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- 0:00Speaker 1: Fitness mom Missy Beaver's bludgeon dead in the local church
- 0:05Speaker 1: basement just before a fitness class. Good evening, I mean,
- 0:10Speaker 1: sye Grace, this is crime stories. I want to thank
- 0:13Speaker 1: you for being with.
- 0:14Speaker 2: Us, exercise mom, Missy Beavers stabbed dead?
- 0:24Speaker 3: Who is this person? How did they arrive? How did
- 0:27Speaker 3: they get away without even being seen?
- 0:30Speaker 1: The time of the day, even the weather outside suggests
- 0:35Speaker 1: this was a targeted murder.
- 0:37Speaker 4: So this is our little shrine in honor of my mom.
- 0:42Speaker 4: And we just have a couple of family photos laid out.
- 0:45Speaker 4: This is probably our one, actually one and only family
- 0:48Speaker 4: photo that we have, and we're all pretty young in it.
- 0:52Speaker 1: A couple of weeks ago. Both of y'all are busy,
- 0:54Speaker 1: so I had no bid to hang out with.
- 0:58Speaker 5: I like went to Target and I saw one of
- 1:00Speaker 5: my friends and her mom and it was like such
- 1:03Speaker 5: a nice day outside, it was like a Saturday. And
- 1:07Speaker 5: I got in the corners her cry because I was like,
- 1:12Speaker 5: oh my god, like I forgot that, Like people do that,
- 1:15Speaker 5: Like people like hang out with their moms and like
- 1:18Speaker 5: co shopping and stuff like that.
- 1:20Speaker 1: That is heartbreaking. That's Missy Beaver's daughter missing her mom.
- 1:26Speaker 1: She said, she saw another mom and daughter she knew,
- 1:29Speaker 1: and they went in the car and cried because it
- 1:33Speaker 1: hit her. That's what other people do. That from our
- 1:37Speaker 1: friends at CBS, the case of Missy Beaver's Unsolved, straight
- 1:44Speaker 1: out to special Guests, longtime colleague and friend Alan Duke,
- 1:48Speaker 1: investigative journalist, editor in chief, Lead Stories dot Com. Alan,
- 1:53Speaker 1: thank you for being with us. Who would have thought
- 1:57Speaker 1: that this much later you and I would still be
- 2:01Speaker 1: trying to solve the Missy Beaver's case.
- 2:04Speaker 6: It's heartbreaking. You know, back nine ten years ago, I
- 2:09Speaker 6: was talking with Brandon Beavers and he was thinking it
- 2:14Speaker 6: wouldn't take that long. You know, after two or three
- 2:16Speaker 6: months has started to get frustrating, and to go on
- 2:20Speaker 6: for a decade for these children to have grown up.
- 2:24Speaker 6: I think the youngest was in the second grade when
- 2:26Speaker 6: this happened, and I suppose she's probably about to graduate
- 2:30Speaker 6: or has graduated from high school by now. They're talking
- 2:33Speaker 6: about getting married and all of this without their mother.
- 2:37Speaker 6: It's still a mystery. Who was that person in that
- 2:40Speaker 6: makeshift police swat gear, walking with a hammer and a
- 2:46Speaker 6: pick down the hallway of their church and then killing
- 2:50Speaker 6: Missy Beavers. It's unbelievable that all of the scientific, the
- 2:54Speaker 6: forensic analysis that you can do not has not developed
- 3:00Speaker 6: a solution to this. We've had other cases like this,
- 3:03Speaker 6: but but this one is the one that really sticks
- 3:05Speaker 6: in my heart.
- 3:06Speaker 7: The suspect ride of the church first had forced entry
- 3:09Speaker 7: into the location. Missy arrived a few minutes later.
- 3:14Speaker 8: Excuse me.
- 3:15Speaker 7: First time surveillance captured the suspect on video was about
- 3:18Speaker 7: ten minutes before four am. Miss Beavers arrived at about
- 3:22Speaker 7: four sixteen in the parking lot and entered the church
- 3:25Speaker 7: immediately a few minutes later she was inside the church,
- 3:29Speaker 7: not realizing the intruder was already inside, and shortly thereafter
- 3:33Speaker 7: she was murdered inside of the church. I'm not going
- 3:36Speaker 7: to discuss the details of how Miss Beavers was murdered.
- 3:40Speaker 7: Our communication center received some calls to nine to one
- 3:43Speaker 7: to one at about five am reporting the incident to
- 3:46Speaker 7: a Middle Othi police department.
- 3:49Speaker 6: Just want to.
- 3:49Speaker 7: Reiterate that our top priority is finding missus killer.
- 3:52Speaker 1: Straight back out to Alan, joining us editor in chief
- 3:56Speaker 1: Lead Stories dot Com, Alan, Let's start at the beginning.
- 4:02Speaker 1: Missy Beavers ultimate mom, gladiator mom. Remember that she led,
- 4:08Speaker 1: She didn't just attend she led the gladiator style aerobics
- 4:13Speaker 1: workout there at the mid Lothian Church, which, coming from
- 4:17Speaker 1: a spot in the middle of nowhere, rural Bibb County,
- 4:21Speaker 1: we had to drop twenty five minutes to get to
- 4:22Speaker 1: McDonald's in the middle of nowhere, mid Lothian, Texas, zero
- 4:30Speaker 1: crime rate. She's at the church, mid Lothian Church, four
- 4:35Speaker 1: o'clock in the morning to prepare for one of those
- 4:39Speaker 1: excruciating mom workouts that they have before they wake the
- 4:44Speaker 1: children up and before they go to work. Uh agony.
- 4:49Speaker 1: But she loved it, and so did all of her students.
- 4:52Speaker 1: So she is there at a church in the middle
- 4:55Speaker 1: of nowhere for a m It's dark outside, okay, I
- 5:00Speaker 1: said the scene pick it up.
- 5:03Speaker 6: Well, there's actually some video that tells us what happened
- 5:07Speaker 6: before her murder, including outside of the church. There was
- 5:11Speaker 6: the video that you and I examined so closely nine
- 5:15Speaker 6: or so years ago of the Ultima that was driving
- 5:18Speaker 6: through the gun store parking lot just up Highway to
- 5:21Speaker 6: eighty seven, pulled in, did some mysterious parking and turning
- 5:26Speaker 6: around wondering what were they doing. Notice it's raining in
- 5:29Speaker 6: the middle of this, and eventually The theory is that
- 5:33Speaker 6: this car, this ultima, because of the timing of it
- 5:36Speaker 6: and the remoteness of all of this, was probably related
- 5:41Speaker 6: to this murder. But where did the car park. I've
- 5:45Speaker 6: looked at the aerial the aerials of this area. It's
- 5:50Speaker 6: surrounded by woods. Unless you pull into the parking lot
- 5:53Speaker 6: and walk into the church, you're going to have to
- 5:55Speaker 6: walk in through woods, that kind of thing. It is raining,
- 5:59Speaker 6: it was messy, and it was early in the morning,
- 6:01Speaker 6: but this is remote inside the church. Speaking of looking
- 6:07Speaker 6: at video, just today I started looking for the first
- 6:11Speaker 6: time in several years at the interior video, and I
- 6:14Speaker 6: noticed some things Nancy, I don't remember noticing. If you
- 6:19Speaker 6: watch him walking or he or her walking down the
- 6:22Speaker 6: hall that hammer is in the left hand there, opening
- 6:27Speaker 6: those dutch doors and then continuing down. And then what's
- 6:32Speaker 6: odd about this video is in a couple of seconds
- 6:35Speaker 6: the video freezes, it stops, and you see him the
- 6:39Speaker 6: person again, walking back. But one of the odd things
- 6:42Speaker 6: is that the forty two second mark, as the killer
- 6:47Speaker 6: approaches a door in the hallway. For the first time
- 6:50Speaker 6: today I noticed another tool which could have been the
- 6:53Speaker 6: murder weapon, a pick. It's not the hammer, that I
- 6:56Speaker 6: was thinking was used to kill Missy Beavers. There is
- 7:00Speaker 6: a pick that is in the right hand, while the
- 7:03Speaker 6: hammer is in the left hand, while the killer right
- 7:07Speaker 6: right here, while the killer is trying to pry open
- 7:10Speaker 6: that door.
- 7:11Speaker 1: Okay to Joseph Scott Morgan joining us and everybody on
- 7:16Speaker 1: the panel, please jump in. Just got Professor Forensics, Jacksonville
- 7:20Speaker 1: State University. He is the author of Blood Beneath My
- 7:23Speaker 1: Feet on Amazon, and he is the star of a
- 7:26Speaker 1: hit podcast, Body Bags with Joseph Scott Morgan. But for
- 7:31Speaker 1: our purposes, he is a death investigator who I first
- 7:35Speaker 1: met when he was at the Fulton County Medical Examiner's
- 7:37Speaker 1: office many years ago when I was prosecuting, and he
- 7:40Speaker 1: has over ten thousand death scenes under his belt. You
- 7:44Speaker 1: know what's interesting, Well, everything that Alan Duke says is interesting,
- 7:49Speaker 1: but the fact that every time you re examine a
- 7:53Speaker 1: case you find something new. I've always found that to
- 7:56Speaker 1: be true. It can be a tiny tidbit, but something
- 7:59Speaker 1: new or you see in a different way. Did you
- 8:01Speaker 1: hear what he just said about a pick?
- 8:04Speaker 8: Yep, yep, And it actually fits in Nancy with the
- 8:09Speaker 8: cause of death that they've listed for Missy all these years.
- 8:13Speaker 8: Actually multiple puncture wounds, Nancy and Alan's mentioning a pick
- 8:18Speaker 8: well that would fit in, that would fit in with
- 8:21Speaker 8: the pathology findings. Missy sustained multiple puncture wounds to the
- 8:29Speaker 8: head and also to the chest, Nancy. So that gives
- 8:33Speaker 8: you an indication, I think from a death investigative perspective,
- 8:37Speaker 8: in the dynamics of what happened to her, where she
- 8:40Speaker 8: was positioned, how she was positioned, and also how the
- 8:44Speaker 8: perpetrator was positioned relative to her when this individual savagely
- 8:50Speaker 8: murdered her. Nancy.
- 8:51Speaker 1: Doctor Jerald Utter is with US clinical psychologist specializing in
- 8:55Speaker 1: psychological evaluations and risk assessments for individuals in the justice system.
- 9:02Speaker 1: Author of Mainlining Philly Survival, Hope, Resisting Drug Addiction, and
- 9:07Speaker 1: after Shock, How Past Events shake up your life Today
- 9:12Speaker 1: and more. She is producer and star of Utter Nonsense,
- 9:16Speaker 1: a documentary. Doctor Gerlyn, thank you for being with us.
- 9:20Speaker 1: I find it very interesting and I'm sure it means something.
- 9:24Speaker 1: It's probative, it proves something, the cause of death, the
- 9:29Speaker 1: manner of death. She was attacked multiple times. Now hold on,
- 9:35Speaker 1: let me give you some more facts, Alan Duke, isn't
- 9:38Speaker 1: it true? That At first people suggested this was a
- 9:42Speaker 1: burglary of a church gone wrong. What were they going
- 9:45Speaker 1: to steal the video equipment? Please? That never works in
- 9:49Speaker 1: any local church ever. But why kill her so many
- 9:54Speaker 1: times over with a blunt object the way they did?
- 9:59Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean, the only thing that this burglar took
- 10:02Speaker 6: was Missy Beaver's life. There's nothing reported stolen from the church.
- 10:07Speaker 6: And as you watch the video, it doesn't look like
- 10:09Speaker 6: a typical burglar. It looks like a search just looking
- 10:12Speaker 6: around familiarizing yourself with the scene, and this burglar came
- 10:17Speaker 6: prepared with murder weapons. If you notice that pick I
- 10:20Speaker 6: was mentioning, ends up in a tool belt on the
- 10:24Speaker 6: killer's hip, the right hip.
- 10:27Speaker 1: Let's start that video again. As you're speaking, allent, repeat
- 10:31Speaker 1: what you just sat. I find it very significant, right,
- 10:34Speaker 1: So this burglar, if that's what it was, the only
- 10:39Speaker 1: thing the burglar stole was Missy Beaver's life.
- 10:41Speaker 6: As you watched this person going up and down the hall,
- 10:46Speaker 6: I only recently noticed that there was a pick. It
- 10:49Speaker 6: was hanging from the apparently the belt and approaching this
- 10:53Speaker 6: door trying to pry it open. You will see the
- 10:57Speaker 6: hammer being used to try to pry it open while
- 10:59Speaker 6: there is a pick. It's at the forty two second
- 11:01Speaker 6: mark on the YouTube video. You will find that there
- 11:05Speaker 6: is a pick in the right hand, which I didn't
- 11:11Speaker 6: notice it before, and it kind of shocked me this
- 11:14Speaker 6: week when I was looking at this video and said,
- 11:17Speaker 6: why did I even think about that? I assume the
- 11:19Speaker 6: police did.
- 11:21Speaker 1: Let's assume that, so it's a right handed purp. But
- 11:25Speaker 1: I don't know why, Alan Duke, you even suggest this
- 11:29Speaker 1: is a burglary. The purp and I'm not saying the
- 11:33Speaker 1: guy because I have serious questions as to whether it
- 11:36Speaker 1: is a guy. But the purp lay in wait. If
- 11:39Speaker 1: they wanted something, go get it and leave. And you know, Alan,
- 11:43Speaker 1: as you and I have discussed many many times, all
- 11:45Speaker 1: the way back to our HLN days, with burglaries gone wrong.
- 11:51Speaker 1: In other words, the burglar comes in and somebody comes
- 11:53Speaker 1: inbody comes home where they find someone in there, they leave.
- 11:58Speaker 1: The statistics are overwhelming. Burglar comes into typically steal and
- 12:03Speaker 1: when they're confronted with a person they high talent. Like
- 12:06Speaker 1: in Guthree, for Pete's sake, that was not a burglary
- 12:09Speaker 1: gone wrong. The burglar didn't coming and go oh my
- 12:12Speaker 1: stars missus Guthrie's home. Let's take an eighty four year
- 12:14Speaker 1: old woman with us. It's just ridiculous. Same thing here.
- 12:17Speaker 1: Is this not a burglary, it's a killing.
- 12:21Speaker 6: I had two burglars come into my home a year
- 12:24Speaker 6: ago and in our garage. My wife and I went
- 12:27Speaker 6: down confronted them. These were two young men about thirty
- 12:31Speaker 6: years old. They could have beaten those that out of
- 12:33Speaker 6: me and my wife, but they didn't. They fled. I
- 12:36Speaker 6: got some great video of it too. They were afraid.
- 12:39Speaker 6: They did not want to be of course you did.
- 12:41Speaker 1: Did you give yourself the very first interview?
- 12:45Speaker 6: Yes, I did.
- 12:46Speaker 1: Alan. That just bears out what I'm saying. This was planned.
- 12:50Speaker 1: Who's driving around in a parking lot in the pouring
- 12:53Speaker 1: rain at four am, and that you know is the
- 12:56Speaker 1: same person. The population there is what three or four thousand?
- 13:02Speaker 6: They could have known missing was going to be there
- 13:04Speaker 6: because guess what the gladiator's class was posted where on Facebook?
- 13:09Speaker 1: Okay, doctor jerreln Utter joining us. I was coming to
- 13:12Speaker 1: you earlier, doctor Utter, because the number of blows which
- 13:17Speaker 1: included her torso all over her, that is killing her
- 13:23Speaker 1: multiple times over. If it had been a burglary, a
- 13:27Speaker 1: overwhelmingly the burglar would leave. They're not there to kill somebody,
- 13:33Speaker 1: They're there to get something. And what are you really
- 13:35Speaker 1: going to get? At a church they clean out the
- 13:38Speaker 1: offering plate immediately after the offering's taken. There's nothing of
- 13:42Speaker 1: value there. What do they want the VHS equipment? No,
- 13:47Speaker 1: And plus the killer was lying in wait waiting for
- 13:54Speaker 1: Missy Beavers. They could have taken whatever they wanted and left,
- 13:57Speaker 1: but they didn't.
- 14:01Speaker 3: Yeah, so, Nancy, I watched the videos, I read the articles,
- 14:06Speaker 3: and one of the first things that I noticed was
- 14:08Speaker 3: how rural the actual area is to your point, So
- 14:12Speaker 3: no one is going to this area without a plan.
- 14:15Speaker 3: So to me, it feels very planned and very calculated.
- 14:19Speaker 3: Also the fact that the message was on Facebook promoting
- 14:22Speaker 3: the class that miss Beaver's taught, So anybody that's going
- 14:26Speaker 3: to this area is going there with intention. If it
- 14:29Speaker 3: was a burglary, to your point, they would take what
- 14:31Speaker 3: they want to get and leave. If they were to
- 14:33Speaker 3: run into her, if it was what we would call
- 14:35Speaker 3: her traditional burglary, they would probably get scared, run away,
- 14:38Speaker 3: or if they had a weapon or you know, they
- 14:41Speaker 3: would try to maybe you know, push the person or
- 14:43Speaker 3: maim them to an extent so they can leave and
- 14:45Speaker 3: get out of there. What you're looking at as far
- 14:48Speaker 3: as her manner of death is what we call overkill.
- 14:51Speaker 3: So she wasn't just maimed in order for them to
- 14:54Speaker 3: burglarize something to leave. It was very personal. It felt
- 14:57Speaker 3: like a very personal attack about her head and about
- 15:01Speaker 3: her chest. So the person that did this from a
- 15:04Speaker 3: psychological perspective, is somebody that felt they had a connection
- 15:08Speaker 3: to her, maybe had a connection to her, and that
- 15:10Speaker 3: she was very much targeted because it was overkill. They
- 15:14Speaker 3: wanted to create pain, they wanted to hurt her, they
- 15:17Speaker 3: wanted to hurt you know, potentially folks that knew her
- 15:19Speaker 3: were in her world. So absolutely right, not a burglary.
- 15:23Speaker 3: Definitely something that we would consider overkilled due to a
- 15:25Speaker 3: personal connection that this person may have felt to Miss Beaver's.
- 15:32Speaker 9: I got my phone rang at about five am and
- 15:40Speaker 9: it was one of the one of the campers who
- 15:44Speaker 9: of me and Missy have known for a long time,
- 15:47Speaker 9: and he said, Brandon, you've got to come down here.
- 15:50Speaker 9: He said there's been an accident. And I said, what
- 15:52Speaker 9: do you mean. I said, I'm not at home and
- 15:57Speaker 9: he said, you know you need to come come here.
- 15:59Speaker 9: There's he's you know. I got another phone call from
- 16:02Speaker 9: the scene from a female mid Lothian officer and she
- 16:09Speaker 9: said that Missy's no longer with us and I didn't know.
- 16:15Speaker 6: Did you did it register that?
- 16:17Speaker 1: She meant like Missy had died or was killed.
- 16:21Speaker 9: That's we went in there, my dad and I both
- 16:24Speaker 9: my dad went there kind of as in a support role,
- 16:28Speaker 9: and we met in one room and they started asking
- 16:36Speaker 9: some questions. You know that we're pointed, you know, hey,
- 16:39Speaker 9: you know, where have you been? You know, you know whatever,
- 16:43Speaker 9: and then they left the room. I said, if there's
- 16:46Speaker 9: anything that I can contribute to this to find out
- 16:50Speaker 9: what happened? Who's responsible? I said, I'm not. I'm not
- 16:55Speaker 9: going to run from it.
- 16:56Speaker 1: That is Missy Beaver's husband, Brandon Beaver, speaking to Scott Brook's,
- 17:00Speaker 1: a president at the Waxahachie son Alan, do you let's
- 17:04Speaker 1: talk about the husband, which is typically the first place
- 17:08Speaker 1: you start a murder investigation when a married woman is
- 17:12Speaker 1: found dead.
- 17:14Speaker 6: Well, the position he was in, he still had to
- 17:18Speaker 6: raise his three children, he had to go on or
- 17:21Speaker 6: try to recreate this normal life without his wife, and
- 17:26Speaker 6: added to that is the suspicion. You know, we were
- 17:30Speaker 6: calling him. Everybody in the world was calling him. His
- 17:33Speaker 6: neighbors were suspicious, looking at him, side eyed perhaps, and
- 17:38Speaker 6: he was getting letters from people he didn't know accusing
- 17:41Speaker 6: him of something. Yet I've talked to him several times,
- 17:44Speaker 6: and I can tell you I did not get any
- 17:47Speaker 6: indication that he was anything but sincere and the police
- 17:52Speaker 6: investigators obviously didn't have any timeline or any DNA or
- 17:56Speaker 6: any other evidence to connect him. Now, I don't think
- 18:00Speaker 6: they've ruled anybody out as a suspect. They say that,
- 18:03Speaker 6: but I don't see any reason to believe that Brandon
- 18:07Speaker 6: was a suspect. I think just the size of the
- 18:11Speaker 6: person in the video is not doesn't exactly match him.
- 18:15Speaker 6: So and the.
- 18:16Speaker 1: Timing, no, it doesn't match him at all. Let's take
- 18:19Speaker 1: a look at it, Alan Duke. He's a tall guy,
- 18:22Speaker 1: and I have watched him walk and he does not
- 18:27Speaker 1: walk like this. Look at how the purp is walking.
- 18:31Speaker 1: That is not at all even remotely similar to the
- 18:34Speaker 1: way that Brandon Beavers walks. And I've got to tell you,
- 18:38Speaker 1: I put Brandon Beavers under the microscope and I kept
- 18:41Speaker 1: him there for months and months until I compared the gate.
- 18:48Speaker 1: The gate of the purp never breaks. It's this gate,
- 18:52Speaker 1: and that is not how Brandon Beavers walks simply put.
- 18:57Speaker 6: Yeah, this killer is between five in five seven. If
- 19:01Speaker 6: it's a man, it's a short man. If it's a woman,
- 19:05Speaker 6: about average, perhaps, but we don't even know that. But
- 19:09Speaker 6: Brandon doesn't even know that. I think he suspects. The
- 19:12Speaker 6: last I've heard, he suspects it was actually a woman
- 19:15Speaker 6: who killed his wife.
- 19:16Speaker 1: I suspected it too, and I'll tell you why. At
- 19:19Speaker 1: a certain point, the purp throws out a hip and
- 19:24Speaker 1: it's just a feminine gesture. And I know I'm stereotyping,
- 19:29Speaker 1: but I know what I know, and that's my observation.
- 19:31Speaker 1: Joe Scott Morgan, let's talk about the scene. Let's talk
- 19:36Speaker 1: about the crime scene and what if anything we can
- 19:40Speaker 1: glean And is there a possibility, as in Nancy Guthrie's case,
- 19:45Speaker 1: that the initial scene was botched. I hate to even
- 19:49Speaker 1: say that.
- 19:51Speaker 8: Yeah, I suppose that anything's possible here at this point
- 19:55Speaker 8: in time. Looking back on this case, Nancy, I first
- 19:59Speaker 8: started covering this with you at Hilen all those years ago,
- 20:03Speaker 8: and you know, we had several thoughts about this. We've
- 20:06Speaker 8: got broken class at the scene which this individual was
- 20:09Speaker 8: walking about. If I remember correctly, I might be misremembering.
- 20:13Speaker 8: The actually knocked out a couple of windows with this
- 20:15Speaker 8: instrument that was left behind.
- 20:17Speaker 1: I hope that they can please please hold on put it.
- 20:22Speaker 1: Jos got up. You know that was just a staging.
- 20:27Speaker 1: Let's make it look like a break in b as
- 20:30Speaker 1: it was not. That's no, that didn't happen. I mean,
- 20:33Speaker 1: I agree with you, there was glass. I think it was.
- 20:36Speaker 8: My point. Forensically, what I'm thinking about is if this,
- 20:41Speaker 8: if these items were touched anyway, if that instrument they
- 20:44Speaker 8: were using transferred anything onto the surfaces that it was
- 20:48Speaker 8: making contact with, If this person had potentially handled that
- 20:53Speaker 8: instrument ungloved in some way, some kind of trace element
- 20:57Speaker 8: may have been transferred over. You know, when you see them,
- 21:00Speaker 8: they're completely clad and this garb that they have. You know,
- 21:05Speaker 8: one of the things that we think about a trace elements, hair,
- 21:08Speaker 8: skin cells, all these sorts of things that have fallen
- 21:11Speaker 8: off they've made contact with, right Nancy. And also I'm
- 21:15Speaker 8: thinking about these injuries that Missy sustained, going back to
- 21:19Speaker 8: my earlier comment about puncture wounds. If this instrument. Obviously,
- 21:25Speaker 8: if that is the instruments making contact with her body,
- 21:28Speaker 8: did it leave anything behind? It goes back to Lecarte's principle,
- 21:32Speaker 8: right every contact leaves a trace, does it go back
- 21:35Speaker 8: to anything specifically matching that weapon? I'm thinking tool marks.
- 21:40Speaker 8: I'm also thinking trace evidence here, and how much do
- 21:43Speaker 8: they still have retained? How stable is this evidence that
- 21:46Speaker 8: they have, because there's going to be a lot of
- 21:48Speaker 8: people that are going to be picking over this evidence.
- 21:50Speaker 8: Who do they allow to have this? I'm hoping, and
- 21:54Speaker 8: you know, maybe it's a little boy. I mean, I
- 21:56Speaker 8: hope that Texas Rangers are on this case because I
- 22:00Speaker 8: would really hope that the Texas Department of Public Safety
- 22:03Speaker 8: will form up maybe a brand new group of cold
- 22:07Speaker 8: case investigators. To Allen's point earlier and to what you
- 22:10Speaker 8: said to him, it's always better to get a new
- 22:14Speaker 8: generation of people that can put their eyes on things,
- 22:16Speaker 8: because they very well might see something Nancy, they haven't
- 22:19Speaker 8: seen before that the old investigators have not seen. I
- 22:22Speaker 8: don't even know how many of these people are still around.
- 22:24Speaker 8: And you can't tell me that the little Mendelothian, Texas
- 22:28Speaker 8: Police Department is running down all the leads. This is
- 22:31Speaker 8: a broad spectrum event that took place. This is a
- 22:34Speaker 8: targeted event. This is somebody that knew her. I think
- 22:38Speaker 8: this is somebody that wanted to brutalize her because Nancy,
- 22:41Speaker 8: with an instrument like this, it would essentially take one blow.
- 22:45Speaker 8: That's not what we're talking about. We're talking about penetrative
- 22:48Speaker 8: crushing injuries here. That was pure and total violence.
- 22:57Speaker 7: Release some additional surveillance footage from inside the church just
- 23:00Speaker 7: a few minutes ago, and that could be found on
- 23:02Speaker 7: our social media sites. We really do believe that somebody
- 23:06Speaker 7: still knows that this person is out there. Somebody knows
- 23:09Speaker 7: who this person is and haven't yet come forward. We're
- 23:12Speaker 7: convinced of that, and we ask the public to analyze
- 23:15Speaker 7: the footage once again. Watch the mannerisms of walking style
- 23:18Speaker 7: of the suspect. If they have any information, please contact us.
- 23:22Speaker 1: Alan Duke, that is Kevin Johnson, Assistant Chief Midlothian PD. Alan,
- 23:28Speaker 1: He's right, somebody does know. Let's talk about the marriage problems,
- 23:33Speaker 1: and again I'm convinced that the person walking around that
- 23:37Speaker 1: church is not the husband. What can you tell me
- 23:41Speaker 1: about financial problems and more important sex affairs?
- 23:46Speaker 6: Well, like many couples. They have financial problems. Email messages
- 23:52Speaker 6: showed that. But I think most interesting not long before
- 23:56Speaker 6: this happened, just a matter of weeks missing taking a trip.
- 24:00Speaker 6: I think it was to San Diego on a fitness trip,
- 24:04Speaker 6: and had been with some people there. There's some speculation
- 24:06Speaker 6: about that one of the most mysterious things were linked
- 24:10Speaker 6: in messages from this man who had been exchanging flirtatious
- 24:16Speaker 6: LinkedIn messages with Missy. My understanding is that he might
- 24:21Speaker 6: have been ruled out, but still in my mind that
- 24:25Speaker 6: is suspicious. Maybe not him, but maybe somebody connected to
- 24:28Speaker 6: that person was upset about what was going on.
- 24:34Speaker 1: Okay, why are you dancing around the subject? Were they
- 24:37Speaker 1: having sex affairs? Simple?
- 24:39Speaker 6: Yes, No, The messages are called flirtatious. I think that's
- 24:43Speaker 6: the best. We don't know. I don't know if they were.
- 24:47Speaker 6: You can only suppose it what was going on. You
- 24:51Speaker 6: know that does happen in marriages sometimes, and it does
- 24:56Speaker 6: lead to murders sometimes, but of course most no, I
- 25:00Speaker 6: would hope.
- 25:01Speaker 1: Dave mac joining US Crime Stories investigative reporter I recalled
- 25:05Speaker 1: distinctly at the time sex affairs were alleged, Dave Ellen,
- 25:11Speaker 1: do I don't care. I don't care who's sleeping with who,
- 25:15Speaker 1: cats and dogs sleeping together, don't care. I'm not the
- 25:19Speaker 1: church lady. I'm trying to get information regarding a potential
- 25:24Speaker 1: motive so I can get to the killer. I don't care.
- 25:28Speaker 1: Who's doing what with who, doesn't matter, Dave mac were
- 25:32Speaker 1: they having sex affairs?
- 25:34Speaker 10: According to a search warrant released my law enforcement, Missy
- 25:39Speaker 10: Beavers was allegedly having an affair.
- 25:41Speaker 1: What about him, Brandon Beavers?
- 25:43Speaker 10: They say affairs plural meaning law enforcement, But I'm not
- 25:47Speaker 10: seeing anything on Brandon specifically having an affair. The couple
- 25:51Speaker 10: had serious financial struggles that also came out during the investigation,
- 25:56Speaker 10: and they had text messages back and forth between Brandon
- 25:59Speaker 10: and Missy about their financial issues. The other external to
- 26:03Speaker 10: the marriage, intimate relationships, seem to be on Missy's side
- 26:08Speaker 10: of things.
- 26:09Speaker 1: Okay, not judging, don't care. I'm trying to get to
- 26:13Speaker 1: a potential motive because to me, Alan Duke, let's see
- 26:17Speaker 1: that video again. This is the best thing we've got
- 26:19Speaker 1: in the case. Never have gotten any substantial DNA nothing.
- 26:25Speaker 1: Keep on the video. You've got a slew footed killer.
- 26:30Speaker 1: Toes point out, they're short around five to two to
- 26:35Speaker 1: five seven, the way they walk. I'm just telling you,
- 26:41Speaker 1: I think it's a woman. I've always thought it was
- 26:44Speaker 1: a woman. What is the motive. It's not a sex attack,
- 26:48Speaker 1: it's not a theft, it's not a burglary. So what
- 26:52Speaker 1: would the motive be? Anger? Hate? Revenge Alan Duke over
- 26:57Speaker 1: an alleged affair between Missy Beaver and a woman's husband.
- 27:03Speaker 6: It's what's been in my mind for all these years
- 27:06Speaker 6: is that that is the most obvious thing because it happens,
- 27:11Speaker 6: and it's a mystery to me as to why the
- 27:15Speaker 6: Midlothian Police haven't been able to get to the bottom
- 27:18Speaker 6: of that. Keep in mind about every two years they've
- 27:20Speaker 6: changed investigators, which may be good, may be bad. But
- 27:24Speaker 6: the one that took over in twenty eighteen, Sergeant Vaughn
- 27:28Speaker 6: Andy Vaughn, is no longer even a detective there. He's
- 27:32Speaker 6: in charge of support services for the department, which is
- 27:34Speaker 6: an administrative thing. If you look at his resumes with the
- 27:37Speaker 6: other resumes, what was their qualifications really? To dig into this,
- 27:42Speaker 6: I hate to say this, but this was a small
- 27:44Speaker 6: town department. Joe can certainly speak to this. My question
- 27:49Speaker 6: is I've always wondered, also, what did they do at
- 27:53Speaker 6: the scene that might have compromised the scene? It was raining?
- 27:57Speaker 6: Where were their footprints? Why couldn't they they get something?
- 28:00Speaker 6: Now the advances in a decade in DNA testing. I mean,
- 28:05Speaker 6: I'll send in my DNA if it helps the case.
- 28:08Speaker 6: Everybody seems to have sent their DNA in and they're
- 28:12Speaker 6: not able to track anything. What are they doing? Why
- 28:14Speaker 6: after ten years, hasn't the forensic science advanced to the
- 28:18Speaker 6: point that we can solve this?
- 28:20Speaker 1: And I also wonder how often they're sending what they
- 28:22Speaker 1: do have in for repeat testing. Okay, back to what
- 28:27Speaker 1: you're saying to Doctor Jeralin Utter joining us a clinical
- 28:32Speaker 1: psychologist specializing in forensic cases. Doctor Jerlin the mode of
- 28:38Speaker 1: death repeat stabbings, potentially with a pickaxe or a pick
- 28:46Speaker 1: to the head, very often in revenge or anger killing.
- 28:51Speaker 1: Specifically when women are the victim. Their beauty is destroyed,
- 28:56Speaker 1: their face is desecrated. Think about kill gonsolves and Mattie Morgan,
- 29:03Speaker 1: Brian Coberger kill them, stab them, including in their faces.
- 29:11Speaker 1: That's horrific to even imagine some of their teeth were
- 29:16Speaker 1: actually dislodged. He was desecrating their beauty because of his
- 29:22Speaker 1: repressed sex problems. According to some experts, does this seem
- 29:28Speaker 1: like an angry wife Hale bent on revenge?
- 29:34Speaker 3: This this definitely seems like someone that wants to inflict
- 29:37Speaker 3: pain and to your point, desecrate her. Because again I'll
- 29:41Speaker 3: make the statement we referenced it as overkill. It wasn't
- 29:44Speaker 3: like they were just trying to kill her and move on.
- 29:47Speaker 3: They wanted to inflict pain. And then even if she
- 29:51Speaker 3: died quickly, and Joe Morgan's the one that can answer that,
- 29:53Speaker 3: they wanted to mangle her, you know, her face, her chest.
- 29:57Speaker 3: That's what you want to pay attention to, because maybe
- 30:00Speaker 3: they are trying to desecrate her beauty and you know,
- 30:03Speaker 3: make it so there's a close casket and really really
- 30:06Speaker 3: hurt her and maim her. But another thing that I
- 30:09Speaker 3: was thinking, and again, Nancy, this is just the thought.
- 30:13Speaker 3: We're surmising or hypothesizing that this could be a female.
- 30:16Speaker 3: But this female could also be the one that she
- 30:19Speaker 3: may have had a relationship with. We don't know. We're
- 30:22Speaker 3: making the assumption that this could be an angry wife.
- 30:24Speaker 3: But also let's just be opening.
- 30:26Speaker 1: Okay, I've got it on good authority that all that
- 30:30Speaker 1: her affair was with a male. But you're right to
- 30:34Speaker 1: pursue every possible avenue you have to, and if you don't,
- 30:39Speaker 1: you'll hear about it at trial. Hey, did you focus
- 30:42Speaker 1: on my client first? Did you get tunnel vision? Did
- 30:44Speaker 1: you ever look at this? Did you ever look at that?
- 30:46Speaker 1: So they have to investigate exactly what you just said
- 30:50Speaker 1: to you. Joe Scott Morgan following up on what doctor
- 30:53Speaker 1: jeralden Utter just said. The manner of death. Wow, that
- 30:59Speaker 1: many blows to her head, her torso, including her breasts.
- 31:05Speaker 1: What is that telling you? You've seen this before.
- 31:09Speaker 8: It's overkilled, Nancy, particularly with a sharp instrument. Okay, So
- 31:13Speaker 8: remember what I said earlier about we can get an
- 31:16Speaker 8: idea of the physical relationship. And I'm talking about it
- 31:19Speaker 8: as a crime scene, all right, just to qualify that
- 31:22Speaker 8: relative to the perpetrator and Missy, I think that she
- 31:26Speaker 8: would have had to have been on her back because
- 31:28Speaker 8: they're talking about her sustaining these wounds to the chest.
- 31:31Speaker 8: This goes to this idea that maybe you know they're
- 31:35Speaker 8: saying head that could mean face. And I say one
- 31:38Speaker 8: other thing too, Nancy, When I look at this individual
- 31:42Speaker 8: kind of ambulate around first, off, they pronate, which means
- 31:45Speaker 8: they turn in their feet. They're walking on the balls
- 31:48Speaker 8: of their feet. If you look at the right leg,
- 31:50Speaker 8: it looks as though there could potentially be some kind
- 31:52Speaker 8: of existent injury because even though they both feet pronate,
- 31:57Speaker 8: the one on the right looks like they favored that
- 32:00Speaker 8: leg as well. Another bit here. This person is a
- 32:03Speaker 8: real slob, whoever they are. They're dressed also in riot
- 32:07Speaker 8: gear because what this is, what this is when you
- 32:10Speaker 8: see them, they're carrying around a lot of weight. This
- 32:13Speaker 8: is very bulky. They've got a vest on. It looks
- 32:16Speaker 8: like they've got a helmet on. They had to have
- 32:19Speaker 8: snuck up on Missy. Missy. You know you showed that
- 32:22Speaker 8: image just a second ago of Missy climbing that rope.
- 32:27Speaker 8: She is in top shade. Okay, this person is not
- 32:33Speaker 8: going to go face to face with her because they're moving.
- 32:37Speaker 8: They almost look like the micheline man. Okay, and they're
- 32:40Speaker 8: having to attack her. This is a very dynamic environment, Nancy.
- 32:44Speaker 8: This person is easily i think identifiable just visually you
- 32:49Speaker 8: begin to do gate analysis. If she or he has
- 32:53Speaker 8: got a bad leg, he can't change that, and you
- 32:56Speaker 8: can't change the way you walk. This is something we
- 32:58Speaker 8: have understood forensics for a long long time, so I
- 33:02Speaker 8: think that the field can be narrowed here significantly. I'm
- 33:05Speaker 8: wondering if the FBI has gotten involved with this and
- 33:09Speaker 8: they've done an actual gait analysis on her or him,
- 33:13Speaker 8: because that's the reality of what they can do at
- 33:16Speaker 8: this point. You couple that with, as Alan mentioned earlier,
- 33:20Speaker 8: with modern forensics, modern in our context relative to DNA evidence,
- 33:25Speaker 8: how sensitive everything is now. I just hope that they
- 33:29Speaker 8: have enough sample of whatever it is they had in
- 33:31Speaker 8: the beginning that they can still run it through to testing.
- 33:35Speaker 1: Imagine this video with the helmet off and let's just
- 33:40Speaker 1: pretend a long ponytail hanging down the back. Keep watching
- 33:45Speaker 1: as the person walks, keep watching. I mean, Alan Duke,
- 33:52Speaker 1: I can totally visualize this being a woman right there.
- 33:55Speaker 6: There's another thing that did not exist ten years ago
- 33:58Speaker 6: that they can use. That's a on you see all
- 34:01Speaker 6: these fake AI videos. There probably are AI tools now
- 34:07Speaker 6: or will be in another week or two. The way
- 34:09Speaker 6: it's going that they can take this video and they
- 34:11Speaker 6: can sharpen it, they can change it, they can generate
- 34:17Speaker 6: more detail in it, and we're going to see more
- 34:20Speaker 6: have they done that. Have they thought about doing that?
- 34:23Speaker 6: I think that they should because we're ten years down
- 34:26Speaker 6: the road and things are so much more, so much
- 34:31Speaker 6: more as possible with analyzing video, and I want to
- 34:34Speaker 6: see them do that.
- 34:36Speaker 1: The population there was just twenty two thousand people at
- 34:41Speaker 1: the time Missy was murdered.
- 34:43Speaker 10: Mid Lothian, Texas is having some severe weather, not severe
- 34:47Speaker 10: enough to prevent mother of three, Missy Beavers, early morning
- 34:50Speaker 10: fitness class. As you posts on Facebook, if it's raining,
- 34:54Speaker 10: we're still training. No excuses. You are gladiators, MISSI informed students.
- 34:59Speaker 10: Because the rain, they will be training inside the church
- 35:02Speaker 10: rather than the parking lot. Beavers arrives at the church
- 35:05Speaker 10: before the sun comes up to get things prepared for
- 35:07Speaker 10: her gladiators.
- 35:08Speaker 11: Missy Beavers arrives at Creekside Church at four sixteen am
- 35:12Speaker 11: and begins setting up for her five am fitness class.
- 35:15Speaker 11: She doesn't realize there's someone else in the building. Video
- 35:18Speaker 11: surveillance inside Creekside Church shows a person dressed in full
- 35:21Speaker 11: police SWAT tactical gear walking through the halls of the
- 35:24Speaker 11: church with an unusual gait while clutching a hammer. The
- 35:27Speaker 11: unknown person uses force to get into the church when
- 35:30Speaker 11: he is first seen on video about three point fifty
- 35:32Speaker 11: am Alan Duke.
- 35:34Speaker 1: She put it out there, even if it rains, we're
- 35:38Speaker 1: going to train anyone interested at all, and Missy Beavers
- 35:43Speaker 1: could find that.
- 35:45Speaker 6: Yes, it was obvious if you were so motivated, and
- 35:50Speaker 6: apparently this person was so motivated. I agreed with you.
- 35:53Speaker 6: They weren't burglarizing, they weren't trying to take anything but
- 35:56Speaker 6: her life. And it was there. She put it out
- 35:59Speaker 6: on Facebook. I'm going to be there, I'm going to
- 36:01Speaker 6: be alone, and that's your opportunity.
- 36:04Speaker 1: And the person went in ahead of time and was
- 36:07Speaker 1: lying in wait. Correct, Alan.
- 36:09Speaker 6: They knew the routine, they knew that she would be there,
- 36:12Speaker 6: probably at a certain time. They arrived just before four
- 36:15Speaker 6: o'clock in the morning. It was about sixteen or seventeen
- 36:18Speaker 6: minutes later that Missy walks in and is attacked. And
- 36:22Speaker 6: by the way, we don't see the video that they got.
- 36:24Speaker 6: The police do have other video of her entering, of
- 36:27Speaker 6: the suspect entering, and of other things happening, but we
- 36:31Speaker 6: don't see them. We have only seen two minutes of
- 36:34Speaker 6: for six blurry security cameras.
- 36:36Speaker 1: I wonder why they're still hanging on to it, Allan,
- 36:40Speaker 1: I don't.
- 36:40Speaker 6: Think that they're even releasing the police report, still saying
- 36:43Speaker 6: it's an active investigation. Maybe Dave mac or Joe Scott
- 36:47Speaker 6: no different. But I know we were requesting it and
- 36:50Speaker 6: they were saying, no, we can't let you have the
- 36:52Speaker 6: initial police report. The officer responding to the scene would
- 36:56Speaker 6: have filled that out. How do they handle the crime scene?
- 36:58Speaker 6: What did they see we have? I've never seen it
- 37:01Speaker 6: and I don't think it's ever been released.
- 37:03Speaker 1: What was the point of entry? Allan?
- 37:06Speaker 6: It was apparently a fourth century and breaking glass four century.
- 37:12Speaker 6: I don't know which door it was in, but it
- 37:15Speaker 6: was supposedly according to the chief years ago, it was
- 37:17Speaker 6: a forced entry.
- 37:22Speaker 1: To Dave Matt, what can you tell me about unusual
- 37:28Speaker 1: linked in messages Missy got within about three days before
- 37:33Speaker 1: her murder.
- 37:34Speaker 10: There was a message that arrived less than three days
- 37:38Speaker 10: before the murder, and it shocked Missy enough that she
- 37:42Speaker 10: shared it with a very close friend. Showed her the
- 37:44Speaker 10: message because it was weird and creepy and from a man,
- 37:49Speaker 10: or allegedly a man, and Missy didn't know who the
- 37:52Speaker 10: person was, but it bothered her enough to show it
- 37:55Speaker 10: to the friend. The friend also took least she didn't
- 37:58Speaker 10: know who this individual was. So you've got an anonymous
- 38:01Speaker 10: or an unknown person sending a creepy message to Missy
- 38:05Speaker 10: Beaver's in seventy two hours before she's you.
- 38:08Speaker 1: Give you any idea what was in the message, Dave
- 38:10Speaker 1: mac No.
- 38:11Speaker 6: They have not.
- 38:13Speaker 10: Just it has been called creepy and strange. That is
- 38:17Speaker 10: all we've been told about it, you know.
- 38:18Speaker 1: Alan Duke, I would not put it past the killer
- 38:22Speaker 1: to have staged that to make it look as if
- 38:26Speaker 1: she had a male stalker to throw interest elsewhere.
- 38:32Speaker 6: Social media messaging and misinformation is the area I've worked
- 38:36Speaker 6: in for the last ten years, as you know, at
- 38:38Speaker 6: lead Stories, and I can tell you it's very easy
- 38:41Speaker 6: to deceive somebody with a post on LinkedIn or Facebook
- 38:44Speaker 6: or anywhere, because they don't really know who you are.
- 38:47Speaker 6: You could be in a different country, you could be
- 38:49Speaker 6: somebody completely different, and it would be a good way
- 38:53Speaker 6: of setting something up if someone had the forethought and
- 38:56Speaker 6: the motivation to do that.
- 38:58Speaker 1: I have no doubt this was planned in advance.
- 39:01Speaker 10: Missy Beaver's death investigation now includes a vehicle of interest
- 39:05Speaker 10: that police say is captured on surveillance cameras at a
- 39:08Speaker 10: nearby business just before the murder. It's a twenty ten
- 39:11Speaker 10: to twenty twelve niss On Ultimus silver or light color
- 39:13Speaker 10: with a no oval sticker on its bumper. Police also
- 39:16Speaker 10: rule out Missy Beaver's husband, Brandon, as he is on
- 39:18Speaker 10: an annual fishing trip at the time of the murder,
- 39:20Speaker 10: but Brandon's father, Missy Beaver's father in law, Randy, might
- 39:24Speaker 10: have some explaining to do a police search. One that
- 39:27Speaker 10: says four days after the murder, Randy Beavers took bloody
- 39:30Speaker 10: shirts to the Dry Clean supercenter of mid Lothian.
- 39:33Speaker 1: Allan, that was a dead end. Explain, Yeah, it.
- 39:36Speaker 6: Was an animal's blood, I think a dog blood. There
- 39:40Speaker 6: were no no signs of human blood on that laundry,
- 39:44Speaker 6: so that was a dead end. It did raise suspicion
- 39:48Speaker 6: about the father in law, but didn't go anywhere.
- 39:51Speaker 1: The point of entry was on the side door on
- 39:55Speaker 1: the north southwest side. A pride bar was used to
- 39:58Speaker 1: smash a glass pain and all this went down about
- 40:03Speaker 1: thirty minutes before Missy arrived. I'm convinced Alan Dick that
- 40:10Speaker 1: the knew, of course Missy would be there, knew what
- 40:13Speaker 1: time she would be there and knew that the husband
- 40:18Speaker 1: was out of town on an annual fishing trip. In
- 40:21Speaker 1: a community that's small, you know when your neighbor is
- 40:25Speaker 1: going on a fishing trip.
- 40:27Speaker 6: Yeah, and probably knew what door not to smash so
- 40:32Speaker 6: that it wouldn't raise her suspicion as she entered Derek,
- 40:34Speaker 6: Now that I think of it, she probably went through
- 40:37Speaker 6: a regular door that she would regularly go through, and
- 40:40Speaker 6: this person apparently knew that and smash the window in
- 40:43Speaker 6: the other door.
- 40:43Speaker 1: And the suspect enters at three point fifty am. Missy
- 40:48Speaker 1: walks in at four eighteen am eighteen minutes later. Quite
- 40:53Speaker 1: the coincidence. Alan, You and I both agree, there is
- 40:56Speaker 1: no coincidence. In criminal law, I.
- 40:58Speaker 6: Agree, there's no no question in my mind, this was
- 41:01Speaker 6: not a burglary. This was a planned killing. If it's
- 41:04Speaker 6: a burglar, why would a burglar invest in this fake
- 41:07Speaker 6: swat gear? Police get up and put it on and
- 41:10Speaker 6: go in. Why would they do that just for a burglary?
- 41:14Speaker 6: No burglar. Burglars, by the way, are about the stupidest
- 41:17Speaker 6: people I know. I met a few of them, put
- 41:19Speaker 6: some in jail. And this was not a burglar.
- 41:27Speaker 1: Alan, Duke joining US editor in chief lead Stories dot com.
- 41:31Speaker 1: Where does the investigation stand now, Well.
- 41:36Speaker 6: They've switched investigators off and on. They say they're working
- 41:39Speaker 6: with the state police. The FBI has a role in it.
- 41:42Speaker 6: But as Joe Scott mentioned earlier, let's hope that they're
- 41:45Speaker 6: resubmitting the DNA evidence if there is any for reanalysis
- 41:50Speaker 6: with the new forensics. On many cold cases, it's just
- 41:54Speaker 6: a matter, I guess, of waiting for technology to give
- 41:56Speaker 6: you a clue to help you. You know, you've You've
- 41:58Speaker 6: done many many of the show those where killers were
- 42:01Speaker 6: caught because of DNA advancements or other technology, and I
- 42:05Speaker 6: think really AI video technology could play a role in this.
- 42:09Speaker 6: So I guess we just got to sit on our
- 42:11Speaker 6: hands while police do something. Un Let's hope they're doing it.
- 42:14Speaker 1: Alan, Did you ever believe that we would be trying
- 42:17Speaker 1: to solve Missy Beaver's murder ten years later?
- 42:21Speaker 6: No, No, I thought that the attention to it that
- 42:25Speaker 6: you gave to it, that others and other news agencies
- 42:29Speaker 6: gave to it would put pressure on the police to
- 42:32Speaker 6: open up. And it's amazing now how the crimes are
- 42:36Speaker 6: solved because detectives do that. They let information out there
- 42:42Speaker 6: so we can crowdsource it. I know some people turn
- 42:44Speaker 6: their nose up at doing that, and some law enforcement,
- 42:47Speaker 6: but that's I think is what's needed. If you go
- 42:49Speaker 6: in line search Missy Beaver's you'll see a lot of
- 42:52Speaker 6: people and Reddit and elsewhere are talking about it. Let's
- 42:55Speaker 6: do more and let's solve this. You know, some of
- 42:59Speaker 6: the big murders over time have been solved because somebody
- 43:03Speaker 6: actually said, hey, I'm free, I'm going to write a
- 43:05Speaker 6: book about it. And I doubt that we'll see a
- 43:07Speaker 6: book written about this, but maybe there's going to be
- 43:11Speaker 6: a confession somewhere along the line. Somebody on their deathbed
- 43:15Speaker 6: will make a confession.
- 43:16Speaker 1: I don't know, but I hope you don't have to
- 43:18Speaker 1: wait for someone else to die before the case is solved. Guys,
- 43:22Speaker 1: you're seeing Missy Beavers, a beautiful young mom, a wife,
- 43:30Speaker 1: fitness enthusiast, her whole life before her murdered brutally in
- 43:36Speaker 1: the local church. If you know or think you know
- 43:40Speaker 1: anything about her murder, please dial mid Lothian PD nine
- 43:45Speaker 1: seven to two seven seven five seven six two four
- 43:49Speaker 1: or Ellis County Sheriff's nine seven two nine three seven
- 43:54Speaker 1: seven to two nine seven, we remember American hero Deputy
- 43:59Speaker 1: Sheriff Deputy Marshal Thomas Weeks, U S. Department of Justice,
- 44:05Speaker 1: shot in the line of duty after twenty one years,
- 44:09Speaker 1: leaving behind wife turned widow, Kelly, and four children, Abbey, Mackenzie,
- 44:16Speaker 1: Brady and Patrick. American hero Deputy Marshall Thomas Weeks. Thanks
- 44:23Speaker 1: to our guests, but especially to you for being with us.
- 44:25Speaker 1: Nancy Gray signing off for tonight, but I'll see you
- 44:27Speaker 1: tomorrow night, and until then, good night friend.