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He Grew Up Without a TV. Then He Built Synergy TV | Peter C. Lewis · Corie Sheppard Podcast

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SPEAKER_02: I used to walk around TV6 and tell them one day I go by the station.
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SPEAKER_02: Can I find the show that I'm foreign things that are foreign to them?
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SPEAKER_02: That's a whole thing where I just like TV and I just grow up doing that.
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SPEAKER_02: And the ironic thing of that is, I never had TV growing up.
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SPEAKER_02: Never had a TV growing up.
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SPEAKER_02: I used to watch TV from my neighborhouse.
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SPEAKER_02: Okay.
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SPEAKER_02: So I started playing guitar in church and I playing playing playing plain until a couple years later I meet Marshall and them.
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SPEAKER_02: And I started playing so kind of church now.
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SPEAKER_02: And she started preaching and saying this devil music, you're bringing in here.
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SPEAKER_03: For a matter of fact, you'll not be playing this guitar in church anymore.
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SPEAKER_02: I born on that state.
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SPEAKER_02: That was the first time I get people to run, to jump, to wave.
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SPEAKER_02: It was so beautiful to see that people to see how the people white just doing that.
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SPEAKER_02: That was the first time I get that.
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SPEAKER_02: And from that day is when I can see iPhone of these two casting.
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Corie: Let's get into today's conversation.
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Corie: We done Saturday Recorder.
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Corie: You know, welcome to the Corey Shepard Podcast.
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Corie: Welcome back to everybody who's been listening.
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Corie: Thank you for all the new people who are tuning in.
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Corie: We have a special guest in the building, as always.
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Corie: Every week we have a special guest, but this guest extra special from plenty eras.
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Corie: I have a long introduction, right?
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Corie: I get both up any comments the other day because somebody was here talking about Synergy Soka star.
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Corie: And they were talking about Peter and Peter and Peter and Peter.
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Corie: And they say, but it is let people say Peter, we don't know who is Peter.
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Corie: They think it's Peter from Starlin was singing about Peter.
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Corie: I mean, maybe he'll look like that now.
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Corie: He joined the church.
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Corie: I'm thinking, I mean it close now, you know.
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Corie: I mean, he might be able to be able to open the gate for me when the time comes.
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Corie: But today we have the great Peter C.
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Corie: Lewis founder synergy.
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Corie: Well, found up about three, four TV stations.
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Corie: Let me go through the listener.
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Corie: It leads again about four or five bands.
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Corie: No, it's only four.
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Corie: Only four.
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Corie: All right, we get the great Peter C.
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Corie: Lewis.
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SPEAKER_02: Good day, sir.
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SPEAKER_02: I nobody great, but it's normal.
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SPEAKER_02: I am great to me.
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SPEAKER_02: Good day, folks.
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SPEAKER_02: My name is Peter C.
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SPEAKER_02: Lewis.
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Corie: Nice to meet you.
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Corie: One of them days when his studio fills, I know.
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Corie: Sometimes me alone here.
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Corie: But people come to see the great one.
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Corie: I just want to establish something before we start, right?
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Corie: Usually we would tell people you could ask for anything you want to drink.
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Corie: Right.
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Corie: Because we have a when I Paul Wales here to provide well being.
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Corie: I like that name.
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Corie: Yeah, we go stick with that.
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Corie: But somebody tell me you had a special drink request.
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Corie: What do you request?
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SPEAKER_01: I requested blue waters.
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Corie: Does that have anything to do with anything or there's just your food?
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SPEAKER_01: I just like how it tastes.
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SPEAKER_01: It tastes like rainwater.
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SPEAKER_02: Okay.
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SPEAKER_02: And I grew up in Pinal.
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SPEAKER_02: All right.
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SPEAKER_02: And Pinal have, you know, my parents, we used to have these barrels.
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SPEAKER_02: I used to collect the water from the, you know, when rainfall, the spouting come down in the barrel.
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SPEAKER_02: And I grew up drinking rainwater.
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SPEAKER_02: Barrel water.
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SPEAKER_02: Plenty of us.
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SPEAKER_02: Plenty of us.
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SPEAKER_02: And now, as I got older, when I taste blue water, it tastes like rainwater.
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SPEAKER_02: We might have to cut this part out, you know.
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Corie: You ain't gonna be no problem.
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Corie: There's two early endings of you.
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Corie: So it depends on the environment.
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SPEAKER_02: Nah, man, nah, man, nah, man.
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SPEAKER_02: God is my lawyer.
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SPEAKER_02: Let me go.
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SPEAKER_02: All right, let me go with that.
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SPEAKER_02: Let me go with that.
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SPEAKER_02: So, how things go with TV station now, bro?
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SPEAKER_02: Well, good, you know.
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SPEAKER_02: Um, right now we have two projects going on, which is you know, splitting.
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SPEAKER_02: Um, we have Scorch TV, which is um on you know, what's formerly We Sports, then I changed it to T10, then I changed it to ME TV.
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SPEAKER_02: Now it's morphed into Scorch.
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SPEAKER_03: Right somehow.
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SPEAKER_02: But um, yeah, because you know, there's there's a whole thing where I just like TV and I just grew up doing that.
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SPEAKER_02: And and the ironic thing of that is I never had TV growing up.
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SPEAKER_02: Never had a TV growing up.
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SPEAKER_02: I used to watch TV from a neighborhouse.
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SPEAKER_02: So we was living on the TV.
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SPEAKER_02: Watching neighbor TV.
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Corie: Plenty of people listen to this area, you're watching neighbor TV.
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah, we was living on a high thing and they were living down, right?
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SPEAKER_02: And every time they watch TV, they'll pull the curtain and I'll be standing about watching the TV, watching TV.
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SPEAKER_02: But I used to have these weird kind of dreams, like you know, seeing all these monitors and things, anything, all these TV screens and anything, but years I never figured it out until years later.
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SPEAKER_02: You know, but um, yeah, and now we have a gospel channel called Rhythm and Hope Network, which you know, um we're saying off respect to Bishop Gary George and his wife, Professor Agnes C.
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SPEAKER_02: George, they have been my mentors for the past couple years, and you know, they really guide me along with this journey, and and that, and that, and that is something that you know is um it's an interesting journey, I should say.
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SPEAKER_02: Very interesting, very interesting.
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SPEAKER_02: But you're enjoying it, you're enjoying it.
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SPEAKER_02: Every time I hear it, I like I like TV on the holes.
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SPEAKER_02: So I just like creating things and and and helping people and and you know, you know, making sure that you know somebody else becomes a star, you know, and uh that that's just me.
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SPEAKER_02: Okay, I guess you realize that that's my life.
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SPEAKER_02: You know, some people, you know, you're on a football team, some people will be the you know the goal scorer, some people go be Messi, and some people had to pass the ball to Messi and make up the team.
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SPEAKER_02: And some people are the bloody whistle or not bloody whistle, so Messi could win too.
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Corie: I understand all that.
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Corie: That part where you're going there, but you know, yeah, yeah.
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Corie: So about the journey with the church now, because I can bring you here to talk about Tilleley and all kinds of things, you know.
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Corie: Are you gonna get in trouble?
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SPEAKER_02: Nah, my thing with church is is is is is is is you know, it was just me, you know, the Bible says train up a child in the way you should go to when he's only one department.
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SPEAKER_02: My whole thing with churches, I grew up in church with my parents.
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SPEAKER_02: My mother was a pastor, um, my father was a treasurer, okay, and they were always in church.
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SPEAKER_02: Always, always, always in church.
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SPEAKER_02: My mother bought a guitar and she wanted to play Bobby on a piano.
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SPEAKER_02: Right.
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SPEAKER_02: And she never would play the guitar, any guitar would the idea.
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SPEAKER_02: And then one day I just pick it up, open the book, see where to pay your fingers, and started.
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SPEAKER_02: And I started to play guitar, and then I started to play it in church.
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SPEAKER_02: Okay.
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SPEAKER_02: So I started playing guitar in church, and I playing, playing, playing, playing, playing, until a couple years later, I meet Marshall and them, and I started playing so kind in the church now.
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SPEAKER_02: And she started preaching me and saying, And this devil music you're bringing in here.
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SPEAKER_03: So for a matter of fact, you'll not be playing this guitar in church anymore, did I say?
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SPEAKER_02: And yeah, that's so much of that.
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SPEAKER_02: Fast forward some years later now, you know, um we started Synergy TV.
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SPEAKER_02: And I did um, we wanted to do something called Synergy Sundays.
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SPEAKER_02: Right.
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SPEAKER_02: So I went to Jesus Elam, but I already went in there behind a young lady, right?
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SPEAKER_02: Right?
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SPEAKER_02: And when I go in there a couple weeks after she.
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Corie: Jesus Elam is what church?
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Corie: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Corie: Because this is not the only one you're doing.
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Corie: No, no, no, no, no.
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Corie: Listen, listen, listen.
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Corie: You know what I mean?
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SPEAKER_02: That's all right, that's all right.
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SPEAKER_02: All right, good.
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SPEAKER_02: But Jesus Elam is in Third Avenue by attire, right?
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SPEAKER_02: Bishop, Bishop Gary George.
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SPEAKER_02: You know, you look out the windows for you too right.
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SPEAKER_02: We come in Sunday, David.
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Corie: Boy, we gotta have a special word for you, but some places that wheelchair have specific, you don't have the front when the elevator from deep down below.
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SPEAKER_02: I'm going in the church here, and this girl needs the church three weeks after, right?
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SPEAKER_02: But okay.
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SPEAKER_02: So me now, I fight enough now to always be in church and be, you know, in the band still, be in church, be in the band, be in church, be in the band.
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SPEAKER_02: Long story short, we did the the Synergy Sunday thing down by Pastor Coffee Church.
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SPEAKER_02: Okay.
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SPEAKER_02: Right?
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SPEAKER_02: And I was the launch on Synergy Sundays, and that was just me just because uh a couple years before, I'd gone to Miami and we found out that I was listening to a station all the time during the week.
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SPEAKER_02: So you know, you rent a car and you're driving out during the stuff with me, but you're hearing you know, hip hop all the time.
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SPEAKER_02: I say, yeah, the station.
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SPEAKER_02: So I left it on the station.
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SPEAKER_02: Right.
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SPEAKER_02: And then on the Sunday morning, I jump in the car here in church.
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SPEAKER_02: I said, but wait, these people, they didn't the same station and yeah, it's the same station, yeah, right?
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SPEAKER_02: Monday morning, they're going back to hip hop.
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SPEAKER_02: I say, Oh, that is what they're doing.
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SPEAKER_02: So I get ideas.
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SPEAKER_02: So you come to Saturday Synergy Sundays with the whole Sunday just church, right?
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SPEAKER_02: And then back to normal programming, right?
8:38
SPEAKER_02: Them days how did them say, okay, okay, go ahead.
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SPEAKER_03: That's right.
8:42
SPEAKER_03: That's chilly.
8:43
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, yeah, that's right.
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_02: And we do so now and take it.
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SPEAKER_02: And then COVID started, and I started to, you know, um talk to Bishop George and say, you know, let me let me stream this service and thing, and he said, Okay, not a problem.
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SPEAKER_02: And then I started to go on a regular basis.
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SPEAKER_02: And then one day a lady says she wanted to buy this station, and she says, How um she gonna pay, right?
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SPEAKER_02: And X amount of money she went and pay and I get glad I was gonna do a cricket tournament.
9:18
SPEAKER_02: I hire everybody I could hire to do this cricket tournament.
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SPEAKER_02: I get an X amount of money, I pay in Y.
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SPEAKER_02: Right?
9:26
SPEAKER_02: All right.
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SPEAKER_02: About three weeks after the tournament, the lady comes and said, Boy, the dealer ain't going through, no, then it's I in debt now.
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SPEAKER_02: And everybody calling on my phone, and I said, God.
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SPEAKER_02: I hold out, hold out, hold out until one day a man called me.
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SPEAKER_02: He said, Mr.
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SPEAKER_02: Always, if you ain't giving my money, I said, God, if I get me out of this one, that is it.
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SPEAKER_02: I ain't going back and sing no so card again.
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SPEAKER_02: Ever I've done, I done, I done.
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SPEAKER_02: I go in the church, I give my life to God, I that's it.
10:03
SPEAKER_02: You must never damn.
10:04
SPEAKER_02: You must never make them kind of joke, you must never ever do them kind of things.
10:09
SPEAKER_02: Because it will happen.
10:11
SPEAKER_02: He was sure he could do it.
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SPEAKER_02: I clear off the debt.
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Corie: Okay, nice.
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SPEAKER_02: And I can't go back on my way.
10:17
Corie: No, no, no, no, no.
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SPEAKER_02: Because I think kind of person, if I go back on my wood, I feel something dread will happen to me.
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SPEAKER_02: I say, you know what?
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SPEAKER_02: Let me live up to my end of the bargain.
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SPEAKER_02: Right.
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SPEAKER_02: So it's a journey in progress.
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SPEAKER_02: You know, I'm not the most perfect Christian out there, but I still do it.
10:32
SPEAKER_02: You know, some people feel like when you decide to give your life to God, your full face just change, and you just get wings on your back and you be telling you.
10:39
SPEAKER_02: Maybe some people do.
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SPEAKER_02: Boy, a lot of them Christian people, them is the worst experience you ever feel in your life, but thank God I'm not living for them.
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SPEAKER_02: All right.
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SPEAKER_02: You know what I'm saying?
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SPEAKER_02: I'm living for the Lord.
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SPEAKER_02: I wait to I wait to.
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Corie: You understand?
10:50
Corie: So out of the streaming service at Bill into you going for Yeah, yeah.
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Corie: Or you had license something already?
10:54
Corie: How would you?
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SPEAKER_02: It's just I I always had we sports, you know.
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SPEAKER_02: Right.
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SPEAKER_02: So, so so so let me go back from the beginning.
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_02: So I used to sing in ecstatic.
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SPEAKER_02: Well, actually, we can start before that.
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SPEAKER_02: Because when I was younger, home, it had this thing called party time.
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SPEAKER_02: Okay.
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SPEAKER_02: And these group of fellas I used to sing with in school called the Bread Boys.
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SPEAKER_02: Right.
11:24
SPEAKER_02: Right?
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SPEAKER_02: So we formed this little group, and in school, and me again, where does that thing just motivate me?
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SPEAKER_02: I used to just go and play the piano in school, and I see all them girls and they used to like that.
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SPEAKER_02: So I say, well, alright, guys.
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SPEAKER_02: I think.
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Corie: It's not like the way this thing is something like the same thing motivating me over the years.
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Corie: I mean, well, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Corie: That's strange, yeah.
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SPEAKER_02: But yeah, but anyway, it starts from there.
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SPEAKER_02: All right.
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SPEAKER_02: So we didn't know, and we play the piano, and then Shell and come on, Shell and because he sing like a bird.
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SPEAKER_02: And then we find a next little fella named Jamel Fortune, and he's singing like an ex-bird.
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SPEAKER_01: And I say, Well, these fellas have a real voice, boy, why doing the end of him?
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SPEAKER_02: So I just used to blend in with them.
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SPEAKER_02: You understand?
12:02
SPEAKER_02: Right.
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SPEAKER_02: And then one day, my social studies teacher, Miss Roach, say, Well, you know why you trying to sing your casting?
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SPEAKER_02: And I go on singing some Christmas carol taking her bus.
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SPEAKER_03: In school?
12:14
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_02: And she started laughing.
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SPEAKER_02: But she would start to laugh.
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SPEAKER_03: She said, I tell you, you couldn't sing when you're doing this.
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SPEAKER_03: What school is this for this time?
12:23
SPEAKER_03: Sapaya Judia said.
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SPEAKER_02: And she laughing at me.
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SPEAKER_02: I say, but this woman really feels like you're singing over it.
12:34
SPEAKER_02: But anyhow.
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SPEAKER_02: So we had the bread boys and thing.
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SPEAKER_02: Fast forward now.
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Corie: But somebody tell me all they get the name Bread Boys from our bread van passing.
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah, yeah, like real talk.
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SPEAKER_02: So we didn't name ourselves that then.
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SPEAKER_02: We just used to sing in school together.
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SPEAKER_02: We go and see their sec now.
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SPEAKER_02: And we did, and then school done.
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SPEAKER_02: Like, wait now, what we gonna do now, school done.
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SPEAKER_02: So you're just asked some young people that they just live like that.
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Corie: Yeah, yeah, forget out now.
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SPEAKER_02: And then when school done, like, oh shucks, school done.
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SPEAKER_02: What we gonna do?
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SPEAKER_02: So you know, we call everybody and say, hey, let me practice.
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SPEAKER_02: Should we start to practice with bred boys?
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SPEAKER_02: Now then all them days I used to have to run away to go and think music and this and that, right?
13:15
SPEAKER_02: Take a mommy and then support it now.
13:17
SPEAKER_02: Nah, so while in senior sector, I meet um, I used to write calypso for Sheldon Read.
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SPEAKER_02: Right?
13:25
SPEAKER_02: So I started write the calypso for Shell and Reader.
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SPEAKER_02: So I writing Calypso for Sheldon Read now, right?
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SPEAKER_02: All this time my parents know nothing about that, right?
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SPEAKER_02: And then when I feel Peter going to school, he gets full education and anything.
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SPEAKER_02: And and but because in the night now, I used to tell them I had to stay home to do work and study because they're going out to Bible study on a Wednesday night.
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SPEAKER_02: But Wednesday night I home, and that's me alone home.
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SPEAKER_02: I had a neighbor called Miss Achong.
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SPEAKER_02: Right.
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SPEAKER_01: And I started pong that piano so this woman used to think I sing and I sing all kinds of songs and all kinds of pop songs and all kinds of things, Chaka, and you have to play it and wow, live.
14:05
SPEAKER_01: What's that?
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SPEAKER_01: I read her singing loud, loud, loud and pong in the piano and nigga.
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SPEAKER_02: But it used to sound good to me.
14:11
SPEAKER_02: Right, yeah.
14:12
SPEAKER_02: But then she had this noise, noise, noise.
14:15
SPEAKER_02: So when Daddy them come home, neighbor Lo S beat how he pong in the piano.
14:22
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I used to get two, three belts.
14:27
SPEAKER_02: So fast forward now, and Jack had a calypso competition thing, right?
14:32
SPEAKER_02: So in school, I write for sure that we don't need to win with the calypso, right?
14:36
SPEAKER_02: He win.
14:36
SPEAKER_02: Yes, yeah, he's a right to feel like big.
14:40
SPEAKER_02: So now this man, boy, we uh we teach her boy, uh what's your name, boy?
14:47
SPEAKER_02: Um what's the girl who was a girl hole in the um god, his daughter, you know, that was his daughter, and she'd get caught with her um oh jeez, all they help me here.
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SPEAKER_02: She'd get caught at me.
15:00
SPEAKER_02: I can afford kissing Mr.
15:04
SPEAKER_02: Boudram, she father, right?
15:07
SPEAKER_02: He was the art and craft teacher in the junior, right?
15:12
SPEAKER_02: And he used to be the one encouraging me to write the calypso and carry me all about the place, right?
15:20
SPEAKER_02: So Anja Junior Calypso Mona, he said the thing is Saturday.
15:26
SPEAKER_02: I said, Well, I can't go.
15:28
SPEAKER_02: He said, Don't worry.
15:30
SPEAKER_02: You write a note that Peter has to go, this that represent this school in some art craft, something I quick, you know?
15:40
SPEAKER_02: Give them the note.
15:41
SPEAKER_02: Parents say, Okay, go ahead.
15:42
SPEAKER_02: They're naive, they don't know.
15:44
SPEAKER_02: I feeling bad, but whatever.
15:46
SPEAKER_02: We gone.
15:47
SPEAKER_02: We're not gone there now.
15:49
SPEAKER_02: I meet Marshall Black's um, what's the next one?
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SPEAKER_02: Name boy, um L the one who sang Golo, Golo, died the other day with him.
15:57
SPEAKER_02: Hilton Danzel.
15:58
SPEAKER_02: Hilton Danzel, everybody there, right?
16:00
SPEAKER_02: I said, but okay, and all of them in the Calypso competitions.
16:04
SPEAKER_02: I'm seeing everybody.
16:05
SPEAKER_02: Right.
16:06
SPEAKER_02: Me, I meet Marcus, Marshall, brother.
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SPEAKER_02: And me and he said a talk.
16:11
SPEAKER_02: That's the first one I thought I talked to, Marcus.
16:13
SPEAKER_02: Right.
16:13
SPEAKER_02: Marcus, wherever I was so far, eh?
16:15
SPEAKER_02: It's a parable.
16:16
Corie: We have the band come down that so you went to play for yourself and sing out, though?
16:20
Corie: No, I was backing up Sheldon reading.
16:22
Corie: And they want to bring any band for you, so your vocals good, though.
16:24
Corie: There we go yet.
16:25
Corie: Okay.
16:26
Corie: There is there yet.
16:27
Corie: Me and Marcus just talking.
16:29
SPEAKER_02: This line in this whole talk, you know.
16:32
SPEAKER_02: Young people, we don't be talking.
16:33
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
16:34
SPEAKER_02: So we just had to talk and we hit it off just like that.
16:36
SPEAKER_02: We friends, we talk and we line in.
16:39
SPEAKER_02: So Sheldon goes up and he sing, I play guitar and thing.
16:42
SPEAKER_02: Sheldon, yeah, man.
16:43
SPEAKER_02: Sheldon make it.
16:44
SPEAKER_02: So we talking and anything.
16:46
SPEAKER_02: Somewhere around the evening, Marshall come and he said, Hey, yeah, you from Saparino, yeah, come now in the bathroom now, boy.
16:53
SPEAKER_02: I go home about the Tuesday or so after.
16:57
SPEAKER_02: I say, Mommy, um, it's have these people just ban, you know, the woman to come.
17:03
Corie: So she knows nobody in jack competition.
17:05
Corie: She knows nothing about that.
17:06
SPEAKER_02: She said, No, you're not going there.
17:08
SPEAKER_02: That is it.
17:09
SPEAKER_02: Say, all right.
17:10
SPEAKER_02: A couple weeks after now, I meet another friend of mine who, you know, his father's a pastor, open Bible in Saparia, and he has a ban in the church.
17:19
SPEAKER_02: So I say, Mommy, I want to go and join Open Bible Church because they have a ban in the church.
17:24
SPEAKER_02: And the young people think, What is wrong with you?
17:27
SPEAKER_02: We have people in our church.
17:30
SPEAKER_02: Just remember, she banned me from playing the guitar a couple, you know, months ago.
17:34
Corie: Yeah, because you're so crazy.
17:36
SPEAKER_02: She's no coming out of the church.
17:38
SPEAKER_02: As a matter of fact, pick back up that guitar and come in church.
17:40
SPEAKER_02: We have a church here.
17:41
SPEAKER_02: Why do you want to go there?
17:43
SPEAKER_02: And from then I started realize that Christian people have this selfishness about them that you know that it's right.
17:49
SPEAKER_02: Territorial.
17:50
SPEAKER_02: So she didn't want me to go in that band.
17:53
SPEAKER_02: And I the kind of stubborn fella, I say, you know what?
17:57
SPEAKER_02: I go in on my marshal.
18:00
SPEAKER_02: And I go on the and then my father finds out I don't know.
18:05
SPEAKER_02: And he comes down there.
18:07
SPEAKER_02: And poor Marshall lying and saying, I know the and it's licks.
18:18
Corie: So Marshall coming later line.
18:20
Corie: Boy, licks.
18:22
SPEAKER_02: Go on the thing there.
18:23
SPEAKER_02: So now Faster, now school done.
18:26
SPEAKER_02: Right?
18:28
SPEAKER_02: And we have nothing to do.
18:31
SPEAKER_02: So now we said we're gonna start off, get together, and then my cousin was Sean Marez at the time, he was part of the group.
18:40
SPEAKER_02: He said, fellas, we had to go and join and sing in a um thing in TTT called um party time.
18:49
SPEAKER_02: Because Sean and I, out of the only two from school, we we decided we wanted to be in this TV thing.
18:56
SPEAKER_02: From then from then, we wanted to be in TV thing.
18:58
SPEAKER_02: So he said, listen, I know this person liners spit in TTT, but we go up and tell it.
19:04
SPEAKER_02: So we gone up there and we didn't meet Linus.
19:06
SPEAKER_02: We ended up going on by advanced dynamics and we started taking anything, advice dynamics, take key to do graphics or whatever.
19:13
SPEAKER_02: And I couldn't get to do nothing and whatever, but we we we kept being friends, and and so me and him would always go up and post me looking for a job.
19:22
SPEAKER_02: I tell my parents, I'll go and look for a work.
19:24
SPEAKER_02: Right, right.
19:24
SPEAKER_02: And we're going up in tongue and we do, and then eventually we got to work with Judy Alcantara.
19:30
SPEAKER_02: Okay, right?
19:32
SPEAKER_02: And they she well, we know she on TTT.
19:35
SPEAKER_02: So we start telling people we work in TTT.
19:38
SPEAKER_02: Not realizing as, you know, in there is is a production company that does work for TTT.
19:43
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
19:44
SPEAKER_02: But we not work in TTT.
19:46
SPEAKER_02: You understand?
19:47
Corie: It's song better when they say work in T.
19:49
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, we work in TTT.
19:50
SPEAKER_02: And I meet Salandi and all them fellas, and then right?
19:54
SPEAKER_02: Well so I know to okay, we join Sean again, saying, okay, let me join this um this party time thing, and everything.
20:03
SPEAKER_02: Say, all right, let me do that.
20:06
SPEAKER_02: So we practice and practice and practicing, practice and practicing.
20:09
SPEAKER_02: And every evening around six o'clock, the bread van does pass.
20:13
SPEAKER_02: Right?
20:14
SPEAKER_02: Pee peep, peep, peep, peep, peep, peep, beep, beep.
20:16
SPEAKER_02: So everybody knows the village like bread, right?
20:20
SPEAKER_02: So we ain't taking a turn, we just practicing the song and we sing it.
20:24
SPEAKER_00: Bits of news stay by.
20:26
SPEAKER_00: We don't have to meet so too, so and we singing nice.
20:31
SPEAKER_02: So we did by Leslie Alam, we be practicing and everything, right?
20:34
SPEAKER_02: The morning to go, right?
20:39
SPEAKER_02: I out at school.
20:41
SPEAKER_02: I call Mr.
20:42
SPEAKER_02: Boodram.
20:44
SPEAKER_02: I need help to reach up in tongue with so I so I so.
20:47
SPEAKER_02: He figured out what to say, what to tell my parents, things they think.
20:51
Corie: So often your parents know what you're saying.
20:53
SPEAKER_02: They may not go on their life at all.
20:54
SPEAKER_02: They just think that Peter is a good boy and he's doing well and he's right, right?
20:59
SPEAKER_02: Okay.
21:01
SPEAKER_02: But you see, what done in the dark does always come in right.
21:04
SPEAKER_02: Okay.
21:04
SPEAKER_02: Right?
21:05
SPEAKER_02: So we're going up the road now, and we they outside now, right?
21:10
SPEAKER_02: So everybody going out the sharp and doing the thing, anything, and we just outside living and singing, and we singing and all them games.
21:17
SPEAKER_01: Oh, that's all we get.
21:19
SPEAKER_02: Time to follow the form.
21:21
SPEAKER_02: Hey, what's the name of the group?
21:22
SPEAKER_02: We don't know.
21:24
SPEAKER_02: Sean and Sheldon decide they will write down the bread boys.
21:29
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21:46
Corie: We need the money, like uh Max and House, you remember that?
21:51
SPEAKER_02: I want me to meet when we think all right, we had to go in next.
21:54
SPEAKER_02: So wait now, what's in the money group?
21:56
SPEAKER_02: The bread boys.
21:57
SPEAKER_02: Who put that on?
21:59
SPEAKER_01: Tidin.
22:00
SPEAKER_03: The bread boys, yeah, the bread boys, and Sean laughing, yeah.
22:04
SPEAKER_02: The bread boys, so they come outside now.
22:10
SPEAKER_02: No, no, no, mind you, that in particular morning had flood.
22:14
SPEAKER_02: So from Santa Flora to Saparet, it's had a kind of because Sean was in Palaco, so they had to do a kind of ring around to get to us.
22:24
SPEAKER_02: But we got through the flood and we get there.
22:28
SPEAKER_02: When they reached now, they tell me we had to come back in the next day in the evening.
22:32
SPEAKER_02: That's after we done follow the phone, bread boys, blah blah blah blah blah.
22:35
SPEAKER_02: The next day we say, No, we can't do that.
22:37
SPEAKER_02: We from South.
22:40
SPEAKER_02: So Joan Ramperside going inside.
22:43
SPEAKER_02: She comes back outside, she calls us up names.
22:45
SPEAKER_02: All right, bread boys.
22:46
SPEAKER_02: You say, All right, yeah, there we go.
22:48
SPEAKER_02: So we're going inside.
22:50
SPEAKER_02: When we going inside and we sing so they say, All right, all you're coming tomorrow, Sunday.
22:56
SPEAKER_02: I say, but we just say we can't come tomorrow to all the shots with it.
22:59
SPEAKER_02: Now they want next time.
23:02
SPEAKER_02: So now that was the time when boy, we'll get rid.
23:10
SPEAKER_02: That was the time when my parents found out because the neighbors when we sing and think, I I do whatever, and I got up there and we and we auditioned, right?
23:26
SPEAKER_02: Now we did the thing and we come back home, right?
23:31
SPEAKER_02: So now parents didn't know nothing yet.
23:34
SPEAKER_02: But the co-op right and the only thing on TV in them days was TTT.
23:42
SPEAKER_02: So the same neighbor used to be watching through the window, watching TV from, them shout out, hey, look Peter on TV.
23:52
SPEAKER_02: And I like, okay, okay.
23:59
SPEAKER_02: And I'm gonna tell you, Behold was done in the dark was always come to light.
24:02
SPEAKER_02: Well, your parents say, boy.
24:04
SPEAKER_02: Boy, I get fire and brimstone and this and that and all kind of thing, right?
24:09
SPEAKER_02: But I want to know how you're going back in that thing because you're not going to go back in that thing, not gonna leave this house and go back in that thing.
24:16
SPEAKER_02: Well, join the way, Joan Rabbers I'd call again.
24:19
SPEAKER_02: And she said, Well, Peter has to be in Port of Spain for nine o'clock because she called it home.
24:26
SPEAKER_02: She called home because I'd get that number, she put me that number again.
24:36
SPEAKER_02: Right?
24:37
SPEAKER_02: So we think, so we gone down by Marshall again and we practicing down in the bathroom.
24:42
Corie: Yeah, easy bread boys practicing.
24:44
SPEAKER_02: Boys practicing like Marshall now because we reach.
24:48
SPEAKER_02: Should we buy ecstatic and we practice in there?
24:50
SPEAKER_02: Uh-huh.
24:51
SPEAKER_02: So now the Sunday morning comes.
24:53
SPEAKER_02: So I practicing now how to make a daddy other way.
24:57
SPEAKER_02: Right?
24:58
SPEAKER_02: And we used to figure out when I open the gate to go outside.
25:01
SPEAKER_02: Because I used to get lex too.
25:03
SPEAKER_02: Because when he comes back and he see the lock a certain way, you know that's the fed.
25:08
SPEAKER_02: Right?
25:08
SPEAKER_02: So now I find a way to pick the small gate.
25:12
SPEAKER_02: We had two gates big gate and the small gate, right?
25:14
SPEAKER_02: So I find a way to pick the gate.
25:16
SPEAKER_02: So whole week I practice and to pick the lock, pick the lock.
25:19
SPEAKER_02: I say, right, next.
25:20
SPEAKER_02: I'll get out here, I will do this, our thing, right?
25:22
SPEAKER_02: Right.
25:23
SPEAKER_02: Sunday morning rich.
25:24
SPEAKER_02: My parents had the most amazing relationship.
25:26
SPEAKER_02: They married for over 50 years, and mommy would get up.
25:30
SPEAKER_02: We had three rooms.
25:32
SPEAKER_02: Mommy would go in one room and she would do her sermon in that room.
25:35
SPEAKER_02: That was like an office.
25:37
SPEAKER_02: Right?
25:38
SPEAKER_02: Daddy would do the cooking.
25:40
SPEAKER_02: But they would argue.
25:41
SPEAKER_01: Ask you in every more Sunday morning, this big argument.
25:48
SPEAKER_01: I watching this, you feel like and then it's Sunday when he reached in church.
25:51
SPEAKER_01: Hi, hey, sister Modern, how you doing?
25:53
SPEAKER_01: You good?
25:53
SPEAKER_03: I said, But what is good?
25:55
SPEAKER_01: What yeah?
25:55
SPEAKER_03: This is this is amazing to me.
25:58
SPEAKER_02: So all these things I that morning now, I get up a bit.
26:03
SPEAKER_02: I say, right.
26:04
SPEAKER_02: So Daddy walking up and now he feels he can't leave this place.
26:07
SPEAKER_02: I want to see him leave this place.
26:09
SPEAKER_02: So when he went and be, I pull on my shit and I run downstairs, boy.
26:16
SPEAKER_02: I picked that lock and I run out the road.
26:18
SPEAKER_02: I had one dollar in my name.
26:20
SPEAKER_02: One dollar.
26:21
SPEAKER_02: And as I walk into that shortcut, you could have passed you all and drive and walk straight out guns out of the streets.
26:26
SPEAKER_02: I walk across and drive.
26:30
SPEAKER_02: And I walk out, I say, God, dude, and I look in Mac and see if he's coming, looking back to see if we coming.
26:35
SPEAKER_02: I see a maxi.
26:37
SPEAKER_02: I stop the maxi, Maxi.
26:41
SPEAKER_02: I ain't telling them fellas nothing.
26:44
SPEAKER_02: I reach up in town.
26:45
SPEAKER_02: I say, boy, I run away, you know.
26:49
SPEAKER_02: He said, Don't worry, boy.
26:51
SPEAKER_02: Don't worry.
26:52
SPEAKER_02: I hire back, boy.
26:53
SPEAKER_02: Don't worry.
26:54
SPEAKER_02: I hire back.
27:05
SPEAKER_02: Right?
27:06
SPEAKER_02: So I do so now.
27:09
SPEAKER_02: And it's time to go home, so I go and buy Marshall and them.
27:15
SPEAKER_02: And I hear any night that my father calls.
27:18
SPEAKER_02: Oh no.
27:19
SPEAKER_02: And he's asking.
27:20
SPEAKER_02: And the lady answered the phone.
27:23
SPEAKER_02: And she says, Mr.
27:25
SPEAKER_02: Lois.
27:26
SPEAKER_02: Marshall and them say the same in tongue, you know.
27:29
SPEAKER_02: What do you think?
27:31
SPEAKER_02: Later in the day, Marshall them going to school.
27:34
SPEAKER_02: Lady called me.
27:36
SPEAKER_02: She said, Peter, come.
27:38
SPEAKER_02: Go home and tell your parents where you are and what you're doing.
27:43
SPEAKER_02: I'm not going to lie for you again.
27:45
SPEAKER_02: This is the last time I'm doing this, Peter.
27:47
SPEAKER_02: Go home and tell your parents.
27:49
SPEAKER_02: Wait.
27:51
SPEAKER_02: The irony of that is about a couple months before.
27:57
SPEAKER_02: You know, um a candle dagger.
28:00
SPEAKER_02: When we was going to the same calypso competition.
28:02
SPEAKER_02: He tells me, he said me down and say, I say, man, the problem my parents said, he said, young man, the problem is not your parents, the problem is you.
28:08
SPEAKER_02: You need to sit down and tell your parents what you want to do, and they will respect you for it.
28:13
SPEAKER_02: Me and take him out.
28:15
SPEAKER_02: But when the lady tells me that, I went home.
28:18
SPEAKER_02: And when I went home, mommy and daddy was robbed the table with whatever's leaked.
28:28
SPEAKER_02: And they say um daddy says son.
28:39
SPEAKER_02: Mommy says, I do like what you do.
28:42
SPEAKER_02: But he's my son and I love you.
28:44
SPEAKER_02: And this will always be home.
28:59
SPEAKER_02: Because I'm a permission to do it.
29:02
SPEAKER_02: And all I had to do was see when I'm coming home and what I'm doing and why I do what I do.
29:09
SPEAKER_02: And that was that.
29:12
SPEAKER_02: And that's how that started there.
29:14
SPEAKER_02: And from there, the whole thing of me wanting to be involved in the TV started to explode other things because I started to see, you know, I started to go out and and then I got a job in TV six.
29:29
Corie: Well, before we move to TV, because you're saying that's where music started, right?
29:33
Corie: But you're saying some things here that out of the ordinary.
29:37
Corie: You're just saying you pick up a guitar, you watch the book you started play.
29:40
Corie: Which part you learn to play the piano?
29:42
Corie: Just in school.
29:43
Corie: In school also formally.
29:45
SPEAKER_02: Not formally, mommy started to give me lessons and she beat me on the head to keep to keep your breast up.
29:51
SPEAKER_03: You know, you're gonna play it formally.
29:53
Corie: Right, yeah, of course, of course, right.
29:55
Corie: Well, I guess so you could transfer some of that to the guitar.
29:58
Corie: By the time you learn chords, you can transfer some of it.
30:00
SPEAKER_02: So and new skills and new techniques and new things, right?
30:03
SPEAKER_02: But when I went to school, Mr.
30:04
SPEAKER_02: Mendez, he was the one and tried to make it make sense to me the chords and other block it and other things, but it's a pattern, but right.
30:13
SPEAKER_02: So you're being pan, but we started playing Calypso now.
30:17
SPEAKER_02: That's how I figure out how to do little things and block little things.
30:20
SPEAKER_02: So yeah, so that those things came naturally too.
30:22
Corie: Okay, so even the times are near, right, Marshall.
30:24
Corie: I mean, still you're just gonna get an opportunity to play and to sing and sing.
30:27
Corie: Because by that time, Marshall.
30:28
Corie: No, no, no.
30:29
SPEAKER_02: But that's the ban is gone.
30:30
SPEAKER_02: The ban is the ban, and I just you are wrong.
30:33
SPEAKER_02: We just are wrong.
30:34
SPEAKER_02: I we're just friends.
30:35
SPEAKER_02: Right, yeah.
30:36
SPEAKER_02: So when I started to work in Porter, Spain, um, me and he he stayed in New Street.
30:42
SPEAKER_02: I used to ask the ladies if I could stay there too, and we say, Yeah.
30:45
SPEAKER_02: So we started living in the same house basically, right?
30:48
SPEAKER_02: And that made the friendship even better.
30:51
SPEAKER_02: You know, so we're living in the same house, but he's doing his thing, and he would come every night and say, Boy, we just mash up Imagine Company boy.
31:00
SPEAKER_02: I say this thing's so good and real nice, but I join our band.
31:03
SPEAKER_02: I joined band all right.
31:04
SPEAKER_02: So I joined Chandela, massive Chandelet, to find a way in our band.
31:10
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, because you can get the vocals or piano or guitar way, but I'm going to sing boy because remember every night I come home and say, Boy, we mash up this place, beat up and then so and so and so yeah, that's it.
31:22
SPEAKER_02: So I said, But this thing like this thing's sound good, and in them days, you know what my motivation was.
31:27
Corie: I understand.
31:27
Corie: We established that.
31:32
SPEAKER_03: So come on, you had a sing, yeah.
31:35
SPEAKER_02: You had a sing, you know, because that people back in the days, you know, yeah, you had to say, you know what?
31:41
SPEAKER_02: I I so bad, man.
31:42
SPEAKER_02: I said, I showed them I go make it, but right.
31:44
SPEAKER_02: I showed them I go make it regardless of what and I used to tell myself, I'm not going back guns all the streets, but I'm not going back there because everybody I see they're only smoking weed and this and that, and who ain't going to jail and I'm not going back there, I'm not going back there.
31:56
SPEAKER_02: So that's my mindset all the time.
31:58
SPEAKER_02: Right.
31:58
SPEAKER_02: So join Chandele.
32:00
SPEAKER_02: It was my most amazing experience.
32:03
SPEAKER_02: Chandele.
32:04
SPEAKER_02: Because I could tell you why.
32:06
SPEAKER_02: Here I am in this band, Ronnie McIntosh is the star.
32:10
SPEAKER_02: Iman Hector is the musical director.
32:14
SPEAKER_02: And these two individuals don't talk.
32:16
SPEAKER_02: What do you mean they don't talk?
32:17
SPEAKER_02: They don't talk to each other.
32:19
SPEAKER_02: They don't.
32:20
SPEAKER_02: They don't talk to each other.
32:22
SPEAKER_02: The musical director and the lead singer.
32:23
SPEAKER_02: That's a fact.
32:24
SPEAKER_02: They don't talk to each other.
32:25
SPEAKER_02: To this day, they probably they still don't talk to each other.
32:28
SPEAKER_02: I'm telling him.
32:30
SPEAKER_02: And Chandler's still going out and do what they do.
32:32
SPEAKER_02: What do you mean?
32:32
SPEAKER_02: Mashing up felt, left, right, and they don't talk to each other.
32:37
SPEAKER_03: The mediator was the ragger.
32:42
SPEAKER_03: Yep.
32:43
SPEAKER_02: He was the mediator.
32:46
Corie: Imagine that.
32:46
SPEAKER_02: I'm telling you.
32:47
SPEAKER_02: So the first day when I'll be going out to brand came on.
32:52
Corie: Wait, before you go to when you do a rehearsal, you just went on the game, but I went and the audition.
32:57
SPEAKER_02: I went on a judge and a single one step forward and two step backward and jumble.
33:04
SPEAKER_02: So I come home now.
33:05
SPEAKER_02: I say my shell banner.
33:08
SPEAKER_02: And I said, What's up?
33:09
SPEAKER_02: I said, one step forward and two step back at you.
33:11
SPEAKER_02: And boys are laughing.
33:21
SPEAKER_02: And if you say laughing at me, I said.
33:28
SPEAKER_02: Okay, good.
33:29
Corie: I said, laugh.
33:31
Corie: You said the number performed running too many performance.
33:35
Corie: Running as a means that people watch and as a whole.
33:38
SPEAKER_02: Watch it.
33:38
SPEAKER_02: We go on Toronto, right?
33:40
SPEAKER_02: And we perform it on this boat.
33:42
SPEAKER_02: But the boat don't move.
33:47
SPEAKER_02: I think it's still there to this day, Johnny.
33:49
SPEAKER_02: It's just anchored, right?
33:51
SPEAKER_02: I think it's a day.
33:52
SPEAKER_02: So we did.
33:53
SPEAKER_02: So moving to the left is a big song.
33:55
SPEAKER_02: So I sing in and so I think in my head, all right, I go um move to the left, move to the right, anything, that's what I could do to anything.
34:01
SPEAKER_02: So I go rock the boat.
34:02
SPEAKER_02: Rock the boat, yeah.
34:03
SPEAKER_02: So rock the boat.
34:04
SPEAKER_02: So let me rock the boat.
34:06
SPEAKER_02: Right.
34:06
SPEAKER_01: So I did, boy.
34:08
SPEAKER_01: I say, all right, that's what I go to.
34:11
SPEAKER_01: So my time to come and say, all right, everybody, time to rock the boat.
34:15
SPEAKER_01: Move into the left, move into the right.
34:17
SPEAKER_01: Do the song and then down.
34:18
SPEAKER_01: Let me rock the boat.
34:19
SPEAKER_02: Rock left, rock right.
34:21
SPEAKER_02: I sign up on a little cartoon thing.
34:23
SPEAKER_02: Well, I said, Well, let's put caribou.
34:26
SPEAKER_02: Them crate, right?
34:28
SPEAKER_02: And bam, I get kick off.
34:31
SPEAKER_02: I jump long down at the man.
34:33
SPEAKER_02: Check Ronnie.
34:35
SPEAKER_02: And he jumped up on the crate now because I had the crowd, I had the crowd going, boy.
34:39
SPEAKER_02: He jumped up on the crate, boy.
34:41
SPEAKER_02: And he jumped up on the crate.
34:42
SPEAKER_02: He gone with well, yes.
34:44
SPEAKER_02: And he gone.
34:45
SPEAKER_02: I said, when I told you I'm gonna watch Robert Cherry, Robert Cherry doing so.
34:55
Corie: It's running.
34:56
Corie: It's running.
34:58
Corie: Yeah, don't try and take no shine.
34:59
Corie: Don't try to try, don't try and steal a man shine.
35:05
SPEAKER_02: You understand?
35:06
SPEAKER_02: No, but um, I must say I learned a lot from Ronnie over the years, and and and to this day, he's one of the the entertainers I could say that has that charisma with the crowd and that could speak to audience without shouting at them.
35:20
SPEAKER_02: You know, how some people feel from entertainers feel the only way they could command that crowd is to shout at them.
35:25
SPEAKER_02: Ronnie was the first person I see do that.
35:28
SPEAKER_02: Then I saw Beanie Man come and do it after.
35:30
SPEAKER_02: Oh, yeah, just talk.
35:30
SPEAKER_02: Right?
35:31
SPEAKER_02: And then years later I saw Marshall, you know, grow into his own and command that craft too.
35:37
Corie: Yeah, yeah.
35:38
SPEAKER_02: Right?
35:39
SPEAKER_02: And that was thing.
35:40
SPEAKER_02: And and and and and after after Chandele, I joined Atlantic.
35:45
Corie: So what happened in the N Chandeley?
35:47
Corie: Just make a move?
35:48
Corie: Boy, I tell them I go into church.
35:50
SPEAKER_02: So you've been trying to do this for a long time, you?
35:53
SPEAKER_02: And the ironic thing about that is Marshall again telling me, because we live in his house, Peter, why you lying to the people, boy?
36:01
SPEAKER_02: You are more girls than me, and you tell me we're going to church, stop it.
36:04
Corie: But that way it's getting girls.
36:11
SPEAKER_01: Stop lying to the people.
36:14
SPEAKER_01: You are more girls than me.
36:15
SPEAKER_01: And you and you tell people you're going to church, stop lying.
36:18
Corie: And you end up going to Atlantic, so come in and join the channel.
36:20
SPEAKER_01: But I say, you know what?
36:22
SPEAKER_02: I'm going to Atlantic.
36:23
SPEAKER_02: Because I didn't want to be in that then.
36:25
SPEAKER_02: Because I thought them had the thing covered.
36:27
SPEAKER_02: All right, okay, okay.
36:28
SPEAKER_02: I always wanted to be separate.
36:29
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, you do your own thing.
36:30
SPEAKER_02: We line me and we're friends, but I didn't want to, you know.
36:32
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, make your own rug.
36:33
SPEAKER_02: Right.
36:34
SPEAKER_02: So I go on Atlantic.
36:35
SPEAKER_02: Who in Atlantic at this time?
36:37
SPEAKER_02: Well, Tony Prescott and me and Nicole Graves.
36:41
SPEAKER_02: So we did be doing my thing.
36:45
SPEAKER_02: And I had a big song.
36:47
SPEAKER_02: I know, too big to me.
36:49
SPEAKER_00: Oh, Susanna.
36:50
SPEAKER_00: Like they were here, whining.
36:52
SPEAKER_00: Oh, Susan.
36:53
SPEAKER_02: And then our next one called Bendong and whatever.
36:55
SPEAKER_02: We never really see nothing.
36:56
SPEAKER_02: Right.
36:57
SPEAKER_02: But Tony used to always accuse me of taking secrets at the band and giving ecstatic.
37:04
SPEAKER_02: Seriously.
37:05
SPEAKER_02: I don't understand that.
37:06
SPEAKER_02: So one day we had a meeting by Cliff House.
37:09
SPEAKER_02: Right.
37:09
SPEAKER_02: And he tells Cliff Harris, right?
37:11
SPEAKER_02: Cliff Harris, yeah.
37:12
SPEAKER_02: Cliff Harris, Cliff Harris.
37:13
SPEAKER_02: You gotta get heated, said I'll get to one day.
37:15
SPEAKER_02: Right?
37:16
SPEAKER_02: Because hey, Cliff Harris and Roy Mirage, them is the two people single-handedly make stars in this country.
37:23
SPEAKER_02: Remember that I tell you that.
37:25
SPEAKER_02: Right?
37:26
SPEAKER_02: Them fellas and them.
37:27
SPEAKER_02: Ask anybody.
37:28
SPEAKER_02: The two fets for the biggest fets for the whole season.
37:31
SPEAKER_02: Cliff Harris and Roy Mirage.
37:33
SPEAKER_02: Them two.
37:34
SPEAKER_02: Anyway.
37:35
SPEAKER_02: So we had a meeting by Cliff House.
37:39
SPEAKER_02: And Cliff said, Well, this big current thing had to stop.
37:42
SPEAKER_02: You know, I said, Well, Cliff, the man who accused me, I'm going and doing things.
37:47
SPEAKER_02: You know what?
37:49
SPEAKER_02: I done.
37:50
SPEAKER_02: Oh, you're going to do it?
37:51
SPEAKER_02: I said, no.
37:52
SPEAKER_02: I said, you know, Cliff, I I I cool.
37:55
SPEAKER_02: I didn't back my mind.
37:56
SPEAKER_02: I say, Oh, I given secret city man, I'm going to join ecstatic.
38:00
SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
38:01
SPEAKER_02: Right?
38:02
SPEAKER_02: And I had inside information that you know this boy was given trouble.
38:07
SPEAKER_02: And they're looking for Sega.
38:09
Corie: Who's this boy?
38:10
SPEAKER_02: We know what you guess.
38:12
Corie: Okay.
38:14
Corie: We know what you guess, boy.
38:16
SPEAKER_02: Footsteps, boy.
38:18
Corie: Right?
38:19
Corie: Yeah, so you know your show.
38:20
Corie: I ain't know a show yet.
38:21
Corie: Yeah.
38:22
Corie: I just say good, yeah.
38:25
Corie: So how long is still the Atlantic?
38:26
Corie: It wasn't long enough.
38:26
Corie: A couple years.
38:27
Corie: Okay, okay.
38:27
Corie: A couple years.
38:28
SPEAKER_01: A couple years I was there.
38:29
SPEAKER_02: You know, and then thing, but you see, insecurities are funny thing.
38:34
SPEAKER_02: And when a man ain't secure himself and he thinks he had a big hit, to he had all about that was a big hit.
38:40
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, run away.
38:41
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, yeah.
38:41
SPEAKER_02: And I was like, wow.
38:42
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
38:43
SPEAKER_02: You know.
38:44
SPEAKER_02: But I tell Clifford done.
38:46
SPEAKER_02: I reach home, I call Monty.
38:49
SPEAKER_02: I say, man, tell them boys I ready to join the band.
38:53
SPEAKER_02: He said, well, you know, it doesn't work so, you know, you had to come and draw audition and then he said, he comes back.
39:00
SPEAKER_02: He said, them boys in New York, they say, um, don't come no audition, just meet them in Tobago.
39:05
SPEAKER_02: And then they ready.
39:08
SPEAKER_02: Mind you, the first night though, I perform with them in Tobago.
39:14
SPEAKER_02: That was the first night I get to realize Marshall, your friend, and Marshall on the stage is two different people.
39:23
SPEAKER_02: Two different people.
39:24
SPEAKER_02: You don't play with that.
39:25
SPEAKER_02: So he has a thing he doesn't do with symmetry.
39:28
SPEAKER_02: So when you're when you're on the stage, when you hear and he moves this way, you either come here or Sean would come here, or you just find the next one.
39:37
Corie: Yeah, so at this point is you and him and Sean Career.
39:38
SPEAKER_02: It's me, him and Sean Career, right?
39:40
SPEAKER_02: And the first gig is to be right and me there.
39:45
SPEAKER_02: And I do something, I just stand up one place.
39:48
SPEAKER_02: And that brother watched me.
39:52
SPEAKER_02: And I realize, oh this is a different cattle of fish now.
39:58
SPEAKER_02: This is different.
39:59
SPEAKER_02: And from then I get to understand the friendship and the working is to be different scenario.
40:06
SPEAKER_02: When you're working, you're working.
40:07
SPEAKER_02: When you're tinging it, and then slowly but surely it started to thing it.
40:11
SPEAKER_02: So you know, fast forward to the time when he left the band.
40:16
SPEAKER_02: We knew it was gonna happen and we would have to prepare for a song.
40:20
Corie: So at the point in time it was going on with a recording contract or something.
40:23
SPEAKER_02: It was going on with a recording contract, yes.
40:24
SPEAKER_02: So we in them days the band used to stay in UTK, right?
40:29
SPEAKER_02: And he in preparing knowing that this is gonna happen.
40:35
SPEAKER_02: So since in August, a day he came to me, we decided to call me Clive.
40:41
SPEAKER_02: Because it's funny story.
40:43
SPEAKER_02: He he we in the we in the airport a day and everybody, you know, going through passports.
40:49
SPEAKER_02: So nappy and going through the passports at the and started calling people by their middle name.
40:55
SPEAKER_02: That's right.
40:56
SPEAKER_02: And when they reach my clive, clive, you're even there, Clive, they started laughing.
41:02
SPEAKER_02: So if you know finding all this too, yeah, Clive is really Clive is I mean he started calling me Clive from since so one Friday evening we like we've been home, we're just home in Utica.
41:15
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, and he said, Clive, what's your song for next year?
41:19
SPEAKER_02: You know I ain't gonna be here.
41:20
SPEAKER_02: You sat the resong yet?
41:22
SPEAKER_02: I said, No, and he sat and he sat up on me and let me go in the studio.
41:28
SPEAKER_02: We go in the studio that one time and we started a process to create TD.
41:34
SPEAKER_02: Right?
41:35
SPEAKER_02: And we started that process and we started to play chords and play around with this and play around.
41:39
Corie: These days we do a single.
41:41
SPEAKER_01: No, you take carbon.
41:42
SPEAKER_02: Oh yeah, abroad, okay.
41:44
SPEAKER_02: And we do anything.
41:46
SPEAKER_02: And remember, we started work on it and he started building beat.
41:50
SPEAKER_02: Now, I personally believe that Marshall could build any beat he wants to build right now and anything.
41:55
SPEAKER_02: He just allows, you know, the producers of now to do it now so that it sounds like now.
42:01
SPEAKER_02: But he could sit down and do anything he wants to do with that thing.
42:04
SPEAKER_00: Right.
42:05
SPEAKER_02: He said, he built that beat.
42:06
SPEAKER_02: I just added one like a court in there, and then he structured it.
42:10
SPEAKER_02: So by the time we night, I remember Colonel coming, um, farmer coming, screws coming, and everybody's in the room and they just dancing because the beat was sung real good.
42:20
SPEAKER_02: He said, Hey, this thing bad boy, this beat song in real good boy.
42:23
SPEAKER_02: Right?
42:23
SPEAKER_02: So then after they go and whatever they go in wherever.
42:25
SPEAKER_02: And we still stay working.
42:27
SPEAKER_02: And then I started singing Jingile.
42:29
SPEAKER_02: And he said, Boy, you're married, you can't be singing.
42:31
SPEAKER_02: Dotter just says Tilleley.
42:33
SPEAKER_02: And I said, Oh, Tillily, right.
42:35
SPEAKER_02: And then I started singing something about jump.
42:37
SPEAKER_02: And he said, No, boys, walk.
42:39
SPEAKER_02: I said, Oh, yeah, walk a mile and a half.
42:41
SPEAKER_02: Walk a mile and a half, walk a mile and a half.
42:43
SPEAKER_02: So we singing that, just fooling around singing them lines, right?
42:46
SPEAKER_02: And then I say run, and then I say jump, then you say wave, he said, right, this song ain't good.
42:51
SPEAKER_02: This song we go leave a day.
42:54
SPEAKER_02: Come back, train that now.
42:56
SPEAKER_02: Two months pass.
42:58
SPEAKER_02: I ain't touching nothing.
43:01
SPEAKER_02: He said, Clive, what about the song we just walking on?
43:03
SPEAKER_02: I said, Well, oh God, man, Clive man, he sat up on me again.
43:07
SPEAKER_02: I said, Jesus.
43:08
SPEAKER_02: I said, You studio tonight.
43:09
SPEAKER_02: I'll be going now right there and go on the street.
43:13
SPEAKER_02: He coming and he bring in this one.
43:14
SPEAKER_02: I'm just trying to structure this song now and write first and show you the chorus, right?
43:20
SPEAKER_02: And I sing it out.
43:22
SPEAKER_02: We have everything there.
43:24
SPEAKER_02: You see, all right.
43:26
SPEAKER_02: He said, Lady, I feel better having there.
43:28
SPEAKER_02: Good, I could go now.
43:31
SPEAKER_02: So he goes on his record contract and we there.
43:36
SPEAKER_02: I you know, me take it on nothing that day.
43:40
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, he calls.
43:42
SPEAKER_02: So he makes his song yet?
43:44
SPEAKER_02: No.
43:44
SPEAKER_02: Oh, and he sat on the phone, and then the lady said, Oh, God, only no match.
43:48
SPEAKER_02: Let's get on God on this.
43:50
SPEAKER_02: So the engineer now hurry and do a mix and send for him.
43:52
SPEAKER_02: He said, That is nonsense.
43:54
SPEAKER_02: That is send that down by Kenny Phillips.
43:57
SPEAKER_02: So lady sat up a god, she called Kenny.
44:00
SPEAKER_02: Look at my shelter.
44:01
SPEAKER_02: We call no my Kenny.
44:04
SPEAKER_02: Them days is tapes, M2 tapes, and then is we put it in here.
44:07
SPEAKER_02: When Kenny play anything, he said, How much kick and snare this boy put in this thing?
44:11
SPEAKER_02: You say, No, no, no, no, no, no, no.
44:13
SPEAKER_02: He said they eliminate kick and snare.
44:15
SPEAKER_02: Bring it down to about 12 or 13, or whatever it was.
44:18
SPEAKER_02: And you bring it down to that, they say, right.
44:20
SPEAKER_02: Say, boy, ain't gonna only difference.
44:22
SPEAKER_02: So you bring it down and you take it down.
44:24
SPEAKER_02: And he mixes it down, right?
44:26
SPEAKER_02: When we send that mix to the boy, boy say, Ah, that is the mix.
44:29
SPEAKER_02: That is it.
44:30
SPEAKER_02: Right?
44:31
SPEAKER_02: So you say, All right, fine.
44:33
SPEAKER_02: The first gig we're gonna perform is in the paddock.
44:37
SPEAKER_02: Cliff Harris had a fet in the paddock is the first thing.
44:40
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
44:41
SPEAKER_02: John, you know what that gig, yeah.
44:42
SPEAKER_02: Right.
44:44
SPEAKER_02: That's the second night.
44:46
SPEAKER_02: I get that.
44:48
SPEAKER_02: Everybody's hand for the hand, so not necessarily the band song went bad enough.
44:54
Corie: No, it's just yeah, people want to see that lead singer.
44:56
Corie: Same thing happened to you with Ronnie.
44:58
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, way Marshall.
44:59
SPEAKER_02: Way Marsh.
45:00
SPEAKER_02: Right?
45:01
Corie: Yeah.
45:01
SPEAKER_02: This Peter C and Roger George, we ain't sure we had that down here.
45:05
SPEAKER_02: Right?
45:06
SPEAKER_02: But okay.
45:09
SPEAKER_02: A couple of weeks later, mean something in Arima called Donkey Derby.
45:14
SPEAKER_02: Right?
45:16
SPEAKER_02: And we perform after traffic.
45:20
SPEAKER_02: And then we coming down now to go in Anchorage to perform after traffic again.
45:25
SPEAKER_02: In them days, we used to do a thing with Till Me on.
45:31
SPEAKER_02: We used to make Kevin Little feel like a god.
45:33
SPEAKER_02: Why you sing this song?
45:35
SPEAKER_02: Right?
45:36
SPEAKER_02: Watch me.
45:37
SPEAKER_02: When we finish up day in Arima, we had the crowd nice up there.
45:40
SPEAKER_02: We come down in Anchorage.
45:44
SPEAKER_02: First time I do the dance down there.
45:47
SPEAKER_02: Crowd then.
45:48
SPEAKER_02: Boy, we lick up traffic for you.
45:50
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
45:51
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, we don't be something.
45:52
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, the people sat there.
45:56
SPEAKER_02: Right.
45:58
SPEAKER_02: Vincent Rivers.
45:59
SPEAKER_02: God bless you.
46:01
SPEAKER_02: But Vincent Rivers used to come in my ears and tell me, boy, you're singing eating this.
46:07
SPEAKER_02: If boy was here, boy, would I do it like this?
46:10
SPEAKER_02: Watch me.
46:12
SPEAKER_02: Tell them Monday night.
46:14
SPEAKER_02: We do have fit in or two parkers.
46:17
SPEAKER_02: They used to call it that then.
46:19
SPEAKER_02: No.
46:19
SPEAKER_02: You know what they used to call it?
46:22
SPEAKER_02: Mobs two.
46:22
SPEAKER_02: Mobs two.
46:23
SPEAKER_02: Mobs two.
46:24
SPEAKER_02: That's what they used to call it.
46:26
SPEAKER_02: Watch me.
46:28
SPEAKER_02: Watch me.
46:29
SPEAKER_02: That glow.
46:31
SPEAKER_02: I go on under the stage.
46:33
SPEAKER_02: And I say, God, if I ain't get this right tonight, I'd give up on I done.
46:40
SPEAKER_02: That's it for me.
46:41
SPEAKER_02: I'd done it this way I'd done done done.
46:42
SPEAKER_02: I ain't doing this again.
46:43
SPEAKER_02: I ain't doing.
46:44
SPEAKER_02: I ain't say back to church.
46:45
SPEAKER_05: I just say I done.
46:46
SPEAKER_02: I said I done.
46:47
SPEAKER_02: I remember Zackwoods.
46:49
SPEAKER_02: If I ain't get this right, I done.
46:53
SPEAKER_02: And that was the first time I just said that.
46:55
SPEAKER_02: I just said to give up.
46:56
SPEAKER_02: I just said that was it.
46:57
SPEAKER_02: I ain't going on that Corey.
47:00
SPEAKER_02: That was the first time I get people to run to jump.
47:07
SPEAKER_02: It was so beautiful to see them people in the world.
47:10
SPEAKER_02: It was so beautiful to see them white doing that.
47:14
SPEAKER_02: That was the first time I get that.
47:16
SPEAKER_02: I get that.
47:19
SPEAKER_02: Oh my god, that's age.
47:21
SPEAKER_02: I said I cry.
47:23
SPEAKER_02: I said, oh yeah, thank you for sure.
47:29
SPEAKER_02: All I said hand on my shoulder.
47:33
SPEAKER_02: When I look up his boy crying next to me and saying, Yeah, Clive, boy, I know you don't understand what is be going through.
47:39
SPEAKER_03: You don't understand what is be going through, Clive.
47:41
SPEAKER_02: Yes, you get it, yes.
47:43
SPEAKER_02: And from that day is when I can say I found Peter C to be so car singer.
47:50
SPEAKER_02: Really?
47:51
SPEAKER_02: Because from that day, the performances, if you go back and see tapes, if you performances from that day is when I understood how to and the command of a crowd and how to get this and how to get it.
48:04
SPEAKER_02: It's an art.
48:05
SPEAKER_02: But it will only come with time.
48:07
SPEAKER_02: And I would like to encourage all young entertainers now to force it.
48:12
SPEAKER_02: Because some people will come out and they say now and they do, no, don't vex with me.
48:17
SPEAKER_02: We bore like a phone.
48:18
SPEAKER_02: No, no, no, it's not about that.
48:20
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, it's an art.
48:22
SPEAKER_02: If we're having a conversation, it's the same thing I tell people who come on camera, right?
48:26
SPEAKER_02: When they come to do audition on camera, they feel they have to be this, become this other person.
48:31
SPEAKER_02: No, when you come on camera, it just be natural.
48:34
SPEAKER_02: We hired you because we thought that you know you have a nice thing and you get doing it.
48:38
SPEAKER_02: And when you're talking, talk your thing and do your thing.
48:41
SPEAKER_02: And that's what that was.
48:42
SPEAKER_02: And that thing.
48:43
Corie: And it went from there.
48:44
Corie: It went from there.
48:46
SPEAKER_02: So the TV thing was always in there.
48:48
Corie: Well, before we go to TV, a couple of things about that song.
48:50
Corie: Because that song is one of them that just stays forever.
48:53
Corie: That's forever music now, right?
48:55
Corie: So when I was telling somebody here the other day that when they make top hundred lists, it can't, you can't leave it out of what soaker music is, right?
49:01
Corie: Well, you could.
49:02
Corie: I don't know about that.
49:03
Corie: I don't know about that.
49:04
Corie: We go make my own list here.
49:06
Corie: But when so the reference for people at the time, I young fet in them times.
49:10
Corie: I understand I know what that song does in the fets and on the ground.
49:13
Corie: I was one of them people maybe standing up on you when Marshall goes and becomes like what ecstatic and no Marshall.
49:18
Corie: I remember how that song just soaked into his system over time.
49:22
Corie: It's a kitchener reference, right?
49:23
Corie: Well, Lady Walker Mile and Half.
49:26
Corie: Yeah, completely different song.
49:27
Corie: But the the the the the sentiment in his song is similar.
49:30
Corie: So will you get jingle from the original song?
49:33
SPEAKER_02: The whole the whole vibe of the thing when you listen to it.
49:40
Corie: Or that's what he was feeling.
49:42
Corie: And where did the dance come out?
49:44
SPEAKER_02: Boy, I Marlon and them figure that out because them boys and them used to dance and they used to do the thing and hot dog, yeah.
49:52
Corie: You said don't call them out, though.
49:53
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
49:55
SPEAKER_02: I didn't say that, but I'm Marlon.
49:57
SPEAKER_02: Mean I don't speak my mean I don't talk to when they're nine power.
50:03
Corie: Yeah, David, I didn't see this guy in chaotic.
50:05
Corie: This guy chaotic.
50:16
SPEAKER_03: The nuts show.
50:19
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50:30
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50:40
Corie: So go and do it now, and then we could jump back into the episode.
50:45
Corie: Bang.
50:46
Corie: Yeah, so that fly and that that went where it went.
50:48
SPEAKER_02: So eventually, when you start it to get into TV in full, you leave the band to get before before I reach the this is a this is this is a lesson to all soccer artists.
50:59
SPEAKER_02: You're as good as your last hit.
51:02
SPEAKER_02: And next year does come.
51:04
SPEAKER_02: Always remember, next year does come.
51:09
SPEAKER_02: Next year does come.
51:12
SPEAKER_02: The next year I had a song called Port of Spain, and then run me for me with that thing.
51:30
SPEAKER_01: What's that match?
51:31
SPEAKER_01: Come back, boy.
51:32
SPEAKER_01: Go for me.
51:37
SPEAKER_02: Shadow Shadow Boy, boy, yeah, no boy.
51:39
SPEAKER_02: Hey, boy, boy, yeah, that's how they were story.
51:42
Corie: You thought you were you had you tell yourself you have a chance to remember?
51:46
SPEAKER_02: Because I have a lot of stories.
51:48
SPEAKER_02: But the truth is, uh, I had a friend from VP Records, right?
51:51
SPEAKER_02: She came down and she was playing match with her friend, and they were playing maths with Poison.
51:56
SPEAKER_02: So she was staying in the holiday at the time.
51:59
SPEAKER_02: And I tell myself, all right, she said, come over and go play mass with us.
52:03
SPEAKER_02: Nah.
52:04
SPEAKER_02: So I stay in the hotel and I watch TV the Monday.
52:09
SPEAKER_02: And I swear I win in road match because what can cross the stage is is TLA.
52:16
SPEAKER_02: I say, well, nice, we in the game, boy.
52:18
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, we looking nice.
52:20
SPEAKER_02: Tuesday, I decided I'm gonna go out on the road.
52:24
SPEAKER_02: She was like, hey Peter, come and play my husband.
52:28
SPEAKER_02: I go now and walking out now, and I reached by red house and I took it across to go by caller just this day.
52:39
SPEAKER_02: And I remember seeing the signal on a truck.
52:42
SPEAKER_02: But then the rain started fall.
52:45
SPEAKER_02: And I said, Nah, me, me out again wet in this thing, and I run back one back right now.
52:51
SPEAKER_02: I come back in the hotel.
52:53
SPEAKER_02: But it was raining.
52:55
SPEAKER_02: Corey, I never knew it has so much ban in training.
52:59
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
52:59
SPEAKER_02: It has pan band, sailor band, Indian band, all kinds of band.
53:04
SPEAKER_02: And all of them going, wear it, wear it, wear it, do your thing.
53:16
SPEAKER_02: I like, oh my god, if I didn't know you could have jumped on truck after truck after truck.
53:26
SPEAKER_03: Oh, that was mine.
53:31
SPEAKER_03: But then they said, Yeah, then they just jump in there.
53:34
SPEAKER_02: They take everything for granted.
53:36
SPEAKER_02: And that is why to this day, all them so card is coming up now.
53:41
SPEAKER_02: We'll never take nothing for granted again.
53:43
SPEAKER_02: Men going out hard to do the thing because that is something you don't take for granted.
53:47
Corie: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
53:47
Corie: You don't, you don't ever take for granted.
53:49
SPEAKER_02: You fight till the end.
53:51
Corie: Yeah, I tell your partner the young co win long time, man.
53:54
Corie: Vex, man.
53:54
Corie: Say, don't say that's the case.
53:55
SPEAKER_02: No, no, no, no, no.
53:56
SPEAKER_02: That fella has a science and an art of that.
53:57
Corie: Evidently.
53:58
SPEAKER_02: So he has a science and an art of that.
54:00
SPEAKER_02: And and and and and part of the whole martial experience to me, remember I tell you the first time when you look at me on the stage and realize work and place two different things.
54:08
SPEAKER_02: That's how you had to take this craft.
54:10
SPEAKER_02: When you're in soccer, you had to take it as a job.
54:13
SPEAKER_02: That's what you do professionally.
54:15
SPEAKER_02: So you have to treat it as such.
54:18
SPEAKER_02: Right?
54:19
SPEAKER_02: Because when I was doing that Synergy Sunday thing, Pastor Coffee explained our theory to me about the law of giving.
54:27
SPEAKER_02: You give, you shall receive.
54:30
SPEAKER_02: It's not just about money.
54:32
SPEAKER_02: It's about if you give everything, you see me all you will put all the energy into this show, you will see the benefits of it.
54:38
SPEAKER_02: Because you put your energy and your time and your effort to give, you start to see rewards.
54:41
SPEAKER_02: It's the same thing.
54:42
SPEAKER_02: Whatever you give into, you will get rewards back out of.
54:47
SPEAKER_02: So if you into this soak, I think for the wrong reasons, then you're wrong.
54:50
SPEAKER_02: I suppose.
54:51
SPEAKER_02: If you're into music and you love it and you genuinely put your energy and your effort into it, it will reward you back.
54:58
SPEAKER_02: And that is just the theory of everything.
55:00
SPEAKER_02: There's the law of giving you have to give to get.
55:04
SPEAKER_02: Lots of people do understand that concept, but you have to give to get.
55:07
Corie: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
55:07
Corie: People might not understand the kind of time people are put into things.
55:10
Corie: So that's why I like stories like this to show that you start with no TV at all.
55:14
Corie: None.
55:15
Corie: A whole TV station.
55:17
Corie: And so you're talking to Lisa, we come in an interview, so to Lisa, we come talking about telling her one time you want to have a TV station.
55:23
Corie: So it's something you had ambitions for all the time.
55:25
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, well, I think so, and I didn't think so, but I think so.
55:29
Corie: Yeah.
55:30
SPEAKER_02: And I say that because we used to go to Jamaica and I started see all these little TV stations popping up now.
55:36
SPEAKER_02: So in the Atlantic, we go to Jamaica, we've seen all these things.
55:39
SPEAKER_02: I used to like to perform in Jamaica.
55:40
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, it was the easiest crowd ever.
55:42
SPEAKER_02: Really?
55:43
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I remember we we we perform in trade.
55:46
SPEAKER_02: I go to flower mills and everybody they're moving in a butt.
55:51
SPEAKER_02: And when they go down, pay one.
55:53
SPEAKER_02: Well cool.
55:54
SPEAKER_02: What is that?
55:56
SPEAKER_02: So I think I figured out how to do that.
55:59
SPEAKER_02: And then as time went on, you'd know how to marry the two because it's two different audiences.
56:03
SPEAKER_02: So you had to now as a poster, you know?
56:06
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
56:07
SPEAKER_02: So so so, yeah.
56:08
SPEAKER_02: So it was an art of learning all them things.
56:10
SPEAKER_02: So in Jamaica, we've seen all these little TV stations popping up.
56:13
Corie: Right.
56:13
SPEAKER_02: So I come back home now and I say, I say, well, it don't have no way for in them.
56:19
SPEAKER_02: There's no social media.
56:20
SPEAKER_02: So we don't have no way to see who the artists are that's singing these songs and performing this in anything.
56:25
SPEAKER_02: And then I did a video for Marshall called Music Farm.
56:29
SPEAKER_02: Right?
56:30
SPEAKER_02: And that was the first time I do a thing, and I say, that was a that was a whole issue too.
56:36
SPEAKER_02: Because I beg Marshall to do the video and then say, all right, Clive, you gotta edit it.
56:40
Corie: Oh, he didn't know?
56:41
SPEAKER_02: No, them never knew me to do no kind of I say, I say, I want to do it.
56:46
SPEAKER_02: He said, All right, I beg him so much, he said, all right, I got it.
56:51
SPEAKER_02: So we do it.
56:52
SPEAKER_02: Marget Curtis Popwell to edit it.
56:55
SPEAKER_02: Sure.
56:55
SPEAKER_02: And I had Gotti shoot it.
56:57
SPEAKER_02: Okay.
56:57
SPEAKER_02: Right?
57:00
SPEAKER_02: So we do so now.
57:02
SPEAKER_02: I remember they were in uh when there was boy, they was they performed in the paddock, and from the paddock they went straight to Pariah.
57:11
SPEAKER_02: Right?
57:12
SPEAKER_02: Straight down Saparia in the market.
57:14
SPEAKER_02: And I say, well, I just want this to be like, you know, they're going through the market and they're doing the thing, and then we go on the farm because Monty had this little garden he had down in Panasonic down there.
57:24
SPEAKER_02: Right.
57:25
SPEAKER_02: And he used to thing the thing.
57:26
SPEAKER_02: So you say we did your session there, right?
57:28
SPEAKER_02: Now to any dividend now was a scene because every time I try to find Curtis, Curtis, I think, Curtis, I think it is.
57:33
SPEAKER_02: Them days I sing him in Chandelay.
57:35
SPEAKER_02: Right?
57:36
SPEAKER_02: So I sing and thinking, thing, and thinking.
57:38
SPEAKER_02: Curtis said, hi brad boy, we doing it tonight.
57:40
SPEAKER_02: It was a Saturday night.
57:42
SPEAKER_02: I had to perform in Arima Village Room with Chandelay.
57:48
SPEAKER_02: Right?
57:49
SPEAKER_02: So I stay TV six.
57:52
SPEAKER_02: I wait till Curtis reached.
57:53
SPEAKER_02: Them days me and no car.
57:55
SPEAKER_02: So I stay there.
57:56
SPEAKER_02: I wait.
57:57
SPEAKER_02: He reached.
57:58
SPEAKER_02: I say, right.
57:59
SPEAKER_02: I said, Curtis, I'm coming back.
58:01
SPEAKER_02: I jump in my car, I go up, and them days my girlfriend living up Arima.
58:05
SPEAKER_02: I go back, she changed him, come up before.
58:08
SPEAKER_02: When after the party now, coming home, she says I was driving in her royal salon.
58:13
SPEAKER_02: She said, Peter, next time we're not walking ahead.
58:15
SPEAKER_02: I say, girl, we're walking me up.
58:18
SPEAKER_02: Chop she home, jump in her maxi, head back in TV six.
58:22
SPEAKER_02: It was about one o'clock in the morning.
58:23
SPEAKER_02: I think Chris is still there.
58:24
SPEAKER_02: I said, Thank God.
58:25
SPEAKER_02: I lied on the front of the door.
58:35
SPEAKER_03: So it's at the main one, and then I had the next one.
58:37
SPEAKER_03: So I lied on the front of the door.
58:46
SPEAKER_03: So you come back and think about six o'clock in the morning.
58:50
SPEAKER_03: You make my bread going.
58:51
SPEAKER_03: Done.
58:51
SPEAKER_03: Video done.
58:52
Corie: And he's gone.
58:54
SPEAKER_02: And I watch the video, say, wow.
58:56
Corie: When you watch it in the way I have, you know it did good.
58:59
SPEAKER_02: It was great.
59:01
SPEAKER_02: It was great.
59:02
SPEAKER_03: I was like, wow.
59:05
SPEAKER_03: Go no.
59:06
SPEAKER_02: Pray it for a boy.
59:08
SPEAKER_02: Boy, like, whoo good.
59:14
Corie: Yeah, one of the most iconic videos we know.
59:17
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, that was, and that was that.
59:19
SPEAKER_02: That was that.
59:20
SPEAKER_02: I never get to do my next video from another, but I could see why.
59:23
Corie: I could see why I could have someone to switch.
59:27
SPEAKER_02: But yeah, one of the myconic things we I don't think that and around that same time now, Richard Pussel was the production manager anytime, say they want to do a jingle for TV six.
59:40
SPEAKER_02: And I say, What I could do this man.
59:42
SPEAKER_02: What's the team?
59:43
SPEAKER_02: And they come up with the whole team.
59:44
SPEAKER_02: If it's happening, it's on six.
59:46
SPEAKER_02: So I go now my eyeball.
59:47
SPEAKER_02: I say, eyebo, I have this jingle to do here.
59:51
SPEAKER_02: Say, yeah, man, Peterman.
59:52
SPEAKER_02: I say, but who paid for it?
59:53
SPEAKER_02: TV six, go pay for it.
59:55
SPEAKER_02: It's all right, nice thing.
59:57
SPEAKER_02: So we sit down and we start up, man.
1:00:00
SPEAKER_00: And I say, if it's happening, it's on six.
1:00:04
SPEAKER_00: Woo!
1:00:05
SPEAKER_02: And he said, okay.
1:00:06
SPEAKER_02: And we do different versions of it.
1:00:07
SPEAKER_02: So that reggae ta thing, right?
1:00:11
SPEAKER_02: Come back and play for them.
1:00:12
SPEAKER_02: They say, This is amazing, Breadboy.
1:00:18
SPEAKER_02: So they do the video now.
1:00:20
SPEAKER_02: Uh huh.
1:00:20
SPEAKER_02: They have me dancing with um what do you think name with all our green screens with me in the different little shows and like that thing?
1:00:28
SPEAKER_02: So it was Curtis who had done that.
1:00:30
SPEAKER_02: Right.
1:00:31
SPEAKER_02: So when I see Curtis do that, that's I get Curtis to do the video for Marsha.
1:00:38
SPEAKER_02: The world's come together.
1:00:40
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
1:00:41
SPEAKER_02: So when he do that, I say, all right.
1:00:42
SPEAKER_02: So you can do that, uh, that's I beg and yeah, and that's and that's that, and that's how that happened.
1:00:48
Corie: All right, which are with you.
1:00:50
Corie: Yeah, so how would Richard plan for TV station like snow?
1:00:53
SPEAKER_02: Well, simple because I used to walk around TV6 and tell them one day I go by the station.
1:01:00
Corie: Oh, so it was that you had the local content as one of the issues, isn't it?
1:01:04
SPEAKER_02: Because I I I just find that we never used to see the the artists on unless unless you know what Bungie Garden looks like, you wouldn't never know what he is.
1:01:13
Corie: It's one of the reasons that music farm things start out to our era so much because you never really see you.
1:01:18
Corie: I guess you will see them, but you never see them like that.
1:01:20
Corie: Because it's had a fun element to everybody in the band that's yeah, like Vincent looks serious, but in that video it sort of looked like you know and that's what they were.
1:01:28
SPEAKER_02: They were fun, bunch of fun loving people.
1:01:30
Corie: Yeah, who would know?
1:01:31
Corie: Who would know?
1:01:32
SPEAKER_02: When they're on the stage, they're on the stage, of course.
1:01:33
Corie: Yeah, work is work, like you say, right?
1:01:35
SPEAKER_02: You know, but and that was that, and and and that came from Monty and and and Lady instilling in us this work ethic that you know we had to, and then boy had this thing, he would chill us for hours, and we'd practice, we practice, we practice.
1:01:48
SPEAKER_02: But most of the times though, we just used to talk the set through.
1:01:51
SPEAKER_02: Right, right.
1:01:52
SPEAKER_02: So we said, I'm gonna be talking what we're going and do, talk, talk it out, talk it out.
1:01:55
SPEAKER_02: First like an architect, you know, he said, I'm gonna plan your thing.
1:01:57
SPEAKER_02: Right.
1:01:58
SPEAKER_02: So you talk what we go in and do, when you talk it out, then we executed it.
1:02:01
SPEAKER_02: So it was about us knowing each other's vibe and knowing each other feeling and knowing each other thing.
1:02:06
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
1:02:06
SPEAKER_02: Then, you know, when he stopped ecstatic, he said, Well, Peter Boy, you know, Clive, um, we support you in your TV thing, you know, but stick with Benet with this thing that we can go.
1:02:15
SPEAKER_02: I want to come up with the music thing, I want to do it this way, I want to do it.
1:02:18
SPEAKER_02: Right.
1:02:18
SPEAKER_02: And I say, Hi boy, I'm supporting it.
1:02:21
SPEAKER_02: Okay, okay.
1:02:21
SPEAKER_02: And when it was time for the TV part now, he he did actually support Bennett, you know.
1:02:25
SPEAKER_02: And and the the name Synergy was actually from him.
1:02:28
Corie: Really?
1:02:29
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
1:02:29
SPEAKER_02: He he said, Call it Synergy TV boy, bringing cultures together.
1:02:33
SPEAKER_02: That was his.
1:02:34
Corie: I understand.
1:02:35
Corie: I understand.
1:02:35
SPEAKER_02: That was his thing.
1:02:36
Corie: But this was a time where, like, no, we have plenty of TV stations now.
1:02:39
Corie: Yeah, yeah.
1:02:40
SPEAKER_02: Everybody just trying to do it now because they're just doing it, but they don't have no purpose behind it.
1:02:43
SPEAKER_02: See, any any anything in life you're doing, once you have a purpose behind it, it will succeed.
1:02:49
SPEAKER_02: Right.
1:02:49
SPEAKER_02: Because you know what the end result is.
1:02:51
SPEAKER_02: Gotcha.
1:02:51
SPEAKER_02: But if you just start something and you have no idea what the end result is gonna be, you can spin top.
1:02:55
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, you go blow anyway.
1:02:56
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, you can spin top in mud.
1:02:57
SPEAKER_02: You ain't gonna you ain't gonna make things like that.
1:02:59
Corie: Yeah, for sure, for sure.
1:03:00
SPEAKER_02: You have to know what the end result is.
1:03:01
Corie: So by this time you have enough experience to understand what programming looks like and all that.
1:03:05
Corie: Because if you're gonna start a station near the frail, you're gonna show.
1:03:07
SPEAKER_02: No, I said I'm gonna watch, I said I'm gonna watch MTV for for a week straight and get to realize you're not them showing the same thing over and over and over.
1:03:20
SPEAKER_02: So I say, Oh, that one let's do right, okay.
1:03:23
SPEAKER_02: So we let's do a four-hour grid, yeah.
1:03:25
Corie: Okay, and rotate it.
1:03:27
Corie: So, what was your forwards?
1:03:28
Corie: What content did it had initially?
1:03:29
Corie: What was your first subject?
1:03:32
Corie: And then host and that kind of thing, yeah.
1:03:35
Corie: We are hosting.
1:03:36
SPEAKER_02: Um, I think it was wasn't Whitney, I think it was Whitney or um husband, yeah.
1:03:42
SPEAKER_02: Whitney was one, yeah.
1:03:43
SPEAKER_02: Whitney was one, but I think she came on afterwards, but it was Hans, I think, before my before hands.
1:03:49
SPEAKER_02: Oh no, before all of them, it was this girl who used to sing Nikki Cordner.
1:03:52
SPEAKER_02: Okay, okay, okay.
1:03:53
SPEAKER_02: Nicki Cordner was one, right?
1:03:55
SPEAKER_02: Right, and then um it was me going about the place talking the people and talking to say beat speaks.
1:04:08
SPEAKER_02: But the wig came after the fact though, but but I think the one that time was was was was was World Cup or something.
1:04:14
SPEAKER_02: So right, so you're going around talking, yeah.
1:04:16
SPEAKER_02: Going around talking to people and that kind of thing.
1:04:18
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, but around the time I heard start and thing, I I I can't remember too much of all the all the players and all the people involved in them, but um But you guys off the ground, yeah.
1:04:27
Corie: It was off the ground, yeah.
1:04:28
SPEAKER_02: Right off the ground.
1:04:29
SPEAKER_02: It was it was it was a weird thing to do though, and I say weird because I started this and Tat didn't thing.
1:04:37
Corie: Uh huh.
1:04:38
SPEAKER_02: Tat came after the fact.
1:04:40
SPEAKER_02: Okay, and because CNC3 had to do something, and it was Dominic Calipas had called me at the and he said, um Peter, how are we doing this thing?
1:04:48
SPEAKER_02: We want to do an interview to you, and then he this guy see what to do with me.
1:04:53
SPEAKER_02: And say I asked me a set of questions.
1:04:55
SPEAKER_02: So me naive again.
1:04:56
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, you got to do it.
1:04:57
SPEAKER_02: I took I talking to Dominic Calipas.
1:04:59
SPEAKER_02: I know Dominic good with six blah blah tiny, right?
1:05:03
SPEAKER_02: Next thing you know, you say, Okay, Tati's gonna call you now.
1:05:06
SPEAKER_01: You have to be phone and them call me, and I say, Yeah, okay, whatever.
1:05:17
Corie: But what's it this is telecommunication authority?
1:05:19
Corie: What are they calling you about?
1:05:20
Corie: What's the problem?
1:05:21
SPEAKER_02: We sat a whole TV station without them.
1:05:23
Corie: Okay, alright.
1:05:23
Corie: So you would so and Marshall is supported just for cameras.
1:05:30
Corie: We just we just it's just to get anything off the ground.
1:05:33
SPEAKER_02: No, boy, that's a whole thing, you know.
1:05:36
SPEAKER_02: When we say at synergy TV and thing, and I go and I'm talking to her watching Lee because we have no money.
1:05:41
SPEAKER_02: So you're talking to her what and I was saying, Hey, I wanted to do TV all years, no, no, da da da.
1:05:46
SPEAKER_02: He wasn't he carrying anytime.
1:05:48
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, he wasn't gonna boot and thing.
1:05:50
SPEAKER_02: He said, Boy, he said, but in government, I can't do this, right?
1:05:52
SPEAKER_02: So I'll put you onto somebody who could do this.
1:05:54
SPEAKER_02: That's how I mean Stuart Young.
1:05:56
SPEAKER_02: I see.
1:05:57
SPEAKER_02: So Stuart was the one that incorporated the whole thing and do everything.
1:06:00
SPEAKER_02: Thing and then and we couldn't talk to Howard, so Stuart had to talk to right because Stuart would give me advice on this and that, and then so it's true.
1:06:08
SPEAKER_02: Stuart was really part of Synergy TV.
1:06:10
Corie: Alright, okay, we confirmed that here.
1:06:12
Corie: We know if you can leave that, you know.
1:06:13
Corie: The climate is a little tense, you know.
1:06:16
Corie: Brother, my lawyer is Jesus Christ, bro.
1:06:18
SPEAKER_02: Come on.
1:06:20
Corie: Mine is David Wes.
1:06:21
Corie: Yours better than mine.
1:06:22
SPEAKER_02: No, boy, no boy.
1:06:23
SPEAKER_02: You don't know who my lawyer is?
1:06:24
SPEAKER_02: Larry Williams.
1:06:26
SPEAKER_02: Come.
1:06:26
SPEAKER_02: Larry's the best there's boy.
1:06:28
Corie: Yeah, no, but it's interesting to hear that.
1:06:30
Corie: It's always good to hear the origin stories of them things.
1:06:32
Corie: Some iconic shows that come out of it because I remember JW.
1:06:35
Corie: What was the name of it?
1:06:36
Corie: Friday Night Live?
1:06:37
Corie: No, no, JW was Synergy Nights.
1:06:39
Corie: Synergy Nights.
1:06:39
Corie: It was every night.
1:06:40
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, he was Monday to Thursday.
1:06:42
Corie: Right.
1:06:42
SPEAKER_02: And Friday night, what's it?
1:06:44
SPEAKER_02: Friday night starts with.
1:06:46
SPEAKER_02: Interesting.
1:06:48
SPEAKER_02: Tony Town and all.
1:06:50
SPEAKER_02: I called Tony, he was bringing down Sisla.
1:06:54
SPEAKER_02: Right?
1:06:55
SPEAKER_02: He bringing down Sizzla.
1:06:57
SPEAKER_02: So we say, hey, we go live, boy, because Sizzla will come in.
1:07:00
SPEAKER_02: I call that Tony.
1:07:01
SPEAKER_02: I want Sizzla to come on the arm.
1:07:03
SPEAKER_02: Station boy.
1:07:05
SPEAKER_02: Alright, yeah, we go.
1:07:07
SPEAKER_02: Sizzla, okay, but I don't know that.
1:07:08
SPEAKER_02: So yeah, we're gonna get him to come.
1:07:10
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, yeah, no, not a problem.
1:07:12
SPEAKER_02: Because the band performing.
1:07:14
SPEAKER_02: Right?
1:07:14
SPEAKER_02: Okay, okay.
1:07:15
SPEAKER_02: So we practicing in the back.
1:07:17
SPEAKER_02: And we set up in the front now, lady office.
1:07:19
SPEAKER_02: Now we set up in the front now.
1:07:20
SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
1:07:21
SPEAKER_02: So we go live there.
1:07:22
SPEAKER_02: Right?
1:07:24
SPEAKER_02: So we set up everything and we set up the phone line now.
1:07:28
SPEAKER_02: We own phone, so we take an ecstatic line and pray there.
1:07:32
Corie: Yeah, these days is an ecstatic office.
1:07:33
Corie: What's the name of the street again?
1:07:34
SPEAKER_03: 39 street street.
1:07:36
SPEAKER_03: Right?
1:07:36
SPEAKER_03: So we there now.
1:07:37
SPEAKER_02: And we say, Shall we go do it?
1:07:39
SPEAKER_02: Shal say, yeah, we come, right?
1:07:42
SPEAKER_02: So the night comes, we practicing in the back, Charles start a talk.
1:07:47
SPEAKER_02: I say, boy, um, show no hotel, man.
1:07:49
SPEAKER_02: Um, the artist's not coming in on you could go and sit down with you.
1:07:52
SPEAKER_02: He said, Yeah, no problem, man.
1:07:53
SPEAKER_02: So we leave the practice and we go in the front, and he and Shal start a talk and say and we give the number thing, and the phone ring.
1:08:00
SPEAKER_03: Wait, we get a phone call, we get a phone call.
1:08:04
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
1:08:05
SPEAKER_03: And people calling this thing, and then we say, wait now, people watching this thing.
1:08:08
SPEAKER_01: Why couldn't I hear?
1:08:11
SPEAKER_01: I just say, Wow, this is amazing.
1:08:15
SPEAKER_01: People take it and say, Who?
1:08:17
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, and then we get things, and then I I call, I can't remember how I called Wendell, but I called Wendell and I Paul because we wanted to do the the synergy nights, and we called Jason.
1:08:26
SPEAKER_02: And the amazing thing about Jason, Jason to this day never asked about much money again.
1:08:31
SPEAKER_02: We paid him and anything, and he took it and he did anything, and Jason used that opportunity as a stepping stone.
1:08:39
SPEAKER_02: He used that opportunity to say, okay, look at me here, this is what I can do.
1:08:43
SPEAKER_02: And he did his thing, and people hired him to do other things.
1:08:47
SPEAKER_02: And that is a catalyst for a lot of young people to learn.
1:08:50
SPEAKER_02: Sometimes you might look at things and they see it as exploitation, but it's not.
1:08:54
SPEAKER_02: You have to look at things as learning experiences, take those experiences and make that work for you.
1:09:02
SPEAKER_02: Because look at Will Smith.
1:09:04
SPEAKER_02: Will Smith said he went in this thing, and the man tell him you could do it today, or you're about to do it today, or you could do it next three weeks when nobody ain't gonna go here, and then they will say they have meetings and they can do it and they put it on there.
1:09:13
SPEAKER_02: They say they know whenever.
1:09:14
SPEAKER_02: And they say, Okay, let's do it.
1:09:16
SPEAKER_02: And they did it in the now and the then, and look at where Will is now.
1:09:19
Corie: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
1:09:19
Corie: That's who I know JW to be since we was in school.
1:09:22
Corie: He's a man to show up.
1:09:23
SPEAKER_02: Exactly.
1:09:23
SPEAKER_02: He's a man to show up, yeah.
1:09:26
SPEAKER_02: Uhmost respect for him and Sonny Bling.
1:09:29
SPEAKER_02: Because Sonny Bling, they never complain about their money, but you know that they they I mean, it was at the time it was okay.
1:09:38
SPEAKER_02: We cannot get them more, but we didn't wasn't making that amount to really get them anymore.
1:09:42
SPEAKER_02: I wanted to, but we couldn't afford it to.
1:09:44
SPEAKER_02: And them fellas and them take them opportunities and they make it work for them.
1:09:48
Corie: The sunny was making money because you used to come in a big gold chain or big black sword, big gold thing that things happen.
1:09:54
SPEAKER_03: Come on, come on, you fall for illusion, too.
1:10:00
Corie: I hope people can remember that Sonny Blink because people watch people now too, as you know, they watch JW watch Sonny Blink as if somebody knows something was granted to them.
1:10:08
Corie: It's been a long time.
1:10:09
SPEAKER_02: You have to take your opportunity you get and make it work for you, and that and that's and that's what it is, you know.
1:10:14
SPEAKER_02: And a lot of the shows that would have come out of that is things that I never believe in reinventing the wheel.
1:10:21
SPEAKER_02: The wheel is already done, you localize it.
1:10:23
SPEAKER_02: So for the soccer stars, for example, I we was in London and I was watching X Factor.
1:10:31
SPEAKER_02: And I remember Jerome was your roommate, Jerome Salandi, so Salandi's son, by the way, because I gave him a job.
1:10:36
SPEAKER_02: See, so see, see, his father helped me years ago, give me a job.
1:10:40
SPEAKER_02: Now his son came, I gave him a job.
1:10:42
SPEAKER_02: Then you see, so I said life.
1:10:43
SPEAKER_02: You see, Bridges, you must never burn bridges, you never come back.
1:10:46
SPEAKER_02: So me and Salandi in London and I watching the show, and the show X Facts, and I say, but this thing is real nice, boy.
1:10:54
SPEAKER_02: And then they had the judges judging it, and they say, This I'm real day.
1:10:57
SPEAKER_02: So the band is going to Sweden, right?
1:11:00
SPEAKER_02: The next day.
1:11:02
SPEAKER_02: So I on the plane and I'm writing it down and I'm from it back.
1:11:09
SPEAKER_02: So can stop.
1:11:12
SPEAKER_02: I'm up three judges, I wrote everything on the play, right?
1:11:15
SPEAKER_02: I asked one or twenty band members if they're gonna do it for men and then how much you're paying, this idea, that right when we reach Sweden, boy and them in a corner.
1:11:25
SPEAKER_02: I go to boy, I say, boy, we think about soakers that I want to do that when you go back home.
1:11:30
SPEAKER_02: He said, Alive, that's our best idea, boy.
1:11:33
SPEAKER_02: Yes, I'm that, I'm that, and you and the rest is history from that.
1:11:37
SPEAKER_02: That's how that idea came about.
1:11:38
SPEAKER_02: Right?
1:11:39
SPEAKER_02: How we get the different players in the dudes.
1:11:41
SPEAKER_02: We had Paul Richards, we had Beaver, and we had Carol, right?
1:11:45
SPEAKER_02: And boy was our judge, right?
1:11:47
SPEAKER_02: It's Carol Jacobs.
1:11:48
SPEAKER_02: Carol Jacobs, yeah.
1:11:49
SPEAKER_02: So when we decide now to go to the next level now, Paul said he wants to have this boy as a host, right?
1:11:55
SPEAKER_02: Um so you bring this boy as a host, but somewhere along the line, the boy not doing what he's supposed to do.
1:12:01
SPEAKER_02: Right, yeah, yeah, right.
1:12:02
SPEAKER_02: So I pick up my phone and I say, Hey, Jiger, where is that?
1:12:06
Corie: Nobody named Jigger themselves.
1:12:08
SPEAKER_02: Well, TC, whatever, yeah, TC.
1:12:10
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, TC, where is?
1:12:12
SPEAKER_02: Right?
1:12:13
SPEAKER_02: You say, he said, around the savannah, boy.
1:12:17
SPEAKER_02: I say, come here, no, where he is.
1:12:20
SPEAKER_02: Um, but it was 51 degrees.
1:12:23
SPEAKER_02: Oh, okay.
1:12:26
SPEAKER_02: Boy, the man show up within five minutes.
1:12:29
SPEAKER_02: The man show up.
1:12:30
SPEAKER_02: Ready on this one?
1:12:31
SPEAKER_02: Oh, yeah.
1:12:32
SPEAKER_02: I just had him a mic and said, Go on stage and introduce that.
1:12:36
Corie: So it's to go, it's not about the show, it's it's go time.
1:12:41
SPEAKER_02: He didn't know what he was gonna do.
1:12:42
SPEAKER_02: I just gave me mic and said, Go on the stage and introduce that fella.
1:12:46
SPEAKER_02: And when he introduced the fella, boy, watch him.
1:12:51
Corie: So we're marking two people as truth tellers, right?
1:12:53
Corie: Shira Mohammed Jaiga.
1:12:55
Corie: So far, the story is checking off.
1:12:56
Corie: We're checking up stories as we go in.
1:12:57
Corie: No, shoot.
1:12:58
Corie: All right, good.
1:12:58
Corie: All right, good.
1:12:59
Corie: That's how that's how he became the host of the book.
1:13:01
Corie: He said so, he said so.
1:13:02
Corie: And Shira says she's still not the vomit bag somewhere.
1:13:05
Corie: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
1:13:10
SPEAKER_02: No, no, no, but no, but that's how that started.
1:13:12
SPEAKER_02: And the night before it actually got started, I was on the phone with Stuart, and he was, you know, saying, Peter, if we don't have sponsorship, it is not going on the air.
1:13:23
SPEAKER_02: And I was adamant about it because we went to launch tempo in one of those islands somewhere up the road.
1:13:31
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, no.
1:13:32
SPEAKER_02: Right?
1:13:33
SPEAKER_02: And I am standing up outside Frederick Morton's room because his thing is right there.
1:13:39
SPEAKER_02: And I know I see him going there, and I hear, well, I know tempo, that will become to launch.
1:13:44
SPEAKER_02: But and I am on the phone hugging with Stewart, right?
1:13:47
SPEAKER_02: Hey, no, but we have B Mobile is coming on board.
1:13:51
SPEAKER_02: Peter, if this has no money, we're not doing it.
1:13:54
SPEAKER_02: No, we didn't, I showed you when he came back to train out B-mobile.
1:13:58
SPEAKER_02: They'd sign it.
1:13:59
SPEAKER_02: So we did it, right?
1:14:01
SPEAKER_02: The first year when they saw all that crowd there, they say, wow, we wanted something.
1:14:07
SPEAKER_02: But I always knew the purpose of it was always to help the next generation of soccer stars get a voice and a place and a thing to be.
1:14:17
SPEAKER_02: Right?
1:14:17
SPEAKER_02: So it was always a step in stone for me because there are a lot of things that people go through that they don't understand.
1:14:22
SPEAKER_02: If everybody thinks that they could just come and sing and do whatever they know.
1:14:25
SPEAKER_02: But there's a lot of things we taught them in that show, right?
1:14:29
SPEAKER_02: We taught them the art of how to sing with a band, how to do this, how to do that.
1:14:32
SPEAKER_02: And I started my own band, right?
1:14:35
SPEAKER_02: The orchestra, but which was you know, back up those musicians and them.
1:14:39
SPEAKER_02: And a lot of the musicians now who playing with Kest and this one and that one, and 18 started it me.
1:14:46
Corie: So it wasn't just the leader, the lead singer, you know, yeah, yeah, the younger young musicians as well, too.
1:14:52
Corie: Yeah, gotcha.
1:14:53
SPEAKER_02: The orchestra was a big band, we remember Mario.
1:14:57
SPEAKER_02: You're good.
1:15:00
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, no, and then Paul was the other one that would come up and say, you know, let's do, you know, synergy next top model and that kind of thing.
1:15:07
SPEAKER_02: I say, okay, let me do it.
1:15:08
Corie: His Paul Richards was for the top model.
1:15:10
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, yeah.
1:15:11
SPEAKER_02: Because he was a good one in terms of ideas and stuff like that.
1:15:14
SPEAKER_02: He used to go every time every idea I had, I used to tell him, and he's and he would be the devil's advocate.
1:15:18
SPEAKER_02: He said, nah, this wouldn't work because XYABC would by the time we fleshed it through, we had we had we had a solid idea.
1:15:24
Corie: Yeah, yeah.
1:15:25
SPEAKER_02: And that and that and that was that, and we and we did what we did, and we didn't think and and that journey was that journey.
1:15:30
SPEAKER_02: And okay, okay, okay.
1:15:31
SPEAKER_02: All right, one more fact check before we let you go.
1:15:34
Corie: When Marshall lost the voice singing party and singing, that was your voice we were saying singing, singing party and singing in Mary's.
1:15:40
SPEAKER_02: That was me helping me back there.
1:15:41
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, okay.
1:15:43
Corie: Still our thing.
1:15:44
SPEAKER_02: I man said that was me, only so you well, I didn't know about that part, but yeah, that was me helping him there.
1:15:48
SPEAKER_02: That was the only time I know about.
1:15:50
SPEAKER_02: Right, and I doing that, and that's that is that is that, right?
1:15:56
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, C I C, yes, that was me.
1:15:58
SPEAKER_02: That's you, that was me, but my Christian self, yes, helping him, right?
1:16:03
SPEAKER_02: Doing it even Christians in the silver party, you wouldn't say no, but and and I get one outfit in church too, but uh but all good.
1:16:10
Corie: Something we had to live on the edge, you know.
1:16:12
Corie: Somebody tell no a wise man tell Matter and he had to just barely make it into heaven.
1:16:16
SPEAKER_02: No, how I look at it is that my friend asked me for the must be there for my friend.
1:16:22
Corie: Okay.
1:16:22
SPEAKER_02: If my friend asked me to help him, that's what he does.
1:16:24
SPEAKER_02: And it's our job.
1:16:25
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, come on.
1:16:26
SPEAKER_02: I wasn't even on this day.
1:16:28
SPEAKER_02: Nobody didn't know if you didn't see it, nobody happy wouldn't never know if unless I know it.
1:16:32
Corie: No, we could do it at the next one.
1:16:34
Corie: No, no, no, no, no, no, no.
1:16:35
SPEAKER_02: No, no, no, no.
1:16:36
SPEAKER_02: Every now and then I will do a little piece of it when I sing for the people in red, but you know.
1:16:42
Corie: Alright, okay, that's a good place to end.
1:16:44
Corie: Ladies and gentlemen, please still do it.
1:16:48
Corie: That's a brilliant brother.