Latest / The Epstein Chronicles / Todd Blanche Argues For A Stay In The Katie Phang Epstein Related Lawsuit (Part 2) (9/23/26)
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- 0:00Speaker 1: What's up, everyone, and welcome to another episode of the
- 0:03Speaker 1: Epstein Chronicles. In this episode, we're going to pick up
- 0:06Speaker 1: where we left off with Todd Blanche and his argument
- 0:10Speaker 1: for a stay. Three, plaintiff's procedural argument do not weigh
- 0:14Speaker 1: against a stay pending appeal. Tellingly, plaintiff's main argument have
- 0:19Speaker 1: nothing to do with the factors that govern whether a
- 0:21Speaker 1: stay pending appeal is warranted. And those arguments do not support,
- 0:25Speaker 1: let alone compel, denial of defendant's motion. A. Local Civil
- 0:30Speaker 1: Rule 7M does not warrant denial of defendant's motion. Plaintiff
- 0:34Speaker 1: argues that this court should deny a stay with the
- 0:37Speaker 1: potential result of presenting the D.C. Circuit from ever resolving
- 0:41Speaker 1: the important issues presented based on Local Civil Rule 7M' s
- 0:46Speaker 1: meet-and-confer requirement. But defendant has repeatedly raised the issue of
- 0:50Speaker 1: a stay pending appeal and plaintiff has already made clear
- 0:53Speaker 1: that she opposes a stay many times over. See ECF
- 0:57Speaker 1: 13 at 21, there's no basis for a stay. ECF
- 1:01Speaker 1: 20 at 11 and 12, the court should not grant
- 1:03Speaker 1: a stay. ECF at 6, arguing against, request for a stay.
- 1:08Speaker 1: Even if Local Rule 7M technically applied, courts do not
- 1:12Speaker 1: deny motions based on that rule when doing so would
- 1:15Speaker 1: not meaningfully further its purposes and would conflict with the
- 1:18Speaker 1: general judicial preference for resolving motions on their merits rather
- 1:22Speaker 1: than dismissing them on technicalities. Steele v. United States, DDC,
- 1:27Speaker 1: September 25th, 2023. Lamberth J. quoting Niedermeyer, verse Baucus. DDC, 2020.
- 1:37Speaker 1: Declining to rely on the meet-and-confer requirement where a failure
- 1:40Speaker 1: to meet-and-confer did not prejudice the non-movement given that the
- 1:44Speaker 1: movement had repeatedly informed the opposing party of its position.
- 1:48Speaker 1: Given plaintiff's repeated statement opposing any stay and the important
- 1:52Speaker 1: merits issues presented, that reasoning applies with full force here. B.
- 1:57Speaker 1: Defendant is seeking a stay of an appealable injunction. As
- 2:01Speaker 1: plaintiff acknowledges a prelim injunction is immediately appealable under 28 U.S.
- 2:06Speaker 1: Code Section 1291A1, ECF 47-3. Plaintiff further acknowledges that an
- 2:13Speaker 1: order that modifies a previously entered injunction is appealable. Citing
- 2:18Speaker 1: Mamma Mia's Trattoria vs. Original Brooklyn Water Bagel, 11th Circuit, 2014.
- 2:24Speaker 1: but plaintiff emphasizes that orders enforcing a prelim injunction are
- 2:28Speaker 1: not appealable. Defendant is plainly seeking to stay in appealable order.
- 2:32Speaker 1: As defendant's motion explains, defendant asks the court to stay
- 2:36Speaker 1: pending appeal the portion of the September 16th order that
- 2:40Speaker 1: requires defendant to initiate review and production of certain documents
- 2:44Speaker 1: and to certify that defendant has done so by September 24th, 2026,
- 2:47Speaker 1: ECF 46 1 at 1. Because the September 16 order
- 2:53Speaker 1: definitively resolved the foreign language documents issue, required defendant to
- 2:58Speaker 1: take affirmative action, and imposed a deadline for defendant to
- 3:01Speaker 1: do so, it constitutes an appealable preliminary injunction. Plaintiff's contrary
- 3:07Speaker 1: argument relies on the court's June 25 order, but overlooks
- 3:11Speaker 1: multiple aspects of both orders. Defendant previously sought a stay
- 3:15Speaker 1: of the June 25 order to the extent it would
- 3:17Speaker 1: be appealable, CECF 16 at 48. denying request for stay.
- 3:22Speaker 1: But both defendant and the court have noted ambiguity as
- 3:26Speaker 1: to whether the June 25th order constituted an appealable prelim injunction,
- 3:31Speaker 1: CECF 34 at 33, acknowledging questions about whether the earlier
- 3:35Speaker 1: order is appealable, filing a protective notice of appeal given
- 3:40Speaker 1: inconclusive appealability. To the extent the earlier order conferred definitive
- 3:45Speaker 1: injunctive relief, despite the court's ongoing consideration of defendant's rationales,
- 3:50Speaker 1: Regarding foreign language documents, the September 16th order modified the
- 3:54Speaker 1: earlier open-ended order by setting an imminent deadline and is
- 3:59Speaker 1: therefore appealable. Dunlap v. Presidential Advisory Commission, D.C. Circuit 2019.
- 4:05Speaker 1: An order that changes the legal relationship of the parties
- 4:08Speaker 1: modifies an injunction. Sansom Committee by Cook v. Lynn, 3rd
- 4:14Speaker 1: Circuit 1984. Order extending deadline to comply with the consent decree.
- 4:19Speaker 1: was in the nature of a prelim injunction and appealable. Regardless,
- 4:24Speaker 1: defendant's motion should be construed as seeking a stay of
- 4:27Speaker 1: both orders, to the extent necessary. After all, defendant timely
- 4:30Speaker 1: filed a notice of appeal regarding the earlier order, precisely
- 4:34Speaker 1: to preserve defendant's appellate rights, as a dialogue between the
- 4:37Speaker 1: court and parties continued. Just as a notice of appeal
- 4:41Speaker 1: encompasses all orders for purpose of appeal, merged into the
- 4:45Speaker 1: designated appealable order, such that it's not necessary to designate
- 4:49Speaker 1: those orders in notice of appeal. See Federal R. Appeals P. 3. C. 4.
- 4:55Speaker 1: Defendant was not required to take the hypertechnical step of
- 4:59Speaker 1: expressly and independently seeking to renew or seek reconsideration of
- 5:03Speaker 1: its request for a stay of the June 25th order
- 5:06Speaker 1: in its motion to stay the eminent requirement that it
- 5:09Speaker 1: review and produce foreign language documents. To the extent that
- 5:13Speaker 1: there's doubt or ambiguity about the issue, the court should
- 5:16Speaker 1: clarify its rulings in the June 25th and September 16th
- 5:19Speaker 1: order in a matter that ensures the D.C. Circuit has
- 5:22Speaker 1: an adequate opportunity to review the important issues presented before
- 5:26Speaker 1: the September 24th deadline takes effect. See ECF 43 at 16.
- 5:32Speaker 1: Contemplating defendant may seek clarification from the court no later
- 5:35Speaker 1: than September 21st, 2026. Respectfully, the issues presented are sufficiently
- 5:40Speaker 1: important to the parties and the public to warrant an
- 5:43Speaker 1: appellate resolution. C. Defendant's request is timely. For all the
- 5:49Speaker 1: same reasons, defendant is not delayed in bringing this state motion.
- 5:53Speaker 1: Defendant preemptively sought a stay of the June 25th order
- 5:56Speaker 1: before it even issued, filed a protective order of appeal
- 6:00Speaker 1: regarding that order, and then sought to stay of September
- 6:03Speaker 1: 16th order within two days. On plaintiff's telling, defendant should
- 6:07Speaker 1: have rushed an emergency appeal as soon as the June
- 6:11Speaker 1: 25th order issued, despite defendants' doubts about its appealability, but
- 6:15Speaker 1: that again would have undermined the court's collaborative spirit in
- 6:18Speaker 1: seeking to resolve the questions presented. Greater Boston Television Corporation, 44F. 2D,
- 6:26Speaker 1: at 851 and 52. The court should not adopt plaintiff's
- 6:30Speaker 1: argument and therefore decentivize parties from engaging in dialogue with
- 6:34Speaker 1: district courts on complex matters. plaintiff also ignores that there
- 6:39Speaker 1: was no eminent deadline in the June 25th order, so
- 6:42Speaker 1: the need for immediate stay and appeal to preserve defendant's
- 6:45Speaker 1: appellate rights did not arise until the September 16th order.
- 6:49Speaker 1: For the same reasons, plaintiff's additional argument that any purported
- 6:52Speaker 1: delay diffuses defendant's claims of irreparable harm, CECF 47 at 6,
- 6:59Speaker 1: fall flat. 4. In the alternative, the court should grant
- 7:02Speaker 1: the stay pending the D.C. Circuit's resolution of a motion
- 7:05Speaker 1: for staying pending appeal. If the court denies defendant's request
- 7:10Speaker 1: for a stay pending appeal, the court should at least
- 7:12Speaker 1: grant the stay while the D.C. Circuit considers a further
- 7:15Speaker 1: motion to stay pending appeal. ECF 46.1 at 24. By
- 7:21Speaker 1: this court's rules and approach to motions practice in this litigation,
- 7:25Speaker 1: plaintiff has conceded that such a temporary stay is warranted.
- 7:29Speaker 1: ECF 16 at 36, citing D.D.C. Local Rule 7B. In
- 7:36Speaker 1: the future, out of abundance of caution, Defendants' Council will
- 7:38Speaker 1: seek to meet and confer with Plaintiff's Council, even when
- 7:41Speaker 1: Plaintiff has repeatedly briefed its position and doing so appears futile.
- 7:46Speaker 1: Had Defendants' Council been aware that certain Plaintiff's Council would
- 7:49Speaker 1: be observing Yom Kippur, Defendants' Council would have been amnable
- 7:53Speaker 1: to a stipulated schedule that delayed the September 24th deadline
- 7:57Speaker 1: by a few days to allow for a briefing and
- 8:00Speaker 1: potential recourse to the D.C. Circuit. Conclusion For the reasons
- 8:04Speaker 1: set forth above, The court should stay pending appeal the
- 8:08Speaker 1: September 16th order to the extent the order requires defendant
- 8:12Speaker 1: to initiate review and production of foreign language documents. The
- 8:16Speaker 1: court should also stay and or clarify the July 25th
- 8:20Speaker 1: order to the extent necessary to facilitate appellate review of
- 8:24Speaker 1: the pertinent legal questions. In the alternative, this court should
- 8:28Speaker 1: enter a temporary stay that enables defendant to seek full
- 8:31Speaker 1: stay pending appeal from the D.C. Circuit. Defendant previously requested
- 8:36Speaker 1: a decision by September 21, 2026 at 5 p.m. Eastern
- 8:40Speaker 1: Standard Time on this motion. The court then ordered defendant
- 8:44Speaker 1: to file this reply brief by that same time. Defendant
- 8:47Speaker 1: has filed this brief early in an effort to facilitate
- 8:51Speaker 1: the court's review. In defendant's continuing effort to avoid leapfrogging
- 8:55Speaker 1: this court while it considers important issues, defendant now requests
- 8:59Speaker 1: a ruling as soon as practicable and by September 21st,
- 9:02Speaker 1: 2026 at 8 p.m. Eastern Standard Time. This document was
- 9:07Speaker 1: dated September 21st, 2026, and it was signed by Andrew Block.
- 9:14Speaker 1: All the information that goes with this episode can be
- 9:16Speaker 1: found in the description box.