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UU Crew Sesh ft. a Presentation from Nick- Herbs, incense and resins · The Occult Rejects

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  Speaker 2: to hear what Nick's got to offer us today.
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  Speaker 1: Well, it's a delight to have you, thanks for coming.
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  Speaker 4: Hello everyone, thank you for having me. So my name
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  Speaker 4: you for having me and looking forward to hear from
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  Speaker 4: what Nick is going to present today.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, and last but not least, we have cousin Nicholas,
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  Speaker 1: who is doing our presentation today. Nick, tell everyone who
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  Speaker 1: you are.
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  Speaker 5: Thank you very much. Nick from Nicole Rejects podcast you
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  Speaker 5: can find out a bit you rumble YouTube and all
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  Speaker 5: major podcasts today will be covering herbs, resins and incense
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  Speaker 5: and ritual magic and their effects on the body and
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  Speaker 5: mind and the cranial nerves.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm definitely looking forward to.
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  Speaker 5: This and the nervous system.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, without any more delay, Nick, all right.
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  Speaker 2: We haven't had delay yet, have we right?
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  Speaker 5: What we did for a second with Jacqueline all right,
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  Speaker 5: So here we go kick it off. Uh, all right,
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  Speaker 5: So it's herbs, resins and incense and ritual magic and
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  Speaker 5: their effects on the body and mind and the cranial
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  Speaker 5: nerves and the nervous system. For millennia, practitioners of ritual
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  Speaker 5: magic and witchcraft have burned incense and crafted potions for
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  Speaker 5: sacred plants, not only for symbolic reasons, but also to
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  Speaker 5: harness their very real effects on the human body and consciousness.
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  Speaker 5: Art and science recognizes twelve cranial nerves that mediate our
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  Speaker 5: senses smell, sight, taste, hearing, touch, and vital functions. Interestingly,
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  Speaker 5: many traditional ritual herbs engage these same pathways. Aromatic incenses
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  Speaker 5: like frankensense in stage stimulate the olfactory nerves the CN one,
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  Speaker 5: directly influencing the limbic system, the brain's emotional center, to
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  Speaker 5: induce calm or trance. Pungred spices like peppermint and clove
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  Speaker 5: activate the trigeminal nerves CN five, creating sensations of cooling
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  Speaker 5: or numbness. Even infinous witching herbs like mandrake contain alkaloids
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  Speaker 5: affecting their oculomotor nerve CN three, dilating pupils and the
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  Speaker 5: vagus nerve. The CNX is the cn ten slowing the heart. Thus,
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  Speaker 5: the magical effects of these botanicals often have concrete neurological correlates,
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  Speaker 5: and this paper will explore a pantheon of herbs, resins,
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  Speaker 5: and incenses, from common kitchen herbs like rosemary and peppermint
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  Speaker 5: to temple incenses like mer dealing, both detailing both their
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  Speaker 5: traditional magical uses and psychological and psychological physiological sorry effects,
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  Speaker 5: especially on the senses and nerves. Each plant or resin
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  Speaker 5: is discussed separately to highlight its unique virtues. Through this
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  Speaker 5: comprehensive analysis, we see how ritual magic's herbal lore interweaves
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  Speaker 5: spiritual intention in pharmacology, aligning the energy of plants with
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  Speaker 5: tangible sensations inhaling responses. Here is my thesis. In plain terms,
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  Speaker 5: much of what passes for spells in deity contact in
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  Speaker 5: ritual in my opinion, is a finely tuned psychodrama driven
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  Speaker 5: by chemistry and staging. Not God's incense. Just smell isn't
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  Speaker 5: just smell. It's pharmacology routed straight through the olfactory nerve
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  Speaker 5: and trigeminal system into the limbic brain. Lenolol is in
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  Speaker 5: lavender lower's arousal menthol empepperment snaps attention while cooling the
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  Speaker 5: face in sensul acetate and frankincense promotes a warm, antiolotic,
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  Speaker 5: antiolytic calm. Spicy eugenols and turpenes tweak pain and breath, nudging,
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  Speaker 5: vagal tone towards safety, dim lights, chant, rhythm, and expectation.
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  Speaker 5: To do the rest, the body shifts first, slower heart,
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  Speaker 5: looser muscles, easier breath, and the mind backfills a grandiose
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  Speaker 5: story to explain the shift. The story is typically a
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  Speaker 5: presence entered the room and why not? I'm so special
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  Speaker 5: and smart. Under pressure, the psyche prefers agency over accident,
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  Speaker 5: so once the chemicals have softened, anxiety ritual furnishes both
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  Speaker 5: an answer, a belevanant, a benevolent helper, and a villain
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  Speaker 5: a hexer arkhan, a planetary mal effect to absorb blame
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  Speaker 5: for we can't fix or when comprehension stings or is
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  Speaker 5: at a loss completely, the relief you feel becomes proof
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  Speaker 5: the helper is real, and so are the delusions. This
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  Speaker 5: is the exact point when the so called magician becomes
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  Speaker 5: a slave to the gods and to the terrified mind
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  Speaker 5: that has constructed to bring on ease and relief, typically
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  Speaker 5: in a lie. In my view, most witches and magicians
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  Speaker 5: are running this loop far more often than they are
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  Speaker 5: contacting anything external, and even far less of the internal.
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  Speaker 5: By the time you have finished reading this or listening
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  Speaker 5: to this, Scott Cunningham's books on herbs should look like
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  Speaker 5: Doctor Seuss to any serious alchemist magician in occultists. Now
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  Speaker 5: I will continue on to lavender. Lavender. Lavender is cherished
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  Speaker 5: and magic for its ability to bring peace, clarity, and healing.
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  Speaker 5: It is often used in spells to comtensions, attract gentle love,
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  Speaker 5: and provide psychic protection. In witchcraft editions, lavender is associated
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  Speaker 5: with spiritual purification and the third Eye tracker. Its sweet
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  Speaker 5: aroma helps clear the mind, enhance into a division, and
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  Speaker 5: invite RESTful sleep. Healers burn a lavender or use its
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  Speaker 5: oil to cleanse a space of negative vibes and to
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  Speaker 5: lift the spirits with loving Venusian energy. Folklore notes lavender's
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  Speaker 5: power to protect against the evil eye and to soothe
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  Speaker 5: heartbreak or grief. Dry lavender blossoms are added to sassays
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  Speaker 5: for love and tranquility, and its common ingredient in dream
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  Speaker 5: pillows to prevent nightmare. In short, lavender's magical correspondence spans
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  Speaker 5: from love to romance, to protection and peace. The relaxing
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  Speaker 5: reputation of lavender has a well established biochemical basis. Its
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  Speaker 5: essential oil is rich in linelol and linylyl acetate, which
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  Speaker 5: have sedative, aiolytic, anxiety reducing effects on the nervous system. Inhandling,
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  Speaker 5: lavender engages the ol factory nerve, the CN one, and
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  Speaker 5: directly influences brain regions governing stress. Medical studies show that
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  Speaker 5: lavender's aroma enhances GABBA new transmission, which quiets the central
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  Speaker 5: nervous system, much like like anti anxiety medications, but gentler.
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  Speaker 5: This GABBA modulating effect explains why lavender oil can improve
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  Speaker 5: sweet sleep quality and even compared to low dose tranquilizers
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  Speaker 5: and efficacy. Clinically, a specific lavender extract known as silxin
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  Speaker 5: has been shown to reduce anxiety and promote deep slow
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  Speaker 5: wave sleep without sedation. Additionally, lavender scent lower's heart rate
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  Speaker 5: and blood pressure via the vaguus nerve, inducing a state
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  Speaker 5: of paris and para sympathetic calm. Some hospitals now use
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  Speaker 5: lavender romatherapy for patients as reliably as it reliably reduces
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  Speaker 5: agitation and improves moved. Thus, when a witch burns lavender
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  Speaker 5: sprague is to concentrate a ritual or anoints yourself with
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  Speaker 5: lavender oil before meditation, there is a dual action. Spiritually,
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  Speaker 5: it purifies and uplifts physically. It actually quiets the mind
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  Speaker 5: and calms the cranial nerves, preparing one for focused intent
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  Speaker 5: we wonder. Lavender has been called Nature's tranquilizer. By soothing
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  Speaker 5: frazzled nerves and easing anxiety, lavender creates an ideal mental
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  Speaker 5: state for prayer, healing work, or drift into prophetic dreams.
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  Speaker 5: I don't know if anybody wants to add to that.
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  Speaker 5: Before I go to the next one, we'll do it
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  Speaker 5: like that, So I'll just keep running my mouth.
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  Speaker 1: I think I just wanted to make a comment on
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  Speaker 1: your on your thesis statement, and I was.
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  Speaker 5: A little rough, but I mean that's how I see
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  Speaker 5: a lot of.
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  Speaker 1: This stuff that's fair. I actually want to agree with you.
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  Speaker 1: I think most of that stuff is it's implied, and
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  Speaker 1: therefore like it's implied, and people take it on as
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  Speaker 1: though it's something that is more concrete than it really is,
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  Speaker 1: Like it's a you know, power suggestion more than anything
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  Speaker 1: in my opinion, like Okay, it smells nice or this,
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  Speaker 1: you know, but they don't specifically, just smelling something doesn't
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  Speaker 1: change a physical state or a mental state inside like
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  Speaker 1: chemically inside your brain in my opinion, unless you're smelling
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  Speaker 1: something that is, you know, a toxin.
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  Speaker 6: Right.
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  Speaker 5: So yeah, well you step in dog shit, that might
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  Speaker 5: change your fucking attitude.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's going to ruin your day a little bit,
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  Speaker 1: I believe. Yeah, But yeah, I think in maybe to
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  Speaker 1: a very small degree, because it alters your state of
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  Speaker 1: mind because you're allowing it to or you're convinced that
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  Speaker 1: it is doing so it has you know, it does
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  Speaker 1: have some slight effect, but it doesn't actually alter or
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  Speaker 1: change anything at like a molecular level, you know. So
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  Speaker 1: I would agree with that statement.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, anyway, started, I like that you started with you
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  Speaker 2: want to agree, you know, I want to agree as well.
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  Speaker 2: I can't wait to hear where you go with it.
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  Speaker 2: You know, I'm always going to lean towards absolutely everything
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  Speaker 2: that we interpret as physical has its echo and correlation
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  Speaker 2: in spiritual right, that's all. It's like, you know, I
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  Speaker 2: feel the need to always temper that premise with that,
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  Speaker 2: you know, And that's all.
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  Speaker 1: Well, I would add, probably unbeknownst to most people here,
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  Speaker 1: I'm actually in Canada registered herbalists. So I would say that,
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  Speaker 1: aside from ingesting or directly applying, as the cases needed,
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  Speaker 1: from herb to herber, concoction to concoction, just inhaling something
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  Speaker 1: does not have a significant effect, if any like, it's
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  Speaker 1: only psychological to the effect that you allow it to be.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, your consciousness. It can alter your consciousness. So if
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  Speaker 2: we call it sense memory, right, if I smell lavender
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  Speaker 2: and that takes me back to third grade when I
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  Speaker 2: first right, my level of consciousness goes somewhere, I travel
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  Speaker 2: back to that place, I could literally sense it, right.
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  Speaker 1: So yeah, well the old factory is definitely connecting to memory.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, So that's all. If lavender is as
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  Speaker 2: you say, Nick, for prepare for focused intention, right, Okay, Well,
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  Speaker 2: I'm looking for a consciousness shift if I'm looking for
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  Speaker 2: my focused intention. So if I'm using it, you know,
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  Speaker 2: where is the correlation?
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  Speaker 4: You know?
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  Speaker 2: Is an interesting question, but I think it boils down
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  Speaker 2: to your consciousness and your experience, right.
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  Speaker 5: I think a lot of the feelings people get from
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  Speaker 5: these when they're in putting themselves into a ritual or
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  Speaker 5: spell or whatever is making them think something's actually happening.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, but you can consider it a form of alchemy because.
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  Speaker 5: You are well. Yeah, I mean I burn a piece
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  Speaker 5: of trash. I created alchemy. There's smoke in the end though,
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  Speaker 5: sures like India.
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  Speaker 2: Now.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, but if you inhale Erwin, it will have an
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  Speaker 4: effect on you. It all depend on what you are in. Haley.
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  Speaker 5: Well, that's what I'm getting at. And most of these
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  Speaker 5: things have effects, all right, So anything else, I don't know.
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  Speaker 4: You get to hear the rest, all right.
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  Speaker 5: So ginger, that's the next one. Ginger root is beloved
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  Speaker 5: ingredient and folk magic, renown for its fiery speed up energy.
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  Speaker 5: In many traditions, ginger is considered a powerful magical catalyst.
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  Speaker 5: I remember that, but from back in the day, it
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  Speaker 5: was like, oh, just torst ginger and anything, and it
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  Speaker 5: makes it stronger spell. It is added to spells to
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  Speaker 5: amplify their effect and to bring faster results. Roots, natural warmth,
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  Speaker 5: and spice correspond to the element of fire and the
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  Speaker 5: planet Mars, symbolizing courage, passion, and move which is used
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  Speaker 5: ginger and workings for prosperity and success, for example, sprinking, sprinkling,
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  Speaker 5: powdered ginger, and money drawing charm bags because its energy
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  Speaker 5: attracts wealth and abundance quickly. Likewise and love magic, Ginger's
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  Speaker 5: heat is employed to spark or intensive passion. A bit
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  Speaker 5: of ginger and a love oil or potion is believed
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  Speaker 5: to attract romance and stimulate desire. Ginger is also used
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  Speaker 5: for protection. Burning ginger or carrying a piece can ward
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  Speaker 5: off negativity and evil, creating a protective fiery barrier around
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  Speaker 5: the practitioner. Some Hudu traditions annoy candles with ginger or
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  Speaker 5: eat a sliver of ginger before spell work to empower
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  Speaker 5: their personal aura, essentially to increase one's own magical potency
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  Speaker 5: and courage. As some modern occultist source notes, ginger's magical
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  Speaker 5: properties includes amplification, attraction, love, courage, strength and mars, prosperity, protection,
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  Speaker 5: and healing. In simple terms, ginger puts more heat into
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  Speaker 5: any spell, accelerating its workings and boildening the spellcaster. Medieval
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  Speaker 5: magicians even associated ginger with the fiery breadth of the dragon,
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  Speaker 5: a fitting image for its ability to energize and add
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  Speaker 5: bite to rituals. The neural and physiological effects Ginger's fiery
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  Speaker 5: magic is mere and its tangible effects on the body's
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  Speaker 5: nerves and circulation. When you ingest ginger or even smell
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  Speaker 5: its sharp aroma, it activates the trigeminal nerve endings responsible
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  Speaker 5: for sensing spice and heat. The phenolic phenolic compounds like
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  Speaker 5: ginger role and ginger cause that warm, tingling zing on
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  Speaker 5: the tongue trigeminal stimulation similar to chili peppers. Though mild,
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  Speaker 5: The stimulation triggers the release of endorphins and increased blood flow,
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  Speaker 5: producing a gentle, whole body warming and energizing effect. Indeed,
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  Speaker 5: an herbal medicine, ginger is known as a circular circulatory
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  Speaker 5: stimulant and digestive fire kindler. Ginger's impact on the vagus
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  Speaker 5: nerve is also notable. It ags digestion by promoting vaginal
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  Speaker 5: facal tone in the gut, which is why ginger tea
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  Speaker 5: relieves nausea and stomach upset. Neurologically, ginger may enhance cognitive
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  Speaker 5: function by modestly boosting metabolism. And blood supply to the
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  Speaker 5: Some studies suggest ginger can improve attention and memory in
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  Speaker 5: middle aged women, for example, likely due to its antioxidant
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  Speaker 5: and anti inflammatory effects. At minimum, Ginger' zesty scent is
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  Speaker 5: invigorating to the senses. In aromatherapy tests, gings aroma tends
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  Speaker 5: to increase alertness and enhance reaction times. It even influences
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  Speaker 5: pain pathways. Gingerole and related compounds can be combined to
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  Speaker 5: pain receptors, which is partly why ginger alleviates muscle pain
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  Speaker 5: and headaches a bit like in natural pain come. In short,
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  Speaker 5: ginger warms up the nervous system. It literally makes our
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  Speaker 5: skin feel hot and our heart pump faster, and in
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  Speaker 5: magical terms, this translates to an increase in personal energy
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  Speaker 5: and will. Next time a practitioner choose on ginger or
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  Speaker 5: drinks ginger tea before ritual, they are not only following
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  Speaker 5: folklore to increase magical power, they are also raising their
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  Speaker 5: bodies metabolic and neural activity, entering the spell with heightened
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  Speaker 5: vigor and focus. This fiery stimulation of nerves and blood,
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  Speaker 5: but it is the perfect complement to Ginger's mars like
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  Speaker 5: magical persona as the herb of courage in swift action.
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  Speaker 5: Next to have peppermint, fambody will sent well, okay, all
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  Speaker 5: right peppermint. Peppermin's bright, crisp energy has made it as
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  Speaker 5: staple in witchcraft for cleansing, healing, and mental clarity. In magic,
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  Speaker 5: peppermint and mints generally are often used to purify a
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  Speaker 5: space or one's or, for example by sprinkling mint leaves
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  Speaker 5: in bath water or burning peppermint incense to dispel negative vibrations.
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  Speaker 5: This refreshing scent is believed to increase the vibrations of
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  Speaker 5: an area, driving away low or harmful energies and inviting positivity.
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  Speaker 5: Peppermint is also strongly tied to psychic powers and alertness.
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  Speaker 5: Many practitioners will inhale peppermint oil or keep any keep
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  Speaker 5: a peppermint plant on the altar to sharpen their mind
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  Speaker 5: before divination. As one herbal compendium notes, peppermints magical properties
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  Speaker 5: are associated with heat, feeling, purification, psychic powers, sleep, and love.
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  Speaker 5: It is said to enhance third eye awareness and even
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  Speaker 5: induce prophetic dreams when placed under a pillow. For this reason,
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  Speaker 5: peppermint is a common ingredient in dream pillows. Alongside lavender
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  Speaker 5: and mugwork and whodo. Peppermint sometimes cold mint leaves is
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  Speaker 5: used in mojo bags for financial success and good luck.
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  Speaker 5: Owing to its reputation for attracting positive, high vibration influences,
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  Speaker 5: peppermint can also be employed in healing spells. It's soothing
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  Speaker 5: cooling that nature symbolically cools, fevers, tempers anger, and relieves
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  Speaker 5: emotional pain. Placing fresh peppermint around the home is even
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  Speaker 5: thought to invite friendly spirits and ward or malicious ones. Overall,
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  Speaker 5: peppermint's magic is one of upliftment and protection. It clears
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  Speaker 5: away negativity, awakens the mind, and surrounds one with invigorating,
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  Speaker 5: healthy or no wonder folks. No wonder folks saying claim
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  Speaker 5: No wonder folks sayings claim that thriving peppermint in one's
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  Speaker 5: garden brings peace to the household an abundance to the wallet.
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  Speaker 5: Modern science confirms peppermint's remarkable effect on both mind and body,
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  Speaker 5: especially through its impact on our sensory nerves. The cooling
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  Speaker 5: menthol and peppermint directly activates the trigeminal nerve endings and
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  Speaker 5: mucous membranes. When you apply peppermint oil or inhale its vapor.
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  Speaker 5: Menthol binds to thr PM eight receptors, fooling the nerves
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  Speaker 5: into sensing coal. This creates that distinct cooling, refreshing sensation
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  Speaker 5: in the sinuses and on the skin. The trigeminal activation
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  Speaker 5: by menthol has system has systemic consequences. You can relieve
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  Speaker 5: tension headaches by desensitizing pain fibers. Hence, peppermint oil rubbed
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  Speaker 5: on the temples eases headache pain as the menthol num
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  Speaker 5: trigeminal nerve reduces headache sensation. Peppermint scent also has a
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  Speaker 5: strong cognitive effect. Controlled studies have shown that peppermint aroma
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  Speaker 5: enhances memory and increases alertness in test subjects. One study,
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  Speaker 5: people working in a peppermint scented environment had better performance
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  Speaker 5: on memory recall and felt more awake than those in
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  Speaker 5: unscented or line length scented rooms. Wherever say that one
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  Speaker 5: this aligns with traditional uses. Students in ah and Greece
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  Speaker 5: wore sprigs of mint to stay sharp during exams. Peppermint
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  Speaker 5: additionally clears the respiratory passages. Its mental stimulates cold receptors
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  Speaker 5: in the nose and lungs, leading to a feeling of
• 21:31
  Speaker 5: clear breathing and even causing a reflex dilation of ronchial passages.
• 21:37
  Speaker 5: This is partly why peppermint is used for colds and congestion.
• 21:40
  Speaker 5: Through the ol factory nerves and trigeminal pathways, peppermint directly
• 21:43
  Speaker 5: impacts the olympic system and a reticular activating system, leading
• 21:49
  Speaker 5: to an awake but calm mental state. One fascinating study
• 21:53
  Speaker 5: found that prolonged low level exposure to peppermint aroma improved
• 21:57
  Speaker 5: participants concentration and reduced mental fatigue, and in drivers, sniffing
• 22:03
  Speaker 5: peppermint was shown to decrease frustration and increase alertness, potentially
• 22:09
  Speaker 5: reducing aggressive driving. On the digestive front, peppermint's effect on
• 22:13
  Speaker 5: the vagus nerve is notable. It relaxes the gastro intestinal
• 22:16
  Speaker 5: smooth muscle smooth muscle dea anti spasmodic action, alleviating an
• 22:22
  Speaker 5: indigestion and nausea. This fagile soothing can translate to an
• 22:27
  Speaker 5: overall relaxation response in the body. In summary, peppermint activates
• 22:31
  Speaker 5: and soothes simultaneously. It clears your head, heightens your senses,
• 22:36
  Speaker 5: yet also eases pain. And tention. The dual action perfectly
• 22:39
  Speaker 5: mirrors its magical profile. It clears away negativity and enhances
• 22:43
  Speaker 5: psychic clarity, while also promoting healing in OLM. When a
• 22:47
  Speaker 5: witch burns peppermint during a ritual for focus or places
• 22:50
  Speaker 5: mint in a charm forul luck, they are unknowingly engaging
• 22:53
  Speaker 5: the very nerves that heighten focus in improved mood. The
• 22:56
  Speaker 5: scientific verdict aligns with the magical lore. Peppermint true is
• 23:00
  Speaker 5: an herb to refresh the spirit and invigorate the mind.
• 23:05
  Speaker 5: Then I'll go on tomorrow. Unhist anybody has anything.
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: I would say, I would say, of of all the herbs,
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: probably peppermint is the one that does actually have an
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: effect upon inhalation almost instantaneously, And there's lots of studies
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: that back that up. Like it's the same reason. Remember
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: when you're a kid, like campher based products like have
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: the same sort of effect, like your mom will put
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: the vix on your chest.
• 23:30
  Speaker 2: So like it hit away.
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, it's the same, like the same thing. It's
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: it opens up the bronchio dialates and opens up the air.
• 23:41
  Speaker 5: Their school memories, man, yeah.
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: Yeah, put a little bit underneath you those you can breathe. Yeah,
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: and for sure, there's been lots of lots of studies
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: that indicate that it does have an effect for people
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: who suffer migraines or like even people that with you know,
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: I cute headaches. Like it's not as though it's oh,
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: they're curing all these things are taking away the pain completely,
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: but it does ease the severity for sure.
• 24:10
  Speaker 6: That's exactly what I was gonna say, Jacqueline, because you know,
• 24:13
  Speaker 6: and most of y'all know, I have really bad chronic migraines.
• 24:16
  Speaker 6: At some point I'm gonna have to like cancel or
• 24:19
  Speaker 6: whatever because of a migraine. I mean, it's just completely debilitating.
• 24:23
  Speaker 6: But peppermint is one of the things that I use,
• 24:27
  Speaker 6: and I use that more than any other herb. It's
• 24:30
  Speaker 6: peppermint because it helps more than anything else. I mean,
• 24:34
  Speaker 6: it's kind of like Shaman was saying about part of
• 24:37
  Speaker 6: it being your memories and your consciousness, like you were saying,
• 24:41
  Speaker 6: your mom coming in and putting the vis on you
• 24:43
  Speaker 6: when you're sick. Part of that is consciousness, but part
• 24:47
  Speaker 6: of that is actually physical. It works, it helps alleviate
• 24:51
  Speaker 6: symptoms of pain, and I can personally vouch for that one,
• 24:54
  Speaker 6: so yeah.
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: Like it's short lived. The effect is short lived, so
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: it's something that you have to continuously apply or like
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: I've seen like those little inhalers that you can just
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: stick it in your nose like and they actually sell
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: the vix ones like that too. But I yeah, I've
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: bought from a practitioner, like especially prepared one that had peppermint.
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: You can get spearmint also, but that's a little less effective.
• 25:22
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think ginger has I mean, I'm gonna not
• 25:27
  Speaker 2: argue with you here, but it's add ginger to the
• 25:29
  Speaker 2: list of when you inhale it. So I'll use ginger
• 25:32
  Speaker 2: for I see, Nick Coffinker reminds me lungs, right, anytime
• 25:35
  Speaker 2: I have an issue with my lungs, I'll just chunk
• 25:38
  Speaker 2: up ginger and boil it right and make that tea
• 25:40
  Speaker 2: and drink it instantaneously. You mentioned bronchio dilate right instantaneously. Man,
• 25:45
  Speaker 2: you can feel the lungs open, right, So I started
• 25:48
  Speaker 2: just putting my head over with a towel and inhale it,
• 25:50
  Speaker 2: and the aroma will have the same effect as you
• 25:53
  Speaker 2: say warming. You can feel the blood warm, you know,
• 25:55
  Speaker 2: you can feel the lungs sort of bronchio dilate. Maybe
• 25:59
  Speaker 2: it's consciousness, but I didn't do that as a kid,
• 26:01
  Speaker 2: so you know it's me wanting it to work, or
• 26:04
  Speaker 2: it does have that effect.
• 26:05
  Speaker 4: Indeed, well, in since medieval times in Iberia they use
• 26:11
  Speaker 4: ilka lip cliffs, so they put it into water a
• 26:15
  Speaker 4: towel above it, and they breath into it, and it
• 26:18
  Speaker 4: was considered actual medicine until like the nineteenth century for
• 26:24
  Speaker 4: respiratory problems.
• 26:25
  Speaker 5: So now that's interesting. It makes me think about like
• 26:29
  Speaker 5: like if you ever got to like like a massage place,
• 26:32
  Speaker 5: or like you go on our vacation or what to
• 26:33
  Speaker 5: a result, they always give you those towels that smell
• 26:35
  Speaker 5: like that shit.
• 26:37
  Speaker 4: Yeah, but my fascination with all of what you're saying
• 26:41
  Speaker 4: is who found out all about this? Who tested all
• 26:46
  Speaker 4: of these herbs right to get their results and document them?
• 26:51
  Speaker 4: So because it didn't it didn't happen by well it
• 26:55
  Speaker 4: might have happened by accident by the person that is
• 26:58
  Speaker 4: testing them, but it's not something that they're joe with,
• 27:01
  Speaker 4: Oh I have this problem, let me grab some peppermintons
• 27:04
  Speaker 4: like saying, let me get some butter and put it
• 27:06
  Speaker 4: in my nose and see if it works right, it's
• 27:10
  Speaker 4: it's it's yeah. So it's if someone someone had.
• 27:15
  Speaker 2: To come up with that. True, there was scientific research,
• 27:20
  Speaker 2: you know. I mean oftentimes we call shaman or whatever,
• 27:23
  Speaker 2: but you know, it's whatever it whatever you call it,
• 27:25
  Speaker 2: it's the person that's out there over generations, you know.
• 27:30
  Speaker 5: Like, oh, if I stick this up, my ass will
• 27:31
  Speaker 5: work better. Yeah. Well look, look I was a repository
• 27:34
  Speaker 5: who came up with that.
• 27:36
  Speaker 4: I was probably six or seven years old and gone
• 27:39
  Speaker 4: to a physician office for some reason I can't remember.
• 27:43
  Speaker 4: And there is this poster on the wall speaking about
• 27:46
  Speaker 4: this Chinese guy in in BC Times that tried ten
• 27:51
  Speaker 4: thousand herbs on itself and documented.
• 27:54
  Speaker 5: There was about that.
• 27:55
  Speaker 4: I've heard about it, but I looked for it on
• 27:58
  Speaker 4: online and it doesn't appear. Only thing appears is this
• 28:01
  Speaker 4: huge chin that in the fourteen fifteen hundreds tested the
• 28:06
  Speaker 4: eleven hundred herbs and documented them. And he was a
• 28:10
  Speaker 4: physician for the Ming dynasty. So but the other guy,
• 28:15
  Speaker 4: I never, I never, I never found it. But someone
• 28:17
  Speaker 4: has to do it. And this guy was supposedly on
• 28:20
  Speaker 4: a cave testing all of these herbs and just documented.
• 28:22
  Speaker 4: So it's it's I don't know how he survived all
• 28:25
  Speaker 4: of that being alone and documented that.
• 28:28
  Speaker 2: But curiosity did not kill the cat.
• 28:32
  Speaker 4: But it did result in this.
• 28:34
  Speaker 2: It did result in this stick of ginger up my
• 28:37
  Speaker 2: bumb so it's burning.
• 28:43
  Speaker 4: I'm breathing better. I cannot sit down, but I'm breathing
• 28:46
  Speaker 4: much better.
• 28:50
  Speaker 2: Really opened things up for me there, Yeah, about my
• 28:54
  Speaker 2: water out my nose.
• 28:55
  Speaker 5: I made the mistake by putting cinnamon oil into a
• 28:57
  Speaker 5: ritual bath.
• 28:58
  Speaker 6: Do not do that, Oh God that you fire.
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: Yeah, very spicy, very very spicy.
• 29:10
  Speaker 6: Live and learn.
• 29:12
  Speaker 5: That should hurt. All right, shake the next one. I
• 29:18
  Speaker 5: left Frankenson's out, unfortunately, just because the time, but I
• 29:22
  Speaker 5: will be covered.
• 29:23
  Speaker 2: I hate Frankinson's next cinnamon.
• 29:27
  Speaker 1: But why do you hate Frankinson, Sarah?
• 29:31
  Speaker 5: Why do you hate?
• 29:34
  Speaker 6: I don't want to say, because it's my favorite. I
• 29:37
  Speaker 6: don't want to get canceled. Okay, it smells like a
• 29:44
  Speaker 6: gas station. Okay, I'm sorry. I can see that. I'm sorry.
• 29:48
  Speaker 6: I'm so sorry.
• 29:52
  Speaker 5: Okay, all right, so we'll go on tomorrow. No Frankencense,
• 29:55
  Speaker 5: fuck Frankinsons.
• 29:57
  Speaker 2: Okay, frank did not make any sense. No, I don't
• 30:02
  Speaker 2: know how he smelled like a gas station. But we'll
• 30:05
  Speaker 2: just roll forward. There's a backstory there, Sarah. I think
• 30:10
  Speaker 2: it's itching, you know.
• 30:11
  Speaker 5: I'm fucked up and I got it, or that I'm
• 30:13
  Speaker 5: just totally not getting that either. I don't know. Murr
• 30:18
  Speaker 5: is the bitter sweet sister of frankensince off impaired together
• 30:23
  Speaker 5: in incense blends for church rituals and spells and magic.
• 30:27
  Speaker 5: Murr is associated with the divine Feminine, the Great Mother,
• 30:30
  Speaker 5: with rights of purification and consecration. Ancient Egyptians used murr
• 30:34
  Speaker 5: in written balming and funeral ceremonies, so it became linked
• 30:37
  Speaker 5: to honoring the dead and the journey of the soul.
• 30:41
  Speaker 5: Burning mur is thought to elevate vibrations, aid meditation and
• 30:45
  Speaker 5: forced a healing and wisdom burns. Before ritual, murr rids
• 30:49
  Speaker 5: the area of negative vibrations. It helps cultivate wisdom and
• 30:53
  Speaker 5: self healing. Indeed, murr is commonly included in incense to
• 30:57
  Speaker 5: cleanse a sacred place or to bless and anoint altars.
• 31:00
  Speaker 5: Biblical lore, muhr was one of the gifts to the
• 31:04
  Speaker 5: Christ Child, foreshadowing his death. It was used at his burial. Hence,
• 31:09
  Speaker 5: muhr symbolizes sacrifice, suffering, and also spiritual immortality. Protection is
• 31:14
  Speaker 5: another key of the magical properties. Murr's smoke drives out
• 31:19
  Speaker 5: evil influences and is said to guard the soul of
• 31:21
  Speaker 5: one who carries it. In medieval Europe, Muhr was hung
• 31:24
  Speaker 5: in sachets to prevent hauntings or psychic attacks. Murr is
• 31:29
  Speaker 5: also sacred to the goddess Isis Mary and Venus. In
• 31:33
  Speaker 5: her sorrowful aspect, it represents the bitter tears of the goddess.
• 31:38
  Speaker 5: In witchcraft, Murr can be burned to communicate with the
• 31:40
  Speaker 5: dead or as an offering when working with ancestors, as
• 31:44
  Speaker 5: its vibration is believed to bridge living in the spirit. Notably,
• 31:49
  Speaker 5: the Greek magical papyri or the PGM, include recipes where
• 31:52
  Speaker 5: Muhr is burned to invoke love or attraction. One PGM
• 31:56
  Speaker 5: spell instructs chanting a lover's name over burning Murr to
• 31:59
  Speaker 5: en flame her with love. Thus beyond somber uses, Murr
• 32:04
  Speaker 5: also figures in love and healing spells as a catalyst
• 32:07
  Speaker 5: to open the heart by releasing past pain. Overall, Murr's
• 32:11
  Speaker 5: magical identity is complex. It purifies and protects like Frankensnse,
• 32:16
  Speaker 5: but with a more introspective underworld quality forstering meditation in
• 32:20
  Speaker 5: a healing and a safe passage through grief or spiritual trials.
• 32:24
  Speaker 5: It's often said that frankensense is the light and Murr
• 32:27
  Speaker 5: is the dark, complementary resins balancing each other in sense
• 32:31
  Speaker 5: of power. Now the neural, neural and physiological effects Murr's
• 32:37
  Speaker 5: resinous smoke like Franklin sense, FRANKENSNSE has notable effects on
• 32:40
  Speaker 5: the body's senses and nervous system. Chemically, BURR contains compounds
• 32:46
  Speaker 5: such as this word I'll spell it out f U
• 32:50
  Speaker 5: r A n O s E s q u I
• 32:54
  Speaker 5: t e r p n O I d S I
• 32:59
  Speaker 5: don't know what that is, some kind of penoids and
• 33:03
  Speaker 5: and also but.
• 33:04
  Speaker 4: We want to hear you say.
• 33:09
  Speaker 2: To be used in a sentence.
• 33:15
  Speaker 5: And the cess square terpene alcohols that give it a
• 33:20
  Speaker 5: stringent and anti microbio properties. The nervous system is mildly
• 33:27
  Speaker 5: sedative and uh, you know, helps with pain. In tradition, medicine,
• 33:31
  Speaker 5: mirror resin was applied to wounds to numb pain and
• 33:33
  Speaker 5: prevent infection. Modern analysis shows MURR and activate opioid receptors
• 33:38
  Speaker 5: in mouse brains hinting at a pain relief mechanism. This
• 33:42
  Speaker 5: could relate to its effect on the trigeminal nerve pain
• 33:45
  Speaker 5: fibers in wounds, perhaps why it sues tuesthaches when applied
• 33:48
  Speaker 5: to gums. In fact, aromatherapy inhaling, mr oils tend to
• 33:52
  Speaker 5: have a grounding, centering effect. Some describe it as a
• 33:56
  Speaker 5: calming the nerves, but focusing the mind likely engages olfactory pathways.
• 34:01
  Speaker 5: Similarly to frankincense, Murr's aroma is earthier and more melancholic.
• 34:06
  Speaker 5: Some researchers suggest Murr's scent can reduce heart rate and
• 34:10
  Speaker 5: blood pressures slightly, indicating parasympathetic vagial activation. Interestingly, why frankinsense
• 34:18
  Speaker 5: insul acetate causes euphoria, Murr's sesquid quidterpenes or whatever may
• 34:25
  Speaker 5: cause a more introspective mood, not depression, but a thoughtful
• 34:29
  Speaker 5: calm On a sensory note, burning mr produces a somewhat
• 34:33
  Speaker 5: bitter medicinal aroma. The bitterness on the tongue and nose
• 34:37
  Speaker 5: can stimulate the gluscle pharyngeal nervesx CN four and trigeminal nerves,
• 34:45
  Speaker 5: causing a mild expert expectoration and tightening of mucous membranes. Hence,
• 34:52
  Speaker 5: it dries the air. This estrigency is associated with clearing congestion. Indeed,
• 34:57
  Speaker 5: MURR tincture helps dry up excess mucous in chitis. Meanwhile,
• 35:01
  Speaker 5: Murr's influence on brain ways has not been studied as
• 35:05
  Speaker 5: studies as much as Frankensnse. Fran Consense actually was a
• 35:09
  Speaker 5: lot more detailed, but many mediators report that combining the
• 35:12
  Speaker 5: two resins yield a deeper meditative state than either alone.
• 35:17
  Speaker 5: It may be that mur complements frank concense by prolonging
• 35:20
  Speaker 5: the calming alpha brain waves after initial relax relaxation. In effect,
• 35:26
  Speaker 5: Frankensnse lifts the mood and Muhr grounds and centers it,
• 35:29
  Speaker 5: preventing the mind from wandering. In the ritual context, when
• 35:33
  Speaker 5: Muhr is burned, the participants often describe feeling solemn or reverent.
• 35:38
  Speaker 5: This is likely a mix of psychological expectation and genuine
• 35:42
  Speaker 5: mirror physiology. Slower breathing lower to arousal. Moreover, the combination
• 35:48
  Speaker 5: of Frankensense and Murr has been found to have a
• 35:50
  Speaker 5: synergistic anti microbial effects, literally cleansing the air of bacteria,
• 35:57
  Speaker 5: which could translate to easier breathing and a subtle relief
• 36:00
  Speaker 5: of physiological stress. Summing up, MRR has a quieting, healing
• 36:04
  Speaker 5: touch on the nerves, does not bless one with stimulation. Rather,
• 36:08
  Speaker 5: it just gently gently does and encourages introspection and magical thinking.
• 36:14
  Speaker 5: This equates to inner purification. MURR helps numb the pain
• 36:17
  Speaker 5: of old wounds, physical or emotional, allowing one to process
• 36:21
  Speaker 5: and release trauma. Hence it's used to heal personal sorrow.
• 36:24
  Speaker 5: It's a fine example of a plant whose bitter medicine ensues,
• 36:28
  Speaker 5: bridging the gap between physiological and spiritual cleansing of one's being.
• 36:34
  Speaker 5: Everybody wants to add anything to MR.
• 36:36
  Speaker 4: I just want to ask you as a practitioner, I
• 36:40
  Speaker 4: understand the physiological effects and their study, but who and
• 36:46
  Speaker 4: when or why? It's more easy Perhaps they started to
• 36:50
  Speaker 4: apply that to a spell when it's not a physiological
• 36:54
  Speaker 4: or a psychological effect, but it's an practical effect at distance.
• 37:00
  Speaker 4: So it is the symbology of the Arab itself that
• 37:04
  Speaker 4: then is applied to a magical practice or a magical
• 37:07
  Speaker 4: ritual or how how do you see that coming to
• 37:11
  Speaker 4: be the use of certain plans for magical rituals when
• 37:15
  Speaker 4: they are not implied to create a physical or psychological effect,
• 37:19
  Speaker 4: but to create some effect from practical magical effect at
• 37:23
  Speaker 4: distance to someone or something.
• 37:27
  Speaker 5: Uh my opinion, I think when it comes to magic,
• 37:33
  Speaker 5: I think it all applies to oneself, and I do
• 37:38
  Speaker 5: think at some point, I mean, this is something I've
• 37:40
  Speaker 5: even gone on about in my own shows. We're going
• 37:43
  Speaker 5: back to the sixteen hundreds to seventeen hundreds. You have
• 37:45
  Speaker 5: people drawing more just as detailed pictures of the brain
• 37:48
  Speaker 5: and the eyeballs and books that we see with microscopes. Now.
• 37:52
  Speaker 5: I think they understood science in the past. I think
• 37:55
  Speaker 5: they have understood it for a long long time. And
• 37:58
  Speaker 5: I think most of these things are actually suppo to
• 38:00
  Speaker 5: be used on oneself to help them honestly ride the
• 38:03
  Speaker 5: lightning to have a magical experience. That's why I think
• 38:06
  Speaker 5: a lot of them even help with breathing, to help
• 38:08
  Speaker 5: with the anxiety, with the fear behind of what you're doing,
• 38:10
  Speaker 5: to calm you down. I think an actual ritual to
• 38:14
  Speaker 5: actually have a magical experience, you are committing somewhat temporary suicide.
• 38:18
  Speaker 5: You want to start changing the world around you and
• 38:21
  Speaker 5: start changing other things you're a fucking with black magic.
• 38:26
  Speaker 5: This stuff is supposed to be used on yourself and
• 38:29
  Speaker 5: not to change anything else around you, because then you're
• 38:31
  Speaker 5: enforcing your will onto the word.
• 38:33
  Speaker 1: It's almost like it's almost like it Applying a herb
• 38:40
  Speaker 1: or a resin or anything like that to a spell,
• 38:44
  Speaker 1: or integrating into your magical ritual is almost like setting
• 38:47
  Speaker 1: personal intention.
• 38:49
  Speaker 5: I mean, one thing I'm not even covering on the
• 38:50
  Speaker 5: show is something I'm going to add which I was
• 38:52
  Speaker 5: going to leave out because I didn't even want to
• 38:54
  Speaker 5: go there, but unfortunately, I think it hammers in what
• 38:56
  Speaker 5: I wanted to get at. How many spells have all
• 38:59
  Speaker 5: these clients that could possibly kill you that you're putting
• 39:02
  Speaker 5: into your potions? It's because you need to die, m h.
• 39:10
  Speaker 5: Same thing shaman should understand this From people going through
• 39:12
  Speaker 5: shamanistic work, what do you think they're doing. They're pushing
• 39:14
  Speaker 5: themselves to the edge of debt.
• 39:16
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it echoes all the way from you know,
• 39:20
  Speaker 2: whether you're talking to psilocybin experience right, which just is
• 39:23
  Speaker 2: a concrete.
• 39:24
  Speaker 5: That's even another thing I'm red including to it.
• 39:26
  Speaker 4: Ego.
• 39:26
  Speaker 2: Ego goes right like it literally goes, you know, the
• 39:29
  Speaker 2: last one. I could think I was waiting for somebody
• 39:30
  Speaker 2: to come get me after I had my tea, or
• 39:32
  Speaker 2: to come meet me, you know, to do to have
• 39:34
  Speaker 2: tea with me. And I went ahead, and in my
• 39:36
  Speaker 2: brain I'm thinking, hey, where is And just in that instant,
• 39:40
  Speaker 2: my brain goes, what do you mean? Where is somebody else? Who?
• 39:42
  Speaker 2: How is there somebody else who? And I lose the
• 39:44
  Speaker 2: ability right, ego goes. But like you said, the shamanistic process, man,
• 39:50
  Speaker 2: is your life right, it's it's it's transmuting the pain.
• 39:56
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 39:56
  Speaker 2: It's an alchemy of as you say, yourself right. All
• 40:00
  Speaker 2: of these things I think, at their heart, of course,
• 40:03
  Speaker 2: my experience tells me is about yourself, right, no matter
• 40:06
  Speaker 2: how you're coming at any spiritual aspect, which is when
• 40:09
  Speaker 2: we talk about magic, you know, we're talking about untangible,
• 40:12
  Speaker 2: We're talking about spirit. Right, It's all about you, right,
• 40:16
  Speaker 2: aiming it at you, transforming you, dying as Nick says,
• 40:20
  Speaker 2: right to you to your understanding of everything so that
• 40:24
  Speaker 2: you can't step across that veil, or have that veil finned.
• 40:27
  Speaker 2: Have what Nick calls a magical experience, have what I
• 40:30
  Speaker 2: might call an afternoon and fourth dimensional consciousness, you know, right.
• 40:36
  Speaker 5: It's a names for it. Yeah, have the same thing.
• 40:38
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it's where we're going, you know. And what
• 40:42
  Speaker 2: we're trying to do and we're doing here is when
• 40:45
  Speaker 2: we go there, right, when we take our consciousness there,
• 40:49
  Speaker 2: what happens we put up kind of a scaffolding from
• 40:51
  Speaker 2: if we want to call it third D consciousness up
• 40:53
  Speaker 2: to four D or non magical experience to magical. Right,
• 40:57
  Speaker 2: once I go there, I have that experience, I can
• 40:59
  Speaker 2: use world is a scaffolding, is how I word it,
• 41:02
  Speaker 2: to bring my three D consciousness, my non magical experience consciousness,
• 41:06
  Speaker 2: bring that baseline up closer to what I experience when
• 41:09
  Speaker 2: I'm when I'm having those experiences. Right, So what is
• 41:12
  Speaker 2: my goal this whole time, even when going there. It's
• 41:15
  Speaker 2: so that I bring back to myself, build this scaffolding
• 41:18
  Speaker 2: and raise my own consciousness base level up and I'll
• 41:23
  Speaker 2: stop there. But it's all about what we do with
• 41:25
  Speaker 2: us to echo next point, not what we we try
• 41:28
  Speaker 2: to do out there in the world. You know. That's
• 41:31
  Speaker 2: it's you go.
• 41:32
  Speaker 5: I mean, that's a lot of ifs for my theory
• 41:34
  Speaker 5: that you have to actually believe people understood this shit
• 41:36
  Speaker 5: in the past, But I do think that.
• 41:38
  Speaker 2: Well, it's how we change, It's how we change guys everything, right,
• 41:42
  Speaker 2: And like Nick said, if you want to change something
• 41:43
  Speaker 2: out there, do you go this short circuit black magic
• 41:46
  Speaker 2: route or do you take the painful route?
• 41:49
  Speaker 4: Do you go in?
• 41:50
  Speaker 2: Do you do the fucking work? Do you do what's
• 41:52
  Speaker 2: necessary to then find yourself one day through the pain
• 41:55
  Speaker 2: walking hand in hand with this mystery whatever we want
• 41:59
  Speaker 2: to label it, right, and walking at a much higher
• 42:01
  Speaker 2: level because you have personally put in the work to
• 42:04
  Speaker 2: go there, do it?
• 42:06
  Speaker 1: Sure, the transformative work, transformative platforming, scaffolding, as you said, exactly, yes, yeah,
• 42:17
  Speaker 1: which is hard work, right, It's all hard work. So
• 42:19
  Speaker 1: if whatever you need to use to get you there,
• 42:23
  Speaker 1: so like if you're taking like a hero dose of psilocybin,
• 42:28
  Speaker 1: or you know, or you think that it's gonna calm
• 42:32
  Speaker 1: your nerves to sniff some lavender, whatever you use to
• 42:35
  Speaker 1: build your scaffolding, right, Which is why I stated in
• 42:40
  Speaker 1: the beginning that a lot of that stuff, like Nick said,
• 42:42
  Speaker 1: is it's psychological. It's bolstering your psychological or your mindset
• 42:48
  Speaker 1: to prepare you to perform something that you feel is
• 42:52
  Speaker 1: a bit of a feat.
• 42:55
  Speaker 3: Right, is the psychological is that the same thing as
• 42:58
  Speaker 3: the placebo effect that you guys Noah, Yes, just wanted
• 43:03
  Speaker 3: to make sure I verify.
• 43:04
  Speaker 2: I understand I.
• 43:05
  Speaker 1: Would agree with that. Yeah, not like to say that
• 43:09
  Speaker 1: it has no effect isn't really true because they do
• 43:12
  Speaker 1: have effects, but they're very short lived or they're very minimal.
• 43:16
  Speaker 1: So for me, my understanding of my experience is that
• 43:20
  Speaker 1: it's largely psychological.
• 43:23
  Speaker 3: Well, I was just going to say, because I agree
• 43:26
  Speaker 3: with both what you guys say and when you say
• 43:28
  Speaker 3: psychological and then doesn't have an effect, right, Psychological we
• 43:32
  Speaker 3: know that we have certain CBD and THAC things in
• 43:37
  Speaker 3: our brains, anything that's sent we have the ability within
• 43:40
  Speaker 3: ourselves to do all the dopamine type of stuff that
• 43:43
  Speaker 3: we want to do on ourselves.
• 43:44
  Speaker 2: So the smell of it does it activate?
• 43:47
  Speaker 3: Is that the you know, the trigger that can help
• 43:49
  Speaker 3: some people that can't do it naturally they need an
• 43:52
  Speaker 3: outside element. Is something that I probably I'm thinking about
• 43:56
  Speaker 3: I understand better on the concept of what you guys
• 43:58
  Speaker 3: are saying, because if I smell, if I take a
• 44:01
  Speaker 3: jar of marijuana and I smell, I probably would get
• 44:05
  Speaker 3: that effect of saying, oh, this might help me a
• 44:07
  Speaker 3: little bit, right, and then not necessarily high, but the
• 44:14
  Speaker 3: like I'm like Sarah, I have a y'all already know
• 44:16
  Speaker 3: I have a traumatic brain injury. So I get headaches
• 44:18
  Speaker 3: all the time, all the time, and I can tell
• 44:21
  Speaker 3: you certain smells will relieve my headaches for only maybe
• 44:25
  Speaker 3: five ten minutes, it's not too long, and then the
• 44:28
  Speaker 3: intensity it will come back. But it does help a
• 44:31
  Speaker 3: little bit if I'm surrounded by certain smells. I spray
• 44:34
  Speaker 3: lavender on my pillows and certain stuff like that when
• 44:36
  Speaker 3: I'm laying down and going to sleep.
• 44:38
  Speaker 2: So when I hear the word.
• 44:40
  Speaker 3: Psychological or the placebo effect, I usually just take it
• 44:43
  Speaker 3: as you know, it's an outside element helping me do
• 44:46
  Speaker 3: something that I can't naturally do within myself.
• 44:50
  Speaker 4: Well, I would say in Sarah and Tyrone, if you
• 44:55
  Speaker 4: have migrains, I have a question for you. That is,
• 45:00
  Speaker 4: it is something that apparently is unescapable unless you take
• 45:05
  Speaker 4: something or use something to minor its effects or it's pain.
• 45:10
  Speaker 4: But do you experience, for very short periods of time
• 45:13
  Speaker 4: that can be five seconds, it can be three minutes,
• 45:18
  Speaker 4: when your mind goes to something and focus on something,
• 45:21
  Speaker 4: and it's only after that period ends that you realize, oh,
• 45:24
  Speaker 4: I have a headache because during that period it completely
• 45:28
  Speaker 4: disappears because you've focused on something or something called to
• 45:32
  Speaker 4: your attention, and it disappears because it happens with me.
• 45:35
  Speaker 4: So I realized that the pain is there because I
• 45:38
  Speaker 4: am having the pain. But I can also completely eradicate
• 45:43
  Speaker 4: it for if I can do it for short periods
• 45:45
  Speaker 4: of time, if I learn to control that, I can
• 45:48
  Speaker 4: completely eradicate it for the full time of it. Right,
• 45:50
  Speaker 4: So it's a bit frustrating that I can't. But do
• 45:53
  Speaker 4: you experience that or is just a constant for me?
• 45:58
  Speaker 3: Mine is more constant just because I have a low
• 46:01
  Speaker 3: blood flow to the right side of my brain, So
• 46:02
  Speaker 3: that's more physical than anything. Like I literally had two
• 46:05
  Speaker 3: strokes before, so having poor blood to the flow, the
• 46:09
  Speaker 3: poor blood flow to the rights of my brain is
• 46:11
  Speaker 3: something that I always feel like I always have pressure
• 46:14
  Speaker 3: over the right side of my eye. But I can
• 46:18
  Speaker 3: tell you when I meditate, and I do intense meditation,
• 46:22
  Speaker 3: and I do it very hard too, Like I'll sit
• 46:24
  Speaker 3: out there two three hours and I don't do it
• 46:26
  Speaker 3: when there's any sound around. I do it like two
• 46:28
  Speaker 3: three o'clock in the morning, go in the backyard, sitting
• 46:30
  Speaker 3: back and just meditate twenty thirty minutes.
• 46:32
  Speaker 2: It doesn't get rid of my headache, but it helps
• 46:35
  Speaker 2: me cope better with it. That if that helps you
• 46:38
  Speaker 2: understand like.
• 46:39
  Speaker 3: A pain, like with a broken arm, you know when
• 46:41
  Speaker 3: you had a cast on your hand and you could
• 46:43
  Speaker 3: feel the pain still throbbing a little bit, but it
• 46:46
  Speaker 3: wasn't too bad. You just could feel it whenever, you know,
• 46:49
  Speaker 3: basically stood still kind of thing.
• 46:54
  Speaker 6: I would agree that the problem for me is that
• 46:56
  Speaker 6: I can't focus on anything else because it literally feels
• 47:00
  Speaker 6: like someone has an ice pick and a hammer and
• 47:02
  Speaker 6: they're just forever. So, I mean, the only thing that
• 47:08
  Speaker 6: really as far as focus, I mean, you're limited on
• 47:11
  Speaker 6: what you can you can attempt to focus on because
• 47:14
  Speaker 6: you have things like photophobia where the lights are just
• 47:18
  Speaker 6: excruciating and sound can be excruciating. The only thing I
• 47:22
  Speaker 6: can manage to focus on is music, and it has
• 47:25
  Speaker 6: to be a specific kind of music, something with like
• 47:28
  Speaker 6: a repeating pattern, and then I'll focus in on that pattern,
• 47:32
  Speaker 6: and then that can make some time go by where
• 47:35
  Speaker 6: I'm not just completely miserable, but for the most part,
• 47:38
  Speaker 6: I'm still just completely miserable. I mean, it gives you
• 47:43
  Speaker 6: something to distract yourself with with one two three four
• 47:46
  Speaker 6: one two three four one two three So.
• 47:49
  Speaker 3: Hemmy Sink is really good for that. Hemmy Sink. I
• 47:52
  Speaker 3: use a lot of programs from him too, I.
• 47:54
  Speaker 4: Think a lot of I think, Sarah, that what you're
• 47:58
  Speaker 4: saying is explains I probably why you find so many
• 48:03
  Speaker 4: Neanderthal skulls and that have holes in them. That they
• 48:06
  Speaker 4: did surgery too, that archaeologists think it's to relieve pressure or.
• 48:12
  Speaker 2: That's what you feel like you need to do.
• 48:14
  Speaker 4: So yeah, I need I needed to open right here
• 48:16
  Speaker 4: because that's that's when it hurts, so open and we've
• 48:19
  Speaker 4: released the pressure. So I always thought it was because
• 48:22
  Speaker 4: of the acause of my migraines. And it reminds me
• 48:25
  Speaker 4: when I saw the holes, I thought, oh, feeling the
• 48:28
  Speaker 4: pressure open right here.
• 48:30
  Speaker 6: So I know, I wonder if it helped, because I mean,
• 48:33
  Speaker 6: like when you're in the middle of a migraine episode,
• 48:36
  Speaker 6: you would do anything to get rid of that. You know,
• 48:39
  Speaker 6: if someone said eat this dog shit and it'll help you,
• 48:42
  Speaker 6: I'm gonna eat that dog shit, just not a second
• 48:46
  Speaker 6: thought about it. I'm gonna do it, and there's no
• 48:48
  Speaker 6: way you can stop me, because you will do anything
• 48:51
  Speaker 6: to get rid of it. So it makes me wonder
• 48:54
  Speaker 6: if I could just.
• 48:56
  Speaker 4: Well it is. It is a tradition in Africa eating coal,
• 49:01
  Speaker 4: especially when women are pregnant and having pain, they eat coal,
• 49:06
  Speaker 4: which is to me is weird because I thought it
• 49:08
  Speaker 4: was highly toxic but apparently not. So that's one of
• 49:13
  Speaker 4: the things they do for magarines for pain pain. Yeah,
• 49:19
  Speaker 4: especially when they're pregnant.
• 49:21
  Speaker 1: I get why you would do that. I get why
• 49:25
  Speaker 1: they would do that because like coal, charcoal is used
• 49:29
  Speaker 1: to like purge your body of toxins right in the
• 49:34
  Speaker 1: digestive tract. So that does make sense to.
• 49:36
  Speaker 6: Something realizes everything, and it's think.
• 49:39
  Speaker 1: About actually doing that. It would be so awful that
• 49:42
  Speaker 1: unless it actually had an effect, a positive effect, would
• 49:46
  Speaker 1: you really do it?
• 49:47
  Speaker 2: So it must be uneficial in the hospital, you know.
• 49:51
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, if you go in and you're you know,
• 49:54
  Speaker 1: you've drink too much alcohol specifically in that you know,
• 49:58
  Speaker 1: then they pump your stomach full of liquid charcoal to
• 50:01
  Speaker 1: purge your system.
• 50:04
  Speaker 2: So yeah, learn that that checks out firsthand. My daughter,
• 50:11
  Speaker 2: Oh god, that's a negative experience. Yeah, we won't go there,
• 50:14
  Speaker 2: but yeah, they do use charcoal. So like Nikota, let
• 50:18
  Speaker 2: you keep going. But what came to my mind when
• 50:20
  Speaker 2: Sarah was talking about the migraines and riccard Tyrone mentioned
• 50:24
  Speaker 2: the placebo placebo. I think it can be taken a
• 50:27
  Speaker 2: couple of ways, right, Because when you look at it
• 50:30
  Speaker 2: just subjectively, you're you're saying that I a disease or something,
• 50:37
  Speaker 2: a symptom was cured, but I didn't have the remedy
• 50:40
  Speaker 2: which you were testing for. Right, So you're saying I
• 50:44
  Speaker 2: cured myself, right, is essentially what a placebo effect is, right,
• 50:49
  Speaker 2: I gave myself the effect that medication was supposed to
• 50:52
  Speaker 2: get me. Right, Okay, So if everything, if absolutely everything, Ricardo,
• 50:57
  Speaker 2: you were talking about the trialogus yesterday, holograph versus simulation.
• 51:01
  Speaker 2: You know, if we say that word holograph, we're and
• 51:04
  Speaker 2: we talk about everything in the physical having its own
• 51:07
  Speaker 2: not mirror, but aperture, you know, its own appendage in
• 51:11
  Speaker 2: the spiritual. Right, where these two are constantly correlating, then
• 51:15
  Speaker 2: we can say that anything going on in the physical
• 51:18
  Speaker 2: can be addressed in the spiritual. Right, So when you
• 51:21
  Speaker 2: start tapping into something like you know, Christ or all
• 51:24
  Speaker 2: these different various forms of energetic healing, you know, which
• 51:27
  Speaker 2: we know from the east, right, what are they addressing.
• 51:29
  Speaker 2: They're addressing the spiritual manifestation to try to get the
• 51:34
  Speaker 2: physical manifestation. Now, how does that apply to something like
• 51:37
  Speaker 2: a migraine? Okay, well, if you zoom way out, I've
• 51:40
  Speaker 2: got a bad back, right. My back hurts every single
• 51:43
  Speaker 2: day of my life. Right now, you guys know me
• 51:45
  Speaker 2: as an extremely active, always out there, always on it, right,
• 51:48
  Speaker 2: Well I am, but it also always hurts.
• 51:51
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 51:52
  Speaker 2: What does that do for me? That does a lot
• 51:54
  Speaker 2: of things for me. That teaches me to push through pain.
• 51:57
  Speaker 2: That gives my soul, my spirit aspect, a resilience of strength.
• 52:01
  Speaker 2: It also gives me physically. I learned to push through pain.
• 52:05
  Speaker 2: I learned to keep going right, you can see where
• 52:08
  Speaker 2: I'm going. I then my soul, my reflection of my
• 52:12
  Speaker 2: physical body, picks up all of this training, this understanding.
• 52:16
  Speaker 2: I can even take you to the point of like Sarah,
• 52:18
  Speaker 2: let's say her migrains, right, I don't know how long
• 52:20
  Speaker 2: she's had them, probably most of her adult life.
• 52:22
  Speaker 5: Right.
• 52:23
  Speaker 2: What happens with that migraine. It's sends her somewhere, right,
• 52:25
  Speaker 2: she can't get up, she can't go. So maybe if
• 52:27
  Speaker 2: Sarah didn't have migraines. Sarah might be out living some
• 52:30
  Speaker 2: active life doing something that would have not had her
• 52:33
  Speaker 2: right here where she is running this podcast with all
• 52:37
  Speaker 2: of us. Right, so you see how my brain starts
• 52:40
  Speaker 2: to work and see the correlations of all of this
• 52:43
  Speaker 2: physical stuff exists for the purpose of spiritual right, so
• 52:48
  Speaker 2: all of it. I can get the growth effects, you know,
• 52:50
  Speaker 2: and I can see them in my life in yours anyway.
• 52:54
  Speaker 2: So when I go to see here placebo effect, I go, Okay,
• 52:57
  Speaker 2: so we're tapping into that spiritual reacs.
• 53:00
  Speaker 5: It's what we're doing.
• 53:03
  Speaker 4: But it doesn't it doesn't deny the fact that it
• 53:07
  Speaker 4: is being proven that by the whatever you want to
• 53:10
  Speaker 4: call it, the placebo effect, the self actuation as I
• 53:13
  Speaker 4: call it, you can actually control your biasuit. It leads
• 53:18
  Speaker 4: you to the conclusion that this is a biasuit. This
• 53:20
  Speaker 4: is not you. This is just the interface into this
• 53:27
  Speaker 4: holographic or simulation or whatever you want to call it. Right,
• 53:31
  Speaker 4: Because reality is but a quantum entanglement of of elements
• 53:37
  Speaker 4: that are brought into into reality by the refraction of light.
• 53:44
  Speaker 4: So in itself, the description itself shows us that it's
• 53:49
  Speaker 4: it's like a magical environment. So if by that that
• 53:54
  Speaker 4: definition alone, if you can see yourself as just interacting
• 53:59
  Speaker 4: with it instead of being under its rules and regulations,
• 54:06
  Speaker 4: you can interfere with it. You can change that reality
• 54:10
  Speaker 4: to yourself at least right. So that's how I see
• 54:13
  Speaker 4: Placeboy fats like the rubber arm experience. How is it
• 54:17
  Speaker 4: that your body suddenly starts receiving signals from a rubber
• 54:21
  Speaker 4: arm because you believe it's your own right? So it's
• 54:25
  Speaker 4: its biology of of of belief by Bruce Lipton is
• 54:31
  Speaker 4: the morphogenetic field from rupert chldrec all of these things
• 54:35
  Speaker 4: that are not woo, they are actual science shows us
• 54:39
  Speaker 4: that we can indeed control ourselves, control this body right
• 54:44
  Speaker 4: to a certain degree. You have wim Hoff, the iceman
• 54:47
  Speaker 4: that takes this ten people to the hospital with where
• 54:53
  Speaker 4: they are injected with this neurotoxin along with ten other
• 54:57
  Speaker 4: people that didn't wear into his one week training, and
• 55:02
  Speaker 4: is ten people get out of the hospital with no symptoms,
• 55:05
  Speaker 4: no consequences from the neurotoxin, and the ten people that
• 55:08
  Speaker 4: were injected and had not the training, some of them
• 55:11
  Speaker 4: were three days in the hospital to get better. So
• 55:16
  Speaker 4: I think there's something to be learned here. It's a
• 55:18
  Speaker 4: bit frustrating that we can control like Sarah cannot say
• 55:22
  Speaker 4: I want my headache to stop, and it stops, right.
• 55:25
  Speaker 4: But I believe there is a process where we can
• 55:27
  Speaker 4: learn to do that and go above that and control
• 55:29
  Speaker 4: the body.
• 55:30
  Speaker 2: So I think so until like we say, until it's
• 55:36
  Speaker 2: done serving its purpose, I mean, we don't, you know,
• 55:39
  Speaker 2: at the end of the day, know why Sarah has
• 55:41
  Speaker 2: these headaches, And like I say, it might be to
• 55:43
  Speaker 2: orchestrate her life in such a way that she's where
• 55:46
  Speaker 2: she needs to be when she needs to be there.
• 55:48
  Speaker 2: You know. Now some people balk at that, right, but
• 55:52
  Speaker 2: that has been an answer that's worked for me because
• 55:55
  Speaker 2: all the things I've done, I've overcome, paigned, I've had
• 55:58
  Speaker 2: situations I didn't like it as a result, once I
• 56:01
  Speaker 2: got through that situation, I realized, well, that's why that's
• 56:04
  Speaker 2: why that ship was there. You know, if that shit
• 56:06
  Speaker 2: hadn't have been there, I wouldn't have been where I
• 56:07
  Speaker 2: needed to be. But at the end of the day, Ricardo,
• 56:10
  Speaker 2: I think what you're saying is accurate. Man, if you
• 56:13
  Speaker 2: can get to a place where you could find what
• 56:15
  Speaker 2: is the what is it in the spiritual that this
• 56:18
  Speaker 2: thing that has my head aching latching onto right, then
• 56:23
  Speaker 2: you should theoretically be able to clear it, but I
• 56:27
  Speaker 2: always run into us. Having complete control over this place
• 56:31
  Speaker 2: kind of blows up my dynamic of there being a
• 56:34
  Speaker 2: creator in control, right, And when I'm doing that, I
• 56:38
  Speaker 2: then can see purpose and plan behind so much of
• 56:41
  Speaker 2: what we might call suffering, like my back or your head.
• 56:45
  Speaker 4: Yeah, but when you were playing an open map game,
• 56:49
  Speaker 4: there is a creative of the game and you still
• 56:51
  Speaker 4: have freedom to do whatever you want correct correct, right.
• 56:56
  Speaker 2: So yeah, it's.
• 56:59
  Speaker 4: It's when people take this further they go, it's a
• 57:01
  Speaker 4: simulation within a simulation within a simulation, because we don't
• 57:05
  Speaker 4: know how level, how many levels of simulation we are
• 57:07
  Speaker 4: embedded in, right based reality, right.
• 57:10
  Speaker 2: Yeah, because that's why I like holograph better, because you know,
• 57:13
  Speaker 2: holograph just record.
• 57:16
  Speaker 4: As I said yesterday, I believe that the holographic is
• 57:19
  Speaker 4: the result of the simulation. The simulation creates a holographic scenery. Right.
• 57:25
  Speaker 4: Instead of trying to choose between one and another, I
• 57:27
  Speaker 4: think they're both interconnected. Like the simulation is the coding
• 57:30
  Speaker 4: and the holographic is the reality that we experience. That's
• 57:34
  Speaker 4: how it represents itself. So sorry, we went a little
• 57:42
  Speaker 4: bit off track, but you continue because it's you that
• 57:45
  Speaker 4: is simulating all of this.
• 57:48
  Speaker 5: Thank you the rules. We'll go on to the rules.
• 57:52
  Speaker 5: The ruse is synonymous with love and beauty in the
• 57:54
  Speaker 5: world of magic. It's soft pedals and exclusit perfume have
• 57:57
  Speaker 5: made it an emblem of Venusian energy. Everything to do
• 58:01
  Speaker 5: with love, from romance to self love, attraction, and emotional healing,
• 58:05
  Speaker 5: which is a mystic. Use roses in countless ways. Rose
• 58:08
  Speaker 5: petals sprinkled in a bath to attract love, rosebud and
• 58:11
  Speaker 5: sachets to promote friendship, rose water to consecrate the altar
• 58:15
  Speaker 5: with vibrations of peace and harmony. It's typically known roses
• 58:20
  Speaker 5: are used for love spells, healing, protection, and spiritual connection,
• 58:24
  Speaker 5: and are considered a conduit for energy and a bridge
• 58:27
  Speaker 5: between worlds. They are also protective in a gentle way.
• 58:31
  Speaker 5: For instance, a rose bush planted by the door is
• 58:34
  Speaker 5: said to keep out envy and intrusion, divination in psychic
• 58:39
  Speaker 5: wisdom or another aspect. Some traditions anoint the third eye
• 58:43
  Speaker 5: with rose oil or keep a rose on the table
• 58:45
  Speaker 5: during tower readings, believing and invites guidance from loving spirits.
• 58:49
  Speaker 5: And enhances intuition. In angelic or devotional magic, the scent
• 58:55
  Speaker 5: of roses is thought to attract angels and benevolent entities. Furthermore,
• 58:59
  Speaker 5: due to their association with the blessed Mother in Christianity
• 59:03
  Speaker 5: and goddess ishtar and aphrodite, roses carry a spiritual authority
• 59:07
  Speaker 5: for blessing and consecration. They can sanctify holy water hence
• 59:11
  Speaker 5: rose water and church rituals, and are used to bless
• 59:14
  Speaker 5: people in ceremonies like handfastings or baby blessings. Darker workings
• 59:19
  Speaker 5: dried rose thorns can act as subtle banishers or bindings.
• 59:24
  Speaker 5: Their prickly nature holds or repels, but overwhelmingly the roses
• 59:28
  Speaker 5: magic is positive and healing, which is sometimes meditate on
• 59:32
  Speaker 5: a mental inner rose blooming in the heart as a
• 59:35
  Speaker 5: way to awaken self love and psychic sight, with correspondences
• 59:40
  Speaker 5: to water emotions in Friday, the day of Venus. The
• 59:42
  Speaker 5: rose is arguably one of the most magical flowers. It
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  Speaker 5: is literally considered a high vibration plant modern energy healers.
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  Speaker 5: Clean roses have one of the highest energetic frequencies of
• 59:53
  Speaker 5: any herb. Magical correspondences of the rose as a planet, Venus,
• 59:59
  Speaker 5: delement water. In deities of love Aphrodite, Venus and Eros,
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 5: the chakra would be the heart and properties again beloved, friendship, beauty,
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 5: psychic protection, luck in love, and prophetic dreams, especially when
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 5: combined with mugwort and peace. Neural and psychologic and physiological effects.
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  Speaker 5: The fragrance of roses has a well known calming and
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 5: uplifting effect on the human nervous system. Rose essential oil
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 5: extracted from rose petals has been studied and found to
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 5: reduce anxiety and promote relaxation with subject inhale rose oil,
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  Speaker 5: they are measurable drops, and there are measurable drops in
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 5: blood pressure, breathing rate, and cortisol levels, indicating activation of
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 5: the paris sympathetic nervous system and a reduction of the
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 5: flight or the fight or flight response. One study found
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 5: that rose oil or aromatherapy significantly decreased anxiety and postpartum women,
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 5: likely through modulation of GABBA or dopamine in the brain
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 5: of the sensory love. The scent of rose engages the
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 5: olfactory nerve, which relays directly to the olympic system, the hippocampus,
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  Speaker 5: and other parts of the brain. Rose aroma tends to
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 5: increase feelings of comfort and decrease stress responses in the amygdilla,
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  Speaker 5: partly explaining why it's associated with feelings of love in safety.
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  Speaker 5: There's also an interesting connection between rose scent and memory,
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 5: because many people have positive emotional memories linked to roses,
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  Speaker 5: gift from loved ones, gardens, et cetera, kind of like
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  Speaker 5: I think what shaman was getting at earlier memories. The
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 5: smell can trigger release of oxytocin, the bonding hormone and endorphins,
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  Speaker 5: giving a mild euphoria of sense of emotional warmth. From
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 5: a cranial nerve perspective, rose interacts chiefly with the c
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 5: on one the ol factory. However, if one applies with
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 5: rose oil to the skin or in a massage, trigeminal
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 5: nerve CN five endings might pick up a slight cooling
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 5: or soothing sensation from the lineal or geraneal components. These
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 5: components also have mild painkiller effects. One trial noted that
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 5: rose oil topically reduced menstrual cramp pain, possibly by relaxing
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 5: smooth muscle via the autonomic nerves. Another fascinating aspect the
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 5: electro in the EEG pattern associated with rose. Essential inhalation
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 5: shows an increase in alpha and theata ways, indicating a
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 5: relaxed but alert mental state similar to meditation. This aligns
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 5: with rose's use in spiritual practices to elevate conscious consciousness gently. Furthermore,
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 5: a Japanese study found that sleeping in a rose scented
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  Speaker 5: room led to more reports of pleasant dreams, suggesting rose
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 5: aroma can influence the content of dreams, perhaps by biasing
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 5: emotional tone towards positive. This might be why folklore claims
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 5: rose under the pillow encourages prophetic or loving dreams. In
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 5: terms of hormonal effing, fact, some small studies hint that
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 5: rose oil can reduce adrenaline levels. It maybe increase libido
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 5: by lowering stress, linking it to its aphrodisiacs reputation not
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 5: just a symbol, but physically as a relaxant that allows sensuality.
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 5: As for protective qualities, one could argue that by stabling
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 5: mood and promoting optimism, rose indirectly armours the psyche against
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  Speaker 5: negative thought patterns, which magicians might interpret as warding off
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 5: evil influences. Interestingly, modern research has even looked at a
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 5: rose extract as an antidepressant. In traditional Persian medicine, rose
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 5: was used for melancholy. In some contemporary her herbalist use
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 5: rosa the mascina atract to alleviate depression and grief. It
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 5: appears to interact with serotonin and opioid receptors, producing calm happiness.
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 5: In summary, rose affects the brain and body primarily by
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 5: reducing stress and enhancing emotional well balance being. Its smell
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 5: literally communicates you are safe. You are to the olympic system.
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 5: It's a gentle, sedative and mood brightener wrapped in one.
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  Speaker 5: So when a magical practitioner surrounds herself for himself with
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 5: the scent and sight of roses to do a love
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 5: spell or a healing meditation, the roses are biologically helping
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 5: them achieve the necessary emotion's emotional state open, trusting, positive
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 5: for the magic to work. The phrase stop and smell
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 5: of the roses has wisdom. It activates all criminal nerves
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 5: in a way that forces a pause, a deep breath,
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 5: and a smile. On the subtle level, one could say
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 5: roses at tune our nervous system to the frequency of love.
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 5: On the other literal level, they cause measurable shifts towards
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 5: a calm heart scented physiology. Anybody want to talk on
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 5: rose before I go next? Yeah?
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 4: Is there any any chain, any definition about the callers
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 4: of the roast to be used?
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  Speaker 5: Or it's no, I probably should have Yeah I did.
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  Speaker 5: Do you include that with the crystals? I thought about
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 5: doing that with with the herbs myself too, after the fact.
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 5: It's just, you know, I was just like, I don't
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 5: know how many people like I don't know. I guess
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 5: if you're looking at a big bag of it, I mean,
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 5: you know, I don't know how that works. If I'm
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 5: just sprinkling a couple of things on a charcoal. Was
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 5: me looking at that that? I don't know? I don't know,
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 5: But I have thought about looting that.
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  Speaker 4: Hmm. And and and this is a question for all
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 4: the panel, but maybe Jacqueline knows better. Is that this
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 4: is like the dieg or the chicken question.
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 2: Because exactly what was going to come out of my mouth?
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 4: Let's see, because what comes next? Because we have all
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 4: the end or cabinite receptors, we had the cylocibin receptors,
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 4: we have the opioid receptors. So why do we have
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 4: all these receptors that makes us vulnerable to exactly the
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 4: substances that you are mentioning. Right, So was it developed
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 4: by the use of those herbs in pre times or
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 4: did it come naturally with our body? Right? In evolutionary terms?
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 4: So to what comes first?
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 2: Right, Well, you're digging into Look why what came first?
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 2: The what the rose? The effect the rose has? Like
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 2: he said? Right, Okay, Now, why do I give roses
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 2: to my daughter on opening night? Why do I give
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 2: roses to a new woman when I'm meeting her? Right?
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 2: Because I'm wanting the effects he listed. Right. I want
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 2: you to feel safe. I want you to feel comfortable.
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 2: I want you to feel relaxed, I want you to
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 2: feel loved. Right, So what came first? These effects? Like
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 2: he said, so that I would near here as an
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 2: adult give roses to you.
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 6: You see, I mean you can.
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 4: Get yeah, but I can't understand the process. I can
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 4: understand the process of you looking at variety of flowers
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 4: and saying, oh, the rose is pretty. So if it
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 4: is pretty to me, it is pretty to her too,
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 4: or to whatever you want to give it to. Right,
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 4: It doesn't mean that you have the sevy to know
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 4: that he has properties that will make her like you
• 1:07:05
  Speaker 4: more because you're giving her the rose, and that leads
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 4: to the receptors. So what's the origin and what's the
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 4: purpose of those receptors into this BioSuit as we are describing.
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 4: Is it to make us open to this experience? Is
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 4: it to make us vulnerable? It is to make us stronger?
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 4: Maybe it can be used either way. I just find
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 4: it funny that we have those receptors into our body,
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 4: and most of the drugs that are considered bad by
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 4: most people, we can produce them naturally by stimulating these receptors.
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 4: So not to mention a lot of drugs that our
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 4: body produced that we can obtain outside of it.
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 1: Well, I would apply a little bit of logic to
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 1: your question and say, if we you know, if you're
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 1: asking about the chicken or the egg, if and I mean,
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 1: I know, I always bring it back to the same substance.
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 1: But if you know, somebody thought, hey, what is this
• 1:08:11
  Speaker 1: mushroom you know, ten thousand years ago or one hundred
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 1: thousand years ago, and they took it and it didn't
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 1: do anything to them. Why if they didn't have the
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 1: receptors to begin with, why would they continuously try to
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 1: take the psilocybin to have a mystical experience if it
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 1: had no effect, So I would say that our skin
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 1: suit came equipped with said receptors because all the things
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 1: we're talking about, first of all, are naturally occurring and
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 1: they're in our environment. So we were equipped with the
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 1: receptors from the beginning, and maybe at some point it
• 1:08:54
  Speaker 1: was an evolutionary beginning to those receptors. But if it
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 1: didn't have an effect, or it didn't you know, if
• 1:09:03
  Speaker 1: the smelling the roses didn't calm you or make you feel,
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 1: you know, even appreciative of the scent of the rose,
• 1:09:10
  Speaker 1: then you wouldn't continue to smell it. That's my answer.
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 4: So we were supposed from the beginning to drug ourselves out.
• 1:09:22
  Speaker 2: Yes, what did you remember the Bill Hicks a bit
• 1:09:25
  Speaker 2: the comedian when he's talking about God creating everything and
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 2: he said he's got He's God on stage and he's
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 2: got a handful of marijuana and he goes, oh me,
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 2: oh my, I spilled plot everywhere. Now I've got to
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 2: create Republicans to make it illegal.
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 1: Those pesky Republicans.
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 2: You know. I guess today it could be either it
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 2: was back that was in the eighties when he was.
• 1:09:59
  Speaker 2: But it's still too point of if it's by design,
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 2: if I have the receptor in here, if I have
• 1:10:04
  Speaker 2: the receptors in my body, and the only place I
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 2: can acquire that fame for that receptor is in this plant.
• 1:10:10
  Speaker 2: What kind of idiot doesn't see inherent design? Obviously you
• 1:10:13
  Speaker 2: don't believe in the creator. If you don't see that.
• 1:10:16
  Speaker 4: Well, they don't understand, Bill Hicks. Part of it's just
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 4: the riot, right man?
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 5: Do you want me to continue? All right? This one's
• 1:10:36
  Speaker 5: lemon balm. Melissa fishianallis one of my personal favorites. Yeah, yes,
• 1:10:43
  Speaker 5: why Yeah, that lavender was huge, so I'm sure I
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 5: covered those magical uses. It's often called Melissa Greek for
• 1:10:50
  Speaker 5: honeybee or hearts. The light. Lemon balm carries a light,
• 1:10:53
  Speaker 5: bright energy, and magic. Lemon lee mint herb is famed
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 5: for its ability to sue emotional pain and attract gentle love,
• 1:11:02
  Speaker 5: which is used lemon balm and spells to heal from
• 1:11:04
  Speaker 5: Greek grief or heartbreak, For example, drawing a tea of
• 1:11:08
  Speaker 5: lemon balm and rose petals to drink during a waning
• 1:11:11
  Speaker 5: moon ritual, releasing sadness and inviting self love. It is
• 1:11:15
  Speaker 5: said to gladden the heart and was historically used in
• 1:11:19
  Speaker 5: potions to cheer the mind and dispel melancholy and folk magic,
• 1:11:22
  Speaker 5: lemon bamb is associated with positive energy, success and friendship.
• 1:11:26
  Speaker 5: Adding it to sachets or baths is believed to draw
• 1:11:29
  Speaker 5: in good luck and affectionate vibes. Healing and health are
• 1:11:33
  Speaker 5: also part of its domain. Paracelsus, the famous physician and alchemists,
• 1:11:38
  Speaker 5: claimed and a lixir of lemon bam could rejuvenate in
• 1:11:41
  Speaker 5: prolonged life. Consequently, magical practices include lemonbam and healing charms
• 1:11:46
  Speaker 5: to increase vitality and chase away illness. On an energetic level,
• 1:11:50
  Speaker 5: some witches plant lemabam around their home or beehives to
• 1:11:54
  Speaker 5: promote prosperity and healthy pollinators. As a lunar herb, lemonbam
• 1:12:00
  Speaker 5: has a subtle psychic aspect. It can be used to
• 1:12:03
  Speaker 5: enhance intuition and calm the mind for divination. A cup
• 1:12:07
  Speaker 5: of lemon balm tea before scrying or meditating under the
• 1:12:10
  Speaker 5: moonlight is thought to open the third eyes softly, allowing
• 1:12:13
  Speaker 5: gentle visions or intuitive feelings. It's a common ingredient in
• 1:12:17
  Speaker 5: dream pillows. Or psychic vision oils paired with things like
• 1:12:21
  Speaker 5: mugwort and lavender because it raises the vibration but in
• 1:12:25
  Speaker 5: a soothing way. In Hudu and Latin America, lemon balm,
• 1:12:29
  Speaker 5: sometimes called ruda embra, though that can be confused with rue,
• 1:12:34
  Speaker 5: is used in a spiritual is used in spiritual bats
• 1:12:37
  Speaker 5: for love, joy and to attract admirers. It sweetens ones aurora,
• 1:12:41
  Speaker 5: much like sugar and har spell the neural and psych
• 1:12:46
  Speaker 5: physiological effects. Lemon balm is well known in herbal medicines
• 1:12:50
  Speaker 5: for its calming and mo lifting effects, which correlates strongly
• 1:12:54
  Speaker 5: with its magical uses for emotional healing and positivity. Positivity
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  Speaker 5: from a pharmacologically lemon bomb contains compounds such as rosemrinic acid, citral,
• 1:13:06
  Speaker 5: and geronial. I'm saying that correct these constituents contribute to
• 1:13:11
  Speaker 5: its enzyltic, anxiety reducing and mild sedative effects. Clinical studies
• 1:13:17
  Speaker 5: have demonstrated that lemon balm extract can significantly reduce anxiety
• 1:13:21
  Speaker 5: and improve sleek quality in people with anxiety disorder. It
• 1:13:26
  Speaker 5: appears to our work by modulating gabba receptors in the brain.
• 1:13:31
  Speaker 5: Rosemarinic as acid inhibits the gabba trans transimanes, increasing GABBA availability,
• 1:13:37
  Speaker 5: which promotes calmness, similar to how benzodiazepine drugs increase gabba's effect. Therefore,
• 1:13:44
  Speaker 5: consuming lemon balm, tea or tincture directly soothes the nervous system,
• 1:13:48
  Speaker 5: lowering feelings of stress and agitation. One trial with healthy,
• 1:13:53
  Speaker 5: healthy volunteers found that lemon balm not only reduced subjective anxiety,
• 1:13:57
  Speaker 5: but also improve cognitive task perform mos. Interestingly, it can
• 1:14:02
  Speaker 5: calm you without impairing your thinking. This alert calm is
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  Speaker 5: likely due to a balance of its colon energic and
• 1:14:12
  Speaker 5: gabba urgic effects. Like its relative stage, lemon bomb also
• 1:14:17
  Speaker 5: has some acid acid tilkoline receptor activity. I fucked that up.
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  Speaker 5: It's been observed to enhance memory and alertness in small doses.
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  Speaker 5: In fact, a controlled study at Northumbria University in two
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  Speaker 5: thousand and four found improved memory and attention of participants
• 1:14:36
  Speaker 5: who took lemon balm along with increased calmness. So lemon
• 1:14:40
  Speaker 5: Balm's effects on the brain is adaptogenic in a sense
• 1:14:44
  Speaker 5: it can reduce anxiety while boosting cognitive function. There is
• 1:14:49
  Speaker 5: a rare combination that justifies its historical use for uplifting
• 1:14:53
  Speaker 5: the spirit without overstimulation. Lemon bomb also raises serotonin levels
• 1:14:58
  Speaker 5: and animal studies which can explo its mood brightening properties.
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  Speaker 5: Many people simply feel happier after lemon balm, hence its
• 1:15:06
  Speaker 5: chase melancholic. On a sensory level, lemon balm brightly. Lemon
• 1:15:11
  Speaker 5: Balm's bright lemony scent via the olfactory nerve is invigorating
• 1:15:15
  Speaker 5: yet not harsh citral. The lemon scent compound is known
• 1:15:19
  Speaker 5: to be mood enhancing us in romatherapy or depression inhaling.
• 1:15:25
  Speaker 5: Lemon balm essential oil can thus produce a quick sense
• 1:15:27
  Speaker 5: of refreshment in slight euphoria. Citrus smells tend to spike dopamine. Meanwhile,
• 1:15:34
  Speaker 5: the undertone of mint it's in the mint family, is
• 1:15:37
  Speaker 5: a gentle cooling aspect through the trigeminal nerve some menthol presence,
• 1:15:42
  Speaker 5: so lemon balm aroma might simultaneously be calm via trigenal
• 1:15:47
  Speaker 5: cooling and uplift via ol factory citrus. Regarding the heart
• 1:15:51
  Speaker 5: and body, lemon balm has mild cardiotropic effects. It's traditionally
• 1:15:56
  Speaker 5: used to slow and over rapid heartbeat and lower blood
• 1:15:59
  Speaker 5: pressure and anxious states. Scientific research supports that lemon balm
• 1:16:04
  Speaker 5: can cause a modest reduction in blood pressure and heart
• 1:16:08
  Speaker 5: rate by calming sympathetic nervous activity, likely through barrel receptor reflects,
• 1:16:15
  Speaker 5: by reducing anxiety. It is also anti spasmodic on smooth muscles,
• 1:16:20
  Speaker 5: so it relieves stomach cramps and mestral cramps. Trying to
• 1:16:25
  Speaker 5: tying to its nurturing aspect, comforting physical pain as well
• 1:16:29
  Speaker 5: as emotional. These effects are mediated by peripheral nerves, including
• 1:16:33
  Speaker 5: the vagus nerve. By increasing vagial tone parisympathetic activity, lemon
• 1:16:38
  Speaker 5: balm helps relax the gut and uterus. It's no wonder.
• 1:16:42
  Speaker 5: A warm lemon balm tea is a folk remedy for
• 1:16:45
  Speaker 5: tummy aches and a calming tonic before bed. Gently encourages
• 1:16:49
  Speaker 5: digestive via vagial stimulation, often relieving indigestion that's to stress.
• 1:16:56
  Speaker 5: Another notable effect. Lemon balm has some anti viral properties,
• 1:17:00
  Speaker 5: especially against herpes virus and a topical use as well
• 1:17:04
  Speaker 5: as antibacteria antibacterial due to citral and other compounds. Applied
• 1:17:09
  Speaker 5: as a huh, but as a salve, it can help
• 1:17:15
  Speaker 5: cold source heels or however you say that lemon bomb
• 1:17:19
  Speaker 5: also reduces the time to fall asleep and improves sleep quality,
• 1:17:22
  Speaker 5: likely by its gabbar urgic sedation and anxiety relief. This
• 1:17:27
  Speaker 5: complements its lunar association in magic, aiding RESTful sleep and
• 1:17:31
  Speaker 5: possibly encouraging dreams. As for cognitive dream states, lemon bom
• 1:17:36
  Speaker 5: likely doesn't induce the vivid, intense dreams that mugwort might,
• 1:17:40
  Speaker 5: but rather softens nightmares and allows more peaceful dream narratives,
• 1:17:44
  Speaker 5: reflecting its gentle positivity. Summarizing lemon balm's neurological impact is
• 1:17:49
  Speaker 5: largely tranquilizing and mood normal gently slows and overactive mind,
• 1:17:54
  Speaker 5: lifts a depressed mind and sharpens a foggy mint, essentially
• 1:17:57
  Speaker 5: restoring balance. Chemically, it's doing this by influencing gabba for calm,
• 1:18:04
  Speaker 5: as a choline for memory, and possibly serotonin dopamine for mood.
• 1:18:08
  Speaker 5: It's quiet elegant. It's quite elegant that an herb used
• 1:18:12
  Speaker 5: for emotional healing and love literally causes your brain to
• 1:18:15
  Speaker 5: feel safe, lowered anxiety, and feel content elevated mood, which
• 1:18:20
  Speaker 5: are prerequisites for embracing love and joy. The way it
• 1:18:24
  Speaker 5: lowers stress markers would correspond in magical thinking to banishing
• 1:18:28
  Speaker 5: dark influences from the heart, and the way it improves
• 1:18:31
  Speaker 5: cognitive clarity would equate to bringing light and understanding. It's
• 1:18:35
  Speaker 5: also gentle enough not to cause radical shifts, fitting for
• 1:18:38
  Speaker 5: an herb of gentle renewal rather than drastic transformation. Lemon
• 1:18:43
  Speaker 5: balm is the subtle friend that over time rebuilds a
• 1:18:45
  Speaker 5: battered spirit by quieting the fear centers amygdala and nudging
• 1:18:50
  Speaker 5: the pleasure centers nucleus accumbance, et cetera. Thus, the nerves
• 1:18:54
  Speaker 5: literally find relief from tension and can resume normal, healthy function,
• 1:18:58
  Speaker 5: which we perceive as hope and cheerfulness. Attorney anything before
• 1:19:04
  Speaker 5: I move.
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  Speaker 1: On, Yeah, I would say that every pretty much any
• 1:19:10
  Speaker 1: formulation that would be recommended for a woman pre approaching
• 1:19:18
  Speaker 1: and post metopausal like, they always include Melissa officiallys for sure,
• 1:19:25
  Speaker 1: pretty much every single one I've ever read about. Yeah,
• 1:19:30
  Speaker 1: like a tea, a tincture, like any kind of formulation
• 1:19:33
  Speaker 1: that you would give to a woman that came reporting
• 1:19:38
  Speaker 1: complaints of being a woman includes lemon bomb, So that
• 1:19:43
  Speaker 1: checks for sure, all right?
• 1:19:47
  Speaker 2: Anyway, else, No, no, I see why it's my favorite.
• 1:19:52
  Speaker 2: Thanks for the inuation, man, I mean in an alert,
• 1:19:55
  Speaker 2: calm and well, increased alert, decreased anxiety, and increased intuition.
• 1:19:59
  Speaker 1: It's gonna get rid of those cramps too, Jason, I got.
• 1:20:04
  Speaker 2: I've got two girls in the house, so.
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  Speaker 4: You know, valid and valuable. And it helps with your
• 1:20:10
  Speaker 4: feminine side too.
• 1:20:12
  Speaker 2: It's it's my most valuable side. How do you think
• 1:20:19
  Speaker 2: I'm sand to talk to you so long? You had
• 1:20:21
  Speaker 2: some devil? You just make my liver quiver? Whoa? I
• 1:20:25
  Speaker 2: was suspicious as bad I was. What is happening?
• 1:20:31
  Speaker 5: Okay? I think we have to.
• 1:20:34
  Speaker 2: Thank in Living Color for that one. There was a
• 1:20:36
  Speaker 2: skit on when I was a kid, I'm serious, and
• 1:20:39
  Speaker 2: and they made remember they did the gay guys and
• 1:20:43
  Speaker 2: so all the kids and I remember, yeah, I remember
• 1:20:46
  Speaker 2: they loved that, and so my buddy and I started
• 1:20:48
  Speaker 2: doing impressions and the girls loved it. I mean, what
• 1:20:51
  Speaker 2: can I say? Take you home and put you on
• 1:20:53
  Speaker 2: a biscuit, you know, and the girls were just they
• 1:20:56
  Speaker 2: were all over it. Man. Sorry, it's your handsome face
• 1:21:03
  Speaker 2: you keep side railing us. Now, you with that comfortable
• 1:21:06
  Speaker 2: lounge chair, which I want, Well.
• 1:21:07
  Speaker 4: I'm sorry, I just can't help it. It's my natural
• 1:21:09
  Speaker 4: shower what's can I spec?
• 1:21:12
  Speaker 2: Did y'all notice that he blinks with one eye a lot?
• 1:21:14
  Speaker 2: Is that just me? Do I? So you're winking at me?
• 1:21:19
  Speaker 4: Is that it? I knew you were winking at me.
• 1:21:25
  Speaker 1: I got my eye on you, chasing I had I.
• 1:21:27
  Speaker 7: Had some lemon balm okay, uh, you want me to continue?
• 1:21:41
  Speaker 5: All right, I'm gonna jump over to us. Saint John's Ward.
• 1:21:45
  Speaker 5: Saint John's Ward has a long history of use in
• 1:21:47
  Speaker 5: folk magic, especially for protection and banishment of evil and
• 1:21:51
  Speaker 5: European folklore, was often hung above doorways or icons to
• 1:21:55
  Speaker 5: ward off maligned maloine spirits. One Latin nickname for it
• 1:21:59
  Speaker 5: it is a fuga ammonium, meaning demon flight, reflecting its
• 1:22:05
  Speaker 5: reputed power to drive away devils. Traditionally harvested around Midsummer
• 1:22:10
  Speaker 5: Saint John's Day, its bright yellow flowers were said to
• 1:22:13
  Speaker 5: embody the power of the sun. Bringing the fresh blossoms
• 1:22:16
  Speaker 5: into the home on Midsummer's Eve was thought to confer
• 1:22:19
  Speaker 5: protective and good fortune, which is in Healers also carried
• 1:22:24
  Speaker 5: Saint John's Wart as a protective talisman against hexes and
• 1:22:27
  Speaker 5: ill wishes. Burning Saint John's wart and bundles produces a
• 1:22:32
  Speaker 5: purifying smoke. The dry herb was and still is burned
• 1:22:35
  Speaker 5: to banish negativity and evil influences from a space. A
• 1:22:40
  Speaker 5: modern rich craft, it's associated with the element of fire
• 1:22:43
  Speaker 5: and the summer sun, used in spells to invoke courage, happiness,
• 1:22:47
  Speaker 5: and strength. In short, Saint John's wart has been regarded
• 1:22:50
  Speaker 5: as a bright guardian herb, simultaneously a physical wound healer
• 1:22:55
  Speaker 5: and a spiritual protector capable of dispelling darkness neurological effects.
• 1:23:02
  Speaker 5: The venerable reputation of Saint John's wort as a bomb
• 1:23:05
  Speaker 5: for the nerves and lines with its scientifically observed effects
• 1:23:08
  Speaker 5: on the nervous system. Additionally, is the most famous as
• 1:23:12
  Speaker 5: an herbal, antidepressant, and solitic. Bio Chemical studies show that
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  Speaker 5: extracts of Saint John's wort inhibit a re uptake of
• 1:23:21
  Speaker 5: several neurotransmitters serotonin, nor repinephrine, dopamine, GABBA, and glutamate, and
• 1:23:32
  Speaker 5: even modulate receptors expression. In particular interest, it has an
• 1:23:36
  Speaker 5: effect on the vegus nerve, the major parasympathetic nerve connecting
• 1:23:41
  Speaker 5: brainstem to heart, lungs, and gut. Research has demonstrated that
• 1:23:46
  Speaker 5: Saint John's wort can enhance aagal nerve activity. In vitro,
• 1:23:50
  Speaker 5: experiments found the herb increases lutamate release from vagile nerve
• 1:23:55
  Speaker 5: endings in the brain's nucleus of the solitary tract, effectively
• 1:23:59
  Speaker 5: boost vegel neurotransmission. This suggests that Saint John's Wart can
• 1:24:04
  Speaker 5: activate parasympathetic pathways that regulate homeostasis, heart rate, and digestin,
• 1:24:11
  Speaker 5: which may partly explain its calming, mood stabilizing influence. Clinically,
• 1:24:16
  Speaker 5: Saint John's Wart has been used to relieve neualgia, nerve pain,
• 1:24:21
  Speaker 5: and reduce anxiety. Intention. The herb's active compound hyperform appears
• 1:24:26
  Speaker 5: to contribute to its antidepressive effect by increasing neurotransmitter availability. Thus,
• 1:24:33
  Speaker 5: Saint John's Wort not only chases away demons in a
• 1:24:36
  Speaker 5: metaphorical sense, but also alleviates in a darkness by acting
• 1:24:40
  Speaker 5: on the central nervous system by enhancing vagus nerve signaling
• 1:24:44
  Speaker 5: and modulating neurochemistry, and induces a state of calm and optimism,
• 1:24:49
  Speaker 5: consistent with its role in magic as a bringer of
• 1:24:51
  Speaker 5: light and protection. Modern research continues to explore Saint John's
• 1:24:56
  Speaker 5: wort neuropharmacology but it's clear this magical herb doubles as
• 1:25:00
  Speaker 5: a nervine uplifting rood, soothing the anxious mind and perhaps
• 1:25:05
  Speaker 5: even strengthening the automic balance via the vegas earth. All right,
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  Speaker 5: I'm good on that pretty much. To say anything, I'll
• 1:25:16
  Speaker 5: move on to the mandrake. It's another one of my favorites.
• 1:25:22
  Speaker 5: The mandrake. Mandrake is one of the most iconic plants
• 1:25:25
  Speaker 5: in witchcraft. Shrouded and legend in fear, its forked root
• 1:25:28
  Speaker 5: often resembles a human figure, which led to the famous
• 1:25:31
  Speaker 5: myth that when pulled from the ground, it would admit
• 1:25:34
  Speaker 5: a deadly scream, a folk lore motive dating back to
• 1:25:37
  Speaker 5: at least Josephus in the first century, and repeated by
• 1:25:42
  Speaker 5: Iron Maiden in Moonchild here the Mandrake scream. In medieval Europe,
• 1:25:47
  Speaker 5: mandrake roots were prized as a powerful magical talisman. The
• 1:25:50
  Speaker 5: whole mandrake roots, sometimes carved into a human shape if
• 1:25:53
  Speaker 5: nature's form was lacking, might be kept as a household
• 1:25:56
  Speaker 5: charm for prosperity and protection, even fed with offerings. As
• 1:26:00
  Speaker 5: a familiar spirit, mandrake was a key ingredient in many
• 1:26:05
  Speaker 5: flying ointment recipes, solves that which is apply to induce
• 1:26:09
  Speaker 5: trans states, astro projection, or visionary flights. These ointments capitalize
• 1:26:15
  Speaker 5: on Mandrake's entheogenic vision, inducing tropine alkaloids to produce mind
• 1:26:21
  Speaker 5: altering experiences. In ancient Mediterranean cultures, mandrake roots were used
• 1:26:26
  Speaker 5: as aphrodisiacs and fertility charms. It appears in the Bible's
• 1:26:30
  Speaker 5: Book of Genesis thirty fourteen as a fertility eight. During
• 1:26:34
  Speaker 5: the Renaissance, cunning folk with prepared mandrake emulets, often called
• 1:26:39
  Speaker 5: al rooms in German folklore, said to bring great riches
• 1:26:43
  Speaker 5: and serve their owner as a magical servant. Now, the
• 1:26:47
  Speaker 5: neurological effects the extraordinary myths around mandrake are rooted in
• 1:26:50
  Speaker 5: a very real physiological effect. Mandrake contains tropaine. I'm saying
• 1:26:57
  Speaker 5: that correctly alkaloids, notably hiocene, scopalamine, atropine, and others, which
• 1:27:06
  Speaker 5: are powerful delirium hallucinagens and anti cholinergic agents. These compounds
• 1:27:14
  Speaker 5: act on the nervous system in profound ways. Scopal scopolamine,
• 1:27:19
  Speaker 5: and atropine block acidicaline receptors, specifically muscarinic receptors through the body,
• 1:27:26
  Speaker 5: inducing including in the brain and in the parasynthetic nervous system.
• 1:27:31
  Speaker 5: The result is a host of neurological and autonomic effects,
• 1:27:35
  Speaker 5: often dubbed belladonna delirium. Mandrake is the night shade family
• 1:27:40
  Speaker 5: along with Belladonna. Physiologically, Mandrake's alkaloids can impair several cranial
• 1:27:47
  Speaker 5: nerve functions by inhibiting parasympathetic signaling. For instance, blocking the
• 1:27:54
  Speaker 5: ocula okalomotor nerve third one outputs causes pupils to dilate
• 1:28:00
  Speaker 5: and accommodation to be lost. Atropine was historic. It was
• 1:28:04
  Speaker 5: historically used to dilate pupils on safely blocking facial uh
• 1:28:11
  Speaker 5: via the seventh and also had these words glossal uh
• 1:28:17
  Speaker 5: phar and egal or whatever I'm saying that wrong. The
• 1:28:20
  Speaker 5: ninth nerve nerve para parasympathetic fibers reduce reduces salvation, so
• 1:28:26
  Speaker 5: you get dry mouth as a classic symptom of mandrake.
• 1:28:29
  Speaker 5: Poisoning and blocking the vegus nerve can raise heart rate
• 1:28:32
  Speaker 5: and inhibit digestive peristola peristalsis, and higher doses Mandrake alkaloids
• 1:28:41
  Speaker 5: cross into central nervous system, causing hallucinations, confusions, and sedation.
• 1:28:47
  Speaker 5: Users of whichcraft flying potions would experience vivid hallucinations, often
• 1:28:51
  Speaker 5: feeling as if they were flying or entering of the
• 1:28:54
  Speaker 5: worldly realms due to Mandrake's action on the brain neurotransmission transmitters.
• 1:29:00
  Speaker 5: Mandrake was also used as a soporific anesthetic and ancient medicine.
• 1:29:07
  Speaker 5: The Assyrians, Greeks and others use Mandrake extracts to induce
• 1:29:11
  Speaker 5: deep sleep for surgery or anestes. This points to Mandrake's
• 1:29:15
  Speaker 5: the present effect on the central nervous system at appropriate dosages,
• 1:29:20
  Speaker 5: likely involving suppression of neural firing and pain pathways. Notably,
• 1:29:25
  Speaker 5: scopalamine has an anti antiemetic and calming effect on the
• 1:29:31
  Speaker 5: vestibular system associated with the cranial nerve eight, which is
• 1:29:35
  Speaker 5: why scopalamine from a relative plant is used in modern
• 1:29:39
  Speaker 5: motion sickness patches, and Mandrake's case, a dose sufficient to
• 1:29:43
  Speaker 5: calm a sedate could easily lead to toxicity. Symptoms of
• 1:29:47
  Speaker 5: mandrake poisoning include dizziness, vision disturbances, dry mucous membranes, rapid heartbeat,
• 1:29:52
  Speaker 5: and unconsciousness. Reflecting its broad neurological impact. In essence, mandrake
• 1:29:58
  Speaker 5: can hijack doautonomic nerves. It powerfully inhibits the parasympathetic parasympathetic
• 1:30:03
  Speaker 5: outflow the vegas nerve included, while also causing delirium veria
• 1:30:08
  Speaker 5: central cholinergic blockage. The flight experienced by witches may have
• 1:30:14
  Speaker 5: been their minds reacting to vestibular disconnect and halluciness hallin
• 1:30:19
  Speaker 5: hallucinations caused by Mandrake. Mandrake's power over life and death
• 1:30:24
  Speaker 5: and magic mirrors its pharmacology reality. The same route that
• 1:30:28
  Speaker 5: can number pain and bring on dream like trances can
• 1:30:32
  Speaker 5: in overdose, race, arrest of vegas controlled functions like respirations,
• 1:30:37
  Speaker 5: and be lethal.
• 1:30:41
  Speaker 4: So I was hearing you and this pop into my
• 1:30:45
  Speaker 4: mind at the beginning. Could it be that the Venus
• 1:30:50
  Speaker 4: figurines are somewhat related to the Mandrake roots, because there's
• 1:30:54
  Speaker 4: sometimes they look very similar.
• 1:30:58
  Speaker 5: They say that again.
• 1:30:59
  Speaker 4: I'm sorry the Venus, the Venus figurines, that the entrance
• 1:31:02
  Speaker 4: statues of Stone of the Fat Ladies, they look like
• 1:31:10
  Speaker 4: some Mandray crews I've seen. If there is some connection there.
• 1:31:19
  Speaker 6: I've never put that together before.
• 1:31:21
  Speaker 2: M somebody get nixt some ginger.
• 1:31:24
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I hit the wrong I hit the wrong new
• 1:31:28
  Speaker 5: button to but.
• 1:31:30
  Speaker 4: It could be a symbol of of of magic of
• 1:31:32
  Speaker 4: ritual because of the of the sense that it has.
• 1:31:37
  Speaker 5: I never thought of it as look at it as
• 1:31:38
  Speaker 5: a female as just so there's like a hangman or
• 1:31:40
  Speaker 5: a stick fingers.
• 1:31:43
  Speaker 2: A quick question, Nick, So, after listening to that horrific
• 1:31:47
  Speaker 2: list of not quite deadly effects, what are some of
• 1:31:51
  Speaker 2: the actual practical applications of man drake.
• 1:31:55
  Speaker 5: I have heard people burning it like in an incense
• 1:31:58
  Speaker 5: or actually just putting it on their old Okay, yeah,
• 1:32:02
  Speaker 5: I've never heard of anybody ingesting it. I mean, I
• 1:32:06
  Speaker 5: I be honest. I had bandrink in the past and
• 1:32:08
  Speaker 5: I threw it on truckle makes an insht.
• 1:32:10
  Speaker 1: I didn't know what the Yeah, it's not something that
• 1:32:12
  Speaker 1: you find in a lot of formulations.
• 1:32:14
  Speaker 2: Or any that I know is a rarer one.
• 1:32:18
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that I can think of in particular. What I
• 1:32:21
  Speaker 1: do know about it is that the dose, like the
• 1:32:24
  Speaker 1: dosage range between having an effect that is non toxic
• 1:32:30
  Speaker 1: and one that is toxic is very small. Yeah, like wow,
• 1:32:35
  Speaker 1: So the amount that you need it would probably probably
• 1:32:40
  Speaker 1: be based on like how you're adjusting it and based
• 1:32:43
  Speaker 1: on your weight and the amount that is safe to
• 1:32:48
  Speaker 1: ingest versus the amount that is unsafe to ingest is
• 1:32:52
  Speaker 1: likely very very very close. So it's probably not something
• 1:32:56
  Speaker 1: you want to be messing around with. That's my thoughts.
• 1:33:04
  Speaker 5: Yeah, for sure. How much how much some of we got?
• 1:33:08
  Speaker 5: Maybe I do one more. I don't know how much?
• 1:33:10
  Speaker 5: How much? How much more you want me to go on?
• 1:33:14
  Speaker 6: We got thirty minutes?
• 1:33:15
  Speaker 5: Yeah, all right, you know what I'm gonna do. High Sup.
• 1:33:18
  Speaker 5: It was one that was gonna leave out. It's a
• 1:33:20
  Speaker 5: little longer one, but it's actually one of my favorite
• 1:33:22
  Speaker 5: and I used to use it all the time, and
• 1:33:25
  Speaker 5: I think it interestingly is the reason I even picked
• 1:33:27
  Speaker 5: it up is that it was in one of Croley's works,
• 1:33:31
  Speaker 5: and the guy literally is taking a quote out of
• 1:33:32
  Speaker 5: the Bible when he uses it too. I don't even
• 1:33:34
  Speaker 5: think half the people realize that.
• 1:33:38
  Speaker 6: They usually don't.
• 1:33:39
  Speaker 5: Yeah, high Sup. Again. It's known as a biblical purifying
• 1:33:44
  Speaker 5: and remover of negativity. And this is exactly part of
• 1:33:48
  Speaker 5: what I would use say when I would use this stuff,
• 1:33:51
  Speaker 5: Purge me with high Sap, and I shall be clean,
• 1:33:53
  Speaker 5: says Psalm fifty one, encapsulating High Sup's millennial old reputation
• 1:33:58
  Speaker 5: as the premiere herb of spiritual puretion and biblical and
• 1:34:02
  Speaker 5: folk tradition, high sup is used to cleanse and consecrate.
• 1:34:06
  Speaker 5: Was referenced as being dipped in holy water or blood
• 1:34:08
  Speaker 5: to sprinkle to sprinkle door posts in the Old Testament Exodus,
• 1:34:13
  Speaker 5: protecting the Hebrews during Passover. Thus, high sup became a
• 1:34:16
  Speaker 5: symbol of purification from sin or evil. Today, magicians and
• 1:34:21
  Speaker 5: root workers rely on high sup and rituals of uncrossing,
• 1:34:24
  Speaker 5: hext breaking and ritual cleansing and hudoo. Hsup is the
• 1:34:28
  Speaker 5: main ingredient in the famous thirteenth herbath for spiritual purification,
• 1:34:33
  Speaker 5: especially after one has engaged in negative deeds or performed
• 1:34:37
  Speaker 5: corusive performed coercive magic. One bathe is in high sup
• 1:34:41
  Speaker 5: infusion praying Psalm fifty one to remove spiritual dirt and
• 1:34:44
  Speaker 5: regain God's favor. High sup can be added to scrub
• 1:34:48
  Speaker 5: water to literally and spiritually clean floors and walls of temples.
• 1:34:55
  Speaker 5: It's common use. It's common to use high up in
• 1:34:58
  Speaker 5: water to wash magical implements or to add to laundry
• 1:35:01
  Speaker 5: for ritual garments, believing it diffuses them with holiness. Likewise,
• 1:35:06
  Speaker 5: burning highs up as an incense or carrying a high
• 1:35:09
  Speaker 5: sup sachet is thought to ward off evil and negativity,
• 1:35:12
  Speaker 5: almost akin to a spiritual disinfecting. Because high sup has
• 1:35:16
  Speaker 5: strong religious connotation, it is often used when one seeks
• 1:35:19
  Speaker 5: forgiveness or blessing. Practitioners might taste a height take a
• 1:35:23
  Speaker 5: high sup bad after casting a nasty spell to cleanse
• 1:35:27
  Speaker 5: any comic residue. Wickens may use high up to ritually
• 1:35:31
  Speaker 5: purify a circle, or if they feel a malevolent presence
• 1:35:34
  Speaker 5: needs to be banished gently. Some sources say a state
• 1:35:38
  Speaker 5: high sup is good for protection of the home, growing
• 1:35:41
  Speaker 5: it around the property, or hanging dried high sup in
• 1:35:44
  Speaker 5: sachets by windows by windows is said to keep out
• 1:35:48
  Speaker 5: on clean spirits. In solemonic magical tradition, high sup was
• 1:35:54
  Speaker 5: used to sprinkle lustrial water to sanctify the altar and circle,
• 1:35:58
  Speaker 5: again highlighting that as pure as hiesub. It's worth noting
• 1:36:04
  Speaker 5: historically that the highs above the Bible might have been
• 1:36:07
  Speaker 5: a different plant, possibly Syrian oregano, but the occult tradition
• 1:36:10
  Speaker 5: has long identified common high sup. It was the biblical one,
• 1:36:14
  Speaker 5: and the energetic signature is considered similar. Aromatic and cleansing
• 1:36:20
  Speaker 5: magical correspondences list highs up as a Mars herb due
• 1:36:23
  Speaker 5: to its disinfectant and vanishing quality, but with a jerputer
• 1:36:27
  Speaker 5: a Jupiter overtone spiritual grace and forgiveness, perhaps explaining why
• 1:36:32
  Speaker 5: it both casts out on cleanness Mars and invites divine
• 1:36:35
  Speaker 5: blessing Jupiter. Astrologically, some align it with Sagittarius, the sign
• 1:36:40
  Speaker 5: of spiritual principles and cleansing fire. Many covens add high
• 1:36:45
  Speaker 5: sup oil to their holy water to incorporate hyesup in
• 1:36:48
  Speaker 5: the sprinkler to consecrate circles. The neuro andphysiological effects why
• 1:36:54
  Speaker 5: high sup is less studied than while hasup is less
• 1:36:57
  Speaker 5: studied than many common herbs. It shares proper with other
• 1:37:00
  Speaker 5: aromatic Mediterranean herbs like sage time or regano that allow
• 1:37:04
  Speaker 5: some educated guesses In a few known facts. Chemically, h
• 1:37:08
  Speaker 5: sub contains of volatile oil, including pina camphone I'm saying
• 1:37:13
  Speaker 5: that right through drone camphor siniol, among others. These components
• 1:37:18
  Speaker 5: suggest high sup is a stimulate, a stimulate in small
• 1:37:21
  Speaker 5: doses and potentially convulsant in very high doses if overused. Historically,
• 1:37:29
  Speaker 5: high sup oil causes seizures in animals at high concentrations. However,
• 1:37:34
  Speaker 5: in the mild forms it's used bathing, in sense and tea.
• 1:37:37
  Speaker 5: Higesep's effect is to act as a mild, nerving and
• 1:37:40
  Speaker 5: decongested The scent of high sup is herbaceous in camphors
• 1:37:44
  Speaker 5: Inhaling high sup via incense or stream inhalation can clear
• 1:37:48
  Speaker 5: the sinuses and give a sense of easy breathing and alertness,
• 1:37:52
  Speaker 5: similar to how eucalyptus or camphor perks one up. This
• 1:37:56
  Speaker 5: would stimulate trigeminal nerve endings in the nasal cabin strongly,
• 1:38:01
  Speaker 5: which has the effect of sharpened detention and a feeling
• 1:38:04
  Speaker 5: of freshness. If one is fatigued or the mind is clouded,
• 1:38:07
  Speaker 5: hysops aroma can cut through the mental fog, momentarily increasing
• 1:38:11
  Speaker 5: heart rate and blood flow. This correlates to the idea
• 1:38:14
  Speaker 5: of clearing away negativity. Physically, it's clearing brain flog, brain fog,
• 1:38:20
  Speaker 5: and maybe mild headaches. As camphor orphan relieves tension headaches
• 1:38:24
  Speaker 5: via its counter irritant action of the trigemical nerve on
• 1:38:28
  Speaker 5: the olympic system. Hysops Aroma may not be universally pleasant.
• 1:38:32
  Speaker 5: It's a bit medicinal, but to those who like it,
• 1:38:35
  Speaker 5: it could evoke feelings of cleanliness and safety, which could
• 1:38:39
  Speaker 5: reduce amygdala hyperactivity less fear less anxiety. No direct studies
• 1:38:44
  Speaker 5: on ISoP for anxiety exist to my knowledge, but many
• 1:38:47
  Speaker 5: herbs and the same family and the mint family do
• 1:38:50
  Speaker 5: have a theiolotic properties. Antioltic properties. High sept was traditionally
• 1:38:57
  Speaker 5: used for respiratory issues. It can help suppress costs and
• 1:39:00
  Speaker 5: loosened phlegm, so drinking high SUP or breathing it in
• 1:39:03
  Speaker 5: not only symbolically cleanses cleanses your lungs, that literally does
• 1:39:07
  Speaker 5: some To an extent. This lung clarity can translate to
• 1:39:11
  Speaker 5: a subjective feeling of relief and more oxygen, improving brain
• 1:39:14
  Speaker 5: function and mood. Penal camphone, if I'm saying that correctly
• 1:39:19
  Speaker 5: a pinocamphone is somewhat anti spasmodic, which could help relieve
• 1:39:23
  Speaker 5: muscle tension, again contributing to an overall sense of release.
• 1:39:29
  Speaker 5: High SEP's anti microbile qualities are notable. It affects against
• 1:39:34
  Speaker 5: certain bacteria and fungi. Using high SUP in a flow
• 1:39:37
  Speaker 5: wash or as a skin wash likely genuine likely genuinely
• 1:39:41
  Speaker 5: reduces microbio load, thus purifying in a literal sense. This
• 1:39:46
  Speaker 5: could reduce a source of infection which could cloud the
• 1:39:49
  Speaker 5: mind via inflammation. A modern terms, lowering chronic pathogen load
• 1:39:54
  Speaker 5: can improve more mood and cognitive clarity. Now, if we
• 1:39:57
  Speaker 5: think of neurotransmitters, high sup has been studied for direct
• 1:40:01
  Speaker 5: receptor interactions like some herbs, but given it's in the
• 1:40:05
  Speaker 5: mint family, one might speculate some gabbarigic effect is mild
• 1:40:09
  Speaker 5: or adrenaline modulation. Its effect profile modually stimulating but also
• 1:40:15
  Speaker 5: relieving when used in warmth, suggested by phasic action. By
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  Speaker 5: phasic action at the first bit of stimulation, increase alertness,
• 1:40:25
  Speaker 5: maybe mild adrenaline release from the trigeminal joke, followed by
• 1:40:29
  Speaker 5: relaxation as the body acclimates and peripheral circulation improves. Perhaps
• 1:40:34
  Speaker 5: then parasympathetic rebound. This is similar to how a cleansing
• 1:40:39
  Speaker 5: cry or brisk shower can invigorate then relax you deeply.
• 1:40:43
  Speaker 5: Fitting for ISSOP, which is used in water for that
• 1:40:45
  Speaker 5: exact emotional dynamic, First you might tremble as negativity is
• 1:40:50
  Speaker 5: confronted adrenaline flush, then you feel deeply calm as it
• 1:40:54
  Speaker 5: washes away parasympathetic relief. High SUPs psychological actions online with
• 1:41:01
  Speaker 5: its cleansing banishing magical persona. It clears airways, vanishing in congestion,
• 1:41:06
  Speaker 5: stimulates alertness, banishing mental cloud kills germs, vanishing impurity, relaxes
• 1:41:12
  Speaker 5: muscle and smooth muscle, banishing physical tension or negativity held
• 1:41:16
  Speaker 5: in the body, and possibly calms after stimulation and granting
• 1:41:20
  Speaker 5: peace if the sin is banished. The ritual aspect of
• 1:41:23
  Speaker 5: sprinkling or bathing likely leverages the fact that cool water
• 1:41:27
  Speaker 5: and hyges up on skin trigger nerve endings that induced
• 1:41:30
  Speaker 5: a slight shock followed by calm, essentially resetting the nervous system,
• 1:41:34
  Speaker 5: much like a baptism's cold water might. Indeed, from a
• 1:41:38
  Speaker 5: sensory perspective, being sprinkled by high sub bundle and a
• 1:41:41
  Speaker 5: cool holy water would activate a lot of cutaneous nerves. Suddenly.
• 1:41:47
  Speaker 5: The initial shot could momentarily blank out your thoughts, much
• 1:41:50
  Speaker 5: like a splash of water to the face interrupts whatever
• 1:41:52
  Speaker 5: you're thinking, providing a clean slate. And then as you
• 1:41:55
  Speaker 5: feel the water trickling descent of hyes up and take
• 1:41:58
  Speaker 5: a deep breath, natural transitioning into a calmer state. This
• 1:42:03
  Speaker 5: moll psychological mini reset of the nervous system is perhaps
• 1:42:06
  Speaker 5: one reason such rituals subjectively feel effective. The harness and
• 1:42:11
  Speaker 5: involuntary nerve reflex to symbolically achieve the desired mental state,
• 1:42:17
  Speaker 5: and then thus the hyup's power is partly a suggestion, yes,
• 1:42:22
  Speaker 5: but underpinned by real sensory and neural triggers. It's fascinating
• 1:42:26
  Speaker 5: and poetic that the pleas of ancient texts to be
• 1:42:28
  Speaker 5: cleansed with hyesup coincide with a nerve that can truly
• 1:42:31
  Speaker 5: cleanse the body and mind in measurable ways. In conclusion,
• 1:42:35
  Speaker 5: hysop engages our nerves in a purging and resetting process,
• 1:42:39
  Speaker 5: a quick stimulation than a clearing calm. Analogist to spiritual
• 1:42:43
  Speaker 5: purifications arc effacing the negativity, then it's spelling it and
• 1:42:47
  Speaker 5: finding stillness. The result is a person who literally feels lighter,
• 1:42:51
  Speaker 5: breathes easier, and has a clearer mind, paralleling paralleling the
• 1:42:55
  Speaker 5: spiritual feeling of being absolved and protected and protected. Hies
• 1:43:00
  Speaker 5: up is a sterling example of an herb whose legendary
• 1:43:03
  Speaker 5: magical effects a line uncannily with its neural uh neural
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  Speaker 5: physical actions. The herbs of the Bible knew their stuff.
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  Speaker 1: Uh.
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  Speaker 5: Anybody want to say anything on that one. I was saying,
• 1:43:17
  Speaker 5: look a different way.
• 1:43:18
  Speaker 1: I've used a I had a bad lung infection a
• 1:43:22
  Speaker 1: lot of phlegm, like the gross kind. We've all had it,
• 1:43:25
  Speaker 1: so we know what I'm talking about. And used an
• 1:43:28
  Speaker 1: elderberry and high sep cough expectorant And it's no joke.
• 1:43:33
  Speaker 1: It works so good. It worked. It was so fast,
• 1:43:38
  Speaker 1: like you know when you get a cold and you
• 1:43:39
  Speaker 1: go or like an infection and you get something from
• 1:43:43
  Speaker 1: the doctor. They give it antibiotic and it takes a
• 1:43:45
  Speaker 1: couple of days for it to really kind of loosen
• 1:43:47
  Speaker 1: it and go that this cough syrup that I found
• 1:43:50
  Speaker 1: that I used, it was like I was up all
• 1:43:53
  Speaker 1: through the night, but by the morning my chest was clear,
• 1:43:57
  Speaker 1: like so it was super It's super effective. So it
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  Speaker 1: doesn't surprise me that the like, given the medicinal properties
• 1:44:05
  Speaker 1: that it has, that it's equated with a herb that
• 1:44:09
  Speaker 1: clears or cleans or you know, people use it ritually
• 1:44:13
  Speaker 1: as a way to clear a space. Definitely definitely lines
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  Speaker 1: up for me.
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  Speaker 8: Nick, can you give me the spelling of that hyssop?
• 1:44:24
  Speaker 8: I think it is sorry already like skipped up so
• 1:44:28
  Speaker 8: far from.
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  Speaker 1: Where Plus it looks it looks like it kind of
• 1:44:33
  Speaker 1: looks like lavender. A lot of people plant it as
• 1:44:35
  Speaker 1: like a like a in their garden because it's pretty
• 1:44:39
  Speaker 1: because it has like these little dainty purple flowers very
• 1:44:42
  Speaker 1: similar to lavender. So and it grows like it grows
• 1:44:46
  Speaker 1: like mad. You don't have to do anything to it.
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  Speaker 1: So I know a lot of people plant it just
• 1:44:50
  Speaker 1: for the sake of what it looks like.
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  Speaker 4: But what I'm taking for all that Nique presented here
• 1:44:57
  Speaker 4: is and from what check Ling said this, all of
• 1:45:02
  Speaker 4: these herbs seemed like, for instance, the last one you're
• 1:45:05
  Speaker 4: described as anti spasmodic, but three minutes before you said
• 1:45:11
  Speaker 4: you can lead into seizures. So it's every single one
• 1:45:15
  Speaker 4: of them seems that have a threshold where they can
• 1:45:20
  Speaker 4: either help you or they can actually kill you or
• 1:45:23
  Speaker 4: lead into serious health problems. So it's that threshold that
• 1:45:29
  Speaker 4: I find interesting because in some of them, as Jacqueline said,
• 1:45:32
  Speaker 4: it's so small, it could be just a gram of
• 1:45:35
  Speaker 4: it above that it will be highly toxic, and beneath
• 1:45:39
  Speaker 4: that it will it will help you. So it's the
• 1:45:43
  Speaker 4: duality present in all of these elements that we can
• 1:45:48
  Speaker 4: take in that it fascinates me because they have dual purposes.
• 1:45:52
  Speaker 4: It depends on how you want to use it. You
• 1:45:54
  Speaker 4: can use it for good or you can use it
• 1:45:55
  Speaker 4: for evil.
• 1:45:56
  Speaker 5: It it's just.
• 1:45:58
  Speaker 4: It's like the nature is telling you here it is, now,
• 1:46:03
  Speaker 4: show us what you want to do with it.
• 1:46:06
  Speaker 6: Well, the same is true for water. I mean, you
• 1:46:08
  Speaker 6: need it to live, but too much will kill you.
• 1:46:15
  Speaker 4: Everything is about balance, then, true, need a count for balance?
• 1:46:22
  Speaker 2: F three? Fucking no centicle woman fans. Okay, it's just
• 1:46:30
  Speaker 2: me al Pacino what He's about to kill himself in
• 1:46:37
  Speaker 2: the bathroom and Chris, you know, is tried to save him.
• 1:46:40
  Speaker 2: He says, I'm going to do it. You need a
• 1:46:41
  Speaker 2: count for balance?
• 1:46:43
  Speaker 5: Fine?
• 1:46:44
  Speaker 4: Four three?
• 1:46:45
  Speaker 2: Fuck it? And he gets it right there and he
• 1:46:47
  Speaker 2: runs in and gets the gun and they rest on
• 1:46:49
  Speaker 2: the ground. That's great, mom, watch it every Thanksgiving. Actually, Jason,
• 1:46:59
  Speaker 2: what have you to you about the solve yet? Before
• 1:47:02
  Speaker 2: You're coming into the lemon balmb Dude, it's the lemon.
• 1:47:06
  Speaker 2: It's this alert, relaxedness that gets you in trouble every.
• 1:47:11
  Speaker 5: Time a lemon balm Ma do it?
• 1:47:15
  Speaker 4: I know, and it gives you.
• 1:47:16
  Speaker 2: The sense memory of third grade because it sounds like
• 1:47:19
  Speaker 2: the lemonhead candies you know, used to suck on to
• 1:47:22
  Speaker 2: stay awake in church, So it's just powerful stuff that
• 1:47:25
  Speaker 2: lemon bom mm hmm.
• 1:47:29
  Speaker 5: All right, uh, I think I'll do one more on well,
• 1:47:32
  Speaker 5: but we'll see where we're at after this one. I
• 1:47:34
  Speaker 5: picked this one up especially for you again, Ricordo. Actually
• 1:47:37
  Speaker 5: skip down for this one. Yew tree. Youw tree is
• 1:47:42
  Speaker 5: steeped in magic and myth and magic as a symbol
• 1:47:44
  Speaker 5: of death, rebirth, and the gateway to the other world.
• 1:47:47
  Speaker 5: Often found in Asian graveyards. Yous can live for millennia,
• 1:47:51
  Speaker 5: which gave them an aura of immortality, even even as
• 1:47:54
  Speaker 5: a dark foliage and poisonous nature linked them to mortality.
• 1:47:59
  Speaker 5: In health and Germanic lore, you is considered as one
• 1:48:02
  Speaker 5: of the most powerful trees. It was one of the
• 1:48:05
  Speaker 5: sacred chieftain trees of Island and is associated with ancestor
• 1:48:08
  Speaker 5: communion and funerary rites. Magically, you wood or needles are
• 1:48:13
  Speaker 5: used for an ancestral magic and spirit communication. For instance,
• 1:48:17
  Speaker 5: burning a small piece of you or placing it on
• 1:48:20
  Speaker 5: the altar is thought to help bridge the living and
• 1:48:22
  Speaker 5: the dead, inviting ancestral guidance, but always with caution due
• 1:48:26
  Speaker 5: to use powerful vibrations. U also serves as a protective charm.
• 1:48:31
  Speaker 5: Sprigs of you were buried with the dead to guard
• 1:48:33
  Speaker 5: their souls and planted around graveyards to contain restless spirits.
• 1:48:38
  Speaker 5: This translate into This translates into magical practice as using
• 1:48:41
  Speaker 5: you to ward off evil spirits and negative energies, especially
• 1:48:45
  Speaker 5: those connected with death or curses. For example, a wand
• 1:48:50
  Speaker 5: made of you is traditionally considered extremely potent for banishing
• 1:48:53
  Speaker 5: and necromantic work, capable of commanding spirits and legend, which
• 1:48:58
  Speaker 5: is and sorcerers often had used the nineteenth century magical
• 1:49:03
  Speaker 5: orders use you was sometimes included in rituals of transformation
• 1:49:07
  Speaker 5: or ego death to symbolize the shedding of the old
• 1:49:11
  Speaker 5: self and the rebirth of the initiate, the direct echo
• 1:49:14
  Speaker 5: of the tree's evergreen life. A myth admits mist death
• 1:49:18
  Speaker 5: imagery use dual aspect, toxic yet long lived, made it
• 1:49:24
  Speaker 5: a symbol of life in death. Some sources note that
• 1:49:28
  Speaker 5: carrying a bit of you can make one invisible or
• 1:49:31
  Speaker 5: protected from physical harm. This is echoed by the myth
• 1:49:34
  Speaker 5: that wearing a sprig of you can let one walk
• 1:49:36
  Speaker 5: in the underworld unseen by its change. You wood has been.
• 1:49:41
  Speaker 5: You has been used to carve runs and talismans for
• 1:49:45
  Speaker 5: powerful protection and magical potency, notably the Norse ruins uh
• 1:49:50
  Speaker 5: Norse runs awas is the U Run, representing the world tree,
• 1:49:56
  Speaker 5: connecting worlds as well as defense and transcendence. Magically, this
• 1:50:01
  Speaker 5: rouine and the wood itself are invoked for shamanic journeys,
• 1:50:04
  Speaker 5: accessing past lives or ancestral memories, and enduring great trials.
• 1:50:09
  Speaker 5: You is also tied to Hecate and the end of
• 1:50:13
  Speaker 5: the world and underworld deities. In Roman rits, wreaths of
• 1:50:17
  Speaker 5: jew adorned sacrifices to Hecta, emphasizing its role in dark
• 1:50:22
  Speaker 5: moon sorcery and crossroads magic, which graft today. You is
• 1:50:27
  Speaker 5: approached with respect. It's included in spell work that deals
• 1:50:30
  Speaker 5: with serious transitions, binding or reversing death cures, and communicating
• 1:50:35
  Speaker 5: with the departed, always with the caveat of its toxicity,
• 1:50:40
  Speaker 5: both literally and energetically. Some which has annoy candles with
• 1:50:45
  Speaker 5: you infused oil for sam Hayne to honor and invite ancestors.
• 1:50:50
  Speaker 5: You is thus quintessential crone tree, embodying ancient wisdom, the
• 1:50:55
  Speaker 5: power of endings and beginnings, and the deep protection that
• 1:50:59
  Speaker 5: comes from understanding death. To use you magically is to
• 1:51:03
  Speaker 5: invoke very old patonic forces. It can it can defend
• 1:51:07
  Speaker 5: against malignant spirits, though it's deathly power which they fear,
• 1:51:11
  Speaker 5: and facilitate profound transformation the neurological effects. The U tree
• 1:51:17
  Speaker 5: is infamous for its toxicity, containing alkaloids taxin A and
• 1:51:22
  Speaker 5: B that are potent cardiotoxins and also affect the nervous
• 1:51:26
  Speaker 5: system in Thus, in physiological terms, ingesting you, even small
• 1:51:32
  Speaker 5: amounts of leaves or seas can cause serious disruption of
• 1:51:35
  Speaker 5: the autotomic nervous system and cardiac conduction. Taxine alkaloids primarily
• 1:51:42
  Speaker 5: block calcium channels and heart and nerve cells, leading to
• 1:51:45
  Speaker 5: outcomes like oh Man. These were bradia cardia, a slow
• 1:51:50
  Speaker 5: heart rate, hypertension, and eventually lethal heart block. From a
• 1:51:55
  Speaker 5: neurological perspective, one of the hallmark signs of YOU poisoning
• 1:51:59
  Speaker 5: is trembling and convulsions prior to collapse. These neurological disturbances
• 1:52:06
  Speaker 5: shaking muscle spasms indicate that use compounds are affecting the
• 1:52:10
  Speaker 5: central nervous system's control of muscle function, likely by causing
• 1:52:14
  Speaker 5: an imbalance of electrolytes. And neurons due to channel blocking,
• 1:52:19
  Speaker 5: leading to erratic firing. U also seems to depress the
• 1:52:23
  Speaker 5: respiratory center in the medulla part of the brain stem.
• 1:52:27
  Speaker 5: Many poisoning cases note difficulty breathing and eventually respiratory failure.
• 1:52:33
  Speaker 5: The respiratory center is governed by the vagus nerve among others,
• 1:52:36
  Speaker 5: and indeed use effects is to effectively overstimulate and crash
• 1:52:40
  Speaker 5: the vagal system. Initial poisoning can cause nausea and vomiting,
• 1:52:47
  Speaker 5: vegas activated digestive purge, and later a dangerous vagal tone
• 1:52:51
  Speaker 5: drop leading to collapse. Thus, you can at first trigger
• 1:52:56
  Speaker 5: a massive para sympathetic surge hence vomity diarrhea as the
• 1:53:01
  Speaker 5: body tries to expel it and those of vagus mediated reflexes,
• 1:53:06
  Speaker 5: followed by paras sympathetic failure as the heart and brain
• 1:53:09
  Speaker 5: becomes starved of oxygen due to condunction due to conduction block. Neurologically,
• 1:53:15
  Speaker 5: one could say you initially hyper excites certain nerve pathways,
• 1:53:20
  Speaker 5: causing tremors in GI evacuation, then silences them permanently, leading
• 1:53:26
  Speaker 5: to loss of consciousness, cessation of breathing, and death. There's
• 1:53:31
  Speaker 5: also some evidence that used toxins can cross into the
• 1:53:34
  Speaker 5: brain and cause seizure like activity or at least severe confusion.
• 1:53:40
  Speaker 5: On a similar non lethal scale, being around a you
• 1:53:43
  Speaker 5: or handling it has minimal neural effect. The toxins must
• 1:53:47
  Speaker 5: be ingested to cause harm, though there are anecdotes of
• 1:53:51
  Speaker 5: headaches or a heavy feeling when sitting under very old
• 1:53:54
  Speaker 5: u trees, possibly psychological, but some people suggest volatolic compounds
• 1:53:59
  Speaker 5: or even low cyanide content of seeds could cause slight
• 1:54:03
  Speaker 5: that slight issue. Interestingly, in homeopathy, microdoses of you, referred
• 1:54:08
  Speaker 5: to as Taxis pacata, have been used to treat certain
• 1:54:12
  Speaker 5: neurologies and heart palpitations. This is highly spectuolative, but it
• 1:54:17
  Speaker 5: implies that in extremely low doses you might modulate nerve signals,
• 1:54:22
  Speaker 5: perhaps by a mild calcium channel modulation that could calm
• 1:54:25
  Speaker 5: and overactive nerve, akin to how modern calcium channel blockers
• 1:54:29
  Speaker 5: can prevent migraines. Of course, homeopathic dosing is too dilute
• 1:54:35
  Speaker 5: to have direct pharmacological effect, so it's more symbolic. But
• 1:54:40
  Speaker 5: it's a curious point. Use capacity to black nerve conduction
• 1:54:43
  Speaker 5: could in a controlled minuscule form, dampen excessive nerve firing,
• 1:54:48
  Speaker 5: like preventing arrythmia or paint signals. This aligns with used
• 1:54:53
  Speaker 5: magical attribute of binding or stopping harmful forces. Physiologically, it
• 1:54:58
  Speaker 5: literally stops the heart nerves. You might say neurologically you
• 1:55:02
  Speaker 5: as the ultimate inhibitor. It stops life's electrical signals, that
• 1:55:06
  Speaker 5: is the extreme. Symbolically, in magic, that becomes a tool
• 1:55:10
  Speaker 5: to stop negative energy. If we anthrop anthropomorphize use effects
• 1:55:16
  Speaker 5: on our nervous system, it is to bring us to
• 1:55:18
  Speaker 5: the threshold of death, the cessation of neural activity, and
• 1:55:24
  Speaker 5: if harnessed carefully in a small ritual exposure, perhaps it
• 1:55:27
  Speaker 5: could induce a near death transtate or perception beyond is possible. Indeed,
• 1:55:34
  Speaker 5: some have speculated that ancient ancient oracles might have inhaled
• 1:55:38
  Speaker 5: fumes from burning you risky, or brewed super diluted potions
• 1:55:42
  Speaker 5: to enter a trance, essentially flirting with the shuntdown of
• 1:55:46
  Speaker 5: the nervous system to glean visions of the afterlife. Modern
• 1:55:51
  Speaker 5: evidence of anything like that is scant because you is
• 1:55:54
  Speaker 5: so dangerous, but thematically it fits on the seafa side.
• 1:55:57
  Speaker 5: Just being around the venerable you can have psychological effects.
• 1:56:01
  Speaker 5: One might feel a deep, calmer stillness. Some describe a
• 1:56:05
  Speaker 5: pecular quietness in you. Rows This could be purely psychological,
• 1:56:09
  Speaker 5: or or perhaps extremely low exposure to tax scenes from
• 1:56:12
  Speaker 5: crust leaves in the air, causing subtle slowing of the
• 1:56:15
  Speaker 5: body's functions, similar to a very mild sedative effect. Perhaps
• 1:56:20
  Speaker 5: you and the environment could slightly depress heart rate or
• 1:56:22
  Speaker 5: blood pressure, reinforcing that calm feeling. In any case, use
• 1:56:26
  Speaker 5: neurological signature is silence. It silences nerves both peripherally heart
• 1:56:30
  Speaker 5: and gut and centrally breath and consciousness. It is the anist.
• 1:56:35
  Speaker 5: It is the antithesis, anthesis of excitation and magical thinking.
• 1:56:39
  Speaker 5: That's exactly how you holds the dead by keeping the
• 1:56:43
  Speaker 5: living signals at bay. If use magically, a practitioner might
• 1:56:46
  Speaker 5: incorporate that quality. Use you to freeze an enemy's action,
• 1:56:51
  Speaker 5: stop their nervous impetus, or enter a meditative state to
• 1:56:54
  Speaker 5: deep its mimics, or enter a meditative state so deep
• 1:56:58
  Speaker 5: it mimics death, slowing one's heart rate and breath via
• 1:57:02
  Speaker 5: trans aided by used presence. Summarily from a physiological advantage,
• 1:57:09
  Speaker 5: you embodies the concept of death through its nervous systems. Effects,
• 1:57:13
  Speaker 5: it rains away neural fire until nothing remains. This profound
• 1:57:17
  Speaker 5: quieting of the life impulses can be deadly physically, but spiritually.
• 1:57:22
  Speaker 5: Encountering that energy and a controlled ritual can be transformative,
• 1:57:27
  Speaker 5: akin to a symbolic death of the old self leading
• 1:57:31
  Speaker 5: to rebirth. Thus, an extremely cautious skilled magicians skilled magical
• 1:57:37
  Speaker 5: practice one might carefully tune into use neurological resonance to
• 1:57:42
  Speaker 5: achieve a state of deep stillness boundary between life and death,
• 1:57:47
  Speaker 5: essentially stimulating a near death neural pattern which could make
• 1:57:51
  Speaker 5: the veil to the other side perceptible. It's intense and
• 1:57:55
  Speaker 5: not to be toyed with, precisely matching us reputation as
• 1:57:59
  Speaker 5: a powerful solemn tree of the darkest magic and brightest resurrection. Uh,
• 1:58:06
  Speaker 5: that's it all nice.
• 1:58:07
  Speaker 4: So I wonder, considering what you said, could it be
• 1:58:11
  Speaker 4: used in microdoses to treat epilepsy, for instance, because it's
• 1:58:15
  Speaker 4: it's the firing of the brain by reducing it because
• 1:58:19
  Speaker 4: I never heard it.
• 1:58:20
  Speaker 5: Yeah, it's explained for that lower doses of benzodiazepines will
• 1:58:23
  Speaker 5: stop alcoholics some season, And you see what you're saying,
• 1:58:28
  Speaker 5: some something like that.
• 1:58:29
  Speaker 6: That's interesting because I was thinking while you were talking.
• 1:58:32
  Speaker 6: I was like, this kind of sounds like a migraine
• 1:58:34
  Speaker 6: related thing. So, and a lot of seizure medications double
• 1:58:38
  Speaker 6: as a migraine medication if label. So there's that.
• 1:58:44
  Speaker 4: Yeah, but let's avoid using it.
• 1:58:48
  Speaker 5: Okay.
• 1:58:49
  Speaker 6: Oh it does not sound like a good time.
• 1:58:51
  Speaker 4: No, it doesn't. No, And I maybe it was used
• 1:58:57
  Speaker 4: by in the past to simulate someone death, probably others
• 1:59:02
  Speaker 4: to believe that you. Yeah, that's why they say you
• 1:59:07
  Speaker 4: take this and they'll believe your dads, but you might
• 1:59:10
  Speaker 4: actually be dad.
• 1:59:11
  Speaker 2: So I'm familiar with you from the Japanese art of bumsai.
• 1:59:18
  Speaker 2: You know it's popular in that So I guess the
• 1:59:22
  Speaker 2: I was a bit worried a first when you're given
• 1:59:23
  Speaker 2: all the bad traits, but yeah, the meditative qualities and
• 1:59:26
  Speaker 2: all that, that makes sense why it would be an
• 1:59:28
  Speaker 2: excellent tree for a meditative hobby. Listen, I don't know
• 1:59:32
  Speaker 2: if you're done with the herbs, but I had one
• 1:59:34
  Speaker 2: question technical note as I'm looking through my notes here.
• 1:59:38
  Speaker 2: So the common theme I hear are effects on the
• 1:59:40
  Speaker 2: vegas nerve. But you know, I don't have but maybe
• 1:59:44
  Speaker 2: a kindergarten's understanding of even what the vegas nerve does
• 1:59:48
  Speaker 2: for us. So do you can you elaborate on that
• 1:59:51
  Speaker 2: and why it is all of these herbs seem to
• 1:59:53
  Speaker 2: affect that system.
• 1:59:55
  Speaker 5: Well, it goes from like the brain all the way
• 1:59:57
  Speaker 5: down to the gut or I think even lower. It
• 2:00:00
  Speaker 5: was something that I started coming across recently. I mean,
• 2:00:03
  Speaker 5: because I look at magic a little bit differently or
• 2:00:05
  Speaker 5: symbolism a little bit differently than most people. I think
• 2:00:07
  Speaker 5: a lot of it does tie to the body. And
• 2:00:10
  Speaker 5: I started recently just looking at the nervous system as
• 2:00:13
  Speaker 5: possibly angels because they're traveling messages. And I realized that
• 2:00:17
  Speaker 5: that one does go back and forth, you know what
• 2:00:19
  Speaker 5: I'm saying. So I started looking at that one a
• 2:00:21
  Speaker 5: lot because I would be very whole, like, again, you
• 2:00:23
  Speaker 5: have a hermaphrodite that's even symbolized with that that that
• 2:00:26
  Speaker 5: idea both sides me. He's a traveler, you know, goes
• 2:00:29
  Speaker 5: back and forth from hope. They could be Hermes or
• 2:00:32
  Speaker 5: Toth be there. So I I just I wanted to
• 2:00:39
  Speaker 5: look into I had a feeling the vagus nerve just
• 2:00:42
  Speaker 5: for those reasons might come up in occult stuff. And
• 2:00:47
  Speaker 5: then I realized like for some reason, I was just
• 2:00:49
  Speaker 5: thinking like the easy way to start fucking with that
• 2:00:52
  Speaker 5: would be through herbs, and I knew that, you know, again,
• 2:00:55
  Speaker 5: it like if it's going through that whole part of
• 2:00:57
  Speaker 5: the body. That's why, like when I'm mentioning your gut
• 2:01:00
  Speaker 5: and you're breathing, you know, could both be affected. Is
• 2:01:02
  Speaker 5: because it's fucking going all the way from here all
• 2:01:04
  Speaker 5: the way down there. And there's just other things about
• 2:01:08
  Speaker 5: the cranial nerves. In my opinion, certain stuff with the
• 2:01:12
  Speaker 5: UH and initiations that I have been through with the OTO,
• 2:01:17
  Speaker 5: I do think that they're pointing at a part of
• 2:01:20
  Speaker 5: the nerveal, the cranial nerves. So that was another reason
• 2:01:24
  Speaker 5: why I decided he'd even look at this. But I
• 2:01:28
  Speaker 5: mean the vegas nerve again, I was interested in that
• 2:01:30
  Speaker 5: because I do know it also has something to do
• 2:01:32
  Speaker 5: with respiration. When I first started doing this, I actually
• 2:01:36
  Speaker 5: was just going on that angle, and then I had
• 2:01:39
  Speaker 5: started realizing some of them hit like honestly, some of
• 2:01:41
  Speaker 5: the ones I left out there as ones that hit
• 2:01:43
  Speaker 5: like three of them at the same time. I have
• 2:01:44
  Speaker 5: gone over some of them, you know, but I have
• 2:01:46
  Speaker 5: left other ones out that are actually a little bit
• 2:01:47
  Speaker 5: more just as interesting and maybe more to it than
• 2:01:49
  Speaker 5: I've covered. So again, like the vegas nerve, I knew
• 2:01:53
  Speaker 5: because of the respiration, I was kind of interested in
• 2:01:56
  Speaker 5: that because it is again not to reiterate, my opinion
• 2:01:59
  Speaker 5: is you know, again a near death experience or you
• 2:02:01
  Speaker 5: know something to flatliners like that movie. Uh, you know
• 2:02:05
  Speaker 5: that's that's real. And I think that these rbs might
• 2:02:07
  Speaker 5: be used to aid that, right questions. I don't know
• 2:02:18
  Speaker 5: if that helps.
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  Speaker 1: The vegas nerve, Jason. The vegas nerve is probably like
• 2:02:26
  Speaker 1: among the most active nerves cranial nerves. It's the longest nerve,
• 2:02:31
  Speaker 1: like Nick said, it it helps to it's involved in
• 2:02:36
  Speaker 1: everything from like you said, respiration, lung's heart, and certainly
• 2:02:41
  Speaker 1: digestive tract. So because it is so long and it's
• 2:02:48
  Speaker 1: crucial to the autonomic and parasympathetic nervous system, it's it's
• 2:02:55
  Speaker 1: I think you could say, the most active nerve and
• 2:02:58
  Speaker 1: also being the longest means it has the most number
• 2:03:01
  Speaker 1: of branches and all the other cranial nerves kind of
• 2:03:06
  Speaker 1: in some way or another would work in tandem or
• 2:03:10
  Speaker 1: directly with the vagus nerve. For instance, like if you
• 2:03:14
  Speaker 1: can envision inside your inside your head, like it comes,
• 2:03:19
  Speaker 1: it comes up along the side of the face on
• 2:03:21
  Speaker 1: both sides, and runs down into the diet all the
• 2:03:23
  Speaker 1: way down to the digestive track. In comparison the old
• 2:03:27
  Speaker 1: factory nerve, which obviously has to do with your nose
• 2:03:30
  Speaker 1: and smelling, that's the shortest. So it's only like it
• 2:03:34
  Speaker 1: just has such a short path to travel up into
• 2:03:36
  Speaker 1: the into the cranium right from the nose.
• 2:03:40
  Speaker 5: So I think another reason why I'm is interested by
• 2:03:43
  Speaker 5: it too, just to add on to that, is the
• 2:03:46
  Speaker 5: way it follows your body. To me, was like a
• 2:03:48
  Speaker 5: lot like how I forget the name of the fluid,
• 2:03:51
  Speaker 5: but there's a fluid that goes in back here, that's
• 2:03:53
  Speaker 5: in the back of your eye that actually will follow
• 2:03:55
  Speaker 5: a female all the way down to the world, you know,
• 2:03:57
  Speaker 5: or it's even in us. So like to me, I
• 2:04:00
  Speaker 5: was just like, that's just another thing that you know,
• 2:04:02
  Speaker 5: I just found that interesting how they both kind of
• 2:04:04
  Speaker 5: like almost follow each other at all. So, but maybe
• 2:04:07
  Speaker 5: there's something up with that.
• 2:04:09
  Speaker 4: Is this Jacqueline.
• 2:04:11
  Speaker 2: So we hear a lot about the connection between the
• 2:04:14
  Speaker 2: gut and the brain, you know, even now the scientists
• 2:04:16
  Speaker 2: are basically saying it's like the second brain is this
• 2:04:19
  Speaker 2: because of the vegas nerve is that the main communicating
• 2:04:21
  Speaker 2: element between the gut and the brain.
• 2:04:23
  Speaker 1: I guess then it would be like the major pathway
• 2:04:26
  Speaker 1: between the brain and the digestive tract. Right, So it's
• 2:04:29
  Speaker 1: carrying all the signals from the brain to the major
• 2:04:33
  Speaker 1: organs like the heart, lungs, and all the different parts
• 2:04:37
  Speaker 1: of your digestive tract.
• 2:04:40
  Speaker 6: If you ask.
• 2:04:40
  Speaker 1: Anyone who studied physiology extensively, you have a brain and
• 2:04:46
  Speaker 1: that's essential, yes, And we have all these organs which
• 2:04:49
  Speaker 1: help facilitate life. But you are your digestive tract completely.
• 2:04:59
  Speaker 2: Where snakes would.
• 2:05:02
  Speaker 4: Is that why it's said that you are what you eat?
• 2:05:06
  Speaker 5: Ah?
• 2:05:06
  Speaker 1: Yes?
• 2:05:07
  Speaker 5: Right? Also, Uh, the reason why I had even was
• 2:05:13
  Speaker 5: he got interested in the vegas, you know vegas. Ever,
• 2:05:15
  Speaker 5: when I realized, you know, whatever was about more you know,
• 2:05:20
  Speaker 5: from experiences that I have. When I said that, you know,
• 2:05:22
  Speaker 5: it literally feels like you can feel like the energy
• 2:05:24
  Speaker 5: leaving you. I'm seeing how far that nerve goes. I
• 2:05:27
  Speaker 5: was just like, you know, it could it be possible
• 2:05:29
  Speaker 5: that when you are starting to see you come out
• 2:05:32
  Speaker 5: of your skin suit, maybe you will actually feel that?
• 2:05:35
  Speaker 5: And interesting like how she mentioned the gut and the heart.
• 2:05:39
  Speaker 5: In the Gnostic mess and the Oto, when the priest
• 2:05:43
  Speaker 5: comes out at some point he does like slice his
• 2:05:45
  Speaker 5: stomach and slices heart. I think he might do his
• 2:05:49
  Speaker 5: neck eventually. But it's like almost kind of like the
• 2:05:51
  Speaker 5: major areas where the vegas nerve actually affects. So I
• 2:05:57
  Speaker 5: started like thinking, I was like, yoh, am my own
• 2:05:58
  Speaker 5: too something. So that's what, you know, reason why I
• 2:06:00
  Speaker 5: looked into that. And then I was like, well, it
• 2:06:01
  Speaker 5: makes sense to just do all twelve cranial nerves. Why
• 2:06:03
  Speaker 5: am I going to stick with thee?
• 2:06:11
  Speaker 6: I know that the vegas nerve has come up a
• 2:06:13
  Speaker 6: lot on my and I hate to keep bringing up
• 2:06:15
  Speaker 6: my migraine journey, but I feel like that that's interconnected.
• 2:06:19
  Speaker 6: And one of the you know, therapies that I've looked
• 2:06:22
  Speaker 6: into is like the resetting of the vegas nerve, and
• 2:06:26
  Speaker 6: there's actually like exercises movements that you can do that
• 2:06:30
  Speaker 6: reset that. So that's worth looking into if anyone's interested
• 2:06:35
  Speaker 6: in that. It doesn't stop it. It doesn't like fix
• 2:06:40
  Speaker 6: a migraine, but it can stop one from happening if
• 2:06:43
  Speaker 6: one is coming on or like a seizure or any
• 2:06:47
  Speaker 6: type of neurological episode. Resetting your vegus nerve is a
• 2:06:51
  Speaker 6: great thing to try because it costs nothing and you
• 2:06:54
  Speaker 6: can just do it right where you are.
• 2:06:56
  Speaker 2: So so check those out.
• 2:06:58
  Speaker 4: Does that involve we do have towards the wall and
• 2:07:01
  Speaker 4: becoming consciousness?
• 2:07:04
  Speaker 6: No, that comes later. That comes later. That's if the
• 2:07:07
  Speaker 6: restating of the vagus nerve doesn't work, then you run
• 2:07:10
  Speaker 6: into the wall.
• 2:07:15
  Speaker 2: There you made it. Hit him with a flip flop.
• 2:07:17
  Speaker 2: You got any handy over there?
• 2:07:19
  Speaker 6: I got one somewhere around here.
• 2:07:21
  Speaker 2: But we need to we need to get a cannon
• 2:07:25
  Speaker 2: in the merch store. Get a little flip flop cannon.
• 2:07:29
  Speaker 6: I'm gonna just start bringing holy water on here and
• 2:07:31
  Speaker 6: flinging it at him, like.
• 2:07:32
  Speaker 2: Which we learned we can make with roses rose.
• 2:07:36
  Speaker 6: And see there we get learned something new every day.
• 2:07:41
  Speaker 2: I did not know how to make holy water. Yeah,
• 2:07:43
  Speaker 2: I feel thoroughly equipped to go.
• 2:07:44
  Speaker 5: Oh this, actually, like if you were this actual recipe,
• 2:07:47
  Speaker 5: I think like Catholic churches use like I think there's
• 2:07:50
  Speaker 5: like salts of something that I used to Actually, it's
• 2:07:54
  Speaker 5: so funny. I used to. I was a ceremonial magician
• 2:07:56
  Speaker 5: one time. I didn't even realizing, I was like, I
• 2:07:58
  Speaker 5: can't believe I just did this. I noticed as I
• 2:07:59
  Speaker 5: was walking out of the polace. I it must have
• 2:08:01
  Speaker 5: recently been to Salem, so I was wearing like a
• 2:08:03
  Speaker 5: Salem hoodie. And I had a Catholic church a few
• 2:08:06
  Speaker 5: blocks away from me, and I used to go down
• 2:08:08
  Speaker 5: there with like a big bowl and they used to
• 2:08:09
  Speaker 5: have like this.
• 2:08:10
  Speaker 9: It was like looked like one of those big coffee
• 2:08:12
  Speaker 9: makers that had like holy water in it. I'm walking
• 2:08:16
  Speaker 9: in there with like a Salem shirt said with fucking
• 2:08:18
  Speaker 9: pentacle on it, filling up a bottle with fucking holy water.
• 2:08:21
  Speaker 9: Bringing it back to using my witch altar. It was
• 2:08:23
  Speaker 9: just like, yo, what the fuck? Like, what's going on right?
• 2:08:27
  Speaker 5: Because because I knew that they made it specifically, because
• 2:08:29
  Speaker 5: there is it's not just what like certain prayers supposed
• 2:08:32
  Speaker 5: to be said, and sometimes I do you think there's
• 2:08:34
  Speaker 5: something slightly put in there with the water. So that's
• 2:08:37
  Speaker 5: why I was, yeah, you know, I'll get it from
• 2:08:39
  Speaker 5: people who know what the fuck they're doing.
• 2:08:40
  Speaker 2: Hopefully well, in my experience, swamp water works just fine
• 2:08:45
  Speaker 2: and getting rid of demons, so I'm not sure what
• 2:08:47
  Speaker 2: kind of headache they're going to but Yeah, I'm curious.
• 2:08:50
  Speaker 2: I didn't. I'm sure there's a recipe. Yeah, probably not
• 2:08:55
  Speaker 2: to offend any Catholics. There's probably a better word than recipe.
• 2:09:00
  Speaker 4: But I doubt most pre these days prepare the just
• 2:09:05
  Speaker 4: from the tap and they've blasted. Yeah, that's it's totally here's.
• 2:09:09
  Speaker 2: Some mercury and florid wrong live. Just bring me the children,
• 2:09:18
  Speaker 2: No guy, florid eight and my my my third.
• 2:09:21
  Speaker 5: Aye.
• 2:09:21
  Speaker 2: That seems a little satanic there, sir.
• 2:09:24
  Speaker 5: Yeah, they're supposed to be taking.
• 2:09:27
  Speaker 2: Out in the world when you start looking too close
• 2:09:29
  Speaker 2: at it.
• 2:09:29
  Speaker 5: Have you heard that they're supposed to be taking that
• 2:09:31
  Speaker 5: out of the water. I was like, what's the catch
• 2:09:33
  Speaker 5: with that, the fluoride, the florid, Like, if you're going
• 2:09:36
  Speaker 5: to take that out of the water, what's the catch,
• 2:09:37
  Speaker 5: because that's a positive thing. I just don't buy that way.
• 2:09:42
  Speaker 1: That's why that's there's no fluoride in the water here.
• 2:09:46
  Speaker 2: The part of the overreaching campaign of the matrix to
• 2:09:50
  Speaker 2: make us all retarded and unable to properly function and
• 2:09:53
  Speaker 2: see our roles and therefore break out. That's this carefully
• 2:09:56
  Speaker 2: constructed matrix of the reality that is one purpore. The
• 2:10:00
  Speaker 2: purpose of putting fluoride in our water.
• 2:10:02
  Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, that's what I'm saying. So I'm surprisedly going
• 2:10:04
  Speaker 5: to take it out like that just has.
• 2:10:06
  Speaker 4: Well, there is so many stuff in the food today
• 2:10:10
  Speaker 4: that also calcifies the area of your of your serf,
• 2:10:14
  Speaker 4: you sir, die that they don't need it any That's right,
• 2:10:19
  Speaker 4: there's that.
• 2:10:20
  Speaker 5: Yeah, everybody drinking, we're all hooked on something else.
• 2:10:24
  Speaker 2: Yeah, anybody that doesn't believe in miracles, just look at
• 2:10:26
  Speaker 2: America and the fact that we're all still walking around
• 2:10:29
  Speaker 2: funding unable to think when you look at our diets
• 2:10:32
  Speaker 2: that were raised on as there's actually no joke. I mean,
• 2:10:35
  Speaker 2: I'm laughing, but it's quite miraculous when you look at
• 2:10:37
  Speaker 2: what we're putting in our bodies every day.
• 2:10:39
  Speaker 4: Well until until probably twenty ten, I think it shifted
• 2:10:44
  Speaker 4: a little before that. In the arrow Europe, we considered
• 2:10:48
  Speaker 4: America as the as the lab rats of the world,
• 2:10:51
  Speaker 4: because it seems that everybody was being tested there for
• 2:10:53
  Speaker 4: and then spread across the rest of the world. Today
• 2:10:57
  Speaker 4: doesn't seem to be like that so much. There's other
• 2:11:00
  Speaker 4: places that are being tested instead of Americans. There is
• 2:11:04
  Speaker 4: probably there was a raising awareness of what's going on too, So.
• 2:11:09
  Speaker 2: Well, we're all in a lab, you know, we're all
• 2:11:11
  Speaker 2: being tested. It's like I heard somebody say, there was
• 2:11:14
  Speaker 2: a Mandela effects post on X this morning and they
• 2:11:17
  Speaker 2: were talking about the fruit of the loom cornucopia, you know,
• 2:11:20
  Speaker 2: and they're the best explanation I've heard. They said, Man,
• 2:11:22
  Speaker 2: this is just a CIA mind hacked. They want to
• 2:11:24
  Speaker 2: see how far they can get away with it. Can
• 2:11:26
  Speaker 2: they tell us all something we saw never happened and
• 2:11:29
  Speaker 2: have us buy it? And yeah, but who is testing
• 2:11:33
  Speaker 2: the CIA? Well, that's well, nobody, the CIA, masade, I
• 2:11:40
  Speaker 2: mean every intelligence agency around the world, you know five eyes, right,
• 2:11:43
  Speaker 2: that's your deep state, That is the deep state's you know,
• 2:11:46
  Speaker 2: operational arm in the world.
• 2:11:51
  Speaker 4: I tend to believe that there is always another higher
• 2:11:56
  Speaker 4: control in east, every control until you get to the soul.
• 2:12:00
  Speaker 4: And I don't believe that any secret agents is the
• 2:12:03
  Speaker 4: source of that power or autonomous.
• 2:12:06
  Speaker 6: But right, whoever has that power, you've never heard their name.
• 2:12:11
  Speaker 4: Before, never, and you'll never see them. So yeah, that
• 2:12:18
  Speaker 4: that's only for those that can go to my lago
• 2:12:20
  Speaker 4: and all of that kind of stuff. Those are the
• 2:12:22
  Speaker 4: ones that can actually see them.
• 2:12:24
  Speaker 2: There's a jab, look man, I went to see Mike Tyson.
• 2:12:29
  Speaker 2: Damn it. I was hoping I'd get to play Mike
• 2:12:30
  Speaker 2: Tyson's punch out with him, but he was up at
• 2:12:32
  Speaker 2: the front table and I had to sit with his mother.
• 2:12:35
  Speaker 2: I was, well, it's actually his mother in law, but
• 2:12:37
  Speaker 2: he calls her mother. She was probably much better company
• 2:12:41
  Speaker 2: than he was. She was delightful. I did get to
• 2:12:43
  Speaker 2: talk to him about shamanism, though, so you know made
• 2:12:47
  Speaker 2: one night he talked about the power of his mushrooms.
• 2:12:50
  Speaker 2: We're trying to jab met Ricardo. Just because you're so
• 2:12:53
  Speaker 2: handsome and winking at me through the whole podcast doesn't
• 2:12:56
  Speaker 2: mean you can get away with calling me an elite.
• 2:12:59
  Speaker 5: Damn.
• 2:13:00
  Speaker 4: I was trying to do trying to be discreet.
• 2:13:04
  Speaker 2: You cut me outside, Ricardo.
• 2:13:09
  Speaker 6: Listen, I'm almost laying a flip flop here in a minute.
• 2:13:14
  Speaker 1: Well, cousin, Nicholas.
• 2:13:16
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I think yeah, I think it up. I do
• 2:13:19
  Speaker 5: want to say, though, for the people who are listening
• 2:13:21
  Speaker 5: to this, I probably did like a third of them.
• 2:13:24
  Speaker 5: So if you're interested in it, I'll do the whole
• 2:13:27
  Speaker 5: thing on my show eventually, So look for that. Because
• 2:13:29
  Speaker 5: I was believing there was a lot that I did
• 2:13:31
  Speaker 5: not cover.
• 2:13:31
  Speaker 1: I think you should do one more your long form
• 2:13:34
  Speaker 1: ones were you.
• 2:13:35
  Speaker 5: I was probably going to do it in two or
• 2:13:37
  Speaker 5: three parts, because I mean it's I took out two pages.
• 2:13:40
  Speaker 5: It was seventy now it's at sixty eight. But I
• 2:13:42
  Speaker 5: have five more herbs I want to add, and I
• 2:13:44
  Speaker 5: still haven't even covered the ones that are like known
• 2:13:47
  Speaker 5: to like kill you that everybody knows. I didn't even
• 2:13:49
  Speaker 5: put that down it then, yeah, things, but I do
• 2:13:52
  Speaker 5: want to include.
• 2:13:53
  Speaker 1: Those, the hemlocks and the night change.
• 2:13:56
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 2:13:56
  Speaker 5: At first, I was like, I don't want it because,
• 2:13:57
  Speaker 5: like I do eventually plan on I have all so
• 2:14:00
  Speaker 5: the crystals that I'm working on as well.
• 2:14:02
  Speaker 1: I because they all have association with herbs, like her
• 2:14:06
  Speaker 1: as a color and an astrological sign and a crystal,
• 2:14:11
  Speaker 1: Like there's association between everything, right, So.
• 2:14:14
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, once you're doing I do want to
• 2:14:16
  Speaker 5: add to like and part of the reason why I
• 2:14:19
  Speaker 5: did it the way I did it is that from
• 2:14:20
  Speaker 5: my experience from being in the magical so really being
• 2:14:23
  Speaker 5: in an order, at one point, there are people who
• 2:14:27
  Speaker 5: do understand that like these things actually have like medication
• 2:14:31
  Speaker 5: behind a scientific use behind it. But then there is
• 2:14:34
  Speaker 5: a whole bunch of people that actually just think these
• 2:14:37
  Speaker 5: things are like linked, it's like magical effects or represents
• 2:14:40
  Speaker 5: a deity or it, you know. So that's why I
• 2:14:43
  Speaker 5: was kind of going on that angle, because there is
• 2:14:45
  Speaker 5: a lot of practitioners who are not looking at it
• 2:14:50
  Speaker 5: and in that way. So I try to come from
• 2:14:53
  Speaker 5: it this way. But again, there was a you know,
• 2:14:55
  Speaker 5: obviously there are a lot of people that do actually
• 2:14:57
  Speaker 5: understand that if you take this, it helps with that,
• 2:14:59
  Speaker 5: if you take that helps this, you know, And except
• 2:15:02
  Speaker 5: for those people, it's just, you know, there are just
• 2:15:04
  Speaker 5: different ways of looking at magic that I think is
• 2:15:06
  Speaker 5: just kind of dumbing your death.
• 2:15:09
  Speaker 4: And apart from a long term presentation that are great.
• 2:15:13
  Speaker 4: Are you planning to publish the pepper itself?
• 2:15:17
  Speaker 5: Yeah?
• 2:15:18
  Speaker 4: Yeah? And where can people where can people read the
• 2:15:21
  Speaker 4: full document?
• 2:15:23
  Speaker 5: I'm not even sure. I obviously I would put it
• 2:15:25
  Speaker 5: on my website eventually first, but right now, again, like
• 2:15:30
  Speaker 5: I said, I want to even add stuff to it,
• 2:15:32
  Speaker 5: so I wouldn't even I wouldn't even sure. Yeah, my website,
• 2:15:35
  Speaker 5: I don't know. You want to host it, you can
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  Speaker 5: have it too, but you know what I'm saying, Yeah,
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  Speaker 5: I'll probably put it up on the Occult Research Institute.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, that's what I was asking. Yeah, that's what I
• 2:15:45
  Speaker 4: was leading up to.
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  Speaker 5: Man, Thank you appreciate that I forget about that website sometimes.
• 2:15:52
  Speaker 5: Well I have about five people I can add to
• 2:15:54
  Speaker 5: that whole who has been before site a part, and
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  Speaker 5: I've just forgot. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Well, I personally thoroughly enjoyed your presentation, so I really
• 2:16:09
  Speaker 1: appreciate all the time and the effort that I know
• 2:16:11
  Speaker 1: that you put into it and trying to make it
• 2:16:13
  Speaker 1: fit inside our time frames here at youu. So yeah,
• 2:16:19
  Speaker 1: I thank you wholeheartedly for your efforts.
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  Speaker 5: No, thank you. It was fun actually just getting into
• 2:16:23
  Speaker 5: this myself too.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's been a minute since I had an opportunity
• 2:16:27
  Speaker 1: to talk about it, so it was very enjoyable for me.
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  Speaker 5: There you go. Wait next time, I'll do the crystals something.
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  Speaker 2: Please definitely do the crystals.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Thanks Nick, I've got my notes bro for all that
• 2:16:39
  Speaker 2: was very enjoyable and what popped in my mind. Maybe
• 2:16:41
  Speaker 2: I don't know how you do content, but like a
• 2:16:43
  Speaker 2: YouTube short on each of these man.
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  Speaker 5: You know one of them?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, you know what I mean, and just just
• 2:16:49
  Speaker 2: worrow that out.
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  Speaker 5: Sure, that's actually a really good idea.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, but show the image of the plant. Show the
• 2:16:55
  Speaker 4: image of the plant.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah yeah, right, I mean because if I made the
• 2:17:01
  Speaker 5: video episode, I was gonna put the herb up at
• 2:17:03
  Speaker 5: least as I'm talking about it too.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, dude, like each one, because shorts kind of kill
• 2:17:08
  Speaker 2: it from what I've you know, I've been experimenting around,
• 2:17:10
  Speaker 2: and you know, with YouTube shorts you can drive a
• 2:17:13
  Speaker 2: lot of and I don't get and that's great work, man, And.
• 2:17:18
  Speaker 4: Then we know who to blame when people start flooding
• 2:17:21
  Speaker 4: into the hospital.
• 2:17:22
  Speaker 2: So right, man, drake over these.
• 2:17:26
  Speaker 5: Because it's like you'll get some video like, oh, let
• 2:17:28
  Speaker 5: me just test a little bit. I'm getting blamed.
• 2:17:31
  Speaker 2: Well you're I mean, just think about it, man, I mean,
• 2:17:33
  Speaker 2: all your your women at home or not, people at
• 2:17:35
  Speaker 2: home that like to garden, you know. You you open
• 2:17:37
  Speaker 2: up your your market, your interested audience, you know, and
• 2:17:41
  Speaker 2: they didn't know they wanted to know about the cult
• 2:17:43
  Speaker 2: rejects and the boom you've got them, you know.
• 2:17:47
  Speaker 4: So why do you did this? Well, I'll watch it
• 2:17:48
  Speaker 4: in the video from Nick exactly right, honey, what's in
• 2:17:53
  Speaker 4: this tea? Shut up?
• 2:17:55
  Speaker 2: You're not going out with the boys ever again.
• 2:17:59
  Speaker 5: That lemon bomb.
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  Speaker 6: Right, maybe just put a disclaimer on it.
• 2:18:06
  Speaker 5: But thank you though, really good time, and you know,
• 2:18:09
  Speaker 5: it was a great practice run for me doing it
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  Speaker 5: on my own. So nice, Hellia, Hellia.
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  Speaker 6: I feel like I know a lot about herbs, especially
• 2:18:17
  Speaker 6: because I'm a gardener, and I feel like I learned
• 2:18:19
  Speaker 6: so much. I'm like Seaman, I took a bunch of
• 2:18:21
  Speaker 6: notes and stuff, and maybe try some of this stuff,
• 2:18:26
  Speaker 6: not the more dangerous ones. The Podfather might get mad
• 2:18:31
  Speaker 6: at me.
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  Speaker 2: So listen, get some lemon balm or lemon verbena or
• 2:18:36
  Speaker 2: really a lot of this aromatic stuff, and you just
• 2:18:38
  Speaker 2: put it by your front door, you know, and just
• 2:18:40
  Speaker 2: introduce it to your environment and you start noticing, you
• 2:18:43
  Speaker 2: know a lot of these effects through your day.
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  Speaker 5: Great stuff.
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  Speaker 1: Mm hmm. So Sarah and I thank each and every
• 2:18:52
  Speaker 1: one of you for hanging out with us for another
• 2:18:56
  Speaker 1: edition of You You Crew. Thank you Nick for your
• 2:19:02
  Speaker 1: wonderful presentation and for fussing over for the last few days.
• 2:19:09
  Speaker 5: Was about making slides and I was like.
• 2:19:11
  Speaker 1: Yo, man, it's however you want to present it.
• 2:19:15
  Speaker 4: I need it.
• 2:19:16
  Speaker 6: He's like, do I need a slides?
• 2:19:18
  Speaker 5: Just grabbing pictures of these things?
• 2:19:19
  Speaker 1: And yeah, however you want for sure.
• 2:19:24
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so, Sarah, I had your sexy voice and Ricardo's
• 2:19:29
  Speaker 2: handsome face. You know we were just that's enough. We
• 2:19:35
  Speaker 2: mentioned your Ricardo.
• 2:19:36
  Speaker 4: We did more than.
• 2:19:38
  Speaker 1: Enough, Sarah Dolly, Where can the people find you?
• 2:19:43
  Speaker 6: You own YouTube, Spotify, Rumble, spreaker x, Facebook, the whole world,
• 2:19:55
  Speaker 6: just wherever, Instagram.
• 2:19:57
  Speaker 1: You almost have inst just look around people.
• 2:20:00
  Speaker 6: Empathy also be reached through telepathy.
• 2:20:03
  Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly.
• 2:20:05
  Speaker 2: We closed that department after midnight.
• 2:20:07
  Speaker 4: Just say it, guys.
• 2:20:08
  Speaker 1: Min's yeah, all right, everybody, thank you so much for
• 2:20:14
  Speaker 1: hanging out. Really appreciate it. It's another great one, and
• 2:20:19
  Speaker 1: thank you to everyone else for watching. Oh also, if
• 2:20:22
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• 2:20:29
  Speaker 1: check out the Institute for Natural Philosophy website. And that's it.
• 2:20:34
  Speaker 1: I think that's it.
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  Speaker 6: We have news every Sunday and a new episode every
• 2:20:40
  Speaker 6: two weeks, so give me other Wednesday. Let's y'all. That's it.
• 2:20:46
  Speaker 1: Thanks everyone for watching, have a great day. Bye bye