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The TikTok Robbery · Outspoken the Podcast

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Speaker 1: Hello and welcome to Outspoken, it's your dose of the
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Speaker 1: hottest influencer and pop culture news twice a week. I'm
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Speaker 1: Sophie Torber and coming up on today's show, the TikTok
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Speaker 1: couple forced to flee their new home, why Sky Wheatley
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Speaker 1: can't stop complimenting strangers and Zoe Haig's surprise wedding budget.
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Speaker 1: But first, Sarah's day is livid with her husband Kurt
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Speaker 1: for his night out antics. A pregnant Sarah, who is
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Speaker 1: a self-confessed early bird, says she's been led astray by
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Speaker 1: his late night routine. I let it happen again. My
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Speaker 1: best friend, aka night owl husband, infiltrated my night and
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Speaker 1: has effectively ruined my day.
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Speaker 2: Yep, ruined him. He has ruined my day.
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Speaker 1: I know I'm in charge of my own bedtime. Like,
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Speaker 1: I am.
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Speaker 3: 31 years old.
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Speaker 1: I'm 27 weeks pregnant, but like, I just, I have FOMO.
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Speaker 3: If he's awake at midnight, I.
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Speaker 1: Don't want to be awake at midnight, but like, I
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Speaker 1: want to chat. Sarah went on to say how terrible
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Speaker 1: she was feeling with the lack of quality sleep. And
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Speaker 1: it made her reflect on the fact that she is
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Speaker 1: going to be feeling shit like this all the time
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Speaker 1: when baby number three is here and she's doing overnight feeds.
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Speaker 1: I'm always curious to find out what different couples do
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Speaker 1: when it comes to their sleeping habits, because My partner,
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Speaker 1: he tends to go to bed a lot earlier than me.
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Speaker 1: I'm Kurt in this situation. I am the night owl,
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Speaker 1: but it seems to work for us. When I first
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Speaker 1: moved in with Brandon, I thought I'd be like you
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Speaker 1: and be staying up late and he'd be going to
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Speaker 1: bed early. But we have this routine where we go
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Speaker 1: to bed at the same time. And I think that's
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Speaker 1: because we watch the same shows. We'll give each other
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Speaker 1: shows a go. So you don't feel like you have
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Speaker 1: to be staying up late to get finally a turn
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Speaker 1: to watch your show or vice versa. It's more so
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Speaker 1: because sometimes he starts as early as 4.30 in the
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Speaker 1: morning or- I mean, most mornings he'll get to work
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Speaker 1: at about 6 a.m. So he goes to bed super
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Speaker 1: early and I'm just, I'm not about that. No, I
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Speaker 1: couldn't do that either. But do you think you can
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Speaker 1: suddenly become a morning person? No, I don't think so.
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Speaker 1: I think you were either born a night owl or
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Speaker 1: a morning person and it's very, very difficult to change.
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Speaker 4: See, after realizing that everything I own has been stolen.
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Speaker 1: Popular TikTok couple, Isabel Peltz and Mitch O'Leary have been
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Speaker 1: forced to flee their new home after just three nights.
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Speaker 1: The couple were targeted by thieves who broke into their
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Speaker 1: home whilst they were at an influencer event in Sydney. Now, Amy,
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Speaker 1: for those who haven't heard of the couple, what are
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Speaker 1: they best known for? Well, they went viral on TikTok
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Speaker 1: last year after they shared a video each morning of
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Speaker 1: them dancing to Wake Up by The Vamps. And this
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Speaker 1: song is all about seizing the day and being grateful
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Speaker 1: for what you have. They now boast over 600,000 followers
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Speaker 1: on TikTok and are known for their fun, positive content.
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Speaker 1: So Isabel is just 19 and she works as an influencer.
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Speaker 1: So she's done collaborations with brands like Beginning Boutique and Peppermayo,
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Speaker 1: whilst Mitch is 22 and he owns popular streetwear brand Outdated. Now,
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Speaker 1: they used to live in Queensland, but they recently moved
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Speaker 1: to Adelaide. That's a weird decision as an Adelaide person.
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Speaker 1: Why when you're building an influencer career? would you move
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Speaker 1: from Brisbane to Adelaide? Because there are not that many
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Speaker 1: PR opportunities here. We don't have big influencer events. It's
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Speaker 1: a very small influencer community. Arguably, a lot of the
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Speaker 1: influencers in Adelaide don't have many genuine followers themselves. Well,
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Speaker 1: I think Mitch is originally from Adelaide. So that was
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Speaker 1: part of their decision. So just last week, Isabel shared
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Speaker 1: a series of TikToks, which she dubbed her moving diaries.
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Speaker 1: And she took followers along the journey of moving into
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Speaker 1: their new rental. And Isabel not only showed shots of
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Speaker 1: the interior of the house, but also the exterior, including
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Speaker 1: vision of their house number. Now, I won't say what
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Speaker 1: suburb it is in Adelaide, just in case they choose
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Speaker 1: to live around there again. But if you know the area,
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Speaker 1: you would have been able to instantly identify where it was. Now,
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Speaker 1: thieves took their chance when Isabel shared that she and
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Speaker 1: Mitch were heading to Sydney for an influencer event. And
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Speaker 1: when the couple returned home, they found their bedroom window
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Speaker 1: had been smashed and bizarrely only Mitch's belongings had been stolen.
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Speaker 1: Let's have a listen to what went down. If you
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Speaker 1: did this, I don't know what Mitch did to you,
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Speaker 1: but thanks for leaving my stuff.
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Speaker 5: So someone obviously, but anyway, enjoy everything that you stole
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Speaker 5: of mine in the house.
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Speaker 4: So yeah, Mitch pretty much doesn't really have much to
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Speaker 4: his name at the minute.
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Speaker 5: One thing they didn't steal, my humour.
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Speaker 2: I didn't take that one.
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Speaker 1: Now thieves also took Mitch's spare key to his U
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Speaker 1: and whilst they didn't steal the car, they did access
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Speaker 1: it and they took coins and the sunglasses he'd left
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Speaker 1: in there. They did leave one pair. They were joking
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Speaker 1: that maybe they weren't the robber's type. This is reminding
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Speaker 1: me of when Sharni Grimmon got robbed because the thieves
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Speaker 1: had her car key. So in this instance, it meant
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Speaker 1: they could come back and use her car whenever they wanted.
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Speaker 1: but they also left random things that weren't to their liking.
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Speaker 1: It makes me feel like these, it's a gang of
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Speaker 1: very young people. I wonder if it has something to
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Speaker 1: do with Mitch's business success, because I see those outdated
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Speaker 1: hoodies everywhere. So people would be jealous of him. I
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Speaker 1: don't think they're necessarily doing it and targeting him because
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Speaker 1: they're jealous of him. I think they just saw an
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Speaker 1: opportunity and thought, well, if he's running this successful brand,
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Speaker 1: he probably has a lot of cash. And it was
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Speaker 1: pretty easy for them because They've been brazen enough to
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Speaker 1: put where they live. You just go to realestate.com. You
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Speaker 1: can figure out where most rentals are. It would stem
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Speaker 1: from jealousy though. People would see that a lot of
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Speaker 1: these influencers have a lot of flashy things and then
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Speaker 1: they're jealous. So people want to break in and steal it.
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Speaker 1: I think that it's either the jealousy or it's maybe
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Speaker 1: the thieves got disturbed and they had just started taking
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Speaker 1: Mitch's stuff. Because you can see in the vision that
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Speaker 1: there's a few socks and different items that are just
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Speaker 1: strewn all over their driveway. So- It's clear the thieves
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Speaker 1: left in a hurry. My favourite part of this story, though,
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Speaker 1: is the fact that Mitch and Isabel decided to set
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Speaker 1: up their own sting. So they put up a series
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Speaker 1: of fake posts saying that they were heading back into
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Speaker 1: state following the robbery to see if the thieves would return.
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Speaker 1: It's clever, but it's also dangerous because they were almost
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Speaker 1: sitting ducks waiting for these thieves to return. And potentially,
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Speaker 1: I mean, stats show that most... home invasions do turn violent. Well,
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Speaker 1: they shared a TikTok days later and it showed them
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Speaker 1: giggling in bed as they armed themselves with household items
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Speaker 1: to protect themselves. Let's have a listen.
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Speaker 2: So Mitch's weapon of choice is a hammer.
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Speaker 5: That's all we've got in this place. We took everything else.
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Speaker 1: And mine. Mine is two screwdrivers and a knife that
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Speaker 1: was used to cut up your steak.
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Speaker 4: Avocados and steak.
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Speaker 1: Now, they were clearly joking around, but this gives me
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Speaker 1: so much anxiety because the thieves had the keys to
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Speaker 1: Mitch's car. It was likely they were going to return.
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Speaker 1: I know it's supposed to be a joke, but generally
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Speaker 1: with home invasions, the people in the home generally get
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Speaker 1: the weapons turned back on them and things escalate from there. Well,
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Speaker 1: the scariest thing is the robbers actually did return. So
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Speaker 1: poor Mitch and Isabel were woken in the middle of
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Speaker 1: the night by the sound of multiple people trying to
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Speaker 1: break into the house. However, once the robbers realized the
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Speaker 1: couple were inside, they fled. And there hasn't been any
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Speaker 1: update yet from SA police about whether any arrests have
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Speaker 1: been made. Did they set up any security cameras or
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Speaker 1: anything like that? Because I don't understand why you would
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Speaker 1: antagonize someone, but then not have a proper plan of attack.
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Speaker 1: Because in this situation, they haven't caught anyone on camera
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Speaker 1: robbing from them. they've just put themselves in a dangerous situation.
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Speaker 1: There's no police action taking place. And subsequently, it sounds
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Speaker 1: like they've been forced to move out of this rental
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Speaker 1: and go and find safety somewhere else.
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Speaker 5: Yeah.
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Speaker 1: Well, we've spoken in the past about influencers like Molly
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Speaker 1: May and Chloe Zett being robbed. I'm just so surprised
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Speaker 1: that influencers continue to share so many identifiable features about
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Speaker 1: their houses online. It's a double-edged sword though, because I
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Speaker 1: can see from the perspective of an influencer, it's great
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Speaker 1: to take your followers on a journey with you and
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Speaker 1: it's relatable to be moving into a new rental interstate. However,
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Speaker 1: I just think you need to be careful. Don't ever
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Speaker 1: show the outside of your house. Don't ever show your
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Speaker 1: house number. Don't ever identify which suburb you live in.
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Speaker 1: Those things are crucial because people will take advantage of you. Well,
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Speaker 1: they clearly were foolish for doing that. But we've got
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Speaker 1: to remember they're 19 and 22. And I have to say,
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Speaker 1: I hadn't heard of them until I saw this story
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Speaker 1: pop up. And I actually quite liked them from watching
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Speaker 1: their TikToks. They seem really positive. Like they weren't whinging
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Speaker 1: about it. You know, sometimes when something terrible happens and
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Speaker 1: you see these big named influencers who crack the shits,
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Speaker 1: they were actually very cool about the whole thing. They
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Speaker 1: laughed it off. We often get people asking in our
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Speaker 1: Facebook community, who can I follow online? Who's someone new?
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Speaker 1: And it sounds like they're quite a good couple.
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Speaker 4: Yeah.
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Speaker 1: One that's actually is sharing about their life. Maybe they
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Speaker 1: need to set up a few more boundaries, but it's
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Speaker 1: always fun following people when they're starting out their career
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Speaker 1: and they haven't quite. They've got 600,000 followers on TikTok.
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Speaker 1: 600,000 on TikTok isn't that big. Like some people have
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Speaker 1: a million followers and they're still not making a full-time
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Speaker 1: living off it.
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Speaker 4: Something non-genuine about two hot girls that already probably get
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Speaker 4: a million compliments compliment each other.
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Speaker 1: Sophie, I want to know, where do you stand on
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Speaker 1: complimenting strangers in public? Because Skye Wheatley and her partner, Lockie,
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Speaker 1: have sparked debate about the sincerity behind it. I'm a
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Speaker 1: big one for giving strangers compliments. I am known if
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Speaker 1: I go order food or if I buy something at
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Speaker 1: the shop, I will often, generally girls, I don't give compliments. compliments.
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Speaker 1: I will always give a girl a compliment. Yeah, you always,
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Speaker 1: every time someone serves you, you will notice their nails.
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Speaker 1: You're like, oh my God, I love your nails. And
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Speaker 1: it's genuine. They always have really nice nails. It is genuine,
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Speaker 1: but I also think it's, I do it because I
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Speaker 1: think it's a way to almost make someone's day. Like
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Speaker 1: I know that might sound a bit over the top,
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Speaker 1: but if I notice something, I think, oh, that's really cute.
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Speaker 1: I think, well, why not say it? Because sometimes those
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Speaker 1: comments can really bolster you up if you're having a
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Speaker 1: shit day. And again, it's also a good way to
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Speaker 1: strike up a conversation with someone and be friendly. Yeah, well,
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Speaker 1: Sky Wheatley is the same as you because she was
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Speaker 1: in Kmart. When a woman approached her saying, you're so pretty,
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Speaker 1: and she replied, you too, babe. Now, Sky told Lockie
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Speaker 1: she genuinely thought the woman was attractive when she walked
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Speaker 1: past her, so that's why she was so quick to
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Speaker 1: repay the compliment. However, this is what Lockie had to say.
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Speaker 4: I just think that when girls say that to other girls,
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Speaker 4: it's just like, I feel it's a bit fake.
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Speaker 5: I don't think it's quite genuine.
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Speaker 4: I think it's more like of a jealousy thing.
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Speaker 2: Oh, my gosh.
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Speaker 1: Do you know how many times I compliment strangers? I've
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Speaker 1: always been like that. I always compliment strangers.
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Speaker 2: I always say, you have nice eyes, you have a
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Speaker 2: beautiful smile.
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Speaker 1: Like, it's a nice thing to do. Oh, my God,
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Speaker 1: this man.
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Speaker 4: I just can't quite put my finger on it. I
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Speaker 4: really can't. But I just feel like... It would be
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Speaker 4: like one male going up to another male and saying, oh,
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Speaker 4: you're really hot, bro. You're really hot, bro. No, it's not.
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Speaker 1: It's completely different.
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Speaker 4: Why?
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Speaker 2: Because females and men are completely different.
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Speaker 1: I don't understand his point about it being a jealousy
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Speaker 1: thing because quite often I find if people are jealous,
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Speaker 1: it's human nature to... to then not bring forth the
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Speaker 1: great qualities about that person if anything you try and
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Speaker 1: drag them down. I think he's getting confused and I
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Speaker 1: think he thinks it's a bit like on Mean Girls,
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Speaker 1: the movie, you know, when they're like, I love your
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Speaker 1: bracelet and they're like, that's the fucking ugliest bracelet I've
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Speaker 1: ever seen. I think he thinks that they're fake compliments.
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Speaker 5: I don't know.
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Speaker 1: Are people doing that in the shops though or just
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Speaker 1: in public? Maybe it's fake compliments if it's to someone
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Speaker 1: you don't like in your life or someone you're not
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Speaker 1: friends with. I have another take on Lockie's point about
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Speaker 1: male compliments. Well, I agree. I've never heard two men
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Speaker 1: compliment each other at the shop by telling each other
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Speaker 1: they're hot. I do think men compliment each other in
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Speaker 1: other ways. So they might compliment them about their car
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Speaker 1: or their beard. Their beard is a big one. That's
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Speaker 1: the male equivalent of clothes. It'd be like, wow, look
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Speaker 1: at how lush that guy's beard is. Or that's very nicely,
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Speaker 1: I was going to say manicured. I don't know what
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Speaker 1: the correct word is. Or they'll be like, oh, you're
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Speaker 1: looking jacked. Like you've been in the gym. That's what
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Speaker 1: men will say to each other. So It's another form
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Speaker 1: of basically saying, oh, you look pretty. But it's an
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Speaker 1: interesting one with men too because men will absolutely rip
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Speaker 1: into each other and say the most awful things and
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Speaker 1: it's all under the guise of it being a bit
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Speaker 1: of a joke, whereas women would never make those comments.
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Speaker 1: They'd only do it behind other women's backs.
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Speaker 4: Yeah.
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Speaker 1: Which I don't know what's worse. So if there's one
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Speaker 1: more part of the TikTok I have to play you
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Speaker 1: that cracked me up, let's have a listen.
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Speaker 5: If both girls are pretty.
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Speaker 4: Why do they need to tell each other they're pretty?
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Speaker 2: Because it's just like.
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Speaker 4: When they already know it.
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Speaker 2: They don't, though.
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Speaker 1: Not all pretty girls know that they're pretty.
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Speaker 3: Lots of pretty girls are very insecure, like me.
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Speaker 4: I don't think I'm pretty. If you didn't think you
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Speaker 4: were pretty, you wouldn't be posting yourself 24-7 online.
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Speaker 1: I don't think I'm ugly, but I don't look in
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Speaker 1: the mirror and go, oh, you're so drop-dead gorgeous. I
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Speaker 1: look in the mirror and I pick at myself, and
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Speaker 1: that's what most women do. So it's uplifting, it's kind,
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Speaker 1: it's nice. I get what Sky is saying because often
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Speaker 1: you can assume that someone is up themselves or that
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Speaker 1: they're overly confident because they're putting themselves out there or
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Speaker 1: maybe they wear a lot of makeup, whatever it may be.
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Speaker 1: But quite often the person is having to go to
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Speaker 1: that extent to do themselves up or put themselves out
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Speaker 1: there because they are insecure and they want the validation. Well,
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Speaker 1: I think the moral of this story is continue to
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Speaker 1: pay people compliments.
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Speaker 5: Sweetheart, you won't let me pay for anything for the wedding,
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Speaker 5: so I've got to.
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Speaker 2: That was another question as well, who's paid for the wedding?
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Speaker 5: I've got the DJ, all right? Look, you lot can
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Speaker 5: go on Google, Google my wage. Yeah?
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Speaker 2: No, but if.
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Speaker 3: I was still on army wage, we'd have just scheduled
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Speaker 3: everything down.
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Speaker 5: No, no, yeah, we would have done it. It just
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Speaker 5: means that all the money I've saved up, would um
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Speaker 5: well would be gone a wedding which is what everyone
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Speaker 5: does yeah um whereas we're in a nice fortunate team
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Speaker 5: position where i'm still able to keep the most of
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Speaker 5: my savings.
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Speaker 2: Apart we've kind of done it off like percentage of earnings.
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Speaker 5: I guess i think that's probably what most people do.
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Speaker 3: Yeah 100 like we're not gonna go 50 50.
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Speaker 5: On something no i've got no problem or qualms with
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Speaker 5: the fact that you know you earn more money than
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Speaker 5: i do and we've got a combined why is it
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Speaker 5: such a.
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Speaker 3: Taboo topic i don't know it doesn't need to be
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Speaker 3: yeah like it doesn't need.
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Speaker 5: To hide what i am because you can google it
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Speaker 5: i was listening to.
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Speaker 3: An episode of um the yeah very true i was
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Speaker 3: listening to an episode of the girls bathroom and they
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Speaker 3: were talking loads about money and one of the questions
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Speaker 3: was like when you go on dates how like how
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Speaker 3: do you split a date and like the main thing
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Speaker 3: that people came back with was you sort of do
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Speaker 3: it on percentage of earnings Yeah. So like if someone
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Speaker 3: earns more, they'll get maybe two to like one dinner dates.
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Speaker 4: Yeah.
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Speaker 5: I've just seen a good question about divorced parents and
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Speaker 5: stuff and feeling tension.
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Speaker 1: UK influencer Zoe Haig has broken her YouTube silence after
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Speaker 1: her much anticipated wedding to partner Danny Ray. So Zoe
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Speaker 1: is the sister of Molly Mae Haig, and she explained
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Speaker 1: that her three-week radio silence from YouTube was due to
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Speaker 1: a family member ruining her SD card. So this SD
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Speaker 1: card contained vision of the lead up to her wedding,
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Speaker 1: which she was going to share. What an absolute nightmare.
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Speaker 1: Not only if you're a YouTuber, but just in general,
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Speaker 1: if you'd captured these important memories in the lead up
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Speaker 1: to your wedding and they'd been destroyed by someone. And
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Speaker 1: this SD card was destroyed in the most bizarre circumstances
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Speaker 1: because Zoe and her family were out on a boat
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Speaker 1: and one of the family members had a drone and
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Speaker 1: they were like, oh, I'd love to fly the drone
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Speaker 1: but I don't have an SD card. And Zoe had
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Speaker 1: a camera with her so she was like, oh, here,
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Speaker 1: you can borrow my SD card. And she made a
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Speaker 1: joke about do not lose this because it's really, really important.
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Speaker 1: So as they're going along in the boat, they start
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Speaker 1: up the drone. The drone falls into the water and
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Speaker 1: it destroys the SD card. Oh, my God. What an
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Speaker 1: absolute nightmare. Yeah. I always get nervous when people fly
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Speaker 1: drones and it is for this reason, because you can
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Speaker 1: never trust them. Like they get out of your eyesight,
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Speaker 1: they can fall into water. Like it's just, yeah, there's
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Speaker 1: a lot going on when you fly a drone. I've
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Speaker 1: flown them before and it is quite scary. Now, a
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Speaker 1: few people have messaged us saying, please talk about Zoe's wedding.
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Speaker 1: And we are talking about it now because Zoe and
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Speaker 1: Danny have finally released a few more details about this wedding.
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Speaker 1: This wedding was getting a lot of press in the
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Speaker 1: UK when it happened a few weeks ago. It was
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Speaker 1: all over my TikTok feed and I was dying to
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Speaker 1: find out more details about the wedding. I found it
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Speaker 1: quite surprising all of the media coverage because Zoe is
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Speaker 1: known as being the more down-to-earth sister. So she used
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Speaker 1: to work in the army and it's only been over
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Speaker 1: the last year or so that she's focused on her
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Speaker 1: social media career. So it was a bit of a
17:31
Speaker 1: shock to a lot of her followers when everyone saw
17:33
Speaker 1: the paparazzi rock up. I wasn't surprised because my understanding
17:38
Speaker 1: is they weren't really there for Zoe. They were there
17:40
Speaker 1: for Molly because Molly will sneeze and the media will
17:44
Speaker 1: report on it. Like they are obsessed with her. She
17:46
Speaker 1: is the UK's biggest influencer. Yeah, you're definitely right. But
17:49
Speaker 1: I think it has also grown Zoe and Dani's profile.
17:53
Speaker 1: And there are reports that searches for Lakes District's weddings,
17:56
Speaker 1: which they had, has skyrocketed after their big day with
18:00
Speaker 1: searches up by 1,314%. As Australians, we're so lucky having
18:06
Speaker 1: our weddings outside because most of the time people will
18:08
Speaker 1: have an outdoor ceremony and it'll be beautiful weather. However,
18:12
Speaker 1: I was talking to an English couple who flew over
18:14
Speaker 1: for my sister-in-law's wedding and it was held in the
18:18
Speaker 1: botanical gardens and they were just saying like, we cannot
18:20
Speaker 1: get over this wedding. Like no one has their weddings outside.
18:24
Speaker 1: We're all stuck in these you know, awful little chapels
18:28
Speaker 1: or buildings or whatever. Because of the weather and everything.
18:30
Speaker 1: Because the weather's always so shit. But for Zoe, they
18:33
Speaker 1: had their wedding outside in this beautiful garden setting, as
18:36
Speaker 1: you say, at the Lake Districts. Luckily, they missed a
18:40
Speaker 1: sprinkle of rain. Like it was perfect weather for them.
18:43
Speaker 1: And her partner looked like Prince Charming because he was
18:45
Speaker 1: dressed in Some sort of soldier outfit. Everyone was saying
18:48
Speaker 1: he looked like he was part of the royal family. Yeah,
18:50
Speaker 1: because he's still serving in the army, but apparently they
18:53
Speaker 1: got a lot of people saying, why is he dressed
18:55
Speaker 1: up like Prince Charles? Is he pretending to be royal?
18:58
Speaker 1: I liked it. I was like, God, I wish Brandon
19:00
Speaker 1: could have worn something like that. There's something hot about
19:02
Speaker 1: that uniform. There definitely is. And there has been a
19:05
Speaker 1: lot of interest into how much they spent on their
19:08
Speaker 1: wedding because The Sun in the UK reported that they
19:12
Speaker 1: dropped 200,000 pounds on the day after But Zoe and
19:15
Speaker 1: Dani were quick to hose down these reports. So they
19:18
Speaker 1: told their YouTube followers that their wedding actually cost between
19:21
Speaker 1: £ 40, 000 to £ 50, 000. Zoe also revealed, and this really surprised me,
19:27
Speaker 1: that her dress cost £ 2, 000. So that was her ceremony dress.
19:31
Speaker 1: And she also had an $ 800 reception dress. Let's throw
19:35
Speaker 1: to what she said about it.
19:36
Speaker 3: But I got it from a shop near us called
19:40
Speaker 3: the Knutsford Wedding Gallery.
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Speaker 2: It was a designer called Milanova. And it was.
19:45
Speaker 4: Sorry.
19:45
Speaker 3: £ 800, which is quite expensive for a second dress, but
19:49
Speaker 3: I thought because my first dress was only £ 2, 000, two
19:51
Speaker 3: dresses together being less than £ 3, 000, that's less than what people.
19:57
Speaker 2: Spend for like one full dress.
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Speaker 5: Smashed it, didn't you?
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Speaker 1: We've got to remember that is pounds, but I was
20:03
Speaker 1: astounded that that's all she spent, particularly when we see
20:06
Speaker 1: Molly May, her sister, living quite large. I mean, I
20:10
Speaker 1: don't think Molly could barely lift her bloody hand. Her
20:12
Speaker 1: ring is that enormous. And I'm sure that her wedding
20:15
Speaker 1: dress is going to be some custom made couture gown
20:20
Speaker 1: that's tens of thousands of pounds. Zoe said that she
20:24
Speaker 1: got Molly to actually pick out the bridesmaids dresses and
20:27
Speaker 1: she opted for some couture gowns. Oh, I think that's
20:31
Speaker 1: almost a bit unfair that the bridesmaids potentially had more
20:33
Speaker 1: expensive dresses. Well, she didn't say whether they were more expensive,
20:37
Speaker 1: but she just basically said, oh, I couldn't be bothered.
20:40
Speaker 1: So I just left it up to Molly and I
20:41
Speaker 1: really liked the dresses that she chose in the end.
20:43
Speaker 1: Do we think that Molly foot the bill for those then?
20:46
Speaker 2: I'm not sure.
20:47
Speaker 1: They didn't touch on that, but they have been really open,
20:50
Speaker 1: as I said, about talking about their budget, which I
20:53
Speaker 1: have found really fascinating because before they got married, Zoe
20:57
Speaker 1: and Danny were did a Q & A and they
20:59
Speaker 1: were asked about how they divided up the costs. Let's
21:02
Speaker 1: have a listen to what they said.
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Speaker 5: Sweetheart, you won't let me pay for anything for the wedding,
21:07
Speaker 5: so I've got to.
21:08
Speaker 2: That was another question as well, who's paid for the wedding?
21:11
Speaker 5: I've got the DJ, all right? Look, you lot can
21:19
Speaker 5: go on Google, Google my wage.
21:21
Speaker 1: Yeah.
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Speaker 4: Yeah.
21:23
Speaker 3: No, but if I was still on army wage, we'd
21:27
Speaker 3: have just scheduled everything down.
21:28
Speaker 5: No, no, yeah, we would have done it. It just
21:30
Speaker 5: means that all the money I've saved up would be
21:35
Speaker 5: gone on a wedding, which is what everyone does. Yeah.
21:39
Speaker 5: Whereas we're in a nice, fortunate team position where I'm
21:43
Speaker 5: still able to keep the most of my savings.
21:45
Speaker 2: We've kind of done it off percentage of earnings.
21:47
Speaker 4: I guess.
21:48
Speaker 5: I think that's probably what most people do.
21:49
Speaker 2: Yeah, 100%.
21:50
Speaker 5: We're not going to go 50-50 on something. No, I've
21:53
Speaker 5: got no problem or qualms with the fact that, you know,
21:56
Speaker 5: you earn more money than I do. And we've got
21:59
Speaker 5: a combined household.
22:00
Speaker 2: Why is it such a taboo topic?
22:02
Speaker 5: I don't know.
22:02
Speaker 2: It doesn't need to be.
22:03
Speaker 5: Yeah, like I need to hide what I am because
22:06
Speaker 5: you can Google it.
22:08
Speaker 1: This is why everyone is falling in love with this couple,
22:10
Speaker 1: because they're not shying away from awkward questions about money.
22:14
Speaker 1: They're happy to address it. And clearly Danny feels secure
22:17
Speaker 1: enough and comfortable enough to say, Yeah, Zoe did pay
22:21
Speaker 1: for the majority of it, but I really wanted to
22:23
Speaker 1: help as much as I could. And yes, I don't
22:25
Speaker 1: earn as much money as her because in the past,
22:27
Speaker 1: a lot of men would hold shame about the fact
22:30
Speaker 1: that their partner earns more than them, but he seems
22:33
Speaker 1: to be very proud about that. And they just seem
22:35
Speaker 1: so cute together. Well, I think the reason that Zoe
22:39
Speaker 1: is becoming so popular too is because she's always going
22:42
Speaker 1: to be the more relatable one than Molly Mae.
22:44
Speaker 2: Yeah.
22:44
Speaker 1: Like she's probably the person that you'd go to to think, oh, okay,
22:48
Speaker 1: what's her affordable outfit? She looks good.
22:50
Speaker 4: Yeah.
22:50
Speaker 1: It's going to be within my budget. Whereas with Molly Mae, yeah,
22:53
Speaker 1: she's great for outfit inspo, but you know you're not
22:55
Speaker 1: going to be able to afford anything that she's wearing.
22:57
Speaker 1: I mean, I enjoy following them both. They don't need
22:59
Speaker 1: to be pitted against each other. They're great, but it'd
23:02
Speaker 1: be really interesting to look at their demographics.
23:05
Speaker 4: Yeah.
23:05
Speaker 1: What their sell is. rate is? Well, in a recent vlog,
23:09
Speaker 1: Molly was saying that Zoe had actually sold more of
23:13
Speaker 1: something than her. That's how strong her audience is. Let's
23:17
Speaker 1: kick off our new segment called Agony Sisters. It's a
23:21
Speaker 1: play on agony aunts. Maybe we should have been the
23:23
Speaker 1: agony aunties because we're new aunties, but we thought sisters
23:25
Speaker 1: was more fun.
23:26
Speaker 4: Yeah.
23:26
Speaker 1: We thought a lot of our followers might not have
23:29
Speaker 1: sisters that they want to ask for advice from. And
23:31
Speaker 1: you always get honest advice from sisters, even if sometimes
23:35
Speaker 1: you don't want it to be so honest. We do
23:37
Speaker 1: have a mailbox. You put up a Q & A.
23:39
Speaker 1: But if this is something we're hopefully going to be
23:42
Speaker 1: doing every Friday, so send us in a DM what
23:46
Speaker 1: your issue is. It can be about anything, but the
23:48
Speaker 1: DMs are a good space because they're a bit longer
23:50
Speaker 1: so you can give us more detail. And we will
23:52
Speaker 1: keep you 100% anonymous. So one of our listeners has asked,
23:56
Speaker 1: what to do when your best friend doesn't make time
23:59
Speaker 1: for you slash only when she wants something? The difference
24:03
Speaker 1: with best friends and sisters is... you often have to
24:09
Speaker 1: be more thoughtful when approaching an issue with a best friend.
24:13
Speaker 1: Because they're not a family member, you have to really
24:16
Speaker 1: think about what you're going to say. You don't want
24:18
Speaker 1: to offend anyone. I know there are some best friends
24:20
Speaker 1: who can say anything to one another. So it's a
24:23
Speaker 1: really difficult one because you've got to think about, does
24:27
Speaker 1: my best friend have something big going on in her life?
24:29
Speaker 1: So is she busy because she's got a new partner?
24:32
Speaker 1: Is she busy because She's got a lot of pressures
24:34
Speaker 1: at work. Or is it because she is trying to
24:37
Speaker 1: freeze me out? I think you've got to talk to
24:39
Speaker 1: her about it and approach it in a non-confrontational, non-aggressive
24:45
Speaker 1: way because she might get a backup about it. If
24:48
Speaker 1: she's your best friend, you should be in a position
24:51
Speaker 1: where you can tell her that you feel like she's
24:53
Speaker 1: not making time for you. It's difficult because when people
24:57
Speaker 1: get older and maybe they get a long-term partner or
25:00
Speaker 1: work gets really busy and Sometimes it's hard fitting everyone in. See,
25:05
Speaker 1: I think it would be difficult to say to your
25:07
Speaker 1: best friend, oh, you're not making time for me because
25:09
Speaker 1: I feel like that could spark an argument. I would
25:12
Speaker 1: almost do some little tests to see if they were
25:15
Speaker 1: genuinely busy. Like there might be genuine reasons why your
25:19
Speaker 1: best friend can't see you. Maybe you need to start
25:21
Speaker 1: making a big effort. Like it sounds like you're already
25:24
Speaker 1: making an effort, but maybe you just need to go, hey,
25:28
Speaker 1: let's go out for dinner. Like we really need to
25:30
Speaker 1: catch up. I feel like I haven't seen you. I
25:32
Speaker 1: really miss you. I think it's really important to set
25:35
Speaker 1: regular catch-ups with people in your life that are important
25:38
Speaker 1: to see like a best friend. For instance, we see
25:41
Speaker 1: our best friend at least once a week. So we
25:44
Speaker 1: will make time. We know that there's going to be
25:46
Speaker 1: some sort of lunch, dinner or house catch-up. Same with
25:50
Speaker 1: our cousins who are classified as my best friends. We
25:52
Speaker 1: see them every week. It's just With a best friend,
25:55
Speaker 1: it just should be implied that there's going to be
25:57
Speaker 1: regular catch-ups. And that's probably why you're feeling a bit
25:59
Speaker 1: upset because maybe these catch-ups are starting to dwindle and
26:03
Speaker 1: you're not seeing each other as much and you're becoming
26:05
Speaker 1: disconnected in one another's lives. And she might want to
26:09
Speaker 1: see you. It might be that she's so genuinely busy
26:12
Speaker 1: or maybe she's bogged down in this new relationship and
26:15
Speaker 1: she feels like she doesn't have the time to see
26:17
Speaker 1: you Which is shit as a friend to be on
26:20
Speaker 1: the receiving end of that. Always got to make time
26:22
Speaker 1: for your friends. It's one thing that's really important, even
26:24
Speaker 1: if you're in a new relationship, because those relationships can
26:28
Speaker 1: end and then you're left potentially with no friends. My
26:31
Speaker 1: suggestion would be to reach out to her again, try
26:35
Speaker 1: and see if you can catch up for dinner or
26:37
Speaker 1: something that's face to face and get a feel for
26:40
Speaker 1: what's going on in her life. If there are some
26:42
Speaker 1: big events or moments going on that are keeping her
26:45
Speaker 1: really busy, And just say something like, I really miss you.
26:49
Speaker 1: Can we catch up more? I feel a bit sad
26:52
Speaker 1: that we haven't been catching up regularly. Because if you're
26:54
Speaker 1: saying you're sad and you miss someone, they can't really
26:56
Speaker 1: get mad at you. I have heard of this happening
26:58
Speaker 1: quite a bit. When people get into their 30s, sometimes
27:01
Speaker 1: their best friend goes haywire. They just act a different way.
27:06
Speaker 1: And sometimes they almost need to be called out or
27:08
Speaker 1: the friendship needs to end because it's not healthy. There's
27:11
Speaker 1: some people who outgrow certain friends.
27:14
Speaker 4: Yeah.
27:15
Speaker 2: Or you just.
27:16
Speaker 1: It becomes toxic. Yeah, it does become toxic. And you
27:20
Speaker 1: need to decide if you're willing to put up with
27:21
Speaker 1: that behavior because a good friend will reach out. A
27:25
Speaker 1: good friend will make time to see you. It's not
27:28
Speaker 1: that difficult to pick up your phone in this day
27:31
Speaker 1: and age and have a conversation. Yeah. So yeah, you've
27:34
Speaker 1: got to weigh up. Obviously, it's very difficult because we're
27:36
Speaker 1: only reading a small message here, but you have to
27:38
Speaker 1: weigh up whether the way they're treating you, whether you're
27:40
Speaker 1: happy for that to continue, or if you just need
27:43
Speaker 1: to broach the topic, maybe firstly in a sensitive way
27:46
Speaker 1: and see how it goes from there. Well, good luck
27:48
Speaker 1: with it all. We hope it does work out. If
27:50
Speaker 1: you have a question for the Agony Sisters, just send
27:53
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