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Random Heathen Ramblings: S3, EP44 - You're Celebrating Yule All Wrong!!! · Random Heathen Ramblings

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My first responsibility is my family and I want you guys to
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remember to do the same thing, you know, I saw something a
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couple of weeks ago on a on somebody's like Facebook
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timeline and it was it was something that I thought was
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important and I shared it and it said something along the lines
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of, you know this is a reminder especially around this time of
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year the holidays Season is that you are under no obligation or
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responsibility to put yourself through financial emotional.
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Mental anxiety stress and stuff like that, just to give somebody
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something or whatever and you know, this time of year is very
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stressful for a lot of people. Because again, they feel
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obligated to do things that they probably aren't obligated to do,
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you know this this, you know, just inherent Dick feeling of
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up, it's the holiday season I got up, you know, by shit for
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everybody. And you know you don't you don't
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have, you may have certain people that you have obligations
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to and everybody's life and everybody's family's a little
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bit different, but always remember that if you can't be
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the best version of yourself at the most, you know, best Peak
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Performance, and all that, then you're you're selling everybody
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else, short, you're not going to be able to do the things that
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you feel that you're obligated to do anyway.
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To the best of your ability. So take the time as my point,
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you know, to take care of to take care of yourself.
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So it kind of ties into what's going on this week on this
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podcast. And so with the holidays coming
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right around the corner. As of right now.
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We are, you know, one week away from the start of what a lot of
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you pagans out here talking about is you'll or Yuletide.
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And as you can tell from the name of this podcast, your Doing
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it wrong. I'm just kidding.
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I, I've gone on the record a lot of times as saying that there's
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nobody out here that can tell you how to Heathen or how to
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practice your paganism or how to practice your spirituality to
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the degree. That if they tell you, you're
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doing it wrong, then you probably need to listen to other
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people. Now, with that being said, there
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are some things that should be considered with, with regards to
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accuracy or you know, being being sure that you're
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understanding what it is that You think you're saying is is
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factual or correct? And I know a lot of folks this
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time of year going into the end of December, are excited because
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again, it's, you know, you will and you will tie it and all this
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other very, you know, Festivus winter celebrations.
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And I wanted to talk about you'll today.
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I know a lot of content creators around this time of year are
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putting out stuff. Cards with regards to to You'll
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and saying, you know, you know, you'll was, you'll came first
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and, you know, the Christians stole everything about you'll
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and turned it into Christmas. And you know, if you want to,
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you know, make any sort of claims about, you know, paganism
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being bad and you should stop celebrating Christmas because
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it's full of pagan, you know? Ritual and imagery and
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traditions, and customs, and all these sorts of things, right?
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Well, I wanted to again, talk about.
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You'll from a historical angle at least to the degree that we
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know of and to sort of help you guys determine that, what what
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you may already know? Some of you.
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Some of you may be learning a thing or two about it and again
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this is this is information that I'm going to be citing sources
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for down in the Description and show notes of this podcast.
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So, you know, when you're done listening or watching this You
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can fact check it yourself, you know, when you can go and do
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your own research, which I always encourage encourage
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people to do themselves. Instead of just, you know, it's
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like the old Reading Rainbow LeVar Burton, right?
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At the end of every episode of Reading Rainbow.
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I remember as a kid, you know, Levar would always say but you
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don't have to take my word for it.
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And that's, that's, that's great.
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You know, and it's what I always encourage.
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People, don't take my word for it, don't take anybody else's
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word for it. Back it up with your own
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research and make sure that that that anything that you find that
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could potentially be. You know, contradicting what is
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said from what you heard gets brought to the brought out to
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light, you know? Because the one thing that I've
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come to realize is, you know, knowledge is constantly growing,
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you know, people are constantly growing, we're all learning new
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things and especially with trying to Loosely reconstruct or
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hardcore reconstruct. If you're if you're like a
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hardcore Reconstructionist, you know there's so much that you
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know 20 30 years ago. We didn't know that we know now
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and it changes things for us. So you know, it's constantly
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growing is constantly evolving and we have to grow and evolve
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with it if that's your angle. So you know, as I said before
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it, we're coming into the time of year where everybody is all
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excited because they're they're, they're making Is to do things
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with their with their tribes with their kindred's with their
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groups of you know other like-minded.
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Folks, to celebrate this, you know, winter festival, which we
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refer to as you will. And and I'll one of the very one
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of the very common things to to adopt is the 12 nights of fuel
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in and they you know interchange it with the 12 nights of
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Christmas and make it into the 12 nights of you land forever.
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Every twelve nights that lead up to the end of the month of
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December. There's a specific celebration
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or a specific, you know, Focus. Whether it be to ancestors,
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whether it be to a certain god or goddess, or what have you.
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And so every night starting on the first of the 12 nights of
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quote-unquote, you'll everybody is doing different things and
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it's pretty readily, you know, discoverable if you just, you
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know, Google 12 nights of you will.
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If you Google, you'll you're probably going to find most, you
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know, information to reflect something around this time of
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year in December, right? And that there's 12 nights.
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And, you know, the first nights is, is Mother's night and on and
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on down the line, there's there's a night for Thor,
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there's a night for Odom, there's a night for the
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Valkyries. There's a night for I guess.
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Frig there's all different kinds of you know, focuses.
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On each night, leading up to the end of the year at the end of
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the, you know, the calendar month of December.
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Now, this does not, this is this, this episode, right?
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This is not intended to Scold or it again, tell people, you're
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doing it wrong. If this is the way that you
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think you will should be celebrated, then then you're
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doing it all wrong. All this is meant to do is just
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be again. A lesson on learning
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educational, right? And then whatever fits right?
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So like I'm going to just use an example.
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If there's a group of pagans of heathens will say that that have
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been celebrating their Yule tide or you'll time festivals or
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celebrations with their Group for the last x amount of years
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for however, long it might be and they do it in the month of
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December, and they do it for twelve nights and it works for
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them than there is no reason for them to stop doing it that way.
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Because I feel that there is more value and there's more
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importance in the purpose behind doing it rather than the, you
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know, my doing it. Historically correct.
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Am I, you know, am I following? The observances of the Ewell.
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Time of year the, you know that the Festival of you or am I
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following it based off of historical sources and I doing
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it that way, or am I doing it? Just what I've, you know, read
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in a book, you know, in the library years ago or what I
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Googled and found online in the first article that I, that, I
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stumbled across really what it matters is.
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Why are you doing it that way the purpose behind what you're
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doing? And if you've achieved good
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results doing it that way, then my whole thing is, you know, if
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it ain't broke, don't fix it. Now if you're exploring certain
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aspects of your paganism of your Heathen Ray and you're trying
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to, you know, adopt it in the most authentic way possible
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while, you know, following a historical approach to things
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and this maybe, you know, more up your alley.
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Maybe you haven't quite set a specific way of Doing things.
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Maybe you're, you know, testing the waters.
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You did it this way, one year and now you're trying it the
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different way another year. And I you're kind of going back
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and forth and you're adopting different things, right?
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One thing I've seen very, very recently and I say recently like
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within the last few years, was this rise of these soon?
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Oh wait I think it's soon await our son.
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Wait candles where you've got eight?
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Candles that you lie. So at eight the candles that are
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It represents the first set of it, I think on the elder futhark
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or something like that and you've got so each candle
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represents a rune and there's a thing that you're supposed to do
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any sign. It reminds me of like Advent in
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a way. It really reminds me of, like, a
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heathen Twist on Advent. Very, very modern.
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I don't even recall where the thing originated.
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I think it popped up somewhere and in Germany or Sweden, maybe
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or something, I forget, but if you look up, son, wait, candles
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online, there's there's there's articles about its origin, it's
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very, very new when I say no. I mean, like, just within the
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last, you know, 50 years, maybe the mat the most in it.
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So it doesn't have ancient historical sources of doing
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anything, but it is a very commonly adopted new age.
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You want to call it? Neo-pagan Neo, Heathen?
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I don't know. Ian for some heathens around
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this time of year round you'll. And again, if that's something
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you want to test out, you want to figure it out.
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You want to read more about, you want to learn more about it, see
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if it fits your practices and eight, give it a shot.
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It ain't like, if you do it, it's going to render you a
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useless, Heathen or useless Pagan or your you know the worst
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Pagan ever for having tried it, it's you know, test the waters
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out, see if it works but it definitely doesn't have any
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historical. You know, basis that we have
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Source material to back up. So what we're going to talk
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about today is is historical, you'll right?
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So you'll was a mid winter. Celebration.
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It was one of the three High feasts or three High major bloat
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such as it were that were observed by the.
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In Germanic peoples the Germanic tribes prior to the Viking age
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prior to the Christian influence of of Germania and Scandinavian
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countries and Mainland Germania. So when it was held Old.
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Okay was not at the end of December.
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So you have to think about the way that time was reckoned or
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that the way that time was observed prior to the
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christianization of the area's. You know, the way that the
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Germanic tribes would observe time was was based off of the
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lunar solar lunisolar calendar. So when was the new moon, when
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was the full moons and and that sort of thing?
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And you all is a mid winter. Festival, with a Midwinter.
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Bloat out of all of the major bloats.
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This is again, one of the most important ones Seager.
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Bloats the victory bloat in the beginning of summer, winter
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nights, which starts the beginning of the winter months
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and then you'll being the third one that signifies the middle of
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winter. We've kind of we've reached the
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we see light at the end of the tunnel.
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We're getting lighter days now soon, you know, the crops we can
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start thinking about planting once the Winter months are gone,
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you know so it's kind of like that you know mid Midway point
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of the harshest time of the year in the north and you've made it.
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You you survive you haven't died.
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You haven't Frozen you haven't, you know, been robbed or killed
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or anything like that. So it's a time of celebration
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for making it through the the middle of the harshest time of
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the year in the North. And every major bloat, every
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High Feast. Every, every major, you know,
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historically documented celebration, that was held was
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held for three nights, you will is no different.
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So you'll Is known to more recently.
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Now, be celebrated on a course, a full moon now, which Full Moon
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are we talking about? Because again, we've got x
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amount of months of the year and if and if we're looking at it
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from a historical, You know that historical heathen.
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Perspective. We're looking at the house.
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I can because I'm pulling up my notes Here.
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You know, the it didn't fall on fix days of the year.
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And that's and that's one thing. It's like when we see modern
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Renditions of you'll, it's like, you'll starts on December 21st
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with Mother's night, and it ends on December 31st with, you know,
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whatever. The last night of you'll the 12
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nights of fuel. That's not how it worked back
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then, you know, again, the way the, the lunar solar Cycles,
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when the full moons in the new moons.
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Began and started. We got to look at it from that
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perspective. Plus we also have sources that
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tell us that it was, you know, this and that there were three
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nights to it all. So, the moon cycle start on the
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new moon. So the moon cycle is from New
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Moon to New Moon and full moon is the what's happening in
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between. So when did you will get
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celebrated? It was I lost my notes here
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because it can get It's the first full moon after the third
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new moon or something like that. Hold on.
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I'm going to find it. I have all these Yeah, every new
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moon begins a month. New moon to New Moon was the
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cycle, which is where we get the word month from because it's a
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loaner lunisolar thing. Where is it?
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I'm gonna fight it guys. Just bear with me here.
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You guys can shrill out for just a second of this.
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It yeah, you will is the so, when, if we're, if we're trying
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to make a rule, right? If we're, if we're going to look
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at knowing when the holidays were, were kept from a
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historical Heathen perspective. If we're going to look at that,
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we can come up with a dramatic rule for you'll.
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Maybe. So rule for you all.
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Is that you will is always Ways celebrated or always lands on
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the first full moon? After the first new moon,
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Following the winter solstice. So when winter solstice hits?
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We're actually I think at the time of the this podcast airing
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where you know less than a week away, So you know right around
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this time next week give or take six five six five or six days or
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so from now we're hitting the winter solstice.
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So the first full moon after the first new moon after the winter
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solstice. So this you'll coming up, right?
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From historical Heathen perspective is going to be on
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the full moon in January, the first full moon in January,
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which is going to be January. Sixth last year.
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It was a different date. The next year, it's going to be
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a different date. So you gotta follow the cycles
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of the Moon. To know, when you'll hit same
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way with all the other major, holy Tides, because the major
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like, you'll sigurd loathe inventor nights or event.
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Their nature, where held at on the full moon for three nights
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long. So, on the third night, was the
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full moon and that was when the feasting and all the
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celebrations culminated and concluded.
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So, They were not 12 nights of you'll or there were not 12
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nights of you. I should say there were always
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three nights of you'll and it happened in roughly January ish.
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It's going to probably vary a bit again, based off of the
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lunisolar calendar that or the lunar solar Cycles.
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So you're never going to have you'll land on the same month,
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day of the month of the year, every year, not like how again,
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as I mentioned before, the modern Twist on the 12, Nights
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of Christmas 12 nights of you. You're always going to have it
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land on the same days and nights doesn't didn't work that way
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back then. So how do we know that it was
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three nights? And how do we know that this was
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was when and how it was done? We've got several sources that
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talk about this. I'm going to find a few to read
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through real quick. Yeah, so one of the big one of
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the biggest reference sources is hamstring.
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Le Saga Saga of hakan. The good.
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Who was, of course, king of Norway that United everything
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and he was the first Christian King, and he's the reason.
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For the season. Or I should say better say, he's
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the reason why. The Christmas holiday.
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Now in December is called you'll because in Scandinavia today, At
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the time that when Hawking the good was was was King.
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He changed the store at the old way of doing things, the Pagan
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way of doing things and moved it back to align with the Julian
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calendar, that was adopted or that was being adopted in the
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conversion period when Scandinavia was becoming
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christianized. And he moved it back, so that
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way. The people of the land, you
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know, that we're celebrating their old Pagan ways could align
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with how the Christ mass, or Christmas, how, and when that
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was observed. So there was already Christmas,
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there was already the Christ Mass.
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This was something he wasn't that Christmas got discovered or
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got, you know, Twisted into or from old Pagan ways, it would
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already existed. It was already there.
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So, so when everybody's like, oh, you know, they stole you'll
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from us, no, they didn't. They had their own thing.
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It just got moved up, thanks to Oaxaca, and over here.
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So in the Chapter a see chapter 15 of The Saga.
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Him swing The Saga Saga of Hawking, the good King haakon
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was a good Christian when he came to Norway, but as the whole
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country was Heathen, with much, Heathen, bloat.
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And as many great people, as well as the favor of the common
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people were to be conciliated. He resolved to practice his
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Christianity in private, but he kept Sundays and the they fasts
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and some tokens of the great holy days, he made a law that
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the Festival of you'll should begin at the same time as
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Christian people held it. There Christ mass and that,
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every man under penalty should brew a meal of malt into a land
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there with, keep the you'll holy as long as it lasted before him.
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The first night of you all was on hook.
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A note that is midwinter night and you'll was held for three
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nights. It was his intent As soon as he
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had set himself fast in the land and had subjected the whole to
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his power to introduce Christianity, he went to work
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first by enticing, the Christianity to Christianity,
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The Men Who were desired dearest to him and many had a friendship
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to him allowed themselves to be baptized in some later side
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performing blow. So again, thanks to Hawk in the
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good in Norway and that's where people started.
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Moving their Pagan practices of you'll in The midwinter January,
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ish timeframe back to when again, the Christmas holiday is
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being held now. So that's why we see, you know,
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12 nights of your. I think there's there's some
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similarity so that but again it was never historically, 12
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nights. It was always, it was always
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three nights. Up up, up, up up, up.
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Let's see here. So there's another reference to
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the the major bloats that I alluded to earlier, you'll see
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go to bloat and winter nights. There's a mention of these in
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the angling, The Saga Saga, the Younglings which has Swedish.
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And you know it's the chronolock chronicles of the Kings and
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ancestry of kings of Sweden. But in England.
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Like a chapter 8 from about the year 1225.
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So again we're already talking about after the Viking age
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lists, the three great bloats of the year and it's quoted says
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Odin established. The same law in his land that
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had been in force in all salon on winter day.
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First day of winter, there should be a bloat for a good
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year. And in the middle of winter for
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a good crop, this is you'll. And then, the third blow should
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be on a summer day. A victory bloat, which is what
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Seger bloat is. So see good blow is Victory
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bloat in Old Norse. Already talked about hamstring,
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The Saga, The Saga of Hawking, the good about the the you'll
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being celebrated for three nights, that's again in the mid
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1200s, you know, when it was written.
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We also see a reference to this, in the poetic Edda in the lay of
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helgi, the son of heareth of sorry Horvath.
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Sure Barth It's a very long. Passage.
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I'm not going to read it right now.
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It's there's a lot to it there, but I'll leave a name for you
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guys to research if you coming. I'm sure there's got to be PDFs
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or if any of you have a copy of the poetic Edda, it is again.
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I'm not going to butcher the the old Norse name.
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But it's I think it's Helga Vita your wassenaar delay of helgi,
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the son of George Barth, and it's in chapter 4.
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So, I want to like, I'm going to mention that down in the show
27:58
notes and in the description as well, aside from that, if you
28:04
are looking at this from a Saxon angle, the Saxon Heathen angle,
28:11
You're familiar with bead. So this this is some old stuff.
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This is way before the start of the Viking age.
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So this is around 725 a.d. and one of the AIDS work, D Temple
28:28
room rate, rushing own, I don't know, I don't speak Latin but in
28:33
but bead says that thus the Moon by which they began their winter
28:36
season was called winter, affiliate a name Compounded of
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the terms for winter and full moon.
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Because from the full moon of that Moon, Winter was thought to
28:48
begin. so again, there's there's a lot of other Scholarly work,
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you know that that is better than than what?
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I can tell you here, right now that confirms that you can you,
29:08
it was three nights, you'll was done, midwinter in the North in,
29:14
you know, around the January time frame.
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It was never set the same day or month of the year every year.
29:19
Because again, The cycles of the moon change.
29:25
But so those are some differences, right?
29:26
Those are some differences to what is done now versus what was
29:30
done. Now, let's look at some
29:31
similarities, right? What are some things about?
29:35
You'll historically that were done.
29:40
That are Done today. Regardless of when you do it
29:44
whether it's you know, the 12 months of yule in December /
29:47
Christmas or if you do it around more closely to the historically
29:52
reckoned keeping of it. So what are some things that
29:55
were similar than that are read? You know relived and see now
29:59
terms of traditions or Customs, right, and bear.
30:04
In mind, I'm just deciding a few things.
30:06
Mentioning, a few of the more common ones that there's
30:08
probably at least a hundred or more different sagas that have
30:12
reference to You'll plus the Ed is, you know, so we don't know
30:16
everything that there is to know about historical.
30:19
You'll yet, we're still figuring a lot of things out.
30:22
We're still coming up a lot of things.
30:23
That's why I mentioned earlier on that.
30:25
A lot of the stuff that was known back in, you know, 10, 20,
30:28
30 years ago, probably was what we knew back then and now
30:31
discovering new things. So it's always growing and we're
30:34
always changing. But as of what we can conclude,
30:38
you know, right now, one of the big things is that there was
30:40
gift-giving At you'll, you know, especially during sambal, which
30:46
was a ritual in itself, there were again, three days, three
30:54
nights, we know that. But that the the way that the
30:59
Ewell was celebrated with gift-giving, this is pretty
31:02
standard for all of the Germanic tribes regardless of the region.
31:10
A couple other neat things is that in specially Sweden?
31:14
You know so for some of the nurse countries that the
31:17
Scandinavian countries, especially Sweden, you'll was a
31:19
bloat to start thinking about planting of crops.
31:22
And as I mentioned before, you've made it through the worst
31:24
part of the winter, the harshest part of the Year things are
31:29
starting to look up a bit. You know, you can start looking
31:30
forward to longer days. Warmer days, the return of the
31:34
son of his life which you know, help your Crops grow.
31:41
And you know again there was a lot of feasting.
31:43
There was a lot of drinking. There was, I know a lot of
31:49
folks, nowadays, ourselves included like my My Family, My
31:53
Tribe. When we do our usual we always
31:55
have a ham, you know, and granted, we're not set up, you
31:59
know to slaughter or raise our own.
32:05
Hogs our own domestic Pig. So we, you know, have to go to
32:09
the stores and stuff and get hamd.
32:12
But-but-but, bore Wareham, was a very popular thing to consume in
32:19
ancient times for you'll specifically.
32:21
And it is a common Food item, for most of the modern you'll /
32:29
Christmas meals right Christmas ham.
32:31
You will ham but there's a reason for that.
32:36
The hair hit reverse hair over Saga, perhaps our hair, hair
32:42
VAR, Harry Potter, Saga, mentions, Oaths being sworn on
32:46
bores, you know, the the the the you will board, the you will ham
32:50
and are swearing Oaths on the bristles of the Boar that was
32:54
cooked. So it's an important element
32:58
back then as it is relived a bit now, maybe not for the same
33:01
reasons. But again it's a custom that we
33:04
see that it is is kind of relived we know one thing that,
33:18
For the Germanic tribes with you will being a three day and three
33:21
night long, you know, celebration is one slight
33:26
exception, there were dramatic, tribes of the Old English
33:32
people. That were a mixture of, you
33:34
know, the Roman Britain, Celts, and some English people who had
33:40
Germanic roots in and had migrated.
33:46
But the anguish Heathens for the English people, I should say,
33:51
celebrated both their you land and they mother's night which is
33:56
more like a an Easter celebration.
33:58
I think it came more from The Cult of the Roman Rhine land.
34:07
So once again, some similarities gift-giving the ham, lots of
34:14
feasting drinking, you know, and, you know, You can get
34:24
taught, you can get, you can get really tied up in the minutiae,
34:29
I guess of it all. If you really, really focused on
34:34
trying to reconstruct your Heathen re and into the most
34:37
accurate. Version based off of historical
34:41
sources then I think you'll and I don't mean this in any sort
34:47
of, I don't mean this in a bad way.
34:49
You almost run the risk of losing sight again of the
34:54
purpose. Why you're doing something?
34:56
You know, are you just going through the motions?
34:58
Because this is the way it was done 1,200 years ago or you
35:01
doing it with purpose to build. Traditions for people to carry
35:09
on now. You know, that's why it was done
35:11
the way it was done back then is because it was tradition that
35:15
was handed down to them and they were living those Traditions.
35:19
I talked about this with Heidi and Roger Abney from the, the
35:25
runestone heathens group up, there in Ohio, a couple of
35:28
podcasts ago, right talking about how tradition is should be
35:32
the preservation of fire. It's not this worship of Ashes.
35:35
It's not something that is dead and gone and useless anymore
35:37
that we should be focusing on it should be the things that are
35:40
still burning still able to be kindled and breathing new life
35:46
into those things, right? So again it nothing against
35:50
historical heathens, I actually love learning, most of all this
35:55
stuff from from some very you know, reputable sources and I
36:00
say, you know, learn as much as you can.
36:02
You know, you're going to find certain sources come Higher or
36:07
lower on the on the recommendation pole, especially
36:09
from some people and you can really get into again, you can
36:13
get, I'm sorry, lost in the sauce.
36:16
You know, get caught in the minutia of it, all in and lose
36:19
sight of the purpose behind it. What is the purpose?
36:21
What is your worldview? What are your, what are your
36:23
people's worldview? What are the Foos?
36:26
What are the Traditions? Whether customs of the people
36:27
that you've come to tie your life to and with right?
36:32
How have you set up those things in your You know, collectives,
36:40
your groups doesn't really matter so much.
36:42
At that point how it was done thousand years ago because
36:46
that's how it worked for them. if we're trying to, Again,
36:53
preserve that fire of tradition. I think that's a great place to
36:58
start. I think it's great that we have
37:01
such Scholars and people who are devoted to finding those answers
37:06
and unraveling those Mysteries and uncovering, those concealed
37:10
parts of history that have been buried for so long.
37:13
You know, it's invaluable to have that kind of a devoted
37:17
network of people to tap into and it's nowadays and in the
37:21
21st century with the internet and, and so on and so forth,
37:24
it's easier now than ever to really sing Teeth into some of
37:28
this stuff. And if that's your thing, that's
37:30
what, you know, that's your, that's your job, then.
37:33
Go for it. I just, you know, when I first
37:39
started to really focus on, My Heathen re and doing things that
37:46
worked for me. It's I wanted to learn about the
37:49
past so that way I could build something for myself and for the
37:52
people closest and nearest and dearest to me for our future,
37:57
you know, what is stuff that we can do now that as our tribe
38:03
grows, and as we get new people that come into our tribe, that
38:06
that when our bodies are dead and gone than the, you know,
38:09
clearly Focus still here where you know, I am not clearly folk,
38:14
you know, myself, you know, individual members, it really,
38:19
really focus everybody. And then one individuals pass
38:23
on, you know, the Legacy, the spirit of the tribe lives on the
38:29
spirit of the people live on. Because it's, it's it's not tied
38:33
to just one person. It's tied to the entirety the
38:36
group, so you know, the Legacy continues and if you know, the
38:42
way things that hurt Folk does works for us, that and it
38:46
doesn't work for, you know, the next drive or Kinder, or
38:49
whatever down the road, then that's fine.
38:51
They're doing things their way. They're doing things that should
38:54
hopefully be preserving the luck in the future of their tribe in
38:58
their people. That's what it's about, you
39:02
know, it's about finding that authenticity that that's deeply
39:06
rooted purpose. And again, I believe it needs to
39:09
be deeply rooted, but we can't get so stuck in the roots.
39:12
We can't get so rootbound that we've lost daylight and we've
39:17
now become stagnant and we can't grow anymore because there's,
39:21
you know, we're you know, any plan, any tree that becomes root
39:24
bound gets Tangled Up in itself, right?
39:26
You think of a potted plant that starts growing So much that it
39:31
can't. Grow anymore because it's
39:34
contained into that small pot will becomes just a ball of
39:37
roots. It doesn't have the opportunity
39:38
to grow to get stunted needs room at need space.
39:41
It needs an easy opportunity to Branch out to grow to see other
39:45
things to feel other things to network, right?
39:49
I feel like that's the way he even reworks.
39:51
It's, you know, very basic in that, in that in that sense,
39:57
there's, there's work to be done there.
39:58
There's its, it doesn't just happen overnight, it doesn't
40:01
just happen without work being put into it, but it's definitely
40:06
there at its core, you know. So going back to it, all kind of
40:12
wrapping it up. You know, this is the second to
40:15
last podcast of the season. End of season 3.
40:23
If you guys tune in next week, I'm hoping to get some guests on
40:27
to kind of have a season 3 finale.
40:29
We'll see how that goes, but yeah, this is going to be,
40:34
there's only one more episode. To season 3 and then season 4 of
40:43
the random. Even ramblings podcast starts
40:46
next month in 2023. So lots of great.
40:51
Lots of great stuff going on this year, you guys.
40:52
And I do just want to say before I wrap this up that you know,
40:57
seeing the growth seeing the advancement of the podcast has
41:01
all been thanks to your participation your interaction
41:06
and your engagement you know, you Is commenting sharing.
41:11
Posting your thoughts answering questions are answering, you
41:14
know, inquiries and things from, from fans, from myself, from
41:18
everybody, just being engaging, and being a part of it, all has
41:20
made this podcast, grow into what it is.
41:23
So, you should be congratulating and thanking yourselves as well,
41:26
because this is, you know, partly me and the majority of it
41:31
is all of you, you know? So wherever you are listening
41:35
and watching to on today's random Heathen rambling podcast.
41:40
This time next week will be the final season for the final
41:45
episode of season 3. You know.
41:48
And it'll probably be the start for a lot of you folks that that
41:53
do the 12 nights of, you'll probably right at the beginning
41:56
or at least you know a couple of days in to your celebrations.
42:03
So if that's your thing, that's your groove and if that's where
42:05
you're going with it, and that's what you've been doing and
42:08
that's what works for you then I wish you all. all a safe
42:12
prosperous and Warm you a good. You lay.
42:19
Glad you and for everybody else that is celebrating later on
42:26
like myself and my tribe. You know when we when we get our
42:30
when we get our you Lon next next month, you know, good,
42:35
you'll to you all as well and we'll talk again around that
42:38
time, but thank you all so much for listening and watching
42:41
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43:07
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43:10
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43:13
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43:15
And have a wonderful you'll that you are celebrating this coming
43:17
week. And may your ancestors smile
43:21
upon you may the gods continue to notice you.
43:24
Thank you all.