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- 0:00Picture it, it's October 31st, there's a bowl of candy by the door and a small child dressed
- 0:06as something you can't quite identify is holding out a bag and staring at you. Now, you have
- 0:12two options, hand over the candy or pretend you are not home. Let's be honest, all of us
- 0:20at some point have considered the second one. But why do we do this? Why do we dress up,
- 0:27knock on strangers' doors, and hand out candy. Some people will tell you it's ancient pagan
- 0:33holiday the Church stole. Other people will tell you it's secretly the most Catholic night
- 0:39of the year. This week, we are going to sit on the porch and sort it out. Fair warning,
- 0:45the real story is more interesting than either one.
- 0:59Hi, my name is John O'Connor and this is Everyday Saints. This is a special episode. If this
- 1:05is your first time stopping by, consider yourself invited. Grab a seat, something to drink, and
- 1:11get comfortable. A new saint's story lands here every Thursday and every so often a special
- 1:17like this shows up on a Tuesday. Okay, let's start with the question I'd be asking if I
- 1:23were you. Is Halloween even Catholic? Here's a clue. and it's hiding in plain sight. Halloween
- 1:31isn't really a spooky made-up word. It's short for All Hallows' Eve. Hallow is an old word
- 1:38for holy. You probably said it in the Lord's Prayer, hallowed be thy name. Same word. And
- 1:45hallows was an old way of also saying saints. So Halloween means Holy Evening. More exactly,
- 1:53it's the evening before All Saints' Day. People have been writing All Hallows' for about 500
- 1:59years, so this isn't some candy company's idea. The name of the biggest candy holiday of the
- 2:05year is Christian, all the way down. Round one goes to the church. Now, does that make Halloween
- 2:14a Catholic holiday? Not exactly. It means the name is. We are still working on the rest.
- 2:21Now, why the evening? In the church's way of counting, a big feast starts the night before,
- 2:29which is why Christmas Eve is a thing. That night before is called a vigil, which is a
- 2:35fancy word for staying up, praying, and getting ready. So Halloween is the vigil. It's the
- 2:42warm-up act with costumes. Which brings us to the headliner, All Saints' Day on November 1st.
- 2:52and you might wonder why the church needs a whole day for all of them. Believe it or not,
- 2:57it started as a calendar problem. In the early days, Christians remembered martyrs, people
- 3:03killed for their faith, one at a time, on the anniversary of each death. Then came some truly
- 3:10brutal persecutions by Emperor Diocletian in the 300s, and there were so many martyrs that
- 3:17the calendar ran out of days. So the church did the practical thing and gave them one shared
- 3:23day. And then that day got a renovation. About 1400 years ago, a pope took the Pantheon in
- 3:31Rome, a giant temple built for all the Roman gods, and turned it into a church for all the
- 3:37martyrs. The word Pantheon is Greek for all the gods. So the church kept the building and
- 3:44just changed the guest list. All the gods became all the martyrs. And here's my favorite part.
- 3:51The Pantheon is still a church today. There's Mass there every Sunday. And every Pentecost,
- 3:57firefighters drop rose petals through the round hole in the roof. I mean, come on, just look
- 4:03this up on YouTube. Hundreds of videos of this amazing site. But here's what I love most about
- 4:11All Saints' Day. It isn't just for the famous ones. It's for the saints nobody wrote down.
- 4:17For every Francis of Assisi, there are countless people who quietly did the right thing and
- 4:23never got a statue. The grandmother who prayed, the neighbor who showed up, which is honestly
- 4:30why this show is called Everyday Saints. And it's not only a Catholic thing. The Eastern
- 4:36Orthodox have their own All Saints' Day. And plenty of Protestant churches keep that day
- 4:41too, including the Anglicans, the Lutherans, and the Methodists. They don't all observe
- 4:46it the same way, but if you grew up in one of those churches, you may have celebrated it
- 4:52without knowing the backstory. Then comes November 2nd, All Souls Day, which is a different day
- 5:00with a different job. All Saints' is for the saints in heaven. All Souls' is for all the
- 5:07faithful departed, which means everyone who has died, including the people you love. Here's
- 5:13a part people often miss. The church doesn't claim to know where any particular person is.
- 5:20Your grandpa may already be in heaven, and the same with your old neighbor or the friend who
- 5:25left too soon. They might even be among the saints we just talked about. We don't know,
- 5:31and the church doesn't pretend to. What Catholics believe is that heaven is for those who are
- 5:37completely at peace with God, and that some people who die in God's friendship still need
- 5:43a final cleansing first. Catholics have a name for that, purgatory. Think of purgatory as
- 5:50the last stretch of the road home. It isn't a second chance and it isn't forever. Everyone
- 5:58there is already on their way to heaven and the church teaches that our prayers can help
- 6:04along the way. Most Protestant churches don't accept that teaching. So that's a real difference
- 6:10between Protestants and the Catholics. But you don't have to share the same theology to understand
- 6:16the instinct. When someone you love dies, you want to do something for them. And if they
- 6:22are now in heaven, then your prayer was still an act of love. And that's never wasted. All
- 6:30right, the question many of you have been waiting for. Did the church steal Halloween from the
- 6:35pagans? Here's the popular version. Long before any of this, the Celts had a festival called
- 6:42Samhain. That marked the end of summer. The story goes that the church saw a good party
- 6:48and said, hey, we'll take that and moved all Saints Day to November 1st to compete. Is that
- 6:56possible? Sure. One major encyclopedia says that might be why the date moved. Notice the
- 7:03word might. And the church absolutely did take over pagan places. The Pantheon is proof. But
- 7:11taking over a temple in Rome is something we can document. Taking over Samhain is a guess.
- 7:17Historians who have dug into it point out that we know surprisingly little about what people
- 7:23actually did at Samhain. So where does the picture of ghosts and a festival of the dead come from?
- 7:31A lot of it traces back to one book, The Golden Bough, published in 1890 by a Scottish scholar
- 7:38named James Frazer. It was a huge, famous study of myths and rituals from all over the world,
- 7:45and Frazer argued that Samhain must have been an ancient Celtic festival of the dead. But
- 7:52he didn't have an actual record of one. He reasoned his way there. Lots of cultures honor their
- 7:59dead, he said, and the church took over other pagan holidays, so this must have been one
- 8:04of them. That's a theory, not a document, and it was written long after the fact. Nobody
- 8:11has a time machine. So here's my honest answer. We don't know. Maybe the church was competing
- 8:19with Samhain. Maybe the dates just landed near each other the way some things sometimes do.
- 8:25Think about it. Like if two big parties landed on the same weekend, did one steal from the
- 8:30other or was it just a busy weekend in the neighborhood? Anyone who tells you the church definitely
- 8:36stole it is guessing. And so is anyone who tells you it definitely did not. I'd rather tell
- 8:43you, I don't know, than pretend to be sure. Okay, okay, but where did the candy come from?
- 8:50That, turns out, has a better paper trail. Back in the Middle Ages around All Souls Day, poor
- 8:57people went door to door asking for something called soul cakes, which were small round cakes.
- 9:04In exchange, they promised to pray for the families dead. It was called souling. Picture it. I'll
- 9:11pray for your late grandmother if you give me a cake. Honestly, not too bad of a deal. A
- 9:18few centuries later, kids in Scotland and Ireland were doing something called guising. They dressed
- 9:24up in costumes, went door to door, and performed a song or a joke for a treat. Put those two
- 9:30together and you can see the family resemblance to trick-or-treating. Historians say these
- 9:36are the likely ancestors, but likely is the right word because nobody has drawn a perfectly
- 9:43straight line. It's just a very good hunch. And the jack-o-lantern. Long before pumpkins,
- 9:50people in Ireland and Scotland carved turnips into lanterns. Imagine how scary that looked
- 9:56and how hard it was to carve. But when immigrants came to America, they switched to pumpkins
- 10:02because pumpkins are bigger and easier to carve. Thank goodness, I have two pumpkins on my porch
- 10:09right now begging to be carved up and I'm so glad that they aren't turnips. There's also
- 10:16a folk tale about a man called Stingy Jack who tricked the devil and ended up turned away
- 10:21from both heaven and hell. With nowhere to go, he had to wander in the dark and the devil
- 10:28tossed him a glowing coal to light the way. Jack tucked it inside a hollowed out turnip
- 10:34and carried it like a lantern. Some people say the glowing lantern stood for a soul in purgatory.
- 10:40Maybe. Nobody can prove that one either. So we have to take a quick detour in our discussions
- 10:47on Halloween because people always ask, the Day of the Dead in Mexico falls on the same
- 10:52two days, November 1st and 2nd, but isn't it Mexico's version of Halloween and All Saints
- 10:58Day? Well, no. UNESCO, the United Nations Educational, Scientific and Cultural Organization, describes
- 11:06it as a blend of ancient Indigenous traditions and Catholic feasts. Families set up altars
- 11:12with photos, favorite foods, and bright orange marigolds. Traditionally, November 1st for
- 11:19children who have died, and November 2nd is for adults. It's less run from the ghosts and
- 11:25more come on over we saved you a seat, which if you think about it, It's kind of the same
- 11:31idea as All Souls. Detour is over. So what do Catholics actually do on these days? Honestly,
- 11:40nothing as dramatic as you'd think. November 1st is what you'd call a holy day of obligation,
- 11:46which just means Mass is expected. This year it falls on a Sunday, so most Catholics will
- 11:52be there anyway. On November 2nd, a lot of people visit cemeteries, light candles, and say the
- 11:57names of the people they have lost. And here's a fun fact for my Protestant friends that I
- 12:03found in my studies for this episode. Martin Luther, a German monk, wrote a list of 95 points
- 12:09challenging certain practices in the church, and that moment helped start the Reformation,
- 12:15the movement that led to the creation of Protestant churches. Those 95 points are traditionally
- 12:21dated to October 31st, more than 500 years ago, the same evening as All Hallows' Eve. whether
- 12:29he literally nailed them to a church door or something historians still argue about. But
- 12:33the date has stuck and many Protestant churches mark it as Reformation Day. So there's a lot
- 12:39of history packed into one night. Now, whether your family dresses up on Halloween, skips
- 12:45it, or goes to church instead is all up to you. Catholics land in different places on that
- 12:51and I'm not trying to tell you where to land. I just wanted you to know where the name comes
- 12:56from. and that the night is the eve of a feast for all the saints. All right, back to the
- 13:03porch. Here's what I keep thinking about. Everybody in this story, from the Pope with the Pantheon
- 13:13to the folks with the soul cakes, ended up practically doing the same thing. They lit
- 13:21a little light for the people who came before. A candle in a turnip. A candle on a grave
- 13:28in Mexico. A candle in a church. And a candle in a pumpkin. I don't think that's an accident.
- 13:37I mean, we dress the night up with monsters and candy, but underneath the costumes, it's
- 13:43still about remembering the people who came before us. These three days give us permission
- 13:50to talk about death without making it weird. We spend most of the year acting like it isn't
- 13:56there. And then for a weekend, we light candles and say the names of the people we miss. Remember
- 14:04what the word saint meant in the first place? It just meant Holy One, an ordinary believer,
- 14:10not a statue, a regular person. The church has an official list of saints, but countless,
- 14:18and I mean countless people never made it. The friend who sat with you in the hospital, the
- 14:23coworker who covered for you when things got bad, the teacher who believed in you before
- 14:29you did, none of them got a statue. They just got up the next day and did the next good thing.
- 14:38So here's my challenge for the week or until Thursday's episode. And it's easier than picking
- 14:44out a costume. Think of one person who made you better and never got credit. Say their
- 14:50name out loud. Light a candle. Text someone who knew them. And if they are still around,
- 14:57tell them. And when the kids show up on your front steps this Saturday, remember what's
- 15:03happening. They are asking for candy. You are handing it out. And for about 30 seconds, the
- 15:09whole street is part of one small, very old, slightly sugary tradition. Not bad. And that
- 15:17kid from the beginning, the one dressed up as something nobody can identify? Turns out they
- 15:23are part of a very old tradition they have no idea about. Think about what that porch light
- 15:29means on Halloween. It says, Come on by, we're home, we've got something for you. That's a
- 15:38pretty good picture of these three days. We leave a light on for the people we have lost
- 15:44and a welcome for the people still here. One more thing, if someone you love died this year,
- 15:52this week might feel heavy and that's okay. Praying for the dead is one of the oldest ways
- 15:59people have found to stay close to the ones they miss. It is now time for the closing prayer.
- 16:07Lord, thank you for the saints we know by name, and for the countless many we will never know.
- 16:13Thank you for the people who first taught us how to pray. Remember the ones we've lost and
- 16:18give them rest. And give the rest of us enough light to be a little brighter for somebody
- 16:23else this week. Amen. Well, that is special episode number two. If there's a question about
- 16:31saints or Catholic history, You'd like answered in an episode like this one? Email me at EverydaySaintsShow
- 16:37at gmail.com. A new saint's story is back this Thursday, and if you haven't tapped follow
- 16:42on your podcast platform, now is a good time. So the next one shows up in your library on
- 16:48its own. I'm John O'Connor. Have a fantastic and safe Halloween. And as always, thanks for
- 16:54sitting on the porch with me. I will see you Thursday.