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Meat Pies & Soft Launches · Outspoken the Podcast

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  Speaker 1: Hello and welcome to Outspoken. It's your dose of the
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  Speaker 1: hottest influencer and pop culture news twice a week. I'm
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  Speaker 1: Sophie Torber and coming up on today's show, Sammy Robinson
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  Speaker 1: has a new man in her life, Michaela Tester's former
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  Speaker 1: manager's bold statement, and Molly May talks about.
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  Speaker 2: Baby number two.
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  Speaker 1: But first, entrepreneur Michelle Battersby has revealed the very unorthodox
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  Speaker 1: way that she eats a meat pie. The Sunroom founder
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  Speaker 1: caused a stir online, revealing she's been eating it this.
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  Speaker 2: Way her whole life.
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  Speaker 3: I haven't actually eaten a meat pie since our SOS
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  Speaker 3: teacher told us in year 11 what's in them. But
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  Speaker 3: this almost made me want to test it out.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I was in that same classroom and he said
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  Speaker 1: that there's assholes and hooves of the cows in there.
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  Speaker 1: And the fetus, that is what really put me off.
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  Speaker 1: I saw a TikTok the other day and someone found
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  Speaker 1: what looked like an asshole in a very cheaply made pie.
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  Speaker 1: I mean.
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  Speaker 3: This whole conversation isn't meant to be putting people off
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  Speaker 3: from eating pies because when Michelle ate this pie, it actually.
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  Speaker 2: Looks so delicious.
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  Speaker 3: So what she does is she firstly takes the lid
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  Speaker 3: off the pie and eats that. So the pastry lid
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  Speaker 3: And I think there's something to be said for people
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  Speaker 3: who actually eat their pies like that. I remember growing up,
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  Speaker 3: it would always be a particular girl that was quite
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  Speaker 3: a perfectionist that would be able to pull the lid
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  Speaker 3: off perfectly and then eat all the filling.
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  Speaker 1: Out of it. I've heard of people peeling the sausage
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  Speaker 1: roll and eating the pastry first and then the sausage bit,
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  Speaker 1: which looked absolutely revolting. I'm sorry for that. Doesn't sound
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  Speaker 1: appetizing to me. I want to get the pastry in
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  Speaker 1: with the mixture.
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  Speaker 3: You've got to wait. So anyway, she eats the lid
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  Speaker 3: first and then she puts tomato sauce on the meat
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  Speaker 3: and she eats all of the meat by itself.
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  Speaker 2: Well, like with a fork or something.
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  Speaker 3: But then she leaves a little bit of the meat
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  Speaker 3: in the bottom of the pie and then she gets
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  Speaker 3: a bag of light and tangy chips, crushes them up,
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  Speaker 3: puts it in the pie and then eats it as
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  Speaker 3: if it's like its own taco.
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  Speaker 1: Okay.
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  Speaker 2: Wow.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, she's actually won me over with the light
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  Speaker 1: and tangy chips. I feel like light and tangy chips
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  Speaker 1: are a blast from the past. Aren't they the chip
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  Speaker 1: that you'd have growing up.
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  Speaker 2: As a child?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a bit of a random chip though, because
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  Speaker 1: people who make chip sandwiches, I often find they'll use
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  Speaker 1: just an original plain chip. Do you remember back in
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  Speaker 1: the day when Thins used to sell that multifamily pack
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  Speaker 1: and one bag would be light and tangy and the
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  Speaker 1: other one would be plain? You'd always go for the
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  Speaker 1: light and tangy first. Yeah, this is giving me flashbacks.
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  Speaker 2: And you'd get the Tarzo chip.
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  Speaker 1: But also, I remember the bag.
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  Speaker 2: Was mostly full of air. You know what I mean?
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  Speaker 2: You hardly have any of them.
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  Speaker 3: This hack actually reminds me of one of our family traditions,
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  Speaker 3: which I grew up thinking was completely normal. So it's
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  Speaker 3: vanilla ice cream with plain chips.
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  Speaker 2: And they have to be plain chips.
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  Speaker 1: They can't be a different flavor because it's the salty
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  Speaker 1: and the sweet that goes together. I was talking about
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  Speaker 1: this combo with my husband yesterday and his family, and.
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  Speaker 2: They were like, that is so weird.
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  Speaker 1: And I'm like, you guys have to try it.
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  Speaker 2: It is elite.
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  Speaker 1: This isn't a food combination, but we got St. Maxie
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  Speaker 1: Bonds the other day. And I feel like you are
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  Speaker 1: either a biscuit first or a chocolate and ice cream first.
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  Speaker 1: And I judge people on which one they choose. I'm
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  Speaker 1: trying to think what I do.
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  Speaker 3: I think I eat the chocolate bit first because you
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  Speaker 3: hold it with the biscuit. Really?
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  Speaker 1: Well, I was disturbed because my husband told me that
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  Speaker 1: he actually likes the chocolate side the best.
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  Speaker 2: I like the biscuit.
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  Speaker 1: I would prefer if the whole thing was just made
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  Speaker 1: of biscuit.
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  Speaker 3: See, I like both because the biscuit can sometimes get
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  Speaker 3: a little bit soggy. I think if it's melted too much.
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  Speaker 1: Another weird food combo I heard the other day from
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  Speaker 1: my mother-in-law is that she grew up eating sugar and
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  Speaker 1: apple sandwiches.
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  Speaker 3: Hang on.
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  Speaker 1: Do you mean stewed apples? Well, my understanding is that
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  Speaker 1: she meant slices of apple that had sugar sprinkled on them.
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  Speaker 1: Remember how our dad used to go to school with
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  Speaker 1: sugar sandwiches? That was a huge thing back in the day.
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  Speaker 1: I suppose it's like hundreds and thousands.
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  Speaker 2: God, it'd be bloody easy to pack that.
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  Speaker 3: Do you remember the controversy? I think it was probably
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  Speaker 3: like six months ago now when we spoke about that
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  Speaker 3: influencer mum who froze her sandwiches. We pissed off a
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  Speaker 3: lot of people talking about that.
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  Speaker 1: I want to know our listeners' crazy food combos though.
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  Speaker 1: We will put up a question box on Instagram. Send
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  Speaker 1: yours in and it would be fun to try some.
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  Speaker 3: I'm just working from home today.
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  Speaker 2: And I found the hot test buns in Biscoffs.
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  Speaker 4: They're so good.
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  Speaker 1: Sammy Robinson has a new man in her life. The
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  Speaker 1: fashion designer's new influencer, Beau, soft launched the blossoming.
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  Speaker 2: Romance on his Instagram.
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  Speaker 1: Now, this wasn't your typical soft launch. No, he didn't
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  Speaker 1: just casually post Sammy in the background of an Instagram
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  Speaker 1: story or in a photo dump. He made a cryptic
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  Speaker 1: or not so cryptic reel about her. Now, the new
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  Speaker 1: guy in question is a fitness influencer called Sam Cameron.
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  Speaker 1: And all I could think about is the fact that
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  Speaker 1: they pretty much have the same name, Sam and Sammy.
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  Speaker 1: This is another influencer couple with matching names.
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  Speaker 3: Who's the other matching one?
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  Speaker 1: Sophie Keisha and Sophie Vanderhoeven.
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  Speaker 2: Remember they have the same name? Oh yeah, I suppose.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, at least with Sammy, she's Sammy and he
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  Speaker 3: can be Sam or Samantha and Samuel.
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  Speaker 1: I would hate to date someone with the same name
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  Speaker 1: as me. It reminds me a bit of a conversation
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  Speaker 1: we were having the other day about certain names that
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  Speaker 1: you just don't like and that makes you think differently
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  Speaker 1: about a person i hate the name and i'm sorry
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  Speaker 1: if anyone's partner or anyone listening has this name tristan
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  Speaker 1: and it is because one boy at school who i
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  Speaker 1: won't go into but he had the name and you
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  Speaker 1: know when someone puts you off from primary.
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  Speaker 3: School there's a lot of names like that that you
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  Speaker 3: just have to when you're coming up with a baby
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  Speaker 3: name cross them off i think when it comes to
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  Speaker 3: partners though It's a little bit different because it's not
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  Speaker 3: like you're actually choosing the name. And I think we
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  Speaker 3: can all sit here and go, I'd never dated Tristan.
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  Speaker 3: But I mean, if some hot guy that you got
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  Speaker 3: on really well with was called that, you probably would
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  Speaker 3: turn a blind eye.
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  Speaker 2: We get a new association, don't you?
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  Speaker 1: Remember Sophie, you went on a date with a guy
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  Speaker 1: called Dwayne and there was just something about that name.
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  Speaker 2: It's an instant turn off. Yeah. There was another guy
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  Speaker 2: I dated briefly called Darren. And again, I was like,
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  Speaker 2: I don't know if I'm feeling the name, like Darren
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  Speaker 2: and Dwayne.
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  Speaker 1: It's a bit like when you're deciding on children's names too.
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  Speaker 1: Like some names sound really cute as a baby. But
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  Speaker 1: if you're like, oh, I'm dating a guy called Bear and.
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  Speaker 2: He's in his 30s. I don't know. Does it work?
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  Speaker 1: Getting back to the two Sams, it's quite interesting because
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  Speaker 1: Sam used to work as a full-time industrial electrician until
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  Speaker 1: he quit his job two years ago to pursue a
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  Speaker 1: career in content creation. So he launched an online coaching platform.
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  Speaker 3: Red flags.
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  Speaker 1: Well, yeah, he's this really buff fitness guy. He now
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  Speaker 1: has over 47,000 followers. And last week is when he.
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  Speaker 2: Did this soft launch.
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  Speaker 1: So he uploaded a reel of him walking into frame
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  Speaker 1: wearing just orange and yellow Speedo.
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  Speaker 2: Red flag again. He was showing off his six pack.
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  Speaker 1: And over the top of this vision, the caption said,
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  Speaker 1: working hard so that my future wife can run her
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  Speaker 1: successful clothing company. And I don't feel insecure for not
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  Speaker 1: being able to equally financially provide for our family.
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  Speaker 3: I don't mean to be that person, but what work
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  Speaker 3: was he actually doing in the room other than looking hot?
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  Speaker 1: Well, yeah, it was very confusing because underneath one person wrote,
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  Speaker 1: I don't get it. How is walking out of your
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  Speaker 1: unit in Speedos helping your future wife?
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  Speaker 2: Did I miss something? Because maybe if he had shown
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  Speaker 2: himself training.
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  Speaker 1: A group of people or actually working, it.
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  Speaker 2: Would have made sense.
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  Speaker 1: I was like, is this just an excuse to get
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  Speaker 1: your budgie smugglers out? It's like, I'm staying hot so
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  Speaker 1: I can get lots of followers on Instagram.
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  Speaker 2: To continue this lifestyle.
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  Speaker 3: Well, maybe he means working hard, like working out.
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  Speaker 2: It made no sense.
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  Speaker 1: And immediately, super sleuths were like, well, this must be
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  Speaker 1: about Sammy Robinson. Obviously, she's got her clothing brand One Mile.
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  Speaker 1: And over the past few weeks, Sam has actually popped
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  Speaker 1: up in Sammy's photo dumps. So in one photo, she
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  Speaker 1: had Sam in the background of a photo of her
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  Speaker 1: and one of her friends. And then in another, he
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  Speaker 1: was sitting next to her at the beach again with
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  Speaker 1: another group of friends. So it wasn't completely obvious.
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  Speaker 3: And it didn't take long for Sam's friends to weigh
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  Speaker 3: in and drop further clues. One friend wrote, keep grinding
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  Speaker 3: one mile at a time, bro, referring to Sammy's brand
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  Speaker 3: One Mile, while another said one mile closer each time.
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  Speaker 3: Another joked, this is a fairly vague post, bro.
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  Speaker 2: Can you elaborate, please?
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  Speaker 3: And others excitedly asked if it was a soft launch.
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  Speaker 1: I wonder how Sammy felt about that. Because it kind
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  Speaker 1: of comes across.
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  Speaker 2: As he's using her for clout.
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  Speaker 1: It comes across as very strong to call someone your
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  Speaker 1: future wife. Like I know it's a bit of a joke,
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  Speaker 1: but it almost makes you think, oh, are you using
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  Speaker 1: her for.
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  Speaker 2: The clout and for the money?
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  Speaker 3: I mean, I was joking about it before, but there
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  Speaker 3: are far too many red flags here. The fact that
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  Speaker 3: he is saying, you know, love bobbing her essentially saying
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  Speaker 3: my future wife. And then ultimately using her for clout
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  Speaker 3: and engagement.
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  Speaker 1: I know this Sam guy already has a bit of
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  Speaker 1: a following, but do you think in 2025 that people
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  Speaker 1: can actually build an influencer career off the back of
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  Speaker 1: dating somebody?
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  Speaker 3: No, I think it's oversaturated now because look at Matt Sikowsky.
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  Speaker 3: He is dating Tammy Hembrough, who is one of the
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  Speaker 3: most followed people in Australia. I think she's got over
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  Speaker 3: like 16 or 17 million followers. He's sitting at around 150,000. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: it hasn't gone up much.
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  Speaker 1: Which is what he was on when he was on
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  Speaker 1: Love Island. Like that hasn't come from her. And then
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  Speaker 1: you've got Saffron Barker, the UK influencer who has been
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  Speaker 1: splashing her new boyfriend everywhere. He's this gorgeous model. You
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  Speaker 1: think that her followers would want to, you know, see
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  Speaker 1: what he's up to. And he's only sitting around like
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  Speaker 1: the 10,000 K mark. Because if you think back in
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  Speaker 1: the day, for example, when Jonathan Sauer started dating Shani Grimmon,
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  Speaker 1: he was.
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  Speaker 2: Inundated with followers.
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  Speaker 1: Like His proximity to Sharni made him an influencer. He
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  Speaker 1: was able to quit his job, but you don't see
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  Speaker 1: this happening as much anymore.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, and he's lost all of them, even though he's
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  Speaker 3: dating Madison Woolley, who apparently has nearly 700,000 followers.
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  Speaker 1: I'm that loser, though, that does follow people's boyfriends. I
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  Speaker 1: immediately went and followed Sammy's boyfriend, but then I saw
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  Speaker 1: he was sharing a lot of that motivational fitness content
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  Speaker 1: that I was like, I kind of didn't want it
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  Speaker 1: popping up and my husband seeing it because it was
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  Speaker 1: a lot of, as we say, him walking around in
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  Speaker 1: speedos with his top off.
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  Speaker 2: I was like, I don't know what's his hand but this.
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  Speaker 1: Guy is definitely a bit of Sammy so he's tall
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  Speaker 1: dark and he appears to have a New Zealand accent
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  Speaker 1: it's very much her recent type isn't it he is
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  Speaker 1: very much her type they look really good together I'm
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  Speaker 1: excited to see where this goes but she hasn't had
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  Speaker 1: much luck with relationships which is why I think she
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  Speaker 1: leaves them offline so the fact that he's trying to
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  Speaker 1: now get engagement offer oh I don't think it's going
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  Speaker 1: to last. I think there's nothing more unattractive than a
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  Speaker 1: guy being really big on socials, you know, like let
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  Speaker 1: her post a couple photo of you first before you're
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  Speaker 1: looking so thirsty that you're trying to drop it.
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  Speaker 2: I didn't like that.
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  Speaker 1: Any guys that are listening to this single, People want
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  Speaker 1: to see more than the photo of you and a
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  Speaker 1: fish from 10 years ago, but not too much where
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  Speaker 1: you seem too keen.
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  Speaker 2: No speedo videos.
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  Speaker 3: I think maybe a couple of posts each year and
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  Speaker 3: that's it.
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  Speaker 1: Well, unless you're trying.
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  Speaker 2: To become an influencer. But that in itself is a
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  Speaker 2: bit of an ick.
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  Speaker 4: I've been having a lot of thoughts recently about baby
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  Speaker 4: number two and more babies. And I get asked when
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  Speaker 4: I put those question boxes up, that's like another huge
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  Speaker 4: thing that like always gets asked about. It's like baby
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  Speaker 4: number two, what's your thoughts?
• 10:42
  Speaker 1: As we edge closer to the release date of part
• 10:44
  Speaker 1: two of Molly Mae's Tell All doco, rumors she's reconciled
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  Speaker 1: with her former fiance Tommy Fury are getting stronger. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: because this time they have been caught out enjoying a
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  Speaker 1: romantic weekend away at the river with their daughter Bambi.
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  Speaker 1: So last Wednesday, Molly shared a photo dump which she
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  Speaker 1: titled The Favorites Album. And amongst the photos, there was
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  Speaker 1: a picture of her rugged up sitting next to the
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  Speaker 1: river drinking a cup of tea. Now on Monday, Tommy
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  Speaker 1: shared his own photo dump with the caption, life's been
• 11:13
  Speaker 1: looking up with a love heart emoji. And I saw
• 11:16
  Speaker 1: in the comment section, everyone's like, yeah, of course it's
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  Speaker 1: looking up. Molly Mae's taking you back. Now within this
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  Speaker 1: photo dump, there was a picture of him sitting beside
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  Speaker 1: a very similar looking river on a boat wearing a
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  Speaker 1: life jacket. And if this wasn't enough of a clue,
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  Speaker 1: Molly previously had posted a photo to her Instagram story
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  Speaker 1: of her wearing an identical life jacket. Yeah, so it's
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  Speaker 1: very clear that they have spent the weekend together. Molly
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  Speaker 1: seemed to be really gushing about what a wonderful weekend
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  Speaker 1: it was because she subsequently shared a photo of Bambi
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  Speaker 1: sitting in the car with the caption, weekends like the
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  Speaker 1: one we just had, couldn't ask for anything more. They
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  Speaker 1: really have been gradually dropping hints. And I think it
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  Speaker 1: is all gearing up to the big reveal on Molly's documentary,
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  Speaker 1: which is set to be released in spring. Well, I
• 12:00
  Speaker 1: saw a recent vlog that Molly put up and she
• 12:03
  Speaker 1: doesn't even appear to know the air date yet. She
• 12:05
  Speaker 1: said they're still filming at the moment. If these rumors
• 12:08
  Speaker 1: are true, though, it appears that the Prime video crew
• 12:11
  Speaker 1: have been capturing this reunion for us because it was
• 12:13
  Speaker 1: reported last month that the film crew captured their Valentine's
• 12:18
  Speaker 1: Day getaway, which was at a manor. And the couple
• 12:20
  Speaker 1: have stayed there before. It's one of Molly's favorite getaways.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, why else would she be.
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  Speaker 2: There on Valentine's Day?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, well, it was quite interesting because in this recent
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  Speaker 1: vlog of Molly's, she also spoke about the possibility of
• 12:31
  Speaker 1: having a second series of her documentary. So I suppose
• 12:34
  Speaker 1: it wouldn't be so much of a documentary. She said
• 12:36
  Speaker 1: it would be more of a reality show.
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  Speaker 2: And she was- Or about their wedding?
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  Speaker 1: Well, she was basically asking her audience, is this something
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  Speaker 1: you'd like to see? Because she was concerned that maybe
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  Speaker 1: if she did another series that people would lose interest
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  Speaker 1: and maybe they wouldn't watch her YouTube videos anymore. And
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  Speaker 1: she said that The only way she would do a
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  Speaker 1: second series was if it made sense and there was
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  Speaker 1: some form of storyline. She's like, people don't want to
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  Speaker 1: see me just sitting around with Bambi. And I thought
• 13:01
  Speaker 1: the same thing. I bet if there's a wedding on
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  Speaker 1: the cards, we will see series two of this. Also,
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  Speaker 1: just having the two of them together on camera adds
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  Speaker 1: a new element to it. I think that's what the
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  Speaker 1: series is missing currently. Now, Molly stoked the flames even
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  Speaker 1: further in a Q & A that she uploaded to
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  Speaker 1: YouTube on Monday.
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  Speaker 2: She was really upbeat.
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  Speaker 1: In this video and she even commented that her happiness
• 13:25
  Speaker 1: levels have been spiking recently.
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  Speaker 2: There is so much breadcrumbing going on.
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  Speaker 1: She went on to say, there's been a crazy amount
• 13:32
  Speaker 1: of ups and downs over the last year, but currently
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  Speaker 1: I'm feeling really, really happy and the glimmers of my
• 13:37
  Speaker 1: true old self are coming back. I felt genuinely happy
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  Speaker 1: for Molly when I saw her acting like this. I
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  Speaker 1: know some people were saying, oh, this is.
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  Speaker 2: A publicity stunt.
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  Speaker 1: But as we've discussed previously, I do not believe this
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  Speaker 1: is a publicity stunt.
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  Speaker 2: No, I don't think it is for a minute.
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  Speaker 1: In a very bold move in this Q & A,
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  Speaker 1: Molly answered a follower's question about when she plans to
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  Speaker 1: have a second baby, which.
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  Speaker 2: Soaked the fire even more. Yeah, I'm surprised she touched
• 14:00
  Speaker 2: on it. Yeah, this is what she said.
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  Speaker 4: Not really in a position right now to sit here
• 14:05
  Speaker 4: and talk about baby number two and, like, more babies, like,
• 14:08
  Speaker 4: after the last year that my relationship has gone through. But, like,
• 14:12
  Speaker 4: besides all of that and, like, if you take the
• 14:15
  Speaker 4: relationship and like me and Tommy like out of it
• 14:17
  Speaker 4: for a second like I think a lot a lot
• 14:20
  Speaker 4: a lot about baby number two and more babies and
• 14:23
  Speaker 4: like thoughts and feelings in regards to it and me
• 14:25
  Speaker 4: and my best friend Taylor we talk about it all
• 14:28
  Speaker 4: of the time and like I don't know I think
• 14:31
  Speaker 4: it's something that like I do want to speak about
• 14:33
  Speaker 4: a little bit because I feel like it's another thing
• 14:36
  Speaker 4: that's in my mind all the time just like circulating
• 14:38
  Speaker 4: like how am I meant to feel about it because
• 14:40
  Speaker 4: I do worry that sometimes how I do feel about
• 14:42
  Speaker 4: it isn't like how I view I should feel about it,
• 14:46
  Speaker 4: if that makes sense.
• 14:48
  Speaker 1: She went on to say that she found the newborn
• 14:50
  Speaker 1: stage unbelievably difficult but joked that she would happily handle
• 14:54
  Speaker 1: 102-year-olds like Bambi if she could skip the newborn stage.
• 14:57
  Speaker 1: Not what you want to hear as an expectant mother.
• 14:59
  Speaker 2: When you're waiting for that.
• 15:00
  Speaker 1: It's quite interesting because I remember when Tommy and Molly
• 15:03
  Speaker 1: were still together and That was when Molly was saying,
• 15:06
  Speaker 1: maybe this is it. Maybe we will only have one baby.
• 15:09
  Speaker 1: But it's interesting now that, you know, maybe she's trying
• 15:12
  Speaker 1: to get Tommy back or vice versa, that she's open
• 15:14
  Speaker 1: to having more kids.
• 15:15
  Speaker 2: I don't think it's that.
• 15:16
  Speaker 1: I think it's because Bambi's at an age where Molly's
• 15:18
  Speaker 1: really enjoying.
• 15:19
  Speaker 2: Time with her. Yeah, I understand that.
• 15:20
  Speaker 1: But for Tommy, clearly he wants, I mean, he said
• 15:23
  Speaker 1: he'd have 10 kids with her if he wanted to.
• 15:25
  Speaker 1: I just worry that you've broken up, you know, there's
• 15:29
  Speaker 1: obviously issues with alcohol and then a patch over it
• 15:33
  Speaker 1: isn't having another child well the reason she said she
• 15:35
  Speaker 1: potentially wanted a second child was she wants Bambi to
• 15:38
  Speaker 1: have a sister because she has a very special relationship
• 15:41
  Speaker 1: with her sister Zoe and she said that's the thing
• 15:44
  Speaker 1: that makes her feel really bad like she would hate
• 15:46
  Speaker 1: for Bambi not to have that special relationship what a
• 15:49
  Speaker 1: weird thing to talk about when you're supposed to be
• 15:51
  Speaker 1: broken up with your partner even the fact that she
• 15:53
  Speaker 1: was referring in this Q & A to my relationship
• 15:56
  Speaker 1: is a clear sign that they're back together because wouldn't
• 15:59
  Speaker 1: you say my past relationship or shut it down and
• 16:03
  Speaker 1: say that you're single and it's not something.
• 16:04
  Speaker 2: That you're thinking about.
• 16:05
  Speaker 1: This is like soft launching this relationship.
• 16:08
  Speaker 2: I mean, unrelated.
• 16:10
  Speaker 1: Did you also see this week that Molly had to
• 16:13
  Speaker 1: update her passport photo? So she has had the same
• 16:17
  Speaker 1: passport photo for the last 10 years. But when I
• 16:20
  Speaker 1: heard this, it shocked me. She was like, yeah, the
• 16:21
  Speaker 1: last photo that was taken was when I was 15.
• 16:23
  Speaker 2: That blew my mind. Oh, that's right. She's only 25.
• 16:26
  Speaker 1: But I feel like you're not allowed to actually travel
• 16:29
  Speaker 1: on a photo of you as a child.
• 16:30
  Speaker 3: No, you are.
• 16:31
  Speaker 1: If you think back to it.
• 16:32
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 16:32
  Speaker 1: I thought maybe as soon as you turned 18, even
• 16:35
  Speaker 1: if you had to go to update the photo or something. Well,
• 16:38
  Speaker 1: she still looked older than 15 in the photo. Some
• 16:41
  Speaker 1: people look drastically young at 15. Like I don't think
• 16:45
  Speaker 1: when I was 25 I was travelling with my passport
• 16:47
  Speaker 1: from when I was 15. Well, it depends when you
• 16:50
  Speaker 1: renewed your passport or when you got it. It reminds
• 16:52
  Speaker 1: me of Patsy on Absolutely Fabulous when she has that
• 16:55
  Speaker 1: passport photo from her 20s and she's like 50.
• 16:57
  Speaker 2: Tickets and passports, please. Is this upper class?
• 17:00
  Speaker 1: This is upper class.
• 17:01
  Speaker 2: Adam, I just want to know, when was this photo taken? Oh,
• 17:03
  Speaker 2: it's very recent.
• 17:04
  Speaker 4: It's very recent.
• 17:06
  Speaker 1: Thank you.
• 17:06
  Speaker 3: It's your boarding classes now.
• 17:07
  Speaker 2: Have a good flight today.
• 17:08
  Speaker 1: Bye. Bye.
• 17:09
  Speaker 3: Check in.
• 17:13
  Speaker 1: Kiara Dorough has accused her former podcast host, Ashley Bynes,
• 17:16
  Speaker 1: of owing her money. The revelation came as the mummy
• 17:19
  Speaker 1: vlogger revealed she's contemplating uploading a tell-all YouTube about the saga.
• 17:24
  Speaker 1: This drama just keeps on going. We have been covering
• 17:27
  Speaker 1: this story in depth since November. If you're not all
• 17:31
  Speaker 1: across it, go back and listen to some of the episodes.
• 17:33
  Speaker 1: But from a top line level, Kiara and Ashley have
• 17:36
  Speaker 1: been feuding ever since Kiara left their podcast and Ashley
• 17:39
  Speaker 1: rebranded and got.
• 17:40
  Speaker 2: A new co-host.
• 17:42
  Speaker 1: Yeah. So this week, Kiara dished some more dirt during
• 17:45
  Speaker 1: a recent Instagram Q & A. So a follower asked
• 17:48
  Speaker 1: her if she was going to do a YouTube tell-all
• 17:51
  Speaker 1: like she originally promised. Now, Kiara revealed that while she
• 17:55
  Speaker 1: had pulled the pin on doing it, she now has
• 17:57
  Speaker 1: mixed emotions. She wrote, I keep trying to give the
• 18:00
  Speaker 1: other person the benefit of the doubt, but behind the scenes,
• 18:03
  Speaker 1: it is being made very difficult. I've been left to
• 18:06
  Speaker 1: look after a lot of the mess and cleaning everything
• 18:09
  Speaker 1: up myself, ending the business, closing accounts, paying bills, et cetera,
• 18:13
  Speaker 1: because I don't want to get myself.
• 18:15
  Speaker 2: In any trouble.
• 18:16
  Speaker 1: She then wanted to say that she is still owed
• 18:19
  Speaker 1: payments from October and complained that it's been difficult to
• 18:23
  Speaker 1: move on from her business relationship with Ashi when she
• 18:26
  Speaker 1: won't help finalize things. She went on to say, I
• 18:29
  Speaker 1: also really pride myself in honesty and authenticity.
• 18:32
  Speaker 2: So then throw in the flat out.
• 18:33
  Speaker 1: Lies being told just makes me so angry. I'm a
• 18:36
  Speaker 1: human being, so of course I have moments of big
• 18:39
  Speaker 1: emotions and feeling like I want to go off, lol,
• 18:41
  Speaker 1: especially when I'm trying to move on, but things keep
• 18:44
  Speaker 1: popping up. Whether that be lies told in another episode
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: or bank situations I'm trying to fix. I wonder if
• 18:51
  Speaker 1: this situation has been taken to Ashley's legal team yet.
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: I mean, it's pretty big to accuse someone of owing
• 18:56
  Speaker 1: you money. I just think as we touched on Tuesday,
• 18:59
  Speaker 1: people are getting sick of this. Yeah, it's kind of
• 19:02
  Speaker 1: just weighing into the weeds and getting very petty. I
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: totally feel for Kiara though, if she is owed a
• 19:07
  Speaker 1: large sum of money and it's very difficult if someone
• 19:10
  Speaker 1: won't play the game.
• 19:11
  Speaker 2: And get back to you.
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: These are all allegations though. We don't actually know whether
• 19:15
  Speaker 1: this is true, but I do think this needs to
• 19:17
  Speaker 1: be taken offline because we don't really need the court
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: of public opinion on this. As people said, they're already
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: aware of the relationship breakdown.
• 19:25
  Speaker 2: People have made up their minds about it. I don't
• 19:27
  Speaker 2: think it's helping going into the weeds even further.
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: I wanted to wait until the podcast to release this
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: information because it's just so sad, sick and fucked up.
• 19:36
  Speaker 3: And I just, I'm afraid that you guys aren't ready
• 19:39
  Speaker 3: to hear something like this.
• 19:41
  Speaker 1: Michaela Tester's former manager, Alicia McKenzie, made a bold statement
• 19:45
  Speaker 1: this week. She was spotted dining at Nobu in Malibu
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: with none other than Michaela's former friend, Karina Koff. Now
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: I say spotted, but it was Karina who wanted everyone
• 19:56
  Speaker 1: to know about it. posting their spread of sushi to
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: her Instagram story and also tagging Alicia. Now to put
• 20:02
  Speaker 1: this all into perspective, it was just a couple of
• 20:04
  Speaker 1: weeks ago when Karina Koff publicly accused Michaela Testa of
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: lying about the Paul family. In a brutal Instagram takedown,
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: Karina labeled Michaela as a pathological liar as well as
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: a narcissist and manipulative. She went on to say, ask
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: anyone who has ever come into contact with her and
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: I promise you, they will say the exact same thing.
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: Since I met her two years ago, she has not
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: had one consistent person in her life. Every single person
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: has come and gone. It's everyone else who is the
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: fucked up friend who is the common denominator here. Now,
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: I feel like this is a new thing to get
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: back at your former bestie because back in November, a
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: bunch of Ashley Bynes' former best friends shared that they
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: were catching up over dinner. It's literally code for we're
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: gossiping about you and want everyone on the internet to
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: know about it. To be fair, I could imagine pulling
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: this move in my early 20s. Mm.
• 20:50
  Speaker 2: Like, you know, when you're a bit immature and you're like, oh,
• 20:53
  Speaker 2: this will be so funny. We'll get back at them
• 20:55
  Speaker 2: this way.
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: But as a 30, well, someone in their mid-30s looking
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: at this, you're like, oh, it's a bit pathetic.
• 21:01
  Speaker 2: Stop doing that.
• 21:02
  Speaker 3: I actually like it because you say so much without
• 21:05
  Speaker 3: saying anything because what is happening here is people are like, oh,
• 21:09
  Speaker 3: hang on, is there a little bit of truth to
• 21:11
  Speaker 3: what Karina Koff is saying? Because why would her manager
• 21:14
  Speaker 3: and former best friend suddenly be dining with her?
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: So this Alicia, I remember– she got invited to a
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: White Fox boutique trip, I think when Coachella was on
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: and Michaela was supposed to go with her, but she
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: couldn't get into the country.
• 21:27
  Speaker 2: She had all of that ordeal.
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: She couldn't get through security and she ended up being
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: taken back to Australia. And from what I remember at
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: the time, it seemed like Michaela would spend a lot
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: of money on Alicia and buy her a lot of gifts.
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: And I got the vibe, I'm like, Alicia seems to
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: be taking a lot from this relationship. So I do
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: question whether it's an instance where Maybe when you're an
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: influencer and you've got money, there are some friends that
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: are out to use you. So maybe I wouldn't say
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: necessarily that Michaela is the common denominator here.
• 21:54
  Speaker 3: Well, we don't really know what's gone on behind the
• 21:56
  Speaker 3: scenes there. But in terms of that trip, Alicia was
• 21:58
  Speaker 3: traveling with Michaela as her manager. And then she continued
• 22:02
  Speaker 3: on to the US and actually took Michaela's spot on
• 22:06
  Speaker 3: that trip.
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it seemed like she almost wanted to be a
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: bit of an influencer herself because she.
• 22:09
  Speaker 2: Kept appearing in the videos.
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: You know how there's always so much competition between Gen
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: Zers and millennials? I actually think this is a very
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: millennial thing to do.
• 22:17
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it is. I mean, I want to know what's
• 22:20
  Speaker 3: happened because this falling out must have been pretty recent
• 22:22
  Speaker 3: because Alicia was actually listed as Michaela's co-host in an
• 22:26
  Speaker 3: upcoming podcast series about her relationship with the Paul family.
• 22:30
  Speaker 3: So something has clearly happened in the last couple of weeks.
• 22:32
  Speaker 3: So her name has now been removed from that podcast.
• 22:35
  Speaker 2: Are we going to see Anna Paul out dining with
• 22:37
  Speaker 2: them soon? Well, I think that will happen.
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I was going to say the Pauls must be
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: loving all of this because it's not painting Michaela in
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: the best light.
• 22:44
  Speaker 3: I sadly think it's a matter of time before the
• 22:46
  Speaker 3: internet just turns on Michaela Tester and everyone's pro-Anna Paul again.
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: We spoke about this a little bit when we were
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: talking about Ashley Bynes and all her dramas, that it
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: becomes a point where people share too much online and
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: it really muddies the water. Well, people are like, I'll
• 22:59
  Speaker 1: get over it. But I actually don't think that that's
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: going to happen in this instance.
• 23:02
  Speaker 2: I disagree.
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: I think once we hear more of what Michaela went
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: through in her relationship with Addis Paul, she's already made
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: some very serious allegations about him. I think that people
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: are going to 100% side with Michaela. I mean, if
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: you look at Anna Paul's comment section, it is brutal
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: at the moment.
• 23:17
  Speaker 3: I think the fact that the podcast has been delayed
• 23:19
  Speaker 3: for quite a number of weeks since all of this
• 23:21
  Speaker 3: went down isn't helping Michaela out though, because originally she said, oh,
• 23:25
  Speaker 3: the podcast is launching next week. And it's probably been,
• 23:28
  Speaker 3: I don't know, like a month since all that drama hit.
• 23:31
  Speaker 3: So I think that she needed to capitalize on the
• 23:33
  Speaker 3: attention because People get to a point on the internet
• 23:36
  Speaker 3: where they're like, oh, I'm over this.
• 23:37
  Speaker 2: This is boring. Just shut up.
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: Well, she did drop about Anna Paul's treatment or alleged
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: treatment of her birds.
• 23:43
  Speaker 2: Yeah, she's breadcrumbing there. Yeah. So there's been a bit
• 23:46
  Speaker 2: of breadcrumbing. But as you say, you don't want it
• 23:47
  Speaker 2: to be a point where people are like, oh, get
• 23:49
  Speaker 2: over it and move on. Particularly because she is engaged
• 23:52
  Speaker 2: to someone else now.
• 23:53
  Speaker 3: Well, that's where we're going to leave things today. Thank
• 23:55
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• 23:57
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• 24:08
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