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OneLegUpAlex Teams Up With Terminello's Take and Pags' Perspective To Break Down Recent Islanders Success recorded 11-21-25 · OneLegUpAlex Media

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  Speaker 1: Here's your host, Alex Garrett.
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  Speaker 2: Leu Terminello. My friend, we haven't had the termino's taken
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  Speaker 2: a low while, but since we last talked, the Giants
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  Speaker 2: have undergone major coaching changes and like firing their head
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  Speaker 2: coach Brian Dable and Mike Kuffka taking over. And you
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  Speaker 2: know we're gonna start with hockey in a second. But
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  Speaker 2: I have to say it would be a real shame
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  Speaker 2: if Dabell's last act was to have Jackson dark in
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  Speaker 2: concussion protocol the rest of the season. Like maybe it
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  Speaker 2: is true he ran him not to the ground, but
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  Speaker 2: to this situation that Jackson's him, maybe he did.
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  Speaker 1: Go too hard with him his first year.
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  Speaker 3: Well, Alex, thanks for having me. Good to be back
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  Speaker 3: with you. As always, I'm not gonna blame the concussion
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  Speaker 3: situation on on Brian Dable. There were other things that
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  Speaker 3: you could you can blame him on. As far as
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  Speaker 3: him getting fired, I was surprised that he was fired
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  Speaker 3: after after the loss last week. I wouldn't have been
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  Speaker 3: surprised if he was fired at the end of the year.
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  Speaker 3: I just was surprised at the timing. Jackson Dart has
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  Speaker 3: as we said, we said, he has to protect himself better.
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  Speaker 3: And of course the guy who protects himself better than
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  Speaker 3: anybody in the league is Patrick Mahomes. Josh Allen's pretty
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  Speaker 3: good at it. Also, he's a rookie, he's uh dart
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  Speaker 3: is and uh he definitely has charisma. The team responds
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  Speaker 3: to him. But now he's when is he coming back? Now?
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  Speaker 3: This is gonna be two weeks where he hasn't cleared
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  Speaker 3: concussion protocol, and as we know, concussions are a major
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  Speaker 3: problem in the NFL. I don't know if he plays
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  Speaker 3: again this year. Maybe they don't play him just to
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  Speaker 3: protect him from himself. I don't know that. Uh, you know,
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  Speaker 3: so we'll see what happens the rest of the way.
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  Speaker 3: The guy has proven that he that he has a
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  Speaker 3: chance to be, you know, a long time starting quarterback
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  Speaker 3: for the New York Giants and in the NFL. But
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  Speaker 3: that did not get that did not get Davel fired.
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  Speaker 3: But Alex, I do believe on that Thursday night game
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  Speaker 3: when they were in the tent when they beat the Eagles,
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  Speaker 3: I think he came back. And I'm no doctor, so
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  Speaker 3: I'm not I'm no neurologist, but he might have came
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  Speaker 3: back with a concussion. And if that's the case, that's
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  Speaker 3: on Brian Dable because you know, we know what happened
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  Speaker 3: at night. He went into the tent. Scatterbu went into
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  Speaker 3: the tent. You know, became you know, it became a
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  Speaker 3: little bit of craziness.
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  Speaker 2: So it became a whole crapstorm. Actually because I did
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  Speaker 2: it was a fine situation and then this, I mean,
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  Speaker 2: it was bad.
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  Speaker 3: And I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: I just feel like there were certain things that Jackson
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  Speaker 2: darts first year has been shaped by, and one of
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  Speaker 2: them is, uh, it is totally this concussion situation he's
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  Speaker 2: got going on. They're gonna go with Winston again this weekend.
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  Speaker 3: We'll have to see.
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  Speaker 2: I want to talk about the Jets. I mean, this
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  Speaker 2: quarterback saga is weird. But what about what about the
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  Speaker 2: fact that we haven't been talked about the loss of
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  Speaker 2: Larry Brooks either.
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  Speaker 3: Maybe we start there. I mean J. T.
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  Speaker 2: Miller scoring in the first goal the first game since
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  Speaker 2: Brooksy's death last Saturday to win it. I thought that
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  Speaker 2: was so fitting because look, Brooksy was very fond of JT.
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  Speaker 2: Miller in all his writings of him.
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  Speaker 3: He was at J. T. Miller. I have to admit
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  Speaker 3: since the Rangers came back to the Rangers. This is
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  Speaker 3: me just I'm not you know, I'm not a Ranger fan,
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  Speaker 3: but I'm not a Ranger basher. As far as analyzing
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  Speaker 3: their play. J. D. Miller has not performed like the
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  Speaker 3: Rangers thought he was going to perform. And he's got
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  Speaker 3: five years left on an eight million dollars a year contract.
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  Speaker 3: He played a great game in Colorado, so hopefully, you know,
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  Speaker 3: so hopefully for Rangers and the management and their fans
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  Speaker 3: that he takes off from this point. As you said,
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  Speaker 3: as I said to you a couple of times, I
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  Speaker 3: would have made Vincent trotech the captain. But Trochek has
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  Speaker 3: I think this is last year before he goes in
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  Speaker 3: free agency. Maybe that's why they didn't do it. That's
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  Speaker 3: just that's just my view from afar. Right now, the
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  Speaker 3: Rangers are stuck in no man's land, Alex and that's
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  Speaker 3: not a good place to be now. The NHL Eastern
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  Speaker 3: Conference and the NHL in general, everybody's bunched up. But
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  Speaker 3: I don't know, I don't have right now at the
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  Speaker 3: twenty game mark. I know we're at the quarter pole
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  Speaker 3: mark and teams have played twenty twenty one games. I think.
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  Speaker 3: I think the Bruins have played like twenty three. They
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  Speaker 3: played the most. I don't know what. I don't know
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  Speaker 3: how to evaluate this Ranger team. I don't know if
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  Speaker 3: they're just gonna be stuck in the middle. You know,
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  Speaker 3: there's some teams that are on the rise and some
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  Speaker 3: of them that may not make the playoffs this year.
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  Speaker 3: But you look at you look at Anaheim, you look
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  Speaker 3: you look at at the San Jose Sharks, who are
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  Speaker 3: a little bit over five hundred. But look in his
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  Speaker 3: second year, Matt flinched Celebrini. You know, he has he
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  Speaker 3: scored the hat trick the other night. He has thirty
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  Speaker 3: plus points. Will Smith, their center that nobody knows about,
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  Speaker 3: you know in the East because he plays for the
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  Speaker 3: Anaheim Ducks nineteen points, and Chris Krider has ten goals
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  Speaker 3: and for assists, and he gives them a veteran presses,
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  Speaker 3: so does Jacob Truber, and they have other veteran presents
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  Speaker 3: on their team. They're they're an intriguing team to watch,
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  Speaker 3: and right now they're in first place in the Pacific Division.
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  Speaker 3: I don't expect that to hold up, but at least
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  Speaker 3: they're not hopeless neither is San Jose anymore.
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  Speaker 2: Know when when do we say the Ducks were in
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  Speaker 2: first place? Not for a while, So yeah, no, it's
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  Speaker 2: kind of intriguing. And Crider has been such a boost
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  Speaker 2: to Ye.
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  Speaker 3: Absolutely, that veteran, those veteran presents have to help, and
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  Speaker 3: they have. Leo Carlson. I mean, the guy's got twenty
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  Speaker 3: five points, he's twenty years old. He's plus eleven for
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  Speaker 3: the Ducks, and uh, I mean they're an interesting watch now.
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  Speaker 3: Of course in the East, the Islanders aren't have surprised.
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  Speaker 3: They just had an amazing six and one road trip
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  Speaker 3: against tough opponents, and even in the one game that
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  Speaker 3: they lost, they played very well against the Colorado Avalanche.
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  Speaker 3: They've done a good job. And uh, Horvat, I mean,
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  Speaker 3: he's really making a bid to be on the Canadian
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  Speaker 3: Olympic team. He's he's tied. He's either second league goals
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  Speaker 3: or tied, Yeah, tied with for second. He's been tremendous.
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  Speaker 3: He's all around game, power play, penalty kill, He's playing
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  Speaker 3: a two hundred the two hundreds foot game. And of
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  Speaker 3: course we knew that this kid was going to be good.
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  Speaker 3: We didn't know he was going to be be good
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  Speaker 3: dis early. The amazing Matthew Schaeffer. I mean, he scored
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  Speaker 3: a game winning goal, youngest game winning goal for in
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  Speaker 3: overtime in NHL history. He's averaging twenty three minutes a game,
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  Speaker 3: which is which is which is uh challenging, and I
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  Speaker 3: want to see if he peters out at the end.
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  Speaker 3: He's actually now being considered by Hockey Canada as a
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  Speaker 3: potential for the Olympic team. Alex. I hope he doesn't
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  Speaker 3: make the Olympic team. I'd rather see him get the
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  Speaker 3: eighteen days off and and recharge himself. He's that important
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  Speaker 3: to the Islanders, as I said to you in the past,
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  Speaker 3: and this was before your time. And there's only one
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  Speaker 3: Bobby Or, so I'm not gonna says Bobby Or. But
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  Speaker 3: this kid has Bobby or type skills. And the Devils
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  Speaker 3: I have done off to a great start. They lost
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  Speaker 3: their last two games. But now a freak injury, I
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  Speaker 3: mean with with their best player appointed game guy in
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  Speaker 3: Jack Hughes, cutting his pinky so bad he's gonna be
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  Speaker 3: out two months and needed a major operation, and it
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  Speaker 3: was almost so bad that they thought he might be
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  Speaker 3: out for the whole season. So that's that's disappointing, But
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  Speaker 3: I think it's going to be an interesting winter for
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  Speaker 3: the three hockey teams. I did not think it was
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  Speaker 3: at the beginning of the year. I didn't think the
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  Speaker 3: Islanders were going to play as well as they did
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  Speaker 3: in the first twenty and hopefully they play this way
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  Speaker 3: the rest of the year. But Sorogan's playing great. They
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  Speaker 3: suffered a tough flass. We don't know how long he's
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  Speaker 3: going to be out with Alexander Romanov getting pushed into
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  Speaker 3: the boards the other night by Miko Ranton, and I
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  Speaker 3: don't think it was a dirty play, but that's disappointing
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  Speaker 3: that he'll be out for an extended period. He is
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  Speaker 3: their hardest hitter. But the one thing the Islanders need
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  Speaker 3: the Islanders. The Islanders need are an enforcer too bad
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  Speaker 3: Matt Martin is no longer there. They need him to
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  Speaker 3: protect the kid, and of course the enforcer I would
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  Speaker 3: want because he's a skilled player. Yes we know he
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  Speaker 3: goes over the line, Yes we know he's done dirty
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  Speaker 3: things in the past, but besides being an enforcer, he's
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  Speaker 3: an outstanding hockey player. You know, the.
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  Speaker 2: Islanders are looking pretty good and you know Schaeffer has
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  Speaker 2: been a right light here in the tri said area
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  Speaker 2: and may continue to be. I know, last time you're
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  Speaker 2: worried about his playing time. Do you still think they're
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  Speaker 2: playing him too much?
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  Speaker 3: Or I am? I am? And like I said, I
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  Speaker 3: know he's an outside candidate to make the Canadian Olympic
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  Speaker 3: hockey team. Like I said, I hope he doesn't make it.
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  Speaker 3: I want to see in those three weeks just rest
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  Speaker 3: because the Islanders at the twenty game mark are better
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  Speaker 3: than I thought they would be. They've changed their style
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  Speaker 3: of play that they're a quicker team and I mean
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  Speaker 3: just wrapping up well not always, I hope.
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  Speaker 2: So why, I think he's a very good coach and
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  Speaker 2: I don't know why people were down on him. I
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  Speaker 2: think he's a very good coach.
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  Speaker 3: Well yeah, I mean he has He's coached champions in
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  Speaker 3: Canadian junior hockey and he's into the game. Obviously he
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  Speaker 3: doesn't let things get past them. So Rogan's playing great.
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  Speaker 3: Their lines are are deeper. Like I said, I wish
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  Speaker 3: they hadn't enforced. I wish they had somebody like Tom Wilson,
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  Speaker 3: a guy who's an enforcer who scores thirty goals, but
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  Speaker 3: those guys are you can count them on less than
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  Speaker 3: one hand. And I know Tom Wilson's gone over the
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  Speaker 3: line many times in his career, but I actually heard
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  Speaker 3: a report the other day that he might be considered
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  Speaker 3: for Team Canada, the Olympic team. So it's gonna be
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  Speaker 3: a very interesting hockey season. But at the twenty game mark,
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  Speaker 3: the Devils, and I think the Devils are happy where
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  Speaker 3: they are, not happy that they don't have their best
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  Speaker 3: player again for the next six to eight weeks. The
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  Speaker 3: Islanders definitely are happy where they are. Nobody thought they
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  Speaker 3: would be anywhere near this. We'll see if this continues,
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  Speaker 3: and the Rangers are The Rangers need more production from
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  Speaker 3: their top end guys, the top end veterans, they really do,
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  Speaker 3: and they.
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  Speaker 2: I've got Ryan here, he's in his Islander gear. Are
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  Speaker 2: you impressed with the way they've looked the last what how.
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  Speaker 3: Many games was it, Louis?
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  Speaker 1: It was?
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  Speaker 3: It was a dominant seven game road trip. I mean
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  Speaker 3: it looked like the Islands are the eighties, It really did.
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  Speaker 3: You felt like they were gonna win even in the
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  Speaker 3: close games.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, no, Ryan, you're speechless.
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  Speaker 4: I mean to say that this run on the road
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  Speaker 4: has been impressive. Probably a total understatement. I mean, it's
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  Speaker 4: just wild. First off, that they they're doing all. They're
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  Speaker 4: winning away from Ubs after dropping their last two on
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  Speaker 4: the road, one of which was of course a deflating
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  Speaker 4: shootout loss to the hands of the Bruins. But then
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  Speaker 4: to see them just go on this wild run and
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  Speaker 4: you think it couldn't get any better than and I'm
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  Speaker 4: sorry to say this, Alex then by feen the Blue
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  Speaker 4: Shirts five nothing on MSG ice. Yeah, run of overtime
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  Speaker 4: winners in Jersey, in Vegas and then Utah, and then
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  Speaker 4: continuing that with wins in Dallas.
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  Speaker 1: And in Detroit. You're absolutely right.
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  Speaker 4: Lude it's like you're back in the eighties, back during
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  Speaker 4: the glory days of this franchise, where it seemed like
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  Speaker 4: anything was possible to them. I mean, they got a
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  Speaker 4: top ten penalty killed right now, and I and correct
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  Speaker 4: me if I'm wrong, but I believe they're also top
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  Speaker 4: ten in short handed goals this season. And it's been
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  Speaker 4: such a run where you just can't help but think,
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  Speaker 4: all right, these guys can keep it up.
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  Speaker 1: Anything's possible for them.
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  Speaker 3: No, it's true. And the Kyle Palmry go the other
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  Speaker 3: night after the double minor do Horvat you know when
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  Speaker 3: he scored in Dallas, that definitely took a lot of
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  Speaker 3: wind out of out of Dallas Sales where they had
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  Speaker 3: a four minute power play. Then Horrorvard also got a
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  Speaker 3: ten minute misconduct. They score the goal. Then the Islanders
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  Speaker 3: able to get a penalty which wiped out those four minutes,
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  Speaker 3: and you know, they survived the last twenty seconds. And
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  Speaker 3: I don't think that Miko Ranton then hit was a
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  Speaker 3: dirty hit. Yeah, it enough happened, but yeah, yeah.
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  Speaker 2: The one that Wall went crazy over.
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  Speaker 4: H Yeah, and this is something that I talked about
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  Speaker 4: on my own podcast, But you could hear wa screaming
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  Speaker 4: on TV, and it was more prevalent on the Stars broadcast.
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  Speaker 4: But him yelling to rantin In or In Ranton, it's direction,
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  Speaker 4: I should say, Yes, why won't you do that in
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  Speaker 4: New York? You're not uh, You're not gonna stay in
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  Speaker 4: this effing game. And if anything, March twenty sixth is
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  Speaker 4: gonna be a date that Ales fans, if they haven't
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  Speaker 4: already circled this on their calendar, they sure as heck
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  Speaker 4: a gonna do that now. Because the Stars returned to
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  Speaker 4: UBS come March it's gonna be something else now, I
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  Speaker 4: think now, like you were saying, Luke, do it do?
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  Speaker 4: I also think the hit by Ranton it was dirty. No,
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  Speaker 4: I don't think it was. It shouldn't have happened. But
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  Speaker 4: just because he took out Alex Tremanov, it doesn't mean
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  Speaker 4: he's a dirty player, all right, And it's also not
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  Speaker 4: much of a reason to, you know, go flood his
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  Speaker 4: social media with tons of hateful messages.
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  Speaker 3: And all right.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, but they didn't keep his so Dora after they
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  Speaker 4: hit on Matthew Schaeffer in the Bruins game weeks ago.
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  Speaker 2: Well, a lot of threats and all that. It's not
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  Speaker 2: a good pattern. We're seeing it.
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  Speaker 3: All.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Well, the thing is, I don't know Alex Ryan, excuse me,
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  Speaker 3: I don't know if you heard me a couple of
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  Speaker 3: minutes ago. That's I'm worried about Shaefer. I mean, Appleton
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  Speaker 3: took a run out of them at ubs. They Appleton
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  Speaker 3: was involved again last night. Not with him so much,
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  Speaker 3: but uh with the Islanders. You know, we've seen them
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  Speaker 3: now three or four times. They're taking runs at the kid.
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  Speaker 3: The Islanders are defending him. But boy, I wish I
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  Speaker 3: wish Matt Martin was still in his prime to protect
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  Speaker 3: him a little.
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  Speaker 4: Bit, because if he was on the ice, forget about it.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, there's no question about it. But I mean,
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  Speaker 4: at least you have Scott Mayfield being more than willing
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  Speaker 4: to stick up for his boys when the time comes.
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  Speaker 4: And look, you could say what you want about his
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  Speaker 4: play the PAS couple of seasons and he's been kind
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  Speaker 4: of the whipping boy he had, but he sticks up
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  Speaker 4: for his teammates no matter what.
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  Speaker 1: And the guy's just a warrior. There's no denying.
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  Speaker 3: Two things quickly that I really like. Obviously, I like
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  Speaker 3: the last couple of games with cal Richie's performance, and
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  Speaker 3: I really think that Max shab No is going to
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  Speaker 3: really be a He's a goal scorer. I mean, he
• 15:28
  Speaker 3: missed twelve games with that injury, which you know, you know,
• 15:31
  Speaker 3: in the NHL they don't disclose what their injuries are,
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  Speaker 3: which is just ridiculous. I know why they do it.
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  Speaker 3: I know why they do it. But I think he's
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  Speaker 3: going to be a good point producer for them. And
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  Speaker 3: cal Richie looks more confident than did a week ago.
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  Speaker 3: So congratulations to Matthew Dartch for changing the outlook of
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  Speaker 3: the team from being an old team with no prospects
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  Speaker 3: to being a team with a lot of prospects. I'm
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  Speaker 3: over the next couple of years. I'm excited. At least
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  Speaker 3: it's what it's exciting to watch. I don't know if
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  Speaker 3: they're going to make the playoffs. I have no idea,
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  Speaker 3: but I didn't expect the twenty game mark for the
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  Speaker 3: Islanders to be where the Islanders are right now.
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  Speaker 2: All right, let's go to the hardwood real fast, because
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  Speaker 2: Shams is unbelievable Shaman. I mean, the Knicks need him
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  Speaker 2: and he's coming up clutch, and I guess Brunson is
• 16:29
  Speaker 2: out here and there, Obie's hit out here and there. Shams, though,
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  Speaker 2: he's the star of the week right now for the Knicks,
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  Speaker 2: isn't he.
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  Speaker 3: Dah No, you know he's bounced around. He played for
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  Speaker 3: the Nets, he played for the Clippers, He's played for
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  Speaker 3: a whole myriad of teams. He did save them this
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  Speaker 3: week Monday Night. I guess he was. He scored those
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  Speaker 3: thirty six points. You need all your guys to help
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  Speaker 3: you win. But the NBA is unwatchable. I'm sorry, I mean,
• 17:03
  Speaker 3: I'm sorry, And you're talking about a long time NBA
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  Speaker 3: guy who was in the league almost three decades. Sure,
• 17:09
  Speaker 3: it's an unwatchable product. Then you hear Steve Kerr and
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  Speaker 3: Josh Hart's saying the reason guys are thinking so many
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  Speaker 3: injuries because the season's too long. Well, I'll just tell
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  Speaker 3: you one thing. In his fourteen seasons, Michael Jordan played
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  Speaker 3: eighty plus games eleven times. So I don't buy that crap.
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  Speaker 3: They say that because of the pace of the game,
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  Speaker 3: running up and down the floor, you know, just hoisting
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  Speaker 3: threes and all these runouts. I don't buy that. If
• 17:37
  Speaker 3: they if they show on the schedule, fine, but I
• 17:42
  Speaker 3: would make it seventy two. I would have no problem
• 17:44
  Speaker 3: with seventy two. But don't don't tell me that the
• 17:47
  Speaker 3: reason we were watching bad games night. I didn't see
• 17:49
  Speaker 3: the Knicks Dallas game the other night, but from all
• 17:52
  Speaker 3: reports it was it was horrendous. It was a horrendous game.
• 17:57
  Speaker 3: And then you have the team eight miles away purposely
• 18:02
  Speaker 3: looking to win eight or nine games to get one
• 18:05
  Speaker 3: of these top three or four guys. I mean, the
• 18:08
  Speaker 3: Nets have the Nets are playing to lose, and how
• 18:13
  Speaker 3: could the NBA allow that is beyond my comprehension. The
• 18:16
  Speaker 3: Wizards too. How can you play to get one more
• 18:19
  Speaker 3: or two more ping pong goals, which still doesn't guarantee
• 18:22
  Speaker 3: you nothing. Look at the Islanders. They were supposed to
• 18:24
  Speaker 3: pick tenth and they won the lottery. So first of all,
• 18:29
  Speaker 3: I would change I would change the NBA lottery, I
• 18:32
  Speaker 3: really would. I would. I would put and I something
• 18:37
  Speaker 3: like the teams that don't make the play in the
• 18:41
  Speaker 3: team with the best record that doesn't make the play
• 18:43
  Speaker 3: on maybe they should get the they should get the
• 18:45
  Speaker 3: first pick in the giraffe or the first two teams
• 18:48
  Speaker 3: that were the best record that missed the play in
• 18:54
  Speaker 3: toss a coin for the first pick. But a rewarding
• 18:58
  Speaker 3: losing purpose. And they're charging fans ridiculous amounts of money
• 19:04
  Speaker 3: for tickets is it is shameful in my opinion, Nicks
• 19:10
  Speaker 3: have a good now getting back to on the on court,
• 19:11
  Speaker 3: Knicks have a good team, obviously, the thunder have fantastic team.
• 19:15
  Speaker 3: The defending champions have only lost one game. I think
• 19:19
  Speaker 3: Denver obviously is good. But the Knicks are the favorites
• 19:23
  Speaker 3: in the East obviously. Uh, look at the injuries to
• 19:27
  Speaker 3: the Pacers. The Pacers have won two games like two
• 19:30
  Speaker 3: and thirteen, two and fourteen and five months ago they
• 19:33
  Speaker 3: were in the seventh game of the finals. Things changed quickly,
• 19:39
  Speaker 3: but uh, well we know, well, we'll see how all
• 19:42
  Speaker 3: this translate now tanking. Somebody in Detroit will say, well,
• 19:47
  Speaker 3: we tanked for a couple of years. Two years ago
• 19:50
  Speaker 3: we won fourteen games. Last year we won forty four
• 19:53
  Speaker 3: games with Cad Cunningham and a bunch of other good
• 19:56
  Speaker 3: young players. Uh, we gave the Knicks a great run
• 19:59
  Speaker 3: in that first round. And now they've wont Alex what
• 20:03
  Speaker 3: they've won like eleven in a row, eleven in a row.
• 20:05
  Speaker 2: And of course I met Kate at an event for
• 20:07
  Speaker 2: New York Fashion Week and now he's like tying Jordan
• 20:10
  Speaker 2: for record.
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: I'm like, of course he is, because I know.
• 20:13
  Speaker 3: I mean, so that's what the Nets are trying to do.
• 20:16
  Speaker 3: They're trying to do an Oklahoma City due. They're try
• 20:18
  Speaker 3: and do what Houston two years ago when twenty to
• 20:21
  Speaker 3: twenty three games.
• 20:22
  Speaker 2: Uh, and you know, OKC is not relented.
• 20:25
  Speaker 3: Like they look pretty good too. Now. They tanked, but
• 20:28
  Speaker 3: they also made a brilliant trade getting SGA from the Clippers.
• 20:33
  Speaker 3: And I'm sure the Clippers really rude of making that
• 20:38
  Speaker 3: trade to Shade Guildos. Alexander's sure for the trading. Wow, well, Louis,
• 20:44
  Speaker 3: this has been a great conversation. As always, I didn't
• 20:48
  Speaker 3: even feel like getting to basketball in the hall. I'm
• 20:51
  Speaker 3: glad we went a little bit.
• 20:52
  Speaker 2: But look, it is, Uh, it's a weird time in
• 20:54
  Speaker 2: sports because normally we're wanning that Giants team or Jet
• 20:58
  Speaker 2: team to do well. They're not. We're still in the
• 21:00
  Speaker 2: early stages of hockey and basketball only at the quarter
• 21:04
  Speaker 2: pole and so much more to go. But hey, this
• 21:07
  Speaker 2: is why we talk about it because you never know
• 21:08
  Speaker 2: there could be little tidbits going on. I see Obi
• 21:11
  Speaker 2: is continuing to score goals, which is pretty impressive. So
• 21:15
  Speaker 2: much so I bet Gretzkill come out of retirement at
• 21:18
  Speaker 2: some point.
• 21:19
  Speaker 3: Well, he got the he had the hat trick last night,
• 21:22
  Speaker 3: and alex I'm telling you he's going to score forty
• 21:25
  Speaker 3: this year. So that's gonna put him like a nine
• 21:27
  Speaker 3: thirty seven. Nine thirty seven age is just a number,
• 21:31
  Speaker 3: Louis when it comes to sports like that. Yeah, why
• 21:36
  Speaker 3: should he retire? Why should why he should try again?
• 21:40
  Speaker 3: He should try to get hit a thousand goals. I mean,
• 21:44
  Speaker 3: there's no reason why he shouldn't.
• 21:46
  Speaker 2: And they could win another cup or two with him there.
• 21:48
  Speaker 3: So yeah, well one last one, last thing. I know
• 21:51
  Speaker 3: you started you started the podcast by talking about Larry Brooks.
• 21:56
  Speaker 3: Obviously he was He was an old fashioned hockey columnists
• 22:01
  Speaker 3: and I read them all the time. In nineteen eighty two,
• 22:04
  Speaker 3: when the Devils moved to New Jersey, shortly thereafter he
• 22:08
  Speaker 3: quit the post and he joined the Devils, and he
• 22:11
  Speaker 3: was there ten years as the vice president of communications,
• 22:14
  Speaker 3: the Devil's office and the Nets offices in Brendan at
• 22:17
  Speaker 3: that time Brendan Bernery in before they changed the Continental
• 22:20
  Speaker 3: than izod well right next to each other. I never
• 22:25
  Speaker 3: really had a meaningful conversation. I don't recall, but always
• 22:28
  Speaker 3: you know said hi, and I mean he for ten
• 22:35
  Speaker 3: years he worked for the Devils as the VP of communications.
• 22:39
  Speaker 3: He knew he was also the Devil's radio color commentator
• 22:44
  Speaker 3: for a lot of those years. I don't think for
• 22:47
  Speaker 3: all ten years. And Alex, I'm saying this because you're
• 22:51
  Speaker 3: working there now. The Devil's games in those days were
• 22:54
  Speaker 3: on WNCA, and he was the color commentator. So I'm
• 22:57
  Speaker 3: trure I'd give you that little kid bit. And they
• 23:00
  Speaker 3: moved to w ABC. I don't know if, if if
• 23:03
  Speaker 3: Larry was still there, but he's a Hall of famer.
• 23:06
  Speaker 3: He made the Hall of Fame. He knew the collective
• 23:08
  Speaker 3: bargaining agreement inside that, he knew the Rangers, the Islanders,
• 23:12
  Speaker 3: and the Devils inside out.
• 23:15
  Speaker 2: And and you and Ryan made the point that he
• 23:17
  Speaker 2: saved the Islanders coverage on the Post.
• 23:19
  Speaker 3: Is that right? Well he might have. I that I
• 23:24
  Speaker 3: don't know, but he might have. And uh, we're lucky
• 23:28
  Speaker 3: that we have two great beat riders for uh the
• 23:32
  Speaker 3: Rangers in Molly Walker and Ethan Sears for the for
• 23:35
  Speaker 3: the Islanders, I don't know why they don't coover the
• 23:37
  Speaker 3: Devils anymore like they used to. They should, But but
• 23:41
  Speaker 3: that's I don't work and work for the New York Post.
• 23:45
  Speaker 2: But when these this that team moved to Newark, I
• 23:48
  Speaker 2: swear like it's just I mean Newark Meadowlands.
• 23:52
  Speaker 3: It's it's the same. But Brooks was one of the
• 23:55
  Speaker 3: most analytical hockey riders who covered the sport I mean,
• 24:01
  Speaker 3: and he worked at his craft, so uh, anybody who
• 24:07
  Speaker 3: is trying to emulate him should really look at at
• 24:10
  Speaker 3: his career closely. But he did he did everything so.
• 24:14
  Speaker 2: It's funny me and see you have the same story
• 24:15
  Speaker 2: of our dad's giving us the paper and just we
• 24:18
  Speaker 2: go right to Larry Brooks and hearing what he had
• 24:20
  Speaker 2: a right you know.
• 24:21
  Speaker 3: See, No, I mean, you know you want to talk
• 24:23
  Speaker 3: about it and we'll wrap up. I know you got
• 24:25
  Speaker 3: to go. It's the whole industry has changed. Yes, we
• 24:30
  Speaker 3: we go uh uh, we go to the app, the
• 24:34
  Speaker 3: ESPN app, the athletic app. But in those days you
• 24:38
  Speaker 3: had basketball writers, baseball writers, Dick Young, Pete Vessi, Dave
• 24:43
  Speaker 3: Delessandro with the Star, Ledger, U Tim Moriarity with Newsday
• 24:49
  Speaker 3: who covered the Islanders inside, how Jerry Eskenazi at the Times. Uh,
• 24:55
  Speaker 3: you know, it's just different now. And Larry Breed was
• 25:00
  Speaker 3: Larry Brooks was last of a dying breed. Unfortunately, you
• 25:05
  Speaker 3: know that we don't have And I missed that. I'll
• 25:08
  Speaker 3: admit it. I missed that. Those kind of columns you
• 25:11
  Speaker 3: had Bill Madden in baseball. I mean you can go
• 25:13
  Speaker 3: on and on, we could talk about we can mention
• 25:16
  Speaker 3: fifty guys.
• 25:18
  Speaker 2: Uh you know, yeah, No, it's it's a lot, all right, Louis.
• 25:23
  Speaker 2: This was insightful and I know our hockey fans are
• 25:25
  Speaker 2: gonna love the hockey talk today on the One ling
• 25:28
  Speaker 2: Up Network and of course the tribute to Larry Brooks.
• 25:32
  Speaker 2: But hopefully we'll have some more content to talk about
• 25:34
  Speaker 2: because we haven't even touched MLB.
• 25:37
  Speaker 3: Free agency yet.
• 25:37
  Speaker 2: That's going to be a bar and burner. I think
• 25:39
  Speaker 2: in December we were a busy month ahead. My irish
• 25:42
  Speaker 2: here about ninth or eight, you know, a little higher
• 25:44
  Speaker 2: than ninth ranked in.
• 25:45
  Speaker 3: The college football playoffs. It looks pretty good, so we Yeah,
• 25:49
  Speaker 3: I think they'll be in. They'll be in. Yeah, the
• 25:51
  Speaker 3: Notre Dame will be in.
• 25:53
  Speaker 2: And if I don't talk to you before, then happy Thanksgiving, Louie.
• 25:56
  Speaker 2: And I've asked you this before, and maybe you know,
• 25:59
  Speaker 2: let's say, wait, we'll do a Terminal's take before Thanksgiving.
• 26:02
  Speaker 2: You rehash for us your favorite things Giving memory, because
• 26:06
  Speaker 2: I know you have a few.
• 26:07
  Speaker 3: I do and that'll be great. I'll be around all right,
• 26:11
  Speaker 3: Terminalo's take for this week.
• 26:13
  Speaker 2: After a couple of weeks of business, we've reconnected here
• 26:17
  Speaker 2: on the One look Up Network.
• 26:18
  Speaker 3: Thanks again, Louis, Thank you, Alex. Always a pleasure, appreciate it.