me, this press conference,
31:45
Speaker 2: joint press conference between you and the Chinese premiere. Chinese
31:49
Speaker 2: officials tried to obstruct an Australian journalist, who of course
31:54
Speaker 2: had previously been detained by China. If that's not something
31:59
Speaker 2: about which the Prime Minister should be concerned. I don't
32:02
Speaker 2: know what is.
32:04
Speaker 12: Yes, And you would expect that a prime minister who's
32:07
Speaker 12: got good staff would be properly brief before he went
32:09
Speaker 12: in to give a press conference and would be certainly
32:11
Speaker 12: aware of that. Well, let's give him the benefit of
32:14
Speaker 12: fact a doubt and say.
32:15
Speaker 1: That he wasn't. But he should have an opinion on it.
32:17
Speaker 12: And the opinion is obviously that Australia is a democracy
32:21
Speaker 12: that trying to block journalists from doing their job in
32:24
Speaker 12: Australia is not something that Australian Prime minister would countenance.
32:27
Speaker 12: That an honest and open relationship with the People's Republic
32:30
Speaker 12: of China, it is we have to accept China on
32:32
Speaker 12: its terms. It's a superpower, you know so, and it
32:35
Speaker 12: will do as it will, but it has to accept
32:38
Speaker 12: us on our terms. And that's where a democracy and
32:41
Speaker 12: we must at every turn Colub, and I can't say
32:44
Speaker 12: this loudly enough. The only thing that China really wants
32:48
Speaker 12: of Australia is our resources and our silence. Some might
32:52
Speaker 12: believe that our silence isn't much to pay, but in
32:55
Speaker 12: a democracy, Calub, it's the only thing that's worth having.
32:59
Speaker 12: So it's not something that I am prepared to give up,
33:02
Speaker 12: not something I'm sure that you are prepared to give up.
33:04
Speaker 12: And has it a guess that Australians are prepared to
33:06
Speaker 12: give it up?
33:07
Speaker 2: Well, let's put all of this together. Se You've got
33:08
Speaker 2: the incident with chang Lei today, You've got, as you say,
33:12
Speaker 2: the fact that that people have been told to take
33:14
Speaker 2: burner phones into Parliament House because they're worried about phone
33:18
Speaker 2: tapping potentially happening. While the Chinese here, the economic relationship
33:24
Speaker 2: between our two countries is of course large. Two way
33:27
Speaker 2: trade last year was worth three hundred and twenty seven
33:31
Speaker 2: billion dollars, which is a quarter of our total trade.
33:35
Speaker 2: So they are a very important trading partner and we'd
33:38
Speaker 2: be up the creek without them. But as you say,
33:42
Speaker 2: if you give up the things that actually allow you
33:45
Speaker 2: to operate as an independent, democratic country, then what is
33:49
Speaker 2: the point of an economic relationship in the first place,
33:52
Speaker 2: Because you're opening the door to far more than an
33:55
Speaker 2: economic relationship. You're opening the door to a ruling relationship.
33:59
Speaker 2: And so you might be making lots of money, but
34:02
Speaker 2: the effect of making that money is essentially a sale
34:05
Speaker 2: of your values in your country.
34:08
Speaker 12: Yeah, and greater than that calied because at the moment,
34:10
Speaker 12: I'm doing a documentary on the energy transition, which will
34:12
Speaker 12: hopefully go to air on Sky in October, and I'll
34:15
Speaker 12: just run you through a few of the things that
34:17
Speaker 12: are obvious from what's happened to the West over this
34:19
Speaker 12: time and in terms of the rise of China. If
34:21
Speaker 12: you put a pin in nineteen ninety when China begins
34:24
Speaker 12: to rise and draw a line on its use of oil,
34:26
Speaker 12: its use of natural liquified natural gas, and it's use
34:29
Speaker 12: of coal, you'll see they've gone through the use. It
34:31
Speaker 12: burns fifty roof It's burned fifty four percent of the
34:34
Speaker 12: world's coal. It's the biggest user of liquified natural gas,
34:37
Speaker 12: it's the second biggest user of oil in the world,
34:40
Speaker 12: behind the United States. And what happened it rose to
34:43
Speaker 12: enormous power on using those fossil fuel resources. What happened
34:48
Speaker 12: at the same time to Europe and to the United
34:50
Speaker 12: States as we decided that we were no longer to
34:52
Speaker 12: go going to use those resources, well they flatlined, both
34:56
Speaker 12: of them flatlined. So what we have done is we've
34:58
Speaker 12: turned China into the industrial powerhouse of the world by
35:02
Speaker 12: burning the world's fossil fuel. The only thing that's happened
35:05
Speaker 12: in the twenty years that we've been trying to cut
35:06
Speaker 12: it is that we have moved industrial production to China.
35:10
Speaker 12: We've moved all of the fossil fuel burning to China.
35:12
Speaker 12: Fossil fuel carbon dioxide continues to rise in the atmosphere
35:17
Speaker 12: because of China. Now you do have to wonder about
35:20
Speaker 12: what the trade off is that we have made on that.
35:23
Speaker 12: What is the cost of what we have done. And
35:25
Speaker 12: I'm not saying that we shouldn't do something about combating
35:27
Speaker 12: climate change. All I'm saying is as a certain iron
35:31
Speaker 12: law in the use of energy, and that is, the
35:34
Speaker 12: person or the place that uses the most energy is
35:37
Speaker 12: the place that has the most power. Most things follow
35:41
Speaker 12: hand in hand, and you.
35:43
Speaker 2: Talk about energy and electricity here the Foreign Affairs Minister,
35:47
Speaker 2: Penny Wongan, I suppose that the government at the moment
35:50
Speaker 2: might be trying to suck up to China a little
35:52
Speaker 2: bit with the premiere in town, but she's sort of
35:54
Speaker 2: like the coalition stance on a twenty thirty emissions target
35:58
Speaker 2: to increasing China's influence in the Pacific region. Have a
36:02
Speaker 2: listened to what she had to say, It.
36:04
Speaker 7: Is also him yet again abandoning the field in the Pacific.
36:09
Speaker 7: You know, I still get when I move around the
36:13
Speaker 7: Pacific people remembering him joking about climate change by talking
36:19
Speaker 7: about water lapping at the door of Pacific Nations. People
36:23
Speaker 7: still remember that.
36:26
Speaker 2: It's a bit of a long bow, isn't it.
36:29
Speaker 12: Well, she has a point and she has a problem,
36:31
Speaker 12: and that is that. Yes, I have been to the
36:33
Speaker 12: International Jamboree. Is it where the countries of the world
36:37
Speaker 12: gather to talk about climate And yes, the Pacific Nations
36:40
Speaker 12: have made a very big deal about Australia's position in this,
36:43
Speaker 12: while not talking at all about the fact that China
36:46
Speaker 12: is the largest emitter in the world and has been
36:48
Speaker 12: for some time. But the thing that's demanded of Australia,
36:51
Speaker 12: the measured by which this government will be measured, is
36:55
Speaker 12: whether or not we continue to export coal and liquefied
36:59
Speaker 12: natural gas. And don't all of this talk about us
37:01
Speaker 12: being a green energy superpower one day. We are an
37:04
Speaker 12: energy superpower. Today We export the majority of the words
37:08
Speaker 12: world's metallurgical coal and a vast amount of its liquefied
37:12
Speaker 12: natural gas. Now the Pacific and a lot of other
37:14
Speaker 12: countries in the world want us to stop doing that.
37:17
Speaker 12: Now the Labor Party has been asked, if the Coalition
37:20
Speaker 12: has been asked to stop doing that. I will bet
37:24
Speaker 12: my life from the fact that no Australian government in
37:27
Speaker 12: the next couple of years is going to give up
37:28
Speaker 12: that much revenue for the request of the Pacific Islands,
37:32
Speaker 12: Nor would the Pacific Islands get the amount of support
37:35
Speaker 12: they do from the Australian government.
37:36
Speaker 1: If we didn't have that revenue.
37:38
Speaker 12: So yes, it's an issue, but Australia is in a bind.
37:42
Speaker 12: We cannot accede to that kind of demand. We'd be
37:45
Speaker 12: writing a very short suicide note exactly.
37:49
Speaker 2: And you've only got to look at the dollar figures
37:51
Speaker 2: to see the reality of that. Chris Hillman, thank you
37:53
Speaker 2: so much for your time. Well, all eyes have been
37:55
Speaker 2: on the Royals this week as the Princess of Wales
37:58
Speaker 2: made her first official publicaeppearance since a cancer diagnosis, attending
38:02
Speaker 2: the Trooping the Color Parade in London. Princess Catherine hasn't
38:07
Speaker 2: attended a public event since December, so it makes this
38:10
Speaker 2: for particularly thrilling event for royal watchers. For more, let's
38:13
Speaker 2: bring in Royal correspondent Sarah Houston Sarah. I think some
38:17
Speaker 2: of us were a bit surprised to see the Princess
38:20
Speaker 2: make an appearance, but glad to see her make an
38:22
Speaker 2: appearance on the wood.
38:23
Speaker 13: Yes, absolutely came out a fantastic surprise to see the
38:28
Speaker 13: Princess of Wales out in public for the first time
38:31
Speaker 13: since Christmas Day. She issued a statement on Friday night
38:35
Speaker 13: here in the UK announcing that she was going to
38:38
Speaker 13: be trooping the color and it was a very personal statement.
38:41
Speaker 13: She talked about her ongoing cancer treatment. She's still got
38:45
Speaker 13: a few more months to go. She talked about there
38:47
Speaker 13: been good days and bad days, that she's not out
38:50
Speaker 13: of the woods yet. But this certainly looked like a
38:52
Speaker 13: good day and it was definitely a good day for
38:55
Speaker 13: those Royal fans and Royal watchers who had lined the
38:58
Speaker 13: streets of London to catch a glimpse of her site
39:02
Speaker 13: for sore eyes.
39:03
Speaker 1: Really, there was.
39:04
Speaker 2: Doubt initially over whether she would make an appearance because
39:07
Speaker 2: she'd missed rehearsals during the week. Was that just part
39:11
Speaker 2: of the plan.
39:14
Speaker 13: There's no firm plan at the moment, because of course,
39:17
Speaker 13: with those good days and bad days, the Palace don't
39:19
Speaker 13: want to commit to something that they then have to
39:21
Speaker 13: remove her from so the rehearsal at the Colonel's Review
39:25
Speaker 13: that she was due to be undertaking the previous week.
39:27
Speaker 13: They'd been clear for some time that she wasn't going
39:29
Speaker 13: to be able to attend, that that was a solo engagement,
39:32
Speaker 13: and if she'd pulled out at the last minute it
39:33
Speaker 13: would have caused chaos at the King's birthday parade. I
39:36
Speaker 13: guess you could see her as a supporting act, and
39:39
Speaker 13: so if she hadn't been well enough to attend, it
39:42
Speaker 13: wouldn't have changed the fabric of the events, although of
39:45
Speaker 13: course it wouldn't have had the sparkle that she sprinkled
39:50
Speaker 13: on it. Kensington Palace had been vague for a few
39:53
Speaker 13: days a couple of weeks about whether she'd be come
39:55
Speaker 13: and giving us a hint.
39:56
Speaker 6: But I think the surprise was that she took a
39:58
Speaker 6: full part in it.
40:00
Speaker 13: I might have imagined she'd just appear on the bucking
40:02
Speaker 13: and Palace balcony alongside the family, but there we see
40:04
Speaker 13: her taking part in the carriage procession alongside her children,
40:09
Speaker 13: watching the full parade at horse Guards Parade for over
40:12
Speaker 13: an hour, and then appearing with the rest of the
40:14
Speaker 13: family on the balcony.
40:16
Speaker 2: Which was one hill of a supporting actor and the trooping.
40:19
Speaker 2: The color is, of course, usually about the sovereign, the king.
40:22
Speaker 2: How did King Charles feel about, I guess sharing the
40:25
Speaker 2: spotlight or perhaps even taking a little bit of a
40:28
Speaker 2: back seat in this particular case, because let's be honest,
40:31
Speaker 2: no one's really been talking about the King the last
40:33
Speaker 2: few days. I've only been talking about Princess Catherine.
40:37
Speaker 13: Yeah, okay, Levin. There's a lot of talk, isn't there
40:39
Speaker 13: about whether there's rivalry between the royals and who gets
40:42
Speaker 13: the most of the spotlight. But nothing happens by accident.
40:45
Speaker 13: There was that very striking image of the King and
40:48
Speaker 13: the Princess of Wales standing side by side, shoulder to
40:52
Speaker 13: shoulder on the Bucking and Palace balcony. Now, last year
40:55
Speaker 13: the King was standing next to his son William. This
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Speaker 13: time it was Kate standing alone side him, and that
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Speaker 13: was very deliberate. This pair have formed a very close bond.
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Speaker 13: It was already there, but enhanced by this shared experience
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Speaker 13: that they are going through, this shared cancer diagnosis. Of course,
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Speaker 13: they were in hospital at the same time. The King
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Speaker 13: was visiting his daughter in law at her bedside. He
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Speaker 13: had said that he was absolutely overjoyed to have her there,
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Speaker 13: and I think that showed and I think he was
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Speaker 13: more than happy for her to be taking some of
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Speaker 13: the glory on that day.
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Speaker 2: Sarah Houston, all the way from London, thank you so
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Speaker 2: much for joining me tonight. Well after the break, more
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Speaker 2: public outcry that labour's simply ignoring when it comes to
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Speaker 2: offshore wind projects class As I mentioned earlier, pressure mounts
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Speaker 2: on Daniel Andrews to hand over phone records from his
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Speaker 2: twenty thirteen car crash. More on that seron. All right,
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Speaker 2: there's plenty to get through, So let's bring in the
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Speaker 2: Monday Night panel eln P and P Keith Pitt and
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Speaker 2: Scarne New's contributor and former Howard government minister Gary Hardgrave
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Speaker 2: gently start with the battle that's courging on the New
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Speaker 2: South Wales south coast in the Illawara, the communities divided
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Speaker 2: over a proposed wind farm twenty kilometers off the coast
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Speaker 2: that was given the green lap by Chris Bowen over
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Speaker 2: the weekend. Of course, there's concerns over the environmental impacts
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Speaker 2: of all of this and what some see as a
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Speaker 2: sham consultation process. Already, the Nationals leader David Little Prowd
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Speaker 2: has said that the coalition would scrap the project if
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Speaker 2: voted in Keith. I would have thought, given what we
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Speaker 2: know about offshore wind down in Victoria, where the proposals
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Speaker 2: have shrunk and shrunk and shrunk and shrunk and shrunk,
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Speaker 2: I'm surprised anyone's even still seriously considering this.
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Speaker 1: At the moment. Well, let's have a look at what
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Speaker 1: it actually means.
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Speaker 10: The proposals for three gigawatts, and I'll give them the
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Speaker 10: benefit of doubt.
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Speaker 1: Maybe you'll get ten megawatts each.
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Speaker 10: So that's three hundred turbines, that two hundred and sixty
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Speaker 10: eight meters high.
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Speaker 1: That's higher than the Sydney Harbor Bridge.
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Speaker 10: They're going to pow us sometimes one point eight million homes,
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Speaker 10: but other times no homes.
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Speaker 1: And don't forget pepple Evan.
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Speaker 10: You remember the who brew Hahar about an exploration permit.
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Speaker 1: Up on the north coast. Well, where are the teals?
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Speaker 1: Where have they gone? They've disappeared.
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Speaker 10: I mean that they were against a permit just for
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Speaker 10: exploration that didn't even have a rig and hadn't applied
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Speaker 10: for a rig. But where are they for three hundred
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Speaker 10: of these things that kill birds. The whales have some
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Speaker 10: sort of magic knowledge that they can divert around three
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Speaker 10: hundred or shut wind turbines, but not one gas rig.
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Speaker 1: I just think this is.
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Speaker 10: Ludicrous, and this one's going to hurt labor in two
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Speaker 10: safe seats well.
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Speaker 2: And exactly the two labour safe seats Gary. So you know,
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Speaker 2: why would they particularly care just do whatever they want.
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Speaker 14: Look, because they're all signed up to some sort of
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Speaker 14: whacky international agreement. Everything is about keeping Paris happy, not
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Speaker 14: worrying about Paramatta or Parana anywhere like that. It's all
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Speaker 14: about the internationalist And look the the havoc that will
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Speaker 14: be that will be inflicted upon the whale migration. I
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Speaker 14: don't think one whale traveling up the east coast of
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Speaker 14: Australia would be safe with these things.
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Speaker 1: And I mean that seriously.
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Speaker 14: There's cables, there's concrete, there's interruptions, there's there's all sorts
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Speaker 14: of generated waves that will affect the gardens frequency.
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Speaker 1: Noise of the whales.
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Speaker 14: And as far as i'm frequency noise takes case, he's
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Speaker 14: an electric he he's an electrical engineer. He understands these things, Kayler.
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Speaker 14: But you know, in the end, this is to massacre migaloo.
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Speaker 14: This is not to make mega wats. It's the Massaca megaloo.
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Speaker 14: And that's the problem the Greens. The Greens should be
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Speaker 14: screaming about this, but because they're just part of those
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Speaker 14: entireational rubbish.
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Speaker 2: Well you remember the old chart to sort of make
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Speaker 2: fun of left wing causes, which was land rights for
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Speaker 2: gay whales. They might need them if they go and
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Speaker 2: build these offshore wind farms now and anti Israel, Heckler
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Speaker 2: picked the wrong target when he tried to disrupt Jerry
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Speaker 2: Seinfeld's show in Sidley last night. Look at this, it's
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Speaker 2: a hat.
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Speaker 14: Show, you warrant here.
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Speaker 1: We have a genius, ladies and gentlemen. He's solved the
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Speaker 1: Middle East.
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Speaker 5: He solved them.
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Speaker 11: It's the Jewish is that we have to.
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Speaker 2: Go tomorrow and we will read in the paper.
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Speaker 14: Middle East on solve thanks to man and the Kudo
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Speaker 14: Serena stopping to comedian.
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Speaker 1: They stop him.
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Speaker 2: I mean, how good is Seinfeld? But honestly, these people
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Speaker 2: think they're winning over Keith. You know, they go and
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Speaker 2: disrupt everyone else's enjoyment. It's just a surefire way to
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Speaker 2: turn everyone off. Your argument exactly exactly.
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Speaker 10: Well, the thing I like about this, Caleb is that
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Speaker 10: the show about nothing has been the show about it
45:52
Speaker 10: has become the show about something. And good on Jerry
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Speaker 10: Seinfeld exactly, and why shouldn't he give it to these people,
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Speaker 10: because he's exactly, They're right. None of them are going
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Speaker 10: to cause anything that happened in the Middle East. It
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Speaker 10: certainly won't cure what's happening over there.
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Speaker 1: It's not a solution.
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Speaker 10: And God on him for calling them out and having
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Speaker 10: a shot at him, because it's about time. So the
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Speaker 10: show about nothing it's been to become the show about everything.
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Speaker 2: I love it now Questions of surface regarding Daniel Andrews'
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Speaker 2: car crash with a teenage cyclist. This has been going
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Speaker 2: on for a while now. I talked about it at
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Speaker 2: the top of the show, but Andrews gary is refusing
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Speaker 2: to answer questions on why he's resisting a Supreme Court
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Speaker 2: order to hand over mobile phone records in the aftermath
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Speaker 2: of the twenty thirteen crash.
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Speaker 1: He was asked about it today.
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Speaker 2: But he refused to comment. He said it's before the courts.
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Speaker 2: There's a hearing expected within weeks. But he's previously referred
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Speaker 2: to the subpoena as a fishing expedition. What we're talking
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Speaker 2: about here is it apparently took him about four minutes
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Speaker 2: to call Triple zero after his car collided with this kid,
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Speaker 2: fifteen year old kid on the bike. They want to
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Speaker 2: know if he might have called anyone else in the
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Speaker 2: intervening four minutes, and if so, who that's the family
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Speaker 2: of the kid. Why wouldn't he want to hand over
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Speaker 2: those phone records?
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Speaker 14: Yeah, it makes you wonder was he turning the car off,
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Speaker 14: adjusting the Dare I say ac in the car as
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Speaker 14: he was getting out.
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Speaker 1: I have no idea, but I think it's reasonable.
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Speaker 14: We know, those of us who've been in public life
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Speaker 14: and those who are in public life have a duty
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Speaker 14: of accountability. And when something like this happens, what an
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Speaker 14: awful moment for everybody involved, both the Andrews and the
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Speaker 14: cyclist victim. I mean, all of this is bad, but
47:38
Speaker 14: you know, if you're going to lose Caleb in life,
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Speaker 14: in anything, in investment or whatever in politics, lose quickly
47:43
Speaker 14: get it over and done with. So he should have
47:45
Speaker 14: flushed this out, been overly cooperative and put it all
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Speaker 14: out there. So I genuinely hope that we get an
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Speaker 14: end to this thing one way, or the other. But
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Speaker 14: he's got to fess up and front up and give
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Speaker 14: people information they reasonably are asking for.
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Speaker 2: Well, you know, I would appeal to Daniel Andrews decency,
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Speaker 2: but I'm not sure that he actually has any of it.
48:07
Speaker 2: While we're in Melbourne. Peith the wife of former AFL
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Speaker 2: player Chris Judd. Influencer Beck Judd. She's spoken out about
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Speaker 2: crime rates in Melbourne before, but she's come out again
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Speaker 2: and said that Melbourne is quote sad, woke, broke and violent.
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Speaker 2: I can't believe we're living like this. And you know what,
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Speaker 2: we've only got a minute left, Keith, but I think
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Speaker 2: she speaks for all of us.
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Speaker 1: She's right, Well, she's absolutely right.
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Speaker 10: But can you imagine if it was Peter Dutton that
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Speaker 10: said it was gangs of use causing this sort of
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Speaker 10: crisis of what would happen be all over the front page?
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Speaker 10: In fact, I think it's something he might have said before.
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Speaker 10: So got on, Beck, judge. She is absolutely right. I've
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Speaker 10: got friends that live down there and they're scared themselves.
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Speaker 10: They've got all of this security they shouldn't have to have,
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Speaker 10: and we just need to crack down on these criminal
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Speaker 10: gangs and the activities are undertaken.
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Speaker 1: And the judiciary needs to ordered out and sort it
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Speaker 1: out fast.
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Speaker 2: Ten seconds Garring.
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Speaker 14: Here, Well, you've got a big sign in the yard
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Speaker 14: warning people as they're entering to that part around Brighton there,
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Speaker 14: and that's a very sad indictment of where Victoria is
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Speaker 14: right now.
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Speaker 1: Any wonder they're all coming up to the Gold Coast
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Speaker 1: in Brisbane.
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Speaker 2: To live sad working broke. Thank you so much for
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Speaker 2: your company tonight, Jeans, and thank you for your company
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Speaker 2: at home. The Bolt Report is up next with Denika
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Speaker 2: di Giorgio. You'll see me here again tonight at ten
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Speaker 2: pm for the later bait. Good Night,