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Best of full interview: Rome & Jess Hilarious Unpack Their Co-Parenting Relationship · The Breakfast Club

• 0:00
  Speaker 1: Wake that ass up in the morning. Breakfast Club Morning.
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  Speaker 2: Everybody is the j n V, Jess, Hilarious, Charlamagne and
• 0:08
  Speaker 2: the guy. We are the Breakfast Club.
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  Speaker 3: We got a special guest in the belt because today's
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  Speaker 3: National co Parenting Day, so we had to bring in
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  Speaker 3: a man who I feel like him and Jess have
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  Speaker 3: one of the best co parenting relationships I've ever seen.
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  Speaker 1: Room is here, Room is here. I got trouble already,
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  Speaker 1: Room cause of you. You got it already. I got
• 0:28
  Speaker 1: in trouble cause of you already. Wow. Just say, I
• 0:31
  Speaker 1: want to know who gave Room some liquor this morning?
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  Speaker 2: And I was like, I didn't give it to it.
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  Speaker 2: I just told him where the ball was. Yes, I said,
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  Speaker 2: help yourself, help yourself.
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  Speaker 4: That's fine, And you said it was You said it
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  Speaker 4: was apple juice. And so I was about to take
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  Speaker 4: a step and I was.
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  Speaker 1: Like, was not you have one apple juice? I just
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  Speaker 1: ain't thank you. Was gonna pick the cup up.
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  Speaker 3: You and just have the best co parenting situation I've
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  Speaker 3: ever witnessed. How did y'all get to this point?
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  Speaker 1: Bro? And she thinks she my mother first and foremost,
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  Speaker 1: But it took Tom. It took tom. I felt like,
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  Speaker 1: when you take the feelings out of it and you
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  Speaker 1: realize that the child is the most important part of
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  Speaker 1: the relationship, because it's still a relationship, whether you're intimate
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  Speaker 1: or not, you can do magical things, magical things. And
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  Speaker 1: I think that me being a dad that I was
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  Speaker 1: and that I am still today, I wanted that. I
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  Speaker 1: felt like if we wasn't gonna be together, it was
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  Speaker 1: no need for us to beef. We've created over time.
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  Speaker 1: Whereas now she's my best friend, She's my safe space.
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  Speaker 1: I feel like, you know, I can vent to her
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  Speaker 1: because sometimes all the time I need it. But I
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  Speaker 1: feel like when I was pouring into these other women,
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  Speaker 1: they would use it against me. Whereas though now and
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  Speaker 1: now that she's pregnant, I don't really call it and
• 1:48
  Speaker 1: say certain things because I know she's going through certain
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  Speaker 1: things mentally now. So justice is always in my safe space. Though,
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  Speaker 1: So it's like she's always been a person that I
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  Speaker 1: go to a call, give me advice, some advice don't take,
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  Speaker 1: but just to hear, but just to hear her give
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  Speaker 1: it to you, just to know that she care, because
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  Speaker 1: like I don't really have nobody.
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  Speaker 2: How did y'all, how did y'all meet how did you
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  Speaker 2: meet Jess? And how did y'all start dating?
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  Speaker 1: Back then? What did you see it?
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  Speaker 2: When it was like, oh, this is this is somebody
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  Speaker 2: I want to know that. It's crazy because we grew
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  Speaker 2: up on the smile.
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  Speaker 1: He's starting to smile because we grew up in the
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  Speaker 1: same church. But we didn't know. Now, we didn't know
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  Speaker 1: my mom, my mom was alive, my mom down. When
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  Speaker 1: I was ten, my mom was alive. We went to
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  Speaker 1: the same church. My mom died. My father like really
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  Speaker 1: took me away from everybody. So now it was like
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  Speaker 1: fast forward like seventeen. It's Facebook and it's after my
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  Speaker 1: Space Facebook, and she came across my timeline and I
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  Speaker 1: was like, okay, so I did a dot dot dot
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  Speaker 1: and I put a basketball emoji. You thought she was
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  Speaker 1: a w just shut up played with you, but she
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  Speaker 1: bid on it. Take okay. She she was like what
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  Speaker 1: I forgot what she said, But I was like, I
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  Speaker 1: was just I think. I was like, I'm just coming
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  Speaker 1: to get my ball. Coming to get was mine something?
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  Speaker 5: I said, what is this?
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  Speaker 1: And you want a basketball room? I needed to know
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  Speaker 1: I've seen it somewhereball No I seen somebody do that, Like,
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  Speaker 1: I don't know what I seen. Basketball is even years
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  Speaker 1: okay twelve years ago. So I'm like, I don't know
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  Speaker 1: I did it because I thought it was it was corny,
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  Speaker 1: but I thought it was you know, but it worked.
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  Speaker 1: It got our attention. What do you think just when
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  Speaker 1: you saw the basketball?
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  Speaker 5: I just I said, what the fuck is this?
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  Speaker 1: Okay?
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  Speaker 5: I just typed that back and like he said, it
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  Speaker 5: was my ball.
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  Speaker 4: It's my ball and I'm coming to get I'm coming
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  Speaker 4: to get it or something like that, I'm coming to
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  Speaker 4: get with mine. And I was like, okay, what's that?
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  Speaker 4: I knew what I was giving, what it was about it.
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  Speaker 1: But it worked. It worked.
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  Speaker 2: So you started talking, where was your first date? What
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  Speaker 2: was your first when you started first talking to what was.
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  Speaker 1: Your honest man, Jasica did a lot. I'm gonna say
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  Speaker 1: this before a lot of these young guys became Jody.
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  Speaker 1: I was Jody and our first date, big date. I'm
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  Speaker 1: gonna say it was six flags, Okay, okay, all right,
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  Speaker 1: doing it big. I never had a birth certificate that
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  Speaker 1: my mom died. It was here. My dad didn't want
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  Speaker 1: to come here to get it in New York because
• 4:20
  Speaker 1: he was born in I was going to Stanton Island,
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  Speaker 1: so my dad didn't want to get it. So for
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  Speaker 1: a long time I just had a college I D.
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  Speaker 1: I was driving on a college I D. But Jessica,
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  Speaker 1: it was the simplest one. So let me drive with
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  Speaker 1: no ID. I met with no license. You know, I was.
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  Speaker 1: I was responsible though, so I used to work at
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  Speaker 1: the car wash. I used to clean it, shine it up,
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  Speaker 1: jealum of tizing old nine yards. But our first date
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  Speaker 1: with six Flags that morning, I went to get my
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  Speaker 1: permit before we left for six Flags. But I felt
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  Speaker 1: I went in there on my high horses. That's why
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  Speaker 1: I felt at first big written. It was written, but
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  Speaker 1: it was a computer written get written from failed. The
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  Speaker 1: one way it said, put on your high beings or
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  Speaker 1: your low beings when it's when it's like when it's
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  Speaker 1: raining or something like that, or when it's the ground
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  Speaker 1: most slippery. Did you have shades on? When no, I
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  Speaker 1: ain't really wear shades like that. I did, but there
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  Speaker 1: was another you know, yeah, but first big date, six Flags.
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  Speaker 1: But before that we did a lot of other things.
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  Speaker 1: But after that, it was we did a lot, like
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  Speaker 1: she introduced me to a lot. Actually we both was
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  Speaker 1: the same age. But she helped make me become We
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  Speaker 1: got me, you're becoming a man, coming to man and
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  Speaker 1: then yeah, then boom.
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  Speaker 2: I just always says that you are you were overprotective,
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  Speaker 2: make sure she was good. But she always said, you
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  Speaker 2: can't fight.
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  Speaker 1: Oh my god, she never seen me fight. We fought.
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  Speaker 5: I got that from she didn't say that.
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  Speaker 1: Of course I'm not going to fight her. Bro Oh,
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  Speaker 1: it's crazy because I just got a picture from the window.
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  Speaker 1: You bust the minds one window? What I fish? What
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  Speaker 1: what happened? Or you can't be here? Then if she
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  Speaker 1: could break window from a fist out when you're trying
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  Speaker 1: to fight that, what happened?
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  Speaker 4: Wrong?
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  Speaker 1: To take a sip thinking about that? What happened? All right?
• 6:14
  Speaker 1: I was just talking. I was just in North Carolina
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  Speaker 1: this weekend. I was just just talking about this, like
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  Speaker 1: how my step brothers was like corny a ship right
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  Speaker 1: my step Like, Jessica pull up, mind you ate together,
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  Speaker 1: Jessica pulls up. I had a girl in the house.
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  Speaker 1: So my brother like he comes to the top of
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  Speaker 1: the steps like just at the door. I'm like, all right,
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  Speaker 1: here I come. The nigga. Don't even wait for me
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  Speaker 1: to come. He let her in. He let her in.
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  Speaker 1: Oh boy, I walked right past him and his friends
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  Speaker 1: with the girl, Jessica get in steps.
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  Speaker 4: That she wrote, but what did I see when I
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  Speaker 4: walked down the steps? Jerne, you didn't see so And
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  Speaker 4: then she tries to fassage this story.
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  Speaker 1: Ashton, I had a portable rocking bassing that we put
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  Speaker 1: in the trunk. Send it to her, bring it back.
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  Speaker 1: Ashton was in a portable rocking joint. Me and the
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  Speaker 1: girl was on on the bed. I had on basketball
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  Speaker 1: short she had on her uniform pants. She's gonna say
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  Speaker 1: she's been saying this was the middle of CEO. This
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  Speaker 1: is correct. She's a correctional officer. So like she's sitting,
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  Speaker 1: she's facing me, but her legs is like you know
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  Speaker 1: how that go just to come down and said she
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  Speaker 1: keeps she gonna say, oh, we was naked. We was
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  Speaker 1: not naked. It had been happening. I don't get naked.
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  Speaker 1: And when she tops it up, oh my gosh, she's
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  Speaker 1: never gonna tells anyway, she banged the girl. You beat
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  Speaker 1: up the girl. She didn't beat up bang popped us
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  Speaker 1: and I picked up and walked up the stairs and
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  Speaker 1: throw outside.
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  Speaker 5: You could never lift me.
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  Speaker 1: You never see what I'm saying. She never wants to
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  Speaker 1: She never wants to admit the truth on the field.
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  Speaker 1: Couldn't fight. No, I ain't.
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  Speaker 4: Know she would fight or not, but she had the
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  Speaker 4: one time and then she and she put on her
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  Speaker 4: uniform and went unless went upstairs. Is I promised you
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  Speaker 4: I wish it washon that that.
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  Speaker 5: No, my son was not in no portable nothing.
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  Speaker 4: He was on the floor on a blanket and the
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  Speaker 4: cat was looking at him like he wanted to eat him.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, it was under the carpet. So I will never
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  Speaker 1: lay my I wouldn't even lay on the floor. So
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  Speaker 1: I was my son on the floor. My son was
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  Speaker 1: in a portable bassinet. Okay, y'all were arguing about this
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  Speaker 1: for eleven because you never want to tell you she
• 8:29
  Speaker 1: was drunk out of her mind, and I'm trying to
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  Speaker 1: figure out I was just getting off for work. Had
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  Speaker 1: you didn't damn you did not just get off work.
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  Speaker 1: He was fired at that time, So.
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  Speaker 4: I got fired right after that. I was working at McDonald's.
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  Speaker 4: That's when I was stealing. And then if I was drinking, Okay,
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  Speaker 4: I was drinking on the Joe but I was at work,
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  Speaker 4: so and then I came to get my son and
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  Speaker 4: did not come.
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  Speaker 1: Get your son because it was my weekend. So what
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  Speaker 1: I was getting until Monday from day kid, why would
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  Speaker 1: you coming? No, he was coming to be nosy.
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  Speaker 5: I didn't have to come to me.
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  Speaker 1: You was looking for the passing your winter. If you
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  Speaker 1: get your cousin, she because go home. Eleven years years old. Man,
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  Speaker 1: that's my god. How did you break the women? That
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  Speaker 1: her hands? You walked out see this car? No, I
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  Speaker 1: threw ass out, not.
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  Speaker 5: That you was not that strong.
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  Speaker 3: You did not.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I had you and it was steps
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  Speaker 1: jazz that right then.
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  Speaker 5: He could never ever eaten right now, could not do that.
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  Speaker 1: At the window.
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  Speaker 4: Was just really really because he wouldn't give me my son.
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  Speaker 4: She's give me my son. You called the police and
• 9:39
  Speaker 4: say I didn't call the police.
• 9:40
  Speaker 5: Call the police.
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  Speaker 1: Never called the police. Yeah, I didn't call the police. Listen, everybody,
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  Speaker 1: very everybody here this well, I'm from the jail is
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  Speaker 1: right there, right around the corner. You can walk. It's
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  Speaker 1: the women the commotion. Wal. I don't know how they came.
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  Speaker 1: I thought my stepmother called my god, call one. It
• 10:00
  Speaker 1: was my step mother house, my god mother house. Somebody
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  Speaker 1: called because I ain't called the police. My phone was
• 10:04
  Speaker 1: cracked because you cracked the phone, his phone, but he can.
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  Speaker 5: Still everybody in the house had the phone.
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  Speaker 4: He called my he called the police on me and
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  Speaker 4: then going. And then when the police came, I was
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  Speaker 4: I just sat in my car.
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  Speaker 5: I was mad.
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  Speaker 4: I was like, no, I can't move here to get
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  Speaker 4: my son. And Nicole did tell me your come on
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  Speaker 4: this pull off. He's not giving you the baby. He
• 10:22
  Speaker 4: not give you the baby. I was like, all right, cool,
• 10:24
  Speaker 4: but I was mad, So I didn't pull off the
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  Speaker 4: police paddy wagon and pulled up and got out.
• 10:29
  Speaker 5: And you was like, she right there? She?
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  Speaker 1: How was I trying to get you? How did I
• 10:38
  Speaker 1: try to get you locked up? When I'm the same
• 10:39
  Speaker 1: one call trying to bail you out with no money?
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  Speaker 5: I don't know why you ever thought you could build
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  Speaker 5: somebody out.
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  Speaker 1: With no mindy. I ain't sleep that night out you
• 10:49
  Speaker 1: have a been you ever went through a woman phone?
• 10:51
  Speaker 1: Of course? Could you eat after that? You could? Well?
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  Speaker 1: I couldn't. I'm comparing that to you when she went
• 10:57
  Speaker 1: to jail. I couldn't eat, I couldn't sleep, you know,
• 11:00
  Speaker 1: And sick. I didn't. I didn't want jail. Why the
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  Speaker 1: would I call the police. So how did you punch
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  Speaker 1: the window? That's what I had brought up to it,
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  Speaker 1: and then I just puned. He had a Honda Honda six. No,
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  Speaker 1: it was fresh. It was my first car and it
• 11:17
  Speaker 1: just got adn't like it when I got it. Because
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  Speaker 1: you are jealous now that Remember I had freedom. I
• 11:24
  Speaker 1: had freedom once I got it right much. She couldn't
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  Speaker 1: call me say bring me my car back, Jody, right.
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  Speaker 5: I never called you that.
• 11:31
  Speaker 1: I never called you.
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  Speaker 5: She took you to get the car. I ain't never
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  Speaker 5: seen nobody when.
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  Speaker 1: When we when we when we got when I got
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  Speaker 1: in the car. When I got in the car, she
• 11:40
  Speaker 1: was like, I don't like this ship.
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  Speaker 5: I said, yeah, so this means you real really be
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  Speaker 5: doing you.
• 11:45
  Speaker 1: Because she was doing you.
• 11:46
  Speaker 5: He would drop me off the work and go act
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  Speaker 5: like he in class.
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  Speaker 1: I was a student then was to beat for my associates.
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  Speaker 1: That's I did. I went to the class because that's
• 11:55
  Speaker 1: why you got off work two o'clock. You have to
• 11:56
  Speaker 1: be to work six o'clock. So I was getting up
• 11:57
  Speaker 1: five am every morning. We got to work. We got
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  Speaker 1: here job by five forty five. I got out of
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  Speaker 1: class at one thirty, did my homework for the fifteen minutes,
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  Speaker 1: came the cold Spring, make Downalds and picked you up.
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  Speaker 1: Then we went home. That was my routine. Money to Friday, won.
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  Speaker 5: A lot of things.
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  Speaker 1: But did you hurt your hand?
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  Speaker 4: No, it didn't hurtuntil I got in jail. I ain't
• 12:16
  Speaker 4: gonna lie when I got in jail, but it hurts.
• 12:19
  Speaker 1: She sobered up.
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  Speaker 5: This is the crazy thing.
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  Speaker 1: I was not that drunk.
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  Speaker 4: So then when I got to guess who did my
• 12:26
  Speaker 4: jo damn gotten No, guess who did my intake?
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  Speaker 5: The damn girl who was with him?
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  Speaker 1: The one did you punched? Yeap, yes she went. She
• 12:36
  Speaker 1: didn't do that.
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  Speaker 5: She did the same girl that I popped yall.
• 12:43
  Speaker 4: She did it, but she didn't say nothing because she
• 12:45
  Speaker 4: couldn't be caught up in nothing like that.
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  Speaker 5: Got fired.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah she did.
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  Speaker 5: I straight sold on her like yeah, because I was like,
• 12:51
  Speaker 5: so you absolutely this is just a little wow.
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  Speaker 4: How could you actually want to fuck with a nigga
• 12:57
  Speaker 4: who laid his baby and the cats on the on
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  Speaker 4: the carpet.
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  Speaker 1: I ain't mad at that.
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  Speaker 3: I am on that very much because you don't know
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  Speaker 3: what she could have tried to do to you in
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  Speaker 3: that situation, so you gotta put everything on.
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  Speaker 5: I was like, no, it was ghetto will be gotten,
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  Speaker 5: and that's what it was.
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  Speaker 3: So now when you hear this story and you say
• 13:16
  Speaker 3: to yourself, why they there on National co Parent Day?
• 13:19
  Speaker 3: Because they are like the best of friends. Now they
• 13:21
  Speaker 3: call each other. Jess calls you her brother. How do
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  Speaker 3: you feel about that?
• 13:25
  Speaker 1: How did y'all get there? Do you look at her
• 13:27
  Speaker 1: like your sister? You said, Mama, I was gonna say
• 13:29
  Speaker 1: what she said created that like my mother, Like when
• 13:32
  Speaker 1: we are the town and sh she had like my mother,
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  Speaker 1: And I ain't gonna disclose too much. But she thinks
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  Speaker 1: she my mother. No, I just know she likes to control,
• 13:41
  Speaker 1: like she know how I am though, like me and alone.
• 13:43
  Speaker 1: I think part of that controlling pause like don'tkay we
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  Speaker 1: I bro be twenty of us. I don't want to
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  Speaker 1: be with y'all. So guess what I'm gonna do?
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  Speaker 5: He can go out of town with these twenty people
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  Speaker 5: and then be like.
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  Speaker 1: All right, I'm like, no, we could be all on sprinting.
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  Speaker 5: What's going on?
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  Speaker 1: No sprint or whatever state we go to. I won't
• 14:00
  Speaker 1: even gonna go with a rental or slingshot or something
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  Speaker 1: better not be raining. But I think that that controlling
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  Speaker 1: part comes in just because she cares. And sometimes especially
• 14:12
  Speaker 1: when I'm under the influence, I've done dumbass ship so
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  Speaker 1: as good as you know that. I don't know if
• 14:20
  Speaker 1: you heard just assist in the back everybody like you know,
• 14:23
  Speaker 1: everybody knows. But I hold myself accountable to that mind.
• 14:26
  Speaker 1: You Now, I ain't gonna say what I learned for
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  Speaker 1: Woman six, cause I done did the dumbass ship over
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  Speaker 1: and over again. But I think in that aspect, that's
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  Speaker 1: when the mother of the mother with the v coming,
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  Speaker 1: but the brother calling me brother and sisters were like,
• 14:38
  Speaker 1: honestly without the child like it it's there. It's it's
• 14:42
  Speaker 1: seemed like Amazon camera's off, like you can't fake this
• 14:45
  Speaker 1: or make this ship up.
• 14:46
  Speaker 4: Oh yeah, Rome started that room, started calling me sis first,
• 14:49
  Speaker 4: and then I started calling him bro. I you know,
• 14:52
  Speaker 4: I'm like, yeah, we do have like a sibling dynamic
• 14:55
  Speaker 4: in some way.
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  Speaker 5: You know, he's still confides in my mom.
• 14:58
  Speaker 4: He like, my mom is our mother. Like it's not
• 15:03
  Speaker 4: it ain't nothing crazy, it's nothing intimate. Like seriously, I
• 15:06
  Speaker 4: always say this people be like, yeah, right, I can
• 15:08
  Speaker 4: literally walk past and I.
• 15:11
  Speaker 5: Don't do this.
• 15:11
  Speaker 4: But what I'm saying, I can walk past this man nigked
• 15:14
  Speaker 4: and he does. They be like, girl, what like put
• 15:16
  Speaker 4: that out?
• 15:16
  Speaker 5: I'm talking about seriously, like how y'all.
• 15:19
  Speaker 1: Know each other's spouses or each other's boyfriend and girlfriend?
• 15:21
  Speaker 1: Like how do you deal with his girl? And how
• 15:23
  Speaker 1: do you deal with with she told you.
• 15:27
  Speaker 5: Five?
• 15:28
  Speaker 1: Okay, I never told you. He had always tried. It's cool, though,
• 15:34
  Speaker 1: it's cool, get five. But this is this and now
• 15:37
  Speaker 1: this was the friction part and we got over that.
• 15:39
  Speaker 1: But this is the The friction part was I mom
• 15:41
  Speaker 1: my business. I'm getting her ship. But the friction part
• 15:44
  Speaker 1: was her getting into minds. But she's still a woman.
• 15:49
  Speaker 1: I'm still a man. So women tend to do that.
• 15:51
  Speaker 1: And this is not no shame to women. I don't
• 15:54
  Speaker 1: mean no disrespect by saying it, but I think women
• 15:57
  Speaker 1: tends to do that, especially a woman that care about you.
• 16:00
  Speaker 2: She said, sometimes you make bad decisions and she's there
• 16:03
  Speaker 2: as your sister to make sure you're good, regardless if
• 16:05
  Speaker 2: it's life relationship or whatever. Correct said with me personally,
• 16:11
  Speaker 2: I never really like I talked to her about certain things.
• 16:13
  Speaker 2: But I never really like my family to get into
• 16:15
  Speaker 2: no intimate situation. Yeah, because guess what y'all feel a
• 16:19
  Speaker 2: way about this person. However, I want, whether it's negative
• 16:22
  Speaker 2: of good. If I'm gonna deal with this person, I'm
• 16:24
  Speaker 2: gonna deal with her like the female can smack shit
• 16:27
  Speaker 2: out me yesterday.
• 16:28
  Speaker 1: Mm hmmm. I might get over and fuck it them all.
• 16:32
  Speaker 1: But it's like, that's why I always That's how I
• 16:35
  Speaker 1: was always able to distinguish the two, Like when Jessica
• 16:38
  Speaker 1: would have men, when she come to me, like, I
• 16:40
  Speaker 1: don't know, like I ain't never pillow talking or sneak
• 16:43
  Speaker 1: this or nothing, like I don't really care for like
• 16:45
  Speaker 1: it ain't nothing a nigga have that I don't, if
• 16:47
  Speaker 1: you put it in that sense. But when she comes
• 16:49
  Speaker 1: to me with a man, I tell her ain't right.
• 16:52
  Speaker 3: But both of y'all got to care though, because you're
• 16:53
  Speaker 3: gonna want to know who around your son.
• 16:56
  Speaker 1: I never did though, Yeah, I never so in the
• 16:58
  Speaker 1: beginning stage. Yeah, don't have this niggam summer. But I
• 17:01
  Speaker 1: grew out of that. So now it's I trust my
• 17:03
  Speaker 1: child mom enough to she won't bring no fans sit
• 17:06
  Speaker 1: around my child. So I don't say, oh, don't have
• 17:08
  Speaker 1: this nigga. That's never been a problem. It has been
• 17:10
  Speaker 1: a problem. Was motherfucker's envy me except for my last dog. Yeah,
• 17:17
  Speaker 1: my dogs? Who the dog? My dog? Chris, Chris, Chris,
• 17:21
  Speaker 1: My dog's my dog. I ain't gonna hold he. I
• 17:23
  Speaker 1: think he's the I think like honestly, me and jess
• 17:28
  Speaker 1: Man like, I think it's been times where a woman
• 17:31
  Speaker 1: didn't like me and her situation. But guess what, bye.
• 17:35
  Speaker 4: Yeah more so on and yeah, it'll be more so
• 17:37
  Speaker 4: on his end because it's much more of them. But
• 17:41
  Speaker 4: the thing is, the thing is, like I don't like
• 17:45
  Speaker 4: when because I even tell him what he's doing wrong too, Like, yo,
• 17:49
  Speaker 4: don't cheer her like that.
• 17:50
  Speaker 5: This is how how how you going to introduce me
• 17:53
  Speaker 5: to it?
• 17:53
  Speaker 1: Now?
• 17:53
  Speaker 5: Now I done got to nowhere, you know.
• 17:56
  Speaker 4: And whether she had a kid or not, most of
• 17:58
  Speaker 4: the time it's the ones that have the kids. But
• 17:59
  Speaker 4: it's like, yo, you gotta be do right or just
• 18:03
  Speaker 4: be single, Like, don't keep hurting women in the process
• 18:07
  Speaker 4: of trying to find what you're looking for. I mean,
• 18:09
  Speaker 4: I know that's all a part of dating, but when
• 18:11
  Speaker 4: you have kids, it's different, you know, and then here
• 18:14
  Speaker 4: be like, oh, that's why I don't like you to
• 18:16
  Speaker 4: be getting into it, you know, And then I don't
• 18:18
  Speaker 4: like he he attracts a lot of toxic women to
• 18:21
  Speaker 4: like abusive relationships where women will put their hands on them.
• 18:24
  Speaker 4: I'm like, what, yeah, all right, you know, but he don't.
• 18:28
  Speaker 4: He's like, no, but I might be fucking with it
• 18:30
  Speaker 4: them all. What she just blacks your eye? What are
• 18:33
  Speaker 4: you talking about? You know what I'm saying, like, no,
• 18:35
  Speaker 4: we're not doing it.
• 18:35
  Speaker 1: But Claire, I had a black guy.
• 18:37
  Speaker 4: Okay, well she busts your nose whatever. Women have put.
• 18:41
  Speaker 1: Their hands on you, and that's why, and that's why
• 18:45
  Speaker 1: she's my dog. Like I think she's the only one,
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: really honestly, the one to get the fuck under my skin.
• 18:52
  Speaker 1: Like it's a certain word place she used and I
• 18:54
  Speaker 1: don't care what tone she used it in, but to
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: say that, it's like I was really never taught how
• 19:01
  Speaker 1: to love, like from I lost my mom at ten
• 19:05
  Speaker 1: years old. My heart, I move with my dad, and
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: when I move with my dad, my dad move my
• 19:10
  Speaker 1: dad in. My step mom, which is my mom now,
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: and my mom have a great relationship. That's my step
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: mom and my dad was married, but my dad was cheating,
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: like saying, like my dad, my dad showing me ship that, right,
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: I'm thinking cool. So like when even when I started
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: dealing with women and stuff like that, multiple women and
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: all that, my dad was like, yeah, so absolutely, And
• 19:37
  Speaker 1: I'm thinking it's cool because that's that's that's what I'm saying.
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: I'm being taught like and every man in my life
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: that I looked at as a role model me was
• 19:45
  Speaker 1: the same way. So it's like what you expect. But
• 19:51
  Speaker 1: the good thing is now it's like I'm old enough
• 19:54
  Speaker 1: now in mind, I ain't perfect. Now I'm seeing it.
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: I'm trying to, you know, change it. But I never
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: was taught to love properly, so and I never my
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: trust issues is fucked up from my dad, like brought
• 20:05
  Speaker 1: my trust issues met her because I'm seeing what he's doing.
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: But I'm saying when it's done to him, his reactions
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: like damn, my nigga, you were just doing this. How
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: you're gonna get mad? Right? So it's like every relationship
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: I've went into, I had an exploration date me, I
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: put an X ray on myself. I said, she's gonna
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: get she gonna get get what I'm getting, I'm gone
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: m hm. So I never really gave a woman the
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: what's the word I'm looking for. I never really gave
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: a woman commitment, not even commitment, but I've never give
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: a woman a chance to really love me. But even
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: with the kids, like even having kids, No, I haven't.
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: And this is like I said, no distracts to my
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: children moms. A lot of my my children came out
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: of vulnerability. Explain found on that. And I'm explaining that.
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: So I will meet a woman who I may feel
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: like she's what I need, another safe place or whatever
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: the case may be, but I'm already vulnerable from a
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: previous relationship. It have a child, knowing I don't want
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: to be with this woman. I don't want to. I
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: don't I really don't want to be with her, but
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: I feel like I'm forced to be with her because
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: it's a child. Mhm. And I've done that.
• 21:18
  Speaker 3: You know multiple times you needed a therapist, not another baby,
• 21:22
  Speaker 3: momel I need correct.
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: But at the time of need, at the time of vulnerability.
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: You know women, you know women, women can they be
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: massed up.
• 21:32
  Speaker 4: And also you know, just on a accountability part which
• 21:35
  Speaker 4: he has taken over his recent years.
• 21:37
  Speaker 5: Is like you was looking for like.
• 21:41
  Speaker 4: Your mom and women, and you would never get that,
• 21:44
  Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying, because you was trying to
• 21:46
  Speaker 4: look for an emotional connection with with you know, nurturing
• 21:52
  Speaker 4: also and then like you was really really search searching
• 21:55
  Speaker 4: for Keisha. Keisha's his mother. You were really searching for
• 21:57
  Speaker 4: her and women. You know, that's a different type of love,
• 22:01
  Speaker 4: you know what I mean.
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: I think different women. I always dealt with different women
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: because different women had certain what is it, certain things,
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: aspects of it, aspects of her. But like I never
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: knew how to be alone, bro, Like I would be
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: single and my own apartment and all that and let
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: it go and go move with a woman because I
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: never knew. Really I don't know how to I don't
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: like being lonely like so it's like a lot of
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: the times when I say this ship is real, Like
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: I don't know if a lot of other men like me.
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: But when being lonely, bro, you go through s, you
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: don't get how much money you got. I don't care
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: about none of that. But like I never really knew
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: how to be alone, Like I feel like I got
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: to have somebody laying next to me because even before
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: my mom died, my mom was sleepnaked. This is a
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: back then thing. How old were you with I was telling,
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: but I was a mommy's boy. Did you ever did
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: you ever really properly so grieving? No? I never really grieved.
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: All I did was I thought it was gonna help
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: by going to school for social work, because that's what
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: she was. But I never really probably a grieved and
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: that's a that's a process. Now. I do want to get,
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: you know, back in the gym. I do want to
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: get a therapist. I don't want everything else around me
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: to be intact so that I could fully commit, because
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: if I ain't fully committed, it ain't gonna work.
• 23:16
  Speaker 4: And then also I also feel like your your dad
• 23:19
  Speaker 4: didn't get you any table dad.
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: Honestly, I felt like me personally. This is probably the
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: first time I said this, like I did. I think
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: my father really wanted me for a check man exactly
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: what I said, like the money and lied to me
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: for so long. I lost a scholarship because of my
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: dad because at the time where I wanted to go,
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: I wanted to get away from them, so I had
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: I had a couple of scholarships. I had like over
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: thirty acceptances. I got accept it to a school in Florida.
• 23:50
  Speaker 5: I think, did your mom leave you money or.
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: Yeah my mom?
• 23:52
  Speaker 2: Yeah my mom, So my mom left your mind, maybe
• 23:54
  Speaker 2: the government gave you a job, so.
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: My mom, My mom left money. My mom was getting
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: money in you know, social Security st So it's like
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: my dad was making bank like I did that case.
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: I ain't evenna say the calculations. Calculations is crazy. What's
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: your relationship with your dad now? Is we be okay?
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: You know, we all right? He you know, he's still
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: living with that regret, and I feel like that's why
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: we can't really get there. But yeah, like I feel
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: like my dad wanted me for a check manne a scholarship.
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: I lost scholarship. I lost a scholarship because August, like
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: twov's full school was supposed to start. I had got it.
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: I was leaving like my mom's side. He bought all
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: my dorm stuff and all of that. All my life,
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: my father always said, yeah, when you get eighteen, you're
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: gonna have money. You can go get your car, you
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: can go do what you want, you go to school,
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: whatever the case. Me to be all right, cool, I
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: get eighteen, I graduate. It's nothing there, I asked my father.
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: I'm like, well, there's still no answer to the father
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: never even answered, so I know I got a scholarship.
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: I had a partial scholarship, So a partial scholarship with
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: the you're paying the school and on and room and
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: board that's at the school I was going through. That
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: was about sixteen seventeen thousand semester. I had like a
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: forty two thousand dollars partial joint. So my dad was
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: always saying, all right, I got the rest. I got
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: the rest. So two weeks before I was supposed to leave,
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: So a month before I supposed to be, my family
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: got all my door and stuff. A week before I
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: was supposed to leave, my father called me up to
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: the room and he like, I ain't even say what
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: he said. I'm like, he like, you can't go to school.
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: I'm like, why not, Like nigga, I'm an age student,
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: Like I worked hard for this. I was an athlete.
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: I was a student. I ain't. I ain't getting no
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: office from basketball my junior senior year. So I gave
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: up and said, fuck it, I'm gonna fall back on
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: my grades. You always said I had the money. The
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: money wasn't there. He spent it all. And you know,
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: we turned eighteen, like seventeen and a half, it stopped coming.
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: But even if you even if it come again, when
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: I'm eighteen, that's one check, all the rest gone. And
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: my step mother used to always tell him my stump.
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: And I love my stepmother for this, and I wish
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: I'd known this when I was younger. But my step
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: mother used to always tell them put that money up.
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: But she never came to me because she didn't want
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: to overstep the boundaries of her husband. And I understood it.
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: But now that I'm grown and we have conversations now,
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: it's like I understood it because my father always tried
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: to make people hate me. I hated my step Yeah,
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: I hated my step mother growing up, but it was
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: never heard it was him. Lights ain't get cut off.
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: We had Christmases because of my stepmam. My dudes got paid,
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: my senior d I'm talking my middle school dues. Bro,
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: you're getting money for me. In my middle school dues,
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: my stepmother paid them. My step mother and my teachers
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: paid them. Wow. High school dues, my stepmother paid them.
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: And my friends I got two friends. Then Mother's paid
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: all that, so it was like my dad really crushed me. Man.
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: I told my dad a couple of weeks ago. Man
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: I said, bro, you hate me, not literally saying you
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: hate me, but you hate me so much because I
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: got you. I caught your ways. I said, what the
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: difference between me and I'm young and I'm chaying I'm
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: gonna change them. You're twenty years older than me, you
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: still doing the same thing. You want to break those cycles,
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: and I want to. It's not even me breaking a cycle, bro,
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: I just I don't like being like this, Like I
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: don't like hurting people. I don't like hurting women, don't
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: like I never really heard. I'm so loyal to my
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: friends that any little disloyal thing they do to me,
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: they cut off. So it's like the shit be hurting man.
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: And it's like, damn, I already had nobody. So then
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: when I got a child, mom, I cherish it. I
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: tell trash the really ones you love, the really ones
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: that's genuinely there for you, the ones that you ain't
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: got to do nothing for them, And I really love
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: you because guess what, at the end of the day,
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: when shit go, if shit go, bad. They're gonna be
• 27:25
  Speaker 1: the one that you can count on.
• 27:26
  Speaker 3: You know, there's this thing when when you start going
• 27:28
  Speaker 3: to therapy you'll hear about. It's this thing called the
• 27:30
  Speaker 3: mother womb, and it's a type of attachment trauma that
• 27:32
  Speaker 3: instills deeply rooted beliefs that make the child feel unloved, abandoned,
• 27:38
  Speaker 3: unworthy of care, and numb to their feelings.
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: That does that feel like you, mass low loss, mass
• 27:45
  Speaker 1: lole loss. It's dumb yours. A child will affect you
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: as an adult, but it will not define you, That's right.
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: So it's like it's crazy because going to schools, Like, man,
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: you're reading this shit. I'm like, man, it's me. It's me,
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: Like you know, I'm thinking of my own therapist. But
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: you know, every therapist needs a therapist and that's how
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: they that's how they able to be effective. So it's like, man,
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: like you, no, I've been through I ain't have a
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: bad upbringing, but I've been through some traumatic situations, man,
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: and you know, like I ain't. They ain't gonna define
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: me like them babies and mom. Man, I love them babies.
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: I feel like if it weren't for my babies, I'd
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: have crashed out long time ago, long time ago. And
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: that's what I said. I got them babies, and out
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: of all my check I got, I got I got
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: two children moms like that. My last one, you know,
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: she she made no harm by certain things, but I
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: got that one, and I got this one to my left, man,
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: my dog. And it's like she give me hope every day.
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: She don't even know it, like even when you know,
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: we might not even argue, but like it be days
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: I wake up, she's doing You're all right? How you feeling?
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: Just because I know that she needed like when you
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: when you when you the the shoulders in the head
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: of families or communities, bro. Like it's a lot, you know, honestly,
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: I think them people need it the most. So I
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: give her flowers every day and I feel like man
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: like without her. Yeah, I think you're on the right back.
• 28:58
  Speaker 3: You know, they stay healing the mother when first starts
• 29:01
  Speaker 3: with acknowledging the pain, correct and then seeking professional help.
• 29:04
  Speaker 3: What you want to do, cultivating healthy relationships, what y'all done,
• 29:08
  Speaker 3: and you're focusing on self care personal growth?
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: Yes, right, you're definitely on the right path, just won't
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: get that mass time take time, you know, but it'll
• 29:15
  Speaker 1: be there.
• 29:16
  Speaker 3: How did y'all that's the most thing, most I won't
• 29:19
  Speaker 3: say most important, one of the most important things. How
• 29:21
  Speaker 3: did y'all realize we don't have feelings for each other?
• 29:23
  Speaker 5: No more?
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: Like? How did that just go away? Like y'all have
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: y'all love each other? But not in that way.
• 29:28
  Speaker 5: I got my answer, you want to go first, you
• 29:30
  Speaker 5: can go first, because I'm still thinking.
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: When I stopped caring about who she dealt with, when
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: I wouldn't even like I wouldn't even care, Like, how
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: did that take? Oh? Oh three years? So like when
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: action was like three yeah, it was still really yeah,
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: it was like three years. But at that but honestly
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: that three years like I had caught a big check.
• 29:58
  Speaker 1: So it's like when I I was almost half a
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: million a nigga, So it was like it was the
• 30:05
  Speaker 1: pain that I had. Whatever the case I would I
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: would pay. I was like just boy ship to block
• 30:09
  Speaker 1: it out. But other than that, like you ain't trying
• 30:12
  Speaker 1: to stun on her a little bit? No, I never, no,
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: I never, no, I never.
• 30:16
  Speaker 5: I'm waiting for that.
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: I never intentionally stunted on her. I never did that.
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: Never I did everything she possibly could ask me to do.
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: And she said on a one of these souls something
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: about a B G. E. Bill And I'm addressed that
• 30:31
  Speaker 1: I never wanted. I'm addressed that now with the BC. So,
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: so I'm explaining her lights got cut off.
• 30:41
  Speaker 2: I got a five hundred thousand dollars checking Listen.
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: No, it wasn't right then and there, but it's over
• 30:46
  Speaker 1: time because like mind a lot of my place. She
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: helped me. She helped me get a lot on the
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: back end, but in a time like I helped her.
• 30:54
  Speaker 1: Whatever the case, I didn't know she was moving with
• 30:56
  Speaker 1: a man.
• 30:57
  Speaker 5: I didn't move with a man.
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: Well she moved man in with her. Yeah, okay, after
• 31:02
  Speaker 1: he had you and the dog too. Now in my business,
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: so I don't know that he's not there. So boom,
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: here's his So here's here's my logic. And I'm ana
• 31:12
  Speaker 1: say what I'm gonna say to her after I explained it,
• 31:15
  Speaker 1: my logic was, all right, man is in the house. Boom,
• 31:19
  Speaker 1: eager cut off? Right, I'm thinking, like damn, So she
• 31:24
  Speaker 1: like was wrong. I'm like, well, I take my son
• 31:26
  Speaker 1: with me. But that wasn't me talking. That was the
• 31:30
  Speaker 1: girlfriend I had talking.
• 31:31
  Speaker 5: Oh, ship. You ain't tell me that.
• 31:33
  Speaker 1: I never told you that because as a woman, you
• 31:34
  Speaker 1: ain't trying to hear that, and as as a man
• 31:37
  Speaker 1: and you be and me, I don't want to hear that.
• 31:39
  Speaker 1: So I didn't want to tell you that because I
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: have felt less of a man. So yeah, but I'm.
• 31:45
  Speaker 2: Gonna understand him if somebody else is smacking the cheeks, listen.
• 31:49
  Speaker 1: So the girlfriend was living, so the girlfriend was.
• 31:52
  Speaker 5: Like, don't talk about no house ahead.
• 31:54
  Speaker 1: So the girlfriend was like, I took a certain amount
• 31:59
  Speaker 1: of mony out the bank. I did. She was with me,
• 32:02
  Speaker 1: she like, mind you the certain amount of money. I
• 32:05
  Speaker 1: had to call because I was gonna break it in half,
• 32:07
  Speaker 1: give it to Jessica and I take the rest. And
• 32:09
  Speaker 1: I was going me and Ashton man ask that's all
• 32:11
  Speaker 1: I did, shot man Ashton. So I was gonna give
• 32:14
  Speaker 1: it that. But the girl like, why are you giving
• 32:17
  Speaker 1: it to Jessica. I'm like, cause she needed and she
• 32:21
  Speaker 1: like I never said them here. I never said the reason.
• 32:24
  Speaker 1: I never said the reason. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I never
• 32:27
  Speaker 1: said the reason. Though. She was like, what exactly do
• 32:31
  Speaker 1: she needs? Because I know you ain't giving her. No,
• 32:33
  Speaker 1: she don't need a bag or nothing like that. I'm like, nah,
• 32:35
  Speaker 1: it's something else. She like, well, don't she got a
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: nigga living with her, And mind you, I'm drinking at
• 32:43
  Speaker 1: the time. Are you thinking the same thing. I'm like,
• 32:46
  Speaker 1: you wasn't even thinking that till she said it. I
• 32:48
  Speaker 1: wasn't thinking that, but I'm drinking. But when she say it,
• 32:50
  Speaker 1: because I'm not, like I said, bro like wives and girlfriends,
• 32:52
  Speaker 1: I've seen. I've seen. I've seen men crumble and go
• 32:56
  Speaker 1: against a family because of her wife or a girlfriend.
• 32:58
  Speaker 1: I've seen it, and I'm like, you know what, You're right?
• 33:02
  Speaker 1: Why you ain't as just though crazy people say yes,
• 33:05
  Speaker 1: Because I was a young emotional boy who just ran
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: into a bunch of money and came with that. The
• 33:12
  Speaker 1: bitches every my nigga, I'm hurt, hurt young man, got
• 33:15
  Speaker 1: a lot of money. Everybody and fucked me over. Nigga.
• 33:17
  Speaker 1: I got some money, I'm doing the fun. I wanted
• 33:19
  Speaker 1: to make myself happy, and that's how my nigga went broke.
• 33:23
  Speaker 1: Like it was times when I'm not happy, but I
• 33:24
  Speaker 1: go spend money just because I'm not like, Oh, the
• 33:27
  Speaker 1: coaches came out like that.
• 33:29
  Speaker 5: Everybody except me.
• 33:31
  Speaker 1: You that I was like and granted. Right now, on today,
• 33:37
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna say I truly, sincerely apologized for not taking
• 33:42
  Speaker 1: care of you the way I should have. And I'm
• 33:46
  Speaker 1: gonna take my glasses because for a long time that
• 33:51
  Speaker 1: ship hurt me. And it's like I never ever, ever,
• 33:57
  Speaker 1: especially I never ever ever ever meant to do that
• 33:59
  Speaker 1: to you. And it's like, now, that's why I even
• 34:03
  Speaker 1: I work so hard today and just try to even
• 34:07
  Speaker 1: just give you something. But in due time that she's
• 34:13
  Speaker 1: gonna come back. I ain't you know, I hadn't made
• 34:15
  Speaker 1: that shit back when broke again, made it back, went
• 34:17
  Speaker 1: broke again. But my biggest downfall, the comments denominade it
• 34:19
  Speaker 1: was alcohol and women. So that shit, them two problems
• 34:23
  Speaker 1: never allowed me to really reach my full potential because
• 34:26
  Speaker 1: even when I seen it a couple of years ago,
• 34:28
  Speaker 1: you've seen it twenty nineteen when I was single, when
• 34:31
  Speaker 1: I went moved back by myself, I ran that motherfucker up.
• 34:34
  Speaker 5: Flourish ran.
• 34:35
  Speaker 1: That's one thing I know how that I'm running up.
• 34:38
  Speaker 1: But women holding me back. Man, I'm sorry that I
• 34:43
  Speaker 1: didn't do what I was supposed to do, and a
• 34:44
  Speaker 1: lot of motherfuckers said what I was in your job?
• 34:46
  Speaker 1: The one you're done. I felt that was my duty.
• 34:48
  Speaker 1: But because I had certain people in my in my
• 34:50
  Speaker 1: ear that I thought had their best interest in me.
• 34:53
  Speaker 1: But when that bag ran out, they left. Yeah, I'm sorry.
• 34:57
  Speaker 1: I'm not a sorry person. I apologize, Okay.
• 35:00
  Speaker 4: I appreciate that, And but listen, I was not. I
• 35:04
  Speaker 4: was talking to a nigga. He moved in months after.
• 35:07
  Speaker 4: You think a nigga was gonna move into a dark house.
• 35:09
  Speaker 4: You think you think I wanted the niggas see how
• 35:11
  Speaker 4: I was living. No, And when you said, I asked you, like, yo,
• 35:14
  Speaker 4: can you just get my my lights on? I'll pay
• 35:17
  Speaker 4: you back. That's when I was scamming and doing all
• 35:19
  Speaker 4: that shit. That shit got slow too, So I'm like,
• 35:21
  Speaker 4: all right, you was like, no, I take my son.
• 35:23
  Speaker 4: Nobody taking my kid, not even as father. Like, as
• 35:26
  Speaker 4: long as Ash was scared of the dark, we was good,
• 35:28
  Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying. Like I still had candles,
• 35:30
  Speaker 4: we was playing, We was doing all that. We would
• 35:32
  Speaker 4: stay outside until it went until it got dark, and
• 35:36
  Speaker 4: then we would go in the house. And him, he
• 35:38
  Speaker 4: ain't never asked me why the lights ain't coming on.
• 35:41
  Speaker 4: It don't matter. So as long as he was good,
• 35:42
  Speaker 4: I was good. I just wanted to be able, you
• 35:45
  Speaker 4: know what I'm saying, and just be like, yo, get my.
• 35:47
  Speaker 1: Life and you should have. Well guess what that made
• 35:50
  Speaker 1: you a demon? And when I say demon, I said,
• 35:53
  Speaker 1: in the best way, that turned you up. And I
• 35:56
  Speaker 1: got to teach my kids, especially my oldest boy, might
• 35:58
  Speaker 1: leve me, yo, bro, Like I don't want you to
• 36:00
  Speaker 1: go through something bad to learn a lesson. I don't
• 36:02
  Speaker 1: think everybody should to go through something bad and learn
• 36:04
  Speaker 1: a lesson, But in your case, I feel like, yeah,
• 36:09
  Speaker 1: and put that battery in your back. You know, when
• 36:12
  Speaker 1: that battery came in your back, you ain't. You ain't
• 36:14
  Speaker 1: treat me no way. It took still a minute for
• 36:17
  Speaker 1: us to create that bond, but y'all have it now.
• 36:21
  Speaker 1: And I think y'all bo should give each other some
• 36:22
  Speaker 1: greades because y'all and I always was a hurt young man.
• 36:26
  Speaker 1: So right, But I love the story.
• 36:28
  Speaker 2: It shows the foundation and how you now and how
• 36:32
  Speaker 2: y'all treat each other.
• 36:32
  Speaker 5: Now.
• 36:33
  Speaker 2: You know, I don't know you, but the way she
• 36:34
  Speaker 2: talks about you on the radio, and like you said,
• 36:37
  Speaker 2: she is a mother, She protects you, she holds you down.
• 36:39
  Speaker 1: I just love to see it. You know, sometimes I'll
• 36:42
  Speaker 1: be telling us stuff talking about room like that.
• 36:43
  Speaker 5: He always didn't like.
• 36:45
  Speaker 1: Why you be talking about But I get it. She
• 36:48
  Speaker 1: don't mean no harm, but she don't like I said,
• 36:52
  Speaker 1: man like I wish a lot of other people but
• 36:57
  Speaker 1: take from us. And that's why this ship to be
• 37:00
  Speaker 1: on TV. That's why y'are writing a book. Yeah, book coming,
• 37:03
  Speaker 1: everything book coming? Yes, everything coming. You think the most
• 37:07
  Speaker 1: important thing?
• 37:08
  Speaker 3: Because I don't want you all to save a lot
• 37:09
  Speaker 3: of this, but what's the most important thing. It takes
• 37:11
  Speaker 3: the cold parent. If y'all you're just leaveing on that
• 37:14
  Speaker 3: because the national core parents to day.
• 37:16
  Speaker 4: Yo, I started off communication like a lot of people
• 37:20
  Speaker 4: be scared to hurt each other feelings and a lot
• 37:23
  Speaker 4: of people be afraid to have uncomfortable conversations, whether it's
• 37:26
  Speaker 4: about kids, unhashed differences whatever. Like one day me and
• 37:33
  Speaker 4: Rome just literally met up and just we just talked
• 37:35
  Speaker 4: about everything that. You know, he felt like I did
• 37:38
  Speaker 4: him wrong in certain situations, and then he felt like
• 37:40
  Speaker 4: like I will always try because he says, I'm controlling
• 37:43
  Speaker 4: a lot, and I do take that, you know what
• 37:45
  Speaker 4: I'm saying, Yeah, I own that. I do like I
• 37:48
  Speaker 4: was trying to control how he parents sometimes, like how
• 37:51
  Speaker 4: how he would raise Ash and all of that type
• 37:53
  Speaker 4: of stuff. We just put everything on the table and
• 37:56
  Speaker 4: just just was like, all right, you're moving forward because
• 37:59
  Speaker 4: it's really about Ash and that's really like when we
• 38:04
  Speaker 4: after that, it was like no looking back, It's like,
• 38:06
  Speaker 4: all right, whatever.
• 38:07
  Speaker 1: Cool. It was just communication, but it takes I think
• 38:10
  Speaker 1: that it's a couple of things, man, communication, feelings out
• 38:14
  Speaker 1: of it, ego out.
• 38:16
  Speaker 5: Of it, ego for sure, and.
• 38:19
  Speaker 1: Just man, both parties, both parties got to be in
• 38:22
  Speaker 1: it though. Man like I feel like you know now,
• 38:24
  Speaker 1: like even at my kids school and ship man like, dang,
• 38:26
  Speaker 1: you should the man And I think that's fucked up
• 38:31
  Speaker 1: kids that your kids school, my children, my own children.
• 38:34
  Speaker 1: I feel like, you know, the father is not a
• 38:37
  Speaker 1: norm so I always been. I ain't. It's not I want.
• 38:41
  Speaker 1: I adn't say a change it norm, but I've changed
• 38:42
  Speaker 1: it on. Like it's me. You ain't got to call
• 38:46
  Speaker 1: the Mather, you know, I didn't Maxim call your father. Yeah,
• 38:50
  Speaker 1: that's me called me. Don't call the others. I'm hands on.
• 38:53
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna be that and my oldest eleven man young,
• 38:57
  Speaker 1: I just sat to school, sat in the class with him.
• 39:00
  Speaker 3: The whole day.
• 39:01
  Speaker 4: They call you, but Ash called me on the side
• 39:05
  Speaker 4: my dad much.
• 39:08
  Speaker 1: But that was the thing too. We had to she
• 39:10
  Speaker 1: had to learn, don't don't, don't try to take the
• 39:13
  Speaker 1: father from the child. Let me father him. Because I
• 39:16
  Speaker 1: refuse for my son to become a statistic I refuse
• 39:19
  Speaker 1: my son to become a young, hurt little boy. I
• 39:21
  Speaker 1: refuse from my son to grow up not knowing how
• 39:23
  Speaker 1: to love a woman. I refuse my son to be
• 39:24
  Speaker 1: so many things that his father was. I'm still young,
• 39:28
  Speaker 1: so I'm still you know, I told, I told Naia early.
• 39:31
  Speaker 1: I said, man, like you know one of my I'm
• 39:32
  Speaker 1: gonna write my right. I'm gonna write my rights to
• 39:34
  Speaker 1: my boys.
• 39:35
  Speaker 3: I got still unlearning, unlearning right direct correct you, unlearning
• 39:39
  Speaker 3: to learn.
• 39:39
  Speaker 1: When this co parents ain't easy man, and I used
• 39:42
  Speaker 1: to be.
• 39:42
  Speaker 5: I used to be hold on him.
• 39:44
  Speaker 4: How he was so hard on my son, like no,
• 39:47
  Speaker 4: like you like's gotta want to talk to you. You got
• 39:50
  Speaker 4: to make him want to talk to you, like he
• 39:53
  Speaker 4: used to like, come and talk to me about things.
• 39:55
  Speaker 5: He was scared to go to.
• 39:56
  Speaker 4: His father about now because it was any abusive relationships anything.
• 39:59
  Speaker 4: It was just like I can't talk today. You know.
• 40:02
  Speaker 1: It was my son problem, and I like to said,
• 40:04
  Speaker 1: I'm creating a young man man. My some problem was
• 40:09
  Speaker 1: he don't like confrontation. Not confrontation, but he don't like
• 40:13
  Speaker 1: to confront a man. You. When I say that me
• 40:17
  Speaker 1: his father, he don't like to And I tell her,
• 40:20
  Speaker 1: I said, bro, you don't like something. You tell me
• 40:22
  Speaker 1: I'm not like my father. Shut the fuck up. Oh
• 40:25
  Speaker 1: I'm your father. No, no, ain't none of that same
• 40:28
  Speaker 1: bron We go to McDonald's and i'd be like, all right,
• 40:30
  Speaker 1: do you six? Oh dad, I don't want that. All right,
• 40:32
  Speaker 1: what you want it's the same concept. I get his
• 40:35
  Speaker 1: head done. Now you want to hair, Oh dad, I
• 40:37
  Speaker 1: don't like that. Tell me. Don't go back and tell
• 40:39
  Speaker 1: your mother. That's why I'm getting mad because he was
• 40:41
  Speaker 1: just with me and I just asked you. He ain't
• 40:43
  Speaker 1: say nothing. You want to communicate. I want to communicate.
• 40:46
  Speaker 1: When you communicate with me, you look me in my
• 40:48
  Speaker 1: eyes and tell me, Dad, I don't want this. You
• 40:50
  Speaker 1: ain't gotta be disrespectful. When you said I want to
• 40:53
  Speaker 1: my baby getting better, but I'm here. So it's like
• 40:57
  Speaker 1: I don't know. Man, it's not hard easy, it's fun.
• 41:01
  Speaker 1: You have to make it, make it a little bit.
• 41:04
  Speaker 1: But it's like, I don't like to do that. It's
• 41:06
  Speaker 1: just man like. I don't know. As a mom is
• 41:08
  Speaker 1: different than when a dad raising. I'm doing everything that
• 41:10
  Speaker 1: I wanted. I wanted my father to come up my squell.
• 41:13
  Speaker 1: I wanted my dad to talk to me. I wanted
• 41:14
  Speaker 1: my dad to ask me what I wanted. I wanted
• 41:17
  Speaker 1: my dad to come to my basketball game, my baseball game.
• 41:19
  Speaker 1: My dad been a one baseball game out of four years,
• 41:22
  Speaker 1: two basketball games out of four years. You got to
• 41:25
  Speaker 1: make sure you're raising your child out of out of level.
• 41:27
  Speaker 1: And I don't want to live here. And that's that
• 41:29
  Speaker 1: I was scared of my father in my mouth. I
• 41:32
  Speaker 1: got big bush, I got a busted whip. Multip All
• 41:35
  Speaker 1: fathers raised this.
• 41:37
  Speaker 3: Multip All fathers raisus how to figure because they didn't
• 41:39
  Speaker 3: want us to end up going down the same path
• 41:41
  Speaker 3: they went down.
• 41:41
  Speaker 1: So we got to figure out how to raise our
• 41:42
  Speaker 1: kids out of love. But you know, if mom's moms
• 41:45
  Speaker 1: get this, and I think I got that, And I
• 41:47
  Speaker 1: told my dad a couple of weeks ago, bro, like
• 41:48
  Speaker 1: you know he because he always come to me with
• 41:50
  Speaker 1: my father. I don't want to hear that ship. I
• 41:52
  Speaker 1: tell I'm a man now. He ain't gonna tell me
• 41:54
  Speaker 1: how the fuck up. I don't want to hear that ship.
• 41:55
  Speaker 1: Your father wasn't farther. He was a provider. I'm a nurturer.
• 41:58
  Speaker 1: I'm my dad father a nurture of my baby. Even
• 42:03
  Speaker 1: your response to your dad is angry because he always
• 42:07
  Speaker 1: My response to my dad is what he's given to me. Now,
• 42:10
  Speaker 1: like I'm a man now. So it's like, bro, I
• 42:12
  Speaker 1: don't have to take that ship. I leave.
• 42:15
  Speaker 5: But he's trying to explain.
• 42:17
  Speaker 1: Trying to explain that they don't just now. He's still
• 42:20
  Speaker 1: ain't figured it out. So it's like you in the
• 42:22
  Speaker 1: room and this meet and be in the room because
• 42:24
  Speaker 1: you know, I don't call you about this type of stuff.
• 42:25
  Speaker 1: But this is me being in the room. It ain't
• 42:28
  Speaker 1: is he. It's a different story. Man. I got somebody
• 42:32
  Speaker 1: you talk to him. I got a therapist, I got
• 42:33
  Speaker 1: a good I got a lot of them. No, no, no,
• 42:36
  Speaker 1: I'm not saying it like that. I'm talking about a
• 42:38
  Speaker 1: real professional, and I got a Yes.
• 42:41
  Speaker 3: I don't want to require what you want I think
• 42:44
  Speaker 3: I got somebody in mind for you.
• 42:45
  Speaker 1: I want woman, you want a woman. I got you.
• 42:47
  Speaker 1: I don't like man, I got you. Yeah, I got you.
• 42:52
  Speaker 1: You know exactly what you talk to. That's cool, man.
• 42:54
  Speaker 1: I'm always open to it. Man, But you know, other
• 42:56
  Speaker 1: than that, like you gotta want it for yourself. And
• 42:58
  Speaker 1: do you you know I've been there, man, Okay, cut back.
• 43:02
  Speaker 1: You know, my biggest thing was just cutting back on
• 43:04
  Speaker 1: the alcohol. Like now I do it for recregation. Thank
• 43:08
  Speaker 1: you for this is recording. Drink coffee. Take a shot now,
• 43:13
  Speaker 1: just drink drink coffee. This is a great conversation.
• 43:18
  Speaker 3: I'm sure it's a discussion that will continue on not
• 43:20
  Speaker 3: even just the monkst you know, just in Rome. But
• 43:21
  Speaker 3: this is a month anybody out there, you're dealing with
• 43:23
  Speaker 3: corporate issue. But I think Rome, you know, Rome is
• 43:26
  Speaker 3: talking to a lot of different issues that a lot
• 43:27
  Speaker 3: of us men go through, you know what I mean.
• 43:29
  Speaker 3: So I'm happy that you was vulnerable this morning.
• 43:32
  Speaker 1: That's right, you know what I mean. And their book
• 43:35
  Speaker 1: is coming soon via a Black privileged published Simon the
• 43:37
  Speaker 1: Shoes all right, well it's wrong. Yes, it's the breakfast
• 43:41
  Speaker 1: Club in the morning. Wake that ass up in the morning.
• 43:44
  Speaker 1: The Breakfast Club