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NFC West Betting Preview · The Favorites Sports Betting Podcast

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  Speaker 1: Welcome to The Favorites, the podcast presented by Beat three
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  Speaker 1: six five. We are part of the Action Network. I
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  Speaker 1: am Chadmillman, Chief Content Officer of the Action Network. We
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  Speaker 1: are beginning our series of division previews for the next
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  Speaker 1: eight episodes. Every Tuesday, every Thursday, we are going we
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  Speaker 1: are all Football from now until the end of the
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  Speaker 1: Super Bowl. Come the first Sunday of the NFL season,
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  Speaker 1: we will be going Tuesday, Thursday Sunday. Me and my bff,
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  Speaker 1: my companion, my Campodrey Professional Better, Simon Hunter Eado.
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  Speaker 2: So, ii'mon Hello, hotcha? How are we doing? Brother? Dude?
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  Speaker 1: You don't sound good.
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  Speaker 2: I'm good. I'm in Hawaii. I'm living the dream man.
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  Speaker 1: Well, did you have any nightmares last night?
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  Speaker 2: Why do you want to talk about this? People don't
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  Speaker 2: want to hear about my short.
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  Speaker 1: They do because it's freaky and it's and because when
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  Speaker 1: you said it, and you'll explain it, Matt Mitchell said,
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  Speaker 1: what happens to him, and these things have never happened
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  Speaker 1: to me.
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  Speaker 2: You've you've never been abducted by aliens.
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  Speaker 1: Chad, Well, that's different than what happened to you.
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  Speaker 2: Apparently it's not. That's what I look up sleep paralysis,
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  Speaker 2: and that's a lot of people recurring things. They get abducted. Luckily,
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  Speaker 2: I've never been abducted. But yeah, Chad's referring to I
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  Speaker 2: have this weird thing where I'll wake up. I'm still asleep,
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  Speaker 2: but I think I'm awake and you see stuff, which
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  Speaker 2: is what Chad's referring to. And I, unfortunately, I have
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  Speaker 2: a fear of spiders. I know, it's probably the least
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  Speaker 2: mainly thing. I'm actually getting better. I'll say this off
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  Speaker 2: the top. I'm getting better at it. But I'm in Hawaii,
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  Speaker 2: and if you don't know, there are just massive insects
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  Speaker 2: here and it's weird. The number one thing I'm scared
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  Speaker 2: of here is centi petees. I don't know if you've
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  Speaker 2: ever read about the Hawaiian Senate Peachad, but it is
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  Speaker 2: a little bastard. If it bites or stings you, it hurt.
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  Speaker 2: It's like a mother. And they're about six to seven
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  Speaker 2: inches long, so they're pretty damn big. But that's besides
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  Speaker 2: the pointy. I basically rolled over and I saw a
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  Speaker 2: giant spider on my wall. So in a true manly fashion,
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  Speaker 2: sprinted out of the bedroom, closed the door, behind me,
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  Speaker 2: and it took me about an hour to get the
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  Speaker 2: courage to go back into said room with uh basically
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  Speaker 2: like a spray to kill the spider. I couldn't find it,
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  Speaker 2: and that's when I realized I probably just made it
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  Speaker 2: up in my own dream. So I went to bed
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  Speaker 2: at I would say, one am after the Women's World
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  Speaker 2: Cup ended, and I woke up at five am, so
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  Speaker 2: you know, and I saw four hours of sleep before
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  Speaker 2: joining you on this lovely podcast.
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  Speaker 3: You know what I love.
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  Speaker 1: I love how you share your vulnerabilities on the show
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  Speaker 1: because you are you are the opposite of someone. You
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  Speaker 1: are like six ' three and you are strong, and
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  Speaker 1: you're a professional better who like that is a hard
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  Speaker 1: job and it can be a scary job, and yet
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  Speaker 1: you're still willing to come on and talk about love one,
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  Speaker 1: love lost, fear of spiders, your Pikachu cards.
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  Speaker 2: That's beautiful, that's true. Yeah, I don't know. I told you.
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  Speaker 2: I think the scariest part of my job will always
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  Speaker 2: be handling a lot of cash, Like going with a
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  Speaker 2: lot of cashwy sportsbook will always be the scariest. I'd
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  Speaker 2: rather do that a million times over than you even
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  Speaker 2: have to deal with one little Spider. So I'll let
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  Speaker 2: you let's let you know, is hight I stand where
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  Speaker 2: I'm at with Spider's ched.
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  Speaker 1: Well, well, you know what's not scary thinking about talking
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  Speaker 1: to our very good friend, friend of the show, former
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  Speaker 1: Action Network colleague, new betting analyst for Matthew Berry's Fantasy Life.
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  Speaker 1: I get the newsletter. It's really good. I'm excited that
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  Speaker 1: Matthew Friedman is going to be coming on the show,
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  Speaker 1: and we're going to preview the NFC West. It's going
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  Speaker 1: to be the first division preview we're doing. As a reminder,
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  Speaker 1: Matthew Friedman. I feel like you were just on the
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  Speaker 1: show before we could announce that you were officially joined
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  Speaker 1: Fantasy Life. Now you have joined. Tell us how great
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  Speaker 1: it is. Tell us everything you're going to be doing,
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  Speaker 1: tell us how awesome Matthew Berry is as a boss.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, the best boss I've ever had, without question.
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  Speaker 1: See I knew and will you.
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  Speaker 2: Set me up?
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  Speaker 3: It's like you wanted me to go there, Chad, Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: you know we are longtime nemeses, you and I. And
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  Speaker 3: so even though I would say that I don't really
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  Speaker 3: carry that mantle anymore, whenever I come back on the show,
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  Speaker 3: I feel the need to assume that role just to
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  Speaker 3: just to make sure I don't disappoint you more than
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  Speaker 3: more than anything else, I feel like you want me
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  Speaker 3: to come on the show and still like maintain my
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  Speaker 3: hatred edge.
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  Speaker 1: You're underestimating my continued annoyance of you and disappointment and hatred.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, well that's fine In some ways. I feel like
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  Speaker 3: even that is still on brand and within keeping of
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  Speaker 3: what you would expect. But yeah, everything is great at
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  Speaker 3: Fantasy Life. I am working on a series long series
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  Speaker 3: of articles, thirty two articles breaking down all the different
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  Speaker 3: teams from a betting perspective entering the season, so ranking
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  Speaker 3: all of their different units, the individual units power ratings
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  Speaker 3: for all the team's projections for the teams win total projections,
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  Speaker 3: projecting the fifty three man rosters for all of the teams,
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  Speaker 3: with notes on literally every player players on the borderline
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  Speaker 3: as well. So it is a beefy process. I feel
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  Speaker 3: like I'm climbing up Everest doing it. But it is
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  Speaker 3: the most fun I've had in years. So absolutely thrilled
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  Speaker 3: to be in this position.
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  Speaker 1: The most fun you've had, and say, exactly two years
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  Speaker 1: since you left the Action Network, but that was the
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  Speaker 1: most fun you had had until this time.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know if we need to contextualize it within
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  Speaker 3: that timeframe. You know, I would just say the most
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  Speaker 3: fun I've had in years.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, Well, I'm looking forward to getting a full debriefing
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  Speaker 1: on the ways in which Matthew Berry is a better
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  Speaker 1: boss than me. But until then, we got to break
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  Speaker 1: down the NFC West, the Niners, the Seahawks, the Rams,
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  Speaker 1: the Cardinals. There are question marks all over this freaking division.
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  Speaker 1: Here's how we're going to start quarterback quarterback quarterback because
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  Speaker 1: right now we don't know Kyler Murray's status, we don't
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  Speaker 1: know Matthew Stafford's status. We're hoping Brock Purty is ready
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  Speaker 1: to go, but like, other than that, it's only Geno Davis,
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  Speaker 1: and I mean Geno Smith and the Seahawks, who we
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  Speaker 1: know for a fact who their quarterback is. Friedman. How
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  Speaker 1: are we handicapping this?
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  Speaker 3: I'm going to assume that Matthew Stafford is close to
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  Speaker 3: the Matthew Stafford that we saw in twenty twenty one.
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  Speaker 3: That you know, what we saw last year was a
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  Speaker 3: guy who you know, had arm issues. He's rested. Now
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  Speaker 3: he comes back. The question is can you stay healthy?
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  Speaker 3: But I think at the beginning of the season he's
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  Speaker 3: fairly close to twenty twenty one Matthew Stafford brock Perty.
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  Speaker 3: I think, you know, the main question with him is
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  Speaker 3: not so much the elbow stuff, because he's already returned
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  Speaker 3: to action. You know, he's somewhat limited two days on,
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  Speaker 3: one day off, but it's a very positive step that
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  Speaker 3: he's already out on the field, taking snaps, going through
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  Speaker 3: his reads, doing all of the stuff. Like the days
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  Speaker 3: that he's on, he's fully on, so that is very
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  Speaker 3: encouraging for him. I think the question isn't so much
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  Speaker 3: is he going to be the Week one starter, but
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  Speaker 3: is he going to be the guy that we saw
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  Speaker 3: the first seven games? That he started last year when
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  Speaker 3: he was healthy. Now, Like, on the one hand, he's
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  Speaker 3: a seventh rounder, like mister irrelevant, you have to have
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  Speaker 3: a pretty like low baseline. But he's in an offense
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  Speaker 3: that has made other quarterbacks look like fantastic players. He's
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  Speaker 3: got playmakers around him, and what he did last year
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  Speaker 3: was super impressive. So we have to take that like
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  Speaker 3: and balance it with the fact that he's a seventh rounder.
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  Speaker 3: So Perty is really intriguing to me. Kyler Murray. I
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  Speaker 3: wouldn't say like I'm riding off for the season, but
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  Speaker 3: you know, there's a chance he doesn't play another snap
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  Speaker 3: for the Cardinals. But Perty, if he's healthy, which it
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  Speaker 3: looks like he's trending in that direction, I think he's
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  Speaker 3: enough for the rest of that San Francisco team to
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  Speaker 3: be a strong contender in the NFC.
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  Speaker 1: All Right, I feel like you are, Simon. I want
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  Speaker 1: your take on this. But Frieman just described Perty as
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  Speaker 1: a mister irrelevant seventh rounder just enough. That is not
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  Speaker 1: the party who we saw playing for the Niners last
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  Speaker 1: year before or he was injured in that Eagles game.
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  Speaker 1: The party we saw playing was making plays, was winning games.
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  Speaker 1: He wasn't just managing games so square for me, your
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  Speaker 1: opinion of Party right now versus what Friedman is describing,
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  Speaker 1: which is essentially trentolf I.
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  Speaker 2: Mean that's what he is. It feels like Party is
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  Speaker 2: that ex girlfriend with all those red flags, but you're like,
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  Speaker 2: well that one time she was really nice to me
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  Speaker 2: and took care of me when I was sick. That
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  Speaker 2: feels like what brock Purty is, where it's like, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: he had that incredible run, but we kind of saw
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  Speaker 2: who he was right when the defense is really prepared
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  Speaker 2: for him in the playoffs, Like it's just there's a
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  Speaker 2: reason he was a seventh round prick. And I love
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  Speaker 2: what Shanahan's doing, which is he's given the guy his loyalty.
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  Speaker 2: I being, well, we just what's Freeman just talked about.
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  Speaker 2: It's like this guy got us to that point. He
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  Speaker 2: deserves to be the starter. Man. That's a tough pill
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  Speaker 2: to swallow when they've invested so much into Trey Lance, right,
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  Speaker 2: They've get they gave a multiple first round picks, they
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  Speaker 2: moved up in a draft to take this kid, and
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  Speaker 2: now they're what showcasing him to trade them. It feels
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  Speaker 2: like that's kind of what they're doing. Here right because
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  Speaker 2: they're already saying Purdy is the guy. They're giving them
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  Speaker 2: all first team reps right now. So to me, I
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  Speaker 2: don't like the mojo, Chad. This is one of these
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  Speaker 2: things I'm gonna knock on the forty nine ers right now.
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  Speaker 2: I don't really like what I'm feeling or hearing out
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  Speaker 2: of camp with this. But to me, he's Shanahan's in
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  Speaker 2: a great position. He's got three quarterbacks that he likes.
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  Speaker 2: So he likes Purty, he likes Trey Lance, he likes
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  Speaker 2: Sam Darnold. That's a good spot to be in because
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  Speaker 2: I don't know if this pretty thing is gonna work out.
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  Speaker 2: Like he's coming back, so again, Chad just talked about
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  Speaker 2: that he was a seventh round pick and he's coming
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  Speaker 2: off a major injury surgery. Right he had Tommy John
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  Speaker 2: surgery fixed his elbow. That's a big deal. Like, the
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  Speaker 2: guy didn't have any offseason programs. Now he's getting thrown
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  Speaker 2: right in with the first team offense, and you can
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  Speaker 2: go through it. He's been terrible since he's been back.
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  Speaker 2: He's had multiple fumbles, he's throwing multiple interceptions, he's been
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  Speaker 2: sacked a bunch, and there's just This is just their practices, right,
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  Speaker 2: This is Red Jersey practices. So I would say, not
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  Speaker 2: a big deal. All right, it's August first, not that
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  Speaker 2: big of a deal. If it keeps being this way
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  Speaker 2: the next two weeks, I really do think they'll have
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  Speaker 2: to make a Trey Lance or Sam Darnold move. Lloyda
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  Speaker 2: Teak only goes so far. We have a team like
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  Speaker 2: this with forty nine or so right now. Brock Pretty
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  Speaker 2: is rusty, so I'll give him the benefit of the doubt,
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  Speaker 2: but I don't like it. I don't like that they're
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  Speaker 2: committing so much of this kid that seems to me
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  Speaker 2: like he was just a flash in the pan. I
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  Speaker 2: don't know if he really as legit as he seemed
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  Speaker 2: like he was last year.
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  Speaker 3: I have two thoughts here, if I could, if I
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  Speaker 3: could jump in, so they're kind of divergent in thoughts.
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  Speaker 3: So the first has to do with Trey Lance and
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  Speaker 3: that a year ago he was a hot, long shot
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  Speaker 3: MVP ticket and it made sense. You think of Trey
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  Speaker 3: Lance with all of the raw talent that he has
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  Speaker 3: within that offense, what he was able to do in
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  Speaker 3: college now, granted like it was going to be super raw,
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  Speaker 3: but if things worked out. You could see how he's
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  Speaker 3: the quarterback on a team that's the number one seed
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  Speaker 3: in the NFC and he does enough to win the MVP.
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  Speaker 3: You could see that. I don't know why we would
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  Speaker 3: assume that because he didn't play all that well in
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  Speaker 3: a monsoon in Chicago in Week one and then was
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  Speaker 3: injured in Week two, that all of a sudden, all
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  Speaker 3: of the potential he had just a year ago, is
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  Speaker 3: all of a sudden gone. Now. It's not encouraging that
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  Speaker 3: Shanahan doesn't seem to be as invested in Lance as
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  Speaker 3: he was a year ago, and so that I think
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  Speaker 3: carries some signal, But there is still great potential in
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  Speaker 3: Trey Lance.
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  Speaker 2: Now.
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  Speaker 3: The other thing, and this sort of goes against what
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  Speaker 3: I just said, is that Rock Purty, like one of
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  Speaker 3: the most intriguing bets to me that I've made this
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  Speaker 3: offseason was brock Purty seventy five to one to win MVP,
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  Speaker 3: because it's basically the same thesis as what we had
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  Speaker 3: with Trey Lance last year, minus like the draft capital.
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  Speaker 3: But when brock Party was on the field last year,
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  Speaker 3: he was number one in a number of efficiency metrics.
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  Speaker 3: So if he returns and he's healthy and he's the
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  Speaker 3: starter all year, and you have a forty team with
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  Speaker 3: a great defense that ends up getting the number one
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  Speaker 3: seed in the NFC. He's got the narrative to be
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  Speaker 3: able to carry him from mister irrelevant to MVP. So like,
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  Speaker 3: I don't think Lance is totally dead. And if he
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  Speaker 3: ended up becoming the starter, I think he would outperform expectations.
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  Speaker 3: But if perty's the Week one starter and he keeps
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  Speaker 3: that job, like there could be a lot of steam
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  Speaker 3: that carries him.
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  Speaker 1: The forty nine Ers right now are minus one seventy
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  Speaker 1: five to win the division. Their season win total is
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  Speaker 1: at eleven and a half. Simon start with the season
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  Speaker 1: win total. Are you over or under the eleven and
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  Speaker 1: a half wins for the Niners with a dominant defense
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  Speaker 1: and a potentially serviceable quarterback and really good offensive weapons
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  Speaker 1: to win twelve of seventeen games?
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  Speaker 2: Regression just another team that's an easy bet for regression,
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  Speaker 2: Like across the board, do you really think McCaffrey's gonna
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  Speaker 2: stay fully healthy again for the full season. Probably not.
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  Speaker 2: Do you really think their defense is gonna be as
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  Speaker 2: healthy as they were for the full season? Probably not.
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  Speaker 2: Do you think they're having a cupcaps. They had a
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  Speaker 2: really easy schedule last year. You think that's gonna happen again.
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  Speaker 2: I don't think so. I've gone through their schedule. It's
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  Speaker 2: gonna be tougher. Yes, Arizona will be layups, but I
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  Speaker 2: think Stafford and that Rams team is gonna be better.
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  Speaker 2: I think the Seahawks they played them tough last year.
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  Speaker 2: I think the same thing where that division, it's just
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  Speaker 2: not gonna be a cake walk that it was last year.
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  Speaker 2: I think both times they played the Seahawks, they absolutely
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  Speaker 2: blew them, noun dominated them. I just don't see it
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  Speaker 2: being that way, especially now they lost their defensive coordinator.
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  Speaker 2: He's now the head coach down in Houston. So you know,
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  Speaker 2: I wish I'd come here and just say it's all
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  Speaker 2: roses for this fortynin Ers team. I got them at
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  Speaker 2: ten point four wins, so I have them, you know,
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  Speaker 2: just take away the four that's at ten wins, that's
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  Speaker 2: where I'm an average. I'm at, that's under a one
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  Speaker 2: point five wins for their their win total where they're at,
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  Speaker 2: So to me, it's not shocking that they're a plus
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  Speaker 2: number right now to the over right, I think on
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  Speaker 2: bet three, six five. It is plus one thirty five
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  Speaker 2: to take the over eleven and a half. That's that's
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  Speaker 2: a trap. That really stinks. That just shows you all
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  Speaker 2: the professional money's coming on the under, just because we're
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  Speaker 2: playing the history of the league, the league the same thing.
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  Speaker 2: We're gonna talk about egos going way down in the future.
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  Speaker 2: It's just teams that have a lot of success of
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  Speaker 2: the previous year. A lot is built into a lot
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  Speaker 2: of that is health. A lot of it depends on health.
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  Speaker 2: And we've seen it with Shannon's teams. He's a he
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  Speaker 2: saw kind of a coach, like they'll make it to
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  Speaker 2: the super Bowl next year they go fourth in the
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  Speaker 2: division or third in the division. It's just the way
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  Speaker 2: the four and a Arrows have been, I mean the
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  Speaker 2: last decade. So looking at this team, I still think
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  Speaker 2: they're probably the number two team in the NFC right.
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  Speaker 2: They have so much talent across the board. If they
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  Speaker 2: can stay healthy and if Brock can come in and
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  Speaker 2: be what he was last year, I have no doubt
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  Speaker 2: they'll cross this eleven and a half number. But if
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  Speaker 2: you're betting off a model, no model is gonna tell
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  Speaker 2: you to take this over. It's just a bad number.
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  Speaker 2: It's just a public number two like the books. I'm
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  Speaker 2: shocked them and dropped to eleven. I guess they know
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  Speaker 2: there's not enough people. I bet that plus number eleven
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  Speaker 2: a half to take the over. So to me, it's
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  Speaker 2: it's a good number. Ten and seven, eleven and six.
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  Speaker 2: That's right where the forty nine ers are probably gonna
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  Speaker 2: fish this year. So I'm happy to take that under Chad.
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  Speaker 1: Well, that's what's interesting about quick hold on Free Minutes
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  Speaker 1: my podcast.
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  Speaker 3: I'll stop continue continue.
• 17:21
  Speaker 1: What I was going to say about the Niners before
• 17:22
  Speaker 1: Freeman went off. You know, I got Matthew Berry as
• 17:25
  Speaker 1: a boss, so I can interrupt anybody on me is
• 17:29
  Speaker 1: that they normally do regress because they go through these
• 17:32
  Speaker 1: years of terrible injuries and then last year Trey Lance,
• 17:37
  Speaker 1: Jimmy g Purty both I think was hurt for parts
• 17:40
  Speaker 1: of the year like they Samuel was hurt for parts
• 17:44
  Speaker 1: of the year. They were certainly imperfect with their biggest
• 17:47
  Speaker 1: with their biggest players, and still outperformed at every level,
• 17:51
  Speaker 1: which is why, by the way, Shanahan gets grouped with
• 17:55
  Speaker 1: every other coach in the NFL as like at the top,
• 17:59
  Speaker 1: top tier, it's because he's such a wizard with what
• 18:02
  Speaker 1: he does with his players and his lineups and his rosters.
• 18:06
  Speaker 1: So it's hard to bet against the Niners at eleven
• 18:12
  Speaker 1: and a half. I know what you're saying, but if
• 18:16
  Speaker 1: you're going to be the second best team in the East,
• 18:20
  Speaker 1: you're getting the twelve wins.
• 18:22
  Speaker 3: Freeman, go ahead, i'ven projected for ten point seven. So
• 18:26
  Speaker 3: I'm right there with Simon in that ballpark of where
• 18:28
  Speaker 3: they're going to finish.
• 18:31
  Speaker 1: Is that what you're going to say?
• 18:32
  Speaker 3: Yes, that's exactly what I was going to say.
• 18:36
  Speaker 1: All right, I do want to talk about the Rams.
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: I want to skip over the Seahawks for a second
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: because Freeman, you just talked about Matthew Stafford being healthy
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: and play into twenty twenty one levels if he's able
• 18:51
  Speaker 1: to maintain his health. Simon has been beating the drama
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: on the Rams. Their season win total is six and
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: a half. They're plus nine hundred rid to win the
• 19:01
  Speaker 1: division right now, Like you're not going to bet the
• 19:06
  Speaker 1: Niners at minus one seventy five, you're not going to
• 19:09
  Speaker 1: bet the Niners to go over eleven and a half.
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: Or shouldn't we be going all in on the Rams? Simon,
• 19:17
  Speaker 1: you first at plus nine hundred and over six and
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: a half.
• 19:21
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I didn't want to stop you, Chet because I
• 19:22
  Speaker 2: respect you that much. When you said Stafford, you're unsure
• 19:25
  Speaker 2: about him, what's there to be unsure about the man?
• 19:28
  Speaker 2: His man has been in camp, he did the off
• 19:29
  Speaker 2: season program. He took one rest day yesterday and that
• 19:32
  Speaker 2: was apparently a scheduled rest day, that's what McVeigh said,
• 19:36
  Speaker 2: and he won't be taking any more days off the
• 19:37
  Speaker 2: rest of preseason. So to me, Stafford, again, guys can
• 19:41
  Speaker 2: lie and they can bs, but he looks healthy. He's
• 19:44
  Speaker 2: been talking to meet. He said, this is the best
• 19:47
  Speaker 2: he's felt since that Super Bowl preseason run, where his
• 19:50
  Speaker 2: body's right. He got this, he got everything taking care
• 19:52
  Speaker 2: of him in the off season. I know people ask
• 19:55
  Speaker 2: about this stuff, guys. I don't have a model that
• 19:57
  Speaker 2: can talk about what a guy's off season is and
• 20:00
  Speaker 2: a model that can predict the drama going in his
• 20:02
  Speaker 2: own life. I know his wife's cancer came back. That's
• 20:05
  Speaker 2: a big deal, and I feel terrible for Matthew Stafford,
• 20:07
  Speaker 2: his family. I don't know how that factors into what
• 20:10
  Speaker 2: I'm doing here. So when people ask about that stuff,
• 20:12
  Speaker 2: like don't you feel weird back in the rams and
• 20:13
  Speaker 2: he's all this stuff gone off the field, He's dealt
• 20:15
  Speaker 2: with this and and his wife have been through a
• 20:17
  Speaker 2: lot of turmoil in their life. So to me, I
• 20:20
  Speaker 2: don't really put any weight into that when I look
• 20:21
  Speaker 2: at this team just on paper, all the red flags,
• 20:24
  Speaker 2: all the question mark is going to be on the defense.
• 20:27
  Speaker 2: They have a lot of young talent on the defense.
• 20:29
  Speaker 2: They've given up all these draft picks to mortgage their
• 20:32
  Speaker 2: future to win that one super Bowl. So I get
• 20:36
  Speaker 2: all the questions. There's a reason they're ten to nine
• 20:38
  Speaker 2: to one to win this division, But the biggest one
• 20:41
  Speaker 2: is they're just left for dead by the general public.
• 20:42
  Speaker 2: The public loves the Seahawks, they love the forty nine ers.
• 20:46
  Speaker 2: I mean, hell, chaed we talked about it. I might
• 20:49
  Speaker 2: be the only guy in America that had Stafford in
• 20:51
  Speaker 2: their top ten of quarterback rankings. Like people just have
• 20:53
  Speaker 2: left him for dead. He won a super Bowl not
• 20:56
  Speaker 2: even two years ago. It's it is bizarre that just
• 21:00
  Speaker 2: the way it isn't football. It just people move on
• 21:01
  Speaker 2: really quick. And they always liked the new toy. This
• 21:05
  Speaker 2: is where I love love taking the old guard, Like
• 21:07
  Speaker 2: I love the old quarterback that's kind of left for
• 21:09
  Speaker 2: dead that he is so far above talent wise. It's
• 21:13
  Speaker 2: you know, to me, I look at this team and
• 21:15
  Speaker 2: it's just all offensively driven, Like they have Cooper Cup
• 21:18
  Speaker 2: and then a bunch of wide receivers that people don't
• 21:20
  Speaker 2: know about, but they're really talented wide receiver group. And
• 21:23
  Speaker 2: then you have mcveigh's running scheme, which is one of
• 21:24
  Speaker 2: the best run blocking schemes in all football. I love
• 21:27
  Speaker 2: that on the offensive side. The big question mark is
• 21:29
  Speaker 2: the defensive side, but we're not paying for that. Like literally,
• 21:33
  Speaker 2: I can't stop betting the over six and a half
• 21:35
  Speaker 2: and I can't stop betting the divisional future. It's just
• 21:38
  Speaker 2: really good value on a team that they had six
• 21:41
  Speaker 2: wins last year, Chad. This team had six wins last
• 21:45
  Speaker 2: year with Baker Mayfield coming off a Super Bowl hangover
• 21:48
  Speaker 2: all that bs, they still somehow got the six wins
• 21:51
  Speaker 2: last year. So to me, this is classic dumb public
• 21:54
  Speaker 2: We'll bet this under. They'll be all in on the Seahawks.
• 21:56
  Speaker 2: I'll be in on the forty nine ers, and I'll
• 21:59
  Speaker 2: just take this number in the same that we already
• 22:00
  Speaker 2: talked about, Chad. They start the season at Seattle and
• 22:04
  Speaker 2: then at home against the forty nine Ers. Guarantee you
• 22:08
  Speaker 2: if they go to and oh the Rams, they will
• 22:10
  Speaker 2: go from ten to one, nine to one Divisional odds
• 22:13
  Speaker 2: to maybe three hundred to one to four to one.
• 22:16
  Speaker 2: It's just that's a big, big drop. So that's just
• 22:19
  Speaker 2: to me, it's an easy value play. Like there's rare,
• 22:23
  Speaker 2: there's rare opportunities where you got a really easy value
• 22:26
  Speaker 2: play and a veteran quarterback, and this is one of them.
• 22:28
  Speaker 2: This is one of these where the money has dictated
• 22:30
  Speaker 2: this number. Again, I'll talk to plenty of book makers.
• 22:33
  Speaker 2: It's just all Seahawks money in this division and then
• 22:37
  Speaker 2: it's all forty nine Ers money. Right, So to me,
• 22:41
  Speaker 2: you know, feels gross. Chad doesn't feel good betting on
• 22:44
  Speaker 2: this Rams team, just because I think Freeman alluded to
• 22:46
  Speaker 2: it a little bit of you know, he could be
• 22:49
  Speaker 2: traded Stafford that like that, that is a real thing.
• 22:51
  Speaker 2: They tried to move him in the offseason. Apparently he
• 22:55
  Speaker 2: stepped in and said he didn't want to be traded,
• 22:57
  Speaker 2: and like he said, that's good to be one of
• 22:59
  Speaker 2: by Velly's other teams. But it's just gone too far.
• 23:01
  Speaker 2: The other way this Rams hate, right, they still have
• 23:03
  Speaker 2: Aaron Donald as the anchor of that defense. They still
• 23:06
  Speaker 2: have Stafford Cooper Cup on that offense. I just I
• 23:10
  Speaker 2: think there's too much doubt with McVeigh right now with
• 23:12
  Speaker 2: this team. It's just it just doesn't make sense to
• 23:15
  Speaker 2: be chat six and a half on a team that
• 23:16
  Speaker 2: got six wins last year. It's too low. But then
• 23:19
  Speaker 2: you look at the numbers and the public are betting
• 23:20
  Speaker 2: this under. They're taking this under just because they think
• 23:23
  Speaker 2: this team isn't that good. So I'm gonna take the over.
• 23:26
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna take the divisional odds, and it's an easy,
• 23:28
  Speaker 2: easy position that if they do go to and OW
• 23:30
  Speaker 2: to start the year, then I come back in the
• 23:32
  Speaker 2: other side. I'll take the forty nine ers because the
• 23:34
  Speaker 2: four Niners right now, would you say they were chat
• 23:36
  Speaker 2: minus won seventy five for this division.
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: I don't minus won seventy five.
• 23:39
  Speaker 2: I wouldn't take it that price. So to me, it's
• 23:42
  Speaker 2: a nice playback of Okay, say the forty nine ers,
• 23:45
  Speaker 2: do you start one on one, they lose that second
• 23:47
  Speaker 2: game to the Rams, You'll be able to get a
• 23:49
  Speaker 2: nice buyback on this forty nine Ers team. If that's
• 23:51
  Speaker 2: what you want to do. So yeah, I'm just like
• 23:53
  Speaker 2: the Jaguars last year. Chat. I definitely think the Rams
• 23:55
  Speaker 2: are one of these teams. I'm all in on this
• 23:57
  Speaker 2: upcoming season.
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: Rams plus one five over six and a half at
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: bet three sixty five. Right now, Simon, if Friedman doesn't
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: speak specifically to a question I have, I'm gonna come
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: back to you, Freedman, in the spirit of Jack Jerman
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: Los Angeles Rams, We'll say you.
• 24:26
  Speaker 3: I will agree with basically everything Simon said except one thing.
• 24:32
  Speaker 3: I don't think he's taking it far enough. Wow. If
• 24:38
  Speaker 3: the Rams are actually good enough to win the division
• 24:42
  Speaker 3: at nine to one odds, and I'll say I haven't
• 24:46
  Speaker 3: projected for six point nine, So I do like the
• 24:48
  Speaker 3: over a little bit, even though I'm a pessimist. I
• 24:51
  Speaker 3: would never actually bet the over on almost any win total.
• 24:54
  Speaker 3: But if we're thinking about the wide range of outcomes
• 24:57
  Speaker 3: that this team has, if they are good enough to
• 24:59
  Speaker 3: win the division, that means that Matthew Stafford is healthy,
• 25:04
  Speaker 3: Cooper Cup is healthy, Sean McVeigh is locked in and
• 25:09
  Speaker 3: living life, and you probably have a defense that is
• 25:13
  Speaker 3: anchored by Aaron Donald playing at near peak form with
• 25:17
  Speaker 3: a lot of young guys who have stepped up, and
• 25:20
  Speaker 3: you have a defense that right now, I'm ranking them
• 25:23
  Speaker 3: number thirty two in the league. Right but that's like
• 25:25
  Speaker 3: the base case, worst case scenario. If they're better, even
• 25:29
  Speaker 3: if they're just a little bit better and they get
• 25:31
  Speaker 3: some youth enthusiasm here, they could be middle of the
• 25:34
  Speaker 3: road and at that point you have a super Bowl
• 25:38
  Speaker 3: type of offense with a good enough defense. What's stopping
• 25:43
  Speaker 3: them from getting to the super Bowl? At that point,
• 25:45
  Speaker 3: if they are good enough to win the division, what
• 25:48
  Speaker 3: is stopping them from reaching the super Bowl? So I
• 25:50
  Speaker 3: would just say, bet them to win the NFC and honestly,
• 25:54
  Speaker 3: bet them to win the Super Bowl sixty six to
• 25:56
  Speaker 3: one at bet three s five, I would bet that.
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: Working for fantasy life, living in a fantasy that's Matthew
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: Friedman in a nutshell. What I wanted to ask Simon
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: about was what do we think about the offensive line
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: for the Rams, which was atrocious last year? Is that
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: is there been enough of an improvement that we think
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: it can help the Rams do what we need to do.
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: We're talking all about the offense, but we're talking all
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: about skill positions. And you have said many many times
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: on this show what you grade highest when it comes
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: to thinking about teams and their value offensive line, defensive line.
• 26:34
  Speaker 2: Yeah, definitely not the strongest suit of this team. I
• 26:37
  Speaker 2: think i'd have to go through. I'm pretty sure I
• 26:39
  Speaker 2: had them anywhere from twenty two to eighteen. So they're
• 26:41
  Speaker 2: in that range of they're not as terrible as people
• 26:44
  Speaker 2: think they were last year, but they're definitely not as
• 26:46
  Speaker 2: good as I would hope they would be. So definitely
• 26:49
  Speaker 2: an issue when you got a guy like Stafford back
• 26:51
  Speaker 2: there that you know was taking a lot of hits
• 26:53
  Speaker 2: last year. That's obviously what help break him down before
• 26:57
  Speaker 2: he said off in the sunset last year. So I'm
• 26:59
  Speaker 2: ready there with you each other. That's definitely a big, big,
• 27:01
  Speaker 2: big negative towards me. But it's the McVeigh factor, Like
• 27:05
  Speaker 2: if they do have a week offensive line, McVeigh will
• 27:08
  Speaker 2: design his offense around that. That's what makes him so special.
• 27:10
  Speaker 2: So a lot a lot of stuff that you know,
• 27:14
  Speaker 2: I'm going to go through here in preseason and learn
• 27:16
  Speaker 2: more about their offensive line, But as we stand here
• 27:18
  Speaker 2: right now, that is a big question work to me,
• 27:20
  Speaker 2: is their offensive line. How they're going to perform this year?
• 27:23
  Speaker 2: All right.
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• 28:36
  Speaker 1: talked about Rock Purty and his routine so far during
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: training camp. We're I don't know, a week into most
• 28:46
  Speaker 1: training camps, what is your routine and when you're prepping
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: for the season. When it comes to keeping track of
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  Speaker 1: the news in training camps.
• 28:56
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I guess the routine is keeping up
• 29:00
  Speaker 3: like a Twitter list. I guess, not a Twitter list anymore,
• 29:03
  Speaker 3: an X list that sounds really weird, but an X
• 29:07
  Speaker 3: list of different beat reporters.
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: And I've got an X list.
• 29:11
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I will just monitor throughout the day. But I
• 29:15
  Speaker 3: mean there's so much aggregation that happens now that it's
• 29:19
  Speaker 3: not hard to keep track of the news. For the
• 29:22
  Speaker 3: big players, it's more about I mean, like Simon said,
• 29:26
  Speaker 3: like think about the offensive lineman, the defensive lineman, thinking
• 29:28
  Speaker 3: about the depth on some of these teams, and so
• 29:31
  Speaker 3: for that, you know, they're just specific beat reporters who
• 29:34
  Speaker 3: tend to be very good at highlighting different camp battles,
• 29:37
  Speaker 3: like the more obscure ones. And so I'll just be
• 29:39
  Speaker 3: sure to read whatever reports that they have.
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: Stammon, what about you.
• 29:44
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's the same. It's just honestly, that's the weirdest
• 29:48
  Speaker 2: part about being out in Hawaii is like the whole
• 29:50
  Speaker 2: world goes to bed by three pm Hawaii time, which
• 29:53
  Speaker 2: is like nine pm East Coast. It's it's a bit
• 29:56
  Speaker 2: weird where it's like I'm catching up on everything from
• 29:58
  Speaker 2: the day. You know, we joke, Chad. This is the
• 30:02
  Speaker 2: time of year where it's like like DJ Moore today
• 30:05
  Speaker 2: called a slam route, took it for a touchdown. It's like,
• 30:07
  Speaker 2: holy shit, like any Bears fans going absolutely crazy. One
• 30:10
  Speaker 2: is less than you guys had a wide receiver that
• 30:11
  Speaker 2: could take a slant route to the end zone, Brandon Marshall.
• 30:14
  Speaker 2: So it's I think any any fan base is going crazy,
• 30:18
  Speaker 2: Like I can't stop reading about these Georgia Bulldog rookies
• 30:21
  Speaker 2: that the Eagles drafted, Like I'm obsessed. So it's one
• 30:24
  Speaker 2: of those where we're stars. Yeah exactly. It's like everyone's
• 30:29
  Speaker 2: drinking their own kool aid, and I think, as a
• 30:31
  Speaker 2: better our job is to sift through all the bullshit.
• 30:33
  Speaker 2: So right now I'm just drinking all in, like this
• 30:36
  Speaker 2: is the time here. I'll just take it all in
• 30:38
  Speaker 2: and the next couple of weeks I'll start forming and really,
• 30:40
  Speaker 2: really really start forming opinions on stuff where some of
• 30:43
  Speaker 2: this is just pure smoke screen. Some of it is
• 30:46
  Speaker 2: you know a lot of these teams work with these
• 30:49
  Speaker 2: media members. And again I'm talking about Trey Lance, but
• 30:53
  Speaker 2: there's no doubt in my mind the forty nine ers
• 30:55
  Speaker 2: are going to try to move Trey Lance like they
• 30:57
  Speaker 2: clearly believe in rock purity. So to me, every time
• 31:01
  Speaker 2: I see a hype tweet about Trey Lance or him
• 31:03
  Speaker 2: doing really well, it's like, Okay, is this foreignine ers
• 31:05
  Speaker 2: pr trying to move this guy and put his name
• 31:07
  Speaker 2: out there. So it is tough chat trying to stift
• 31:10
  Speaker 2: through all of it, but it's the best just because
• 31:12
  Speaker 2: we already talked about It's like there's so much information
• 31:16
  Speaker 2: we put out there that if you can find good sources,
• 31:19
  Speaker 2: you really could take advantage for the upcoming season. I
• 31:21
  Speaker 2: feel at this point last year, you know, we were
• 31:23
  Speaker 2: really ahead of it with the Chiefs team. The Chiefs
• 31:25
  Speaker 2: were getting so much doubt by so many people just
• 31:27
  Speaker 2: because they lost Tyry Kill, and we talked about all
• 31:29
  Speaker 2: the time it's like this team is going to be
• 31:31
  Speaker 2: better now they're in two tight end sets, Like that's
• 31:33
  Speaker 2: going to be an improvement for them this upcoming season.
• 31:35
  Speaker 2: And we saw that it was. So that's one of
• 31:37
  Speaker 2: those where, yes, I'm forming an opinions here in this preseason,
• 31:41
  Speaker 2: but it's one of those where it's like I'm just
• 31:43
  Speaker 2: trying to sift through all the bullshit. Yeah, there's just
• 31:45
  Speaker 2: so much bs. Everyone thinks our team's going seventeen and
• 31:49
  Speaker 2: h going to super Bowl at this point. So that's
• 31:51
  Speaker 2: my job is kind of temper expectations not throughout last year,
• 31:55
  Speaker 2: but mold last year this year where it's like, Okay,
• 31:59
  Speaker 2: just it's because the Eagles went whatever it was, thirteen
• 32:02
  Speaker 2: and three, thirteen or four last year is totally irrelevant
• 32:05
  Speaker 2: to this upcoming season. But it's nice to see those
• 32:07
  Speaker 2: games for a certain team. So a team we're about
• 32:10
  Speaker 2: to talk about, the Seahawks, is one of those teams
• 32:11
  Speaker 2: that just jumps out of a team with a tony
• 32:13
  Speaker 2: success last year. Chad, Now what are they going to
• 32:16
  Speaker 2: do this year?
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: My favorite note so far this year in reading about
• 32:22
  Speaker 1: the Bears during the training camp is Number one pick
• 32:27
  Speaker 1: Darnell right, offensive lineman from Tennessee, came into camp sixteen
• 32:32
  Speaker 1: pounds later in the best shape he's ever been in
• 32:35
  Speaker 1: because he spent the offseason doing the training program for
• 32:39
  Speaker 1: wide receivers. Yeah, by accident. So I'm thinking to myself,
• 32:46
  Speaker 1: Wait a second, am I thrilled that our top pick
• 32:51
  Speaker 1: and an offensive lineman is in great shape? Or on
• 32:56
  Speaker 1: my upset that he didn't realize he was doing the
• 32:59
  Speaker 1: wrong training program for an entire offseason. If you do
• 33:03
  Speaker 1: not communicate with anybody like what happened here. I'm gonna
• 33:06
  Speaker 1: take it in a positive way, because you know what
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: optimism season. No one's doing bad. Even the rooky corners
• 33:13
  Speaker 1: getting burned are still moving their hips in the just
• 33:17
  Speaker 1: the right way that if they can adjust their angle,
• 33:20
  Speaker 1: they'll be perfect. We're really encouraged by the way we're
• 33:23
  Speaker 1: seeing a move all right. I don't know what the
• 33:27
  Speaker 1: Seahawks have done in the offseason to make us think
• 33:30
  Speaker 1: that they are a contender in any way. This team
• 33:35
  Speaker 1: right now, they're at plus two twenty.
• 33:37
  Speaker 2: They had a great draft, plus two twenty.
• 33:40
  Speaker 1: One in the Division eight and a half season win total.
• 33:44
  Speaker 1: It has regression written all over it to me. And
• 33:51
  Speaker 1: they did have a great draft last year too, right,
• 33:53
  Speaker 1: great great draft the defensive back. They drafted the running back.
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: But come on, Gino's not going to be the same
• 34:03
  Speaker 1: Geno Friedman back me up.
• 34:08
  Speaker 3: Are we sure that he's not going to be close
• 34:11
  Speaker 3: to the same geno. I mean, I would say like
• 34:14
  Speaker 3: he's in a pretty large tier of NFL quarterbacks where
• 34:18
  Speaker 3: he could be like the number twenty quarterback in the
• 34:22
  Speaker 3: league or the number ten quarterback in the league, and
• 34:24
  Speaker 3: there really wouldn't be much separating a.
• 34:27
  Speaker 2: Lot of those guys.
• 34:29
  Speaker 3: But what he did last year was fairly close on
• 34:33
  Speaker 3: like a per attent basis efficiency basis to what he
• 34:36
  Speaker 3: did the year before when he was a backup quarterback.
• 34:39
  Speaker 3: He's been there a long time, so he knows the system.
• 34:42
  Speaker 3: Shane Waldron I think is a pretty impressive offensive coordinator.
• 34:46
  Speaker 3: Their offensive line should be better than it was last year,
• 34:50
  Speaker 3: both because they've added to it and because they had
• 34:52
  Speaker 3: two rookie tackles last year who were good and are
• 34:55
  Speaker 3: now entering into their second season. They could take another
• 34:57
  Speaker 3: step forward. They've increased the strength of their wide receiver
• 35:03
  Speaker 3: unit with drafting Jackson Smith and Jig, but now they
• 35:06
  Speaker 3: might have if not like it's not the best wide
• 35:10
  Speaker 3: receiver group in the league, but one of the best
• 35:13
  Speaker 3: wide receiver groups in the league. And then on top
• 35:16
  Speaker 3: of that, the running games should still be pretty good.
• 35:19
  Speaker 3: I think the offense will be good this year.
• 35:22
  Speaker 2: Arguably the three best receivers in the history of the NFL. Chat.
• 35:25
  Speaker 2: I know it's a little early to say that, but
• 35:27
  Speaker 2: oh my god, I'm I'm I can't believe how good
• 35:30
  Speaker 2: their receiving corps is. So it's scary because I want
• 35:34
  Speaker 2: to be right on the Seahawks team. The only people
• 35:37
  Speaker 2: that are really all in on them are their diehard fans,
• 35:39
  Speaker 2: like they're they're the Seahawks fans. They were allowed chat.
• 35:42
  Speaker 2: We talked at them, maybe it was a month ago
• 35:43
  Speaker 2: or whenever we had a freeman on just about the
• 35:45
  Speaker 2: regression we saw Kamlin Gino and all their fans are
• 35:48
  Speaker 2: just coming back saying, well, how they're going to regress
• 35:51
  Speaker 2: when he has another weapon too, this receiving corps, And
• 35:53
  Speaker 2: that is fair, you know, It's it's a rare position
• 35:59
  Speaker 2: of a team. Team really did dominate the draft chat
• 36:02
  Speaker 2: it is. We saw it last year of the Jets. Right,
• 36:05
  Speaker 2: we expected a lot of not bad play from the Jets,
• 36:09
  Speaker 2: but we just had no faith in Zach Wilson, and
• 36:10
  Speaker 2: we were like, we don't want to take too much
• 36:12
  Speaker 2: from that draft class. Right Sauce came out, became an
• 36:15
  Speaker 2: All Pro and that really changed that whole dynamic on
• 36:17
  Speaker 2: that defense. And I have no idea how good to
• 36:20
  Speaker 2: this how State kid is right, he could be a
• 36:21
  Speaker 2: total flop. And maybe I'm overblowing this, but from all
• 36:25
  Speaker 2: the scouts I talked to, all these guys close in
• 36:28
  Speaker 2: the NFL, they were on this kid for years, like
• 36:31
  Speaker 2: talking about how good of a talent this kid is.
• 36:33
  Speaker 2: And now we've seen it now in the limited time
• 36:35
  Speaker 2: I've seen it in preseason, this kid's route running chat
• 36:38
  Speaker 2: is incredible. Like again, I have tons of respect for
• 36:42
  Speaker 2: Dk Metcalf. DK Metcalf runs shit at routes. When he
• 36:46
  Speaker 2: came out of college, he was just known as a
• 36:48
  Speaker 2: straight ahead runner. Now he's improved, he's gotten much better.
• 36:51
  Speaker 2: That's not really a strong suit. Lockett, on the other hand,
• 36:53
  Speaker 2: the other wide receiver in that group that is we're
• 36:55
  Speaker 2: usually strong. He's incredible running route. So you know, I
• 36:59
  Speaker 2: want to I want to take this under. I having
• 37:01
  Speaker 2: an eight point nine wins, so that rounded up to
• 37:03
  Speaker 2: nine wins, so I do have them at the over
• 37:05
  Speaker 2: slightly nine to eight. Not that far of a stretch
• 37:07
  Speaker 2: for this team, right, just because last year I think
• 37:09
  Speaker 2: they overachieved, right, they were better earlier than most of us,
• 37:13
  Speaker 2: predicting I'll be the first two amit. Last year I
• 37:15
  Speaker 2: took their under. I did not see Gino Smith turn
• 37:19
  Speaker 2: around his career like he did. I really did think
• 37:21
  Speaker 2: last year was going to be a band aid year.
• 37:23
  Speaker 2: He'd be okay, but they would eventually draft a quarterback
• 37:26
  Speaker 2: in the drop upcoming draft. They still talk about drafting
• 37:29
  Speaker 2: of the quarterback. Remember that Chad. They said if Anthony
• 37:31
  Speaker 2: Richardson fell the five, they probably would have taken him.
• 37:33
  Speaker 2: So to me, this is a really obviously a smart
• 37:36
  Speaker 2: front office to say a coach in Pete Carroll that
• 37:42
  Speaker 2: I just can't get over how good of a coach
• 37:44
  Speaker 2: he has been through all these years. Like when he
• 37:46
  Speaker 2: came from USC, I was one of those people that
• 37:48
  Speaker 2: was like, okay, he's just running away from a school
• 37:50
  Speaker 2: that he tarnished, right, Remember he had all that drama.
• 37:52
  Speaker 2: That's why he left there. They were going to lose
• 37:53
  Speaker 2: the Heisman and Reggie Bush. They had a lot of
• 37:55
  Speaker 2: stuff going on, manas he been a great coach there.
• 37:58
  Speaker 2: So that's the wh artist part for me is I
• 38:01
  Speaker 2: do want to take this under, but my model has
• 38:03
  Speaker 2: them in and over and in factor in the Pete
• 38:05
  Speaker 2: Carroll factor of this where it's like the top tom
• 38:08
  Speaker 2: you know, Tomlin and this Pittsburgh team. No one saw
• 38:11
  Speaker 2: them in that over last year, and he did it.
• 38:12
  Speaker 2: He got there, metcha. I believed in it, but we
• 38:14
  Speaker 2: were kind of island with that Pittsburgh tam last year.
• 38:16
  Speaker 2: It feels same as the Seahawks this year, where I
• 38:19
  Speaker 2: do think Geno's gonna have a regression, but I think
• 38:21
  Speaker 2: that wide receiving core is so good that even if
• 38:24
  Speaker 2: he goes from his incredible seventy percent completion percentage to
• 38:28
  Speaker 2: sixty four sixty five percent, I think that's enough for
• 38:31
  Speaker 2: him to get this seemed to nine wins. So not
• 38:34
  Speaker 2: putting anyone in them. Divisionally, I do not like the
• 38:37
  Speaker 2: value at all. I think this is way too inflated.
• 38:39
  Speaker 2: To me, they're close to a plus three hundred. They're
• 38:42
  Speaker 2: down to I think plus one eighty plus one ninety
• 38:45
  Speaker 2: on bet three sixty five for this division. That's way
• 38:48
  Speaker 2: too low for this team. So to me, all the
• 38:51
  Speaker 2: value division wises on the Rams win total wise, I
• 38:55
  Speaker 2: will throw a very small bet on this over eight
• 38:57
  Speaker 2: and a half.
• 39:01
  Speaker 1: You said something that it's a little bit shocking.
• 39:05
  Speaker 2: It pained you.
• 39:08
  Speaker 1: The greatest receiving corps in history.
• 39:13
  Speaker 2: The three of them. Yeah, I honestly believe that, dude.
• 39:16
  Speaker 1: The Raiders had Tim Brown and Jerry Rice at the
• 39:20
  Speaker 1: same time.
• 39:22
  Speaker 2: There was white cornerbacks when there playing. Chad, that shit
• 39:24
  Speaker 2: don't matter. Oh my god, get out of your time capsule.
• 39:30
  Speaker 1: Like that is just a hugely bold statement. I feel
• 39:35
  Speaker 1: like we should be able to think of three receivers
• 39:38
  Speaker 1: on the same team, like the Chargers with Mike Williams
• 39:43
  Speaker 1: and Keenan Allen as two thirds of a receiving corps
• 39:48
  Speaker 1: are already better than what the Seahawks have. You're saying
• 39:53
  Speaker 1: they could go down as that.
• 39:55
  Speaker 2: I just I can't get how good this kid is. Man,
• 39:58
  Speaker 2: There's just I already knew how good lock it where
• 40:00
  Speaker 2: in DK metcalf forward. They literally made Gino Smith get
• 40:03
  Speaker 2: paid like Gino Smith was left for dead. This man
• 40:06
  Speaker 2: got three years what is a seventy million something crazy
• 40:11
  Speaker 2: like that. So I'm with you, Chad. I hate to
• 40:13
  Speaker 2: say shit like this, but I'm watching this kid run
• 40:17
  Speaker 2: routes and practice and his body control in his hands.
• 40:21
  Speaker 2: Holy shit, man, Like they just they nailed this draft.
• 40:24
  Speaker 2: And again I think they just signed the cornerback that could.
• 40:27
  Speaker 2: They took the fifth overall. Yeah, if he can be
• 40:31
  Speaker 2: what we think he should be, right, is a lockdown
• 40:34
  Speaker 2: corner that reshaped your whole defense. So you know, they
• 40:38
  Speaker 2: already have arguably a top five, top four safety in
• 40:43
  Speaker 2: this league. Now you're adding a hopefully to them, a
• 40:46
  Speaker 2: top five corner. That's that's a big deal to this
• 40:48
  Speaker 2: defense that you know, they struggled in a lot of
• 40:51
  Speaker 2: ways last year. Now they didn't really correct which is
• 40:54
  Speaker 2: their biggest issue, which is they couldn't stop the run
• 40:56
  Speaker 2: last year. I don't know if you remember this, but
• 40:58
  Speaker 2: they could not stop the run like that was the
• 41:00
  Speaker 2: biggest issue for this team. I know they've added pieces
• 41:03
  Speaker 2: to that d line and you know, maybe their detack
• 41:05
  Speaker 2: will make a big difference. But yeah, just on paper, chat,
• 41:08
  Speaker 2: I'm in love with this wide receiver corp. Now, I
• 41:10
  Speaker 2: get where you're coming from. I hate saying shit like this,
• 41:12
  Speaker 2: but man, it doesn't get more talented than this kind
• 41:16
  Speaker 2: of group.
• 41:17
  Speaker 1: Simon said that he thinks the Seahawks wide receiving corps
• 41:22
  Speaker 1: could go down, if not already as the greatest three
• 41:27
  Speaker 1: receivers on the same roster in NFL history.
• 41:33
  Speaker 3: Get the enthusiasm. I would just say it's probably a
• 41:36
  Speaker 3: little too soon to think that Jackson Smith and Jigba
• 41:40
  Speaker 3: is going to change the face of the NFL. He
• 41:43
  Speaker 3: is super talented. I think he's going to be a
• 41:44
  Speaker 3: great slot receiver. One question is how often are the
• 41:48
  Speaker 3: Seahawks going to go into three wide receiver sets because
• 41:52
  Speaker 3: they still rely on two tight ends quite a bit and.
• 41:55
  Speaker 2: They don't have a running back. Both their running backs
• 41:57
  Speaker 2: are dead.
• 41:58
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I know then will be healthy by the time
• 42:01
  Speaker 3: the season starts. But it's an offense, I know. So
• 42:05
  Speaker 3: you know, on the one hand, Simon is saying like regression, regression,
• 42:08
  Speaker 3: and then he makes the case for like why this
• 42:10
  Speaker 3: offense should be good and the defense you know, he
• 42:13
  Speaker 3: hit it there too. The defense could be pretty good,
• 42:15
  Speaker 3: not against the run, but maybe a little bit better
• 42:18
  Speaker 3: against the run, just good enough against the run, and
• 42:21
  Speaker 3: then super dynamic against the pass. Because Sarreik Wollan was
• 42:25
  Speaker 3: a legit, like long armed, super athletic, shut down cornerback
• 42:31
  Speaker 3: last year, and then they drafted a cornerback at number five,
• 42:34
  Speaker 3: like they could have one of the top corner tandums
• 42:37
  Speaker 3: in the league. And then they're also really strong at safety.
• 42:40
  Speaker 3: Now with three legit starters back there, like they might
• 42:43
  Speaker 3: just roll with three safeties in their nickel package or
• 42:47
  Speaker 3: maybe play a little bit more of a dime package.
• 42:49
  Speaker 3: So their defense could be significantly better than it was
• 42:52
  Speaker 3: last year. Their offense, I think could take a little
• 42:54
  Speaker 3: step forward. I'm not gonna say like they're Super Bowl contenders,
• 42:58
  Speaker 3: but like they feel like a team that, like, if
• 43:00
  Speaker 3: they get feisty, could end up playing like the forty
• 43:04
  Speaker 3: nine ers in the conference championship game, you know what
• 43:07
  Speaker 3: I mean, Like they they could have some feistiness to
• 43:10
  Speaker 3: them that propels them in the playoffs.
• 43:13
  Speaker 1: Well, look, I think I think though, for purposes of
• 43:16
  Speaker 1: this conversation, we don't think there's value on the Seahawks
• 43:20
  Speaker 1: to win the division. Simon has them at plus three
• 43:22
  Speaker 1: hundred and they're at bet three sixty five. Simon, you
• 43:25
  Speaker 1: said it was one to eighty one to ninety. I
• 43:27
  Speaker 1: saw it at plus two twenty, So maybe it's different
• 43:31
  Speaker 1: in different places, but plus two twenty and their season
• 43:34
  Speaker 1: win total at eight and a half. Simon has them
• 43:36
  Speaker 1: at eight nine, so slightly over but not something he's
• 43:41
  Speaker 1: gonna bet. Friedman, what was your win total on the Seahawks.
• 43:46
  Speaker 3: I'm close to market. I didn't really see anything bettable
• 43:50
  Speaker 3: for them in the futures market. It would I saw
• 43:52
  Speaker 3: usuff in the season one player prop market that I
• 43:55
  Speaker 3: thought was bettable, but really nothing on their their team
• 43:59
  Speaker 3: futures market.
• 44:01
  Speaker 1: I will look, we've left the worst team for last,
• 44:06
  Speaker 1: the Arizona Cardinals Kyler Murray. We don't know what's happening
• 44:10
  Speaker 1: with him. That is a legit question. He came out
• 44:13
  Speaker 1: yesterday and said he's just going maybe two days ago
• 44:15
  Speaker 1: and said he's, you know, making his way back, but
• 44:18
  Speaker 1: he's not setting a timetable to it. Their season win
• 44:23
  Speaker 1: total was four and a half. Their odds to win
• 44:26
  Speaker 1: the division their plus twenty five hundred twenty five to one.
• 44:33
  Speaker 1: Not much to say about this team, is there, Friedman?
• 44:39
  Speaker 1: If there's nothing to say, Yeah, they.
• 44:42
  Speaker 3: Burn it down, you know, And I will say that
• 44:45
  Speaker 3: I think they at least intelligently started the process of
• 44:49
  Speaker 3: rebuilding the entire team this past offseason. So say whatever
• 44:53
  Speaker 3: you want about you know, Jonathan Gannon is your head coach.
• 44:56
  Speaker 3: I would prefer more of an offensive minding coach defensive,
• 44:59
  Speaker 3: But whatever you brought in a new coach, he brought
• 45:01
  Speaker 3: in a new staff and then you traded away some
• 45:04
  Speaker 3: pieces there you have a shot at having two picks
• 45:08
  Speaker 3: in the top five next year. And like, to me,
• 45:10
  Speaker 3: that actually feels like the best case scenario for this team.
• 45:14
  Speaker 3: Like the worst case scenario is somehow overperforming bringing Kyler
• 45:19
  Speaker 3: Murray back to early and you have a record of
• 45:22
  Speaker 3: like five and twelve, you know, to where like you
• 45:25
  Speaker 3: didn't really do anything to help yourself this season or
• 45:29
  Speaker 3: for the future. So I will be curious to see
• 45:32
  Speaker 3: how it is that they implement the rebuilding during the season.
• 45:38
  Speaker 3: But even with an incredibly low win total, there's no
• 45:43
  Speaker 3: way I would want to take the over because they
• 45:46
  Speaker 3: could just make a series of moves during the year
• 45:49
  Speaker 3: that make this team perpetually underperform and end up with
• 45:54
  Speaker 3: the worst record in the league.
• 45:57
  Speaker 1: So let's take the under, Simon, Let's take the under
• 45:59
  Speaker 1: four and a half.
• 46:01
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's definitely these teams where you know, I know
• 46:05
  Speaker 2: people he upset people got when I talked about Kyler
• 46:07
  Speaker 2: Murray was on the trading block during the draft and
• 46:09
  Speaker 2: they were trying to move him, and they were willing
• 46:11
  Speaker 2: to eat up a lot of his salary because they
• 46:12
  Speaker 2: basically made a deal with the devil like they gave
• 46:14
  Speaker 2: him a deal where if they traded him this offseason,
• 46:16
  Speaker 2: I think they'd start to pay him like one hundred
• 46:18
  Speaker 2: million on a dead cap. It's something crazy like that
• 46:20
  Speaker 2: where their last gym was a real idiot. I don't
• 46:23
  Speaker 2: know if you've heard him talking now on multiple different shows. Wow,
• 46:27
  Speaker 2: how do I get a job as a GM in
• 46:28
  Speaker 2: the NFL just to be a total buffoon? That's what
• 46:31
  Speaker 2: that guy feels like. So to me, it's just a
• 46:33
  Speaker 2: situation of they have a lot of demons of exile, right,
• 46:37
  Speaker 2: they have a lot of mistakes on this team. I mean,
• 46:40
  Speaker 2: I'm shocked Buddha Baker doesn't want to get the fuck
• 46:42
  Speaker 2: out of there, Like, this guy is way too good
• 46:44
  Speaker 2: to be stuck on a sinking ship like this. You know,
• 46:48
  Speaker 2: it's just it sucks if you're an Arizona fan, right,
• 46:51
  Speaker 2: I mean just a year ago, I think me and
• 46:53
  Speaker 2: chat both at Kyler Murray are top ten quarterbacks. And
• 46:56
  Speaker 2: then it comes out that this kid doesn't study his playbooks.
• 46:58
  Speaker 2: He likes to play video game right when he gets home.
• 47:01
  Speaker 2: He is the last one into the facility, is the
• 47:04
  Speaker 2: first one out. Those are all the biggest redflexan chad
• 47:07
  Speaker 2: you have your own quarterback right now? Justin Field's are
• 47:09
  Speaker 2: paying This kid lives in your facility, Like literally stays
• 47:13
  Speaker 2: in there twenty four to seven, sometimes just all week
• 47:16
  Speaker 2: he's at the facility, sleeps there, wakes up, trains, watches film.
• 47:20
  Speaker 2: That's what you need to be great in the NFL.
• 47:22
  Speaker 2: Everyone has the same level of talent, right, we talk
• 47:24
  Speaker 2: all the time. The talent level from the number one
• 47:26
  Speaker 2: quarterback to the thirty second isn't that different. It's all
• 47:29
  Speaker 2: about how hard you're willing to work and how smart
• 47:32
  Speaker 2: you are. So to me, Kyler we all know is
• 47:34
  Speaker 2: god given ability. But on a sinking ship like this, Chad,
• 47:37
  Speaker 2: I think Freeman talked about where it's like, if they
• 47:40
  Speaker 2: start the year zero to five, why would they rush
• 47:43
  Speaker 2: Kyler back? Like there is no reason to rush him back.
• 47:46
  Speaker 2: I can guarantee if people listening to the show, me
• 47:48
  Speaker 2: and Chatter are going to be on that week one
• 47:49
  Speaker 2: Cole McCoy plus six against Washington, give it to me
• 47:53
  Speaker 2: all day, Like mean, Chat are gonna love that number.
• 47:56
  Speaker 2: But season win till four and a half? It feels
• 47:59
  Speaker 2: right five and a half. The news came out, I
• 48:02
  Speaker 2: mean I wasn't the only one talking about that Kyler
• 48:04
  Speaker 2: was trying to get moved, and the news came out
• 48:05
  Speaker 2: that his injury is actually a lot longer into the
• 48:07
  Speaker 2: season than people predicted. Most people thought he'd be back
• 48:10
  Speaker 2: by week two or three of the preseason. It's not
• 48:13
  Speaker 2: really looking that way. So four and a half for
• 48:16
  Speaker 2: the worst team of football seems right. I mean there's
• 48:18
  Speaker 2: a lot of question marks at Kyler, this coaching staff,
• 48:22
  Speaker 2: and just the future of this team. And yes, if
• 48:25
  Speaker 2: you can have Houston's draft pick in your own and
• 48:28
  Speaker 2: you can have two top five picks in a year,
• 48:30
  Speaker 2: that who knows how good these quarterbacks are coming out
• 48:33
  Speaker 2: next year. But it's one of those where I feel
• 48:36
  Speaker 2: like they don't have a choice, like they have to
• 48:37
  Speaker 2: end up. They're probably gonna have to end up taking
• 48:39
  Speaker 2: all these quarterbacks and move off Kyler Murray. So to
• 48:41
  Speaker 2: meet Chad the when you're looking at number this low,
• 48:45
  Speaker 2: I mean usually don't like taking unders this low. I
• 48:47
  Speaker 2: honestly like last year, I think our lowest total was
• 48:51
  Speaker 2: I think we took Bears five and a half and
• 48:52
  Speaker 2: we were scared. Remember they won three games in the
• 48:54
  Speaker 2: first month and a half, and we were like, surely
• 48:57
  Speaker 2: that was a bad bet. I don't think we'll have
• 48:59
  Speaker 2: to worry about that with it Arizona team. So I'm
• 49:01
  Speaker 2: with Freeman. I'm not gonna put a big bet on it.
• 49:03
  Speaker 2: I got that at four wins, so four and a
• 49:06
  Speaker 2: half feels right. I'm gonna take this under here, no
• 49:09
  Speaker 2: division odds, nothing for them. I just I love betting
• 49:12
  Speaker 2: shitty teams to win the divisions. This like they could
• 49:14
  Speaker 2: have gave me. I don't know, two thousand and one
• 49:17
  Speaker 2: odds on this divisional odds, I probably still wouldn't bet it.
• 49:20
  Speaker 2: I just there is no scenario unless literally all these
• 49:23
  Speaker 2: other teams just fall fall off a cliff. Arizona maybe
• 49:26
  Speaker 2: can do it, but I just don't believe it. So
• 49:28
  Speaker 2: to me, Chad, I hate going with the public. This
• 49:31
  Speaker 2: is one of the most this is one of the
• 49:32
  Speaker 2: most heavily bet public bets right now. I saw Action
• 49:34
  Speaker 2: tweeted out earlier today, the under four and a half.
• 49:38
  Speaker 2: I'll deal with Chad. I'll join the public, and I'll
• 49:39
  Speaker 2: take the under four and a half. It just feels like
• 49:41
  Speaker 2: the right number for a team that just has no
• 49:43
  Speaker 2: identity right now.
• 49:45
  Speaker 1: We did bet the Texans under four and a half.
• 49:46
  Speaker 1: I think last year or two years ago and we
• 49:50
  Speaker 1: cashed it. And yes, we talked about the Cardinals as
• 49:57
  Speaker 1: well as the Steelers and I think the brown as
• 50:00
  Speaker 1: three of our favorite Week one bets. You can check
• 50:05
  Speaker 1: those out in the Action Network app. Follow me Simon,
• 50:08
  Speaker 1: you can follow Simon. You can also follow Matthew Friedman
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