Latest / Best of Business / Carolyn Young: Retail NZ chief executive voices disappointment with struck-down Easter trading bill
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- 0:16Speaker 2: Phil's seeking to remove Good Friday and Easter Sundays restricted
- 0:19Speaker 2: trading days has been voted down. Politicians voted against at
- 0:23Speaker 2: seventy four to forty nine and a conscience vote. Carolyn
- 0:25Speaker 2: Young Retail and Zed Good Evening, Go tov on the show, Carolyn.
- 0:29Speaker 3: Callen, nice to be here.
- 0:30Speaker 2: You disappointed with that?
- 0:32Speaker 3: We are really because you know, it's a good opportunity.
- 0:36Speaker 3: It was a good opportunity for the trading shop trading
- 0:40Speaker 3: hours to be aligned with other places around the world.
- 0:44Speaker 3: And with online trading, you can buy anything. People will
- 0:47Speaker 3: be online on Christmas Day, purchasing, making purchases ahead of
- 0:50Speaker 3: Boxing day, stores on the on Boxing Day, and there's
- 0:54Speaker 3: nothing to stop someone trading online. So why would not
- 0:59Speaker 3: be sensible for someone for a store to be able
- 1:01Speaker 3: to be open should they want to be open on
- 1:04Speaker 3: Easter Friday or the Friday is for Sunday.
- 1:07Speaker 2: Well, I think it's the staff. Is the staff, isn't it.
- 1:10Speaker 2: It's giving everybody a day off together as one. I mean,
- 1:14Speaker 2: sure people can shop online, but you don't have to
- 1:16Speaker 2: man a physical store.
- 1:18Speaker 3: Well, I think the thing about that is that that
- 1:21Speaker 3: we're not all the same. And so the fact that
- 1:23Speaker 3: people think that everybody wants to have the day off
- 1:26Speaker 3: with their family on that day, some people might rather
- 1:29Speaker 3: work and get the penal rates and then be able
- 1:31Speaker 3: to take the day and lose that they get as
- 1:34Speaker 3: an alternate public holiday that they could go to their
- 1:38Speaker 3: son or daughter's school sports day or see their play
- 1:41Speaker 3: or something like that which they couldn't do any other time.
- 1:43Speaker 3: Fair enough, sometimes that can give you greater flexibilities some options.
- 1:46Speaker 2: Are you giving up on this now? Is as dead
- 1:48Speaker 2: in the water.
- 1:50Speaker 3: Look, I think it'll come back around again. It pops
- 1:52Speaker 3: us here up every time. We'll be looking to make it.
- 1:56Speaker 2: Just like, just likeas it'll be back next year. Hey,
- 1:59Speaker 2: let's talk about this this ComCom thing. So the comments
- 2:02Speaker 2: question has come out that got a draft proposal for
- 2:05Speaker 2: reducing Visa and MasterCard payment fees that we pay, which
- 2:09Speaker 2: the well, the retailers pay and then we pay. And
- 2:12Speaker 2: now MasterCard has released a statement suggesting that some retailers
- 2:16Speaker 2: pass on more fees than they are actually charged.
- 2:20Speaker 3: Do they look, it's a complicated space. What we can
- 2:24Speaker 3: say in somewhat, I guess is the short answer, But
- 2:27Speaker 3: the long answer is that the merchant service fee, which
- 2:31Speaker 3: is the total fee that retailers pay, retailers and hospitality
- 2:35Speaker 3: businesses pay to accept transactions via those rails. There's up
- 2:41Speaker 3: to six providers in there that are all taking a
- 2:44Speaker 3: piece of the pie. For a retailer, it's a really
- 2:47Speaker 3: complex space to really understand what your total fees are.
- 2:51Speaker 3: So there's a couple of problems. One is that when
- 2:53Speaker 3: you pay on the terminal, you go there and you
- 2:56Speaker 3: pay a lot of people think about it as being
- 2:57Speaker 3: the f pos terminal, but it's a terminal. Those terminals
- 3:01Speaker 3: don't have the ability to put differential fees on them,
- 3:04Speaker 3: so you should. What we want the terminal providers, and
- 3:07Speaker 3: what we wrote the Commics Commission about was actually that
- 3:09Speaker 3: the terminal food providers need to be able to pay
- 3:12Speaker 3: differential fees for a debit transaction or a credit transaction.
- 3:16Speaker 3: That would go some way to alleviating that, I think
- 3:20Speaker 3: also simplifying the system so that everybody understands what the
- 3:24Speaker 3: total fees are. The draft that's come back for the
- 3:28Speaker 3: Commerce Commission goes some way to some of the things
- 3:31Speaker 3: that we were looking for which is lower fees. But
- 3:34Speaker 3: actually we our submission was ready about we think that
- 3:40Speaker 3: if the Commics Commission wants the fees to be at
- 3:42Speaker 3: one percent of lower, which is what they stated in
- 3:44Speaker 3: their draft documentation for consultation, they should regulate the total
- 3:47Speaker 3: fee because we know that interchange is only one part
- 3:51Speaker 3: of the pace.
- 3:51Speaker 2: So I haven't done. Yeah, they haven't done. In short,
- 3:53Speaker 2: can you give me just a really short yuse or
- 3:55Speaker 2: no here after this draft proposal has been released, our
- 4:00Speaker 2: consumer is going to get cheaper fees at the terminal.
- 4:05Speaker 3: Well, retailers will eventually get to cheap of fees and
- 4:09Speaker 3: consumers well as well, because the comments Commission.
- 4:12Speaker 2: Will be regulate so long, so long as they're passed on. Carolyn,
- 4:16Speaker 2: that's the key, Carolyn Young, retail in Z sixteen after five.
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