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- 0:00Good evening, and welcome to the Rooted Soul podcast. It's Alan MacDonald.
- 0:05TheRootedSoulBooks.com is the website. Alan at TheRootedSoulBooks.com is the email.
- 0:11And Alan MacDonald IRE is my Instagram handle.
- 0:14As always, we start with some housekeeping.
- 0:17There is a special offer on the first collection, which you can get through
- 0:20my website or directly on Amazon.
- 0:22UK and Ireland at the moment where the, well, on the EU.
- 0:26£5 for the paperback, euro equivalent. £1.77 e-book and the euro equivalent,
- 0:33and I really appreciate there's been an uptick in sales again which is wonderful
- 0:37and I want to try and get that first collection out there as much as possible
- 0:40as I said before as it's helped people,
- 0:42there's lots of content on the website I put stuff up on social media as well,
- 0:47and there's the live show Friday 26th of February 2027 the MYX hotel the exchange
- 0:52sessions Christchurch in Dublin with UK and US dates to follow afterwards will
- 0:58be an evening of songs and stories and poems and,
- 1:01some music afterwards with some musicians that I know, good Irish music session,
- 1:06never did anyone any harm.
- 1:08But on to the podcast this evening.
- 1:12I've been reflecting in a positive manner a lot lately in between life madness,
- 1:18around, you know, I've talked about the themes of people we lose from our life
- 1:22and in life who are still here.
- 1:25I've written a couple of poems recently. I've been thinking about the theme
- 1:28of making amends or saying things that need to be said.
- 1:34And I had a few poems in mind that I'll read, the latest one,
- 1:37King for All Days, I'll read towards the end of the podcast.
- 1:41But I had a recent reminder of someone I've known for a very long time where,
- 1:47we are in each other's lives on regular basis and.
- 1:52Something I should have said a long time ago in terms of a kind of an apology,
- 1:56or an explanation and didn't realize for a long time what happened then might
- 2:01have been very hurtful, whatever meaning for it to be.
- 2:05And I made the decision to have that conversation. But in addition,
- 2:09to be a little softer on that person, we often react, you know,
- 2:14to how people react to us in certain situations.
- 2:19And it's we can sometimes think when that person doesn't react the way we would
- 2:26or we think we would we only see it negatively or as a kind of a dig at us or a problem with us,
- 2:35and very often it's not the case at all,
- 2:37and you know with this person that i know for some reason i'd forgotten for
- 2:42a long time that they're very stoic and they don't show much emotion.
- 2:46They're a very kind person And I thought for a long time that,
- 2:49that everything was shut off to me.
- 2:53And in reality, all I needed to do was soften up a little on my side and open
- 2:58up a little on my side and reach in.
- 3:02And that's all it took. And it's not a negative or sad thing at all.
- 3:06It's, it's wonderful to, to realize again, that we all have that power at times,
- 3:11you know, and we can get a bit tired of, I get it, you know? So.
- 3:18I've been lucky enough in my life, as contradictory as it might seem,
- 3:23to have lost people in my family, for example,
- 3:26where I had the time and we had the time as a family to have the conversations
- 3:30that you want to have, to tell those people what they mean.
- 3:34Very often people are taken from our lives or just gone from being around us.
- 3:39And it's only then that you realize it's too late. People say,
- 3:42well, before it's too late, as if you're going to definitely have a chance to
- 3:46realize when it's well the clock is ticking you don't in most instances some
- 3:51people are gone in the flash and that's it,
- 3:53and I'm very much more direct these days but also you know I've kind of shuffled
- 3:59the deck in my life and the things that I've shuffled to the front are what's most important to me,
- 4:06you know the people who've I stood by and who stood by me you know good times and bad.
- 4:13And again, as I said before, people who are quite forgiving.
- 4:16And I'm going to read a few poems.
- 4:18Of course I want people who are forgiving. I fuck up so often, I need it. So...
- 4:24I'm gonna, this is one I wrote relatively recently, actually,
- 4:30and it's called Stoking Aces.
- 4:33With an ace up her sleeve, she had the cards to play, but she chose to give
- 4:37him reprieve, so both can win another day.
- 4:41So long at the table, others well gone, upping ante when able and not seeing both at one.
- 4:49Laying down their weapons for so long looking only at the arsenal.
- 4:53For a new dawn beckons, one where old battles are farcical.
- 4:57A lesson to step back. Remember who you were. Sentiment and not shellac. Prioritizing care.
- 5:05Learn this early and often, as it's sometimes too far gone. To be the one who
- 5:10softens, so the other can follow.
- 5:13With an ace up her sleeve, I'll help find the play. And if only one can achieve,
- 5:19I'm fine with it that way.
- 5:21No one is just two people realizing that.
- 5:27That I had a boss who said to me before a few years ago, you know,
- 5:33I had really debated and argued with somebody on a number of different issues, which were correct.
- 5:39And he said, yeah, you're right. And I heard about that. Yeah.
- 5:41And they were, how long ago was that? And I was like, I was about six or eight weeks ago.
- 5:45And he goes, that's wonderful. He goes, and it seemed like she was wrong on
- 5:48a lot of that. So he goes, yeah. He said, can I ask you a question? And I said, yeah.
- 5:52And he goes, can you remember any of those key points that you were arguing for nearly an hour?
- 5:57And I went to answer and he said, before you say anything, he said,
- 6:00you're like me, you end up fighting every battle.
- 6:03And he said, you need to step back, be a little softer and really think about, is this important to me?
- 6:12If it's not, you can let someone else take the control.
- 6:16Let them do it a different way. And you'll find that person,
- 6:19I think will be much more amenable to, to you going forward.
- 6:23And he was right. Like my father used to say, you can, an old Gaelic football
- 6:29term, I guess, you can let some, you don't have to catch every ball.
- 6:33You can let someone go over your head.
- 6:35And it's about picking your battles. But it's also about, you know,
- 6:39it doesn't have to be most of the time. These things don't have to be battles.
- 6:43It doesn't mean you let people treat you badly.
- 6:46And I was never, you know, I always like to think I'm never unkind or cruel,
- 6:49but I do often see things as a battle in my life or have done.
- 6:54And it is that fight or flight response.
- 6:56And now the writing has really helped this and wonderful people around me.
- 7:02I know what's important and who's important. And there were people who were
- 7:06always in and around my life who never walked away, never left.
- 7:09Not that many did. And some of them probably a good reason to.
- 7:12I focus on those people now and it makes life so much easier and so much more fun,
- 7:19but it is a difficult thing when the conversation i have had to have and will continue to have,
- 7:26is one that goes back a long time and you do think to yourself when such a long
- 7:31time passes is it stupid to to bring something up,
- 7:35but actually if you have something to say on it and it's positive or it's to
- 7:40say sorry or it's to say you know this must have come across the wrong way or,
- 7:45then i always think it's a it's fruiting to say it,
- 7:48and it's that thing in life where and it isn't these are friendships relationships
- 7:52it can be love romance whatever,
- 7:55i'm a real believer that positivity care and love that's put out there is never
- 8:00wasted so even if it's not reciprocated even if it's not accepted even if it's
- 8:04thrown back in your face you've done the right thing and in the terms of.
- 8:10This is a poem I don't think it's in any of the collections actually but it's
- 8:15a very short one and it's called Departures because I wrote it in an airport.
- 8:21See? See how clever I am with titles? No one stands over a casket wishing I love you was said less.
- 8:29Don't wait till the moment passes from chance to bygone regret.
- 8:33When you feel it, say it. Let them know even if they dismay.
- 8:38Don't join the ranks of the lovesick.
- 8:40Leave the casket with nothing to say.
- 8:43And that was someone I reached out to and said that to, you know,
- 8:46no one stands over a casket wishing they'd said less.
- 8:49And I'm a firm believer in that. And I move forward in that vein now.
- 8:54You know, I used to be the person I'm thinking of actually was just talking about a minute ago.
- 9:00If I felt there was any kind of step back, any kind of coldness,
- 9:04rather than reaching in and put my arms around that person and saying, are you okay?
- 9:08Like, do you want to talk? Is there, you know, do we need to talk? Or is there something?
- 9:12I would then get defensive. Well, if that person's been like that,
- 9:15I'll be like that. And it's such a waste of energy.
- 9:19And I've a few people in my life who have their own situations like this.
- 9:24And sometimes it's just about dropping your shoulders and stepping back.
- 9:30You know, I don't know why this person is being like this.
- 9:34It may be about me, it may not be about me, but the only way to find out is
- 9:37to have the conversation in a non-combative way.
- 9:41I spoke about a friend of mine early on in the podcast where he came to me when
- 9:47I met up with him and pulled me aside and said, look, I wasn't happy with the last time I saw you.
- 9:52X, Y, Z reasons. I'm not angry.
- 9:55I'm sure there was stuff going on, but I just wanted you to know it hurt me a little bit.
- 10:00And the way he put it across was so emotionally mature and intelligent that
- 10:04I couldn't get defensive about it.
- 10:06I just had to say, geez, that's not at all what was meant, but absolutely I'll
- 10:10sort that out. And that was it.
- 10:13It's not even ripping off a plaster because they can hurt sometimes especially with my hairy arms.
- 10:18Is just sometimes going, actually, do I need to say something?
- 10:23So do I need to tell someone they hurt me? Do I need to ask someone if I hurt them?
- 10:29And just do it. You know, it can be very cathartic.
- 10:35I'm going to read you another, actually I'll read another poem in a second.
- 10:38I was thinking about, you know, I think a lot about literature and,
- 10:41you know, I've dealt back into reading again, and books, and poetry, and,
- 10:46but in literature, there's a lot of these, like I said, we don't know when too
- 10:50late is too late, very often in life.
- 10:53That's where regret comes from.
- 10:55Very often, people don't regret while there's still a chance to fix it.
- 11:01You know, it's when that chance is gone, that's when the regret comes in.
- 11:07And the person I talked about earlier, I was told by someone 20 years ago actually
- 11:11i won't get into that i was told by somebody after it happened you know you'll
- 11:16regret it if you don't say something because you really didn't do the right thing there,
- 11:21and it was it's just very interesting to me you know i've always considered
- 11:25myself relatively open and i suppose we all do but yet they're those conversations
- 11:30that we don't have and i was thinking about king lear.
- 11:34And it's only when he he holds his daughter's lifeless body in his arms that,
- 11:39he realizes the mistakes he made and what he'd done and what he'd lost.
- 11:44Cain and Abel was the same where, you know, Abel, am I my brother's keeper?
- 11:49And again, it was only when he destroyed his brother that he realized all that
- 11:53envy, all of that competitiveness, all of that supposed hatred turned to ashes in his hands.
- 12:02And these are good things to keep in mind. It's not that You should always be,
- 12:07there are times when you, and I've done it recently where, you know,
- 12:11you've done your part, you've done what you can do, but most of us don't even do that.
- 12:17We let things fester. I've seen it with, with friends of mine where,
- 12:21of many different stripes,
- 12:23where I feel a breakdown in a relationship that they've had or a friendship,
- 12:28is fixable with a conversation, apologies on both sides and how do we move forward?
- 12:34And instead it's left. And you always know when people, you know,
- 12:38will talk angrily, but they will talk about that situation often,
- 12:41but as if they don't care, but you're still talking about it. So clearly you do.
- 12:47And don't do that guys as i say whatever is put out there that's positive is never wasted,
- 12:54and and the other person may have good reason to reject or not reciprocate but
- 12:58it's still not wasted and even if they've bad intentions and that's why they
- 13:02don't it's not wasted you're doing the right thing you know on your side and
- 13:07the second collection of mine,
- 13:09i mean the clues in the subtitle the rooted soul acceptance of joy when it comes
- 13:13out and you will see phases and parts and poems,
- 13:16and it's not about sadness and it's not about regret it's about acceptance and
- 13:20the reason the acceptance is there,
- 13:22is you either move on from a situation to understand that you know not everything
- 13:26is permanent or nothing is permanent.
- 13:29Or you try or you try you fail or you try and you succeed but it is an acceptance
- 13:35of all these things that happen in our lives and i suppose me making sense of
- 13:38things and you know because i'm an overthinker and an overanalyzer,
- 13:43of why I react sometimes the way I do.
- 13:46And I'm not perfect, or I'll probably react defensively to something and work
- 13:50this week, and that's okay.
- 13:53But it gets easier and it gets better, I think, when...
- 13:59You know, it goes from not actually realizing to realizing after you've reacted,
- 14:06I shouldn't have reacted like that.
- 14:08And then over time, most of the time you don't.
- 14:11You step back, you take a breath, you think about it, and then you react.
- 14:17You know, then you throw something at them.
- 14:21Once you've considered, I need an object heavy enough that it'll hurt,
- 14:25but not so heavy it'll kill them.
- 14:29So you know,
- 14:31of these poems are, I like this one, this is friend zone.
- 14:35Don't focus on the people gone, take care of those still here.
- 14:39The ones discreetly cheering on, the versions of you that you fear.
- 14:44We often overlook the friend who never went away. The one who saw you at your
- 14:48worst, who was non-negotiable to stay.
- 14:51Whether you're to blame or someone else's shame, it doesn't really matter cherish
- 14:57all who don't build walls and never deceive or flatter.
- 15:02That's something i feel quite strongly about actually you know we sometimes
- 15:06don't see the people that are right there beside us whether it's family friends
- 15:09or whoever and they're quietly there,
- 15:12you know helping you through your worst and cheering you on at your best and,
- 15:18you know it's two years on now really from,
- 15:22when i was kind of started to come out of the worst period of, of my adult life.
- 15:27And I still don't forget that.
- 15:29And part of the reason I do all this is, is to help me to not forget.
- 15:33And, you know, I write different things, horror anthology and different poems
- 15:38on, you know, politics and everything else.
- 15:40And these things are, they're wonderful, but they, they help me reflect,
- 15:46but not in, not in such a negative way where you're constantly kind of thinking about it.
- 15:51And I'm always interested in what people think. I get a lot of emails and messages
- 15:55from people after they've listened
- 15:56to these podcasts. And I'm always interested in what people think.
- 16:00If you think I'm full of shite, like, what do you think if there's a better
- 16:03way of doing this? I'm always interested in what people have to say.
- 16:08There's also, I've talked a bit before, and I'll read a poem about this shortly.
- 16:12There is also, we have a tendency to one dimension people.
- 16:17You know, they're all black and white.
- 16:20We see one part of them, and we think it's all of them.
- 16:23Particularly sometimes if it's negative. We don't agree with them politically,
- 16:27or they've done something in their life, or done something to us.
- 16:31And this is what I'm talking about. I know I've read this before. This is called labels.
- 16:35Sure, he's an insert label.
- 16:37To box him on a shelf then I'll be able to not look at myself or views that
- 16:43I hold because it's his that are bold sure he's an insert label a melt,
- 16:48from little adults hate can grow starting with this theme we dehumanize and
- 16:54don't empathize drawing on our own lines for the regime,
- 16:59not really it's just about it's fairly straightforward obviously it's not like
- 17:02I'm translating it from Latin for you but,
- 17:06I've stopped labeling people, certainly those close to me,
- 17:10and started conversing with them more.
- 17:13And those interesting conversations, trying to find out what makes somebody
- 17:16tick or why they think the way they do, you know?
- 17:21Like I talked about on the live Instagram last night, which is lost in the midst
- 17:26of time because I forgot to save it.
- 17:29A poem, Sean McGuire is his name, and he's published through the Lost Soul Events.
- 17:36And it was a wonderful poem about Shane McGowan and Henry Kissinger.
- 17:40So he's really talking about Henry Kissinger through some of the lyrics of Shane
- 17:44McGowan and other stuff. And it's a very, very clever poem.
- 17:47I haven't got it to hand now because I'm not at home, but it is two people where
- 17:53Shane McGowan was all about peace and love and forgiveness.
- 17:56And at your very worst, we could still be loved people and loving people and
- 18:01then you have Henry Kissinger who was known to be quite the warmonger and certainly
- 18:06in Southeast Asia and he was a war hawk,
- 18:10in the US and an advisor to,
- 18:13many presidents and I think he was in was it Nixon's was it Nixon's cabinet,
- 18:20but I thought that was kind of you know McGowan is someone who's I love that melancholy that.
- 18:29You the misfits you know that people don't really they label see what i did
- 18:34see how clever that is there i wasn't even thinking about that but they label
- 18:39so i often saw it with shane mcgowan where,
- 18:42certainly as he got older you know he had a very slurred way of talking and,
- 18:46so he was almost brought on to some british chat shows as a he's a pisshead
- 18:51irish singer but he was a poet a wonderful human being you know a songwriter,
- 18:58and just amazing and i'm not taking the piss when i say this there's some really
- 19:02great interviews he's done they're on youtube if you put it to 1.5 times the speed,
- 19:09it brings him actually to normal pace of speech and the interviews are a lot,
- 19:15easier to you really get his stream of consciousness and his thinking.
- 19:19But he was a wonderful guy.
- 19:21I'm going to read this one because I love him to bits. Measuring our dreams.
- 19:26Covered in the cloak of silence, I hear you talking in my head.
- 19:30Sing Shane McGowan poetically crowned, the best to put paper with lead.
- 19:35Singing lonely and solo transported to Soho, rainy night here in my room.
- 19:40Love lost and care tossed, but never to be lost, the king of the lovesick and doomed.
- 19:46And I took so much from his lyrics, pair of brown eyes, body of an American,
- 19:51rain night in Soho. There's so many of them.
- 19:54That line I've talked about before, that covered in the cloak of silence,
- 19:58I hear you talking in my head. Sometimes I wake up in the morning,
- 20:01the ginger lady by my bed. That's the whiskey bottle that is young.
- 20:06The cloak of silence, I hear you talking in my head. It's just beautifully written.
- 20:13And again, it's about regret. He's talking about a woman clearly is no longer in his life.
- 20:18He made mistakes probably and doesn't feel he can ever make recompense for them.
- 20:22But as long as people are here, you can always try.
- 20:26I'm going to close out tonight with the poem I wrote.
- 20:32I might finish with too.
- 20:35Let me start with well-known acceptance. Acceptance isn't about the wait,
- 20:40taking on permanent strain.
- 20:43It doesn't shackle you to guilty traits, or stay on that driverless train.
- 20:48Acceptance isn't the boulder in front, stopping wounded villain's journey.
- 20:53It's ending cycles firmly ensconced, of halting lessons learning.
- 20:58Acceptance is that it's sad, the ending morbid and teary.
- 21:02It removes the sackcloth and ashes clad to your mind, tired and weary.
- 21:07Fry your tears when they must fall and head towards your life and enjoy the
- 21:12tears without guilty fears for the one not at your side.
- 21:17It's a recent one I'd forgotten about actually.
- 21:20I've written so many of them, but I think that speaks for itself.
- 21:24The acceptance. That's about, that's not about amends, it's about acceptance. It's done.
- 21:30And it's time to move on and accept that it's done, whatever that is.
- 21:36So I'll finish with King for All Days. This was written yesterday.
- 21:42You don't become a king by being crowned, but by pulling those up with you,
- 21:46the friends who are about to drown when rising up from every subdued.
- 21:51You don't become a king by slaying dragons. True courage is empathy for the weak.
- 21:56Leadership is leading by example, not by the nose and trampling on the meek.
- 22:02You don't become a king by walking alone, with others scattered at your feet.
- 22:07The sword of Damocles above your throne, but a king doesn't use that pressure to retreat.
- 22:13I believe no one needs to be the king. Standing above, isolated and observed.
- 22:18Maybe love and loyalty is the thing. Kinship over kingship is no less than we deserve.
- 22:25That guys as i said it's the rooted soul books.com where you can get the book
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- 22:42alan at the rooted soul books.com as always guys i welcome the feedback,
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