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LIVE from training camp | Jags Drive Time: Thursday, July 28 · The Jacksonville Jaguars Official Podcast Network

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Speaker 1: Welcome to Jacks Drive jo with Ashland Sullivansullan, John Oceans,
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Speaker 1: Brian Sexton. Jangs Drive starts right now. I'm really ready
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Speaker 1: doin it in the past now because I've been out
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Speaker 1: of past for so long since National Championship and just
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Speaker 1: finbably be able to really strike somebody and be physical
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Speaker 1: as I can. I'm ready to get back into that.
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Speaker 1: Like Trayvon Walker, I think we all can agree we
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Speaker 1: are ready for the Pats to go on this Sunday,
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Speaker 1: But until then we have a ton to talk about. It.
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Speaker 1: It's day for training camp here a to Piscopal High
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Speaker 1: School in It is our first Jaguars Drive time back
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Speaker 1: of the season. Ashland Sullivan, Brian Sexon, Deeth Loghman here
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Speaker 1: with you Live. It is day four. We have a
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Speaker 1: lot to talk about, Brian. It's been an eventful offseason.
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Speaker 1: We're finally seeing some football, which is nice finally and
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Speaker 1: you know, you talk about the pads coming on and Jeff,
1:02
Speaker 1: obviously we go back to a time where you were
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Speaker 1: wearing pads twice a day, much to your chagrin. Um
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Speaker 1: and they've been smart with players, you know, through the
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Speaker 1: off season into camp. Here the way that they've put
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Speaker 1: the gladiator shields on the helmets and things of that nature.
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Speaker 1: What do you expect when pads go on it? Are
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Speaker 1: they still gonna be smarter? Are we gonna see just
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Speaker 1: limited parts of hitting? Or do you expect him to
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Speaker 1: go old school? Well, let me start with this and that.
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Speaker 1: I think the way that is or what has been
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Speaker 1: has become is incredible. The safety first, up with the
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Speaker 1: helmet protectors, the acclamation periods, the way they work the
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Speaker 1: players into it. I think that's smart. Uh. And boy,
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Speaker 1: I wish it existed all the way back when I
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Speaker 1: was playing, because I mean it's just smart. Uh. What
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Speaker 1: it will be like when it gets the pads, I
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Speaker 1: can tell you this, Doug Peterson form hnerstand is gonna
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Speaker 1: run a very demanding camp. Now that's as demanding as
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Speaker 1: you can run under the CBA rules. So how demanding
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Speaker 1: can that be? A lot of the old timers would say, Ah,
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Speaker 1: these guys, they they don't know how good they got it.
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Speaker 1: But you can still make a very demanding camp with
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Speaker 1: then the rules. And I expect to make it as
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Speaker 1: demanding as he can. In the all season, we saw
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Speaker 1: this this time of healing the time of healing is
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Speaker 1: over the time for football is now very true. That
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Speaker 1: brings us right into big things. Big thing one is
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Speaker 1: the vibe. And I will say we talked about so
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Speaker 1: much in the option and I almost forgot about it.
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Speaker 1: But with all the national media here, everyone is talking
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Speaker 1: about how different this team up field, and I think
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Speaker 1: Josh Allen said it best earlier this week. Under Doug Peterson,
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Speaker 1: things are just different. Man. It feels good to be
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Speaker 1: to be a part, you know, just to be a
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Speaker 1: part of professional locker room. Not only in the locker room,
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Speaker 1: but when you talk to the coaches. It's a professional setting.
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Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, it's you got to hone
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Speaker 1: onto the details. You know what I'm saying. If you're
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Speaker 1: not listening to details, you know, it's not getting on you.
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Speaker 1: It's telling him what's right and what's wrong. And you know,
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Speaker 1: as guys is going, man, we need to understand that,
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Speaker 1: and he's put it away. If we can understand it
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Speaker 1: and grow, he's not getting on us. He's let us
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Speaker 1: know what's real and he's talking to us like grown man.
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Speaker 1: Big thing too is next steps for Trevor Lawrence. We're
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Speaker 1: all hoping to see that second year jump that we
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Speaker 1: may be saw with a Justin Herbert or a Joe Burrow.
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Speaker 1: For now, we're seeing Trevor progress every single day on
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Speaker 1: the training camp and offensive coinear press Taylor gave a
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Speaker 1: great example of that. I know, and I've seen how
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Speaker 1: hard he's worked to get himself back, uh this spring,
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Speaker 1: this summer. You know, he's he was here all summer
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Speaker 1: working with the guys and and with Fergie and the
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Speaker 1: medical team, and he's done a great job of putting
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Speaker 1: himself in a position to where we don't have to
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Speaker 1: do that and uh, but still still be cautious with
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Speaker 1: him and um, you know, make sure he's ready when
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Speaker 1: when he's ready. And finally, big thing three is the
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Speaker 1: return of James Robinson and Travis Etn both on the
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Speaker 1: practice field all four days this week for training camp.
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Speaker 1: Travisy e t and running with the ones all the week.
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Speaker 1: He had a run yesterday that coach was yelling bye bye.
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Speaker 1: That was really cool to see James Robinson running off
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Speaker 1: to the side. But the key is that he is running.
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Speaker 1: That alone is huge. I know, and I've seen how
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Speaker 1: hard he's worked to get himself back uh this spring,
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Speaker 1: this summer. You know, he's he was here all summer
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Speaker 1: working with the guys and and with Fergie and the
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Speaker 1: medical team, and he's done a great job of putting
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Speaker 1: himself in a position to where we don't have to
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Speaker 1: do that and uh, but still still be cautious with
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Speaker 1: them and um, you know, make sure he's ready when
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Speaker 1: when he's ready, and there you have it. Those are
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Speaker 1: big things. We are live here from training camp on
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Speaker 1: a Thursday, Day four of training camp, player day off, Tomorrow,
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Speaker 1: practice Saturday, and Sunday. Sunday pads go on. But Jeff,
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Speaker 1: we go back to big thing three. I think it's
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Speaker 1: the biggest story of training camp because I forget James
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Speaker 1: Robinson just tores Achilles in December. For him to be
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Speaker 1: back not on pup well, and I think there's two
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Speaker 1: reason and why he's not on PUB. Number one is
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Speaker 1: is that you don't have a facility at the stadium
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Speaker 1: right now, so you need to be able to have
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Speaker 1: the player on the grass rehabilitating. I don't expect James
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Speaker 1: Robinson to be ready maybe until November. And maybe I'm
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Speaker 1: a little on the pessimistic. You got to be cautious.
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Speaker 1: You're talking about I don't want to say he's the
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Speaker 1: greatest franchise running back ever because it's Fred Taylor Mori's
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Speaker 1: Jones Drew. But he's a great player and we saw
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Speaker 1: a couple of years ago he was the best offensive weapons.
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Speaker 1: So you gotta be patient, and that's doing him right.
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Speaker 1: You know, he's not an explosive guy anyway. You want
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Speaker 1: to make sure you get him back to what he
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Speaker 1: does really well, which he's got that innate sense of
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Speaker 1: what's happening around him and that side slide movement where
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Speaker 1: he just takes advantage of the opportunity that's there. So
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Speaker 1: I would rather have him closer to a hundred percent
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Speaker 1: than say, well, at least I've got James Robinson. I
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Speaker 1: think he's better in November. Remember now, this Achilles thing,
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Speaker 1: you've seen guys not come back from it, So make
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Speaker 1: sure you give yourself your best opportunity. The running back
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Speaker 1: for the Rams that came back last year, zach Um,
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Speaker 1: the cam Akers, cam Akers comes back in like six months.
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Speaker 1: That's the exception, and a lot of people kind of
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Speaker 1: see that and say, well, that should be the rule.
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Speaker 1: James Robinson, that's not the Cakes that That's just one
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Speaker 1: of those rare occurrences of a player coming back, and
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Speaker 1: he was very fortunate, much like Jerry Rice came back
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Speaker 1: from an a c L. I think in like five months.
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Speaker 1: Scott Woodson was the only other guy that ever did that.
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Speaker 1: And that's it. I mean, that's freakish athleticism. So I
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Speaker 1: think that's good to hear because I think it has
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Speaker 1: been a little misleading this week when we see James
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Speaker 1: Robinson on the field and uniform and you're seeing on Twitter,
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Speaker 1: oh my gosh, he's back, He's gonna start week one.
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Speaker 1: To hear that, it almost makes you feel better because
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Speaker 1: you think week one, man, that's really soon. Well, and
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Speaker 1: let me explain something about what I said about not
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Speaker 1: being on PUP. Okay, if if you're on PUP, you
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Speaker 1: can't be around football Okay, you can't be around football coaches,
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Speaker 1: you can't be around the football drills. You would are
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Speaker 1: essentially limited to working with an athletic trainer. Well, your
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Speaker 1: facility is under construction. The only thing that you really
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Speaker 1: have to work at will be an indoor facility. And
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Speaker 1: the reality is is having one additional player on the
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Speaker 1: roster gonna make you that much better to where you're saying, Okay,
7:06
Speaker 1: we need that roster spot for training camp. It's the
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Speaker 1: best thing in the world is for James Robinson to
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Speaker 1: have the best access to rehabilitation that he does, which
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Speaker 1: is these luxurious grass fields that we are on, by
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Speaker 1: the way, which is amazing year at pitstoph High School.
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Speaker 1: I think it's worth noting that you can be comfortable
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Speaker 1: because we thought, yeah, Travis e TN coming back from
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Speaker 1: a Liz Frank which is another career ender generally for
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Speaker 1: a running back. We've seen that happen before, and James
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Speaker 1: Robinson with the Achilles, Well, yesterday we saw that run
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Speaker 1: by Travis e T and with okay, you can feel
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Speaker 1: comfortable that one of your two guys is gonna be
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Speaker 1: ready to go on opening day, and with him where
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Speaker 1: he hit that second gear and you heard the coaches
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Speaker 1: saying bye bye, Okay, that's what I needed to see
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Speaker 1: and to give people a little idea of the play
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Speaker 1: that we're talking about. It was essentially an inside zone
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Speaker 1: and then ray Shawn Jenkins the safety comes down and
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Speaker 1: then all of a sudden, Travis bounces it to the
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Speaker 1: outside and then that's where that second gear you're talking about.
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Speaker 1: It was cool and until we saw we didn't know
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Speaker 1: what it was coming back because you remember Corey Grant
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Speaker 1: did the exact same injury in Kansas City. We never
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Speaker 1: saw him again. So when you get this guy out
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Speaker 1: there and showing us that, well, then you feel more
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Speaker 1: comfortable At James Robinson take his time. Yes, that was
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Speaker 1: awesome to see. Another awesome thing to see this week
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Speaker 1: has been at Trevor Lawrence. And really what's been cool
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Speaker 1: as you see Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday. Alright, a progressive step
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Speaker 1: forward and I think the biggest thing for him is
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Speaker 1: that it's year two. He played all of last year
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Speaker 1: and a lot of people point to, well it was
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Speaker 1: the last year with Urban Meyron all that, okay, but
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Speaker 1: still he played. And Doug Peterson alluded to that the
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Speaker 1: very first day before the first practice, he talked about
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Speaker 1: the greatest thing that Trevor had was that he played
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Speaker 1: all of last year, so he got to see the
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Speaker 1: defensive looks. Yes, it's a different system this year, and
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Speaker 1: you know, I can kind of sit here a little
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Speaker 1: subtle chip on his shoulder brand to hear that he
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Speaker 1: talks and he started planning on having a bad years.
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Speaker 1: Trevor is so good about the way he handles the media. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: and he's uh, perfect, But you can just read between
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Speaker 1: the lines just a little bit. There's a burning fire
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Speaker 1: inside of him that exists obviously because of the kind
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Speaker 1: of player that he is. Well, what I've seen from
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Speaker 1: him is taking chances down the field, hitting the seams
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Speaker 1: with Dan Arnold the other day, going for the deep
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Speaker 1: ball with either Christian Kirker's a Jones. There's a comfort
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Speaker 1: level he's got. And I watched him walk back to
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Speaker 1: Doug Peterson and they both nodded like that's what we're
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Speaker 1: gonna do, and the smile on his face it's clear,
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Speaker 1: and it would be any way I think for a
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Speaker 1: quarterback in his second year, but it's clear he's in control. Yes,
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Speaker 1: no words need to be saved, Trevor Lawrence. It is
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Speaker 1: just improving and we hope to see more throws like
9:37
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Speaker 1: here of day four of training camp out Episcopal High School.
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Speaker 1: We're back Jaguars Drive Time. Brian, Jeff Flagaman, Ashland Sullivan
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Speaker 1: here with you are watching offensive Line live right now,
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Speaker 1: and we're really excited, per Son. And when we see
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Speaker 1: it by move Day and Jeff has to go with
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Speaker 1: the obvious. Trevor Lawrence, of course, I look Trevor is
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Speaker 1: uh is the franchise and that's the reality. And when
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Speaker 1: you pick the quarterback number one overall, and many people
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Speaker 1: believe that he's a generational talent, I just can't wait.
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Speaker 1: I think this year he will be the most improved
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Speaker 1: quarterback in the National Football League. And from what I've
12:24
Speaker 1: seen so far, from what I've seen in the past,
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Speaker 1: I don't think there's any doubt in my mind. I
12:29
Speaker 1: love to hear that, Brian, you have Dan Arnold, I believe. Yeah.
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Speaker 1: So I think Dan Arnold is going to be the
12:34
Speaker 1: Jaguars version Jeff of Wes Welker, uh Danny Amondola. He's
12:38
Speaker 1: taller than those guys. Those guys were the little slot receivers,
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Speaker 1: but they were crafty and Dan Arnold is not the
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Speaker 1: greatest athlete, but he has a way of getting open.
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Speaker 1: We saw last year. He's gotten great hands and he's
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Speaker 1: just he's got this knack for being in the right
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Speaker 1: place at the right time. And I think he will
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Speaker 1: become the quarterbacks go to receiver on third down, the
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Speaker 1: guy that you need to be able to find. Um.
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Speaker 1: He won't dazzle people with that explosive down the field
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Speaker 1: sort of thing um, but what he might do is
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Speaker 1: have his best NFL season, be a fifty catch guy
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Speaker 1: and probably thirty of them will be for first downs.
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Speaker 1: And I think he might be a guy who can
13:16
Speaker 1: get you eight touchdowns of the end zone. Yeah, and
13:19
Speaker 1: I will admit I had someone else, and then after
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Speaker 1: watching yesterday's practice, I switched it to Tyson Campbell. He
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Speaker 1: will make a huge jump this season. And it's kind
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Speaker 1: of crazy to say that, because if we remember the
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Speaker 1: beginning of last year, we were questioning and he could
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Speaker 1: even play in the NFL. He had a couple of
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Speaker 1: rough weeks, we didn't know if it was gonna work out.
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Speaker 1: He made a jump. He's going to have another jump
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Speaker 1: this year. He won't be like normal cornerbacks. And I
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Speaker 1: say that just because of his attitude. He's a quiet guy.
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Speaker 1: I don't see him making this huge change and personality
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Speaker 1: and having swagger and the loudness on the field. But
13:51
Speaker 1: he might have had the all time best saying of
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Speaker 1: training camp. After yesterday's second past breakup, he yelled in
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Speaker 1: a Tyson Campbell yell, which was kind of just talking, saying,
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Speaker 1: it's like Chick fil A on a Sunday, I'm closed
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Speaker 1: for business, alright, So so I didn't I intentionally did
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Speaker 1: not say a couple of things about Trevor and I
14:09
Speaker 1: want to say this, okay, because I didn't cover them,
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Speaker 1: won't And the reason why What did Trevor do last
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Speaker 1: year that amazed everybody? Leadership? Okay, And here's what he
14:22
Speaker 1: won't have to do this year is carry the burden
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Speaker 1: of all that leadership because of Doug Peterson and this
14:28
Speaker 1: staff and the players that they brought in. That's gonna
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Speaker 1: be I think the biggest reason that the quarterback will
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Speaker 1: make that jump in year two. I'm so excited for him.
14:39
Speaker 1: I was excited when he was drafted, and then last
14:41
Speaker 1: year you're like, Okay, you know he's gonna have rookie
14:43
Speaker 1: rookie growing pains. But in year two, I can't wait
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Speaker 1: to see what it's gonna look like. So I'm gonna
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Speaker 1: go back to what you were talking about Tyson Campbell.
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Speaker 1: We saw him look lost at times last year, and
14:54
Speaker 1: that's not unusual for a rookie. What do you suppose
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Speaker 1: it must be the difference? Was it the scheme adjustments
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Speaker 1: they made or was it just time on task? Because
15:01
Speaker 1: Fred Taylor knows the kid from South Florida and said,
15:03
Speaker 1: just wait, just wait, was it schem er. Was it
15:06
Speaker 1: him just getting more experience. I think it was partly both.
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Speaker 1: And I think the scheme adjustment was significant for him
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Speaker 1: because if you'll remember going back to last year when
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Speaker 1: Joe Cullen was running this defense, they were trying to
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Speaker 1: play a lot of man. Well, when you play a
15:20
Speaker 1: lot of man as a defensive back, your back has
15:21
Speaker 1: turned to the quarterback. Well, they realized they couldn't play
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Speaker 1: a lot of man. It wasn't being very successful, so
15:27
Speaker 1: they switched and started to play a little bit more zone,
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Speaker 1: and they talked about it. Well, part of making that
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Speaker 1: switch now allows Tyson Campbell to have his eyes and
15:35
Speaker 1: his body looking back towards the quarterback. That allowed him,
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Speaker 1: I think, to gain some confidence and then partly through
15:41
Speaker 1: gaining that confidence and playing better that way, then he
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Speaker 1: was able to play better with his back to the
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Speaker 1: quarterback when he was asked to play man. And I'm
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Speaker 1: excited about him because there's not many cornerbacks in the
15:53
Speaker 1: league and he's similar to Jaalen in a lot of
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Speaker 1: in a lot of different ways, most significantly length. There's
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Speaker 1: not a lot of her backs that have that length,
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Speaker 1: and Tyson has the length. And when you have the speed,
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Speaker 1: to go with the length. Now you can have something special. Yeah,
16:06
Speaker 1: pretty obvious. How looks more confident? And let me let
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Speaker 1: me have you know Dan Arnold, I love him, I
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Speaker 1: love him. But Evan Ingram also, how many tough catches
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Speaker 1: did you see him make? Like shoestring grabs for Trevor
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Speaker 1: when everybody's raving about Trevor had no incompletions. Well there
16:23
Speaker 1: was a couple of tough catches by Evan Evan Ingraham,
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Speaker 1: you know. So I think the combination of Ingram and
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Speaker 1: also Dan Arnold there's gonna be significant. Have you read
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Speaker 1: the coach's book, Doug's bit book Fearless? Okay, it's great read.
16:37
Speaker 1: I've been raving about it for did he write it
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Speaker 1: or did he have somebody d Dan Pompey helped write it.
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Speaker 1: But the point is is that he talks a lot
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Speaker 1: about Alshon Jeffrey and the X factor that all Sean
16:48
Speaker 1: Jeffrey was on that tie ten team. And I think
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Speaker 1: that's what Evan Ingram is going to be because he's
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Speaker 1: a big receiver and a guy that, like Dan Arnold,
16:56
Speaker 1: has a sense for where to be. Plus I think
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Speaker 1: he's got great speed more than Dan does I wouldn't
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Speaker 1: be able to take advantage of that. All. Sean Jeffrey
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Speaker 1: did one thing for the Eagles. Easy completions. Yeah, okay,
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Speaker 1: Dan Arnold, Evan Ingram, Travis e t n. Those are
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Speaker 1: three players that are going to give our quarterback easy completions.
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Speaker 1: Jaguars Drive Time. We're live on Thursday, live from training
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Speaker 1: camp at Episcopal High School. We're gonna talk receivers. But
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Speaker 1: I have to say this being a high school, pretty
20:06
Speaker 1: cool that this is ten minutes down the road. It
20:08
Speaker 1: has been seen with and maybe that's a testament to
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Speaker 1: Doug Peterson and his leadership. I haven't noticed any hiccups. Well,
20:13
Speaker 1: let me let me say what it also takes besides
20:15
Speaker 1: leadership money, So this didn't just like occur out of nowhere.
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Speaker 1: I mean so, but it's a it's an amazing job.
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Speaker 1: And and credit to Hamza who is on the Jaguar staff.
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Speaker 1: The folks at Episcopal, the grounds crew that the Jaguars have.
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Speaker 1: I know, it was kind of a confluence of great
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Speaker 1: effort to be able to make this is what it is.
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Speaker 1: You know, if you're an Episcopal student and an athlete
20:40
Speaker 1: in particular, you're gonna can't wait to get out of
20:42
Speaker 1: her practice, whether it's football or soccer, or field hockey
20:45
Speaker 1: or lacrosse. I mean it is spectacular, yeah, and pretty
20:47
Speaker 1: cool for a high school or to see something we
20:49
Speaker 1: just saw, which is Christian Kirk playing on this field.
20:51
Speaker 1: And this is the guy we even have had the
20:52
Speaker 1: chance to talk about the wide receivers, and I remember
20:55
Speaker 1: last season the big topic in training camp was who
20:58
Speaker 1: are going to be the six? Who are going to
21:00
Speaker 1: make the team. I don't really feel like that's even
21:02
Speaker 1: a topic this year. You know who the six are
21:05
Speaker 1: and they're noticeably different, and Christian Kirk is leading a
21:07
Speaker 1: charge well first of all. Of when I talked about
21:10
Speaker 1: the other three guys, ETN, Dan Arnold and Evan Ingram,
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Speaker 1: easy completions, Okay, the next step for a wide receiver
21:17
Speaker 1: is that's that's your next easiest completion, and that's gonna
21:20
Speaker 1: be Christian Kirk because he has been a very quarterback
21:23
Speaker 1: friendly wide receiver because the ones that are typically closer
21:26
Speaker 1: to the quarterback, you want him to be easier completions
21:29
Speaker 1: from the wide receiver group. And Evan Ingram is or
21:32
Speaker 1: excuse me, Christian Kirk is an outstanding slot receiver. Now
21:36
Speaker 1: there's been talk about, well, we're gonna move him all
21:38
Speaker 1: over the place, because the coaches have said that that
21:41
Speaker 1: may happen. But Christian Kirk's home and where he's comfortable
21:45
Speaker 1: and where he's best is in the slot, and if
21:48
Speaker 1: you move him out of his comfort zone, he might
21:50
Speaker 1: have success, but he won't be that dominant player. He's
21:53
Speaker 1: gonna make a big difference as a slot receiver, but
21:56
Speaker 1: he will do a little bit more. How much of
21:58
Speaker 1: what you've seen from z owned so far gives you
22:01
Speaker 1: the confidence to just say, okay, Christie, let's put you
22:03
Speaker 1: where you've been most productive, and we'll move you when
22:06
Speaker 1: we need to. Well. Z Jones is a guy that's
22:08
Speaker 1: got great straight line speed. Right, He's a guy that
22:10
Speaker 1: can take the top off of a defense. And what
22:13
Speaker 1: you want to do is slat receivers create room. Well,
22:15
Speaker 1: room doesn't happen unless you have somebody that threatens the
22:18
Speaker 1: vertical aspect of a defense, and so I think Za
22:21
Speaker 1: Jones Marvin Jones to some extent, can do a little
22:24
Speaker 1: bit of that. But Za Jones is somebody that defensive
22:27
Speaker 1: coordinators go, we have to make sure we have somebody
22:30
Speaker 1: over the top on him, and that kind of stretches
22:32
Speaker 1: things and the defense that opens up areas for a
22:35
Speaker 1: Christian curt So you know, it's like a puzzle and
22:37
Speaker 1: you put these pieces together. So then the question mark,
22:40
Speaker 1: and I know you're gonna ask this, so I'll do
22:41
Speaker 1: it for you. How does Lavisca Sian All fit in?
22:44
Speaker 1: I believe that and I've always believed this about Lavisca.
22:49
Speaker 1: Lavisca is not just a wide receiver. Lavisca is a
22:52
Speaker 1: wide receiver, He's an H back tight end, he's a
22:56
Speaker 1: running back, and I think he is a mix of
22:59
Speaker 1: all of those and if he's used in that fashion,
23:02
Speaker 1: then I think he can be a very productive player
23:05
Speaker 1: if you put him in just the wide receiver role
23:07
Speaker 1: or just try to convert him to an H back up.
23:10
Speaker 1: He's multitalented, but I don't think he excels at anything
23:14
Speaker 1: in particular. The one thing he does excel at is
23:17
Speaker 1: once he gets the ball in his hand. He's physical,
23:21
Speaker 1: and he and he can make extra yardage yards after catch,
23:24
Speaker 1: yards after contact, especially because he's he's so big, he's
23:27
Speaker 1: two twenty plus and he's a rock. So I think
23:30
Speaker 1: he's gonna have a very mixed role. We've seen a
23:32
Speaker 1: little bit of that here in training camp, without talking
23:34
Speaker 1: about too much of scheme stuff, but I think that's
23:37
Speaker 1: the perfect role for him, and and I think that
23:39
Speaker 1: that is gonna be where he's most comfortable at and
23:42
Speaker 1: that's gonna make him a shoeing to make this roster
23:45
Speaker 1: because a lot of people talk, well, is he gonna
23:47
Speaker 1: make it? He's a talent, He's got a lot of
23:48
Speaker 1: he's got a lot of special talent. I think it's
23:51
Speaker 1: very cool for the Viscus almost how self aware he is,
23:54
Speaker 1: a guy that was here every single day in the
23:55
Speaker 1: off season. We see the weight he's putting on. I
23:58
Speaker 1: think he realizes, I didn't have my best year last year,
24:01
Speaker 1: moving around almost too much. We're seeing the improvement. And
24:04
Speaker 1: let me add this, I think in years past, and
24:08
Speaker 1: not to bring up the past too much, but in
24:10
Speaker 1: years past, it was always talked about what guy's roles
24:14
Speaker 1: were gonna be from from the staff. This staff and
24:19
Speaker 1: coaches in general talk about what the roles players are
24:23
Speaker 1: gonna earn. Okay, there's a difference. You have to let
24:27
Speaker 1: the performance determine what the roles are gonna be. And
24:30
Speaker 1: that's what I love about Doug Peterson and staff because
24:33
Speaker 1: the coaches they know that's something is not given. I
24:37
Speaker 1: have to ask you one quick question before we go
24:39
Speaker 1: to break. You saw Deebo Samuel and everyone's thinking, well,
24:41
Speaker 1: could Levis could be Deebo Samuel. We saw Cordell Patterson
24:44
Speaker 1: last year, you know in Atlanta carve a rollout in
24:47
Speaker 1: his first year with the Falcons. Can you see big
24:50
Speaker 1: production from Levisco? Where is that too much to app No?
24:52
Speaker 1: I think that's too much. I Deebo I think is
24:54
Speaker 1: a very special talent when he has the ball in
24:56
Speaker 1: his hands. Coral Patterson same thing, excellent runner with the
24:58
Speaker 1: ball in his hands. I think it's a It's a
25:01
Speaker 1: little different here with Laviska. I think Lavisca has a
25:04
Speaker 1: little bit more because you can't ask deep o'sail or
25:07
Speaker 1: those guys to play an H back role. I think
25:10
Speaker 1: Lavis could can play like an H back role and
25:13
Speaker 1: and be a willing blocker on the edge of an
25:15
Speaker 1: offense and take on a linebacker and you can expect
25:18
Speaker 1: for a stalemate. Uh those other guys right, not so much.
25:22
Speaker 1: Being able to do a lot of jobs a very
25:24
Speaker 1: good thing nowadays. And I think he's got I'll say
25:27
Speaker 1: this when when I got into the NFL, which was nine,
25:31
Speaker 1: there was a equipment manager, head guy in the New
25:34
Speaker 1: York Jets, and he was very well respected around the
25:38
Speaker 1: National Football League, Bill Hampton Senior, one of the best,
25:41
Speaker 1: and the Hampton family great respect for all of them.
25:44
Speaker 1: And he came in and he used to say to me,
25:46
Speaker 1: young man, the more you can do, the more you
25:50
Speaker 1: can do now and applies on the football field. But
25:55
Speaker 1: his little side benefit was he was getting you to
25:57
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Speaker 1: You're looking at a live look of the Jaguars practice facility.
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Speaker 1: Football facility going up. I'll say this is going up
28:03
Speaker 1: really quickly. We notice improvements every single weeks. The training
28:06
Speaker 1: camp will be there next year and so now we're
28:08
Speaker 1: at Episcopal High School and I got to say it
28:11
Speaker 1: is an awesome facility. It's definitely doing the job this year.
28:13
Speaker 1: And Sunday the pads go on the big day. Jeff,
28:16
Speaker 1: what are we most excited for? Well, let me say this.
28:19
Speaker 1: That's full pads. Okay. And and I used to have
28:21
Speaker 1: this discussion with Tom. Was it a discussion or is
28:25
Speaker 1: it one of these Oh no, he used to fight
28:29
Speaker 1: with him. Discussion is always relative with Okay. But Saturday
28:33
Speaker 1: they will be in what was considered or is considered uppers,
28:36
Speaker 1: which is shoulder pad. So the contact really begins on Saturday.
28:40
Speaker 1: Full pads. Now you add fipads, full kneepads, and then
28:44
Speaker 1: it becomes full pads. And me and Coffin used to
28:46
Speaker 1: have discussion because he would consider when we were in uppers,
28:48
Speaker 1: we had five pads, no knee pads, and then full
28:51
Speaker 1: pads was full pads, you know, even the knee pads, right.
28:53
Speaker 1: So he used to tell me, he said, you know,
28:54
Speaker 1: I'm giving you this break because we're not in full
28:56
Speaker 1: pads were it was my new pads out. I love him.
29:02
Speaker 1: How much do you need? How if you're an NFL
29:05
Speaker 1: player today, how much time in pads do you need
29:07
Speaker 1: before the first game next week, before the start of
29:09
Speaker 1: the Everyone's very worried about that. I only got four
29:12
Speaker 1: days till again. Yeah, and that, well, here's the thing.
29:16
Speaker 1: That game doesn't matter a whole lot, okay. And I'm
29:19
Speaker 1: not trying to be negative and downplay the Hall of
29:22
Speaker 1: Fame game because it's still a competitive atmosphere. But the
29:26
Speaker 1: most important thing is what you're striving for, which is
29:29
Speaker 1: the first game of the season, not not one first
29:32
Speaker 1: game in the preseason, in the Hall of Fame game,
29:33
Speaker 1: which is an extra game in the preseason. So there's
29:36
Speaker 1: a there's a build up period and Doug Peterson has
29:39
Speaker 1: that in mind. Is it enough to get guys perfect, No,
29:44
Speaker 1: but it's a great tool to evaluate your second, third,
29:49
Speaker 1: and fourth bubble guys that may or may not be
29:51
Speaker 1: able to make a football team. You're not gonna play
29:54
Speaker 1: your starters in the Hall of Fame game, so you're
29:56
Speaker 1: not you're not doing anything in mind. First night about
30:00
Speaker 1: pay I want to see the running drills on Sunday.
30:03
Speaker 1: I want to see them get into that nine on
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Speaker 1: seven and I want to see E. T. N hit
30:07
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Speaker 1: be well. We're looking forward to it. Thank you for
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