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4 - The Dishes Are Done, Man (Is there a correct way to load the dishwasher?) · Arguing Ever After

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Hello listeners and welcome to Arguing Ever After.
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I'm Luke and this is my wife Amber.
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We are the Lord and Lady who lock horns.
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The count and Countess of contention.
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The Duke and Duchess of Disagreement.
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And the king and queen of quarrels.
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We have been together since Justin and Brittany were still a
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couple. We have argued about practically
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everything, and yet we've outlasted them.
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We have a great teenager whose friends don't even think we're
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all that lame, and most of our families still like us.
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In this entertainment only podcast, we will bicker about
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all things big and small and the audience gets the final say on
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who the winner is. We don't claim to be
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relationship experts by any means.
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We will debate lots of things, many of which are frequently
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submitted by our listeners. So if you have a topic you want
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us non professionals to battle over before you try it at home,
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please send it to us at arguinguporafter@gmail.com.
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Perhaps this completely unscientific method of letting
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the masses decide who is right can settle your fight before you
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even have it. So here we go.
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Yes, this is our very 4th episode folks.
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We are so excited that we have made it to this major milestone
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in podcasting. Which it really is a major
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milestone. Yes.
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There's been some research which suggests that most podcasts
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don't make it past the 3rd episode.
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So we're in the top 50% folks already of being a podcast.
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So go us. That's awesome.
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And a lot of that is because we have a few listeners.
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And a couple people that are followers.
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I don't know what the difference is, but we're excited about all
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of it. We're very excited about it.
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As a matter of fact, we have a couple special shout outs.
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The first one is to our 25th follower, who knows who they
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are. Thank you so much.
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It was awesome. And the feedback we've been
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getting from like, surprisingly, people who aren't as old as we
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are, like the youth, the youths, the youths.
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The youths. Like, you know, I mean, they've
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been really engaged in it. And so it's pretty awesome.
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As a matter of fact, while we've been working through how to run
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this podcast because we don't know, we're like we said
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everywhere, non professional, we've done like maybe 2 minutes
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of research. We were, we've been trying to
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decide what our flow is. And one special sleuth listener
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named Aurora realized that we are dropping our episodes on
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Tuesdays. So way to go.
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Thank you so much for being a loyal listener and we hope to
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keep up that for you. So we've been really enjoying
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our engagement. Indeed, and not that I'll try to
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get too off topic every once in a while, I'm going to.
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I'm gonna have to resist a lot every once in a while.
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I can't help it. This being Episode 4, I just
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need to reference that that was one of the finest movies ever
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made, Star Wars A New Hope. Oh my gosh, Episode we have
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needs to come up with the Star Wars thing.
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I feel like it's. So far, I just needed to throw
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that in there and carrying on, that's not what we're talking
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about today. Today we're talking about
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something totally unrelated. Completely unrelated.
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And we also one of the things we asked for, like we did at the
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top of our episode is for listeners to submit ideas.
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We do have our own list, but we want to know what you all want
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to hear. And a listener gave us very a
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very timely topic. And so I'm really excited about
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that because, well, the other day we did have some issues.
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This. This is about dishes, people.
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Everyone's got dishes, and I would be willing to bet that
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every couple that exists and every parent child relationship
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that's ever existed had a dishes argument at some point.
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And we were, when we got together and moved into our
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first house, we were very fortunate in our first house
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that we lived in for like, you know, a minute, it had a
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dishwasher. And the apartments that we.
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Rented. Oh, the apartments too.
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Yeah, we must have lived in some luxury living spaces.
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To have apartments, just know that like if you don't provide a
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dishwasher, it's going to be a problem.
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Yeah, you'll have people with disgusting dishes, dirty dishes
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everywhere. Like we had.
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Sometimes, I guess, I mean you have roommates and one of you
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might know. Dog and the roommates.
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Boom. But definitely we we don't, we
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don't allow that anymore. But for a long time we lived in
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a house that didn't have a dishwasher.
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So anyone out there hand washing dishes because you have to, not
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because you feel like you want to and we feel you 13 years we
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lived that life. It was rough, it was rough, but
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it did teach us that we like well, taught me that an empty
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sink means I don't need to stress anymore.
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So I'm really always like, that's always my main thing is
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let's get the dishes into the dishwasher.
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But washing by hand, my dishes were always the cleanest, right?
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And that's, that's kind of an like I, it's a trade off, right?
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Like if I wash by hand or maybe I have to throw 7 dishes back in
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the dishwasher, I'll throw 7 dishes back in the dishwasher
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for sure. But I was watching this thing
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on, I don't know, one of the, one of the TV, not TV, one of
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the Internet streaming things. And there was this, this thing
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about what Americans do. And really it's actually I did,
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I did a little bit of research that they don't do in certain
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parts of the world. And did you know that in some
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parts of the world, and you can look it up, they wash their dish
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with the soap and put it in the drying rack.
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No rinsing whatsoever. Why would you do that?
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It would taste like soap. Well, that's what I thought too,
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but clearly if it if it like this is a very common practice,
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it can't taste that much like soap.
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We've been lied to. I don't, I don't, I don't hold
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with that because I've had dishes that didn't taste rinsed
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even out of the dishwasher. That's like on hot water blast
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for who knows how long. I still every once in awhile
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think I taste soap in a glass. I'm like, oh, I got to put it
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back through. It's mind blowing, isn't it, to
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think that there's people who does that.
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OK, so one day we might have a listener from one of these
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places. So I'm not insulting you.
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I'm just like, wow, like that's wonderful that you're not using
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it. But they're parts of the UK and
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the Dutch and maybe not all of them.
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I'm promising you it's not all of them, but if you're
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interested in the fact that this is the thing that actually
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happens, I mean, I was certain when I we.
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Should reach out to our friend who lived in the Netherlands.
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Yeah, well, ask her. Yeah, absolutely.
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And see what she thinks now. I was thinking though, I mean,
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that's a great trick to just not have to do that.
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I'm kind of on board. If we ever don't have a
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dishwasher again I I might try it because I was always told
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that if you didn't rinse the soap off a it's going to taste
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like soap but more importantly you're going to get sick and
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that's clearly not a case. Maybe.
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Like we'll we'll soap after taste with their food.
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You know, they might be used to it.
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They might be used to it. They also might be.
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I did think maybe they're using different soap, but everything I
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could do in my very extensive research did not say that their
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soaps were any different. You'd tell me you went to like
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Wikipedia or? No, I didn't do that.
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I didn't do that. That's deep research.
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There, that's deep. No, no, no, no.
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I was just like I did actually type in my Google search soap
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used, you know, ingredients in the soap and all that.
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But I'm. Coming into this with no
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research. I know I really, I really
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studied up for you all. We are giving you the best
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knowledge of two minutes of quick Internet searching and I
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just was blown away. And anyone who's listening, who
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maybe has been told that they have to rinse.
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I don't do it everywhere so. Don't tell your parents that we
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said it. Yeah, yeah.
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Or your spouses. Or.
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Yeah, it's not coming. From anybody really not coming
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from we're not giving advice about how to do dishes or rinse
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them. We are not professionals in that
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either. Not at all.
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But you were talking about funny taste.
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And actually right before this, I grabbed my water bottle and I
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took a drink out of it and I was like, oh, that water is bad.
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And I mean, I think we all know that there's bad water, right?
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That if it sits out for too long, it becomes undrinkable.
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But nothing changed in it, right?
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Like it's in a sealed container. It wasn't sitting for so long
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that there would be any mold. But like, I just couldn't.
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I'm like, oh, oh, can't drink it.
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It was awful. It was disgusting.
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And so, you know, that's the stuff you feed to your plants or
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just throw down the drain. But how does water go bad?
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I don't even know. I mean, I guess technically if
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it doesn't move, doesn't it always kind of go bad?
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I don't know, but that sounds like a scientist job to tell us
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we have any scientists out there.
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Put it in the comments for us and we'll probably read them.
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I got a favorite quote from like a old Greek guy that said
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something like the mixture which is not shaken decomposes deep.
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Maybe he knows. Deep, Very deep for you all.
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I try to keep it. Who is that thought provoking?
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Around here, OK, but now are we going to be educational?
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Who said it? I'm not going to pronounce it
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right because I don't speak ancient Greek, but Heraclitus.
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Oh, OK, I'll trust you. I have no idea.
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Or Heraclitus. Sorry, put you on the spot, I
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realized after I said. That there's any Greek people
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out there, I apologize. Yeah.
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We're just defending people left and right to.
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Trying to, I mean, we, we don't have many international
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listeners yet and they might one day join.
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We have one that's really, really fun.
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So shout out to Germany. And I don't know, we've really,
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like I said earlier, though, we've been kind of blown away by
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the support. So it's been fun to see where
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people come from who are listening and getting into this.
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But we were, we were talking about dishes.
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We were talking about the the dishwashing and the soap and all
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of that. And one of the things, though,
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where this really came from, when this listener had told us
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about this topic, why it was so timely, was because less than
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two hours beforehand, Luke lost his mind.
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He opened the dishwasher, took one look and said Nope, walked
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away. Angry.
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I did. I think I actually said Nope,
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I'm out. How do you people live like
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this? Yes.
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So I mean, can you explain why you were so upset about looking
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in a dishwasher? I certainly can.
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And let me just say this comes from a place of my very, very
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deep past because I grew up with no dishwashers that we used in
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my houses. My mom and my dad, they didn't
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have a dishwasher. The dishwasher was me and my
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brothers. That's who the dishwasher was.
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So it was always like trying to do everything in a confined
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space, the sink and you had, you know, like, I mean, everyone has
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a dish rack that has no dishwasher and they're little.
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So you got to fit everything all just right.
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Because if you don't, where are you going to put your stuff?
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You put it on the counter on top of towels.
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Well, sure, but there's only so much counter space when you got
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a family anyways. So part of part of my desire to
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have things in the dishwasher in a certain way probably come
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somewhat from that. And it is my belief that the
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dishwasher's primary function is to be full and clean the dishes
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and that that's the only way to do it.
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So we had a bunch of talks about like what the right way or wrong
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way might be. And I think we've fairly solidly
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determined that we disagree in what that might look like.
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And it doesn't surprise me because I happen to be a tidier
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of things in general. Now you're going to have a
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counter for that, but. I mean.
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But I like to straighten things out and put them in little
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stacks, and somehow that helps things make sense to me.
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So I think the dishes are also a byproduct of that sort of
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thinking. Well, I think that the
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dishwasher tells you how to put things into it, right?
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I mean, we again fortunate enough to have one, that
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silverware tray thing, it tells you essentially that your things
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only going to fit certain ways. So as long as you're within the
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ways that it tells you can fit, you know, you're fine.
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That was not OK for Luke. Not the silver.
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I don't even know if he looked at the silverware thing, but,
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you know, he just looked and said, this is not organized in
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the way I think it should be organized.
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And I just, I, I couldn't believe how instantly triggered
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he was by just opening it up and it not being the way that he
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thinks it should be. Now, we do have a total of three
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people in our house who are putting dishes in the
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dishwasher. I'm just grateful when they go
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into the dishwasher and not into the sink.
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So if you can fit it, it's good. That's all it needs to be done.
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Fit it without, like overlapping.
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I'm good with that, you know. That's a fairpoint you make
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about getting them into the dishwasher, yes.
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That's why is that so hard? That's a struggle in life to put
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them in the dip for some people. Yes, in our household there is
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at least one who has that issue. But then the other really
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important part of a dishwasher that I will say is my pet peeve
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is the fact that once it's done, you know what happens.
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They got to get put. Away they do.
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They have to be put away. However, in my household, it's
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like everyone pretends like they can't see that the dishes are
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clean. And when I say everyone, I mean
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everyone but me. And they'll be sitting there and
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I'll know in the morning because I like to wash my dishes at
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night. So in the morning we have all
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the clean dishes that we need. But somehow in the, in the time
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frame when people get up, have their breakfast early and all of
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that, they never look to see if the dishwasher that has ran
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every single night is possibly clean.
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Nope, they don't. They throw it in the sink.
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And now this is all but me because I again, like I said,
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don't like seeing dirty dishes in the sink.
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So now in the summer, we tried summer.
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Gosh, this sounds awful. But like in the summer, we try
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to make sure our kid does chores.
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And so I, so I try to wait until, you know, she's up to and
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empty it out. But Oh my God, it's so hard.
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Like just knowing that there's dishes in there and they're not
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put away and just waiting for her to wake up to do that.
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And every time I walk by, I see that light and it just, it just
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grates on me. I'm like, how, how are we doing
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this? But when it's not that time, you
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know, of course I know that my husband's already left for the
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day. Chances are knowing I know he
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had breakfast and he knew because he does not put dirty
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dishes into the sink if there's the dishwasher is not clean.
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So he's purposefully made a choice to not empty the
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dishwasher and wait for me to do it, which is a little.
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Doesn't necessarily mean that I'm waiting for you to do it.
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That's just how you're taking it.
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I will say this, I don't have a whole lot of free time in the
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morning because I have a lot to do and I have a long commute so
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I'm not like I'm almost never early to work.
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I'm never early to work. That's fine, you just happen to
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work from home so it might annoy you more because you see it
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more. So like if you just waited, I'll
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probably put them away when I got home.
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But it never gets that far because I think you've decided
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that it's time for them to get put away, which is fair, but I
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don't have the extra 3 to 5 minutes that it takes to put
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away the dishes. 3 to 5 minutes. No joke.
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That is not that. I make hard choices in the
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morning. It's not that long.
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It's not. Sometimes the choice is do I
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have time to eat? Sometimes I don't.
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Well, I think that that's a a simple thing.
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And I'm sure that there are other people out there who feel
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the the pain of knowing that people have seen that there are
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clean dishes and they've just ignored them, let them sit there
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until another time. And that is unfair.
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The real truth is the one person in this house with the most free
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time should be the one putting that stuff away, and it's not
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you and it's not me. Well, OK, I mean when.
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Even when school is on, she's only in school from like 7:00 to
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2:00 or something like that. Ain't even full time.
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Let's go put her to work. I mean, we do, we try to, you
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know, However, there's also the things that how things get put
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away and, and being having things get put into the right
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spot is. Oh, you don't like that?
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I don't like when things are. Like the mystery of where is
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that one spoon that I was looking for just today, Just
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today. I'm like, you literally pulled
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this out of this drawer and yet you chose to put it into another
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drawer. Who does that?
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Our child does. It's so easy to put it back
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where it should go from where you pulled it from.
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But the other thing too is like the the it's people putting pots
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and pans. Oh, another thing, some people
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won't wash their pots and pans in the dishwasher.
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That's true. And I remember when I was young,
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we had to wash all of our pots and pans by hand.
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And I just have decided I'm not doing any of that work.
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I mean again if my sometimes. You need to though if it's like
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cheese or something like there's some stuff.
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Off so easy in the dishwasher. Well, some stuff we still do by.
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Hand very no. My rule is if I can't fit it in
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the dishwasher then I'd do it by hand.
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Otherwise I throw it in there. So we should get rid of that one
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cookie. Shake no.
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We need that. It's I hate it.
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We absolutely need it. It's so big.
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No, it's not that big. I mean, it's big, but it needs
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to be big for its job. We have another one that's even
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larger and you have no problem with that one.
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It's because. That one has the right covering
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on it, the nonstick, which is great for making all kinds of
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cookies. Yes.
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I love cookies. It's like a double batch cookie
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sheet, you know, more like industrial size cookie sheets.
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So the other thing people won't put in there and I've I've been
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told the problem I have is because I put them into the
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dishwasher is knives like actual.
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Oh yeah, the knife sharpening folks tell you that that the
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dishwasher heat makes them dull or something like.
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Yeah, I mean. Maybe it's the water, maybe it's
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both. I don't actually.
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I don't know. We have dull knives frequently,
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but I am not willing to sacrifice the time it takes to
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wash them by hand. See, you're making choices too 3
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to 5 minutes. I'm just saying.
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Well, I never see you wash knives so.
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I made that same sacrifice. Yes, yes, But we definitely have
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our own things about it. And it's, it's amazing how
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different, you know, when we were washing by hand, like I
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said earlier, how, how clean the dishes got, but they also didn't
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get all the weird little Nicks and stuff and all that that
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happens on dishes. Our dishes we have right now are
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sold that they're really badly in need of replacements.
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For the listener, just just to clear the air, she's talking
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about our dishes like plates, bowls, yes, small plates,
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glasses, because she gave me this dirty look.
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If you're not watching, we should start explaining to the
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people. The eyeballs that I got were hot
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fire because we've had the same dishes since before we got
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married, which was. We've had the same dishes in
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1999. I don't know when something
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becomes an antique, but I'm pretty sure we're about there.
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If it was a car, I think it could get collector.
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Plates, right, collector plates. But Luke will not hop on board
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getting new plates and. Because they still are a plate,
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so it serves the plate function of being plate like.
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OK. But the bowls also serve the
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bowl function. We've had several bowls break.
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The plates will not break. I will tell you if you want a
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break a plate that will never ever break to save yourself
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money for the absolute rest of your life, perfect.
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Get Corel abundance pattern and you will never need to buy a new
22:25
plate again. You're going to want.
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To I'm just going to plug our future sponsors, Corel don't
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send us more of those because she'll hate.
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I want a different design, just something else, just.
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Want to put. That I'm not.
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I won't buy Corel because your stuff doesn't freaking break she
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wants. It to break so she.
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Can I would like something new? I've talked about this with
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friends and they they've said that I should be able to get
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some new plates. We had a friend come over to our
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house who is not that much younger than us, and he looked
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at me. He's like, Oh, my mom used to
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have your plates. That's how old they are.
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Yeah. His mom used to have those
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plates and. She had great taste.
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Yeah, and they were they. There's just.
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I mean, you did. I did 20.
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Five years ago. 25 years ago and it's OK after 25 years to get
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something. New I mean, I think you say this
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like I got you under lock and key.
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I don't I mean, I don't like you have a job.
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You could technically buy it. I just think that it's a silly.
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Expense now when? We have functional plates.
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This is been recorded, it is enshrined.
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It's that I now have proof that I can get dishes that I want.
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Without one of our other topics in the future is when do you
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need to consult your spouse at what dollar amount and and make
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that part of the discussion. So totally fine.
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But I imagine a series of plates the the length of which we have,
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which is like a lot of plates and bowls we have people over.
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We would have an expense that would be worthy of the
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discussion. So that's all I'm saying.
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OK, but I'm saying I have proof that when when I get those.
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I'm willing to have that discussion.
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You're willing to. That's right.
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OK, OK. Yes, that's amazing.
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Very, very good of you. This chivalry is just oozing.
24:21
Oh, it is. So, Luke, let me ask you a
24:24
question. Oh, and now the moment you've
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all been waiting for in this corner, we have Amber claiming
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to weigh in at 135 lbs. Yeah.
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And with now a record of two wins and one loss.
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Because I won the last episode, people, that's what I'm talking
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about. Let's make it 2.
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Maybe this episode. She has over 25 years of
24:54
practice in the art of insignificant lover spats,
24:56
including plate wear. And she is armed with her
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amazing hair, which she will need today.
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Amazing hair. It's so amazing.
25:06
OK, look at it. In this corner we have Luke at
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his prime weight of 150. Oh yeah, 150 when I was 10.
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No 185 lbs and sporting a luxurious red beard.
25:20
Which I've recently trimmed. He's been arguing since he was
25:23
born to his very competitive family and Luke has finally
25:28
achieved one win. But don't forget you got 2
25:32
losses. So tell us Luke, what do you
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really think is the right way to load a dishwasher?
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And is there a right way to load a dishwasher?
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Well, OK. And yes, I believe there is a
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right way to load the dishwasher.
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Now. We'll start with some of the
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Givens. I think this would hold across
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all people who have dishwashers that you got to put the
26:08
silverware in, the little thing the silverware goes in.
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I think everyone's going to agree on that.
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There's also on the, well, most of them it's I've only ever seen
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it on the bottom. Maybe there's some that got it
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on the top. The plates have their little
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section where you put the plates in and they go all side by side.
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And I think those are maybe maybe the only two Givens, but
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those are for sure Givens. I think across the spectrum of
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dishwashers, no, there's. Mostly.
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Other stuff that like has always been the way for me, like in
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places where we have had a dishwasher or where I've seen
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them used, Generally speaking, it seems like if there's a
26:48
cookie sheet that fits because we talked about the giant cookie
26:52
sheets we have that don't fit. But if there's a cookie sheet
26:54
that fits, you put that on the left side up against the
26:58
dishwasher wall on the bottom rack, generally speaking.
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And then there's all kinds of different like dishwasher
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specialty things that have come out lately that I don't really
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fully understand or jive with. But like my mom says, a like a
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tray above the upper tray that's for like, I think it's like
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knives and long things. I don't really understand If we
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don't have that, we have a like little super jets in the top,
27:24
the top rack on the right side, which I don't know what those
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are for. They're for cups.
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They're for cups, OK, There's only four of them.
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So that's ridiculous because like we have more than four.
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I mean, who doesn't anyways? So outside of specialty
27:38
dishwasher things and the Gibbons, which I think maybe are
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across the board, my general answer to how to load a
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dishwasher is first, it should be all the way full.
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And what that means is for me, if I've got like our dishwasher
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holds about 3 bowls lengthwise on the top rack and has like
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234, it has like 5 across. So you could fit technically
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like 15 bowls. So if I were to open the top
28:12
rack of the dishwasher like I did last Saturday and see like 4
28:19
bowls haphazardly occupying the entirety of somehow 4 entire
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rows of the top rack, and then see our child put another one on
28:31
top of the other bowls themselves, that would be cause
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for concern in my way to properly load a dishwasher.
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I would line them up and stack them so that I had more room to
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put in future dishes. And then the the rest of it,
28:46
sort of like a like a advanced Tetris match.
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It's can I put all of the pots and the pans and the plates and
28:53
the bowls and the cups and the water bottles and the big knives
28:57
and the big spatulas and the, the, the, the baking glass
29:03
sheets things, the like, what's it called a cake pan?
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I don't know all it can I fit all the stuff in?
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And then when I fit as much as I can fit in there, so long as
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it's all Tetris and not overlapping, then I'm good And I
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start the dishwasher. So that's for me the correct way
29:21
to load a dishwasher. And there's not a lot of
29:25
exception to that. I don't think that I would like
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put less in. I certainly wouldn't try to put
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more in, but I would also wait, which I think is one of the
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differences is like if there's still room for enough, like let.
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I'm not saying don't start the dishwasher if there's room for
29:43
one more bowl, but like if I've got another spare row where I
29:47
could put two or three bowls, well that might be breakfast the
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next day with cereal and yogurt or something like that.
29:52
Or maybe I got room for 3-4 more plates.
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Well, that's that's dinner. So I might leave that open and
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not start the dishwasher. And for me that is the correct
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way to load a dishwasher. OK, I hear what you're saying on
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some of it. Now.
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I'm going to say anytime I'm going to get a win right here
30:13
with my daughter, Anytime a dish makes it into the dishwasher,
30:17
that's a win for a teen. Thank you for getting it in
30:22
there. Even if it's upside down, inside
30:24
out, on the wrong track, even like if it's I don't care.
30:27
You made it in there. That's a win.
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We are going to celebrate that. We don't have to celebrate.
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That I'm celebrating it. That's where they go.
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But I think really, if it fits, if it's not like going to not
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get washed, who cares? Life is too short to spend any
30:48
amount of time fussing about how a dishwasher is for me.
30:54
Now, again, I remember the awful times of having to wash all of
31:01
those dishes. And you know, maybe it's, it's a
31:04
little bit of a response. I have to see dishes in the sink
31:06
and think about that's just work.
31:08
That's work on on my plate, no pun intended.
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Oh my goodness. Yes, you're welcome.
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It's work on my plate that I don't want.
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I just like why? Why?
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I just can't get into the dishwasher immediately and then
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I don't care if it's half full because I know in the future,
31:27
not too far, we don't have one of those, you know, industrial
31:31
sized dishwashers. We're going to need to run it
31:34
again or we're going to run out of dishes and all those things.
31:38
And that's way worse to me, running out of dishes.
31:40
Just yesterday we ran out of forks and that was pretty awful.
31:45
I did not enjoy not having forks.
31:48
I mean, luckily we have a different kind of fork, but you
31:52
know, I mean, I that's a deeper into that silverware drawer than
31:55
I wanted to go. So I just think if it's in
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there, if the machine can do its job, it's good enough.
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And again, if it misses something not the end of the
32:08
world, it can go right back in. So my answer is mostly no,
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there's not a right way. There's a few wrong ways, but
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there's not one right way to load a dishwasher.
32:26
OK, just a couple little I got to recap.
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A couple things. Because I can't resist.
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First of all, one of the reasons we ran out of forks was because
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we ate a lot of cake because it was my birthday.
32:39
It was I. Just want to point that out.
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OK, but no birthday votes. No birthday votes.
32:44
That's why you birthday shares. You don't have to vote for my.
32:46
Birthday shares. But cake is delicious and that's
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why we ran out of forks. And like she said, we have other
32:52
forks because we have like a whole nother suite.
32:54
This is probably another thing you want to replace is
32:56
silverware. But we have a normal set of
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silverware and then we have with the tiny forks or with a salad
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fork. Is that right?
33:03
Yes, appetizer forks, I don't know.
33:04
We got littler forks, but there's still forks and fully
33:07
functional and there's like 10 to 20.
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I don't actually know how many 12 second twelve.
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One of the reasons I completely fill a dishwasher.
33:17
This is probably from my dad probably is conservation of
33:22
water. Now his motivation would be
33:26
because he's cheap and the likelihood he's ever going to
33:29
watch this is really look like little.
33:31
So dad, if you ever watch this, I'm sorry that I called you
33:33
cheap, but you are cheap as hell.
33:35
Now the other good reason to load the dishwasher to conserve
33:41
water aside from saving money, which who knows, maybe it's
33:44
pennies, but but the other reason is if you use less water
33:48
in your home, you're consuming less of the natural.
33:51
Oh my gosh, he does not even care about this.
33:55
Put that out there. Does not care about this, he
33:57
takes like hour long shower. I do not.
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He will wash 2 shirts at a time, so let's just say.
34:05
Just the really sweaty ones. Yeah, let's just say that.
34:08
That car is partially hybrid. OK, here we go man.
34:13
It's. OK, come at me.
34:14
I'm this. I'm done.
34:14
I rest my K I'm sorry. Go ahead.
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I'm just. What you got?
34:20
I I'm telling you, as long as they're washed, that's the
34:24
important function of a dishwasher.
34:26
If it's not full, not the end of the world.
34:29
We don't need to lose our mind over, you know, someone maybe
34:33
stacking the dish wrong. We could, I mean like it's, it's
34:37
not like I, I think that perhaps it might be causing you a little
34:44
more stress to think that there's a right way than if you
34:47
were to just say the right way is that it's turned on soap in
34:52
there. Let's make sure the soap gets in
34:54
there and that it can do its job.
34:56
I feel like that would save some stress for you and so.
35:00
Let it go like Elsa. Yes, yes, let it go and just
35:06
accept that if it's turned on and if it can run, it's the
35:09
right way. And for anyone out there who's
35:13
thinking no, there is Amber's wrong, I might be, but it's so
35:21
much nicer to just let it go and let it run and then put it away
35:29
quickly because Oh my God, why does it need to sit in a
35:33
freaking dishwasher for a day and 1/2 for it to get put away?
35:37
So that is my rebuttal. Now everyone, if you would like
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37:46
next time you're doing dishes or loading or unloading, you know,
37:50
hey, streamos, you can do it, get it all done at the same
37:53
time, you know, or if you make your kids do your dishes, like
37:57
it happened to my house growing up when we didn't have a
38:00
dishwasher, we did eventually get 1.
38:03
So I'm going to say I was that bougie kid, but, you know, turn
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it on for them. You know, they'll, they'll hear,
38:09
they'll maybe get a few special, special bits of advice from not
38:13
you. And it's a lot easier to learn
38:16
something from someone else than your own parents.
38:18
And, and if you like a dishwasher, set up a specific
38:23
way. And if Luke's way sounds right
38:25
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38:29
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