Latest / The Huddle / 01/28/26 - Hour 1
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- 0:04Speaker 1: I'm Doug Russell, former Packers coach. Mike McCarthy emotional and
- 0:08Speaker 1: his return to Pittsburgh as the new head coach of
- 0:10Speaker 1: the Steelers.
- 0:11Speaker 2: I understand and brace the responsibility, the privilege in the
- 0:13Speaker 2: way that comes with the steward ship out of city,
- 0:17Speaker 2: this franchise, this fan base maids the world for me,
- 0:23Speaker 2: because Pittsburgh's my world and it s as awesome Rebuker.
- 0:28Speaker 1: As for Aaron Rodgers returning, McCarthy says, no decision has
- 0:31Speaker 1: been made to basketball. The Bucks lose to the seventy
- 0:34Speaker 1: six Ers one thirty nine to one. Twenty two college hoops,
- 0:37Speaker 1: it was Marquette all over Creighton at Fine ser Form
- 0:40Speaker 1: eighty six to sixty two. The Badgers host Minnesota tonight,
- 0:43Speaker 1: starting at eight on the ice. The Admirals beat Rockford
- 0:46Speaker 1: five to three, and the Brewers have invited nine minor
- 0:48Speaker 1: leaguers to Major League camp, including number three overall MLV
- 0:51Speaker 1: prospect Jesus Monday, the huddle starts now. I'm Doug Russell
- 0:55Speaker 1: on Fox Sports Radio Wisconsin.
- 1:00Speaker 3: Good morning, Wisconsin, and welcome to the huddle. I'm all
- 1:04Speaker 3: for someone huddling. If you have something to say.
- 1:09Speaker 4: Right into it's time to wake up and talk about
- 1:12Speaker 4: the teams you love.
- 1:13Speaker 5: Nobody work nobody with the guys you love.
- 1:17Speaker 6: It's just about getting the group together.
- 1:19Speaker 3: I need you, you need me.
- 1:20Speaker 5: Today, Let's keep touching each other. Let's make sure we
- 1:23Speaker 5: feel each other.
- 1:24Speaker 4: Let's make sure we smell each other for a half.
- 1:26Speaker 3: Watch us on YouTube, Facebook and act.
- 1:29Speaker 6: You need fifteen or twenty huddles to core away with
- 1:31Speaker 6: a number of cameras.
- 1:32Speaker 2: Take the cameras off the field and their final hubble.
- 1:35Speaker 3: Now gather around because it's time to huddle up West
- 1:38Speaker 3: Leftlotte Relink. We watch stick on one, ready to learn
- 1:40Speaker 3: from what if it looks like man covered, I'll check,
- 1:43Speaker 3: I'll go order, Yeah, you got cutting crack, I'll cutting crack,
- 1:46Speaker 3: run ride eighteen Bob on one ready.
- 1:48Speaker 5: Cut me crap.
- 1:49Speaker 3: You'll look at this play.
- 1:49Speaker 1: What we're trying to get is a seal here and
- 1:52Speaker 1: a seal here, and to try to.
- 1:53Speaker 7: Run this play in the hours.
- 1:59Speaker 5: Let's go on to Yeah and they.
- 2:06Speaker 3: Can play be right all the way outside?
- 2:08Speaker 7: Why left bake three ninety sick bag be in see punk?
- 2:13Speaker 1: Is that long enough for watching to be part of
- 2:14Speaker 1: a professional It's a great professional go out there and
- 2:16Speaker 1: play this ball game like I know you can play it.
- 2:19Speaker 6: It's Drew Olson, mythical legendary figure Schmid.
- 2:22Speaker 3: Oh my god, this man's been out all night.
- 2:25Speaker 7: Armand Sorry, don't get skinny, were ready.
- 2:29Speaker 3: Fox Sports Radio Wisconsin is on the air.
- 2:36Speaker 5: Fired up and ready for the Wednesday edition of the Huddle.
- 2:39Speaker 6: Let's get it Drew Wilson, joined by the Pride of
- 2:42Speaker 6: Carol University, Billy Schmid and ring Out Ahoya himself, armand Sorian.
- 2:47Speaker 7: Come on now as listen as the great poet Marvin
- 2:50Speaker 7: gay One said, let's get it on. That's great, get
- 2:52Speaker 7: it on, And that's a great way to start up
- 2:54Speaker 7: a hot day, humpday, right, I mean, now, there's.
- 2:56Speaker 5: A lot of ways that you can flare up.
- 2:58Speaker 7: The midweek part of the day are the middle of
- 3:01Speaker 7: the weekday, and I know that our guy Arman sorry
- 3:04Speaker 7: and over on the other side there there have been days, Drew.
- 3:07Speaker 7: There have been a lot of days, especially here into
- 3:10Speaker 7: the twenty twenty six, where this poor soul is walked
- 3:12Speaker 7: in here very very dejected and downright sad, and I
- 3:17Speaker 7: feel very bad for him. But this morning strutted in
- 3:21Speaker 7: kind of like Rick Flair walking down that ramp being
- 3:23Speaker 7: able to give a whoo because those Golden Eagles just
- 3:27Speaker 7: chalack the Blue.
- 3:29Speaker 5: Jays last night.
- 3:30Speaker 3: Yeah, good over.
- 3:32Speaker 8: There, it was I got a nice I don't know
- 3:34Speaker 8: what team that was, but I welcome him any time.
- 3:36Speaker 3: Didn't want to come in this in this advisor for Marena.
- 3:39Speaker 7: Now I know you and you and your wife and
- 3:41Speaker 7: not talking about it, but if indeed you you guys
- 3:43Speaker 7: have a next child that being a boy, what's the
- 3:47Speaker 7: possibility that Nigel or James ends up being one of
- 3:50Speaker 7: those two names?
- 3:50Speaker 5: Because this young man has to be a feeling like
- 3:52Speaker 5: savior for you guys.
- 3:53Speaker 8: So far, well he's been. He's been a revelation, there's
- 3:56Speaker 8: no doubt. And he's been the silver lining and in
- 3:57Speaker 8: the dark clouds of Marquette basketball this year. And he
- 4:00Speaker 8: just keeps getting better and better. Now, you know, the
- 4:03Speaker 8: Cynics and US will ask themselves how much will he
- 4:06Speaker 8: start to cost.
- 4:07Speaker 3: You know, in this new world and to keep him around?
- 4:09Speaker 3: But now he was definitely great. I don't know.
- 4:12Speaker 8: I you know, guys, I was at the arena last
- 4:14Speaker 8: night for the Admirals game, obviously, and the cold winds
- 4:18Speaker 8: downtown came this strange rumbling of a halftime score that
- 4:22Speaker 8: I could not believe when I opened my eyes and
- 4:24Speaker 8: looked at my score bug at and I said, something
- 4:26Speaker 8: must be wrong here or I've got is this the
- 4:28Speaker 8: market women?
- 4:29Speaker 7: Or what? Like?
- 4:30Speaker 8: What is this? Are the men playing tonight? Or like
- 4:32Speaker 8: what's going on? Like we yeah, what's happening here? Are
- 4:35Speaker 8: we really doing this tonight? But thankfully, when you go
- 4:38Speaker 8: up I, you know, thirty points ish in the first half,
- 4:41Speaker 8: you say to yourself, well, I don't think we're gonna
- 4:43Speaker 8: blow this lead.
- 4:44Speaker 3: And they and they didn't do it.
- 4:46Speaker 8: And Marquette for once was on the uh on the
- 4:49Speaker 8: other side of the dump trucking.
- 4:50Speaker 3: So that was really great to see.
- 4:51Speaker 8: It warmed my cockles in a year that we have
- 4:54Speaker 8: been struggling at maybe this is the start.
- 4:56Speaker 5: This is, you know, but the start of something new.
- 4:59Speaker 8: Who always talks about the eight to nine and to
- 5:01Speaker 8: twelve year old that's the crucible of being a fan,
- 5:03Speaker 8: right and that and that ten year old was inside
- 5:06Speaker 8: me last night after a win.
- 5:07Speaker 3: Light that's in Look at this team, Look at this team.
- 5:09Speaker 3: See maybe this is the start. Maybe things could turn
- 5:13Speaker 3: around now all the way ride.
- 5:14Speaker 6: This wave to the Big East title. Into the week sixteen.
- 5:18Speaker 6: Let's go, let's go all the way.
- 5:20Speaker 3: I don't know that's gonna happen, but it was great.
- 5:22Speaker 5: To say it's not gonna happen.
- 5:24Speaker 6: Well, all right, boys, we begin today with question and
- 5:26Speaker 6: this hot te compte will fire those up. We'renna take
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- 5:30Speaker 6: eight seven seven seven nine four one ninety seven three.
- 5:33Speaker 5: But then a little subdivision, little sidebar, if you will.
- 5:37Speaker 5: I'm wondering.
- 5:38Speaker 6: Got me thinking about your favorite memes because there are
- 5:42Speaker 6: several memes that are devoted to people eating popcorn. There's
- 5:47Speaker 6: Phil Hayter, there's like the Michael Jacks Jacks.
- 5:50Speaker 7: Yeah, this should make one of Tom Cruise when he
- 5:53Speaker 7: was eating popcorn in front of that movie theater group
- 5:55Speaker 7: where he's throwing him into his mouth one hundred percent.
- 5:58Speaker 3: So even though it was an Obama popcorn me.
- 6:01Speaker 5: So, I'm like, there are several popcorn memes.
- 6:04Speaker 6: And the reason I'm thinking of that is because that's
- 6:06Speaker 6: me last night at around dinner time, had the TV
- 6:10Speaker 6: on and I'm eating the popcorn figurative leaf corn is
- 6:13Speaker 6: not really eating popcorn. Although I like popcorn, my wife
- 6:15Speaker 6: makes it a lot.
- 6:16Speaker 5: She does.
- 6:16Speaker 6: She makes really good popcorn on the stovetop, not in
- 6:19Speaker 6: the microwave.
- 6:20Speaker 5: That's battling.
- 6:22Speaker 6: Like she takes pride in her popcorn, not like our
- 6:25Speaker 6: fresh Douglas with his own.
- 6:27Speaker 5: We're not talking.
- 6:27Speaker 6: We don't have the popper in our house like the
- 6:29Speaker 6: actual dedicated.
- 6:32Speaker 3: As that have, you know, not lasting in this building.
- 6:35Speaker 8: The one thing that has is that popcorn machine is right,
- 6:38Speaker 8: and dog makes popcorn as good as anybody.
- 6:41Speaker 5: More microphones in.
- 6:42Speaker 6: But I was singing to the popcorn meme because I'm
- 6:44Speaker 6: watching the Four Letter Network and social media meltdown over
- 6:49Speaker 6: Belichick not being in the first ballot, and I'm like, oh,
- 6:53Speaker 6: so an election took place. People don't like the results,
- 6:57Speaker 6: and we get to talk about the self absorbed holier
- 6:59Speaker 6: than our who they think they know everything. Voters who
- 7:03Speaker 6: vote for the Pro Football Hall of Fame, as a
- 7:05Speaker 6: twenty year voter in the Baseball Writers Association, in the
- 7:08Speaker 6: National Baseball Hall of Fame, we are a bunch of
- 7:11Speaker 6: idiots because one guy didn't vote for each y row well,
- 7:14Speaker 6: they had ten guys that didn't vote, or at least ten,
- 7:16Speaker 6: I'm not really sure what the rame. At least they
- 7:17Speaker 6: could be Yea east Ten didn't vote for Belichick in
- 7:20Speaker 6: the hall, which is more egregious than a guy not
- 7:23Speaker 6: being unanimous.
- 7:25Speaker 2: Right.
- 7:25Speaker 3: Absolutely.
- 7:26Speaker 6: I'm just sitting there watching this, going, oh, let those
- 7:29Speaker 6: guys have their time, their asses in the jackpot, now.
- 7:34Speaker 3: The popcorn.
- 7:35Speaker 5: I'm like, oh, okay, so, and.
- 7:40Speaker 6: They had fifty voters between like, and there's four hundred
- 7:42Speaker 6: and fifty in baseball, and baseball you gotta have seventy
- 7:44Speaker 6: five percent to get in and this here, you have
- 7:46Speaker 6: to have forty to fifty in this round of voting.
- 7:49Speaker 7: In a different senior coaching committee where there is a
- 7:52Speaker 7: certain different legislation.
- 7:53Speaker 6: Different legislation to it and different it's a different it's
- 7:56Speaker 6: an offshoot.
- 7:57Speaker 5: But everybody's like, who are these idiots take away their
- 7:59Speaker 5: vote because I don't like the way they voted.
- 8:02Speaker 6: That's I can say that about a lot of elections
- 8:04Speaker 6: that have happened in the past.
- 8:06Speaker 7: Well, and I think there's a there's something to just
- 8:09Speaker 7: being able to explain it. And this is my favorite
- 8:11Speaker 7: part of guys like you in the baseball world that
- 8:13Speaker 7: just put the ballot out and and I do this
- 8:16Speaker 7: is why I voted, and this is how I voted,
- 8:18Speaker 7: and I'm excited to see if this is Ice Bowl
- 8:20Speaker 7: territory with the who voted for Belichick, because all of
- 8:24Speaker 7: a sudden, we're gonna find fifty voters that voted for Belichick.
- 8:26Speaker 5: Yes, I voted for well, yeah, of course I've had Bill.
- 8:30Speaker 5: The first guy they looked at was.
- 8:32Speaker 3: Bill Polly, That was the one I couldn't belie telling.
- 8:34Speaker 6: People, well, maybe we should park him for a while
- 8:36Speaker 6: because of the flake Gate and spygate. And then it's
- 8:38Speaker 6: like he said that to people and then asked yesterday,
- 8:41Speaker 6: He's like, ah, absolutely voted.
- 8:42Speaker 5: I was at the Ice Bowl. I was freezing my
- 8:44Speaker 5: ass off, and I thought.
- 8:45Speaker 8: I saw a quote that he said he couldn't remember
- 8:47Speaker 8: for sure, but he's ninety goeta, Bill, But I don't
- 8:54Speaker 8: believe you at all that you remember.
- 8:55Speaker 3: I don't all believe you.
- 8:57Speaker 6: It is a bit of a traps players J. J.
- 8:59Speaker 6: Whyt The core the Greek chorus is like, how can
- 9:02Speaker 6: this happen? It's an atrocity? Which all right, right? And
- 9:06Speaker 6: Cooper's down at the end of July, the last Sunday
- 9:08Speaker 6: in July, Carlos Beltran's gonna go in now? Is he
- 9:11Speaker 6: a first ballot Hall of Famer to you, maybe not right, He's.
- 9:15Speaker 5: Like, eh, Hall of Famer. He's in, so he's a
- 9:18Speaker 5: Hall of Famer.
- 9:19Speaker 6: Numbers would put him in, Yeah, but his candidacy may
- 9:22Speaker 6: have been clouded by right before he was done at
- 9:24Speaker 6: the end of his career, he was the centerpiece of
- 9:27Speaker 6: that cheating scandal with the astros and banging the trash can.
- 9:30Speaker 6: He was like one of the ring leaders of it,
- 9:31Speaker 6: and that couldn't have helped. Now, is that rise to
- 9:33Speaker 6: the level of steroids? Another discussion cheating the game? Integery
- 9:38Speaker 6: to the game. One of the one of the criteria
- 9:40Speaker 6: for voting for the Hall of Fame, it's on the
- 9:42Speaker 6: ballot is character yep, character clause All right, are there
- 9:46Speaker 6: vendettas here? Does it make the Hall look bad? I
- 9:49Speaker 6: didn't even looked. I didn't even get to the story
- 9:51Speaker 6: of like who's going in, Like who advanced We don't
- 9:54Speaker 6: know yet yet. But Belichick didn't advance. But he didn't
- 9:57Speaker 6: make the group and he was told Friday. So obviously
- 10:01Speaker 6: Bill Belichick is a Pro Football Hall of Fame coach. Now,
- 10:04Speaker 6: my thing is part of the flaw in the system
- 10:07Speaker 6: is it's always systemic because a lot of times in
- 10:09Speaker 6: baseball problem problems arose because on the baseball writer's ballot,
- 10:13Speaker 6: on the the one we get, you can only vote
- 10:14Speaker 6: for ten guys, and sometimes that created situations where, well,
- 10:19Speaker 6: that guy doesn't need my vote, I'm gonna vote for
- 10:21Speaker 6: this other guy because that other guy's.
- 10:22Speaker 5: Gonna get in.
- 10:23Speaker 6: And I have used that those very gymnastics when filling
- 10:26Speaker 6: out my ballot. It's like, okay, well, yeah, that guy's
- 10:29Speaker 6: gonna or even if you have five percent to stay
- 10:32Speaker 6: on the ballot, like I'm gonna vote for this guy,
- 10:34Speaker 6: so he stays on the ballot and I'm not gonna
- 10:35Speaker 6: vote for that guy, and it's gonna hurt his totals
- 10:37Speaker 6: this time, you know what I mean. So you do
- 10:39Speaker 6: do that calculus?
- 10:40Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, it.
- 10:41Speaker 5: Shouldn't come into it, but you can't help it. It is.
- 10:45Speaker 6: You do the calculus there. So somebody might have done that.
- 10:48Speaker 6: There might have been people with a personal a vendetta.
- 10:51Speaker 6: A lot of people will say, well, it's because he
- 10:52Speaker 6: wasn't nice to writers.
- 10:53Speaker 5: That's not it. No one really can.
- 10:54Speaker 7: I don't even know that he would have been not
- 10:56Speaker 7: nice to any of the writers that were voting for it.
- 10:58Speaker 5: Yeah, how was he not nice? To Bill Polly, you know,
- 11:00Speaker 5: and beating his teams. Yeah, multiple times.
- 11:03Speaker 6: Yeah, So the politics of it, no one wants to
- 11:06Speaker 6: see how the sausage has made. But the big flaw
- 11:08Speaker 6: in this is the adjustment where you don't have to
- 11:11Speaker 6: wait five years anymore. So me, it's like they just
- 11:14Speaker 6: changed that right for coaches. You don't have to wait
- 11:16Speaker 6: five years.
- 11:17Speaker 7: Why just changed it for coaches in the idea that
- 11:20Speaker 7: like they wanted to make sure. I think that they
- 11:22Speaker 7: got guys in before they passed away potentially, But.
- 11:24Speaker 6: Also, well, who's coaching till their ninety these days? Mark
- 11:27Speaker 6: Levier walking through that door?
- 11:29Speaker 7: That's very true. But I think that you could see
- 11:31Speaker 7: Tom Moore, he was easy into his nineties and he
- 11:34Speaker 7: just nug it up. But like there's certain classes of it.
- 11:38Speaker 7: And I saw Mike Sando from the Athletic putting exactly
- 11:41Speaker 7: what you put out to, you know type in response
- 11:45Speaker 7: to JJ Watts's message last night, and mentioned how some
- 11:48Speaker 7: voters could have been looking for it for their advocates
- 11:51Speaker 7: for specific senior players. They get the fifty voters get
- 11:54Speaker 7: to pick three of the five. It was Belichick, Robert Kraft,
- 11:58Speaker 7: Robert Craig. I believe that's Anderson and Greenwood. I'm gonna
- 12:02Speaker 7: miss misremember his first name, So competing one through three spots,
- 12:05Speaker 7: and that's how you're able to roll through.
- 12:07Speaker 5: You need to get forty of those fifty votes.
- 12:11Speaker 7: The tough thing for me is if you're gonna paint
- 12:13Speaker 7: it behind spygate or if you're gonna paint it behind
- 12:15Speaker 7: the flake gate. Those are absolutely issues, no doubt about it.
- 12:20Speaker 7: I think, like the Beltran scenario that you pointed out,
- 12:23Speaker 7: they would be little specs of things that you can
- 12:27Speaker 7: pick on out pretty quickly.
- 12:28Speaker 5: Instead of full fledged mis.
- 12:32Speaker 7: Ingredient where you're putting this thing in, you gotta throw
- 12:34Speaker 7: the entire soup out. You see somebody who instead. There
- 12:39Speaker 7: have been so much and there has been so much
- 12:42Speaker 7: around his name that I would be fascinated to see
- 12:45Speaker 7: if any of that leaked in or if it's there's
- 12:48Speaker 7: a lot of guys that think Ken Anderson needs to
- 12:50Speaker 7: be in the Pro Football Hall of Fame. I might
- 12:52Speaker 7: not be one of them, right Like I might not
- 12:55Speaker 7: believe that those numbers that he needs to be in.
- 12:58Speaker 7: I think Robert or Roger Craig probably should have been
- 13:00Speaker 7: in a while ago. But like you look at some
- 13:03Speaker 7: of these the names on there, his still is the
- 13:07Speaker 7: number one on the ballot. Bar none agreed, and I'm
- 13:10Speaker 7: excited to hear if indeed we ever hear from a
- 13:13Speaker 7: couple of the explanation and then.
- 13:14Speaker 6: Yeah, and then but then again it's like okay, well
- 13:16Speaker 6: that guy's been waiting a long time, and like okay.
- 13:19Speaker 6: So there's mechanics to it, and it's a secret ballot
- 13:23Speaker 6: which the Baseball Writers, the Baseball Hall of Fame vote. Okay,
- 13:26Speaker 6: but you have to be ten years in the Baseball
- 13:28Speaker 6: Writers Association, ten consecutive years of membership in good standing
- 13:32Speaker 6: to get a ballot, and then you basically have it.
- 13:34Speaker 6: There's it used to be for life. Now it's kind
- 13:36Speaker 6: of not. They're kind of like pulling it after you've
- 13:38Speaker 6: been retired for a while because a lot of those
- 13:40Speaker 6: guys were the guys who didn't evolve. And no one's
- 13:42Speaker 6: first ballot because Babe Ruth wasn't first, you know, unanimous,
- 13:45Speaker 6: No One's nanamou.
- 13:46Speaker 5: Because Babe Ruth wasn't. How can I vote for this guy?
- 13:48Speaker 7: You know, I want to be doing it better than
- 13:49Speaker 7: the Heisman Trust, who has like nineteen hundred people.
- 13:52Speaker 8: And they want to those guys they want to withhold
- 13:54Speaker 8: the standards of the Hall.
- 13:55Speaker 3: By saying we canmous.
- 13:58Speaker 6: Because other guys were so a lot of guys went,
- 14:00Speaker 6: lot of guys, A lot of guys since the stereotor era,
- 14:02Speaker 6: will turn in like blank ballots. It's their own form
- 14:04Speaker 6: of protest. And that's you know, so that means no
- 14:08Speaker 6: one can be unanimous. But I don't know, Baseball writers,
- 14:10Speaker 6: it is what it is. I've always said that, you know,
- 14:13Speaker 6: we always we can't get if we had fifty people vote,
- 14:16Speaker 6: we'd have forty forty people tell us today is Wednesday,
- 14:18Speaker 6: and ten would say something else, and we'd say the
- 14:21Speaker 6: sky is blue, and ten people would say, no, it's
- 14:22Speaker 6: not real.
- 14:23Speaker 3: You'll never agree.
- 14:23Speaker 8: You can you show the same picture of two people
- 14:25Speaker 8: in those lay different things pictures.
- 14:27Speaker 6: When I when I was at COOPERSTOWNE and I had
- 14:29Speaker 6: to speak, I had to introduced Murray Chass from the
- 14:31Speaker 6: New York Times as the uh He was the Writer's
- 14:33Speaker 6: Wing inductee that year because I was president and Baseball Writers.
- 14:36Speaker 6: So I'm standing on the hill there and all the
- 14:38Speaker 6: baseball all my baseball card collection was seated behind me,
- 14:42Speaker 6: like all Hall of Famers are seated behind me, and
- 14:44Speaker 6: they're like, they're all like, keep it short, quick, kid,
- 14:47Speaker 6: keep it short.
- 14:47Speaker 5: It's hot out here, short out of here. Yeah.
- 14:49Speaker 6: But one of the things I said, I don't remember
- 14:51Speaker 6: much of my little thirty second pre amble given Murray
- 14:55Speaker 6: as his plaque, but I said, when you get a
- 14:58Speaker 6: passionate group like the Baseball writers, census can be elusive,
- 15:01Speaker 6: but when you reach it, it's very sweet, right, because
- 15:04Speaker 6: when you coalesce around it, like that was the year
- 15:06Speaker 6: that Molitor and Eckersley went in, and you know, neither
- 15:08Speaker 6: one of them was unanimous, but they were both, you know,
- 15:11Speaker 6: pretty obvious, and they both went in, and it is
- 15:15Speaker 6: hard to get consensus. And when you're dealing with guys
- 15:17Speaker 6: who have been through the ringer like, yeah, you're right, Billy.
- 15:20Speaker 6: There's guys who are probably passionate that Roger Craig should
- 15:23Speaker 6: have been in.
- 15:24Speaker 7: That they've been waiting and how impactful he was to
- 15:26Speaker 7: those forty nine er teams, what.
- 15:28Speaker 5: He gives them. Why isn't he in like already?
- 15:30Speaker 6: And so everybody has their own kind of paradigms and
- 15:34Speaker 6: stuff like that. But it was fascinating for me to
- 15:35Speaker 6: watch it because I sit here and take the abuse
- 15:38Speaker 6: of these writers think they're so you know, they think
- 15:41Speaker 6: they're so smarter than everybody, and they don't what are
- 15:43Speaker 6: they doing in their ivory tower. They don't deserve to
- 15:45Speaker 6: have this. Why do they get to the thumbs down reaction? Yeah,
- 15:48Speaker 6: it's part of the gig. And I've had people say
- 15:50Speaker 6: that and then they find out that I have a vote,
- 15:52Speaker 6: and then they're like, oh really, and then they're okay, like, well,
- 15:55Speaker 6: who'd you vote? And then it's like and then it's
- 15:58Speaker 6: either how did you vote for their's those steroid cheaters
- 16:01Speaker 6: or how did you did you.
- 16:02Speaker 5: Not vote for bonds and clements?
- 16:04Speaker 7: But when you're talking about legacy, and this is the
- 16:06Speaker 7: ultimate legacy, if indeed you're going to make something that
- 16:11Speaker 7: is this out of out of bounds might be the
- 16:14Speaker 7: wrong way of putting it, but this is such an outlier,
- 16:17Speaker 7: I think this deserves an explanation, Like if you're gonna
- 16:20Speaker 7: continue rolling through here, I think you deserve it to
- 16:23Speaker 7: football fans to say, hey.
- 16:26Speaker 5: This is what it was and you don't. I don't
- 16:28Speaker 5: have to agree with it.
- 16:29Speaker 7: I probably won't, but that to me is if cause again,
- 16:33Speaker 7: this isn't prom king at Greenfield High School two thousand
- 16:37Speaker 7: and one. That might matter if you want to throw
- 16:39Speaker 7: it on your Twitter bio.
- 16:40Speaker 3: What are you trying to say here?
- 16:41Speaker 7: But this, this stuff matters due like this, this matters
- 16:46Speaker 7: in the grand scheme of the league, in the sport
- 16:49Speaker 7: in legacy. It matters to and I know people don't
- 16:53Speaker 7: like them, so this might not matter to anybody else,
- 16:56Speaker 7: freaking matters to Bill Belichick, who might be the greatest
- 16:59Speaker 7: historian of the game that we've seen over the last decade,
- 17:04Speaker 7: three decades.
- 17:04Speaker 3: And it's something you can change, you can. Now.
- 17:10Speaker 6: Here's the thing, though, Let's Bill Belichick goes in next
- 17:13Speaker 6: year and gets his flowers and stuff. He's still a
- 17:15Speaker 6: Hall of Famer and he's still in unless he declines
- 17:20Speaker 6: and says, we think there's a difference. But once you
- 17:23Speaker 6: go in, Ted Simmons had to wait forever. Ted Simmons
- 17:26Speaker 6: was one of the most egregious Hall of Fame drop offs.
- 17:28Speaker 6: He one year on the ballot and he's out, and
- 17:31Speaker 6: his numbers are right there with Carlton Fisk and Johnny
- 17:33Speaker 6: Bench and all the other catchers who went in of
- 17:35Speaker 6: his era that he played with and against. And it
- 17:38Speaker 6: was I didn't have a vote then but I just
- 17:40Speaker 6: look at it, go, are you kidding me? And then
- 17:42Speaker 6: the Veterans Committee righted that wrong. Jerry Kramer. For years
- 17:45Speaker 6: people thought he was already in because he was so
- 17:46Speaker 6: good in part of those packers seams. Then he finally
- 17:48Speaker 6: went in. Once you're in, Yeah, once you're in, you're in,
- 17:53Speaker 6: and like that just kind of falls away. Now like
- 17:55Speaker 6: the guy I might agree with, the guy might hold it,
- 17:58Speaker 6: but in public estimation, I think it's like, oh, yeah,
- 18:00Speaker 6: he's a Hall of Famer. Like I don't think it.
- 18:02Speaker 6: I don't think there is initially whether your first ballot
- 18:05Speaker 6: or not, right, and that is like it's it's a
- 18:07Speaker 6: class within the class.
- 18:08Speaker 5: Your Hall of famers are one thing, and then there's.
- 18:10Speaker 6: First ballot, was the first ballot.
- 18:13Speaker 3: It's like a special level of VIP.
- 18:15Speaker 6: It kind of is, yeah, And so that's just the
- 18:18Speaker 6: distinction within the distinction. Belichick, by all, every measure should
- 18:22Speaker 6: be Like there were people a couple of years ago
- 18:24Speaker 6: saying they should rename the Lombardi Trophy right and take
- 18:27Speaker 6: Vince's name off of it and put Belichick's name on it,
- 18:29Speaker 6: which is absurd, but I.
- 18:31Speaker 3: Agree with that.
- 18:31Speaker 6: Again, that's just that's the soup that we're in. So
- 18:35Speaker 6: it's fascinating on a number of levels. But if Belichick
- 18:38Speaker 6: wants to make a statement, he can just like be
- 18:39Speaker 6: like t o or whatever and just refuse to.
- 18:41Speaker 7: Go Yeah, I just can't see it, Like he he
- 18:44Speaker 7: cares too much about the sport.
- 18:45Speaker 6: Here's the thing, here's here's the other thing, and here's
- 18:47Speaker 6: your conspiracy theory. I don't usually smoke the grass from
- 18:49Speaker 6: the knoll, but Robert Kraft is up to now if
- 18:53Speaker 6: he gets in and doesn't and they're like, well, we
- 18:56Speaker 6: just don't want to make this Patriots Polosi right, and
- 18:59Speaker 6: like well or Craft put his thumb on the scale
- 19:02Speaker 6: with some of the voters said that was your Yeah,
- 19:06Speaker 6: I don't want to, you know, I'm just saying, you know,
- 19:08Speaker 6: Bill had again.
- 19:10Speaker 7: That would be that would be a deranged one, but
- 19:13Speaker 7: it would deranged. But to me, I actually think that
- 19:16Speaker 7: one's more likely than it being that they don't like
- 19:18Speaker 7: his twenty seven year old girlfriend. Right.
- 19:21Speaker 8: Like the.
- 19:22Speaker 7: Fact that Robert Kraft actually went and tried to back
- 19:25Speaker 7: channel to not allow the guy to get hired by
- 19:27Speaker 7: the Falcons, which was very very well reported a couple
- 19:31Speaker 7: of years ago when he was up for the gig.
- 19:33Speaker 6: If Robert Craft goes in, is there a two for
- 19:35Speaker 6: one special at the Orchards of Asia day spot.
- 19:37Speaker 8: He talk about me, I guess we know what's worse
- 19:41Speaker 8: now on football circles.
- 19:42Speaker 5: I guess.
- 19:44Speaker 6: There's a lot of layers to this and we could
- 19:46Speaker 6: get out and it isn't is it?
- 19:49Speaker 5: Is it?
- 19:50Speaker 6: It's probably not that important, but now we're going to
- 19:52Speaker 6: relitigate spygate and deflate Gate. By the way, I'm a
- 19:55Speaker 6: bad host because we do a local show and been
- 19:58Speaker 6: doing a local show for a.
- 19:59Speaker 5: Long time anymore stuff.
- 20:00Speaker 6: When that stuff was percolating, I didn't burn a lot
- 20:03Speaker 6: of calories talking about Spygate or deflate Gate because it's like,
- 20:06Speaker 6: we'll just watch it from afar, Like, how does it
- 20:08Speaker 6: affect us?
- 20:08Speaker 5: Who cares?
- 20:09Speaker 6: It's something that a lot of guys screamed national guys
- 20:11Speaker 6: and like a lot of guys screamed at each other
- 20:13Speaker 6: about it. I personally, I thought Spygate was worse and
- 20:17Speaker 6: was almost deflate Gate, and the enforcement of it was
- 20:19Speaker 6: like a makeup call because we let spy Gate was
- 20:21Speaker 6: pretty bad and deflake Gate was like, oh, it's not
- 20:24Speaker 6: that bad, but let's throw the hammer of justice on
- 20:26Speaker 6: them for to make up for the what we didn't
- 20:29Speaker 6: do last time.
- 20:30Speaker 7: If you were if you were all in on the
- 20:32Speaker 7: Connor Stallions Michigan thing, then you were very very anti spygating,
- 20:36Speaker 7: right because I think Spygate walchs so the Michigan football
- 20:39Speaker 7: team could run in their signals and game planning and
- 20:44Speaker 7: spotlighting to it.
- 20:46Speaker 5: The Astros thing too, there were a lot of teams
- 20:48Speaker 5: doing it.
- 20:48Speaker 7: There were a lot of teams cheating once it got taught, like.
- 20:52Speaker 6: The Yankees had a guy with the Apple Watch getting
- 20:54Speaker 6: signs in from the Flate game.
- 20:56Speaker 7: One just won't leave because there's phenomenal memes of it,
- 21:00Speaker 7: like the amount that you still see to this day
- 21:04Speaker 7: are are rather impressive, and it just became synonymous that
- 21:07Speaker 7: one more almost with Brady than Belichick out. I'll be
- 21:11Speaker 7: interested to see if Brady gets tainted when when he
- 21:13Speaker 7: comes up in a couple of years, because remember the
- 21:15Speaker 7: normal Hall of Famers, modern era ones still have to
- 21:18Speaker 7: wait five years. That's the Senior Committee for Coaches is
- 21:20Speaker 7: the ones that change to do that, and they changed
- 21:23Speaker 7: it just a couple of years ago.
- 21:25Speaker 5: Within the last year.
- 21:26Speaker 7: Mike Sandol, like I said he was, he was kind
- 21:28Speaker 7: of going out on a brigade last night to try to.
- 21:31Speaker 5: Not even necessarily defend.
- 21:33Speaker 7: But he's just like, hey, I think this might be
- 21:36Speaker 7: what happened as a Hall of Fame voter. He said
- 21:38Speaker 7: it changed I think in twenty twenty five, and Billy
- 21:43Speaker 7: he at least offered an explanation the one you were
- 21:45Speaker 7: looking for. Yeah, and your point, I don't know.
- 21:47Speaker 6: Somebody who had a vote other than the guy from
- 21:50Speaker 6: OutKick who presented Belichick's case mity.
- 21:53Speaker 7: Yeah.
- 21:53Speaker 6: Other than that, I don't know anybody who had vote.
- 21:55Speaker 6: And that's to who you're mad at. And that's the
- 21:57Speaker 6: thing is, though, when there's no transparency, people don't know
- 21:59Speaker 6: who to be mad at.
- 21:59Speaker 5: So mad at everybody?
- 22:00Speaker 8: Well, sure, but that's tech nider kids. A question to you,
- 22:03Speaker 8: do you make your public ballot public?
- 22:04Speaker 3: I know you do.
- 22:05Speaker 8: For baseball writers, you always do that because it's kind
- 22:07Speaker 8: of fun to talk about for some people. But there
- 22:10Speaker 8: were going to breaks here. But there's a lot more
- 22:12Speaker 8: angles on this I think we have to get to,
- 22:14Speaker 8: and that question is one of them, like how much
- 22:16Speaker 8: do you believe in public ballots? Private ballots? Should there
- 22:18Speaker 8: be an explanation? I think one I normally don't think so,
- 22:21Speaker 8: but I would agree with you, Billy. We're at something
- 22:23Speaker 8: unique like this, someone has to at least give some
- 22:26Speaker 8: sort of explanation. But there's also a function in private
- 22:29Speaker 8: balloting and secret balloting and the protection of that vote
- 22:32Speaker 8: every year, and I think there's an aspect of that too,
- 22:34Speaker 8: as we do this in twenty twenty five and not
- 22:37Speaker 8: in nineteen seventy five or eighty five, as the immedia
- 22:40Speaker 8: landscape has changed, how we communicate has changed.
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- 24:35Speaker 7: Say, Now this is a good hot take hump day one,
- 24:38Speaker 7: and I know we're gonna fire these up a.
- 24:39Speaker 5: Little bit later on. But I think there's there's something too.
- 24:43Speaker 5: Would Paul Chris.
- 24:44Speaker 7: Be on like the all Bill Belichick team, where people think, like,
- 24:47Speaker 7: listen to this guy's press conferences, this guy.
- 24:49Speaker 5: Does, this guy stinks. How can you how can he
- 24:52Speaker 5: motivate anybody? Listen to him? All I saw it's a
- 24:54Speaker 5: great day to play, It's a great opportunity to go
- 24:56Speaker 5: out there and play. And then behind closed doors he's.
- 24:59Speaker 7: Oh Drick in an absolute scene and he is the
- 25:03Speaker 7: ringleader and the guy that everyone wants to be around.
- 25:05Speaker 7: That did kind of seem a little bit more like
- 25:07Speaker 7: Bill that once you've got him behind closed doors, maybe
- 25:09Speaker 7: there were more Moss moments as people to the party.
- 25:14Speaker 6: Who've broken bread with him in a big table at
- 25:16Speaker 6: Saint almost during the combines have said he's just the best,
- 25:19Speaker 6: best stories, just the loosest, greatest dude ever.
- 25:23Speaker 5: Except for what he's standing in front of the post.
- 25:25Speaker 8: Different, different than the image he presented at the podium
- 25:27Speaker 8: of all those years that most people thought, you know,
- 25:29Speaker 8: the on the Cincinnati, the image that he chose to present.
- 25:32Speaker 8: I mean, that's a conscious decision and that's fine. He
- 25:34Speaker 8: wanted to be like that. But uh yeah, I mean
- 25:38Speaker 8: I've heard that as well. You know, a totally different
- 25:40Speaker 8: personality and a funny guy and uh but not enough,
- 25:42Speaker 8: I guess to please your fellow brethren and to make
- 25:45Speaker 8: it into the all of him in the first ballot.
- 25:47Speaker 7: But it's incredible when you think of what that what
- 25:51Speaker 7: that Brown staff was and who was on that Obviously
- 25:54Speaker 7: Saban and uh and Belichick will be the top ones
- 25:57Speaker 7: that you think about. But much like you know, Matt
- 26:00Speaker 7: the floor of the Washington Tree, when it's Shanahan and McVay,
- 26:03Speaker 7: you think of, all of a sudden, here's Kirk Ferrence
- 26:05Speaker 7: Kirk ference coaching the offensive line all time winning is
- 26:08Speaker 7: the big ten coach in history. Like funny how that
- 26:11Speaker 7: could all of a sudden just jump and sway in
- 26:13Speaker 7: And then oh that makes the that makes the soup
- 26:15Speaker 7: a little bit different.
- 26:16Speaker 5: There in that Cleveland staff man all timer.
- 26:18Speaker 3: Eric Mangini was on that staff, MIKEA.
- 26:20Speaker 8: Lombardi who just you know, and then Ozzie Knwsom was
- 26:23Speaker 8: director of pro personnel in from the office that was
- 26:26Speaker 8: the front office. And yeah, it's just an incredible And
- 26:29Speaker 8: there are other guys too that were like grunts. I
- 26:31Speaker 8: think that became very I'm trying blanking now, but there
- 26:33Speaker 8: was an incredible number of guys.
- 26:35Speaker 5: I don't know.
- 26:36Speaker 3: I think it's it's wild. How much does group think
- 26:39Speaker 3: involved in this? Guys?
- 26:40Speaker 6: I mean, well, it's it's there's some of them writers
- 26:44Speaker 6: get together and and this this cabal. Now you're you're
- 26:49Speaker 6: for for me? In my experience the baseball fame. You
- 26:51Speaker 6: might talk about it like at a World Series or
- 26:54Speaker 6: a winter meetings or something, or you know, it might
- 26:57Speaker 6: come up over a beer, you might, but very little
- 27:01Speaker 6: bandwidth is spent in a group talking about guys cases.
- 27:06Speaker 5: Would you talk to you sit and wrestle it with
- 27:08Speaker 5: your ballot.
- 27:08Speaker 6: Now here's the other thing again, when it comes to
- 27:11Speaker 6: when there's only fifty guys and some guys are protesting
- 27:13Speaker 6: spygat or to flakate. Other guys are protesting that they're
- 27:16Speaker 6: pissed that they change the rule sure to one year.
- 27:18Speaker 6: Yeah right, and it's like that might be all right,
- 27:21Speaker 6: I'm not going to take it. And yeah, it's like
- 27:24Speaker 6: I'm not going to vote for somebody in their first year,
- 27:26Speaker 6: it's unfair to the guys who had to wait five years.
- 27:28Speaker 7: I guess I would understand that one more than any
- 27:32Speaker 7: merit because because if it's something merit based with Belichick
- 27:36Speaker 7: that I don't understand like that that I simply don't know,
- 27:39Speaker 7: I will understand. That to me would be more of, Hey,
- 27:42Speaker 7: look at what we're doing, how we've done business for
- 27:45Speaker 7: the last whatever how long is the Pro Football Hall
- 27:46Speaker 7: of Fame been around seventy something years? This is how
- 27:49Speaker 7: we do business, this is how we operate. We're not
- 27:51Speaker 7: going to change just for one individual who's coming up.
- 27:54Speaker 5: And there might be other guys who I don't know.
- 27:56Speaker 6: I don't know the mechanics and I don't know like
- 27:58Speaker 6: how many they could vote for or whatever.
- 28:00Speaker 7: They could vote for three of the five guys that
- 28:02Speaker 7: were okay, you could vote for three of the five
- 28:03Speaker 7: and they had to have forty of how to get
- 28:05Speaker 7: forty of the fifty votes other than the guy with
- 28:07Speaker 7: the most votes gets in.
- 28:08Speaker 5: Everybody else needs forty.
- 28:10Speaker 7: Everybody else needs forty medical yep, So only one could
- 28:13Speaker 7: get in if you if them got fifty yep.
- 28:15Speaker 6: The thinking is Belichick's a Hall of famer if and
- 28:19Speaker 6: I'm not, I'm putting myself in the mindset of like,
- 28:21Speaker 6: he's gonna get in obviously, but these other guys, yeah,
- 28:24Speaker 6: the Greenwood, Anderson and Craig, this is their last shot.
- 28:28Speaker 3: So they we have to get them in.
- 28:29Speaker 6: I'm not putting in a coach or a contributor over
- 28:32Speaker 6: a player who deserves it, because that player this is
- 28:33Speaker 6: his last chance and if he doesn't get in, now
- 28:36Speaker 6: he ain't getting in.
- 28:37Speaker 5: Belichick's obviously getting in. So it's like, Okay, I'm gonna
- 28:40Speaker 5: vote for it.
- 28:40Speaker 8: But the billion's points. If you make that move voting it,
- 28:43Speaker 8: you know you're gonna get reaction. You have to be
- 28:45Speaker 8: ready to explain that, like there's.
- 28:46Speaker 5: An excell thing.
- 28:47Speaker 3: I suppose there's a logic to that.
- 28:49Speaker 8: Okay, this is the way the rules set out, and
- 28:51Speaker 8: now I had to make sure and this and that
- 28:53Speaker 8: that's why I voted. But then you have to know
- 28:56Speaker 8: that there's gonna warrant some questions when you make a move.
- 28:59Speaker 3: Like that to not vote into Bill Belichick.
- 29:01Speaker 6: And that's about transparency and like the secret ballot, the
- 29:05Speaker 6: voters and now the electors and now people are gonna
- 29:07Speaker 6: look at that, and there will be some heat.
- 29:09Speaker 7: In that regard, and that to me is again I
- 29:11Speaker 7: don't have to agree with it. I probably won't right
- 29:13Speaker 7: Like again, if you're going to vote, because this is
- 29:15Speaker 7: again the well, I can do this, and I can
- 29:17Speaker 7: do that, and this guy's gonna go here and this
- 29:19Speaker 7: guy's gonna go there. And but but what you're asked
- 29:22Speaker 7: to do in the here and now is, out of
- 29:25Speaker 7: these five guys, which three are Hall of Famers, and
- 29:28Speaker 7: and if I struggle to know who would be on
- 29:31Speaker 7: a list when Bill Belichick and then.
- 29:33Speaker 6: That would not be a senior committee though, And it's
- 29:35Speaker 6: charged with righting wrongs. And the wrong was that Roger
- 29:38Speaker 6: Craig and Ken Anderson that they weren't in right, And
- 29:41Speaker 6: so it's like, okay, that's our job is oversight.
- 29:44Speaker 7: We think k Anderson not being in is an oversight
- 29:46Speaker 7: and that's a big issue.
- 29:47Speaker 6: I mean, that would be, that would be the question,
- 29:51Speaker 6: you're not in the room when a guy makes the case.
- 29:54Speaker 5: If the guy makes a good.
- 29:55Speaker 7: Case, the one the one case for Kenn Anderson would
- 29:58Speaker 7: be look at the freaking face, man, this guy.
- 30:00Speaker 5: Rock like that would be that would be the one case.
- 30:03Speaker 3: The face mask is number one before they.
- 30:07Speaker 7: Yeah, I had a question. I think you know, I mean,
- 30:12Speaker 7: Joe Fla, Sure, there's a lot.
- 30:13Speaker 8: Of guys that have had one good year. That's why
- 30:15Speaker 8: I would agree with you. I don't think it can
- 30:17Speaker 8: just be one MVP. I think it's a body of work.
- 30:20Speaker 8: I still believe that if I still believe that. The
- 30:23Speaker 8: biggest difference now in the way I'll put it this way,
- 30:28Speaker 8: the way the votes might have been public or private.
- 30:31Speaker 8: The one thing is voters knew, okay, even if I
- 30:33Speaker 8: got published in the paper Drew forty years ago, that
- 30:36Speaker 8: they weren't really going to have to get a backlash
- 30:38Speaker 8: from the public.
- 30:38Speaker 3: They weren't really going to have to do it. But now,
- 30:40Speaker 3: with social media.
- 30:42Speaker 8: You can get mf up and down the line now
- 30:45Speaker 8: and it will break most humans at some point. And
- 30:48Speaker 8: there are some guys that just want to duck the
- 30:50Speaker 8: smoke and don't want to deal with it, and eventually
- 30:53Speaker 8: they cannot get docks enough, they can't get troll enough
- 30:56Speaker 8: on the Internet to be influencing their vote. And I
- 30:59Speaker 8: think that's why more and more guys are going in
- 31:01Speaker 8: unanimous in the Baseball Hall of fam than ever before.
- 31:04Speaker 3: And I think that there's an aspect of this too.
- 31:06Speaker 8: I think if these guys had their votes public and
- 31:09Speaker 8: they were getting, you know, people going after them on
- 31:13Speaker 8: social media for days on end, most would throw their
- 31:15Speaker 8: hands up in there and say, fine, I'll vote Rebelichick.
- 31:17Speaker 8: I just don't want to deal with this anymore. Like,
- 31:20Speaker 8: is there is there an how much of an aspect
- 31:21Speaker 8: you think that is? I I think it might. People
- 31:24Speaker 8: might think of it like, no, people are gonna vote
- 31:26Speaker 8: the way they feel. They're not gonna care about.
- 31:27Speaker 3: People on the internet. But I think it wears people
- 31:29Speaker 3: down eventually.
- 31:30Speaker 5: Again, really do who are the voters? That's the things
- 31:33Speaker 5: Bill Pollian care what you think about votes.
- 31:35Speaker 8: For people think of people, think of writers, people think
- 31:38Speaker 8: of all right, this must have been mena Kins and
- 31:41Speaker 8: then we're gonna.
- 31:41Speaker 3: Tweet the hell out of them.
- 31:43Speaker 5: Well, actually feel bad.
- 31:44Speaker 7: A decent amount of them are are guys that you
- 31:46Speaker 7: wouldn't even think of, Like Jared Bell has been covering
- 31:48Speaker 7: the NFL for thirty some years. Mike Freeman, formerly the AP,
- 31:51Speaker 7: is one of the voters. He's been covering the NFL
- 31:53Speaker 7: for thirty five years. It's not easy in new age
- 31:55Speaker 7: guys like Ben Solec, who's got a podcast in a microphone.
- 31:58Speaker 7: Let's go to the statement that Bill Pollyon made to
- 32:02Speaker 7: ESPN on Tuesday night, where he denied that he told
- 32:05Speaker 7: fellow voters that they should serve the one year pentance
- 32:08Speaker 7: because he heard from fellow voters to, you know.
- 32:10Speaker 5: Float that idea.
- 32:11Speaker 7: But he insisted that he didn't agree or disagree with
- 32:14Speaker 7: that proposal.
- 32:15Speaker 6: So I.
- 32:17Speaker 7: I heard somebody else say it, I can't say I
- 32:20Speaker 7: don't agree with it. But as they continue on the
- 32:23Speaker 7: ESPN statement from Poleon saying Craft had no knowledge of
- 32:26Speaker 7: the spygaid scheme, Pollon added that he could not remember
- 32:29Speaker 7: with one hundred percent certainty if he voted for Belichick,
- 32:32Speaker 7: saying ninety five percent sure he voted for the player
- 32:36Speaker 7: and a coach, most likely Elsie Greenwood. But I was
- 32:39Speaker 7: I was just shocked. I find not the billion kidd,
- 32:41Speaker 7: and he deserves to be in the Hall of Fame.
- 32:43Speaker 7: Peter King also said, holy bleate, I'm very very surprised.
- 32:46Speaker 7: A lot of things happen in that room that are unexpected,
- 32:48Speaker 7: and of course this is a big surprise to me.
- 32:51Speaker 8: How can you not remember who you were? I don't
- 32:53Speaker 8: believe that at all. I believe that zero percent from
- 32:56Speaker 8: Bill Pullian that he does not remember.
- 32:58Speaker 6: I will say that when you wrestle with the ballot
- 33:00Speaker 6: for a long time, as you do the Baseball writers,
- 33:03Speaker 6: the Hall of Fame ballot, you get it early December
- 33:05Speaker 6: has to be postmark before New Year, right, so it's
- 33:08Speaker 6: a holiday thing you spend. I got some free time.
- 33:11Speaker 6: I'm gonna look at this ballot and look come some
- 33:12Speaker 6: stats trying to.
- 33:13Speaker 5: Get the vacation.
- 33:14Speaker 6: But you go back and forth, back and forth, and
- 33:16Speaker 6: you I've shown you pictures that you guys have seen
- 33:19Speaker 6: your ballot. It's like it's a piece of paper with
- 33:21Speaker 6: a box next to the guy's name. It's like, right,
- 33:23Speaker 6: people think it's like the sea scrolls or something. It's
- 33:26Speaker 6: like this sacred thing. It's like it's like you're voting
- 33:28Speaker 6: for prom king at Greenfield.
- 33:29Speaker 5: Yeah see, but this one's different.
- 33:31Speaker 7: Like if they actually are still in the old school,
- 33:33Speaker 7: fifty person in a room, do they.
- 33:35Speaker 5: Do like heads up, seven up? I think they might.
- 33:37Speaker 5: But here here's the thing.
- 33:38Speaker 6: When you get your ballot, though, you wrestle with it,
- 33:40Speaker 6: and you wrestle with it, and you go through different
- 33:42Speaker 6: things and you check the boxes. Every year before I
- 33:44Speaker 6: send it out, I take a picture of my ballot
- 33:46Speaker 6: so that I remember that.
- 33:49Speaker 5: For the record.
- 33:50Speaker 8: Yeah, But voting or not voting and forgetting about, like
- 33:53Speaker 8: did I vote for Scott Rowland is different than Belichick.
- 33:55Speaker 8: That's a decision you poured over, you thought about, and
- 33:57Speaker 8: you absolutely do it for a reason or not like
- 34:01Speaker 8: because well, to me, I never expected this. I thought
- 34:04Speaker 8: that's a check it and forget it Bill Belichick.
- 34:06Speaker 6: I honestly didn't know until yesterday that Bill Belichick was eligible.
- 34:10Speaker 8: M M.
- 34:11Speaker 5: Yeah, I didn't know that he was not going to
- 34:13Speaker 5: be on the clock.
- 34:14Speaker 3: Possible guys forgot and didn't.
- 34:16Speaker 7: Vote for There's.
- 34:22Speaker 6: A good question though the Baseball Hall of Fame bellot,
- 34:24Speaker 6: you might have fifteen twenty names, right, you can vote
- 34:27Speaker 6: for ten or it might be even more than that.
- 34:28Speaker 6: But it's like i'd forget, yeah, but you can know.
- 34:31Speaker 6: But again, like it's like I've been voting for this
- 34:33Speaker 6: guy every year. I'm not not going to vote for
- 34:36Speaker 6: this guy.
- 34:36Speaker 7: The other interesting one from Peter King that that he
- 34:39Speaker 7: added in here on the story that was put together
- 34:42Speaker 7: late last night on ESPN by Don Van not a
- 34:45Speaker 7: Junior and Seth Wickersham. Because you know they're Patriots guys
- 34:48Speaker 7: and they were the ones that first found out about it.
- 34:50Speaker 7: The eight other semi finalists in the coaches category this year,
- 34:54Speaker 7: Tom Coughlin, Mike Holmgren, Chuck Knox, Buddy Parker, Dan Reeves,
- 34:58Speaker 7: Marty Schottenheimer, George Seffert, and Mike Shanahan. He also adds
- 35:02Speaker 7: in that with Belichick falling short this year means that
- 35:06Speaker 7: three other coaching head coaching favorites will likely have to
- 35:09Speaker 7: wait at least another year, that being Mike Shanahan and
- 35:14Speaker 7: Tom Claughlin in last year's coaching finalists who fell short
- 35:17Speaker 7: again in Mike Holmgren. So this will once again move
- 35:20Speaker 7: Mike Holmgren back, A King said, it pushes all these
- 35:23Speaker 7: coaches back at least a year. You have to ask yourself,
- 35:26Speaker 7: what does the Coaches Committee do next year? Are they
- 35:28Speaker 7: going to again advance Belichick? Wouldn't be so wouldn't it
- 35:32Speaker 7: be surprising if they don't. The decision has major impact
- 35:36Speaker 7: beyond just one year. So now that he's not now
- 35:38Speaker 7: that he's not a first ballot Hall of Famer, Drew,
- 35:41Speaker 7: this is where I'd more agree with you now, Like
- 35:44Speaker 7: now it doesn't matter now if he gets now, if
- 35:47Speaker 7: he gets in next year or the year after that
- 35:50Speaker 7: one doesn't matter. But when you're the first ballot, your
- 35:52Speaker 7: first time on, that's the little pin that you put
- 35:55Speaker 7: on the lapel like Dion and the rest of the
- 35:57Speaker 7: first ballot guys.
- 35:58Speaker 5: We're talking about last year where.
- 35:59Speaker 7: They said, what what if we made a penthouse of
- 36:02Speaker 7: the Pro Football Hall of Fame for all the guys
- 36:04Speaker 7: that are the.
- 36:05Speaker 5: Real good, the real hall of Fame of the Hall.
- 36:07Speaker 7: Of famers, Because he's saying doesn't matter, but it kind
- 36:11Speaker 7: of matters to all those guys in there. Once they're
- 36:14Speaker 7: in that room and they're at the ray Nichki luncheon, right,
- 36:17Speaker 7: I think that's what it is, where where it's all
- 36:18Speaker 7: the gold jacket guys. Later they're sitting around saying, I
- 36:22Speaker 7: was still way better than that.
- 36:23Speaker 8: Exactly how many guys deep down sitting there look at
- 36:26Speaker 8: the other guys say yeah, but you don't belong in
- 36:27Speaker 8: the same room as.
- 36:28Speaker 5: Well, I know, way better than them.
- 36:30Speaker 8: Yeah, how many times Needles said that, Drew? You know,
- 36:32Speaker 8: Dan Needle's always said that there should be a Hall
- 36:34Speaker 8: of Fame for the real Hall of Fame because.
- 36:36Speaker 3: That that we're letting everybody in.
- 36:37Speaker 8: And he always is there are people that believe that.
- 36:41Speaker 6: He and I went, oh, he had fifteen rounds over
- 36:46Speaker 6: Craig Bigio.
- 36:47Speaker 3: I remember this.
- 36:48Speaker 5: I remember. I remember we had a show one day.
- 36:50Speaker 5: We're arguing about Craig Bigio and he's.
- 36:52Speaker 6: Just a compiler and who cares like I'm like, dude,
- 36:54Speaker 6: he was an All star like he played second base catcher,
- 36:57Speaker 6: he played a center field like, so I argue with
- 37:01Speaker 6: needles and then I walked around and the I don't
- 37:02Speaker 6: remember who the Bruers were playing, but I went and asked,
- 37:04Speaker 6: like ten guys Bruis third base coach Rich Donald, Hey,
- 37:08Speaker 6: Rich Bigio, and Bigio was still playing, and I'm like,
- 37:11Speaker 6: it's Bigio, Hall of Famer. He's like today, tomorrow, yesterday,
- 37:15Speaker 6: next week, last month.
- 37:16Speaker 5: And everybody was like, how can you even ask that?
- 37:19Speaker 6: And it was like ten out of ten and they
- 37:21Speaker 6: might have I think they might have been playing the Cardinals.
- 37:23Speaker 7: Can I tell you why he's not? Because his son
- 37:25Speaker 7: costs me way too much money in fantasy baseball.
- 37:28Speaker 5: It was always thinking.
- 37:30Speaker 6: All right, so hot take, hot take, a lot of
- 37:32Speaker 6: hot takes being spewed about this Belichick snub.
- 37:35Speaker 5: Again.
- 37:36Speaker 6: We'll move on, We'll get over it. He'll go in
- 37:38Speaker 6: and if Kraft goes in, it will get funny. Maybe
- 37:39Speaker 6: Craft didn't want to be at the same ceremony as Belichick.
- 37:42Speaker 7: That would be fun fun They got the wrong former,
- 37:46Speaker 7: wrong guy, They got the wrong executive as the one
- 37:49Speaker 7: that's letting everybody know, Hey, maybe he was the one
- 37:50Speaker 7: that floated it.
- 37:51Speaker 5: Maybe that was like Bill Bully and misremembered it, cover
- 37:53Speaker 5: it up for his boy.
- 37:54Speaker 3: I don't think that's a non zero chance. I believe
- 37:57Speaker 3: it is before Petty level Man, we got definitely, definitely,
- 38:02Speaker 3: we'll see.
- 38:03Speaker 6: We're giving away Luke Bryant tickets today in the seven
- 38:06Speaker 6: o'clock hour of the program. He is coming to Alpine
- 38:09Speaker 6: Valley September twenty sixth the Word on the Street Tour
- 38:12Speaker 6: Special guests.
- 38:14Speaker 5: Special guests will be joining him. Who the hell is it?
- 38:18Speaker 6: It is Drew Baldridge, Lauren Watkins and Ray Lynn. A
- 38:22Speaker 6: night of music at the end of the summer. Something
- 38:24Speaker 6: to look forward to all summer. We're looking forward to
- 38:27Speaker 6: John Greenberg joining us. Dolph will be here in about
- 38:29Speaker 6: an hour. It is the Huddle on Fox Sports Radio Wisconsin.
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- 38:45Speaker 7: I apologize for my verbal diary over here, but I
- 38:48Speaker 7: just got I just got a reaction to a text
- 38:50Speaker 7: that we got on the nicolay law dot com talking
- 38:52Speaker 7: text line.
- 38:53Speaker 5: Is this one?
- 38:53Speaker 3: I think I was eight seven seven closer here now.
- 38:58Speaker 7: A part of our job, Drew right, is to form
- 39:01Speaker 7: a connection with the listener.
- 39:03Speaker 5: Yeah, genuine, Oh my gosh. I always say the shows
- 39:07Speaker 5: about the listeners.
- 39:07Speaker 7: We're just here, We're just here now. Luckily, when you're
- 39:10Speaker 7: just here and you happen to be the MVP of
- 39:13Speaker 7: the We're just here squad, arm and Sarian, you you
- 39:16Speaker 7: form a different level of connection, one in which where
- 39:19Speaker 7: people feel so happy to be amongst your presence and
- 39:24Speaker 7: to make you smile that you get texts like Big
- 39:27Speaker 7: Vegas Pete hit us with here now.
- 39:28Speaker 5: This is this story is about three weeks long.
- 39:31Speaker 3: This is a long story. This is actually from a
- 39:33Speaker 3: different station long ago.
- 39:36Speaker 7: Yeah, during network ago where armand Sarian got dunked on
- 39:41Speaker 7: by Big Vegas Pete who I was hanging out in
- 39:44Speaker 7: Ohio of the broadcasting of Olympic Games.
- 39:47Speaker 3: It's one of my worst moments of not ball knowledge
- 39:50Speaker 3: ever right at it because I thought I had ball
- 39:53Speaker 3: knowledge of the networks that he tried.
- 39:54Speaker 7: To call out Pete, who called him out to say, hey,
- 39:58Speaker 7: I think you misremembered the the last uh, the last
- 40:02Speaker 7: Olympics covered on CBS.
- 40:04Speaker 3: Was in nine. I thought I was ninety four winter.
- 40:06Speaker 5: And it was actually in Japan and ninety eight.
- 40:10Speaker 3: I was wrong, and I was absolutely you know, I
- 40:13Speaker 3: took that like hard and true.
- 40:15Speaker 7: You know how Armon does it when he thinks he's
- 40:17Speaker 7: right and he knows that he's got to tell you
- 40:19Speaker 7: that you're wrong, double right back down, just lets you know, like,
- 40:22Speaker 7: did Pete ag Yeah? Maybe maybe I think I think
- 40:24Speaker 7: he might be wrong. I think he might be wrong.
- 40:26Speaker 7: He's like, well, I was actually there, bub but that's
- 40:28Speaker 7: he hit him with. And then Arman hit him with, Hey,
- 40:31Speaker 7: if you have any of your old CBS Olympic years.
- 40:33Speaker 8: Because he was working for the network, yeah, I'd love
- 40:35Speaker 8: to buy it from you.
- 40:37Speaker 7: Yeah, which actually means, hey, hey, big Vegas, Pete Hay Armon,
- 40:42Speaker 7: Oh my gosh, this is a what shirt jacket size?
- 40:45Speaker 2: Are you?
- 40:45Speaker 5: I found some of my old CBS.
- 40:51Speaker 7: Gonna Olympic stuff in my basement and I can send
- 40:53Speaker 7: it to you.
- 40:54Speaker 5: You just have to text me back. Are you kidding me?
- 40:58Speaker 3: This is awesome?
- 41:00Speaker 5: He wears a sh medium.
- 41:01Speaker 3: What if I now here's the tough thing.
- 41:04Speaker 8: What if I say my size and it's wrong and
- 41:06Speaker 8: he's like, oh never mind, won't bit you do?
- 41:08Speaker 5: I just not tell him. The three of us we
- 41:10Speaker 5: can figure anything will fit us, from anything to large anything.
- 41:15Speaker 7: Well, Drew, That's where I'm excited because as as Harmon
- 41:18Speaker 7: did the leg work here, you know, big Vegas, Pete
- 41:21Speaker 7: would would bigger cat.
- 41:24Speaker 5: That's double legs coming right back over here. And while
- 41:27Speaker 5: we're watching.
- 41:28Speaker 7: The Olympics, potentially at an establishment near you, let us
- 41:31Speaker 7: all know at eight seven if you're interested in that,
- 41:34Speaker 7: we're only two weeks away from the Olympic Games, and
- 41:37Speaker 7: I might be rocking that sweet CBS gear right in
- 41:39Speaker 7: Armand's face.
- 41:40Speaker 5: It was already on my radar.
- 41:42Speaker 6: Call our pal and Marquette uh fellow Marquettian Armand.
- 41:48Speaker 3: Absolute case Yeah, she works, Casey, she works.
- 41:51Speaker 6: She's in Boston, but she's done Olympics, so do she
- 41:54Speaker 6: does Olympics broadcasting and stuff.
- 41:56Speaker 5: She does a lot of tennis and stuff.
- 41:57Speaker 6: But I was going to ask her about the Olympic
- 42:00Speaker 6: and well, she does stuff from sight, like she does
- 42:04Speaker 6: stuff from.
- 42:05Speaker 5: She goes there, doesn't she A lot of times.
- 42:06Speaker 6: She has, but like lately, I think they just like
- 42:09Speaker 6: you do it from remotely with a sack drop.
- 42:12Speaker 5: Yeah, that makes sense.
- 42:14Speaker 6: But she's also in the epicenter of you know, Patriotville.
- 42:17Speaker 6: So she was on my list of people to call.
- 42:19Speaker 6: But this Belichick thing, now she's been there long enough time.
- 42:22Speaker 6: Oh yeah, we definitely got to reach out and yeah,
- 42:25Speaker 6: she's got an extra hour, so we'll get training on
- 42:27Speaker 6: at some point in the next day.
- 42:28Speaker 8: Well, the nice thing is we're gonna have live sports
- 42:30Speaker 8: during our shift sides like the Australian Open up.
- 42:33Speaker 5: What do you mean we have my favorite sport on
- 42:35Speaker 5: this we do.
- 42:36Speaker 3: I love it. But the one people might be talking
- 42:38Speaker 3: about the Olympics, you know, we'll have, yeah, a continued
- 42:41Speaker 3: stretch of live sports.
- 42:42Speaker 5: Did sleeveless guy win?
- 42:44Speaker 3: You're talking about the Australian Open.
- 42:46Speaker 7: Yeah, I walked in. One guy was rocking the short sleeves.
- 42:48Speaker 7: I'm proud of them.
- 42:49Speaker 8: And I don't remember who was wearing what I was
- 42:52Speaker 8: where wherever we had a guy withdraw didn't we Yeah,
- 42:55Speaker 8: there was a mutini right or something like that. Yeah,
- 42:59Speaker 8: but it's to be Carlos and center. But you know,
- 43:01Speaker 8: but that's what it is. No, it's just nice that
- 43:03Speaker 8: we're gonna have some live sports on you know. I
- 43:05Speaker 8: think that's an extended stretch of live sports.
- 43:08Speaker 7: And there's your tennis update on the Australian Open here
- 43:10Speaker 7: on the huddle. As we huddle up with you, now,
- 43:12Speaker 7: Arman will give you the the tennis sports. This one
- 43:15Speaker 7: on grass.
- 43:16Speaker 8: No, the Australian opens hardcourt, his grass only wimbleddn't really
- 43:21Speaker 8: and then the French clay's clay.
- 43:23Speaker 5: Yeah, and this one is hardcourt, got it?
- 43:26Speaker 3: Yeah?
- 43:26Speaker 5: All right, and you're trying to keep up right eight
- 43:29Speaker 5: seven seven Seve talking about it, act like I cared
- 43:32Speaker 5: on that one.
- 43:32Speaker 6: Though, the Belichick snub, which I love it that people
- 43:35Speaker 6: can get this indignant and then at a certain point
- 43:37Speaker 6: you argue about it for a day or two and
- 43:39Speaker 6: then you realize, does it really affect my life at all?
- 43:41Speaker 8: No?
- 43:42Speaker 5: And then Chick's not getting a gold jacket.
- 43:44Speaker 7: For a year because quickly we can flip to uh
- 43:47Speaker 7: bound from wsaw where you can flip or damn from
- 43:48Speaker 7: Wassaw where you can flip that frustration and anger go.
- 43:51Speaker 7: How is it that Green Bay has lost four coaches
- 43:53Speaker 7: so far but none of them are Rich Massacia?
- 43:56Speaker 5: Why have we fired him yet?
- 43:58Speaker 7: I bet this is Rich is convinced Goody to sign
- 44:01Speaker 7: those Raiders rejects. I think there's a lot more to
- 44:04Speaker 7: the Rich Pasacia conversation. But Drew, Uh, that was a
- 44:08Speaker 7: hot button subject for a long time on packers ot
- 44:12Speaker 7: and Uh, it's got It's one of my first hot takes.
- 44:15Speaker 5: And it's the one that Dan is.
- 44:17Speaker 7: Definitely not gonna like, and I think a lot of
- 44:18Speaker 7: other fans are not gonna like. It might not be
- 44:21Speaker 7: as hot anymore because the longer we go away, this
- 44:24Speaker 7: is no. This is on a simmer instead of you know,
- 44:27Speaker 7: on a six on the on the stove.
- 44:29Speaker 5: But it's it got to a boiling point. I think
- 44:31Speaker 5: that has passed.
- 44:32Speaker 6: I agree, all right, we're gonna fire up some hot
- 44:35Speaker 6: takes when we return.
- 44:36Speaker 5: Get them ready. Eight seven seven seven.
- 44:40Speaker 6: To the Nicola Law dot Com Talk and text and
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- 44:44Speaker 5: It's the Huddle. Fox Sports Radio, Wisconsin