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- 0:00Do I need, what do I need for wiki wise?
- 0:03I don't know because we're not right in the movie.
- 0:07We're just, you know, going over hopes and dreams.
- 0:12All the things we love in. Need and all the things that we
- 0:16hate about it. Things that really stick out
- 0:19after 5 weeks. I only remember brandishing the
- 0:24pistol for jaywalkers. Forcing a woman on a date with
- 0:29you to your stuff by the ocean entirely.
- 0:34Secluded. It's brutal because there are so
- 0:38many great things about this, but the really poorly aged stuff
- 0:45really sticks in you like a splinter.
- 0:48It's just like it's all you think about.
- 0:52Yeah, I was going for worst and best.
- 0:54I think best, like sentimental wise, he finds what's your face,
- 1:03Lorna? Lorna, I think I was going to
- 1:07say Lorna, but I was like, that's like SNL guy.
- 1:12I think that is kind of the core of his, like he finds someone
- 1:19that is interesting and matches him and works.
- 1:23So like the conflict of the last movie, sure it's there, but hey,
- 1:27he's already found somebody. Like she's OK.
- 1:30If they're not getting married for 2026, I'm pretty sure they'd
- 1:33be fine not being married. Wouldn't even come up as a plot
- 1:38point. Hello and welcome to Potato Chip
- 2:00Pictures, the Movie franchise review podcast.
- 2:04And my name is B Sammy Davis. Hello again, I'm Justin.
- 2:10And today, today it is the wrap up of the four movie franchise
- 2:16from 1987 to 1998, Lethal Weapon.
- 2:22I mean, really the only two names that at least on the
- 2:26production side that you can tie to the entire franchise are
- 2:30Richard Donner and Joel Silver. And then of course, you've got
- 2:35the actors who are there from pretty much the beginning.
- 2:39But we do get new ones added to every one of them.
- 2:41But Justin, tell me the totals in terms of budgets and returns?
- 2:48Oh, we'd said that every single episode.
- 2:50Why do our listeners need to remember it?
- 2:53No, I am. Sure they have not been taking
- 2:56notes. They they never take notes.
- 2:59I've been testing them and none of them have taken notes.
- 3:03Over half of the budget of these movies came from the 4th 1 which
- 3:08was only six years after the third one.
- 3:11Like the other ones are close together, but it does feel like
- 3:15AI don't know they spent so much and that one didn't really net
- 3:20him all of it. But overall almost a billion
- 3:27dollars 955,000,000 came back out of 230 million spent.
- 3:33I don't know. We should have.
- 3:35We should compare across all of the series at some point and say
- 3:42this one cost the least and got the most, and that's a
- 3:46capitalism win, I guess. I don't know.
- 3:50That would be a an interesting thing and maybe one day I will
- 3:54put together one more metric to look at that.
- 3:59But I'm going to talk about the tower.
- 4:02That's that's what I call that particular tab.
- 4:04So just to kind of reiterate, Justin's rating for all four
- 4:12movies, this is the average of all of your ratings.
- 4:16It ended up being a 5.75. Mine across all four movies was
- 4:22half a point higher. I was at a 6.25.
- 4:26I was curious, I went through, we go back and forth.
- 4:30There are some that I like more than you there.
- 4:32There are two of them, and I don't remember the exact 2, but
- 4:36oh, I think it was Conan and Austin Powers where we ended
- 4:39with the exact same franchise average.
- 4:45But yeah, then there's some that you like more than me.
- 4:48And so I'm sitting here like, so far there's nothing that we
- 4:51could point to to be like, clearly Sammy is the friendly
- 4:56one to these franchises, or Justin tends to like them more.
- 5:00But in this case, by half a point.
- 5:04I liked it more than you. But because it's only half a
- 5:07point, that put the show average at a six out of 10.
- 5:12And in our tower of franchises, that puts Lethal Weapon in
- 5:18second place right behind. Well, not right behind, but
- 5:22behind A Quiet Place. It's a wild.
- 5:27I feel like it's, you know, smaller sample size with a big
- 5:32heaping of nostalgia. I do think I like these movies
- 5:35more before I modestly critically looked at them.
- 5:42Oh yeah, If we had reviewed these, well, let's be frank, 20
- 5:46years ago, I think Lethal Weapon would be solidly at the top of
- 5:52the tower. It's age.
- 5:54It's age that killed this franchise.
- 6:00Yeah. And then, you know, third place
- 6:01is now Chucky, which is kind of shocking that a, well, I guess a
- 6:07quiet, well, a quiet place is a thriller franchise.
- 6:10It's shocking that a horror franchise is in the top three,
- 6:15you know? I just don't love Austin Powers.
- 6:19Like I feel like there was bits here and there, but man, I think
- 6:24if you live and watch them and had the entire, I don't know,
- 6:29grade level you're in watching it too, I can understand like
- 6:33that's. Yeah, today I still think the
- 6:36second movie is the best in the Austin Powers franchise by a
- 6:41large margin. I think the second movie really
- 6:45is a quality piece of art that holds up at this point, whereas
- 6:51the 1st and the 3rd, I don't like them.
- 6:53I just don't like them anymore. They're just not funny.
- 6:58But those ones are above Conan and Underworld because Conan.
- 7:04I mean, let's be honest, it wasn't that good.
- 7:08Like it. It had moments that were fun,
- 7:12but overall they're not very good movies.
- 7:15And in Underworld, oh man, did Underworld make me angry.
- 7:21I, I, we'll see what sort of lore we come up against in other
- 7:26movies like Toy Story. Like, yeah, I do think in Lethal
- 7:31Weapon, the little details I'm trying to think, oh, like the
- 7:37housing projects at Murtaugh's house always kind of work as a
- 7:44he's got a house and he's got a family and always updating
- 7:50something, I guess. I do like that.
- 7:53I do like that for every single movie except maybe the 4th,
- 7:59there was always a project happening.
- 8:02They were always working on something in the house.
- 8:04Although in the third one, I don't think they actually had a
- 8:07project. I think they were trying to sell
- 8:09it. So the project there was getting
- 8:11rid of the house. You know.
- 8:14But then the 4th 1, it just gets destroyed.
- 8:17This this thing that we've been working on for a whole
- 8:21franchise. From the ground up.
- 8:26Yeah, it's it's a very clever touch.
- 8:28There are such brilliant small pieces in this franchise that
- 8:35really do make the world feel alive and feel like something
- 8:41that you know, that is the real world.
- 8:43I know it's based on LA, but in my head, the way I look at
- 8:47fictional movies is that this is an alternate dimension and we're
- 8:52just stepping into that movie world.
- 8:55This is the first time where I'm going to be like, I don't know,
- 8:57man, Lethal Weapon was our world and it was lived in like our
- 9:02world. Yeah, I think it's the first
- 9:07movie really had nice kind of LA population feel where there's
- 9:14just so many cars and there's stuff happening on the radio
- 9:17that make Riggs and Murtaugh aren't heading to, they're
- 9:20heading to something else. Because I don't know how many
- 9:23million people live there, but there was still plenty back
- 9:27then. Yeah, I just realized there's
- 9:30probably someone out there who's like, how am I supposed to put
- 9:33together this tower when you just, like, throw things out
- 9:36there? And I also never even mentioned
- 9:38Double O 7, the current ranking rankings.
- 9:41And I will probably put this in the show notes, not the notes,
- 9:45but the, the description for the episode right now at #1 It's a
- 9:50Quiet place #2 Lethal weapon #3 Chucky #4IS Double O 7 #5 Austin
- 9:57Powers number six, Conan #7 Underworld.
- 10:02So that that for you who don't doesn't want to read the
- 10:06description, that's where we stand with franchises at this
- 10:11point. So yeah, let's let's get into
- 10:16the nitty gritty of Lethal Weapon.
- 10:19And I've got, I've got to bring it up immediately.
- 10:24The thing that I always remembered over the past 20
- 10:27something years, since the last time I watched it, was that
- 10:30Riggs is crazy. He's really only crazy for one
- 10:35movie. Then he calms down.
- 10:37He finds a family. Yeah, he's totally better after
- 10:41that. And frankly, by the end of the
- 10:43first movie he's like, Nope, was never suicidal anyway.
- 10:49Do you know my secret? I'm always mad.
- 10:52Yeah, oh man, one day, one day we'll have to probably undertake
- 10:58that beast. One year, maybe once a month, we
- 11:03do that. Yeah.
- 11:05I was going to say like I think that one is so massive that we
- 11:09would have to split it up by phases, otherwise we would be
- 11:12doing like 2 years of. That project, yeah, well, where
- 11:21do we start? I feel like we kind of have
- 11:23jumped in to the tower. I don't know if we move on to
- 11:29wrapping up all of this. We gave number.
- 11:33Details with wrapping up all of this.
- 11:36We've done that well, not like the whole episode, but I'm fine
- 11:39with diving into the the nitty gritty, the pattern that I think
- 11:44we fell into what like we weren't as good about talking
- 11:50about this movie or in any of these movies in a linear
- 11:54fashion. We kind of zeroed in on
- 11:58characters and just kind of talked about them and their
- 12:02impact. And I kind of want to do that
- 12:04again for the wrap up. We've briefly talked about Riggs
- 12:09and how not crazy he was. So if there's anything else that
- 12:12stands out to you about Riggs, you mentioned his arc and how it
- 12:17really kind of felt complete to you by the third movie.
- 12:21I I don't think it felt complete until the froggy speech, which
- 12:28still chokes me up. It still gets me, man.
- 12:31Like oh and I'm going to mention it again but to me I feel like
- 12:37his story really does travel and develop all the way to the 4th
- 12:45movie. Like I I feel like I need the
- 12:474th movie to finish Riggs character.
- 12:51I'll say technically you're right, because the second movie
- 12:54kind of shoehorns in, actually, like Spectre.
- 12:59It was me all along. We meant to kill you, but we
- 13:04killed your wife, so that's another reason to hate us.
- 13:07So with the exception of that red herring being like, he
- 13:11already lost his wife, we don't really need to know why she's
- 13:15just dead. But I guess they tried to tie it
- 13:17into him feeling super bad about it.
- 13:21But I, I guess kind of it ties in.
- 13:26But I don't think it needed to be quite so nefarious and
- 13:29directly attached to the second group of people.
- 13:33Yeah, that I think that's one of the weakest parts of that
- 13:39particular movie, which I still liked a lot.
- 13:42That was my second favorite of the four movies.
- 13:47But that, that's the part that kind of sticks out as the big
- 13:51stinker from the movie when they're just like, and this
- 13:56whole time I was joke, Joe, chill.
- 13:59It makes me think of the 1989 Batman where we find out Joker
- 14:03was the one who killed your parents.
- 14:05And yeah. Trailer.
- 14:07I didn't know that. I know, crazy, but it it's one
- 14:12of those things where it just kind of felt like it was a bit
- 14:16unnecessary. We don't.
- 14:19We don't need to have the villains tied together to
- 14:23everything. It could still be something, but
- 14:27yeah, the villains didn't really need that extra step up of
- 14:31evilness. That's really what it was.
- 14:34Was like if if us being Nazis wasn't enough, we also killed
- 14:40your wife. Yep, I can vaguely recall your
- 14:47complaint about the refrigerated woman, but I know that kind of
- 14:52brought down your score. It's part of his arc, so it's
- 14:56kind of like OK. But I think yes, overall, start
- 15:00to finish, he finds someone to love again.
- 15:03And you know what? This series is mostly interested
- 15:08in familial love and making a family.
- 15:13And it's like, OK, you got, you have the entire arc and we get
- 15:19to the end of a comedy and someone gets married.
- 15:24It's a different type of redemption story.
- 15:29A lot of a lot of movies will try to have their redemption
- 15:33arc. I think about, well, Iron Man,
- 15:39that's one of my of all the MCU movies, that's one of my
- 15:43favorite redemption arcs because you've got the party Playboy,
- 15:48Tony Stark. He gets a taste of reality and
- 15:52he has to spend the rest of the movie essentially making amends
- 15:55with a lot of action and a lot of cool stuff.
- 15:58But he doesn't want to be an arms dealer anymore.
- 16:02He wants to be someone who stops all wars.
- 16:05And in this one it's a different type of redemption because
- 16:10Riggs. He's barely responsible for his
- 16:14wife being killed. Like the fact that he's a cop is
- 16:18the reason she got murdered, but he's a good guy.
- 16:23He's not doing evil things until the 3rd movie when he's
- 16:26threatening to kill a jaywalker. Yeah.
- 16:31But you know, his redemption arc doesn't necessarily mean that he
- 16:35did something wrong. It's more that he can't get over
- 16:40his wife being dead. So that whole family that, that
- 16:44discovery that you can move on. It's a different type of
- 16:48redemption, but it's so satisfying to me.
- 16:51But yeah, sorry, I I, I brought up the waving of the gun and
- 16:55that was. Yeah, it's it.
- 17:02I think the basic excuse is that if we try to portray humans in a
- 17:09film, you're going to end up with humans that are racist at
- 17:15times and and otherwise. So it feels like overall, yes,
- 17:24we get a a movie of someone that can change from threatening
- 17:30jaywalkers to keeping mum about immigrants that have been sold
- 17:37into slavery hanging out at the guy's house.
- 17:40I'm grateful at the end of the movie that the chief was like,
- 17:43here, let me wrap it up with the bow.
- 17:46INS decided to give him asylum. And it's like, oh, how gracious
- 17:50of INS we don't. Really need it, But at the same
- 17:52time, here's your happy ending. You're like, yeah.
- 17:56So there's there's just so much that is not great in several
- 18:04places, but yes. That's part of the charm is that
- 18:09he's he is human. You mentioned it and I agree
- 18:11with it. He's unlike so many of our other
- 18:15characters who attempt to be human in these franchises.
- 18:20A lot of them fall on their face.
- 18:21I think about our number one franchise, A Quiet Place and
- 18:26that first movie where the dad, I just can't get over the fact
- 18:31that he is all about traditional gender roles and his more than
- 18:35capable daughter cannot go with him.
- 18:38Like it's got to be the boy who wants to stay at home.
- 18:44Not allowed. Yeah, like that's one of his
- 18:47human failings. But I it didn't vibe with me,
- 18:51whereas this one, it, it really did impact me to the detriment
- 18:56of the score. But at the same time, it's
- 19:00partially realistic. I can't imagine a cop just
- 19:05waving his gun around. It fits 1985 to 1995 that is.
- 19:11Boy, that doesn't. I feel like it was committed to
- 19:15film because it was just easy enough to say, yeah, that's
- 19:19we're going to make this show. And when cops do this to
- 19:23jaywalkers, it's funny, haha. If if a cop went rogue, he would
- 19:30still have the law on his side. It's like I feel like no.
- 19:35Not anymore. It's like, I'd appreciate not to
- 19:39have the law back up vigilantism.
- 19:44Like I thought we were on the same side about Batman.
- 19:46Like, you know? Yeah, yeah, for real.
- 19:51But and then one last. This isn't really about Riggs.
- 19:55This is more about Mel Gibson because you know, I was talking
- 19:59to a Co worker about this franchise and he was like,
- 20:03that's that's the one with Mel Gibson, right?
- 20:05Like that guy went crazy. And I realize I don't like I
- 20:10remember when he had his fall from grace.
- 20:14There's a reason why we don't see a lot of Mel Gibson anymore,
- 20:17not just because he's older, but he had a pretty public falling
- 20:23out. I think.
- 20:25I think he had some pretty big racism.
- 20:28But if I. Recall vaguely, yeah, I think
- 20:31something like that. Yeah, 'cause it was Hasselhoff
- 20:34who who got drunk and ate the hamburger off the ground, but it
- 20:38was around the same time that Gibson also got drunk and
- 20:42started throwing out a bunch of slurs.
- 20:47But regardless, at the time he was a perfect casting.
- 20:54And today, I mean, there's I just don't care about celebrity
- 21:00culture enough for it to really taint my view.
- 21:06I there are this is going to sound terrible.
- 21:10I don't remember the guy's name, but he lost his job as the
- 21:16president in some Netflix show because of rape allegations.
- 21:23I can't remember that. Idea.
- 21:26There's there's someone who's screaming into their their
- 21:30headphones like it was this guy. I can still like, I don't want
- 21:35to support the guy. I don't want to say he's a good
- 21:39actor, But at the same time, I still like usual suspects.
- 21:43I still like 7 like those are still good movies.
- 21:47And I don't want to punish everybody else who worked on it
- 21:51because 1 actor was horrible. Yeah, and I mean, that's kind
- 21:56of, I think I used to watch Maverick with Mel Gibson in it.
- 22:01Oh, like at some point in my life, because it's kind of chill
- 22:08and kind of fun and it's it's a comedy because I feel like he
- 22:12does that vague kind of humorous.
- 22:20Mm hmm. Character he.
- 22:23Is good at comedy despite everything.
- 22:28Yeah. And I, one of my favorite movies
- 22:32of all time. I have not repurchased it
- 22:35because every time I buy it, I find someone who has not watched
- 22:38it and I give them my copy. But Braveheart, that's one of
- 22:43those movies where I've purchased it five times in my
- 22:47life because I, I genuinely love that movie.
- 22:51And when someone's like, oh, I've never seen Braveheart, I'm
- 22:54like, well, have my copy, I'll just go buy another I.
- 22:58Think I've watched parts of it. I don't think I've sat through
- 23:00the entire thing. Oh man, he made me cry in that
- 23:04one. I I cry a lot in movies.
- 23:06This this shouldn't come as a surprise to you, but to our
- 23:11audience, maybe it will. But yeah, Mel Gibson made me cry
- 23:15in Braveheart. Before we get to the other
- 23:21person who made me cry, let's shift gears and talk about our
- 23:24other lead. Let's talk about Murtagh the the
- 23:29old man. I do think we spent 3 movies
- 23:33with Riggs kind of getting the most attention for his arc.
- 23:36And so Murtagh, he kind of just like his family, his daughter's
- 23:43doing commercials. He gets made fun of that work.
- 23:46He gets assigned to the partner that's loose cannon.
- 23:53He I feel like the 4th movie gives him secrets and it gives
- 24:00him, oh, what was my other thought.
- 24:04He does get to think about retiring in the third one, but
- 24:06that was kind of our least favorite.
- 24:08Third one, to its credit, is the one where he has to come to
- 24:12terms with killing a kid. So we get to see Murtagh at his
- 24:17lowest point in the third movie. Right, the 4th movie he he saves
- 24:24the people in the boat, sends to his house and it's totally
- 24:28illegal and it's like, what a win.
- 24:30I I like this guy. He's he sees something happening
- 24:35and in spite of upholding the law as a cop, he brings them
- 24:41home and it's like, ah, OK, he's got to win.
- 24:45This is Murtaugh at his high point, I think.
- 24:49Oh yeah, I got to be honest, the older I get, the more relatable
- 24:54I find Murtaugh in the fact that I see him as this immensely
- 25:00interesting character who is humble in the way that he lets
- 25:05other people shine around him. Like he lets his kids shine, he
- 25:10lets rigs shine, he lets even butters by the 4th movie have
- 25:16his moment in the sun. Like he doesn't try to get the
- 25:21spotlight because he doesn't need it anymore.
- 25:24And I imagine if we were to see a young man, Murtaugh, he would
- 25:29probably be the athletic and the Super, the Superman who's going
- 25:35to be an awesome cop at all times.
- 25:37But at this stage in his life, he's a father, he's a career
- 25:42cop, he's a detective. He's he's really just kind of
- 25:45there doing his thing and doing it well.
- 25:49And he doesn't need attention for it.
- 25:52And yet I still find him so fascinating and so interesting.
- 25:57I mentioned it. I think in the last movie, he
- 25:59just rolls with the punches. If something happens, he's like,
- 26:03all right, this is the new reality, let's come to terms
- 26:07with it. And I love that about him.
- 26:11Yeah, I can see that. I think he my favorite moment
- 26:16would probably be the the protective father behaviour once
- 26:22he finds out that, oh, his daughter's actually married to
- 26:24this guy. Like, OK, we'll go take care of
- 26:27him, make sure he's alive after really not wanting anything to
- 26:32do with him for the whole movie. There's pitfalls to that whole
- 26:36arc, but I think the the family means a lot to Murtaugh.
- 26:43And I think once he decides that, yeah, family is what you
- 26:47are, then like it's all inclusive.
- 26:51You you get to come to dinner, you get to get involved in the
- 26:54police detective work. His version of family is like a
- 27:00bear hug. Like even if you don't want to
- 27:02be in the family, once he has decided you're in the family,
- 27:07that's it for you. You're now in the family.
- 27:11Feel like the end of the first movie.
- 27:14I I'd be interested to know how close they were to saying we're
- 27:18going to have a second one because it it felt like a good
- 27:24interaction, like the whole was he or was he not actually?
- 27:31Or was that the end of the first one that he's rigs is like
- 27:34actually, I wasn't crazy or. Yeah, that's the first one.
- 27:38Aside from that, come in and have dinner.
- 27:41It's like, yeah, like it's a family moment and all of the
- 27:51macho actions are just a a cover for actually caring about the
- 27:57people that are in your family, which kind of is, I would say
- 28:04kind of that's a justification in the 80s, nineties for
- 28:08treating Leo as you treat him like, yes, people are family.
- 28:13Yes, that's abuse. 90s. Yeah, I can see that existing in
- 28:18lots of places. We don't love the abuse anymore,
- 28:21but just treat people nicely. That would be great.
- 28:26I got to agree with you, but I've it's it's so wild because
- 28:30at the same time, I still feel the love like maybe except for
- 28:34Leo, he might, they might cross a line with Leo.
- 28:38But otherwise I think Murtagh genuinely cares about people.
- 28:42And then the last thing that just popped into my head is how
- 28:46good humored he is. Like they're pranking Murtaugh
- 28:50all the time. Like at least in the 3rd and 4th
- 28:53movie. But yeah also the second movie.
- 28:56He keeps getting pranked and made the butt of jokes
- 29:00throughout the franchise and it would be easy for him to be
- 29:04bitter and upset about it. But after he's done yelling at
- 29:08everyone, he usually looks at the prank and laughs too because
- 29:12he's like OK that was actually pretty good and I love how good
- 29:16humored he is. Yeah, it's, he seems like a good
- 29:21guy, and I think he got saddled with a partner that sure needed
- 29:28him. I don't love that, you know,
- 29:31making the the star student have to work with the kid that needs
- 29:37to get their homework done can work, but man, is it like, oh,
- 29:43what did I I didn't sign up for this.
- 29:44Exactly what he says, basically. So really like my if there's a
- 29:50complaint to be made, it would be that there's not a whole lot
- 29:54of Arc to describe Murtagh like he is the wizened.
- 30:01Even older. Yeah, he just gets older, that's
- 30:04it. But otherwise he's still the the
- 30:07great person from start to finish.
- 30:10And his lowest point is when he kills a kid and he's still, it's
- 30:15his lowest point because he feels guilt about like I, I
- 30:20just, I love him as a character. And I don't even want to say
- 30:24it's a complaint that he doesn't really have any growth or change
- 30:27because he's like a perfect character.
- 30:29He's so great. Gets to exist and he's OK with
- 30:35that? Yeah, I like him.
- 30:39I don't think there's anything problematic that I can recall
- 30:44with him. I do.
- 30:46I'm sure that he at point, at some points says says stuff that
- 30:50I would cringe. Yeah, he, he, he, he has some of
- 30:54the racism in there. He's he's not immune to it, but
- 30:58he also has so many great lines. Like, it's hard to point to a
- 31:04lot of moments where I'm like, Murtagh, why'd you do that?
- 31:07Because he really is kind of the rock of this whole franchise
- 31:12where he just not the actor, the rock, but he's the metaphorical
- 31:17solid and sturdy character that you can rely on.
- 31:21I'd be interested but to. Root you.
- 31:23He thinks of the franchise currently.
- 31:27Yeah, I have not looked up any of them.
- 31:31And then just because they're a minor character, but they are
- 31:34tied to them. Shout out to the fact that it
- 31:37was the same actors who played Murtaz's family for this whole
- 31:41thing. When you told me that I love
- 31:42seeing. Those kids grow up nice.
- 31:45That is pretty cool, yeah. Like that I think makes it feel
- 31:48complete, like it's a universe. And I don't think the younger
- 31:53kids, I don't think they did a lot of acting.
- 31:55I think the youngest daughter, I think like Lethal Weapon was
- 32:00pretty much it for her. I don't know if she's got a lot
- 32:03of other stuff I don't. I couldn't even find her picture
- 32:06when I was Googling. Maybe the other kids have some
- 32:11other roles, but good on them for pulling a Harry Potter and
- 32:16committing to coming back every single time.
- 32:20Like I hope they OK spoilers for the end of the episode.
- 32:25There have been talks about a Lethal Weapon 5 and I hope that
- 32:30those kids come back again. They're, you know, older than
- 32:33me, but I still want them like. I think it would be we, I mean,
- 32:38we haven't finished with the characters, but talking about
- 32:41the what if we continued it thing that we kind of do in wrap
- 32:46UPS. If there's a 5, I don't know
- 32:50that you keep them running into action, but I don't know what
- 32:56you do with them otherwise. I mean a cameo would be
- 33:01sufficient. Like I'd be fine with them being
- 33:04around a dinner table. Would Briggs make it to Chief?
- 33:09Like, could he be the chief? Kind of.
- 33:12That's an interesting one. Well, let's put a pin in it.
- 33:15I don't. I don't want to get into that
- 33:17because I want to talk about the third member of the family,
- 33:20Lauren, which of course was Leo. Leo, you skipped the whole guy.
- 33:26I knew it. Was everybody skips Leo then he
- 33:30gets no respect around. Here, no friends.
- 33:34He has one friend. He has no friends again.
- 33:38Oh, poor Leo. I I loved him in two and I loved
- 33:44him in four. The third one, he gets the
- 33:46shaft. He's barely in it like, but Joe
- 33:51Pesci, yes, I think knocked it out of the park.
- 33:54I think this is one of his most iconic characters.
- 33:57It's a shame that he was kind of, I'm like, why we're why were
- 34:02we nominating him for this? Like between.
- 34:06The Razzies, you mean? Yeah, like why, why did we
- 34:10target this character when he did a good job at at the bit
- 34:18that he was needed in? I don't know.
- 34:22Because the Razzies like you stopped paying attention at the
- 34:26cemetery and didn't. Didn't wash that by.
- 34:29Didn't get, didn't get that froggy speech.
- 34:33The froggy speech is good. I think it was.
- 34:38It was nice to let Leo in on the strong men being vulnerable that
- 34:45Riggs Murtaugh kind of got to do at places.
- 34:49And so it's still like, that was kind of one of my complaints,
- 34:55the fact that it's still portraying men as you absolutely
- 35:00have all the feelings. You are not allowed to to exist
- 35:06with them. So if you're going to talk, talk
- 35:10by yourselves. If you're going to cry, do it
- 35:13somewhere else. And so I'm glad that we see them
- 35:17having the man. Is it still all caged up in the
- 35:2090s man? Oh, yeah.
- 35:22And you know, I'm going to, I'm going to make the argument that
- 35:26back then, this is probably one of the most progressive views of
- 35:30a man coming to terms with his emotions because all of these
- 35:34movies are willing to show it, even if they're still like,
- 35:38better cage it up, better bottle it all in.
- 35:42But obviously time has progressed and I'm going to
- 35:46point to the MCU where we've got big muscly men and they are
- 35:51willing to cry. And that's something that we
- 35:54would not get from the 90s. So obviously time has made us a
- 36:02little bit wiser, a little bit better as a society.
- 36:06But I, you know, we got to give this franchise the credit where
- 36:09it's due. At that time, men were not
- 36:13allowed to talk about emotions, period.
- 36:16They weren't allowed to cry. Like I was a kid in the 90s, if
- 36:19I started crying, everybody would say, oh, be a man.
- 36:22Like that was just the toxic, normalized thing that we did the
- 36:27children back then. So having a franchise where even
- 36:33if they can't say it, the fact that they're, you know, sitting
- 36:37on a toilet getting ready to try to escape a bomb, but they're
- 36:42able to look. Yeah.
- 36:43Like. But they do have that moment
- 36:45where we as the audience, we know what they're saying.
- 36:47And it is a touching moment. And.
- 36:51And then, yeah, Leo made me cry. So like, he got me.
- 36:56Leo says I love you the same way.
- 36:58He didn't even say. I don't know if he says it or
- 37:00not. Yeah, I, I think he says it by
- 37:04the end, but I don't remember if he ever fully says like, beyond
- 37:09like, ah, I love you guys. Like it might be a flippant
- 37:12thing that he says. I don't know if he really says
- 37:14it with his full chest. OK, I've got to ask you.
- 37:20In fact, let me do it in the Leo voice.
- 37:21OK, OK, OK. Did you rewatch the cemetery?
- 37:27Did you rewatch the Froggy? Speech I did and I couldn't get
- 37:32out of bed for days. I just it was so impactful.
- 37:37It was better you are so it was better.
- 37:40It was better watching it attentively and I think, I mean
- 37:47that's what I was trying to communicate saying that he he
- 37:53gets to be vulnerable and it's just super sad back story that
- 37:59kind of explains. So pathetic.
- 38:02Why he hangs on so hard to these guys that don't treat him well.
- 38:07And I I do think he's introduced this like, you know, an
- 38:11informant and he's done criminal activities, but we got to keep
- 38:17him alive and out of danger. So I don't know if they see him
- 38:20as less than in that in that regard when they first meet him.
- 38:24But the 4th movie sharing that. And I think Riggs even says I
- 38:30didn't know or something like that, something.
- 38:33He says something like, oh, we treat you like crap.
- 38:37Like he, he feels guilt. Yeah.
- 38:39For the way they've been treating him and Leo's like, ah,
- 38:42it's OK, you guys just rag me and I'm, I'm like, no, like they
- 38:46are mean. So Riggs comes to terms with it
- 38:51and he's like, I was a jerk. You know, he gets to be
- 38:54vulnerable and it is when Riggs Murtaugh kind of breakdown on
- 38:59the boat and drunk and cry and every all that stuff.
- 39:02Like, it feels similar and it feels, what's the word, like
- 39:11charitable of Leo to being like, hey, Leo already understands
- 39:18pain and loneliness and like, grief.
- 39:24And so he gets to share that with Riggs.
- 39:26And I think it's a interesting bond, but it is a bond.
- 39:34Yeah, kind of reminds me of when Riggs is talking about his dead
- 39:39wife and then Murtagh just comes in and like.
- 39:43Oh yeah. Just craps on the whole moment
- 39:45unintentionally. Like Murtagh wasn't around for
- 39:49the froggy speech. So like, he still doesn't know
- 39:52that we're being nice to Leo now.
- 39:55Well, Leo says we're family, so I mean, maybe he'll treat him
- 39:58nice because of that. Happy endings all around.
- 40:02It is. It's going to be good from here
- 40:04on out. All right, well, we're on the
- 40:08last two family members. Lorna, tell me what you think
- 40:12about our unwed pregnant woman. I it's definitely an era type
- 40:19thing that made it a conflict. You got to marry your man
- 40:24because you're expecting. It's like well that makes sense
- 40:27in the time period. I can completely under agree and
- 40:31understand that. I think she also is committed
- 40:38enough from what she says that she's OK either way.
- 40:44They've done up his trailer on the beach.
- 40:47Like honestly it looks like a nice place to live on the beach.
- 40:53In the previous movies it's kind of was just a trailer on the
- 40:55beach. It's become more with the
- 40:59addition of a partner. So if that part made me love the
- 41:064th movie because they just talk and it's banter between
- 41:13committed partners that they still have inner worlds that
- 41:19aren't shared because kind of I think they make her seem like
- 41:23she would love to get married but she kind of just doesn't.
- 41:28It's like that inner. She's happy to have what she's
- 41:31got. But it just is.
- 41:33So it feels like a a snippet of the universe that we get to see
- 41:42that's not guns and punches and fighting and it's sweet.
- 41:48It it just makes it, yeah, feel like, of course she would be
- 41:52chill with Riggs because he's chill with her.
- 41:55And it's it's a life. So I really, of all the scenes
- 42:02in all of the movies, I think I love that part the most.
- 42:05I also think she was a wonderful addition to the family.
- 42:10We only got her for two movies and we barely got her in the 4th
- 42:13movie. But unlike Leo in his second
- 42:16movie, she still made a pretty big impact in her less than
- 42:22featured movie. Like she was still important to
- 42:25the story, still had important scenes.
- 42:29So yeah, double thumbs up to Lorna.
- 42:31I agree she she's a really good addition to the family.
- 42:38I don't know if I'd say the same about our 4th and final addition
- 42:42to the family. If we don't want to jump too far
- 42:46away from Lorna, she kind of is already who she is in the third
- 42:52one. That's.
- 42:54True, she is a developed. She has a good character.
- 42:57Yeah, it's like she doesn't get too much more that isn't tied to
- 43:02her partnership with Riggs and being pregnant.
- 43:06So it is still a little, what do you call it, dependent on on
- 43:14Riggs's arc and not quite. Is she still in Internal
- 43:20Affairs? I feel like she's out of it.
- 43:22Because they never mentioned. Yeah, so that's where I'm like,
- 43:25there is a downside. We love her, but she does kind
- 43:29of just come. We never talked about this, and
- 43:36I feel a little guilty about it. She is in eternal internal
- 43:39affairs. Eternal.
- 43:41She's in internal affairs because she's the one who
- 43:45mentions that Murtaugh is being investigated in the 4th movie
- 43:49because he's got new suits. He's throwing all this money
- 43:52around. And so she's the one who's like,
- 43:57he might be on the take. He might be a crooked cop, but
- 44:01it's barely talked about until the end of the movie.
- 44:04Yeah. So for as much as I love that
- 44:06she's there, I don't want to miss miss the opportunity to
- 44:12call out the 90s movies where women don't have much to do
- 44:16other than get married and be pregnant and it's like.
- 44:19Yeah. In the third one she was awesome
- 44:23and separate and herself chicken butt.
- 44:27Yeah yeah. So I do think there is a step
- 44:29backwards of like but I in the universe.
- 44:34I will say that she she wants that like and that's great that
- 44:42she wants to be with Riggs and they're pregnant and expecting.
- 44:46It's like I'm just happy to kick.
- 44:48Butt yeah, even pregnant. So good on her.
- 44:54So. And then final family member is
- 44:59Butters. Detective Butters shows up for
- 45:01the 4th movie played by Chris Rock.
- 45:04He is secretly married to Rayna. They are pregnant with their
- 45:11first child. He's my thumbs down and it's
- 45:15probably because we didn't get enough time with him to really
- 45:19develop. He only has like 1 great scene
- 45:22and that's with Leo. Otherwise I'm just like Nah.
- 45:27I think the character will be played five different ways by 5
- 45:31different comedians. Mm hmm.
- 45:34And then I kind of wouldn't mind a different one taking a stab at
- 45:39it and maybe different lines because it just felt like
- 45:44dropping in whoever was funny in the 90s.
- 45:50Who was who was hot at the time in 1998?
- 45:54'Cause it's all right. His stuff isn't bad, but it
- 45:59isn't. It doesn't.
- 46:01It's not distinguished. It doesn't feel like he's the
- 46:04only person who could do it. Whereas Leo and Lorna, no one
- 46:10else could be those characters. Their actors are perfect,
- 46:13perfect for those characters. Whereas Butters, I think you're
- 46:17absolutely right. We could put any comedian from
- 46:20the late 90s, they would deliver the lines differently and I
- 46:24still wouldn't care. Like, yeah.
- 46:26I just. He's he's the least of our
- 46:30family like, and you know, it's not that Chris Rock did a bad
- 46:35job, is it Chris Rock? Like am I getting him confused?
- 46:38Pretty sure that's his name. Yes, it is Chris Rock.
- 46:41I had to look at the movie behind me to make sure he's he's
- 46:48fine. And as an actor, I enjoy him as
- 46:52a stand up comedian, I enjoy him as Detective Butters.
- 46:56I don't need them. I just.
- 46:59Yeah. He just doesn't work.
- 47:01Glad that Murtagh can bring him in like family, but yeah, it's
- 47:05not fun. I think Butters is a liability.
- 47:12You know, he just, I don't know that he has bad intentions or,
- 47:17you know, bad motivations, but he just doesn't exist as as very
- 47:23much like and he's supposed to be rather important.
- 47:31That's probably what makes it hurt the most, is like every
- 47:36movie, we've had a new member of the family and they mattered to
- 47:41the movie, and then Butters shows up and he doesn't matter
- 47:46to the movie, he matters to the movie.
- 47:49He's just barely in it. He's supposed to be extremely
- 47:53important, but who cares? Yeah, yeah, kind of.
- 48:00Your son-in-law secretly, but we're going to make jokes about
- 48:06how much he actually wants to get to know you, his motivations
- 48:10for why he likes you. Don't love it?
- 48:14Oh, so 90s, so 90s. Well, we've talked about the
- 48:19whole family. So rather than going bit by bit,
- 48:24I would like to know, do you have a favorite villain from
- 48:28this franchise? 1st 10 is the general.
- 48:35Man this feels like ages ago that I watched that one.
- 48:41That's like an it was, it was like a month ago.
- 48:43It was like. An entire like the 80s plot,
- 48:47like General and his Samuel guy. I think it was Samuel, right?
- 48:56I don't even remember his name and he was the final villain,
- 48:59Mr. Mr. Something Mr. Samuel. I don't even remember the
- 49:03actor's name, and I like the actor 'cause he's so good at
- 49:06being crazy. Yeah, I've forgotten his name
- 49:10too for how much he's shown in it.
- 49:15I do think the final bad guy in the first movie, yeah, the
- 49:21general is blah. He gets blown up, yeah, but.
- 49:24But the henchman ends up being pretty memorable.
- 49:27Man, I want to say it's Mr. Samuel, but I don't want to be
- 49:31wrong. I just don't know.
- 49:32If that sounds right, I'm just sitting here like Mr. Samuel.
- 49:37It's something Joshua. Mr. Joshua, you?
- 49:43There we go. And go find it.
- 49:46Name is not memorable. Gary Busey is.
- 49:50But and 3rd 1 is who's the bad guy?
- 49:56And the third one, oh the construction dude, I've got a
- 50:01construction company. What the heck is this guy?
- 50:06I don't know your motivation. It seems dumb.
- 50:11The 4th 1 is Jet Li. It's a it's pretty close tie for
- 50:14Jet Li and and Joshua because. Joshua, that's quite
- 50:18interesting. And you didn't even mention the
- 50:20Nazis. Yeah.
- 50:23From the second one. I mean, it might be because
- 50:27there's the opposite end of the spectrum from Mighty Ducks for
- 50:30that guy because like, he's the good guy in that and he's the
- 50:36Nazi in this one. So yeah, Joshua gently, I think
- 50:45probably Joshua as villain of villains in the franchise.
- 50:50OK, see, and I was going to say my 1:00 and 2:00, the ones that
- 50:55I'm arguing with myself over are the Nazi and Jetly, and my
- 51:01number one is Jetly. And it's all because of right
- 51:06before that final fight. He's got the angry powers.
- 51:09You know, Riggs is like, how did he pull that gun apart in one
- 51:13move? Like, let's go ask him.
- 51:15I that sticks with me. I love it.
- 51:17It's such a good intro to a fight.
- 51:20And then, you know, he's Jet Li. He gets to kick butt.
- 51:23He gets to be interesting and fun.
- 51:26And I like him for the whole movie.
- 51:29So he's my number one. I'm going to put him at top spot
- 51:32for the villain got. You well that's all fair, I
- 51:36think, because except for the construction guy, they all kind
- 51:41of were unique and had things about them.
- 51:45Construction guy, ex cop. I'm like, you just didn't make I
- 51:52feel like since the plot itself was kind of a little bit lesser
- 51:58than, the villain should have stood out more as being
- 52:01interesting and he didn't so. Yeah, he definitely didn't add
- 52:05to the movie. The best thing about the third
- 52:08movie is Lorna. Otherwise, really, the movie is
- 52:12not that good. Lorna stands out.
- 52:16She's awesome. The rest of the movie doesn't
- 52:19really come together as well as it probably did back in the 80s.
- 52:23But all right, well, OK, future. There has been rumor, there has
- 52:31been discussion. Specifically, as late as 2024,
- 52:38Mel Gibson went to the Salt Lake City Fan X comic convention
- 52:44where he said that not only would he like to come back in
- 52:49Lethal Weapon 5, but he wants to direct it like he wants to, to
- 52:54lead this thing. There are people who are still
- 52:58doing it, but no one's given him approval.
- 53:01He said that it's written, it's interesting, and then it's been
- 53:05held up for one reason or another.
- 53:09And this, this could just be him hyping up his own work, but
- 53:13According to him, it's the best one of the whole series if we
- 53:17ever get to see Lethal Weapon 5. So let's just imagine we get the
- 53:23whole family to come back. What would you want from a
- 53:27Lethal Weapon 5? I mean, you would probably enjoy
- 53:32it because apparently he directed Braveheart.
- 53:36I didn't know that. Yeah, and he did one hell of a
- 53:39job with it. What would I want for each of
- 53:44them? I think I the continuity of the
- 53:50entire family I think would need to be a piece because, yeah, if
- 53:55we're doing cops, they need to be younger.
- 53:59I I assume. I'm trying to think of what
- 54:01would be an interesting screenplay for how old is he
- 54:08now? Like older than the cop his
- 54:11chief was when he was in the first movie.
- 54:14So I think he could be in it. I don't think it would work in
- 54:21like that. Whatever that new Maverick movie
- 54:23is in terms of Tom Cruise is still there as a pilot.
- 54:27Like, well, I don't know that I'd see Mel Gibson as chief of
- 54:32police, but I could see him doing detective work in a
- 54:40wizened old type of way. Murtaugh family and honestly if
- 54:48his wife's book stuff is doing so well.
- 54:51Retired finally and. Like, he's 79 years old now.
- 54:57He's got to be retired. And then Riggs is 70.
- 55:01So retired may be a safe house because all of his kids are
- 55:08living nearby like that sort of feel.
- 55:13And then Riggs would have a kid that I don't know.
- 55:17What would you want that kid to do?
- 55:20I think you could still have a detective story because I think
- 55:23those are fun movie plots. Something that's happened,
- 55:27someone needs to figure it out. We we can know the villain
- 55:30before they do and paths collide.
- 55:34So it's like that's still a good setup.
- 55:39I don't know that it has to be directly on the police force,
- 55:43but it could exist in a universe where they've moved out of LA.
- 55:50It wouldn't quite go the way of like Hot Fuzz, where this tiny
- 55:54town is actually full of crime, but it could be something maybe
- 56:02with a couple pieces of action, but mostly still family, family
- 56:10stuff being important. So maybe they're they're also
- 56:14saving immigrants like Murtaugh was.
- 56:19Maybe there's something better for Lethal Weapon to to shine as
- 56:24a. Identity crisis.
- 56:26Identity theft. We need modern movies.
- 56:29Need modern crimes? Maybe I.
- 56:34Yeah, it was just me being silly.
- 56:36I got to be honest with you, what they would do is they would
- 56:41put Riggs and Murtagh back in the starring roles and those two
- 56:46as old men would solve the crime and save the day, just like,
- 56:53just like they did in the 90s. But that's not the movie I want.
- 56:58I want their children taking over.
- 57:02I want it to be a movie about Riggs and Murtagh's sons and
- 57:11there is a huge age gap between them, but I want them to be
- 57:14detectives, you know? So like I can't remember what
- 57:19babies they have at the end of the fourth is 0.
- 57:23Yeah, it would be a grandchild for Murtagh, but, you know, his
- 57:27son is admittedly, like, 20 years older than Rig's son, But,
- 57:34you know, that would still be acceptable for, like, a wizened
- 57:40detective and then a newcomer, especially if they're people who
- 57:45have known each other pretty much all of their lives.
- 57:51And so I would rather Mel Gibson and Danny Glover just be cameos.
- 57:56Like, I don't want them to be the stars of Lethal Weapon Five.
- 58:00I want to pass the torch. I feel like having the kids do
- 58:04it though just leans toward that naked Gun reboot and I never.
- 58:11Watched him, I never saw it. I never saw it.
- 58:13He's. Like all of the police force is,
- 58:18if I remember the like clips or trailers, all of the current
- 58:24police forces, like children of the previous police force.
- 58:30OK, so I I essentially am going to turn Lethal Weapon 5 into a
- 58:35parody of itself. It could work but I I just
- 58:39checked it because I I think that's what happened for I
- 58:44should watch that series. I mean, we could put that on the
- 58:48list, maybe even this year and see if we can get to it.
- 58:52But yeah, I, I don't know what else I would want from it.
- 58:56I'm, I'll be honest, I this is one of those situations where I
- 59:01kind of think the franchise should stay in the past.
- 59:04Yeah, that would probably be fine.
- 59:07Yeah, like this. This might be one that I am fine
- 59:10putting to bed and saying we don't need to return to it, but
- 59:16the franchise itself did return to it back in, let's see, 2016
- 59:24and running through 2019 for three seasons.
- 59:29There was a Lethal Weapon TV series that I have never
- 59:32watched. I wonder if it's streaming
- 59:37anywhere. It was made by Fox and so in my
- 59:39head it should be on on either Disney or Hulu but I've never
- 59:44seen it. And I don't know if I mentioned
- 59:46this with Chucky, but a movie transitioning to TV is not
- 59:53always a bad thing. Because my evidence would be 12
- 59:57Monkeys. I like that movie.
- 1:00:00It's a really artsy, kind of hard to follow time travel
- 1:00:05movie. But the 12 Monkeys TV series is
- 1:00:12incredible. It is so much better than the
- 1:00:16movie that is it is inspired by. And so I do wonder.
- 1:00:22For three seasons, was Lethal Weapon the TV series as good or
- 1:00:29better than the movies? It got three seasons.
- 1:00:34Like maybe it was good. Possibly could be something I
- 1:00:40hadn't ever heard good or negative from it really.
- 1:00:44Yeah, I'm trying to see. I mean, it looks like it got a
- 1:00:48lot of middling reviews from critics.
- 1:00:51The second and third seasons got higher review scores, whereas
- 1:00:56the first season was kind of dead in the middle, 5 out of 10
- 1:01:00for most people. But then second and third season
- 1:01:03got sevens and eights. So maybe it's one of those
- 1:01:07things where it grows on you. It might be worth watching if I
- 1:01:12have it on a streaming service that I have available to me.
- 1:01:17But in terms of this, this particular franchise, I had not
- 1:01:20watched it. I knew it existed.
- 1:01:23I just completely ignored it and let it happen because I, I'm not
- 1:01:28a big Damon Wayans fan. I like when I saw him as one of
- 1:01:35the leads, I was like, now, now I don't want to watch that.
- 1:01:40But that's being unfair to him. Like he is a solid actor, you
- 1:01:44know, maybe. But yeah, maybe I'll watch it.
- 1:01:54I, I think you're right with your, it doesn't need to come
- 1:02:00back. Yes, there was a continuation
- 1:02:03and maybe that convinced them, you know, maybe we should do #5
- 1:02:06it's like, well, it ended happy. I think it ended nicely.
- 1:02:12I don't bring him back to suffer.
- 1:02:15Yeah. Did you ever see major pain?
- 1:02:21Yes. OK, that's Damon Wayans.
- 1:02:24Like that's, that's my top of the mountain for Damon Wayans.
- 1:02:30Oh, I love that movie. I it's a dumb movie.
- 1:02:33It didn't age that well but I I still like it.
- 1:02:40Yeah, yeah, I vaguely remember pieces of it, but I can
- 1:02:47understand that turning you off of anything else that he does.
- 1:02:52Yeah, so maybe apparently it's available on Amazon Prime.
- 1:02:56So maybe I'll I'll give Lethal Weapon a shot one of these days
- 1:03:00because again, 12 Monkeys was far superior as ATV show as
- 1:03:06opposed to it's already really good movie.
- 1:03:10So I got to give Lethal Weapon and Chucky a shot.
- 1:03:15Speaking of Chucky, there's going to be a new Chucky movie.
- 1:03:18We're going to be pulled back in probably faster than 007 pulls
- 1:03:24us back in. We're going to have to watch a
- 1:03:27Chucky movie. All right, I don't know we would
- 1:03:31do a wrap up. No, we would.
- 1:03:33We would just probably discuss how it affected the tower, but I
- 1:03:38don't think we would do a full wrap up just because of one
- 1:03:41movie. Check through all these things
- 1:03:45again. What was our favorite villain?
- 1:03:46Yeah, well, sometimes I have stuff playing in my head, like
- 1:03:55what about this? But after saying it should be
- 1:03:59put to bed and should be done, and saying that you know, I
- 1:04:05enjoyed the family feel and did not enjoy the remnants of the
- 1:04:1290s, I don't have much else to say.
- 1:04:17I'm with you. I kind of feel like this is,
- 1:04:21yeah, so many of the other ones, I'm always like, man, what could
- 1:04:25we do? What stories could be told in
- 1:04:28this universe? I don't really feel that way
- 1:04:31with Lethal Weapon. I feel like it, it came, it did
- 1:04:34what it did, it had an impact. I don't need any more, you know.
- 1:04:40James Bond got married and nothing happened at the end.
- 1:04:43It's all good. She's alive.
- 1:04:45She's a snapping. That's where it ended.
- 1:04:48And his marriage. All right, well, I guess I will
- 1:04:55reveal what our next franchise is so that if you, dear
- 1:05:00listener, want to join us next week for the first movie in it
- 1:05:05we are doing 2014's The Lego Movie.
- 1:05:11Something fun. Exactly.
- 1:05:13We're going to full comedy. We're not going to an action
- 1:05:18comedy franchise that starts with a suicide tale.
- 1:05:22Yeah. I'm excited for this one.
- 1:05:26This is also going to stretch the limits of what we define as
- 1:05:30a franchise, specifically because of the Lego Ninjago
- 1:05:35movie. We're counting it.
- 1:05:38It is part of the franchise, but it's technically a spinoff
- 1:05:44because I don't know if any of the characters are connected to
- 1:05:48either The Lego Movie or The Lego Batman Movie.
- 1:05:52Like The Lego Batman Movie has the same Batman from The Lego
- 1:05:55Movie. Lego Ninjago Movie is kind of
- 1:05:58its own thing, but it's still the same production company.
- 1:06:05It's still The Lego Ninjago Movie.
- 1:06:08That is the title of it. All of these movies that put
- 1:06:11them in the franchise have the words The Lego and Movie in them
- 1:06:17somewhere. I think that's a fairway to
- 1:06:21collect a franchise. Like if they made the Lego Harry
- 1:06:27Potter movie, it would be a Lego franchise.
- 1:06:30Exactly, you would throw it in the same thing.
- 1:06:33Where is that Pharrell mock? Not even mockumentary the
- 1:06:38Pharrell movie where it's his life story but done with.
- 1:06:41I want to see it. I do too.
- 1:06:43It looks interesting, but it's just not part of the franchise,
- 1:06:47so we're not including that. We have to draw a line
- 1:06:49somewhere, so next week join us for The Lego Movie.
- 1:06:57Go ahead and take us out of here for the last time with Lethal
- 1:07:02Weapon. Dear Justin.
- 1:07:04Last time I just don't have a good handle still on saying
- 1:07:10thank you for listening because it's people like you that listen
- 1:07:15to our show. It's it's a humble show.
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- 1:07:32that like to listen to a rather diverse set of movies without,
- 1:07:40you know, without hesitation. Generally when we're selecting
- 1:07:44we're like, that sounds like a good one.
- 1:07:46It's. Just got to be a franchise.
- 1:07:48That's the only rule. If there's any really big thing
- 1:07:52that's problematic with it then short maybe we'll remember that
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- 1:08:06Our Gmail account is potato chip pictures pod@gmail.com.
- 1:08:11Nailed it. I can't find my actual scripts
- 1:08:16on. I mean, you've hit every
- 1:08:18important point the the social media exists.
- 1:08:22I just don't, you know, post anything.
- 1:08:27Share spread the word generally agreeable in our our takes, I
- 1:08:34think. And if we're wrong, we'd love to
- 1:08:37hear it because that's more more people interacting.
- 1:08:43But thank you. And I think we we should do the
- 1:08:45final wrap up together. So.
- 1:08:47OK, well, yeah, I'm good with it. 2.
- 1:08:53Are we doing it? Are we doing it on three or are
- 1:08:55we doing after? I'm the older one, I'm always
- 1:09:00going to do it after. Are we doing it on three or
- 1:09:02after? We always go on three. 12.
- 1:09:10I'm too old for this shit. Goodbye.