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SpidaCrazy8's Web of Influence · Story Scaling

• 0:00
  Speaker 1: Welcome to Story Scaling by PodcastVideoscom, where creators share the truth behind the content, the grind and the growth.
• 0:10
  Speaker 2: I did the thing that I do when I go to the jobs and get in there.
• 0:13
  Speaker 2: It's like, hey man, I'm a lot more valuable than you think I am to this and because of what I started doing with them.
• 0:23
  Speaker 2: It's the same thing I was doing at the walmart and things like that yeah branding them and making people enjoy it a lot more.
• 0:33
  Speaker 2: I was putting them in situations that.
• 0:35
  Speaker 2: Then all that experience and stuff from those other jobs, all those people still like spider.
• 0:40
  Speaker 2: They didn't dislike me.
• 0:41
  Speaker 2: The people at the walmart loved me.
• 0:43
  Speaker 2: The people at the security place still followed me.
• 0:45
  Speaker 2: They still rock with me and I'm telling them listen to my friends and my friends are good.
• 0:49
  Speaker 2: Now I'm helping them gain a fan base, absolutely.
• 0:52
  Speaker 2: And, um, it was be things that I would see that they wasn't doing correctly and that's what got me to rapping.
• 0:58
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I was like, bro, y'all not doing this, you're not doing that.
• 1:02
  Speaker 2: And so, yeah, the music is great and all that, but people like this and you have to do this.
• 1:09
  Speaker 2: No, all we got to do is go to the studio.
• 1:11
  Speaker 2: No, it's way more than that.
• 1:12
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and so what people?
• 1:14
  Speaker 2: What I did was TJ was like you need to just get in the studio, spider, just go rap a song.
• 1:19
  Speaker 2: I was terrible, of course, but I did it and I liked some of my stuff and I don't know exactly what it was, because I say part of it was people liked it, because they really liked me, and then it was other people who just probably really liked it, but it wasn't done as good as I've gotten, but it was enough to keep me going Absolutely, and that's what I feel like.
• 1:45
  Speaker 2: It really made me become the Spider.
• 1:48
  Speaker 2: So I was Spider for the basketball guy.
• 1:51
  Speaker 2: At that time I had to come up with a rap name and I was like something that's different, something I never heard before.
• 1:56
  Speaker 2: What Spider got and I just put let's do Spider Crazy 8.
• 2:00
  Speaker 2: All of that kind of goes together.
• 2:03
  Speaker 2: Nate with the Spider is cool's cool.
• 2:05
  Speaker 2: Nobody I don't think nobody's ever going to want to be named this.
• 2:08
  Speaker 2: This is a long name and this is something that if somebody's just named this, they had to copy me.
• 2:14
  Speaker 2: And so that's when I came spotted crazy eight.
• 2:18
  Speaker 2: Um started rapping.
• 2:19
  Speaker 2: When I started rapping and doing music, it was a funny thing because I wasn't as good as people other people that were doing it around me, but more people like me, so I can.
• 2:31
  Speaker 2: I learned that I can beat you by influence, and so when I started rapping, kendrick lamar was doing the cypher and he was dissing everybody and everybody around here.
• 2:42
  Speaker 2: That's the type of rap they did that we, we were mean to each other and you know we were putting out.
• 2:47
  Speaker 2: It was.
• 2:47
  Speaker 2: It's like 100 diss tracks on spiders right now currently floating around, literally that you think it's literally 100?
• 2:54
  Speaker 2: Yes, I, I, I had.
• 2:56
  Speaker 2: Like we set up rap beefs and we, we, we beefed on the internet and like we were literally like drop diss tracks on each other it was by people doing it because it got so much attention on twitter and things like that.
• 3:09
  Speaker 2: That wasn't even rappers, they were like post malone singers and they'd make a diss track because they know if they diss spider, that people gonna listen to it.
• 3:17
  Speaker 2: We talking about 10 years ago type stuff.
• 3:19
  Speaker 2: Yes, during the time when I felt like rap beef was more prominent, like wow, when push a Pusha T dissed Drake and Drake dissed Meek Mill, like we were jumping on those beats and dissing each other heavily by the love of the guy.
• 3:33
  Speaker 2: Yep, it got so tough with rap with me because I didn't still Now think about this.
• 3:39
  Speaker 2: Like this is the beginning.
• 3:40
  Speaker 2: This is where I started it.
• 3:42
  Speaker 2: Like I didn't even understand rap at that point.
• 3:46
  Speaker 2: I just knew to just make words right.
• 3:49
  Speaker 2: But people liked that.
• 3:52
  Speaker 2: I had the confidence yeah and so it was like I wasn't as good and I shouldn't have been beating these guys, because these guys have actually studied the game right and things like that.
• 4:01
  Speaker 2: I was just this new guy in, like I said, and I had a fan base because I was doing the other things while they were doing just this, and so I, like I said, I was beating them with basic stuff and it made it was very simplistic, so they wouldn't respect it, but everybody else would, and so I like, literally, rap beef.
• 4:22
  Speaker 2: I will and and and.
• 4:23
  Speaker 2: The only way we can judge it is by votes.
• 4:25
  Speaker 2: You would get the popular vote.
• 4:27
  Speaker 2: You was the man of the people.
• 4:28
  Speaker 2: I beat him easily and it got to the point, like I said, I didn't recognize what rap really was.
• 4:36
  Speaker 2: It got to the point where I would do a song with you and I'm just learning how to rap.
• 4:43
  Speaker 2: Every experience of rap was exciting to me and if I got the rap, I'm going to give it my all.
• 4:50
  Speaker 2: And when I started actually getting good, I did this song I did.
• 4:55
  Speaker 2: It was like uh, pound cakes, the pound cake beat with uh, jc and drake and this guy got on the song with me.
• 5:02
  Speaker 2: His name was wheeze, wheeze, ie, um, and I'm just rapping, yeah, for the love of just making music.
• 5:09
  Speaker 2: And I he told me he's later down the line he, he felt like I was dissing him in the rap song and that's when I knew I was getting good.
• 5:20
  Speaker 2: I was getting to a point where, like, people are really trying to dissect what I'm really talking about no matter even if I'm and I also make me understand that music can be the way.
• 5:33
  Speaker 2: What this sounds like to you doesn't sound like to everybody.
• 5:36
  Speaker 2: Right, what you're doing right here can be historical in this guy's mind and it can be his favorite song for the rest of life.
• 5:44
  Speaker 2: He can play that song right there that you think is horrible or not that good, but to him it's the most incredible thing in the world yeah so I'm learning art, I'm learning music, I'm learning how to make music and I'm learning how to cater to fans.
• 5:59
  Speaker 2: Yeah, at the very beginning, because I'm taking everything that I do in other stuff and I'm using it in music before roughly getting good at music.
• 6:10
  Speaker 1: Then I got good at music bro, let that sit for a second.
• 6:14
  Speaker 1: Let that, let that just sit for a second, because I feel like you're talking about when I hear you speak.
• 6:19
  Speaker 1: There's so many elements that you touch on.
• 6:21
  Speaker 1: The first thing is you got to do everything 100, even if you pushing carts.
• 6:25
  Speaker 1: You got to push that cart the best you can push that cart.
• 6:28
  Speaker 1: You got to beat the other guy yeah yeah, you're gonna lose your job right easily.
• 6:32
  Speaker 1: And then I hear you talk about knowing that you weren't good musically, but you showed up every day and the areas that you were good in, yeah, you did that until your music caught up with your influence.
• 6:44
  Speaker 2: That's crazy yeah, because it's all practice.
• 6:46
  Speaker 2: You can be good at everything I was.
• 6:49
  Speaker 2: I wasn't good at being a manager at walmart.
• 6:51
  Speaker 2: I wasn't good at being a manager at sonic yeah, they all started the same way and because I learned how to do things that way, I know I can do everything and I just it's.
• 7:02
  Speaker 2: You just gotta apply it to everything that you do.
• 7:04
  Speaker 2: So, musically, I wasn't a good manager.
• 7:08
  Speaker 2: I didn't know how to be a manager.
• 7:09
  Speaker 2: I had never seen it before, but I knew if I worked at aesthetic, did the things that I did when I learned how to push carts, then I'll get good to the point where, like, you gotta beat me.
• 7:18
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and I had the confidence to be I was.
• 7:22
  Speaker 2: It's almost like being a little the little brother.
• 7:24
  Speaker 2: I could beat you right now and I'm cool with that, but I'm going to play you.
• 7:28
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm going to play you every time.
• 7:30
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and when I do beat you, you'll never hit a last and I'm going to continue to be able to compete with you.
• 7:36
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's almost a bad thing for you to play against me.
• 7:39
  Speaker 2: Yeah, because I'm and that's how it really happened.
• 7:51
  Speaker 1: You're a strategic thinker.
• 7:53
  Speaker 1: I feel like you didn't always have Based off your story.
• 7:55
  Speaker 1: It feels like there's always been an element of strategy Okay, I'm going to show up here, even though it's going to go poorly, I'm going to learn something.
• 8:01
  Speaker 1: I'm going to learn.
• 8:02
  Speaker 1: So now, when I show up, I know, okay, I can do this this way better.
• 8:06
  Speaker 2: What are you looking for?
• 8:07
  Speaker 2: Don't give me an opportunity and make me fail.
• 8:11
  Speaker 2: I'm not going to allow you to do that.
• 8:13
  Speaker 2: We just walk out.
• 8:15
  Speaker 2: You're going to call me up in here to do a podcast and you're not going to tell me what we're going to talk about.
• 8:20
  Speaker 2: That's crazy.
• 8:21
  Speaker 2: You just want me to walk blindly into something.
• 8:24
  Speaker 2: Tell me what to do.
• 8:25
  Speaker 2: I want to be the best, I want to do good, bro, and if you give me that, I'm not saying that I'm gonna get it down pack the first time, but it's going to be good enough for the get through.
• 8:34
  Speaker 2: You know and I challenge people who are in high positions like that what am I doing here?
• 8:40
  Speaker 2: What are we doing this for?
• 8:41
  Speaker 2: And, yeah, I could be just a regular guy who shows up.
• 8:44
  Speaker 2: Don't ask these type of questions, but you, eventually we're gonna run into some type of issue, right, we can solve right now, and, uh, that gets me pretty far yeah let's talk about where things go from music and, like you were saying, back then you didn't have to have a strong online presence, like people wouldn't online for real.
• 9:06
  Speaker 1: It was in person and, yeah, you had your facebook and your instagram, but, like you still have to pop up in real life now it feels like you can have an entire career.
• 9:15
  Speaker 1: That's just online.
• 9:16
  Speaker 1: You know what I mean, yeah, and so talk about for you when, when things went from more rapping and doing things kind of in person to seeing a shift happen with the internet.
• 9:26
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think you very, I would consider you very well versed in the internet and how it works.
• 9:31
  Speaker 1: You know what I mean, and so talk about the.
• 9:40
  Speaker 2: Just honestly, the rise of the internet and how you have you seen it affect you.
• 9:42
  Speaker 2: So the this is craziest thing because, like I would say it, we go back to, like me, being, at the electronics, very cell phone savvy.
• 9:47
  Speaker 2: So even though the internet was booming, it wasn't on your phone like that yet, right, but I knew how to work a phone better than anybody because I was that guy.
• 9:58
  Speaker 2: Like you couldn't beat me at working a cell phone.
• 10:00
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I could text faster than you.
• 10:02
  Speaker 2: I knew everything that's going on.
• 10:03
  Speaker 2: All you're doing on the phone is probably texting and calling.
• 10:06
  Speaker 2: I'm really on the Internet and doing what other people are doing on the MacBook.
• 10:09
  Speaker 2: I can program a phone.
• 10:13
  Speaker 2: So when the internet started getting on the iphone like it did that's when I got on I was like, okay, now it's right where I wanted to be, yeah, and so, um, first crazy thing that I did and understood and understanding how to take over the internet is like understanding that the amount of people who are ignorant to what's really going on.
• 10:36
  Speaker 2: And so I, the girl that I was dating during the time, really like kevin gates and kevin gates, was doing a bunch of crazy stuff on the internet, and so I posted on the internet that, like me and kevin gates got into it, and it was very believable because kevin gates was doing a bunch of stuff, getting into it with a bunch of people and my girlfriend liked him a lot, so we can be around Kevin Gates at any point in time.
• 10:59
  Speaker 2: I was rapping, I was opening up for him.
• 11:00
  Speaker 2: It was hard for somebody to prove me wrong.
• 11:03
  Speaker 2: Nobody said I did anything, nobody thought it was a lie, wow, and so I ran with that.
• 11:08
  Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, bad.
• 11:10
  Speaker 2: But then that was a social experiment, you did that just to see if it'll go over.
• 11:16
  Speaker 2: Yes, and, and people believed it, yeah, and they still.
• 11:19
  Speaker 2: To this day.
• 11:19
  Speaker 2: Somebody would come up to me and be like man, remember that time you got into it with Kevin Gates?
• 11:22
  Speaker 2: And I'll be like, yeah, yeah, and nobody would question it.
• 11:27
  Speaker 2: But that's when I was like, okay, this is the internet, this is what the internet is, um, and then I say it's still.
• 11:35
  Speaker 2: Even then I wasn't really on it paying attention to it like I should like.
• 11:39
  Speaker 2: It was just kind of like the thing with, uh, I was telling you about the jobs.
• 11:42
  Speaker 2: I had them and I conquered them and it was cool.
• 11:45
  Speaker 2: I understood how to do it.
• 11:47
  Speaker 2: But was I really locked in on doing what I could do to the fullest?
• 11:50
  Speaker 2: Absolutely not.
• 11:51
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'd get on there and troll, I get on that, post funding pictures and make you know things like that.
• 11:56
  Speaker 2: But I wasn't locked into it because I didn't necessarily have to be right, because I was just working regular jobs that didn't require it right, and so it was just something I did when, when it was nothing to do and, um, still rapping.
• 12:10
  Speaker 2: This is when I took over the internet and I understood how to use the internet really well, because I was in Springdale, majoritydale this time.
• 12:17
  Speaker 2: I never came to Fayetteville.
• 12:18
  Speaker 2: I didn't come to Fayetteville for anything, absolutely nothing Not to rap, not to do anything.
• 12:24
  Speaker 2: We did everything we needed to do in Springdale.
• 12:26
  Speaker 2: All the time I would come is maybe to play basketball at the Boys and Girls Club, and that's literally driving there and driving back, not stopping to get nothing to eat, not stopping to hang out with somebody at their house.
• 12:36
  Speaker 2: I didn't know one road in Fayetteville for several years in Northwest Arkansas.
• 12:43
  Speaker 2: Shout out Springdale, shout out Springdale.
• 12:45
  Speaker 2: That's why I live in Springdale and that's why I was put on for Springdale.
• 12:49
  Speaker 2: Springdale is the place that made me understand Northwest Arkansas to the fullest.
• 12:54
  Speaker 2: But a lot of people think that it's Fayetteville because I do majority of my work in Fayetteville right now.
• 13:00
  Speaker 2: Nah, it's not that.
• 13:02
  Speaker 2: But I had to take over Fayetteville in some type of way Because I started becoming the hip-hop stuff started to become bigger.
• 13:12
  Speaker 2: It's like okay, darren moved from Conway, the radio station, and now we got kids, we got radio, I'm dropping music, people are liking it, I'm performing.
• 13:23
  Speaker 2: I performed at, I showcased Darren.
• 13:26
  Speaker 2: This is before me and Darren started working.
• 13:29
  Speaker 2: I was just the artist in the showcase, just like artists, are in my showcase now and I didn't know people.
• 13:36
  Speaker 2: I knew certain people based off relationships I had with females and they knew me because of that, but they didn't know me and so I had to take over Fayetteville in some type of way and get everybody to know me.
• 13:48
  Speaker 2: So it was a couple of things that happened that made me.
• 13:54
  Speaker 2: I used the internet a certain type of way for um, one of the big things were it was two of them, one one big thing was it was a big promoter that was in the city that did it.
• 14:07
  Speaker 2: He kind of said something he didn't need to say to somebody who supported me very well and it was against local artists and music.
• 14:17
  Speaker 2: And I the lady was like she sent me what he said and I I posted that he said it and it blew.
• 14:26
  Speaker 2: It went crazy in fairfield.
• 14:28
  Speaker 2: They nobody could believe that he did, said what he said.
• 14:32
  Speaker 2: It was just pretty much behind the scenes.
• 14:34
  Speaker 2: We don't really care about the rappers, we're just trying to get some money out of them.
• 14:39
  Speaker 2: It was people who actually really cared about it.
• 14:41
  Speaker 2: I posted that and I de-darned him, took him Like alright man, everybody that knew you know me now Because they're seeing it Also.
• 14:50
  Speaker 2: What was going on during that time is battle.
• 14:53
  Speaker 2: Rap was real heavy.
• 14:54
  Speaker 2: So me and him, we I posted that and I got his attention.
• 15:00
  Speaker 2: Now you got to deal with me.
• 15:00
  Speaker 2: Problem to you all.
• 15:02
  Speaker 2: Right, spotty says you you making all this noise, everybody talking, let's set up some type of rap battle.
• 15:06
  Speaker 2: Bet, I got one of the best rap rap battles here.
• 15:10
  Speaker 2: That's what the guy said.
• 15:11
  Speaker 2: Yes, wow, he had to do something to it for sure, because it was.
• 15:16
  Speaker 2: It was too loud.
• 15:16
  Speaker 2: Like I got one of the best rap battles here.
• 15:18
  Speaker 2: That's what the guy said.
• 15:18
  Speaker 2: Yes, wow, he had to do something to it For sure, because it was too loud.
• 15:20
  Speaker 2: Like I was coming for your spot as one of the biggest promoters in Fayetteville now.
• 15:24
  Speaker 2: And now everybody in Fayetteville is like who is this guy?
• 15:26
  Speaker 2: Spider?
• 15:26
  Speaker 2: Well, I know Spider from this thing.
• 15:29
  Speaker 2: The guys from Walmart we know Spider, they're all on my facebook, but they're not in fayetteville.
• 15:34
  Speaker 2: So I'm getting a tremendous amount of support on this that people don't normally see.
• 15:39
  Speaker 2: Right, because these are all my springdale supporters and like even if you don't like it, then I'm getting your favorite people because this is active, uh, and so then we set up a rap battle and, uh, it's with sc Scooby and this guy named BU.
• 15:53
  Speaker 2: I was with Scooby, he was with BU.
• 15:58
  Speaker 1: Shout out Scooby Dundee man.
• 16:00
  Speaker 2: Man, it was such a crazy thing.
• 16:01
  Speaker 2: We did it at one of those parks, bro, and it was like probably a hundred people showed up to watch BU and Scooby rap, because BU was really heavy as far as like an influencer in in fayetteville, arkansas, he had like the streets a lot and scooby was a real battle rapper and nobody had ever seen anything like this in northwest arkansas.
• 16:22
  Speaker 2: Yeah, uh, long story short, we show up, we get crushed, we lose really bad um and it, but it was.
• 16:31
  Speaker 2: It was based off me putting us in a situation that we wasn't quite ready for, and but that's one way to look at it, and this is me not paying attention, knowing what was going on.
• 16:43
  Speaker 2: Years down the line I realized what it really was.
• 16:45
  Speaker 2: I again tremendous amount of popularity and we had do a hip-hop event at a park with no police officer.
• 16:54
  Speaker 2: It's bigger than the battle it was.
• 16:55
  Speaker 2: It was and everybody's talking about it yeah, win, lose or draw.
• 17:00
  Speaker 2: The big w was it was a successful hip-hop event, yep, hosted by spider and one of the biggest promoters in the city of fanville.
• 17:07
  Speaker 2: And we did it, you know, and there was respect, we shook hands, everybody was cool with each other and left the park safe and after that that was all right.
• 17:18
  Speaker 2: So that's everybody getting to know Spider me getting to know everybody.
• 17:21
  Speaker 2: Who's who.
• 17:22
  Speaker 2: Who is this guy?
• 17:23
  Speaker 2: What's your name?
• 17:23
  Speaker 2: Oh, it's Julie, I bet I know I do too.
• 17:25
  Speaker 2: Groups have became a big thing on social media.
• 17:29
  Speaker 2: They have Facebook and I formed a group and every time I was around somebody I would take their phone and I'd write everybody that's their friend to that group.
• 17:41
  Speaker 2: If you was in Fayetteville, cool, boom.
• 17:44
  Speaker 2: The girl I was dating, boom, boom.
• 17:46
  Speaker 2: And I made everybody be in one spot.
• 17:51
  Speaker 2: That was on social media in Northwest Arkansas, and that was the first time I learned how to really use social media.
• 17:59
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and I knew how to get everybody's attention and that was the big thing.
• 18:04
  Speaker 2: And from there, every year, new tools are added to every social media.
• 18:09
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and I just implement those and but I take that mindset it's like you get people in one spot, you give them something entertaining, you wear let's talk about that every time you speak, bro, it's so many different like places you could just jump in on and you stand a lot in a condensed amount of time, so you've been able to.
• 18:30
  Speaker 1: I think two things come to mind.
• 18:33
  Speaker 1: There's this level of learning how to use perception to your benefit.
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: Yes, whether or not you and kevin gates actually got into it, whether or not you was talking to your girl like man you listen to this man too much like and you know, regardless, you said something and had a certain response, got it, got right.
• 18:50
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it got people attention.
• 18:51
  Speaker 1: It got people like listening and focusing.
• 18:54
  Speaker 1: I think there's also a level whether that goes back to battle rapping, whether that goes back to the dude saying something and you posting about it.
• 19:02
  Speaker 1: I feel like you also have a unique way of capitalizing off of controversy.
• 19:07
  Speaker 1: Yes, you know what I mean season of opportunity.
• 19:10
  Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, and that's that's the.
• 19:11
  Speaker 2: That's what I call it in the more professional way.
• 19:14
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like, if I see opportunity, don't you better not let me get that?
• 19:18
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm gonna take full advantage of it and I'm gonna optimize it.
• 19:23
  Speaker 2: Yeah, right way, like I'm not gonna be disrespectful, right, but I'm gonna take advantage of the opportunity that you give me.
• 19:29
  Speaker 2: Don't do that if you don't want me to be successful.
• 19:31
  Speaker 2: Don't lay a small bit of opportunity in my face.
• 19:34
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm gonna seize it and I'm gonna.
• 19:37
  Speaker 2: It's gonna be way bigger than a lot of people think it's going to be, because the biggest thing that I would say is that people don't take advantage of opportunities.
• 19:45
  Speaker 2: If we want a big difference, is that, like, everybody could have been that manager at walmart, everybody could have been a manager.
• 19:52
  Speaker 2: One of the people who were rapping and flow game could have been a manager.
• 19:55
  Speaker 2: They just didn't take the opportunity to do that.
• 19:57
  Speaker 2: Uh, I, I, I.
• 19:59
  Speaker 2: I say what it is is like uh, because I used to do this thing with, because, the more I started knowing people in northwest arkansas, the rappers and things like that they just say things like um, what, what was missing?
• 20:10
  Speaker 2: It's like well, I'm gonna do what's missing, because there's so many of you guys running this way and nobody's running this way, right?
• 20:18
  Speaker 2: So, like the opportunity was, it's always there.
• 20:21
  Speaker 2: It's always opportunity because it is going to be a mass majority of people.
• 20:25
  Speaker 2: What is, uh, like what's in right now, the what's fashion, where cell phone everybody's using what internet, what tiktok or whatever.
• 20:34
  Speaker 2: It's still gonna be something over here.
• 20:35
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a lot of people doing, but you're not paying attention because you're so caught up in all these people over here.
• 20:42
  Speaker 2: You brought it to the hype, yes, so what I'm going to do is everything that you're not doing.
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 20:46
  Speaker 2: And I don't care how lame you think it is or how quick, because the simple fact is, if I get just as many people to say they like what I'm doing as you, then we're equal.
• 20:59
  Speaker 2: You can't do nothing about it and I can diss you, I can cause controversy and I'm gonna have just my 350 comments.
• 21:09
  Speaker 2: Looks the same ways as drake's right now.
• 21:11
  Speaker 2: If drake got a thousand comments and I got him, I look the same way.
• 21:15
  Speaker 2: So what are we doing?
• 21:17
  Speaker 2: And capitalizing on it, understanding how to market that, how to do it in a professional way and in a way that it can be controversial.
• 21:28
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's all strategic, it's real.
• 21:30
  Speaker 2: It's not something that I'm faking Like.
• 21:33
  Speaker 2: If I got to go buy this to create this image just so I can push what I'm trying to do, then that makes more sense than buying into something else that I don't know what it's going to do, right?
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: let's talk about that first viral moment.
• 21:49
  Speaker 2: Oh, man, do you remember your first viral moment?
• 21:51
  Speaker 2: My first viral moment was the most insane thing ever.
• 21:55
  Speaker 2: Is it the kevin kate stage?
• 21:56
  Speaker 2: All that happened but and it always goes to what I really hate hated sometimes because, because it happened so much, you're not really understanding what it was, what, what was going on, what I was doing.
• 22:07
  Speaker 2: Uh, I ended up, um, like I said, I was going through a bunch of different stuff that I was rapping at this point and I got a job at hendels candle and it's one of the craziest parts of my story because Handel's Candle was owned by Walmart and it was a company that I was making candles.
• 22:30
  Speaker 2: I mixed fragrances and I was just working the job because I needed money and I didn't have a real good job.
• 22:36
  Speaker 2: So it was a temp job that I got there and I did the spotted thing.
• 22:41
  Speaker 2: They liked me, they helped me.
• 22:42
  Speaker 2: You know I'm saying so.
• 22:43
  Speaker 2: I'm at hendless cannon and this is my job.
• 22:45
  Speaker 2: It's it's a factory job.
• 22:46
  Speaker 2: It's not the best job in the world, but it is.
• 22:49
  Speaker 2: It's some.
• 22:49
  Speaker 2: I was catching rides with people who work there.
• 22:53
  Speaker 2: I had befriended people who work there and they they were kind of like on the same thing, um, but this is me growing up.
• 22:59
  Speaker 2: I'm a grown man now like I gotta work, yeah, and, and so I was working this job handling kind of, and like I was a guy back in the back mixing fragrances and it was two other guys that was in the front, just like the boss, and this guy named uh, skip the little skip there, uh.
• 23:15
  Speaker 2: But walmart came through doing interviews and they were doing like industrial jobs and they were interviewing people.
• 23:24
  Speaker 2: Now this is hennessy kendall, not the best job.
• 23:26
  Speaker 2: You aren't.
• 23:28
  Speaker 2: I shouldn't.
• 23:28
  Speaker 2: Have probably been there, right with my experience and and and who I was, but I, I was humbled and I was there and I was making the most of it.
• 23:38
  Speaker 2: My competition of who was going to land a real interview with Walmart was very slow.
• 23:45
  Speaker 2: Skip didn't even want to do it.
• 23:47
  Speaker 2: He's just like, yeah, I don't want to do that.
• 23:49
  Speaker 2: And then I had Hispanics that were there that didn't even know English to even do it, and so getting the interview was the easiest thing.
• 24:00
  Speaker 2: You saw an opportunity.
• 24:01
  Speaker 2: That was it.
• 24:02
  Speaker 2: Walmart came in and they was like, hey, we want to just talk to people about working industrial jobs.
• 24:07
  Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, y'all don't want to do this.
• 24:12
  Speaker 2: Oh, are you serious?
• 24:13
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and like I'm still not thinking this is walmart interviewing me big deal, whatever.
• 24:18
  Speaker 2: That's not what I'm looking at it as like I just wanted to get interviewed because I just want to talk to people, right?
• 24:24
  Speaker 2: So I'm getting interviewed, they're talking.
• 24:26
  Speaker 2: Of course I'm doing great because I I know how to talk to people.
• 24:29
  Speaker 2: It's no hiccups for real.
• 24:31
  Speaker 2: Boom, like the guy says it to me and I I'm still not caring.
• 24:36
  Speaker 2: Right, I'm at work.
• 24:37
  Speaker 2: I guess I just got a break from having to mix fragrances.
• 24:40
  Speaker 2: I'm getting interviewed.
• 24:41
  Speaker 2: I'm sitting at the top of the phone hey man, I rap, I do music on my yeah man, and so he leaves.
• 24:48
  Speaker 2: He's like real good interview this could be.
• 24:53
  Speaker 2: I remember his face.
• 24:54
  Speaker 2: I don't know what his name was.
• 24:55
  Speaker 2: I remember that so vividly and I was like, whatever, I can't wait to get off so I can go rap right home.
• 25:01
  Speaker 2: I didn't care about it at all.
• 25:05
  Speaker 2: They come back.
• 25:05
  Speaker 2: It's like hey man, can you take us to where you be rapping at?
• 25:09
  Speaker 2: Really?
• 25:10
  Speaker 2: Yes, I have this documented, I have the video and everything.
• 25:14
  Speaker 2: But they go.
• 25:18
  Speaker 2: I take them to the studio.
• 25:20
  Speaker 2: I rap in the pound k verse in and um, and they also come to my house and they see how I'm living.
• 25:28
  Speaker 2: And they put this on in a walmart commercial.
• 25:31
  Speaker 2: And that was my first viral moment.
• 25:33
  Speaker 2: Like my grandpa had me on like his dvr.
• 25:36
  Speaker 2: I was getting played on like the lit TVs, wow yeah.
• 25:41
  Speaker 2: And.
• 25:41
  Speaker 2: And it also was like doing um, it's like Independence Day and stuff like that.
• 25:46
  Speaker 2: But it was on TV a lot Like like mama's got to see her son.
• 25:51
  Speaker 2: Like be on TV not only with like rapping and doing what I wanted to do, but like with Walmart, yeah, and people were saying it to me, it's like I don't think you understand how big this is.
• 26:03
  Speaker 2: And I, I didn't, yeah, I didn't, I.
• 26:06
  Speaker 2: I I got paid from it like a good little bit of money and like I wouldn't buy like a house, I wouldn't buy cars and stuff like that.
• 26:13
  Speaker 2: I didn't do anything with music with it because I wasn't really in it like that.
• 26:18
  Speaker 2: I wouldn't, I would, I just wanted I remember I was working to handle scandal, I was, I ain't have a lot, so I went, took care of life when I got paid from it, instead of actually taking that and doing stuff to elevate my rap career.
• 26:32
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and that's just how much I did understand what was going on.
• 26:36
  Speaker 2: And, um, that was my first viral moment and it was really.
• 26:40
  Speaker 2: And after that, um, I just got back.
• 26:47
  Speaker 2: I got comfortable to the point where it was like, okay, I can comfortably make music.
• 26:50
  Speaker 2: You know, I could go to the studio.
• 26:52
  Speaker 2: I had this guy named Kevin Sims fly, solo, fly like the uh King Pimpin.
• 26:57
  Speaker 2: I used to go over there and record all the time.