Hybrid Grapes, Natural Wine Myths, and the Future of Wine | Doug Frost

The Restaurant Guys · Mar 31, 2026 · 54m · transcript

Why This Episode Matters

Doug Frost connects wine education, grape growing, climate pressure, and wine culture mythmaking in one conversation.

This episode makes a smart, practical case for hybrid grapes as part of wine’s future, not just a regional curiosity.

The discussion cuts through vague “natural wine” posturing and asks a better question: is the wine actually good?

Mark Pascal and Francis Schott keep the wine-geek material accessible without dumbing it down.

Doug’s work at Echo Lands brings the conversation from what’s in the glass to what has to happen in the vineyard.

The Banter

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