Latest / Into the Channel ⚽️ A Podcast Primarily About Women's Football / Real Madrid and Arsenal Advance to the UWCL QFs (Live!)
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- 0:03OK, I think I think we'll eventually get to this.
- 0:06Welcome to Into the Channel podcast for our middle valve
- 0:08host football. I'm your host, Dean de Sespicos
- 0:10and as always, I'm joined by my very patient Co host, Mr. Grant
- 0:14Angle. What is up man?
- 0:16I'm feeling fantastic, buddy. The UEFA Women's Champions
- 0:19League back again for a second week and I'm always patient.
- 0:23Yeah, we're trying to go live. Whether it works or not, we'll
- 0:25see. We'll get the, I mean, look,
- 0:27we're, we're progressing through the tournament just like other
- 0:30teams. We're just so good that we can
- 0:32work out these things whilst still progressing.
- 0:36That's right. Yeah.
- 0:36You know, not quite a debutante, but, you know, we're still,
- 0:39we're still alive, still in the mix.
- 0:40Looks like we're mostly live. I think a good a good afternoon
- 0:45in football. Some some wild weather.
- 0:48I'm glad we we we were indoors for all of it.
- 0:50Mr. Grand Engel, where you want to get started?
- 0:52Let's get started with a beverage to celebrate the
- 0:54return. I know it's only been a week
- 0:56this time but still I miss it when it's gone.
- 1:00Let's do this. Cheers to you.
- 1:05Cheers to the football. Cheers to you, cheers to the
- 1:08football. What do you say we take a look
- 1:12at these matches in chronological order per custom.
- 1:17I love. It.
- 1:19Let's talk about Real Madrid 2 Perry FC nil Real Madrid
- 1:24advancing 52-ON aggregate. Yeah, this one, I mean, I
- 1:28mentioned, I mentioned the weather, the wind, the
- 1:31windiness. This one was wacky from the
- 1:32start. I think there was a lot of just
- 1:35weird motions, you know, the ball behind the goalkeeper,
- 1:37insurance and outs and the, you know, just a lot of back and
- 1:41forth. Really good goalkeeping play in
- 1:43the first half kept this one nil nil and shout out to Real Madrid
- 1:47for for keeping it interesting. I think you know the the end
- 1:50aggregate scoreline probably not indicative of how close this
- 1:54matchup was, but a really entertaining first half.
- 1:57Not sure that the the the level of football was super high.
- 2:00Maybe defensively you can make a case, but good back and forth
- 2:03chances for both teams. I think Madrid probably, you
- 2:07know, should have walked away with with some more goals but
- 2:11event, you know, we, we end up with a very compelling first
- 2:14half and a second-half that was really entertaining.
- 2:17Yeah, totally agree with that. I think Real Madrid when maybe
- 2:21the Madrid Estas won't love this part, but Madrid did their part
- 2:25to keep the game close. They didn't finish in some spots
- 2:28where they probably could have. They didn't take advantage of
- 2:29some opportunities that they probably should have.
- 2:34We get let's, I mean we, you got to start the bidding with the
- 2:38red card on Greg Evol 4 minutes into the match, a clear red red
- 2:43card. One of my first thoughts I I
- 2:45think the announcer pointed it out too.
- 2:47In live action, rare to see a player pull the arm, pull the
- 2:52right arm of their opponent, and then still have enough time to
- 2:56work their way to the other side and then pull the left arm of
- 2:59their opponent. I mean, you know, no, no arm
- 3:02left unpulled. I think that's kind of like
- 3:03defensive, you know, fast. Number one we got that's that's
- 3:06foundational right there. I thought the ball was amazing.
- 3:09Amazing. I think, yeah, I thought
- 3:10feathers were great on that one. I thought it was going to be a
- 3:13clear goal. I mean, as soon as as soon as
- 3:15the ball gets kicked, I'm like, oh, here we go.
- 3:16This is, you know, they're going to they're going to crack the
- 3:18the seal on it. And what's wild is, you know,
- 3:22great ball gets to the red card very early.
- 3:25Your first instinct is to be like, you know, like, OK, that's
- 3:29it. You know, this this one's a
- 3:30wrap. And then my second instinct was,
- 3:34was that maybe a smart play, you know, especially considering
- 3:37like the the win and the weather, the goals were going to
- 3:40be, you know, like at a premium and the foul outside the box.
- 3:44So, you know, ends up in a free kick.
- 3:45You know, the free kick gets stuffed anyway.
- 3:47You know, you don't want to play with 10.
- 3:48But the flip side is if you go down that early in that weather,
- 3:53maybe, I don't know, maybe it's a maybe it's a wrap earlier.
- 3:56I love this. I mean this might be one of the
- 3:58greatest takes I've ever heard in my life.
- 4:01Could the could the 4th minute red card have been useful
- 4:05strategically? I mean, you know, to grave a
- 4:09balls credit, as you said, didn't allow a goal, now denied
- 4:14an obvious goal scoring opportunity dog.
- 4:16So always a fan of that. But yeah, I mean, I, I
- 4:21definitely sided landed on the first side where I was like, oh
- 4:25boy, they're in huge trouble. And look where it got me.
- 4:28I was a fool. They they managed to to stave
- 4:30off Real Madrid for the entire first half.
- 4:33Yep, turns out not so obvious. Maybe a heady play.
- 4:38I don't know, Maybe we're rewriting the strategy books
- 4:40here. But you know, Pierre Izzi comes
- 4:44back the other way, Picar gets a chance and Misa had a save.
- 4:49You know, we talked about this one that we we kind of joke
- 4:51about it because it ends 52 in aggregate.
- 4:53But that save that Misa has on Picard, you know, like when it's
- 4:57still 32 early in the first half, a diving save low into the
- 5:02I think was low into the left, just a a huge play kind of like
- 5:07against it. Like it in those moments when
- 5:09the the chances are going to be few and far between, you're
- 5:11looking for your goalkeeper to stay super duper sharp.
- 5:14And that was a moment where that chance came out of absolute
- 5:16nowhere. And if that goes in and it's 3
- 5:18three, it's pretty different because I think even with the
- 5:21red card pre FC was doing some pretty interesting stuff.
- 5:25And I think a lot of it is is dependent on, you know, how
- 5:29versatile their attackers and midfielders are.
- 5:32Like they can go from a 423 to a 432, you know, to kind of make
- 5:36up for it with Mateo kind of sliding up and back the mocha
- 5:39deck, the same thing. So I thought they were still
- 5:43pretty dangerous for most of it. Yeah, you're totally right.
- 5:47And I mean, yeah, I'm just trying to think of the math.
- 5:51What I think you are right about the 432, Yeah.
- 5:55Like once you're out there dealing with, you know, 10
- 5:58players on the pitch, they they just realized it's, it feels so
- 6:02easy to say like watching these matches and when a team goes
- 6:06down, a player of like, OK, your only chances, you got to take
- 6:11your chances as efficiently as possible, usually in transition,
- 6:14you know, maybe force a turnover, figure something out
- 6:16like that. But then you got to stay compact
- 6:18and then you got to play defense.
- 6:20Way easier to say than it is to actually accomplish, especially
- 6:23when you're up, you know, against the Champions League
- 6:25opponent like that. But Perry FC was was able to do
- 6:28it and you know, I I I think from Misa's past, which, you
- 6:34know, creates the red card. I don't know how you mark that
- 6:37in the into the channel record book.
- 6:38It's not quite an assist. It's an assisted red card by
- 6:42Misa who like forces grave of all into the mistake to get the
- 6:45red card on on feller. But I digress.
- 6:48I I was just at half time. I was like, I can't believe this
- 6:51match is 00 and I think things could get interesting in the
- 6:57second-half and that just speaks a lot.
- 6:59Even though it didn't end up that way, I think that says a
- 7:01lot about Perry F CS Heart. I mean, they were, they were
- 7:06tough all the way through, you know, and I thought defensively,
- 7:09you know, I, I just love what, how compact they were getting.
- 7:12You know, they have to take off. I know they bring on Deja Davis.
- 7:16I'm blanking on who they have to take off.
- 7:18They took off. Garbino.
- 7:20Garbino, yeah, Who had a shot? Who had a shot in the 1st 10
- 7:22minutes? Who logged a shot in that first
- 7:25portion of the match? So that was tough, But
- 7:28defensively I thought they played very compact.
- 7:30Selena will seen, you know, a huge workload.
- 7:34You know, she just had a tendency today to be pretty much
- 7:38physically overmatched and all of these matchups, you know, she
- 7:41looks like the smaller slider player, but she's always kind of
- 7:44like up under the you know, the attacker and you know, just, you
- 7:47know, like in in, you know, touch tight to quote, to quote
- 7:50the legend. And you know, like you just kind
- 7:53of feel for the pre FC Time Team as you watch them down the
- 7:57stretch, just start to physically wear down 10 players
- 8:01on the road, you know, like midweek weather conditions, you
- 8:06know, like it really was a slog. But to their credit, you know,
- 8:09they they were really, really tough still trying to score all
- 8:12the way all the way to the end. For sure.
- 8:15And like in, in the second-half, kind of like what around that
- 8:18like 50 minute mark, Yeah, 'cause Feller gets the goal in
- 8:24the 54th, around the 50th mark. I was like, oh boy.
- 8:27In my notes I have, is the dam starting to break here?
- 8:30Because like, you could start to see, and understandably so,
- 8:34Perry FC was physically and mentally exhausted, like trying
- 8:38to stay locked in and like keep that defensive shape and try to
- 8:42take your chances. And you're, you're doing like
- 8:44additional calculations at that point as a footballer on the
- 8:47field of like, oh, is this the, is this the opportunity or
- 8:49should I hang back to not leave ourselves too exposed?
- 8:53You could see that start to wear on them and when you start to
- 8:56get tired both mentally and physically.
- 8:59Eva Navarro not a great sight to see on the other side because
- 9:03she was cooking. I mean, you know, I I can't
- 9:08believe what she was doing down the stretch and it you know, I'm
- 9:11not to simplify it, but the first half was a lot of at the
- 9:15neon. One side was out for blood
- 9:17early, like just super duper hungry Kaiseto, you know,
- 9:22through the center of the park or pretty much whatever
- 9:24direction she wanted to go. And then I think kind of like
- 9:27when they wanted to go somewhere else, Evan Navarro on that right
- 9:30hand side whipping and crosses was just just what the doctor
- 9:34ordered right at that point. You you think it was like body
- 9:37blow, body blow on that left hand side.
- 9:39And then it was like what what exactly what previously didn't
- 9:42see coming, You know, great crossing and feller, you know,
- 9:46like you see you see players miss that one all the time.
- 9:48You know, especially on the volley, flying in, the ball,
- 9:50flying in, everybody flying in and military credit sticks it
- 9:54and, you know, pretty much changes the whole changes pretty
- 9:58much everything kind of, you know, kind of flips it.
- 10:00You know, it really depressurizes that situation in
- 10:02a huge way. Yeah, and so Navarro gets the
- 10:06assist on the Feller goal, which I think you're right, you know,
- 10:09a good touch. Yeah, you're right in front.
- 10:11Feels like a tap in. You got to make contact.
- 10:13You got to fight through the contact from your opponent to
- 10:16score it. A nice goal by Feller.
- 10:18Great. Even better pass by Navarro.
- 10:20And then speaking, I mentioned the Into the Channel record
- 10:24book. Got to be an assist or even a
- 10:27goal. I think you on an own goal.
- 10:29Do you just give Evan Navarro Evan Navarro pardon me, the goal
- 10:33on that. What is, you know, officially in
- 10:37some other official record book the the less official than the
- 10:39ITC record book An own goal by Ndongala.
- 10:42I mean, I put a goal in the right and I love 2 personal
- 10:46record book because the last player to touch it makes it
- 10:49happen. You know, You know, without her.
- 10:51And it's, it's like, it's all the different ways that Evan
- 10:54Navarro can can tip the scales. You know, it just kind of like
- 10:57right there on display. And then it really kind of got
- 11:00me thinking, I want to get ahead of myself, but I don't know that
- 11:03Barcelona match up, you know, you know, Madrid's got a lot of
- 11:07players I can slice through there.
- 11:09And if they could put five or six of those into the mixer, I
- 11:13don't know could, could, could make things pretty interesting.
- 11:16How interesting. We were talking about a pre
- 11:20show. I think I don't know if I'm
- 11:23going to up, I don't know if I'm going to up the ante on my pre
- 11:25show take, but I think they've got a puncher's chance versus
- 11:28Barcelona, Meaning if they won, I if they won in advanced, I
- 11:35would be surprised, but it it wouldn't seem like the
- 11:38impossible. I feel like you would need and I
- 11:42was thinking about this, you know, during the match, you kind
- 11:44of need all those players to give you 180 minutes of a, you
- 11:49know, a level football, right, And it's like they can do it.
- 11:54They're all great, but you know, they're all great players.
- 11:55They all have very high ceilings.
- 11:57You know, if and, and Barcelona, you know, there's some flux
- 12:01there. They still look great.
- 12:02You know, they're they're still producing at the absolute top,
- 12:05top level. They're still probably the best
- 12:07team in the world. Maybe you know, probably about
- 12:08it, but I don't know. I think this was going to be
- 12:11competitive, and I think we see this in other sports too.
- 12:13When there's some familiarity between the two sides, it does
- 12:17tend to bring those results a little bit closer together.
- 12:21I think it can, but in my in my ongoing quest to really, really,
- 12:28truly be the Barcelona guy on the show, and I know it's a
- 12:31tough job. It's hard to cheer for
- 12:34Barcelona, plucky underdogs as they are.
- 12:38I don't know, man. Like the big bad wolf is coming
- 12:42to town for Real Madrid. And, you know, yeah, we've had
- 12:47the the crazy result last season.
- 12:51I mean, you know, there was a there was a weird no call there
- 12:54and, you know, like some controversy in Real Madrid
- 12:57beating Barcelona last year. But I just think, I mean, it's
- 13:02gonna man, it's such a gigantic uphill battle.
- 13:06I think puncher's chance is fine, but it's like you the the
- 13:11puncher has to your point, I, I think you nailed it.
- 13:13Sorry, I'm I'm filibustering here.
- 13:15The puncher has to land A1 in a 1.5 million shot.
- 13:20I think like it's not a one in a million shot.
- 13:23It's slightly more than more than that.
- 13:25I mean, Barcelona, you know, in their last five matches,
- 13:29eighteen goals for one against, you know, they destroy ibar over
- 13:33the weekend, 4 nil. I know you know, we're not
- 13:35talking about Ibar like they're world beaters, but we're talking
- 13:38about Barcelona here kind of ramping up themselves.
- 13:41Who were their their goal scores verse Ibar, Eva Paillor, Claudia
- 13:46Pina, Patrick Guillarro and Irene Paredes.
- 13:51So, you know, they got a lot of good players.
- 13:54Yeah, those are good players. I mean, you know, and I'm
- 13:59probably getting colored by some of the things that we're seeing
- 14:01in some of the other leagues, you know, and I'm thinking
- 14:03about, you know, like a Chelsea here where it's like, you know,
- 14:06OK, when even if you're the biggest club, the biggest
- 14:09baddest club, if you don't take steps forward, you know, and and
- 14:13other clubs, you know, as a as a function of them chasing are
- 14:17going to take steps forward. What does that mean?
- 14:19You know, I'm not sure that it means that Madrid's going to get
- 14:22past Barcelona. Probably not.
- 14:23Wouldn't that definitely wouldn't bet on it.
- 14:25I don't think that Madrid necessarily looked great, you
- 14:28know, against pre FC, but I think my head goes to brief.
- 14:32If he's going to, you know, make it ugly, it's going to be a bit
- 14:35of a slugfest. I'm not going to really hold
- 14:37that against Real Madrid. They'll get the first one.
- 14:40I believe they'll get the first one at home.
- 14:41So we're going to learn a ton there.
- 14:43But I think there's I think they're going to be, you know
- 14:45what I feel very confident saying this tie is going to be
- 14:50close. You know, like even at the end
- 14:52of it, I think it's going to be within, you know, two or three
- 14:55goals Max. I don't think it's going to be a
- 14:575-6 goal, you know, just overwhelming.
- 15:02I think that's fair and I think depending on like what it looks
- 15:07like the a three goal difference on aggregate, there are
- 15:14different types of three goal differences on aggregate, right?
- 15:17So I guess we, we have that to parse to.
- 15:19I, I won't, I won't dive too far into that, but I could see it.
- 15:23I don't know, man. I I do wonder if once the dam
- 15:27breaks, to use that analogy again, it can get real, real
- 15:32scary against Barcelona pretty quickly.
- 15:36I'll, I'll say one more thing because I think the way Real
- 15:39Madrid's attack is constructed is different than let's say,
- 15:43like a Bayern, right, where Bayern is going to like, you
- 15:46know, really dissect you and work, work, work their way up
- 15:50the pitch. Madrid could like grab and go,
- 15:53you know, and I think, you know, whether it's out to me on one
- 15:55side, you know, fell air I thought was great today.
- 15:57But Linda Kay said, oh, we've talked a ton about this player.
- 16:01I'm not, you know, Linda Kaiser is not the best player, you
- 16:04know, in traffic, you know, and she's not the best player in
- 16:08full Sprint with the ball at her feet, but she's definitely the
- 16:11best player in the world in traffic with the ball at her
- 16:13feet. At full Sprint like that, you
- 16:16just cannot get anywhere near her.
- 16:18And it's like she consistently, it doesn't matter who's there.
- 16:21She just she treats everybody like a traffic cone and just
- 16:24runs right through wherever she wants to go.
- 16:27It's an unbelievable skill and I think that that that attack, how
- 16:32fast it is and how quick it can counter and how quick it could
- 16:35take advantage of a lot of open space, I think poses a pretty
- 16:39compelling case. I think that's totally fair.
- 16:43And I mean, you know, like in this match you you talked about
- 16:47Athanaya like trying to take her chances being playing really
- 16:50aggressive. Quick sidebar, on a scale of
- 16:54zero to 10, zero being I'm completely happy, I'm very
- 16:58satisfied with the way things went today.
- 17:00To 10 being I'm absolutely furious with the way I played
- 17:04today. Where do you think Ateneya del
- 17:06Castillo is right now? Or maybe like 45 minutes post
- 17:11match in that window. 45 minutes 10. 100% it's a 10.
- 17:16She had to be absolutely furious, like.
- 17:20She she had. Two goals on the table.
- 17:23Yeah, And she came out fired up. She came out just so fired up,
- 17:27you know? And I thought she, you know, she
- 17:29was like, right, Linda, it's going to be you and me.
- 17:32Like I'm going to be here for all of it.
- 17:34You know, you just put the ball out there, we'll go get it.
- 17:36But you know, I thought it like it's great to have a player like
- 17:43that that can take chances, that can put real pressure on the
- 17:46defense. And then you see what happens on
- 17:47the other side. You know, like I said, it's it's
- 17:49just chip away, chip away, chip away.
- 17:50And then Navarro just kind of breaks your back the other way.
- 17:53I do want to talk about the second match up.
- 17:56Arsenal advances over Lubin 3 one win today, 7/1 on aggregate.
- 18:04Your boy. I was close, man.
- 18:06You know, I don't usually root for Arsenal to give up a goal,
- 18:10but I I had 7-2 in my you know, I had, I had the clip fired up.
- 18:14I, you know, I was. I was ready.
- 18:16Dude, it was an outstanding call by you and it somehow it splits
- 18:21the difference on our podcast because what I said 6 nil on
- 18:26aggregate and like there is a point where they're up 55 nil on
- 18:29aggregate. And I was like, we're going to
- 18:31get there When, especially when the goal comes in the 22nd
- 18:34minute, I was like, play it out, play some defense, get your Subs
- 18:38in. You'll not show them another
- 18:39one. We're there.
- 18:41I'm going to be 100% right. Yeah, a real, real professional
- 18:44analysis by us. Just rooting for our picks and
- 18:46our predictions. Of course, full, full,
- 18:48responsible, fully responsible there.
- 18:52Arsenal moves on. The thing I want to talk about
- 18:54is Arsenal's first half, because I, I kind of lauded what they
- 19:00did last week, which was play really tight, close to the vest,
- 19:05don't give, don't give them any room to breathe.
- 19:07I think they had like one, one shot in this one.
- 19:11Louvin's got, I think they racked up 6 or so shots in the
- 19:14first half or five shots. They outshot Arsenal in the
- 19:17first half for sure. And I think equal shots on
- 19:21target. And obviously the scoreline is,
- 19:23was what it was at that point. I didn't, I didn't like how, you
- 19:27know, how much room Louvin had to kind of operate.
- 19:31You know, I wasn't so worried about scoring goals.
- 19:33I think, you know, some of the, the, the discourse at half
- 19:35times, oh, can we score a goal? You know, the scoreline is not
- 19:37big enough. Can we?
- 19:38And I'm like, that's, that's stupid.
- 19:39You know, Russo gets one in the 90th.
- 19:41You know, if they get another one in the 93rd, like, does that
- 19:43make it? I don't think it makes a
- 19:45difference at all. I would have liked to see,
- 19:46though, probably that continuation of that same level
- 19:49of kind of suffocating, frustrating kind of defense.
- 19:54But instead, Lubin kind of was not going to go out without a
- 19:57fight. I think it's the story of their
- 20:00tournament. They they punched above their
- 20:03weight class throughout the vast majority of of matches that they
- 20:07played in. You know, it awesome to see
- 20:11Sarah Pushtai get a goal in this spot, you know, at Borehamwood,
- 20:17another Champions League goal, I want to say her third of the
- 20:20tournament maybe. And you know, she, I thought
- 20:25Darian Jinx did a good job in the studio of the Paramount Plus
- 20:29post match. I I saw a little bit of it and
- 20:32Darian Jinx said that, you know, you know, pointed out the same
- 20:36thing that she arrived. Pushchai was like very clearly
- 20:41the best player for OH Louvin and, you know, deserves a lot of
- 20:44plaudits there. Yeah, I mean, they had a they
- 20:48had a few players that play played well.
- 20:50I thought Everett's played well. You know, Merchants goes out
- 20:52with the injury. Johnson, who we talked about Sen
- 20:55Java like big stops, but that's a champsy goalie right there for
- 20:59sure. They there's, they deserve a ton
- 21:03of, you know, just applause and, and appreciation because we've
- 21:08seen teams show up to this tournament and get absolutely
- 21:12rolled, you know, and I think teams with some pedigree with,
- 21:15with some brand behind them, with, with a little bit of money
- 21:17behind them, even, especially in this even even in this season.
- 21:21So to see Lewin come in and shout out to the our guy, the
- 21:25commentator on this one, Seb Hutchinson, who I I thought did
- 21:28a great job. Oh yeah.
- 21:30But I I got to give him a little Flack because he said there
- 21:32wasn't anybody out here. All right.
- 21:34I think he said everybody had Louvin predicted pre tournament
- 21:37at the very bottom of the field. But I'm here to tell said no, no
- 21:42problem. That was one of us.
- 21:44That was one of us out here. That put Louvin in the top 12 in
- 21:48the knockout stage and here we are.
- 21:49But outside of that, tremendous job by Hutchinson today.
- 21:54Yeah, tremendous job by you, Seth Hutchinson, sneaky
- 21:57contender for one of my favorite commentators in the tournament,
- 21:59no doubt. Yeah.
- 22:01I mean, you were you were on Louvin from the start.
- 22:03I think you could tell, you know, they were able to play
- 22:06tough in the midfield when they needed to.
- 22:09Obviously they, they understood they needed to, you know, sit
- 22:13back, play, you know, play defensive football, low block
- 22:18football, but they they also weren't afraid to take their
- 22:22chances. Again, it's another one of those
- 22:23things that we like understanding how difficult it
- 22:26must be for them under like seeing the team sheets, seeing
- 22:30the, the names on the back of those jerseys, you know, looking
- 22:33at the Crest on the front of the jerseys, understanding that
- 22:35you're probably out that you are thoroughly outgunned in, in in
- 22:39many of these matches and still playing the way they did.
- 22:43I one of the first things like after Arsenal pulled ahead and I
- 22:47was like, OK, you know, I'm going to.
- 22:49This is though, just the way it's going to be.
- 22:51I look forward to seeing Louvin again.
- 22:53I put that in my notes like two different times.
- 22:55I because I forgot about it the first time.
- 22:56I was like, we're going to see them again and I look forward to
- 22:58it. Definitely look forward to it
- 23:01and they'll be back for sure. I know they're, I think they're,
- 23:03they're kind of like pushing and pulling in the Belgian Super
- 23:06League. And I also added the Belgian
- 23:07Super League to our list of leagues that we're kind of
- 23:10keeping an eye on in our spreadsheets.
- 23:12So apologies for that, but I feel like we're at the point
- 23:14where we need to do that. Switching gears, I'll talk about
- 23:17Arsenal on the attacking side, things are very different minus
- 23:22Olivia Smith. I think this team really kind of
- 23:24maybe unlock something, you know, with that player at the 9
- 23:28and without Smith, even with Russo up there, just kind of
- 23:31took on a different feel. And there was for sure some
- 23:34frustration because I was like, well, it was a, you know, a
- 23:38little give and take because I was like, man, we can't really
- 23:41do anything offensively except have Caitlin Ford just running,
- 23:44you know, faster and harder than everybody.
- 23:45That's I guess that's what we have.
- 23:47And then in the second-half, we that that turned into, you know,
- 23:51a chance and a penalty kick for Arsenal.
- 23:53So we turned it into something, even though that was pretty much
- 23:56just the one thing that was that was going well for Arsenal
- 23:59today. I think so.
- 24:01I mean, you always have the the ability for Russo to kind of
- 24:05just hit that laser too or hit that that like kind of sneaky
- 24:10awkward shot when she's able to turn it on there, she puts the
- 24:13ball onto her onto her left and hits it near post.
- 24:17I mean, Russo, what I mean, she is at absolute worst one of the
- 24:286 best number nines in the world.
- 24:30I was. Going to say 6.
- 24:32Yeah, I was going to say 6. I'm saying she's in she's she's
- 24:35clearly top ten. It'd be insulting to be just to
- 24:38just not like insulting, but it would it would be too low to be
- 24:40like, guys, she's a top 10, number 9.
- 24:42I think she's like she's right there near the top half if not
- 24:47in the top half. Yeah, and I think, you know,
- 24:50she's also not a true 9. You know, she's like kind of
- 24:52nine and a half. She's she's a playmaker, you
- 24:54know? You know, she's not really kind
- 24:56of like that, that smashing aerial threat necessarily, you
- 25:00know, not she had good speed, but not blazing speed, you know,
- 25:04so but what she's good at, it's like, damn, she's good.
- 25:07You know, she could take the ball, you know, and like it's
- 25:10almost like she it's almost like a step back, you know, because
- 25:12she could kind of like in and then bring it back out, give us
- 25:15give space, and then she she knows where the ball's going to
- 25:19be and how to strike it. I thought the the the finish
- 25:23today was incredible. But when the an Alessia Russo
- 25:27goals like they have like nothing, there's not nobody that
- 25:29can really do what she does like that.
- 25:31And she's so consistent, so good, such a weapon.
- 25:35But I think, you know, sliding her back a little bit takes, you
- 25:38know, creates some some play making and it gives you a second
- 25:42look and and her work rate, we've talked about it.
- 25:44She just does not quit. So it's like she'll she'll get
- 25:48busy in the middle of the park. She'll get busy, you know, up,
- 25:50up, you know, when you're in the 18 and like everywhere in
- 25:52between if you give her that space.
- 25:55So I'm I'm really curious to see how Slager's figures it out.
- 26:00Yeah, and I think she has the ability to, I mean, look, she's
- 26:03already she's already lifted the trophy once.
- 26:05So I I continue to to be very, very optimistic about your
- 26:11Gunners chances in this tournament.
- 26:13I think they're peaking at the right time.
- 26:15You know, they have the, the weird situation with the, the,
- 26:21the postponed match, you know, over the weekend.
- 26:26So then they, they basically just played, you know, they,
- 26:29they played Louvin last week and then Louvin this week.
- 26:31Didn't have to worry about the WSL.
- 26:33Now it was probably weird to like get prepared for the
- 26:35Brighton match and then it gets postponed because of the
- 26:38waterlogged field down at Brighton.
- 26:41Probably, probably a lot of discussion we can set aside for
- 26:44another podcast on how that happens exactly.
- 26:47But now we now we set up for absolute cinema, a London Derby,
- 26:55the Reds versus the Blues, Football as many probably
- 26:59believe it should be. I I mean, this is this is
- 27:06definitely like pay-per-view paper.
- 27:08This is going to be the best, you know, semifinal match up.
- 27:10I think, you know, apologies to Barcelona and Madrid.
- 27:15I think these teams, the gap between them has closed quite a
- 27:19bit. You know, when I was talking to
- 27:20Leanne, I was making the case I'm like, oh, all right, Arsenal
- 27:22is not really scared of Chelsea anymore.
- 27:24You know, Mariona, you know, Roll, we, we come out there and
- 27:27Mariona has a, a case to be the best player on the, on, on the
- 27:29pitch, pretty much of an on any pitch on, on a lot of days,
- 27:33maybe not every day. And then you watch what Lauren
- 27:36James does last weekend, come on.
- 27:38And you're just like, OK, Lauren James has a ceiling that reaches
- 27:43pretty high. I mean, I think she's an
- 27:46absolutely incredible player. And we talked about it.
- 27:48The real challenge from Bob Pastor is going to be putting
- 27:53forth a game plan where A, they're not the the clear slam
- 27:56dunk favorites and B, what do you do with all those
- 28:00personalities? You know, we talked about like
- 28:02the, the behemoth problem at Chelsea.
- 28:03You know, I'm not going to name names, but they have some big
- 28:06players, some big name players that aren't playing necessarily
- 28:10at the level. It's not really easy to move
- 28:12players like that around. Just like they're 2021 year old,
- 28:1622 year old players. Like these are players with 10
- 28:18year big names, you know, big resumes.
- 28:22And that's that's not easy to do.
- 28:23But Bon Pester is going to have to figure out how to do it
- 28:26because the way they look now, they don't look like we can
- 28:30compete for the Champions League title kind of squad.
- 28:32Doesn't mean they can't get there because we know what they
- 28:35have, you know, in in their arsenal, no pun intended.
- 28:38But how do you see that matchup? I'm glad we're getting to this
- 28:44part because this is exciting now.
- 28:45It's obviously part of the build up.
- 28:47We want to see the actual match play out.
- 28:49So Chelsea in the lead up to this, this London Derby, you
- 28:55know UEFA Women's Champions League match on February 22nd
- 29:00they played Manchester United in the FA Cup round of 16.
- 29:03Then on March 18th they are home versus Brighton in the Women's
- 29:07Super League. I think I'll need some education
- 29:11from some of our pals. They have a match scheduled at
- 29:14London City Lionesses on March 22nd.
- 29:17I haven't seen a totally a fully released schedule for when
- 29:25they're going to play, but I think that that WSL match March
- 29:2722nd, that might be postponed for them to play the the very
- 29:33close fixture against Arsenal. So let's just say at bare
- 29:37minimum, they're they're playing United in the FA Cup around a 16
- 29:42and they are and they're playing Brighton.
- 29:45Our pal Jess in the chat says, yes, that's a Sunday afternoon
- 29:48match. So I think that means it would
- 29:50be postponed. Correct me if I'm wrong there,
- 29:52Jess, and thanks for hanging out with us.
- 29:55I I think if you are Chelsea, I think you hit the nail on the
- 29:59head, Dino. You can get ready.
- 30:02You can with your players with that Lauren James performance
- 30:06versus Liverpool. You can be totally you can get
- 30:10right. It would be crazy not to get
- 30:13right, but Arsenal can beat you and they can beat you in two
- 30:19matches in a row. I think so I think it's it's
- 30:23going to be a heavyweight bout. I, you know, I like to react.
- 30:26Sometimes I get a little caught up in the moment.
- 30:28That two nil win over Liverpool, I thought it was pretty gutsy.
- 30:32I think maybe some Chelsea supporters would think, ah, we
- 30:35should beat Liverpool by more than that.
- 30:36It should come easier than that. Liverpool had some chances but
- 30:39maybe you need some tough wins just to get the confidence back.
- 30:45I like it and I I'm jealous of the take that even if Chelsea
- 30:49plays well, Arsenal could beat them because that goes both
- 30:53ways. Arsenal could play well, Chelsea
- 30:55could beat them. That wasn't always true.
- 30:57That's that's the main difference.
- 30:58I think this is a, a new thing for this year that Chelsea could
- 31:01play well and still get beat, you know, by, by this Arsenal
- 31:04team. But you look at kind of like
- 31:07what happened in that Liverpool match, you know, XG 1.5 to .5
- 31:12shots 13 to 8, not crazy there 5:00 to 2:00 on target, you
- 31:17know, touches in the opposition half.
- 31:20Chelsea had 182, Liverpool had 152.
- 31:23So it's like this was a like a pretty even ish match kind of in
- 31:28the balance, even though, you know, Chelsea was was in control
- 31:31most of it. And Lauren James wasn't going to
- 31:33let anything happen other than Chelsea walking away with three
- 31:35points. But I think my my larger cases,
- 31:40there's going to be spots on the pitch, you know, where, where
- 31:44Arsenal has advantages. I think mostly around speed and
- 31:47athleticism. Chelsea is just going to have to
- 31:49figure out where their advantages are, you know, and,
- 31:52and how to kind of like keep those under wraps a little bit
- 31:55and have those kind of peeking once they get to that, that
- 31:58March. Date I think so.
- 32:01I mean, in that Liverpool match, it it was AI encountered a great
- 32:07juxtaposition where I went back and read and and watched some
- 32:12highlights, rewatched some highlights.
- 32:14But there was a point where Ellie Carpenter is streaking
- 32:17down the right hand side. And because I'm an obnoxious
- 32:21man, male sports fan, I'm just going wheels, wheels, wheels as
- 32:27as carpenters right down the field.
- 32:29And when I listen back to the announcer, says Ellie Carpenter
- 32:32showing off her pace. And I was like, yeah, that's a
- 32:34much more eloquent, nice way to describe what's happening there.
- 32:38But like, yeah, if you're thinking about like speed,
- 32:41physicality and some like pure skill in some spots, I think you
- 32:46probably give the nod to Chelsea.
- 32:48But in terms of, and this is crazy, talking about a team
- 32:52that's won the league so many times in a row, but for Arsenal
- 32:56playing with some championship medal right now, playing with
- 32:59toughness right now, you probably give the edge to them a
- 33:03little bit. I mean, I think mentality wise,
- 33:06they're much stronger, you know, and I think like those bump past
- 33:08our comments that we kind of, you know, raked over the goals
- 33:11like a bunch of times. Those are sticky, you know,
- 33:15those those those will stay in your head somewhere, even if not
- 33:18at the forefront. So I think that that didn't do
- 33:21do her team any favors, but it's still a lot of time to to sort
- 33:25things out. But I think based on where we're
- 33:28at now, considering the leaps that Smith has taken, you know,
- 33:34like, and I just don't know, like what like that player is
- 33:37such a matchup problem. And and again, it allows Russo
- 33:42to stay on the pitch and move a little back or just kind of like
- 33:45just move pieces around within the flow of the match.
- 33:48You know, and I think we saw we saw Chloe Kelly, Caitlin forward
- 33:50last week switching sides and just, you know, spitting, you
- 33:54know, Louvin into, you know, into into the into the mixer.
- 33:56But well, I mean, it's going to be extremely compelling either
- 34:01way. But I think I would give Arsenal
- 34:02the nod and I think right now, I mean, if they're still weeks
- 34:06away, but I I would pick them right now to advance over
- 34:09Chelsea. I like it.
- 34:11I expect nothing else from you and I would be actually, I'd be
- 34:14angry with you if you pick the other way.
- 34:16You can't. You can't be wearing an Arsenal
- 34:18hat right now and then come out here and pick Chelsea Football
- 34:21Club, our pal, the legend Carlo Wilson in the in the chat saying
- 34:27Chelsea need to get their stuff together.
- 34:29Absolutely. You say never lied, Carlo and
- 34:33just letting us know that the second leg is scheduled for
- 34:36April fools, which I think is right.
- 34:38I'm I'm looking at the at the Champions League website right
- 34:42now. So it looks like April first
- 34:44second leg probably at the at the bridge.
- 34:48Yes, just just says at the bridge on April Fool's Day.
- 34:52What could go wrong for us? I'm not sure.
- 34:58I'm not sure a whole lot, to be honest.
- 35:00You know, just a bump in the road.
- 35:03Apologies to and I know, I know Carl is a Chelsea guy, Abdul,
- 35:06another Chelsea guy. Apologies, Abdul.
- 35:09I respect your take, you know, and I, I respect you, you know,
- 35:13repping, repping, repping hard, doing it in a proud way.
- 35:16But yeah, I think y'all are in trouble.
- 35:19Couple couple matches, couple matches tomorrow, I want to
- 35:22quickly kind of fly over 'cause, you know, athletes, the Man
- 35:27United will see if they can make it close.
- 35:29But UVA and Wolfsburg, I think that was going to be an absolute
- 35:32banger. A funny note from this past
- 35:34weekend, UVA went nil, nil against Lazio and Wolfsburg went
- 35:40one one against Essen. I believe both of those teams
- 35:44were playing at home and and got to draw down to some lesser
- 35:49competition. So it's pretty clear that both
- 35:51these teams are are really, really loading up for what what
- 35:55happened last week in the Champions League and what's
- 35:56coming up tomorrow in the Champions League.
- 35:57So I cannot wait for that match up, but I want to kind of like
- 36:01get some predictions from you. What do you expecting tomorrow
- 36:04these two? Oh boy, wow, putting me on the
- 36:08spot. I was already prepared to talk
- 36:10about that hopefully before those two matches were played
- 36:15that I would hope that somebody on a television broadcast in
- 36:18Italy and somebody on a television broadcast in in
- 36:20Germany, both simultaneously said, look ahead game talk.
- 36:26And I just just giving us one of the great sports cliches of, you
- 36:30know, what is a trap game, classical looking.
- 36:36You never want to fall into the trap game.
- 36:39As far as tomorrow. Look, I think I've been the
- 36:42Athletico Madrid guy for several weeks.
- 36:46It's over and that's fine. It's it's a great result.
- 36:50United at home. I think they're going to put it
- 36:52away. I think that they have the
- 36:54opportunity to kind of go out there and show like, you know,
- 36:59this isn't a cute story. We're here to contend this year.
- 37:01And, you know, I don't think they have to be devastated if
- 37:04they don't make it out of the next round.
- 37:06But like, I think that they should say, OK, we're in a class
- 37:10above Atletico Madrid and I think United will do that.
- 37:13And then for Wolfsburg, Juventus, I've been picking them
- 37:16the whole time. I I think I picked them in the
- 37:18Can I pause? You real quick.
- 37:21Can I pause you real quick? Because, you know, as you were,
- 37:25as you were talking, I couldn't help but think about United,
- 37:30what they did versus London City Lions this weekend.
- 37:33They get the win, but you know, they were down one nil.
- 37:37They get out exceeding this when they get out shot out, shot on
- 37:40target, you know, and they're at home, you know, and I think we
- 37:45we talked about kind of like the wear and tear of the Champions.
- 37:49Again, it really does put a strain on you.
- 37:51Now they reloaded in a big way. A, that's good.
- 37:55A lot of talent in the door, but B chemistry, where is that at?
- 38:00Are you going to be able to put together in time?
- 38:03I know it's a big scoreline. I know it's three nil and I know
- 38:06I'd let these coming in on the road and I know they're under
- 38:09manned and and you know, shout out to MLS too, who was who was
- 38:12in the comments last week dropping real knowledge inside
- 38:15stuff you know about league F and and some of that let these
- 38:19background. So shout out to MLS, but I'm not
- 38:23going to I'm not going to say that this one's a total wrap,
- 38:27even though it sounds extremely silly considering it's three
- 38:30goals. I'm I'm just not going to do it.
- 38:32I mean, I want to see I want to see if United should do it
- 38:36absolutely, but I want to see it.
- 38:38You know, I think it's it's kind of like a checkpoint, right?
- 38:41Madrid was the better team versus pre FC and at every at
- 38:45every stop, they did what they needed to do.
- 38:47We need to stop here. We need to go here, we need to
- 38:49make a play here. And they did, you know, they,
- 38:51they, they saw it through to the end.
- 38:53Now United is halfway there. Can they see it through?
- 38:57They, they should be able to, but I'm not going to say that
- 38:59it's done. I don't think it's done.
- 39:01Am I crazy? I think so three nil is a three
- 39:05nil away and see now this is a great this is such a veteran
- 39:09move by you did. Now you're you, you're taking or
- 39:12you're at least chopping away at my mantle of the Atletico Madrid
- 39:16guy because why? Why should I believe in three
- 39:18nil now? You raised some compelling
- 39:20points, but man, I mean, Luani comes back, so that could be a
- 39:25thing as well. So that could be super helpful
- 39:26for for Atletico. Shout out to Jess Anna Sandberg
- 39:31for United out four to six weeks.
- 39:33Yeah. And not like sees see her take
- 39:35that injury. She's she's been playing pretty
- 39:37well. And I don't think Jansen, I
- 39:40don't think Dominique Jansen played versus Lindsay Lionesses.
- 39:43I'm not sure if she'll be back, but I don't know.
- 39:46I'm I'm going to be I'm going to be watching.
- 39:48I mean, I think before the Lindsay Lioness this match, I I
- 39:51I think I was more resigned to OK, this is just I was kind of
- 39:55like half watch. But now I think I think I'm
- 39:57going to be I think I'm going to be locked in.
- 40:00But I cut you off there. I think we're I think we're
- 40:02going to talk a little. Do you have anything more on
- 40:04United or you want to go UVA Wolfsburg?
- 40:06No, United is going to advance it and it's yeah, it's totally
- 40:09fine. And yeah, Dominique Hansen, she
- 40:12got in as the second-half sub around like the 60th in that
- 40:15match. But yeah, I, I think, you know,
- 40:19great effort for Matt Letty. They're going to build from
- 40:20this. They're they're going to be
- 40:21totally fine. But as our pal Carlos says in
- 40:24The Jets, take a fork in Matt Letty.
- 40:25They are done. I think that's probably about
- 40:29right As far as Juventus in Wolfsburg goes.
- 40:34You know, I picked Wolfsburg to advance.
- 40:36Did I feel awesome about the draw that they got at home?
- 40:39Not really. Anytime you go down to nil and
- 40:42scratch out and draw at home, like yes, there are positive
- 40:45feelings like we were able to come back.
- 40:47We were able to to to level the score, but also what's it going
- 40:53to look like when you go on the road?
- 40:54But I'm not backing away. I'm going to say Wolfsburg 2,
- 40:58Juventus 1. They find a way, they get tough.
- 41:01Let's get a Eustine Jelen goal in this match.
- 41:04You know, SK Braun alumna. Let's let's get after it
- 41:09tomorrow. Yeah, Jelen was having some
- 41:13impact late in late in the match last week, so I could definitely
- 41:16see it. We're going to see if that
- 41:18Wolfsburg attack can travel. I just can't help.
- 41:24I don't know, man. I can't help but feel.
- 41:26I still remember that Leo match where Wolfsburg just came out
- 41:31and just laid an absolute egg. And it's like, I hate to see
- 41:35that because in a match like this, and I'm not going to
- 41:40compare Leon Juventus, but even the Leon's waiting for whoever
- 41:43wins this, this, this tie. But when you put forth a real
- 41:47performance against the Leon in a match that you're probably not
- 41:50going to win, but it's, you know, it's, it's a 3 two or two
- 41:52one or, you know, 1. You know, like you really push
- 41:55them, you carry that that confidence into a match like
- 41:58this. But just the fact that they got
- 42:00completely waxed, you know, in that matchup, they're going to
- 42:03show up in this one. And you know, they they'll
- 42:06they'll be riding some momentum, you know, having come back from
- 42:09222 nil. But you were down to nil to
- 42:11begin with at home in Champions League knockout football.
- 42:14So it's like you really had to scratch just to get back to even
- 42:18I I just think this is going to be a classic textbook one nil.
- 42:24Juventus. Yeah, you know, a header late.
- 42:27You know, a frustrated Byron. I'm I'm not I'm sorry,
- 42:30frustrated Wolfsburg, you know, some Subs, you know, trying to
- 42:34trying to put some together a lot of like kind of scrambling
- 42:37late and ultimately not able to breakthrough it.
- 42:39And I like you May 1 nil and I like you may to advance.
- 42:44Understandable. You've been consistent with
- 42:45them. You were.
- 42:46You were higher on them at the beginning of the tournament than
- 42:49I was. You've been more correct about
- 42:51them throughout the tournament than I was.
- 42:53So, yeah, I'm not going to lie. Like you.
- 42:56Like you. You pointed out earlier, yes,
- 42:57we're rooting for our predictions.
- 43:00I mean, why else are you watching sports unless you're
- 43:02doing that? But yeah, you.
- 43:05You, I, I'm not going to act like I'm going into this with No
- 43:08Fear, but I'm going to trust the judgement that I, that I, that I
- 43:12put out there. And, you know, sometimes that's
- 43:14worked out for me. Sometimes not so much.
- 43:18Either way, it's going to be a great day of football, a lot of
- 43:21fun. We'll we'll know who our final
- 43:23eight are. We're going to have our
- 43:24matchups. We could do some previewing.
- 43:26We could crush some tape. Very excited to get past this
- 43:29stage into the quarterfinal stage.
- 43:31Is there anything else you want to hit before we get out of
- 43:34here? Obviously, senior gallops at the
- 43:37Lynx, the young Norwegian phenomenon.
- 43:40You see that goal she scored against Aston Villa over the
- 43:42weekend? I saw it a lot of times, buddy.
- 43:46Let's go. I love the and how about our guy
- 43:50Martin? Martin Hoe, 77 to 3, Tottenham
- 43:53or Aston Villa? I wasn't sure if that was a a
- 43:56Colts, Jaguars first quarter score liner.
- 43:58I don't know what I was looking at, but yeah, yeah, yeah.
- 44:03Football soccer game for sure, not a not an AFC North football
- 44:06game. Anywho, quick episode calendar.
- 44:09We'll be back tomorrow. Not sure if it's going to be
- 44:11live. It might be a little bit after
- 44:13the fact, but we will be back tomorrow to talk about
- 44:15tomorrow's matchups and just take a deep breath.
- 44:18Just just a big exhale after a great knockout stage.
- 44:23I think the group stage and the knockout stage I think a big
- 44:26success. There was a little bit, there
- 44:27wasn't quite hubbub about it, but there were some murmurs, you
- 44:30know, we weren't if hubbubs here, there were murmurs.
- 44:33We were at the murmur level, you know, with the changes.
- 44:35But I think the changes have been pretty.
- 44:36Good. I like them.
- 44:37I I think the league phase is pretty cool.
- 44:40I do miss kind of like the reverse fixture, like the pivot
- 44:43fixture where you have a home and home against some team in
- 44:45your group. I thought that was cool.
- 44:47But I overall I think the league phase structure is is pretty
- 44:51awesome. So I think I'm with you.
- 44:53I'm buying in UEFA. You've done it again.
- 44:58You haven't failed. You haven't failed terribly.
- 45:01So shout out to you. This has been another episode of
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- 45:31Pretty much any way you support the show.
- 45:33We really appreciate it. Even if you just tell the person
- 45:36sitting next to you on the bus and listen to this weird show,
- 45:38these two guys talking about wins football.
- 45:40You should check it out. That's supporting the show in
- 45:42its own way. We really appreciate that too.
- 45:45And a big thank you to my coach as well, Mr. Grant Angle for
- 45:48being somebody that always, always supports me.
- 45:51And for that I'm I'm forever appreciative.
- 45:53Thank you bro. Likewise, buddy.
- 45:56I mean, yeah, the support goes both ways.
- 45:58Ciao. For now, to the legend, Carlo.
- 46:01The classic sign off. The greatest, The greatest sign
- 46:04off in the history of women's football podcasting, if you ask
- 46:07me. Or at least it's in the running.
- 46:10But yeah, we appreciate all of you.
- 46:11Thanks for checking out the show.
- 46:12Like Dino said, the show tomorrow, it's probably not
- 46:15going to be live. It's going to be later.
- 46:16What time later? We don't know yet.
- 46:19But we will be talking about the matches, watching the matches
- 46:22closely. Like all of you.
- 46:23Thank you again for supporting us and we will see you all next
- 46:26time.