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'All The Way' Back to Busted, Disney Channel Bangers & Lyrics That Haven't Aged Well Ep 16 · Galaxy Crashers: The Busted and McFly Podcast

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  Hello and welcome. You're listening to Galaxy
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  Crashers, The Busted, and McFly podcast.
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  The only podcast where the 2 worlds collide.
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  Hosted by us 2 mums who love revisiting the naughties on a
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  daily basis and talking all things Busted and McFly.
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  I'm Sham. And I'm Tay, and on this week's
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  episode, we are heading back to Busted's first album and looking
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  at the song all the way, where we'll be discussing how the song
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  has changed with age, giving our ratings, and discussing other
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  songs from the era. You can also stick around for
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  our usual This or that segment, Song of the Week, as always.
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  And in the theme of this week's Focus, we've added a segment all
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  about pop anthems that haven't aged well since the naughties.
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  Yes, indeed. And there are some bangers.
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  I'm actually really looking forward to that segment.
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  I'm not gonna lie, there are. It's taken some prep, but it's
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  going to be an interesting 1. So make sure you stick around.
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  How's your week been, Shan? What have you been up to?
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  And also, I've got a challenge for you.
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  You're not allowed to say that you've not been up to much this
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  week. You've got to actually tell us
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  what you've been doing. Challenge accepted actually,
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  because this has been a pretty wild week for me, Mum wise,
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  Genuinely so. So I can, I'm not going to say
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  that. I'm not going to say the
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  unspeakable words. Proud of you.
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  Thank you. It's been a pretty normal week,
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  to be honest. Work life.
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  I've had a lovely few runs this week with my work bestie.
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  But this weekend, Yeah. So Saturday I gave my kids this
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  like. I'll give you some back story.
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  Saturday I gave my kids a party day.
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  We do it once a month where I buy them loads of party food,
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  dress them up in pretty dresses, put on their, they've got like
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  this little party playlist on Spotify.
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  Oh, so we have, yeah, we have games, we have fun crafts, like
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  all sorts. And then after their lunch, I'm
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  like, I even make them a cake. And then after their lunch, they
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  take their the Alexa that we have downstairs, they take it
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  upstairs and they have a disco. I love it so much.
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  I get a better award. Yeah, we do it like we do it
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  like once a month. It sounds like I'm in a really
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  good mum, but actually it's like a get out my hair kind of day.
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  It's like what can I? Do.
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  To make Silver Linings. Yeah, right.
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  But this week. So yeah, they normally have a
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  disco upstairs. And this weekend, however, they
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  decided to create like this floor.
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  Like you couldn't see the floor. There was just teddies,
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  blankets, pillows everywhere and I was.
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  I don't mind if they make a mess on party day, it can make a
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  mess. But there was a strategy to the
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  mess this time. They'd climbed up on their bunk
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  bed and jumped off it. So they'd climbed all the way to
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  the top, and they've made themselves this land in an.
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  Accident waiting to happen. Yeah, right.
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  Arya was fine. She's like really little and
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  she's a bit of an Adrenalinian junkie, so she would do it 100
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  times. But Autumn, she's, she's a tall
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  gal and she is a tall gal. She jumped off.
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  Yeah, she's. Her daddy show, because mummy's
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  not a tall gal. Mummy's not a tall she's.
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  Going to be taller than you do, Bradley.
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  Said to me over there that he thinks I'm shrinking.
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  And I was like, how dare you? How dare you do that to me?
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  Old. 5 foot three stop. Can't afford to drink.
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  Yeah. So Autumn is.
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  Yeah, she's quite tall and she jumped off.
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  So she's made Aria go first because Autumn is a bit of a
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  chicken. So she's made Aria jump off 1st
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  to see if it's safe. And Aria's had the time of her
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  life. And then Autumn's jumped off and
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  she's smashed her head. There's like this wooden shop in
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  their bedroom, like a really big, big wooden shop.
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  And she's smashed her head on the shop and completely smashed
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  her front teeth in. I'm not even being dramatic
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  either. She's like, she's even dented
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  the wooden kitchen because she's hit the wooden shop.
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  Sorry, because she's hit it that hard.
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  It was bad. She ended up in A&E and then,
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  yeah, right. And then the emergency dentist
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  and it turns out she's like, cut all her gums open and now has a
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  wobbly tooth and an infection. So she's on antibiotics and
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  she's got like a tooth growing and it's now growing through the
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  cut in her. Gums to go back.
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  Yeah, and then also the next day she had an eye test which she
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  was already dreading. She cried the whole time and it
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  turns out she might need glasses, so.
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  Yeah, but tell her Auntie Tay wears glasses and she's cool as
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  fuck, so you know. So every single person in my
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  family and Bradley's family wear glasses.
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  Yeah. So there's no avoiding it.
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  So yeah, I just said, well, she's got a prescription, but
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  she does need another eye drop eye test with like these little
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  like eye drops on Wednesday to confirm it.
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  Yeah, honestly, this weekend could just go in the bin.
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  I genuinely wish I could say I've not been up to much.
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  The tides have turned. The hell the tides have turned.
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  Well, obviously I knew that Ultimate hurt herself, but I
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  didn't know it got the worst with the infection and
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  antibiotics and that much. So that's not good, honestly.
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  And. For the people.
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  Visualising this, I saw pictures of this injury and it made me
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  cringe. It was absolutely.
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  Grim, she was. She came downstairs and she told
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  me Aria had pushed her off because she didn't want to be
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  told off. And I had to say to her, yeah.
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  And we had to have a big talk about lying.
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  Yeah. But I had to say like, I am not
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  going to tell you off for this because your face, your mouth is
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  punishment. Told you off enough?
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  Yeah, exactly. You will not be doing that
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  again. She even didn't doesn't even
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  want to sleep in it. I had to tell her you've never
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  actually fallen off it unintentionally.
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  Until now, yeah. Oh, bless you.
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  Now we live and we learn. We have to make.
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  And you know, me and Jack have these chats all the time about
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  like safe play and you know, like how when you like supervise
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  kids taking risks and it's okay as long as they take risks
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  supervised or they're doing it carefully or whatever, but
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  you've got to let them make their own mistakes.
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  I mean, it's, it's hard to keep them safe like from bumps and
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  things like that all the time, isn't it?
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  You can't watch them every minute of every day.
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  And also, you know, she's not a baby.
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  She's she's what, 7? No, exactly.
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  Yeah, she's she's not like. A baby she can.
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  She makes her own decisions. She's a big girl, you know?
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  So, oh, bless her. She makes her own, her own
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  decisions to get Arya to do it first, to make sure to do yeah.
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  And Arya does it and it's fine. She does it and it's terrible.
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  Oh bless her. Literally not ideal.
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  Anyway, how was your week? How was your week?
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  Tell me something it. Was actually I had a really good
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  weekend, no drama for me. I had my big market.
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  So I think I mentioned last week that I have a little small
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  business called the Crystal Pixie Co Head over to my
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  Instagram if you want all things crystals and witchiness.
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  A little plug there for my small business.
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  I sell crystals and I hand make wire wrap like crystal
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  jewellery. Next is rings and bracelets,
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  things like that. So I had a big, big market and
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  it's my favourite one of the year.
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  It's called the healing light Festival and it's everything
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  witchy, everything spiritual and yeah, it was just amazing.
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  I love it and it went really, really well.
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  I was like unbelievably like happy with how much I sold.
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  It was so. Good.
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  Oh my God, that's so. Good.
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  It's probably the best one I've done in a good couple of years
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  in terms of like, like over the weekend, I think it was close to
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  £900 in the end that I made over the two days.
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  So that's really good. Obviously it's not all profit
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  because you pay for your table and then like items that you
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  make, you take off expenses and stuff, but it's still to make
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  £900 in two days is more than I make in a whole month on supply.
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  So it was, it was pretty good. And and I have a really nice
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  friend called Sophie and she has a little business called puffing
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  rocks. Puffing rocks as in puffing the
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  animal. If you want to head over to her
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  page, have a little look because she's really good too.
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  She does like bracelets and sun catches and stuff.
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  And we're always like next to each other at these markets,
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  which is super fun because we, even if it's like dull and
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  there's nothing going on, at least we've got each other.
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  And we just sit and chat and like, if I need to go to the
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  toilet or get a coffee or like we watch each other's stool.
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  And like, she went and had a reading, which is really nice.
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  And I took, made a sale for her And like the same, if I was
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  going to go and have something, she would take over my stool.
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  And it's just nice to have somebody that you vibe with.
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  And even though like products that we sell are similar,
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  because a couple of people have said, you know, like, oh, you 2
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  are next to each other. Like you sell quite similar
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  things. And we're like, oh, no, we asked
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  to be together because we've known each other for like 3 or 4
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  years now. And we just get on really well.
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  Even though we sell similar things, it's, you know, it's
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  nice to have somebody that that is, you know, cheering for you
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  as well as trying to do things. So yeah, that was super fun.
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  Unfortunately, my has been ill again.
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  I don't know how many times I've said that since we started this
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  podcast in October, but she's. About as much as me saying not
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  been up to much. And I think it might be, I think
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  that might be my common, you know, thing that comes up.
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  Anyway, yours your tagline. She's, yeah, she's decided to
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  just not sleep at all, not not go to bed.
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  She's normally quite good at going to bed, but she wakes up,
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  but now she's not going to bed and she's waking up.
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  So it's, yeah, bedtime is not far, but it's also my birthday
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  on Friday. So we're off to Lyme Regis.
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  Yes, for a child free weekend. I am an avid fossil slash
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  crystal enthusiast, so I've never been to Lyme Regis, so I'm
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  super excited to go and do some fossil hunting.
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  So it's just me, my husband and our dog.
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  Molly's off to her Nana's for the weekend.
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  So yeah, it'd be nice, nice to get away and have bit peace and
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  quiet. I love that we're going to start
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  calling you Mary Anning on this. I am so up for that.
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  I am going to find some dinosaurs.
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  Yeah, Mary Anning, Autumn will be down there with you.
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  She's like Mary Anning is like Autumn's idol.
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  I know I remember getting her the little kits and stuff to
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  find the the crystals and things.
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  I love that she's following in my footsteps in all things
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  geology. I love it.
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  Absolutely love it. So yeah.
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  And that nice little weekend planned, and a nice little
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  weekend had. So sorry that yours was shared,
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  but mine wasn't. Yeah, but yours was great.
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  It's time for this or that. As always, we're going to give
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  each other a this or that and probably discuss each other's
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  other options as well. Because I want to tell you what
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  I would have chosen for my this or that this week as well as
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  hear yours. So I'm going with the era rather
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  than the song because the song, as we're going to be discussing
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  is, you know, a bit of a funny one.
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  But I thought it would be quite cool to talk about the era and
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  in television. So I've gone back to, you know,
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  naughties TV and naughty films. Would you just, can I just say
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  for the listeners, I've just read your this or that and
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  you've split my personality in half?
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  When I changed it, I was trying. To choose your favourite child.
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  This is such a good choice, literally.
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  So I like was trying to think of things and I was looking at
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  different TV shows and movies of the time and I was like, this is
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  a great one for Shannon. OK, so Are you ready this or
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  that? Have a one night sleepover at
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  the Hannah Montana house with the cast or be a background
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  character in the first High School Musical film?
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  Such a good choice. This is really hard.
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  This is. Probably what you ever choose.
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  I know. I thought you would appreciate
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  this. I think I have an answer, but I
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  think I have an answer because it will just be longer, not
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  because I don't want the other one.
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  I think my answer would be have a sleepover at the Hannah
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  Montana house because I tell you now, me as a 32 year old, I
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  could walk around that house and know where I am.
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  I watched. The show honestly believe that
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  you could just blend in. I would just blend and also
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  like, and I'm not a fan of horses, but like, I love me some
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  country music. Billy Ray, you are my man.
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  Like get your cowboy. Boots on, get my cowboy boots
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  on. Yeah, I think I would use that.
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  But sweet, sweet, sweet Zac Efron, I am so sorry.
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  Sweet sweet teen age Zac Efron before the dodgy face surgery.
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  Yeah, and me that age thought he was like chopped dollar,
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  literally. Oh God yeah he was.
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  Still would, even with his dodgy chin.
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  Yeah, Zac Efron, you'd be stupid naughty.
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  Oh my goodness. OK, so you've gone for Hannah
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  Montana. I would have chosen the
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  opposite. I I love Hannah Montana.
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  Don't get me wrong. I think the house would be super
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  fun and to sleep over with the cast would be so fun.
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  And it probably would be a bit more personal, but to be in High
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  School Musical. Are you joking?
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  The musical theatre gallon me would die and I feel like to be.
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  A background character. Yeah, exactly.
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  To be a background character, you'd be there filming for quite
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  a long time. I don't think it would just be
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  like a one day thing. Oh, I didn't think of.
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  This. I feel like if you were a
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  background character you'd be in lots of different scenes,
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  especially if you were playing like a student at the school or
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  something. You would be in all the ensemble
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  dances and you might be like in the background of the theatre
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  watching them do the performances and stuff.
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  I would 100% choose high school in school.
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  I think if I was in high school, in school, I'd be that girl,
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  wouldn't I? The one that's like I like to
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  pop and lock and jam and break. Is that even legal?
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  Sometimes I think it's even cooler than homework.
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  No, no, no, no. I hate myself.
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  Yeah, that one literally maybe when this is being.
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  Recorded and thousands of people are listening to me do this
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  yeah, it's just. Not OK also, but like, think
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  about it, right? Miley Cyrus?
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  Yeah, Miley, What was she called?
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  Miley Stewart? Sorry, that was her name and.
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  Her Miley Stewart. Yeah, and Lily, my I think I
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  would be such good friends with them, genuinely.
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  New word. The character, she's so funny.
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  She's so good feeling. And like, yeah, definitely.
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  Yeah, I'd also, I had a crush on the other guy.
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  What was he called? His real name was Mitchell
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  Musso. Oh, I can't remember.
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  I can't believe I remember his. Real name so.
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  Yeah, I think he was called like Oliver.
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  I fancied him so, so hard. You were definitely more of a
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  Hannah Montana girl than me. I used to like Hannah Montana,
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  but I don't think I'm as Stan for Hannah Montana as you.
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  Are I, Me and me and Autumn are watching Hannah Montana like
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  we're going through. It I do, to be fair, I can't
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  wait for Marley to be at the age where I can watch Hannah Montana
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  with her and. We dance.
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  So we've got this playlist. We've got this like Disney, like
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  cool Disney, not just like Little Mermaid, like cool Disney
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  Playlist and we dance to it all the time.
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  The amount of time we've danced. She knows the lyrics to Best of
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  both Worlds. And I think that is like my
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  biggest achievement as a parent so far.
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  I. Was going to say that was your
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  top moment as a mum so far. My kid knows Hannah Montana.
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  My top moment as a mum so far is that my daughter can look at
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  Taylor Swift and say Tay Tay. And.
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  She's not even 2. I have my Crocs, I have little.
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  Are they called like gibbets or something of of tables?
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  Yeah. And every time she sees them,
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  she goes Tay Tay, mummy shoe Tay Tay.
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  Oh, I love her. She loves her so much and
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  honestly sit her in front of the error store, the the actual like
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  performance of the error store on the TV.
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  She's encapsulated, enchanted. You couldn't move her for the
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  world. You could not move her.
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  She's just like. That's so funny.
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  I love it. Well dear, when I was thinking
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  about my this or that this week, I was thinking how can I make
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  life difficult for Taylor this week?
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  Oh nice, like my life needs to be any more difficult.
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  Than it was well you've had a really good weekend so shut your
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  mouth it's. My birthday though.
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  So no, you don't get a win on that one.
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  So on that note, my, this or that is you can only listen to
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  Thunderbirds. I'll go for the rest of your
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  life or or or you can only listen to met this girl for the
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  rest of your life. Brilliant.
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  Absolutely brilliant because I hate both of them.
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  But it's the only song you can listen to for the rest of your
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  life. You're the rest of your life,
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  Taylor. Do you know what's really funny?
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  And it's probably going to contradict.
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  I'm probably going to contradict myself.
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  After our Met This Girl episode, I found myself in my bedroom
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  upstairs putting clothes away singing the song and Jack came
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  in and I went what am I doing? I'm singing that stupid song.
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  I don't even like it. Oh honestly, I was just there.
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  Then I met this girl just the other day.
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  I was like what am I doing? OK, but to contradict that even
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  though it was an earworm and it was stuck in my head, it did
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  drive me mad for days and I genuinely do think I would
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  probably rather listen to Thunderbird soccer.
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  Really. I as much as I dislike
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  Thunderbirds, I'll go. I think I only dislike it
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  because I never really was a Thunderbirds girl.
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  But actually the song is not a bad song because it's a good
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  song in terms of what it's written for.
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  It's a good theme tune. It's a good you know, it was
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  good for the movie. It did the job, met This Girl is
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  an earworm, but it's not a good song so.
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  No comment. No comment.
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  I'm sorry, not going back there. No comment.
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  I'm. Sorry.
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  Also, while we're on the topic of things I've said in the past
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  about McFly songs, can I change my answer because you gave me
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  not not to this question, but you gave me this or that the
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  other day. That was Saturday night and down
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  by the lake and I've changed my mind.
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  Definitely prefer down by the lake.
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  I was listening to me in car earlier and I had Saturday night
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  on. I was like, I need to listen to
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  Down by the Lake so that I can like compare them in my brain.
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  And I put it on and within the first minute I was like, why did
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  I choose Saturday night? Down by the the best McFly it's.
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  So much better. It's so much better than
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  Saturday. Night told any different?
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  I don't know why. I chose it.
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  I genuinely think I just got overwhelmed.
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  It was just like, oh, Saturday night, yes, I've changed my.
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  Answer for all difficult ones. I've changed my answer for last
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  week. This for that as well.
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  But yeah, I would choose Thunderbirds.
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  I'll go. I imagine you would choose,
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  would you choose met this girl. No, I choose Thunderbirds.
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  I go because it's one of my. I like, I love it.
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  I'm. Doing a little dance for those
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  of you that can't see me. I love Thunderbirds, I go and I
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  would love to find a three piece of people, so there's the two of
• 19:00
  us, so there is an audition. A spot open.
• 19:03
  The next Thunderbird. It'll be Steve.
• 19:06
  It'll be Steve. There'll be no, there'll be no
• 19:09
  competition. It'll be Steve, Steve.
• 19:12
  Just to the next Buster concert as Thunderbirds.
• 19:14
  Steve, we'll be back soon guys, we know you.
• 19:16
  We know you all love Steve. We'll bring him back so you
• 19:19
  don't worry. We've just got such a big list
• 19:21
  of guests to. Come on, we do and it's actually
• 19:24
  really flattering like every other day when you get a message
• 19:27
  on Instagram, like our Instagram following isn't huge compared to
• 19:30
  our listeners on here, but people find us on.
• 19:33
  Instagram, it's mental. We got so many more listeners
• 19:37
  opposed to people on socials. And do you know what I think it
• 19:40
  is? I think a lot of people our age
• 19:42
  and people that listen to me like don't use social media
• 19:44
  anymore. There's so many people that
• 19:46
  don't use social media and like, we don't really do TikTok.
• 19:48
  We do a little bit of TikTok here and there.
• 19:51
  We're just not. Could you imagine a 32 year old
• 19:53
  using Snapchat? Oh no, no, probably.
• 19:56
  There probably are 32 year olds that use Snapchat listening
• 19:59
  right now. We're not judging you.
• 20:00
  We're just saying no, no, no, we're not that.
• 20:02
  We're not cool enough to be. Honest, it's not like, yeah,
• 20:05
  yeah, yeah, exactly. I yeah.
• 20:08
  But it's like it's really overwhelming when people like
• 20:10
  that don't follow us on Instagram, Message us on
• 20:13
  Instagram and say, hey, I listen to your podcast all the time.
• 20:16
  Are you open for guests? Like you don't think you've gone
• 20:19
  out of your way to find our Instagram page to message us?
• 20:24
  Exactly. And do you know what?
• 20:25
  I've got a little notes on my phone with a list of people that
• 20:29
  want to come on the podcast because trying to find dates for
• 20:32
  them all. I can think like 2 months ahead
• 20:34
  and that's all that will work in my brain.
• 20:36
  And we try not to have more than like 2 guests in like a six week
• 20:39
  period. Otherwise it's like not our
• 20:41
  podcast anymore of guests on every week.
• 20:43
  As lovely as it is. Yeah, it's, it's, it's nice.
• 20:47
  We, we appreciate you all. Thank you so much.
• 20:50
  And lots more to come as I'm sure we've got lots already
• 20:54
  booked in. So exciting times.
• 21:00
  It's time for Song of the Week. It's a juicy one this week
• 21:04
  because we are talking about Busted song all the way
• 21:20
  now. If you haven't heard this one,
• 21:22
  we just want you to remember. But in the early noughties,
• 21:25
  music got away with a lot more than it does today lyrically.
• 21:30
  OK, so just keep that in your mind.
• 21:32
  It was a long time ago. It really, really did and we
• 21:36
  are. We're going to be decoding the
• 21:38
  lyrics and discussing what they mean, as well as thinking about
• 21:41
  how they have all haven't aged well.
• 21:45
  Yes, it's it's going to be a lot of interesting opinions, I think
• 21:49
  in this in this context, but what I would like our listeners
• 21:53
  to think about is think about the context of the time opposed
• 21:57
  to it now, yes, perhaps in today's world and not only have
• 22:02
  we were talking about this song, but I've also found a lot of
• 22:04
  other songs with you that definitely have been aged well.
• 22:07
  And honestly, there are some absolute bangers on there.
• 22:10
  But I definitely used to dance around him when I was a
• 22:13
  teenager, probably two in a club at some point as well when I
• 22:17
  was. Also still dance around 2 as a
• 22:20
  32 year. As an adult, yeah, exactly.
• 22:22
  But some of them have not aged well.
• 22:25
  But we'll just keep in mind of the time they were of the time,
• 22:29
  a bit like movies, you know, when Disney does those, like I
• 22:31
  think it's The Jungle Book where it comes up at the beginning.
• 22:33
  And we're like, we are aware that the some of the ideologies
• 22:37
  and things represented in this movie are no longer acceptable
• 22:40
  by, you know, society standards. But we like to keep it because
• 22:43
  it's representing of the time. That's what we're going to be
• 22:45
  talking about today. Yeah.
• 22:46
  So shall we start with our ratings out of 10?
• 22:50
  Yes, and I'm going to put you on the spot this week, so I'd like
• 22:52
  you to go first please. I feel like I've gone 1st and
• 22:56
  you've really ripped me for quite a few of mine so I'd like
• 22:59
  you to go fast. That's fine, that's fine.
• 23:02
  I want to premise this that I really like this song.
• 23:06
  Yeah, we agree. I do.
• 23:09
  I do. We agree.
• 23:10
  The first time in ages. And although like I'm not giving
• 23:15
  these like these lyrics are genuinely like CD, so most of
• 23:21
  them, 90% of them are gross. And I think listening back then,
• 23:25
  if I understood if I wasn't an actual child, I would have been
• 23:29
  like, what the fuck are you singing about?
• 23:31
  But two? 1000 and two 2002 this was we
• 23:35
  were 9. Literally, if I knew what it was
• 23:39
  about, I would have probably been like, Mum, why you let me
• 23:41
  listen to this literally. My mum wouldn't have let me have
• 23:45
  the CD if she really listened to it.
• 23:48
  Yeah, yeah, right. I think that it's a really good
• 23:54
  song. Do you know what it is?
• 23:55
  It's a good pop song. Yeah.
• 23:58
  It's just a good pop song and if you don't deep it too much it's
• 24:04
  it's really good. I'm going to give it a 7.
• 24:07
  Good. OK, I'm pleased with that.
• 24:09
  I agree in that I think it's it's just catchy.
• 24:13
  And yeah, after looking at some of the live versions this week
• 24:19
  and some of the performances that Busted did of it, people
• 24:22
  loved this song. People screamed bloody murder
• 24:28
  for all three of them boys when they were singing this song.
• 24:31
  And they remember they were young.
• 24:32
  They were like 20 and like 18 at this point, you know, like 2000
• 24:37
  and two 2003 Busted very, very early doors.
• 24:40
  But don't you look at them and think, how can you?
• 24:44
  How can you wear those clothes singing and look that dorky?
• 24:49
  I know I'm. Singing these words.
• 24:51
  Back then we were up. We were with the baggy jeans and
• 24:54
  the chains and the spiky hair and James's like weird hat and
• 25:00
  his like slap down fringe. I mean, I, I saw that video of
• 25:04
  them performing this live. Did you hear the screams when
• 25:06
  James started singing? Yeah, no, I know That was me.
• 25:09
  But still, like it was me. That was me.
• 25:12
  I was in the CDUK audience. I wish I was.
• 25:17
  I love James. I mean, I love them all, but
• 25:19
  equally. I think what this song does or
• 25:24
  did to us as young girls was just made us realise how much we
• 25:28
  fancied them because we were like, yeah, I'd go all the way
• 25:32
  for you, Charlie. Yeah, but I didn't understand it
• 25:35
  then. Like I still like I was nine
• 25:37
  years. Old I wouldn't have a 10 Yeah,
• 25:38
  no, I would not have 10 When when Like I really, I think I
• 25:42
  started really listening to Busted more when they broke up
• 25:46
  because they were everywhere and everybody was so sad that I
• 25:49
  think I obviously listened to them when they were together.
• 25:52
  But I think songs like all the way when overly play, I think I
• 25:57
  listened to like year 3000 and you know, like the the first
• 25:59
  what I go to school for and the first sort of like 5-6 tracks on
• 26:02
  the album would have been the first ones that I really, really
• 26:04
  listened to. And like all the way it was a
• 26:07
  bit more of an obscure 1. I don't remember it being played
• 26:09
  on like like the radio or like I used to watch like Smash Hits TV
• 26:15
  and I don't. Yeah.
• 26:17
  And I don't really remember. Then again, I was like 10, so
• 26:20
  you know, I probably wouldn't have.
• 26:21
  Remembered that, Yeah. But I actually, I tell you
• 26:23
  something. I do remember watching that
• 26:25
  performance on CDUK, the one that we've posted on Instagram.
• 26:28
  Yeah, Yeah, I remember because I used to watch CDUK every single
• 26:32
  weekend with my mum and my brother.
• 26:35
  And I actually remember because I hadn't.
• 26:38
  That's the first time I heard the song.
• 26:41
  So I I had the album, but I'd not like really listen to the
• 26:45
  songs I mean. The ones you really like.
• 26:48
  Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's at that age you're like,
• 26:50
  Oh my God, what I go to school for?
• 26:53
  Yeah, exactly. But I remember seeing this on
• 26:55
  the telly and I remember thinking, Oh my God, these boys
• 26:59
  can sang like these boys, these boys can sing.
• 27:05
  I used to think that it was like it was because all the other
• 27:09
  songs are fun and rocky and like.
• 27:12
  Silly and. Exciting and silly and this was
• 27:15
  like bearing in mind. Again, I will reiterate, I
• 27:19
  didn't understand the lyrics but I thought it was so sweet.
• 27:25
  Yeah. Oh yeah.
• 27:26
  It's like the air of it. Like, in terms of like the tone,
• 27:30
  it's quite romantic. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 27:34
  I'm like it's almost. He's like, I, I know, you know,
• 27:36
  I've had it up to here. Yeah, really.
• 27:38
  That's what he's saying. But he's like, you know, I've
• 27:40
  had it up to. He's like, how are you like?
• 27:43
  Dreamy, you need to be more clear, girl.
• 27:47
  Stop telling me you're gonna go all the way and then telling me
• 27:49
  no, you bitch. That's pretty much what it was
• 27:51
  your. What's your rating though?
• 27:53
  So I interrupted you. What's your rating?
• 27:55
  Sorry. I'd give it a give it a six,
• 27:58
  maybe a six and a half, a six, 6 1/2.
• 28:01
  I do like it. I think there are better songs.
• 28:03
  I'm not sure it's worthy of a seven.
• 28:05
  I think I'll stick with six. Yeah.
• 28:07
  But I do, I do feel like of the, it is very odd for the time.
• 28:11
  It's not now when you look at it as an adult and we live in, you
• 28:15
  know, the consent culture that we live in, Life wasn't like
• 28:19
  that back then. I can remember being at school
• 28:21
  and boys thinking it was OK to just grab you.
• 28:23
  Like that happened all the time. That was just a normal thing.
• 28:26
  Do you know what I mean? Used to go to like under 18
• 28:29
  clubs and just get smacked on the bum like all the time.
• 28:31
  Like that was just a normal thing, people trying to grab you
• 28:34
  and lift your skirts up and stuff.
• 28:35
  Like now that's like a serious offence, do you know what I
• 28:39
  mean? Like that was just, that was our
• 28:41
  life. You've got you've got to
• 28:43
  understand things are getting out of hand.
• 28:47
  You can't just leave me sitting here unseen to I'm so.
• 28:52
  Sorry babe, I'd never discuss. You know I don't know what to do
• 28:58
  or how long to wait for you. You said you needed time, so I
• 29:02
  won't rush you. I won't rush you, but you said
• 29:05
  that you would, and then you changed your mind.
• 29:06
  How could you do this to me? It's just so unkind.
• 29:08
  Such a bitch. Oh, and it's cruel.
• 29:13
  It's cruel. If you say that, you'll go all
• 29:15
  the way. It's cruel.
• 29:17
  She's being cruel because she doesn't want to sleep with it.
• 29:22
  So bad. It's cruel.
• 29:24
  It's so bad. I can't.
• 29:25
  Wait for the day that you don't change your mind.
• 29:29
  Can't wait. Bring it on.
• 29:35
  Can we talk about the the bridge?
• 29:37
  Because good old man, because actually Charlie sings the first
• 29:42
  verse, they will sing the chorus.
• 29:43
  James sings the second verse, they will sing the chorus.
• 29:47
  And then Matt, I'll never let you down.
• 29:51
  I'll always be around when you need someone to catch you when
• 29:57
  you fall down. Oh my God, Matt, I love you so
• 29:59
  much. Can I just?
• 30:01
  Say, if you, if you decide. You want to.
• 30:04
  Yeah. Thank you.
• 30:05
  Babe, yeah, if you want me to say that I'm only a phone call
• 30:07
  away. Just.
• 30:08
  Call me, I'll come over. And that is that should have
• 30:11
  been the. Error of the song I think.
• 30:13
  I romanticise that bridge so hard actually when you listen to
• 30:20
  it as an adult in context with the rest of the song.
• 30:24
  Matt's the worst. They're all being very honest.
• 30:27
  He's guilt tripping the fuck out of her.
• 30:29
  Probably he's probably just they're.
• 30:31
  Not being really honest. Yeah, he's though James and
• 30:36
  Charlie. You're gross, but you're honest.
• 30:38
  Matt, he's like, come on, I'm only a phone call away.
• 30:41
  I'm only around the corner. Just give me a.
• 30:43
  Call if you decide. You want to get down and dirty
• 30:45
  tonight? Yeah.
• 30:48
  But like, romantically? Romantically.
• 30:51
  They'll be very petals. I didn't see it like that.
• 30:53
  I always saw it. Oh well, I say it always.
• 30:55
  I didn't see it at all badly in that light before.
• 30:58
  But I think as an adult, I saw it as always seen it as Matt
• 31:00
  trying to like reclaim some of that that manly, you know, power
• 31:05
  without being an absolute sleaze ball and saying you're a
• 31:09
  horrible woman because you won't sleep with me.
• 31:12
  That's just, it's just hilarious to me.
• 31:14
  Who wrote this song? Who was it?
• 31:16
  James. Oh, let's have a look.
• 31:18
  Let me do producer who wrote. Oh, hang on, because there's
• 31:26
  always a few. Sometimes they've got extras,
• 31:28
  haven't they? James and Charlie, along with
• 31:31
  songwriter and producer Steve Robson.
• 31:33
  James Bourne. Yeah.
• 31:36
  James. And Charlie.
• 31:37
  No, Matt. Matt gets the.
• 31:39
  That's why Matt. That's why Matt gets the the
• 31:42
  bridge. Because it's the nicest thing.
• 31:43
  Because he didn't write it. Yeah.
• 31:46
  James Bourne with that bloody cap and those I mean.
• 31:50
  I don't get me wrong, James Bond till I die.
• 31:54
  Peace to James, love him so much.
• 31:57
  He wasn't the heartthrob of Busted, let's put it that way.
• 32:00
  And actually. I think he wrote this song
• 32:01
  because he wasn't getting laid. That's what I think.
• 32:04
  He wanted people to think that he wasn't, but it wasn't his
• 32:08
  fault. It was their fault.
• 32:09
  Girls just don't want to sleep with me and they're bitches for
• 32:12
  it. Can I bring up the first episode
• 32:17
  or Part 1 of Matt Willis's Memory Lane episode on On the
• 32:22
  Mend? Because he talks about how, and
• 32:26
  it doesn't really relate to this song.
• 32:27
  But from what you just said, we talked about how James wasn't
• 32:29
  really the heartthrob and how Charlie and Matt were always
• 32:32
  like the ones that like the girls always wanted a little bit
• 32:34
  more. They were a bit more like, you
• 32:35
  know, he said, he described like when when Charlie decided he
• 32:40
  wanted to leave the band, he actually said that Charlie told
• 32:44
  Matt before he told anyone else, like he he assumed, but Matt was
• 32:48
  wasted and was like, yeah, man, you know, you do you like you've
• 32:52
  got to do you, you've got to put have faith in yourself, you
• 32:55
  know. And then the next day he was
• 32:56
  like, oh fuck, he's leaving the band.
• 32:58
  Like I told him to leave, man. But Matt goes on to say how when
• 33:05
  when they split, James sort of went to Matt and said, you know,
• 33:08
  what do we do? Do we just carry on without him?
• 33:10
  Do you want to like carry on the ban without him?
• 33:12
  And Matt was like, no, because we're only busted with him.
• 33:17
  We tried to do it with just me and you and we didn't get
• 33:19
  anywhere. And he said when you looked at
• 33:22
  all the pictures on the magazines and the billboards and
• 33:25
  the posters and everything, it was always Charlie in the centre
• 33:28
  and then then these two. And I think he described him as
• 33:30
  like 2 dorky or dweeby guys in the background.
• 33:34
  I was like, Oh my, give yourself more credit because we love you.
• 33:39
  But that was the way it was portrayed.
• 33:41
  Charlie was the heartthrob. Charlie was.
• 33:43
  We were in the eyebrow era. Yeah, James was the sort of
• 33:48
  nerdy, dweely one that like, you know, us nerds loved.
• 33:51
  And then Matt was like the bad boy with the attitude and the
• 33:54
  spiky hair and the purple spiky hair and the studded belts and,
• 33:57
  you know, like they had very different energies, the three of
• 34:01
  them that worked really well together.
• 34:04
  I think they made the right decision.
• 34:05
  I think if Busted had been just James and Matt after that, it
• 34:08
  would have plunked and nothing would have come of them again.
• 34:12
  Do you know what I mean? And I'm so glad that it worked
• 34:14
  out the way it did for them because we love Busted.
• 34:17
  And for all of you McFly fly girls and boys out there that
• 34:21
  listen to only the McFly episodes, you won't be listening
• 34:23
  to this anyway. But I know that there are people
• 34:26
  that skip the Busted episode, which is fine, but we are
• 34:32
  hashtag Galaxy crashers forever. Love both of the bands equally.
• 34:36
  I mean, we obviously have said that we are probably more McFly
• 34:39
  girls than Busted, but that does not mean that we don't love
• 34:41
  them. And it's only because they
• 34:42
  weren't around long enough for us to become better.
• 34:45
  I think it's because I've grown with McFly.
• 34:48
  I don't think it's 'cause I like them anymore.
• 34:51
  It's just Busted became a nostalgic band, whereas McFly
• 34:55
  was still there. They were.
• 34:57
  There. They were there constantly.
• 34:59
  Yeah, exactly. We didn't.
• 35:00
  Have enough time? More than the other.
• 35:02
  Yeah, we didn't have enough time with Busted.
• 35:03
  That's the main thing. That's all it is.
• 35:05
  And I think they changed so much, didn't they, when they
• 35:07
  came back as well? Like with we were just talking
• 35:09
  about this, we were talking about the episodes to come and
• 35:11
  like we're talking about the Night Driver album and like how
• 35:14
  it was such a different sound for them.
• 35:16
  And like, I think when we get to Night Driver and we compare that
• 35:19
  to halfway there, it's going to be so weird because Halfway
• 35:22
  there is Busted. Night Driver is not the Busted
• 35:26
  that we knew. And I think that's why the album
• 35:28
  didn't quite do as well as we thought it was going to.
• 35:33
  But yeah, I mean, to sum up this song, catchy, vibey back in the
• 35:38
  day, I loved it. Now with kind of culture that we
• 35:42
  live in, probably not very good in terms of its lyrics, not
• 35:48
  socially acceptable. So just for fun, I, you know, I
• 35:53
  have a bit of a love for ChatGPT.
• 35:56
  I. I use ChatGPT occasionally to
• 35:59
  help me write emails and stuff I can't be bothered to write
• 36:04
  myself because GPT writes them better than me.
• 36:08
  I thought I'd ask ChatGPT to rewrite the song all the way,
• 36:13
  but with 2026 vibes of consent and healthy relationships.
• 36:17
  And I'm not going to lie, I was actually quite impressed.
• 36:21
  I genuinely, I asked ChatGPT to rewrite it, keeping the same
• 36:26
  structure, the same rhyming patterns, the same syllable, so
• 36:29
  that you could still sing it in the same way but with different
• 36:32
  lyrics. So I'm just going to read you a
• 36:33
  few of the the changes. First one.
• 36:37
  Sing it to me. I'm.
• 36:38
  Not going to sing it to you, although I could do because it's
• 36:40
  not really copyright. Because, you know, ChatGPT.
• 36:44
  OK. It happens every time.
• 36:46
  I feel the sparks align. We start to get close but then
• 36:50
  you pause me. No rush, We'll take it slow.
• 36:53
  Let the moment grow because what we have is real.
• 36:56
  I'll follow your lead and the pre chorus.
• 36:58
  Because you said that you might and I respect your mind.
• 37:01
  I'll never push your pressure. I know love takes time and it's
• 37:05
  fine if you say that you need some space.
• 37:07
  I'll honour your pace. I won't change your mind.
• 37:13
  Chorus. I mean, this isn't the chorus.
• 37:16
  This is. That was actually the chorus.
• 37:17
  This is the next verse. You've got to understand.
• 37:19
  I'm here to hold your hand. I can't just push or pull you
• 37:23
  into. I'll be right here.
• 37:25
  No need to fear. I'll wait for the moment you
• 37:28
  feel it's true. Because you've said that you
• 37:30
  might. And I respect your mind.
• 37:31
  I'll never push your pressure. I know love takes time and it's
• 37:34
  fine if you say that you need some space.
• 37:36
  I'll honour your pace. I won't change your mind.
• 37:38
  I won't change your mind, Bridge.
• 37:41
  Are you ready for the bridge? I'll never let you down.
• 37:44
  I'll always be around when you need someone to catch you.
• 37:46
  When you fall down waiting here for you if you decide you want
• 37:49
  to. If you want me to say I'm only a
• 37:51
  phone call away. Didn't change anything.
• 37:53
  Because it is the epitome of a healthy relationship.
• 37:58
  Because actually, when you put it with the rest of the song in
• 38:00
  this rewrite, it's nice. It's actually quite healthy.
• 38:03
  So fair play, that verse, that section of the song, the bridge
• 38:06
  worked. Well done.
• 38:08
  And again, because you said that you might and I respect your
• 38:11
  mind. I'll never push and pressure you
• 38:12
  and take Simon. It's fine if you say that you
• 38:14
  need some space. I'll only a pace.
• 38:16
  I won't change your mind. I won't change your mind.
• 38:19
  How do you feel? Do you like it?
• 38:21
  I think it is fucking shit. I think it's it's like, it's
• 38:31
  good, but it's. Just a bit.
• 38:33
  Sad the CD original. I think I think you might be
• 38:37
  right. Pausing.
• 38:40
  Yeah, I'll never push or pressure.
• 38:43
  I know love takes time, and it's fine if you.
• 38:45
  Oh, yeah. Hang on.
• 38:46
  Where's the pause, Bert? I'll never push or pressure you.
• 38:50
  No rush would. Yeah, we start to get close, but
• 38:53
  then you pause me. No rush.
• 38:55
  We'll take it slow. Let the moment grow.
• 38:58
  Because what we have is real. I'll follow your lead because
• 39:01
  you said that you might. And I respect your mind.
• 39:04
  I'll never push your pressure. You.
• 39:05
  I know love takes time and it's fine if you say that you need
• 39:09
  some space. I'll honour your pace.
• 39:11
  I won't change your mind. OK, can I just say I now think I
• 39:18
  give the original an 8? 10 out of 10, but.
• 39:25
  For. GPT I mean, it's very 2026 with
• 39:28
  healthy vibes of consent, right? Doesn't really make for a good
• 39:32
  song, but lyrically it's nice. So we've talked about Busted all
• 39:39
  the way and that very naughties idea of being personally
• 39:43
  offended when a girl sets a boundary, because obviously
• 39:45
  that's pretty much what they're saying.
• 39:47
  Which got us thinking, the naughties and early 20 Tens were
• 39:51
  full of pop songs that we all loved at the time, but lyrically
• 39:55
  are absolutely. Wild in hindsight, yeah.
• 40:00
  So we asked you guys on our socials what songs you think
• 40:03
  haven't aged well and these are some of your answers mixed in
• 40:07
  with a few of our own ideas. Can I just say this first one
• 40:11
  was the first song that I thought about when we started
• 40:15
  like thinking about this section, we said that we might
• 40:18
  do songs with like lyrics that perhaps aren't of today's time.
• 40:23
  My first, my first choice. And this was also one of the
• 40:26
  ones that was sent in is Unfaithful by Rihanna, which was
• 40:29
  released released in 2006. Now you best believe believe I
• 40:36
  screamed this song. Yeah, right.
• 40:39
  Also, why was I? Why was I loving this song?
• 40:42
  And also weirdly feeling sorry for Rihanna.
• 40:45
  Literally she's cheating on this guy.
• 40:48
  Like the song is very it is quite heartbreaking and it is
• 40:53
  beautifully written in the in the musicality of it, the
• 40:57
  crescendos and the like lifts. Like I love the musicality of
• 41:05
  it, but it's actually completely about how bad she feels for
• 41:11
  cheating on her partner. Yeah, but she doesn't even feel
• 41:15
  bad though. She doesn't.
• 41:17
  Yeah, she does. She does, she says.
• 41:18
  It kills me inside. That's the lyric.
• 41:21
  I feel it in the air as I'm doing my hair prefer preparing
• 41:25
  for another date. A kiss upon my cheek as he
• 41:28
  reluctantly as it asks if I'm going to be out late.
• 41:31
  I say I won't be long, I'm just hanging with the girls.
• 41:34
  A lie I didn't have to tell because we both know where I'm
• 41:37
  about to go and we know it very well.
• 41:42
  And I know that he I need to stop singing.
• 41:44
  I'm sorry everyone, I'm not a pop singer.
• 41:48
  I love his trust. I might as well take a gun and
• 41:51
  put it to his head. Get over with.
• 41:54
  Yeah, yeah, Brutal. It's very brutal.
• 41:57
  She's killing it as well. It's like we, she says.
• 42:01
  And I know that he knows I'm unfaithful and it kills, kills
• 42:05
  him inside to know that I'm happy with another guy.
• 42:09
  She doesn't say that she feels bad.
• 42:10
  She says that he feels bad, which is in my head, that in my
• 42:15
  head she was saying that she feels bad.
• 42:17
  But actually, when you think about the actual lyrics, she
• 42:19
  doesn't say that she says that he feels bad.
• 42:22
  So really, the guy that's being cheated on in this song is just
• 42:24
  a prop. So we can feel bad for her
• 42:25
  crying in the rain. I feel like, I feel like this
• 42:31
  song could have like her crying in the background.
• 42:34
  Do you know what I mean? You know the music video, it's
• 42:36
  like tear. No, it's not tears, is it?
• 42:38
  It's like raindrops in the. Music video, yeah.
• 42:40
  Yeah, yeah, Like in my head, that was her crying and I'm
• 42:42
  feeling sorry for her. Why am I feeling sorry for you?
• 42:45
  Exactly. And it like one of the main
• 42:48
  things I think is very much like, it's not when you think of
• 42:52
  somebody committing adultery, somebody cheating somebody, you
• 42:54
  know, the cheater is the the person that should have the
• 42:59
  consequences. Do you know, I mean, like she
• 43:01
  should be the one that's suffering.
• 43:03
  And actually it's him. And she's saying I might as well
• 43:06
  put a gun to his head and get it over with because he's going to
• 43:08
  die because I'm. So much he's going to.
• 43:11
  Die. She's not that she's going to
• 43:15
  hurt him. She like is hurting him because
• 43:17
  he knows. She's already doing it.
• 43:18
  Yeah, exactly. A lie she didn't have to tell
• 43:21
  because they she. Did it anyway.
• 43:23
  Yeah. They know that she's cheating on
• 43:24
  him anyway, So what? What's the point?
• 43:26
  Might as well just do it. Do you know what I mean?
• 43:27
  Absolutely disgusting. And very much like, like
• 43:31
  victimising her, like, for feeling guilty.
• 43:36
  Yeah. Do you know what I mean?
• 43:37
  It's like we're trying to, we're looking at her feeling guilty as
• 43:40
  a tragedy. And I think that is just
• 43:42
  ridiculous. That's not the tragedy in that
• 43:45
  song. The tragedy is you being a bitch
• 43:47
  and cheating on your man when he's at home, you know, looking
• 43:50
  out for you, wondering where you are.
• 43:52
  Stop it. Actual idea.
• 43:55
  So, yeah, that was and that was the first one that I thought of
• 43:58
  when we started talking about this segment.
• 43:59
  So there we go. Do you want to do the next one?
• 44:03
  OK, so another one we were sent in was Justin Timberlake's Cry
• 44:07
  Me a River. I this is a banger in my eyes.
• 44:12
  I love this kind of like music. Like this is where I go to when
• 44:17
  I listen to nostalgic music. Yes, it's about Brittany
• 44:22
  apparently sleeping with her choreographer.
• 44:24
  And Brittany also did a retaliation to that, which was
• 44:28
  every time. So that was her retaliation to.
• 44:33
  Which was quite a brutal music video from what I recall of
• 44:37
  every time. And I remember her being in the
• 44:39
  bath, like slitting her wrists or something, you know, trigger
• 44:42
  warning. It was it's it's very emotional,
• 44:46
  very like suicide heavy, like completely opposite to what he's
• 44:53
  done with this song because this song is very much oh, cry me a
• 44:55
  river, get over it. And then she's like in the bath.
• 44:58
  She's basically saying I can't get over it.
• 45:01
  Literally. So I think it's very, yeah, it
• 45:05
  it create a very public scenario, didn't it, at the end
• 45:10
  of the day? Yeah, but I think back then it
• 45:13
  was so normal to publicise your break UPS like you had like,
• 45:21
  well, the big one obviously is Justin and Brittany.
• 45:25
  They went everywhere. But you had like, Brad Pitt and
• 45:30
  Jen. I went to say Rachel from
• 45:33
  Friends then. Jennifer Aniston Yeah, yeah, I
• 45:36
  get. You like you had all of the
• 45:38
  like. Every breakup was so public,
• 45:41
  like every time David Beckham cheated on Victoria Beckham.
• 45:43
  It was everywhere, everywhere. That was, I think it, like you
• 45:46
  said, it's the media from the naughties.
• 45:48
  It was very much about exposing people and like it being very
• 45:52
  heavy on, on scandal, you know, and I mean.
• 45:55
  Yeah, we still. We still see scandal.
• 45:57
  We all remember the I'm A Celebrity issue again, it's
• 46:01
  paparazzi and it's it's scandal and it's wanting to expose to
• 46:07
  the world when actually those types of scenarios and and the
• 46:11
  way that that situation was handled was the best way it
• 46:14
  could have been handled. There was just nothing.
• 46:16
  There was no replies. There was one comment made and
• 46:19
  that's it. And that was how it needed to be
• 46:21
  addressed. It needed to be.
• 46:23
  Everybody knew that it'd happened and everybody knew that
• 46:25
  it needed to be addressed, but it did not need to be made into
• 46:27
  this massive thing. And the longer they left it
• 46:29
  without saying anything, the more people just forgot about
• 46:31
  it. Forgot about it.
• 46:32
  Yeah, definitely. We had one statement then that
• 46:35
  was it. Yeah, yeah, 100%.
• 46:37
  But back then, like you would see that as oh, like I think I
• 46:42
  feel like his producers and his management team and all of that
• 46:46
  saw the break up as a money making scheme.
• 46:49
  Oh God. I mean, it was for everything.
• 46:52
  Yeah, yeah. And I think it paved the way for
• 46:55
  like, there were so many. Like tit for tat.
• 47:00
  Tit for tat that just sold songs like Eamonn and Frankie they
• 47:06
  Fuck you and the fuck you right back songs.
• 47:08
  Anybody know who they are anymore?
• 47:10
  Can I also just say to people listening that me and Shannon
• 47:12
  just had a little bitch fit when we remembered this about 5
• 47:14
  minutes ago songs because we we could remember what it was about
• 47:18
  but. Couldn't remember who it was.
• 47:19
  And then we Googled and then we were like, Oh my God, this song.
• 47:21
  How? But I tell you what, I know
• 47:23
  those lyrics like I know my child's birthday.
• 47:28
  Like I swear down maybe better. I used to just scream this and
• 47:33
  you know what I can remember her, her retaliation.
• 47:36
  Fuck you right back being talking about him having crabs,
• 47:40
  having crabs and smoking crack. She says she must be smoking
• 47:44
  crack, telling everybody just how you feel like girl.
• 47:50
  And it was again, a lot of the retaliation.
• 47:54
  You know, he said this, so she said this.
• 47:57
  It was all a ploy. It wasn't even real.
• 48:01
  Those songs were written because of the way that Justin versus
• 48:05
  Britney, Jen versus Brad, all this stuff was going on.
• 48:08
  So they were like, oh, let's make music about breakups and
• 48:11
  see if people will listen to them.
• 48:12
  And suckers that we are. All downloaded them from
• 48:15
  Limewire, put them on our MP3 players.
• 48:18
  I loved them. I loved the shit out of those
• 48:21
  two. 1000 and three 2004 like it was early early songs that we
• 48:27
  again 2004 I was 11, 11 and I was singing You must be smoking
• 48:32
  crack and you fuck. Those presents, I threw all that
• 48:37
  shit out. Fuck all that crying.
• 48:41
  It didn't mean Jack. Fuck you, you ho.
• 48:44
  I don't want you back. Like what?
• 48:49
  Oh God, this episode's going to be so much longer than we need
• 48:52
  it to be because there's still so many songs and it's just so
• 48:55
  much fun. Just cut all the rest of the
• 48:56
  episode. It'll just be 1 episode talking
• 48:58
  about this stuff. Can I add in one that I had a
• 49:01
  moment ago that just sprung to my head that we haven't got on
• 49:04
  this list? Does anybody remember first day
• 49:09
  I saw her was at the train station.
• 49:11
  The train station. She was half black, half called
• 49:14
  Cajun. Cajun, does anybody remember
• 49:16
  this? The last.
• 49:16
  Line man she. Was that girl?
• 49:19
  Was it 14? 14 yeah, girl was 14.
• 49:24
  So the song we're talking about is Charmaine.
• 49:27
  Is it Plan B? I'm pretty sure it's Plan B, and
• 49:30
  it's called Charmaine. Yeah, and it is literally.
• 49:32
  Is it on the playlist? Yes, because I feel like an
• 49:34
  absolute gangster when I sing along.
• 49:36
  But oh God, you know. It's all it's literally about
• 49:40
  him having sex with a 14 year old.
• 49:42
  Girl. Get out of my mind.
• 49:45
  My love is way out of line. He knows how bad it is and he's
• 49:52
  still like, young. Girl.
• 49:54
  Get. Out what, Jeffrey?
• 49:58
  Can we just oh God, let's not get on that controversial.
• 50:07
  Can I also just highlight how obviously it the the song is is
• 50:13
  it's illegal what he's thinking about Yeah, it's literally like
• 50:18
  considered illegal, you know things.
• 50:22
  But can we also? It's absolutely disgusting.
• 50:23
  Can we also just appreciate how normal it was for 14 year old
• 50:29
  girls to have boyfriends that were like 1819 because.
• 50:33
  I had a 19 year old. Boyfriend when I was 14, not
• 50:36
  whether my mum knew that or not, but he was 19, he was called Ben
• 50:39
  and he moved to Australia. He was a lovely guy.
• 50:42
  He was actually a really nice guy, but he was 19 and I was 14.
• 50:46
  I can remember him driving us around.
• 50:47
  He used to pick me and my friends up down the road and
• 50:49
  drive us around in his little Citroen such.
• 50:51
  So fucking weird though. Gross.
• 50:54
  Like think about it now. Gross.
• 50:55
  That's disgusting. But you at the time, that was
• 50:59
  very normal. It was really normal.
• 51:02
  Oh, nearly every girl that I knew at school, like all of we
• 51:05
  all had boyfriends that were at college, like I was 14 until I
• 51:10
  met, I met my high school sweetheart Zach, like before
• 51:15
  that, but I was very persistent with him.
• 51:18
  He really didn't want a girlfriend and I was like,
• 51:20
  you'll, you'll want me eventually.
• 51:21
  And he did and we were together for two years.
• 51:24
  So, you know, I got there in the end, But I, I like, he was the
• 51:28
  only boyfriend I had that was my age.
• 51:30
  I always had a boyfriend that was older than me.
• 51:33
  It's so weird because like I thought when I was in, what year
• 51:37
  was I in? I think I was in year 9.
• 51:40
  I had a boyfriend who was in sixth form and I felt, I
• 51:44
  remember feeling really weird about that.
• 51:46
  And it that isn't even that much older, that's like 3 years older
• 51:50
  ish. But it didn't really odd for me,
• 51:55
  like I did not like that. Yeah, I didn't at all.
• 51:59
  I fancy Justin Bieber. Well, yeah.
• 52:03
  He was singing Young Boy, Get out of My Mind because he's a
• 52:09
  year younger than you. Yeah.
• 52:13
  Yeah, no, I just think it was a very different time for age gaps
• 52:17
  and and things like that. It was very strange, but we all,
• 52:20
  we all had that had boyfriends that could drive and like would
• 52:23
  pick us up after school in their cars.
• 52:26
  And I can remember the school like ringing my mum to say like
• 52:30
  Taylor's getting picked up by a guy in a car.
• 52:32
  Like, do you know who this is? And she was like, Oh yeah, it's
• 52:34
  her boyfriend. Like it she knew who he was.
• 52:36
  I don't know whether she knew he was 19.
• 52:38
  I think I may have told her he was 17, who knows?
• 52:42
  Sorry mum, but he was really nice, like he was.
• 52:45
  There was no like pressure or anything with him.
• 52:46
  We literally were just like. I love that you knew it was
• 52:49
  wrong enough to lie about his age.
• 52:51
  Oh yeah, 100. Percent, you didn't.
• 52:53
  I think it was because he was like, he was like driving and
• 52:56
  stuff and like I knew my mum would have been fuming about me
• 52:59
  having a boyfriend who was like 19.
• 53:01
  She would not have been happy with that.
• 53:02
  I was 40, do you know what I mean?
• 53:05
  But there was no we, we, we were always just like, it was very
• 53:08
  like hold hands and kiss and hug.
• 53:10
  And it was, there was nothing more to it.
• 53:11
  But it was still really not OK, because who did?
• 53:14
  Who's to say that it wouldn't have eventually been like that
• 53:17
  if he hadn't have moved away or, you know, like I was still
• 53:20
  really young. Yeah, really strange, really
• 53:22
  weird. But again, happened a lot so.
• 53:26
  I just had like a huge flashback about Lee, who was the boy that
• 53:30
  I dated who was in sick form. And I remember I fancied him for
• 53:33
  ages and then we dated literally for two weeks because once I'd
• 53:38
  got him, I didn't like him. Like his whole persona gave me
• 53:42
  the ick so bad. And I broke up with him over
• 53:45
  text because I was like, sorry, I've got to concentrate on my
• 53:48
  GCSE's. But it was like in 30 characters
• 53:51
  or 30 words, because you couldn't text that much, that
• 53:54
  many words when you were like. Back then, is that his name?
• 53:57
  Lee. Honestly, I fancied I've
• 53:59
  answered him so much. And then yeah, I think 2 weeks
• 54:03
  we went for a walk I remember through a place called Saint
• 54:06
  Mary Church. We went for this walk and I
• 54:09
  remember thinking, stop talking. Your voice is so fucking
• 54:12
  annoying. You're.
• 54:16
  Such a. Bitch, how brutal is that?
• 54:19
  Like I would just say that like, yeah, Madden, it was awful and I
• 54:24
  fancied him for so long. For so long.
• 54:28
  I was thinking of I like I was very my high school sweetheart.
• 54:33
  I was very persistent with and he always used to say he used to
• 54:36
  say I was persistent, which I I probably didn't know that word
• 54:39
  before he dropped me. I he was, he was, oh, bless him.
• 54:46
  He was such a little nerdy little.
• 54:47
  He was in a band, so he used to play the drums, which was kind
• 54:50
  of cool. So I think I liked that he was
• 54:53
  just a really good guy. He was like clever and I knew he
• 54:56
  came from a nice family and like, I don't know, just just
• 54:59
  really liked him and he never really wanted a girlfriend.
• 55:02
  So he was just like, no, no, I don't want a girlfriend, don't
• 55:04
  want a girlfriend. And I was just like, dude, come
• 55:06
  the fuck up. You will, you're in year 9.
• 55:08
  Come on, it's time to have a girlfriend.
• 55:10
  Got him in the end. He then broke up with me at
• 55:12
  college two years later and broke my heart.
• 55:16
  But he's a nice guy. You know, like over the years,
• 55:18
  like we, we've like spoken here and there.
• 55:20
  You know, he's supporting a message when we got married and
• 55:23
  when we had Molly to say, you know, congratulations and stuff.
• 55:25
  And it's nice that you can have that with like, because I'm in
• 55:28
  Christ. We were 17 when I broke up.
• 55:30
  We broke up like we don't know each.
• 55:31
  Other at all. No, sorry, but you know.
• 55:35
  Everyone gave me the echo you. Know yeah you don't speak to any
• 55:38
  of them anymore because they all give you I think he's the only
• 55:41
  he's the only ex-boyfriend that I would like say hello to in the
• 55:44
  street though do you know what I mean oh the rest I would cross
• 55:48
  cross the road no thank you anyway moving on now this one
• 55:54
  hurts a little bit because as we all know this is an absolute
• 55:57
  banger and we love Tay Tay but lyrically it's very very early
• 56:04
  it's 2010 so very early twenty 10's and it's very misogynistic
• 56:09
  it's better than revenge which. I won't hear a bad word said
• 56:14
  about this. Such a good song.
• 56:16
  And I again, scream it, but it's very much aimed the the song is
• 56:22
  aimed at the girl that her boyfriend is cheating on her
• 56:26
  with. Well, not Yeah, like, pretty
• 56:29
  much. So she's pretty much saying he
• 56:31
  gets a free pass, but she's pissed off with her.
• 56:34
  And I just think it's really like, I don't know, it's a bit
• 56:37
  like sad, you know, like he's the one that's cheating on you,
• 56:40
  babe. Do you know what I mean?
• 56:41
  I can, I, I find that really hard.
• 56:43
  Like, but I've been in that situation and like, like
• 56:46
  obviously they if, if she knows, then it's a bit different.
• 56:49
  She knows that he's got a girlfriend and he's cheating on
• 56:51
  her, then yeah, she's a bitch. But equally he's also a prick.
• 56:54
  He needs to be put in his place too.
• 56:58
  And obviously we know that she did the lyric change.
• 57:00
  So the original lyric change was in the chorus that she's better
• 57:06
  known for the things that she does on the mattress, which is
• 57:09
  very much slut shaming. And Taylor has addressed this
• 57:13
  herself in that she doesn't like the lyrics and she knows that
• 57:17
  slut shaming isn't good and whatever.
• 57:19
  So she changed the lyrics to he was a moth to the flame.
• 57:22
  She was holding the matches and both, you know, good map, good
• 57:27
  lyrics. She knew that the original
• 57:29
  wasn't probably the best choice after, you know, looking back at
• 57:32
  it, when she got to re record them, she changed them.
• 57:34
  But you and I both know what we sing when we're in the car.
• 57:38
  Yeah. Original 100%.
• 57:39
  Can I just say though right? I agree that this should be on
• 57:45
  this list mainly for that line. However, she's she's done a
• 57:49
  Tricky 1 here because in the original picture to burn, so she
• 57:55
  hasn't redone the album. She changed the lyric on the
• 57:59
  original song from Tell Your Friends, blah blah blah.
• 58:05
  Don't worry, I'll tell mine you're gay.
• 58:08
  She erased that lyric from her whole discography.
• 58:12
  If she really didn't like the song, if she didn't, if she I
• 58:15
  think she knows this line slaps. Yeah, because she could have
• 58:19
  just got rid of her like she did the other one.
• 58:21
  And on the note of what you've just mentioned about the line
• 58:25
  that she took about she'll tell people that he's gay, one of the
• 58:28
  other songs that were sent in was You're So Gay by Katy Perry.
• 58:33
  You're so gay and you don't even.
• 58:35
  Like and you don't even like. Can you remember that which?
• 58:38
  Again, it's very much a time capsule.
• 58:41
  It was very cheeky and edgy, but actually now it's a reminder of
• 58:44
  how casually queerness was used as an insult. 100% actually.
• 58:50
  Like I've had this conversation with people over the years and,
• 58:53
  and actually using words like, oh, that's so gay.
• 58:56
  And like, it's so, it's so it's horrible to actually admit.
• 59:00
  But like, I reckon 5-6 years ago I probably would have still used
• 59:06
  that as an insult. Like, yeah, on purpose.
• 59:09
  But like the way that my brain had been programmed from the
• 59:12
  early, like the late naughties and that and 20.
• 59:14
  Ten, yeah, 100%. It's it that's gay?
• 59:18
  Do you know what I mean? Like no, no, no, like.
• 59:21
  I think though, there are quite a few words like that, like so
• 59:25
  my friend Gemma, and I know she won't mind me saying this
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  because she's very honest about it.
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  She thinks the word stupid, she hates it because it's a really
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  rubbish way to insult someone. But also she was called stupid
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  her whole childhood because she had dyslexia.
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  Dyslexia, right? Yeah, yeah.
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  And it's the same way, isn't it? Like you don't realise a sort of
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  word when you're that young. I say that young.
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  It's not even that young. Like even like 10 years ago,
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  like I probably would have said that's so stupid.
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  Do you know what I mean? You don't realise how bad it is
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  because it doesn't affect you personally.
• 1:00:03
  Oh yeah, 100%. I think that's why.
• 1:00:05
  What was I watched something. I've watched something with
• 1:00:08
  Jack. Oh, it was the Stranger Things
• 1:00:10
  finale spoiler for If Nobody's Seen it when Will comes out to
• 1:00:16
  everybody. There was a lot of hate on that
• 1:00:19
  scene. There was a lot of like, oh, you
• 1:00:21
  know, he's got everyone together and blower man is really, you
• 1:00:24
  know, they didn't like how it was done.
• 1:00:26
  And like, I actually got really emotional watching it.
• 1:00:29
  And like, I think I, I remember looking over at Jack and I was
• 1:00:32
  crying and he sort of looked at me like, why are you crying?
• 1:00:35
  And I said to him after I said, I'm not crying because it's sad.
• 1:00:38
  I'm crying because I know so many men and.
• 1:00:41
  Women. I've had to do that.
• 1:00:44
  And like when you know that that has that what you're actually
• 1:00:48
  witnessing as being like somebody else's had to live
• 1:00:51
  through sitting there and saying that to their family and friends
• 1:00:54
  and feeling that fear that they are going to be completely
• 1:00:56
  rejected. I had a best friend at school
• 1:00:59
  whose mum kicked him out when he came out to her and he was like
• 1:01:02
  17 and she just said get out, you're not living here anymore.
• 1:01:05
  And that was it. Like he moved out and he never
• 1:01:07
  moved back in again. Like how mental is that?
• 1:01:10
  Do you know what I mean? Like it's just but you don't
• 1:01:13
  think about it because it doesn't apply to you.
• 1:01:15
  So when it does start to apply to you or you know people close
• 1:01:18
  to you. 2 of my best friends in. The whole entire world are.
• 1:01:21
  Gay. I know that both of them had to
• 1:01:23
  come out to their parents and had to come out to their friends
• 1:01:26
  and had to go through that. And that's why I think it's it
• 1:01:30
  plays more on your mind. You know what I mean?
• 1:01:32
  It's hard. But also along that line with
• 1:01:34
  Katy Perry, like still on the same subject.
• 1:01:37
  She had this like ongoing theme though, didn't she?
• 1:01:40
  Because she had I kissed a girl. Oh yeah.
• 1:01:43
  Yeah, yeah, she's very queer, toyed with the idea of being.
• 1:01:47
  Yeah, like, but then she's an advocate for LGBT.
• 1:01:50
  Yeah, she's an advocate for LGBT rights.
• 1:01:53
  So it's very strange because she pushes for, you know, like even
• 1:01:58
  raw, like the the concept of raw and the story behind it and like
• 1:02:04
  the even the music video a little bit.
• 1:02:05
  I think they had that sort of like, wasn't there a drag queen
• 1:02:08
  or something in the music videos?
• 1:02:09
  I can't remember, but I think the concept of that was was
• 1:02:12
  pushing those rights forward. So let's just have a quick look
• 1:02:16
  through the others because we're already quite far into this
• 1:02:19
  episode. We probably should start
• 1:02:20
  rounding off 1 less lonely girl Justin Bieber.
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  Great song. Definitely had a yeah.
• 1:02:27
  No notes there. Definitely love this.
• 1:02:30
  But actually it sounds lovely until you realise that what he's
• 1:02:33
  actually saying is there's so many lonely girls.
• 1:02:35
  I'll just pick one. Yeah, but honestly, back then
• 1:02:39
  I'd have put my hand up. Oh, I'd have been her.
• 1:02:42
  I'd have been her. And in the staging of it, when
• 1:02:44
  he performed it live, I saw him live in the O2.
• 1:02:47
  Bear in mind, I actually sat in the back row of the O2 because I
• 1:02:50
  didn't have any money. It was absolutely like 18.
• 1:02:52
  I think that. Was me for Mcbusted the no.
• 1:02:56
  Busting busting buddy won't fly. He literally would just get
• 1:03:00
  somebody out of the crowd and put them on stage on a chair and
• 1:03:03
  then just like dance around them and like sing to them and like
• 1:03:06
  go to kiss her, but like pull away.
• 1:03:08
  And it was like very you. Know all start overs and
• 1:03:11
  shoulders if you cried on. It was very much like, oh, oh,
• 1:03:15
  can't have me, oh, you're lonely, can't have me.
• 1:03:19
  I know. It's really weird, but very,
• 1:03:21
  very strange. Bruno Mars Grenade.
• 1:03:25
  Great song, but each equally We'll catch a grenade for you.
• 1:03:31
  Very much a dramatic declaration of love, which is lovely.
• 1:03:34
  But he's pretty much saying I'd die for you, so why don't you
• 1:03:38
  love me back? Yeah.
• 1:03:41
  Just a lot of pressure to put on someone, right?
• 1:03:43
  Because I got the ick. Yeah, sorry, I got the ick.
• 1:03:48
  Rihanna, take a bow. Marketed as empowerment.
• 1:03:50
  You know, she's very much like female strong, but it's actually
• 1:03:54
  about public humiliation. She literally says I she says go
• 1:03:58
  on and take a bow. You know, like, what's the
• 1:04:01
  lyric? And the award for the best liar
• 1:04:05
  goes to you for making me believe that you could be
• 1:04:09
  faithful to me. So let's hear your speech.
• 1:04:12
  And then it's like, hypocrite. Yeah, well, faithful exactly.
• 1:04:18
  Then wrote a song about cheating on somebody.
• 1:04:20
  So a bit weird, but it's it's very much I need you to feel bad
• 1:04:24
  in front of everybody before I can heal from this trauma that
• 1:04:28
  you've put me through. Which, again, very on brand for
• 1:04:30
  the naughties. We've talked about Katy Perry.
• 1:04:33
  Can we talk Usher Confessions Part 2?
• 1:04:38
  Trying to say this but it's coming from the heart.
• 1:04:40
  It's been a long time coming. So good, I really want to work
• 1:04:45
  this out. I know that you.
• 1:04:49
  Know that he's very aggressive, isn't it?
• 1:04:54
  I know that, you know. Oh.
• 1:04:56
  God, he literally is singing about getting another woman
• 1:05:00
  pregnant. Yeah, like that's that's pretty
• 1:05:02
  much literally the song is asking for for forgiveness after
• 1:05:06
  the absolute worst possible timing.
• 1:05:08
  It's treated as a brave thing because he's confessing, even
• 1:05:11
  though it comes with 0 plan. As for how anyone else is
• 1:05:14
  supposed to deal with what he's actually confessing, which is
• 1:05:17
  that he's knocked one up whilst cheating on somebody else.
• 1:05:20
  Not OK. Oh dear.
• 1:05:23
  Let's move to Neo, because I know you've got something that
• 1:05:25
  you want to talk about with Neo. Yeah, his.
• 1:05:31
  So I feel like I need to like say that I genuinely growing up
• 1:05:35
  loved Neo. Yes, I think so sick, so sick.
• 1:05:40
  Like my anthem. It was so sick.
• 1:05:44
  I loved it. And I thought the lyrics were.
• 1:05:45
  At the time, I thought those lyrics were genius.
• 1:05:47
  When he talks about changing his answering machine.
• 1:05:50
  Oh, yeah. I was like, oh, cut deep, you've
• 1:05:52
  cut. Oh, brut.
• 1:05:54
  Oh, yeah, I get you. Yeah, brut.
• 1:05:56
  Oh, but sexy love, sexy love. The song I used to sing as a
• 1:06:02
  child around my. House never knew dancing.
• 1:06:06
  I don't think I even knew until you brought this up a couple of
• 1:06:08
  days ago. Yeah.
• 1:06:10
  She makes the hairs on the back of my neck stand up just one
• 1:06:14
  touch and I erupt like a volcano and I cover her with my love.
• 1:06:22
  What? Sorry, what?
• 1:06:24
  Leo, so sick of love songs and now you're bringing this out?
• 1:06:27
  What? Can I just point out sometimes
• 1:06:29
  my stepdad listens to this so if he he's listening I'm really
• 1:06:33
  sorry. But it's not like we were saying
• 1:06:36
  it's inappropriate. I didn't write the song, just
• 1:06:39
  looking at the lyrics. Grim.
• 1:06:41
  Absolutely grim. Sorry, no.
• 1:06:44
  It's disgusting. I erupt like a volcano.
• 1:06:51
  Yeah, I mean, I'm not here for it.
• 1:06:52
  I I think it's very. If this was a video I would put
• 1:06:57
  like. A male POV like.
• 1:06:58
  GIF of a volcano erupting over. It sounds like something like,
• 1:07:07
  yeah, you'd hear in like an erotic novel.
• 1:07:10
  Do you know what I mean? Yeah.
• 1:07:12
  I erupt like a VOC. Yeah, but still with my love,
• 1:07:16
  sometimes some of the books I read get a little bit saucy, and
• 1:07:20
  none of them tell me that they're going to erupt like a
• 1:07:22
  volcano. No, very true.
• 1:07:24
  They definitely write it in a nicer way.
• 1:07:27
  Can we also they? Write it like a female's
• 1:07:29
  retinit. Well, yeah, true.
• 1:07:31
  While we're on the the subject of Neo, and this will be our
• 1:07:34
  last one before we wrap up today, Miss Independent was
• 1:07:39
  definitely a song that I used to think like girl power and yeah,
• 1:07:44
  I'm Miss Independent. I've got my thing.
• 1:07:46
  She got her own thing. Yes, I have.
• 1:07:49
  Yes, I can pay my own way and I got my own money and La La, La,
• 1:07:53
  La, which is great. And it's very much like, oh,
• 1:07:56
  empowering. But there's a subtle undertone
• 1:07:59
  of like, oh, a woman who can be independent and sexy.
• 1:08:03
  That's cool. Do you know what I mean?
• 1:08:06
  It's not like, hum, there's a lot of us that can be
• 1:08:09
  independent and desirable. It's not like a it's like a wow,
• 1:08:14
  good for you. Do you know what I mean?
• 1:08:16
  And I think it's very derogatory in a way that's like it's it's
• 1:08:22
  it's supposedly a song wise women feel good.
• 1:08:25
  But actually it's like, bravo, you're independent.
• 1:08:28
  You're a man. The song.
• 1:08:30
  Yeah, it's the song version of a man saying sweetie.
• 1:08:34
  Yeah. Oh, honey.
• 1:08:35
  Yeah. Oh darling.
• 1:08:36
  Yeah. Oh, honey, yeah.
• 1:08:37
  Exactly, exactly. But on the opposite side of
• 1:08:40
  that. Do you remember Pussycat Dolls?
• 1:08:42
  I don't need a man to make it happen.
• 1:08:45
  I get up to, I'm getting to nothing.
• 1:08:47
  I used to. Love I don't need a ring around
• 1:08:49
  my. Finger my finger, which is
• 1:08:52
  female empowerment and you know. Yeah, and the man.
• 1:08:56
  The opposite way round. And it's not like a oh, good for
• 1:08:59
  you. It's like, I don't need you.
• 1:09:00
  It's fine. I can do this on my own.
• 1:09:01
  There's no like, oh, I'm you're a Dick or you know, you're
• 1:09:04
  nothing because I'm independent without you.
• 1:09:06
  It's just I'm independent. I don't need, I don't need a
• 1:09:09
  man, It's fine. What are the lyrics in the Man?
• 1:09:12
  The bit that I always remember what Taylor Swift, I say I
• 1:09:15
  always remember it, but I I've forgotten it completely.
• 1:09:18
  But there's a lyric it's like about Brad Pitt, and I always
• 1:09:21
  think there's such a good line. Oh, no, it's not.
• 1:09:25
  It's about Leonardo. Leonardo DiCaprio.
• 1:09:29
  Oh. Yeah, it is.
• 1:09:31
  It just says, what's the, what's the lyric?
• 1:09:34
  Oh my God, I'm going to find it. Hang on.
• 1:09:37
  But like, it's such a simple line and it always makes me feel
• 1:09:40
  like, yes, do you know what I mean?
• 1:09:42
  Like. Yeah, and they were toasting me.
• 1:09:44
  Oh, let the players play. I'll be just like Leo.
• 1:09:47
  Just like Leo. Pay, which is very much Wolf of
• 1:09:52
  Wall Street. Yes.
• 1:09:54
  Which is pretty cool. She's saying, you know, she'd be
• 1:09:57
  the boss because he in Wolf of Wall Street, he's just got women
• 1:10:00
  everywhere and he's got money and he's throwing cash around.
• 1:10:02
  And like, that's what she's saying.
• 1:10:03
  If she was the man. Yeah.
• 1:10:06
  Very, very interesting. I mean, we probably should wrap
• 1:10:09
  this up because this is, but we're supposed to be a short
• 1:10:11
  episode and it's currently at 80 minutes.
• 1:10:16
  The thing is, none of these songs are unlistenable now.
• 1:10:19
  A lot of them are still incredible, but they are
• 1:10:22
  definitely a reminder of how we normalise things like jealousy,
• 1:10:25
  entitlement, emotional pressure, and how all of that was so
• 1:10:29
  prominent in pop lyrics. We didn't question it because we
• 1:10:32
  were just still screaming along and enjoying it.
• 1:10:34
  Enjoying the. Like Taylor wouldn't leave James
• 1:10:38
  Bond sitting. There, no, she would not unseen
• 1:10:41
  him. Let him sit there unseen.
• 1:10:44
  Sit there unseen too. Poor James.
• 1:10:49
  Another episode done and dusted. Thank you so much for listening
• 1:10:52
  and tuning in every week. We absolutely love you guys.
• 1:10:55
  We're still in awe of how many of you tune in regularly.
• 1:10:58
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• 1:11:00
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• 1:11:07
  Our next episode is a super exciting one because not only
• 1:11:10
  are we looking at Mcfly's two step banger She Left Me, but we
• 1:11:14
  are welcoming the incredible tribute band Mcflyde onto the
• 1:11:18
  podcast. We're going to be talking to
• 1:11:19
  them all about McFly, their favourite songs and moments over
• 1:11:22
  the years and hearing about what exciting things they are up to
• 1:11:25
  as well. My God, how exciting is that?
• 1:11:28
  It's really not one to miss, but for now, keep your playlist
• 1:11:32
  loud. And happiness in your hearts.
• 1:11:34
  Bye, bye, bye. None.