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The Late Debate | 14 May · The Late Debate

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  Speaker 1: Lately.
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  Speaker 2: Welcome the late base.
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  Speaker 3: Thanks for joining us. I'm James Macpherson with Liz Storer
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  Speaker 3: and Caleb Bond. Well, what happens when you're trying to
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  Speaker 3: sell a house and you discover the former owner long
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  Speaker 3: before you, has just become the pope.
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  Speaker 4: Well you've won the lottery. That's what happens.
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  Speaker 3: We'll talk about that and exactly how a couple are
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  Speaker 3: handling it in just a moment. Plus, when we look
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  Speaker 3: at the papers, Lydia Thorpe set to return to the Greens.
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  Speaker 4: That's what the.
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  Speaker 3: Front page of The Australian is going with tomorrow, and
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  Speaker 3: the Career Mail front page details the secret.
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  Speaker 4: Lives of NRL players. All of that shortly.
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  Speaker 3: But first, parents are furious that an Adelaide childcare center
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  Speaker 3: has advised them preschoolers will be celebrating International Day against Homophobia,
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  Speaker 3: biphobia and transphobia. I swear to assume transphobia is a
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  Speaker 3: massive problem amongst bigoted, narrow minded toddlers.
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  Speaker 4: Australiaia left into phobia.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, you are the remay.
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  Speaker 5: Against homophobia, by phobia, transphobia and into I don't.
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  Speaker 4: Know what interphobia is.
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  Speaker 6: Well this that's why they have this day for you,
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  Speaker 6: James McPherson, I shouldn't let that fly.
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  Speaker 3: Clearly, preschool has changed a lot since I was there.
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  Speaker 3: Maybe I need to go back learn. Margaret Ives Community
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  Speaker 3: Children's Center advised parents this week that on Friday, kids
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  Speaker 3: should come to childcare wearing rainbow colors and they would
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  Speaker 3: celebrate the gay and transgendered community by, amongst other things,
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  Speaker 3: eating fairy bread. The statement released by St Ives Childcare
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  Speaker 3: Center read as follows. At Margaret Ives, we work intentionally
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  Speaker 3: to challenge gender stereotypes and ensure authentic representation of the
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  Speaker 3: many ways people live, love, and form families. Childcare certainly
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  Speaker 3: changed a lot since.
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  Speaker 4: I was there.
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  Speaker 3: Our goal is to honor the richness of our diverse,
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  Speaker 3: cohor and broader community. I would have thought the goal
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  Speaker 3: of childcare was to care for children, but there you go.
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  Speaker 4: We guide children.
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  Speaker 3: They said to understand and value and calbern Liz, I
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  Speaker 3: think that's a key word.
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  Speaker 4: Value. They're pushing a worldview. What are their values?
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  Speaker 3: Well, that families can take many forms, whether nuclear, single parents,
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  Speaker 3: same sex parents, foster or surrygan parents, blended families. This
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  Speaker 3: part's got me curious and beyond I'm not sure what's
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  Speaker 3: beyond that long shopping list, Liz. Are they just promoting
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  Speaker 3: harmless diversity and inclusion or is something else going on?
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  Speaker 5: Well, there's absolutely nothing about harmless about diversity and inclusion
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  Speaker 5: as we know, the point of this is that they
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  Speaker 5: also read these books to children. This has been going
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  Speaker 5: on for three years now, and those books include Heather
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  Speaker 5: Has Two Mummies, Be Exactly who You Are and a
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  Speaker 5: book called Two Homes. These are three and a half
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  Speaker 5: year olds these books are read to This is indoctrination,
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  Speaker 5: pure and simple, and parents are rightly outraged. Just take
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  Speaker 5: your kids out, by the way, because these people aren't
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  Speaker 5: going to change. Like I say, this is the third
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  Speaker 5: year in a row that they've done this.
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  Speaker 7: Parents are saying, Wait, isn't.
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  Speaker 5: It parents' rights to teach children about sex, sexuality, gender,
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  Speaker 5: when and where and in whatever manner we choose to
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  Speaker 5: teach them. Not if you attend this daycare, they're not.
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  Speaker 7: Let's play a game.
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  Speaker 5: If you want to talk to a child that is
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  Speaker 5: not your own about sex, sexuality, gender, I get to
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  Speaker 5: call you a groomer, plain and simple. That is what
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  Speaker 5: we used to call people who wanted to talk to
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  Speaker 5: children about sex, sexuality and gender, because what are you
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  Speaker 5: grooming this child for?
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  Speaker 7: Is it a heterosexual lifestyle?
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  Speaker 5: No, you are telling this time tiny mind. You are
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  Speaker 5: introducing into the little cogs in their mind that wait,
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  Speaker 5: so boy, girl, that's not a binary thing.
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  Speaker 7: I thought I knew who I.
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  Speaker 5: Was, But now you're reading me a book called be
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  Speaker 5: exactly who you are, and it's inferring that I might
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  Speaker 5: be anything, and so on and so forth. What really
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  Speaker 5: gets me about these stories is not just how incredibly
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  Speaker 5: overt these people are about indoctrinating your babies. These are
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  Speaker 5: so so small still is parents being gun shy of
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  Speaker 5: standing up to them. In the article today, we read
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  Speaker 5: that one of the parents was saying, oh, quite a
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  Speaker 5: few of us parents want to say something, but we're
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  Speaker 5: scared of backlash.
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  Speaker 2: Who cares.
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  Speaker 5: The innocence of your child is beyond precious, and anything
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  Speaker 5: within your power you can do to protect it you
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  Speaker 5: are on a bound to do as a parent. Why
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  Speaker 5: would you let these indoctrinating flogs have their way with
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  Speaker 5: your child's mind? Because, as we know Caleb, children are
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  Speaker 5: little sponges. They take it all on board, and once
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  Speaker 5: they're exposed to an idea, there's no one raising it.
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  Speaker 2: Well the shame is.
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  Speaker 6: Part of the design is to make parents feel like
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  Speaker 6: they don't have an option, that they shouldn't say anything
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  Speaker 6: because there'll be repercussions for them.
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  Speaker 2: That's half a point, right right.
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  Speaker 6: And you know the book you said, what's it called?
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  Speaker 6: Be exactly who you are? I mean who you are
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  Speaker 6: as a three year old, exactly for goodness sake. I mean,
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  Speaker 6: the idea that a child of two, three or four
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  Speaker 6: gives two hoots about sexuality or race or any other
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  Speaker 6: thing for that matter, is just nonsense. I mean, they
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  Speaker 6: go to daycare, they interact with their little mates at daycare.
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  Speaker 2: They don't care what's going on at home or whether
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  Speaker 2: their mum's a lesbian or like.
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  Speaker 6: The little kids couldn't give a stuff. It doesn't need
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  Speaker 6: to be introduced to them. But the idea is, of course,
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  Speaker 6: that the earlier you can get someone, the more likely
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  Speaker 6: you are to be able to convert them to your ideology.
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  Speaker 6: It's the long march through the institutions that the hand
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  Speaker 6: that rocks the cradle rules the world. And we're going
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  Speaker 6: with a hundred sayings that illustrate all of this. And
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  Speaker 6: the purpose now, of course, is to get them as
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  Speaker 6: young as possible that this day. What do they It's
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  Speaker 6: called ida hobbit is, which sounds like what you'd say
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  Speaker 6: if you're a character in the Lord of the Rings,
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  Speaker 6: I suppose, But it doesn't need to be introduced to
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  Speaker 6: little kids like that at all. It doesn't enter their heads.
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  Speaker 6: The point is that they are putting it in their heads.
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  Speaker 6: You can't tell me there are three year olds running
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  Speaker 6: around at daycare who are massively homophobic. They're not even
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  Speaker 6: aware that it's a thing, and they shouldn't be made
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  Speaker 6: aware that it's a think because it confuses them. Little
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  Speaker 6: minds do not have the capacity to deal with these concepts.
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  Speaker 6: They don't understand them, and so you start introducing it
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  Speaker 6: to them and they're like.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, well, my gay.
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  Speaker 6: I mean, they don't know because they're not designed to
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  Speaker 6: know this stuff at that age.
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  Speaker 3: There's a couple of telling statements from the childcare center.
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  Speaker 3: They said in the media they're quote passionate about encouraging
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  Speaker 3: and nurturing an environment where every child feels safe, scene
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  Speaker 3: and celebrated for who they are. Of course, it's ridiculous
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  Speaker 3: to think that a three year old needs to be
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  Speaker 3: celebrated for being gay or a lesbian or trans it's
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  Speaker 3: just a three year old kid, Like you said, Caleb,
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  Speaker 3: they're not familiar with those concepts. So when they say
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  Speaker 3: they're passionate about encouraging and nurturing an environment in which kids,
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  Speaker 3: they're passionate about nurturing an environment, not an environment where
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  Speaker 3: kids feel to be who they are, but in an
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  Speaker 3: environment where kids learn radical gender theory and different sexuality
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  Speaker 3: ideas that some parents may or may not agree with.
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  Speaker 3: As you said, if you're going to try to recreate
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  Speaker 3: human sexuality in the understanding of gender, you're not going
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  Speaker 3: to convince any of us.
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  Speaker 4: So where do you go.
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  Speaker 3: You go to preschool and you start right there, and
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  Speaker 3: it'll take your twenty or twenty five years. You're allowed
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  Speaker 3: to do it, as you said, Liz, by parents who
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  Speaker 3: were too scared to raise their voices for fear of repercussions.
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  Speaker 3: Then twenty or twenty five years will see the fruit
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  Speaker 3: of this.
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  Speaker 6: And you know what, I'm glad I was born when
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  Speaker 6: I was because you know, as a kid, I used
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  Speaker 6: to put on this in an old lady. We can
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  Speaker 6: get around to pertendo as an old lady, right, And
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  Speaker 6: I reckon dead set. If you did stuff like that
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  Speaker 6: at a daycare center. Now they'd be pulling your parents
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  Speaker 6: aside and saying, oh, you know, have you wondered whether
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  Speaker 6: or not to little Caleb is transgender or not? Or
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  Speaker 6: if the boy wants to play with Barbie dolls or
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  Speaker 6: he puts on a dress in dress ups or something.
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  Speaker 2: They'd start saying, well, there could.
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  Speaker 6: Be something going on here and ignore the fact that.
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  Speaker 2: It's just a little kid, Gloria.
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  Speaker 3: If they pulled the parents aside, you'd be lucky because
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  Speaker 3: people without advice.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, and me, I was a hardcore tomboy growing up
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  Speaker 5: in country Victoria. If someone had come along to me
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  Speaker 5: and introduced the idea into my little brain, have.
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  Speaker 7: You thought about the fact that you might actually be
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  Speaker 7: a boy? Genuine and lee.
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  Speaker 5: I reckon, I would have absolutely been like, well, hang
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  Speaker 5: on a minute, you're saying that's possible. I love the motorbikes,
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  Speaker 5: I love the bmxa's, I hate playing with barbies. It
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  Speaker 5: all makes sense to me, like it is, just you
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  Speaker 5: cannot quantify the damage that these people are deliberately doing
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  Speaker 5: to other people's children when they've been entrusted with. Just
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  Speaker 5: look after them, just make sure they're fed, and you
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  Speaker 5: sing the ABC's.
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  Speaker 6: For crying out and instead of Liz Storra, we'd have
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  Speaker 6: Leath Storer, but I think I prefer her as listen.
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  Speaker 2: She mentions Victoria.
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  Speaker 6: We'll go over to Victoria for a moment, because of
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  Speaker 6: course we know it's the People's Socialist Capital.
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  Speaker 2: Republic down there. And constantly you've.
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  Speaker 6: Had all of these statues of Captain Cook for some
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  Speaker 6: reason or another, being vandalized on Australia Day. I do
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  Speaker 6: this bit all the time. Captain Cook had nothing to
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  Speaker 6: do with the first fleet. He was dead nine years
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  Speaker 6: before they arrived. He came out and mapped the place.
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  Speaker 6: He did not settle it. You are going after the
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  Speaker 6: wrong person. But never mind, because they they do keep
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  Speaker 6: going after him, specifically statues and monuments to him. And
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  Speaker 6: so the Yarra Council in Melbourne now says they're not
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  Speaker 6: going to put one of these monuments back because it
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  Speaker 6: keeps being attacked and it's just simply too expensive to
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  Speaker 6: keep repairing it. It had cost fifteen grand. This happened
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  Speaker 6: on Australia Day last year. It was toppled and they
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  Speaker 6: put on it to Cook the colony in red spray painter.
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  Speaker 6: As you can see there. It had cost fifteen grand
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  Speaker 6: to repair apparently, and they've already spent one hundred odd
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  Speaker 6: grand over the past twenty five years to maintain it.
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  Speaker 6: And so the council says, well, it's not worth putting
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  Speaker 6: it back now because it just costs too damn much
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  Speaker 6: and the vandals are going to come after it again.
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  Speaker 6: So you hand a win to the vandals. You send
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  Speaker 6: them the message that you can just go around vandalizing,
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  Speaker 6: toppling statues and monuments as well. They just won't be
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  Speaker 6: there anymore because you've made too much.
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  Speaker 2: Of a nuisance of yourself.
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  Speaker 6: Well, funnily enough, the mayor of the Yarra Council, Stephen Jolly,
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  Speaker 6: says he's not giving into the van So he said,
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  Speaker 6: I don't think it's a good idea to destroy statues
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  Speaker 6: of people from the past, but we simply can't afford it.
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  Speaker 6: If we wanted to keep it there permanently, we would
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  Speaker 6: probably have to have security guards there and more lighting.
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  Speaker 6: I just don't think the locals want that. And sure
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  Speaker 6: I understand from a fiscal point of view what you
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  Speaker 6: are trying to say, but you can't tell me that
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  Speaker 6: this is not a win for the vandals. It's saying
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  Speaker 6: you get to decide what we celebrate and commemorate in
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  Speaker 6: this country on the basis of an axe and a
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  Speaker 6: can of spray paint. And I've made the point before
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  Speaker 6: that if you're going after monuments to the history of
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  Speaker 6: this country, it's effectively treasonous, right because you are attacking
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  Speaker 6: the foundations of this country. And we are now at
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  Speaker 6: a point where councils are saying, oh, well, you know.
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  Speaker 2: It's all too hard.
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  Speaker 6: We'll just put the thing in storage somewhere, We'll give
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  Speaker 6: it to the Captain Cook Society, and it will never
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  Speaker 6: be seen in public again.
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  Speaker 2: It is a win for the vandals.
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  Speaker 6: I mean, this is open season now saying to vandals,
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  Speaker 6: go after every statue and monument you don't like. If
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  Speaker 6: you attack it enough and it becomes too costly for
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  Speaker 6: us to fix it, we'll simply.
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  Speaker 2: Take the thing down. That's what they wanted in the
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  Speaker 2: first place.
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  Speaker 3: If you don't have the money to fix it, it's
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  Speaker 3: pretty easy to solve that problem.
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  Speaker 4: You find the person who.
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  Speaker 3: Vandalized the monument and you invoice them for the repairs.
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  Speaker 4: At the cost of the repairs. It's amazing.
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  Speaker 3: In Victoria, they can find a pregnant woman who makes
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  Speaker 3: a Facebook post that it's against the government, but they
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  Speaker 3: can't find these people who, year after year after year
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  Speaker 3: vandalize these Captain Cook statements. For the mayor Steve and
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  Speaker 3: Jolly to say we can't afford to fix it, like you, Caleb,
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  Speaker 3: I would say you can't afford to not fix it,
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  Speaker 3: because to not fix it is to concede that Steve
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  Speaker 3: and Jolly the mayor is not running the city of Yarra,
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  Speaker 3: but activists are running it. Indeed, I would argue the
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  Speaker 3: council themselves are activists because I don't think they're short
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  Speaker 3: of fifteen thousand dollars. They say in their report, as
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  Speaker 3: well as it being very expensive to fix, the monument
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  Speaker 3: had little to no significance. They say that the monument
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  Speaker 3: caused contention in the community, and they say that Captain
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  Speaker 3: Cook himself was a quote contested figure, all of which
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  Speaker 3: goes to show the council have very little interest in
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  Speaker 3: finding any money to repair this. They actually would prefer
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  Speaker 3: it to be gone. And I think we can expect
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  Speaker 3: to see a lot more of this right across the country.
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  Speaker 3: Randwick Council here in Sydney took the longest time to
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  Speaker 3: decide whether or not they would repair their Captain Cook statue.
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  Speaker 3: They've decided to repair it, but they were dilly deallying
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  Speaker 3: for a while, thinking, ah, is it worth the cost?
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  Speaker 4: And I expect this will set a precedent.
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  Speaker 3: The city of Yarra not repairing it and letting it
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  Speaker 3: go will encourage every activist around the country and every
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  Speaker 3: activist council will follow their lead and say, you know what,
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  Speaker 3: it's just better not to have these things history.
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  Speaker 5: And if Randwick was tossing up whether to repair it
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  Speaker 5: this time, what do you think they're going to do
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  Speaker 5: next time? They're going to be like, look, we repaired
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  Speaker 5: it last time, it's happened again.
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  Speaker 7: We've got to call it.
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  Speaker 5: Quit what I'm a city councilor, though I do sympathize,
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  Speaker 5: I don't think it's legitimate in the case of Yarra's
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  Speaker 5: here because, like we say, fifteen thousand dollars is.
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  Speaker 7: A paltry sum.
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  Speaker 5: Trust me, when you're a city councilor that is pocket change,
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  Speaker 5: not even.
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  Speaker 7: But you've got to weigh up what are rate payers
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  Speaker 7: willing to pay for this thing?
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  Speaker 5: So if it's a larger monument, as in the case
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  Speaker 5: of Randwick, the cost is greater. How many times are
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  Speaker 5: rate payers willing to be like, yep, keep dipping into
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  Speaker 5: our weight. We really really want that monument, We really
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  Speaker 5: want that statue, We really want that memorial in our
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  Speaker 5: park or wherever it may be situated. And that is
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  Speaker 5: where the council does have to come to grips with, Okay,
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  Speaker 5: are we going to keep this up year in year out?
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  Speaker 5: If they do, it's going to be extremely costly. And
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  Speaker 5: if they don't, as you say, kayleb, we simply won't
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  Speaker 5: have any of them.
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  Speaker 3: But the question, though, is not do you want the monument.
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  Speaker 3: The question is do you want law and order?
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  Speaker 5: No? No, no, no, because as you just argued, they don't want the monument.
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  Speaker 5: So it is very important because the imperative is on
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  Speaker 5: the council and whether they want it or not, that's
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  Speaker 5: where the rubber hits the road.
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  Speaker 7: That's where the buck stops. That's where it gets re erected.
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  Speaker 5: Fifty times or it gets pushed over twice and they're like, oh, sorry,
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  Speaker 5: fifteen thousand dollars can possibly justify that it's got to go.
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  Speaker 5: So the political will actually is extremely important.
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  Speaker 6: It's fifteen grand right, So if we say, well, we're
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  Speaker 6: going to have to do it every year. There would
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  Speaker 6: be more than fifteen thousand properties in the Yarra Council.
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  Speaker 6: So just take one dollar off everyone's rates bill and
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  Speaker 6: put it aside to repair the monument. Just say, well,
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  Speaker 6: it's budgeted, We've budgeted for that. That's what we have
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  Speaker 6: to do. It's one dollar per property to make it
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  Speaker 6: saying you just do it, Just.
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  Speaker 5: Do it, and they don't have it, just do it.
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  Speaker 5: So it comes down to is this important to you?
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  Speaker 5: Is this a value? Clearly not if you're living in
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  Speaker 5: Yarra in the city of Melbourne.
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  Speaker 7: The questions that they're asking me.
• 16:52
  Speaker 5: He calls up the bank and to his utter disgust,
• 16:56
  Speaker 5: he said, this thing's all Wellian. They said, no, no,
• 17:00
  Speaker 5: it's legitimately from us. Particularly, they wanted to know why
• 17:06
  Speaker 5: he had cash, because they knew that he'd made with drawals.
• 17:10
  Speaker 7: What are you doing with that cash? Why do you
• 17:12
  Speaker 7: have cash in your home? He says.
• 17:17
  Speaker 5: What I have just gone through this morning with CBA
• 17:20
  Speaker 5: is disgusting.
• 17:22
  Speaker 7: This is him telling the media about it.
• 17:23
  Speaker 5: He said, it's absolutely despicable or welly and stuff driven
• 17:27
  Speaker 5: by Ostrack. Ostrack, for your information, is a financial intelligence
• 17:32
  Speaker 5: agency that should worry you straight off the bat, he said,
• 17:36
  Speaker 5: just out of the blue, the bank sent me the
• 17:38
  Speaker 5: enclosed email and demanded to know one how have I
• 17:41
  Speaker 5: built up my wealth?
• 17:43
  Speaker 1: Two?
• 17:43
  Speaker 7: Why have I made cash withdrawals? Three? If I am
• 17:46
  Speaker 7: holding cash at home? Why?
• 17:49
  Speaker 2: Four?
• 17:50
  Speaker 7: Why did I make certain transactions to third parties? He said.
• 17:55
  Speaker 7: I called the bank and it was true.
• 17:57
  Speaker 5: They were going to suspend all my account this week
• 18:02
  Speaker 5: if I didn't tell them.
• 18:03
  Speaker 7: The answers to the above questions.
• 18:05
  Speaker 5: They said Ostrak gave them the authority to do that
• 18:09
  Speaker 5: and get this pull.
• 18:11
  Speaker 7: Out from their email.
• 18:12
  Speaker 5: This is what they were threatening to do if he
• 18:15
  Speaker 5: didn't answer those questions satisfactorily by end of week.
• 18:19
  Speaker 7: This is the email from Combank. They threatened to remove
• 18:22
  Speaker 7: your ability to use.
• 18:24
  Speaker 5: And access your account or accounts, remove your ability to
• 18:28
  Speaker 5: use any linked cards, including at ATMs, at point of
• 18:31
  Speaker 5: sales and online, remove your ability to view and access
• 18:36
  Speaker 5: your account or accounts on netbank and the Combank app.
• 18:41
  Speaker 5: And stop any scheduled transactions, direct debits, direct credits or
• 18:47
  Speaker 5: regular payments. This, of course is all part of the
• 18:51
  Speaker 5: push toward digital currency, digital banking.
• 18:56
  Speaker 7: Now did anyone vote for this?
• 18:58
  Speaker 5: No, baby, But they want you to go digital and
• 19:01
  Speaker 5: they're not asking. Remember just last financial year we saw
• 19:06
  Speaker 5: two hundred bank outlets clothes.
• 19:10
  Speaker 7: Here in Australia.
• 19:12
  Speaker 5: Over the past five years, we saw six thousand ATMs
• 19:16
  Speaker 5: shut up shop in Australia. That is, in just five years,
• 19:21
  Speaker 5: we saw Australia's one third of bank branches close.
• 19:26
  Speaker 7: That's what that equates to, and more than half of
• 19:30
  Speaker 7: Australia's ATMs.
• 19:32
  Speaker 5: What is happening, not just this massive breach of privacy,
• 19:36
  Speaker 5: but these people's refusal to understand that cash is still
• 19:41
  Speaker 5: very important to people. But of course the authorities don't
• 19:45
  Speaker 5: like that because they don't know how you're spending your money,
• 19:48
  Speaker 5: when you're spending your money, where you are when you
• 19:50
  Speaker 5: spent that money, or why you've spent that money. They're
• 19:53
  Speaker 5: completely in the dark. They don't like it, and they're
• 19:57
  Speaker 5: clamping down so hard. The bank has no shame sending
• 20:01
  Speaker 5: you an email saying you've made them withdrawals? Where is
• 20:05
  Speaker 5: that cash? What are you doing with it?
• 20:07
  Speaker 7: Is it at home? Why is it at home?
• 20:10
  Speaker 5: Here was this fellow Lewis Christopher talking to Ross Greenwood
• 20:14
  Speaker 5: this afternoon on Business Now when.
• 20:17
  Speaker 8: They went into demanding to know what I'm doing with cash?
• 20:23
  Speaker 8: Have I got cash at home?
• 20:24
  Speaker 2: Have you got cash at home?
• 20:26
  Speaker 8: Like everybody else has a bit of cash at home?
• 20:28
  Speaker 8: That's right, And then to ask why I've got cash
• 20:30
  Speaker 8: at home? Yes, hang on, and it's such a security
• 20:34
  Speaker 8: risk for me and my family.
• 20:37
  Speaker 5: I'm looking after my family. We need cash on hand.
• 20:40
  Speaker 5: I mean, who among us doesn't have some cash on
• 20:43
  Speaker 5: hand in the case of emergencies. We've seen even in
• 20:45
  Speaker 5: recent months, the lines go down. There's full trop shopping
• 20:50
  Speaker 5: trolleys at Woolli's and everywhere else. People are suddenly unable
• 20:54
  Speaker 5: to buy or do any kind of transaction because they
• 20:57
  Speaker 5: don't have cash on hand.
• 20:59
  Speaker 3: The Commonwealth Bank Australia have released a statement explaining what's happened.
• 21:03
  Speaker 4: Here's their statement.
• 21:04
  Speaker 3: They said, we're required to manage our customers accounts in
• 21:07
  Speaker 3: line with the Anti Money Laundering and counter Terrorism Financing
• 21:10
  Speaker 3: Act two thousand and six, which sets out that all
• 21:13
  Speaker 3: banks operating within Australia are required to collect, verify and
• 21:17
  Speaker 3: maintain customer identification information, which Liz raises the question customer identification.
• 21:26
  Speaker 4: How does knowing the.
• 21:27
  Speaker 3: Amount of cash you've got they know who he is
• 21:29
  Speaker 3: under your mattress he's got from the bank to identify you.
• 21:33
  Speaker 3: How does the bank knowing why you gave money to
• 21:35
  Speaker 3: a particular party help them to identify you. They've gone
• 21:39
  Speaker 3: way beyond their own statement, have they not.
• 21:42
  Speaker 6: You'd imagine most blokes if they copped a call from
• 21:44
  Speaker 6: the bank and said what are you doing with all
• 21:46
  Speaker 6: this cash? You'd say, please don't tell the missus, but
• 21:48
  Speaker 6: I mean, for goodness sake, Like Ostrak, the mob that
• 21:52
  Speaker 6: drives all of this, which is a governmental department. They
• 21:56
  Speaker 6: look after all monitor financial track actions. Their remit is
• 22:01
  Speaker 6: to stop money laundering and crime and this sort of thing. Right,
• 22:05
  Speaker 6: But for as long as I can get seventeen calls
• 22:08
  Speaker 6: a day from scammers, and I drive around parts of
• 22:12
  Speaker 6: Sydney with pretty rundown houses with very expensive cars parked
• 22:17
  Speaker 6: out the front of them, presumably not from legitimate business.
• 22:21
  Speaker 6: Why are they going after a legitimate businessman who's been successful.
• 22:26
  Speaker 6: You can't tell me that there are not other things
• 22:29
  Speaker 6: that they should be doing, one hundred other things that
• 22:31
  Speaker 6: should be in line before they start calling up legitimate
• 22:35
  Speaker 6: successful people and saying, you must tell us what you
• 22:38
  Speaker 6: are doing with your money. It's no business of yours
• 22:41
  Speaker 6: what I'm doing with my money. If I want to
• 22:43
  Speaker 6: go and gamble it all the way, I'm well within
• 22:46
  Speaker 6: my rights to do that. We're talking about a legitimate businessman.
• 22:50
  Speaker 6: And yet there are people running around dealing drugs and
• 22:52
  Speaker 6: launching money and whatever all day every day, and as
• 22:56
  Speaker 6: far as I know, they're not having their bank accounts
• 22:58
  Speaker 6: frozen because they keep doing this business. But this bloke who
• 23:01
  Speaker 6: runs a legitimate business is being told NATA you'll get
• 23:04
  Speaker 6: shut down unless you tell us where the money is
• 23:07
  Speaker 6: under your bed.
• 23:08
  Speaker 2: I mean, what do you think all the.
• 23:09
  Speaker 6: Italians and Greeks of Australia are going to be doing tonight.
• 23:11
  Speaker 6: They're going to be absolutely scared out of their skin.
• 23:14
  Speaker 2: That the bank's going to come and get them. Well,
• 23:16
  Speaker 2: actually they're probably smarter than the rest of us because
• 23:18
  Speaker 2: they've already got the cash.
• 23:19
  Speaker 3: Out out of bed and they'll be okay. Well to
• 23:21
  Speaker 3: news that the Commonwealth Bank are ridiculous. The City of
• 23:24
  Speaker 3: Sydney Council has said, hold my beer, believe get your
• 23:28
  Speaker 3: head around this. They have banned festivals in council owned
• 23:33
  Speaker 3: parks around the Sydney CBD. And you know why they've
• 23:37
  Speaker 3: banned them because of climate change. They've released a statement
• 23:41
  Speaker 3: saying that the Council has noted that climate change is
• 23:44
  Speaker 3: accelerating severe weather events and increased rainfall in the lead
• 23:49
  Speaker 3: up to and during outdoor commercial events has resulted in
• 23:52
  Speaker 3: significant damage to large sections of the parks. In other words,
• 23:57
  Speaker 3: climate change is causing extra rain Sydney. The rain makes
• 24:01
  Speaker 3: the grass wet, people walk on it, it destroys the parks.
• 24:04
  Speaker 3: The solution is to have nobody walking on the grass
• 24:08
  Speaker 3: in Sydney parks for any organized events. A couple of
• 24:11
  Speaker 3: things on this quickly before Chris Mins has a word.
• 24:14
  Speaker 3: I remember Tim Flannery, who advised the government on climate change,
• 24:18
  Speaker 3: saying that Sydney would reach a point where it was
• 24:21
  Speaker 3: just an ongoing drought and the dams would be forever.
• 24:25
  Speaker 4: Dry in Sydney. That was climate change.
• 24:28
  Speaker 3: Fast forward twenty years and you've got the City of
• 24:30
  Speaker 3: Sydney saying we've got so much rain you can't walk
• 24:33
  Speaker 3: on the grass anymore. That's climate change. Chris Mins says,
• 24:37
  Speaker 3: the whole thing is just a stitch up.
• 24:41
  Speaker 9: Yeah, I think she's made a big mistake here, and these,
• 24:45
  Speaker 9: particularly closer to the city. Open spaces, night markets, noodle markets,
• 24:51
  Speaker 9: places for the community to come together are exactly what
• 24:54
  Speaker 9: big cities should be doing. I don't think it's fair
• 24:56
  Speaker 9: to say that this is just in relation to climate change.
• 24:58
  Speaker 9: It's just a massive stitch up. I think they should
• 25:00
  Speaker 9: be fair income about it if they don't want to
• 25:01
  Speaker 9: have community festivals. Did you just come out and say that?
• 25:05
  Speaker 4: But wait, there's more.
• 25:06
  Speaker 3: Not everybody is banned from using public parks owned by
• 25:10
  Speaker 3: the city council for major events. There are two groups
• 25:14
  Speaker 3: that are allowed to walk on the grass. Now can
• 25:17
  Speaker 3: you guess which groups these are? I asked a friend
• 25:21
  Speaker 3: earlier today.
• 25:22
  Speaker 4: And she got it immediately.
• 25:24
  Speaker 3: The gay and lesbian Marti gras. They are allowed to
• 25:28
  Speaker 3: use the parks for their function. And I think it's
• 25:31
  Speaker 3: pronounced Yabin festival. That's a major indigenous festival. They too
• 25:35
  Speaker 3: have been granted an accept Could you imagine if everyone
• 25:40
  Speaker 3: was allowed to use the parks except the gay festival
• 25:43
  Speaker 3: and the indigenous festival, we would all scream discrimination. But
• 25:46
  Speaker 3: when it's not another way around, Oh, that's absolutely fine.
• 25:51
  Speaker 3: I thought the city existed for the citizens, not the
• 25:54
  Speaker 3: citizens for the city.
• 25:56
  Speaker 6: You can kind of see how they might justify the
• 25:58
  Speaker 6: indigenous mob being able to because they'd say it to
• 26:00
  Speaker 6: their land anyways, they can do whatever the hell.
• 26:02
  Speaker 2: They want to do it.
• 26:03
  Speaker 6: But I didn't know that the game lesbian Mardi grad
• 26:06
  Speaker 6: were traditional loaners of the parks of Sydney.
• 26:08
  Speaker 2: But I guess you'll.
• 26:09
  Speaker 6: Learn something new every day. Maybe if they were called
• 26:11
  Speaker 6: the Mardi Grass it would be.
• 26:13
  Speaker 2: A different story.
• 26:14
  Speaker 6: But I mean, for goodness, say the idea that you
• 26:16
  Speaker 6: can't have events because it rains too much, I mean
• 26:18
  Speaker 6: we may as well just put a big bloody fence
• 26:20
  Speaker 6: around all of the parks and say no one should
• 26:23
  Speaker 6: ever go in there, because I mean, you know, all
• 26:24
  Speaker 6: the dogs running around and there they'd churning up the
• 26:27
  Speaker 6: dust and people walking around trampling.
• 26:29
  Speaker 2: All over the grass. How dare they?
• 26:31
  Speaker 6: I mean, look, if this is the problem, right, climate change,
• 26:35
  Speaker 6: I've got the solution. Just stop everyone from breathing, because
• 26:38
  Speaker 6: every time you breathe, the carbon dioxide comes out, and
• 26:41
  Speaker 6: of course it's bad for the environment, it's bad for
• 26:43
  Speaker 6: the world.
• 26:43
  Speaker 4: I think the World Economic Forum have already thought of that.
• 26:47
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I just cannot believe that they thought they'd be
• 26:50
  Speaker 6: able to get away with this, or maybe they did
• 26:52
  Speaker 6: think they'd be able to get away with this all
• 26:54
  Speaker 6: they just don't care because councils just do ridiculous stuff
• 26:57
  Speaker 6: all the time anyway, and we all just sort of rolling.
• 26:59
  Speaker 2: Oh well, they do it.
• 27:00
  Speaker 4: In Clover Bore keeps it in both back in so
• 27:04
  Speaker 4: for about one hundred five.
• 27:05
  Speaker 6: It's been there for about one hundred and fifty years.
• 27:07
  Speaker 6: I mean, I don't know how old the woman is.
• 27:09
  Speaker 6: She must be nearing two hundred by now. She's been
• 27:11
  Speaker 6: lord near for that damn long. But you know, this
• 27:13
  Speaker 6: is what happens you have major events, it trashes the park.
• 27:17
  Speaker 6: My father is a council gardener in Adelaide. The park
• 27:20
  Speaker 6: that he looks after is used for many months of
• 27:22
  Speaker 6: the year to host the Fringe festival. And the it's
• 27:25
  Speaker 6: not called the Clipsal five hundred anymore, is it. It's
• 27:28
  Speaker 6: just the Adelaide five hundred I think. But you know,
• 27:30
  Speaker 6: many months of the year they have events in there
• 27:32
  Speaker 6: and the park gets trashed and they come through and
• 27:34
  Speaker 6: fix it after it.
• 27:35
  Speaker 2: And that is the cost of doing business.
• 27:38
  Speaker 4: It's an exciting race for the supercars are on the grass.
• 27:41
  Speaker 6: I know it's all the people on the god right, okay,
• 27:43
  Speaker 6: But you know it's just the cost of doing business, right.
• 27:45
  Speaker 7: It absolutely is.
• 27:46
  Speaker 5: And as I mentioned I mentioned earlier, I was a
• 27:48
  Speaker 5: former city councilor. This is your job, community spaces, community.
• 27:53
  Speaker 2: Events, that's your job.
• 27:55
  Speaker 7: And Sydney is an international city.
• 27:57
  Speaker 5: People coming here from all around the world because we're
• 28:00
  Speaker 5: the ones with the Australian landmarks that everyone's so familiar with.
• 28:04
  Speaker 5: You come here, there's no festivals, there's no nothing except
• 28:08
  Speaker 5: for Mardi Gras, and you're born, which reminds me of
• 28:11
  Speaker 5: that time, during that little.
• 28:12
  Speaker 7: Thing called COVID, when all the rules went out the.
• 28:16
  Speaker 5: Window, when the Black Lives Matter rallies marched thousands of people,
• 28:21
  Speaker 5: the freedom fighters who tried to hold their rallies, no,
• 28:24
  Speaker 5: no crush the dissenters because COVID. Oh but if it
• 28:27
  Speaker 5: was Black Lives Matter, that was perfectly fine. Apparently COVID
• 28:31
  Speaker 5: just wasn't in play. So now we know certain events,
• 28:34
  Speaker 5: the climate change elements aren't in play either.
• 28:38
  Speaker 7: To Donald Trump now, where he's prided.
• 28:40
  Speaker 5: Himself in the past and his first term on being
• 28:43
  Speaker 5: a president of peace, and indeed we did have a
• 28:46
  Speaker 5: much more peaceful world while he was in the White House. Well,
• 28:50
  Speaker 5: he's once again earning his stripes as that president of peace.
• 28:54
  Speaker 5: He's currently in the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia signing off
• 28:58
  Speaker 5: on a two hundred and nineteen.
• 29:00
  Speaker 7: Billion dollar arms deal.
• 29:03
  Speaker 5: As officials talk up prospect of ceasefire in Gaza. He's
• 29:09
  Speaker 5: very busy on the job, and one of the first
• 29:11
  Speaker 5: things he did when addressing the Saudis was to pay
• 29:15
  Speaker 5: respect to the incredible empire that they have built.
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: And it's crucial for the wider world to note.
• 29:26
  Speaker 10: This great transformation has not come from Western intervention, no
• 29:31
  Speaker 10: ice or flying people and beautiful planes giving you lectures
• 29:37
  Speaker 10: on how to live and how to govern your own affairs.
• 29:40
  Speaker 10: The birth of a modern Middle East has been brought
• 29:43
  Speaker 10: by the people of the region themselves, the people that
• 29:46
  Speaker 10: are right here, the people that have lived here all
• 29:48
  Speaker 10: their lives, developing your own sovereign countries, pursuing your own
• 29:53
  Speaker 10: unique visions and charting your own destinies in your own way.
• 29:58
  Speaker 1: It's really incredible what you've done.
• 30:00
  Speaker 10: And in the end, the so called nation builders wrecked
• 30:04
  Speaker 10: far more nations than they built, and the interventionalists were
• 30:09
  Speaker 10: intervening in complex societies that they did.
• 30:13
  Speaker 1: Not even understand themselves.
• 30:15
  Speaker 10: They told you how to do it, but they had
• 30:16
  Speaker 10: no idea how to do it themselves. Peace, prosperity, and
• 30:20
  Speaker 10: progress ultimately came not from a radical rejection of your heritage,
• 30:26
  Speaker 10: but rather from embracing your national traditions and embracing that
• 30:30
  Speaker 10: same heritage that you love so dearly.
• 30:35
  Speaker 5: Trump strongly condemned the Westerners who have throughout history tried
• 30:40
  Speaker 5: to make Saudi Arabia their own, pillaging all those rich resources,
• 30:46
  Speaker 5: and was crediting you guys have done it yourselves. The
• 30:49
  Speaker 5: neo cons tried, the interventionalists tried. But this isn't an
• 30:53
  Speaker 5: empire built of the West. You guys did it yourself.
• 30:57
  Speaker 5: And he also talked about the prospect peace in the
• 31:01
  Speaker 5: Middle East, even with Iran.
• 31:05
  Speaker 10: Yeah, I'm here today not merely to condemn the past
• 31:08
  Speaker 10: chaos of Iran's leaders, but to offer them a new path,
• 31:12
  Speaker 10: and a much better path toward a far better and
• 31:15
  Speaker 10: more hopeful future.
• 31:18
  Speaker 1: As I've shown repeatedly, I am willing to end.
• 31:20
  Speaker 10: Past conflicts and forge new partnerships for better and more
• 31:24
  Speaker 10: stable world, even of our differences may be very profound,
• 31:28
  Speaker 10: which obviously.
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: They are in the case of Iran.
• 31:32
  Speaker 10: I have never believed in having permanent enemies. I am
• 31:36
  Speaker 10: different than a lot of people think. I don't like
• 31:39
  Speaker 10: permanent enemies. Some of the closest friends of the United
• 31:42
  Speaker 10: States of America, nations we fought wars against in generations past,
• 31:47
  Speaker 10: and now they're our friends and our allies. I want
• 31:51
  Speaker 10: to make a deal with Iran. If I can make
• 31:54
  Speaker 10: a deal with Iran, I'll be very happy. If we're
• 31:56
  Speaker 10: going to make your region and the world a safer place.
• 32:01
  Speaker 5: The whole speech was absolutely exceptional, and he finished by
• 32:05
  Speaker 5: again promising that he was going to be the president
• 32:09
  Speaker 5: of peace who would broke her as much as he
• 32:11
  Speaker 5: could in the Middle East.
• 32:14
  Speaker 10: As President of the United States, my preference.
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: Will always be for peace.
• 32:22
  Speaker 10: And partnership whenever those outcomes can be achieved.
• 32:26
  Speaker 1: Always, it's always going to be that way. Only a
• 32:29
  Speaker 1: fool would think otherwise.
• 32:31
  Speaker 7: Only a fool would think otherwise.
• 32:33
  Speaker 5: So is there any wonder that the Saudi Prince and
• 32:36
  Speaker 5: all those present gave him a standing ovation when he
• 32:39
  Speaker 5: finally finished, and his tour of the Middle East continues.
• 32:58
  Speaker 5: He's currently in Qatar, and just before that he was
• 33:02
  Speaker 5: lifting sanctions in Syria.
• 33:04
  Speaker 7: Check this out.
• 33:07
  Speaker 11: After discussing the situation with Crown Prince Muhammad and President
• 33:14
  Speaker 11: Hurdigan of Turkey, I am also ordering the cessation of
• 33:18
  Speaker 11: sanctions against Syria to give them a fresh start.
• 33:21
  Speaker 1: It gives them a chance for greatness. The sanctions were
• 33:24
  Speaker 1: really crippling, very powerful.
• 33:28
  Speaker 5: What a man, what a president, what a leader of
• 33:30
  Speaker 5: the free world. I absolutely love seeing him in action.
• 33:34
  Speaker 5: He's very genuine and he means business. And as we know,
• 33:38
  Speaker 5: war is never the way forward. And here he is saying, look,
• 33:41
  Speaker 5: even with Iran, I am I want to smoke a
• 33:44
  Speaker 5: piece pipe. I want to offer, as he called it
• 33:48
  Speaker 5: elsewhere in his speech in Olive Branch, we can make
• 33:51
  Speaker 5: this work for both entities.
• 33:53
  Speaker 7: And I'm just going to keep doing.
• 33:55
  Speaker 5: That all around the Middle East so that we can
• 33:57
  Speaker 5: once again know peace.
• 33:58
  Speaker 3: I was in a cafe in Paddington in Brisbane last
• 34:01
  Speaker 3: weekend and got talking to a woman who you can
• 34:04
  Speaker 3: guess who she votes for, but she was going off
• 34:07
  Speaker 3: on Donald Trump, and I said, specifically, what don't you
• 34:09
  Speaker 3: like about Donald Trump? She said all the wars, which
• 34:12
  Speaker 3: I thought, Wow, what has he actually I know that's
• 34:15
  Speaker 3: what she thought, so clearly she's been reading alternative media
• 34:19
  Speaker 3: that is presenting himself as a peacemaker. I just wonder though,
• 34:24
  Speaker 3: whether he's read this right, because he's betting on the
• 34:26
  Speaker 3: fact that money Trump's culture, and I don't necessarily believe
• 34:30
  Speaker 3: that money trump's culture, or more specifically, that many in
• 34:34
  Speaker 3: that region of the world will be more interested in
• 34:36
  Speaker 3: dollars than in warring against Israel. And the war against
• 34:41
  Speaker 3: Israel that we're all trying to solve is it's religiously motivated,
• 34:45
  Speaker 3: and I'm not sure that Trump making financial deals is
• 34:49
  Speaker 3: enough to overcome that religious cultural drive. We've made the
• 34:53
  Speaker 3: same mistake with China. We thought, if we can just
• 34:55
  Speaker 3: bring China into the industrial Revolution and we can get
• 34:58
  Speaker 3: them prospering, then give up their authoritarian ways and they'll
• 35:01
  Speaker 3: join the rest of the free world.
• 35:03
  Speaker 4: That was a disaster.
• 35:04
  Speaker 3: China have become one of the richest nations on earth
• 35:07
  Speaker 3: with the massive military. So I wish Trump every success,
• 35:10
  Speaker 3: but I'm not so convinced that money will Trump call it.
• 35:14
  Speaker 6: But the point is that the deep ethno religious wars
• 35:18
  Speaker 6: that occur in that region will never end. I'm here
• 35:22
  Speaker 6: to say it, they never go, to my point, in
• 35:24
  Speaker 6: some way, they will continue. So you have to make
• 35:28
  Speaker 6: a decision whether you keep intervening in the region, which
• 35:32
  Speaker 6: every time it's happened hasn't worked. I mean, look at Iraq,
• 35:35
  Speaker 6: look at Afghanistan, which of course we didn't let out
• 35:37
  Speaker 6: of there. It didn't work, and now the Taliban has
• 35:40
  Speaker 6: taken the joint back right, so our intervention has never worked.
• 35:44
  Speaker 6: So Donald Trump is simply saying, and I think he's
• 35:46
  Speaker 6: correct to say it, that we can't be the moral.
• 35:49
  Speaker 2: Arbiters of the world.
• 35:50
  Speaker 6: Of course, we try as the West to exert our
• 35:53
  Speaker 6: influence as much as we can, but every time We've
• 35:56
  Speaker 6: tried to do it militarily.
• 35:57
  Speaker 2: It hasn't worked.
• 35:59
  Speaker 6: So I'm trying the only other option we have available
• 36:01
  Speaker 6: to us, which is money and diplomacy.
• 36:04
  Speaker 2: And with Iran.
• 36:05
  Speaker 6: He said, Look, Iran can come to the table. And
• 36:08
  Speaker 6: if Iran doesn't come to the table, I'll do to
• 36:11
  Speaker 6: them what I did to them in my last term
• 36:12
  Speaker 6: as present. I'll cut off all their money. Now, of course,
• 36:15
  Speaker 6: all of that money resumed under Biden.
• 36:17
  Speaker 2: And where do you think all of that money ended up?
• 36:20
  Speaker 6: And send it up in the hands of the hooties,
• 36:22
  Speaker 6: and send it up in the hands of Hamas et cetera.
• 36:24
  Speaker 2: That has fueled the war that has been going on.
• 36:27
  Speaker 6: So Trump is simply saying what we have done to
• 36:29
  Speaker 6: this point hasn't worked. I'm going to try something else.
• 36:32
  Speaker 6: If you don't play ball, I'll cut your money off.
• 36:35
  Speaker 6: You know, given everything else hasn't worked, I don't see
• 36:37
  Speaker 6: anything bad in trying to give.
• 36:39
  Speaker 5: This a go, trying to buy These are not poor
• 36:45
  Speaker 5: countries you're talking about like this, I've got a China
• 36:48
  Speaker 5: swooping in as they do in the Pacific and try
• 36:51
  Speaker 5: in the Indo Pacific and trying to make all these
• 36:53
  Speaker 5: deals with these impoverished countries whereby it's like, haha, I've
• 36:56
  Speaker 5: got you.
• 36:56
  Speaker 7: Now you've got to do what I want. These are
• 36:59
  Speaker 7: incredible empires.
• 37:01
  Speaker 5: Saudi Arabia has thirty three million people, Iran has over
• 37:05
  Speaker 5: ninety million people. These are proud nations, homogeneous cultures, incredibly
• 37:11
  Speaker 5: strong in every single sector that you can possibly name.
• 37:15
  Speaker 5: That's what he's doing business with. I think it's incredibly smart.
• 37:19
  Speaker 5: And like you say, Caleb, the other option has it
• 37:22
  Speaker 5: never worked?
• 37:23
  Speaker 4: That's true.
• 37:24
  Speaker 3: We'll see if this one does. We'll go to a
• 37:25
  Speaker 3: break when we come back. Look at what's making news tomorrow,
• 37:28
  Speaker 3: including rumors that Lydia Thorpe might want back in with
• 37:32
  Speaker 3: the Greens.
• 37:33
  Speaker 4: That's coming up in just a moment.
• 37:40
  Speaker 3: Welcome back to the program. Let's have a look at
• 37:42
  Speaker 3: what's making headlines tomorrow. Caleb, you've got the os and
• 37:45
  Speaker 3: Lydia Thorpe is back in the news.
• 37:47
  Speaker 6: Oh my goodness, back in black. It says senior Greens
• 37:51
  Speaker 6: accused Thorpe of middling angling for return good Heaven's exclusive story.
• 37:56
  Speaker 6: He has seen your Greens figures. Believe Lydia Thorpe is
• 37:59
  Speaker 6: using it out. I've spoken Green's first Nation's faction to
• 38:02
  Speaker 6: meddle in the mind of party's policies and upcoming leadership battle,
• 38:06
  Speaker 6: claiming the far Brand defector is aying a return to
• 38:09
  Speaker 6: the Greens to cement her influence in Parliament. But Senator Thorpe,
• 38:13
  Speaker 6: who quit the party in twenty twenty three over her
• 38:15
  Speaker 6: opposition to an Indigenous voice to Parliament, emphatically denied suggestions
• 38:19
  Speaker 6: she was seeking to rejoin the Greens, arguing such claims
• 38:23
  Speaker 6: were being made in an effort to progress personal agendas
• 38:26
  Speaker 6: ahead of the party's vote on a new leader, to
• 38:28
  Speaker 6: be held on Thursday. And so the accusation is that
• 38:31
  Speaker 6: this First Nation's faction or it's not accusations true. They've
• 38:35
  Speaker 6: backed in Marine Ferruki to be leader, and they've been
• 38:38
  Speaker 6: pushing hard for it. And they're saying essentially Lydia Thorpe,
• 38:41
  Speaker 6: even though she's not a member of the Greens anymore,
• 38:43
  Speaker 6: has been a major driver of this campaign to make
• 38:47
  Speaker 6: Ferouk a member of the leader of the Greens. So
• 38:51
  Speaker 6: there's a few people quoted on the front page tomorrow
• 38:54
  Speaker 6: it says from one senior Green source, Lydia wants back
• 38:57
  Speaker 6: into the Greens. There's no secret in that that. Marcus
• 39:00
  Speaker 6: Stewart the First People's Assembly of Victoria co chair says
• 39:04
  Speaker 6: if anyone thinks Senator Thorpe has no influence inside of
• 39:07
  Speaker 6: the Greens, they are getting themselves. And Thorpe herself says
• 39:10
  Speaker 6: I have no interest in or plans to rejoin the Greens.
• 39:14
  Speaker 6: It seems those making these claims are doing so in
• 39:17
  Speaker 6: an attempt to interfere with the Greens leadership selection. It's
• 39:20
  Speaker 6: dirty and petty politicking to channel Gough Whitlam. Well, well,
• 39:26
  Speaker 6: may we say God save the Greens, because nothing will
• 39:30
  Speaker 6: save Lydia Thorpe. I mean, can you imagine if she
• 39:34
  Speaker 6: got back in with the Greens. I don't think even
• 39:36
  Speaker 6: the Greens are that stupid to ever let her back
• 39:39
  Speaker 6: in the park.
• 39:40
  Speaker 3: If her ambition is to make Marine Feriki the leader
• 39:42
  Speaker 3: of the Greens, I would wish Lydia Thorpe absolutely every success.
• 39:46
  Speaker 3: That would be the greatest thing that could happen for Australia.
• 39:49
  Speaker 4: Marie Fericki leader of the Greens. That would be the
• 39:52
  Speaker 4: end of the show.
• 39:53
  Speaker 6: Okay you say that except for the fact that they
• 39:56
  Speaker 6: have the absolute balance of power in the Senate now
• 40:00
  Speaker 6: and so for them, I understand what you say that
• 40:01
  Speaker 6: it will destroy the government whatever, but like the decisions
• 40:05
  Speaker 6: that they could legitimately make over the next three years
• 40:07
  Speaker 6: if she's run in the joint are scary.
• 40:09
  Speaker 5: We did say when Bant lost that we shouldn't crow
• 40:13
  Speaker 5: too soon because someone replacing him could be worse. And
• 40:17
  Speaker 5: if we do indeed end up with Marine Farookie at
• 40:20
  Speaker 5: the home of the Greens, which, like Caleb said, has
• 40:23
  Speaker 5: the balance of power in the Senate, we my friends
• 40:26
  Speaker 5: are screwed.
• 40:28
  Speaker 3: Susan there would be prime minister three years from now
• 40:30
  Speaker 3: that it would happen.
• 40:32
  Speaker 4: Do I think it's a great plan.
• 40:33
  Speaker 6: Wishful things and speaking of things that should have won
• 40:38
  Speaker 6: the coalition government. I don't know why they didn't talk
• 40:40
  Speaker 6: about this much during the election campaign. Maybe they thought it,
• 40:44
  Speaker 6: you know, it would just come across as though it
• 40:46
  Speaker 6: were an issue that pandered to rich people. But it's not,
• 40:49
  Speaker 6: and I'll explain why in a minute. Headline is Labour's
• 40:51
  Speaker 6: hidden tramp Charmers seeks unrealized political gains. Superannuans have discovered
• 40:56
  Speaker 6: a hidden trap in Labour's planned unrealized capital gains tax.
• 41:00
  Speaker 6: With a former chairman of Forestry Tasmania and My State Bank,
• 41:03
  Speaker 6: Miles Hampton, saying he faces a hit on recovering value
• 41:07
  Speaker 6: of assets that hooked losses booked losses, sorry before July one,
• 41:12
  Speaker 6: when the tax is to begin. The album easy government
• 41:15
  Speaker 6: is seeking to use its majority election win and the
• 41:17
  Speaker 6: Greens depleted status in Parliament to ram through a new
• 41:21
  Speaker 6: tax on unrealized capital gains, beginning with superannuation funds worth
• 41:25
  Speaker 6: more than three million dollars without indexation. Now, of course,
• 41:29
  Speaker 6: what they're saying now is that if you have assets
• 41:33
  Speaker 6: within your super fund and you're over the three million limit.
• 41:36
  Speaker 2: Of course, when Trump brought in all.
• 41:38
  Speaker 6: The tariffs, the value of your stocks went down overnight
• 41:42
  Speaker 6: quite significantly. But those stocks are now starting to make
• 41:46
  Speaker 6: their way back up again. So when this tax kicks
• 41:49
  Speaker 6: in on July one, they will call the recovery of
• 41:53
  Speaker 6: your stocks to where they were a capital gain and
• 41:57
  Speaker 6: they will tax you on that.
• 41:59
  Speaker 2: Before, of course, you've cashed in the stock.
• 42:01
  Speaker 6: And this is the problem with taxing unrealized capital gains.
• 42:05
  Speaker 6: You are taxing something that doesn't exist.
• 42:08
  Speaker 2: And so what we're saying is you.
• 42:09
  Speaker 6: Can be taxed on the fluctuations of the market, which
• 42:12
  Speaker 6: is exactly what they're going to do, and they'll call
• 42:14
  Speaker 6: that a capital gain even though you've had no capital
• 42:18
  Speaker 6: gain because you haven't cashed in the stock and turned
• 42:21
  Speaker 6: it into money. And they say, this is about people,
• 42:24
  Speaker 6: you know, with three million dollars in their super which
• 42:26
  Speaker 6: is what is at one point eight million people at
• 42:28
  Speaker 6: the moment. But one of the senior bankers at AMP
• 42:32
  Speaker 6: I think it was, did the modeling just a few
• 42:35
  Speaker 6: weeks ago and worked out that a twenty two year
• 42:38
  Speaker 6: old today who stays on the average wage for the
• 42:43
  Speaker 6: rest of their life, will have three million dollars in
• 42:46
  Speaker 6: their super account by the time there's sixty four so
• 42:49
  Speaker 6: before retirement age, simply by staying on the average wage.
• 42:54
  Speaker 6: And of course this tax is not indexed, so within
• 42:58
  Speaker 6: a generation every one will be text on unrealized capital
• 43:02
  Speaker 6: gains in this super.
• 43:03
  Speaker 3: You asked at the top, why didn't the coalition make
• 43:05
  Speaker 3: an issue of this in the election campaign, And that
• 43:08
  Speaker 3: question was actually asked during the campaign and they said, well,
• 43:11
  Speaker 3: many of the people with that much money in their
• 43:13
  Speaker 3: super are in inner city seats to your seats, and
• 43:15
  Speaker 3: the issue just hadn't come up. But it's one point
• 43:18
  Speaker 3: eight million people affected. They should have made it an issue.
• 43:22
  Speaker 5: That alone would turn votes absolutely, so them saying, oh,
• 43:26
  Speaker 5: the vas majority of those wealthy people in our seats anyway, Yeah,
• 43:31
  Speaker 5: those are the seats that you're trying to get back.
• 43:33
  Speaker 5: Why didn't you talk about it day and night until
• 43:36
  Speaker 5: the polling booths opened? Good grief, just in another obvious
• 43:42
  Speaker 5: win that they didn't even shoot for, to the front
• 43:46
  Speaker 5: page of the Daily Telegraph. Now accused of seventeen break
• 43:49
  Speaker 5: ins in six days. But if your thought he'd be
• 43:52
  Speaker 5: locked up again, think locked up.
• 43:55
  Speaker 7: Rather think again. Bailed.
• 43:58
  Speaker 5: A teenager hit with a staggering seventeen aggravated breaking enter
• 44:03
  Speaker 5: chargers after an alleged sixty crime spray across Sydney has
• 44:08
  Speaker 5: been released from custody in what has been labeled the
• 44:11
  Speaker 5: state's latest bail fail. Realtigue allegedly committed a string of
• 44:16
  Speaker 5: shop break ins and midnight home invasions with a group
• 44:20
  Speaker 5: of friends in late January, just two weeks after his
• 44:23
  Speaker 5: eighteenth birthday. It is alleged the group stole luxury cars
• 44:27
  Speaker 5: from family homes, including a Mercedes owned by celebrity skin Queen.
• 44:32
  Speaker 7: Well, it doesn't really matter who it was owned by.
• 44:34
  Speaker 7: Good Grief.
• 44:36
  Speaker 5: This is just again, every time bail laws came up,
• 44:39
  Speaker 5: a come up, I say exactly the same thing. Bail
• 44:42
  Speaker 5: laws in every state and territory I learnt this first
• 44:46
  Speaker 5: semester in law school are just a burning dumpster fire.
• 44:49
  Speaker 7: They are absolutely hopeless.
• 44:52
  Speaker 5: How on earth did his defendant argue that he wasn't
• 44:56
  Speaker 5: at risk of reoffending after a six day crime spree
• 45:02
  Speaker 5: allegedly allegedly the extent of which is what I just described.
• 45:08
  Speaker 5: You honestly think, oh no, no, he's a good boy. Now,
• 45:11
  Speaker 5: there's no risk to the cause.
• 45:12
  Speaker 3: If we want to change this, The problem with this
• 45:14
  Speaker 3: article is we find out the name of the accused,
• 45:17
  Speaker 3: and we've got a photo of the accused.
• 45:19
  Speaker 4: That's not the issue here.
• 45:20
  Speaker 3: We should have the name of the judge and a
• 45:22
  Speaker 3: photo of the judge who approved bail. Then we'd start
• 45:25
  Speaker 3: to get some change. If you publicly make a show
• 45:28
  Speaker 3: of the people who are making these ridiculous decisions. Let's
• 45:30
  Speaker 3: go the front page of the Gold Coast Bulletin one
• 45:33
  Speaker 3: hundred and ten thousand dollars graffiti spend by city to
• 45:37
  Speaker 3: teenagers are be excited about this. The Gold Coast City
• 45:39
  Speaker 3: Council will spend one hundred and ten grand on getting
• 45:41
  Speaker 3: graffiti art not off Pacific boat away bridges but onto
• 45:46
  Speaker 3: it and buildings, despite opposition from multiple councilors, including one
• 45:50
  Speaker 3: calling it vandalism. We shouldn't be allocating rate payer money
• 45:53
  Speaker 3: to facilitate the vandalism of our public spaces, to which
• 45:57
  Speaker 3: I would say, here here, although Caleb, maybe one person's
• 46:01
  Speaker 3: graffiti is another person's Mona Lisa.
• 46:03
  Speaker 2: Oh Rabbish, it's not art. It's a visual assault.
• 46:07
  Speaker 6: And this is this is deliberate. It is absolutely deliberate.
• 46:11
  Speaker 6: Read Sir Roger Scrutin's work on esthetics and the purpose
• 46:15
  Speaker 6: of art in the world and why it has been removed.
• 46:18
  Speaker 2: It's been removed.
• 46:19
  Speaker 6: Good art has been removed to make us miserable, and
• 46:22
  Speaker 6: I tell you what it's doing the job, Rall.
• 46:24
  Speaker 3: The drive from Brisbane of the Gold Coast is already
• 46:25
  Speaker 3: miserable enough without having a little bit graffiti.
• 46:28
  Speaker 4: As you do it.
• 46:29
  Speaker 3: When we come back, a couple trying to sell their
• 46:31
  Speaker 3: home suddenly discover it used to belong to the man
• 46:34
  Speaker 3: who's now the pope, and that changes.
• 46:37
  Speaker 4: Everything that's coming up In just a moment.
• 46:40
  Speaker 3: Well, a Chicago couple are trying to sell a house
• 46:42
  Speaker 3: and ended up winning the lottery. Paul Radzik and his
• 46:45
  Speaker 3: wife had a practice of buying and selling, buying and
• 46:48
  Speaker 3: selling homes in a bid to get ahead, and they
• 46:51
  Speaker 3: bought a pretty nondescript three bedroom home in Chicago, thinking
• 46:54
  Speaker 3: we'll put it on the market, and I think they
• 46:56
  Speaker 3: put it on salf for two hundred thousand US dollars.
• 46:59
  Speaker 4: You can see there. It's not much of a house.
• 47:01
  Speaker 3: But they thought we'll sell it and make a small profit. Well,
• 47:04
  Speaker 3: last weekend their real estate agent rang them and said, hey,
• 47:08
  Speaker 3: did you know that house used to belong to a
• 47:10
  Speaker 3: Catholic priest in Chicago called Robert Prevost. They said, no,
• 47:15
  Speaker 3: we've never heard of him. Well have you heard of
• 47:16
  Speaker 3: Pope Leo the fourteenth? Because Robert has just become the Pope?
• 47:21
  Speaker 3: You are trying to sell the home formerly belonging to
• 47:24
  Speaker 3: the now pope, the leader of over a billion Catholics. Well,
• 47:28
  Speaker 3: they immediately had four offers, but they were smart. They
• 47:30
  Speaker 3: took the house straight off the market. And now they're
• 47:33
  Speaker 3: trying to decide whether they will jack the price right up.
• 47:36
  Speaker 4: Can you believe this?
• 47:37
  Speaker 3: They've been accused of price cow gym people in Chicago.
• 47:41
  Speaker 3: Or if they don't sell it, they're going to convert
• 47:44
  Speaker 3: it into a museum and make a mon that way
• 47:47
  Speaker 3: would either way, they're not selling a house so much
• 47:50
  Speaker 3: as they have won the lottery.
• 47:52
  Speaker 6: Why would the fact the Pope lived in there make
• 47:54
  Speaker 6: it any more valuable?
• 47:55
  Speaker 2: I mean, look, does it mean.
• 47:56
  Speaker 6: That you're going to get a ticket to heaven less
• 47:58
  Speaker 6: if you live in the house?
• 48:00
  Speaker 2: What is there actually decayed? Other than to say the
• 48:02
  Speaker 2: Pope used to live in this house?
• 48:04
  Speaker 5: Absolutely people pay top dollar for like if they're a
• 48:07
  Speaker 5: movie star used to live here or oh, William Shakespeare
• 48:11
  Speaker 5: one Tata meal here. People play top dollar for that
• 48:15
  Speaker 5: kind of thing throughout the world.
• 48:17
  Speaker 2: Wait until I sell my unit Bond used to live here.
• 48:21
  Speaker 4: That's called depreciation to go.
• 48:24
  Speaker 7: Well, Sydney snow.
• 48:26
  Speaker 5: Have you ever imagined that an anonymous Instagram user who
• 48:30
  Speaker 5: calls himself Unwritten Stories has decided to use AI to
• 48:35
  Speaker 5: depict a snowy Sydney and this footage has delighted tens
• 48:40
  Speaker 5: of thousands of people on Instagram. So we thought we'd
• 48:44
  Speaker 5: show it to you tonight and see what you thought.
• 49:05
  Speaker 7: No, I don't like it. I don't like it.
• 49:08
  Speaker 2: Everyone else can enjoy it.
• 49:09
  Speaker 7: I'm not a fan.
• 49:10
  Speaker 6: Why's the big man at Luna Park? Got so much
• 49:13
  Speaker 6: white stuff on his face.
• 49:14
  Speaker 2: That's all from us.
• 49:15
  Speaker 4: Good Night,