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Cat's Out of the Bag · The Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous Podcast

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  Speaker 1: This is the Benn and Ashley I almost famous podcast
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  Speaker 1: with our radio. Well, actually, I promise you a very
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  Speaker 1: special mini episode with a guest that could carry a
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  Speaker 1: mini episode. And here she is. Hey, Ashley, how you doing?
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  Speaker 1: Are you being silly? Hello? Are our special guest is
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  Speaker 1: right here in the room listening to you be silly?
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  Speaker 1: It is Connor, Connor Brennan. He's on the line and
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  Speaker 1: he's here to chat with us. Uh. This man has
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  Speaker 1: been a prominent figure in Bachelor Nation for the past
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  Speaker 1: two to three months. Connor, how are you doing? I'm great.
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  Speaker 1: It's pretty crazy to be called prominent by by Ashley.
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  Speaker 1: I wow. Does that mean that you've been a fan
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  Speaker 1: of the show for a while. Yes, I know who
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  Speaker 1: you are. So hi you guys. I'm seeking out a
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  Speaker 1: little bit. It's great to meet you that. Okay, that's
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  Speaker 1: so sweet. So okay, you're one of the people that
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  Speaker 1: are fans going into it, so that's always fun. Did
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  Speaker 1: you end up yourself or did somebody sign you up? No?
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  Speaker 1: I had a friend to nominate me last summer, not
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  Speaker 1: like as a joke, but I always I was like,
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  Speaker 1: there's no way I'm gonna get on the show, Like
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  Speaker 1: blah blah blah uh and then it ended up happening
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  Speaker 1: and then pretty crazy, you're also I believe you're Carly
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  Speaker 1: wood els Um route her nanny's roomate. Is that right?
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  Speaker 1: That's right, And that is completely unrelated how that happened.
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  Speaker 1: And it was right around the same time that I
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  Speaker 1: was interviewing to be on Bachelorette, my roommate was interviewing
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  Speaker 1: to be Carly wood els nanny and so like right
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  Speaker 1: around when I left for bachelorat that's when that happened.
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  Speaker 1: Have you ever met her any advice? Yeah, she gave
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  Speaker 1: me a little bit advice about paradise, which was cool.
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  Speaker 1: Basically just that it's good to be on the beach
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  Speaker 1: the first day, not like coming late, which I think
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  Speaker 1: it was pretty good advice. It's it's interesting connor Um.
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  Speaker 1: You know, in today's world a Bachelor like back in
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  Speaker 1: the day, like cast members came off and had like
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  Speaker 1: careers based on the show and nowadays you don't see
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  Speaker 1: it as much. But you've really stood out, like you've
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  Speaker 1: you've became a character that people recognized, they know and
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  Speaker 1: and really from the get co of your time on
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  Speaker 1: the Bachtlarette, like you made a name for yourself and
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  Speaker 1: H the confidence was something that was always appealing or
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  Speaker 1: not even appealing. I guess it was just like something
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  Speaker 1: made you stand out. We're gonna get into that because
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  Speaker 1: I said on episode UH that we came out with
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  Speaker 1: this UH to break down Paradise. Your confidence seems to
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  Speaker 1: be waning during Paradise less than on the bat and
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  Speaker 1: I want to know why. But let's start the beginning
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  Speaker 1: for you. We love to talk to like where did
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  Speaker 1: you grow up? Um? What was your childhood? Like, let's
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  Speaker 1: let's get into it. I was hoping you to ask
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  Speaker 1: how my childhood. Uh. So I grew up in Columbia, Illinois,
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  Speaker 1: right near St. Louis. UM had my family is incredible,
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  Speaker 1: So I had a pretty amazing childhood, very music based.
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  Speaker 1: You know. I've started playing piano when I was six
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  Speaker 1: years old. My dad's a violinist as well, so I
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  Speaker 1: have a tattoo of a violin here for him. And
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  Speaker 1: he always wanted to take piano lessons when he was
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  Speaker 1: a kid, but he had nine brothers and sisters so
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  Speaker 1: his family couldn't afford it, so he had me take
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  Speaker 1: panel lessons instead. Um. I worked out pretty well. So
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  Speaker 1: just a musical family, always playing songs, always singing. Uh,
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  Speaker 1: and yeah, really really great childhood. You seem like really
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  Speaker 1: a left brainer between music and then you have a
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  Speaker 1: master's degree in medical physics, and then your resume includes
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  Speaker 1: nuclear engineer at some point. Yeah. So I was a
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  Speaker 1: radioactive materials inspector for the state of Wisconsin, which was
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  Speaker 1: pretty wild. And then you transitioned to to eighth grade
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  Speaker 1: math teacher. Yeah, I just kind of stumbled into that.
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  Speaker 1: I've been a math tutor my whole life because I
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  Speaker 1: love math, and I love kids, and I love teaching math. Um.
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  Speaker 1: And so I was working for a tutoring company here
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  Speaker 1: in Nashville and then just found out that, uh, kind
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  Speaker 1: of a friend of theirs needed a full time math teacher.
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  Speaker 1: And I was like, let's go to try Why not?
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  Speaker 1: What what high school are you teaching that? Or middle school?
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  Speaker 1: It was Templeton Academy in Nashville, so like a small
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  Speaker 1: private middle school in high school downtown. I spent a
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  Speaker 1: lot of time in Nashville. My fiance's from Franklin. So um.
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  Speaker 1: But you know, you seem like like kind of a
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  Speaker 1: renaissance man, like you're up to a lot. Like I
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  Speaker 1: feel like the more like you're one of those dudes
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  Speaker 1: that we go and grab a beer and I just
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  Speaker 1: want to sit there for two hours and here about
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  Speaker 1: all the things you've done with your life. Um, what
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  Speaker 1: do you at this point? Now? What do you feel
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  Speaker 1: like your path is? Like? Where do you like really
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  Speaker 1: investing into That's a great question. Uh yeah, I don't know,
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  Speaker 1: because there's there's so many different things I have interested in.
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  Speaker 1: Like I obviously love music and I'm passionate about it,
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  Speaker 1: but I'm also passionate about math and physics and nucle engineering.
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  Speaker 1: So right now I'm probably I don't think I'm gonna
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  Speaker 1: go back into teaching. I did it for a year
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  Speaker 1: and it was It's a hard job, especially in the pandemic.
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  Speaker 1: Was a really tough job. Uh um. And so I
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  Speaker 1: think I might try to get back into nuclear engineering
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  Speaker 1: or look into like some medical sales type thing where
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  Speaker 1: I can use like my medical physics degree. But then always, always,
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  Speaker 1: music will be a part of my life obviously in
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  Speaker 1: one form or another. I feel like you could really
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  Speaker 1: woo the ladies saying that you're into nuclear engineering. I'm
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  Speaker 1: not even I'm not being sarcastic, like, yeah, that sounds
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  Speaker 1: so smart. That's like a real fancy job. Okay, all right,
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  Speaker 1: keep that I would I wouldn't throw that out there
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  Speaker 1: more often. All right, maybe I should be leading with
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  Speaker 1: that I was a nuclear engineer. Sure. Okay. So you
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  Speaker 1: get signed up to be on the Bachelor by a
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  Speaker 1: friend of the bachelorette and then you show up in
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  Speaker 1: a cat costume. And we've been saying multiple times in
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  Speaker 1: this podcast that you had your finest moment in the
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  Speaker 1: cat costume and I feel like the strongest chemistry you
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  Speaker 1: ever had with Katie in it. What did it have
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  Speaker 1: magical powers? Did you feel like you had like a
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  Speaker 1: like a song on on it was? You know, maybe
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  Speaker 1: it was the fact that I, uh yeah, it had
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  Speaker 1: magical powers and I got to kind of hide a
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  Speaker 1: little bit in the cat suit. It just, uh I
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  Speaker 1: came out guns blazing, and when you're in a cat suit,
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  Speaker 1: you can either you know, be full confidence and go
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  Speaker 1: for it or you know, kind of hide. And I
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  Speaker 1: went full confidence with it. Uh yeah. But I think
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  Speaker 1: that that probably was one of our best nights, was
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  Speaker 1: was me and the cats. It was just it was
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  Speaker 1: a lot of fun. We were both cracking up um
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  Speaker 1: and it was just funny and that that was the
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  Speaker 1: goal of it. It wasn't It wasn't supposed to be like, hey,
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  Speaker 1: look at me, I'm in a cat suit. It was
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  Speaker 1: just I hope Katie laughs. I just wanted to make
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  Speaker 1: her laugh. Basically, you, if you were to describe yourself,
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  Speaker 1: You're you're hard dude to figure out. I'll be honest,
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  Speaker 1: We're gonna get that in a bit. And I think
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  Speaker 1: it's like a compliment, like I would take it and
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  Speaker 1: I say that with like, um, you're you're obviously very intelligent,
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  Speaker 1: you're good looking, you're musically talented. Um, you show up
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  Speaker 1: in a have to which I could say all those things,
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  Speaker 1: it also could say the opposite of all those things,
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  Speaker 1: you never know. Um, how do you describe yourself? Wow,
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  Speaker 1: that's a great question. I so if I had to
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  Speaker 1: describe myself, I would say that I one thing I
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  Speaker 1: pride myself on, especially on this show, was being very genuine. Um.
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  Speaker 1: And you you you know, you hear people saying like, Oh,
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  Speaker 1: this person so and so is here for the wrong reasons,
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  Speaker 1: blah blah blah. I came on in my goal. I
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  Speaker 1: wanted to fall in love. That's why I went on
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  Speaker 1: the show. That's why I want on both shows, and
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  Speaker 1: I wanted to be the fullest version of myself and
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  Speaker 1: I did that. I showed up. I brought my whole self,
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  Speaker 1: my goofy, music, fun, loving whatever self. Um So, I
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  Speaker 1: think I would like to say them genuine is one
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  Speaker 1: thing you can say about me. Uh yeah, you got
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  Speaker 1: a little annoyed this week or so we here in
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  Speaker 1: our hot topics when Lance Bass said on Nick Nick's
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  Speaker 1: podcast that you perhaps were there for a music career. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: come on, Lance Bass. Um So, I was annoyed with
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  Speaker 1: Lance Bass for saying that because I love Lance Bass
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  Speaker 1: and I was so excited to meet him, and we
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  Speaker 1: had like some really good conversation and we were really friendly.
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  Speaker 1: Um and I was just like kind of in all
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  Speaker 1: of him obviously. And then as I remember it, all
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  Speaker 1: the guys were kind of standing there from Katie season
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  Speaker 1: because none of us had seen any of the episodes,
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  Speaker 1: and of course we're like, what happened? Like, we showed up,
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  Speaker 1: We lived this crazy experience, you know, we had all
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  Speaker 1: these emotions, and now we want to know what are
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  Speaker 1: they showing? Like what do we look like on TV?
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  Speaker 1: So I think all of us were kind of asking
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  Speaker 1: questions about the show, and then I was like, oh,
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  Speaker 1: did my song make it? Because I wanted to know
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  Speaker 1: if I was on the show at all. I didn't
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  Speaker 1: even know if I was going to show up on
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  Speaker 1: TV at all um, And so it wasn't like, hey,
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  Speaker 1: I want to start a music career. It was just
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  Speaker 1: I was genuinely interested if they showed my song or not. Um.
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  Speaker 1: And so it was, Yeah, I was really worried going
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  Speaker 1: onto both shows. We'll really just bachelor atte that people
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  Speaker 1: are gonna say, oh, he's here for their own reasons,
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  Speaker 1: he's here for a music career, blah blah blah. Because
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  Speaker 1: you've just seen that so many times that people say that,
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  Speaker 1: and so I am sensitive about that. And that's why
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  Speaker 1: having one of your heroes say it, it's just like
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  Speaker 1: it's a bummer. You know. It definitely stung coming from him.
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  Speaker 1: But the cool thing is all the people coming out
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  Speaker 1: of the woodworks to defend me and being like Connor
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  Speaker 1: is one of the most genuine people I've ever met.
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  Speaker 1: Like his music was great. It wasn't just me walking
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  Speaker 1: around being the annoying asshole with an instrument. It was
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  Speaker 1: you know, I want people to sing along. I want
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  Speaker 1: people to have fun. That's why I play music to
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  Speaker 1: bring people together, not to show off and be like, hey,
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  Speaker 1: look at me, I'm a musician. It's to make people
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  Speaker 1: laugh and that's why I play music. Um. And so
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  Speaker 1: it was cool to see a lot of people from
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  Speaker 1: my season, a lot of people from Bachelor in Paradise
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  Speaker 1: and a lot of strangers just come out and say, um, yeah, no,
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  Speaker 1: he wasn't there for that reason. He was there too,
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  Speaker 1: you know, fall in love and if he played songs,
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  Speaker 1: that's just part of who he is. Yeah, it's Uh.
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  Speaker 1: I want to talk to you about some of them
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  Speaker 1: for a second, because I lee Thomas's storyline is one
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  Speaker 1: that's being highlighted. And um, it feels very quick these days,
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  Speaker 1: how a narrative can get created, you know. So we've
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  Speaker 1: watched this as fans and seen uh and I want
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  Speaker 1: your inside. I thought you'd be a guy that talks
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  Speaker 1: about it. Where like Thomas shows up the bach thread
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  Speaker 1: and we're like, hey, he wants to be the Bachelor, Like, well,
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  Speaker 1: who doesn't, um, And it seems like everybody at least
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  Speaker 1: knows that's in the back of their head. And he
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  Speaker 1: goes on Paradise, he walks down the beach and like
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  Speaker 1: right away, you know, the sharks attack and he's you know,
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  Speaker 1: pushed aside and uh and kind of defined by the
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  Speaker 1: narrative that he had from the show. And you've now
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  Speaker 1: experienced how quickly this narrative we created, Like you see
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  Speaker 1: how dangerous that can be for for Thomas. Even this
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  Speaker 1: week you said something like, Hey, I don't trust anything
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  Speaker 1: comes out that guy's mouth. What is it that we
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  Speaker 1: aren't seeing? Because if it's just that he wants to
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  Speaker 1: be the Bachelor that's the biggest issue people have with him,
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  Speaker 1: then like I say, yeah, I knew thirty guys like that, Um,
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  Speaker 1: so what is it that we're not them that that
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  Speaker 1: the bachelor thing was never the biggest issue, Like that
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  Speaker 1: was just kind of a small part of it. So
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  Speaker 1: what else say is that I pride myself on being
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  Speaker 1: a very genuine person, and what I get from Thomas,
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  Speaker 1: at least on the show was that I couldn't figure
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  Speaker 1: out who he genuinely was a lot of times it
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  Speaker 1: felt like he was saying what people wanted to hear,
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  Speaker 1: and a lot of times we he would just lie,
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  Speaker 1: like we called him in some direct lies. And so
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  Speaker 1: that's where it really graded on me, because the one
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  Speaker 1: thing I ask from people is just like, be yourself.
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  Speaker 1: Be genuine. If you're an asshole, be that. Don't hide anything,
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  Speaker 1: you know, just show up as yourself. I could never
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  Speaker 1: figure out who Thomas actually was, and so I was
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  Speaker 1: going to try to give him another chance on Bachelor
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  Speaker 1: in Paradise, but he kind of just showed up and
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  Speaker 1: did the same sort of thing, right. I just did
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  Speaker 1: not feel any genuine nous from him. So I definitely
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  Speaker 1: interested in giving him another chance of meeting him in
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  Speaker 1: real life and talking to him. But yeah, yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I guess lives are hard to like show, right, It's
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  Speaker 1: hard to trace back on tell them and you show like,
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  Speaker 1: oh you told me this since secret or you told
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  Speaker 1: me this on the side. Now I'm you did that
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  Speaker 1: enough and enough in me that makes more sense. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: But like Ashy and I are watching this and we're
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  Speaker 1: like we don't know what to get, like what's wrong?
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  Speaker 1: Like why people much? Yeah? He just changes his story
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  Speaker 1: a lot based on who he's with and who he's
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  Speaker 1: talking to. Interesting. Is there anybody else in the Paradise
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  Speaker 1: cast that you feel like is it represented to their
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  Speaker 1: utmost on the show? Um or a storyline that you
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  Speaker 1: feel like a lot of content is missing. Yeah, well,
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  Speaker 1: there's so much that happened and we only get to
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  Speaker 1: see such small parts of it. Especially on Bachelor Paradise.
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  Speaker 1: There's just so much happening every single day. It's crazy
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  Speaker 1: to see what doesn't make it in Weirdly, Um, Carl
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  Speaker 1: for me got a redemption in Bachelor in Paradise because
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  Speaker 1: I came in that a little bit on TV. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I came in ready to be mad at Carl still
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  Speaker 1: because we left and you know, when he left, I
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  Speaker 1: was all piste off at him. And then we kind
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  Speaker 1: of just sat around and talked with him, and he
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  Speaker 1: became one of the guys with Katie's guys, Like, we
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  Speaker 1: all had some good discussion with him, talked things out.
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  Speaker 1: He was really genuine and honest with us, and I
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  Speaker 1: really started to like the guy a lot. And there
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  Speaker 1: was a moment when I was really sad and I
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  Speaker 1: was just kind of sitting by myself being sad boy
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  Speaker 1: on the beach, playing my guitar song um, and he
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  Speaker 1: came up and sat next to me. You know, there
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  Speaker 1: weren't cameras or anything, was just an off screen moment.
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  Speaker 1: He came up and sat next to me, and it
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  Speaker 1: was just like, hey, play me a song, like I'd
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  Speaker 1: love to hear any song he wrote or something like that.
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  Speaker 1: And we just had this cool little moment where he
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  Speaker 1: wanted to hear a song. We sat and talked and
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  Speaker 1: it was nice. So yeah, sweet, we don't get to
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  Speaker 1: see enough of that. He still comes off to me
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  Speaker 1: as the guy that was on the Bachelor, Like I
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  Speaker 1: like him more, but he's still like m He's definitely
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  Speaker 1: a good fault. So it's good to know, you know
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  Speaker 1: that he had that moment. Now we're gonna get into
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  Speaker 1: your whole story line of Paradise, and before we do
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  Speaker 1: want to ask you you know, you've obviously had a
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  Speaker 1: very accomplished career. Um, you probably don't have a hard
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  Speaker 1: time dating. You've got thrown into this world now and
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  Speaker 1: you're talking to us, you're talking to Nick or I
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  Speaker 1: don't even know if you're talking. You're just talking to people, um,
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  Speaker 1: all the time now about this show and now you've
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  Speaker 1: experienced Paradise. What do you make of it all? Like,
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  Speaker 1: I mean, it's it's gotta be a it's yeah, in
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  Speaker 1: a word, it's pretty surreal, definitely, especially since it all
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  Speaker 1: happened so fast as in you know, Bachelorrette was only
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  Speaker 1: a few months ago, and before I even saw the
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  Speaker 1: outcome of that, I was already on Bachelor Paradise meeting
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  Speaker 1: a bunch of Bachelor people who had seen on TV.
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  Speaker 1: So I was star struck. When I showed up. I
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  Speaker 1: was just like, oh my god, Like, I get to
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  Speaker 1: meet you and you this is so cool. Um, it's
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  Speaker 1: it's crazy, and and a couple of things that I
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  Speaker 1: take away from it, or that every person I met, Uh,
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  Speaker 1: they were so much cooler in real life than on TV. Really,
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  Speaker 1: like everyone's more attractive and cooler in real life. Something
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  Speaker 1: you guys, you guys. The coolest it really is you
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  Speaker 1: meet me in person and you just get a fully
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  Speaker 1: fleshed out version of them rather than just a small,
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  Speaker 1: tiny moment on television. So that's one of my biggest
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  Speaker 1: takeaways is just like it's it's it's very curated what
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  Speaker 1: you see and it's really cool to meet these people
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  Speaker 1: in real life and realize that, oh they're awesome people,
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  Speaker 1: even more awesome than I would have thought. Now we
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  Speaker 1: see you having a thing with Marissa early on. Was
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  Speaker 1: there anybody else that you were kind of talking to
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  Speaker 1: or we're interested in that. We didn't get to see
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  Speaker 1: you talk with Uh. Yeah. So I went in really
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  Speaker 1: really excited to meet just sen Um. I was, Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: it talked about her a lot in my interviews and
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  Speaker 1: if you saw my Little Paradise song, I had her
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  Speaker 1: name in the Paradise song um, and so I was
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  Speaker 1: really excited to meet her. And we had a conversation
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  Speaker 1: the first day that was really good. And then she
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  Speaker 1: and I both kind of coupled up pretty quickly, right
• 16:12
  Speaker 1: like she had Ivan and I had Marissa. I don't
• 16:15
  Speaker 1: know if they're going to show this or not, but
• 16:17
  Speaker 1: I actually did end up writing a song for just
• 16:20
  Speaker 1: Senda because I was really crushing on her, and then
• 16:25
  Speaker 1: you know, hit it off with Marissa and just sending
• 16:27
  Speaker 1: hit it off with Ivan. But when things kind of
• 16:31
  Speaker 1: switched up with Marissa, I still found that I had
• 16:34
  Speaker 1: some pretty strong feelings for Jasna, and so I wrote
• 16:38
  Speaker 1: a song and shot my shot in a pretty big way.
• 16:40
  Speaker 1: And that, you know, there's so many things happened that
• 16:43
  Speaker 1: that's that doesn't I don't think it makes it into
• 16:44
  Speaker 1: the cut. But yeah, a little off screen moment. Okay, well, Connor,
• 16:49
  Speaker 1: like this is not technically a spoiler, because you can
• 16:54
  Speaker 1: do the math on it, on the dates and all
• 16:56
  Speaker 1: that you kissed that girl in the odd and at
• 17:00
  Speaker 1: mentell all and you liked it and you asked for
• 17:03
  Speaker 1: her number, and that was taped in July. So I
• 17:07
  Speaker 1: just have this inkling that maybe Paradise doesn't go in
• 17:11
  Speaker 1: the most positive direction for you, like maybe you don't
• 17:13
  Speaker 1: find love. Did anything happen with that girl because we
• 17:17
  Speaker 1: did here in the aftermath that she was a hired actress,
• 17:21
  Speaker 1: so like they're really putting you through the ringer. Well, um,
• 17:27
  Speaker 1: there's okay. So the hired actress thing. They asked for
• 17:29
  Speaker 1: volunteers to kiss me and she volunteers, so she was
• 17:36
  Speaker 1: She was really pretty. So I got her number and
• 17:38
  Speaker 1: we definitely talked in FaceTime to bid. But you know,
• 17:40
  Speaker 1: she lives in l A. I live in Nashville, so
• 17:42
  Speaker 1: I think, uh, for now, we'll probably just be friends.
• 17:45
  Speaker 1: But she's pretty amazing. I mean, finds love in Paradise,
• 17:50
  Speaker 1: I would celebrate it. If he doesn't. I'm not worried
• 17:53
  Speaker 1: about the guy, like at all, Like, uh, he lives
• 17:57
  Speaker 1: in Nashville one and he's going to be the most
• 17:59
  Speaker 1: popular are do in the US because Nashville is the
• 18:01
  Speaker 1: bachelorette capital of the world. None of how my buddies
• 18:04
  Speaker 1: treated it once we got them with our show at Nashville,
• 18:07
  Speaker 1: I'm not worried about him. Um, thanks, thank you now.
• 18:13
  Speaker 1: Um yeah, so we see this most sery play out.
• 18:16
  Speaker 1: I want to dive into a bit for you. Um,
• 18:20
  Speaker 1: you seem heartbroken, especially this week. UM, I don't know
• 18:25
  Speaker 1: what to ask first about your outfit and why you
• 18:27
  Speaker 1: decided that was a good idea. I think it was
• 18:29
  Speaker 1: a feature, just just to be clear kind of. I
• 18:34
  Speaker 1: think it is a fantastic idea, like if I went
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: to Paradise. I've always had this philosophy on this show.
• 18:41
  Speaker 1: I know I'm not the most fashionable. I know I'm
• 18:43
  Speaker 1: not gonna look as good as everybody else in suits
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: and all those like outfits that they put on. So
• 18:49
  Speaker 1: like my strategy and Paradise would be to be ridiculous
• 18:52
  Speaker 1: and just to like where whatever it takes. That feels
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: like you picked it out of like a thrift shop.
• 18:59
  Speaker 1: That was one of those moves. I respect you, So
• 19:02
  Speaker 1: I guess I'll start there. Where did you find that outfit?
• 19:05
  Speaker 1: Why did you just said that was a good idea,
• 19:06
  Speaker 1: and why did that. Do you think this is gonna
• 19:09
  Speaker 1: be something I wear as somebody's looking for their husband? Okay,
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: let me answer does in order? I think I found
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: it on Zara online and I saw it and I
• 19:18
  Speaker 1: was like, oh my god, I want to wear that. Uh.
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: And I had one of my best friends here in
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: Nashville helped me plan out all my outfits for both
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: Bachelor at Ambaschelor in Paradise, and I showed her that
• 19:27
  Speaker 1: outfit and she said, no, you are not wearing that
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: on television. And I said okay, and then I took
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: it anyway. And that morning I was looking through my
• 19:37
  Speaker 1: clothes and I was kind of bummed because you know,
• 19:41
  Speaker 1: the date with Mercenarilly, and I was like, we're going
• 19:44
  Speaker 1: in guns blazon. Let's do it, baby, full confidence. Let's
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: put on something that makes me feel I don't know
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: about sexy, but it makes me feel confident. At least.
• 19:53
  Speaker 1: It didn't make you feel confident or were you just you?
• 19:56
  Speaker 1: I looked at that outfit and thought you were like, up,
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: I give throwing in the towel, right, But you felt
• 20:04
  Speaker 1: great in it? Oh? I felt great. I felt like
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: I looked good. I felt like I was rocking and rolling.
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: I felt like everybody was checking me out. I was like, hell, yeah,
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: I take some confidence to rock a rock a onesie
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: like that. We're just gonna go for it. Uh. And
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: so I threw it on and I felt great, and
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: then I went and started my stuff. I like you,
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: I know you. Actually, I feel like you don't like
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: the outfit. I didn't love the outfit for the reasoning
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: that you. I feel like, if you it was not
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: a seducing outfit. And perhaps in the moment, I was
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: hoping that maybe like you would be more in a
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: seductive mode. But seductive isn't really my my m O.
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: I am a goofball. I know who I am. If
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: somebody doesn't accept me, my doctor isn't either. I was
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: gonna stay like you and I both to relate with this,
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: Like if you and I are trying to show up
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: to the beach and be said active like, we're gonna
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: fail miserably. It's gonna be awful for both of us.
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: Now here's the other things. Yeah, well, I have to
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: say this. I have to have to say this. I
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: trump you as far as embarrassing outfit choices in Paradise
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: because when Jared dumped me in Paradise like and he
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: left like the time that it was for real. Um,
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: I was wearing an I'm a Kim shirt referring to
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: I'm a Kim Kardashian with a high waisted skirt, and
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: Jade knew that he was gonna dump me, and she
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: was like, I don't know how to tell her. She
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: should probably change her shirt because it's going to be
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: even more demoralizing. So she didn't. And now, in hindsight,
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: I think it's absolutely hilarious. I was wearing I'm a
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: Kim shirt in that moment. But you know, now that
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: I remember all this, now I'm saying salute to you.
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: So I mean, just a little piece that we've never
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: talked about. I'm all for it because in high school
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: I was the guy in the football locker room who
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: would like get changed for football practice and be having
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: on like the banana hammock that was like leather and
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: just like wait until people commented, or not leather, leopard, sorry, leopard,
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: like one of those things that the Magic Mike guys.
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: I feel like that would translate over to Paradise where
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: I would be the one that would show up in
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: a wild outfit. Because if somebody's attracted that and can
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: giggle about it, then I'm like, hey, we've got something.
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: But if you just want me to be like ripped
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: and show off all the time, I'm never gonna be
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: able to sustain that. Like I'm I'm I got about
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: a day of that maybe, And I would like to
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: see a picture of you in this leopard print banana hammock.
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: I hope that exists. Bring out the sluice. Well. The
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: other thing is Marissa and I and I don't think
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: you got to see a lot of this. We were
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: goofballs together, Like we would just sit there and crack
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: each other up about the dumbest and like literally our
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: conversations were hysterical. Just and me, Demi and Marissa sat
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: in the pool the day before talking about the dumbie
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: You've ever heard. It was so funny and we were
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: like I was crying laughing with those two. And so
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: I knew that, like Marriss' is a goofball too, and
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: she would you know, I wasn't trying to seduce her.
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: I was just trying to truly, we wouldn't know that
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: because we see her as like this, you know, like
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: whoa like really sensual comes on just talk about Leopard
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: with her boobies in that left outfit. No, she's she's
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: so gorgeous and hot, but she's also so like just
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: fun to talk to and she's a goofball. We didn't
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: get to see that. That's frustrating that. I feel like
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: that would have added to the element for us, is
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: being like, hey, now I get my town are so upset,
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: Like it had a lot of fun, like of course
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: he doesn't have Marrissa like her and really have such
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: a bigger thing going on, but we didn't get to
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: see your connection. Yeah, and that's why that's why I
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: was so nonchalant and non worried about her going the date,
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: because I knew the connection that Marissa and I had,
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: and I thought, I honestly thought, uh, well, I don't
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: think there's any way that Riley is gonna like have
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: a connection like that with her. There's just no way.
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: Like we've hit it off, we cracked each other up,
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: we've like cried laughing and stuff together. So I really
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: wasn't worried. Um, and then I got worried after that.
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: All right, Yeah, so let's talk about that moment and like,
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: how your heart felt. Did it sink when you heard
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: it they went to the boom boom room. I honestly
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: didn't know if that was a rumor or not until
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: I watched the episode, So I heard it. Yeah, so
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: I heard that rumor. Uh, you know, Taj told me.
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: But then I also heard that maybe they just like
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: cuddled or maybe they didn't even go to the boom
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: boom room. So when I was there, I wasn't I
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: was also scared to ask people. I'm not gonna go
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: up to people and be like, hey, did they go
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: to the boom boom room? Like that just wasn't my Like,
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: it wasn't for me to know. If she wasn't going
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: to tell me, I guess so my heart definitely sank.
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: And that kind of changed my perspective because Merris and
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: I had that conversation the next morning, and I thought
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: we were still on. I thought things were still good
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: to go. And then like, even if she liked me
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: and Riley, I was okay with that, like we would
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: figure it out. Um. So, based on the conversation we
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: had that morning, I thought that she still really liked
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: me and wanted to pursue things. And then the that
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: whole rest of the day, she spent her entire day
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: with Riley like right next to him, and I was like, oh, okay,
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: like I'm starting to make sense of this. But I
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: that night when I talked to her, I basically had
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: to break up with myself for her, Yeah, because I
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: was like, I just I think she was afraid to
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: hurt me, and so I couldn't really get a straight
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: answer out of her. I was like, you know, but
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: after the whole day, it became pretty apparent, and then
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: they kind of showed up to the Bond Fire together
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: and I was like, okay, like I think I understand
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: what's happening here. So that special secret date that you
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: were trying to set up on campus never happened. Mm
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: hmm no, because you know, once I found out that
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: she like went to the Boom Boom room and then
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: saw the way she was just hanging out with Riley
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: the whole day, I was like, oh, I don't I
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: don't even think she would want to go on a
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: day with me tonight. But I had some cute plans,
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: like I was had. I had like a list of
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: ideas of the dates I was going to take her
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: on that night, you know, just trying to figure out
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: like what I could do on the beach and whatnot?
• 26:26
  Speaker 1: Well were they I wanted to do? I thought a
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: wine and paint night could be fun, like where we
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: just set up canvases on the beach and paint and
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: drink wine. Uh. What else? Did I have a taco
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: night where we just tried a bunch of different types
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: of tacos? Uh an ice cream bar or something like that?
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: We talked about ice cream and I had drunkenly eaten
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: up a ton of ice cream like two nights before. Uh.
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: I think there are a couple of others, but I
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: can't remember, just like fun little beach dates now not
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: to like I mean, I only asked this so to
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: give our the viewers and the listeners little bit more detail.
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: I've I've been shocked this season. And maybe it's just
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: because I'm more into this season and it's been a
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: while for Paradise, but you know, with the pain of
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: seeing people ding other people, I asked to actually last
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: ye because like, how does this happen? Like how are
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: you okay? How do you process through it? Um? Yeah?
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: And she said I'm not You're not okay with it,
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: and she kind of explained, but for you, Connor, as
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: you're seeing this happen, and now you're seeing this person
• 27:25
  Speaker 1: that you care about and that you're interested in come
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: to a bonfire with somebody else right in front of you,
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: and that in this environment it's acceptable. Still not okay,
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: Like still not doesn't mean it doesn't hurt, but still okay.
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: Like what are you feeling during that? Yeah, I mean
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: the confusing because there's not just one emotion you're feeling, right,
• 27:45
  Speaker 1: It's a lot. It's a mix of confusing emotions. And
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: I was still trying to make sense of everything because
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: I hadn't heard from her directly what was happening, and
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: so I think what I was feeling was just kind
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: of no, there was no anger at all. It was
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: just a little bit of sadness and a little bit
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: of like, well I was kind of excited about this,
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: but and now, and so that that like kind of
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: disappointment about this really could have been something like like
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: like I love the connection we had, and so it's
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: it's just that kind of like let down of realizing, uh,
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: you know, what's happening. And then also that's mixed in
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: with kind of almost still fresh off the breakup with
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: Katie Thurston of just feeling like, well, here we go
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: against someone not picking me, like someone just not like
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: just not getting chosen again. So having that add on
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: to that kind of just made me feel like, well,
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: what's what's wrong with me? Like? Why why do I
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: always not get picked on the beach or wherever it is?
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: And so I know that's international thought, but that's always
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: what pops up when that sort of thing happens. Um,
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: So that was definitely part of it. Would probably be
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: a bad HOSTS if we didn't ask um how your
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: psyche is doing with the whole kissing thing, because let's
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: be clear, really just meant that it was a chemistry thing,
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: not a skill thing. We hope that you didn't ever
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: interpret it otherwise. Oh, I definitely interpreted it otherwise, don't
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: worry the life. I literally came back from bach Thor
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: and I was like, I'm a terrible kisser. I that
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: thing on the TELLL. I texted my a couple of
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: exes and I was like, am I a bad kisser? Like?
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: So I was very much in my head, especially once
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: I got back and watched all the episodes. Got back
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: from paradise and then saw all the people talking about
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: me being a bad kisser and whatnot. Uh, and so
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: it's I won't lie. I'm very much in my head
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: when I kiss people. Now I am you know, I
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: wish I could just relax and kiss somebody. But always
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: in the back of my mind, I'm like, am I
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: doing a really terrible job? Like is this awful? Like
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: she hates this, blah blah blah. Like we're getting past that, though,
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: we're getting through that. Your pillow does not judge you,
• 29:57
  Speaker 1: just like it's the safest place. You appreciate that, Okay, practicing.
• 30:03
  Speaker 1: And I'll also say that, um, once you meet the
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: right person, it doesn't really matter how good of a
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: kiss who you are, Like it does maybe at times,
• 30:13
  Speaker 1: but like I'll kiss Jess, like when I have bad breath,
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: I'll kiss Jess, like walking to the the door, give a
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: little smooch and give it. Like once you meet the
• 30:23
  Speaker 1: right person, man, that that goes away. You should just
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: feel confident someone's gonna somebody's gonna fall in love with you.
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: And and that kissing thing about the window pretty soon
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: fix that's really beautiful. All right, we have just a
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: few more minutes left with you. But I do want
• 30:49
  Speaker 1: to ask about one couple whose relationship we saw kind
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: of fall apart this week, is Kenny and Marie with
• 30:56
  Speaker 1: the whole Demi triangle. There anything more to that that
• 30:59
  Speaker 1: you'd to add in and like, are we did? You?
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: Were us confused about Marie's message to Kenny as as
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: he was um? I think, yeah, I don't really know.
• 31:13
  Speaker 1: I can't speak on where Marie's head was at, but
• 31:15
  Speaker 1: I got to say I'm sure she was probably interested
• 31:19
  Speaker 1: in Kenny but just didn't want to lock it down
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: after you know, however many days it's been um. And
• 31:24
  Speaker 1: then I think I think obviously Kenny got a little
• 31:27
  Speaker 1: bit pissed and went off and was like, all right,
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: get then I'm gonna make out with Demi. Uh So
• 31:33
  Speaker 1: it was maybe not the clearest communication between them type
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: of thing. I don't think. I think Kenny probably took
• 31:40
  Speaker 1: it a little harder than Marie meant it to be taken. Um.
• 31:44
  Speaker 1: But also it's it's a confusing place, the beaches, and
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: you're running along not a lot of sleep. You know,
• 31:50
  Speaker 1: you might be hungover, drunk or anything like that. So
• 31:52
  Speaker 1: it's just it's a lot of times hard to process
• 31:54
  Speaker 1: emotions and what people are saying in real time. So
• 31:57
  Speaker 1: weird happens all the time. YEA, Now close up here,
• 32:04
  Speaker 1: I have a final question. I asking my final question.
• 32:06
  Speaker 1: You probably has a rapid fire for you prepared, Yeah,
• 32:10
  Speaker 1: but I want to ask him a question before we
• 32:12
  Speaker 1: get into it here. Um, Connor, you're dude from Nashville, UM,
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: who is up to a lot, who has a lot
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: of a lot of curious things that you're You're a
• 32:25
  Speaker 1: lot of things that you're curious about in life. And Um,
• 32:29
  Speaker 1: you go on this show, you come off the show,
• 32:31
  Speaker 1: and I would say that from our perspective, you should
• 32:34
  Speaker 1: I'm not gonna tell you how to feel, but I
• 32:36
  Speaker 1: would say, hey, you should have some more confidence maybe
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: than when you walked in, Like, Um, you've got a
• 32:40
  Speaker 1: lot of good attention. People have been very interested in you.
• 32:44
  Speaker 1: You've taken your your your hits, and and you're gonna
• 32:47
  Speaker 1: stand back up and walk into it. How are you
• 32:49
  Speaker 1: doing today? If you're explained what it feels like to
• 32:52
  Speaker 1: be Connor Brennan walking into Nashville, Tennessee as a man
• 32:56
  Speaker 1: that's been on this show and is now um getting
• 33:00
  Speaker 1: back out there. How how do you feel? How are
• 33:02
  Speaker 1: you personally, Uh, that's a really great question and thank
• 33:06
  Speaker 1: you for asking. Um it's been I will be honest,
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: it's been a roller coaster. It's been mostly great with
• 33:11
  Speaker 1: some with a couple of loads here and there, Like
• 33:13
  Speaker 1: last week with the Lance Bass thing, not just him
• 33:16
  Speaker 1: saying it, but then all the people coming out and
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: saying terrible things initially about me wanting to be there
• 33:21
  Speaker 1: for music. I was really down. I was really really
• 33:24
  Speaker 1: had a terrible day. I basically just laid in bed
• 33:25
  Speaker 1: all day. I was really like sad and pressed. And
• 33:28
  Speaker 1: then the next day this overwhelming amount of support and
• 33:33
  Speaker 1: love and like my mom made a Twitter account just
• 33:35
  Speaker 1: to tweak something nice to me, and just like so
• 33:38
  Speaker 1: many people saying kind things, and I was like I
• 33:40
  Speaker 1: was being stupid yesterday. I'm so lucky. I'm so incredibly
• 33:43
  Speaker 1: like grateful for what this experience has given me. So
• 33:46
  Speaker 1: that's why I'm right now, That's why I'm back at
• 33:49
  Speaker 1: is just like, how lucky am I to have gotten
• 33:51
  Speaker 1: to be on this show, to have met such incredible people, um,
• 33:55
  Speaker 1: and to have been able to really learn things about
• 33:58
  Speaker 1: myself and come out with so it's more confidence. I
• 34:01
  Speaker 1: am a hundred times more confident than I was walking
• 34:03
  Speaker 1: in with that cats. I was terrified. I thought I
• 34:06
  Speaker 1: was getting sent home night one. And so it's just
• 34:08
  Speaker 1: like seeing the changes in myself over the past few
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: months has been crazy. So it feels really really great,
• 34:15
  Speaker 1: and I'm mostly just just a lot of gratitude for
• 34:18
  Speaker 1: everything that this has been. It's, uh, it's interesting because
• 34:22
  Speaker 1: those are the things that we think back on. Actually,
• 34:24
  Speaker 1: I talked about it even offline a lot like where
• 34:27
  Speaker 1: you go on you think you can be let go
• 34:29
  Speaker 1: on night one and you are now all of a
• 34:31
  Speaker 1: sudden thrust in this whole new world but you never expected.
• 34:35
  Speaker 1: But that changes you for better and allows you to
• 34:37
  Speaker 1: meet people, actually meets your husband, and I still think,
• 34:39
  Speaker 1: you know, meeting my fiance came from you know, the
• 34:42
  Speaker 1: show and her trust, her mom's trust. That I wasn't
• 34:46
  Speaker 1: like some weirdo message you understand, but like life will
• 34:50
  Speaker 1: make sense over time. I will say this, we warn
• 34:53
  Speaker 1: everybody because you're not the only one that deals with
• 34:55
  Speaker 1: There's people listening to deal with it. The hating, the trolls,
• 35:01
  Speaker 1: UM don't stop necessarily, UM, but you become a little
• 35:05
  Speaker 1: more resilient, you grow, you grow some grit some character
• 35:08
  Speaker 1: over time. But you're not alone in that, and I
• 35:10
  Speaker 1: want to shoot that with you. Is actually I talked about,
• 35:13
  Speaker 1: you're not alone in that. We both we're in it,
• 35:15
  Speaker 1: We've been through it, we'll still be in it. Um,
• 35:18
  Speaker 1: So stay strong, buddy, Thanks for coming on. Now pass
• 35:20
  Speaker 1: it off to Astley to close this out with rapid
• 35:24
  Speaker 1: fire because she's great at it. Thanks, but I really
• 35:25
  Speaker 1: appreciate that. It's really fun when we wrapped with this. Okay,
• 35:29
  Speaker 1: So what is say you are, you know, doing a
• 35:32
  Speaker 1: set in Nashville, you're doing your music thing. What is
• 35:35
  Speaker 1: your go to cover song Walking in Memphis by Mark Conan?
• 35:40
  Speaker 1: So good? Yeah, oh good? Who was the Bachelor alum
• 35:48
  Speaker 1: that you wanted to see in flirt with a Paradise
• 35:51
  Speaker 1: but you didn't get it? Other than Ashley Brittany Calvin
• 35:58
  Speaker 1: for sure from that season? Okay, very good. Uh let's
• 36:01
  Speaker 1: see she was in your song, wasn't she? She was?
• 36:05
  Speaker 1: She was? Yep, and just send you a Nabigail. Okay.
• 36:08
  Speaker 1: So then what about who is a celebrity that you
• 36:13
  Speaker 1: wish you could slide into their d ms and get
• 36:16
  Speaker 1: a response from. Oh wow, that's a really good one. Um. Okay,
• 36:21
  Speaker 1: not in a romantic way. But I did, um d
• 36:24
  Speaker 1: m Olivia Rodrigo because Wells posted this photo of saying
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: that I was like the Olivia Rodrigo of Paradise or
• 36:31
  Speaker 1: something like that, and I d m Olivia and I
• 36:33
  Speaker 1: was like, Hey, we should write a song to make
• 36:35
  Speaker 1: Wells cry. So that's my She's such a great songwriter.
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: No she didn't. What was your go to order at
• 36:45
  Speaker 1: Wells's bar? So? Wells would make this spicy margarita that
• 36:50
  Speaker 1: I would go for every time, and basically progressively every
• 36:53
  Speaker 1: day I would tell him to make it a little
• 36:55
  Speaker 1: bit spicier, so he put a little bit more like
• 36:57
  Speaker 1: Hallapenia in there. So by the end I was just
• 36:58
  Speaker 1: like coughing every time I drank k It was great,
• 37:00
  Speaker 1: got me alive, It's perfect. Um. Do you have you
• 37:05
  Speaker 1: ever used a pickup line? Oh? God, I'm sure I'm
• 37:11
  Speaker 1: sure I have at some point. I'm really really bad
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  Speaker 1: at just walking up to like a girl in a bar.
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  Speaker 1: I can't do that sometimes. That's you know why I
• 37:19
  Speaker 1: play music so people come talk to me because I'm
• 37:21
  Speaker 1: too nervous to go talk to people. Um. But if
• 37:23
  Speaker 1: I was gonna use a pick up line, it would
• 37:25
  Speaker 1: probably be something, Matthew. It would be a pun, A
• 37:27
  Speaker 1: dumb pun, for sure, because you're very funny, as we
• 37:30
  Speaker 1: saw in that one episode, Thank You. Arguably, what's your
• 37:35
  Speaker 1: favorite food? Favorite food is ice cream? Hands down? Love
• 37:38
  Speaker 1: ice cream. I could he did every day. I actually did.
• 37:40
  Speaker 1: He did every day for like a year once, so big.
• 37:43
  Speaker 1: What's your favorite flavor? Then? Pretty basic? I like cookie dough.
• 37:47
  Speaker 1: I gotta be honest. I love a big chunk of cookie,
• 37:49
  Speaker 1: though chocolate's my favorite, so I'm very basic as well.
• 37:53
  Speaker 1: And then my last question for you is what's your
• 37:55
  Speaker 1: most embarrassing moment of all time? Of all time? Oh
• 38:00
  Speaker 1: my god, um, shoot, put me on the spot with
• 38:04
  Speaker 1: that one. I don't know if I'm gonna be able
• 38:06
  Speaker 1: to think of that spot. Um, there's one that's in
• 38:09
  Speaker 1: your head right now that you don't want to share
• 38:11
  Speaker 1: because you just need to share it. I actually I'm
• 38:16
  Speaker 1: blanking out completely right now. What have I been very
• 38:18
  Speaker 1: embarrassed by? Um? I went to France, uh with my
• 38:24
  Speaker 1: girlfriend at the time. This was like a few years ago.
• 38:26
  Speaker 1: Went to Paris. We went to the Louver. Was awesome.
• 38:30
  Speaker 1: I got really drunk on wine the night before I
• 38:33
  Speaker 1: had a bottle of wine each or something like that.
• 38:35
  Speaker 1: We go into the louver. So I am crazy hungover
• 38:38
  Speaker 1: in the loop, just like hating my life, but seeing
• 38:40
  Speaker 1: this beautiful art and being like, wow, this is great.
• 38:42
  Speaker 1: I'm so hungover. I feel like death. I want to die.
• 38:45
  Speaker 1: And so we go to the little like the little
• 38:47
  Speaker 1: coffee stand in the louver uh, and we're gonna try
• 38:51
  Speaker 1: to get some coffee and like a croissan or some
• 38:53
  Speaker 1: sandwich or something like that to bring me back to life.
• 38:56
  Speaker 1: And I have been trying to learn a tiny bit
• 38:57
  Speaker 1: of French, like just enough to order, and so I tried.
• 39:02
  Speaker 1: I tried to order something in French. It came out
• 39:06
  Speaker 1: in Spanish because because I know a little bit of Spanish,
• 39:10
  Speaker 1: so I ended up saying something in Spanish with a
• 39:12
  Speaker 1: French accent, but also completely wrong in both languages. And
• 39:16
  Speaker 1: so I like walked up, tried to order something, came
• 39:18
  Speaker 1: out in Spanish, and the guy, like this French guy
• 39:21
  Speaker 1: just like stares at me and all of a sudden,
• 39:25
  Speaker 1: like my girlf at the time looks at me, She's
• 39:26
  Speaker 1: like what what did you just say? Like what just
• 39:29
  Speaker 1: geve out of your mouth? And I literally just like
• 39:31
  Speaker 1: let her order and I just like slunk away and
• 39:33
  Speaker 1: like like slumped my head down. I thought you were
• 39:35
  Speaker 1: going to the guy that would have been a better story,
• 39:40
  Speaker 1: and then I borrowed on him. Yea. The nothing makes
• 39:44
  Speaker 1: you dumber than than the day after a night out. God,
• 39:47
  Speaker 1: it's makes you question everything. Um. Hey, h Connie, thanks
• 39:54
  Speaker 1: for coming on man, thanks for spending the time with us.
• 39:57
  Speaker 1: Wishing the best. We hope you come back on again.
• 40:00
  Speaker 1: Um and uh and break down some episodes with us
• 40:03
  Speaker 1: or just chat life. Um, it's been a pleasure. Ashley,
• 40:08
  Speaker 1: it's been so fun. So thank you for being here
• 40:11
  Speaker 1: and for giving us your time. Connor, you have been
• 40:15
  Speaker 1: a joy to get to know, especially over the past
• 40:18
  Speaker 1: four to five minutes, because I feel like we really
• 40:20
  Speaker 1: have gotten to get to know you more so, Connor,
• 40:23
  Speaker 1: you have to follow our lead. I've been Ashley, I've
• 40:25
  Speaker 1: been Connor, and I've been been Thanks for joining the
• 40:28
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