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55KRC Thursday Show - Dave Williams, Bill O'Reilly, Jeff Schare · Brian Thomas

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  Speaker 1: 5.05 at.
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  Speaker 2: 55KRC, the talk station. Friday evening. I had no idea
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  Speaker 2: what was going on. Neither do I. That's kind of
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  Speaker 2: typically the case. In a 5 o'clock hour for me,
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  Speaker 2: Brian Thomas, host of the 55KRC Morning Show. Happy to
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  Speaker 2: admit it. Well, I'm not proud of it, but at
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  Speaker 2: least I'm willing to admit it. Coming up on the
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  Speaker 2: 55K RC Morning Show, I see the absence of Congressman
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  Speaker 2: Warren Davidson on the rundown. Really, I'm troubled by that.
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  Speaker 2: Congressman Davidson's traveling this morning, but kind of continuing the trend.
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  Speaker 2: I was getting ready to send him a text about that,
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  Speaker 2: and I hope it's not sort of intentional or whatever.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know. I know the House passed a resolution
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  Speaker 2: the other day ordering President Trump to end the Iran war. And,
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  Speaker 2: of course, Congressman Davidson's name was right there, along with
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  Speaker 2: Congressman Massey and several other Republicans, about seven of them.
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  Speaker 2: And I understand that. Talked to Congressman Warren Davidson about
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  Speaker 2: that quite a few times. The law is what the
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  Speaker 2: law is. You can be angry all day long. You know,
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  Speaker 2: someone like Congressman Massey would hold his hand up and say, well,
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  Speaker 2: wait a minute. We've got the Constitution here, which says
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  Speaker 2: war can only be declared by Congress. You've got the
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  Speaker 2: War Powers Resolution 1973, which says, you know, after a
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  Speaker 2: certain period of time, you've got to have congressional approval
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  Speaker 2: or you've got to pull the plug. That's not the
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  Speaker 2: law that Massey wrote. It's not the law that Davidson wrote.
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  Speaker 2: It's the law that's on the books. Some people expressing
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  Speaker 2: absolute outrage. Who would have the audacity to raise this
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  Speaker 2: as an issue? It's the law. Anyhow, I'm hoping for
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  Speaker 2: the return of Congressman Davidson here on the 55 Kershaw
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  Speaker 2: Morning Show soon. Anyhow, Dave Williams from the Taxpayer Protection
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  Speaker 2: Alliance is going to be on the program coming up
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  Speaker 2: at 7.05. Man, we have a lot to talk about
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  Speaker 2: with Dave Williams. including headlines. Taxpayer Protection Alliance urges Congress
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  Speaker 2: to reject heavy-handed data center water mandates. That's one thing.
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  Speaker 2: Data centers can bolster revenue and help local residents. You see,
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  Speaker 2: there is a bright spot with the data centers. They
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  Speaker 2: do generate revenue. Lots of taxpayer dollars. Look at the figures.
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  Speaker 2: Medicare payment reforms are long overdue.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Proposed Medicare reforms are bad news for taxpayers and beneficiaries.
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  Speaker 2: And finally, to protect taxpayers, lawmakers must improve the TAS Act.
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  Speaker 2: We'll talk about that, of course, with Dave Williams. You
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  Speaker 2: think he'll bring up the streetcar, Joe? Joe Strecker, executive producer,
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  Speaker 2: Internet research guru, our own great guy. He makes sure
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  Speaker 2: this program actually works, and I appreciate him doing that.
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  Speaker 2: So Dave Williams at 705. Bill O'Reilly. Yes, I read
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  Speaker 2: another book by Bill O'Reilly. And you know, if you're
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  Speaker 2: going to interview Bill O'Reilly, you got to read the book.
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  Speaker 2: Joe Strecker warned me about that long time ago. You
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  Speaker 2: better damn well read the book because if he finds
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  Speaker 2: out you didn't, he'll end the interview. He will end
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  Speaker 2: the interview, right, Joe? He'll hang up on you. Thank you, Joe.
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  Speaker 2: Not even a segue into the interview ending. Just click.
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  Speaker 2: So I read it. It's confronting America. What has to
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  Speaker 2: change and It's interesting because Bill uses his personal career.
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  Speaker 2: It's really an autobiography about his career. And you know what?
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  Speaker 2: If you don't know a whole lot about Bill O'Reilly's career,
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  Speaker 2: considering where he came from and what he ended up achieving,
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  Speaker 2: holy crap, the guy's successful. There is no question about it.
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  Speaker 2: But he did it on his own. This is kind
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  Speaker 2: of the point. Personal drive and incentive. And many times
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  Speaker 2: it's one of the first things I'm going to ask
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  Speaker 2: him when we get to talk to Bill coming up
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  Speaker 2: at 8.05. He apparently was not a good kid before.
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  Speaker 2: Very difficult child for his parents to deal with. Not
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  Speaker 2: a perfect home environment for Bill O'Reilly. Maybe not a
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  Speaker 2: perfect home environment for his parents. But nonetheless, he went
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  Speaker 2: out and achieved greatness. But he uses his life as
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  Speaker 2: a springboard to talk about history and where we were
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  Speaker 2: and what he has observed about history with all of
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  Speaker 2: his other books, but also where we are now and
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  Speaker 2: the problems we face. like Internet, the doxing, the education system,
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  Speaker 2: for example, which I've been on a tear on lately. Anyway,
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  Speaker 2: Bill O'Reilly is confronting America what has to change, focusing
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  Speaker 2: on his five decades as a journalist and, well, conversations
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  Speaker 2: with a lot of people he's talked with over the years.
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  Speaker 2: And I get the impression Bill O'Reilly appreciates that aspect
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  Speaker 2: of his job like I do. The coolest thing about
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  Speaker 2: my job has been the people I've been able to
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  Speaker 2: speak with over the years. and like Bill O'Reilly. So
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  Speaker 2: he kind of has the same thing to say, but
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  Speaker 2: what his interactions and how he sees the world as
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  Speaker 2: it is, the wrong direction we've gone in, and also
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  Speaker 2: what we can do to stop it. So that is
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  Speaker 2: at 8.05. Jeff Sherwood, local author. Shots Fired on Redding Road.
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  Speaker 2: That's the name of the book. Tells the true story
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  Speaker 2: of the 1961 murder of Cincinnati Police Patrolman Donald Martin.
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  Speaker 2: and the 44-year search for the man who killed him.
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  Speaker 2: Cold Case book by Jeff. It's going to be on
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  Speaker 2: at 8.30 to talk about that. So, looks like tomorrow
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  Speaker 2: on the morning show, we'll have to have Tech Friday
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  Speaker 2: with Dave Hatter and Vivek Ramaswamy, who I'll be interviewing
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  Speaker 2: after the show for a recorded segment to play air tomorrow.
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  Speaker 2: Feel free to give me a call, 513-749-5500, 800-823-TALK, pound
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  Speaker 2: 550 on AT & T phones. And since I mentioned
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  Speaker 2: the vote the other day in connection with Mike, concern
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  Speaker 2: and wonder about congressman davidson safe travels today congressman uh
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  Speaker 2: house voted on tuesday late on tuesday and ordered trump
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  Speaker 2: to end hostilities with iran uh introduced by seth moulton
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  Speaker 2: described as a far left representative he's from massachusetts of
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  Speaker 2: course and co-sponsored by 14 democrats it passed 220 to
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  Speaker 2: 204 count them seven republicans joined the democrats along with
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  Speaker 2: uh the other opponent independent congressman kevin reilly He caucuses
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  Speaker 2: with the GOP. Anyhow, the votes in favor of ending
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  Speaker 2: the conflict, Tom Barrett, Michigan, Warren Davidson, as I mentioned,
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  Speaker 2: from Ohio, Brian Fitzpatrick of Pennsylvania, Thomas Massey of Kentucky,
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  Speaker 2: of course he is, and Nancy Mace of South Carolina,
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  Speaker 2: Marinette Miller-Meeks, hyphenated. She's from Iowa. And then finally, Zach
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  Speaker 2: Nunn of Iowa. Iowa folks voted this way because they
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  Speaker 2: are in a very contentious race. which is odd when
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  Speaker 2: you're talking about a state like Iowa. But those votes
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  Speaker 2: of Marinette Miller-Meeks of Iowa and Zach Nunn of Iowa
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  Speaker 2: described as voting against the war because the war is
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  Speaker 2: really critical in going into November because of, of course,
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  Speaker 2: the pain we're feeling at the pump. And as I
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  Speaker 2: mentioned in Napolitano the other day, I keep saying it.
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  Speaker 2: You're going to go ahead and turn your back on
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  Speaker 2: the Republicans because Donald Trump's waging war in the Middle East? Whatever. Whatever.
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  Speaker 2: Don't you appreciate that Democrats are the ones fueling the
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  Speaker 2: fire of climate change and want to make it impossible
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  Speaker 2: for you to afford a gallon of gas? I mean,
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  Speaker 2: and I mentioned this to Paul Towner. He just kind
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  Speaker 2: of got quiet and he went, you know, I don't
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  Speaker 2: know that the American public and voters can connect those.
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  Speaker 2: He didn't say logical, but it seems logical to me.
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  Speaker 2: Those points, you know, they're seeing the grocery bills up,
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  Speaker 2: diesel fuel through the roof. They're seeing the price of
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  Speaker 2: the pump that they personally pay. Of course, $ 5 gasoline, $ 4. 50,
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  Speaker 2: whatever it happens to be. And it sucks, and it does.
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  Speaker 2: No one can deny it. But that you would go
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  Speaker 2: ahead and vote for, I don't know, men playing against
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  Speaker 2: women's sports and all the other craziness that the Democrats
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  Speaker 2: are advocating and offering, that you would do that just
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  Speaker 2: because we're feeling the pain at the pump as a
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  Speaker 2: direct consequence of the war in the Middle East. And
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  Speaker 2: let's not overlook Russia, Ukraine. That's having an impact on
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  Speaker 2: the price of the pump. Ask the European Union about that.
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  Speaker 2: So far, disconnected. But let's go ahead and embrace woke left-wing,
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  Speaker 2: let's tear down America ideology. Am I missing the point?
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  Speaker 2: Is Napolitano right that, you know, we're just not smart
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  Speaker 2: enough as a population to connect the dots that voting
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  Speaker 2: for Democrats is really voting for more expensive, well, everything.
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  Speaker 5: Okay.
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  Speaker 2: Okay. Anyway, I mentioned the vote pass. So we got
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  Speaker 2: the seven Republicans voting with the Democrats and the war.
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  Speaker 2: If Republicans in Iowa, it's noted, feel they have to
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  Speaker 2: defy the president on these major policy questions. Am I
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  Speaker 2: referring to, uh, Miller Meeks and, and, and none of
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  Speaker 2: the two representatives have voted. Uh, then it possibly signals
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  Speaker 2: foreboding news for the GOP's midterm prospects. In fact, the
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  Speaker 2: Senate race in the Hawkeye State is currently a dead heat.
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  Speaker 2: So I guess maybe Napolitano's reading the cards right. That
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  Speaker 2: people are not paying attention to the broader realities of
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  Speaker 2: what voting for Democrats might mean. That they're not looking
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  Speaker 2: down the road at what the Democrat Socialists of America
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  Speaker 2: will do to our country and further embrace of global
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  Speaker 2: warming concern over the climate change policies, which Well, in
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  Speaker 2: the words of Barack Obama, necessarily increase the price of gasoline.
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  Speaker 2: How can you not take that into account? Anyway, insofar
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  Speaker 2: as this vote is concerned, it's probably not going to
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  Speaker 2: amount to anything. This is all about the War Powers Resolution.
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  Speaker 2: We are way into it, and you can say it's
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  Speaker 2: not a war. It is a war. I talked about
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  Speaker 2: that yesterday, to Orwellian reality in terms of the semantical
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  Speaker 2: meaning of words. I think dropping bombs on each other
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  Speaker 2: is pretty much war. So the clock is ticking for
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  Speaker 2: my account. All these folks said the clock is ticking.
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  Speaker 2: What's it mean? Now, the House voted to pass a
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  Speaker 2: similar resolution back in June. Four GOP members voted with
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  Speaker 2: the Democrats on that one. The Senate later blocked the resolution.
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  Speaker 2: So if the bill passed on Tuesday goes over to
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  Speaker 2: the Senate and is passed and lands on Trump's desk,
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  Speaker 2: it will be vetoed. Washrooms repeat that we have been
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  Speaker 2: doing for every war, I'll call it war, not a
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  Speaker 2: police action, since World War II. Go ahead, run through
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  Speaker 2: the list. Korea, Vietnam, and we could go on and
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  Speaker 2: on and on, but I'm out of time in this segment.
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  Speaker 2: Feel free to give me a call, 513-749-5500, 800-823-TALK, pound
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  Speaker 2: 550 on AT & T phones. Is it a good
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  Speaker 2: thing that there's bipartisan support to force automobile manufacturers to
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  Speaker 2: keep AM radios? We'll address that when we come back,
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  Speaker 2: or anything else you want to talk about, feel free
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  Speaker 2: to give me a call. Be back after these brief words.
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  Speaker 2: This is 55KRC. No Jay Ratliff this morning, but he
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  Speaker 2: is on vacation, and good for him. 513-749-5500, 800-823-TALK. Let
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  Speaker 2: us go to the phone, see what Corey's got this morning. Tim,
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  Speaker 2: hang on. You're next. Corey, welcome back.
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  Speaker 6: Hey, morning, Brian.
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  Speaker 7: And back to Indianapolis this morning, so listen, let me
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  Speaker 7: ask again.
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  Speaker 2: Got to listen to the app because apparently the automobile
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  Speaker 2: manufacturers want to get rid of AM radio, although the
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  Speaker 2: House to the Rescue mandating AM radio and cars by
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  Speaker 2: vote the other day on Tuesday. But anyway, go ahead, Corey.
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  Speaker 8: Well, I just want to call back about Trump lowering
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  Speaker 8: the EPA regulations on coal-fired power plants.
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  Speaker 5: Yep.
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  Speaker 7: My question is, why wasn't that done on day one?
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  Speaker 7: I mean, everybody knew that was an issue.
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  Speaker 9: Especially with all.
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  Speaker 8: The energy stuff, like this is going to pop up overnight, basically.
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  Speaker 8: Why did they do this sooner? Why did they wait
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  Speaker 8: until now?
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  Speaker 2: The answer from Brian Thomas is I have no idea, Corey.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, none. I have no idea. He could have
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  Speaker 2: done that on day one with the executive orders. How
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  Speaker 2: many did he sign on almost on day one and two?
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  Speaker 2: How many executive orders did Trump put his signature to?
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  Speaker 2: Like a couple of dozen, a hundred? It was a
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  Speaker 2: ton of them. Could have been that one, too. I
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  Speaker 2: just can't answer the question. But... Well, my point.
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  Speaker 8: Going to, I think Napolitano is correct. People, they're hurt now,
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  Speaker 8: and they're on blame going Trump.
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  Speaker 10: Oh, yeah.
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  Speaker 8: I think it was bad timing. I think, yes, it
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  Speaker 8: needed done. It should have waited until after the midterms.
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  Speaker 11: Yeah.
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  Speaker 8: I think it was all bad timing, and it's going
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  Speaker 8: to bite the Republicans big time in the butt. Thomas
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  Speaker 8: Massey was correct, like always. You should have never started it,
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  Speaker 8: at least now.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, but you know what? Hindsight's 20-20. It's like you
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  Speaker 2: asking the question, why didn't you get rid of the
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  Speaker 2: EPA mandates on power plants earlier? Well, okay, maybe it
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  Speaker 2: would have helped if you had done it earlier, but
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  Speaker 2: here we are. It's September of 2026. We're fast approaching
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  Speaker 2: an election, and so we can revisit things that have
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  Speaker 2: happened years ago and say, damn it, we should have
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  Speaker 2: done it a different way. But we're dealing with the reality.
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  Speaker 2: We're living real time. And, of course, Corey, you are
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  Speaker 2: absolutely right. We are going to be facing a monumental
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  Speaker 2: challenge in the November election simply because the price of
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  Speaker 2: gasoline and, of course, diesel and the intended inflation is
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  Speaker 2: through the roof. A problem that could have been avoided,
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  Speaker 2: hindsight being 20-20, absolutely, absolutely. And you're right. Congressman Massey
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  Speaker 2: was correct. Corey, hang in there, brother. I appreciate it.
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  Speaker 2: I wish I had an answer to your question. Tim,
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  Speaker 2: welcome to the morning show and a happy Friday Eve
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  Speaker 2: to you, sir.
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  Speaker 12: Well, good morning, Brian.
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  Speaker 6: Calling in on my flip phone as usual.
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  Speaker 12: I love my flip phone.
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  Speaker 9: It's just, they're great.
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  Speaker 2: Removable battery and all.
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  Speaker 12: Yes, I don't even have a widescreen TV. I ain't
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  Speaker 12: got a TV at my house or a computer.
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  Speaker 2: You're not quite full on ludite, but you're as close
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  Speaker 2: as you can get and still have a cell phone.
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  Speaker 2: That's cool. I like that, Tim. Go ahead.
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  Speaker 4: Okay, well, anyway. Well, we are not a democracy.
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  Speaker 12: We are a representative republic. We, the people, are supposed
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  Speaker 12: to vote in the right people to do the right
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  Speaker 12: things for us. Now, whether it be Republican or Democrat,
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  Speaker 12: they both do stupid things.
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  Speaker 13: We know that.
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  Speaker 6: Yes.
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  Speaker 12: Okay, they get in there for themselves. Now, the governors,
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  Speaker 12: Amy Atchison, just stay in your daddy and mommy's basement
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  Speaker 12: in your safe place, please. Would you stay in their basement? Now, Vivek, Yeah,
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  Speaker 12: he's got his money, fine, you know, but why do
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  Speaker 12: we need a billionaire from India running Ohio?
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  Speaker 2: Because he's running for office and you didn't put your
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  Speaker 2: name in the ring, Tim.
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  Speaker 12: Well, I know that.
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  Speaker 2: And he's competent. And yes, okay, ask yourself this, rather
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  Speaker 2: than put it that way, why would a billionaire want
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  Speaker 2: to be governor of the state of Ohio? He's already
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  Speaker 2: got more money than God. He could just walk into,
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  Speaker 2: he could just retire right now and enjoy life and
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  Speaker 2: contemplate his navel or engage in charity or whatever.
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  Speaker 12: That's the reason why you need an average Ohio white man,
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  Speaker 12: you know, from like Hamilton, who can run a state
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  Speaker 12: for like $ 75, 000 a year.
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  Speaker 6: You know, why do you need $ 195, 000 to run a state?
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  Speaker 12: And why do you need free housing as a governor?
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  Speaker 2: Why do you need a white guy? What the hell
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  Speaker 2: does that have to do with competence? See, that sounds, Tim,
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  Speaker 2: that sounds suspiciously racist, and this has been the question
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  Speaker 2: swirling around my mind. Why wouldn't you vote for Vivek Ramaswamy?
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  Speaker 12: A poor white guy. How about that? A poor white guy.
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  Speaker 6: Is that better?
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  Speaker 9: No.
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  Speaker 2: Or a poor black guy. How about leaving race out
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  Speaker 2: of the equation? How about simply demonstrable competence, success in business,
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  Speaker 2: regulatory understanding, industry understanding, the impact of government on business,
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  Speaker 2: and how to stand the hell out of the... the
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  Speaker 2: picture if you're government, and let business flourish. Ease the
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  Speaker 2: path to make Ohio a better place to live, a
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  Speaker 2: magnet to other business and industry to create jobs in Ohio.
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  Speaker 2: Who knows that more than someone who's navigated those challenges
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  Speaker 2: for the past couple of decades? Doesn't matter what his
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  Speaker 2: skin color is, man. It matters whether he's competent by
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  Speaker 2: comparison to who he's running against. And I think there's
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  Speaker 2: an overwhelming view by most sane people that He is
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  Speaker 2: demonstrably more competent and has a demonstrably better resume than
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  Speaker 2: Amy locked down, hiding in the basement, acting. Color of skin, Tim,
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  Speaker 2: come on, man. That's what bothers me. That's my concern
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  Speaker 2: going into November in the state of Ohio, that people
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  Speaker 2: have the attitude, well, he's Hindu and he's brown.
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  Speaker 7: So what?
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  Speaker 2: We don't live in a theocracy, man. He can't make
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  Speaker 2: us worship any given religion, and he hasn't even brought
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  Speaker 2: religion to the equation. What he's brought in is like,
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  Speaker 2: damn it, this state can be better. We need to
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  Speaker 2: make it more inviting for business and industry, and therefore
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  Speaker 2: the people of the state of Ohio to enjoy the
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  Speaker 2: fruits of that investment. Let's Amy Acton offer it. 526-55-KRC-D
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  Speaker 2: or what's specifically in them. I've been critical of those
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  Speaker 2: mandates in other areas, and I don't think I can
• 17:56
  Speaker 2: change gears simply because I am the host of an
• 17:59
  Speaker 2: AM radio program. If you've got your iHeartMedia, you don't
• 18:01
  Speaker 2: have to worry about that. But if you really want
• 18:04
  Speaker 2: an AM radio in your car, demand it. There are
• 18:06
  Speaker 2: manufacturers that still have them and aren't planning on pulling
• 18:09
  Speaker 2: the plug on them, and the only reason they're pulling
• 18:11
  Speaker 2: the plug on AM radios in cars apparently is because
• 18:13
  Speaker 2: they claim it causes interference with the electric vehicles, which
• 18:17
  Speaker 2: I would recommend not buying. I like the internal combustion engine. Anyway,
• 18:23
  Speaker 2: to the phones we go. Tom's on the line. Shocking.
• 18:25
  Speaker 2: Literally no one listens to the morning show. Welcome back, Tom.
• 18:30
  Speaker 4: Good morning.
• 18:30
  Speaker 9: I guess it's more of a shock if I don't
• 18:32
  Speaker 9: call in.
• 18:32
  Speaker 2: That's right. Yes, I've become accustomed to it, Tom. You know,
• 18:35
  Speaker 2: you're a crutch for Brian Thomas, host of the morning show,
• 18:37
  Speaker 2: because I get to talk to you, and I don't
• 18:39
  Speaker 2: have to come up with stories and things on my own.
• 18:43
  Speaker 9: I'm glad I could help.
• 18:44
  Speaker 2: I appreciate it.
• 18:45
  Speaker 9: And sorry to tell you in advance, you probably won't
• 18:48
  Speaker 9: hear from me tomorrow. It's my long weekend. So I
• 18:50
  Speaker 9: will be staring at the back of my eyelids this
• 18:52
  Speaker 9: time tomorrow morning.
• 18:53
  Speaker 2: Good for you.
• 18:54
  Speaker 9: With any luck. With any luck.
• 18:56
  Speaker 2: Good for you. Although, you know, your internal alarm goes
• 18:59
  Speaker 2: off and you're like, geez, shouldn't I be on the
• 19:01
  Speaker 2: phone with Thomas right now? So he can feel free
• 19:03
  Speaker 2: to change gears.
• 19:04
  Speaker 9: Yeah, I'll wake up at some point early, but I'm
• 19:06
  Speaker 9: going to go right back to bed. Good. A couple
• 19:11
  Speaker 9: of things. First of all, last phone call was very disappointing.
• 19:16
  Speaker 9: That should never be an issue.
• 19:18
  Speaker 2: I know.
• 19:20
  Speaker 9: And when people say stuff like that, it continues to fuel.
• 19:24
  Speaker 9: To me, it's more of an imaginary fire, but then
• 19:28
  Speaker 9: you hear stuff like that, and maybe it's not as
• 19:30
  Speaker 9: imaginary as we'd like.
• 19:31
  Speaker 13: It to be.
• 19:33
  Speaker 9: Race should never be an issue. It shouldn't be a
• 19:35
  Speaker 9: question at all. Someone's competence matters. The man grew up
• 19:39
  Speaker 9: in Cincinnati, Ohio, by the way, in case you didn't know.
• 19:42
  Speaker 9: It's not like somebody just came over in the last
• 19:47
  Speaker 9: year or two from another country and said, hey, I'm
• 19:49
  Speaker 9: going to show you this. how to do it the
• 19:50
  Speaker 9: dude grew up here yeah um so really i.
• 19:54
  Speaker 2: Think it was wasn't he valedictorian at uh xavier high
• 19:57
  Speaker 2: school something.
• 19:58
  Speaker 9: Like yeah xavier high school yeah something like that yeah
• 20:01
  Speaker 9: um yeah i want someone who knows what the hell
• 20:04
  Speaker 9: they're doing and has some common sense and uh Yeah,
• 20:09
  Speaker 9: I'll leave it at that. Just disappointing.
• 20:11
  Speaker 2: Well, I will observe and not to hang him out
• 20:14
  Speaker 2: to dry because he's the only one who would say
• 20:16
  Speaker 2: something like that. No, I've heard comments and I've read
• 20:19
  Speaker 2: comments like that from other people, which has been my
• 20:21
  Speaker 2: concern all along about this. What is your problem? Why
• 20:26
  Speaker 2: don't you think he is a good candidate if you
• 20:28
  Speaker 2: outright reject Amy Acton, which I've heard too. I'll never
• 20:31
  Speaker 2: vote for Amy Acton, but what's this Vive Grimeswamy guy? Well,
• 20:34
  Speaker 2: you tell me what's wrong with him. He's a billionaire.
• 20:39
  Speaker 2: So is Trump. You know, you voted for Trump. He's
• 20:41
  Speaker 2: a multi-billionaire, right? Or at least he's got gobs of money.
• 20:44
  Speaker 2: That wasn't an impediment. Oh, it's because B-Vac is a
• 20:48
  Speaker 2: man of color? Seriously?
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 20:51
  Speaker 9: Yeah, that's stupid. And it'd be like us saying we're
• 20:55
  Speaker 9: not voting for Amy Ashton because she's a woman. It
• 20:58
  Speaker 9: has nothing to do with why we won't vote for her.
• 21:01
  Speaker 9: If a guy did the same exact thing that she did,
• 21:04
  Speaker 9: back when COVID happened and behaves the same way she's
• 21:07
  Speaker 9: doing now, it'd be the same story regardless of gender
• 21:11
  Speaker 9: or race or whatever. So it's what the person's doing.
• 21:14
  Speaker 9: It's how they're behaving. It's what they're saying. It's how
• 21:16
  Speaker 9: they vote, whatever. That's the stuff we've got to pay
• 21:19
  Speaker 9: attention to. So as far as you mentioned something earlier
• 21:23
  Speaker 9: about these data centers and all this work, it is
• 21:26
  Speaker 9: a lot of money coming into these areas. I mean,
• 21:29
  Speaker 9: this area, this is the closest town to where I'm at.
• 21:33
  Speaker 13: It's called Lebanon.
• 21:34
  Speaker 9: Lebanon, Indiana. And this place is just exploding with construction
• 21:38
  Speaker 9: and all these businesses. I mean, there's hotels being built,
• 21:42
  Speaker 9: restaurants being built. I mean, this place is building up
• 21:45
  Speaker 9: big time. A lot of money. All these hotels right
• 21:47
  Speaker 9: up here are able to charge extra money because they
• 21:50
  Speaker 9: know that the guys staying here are probably getting paid
• 21:53
  Speaker 9: by their company, getting a per diem or whatever. So,
• 21:56
  Speaker 9: you know, there's people making some big money off of
• 21:58
  Speaker 9: this stuff. Not just the business that's building the building,
• 22:01
  Speaker 9: but everything around it. So, you know, in that regard, economically,
• 22:06
  Speaker 9: it's a really good thing.
• 22:07
  Speaker 2: For the community and the state.
• 22:10
  Speaker 9: So, yeah, but it is important to keep an eye
• 22:12
  Speaker 9: on it and make sure, like anything else, get humans
• 22:15
  Speaker 9: involved and we screw things up, we take advantage of it,
• 22:17
  Speaker 9: we abuse things, and we've got to not do that.
• 22:22
  Speaker 9: And then as far as gas prices, I'll repeat what
• 22:25
  Speaker 9: I said the other day. If you think gas prices
• 22:27
  Speaker 9: are going to get better because the Democrats are in charge, well,
• 22:29
  Speaker 9: obviously you haven't been paying attention the last few years.
• 22:32
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 22:33
  Speaker 9: You got your head stuck in the sand and and
• 22:34
  Speaker 9: you're just too busy, worried about your feelings. You know, yes,
• 22:39
  Speaker 9: gas prices suck. I saw yesterday as I think the
• 22:43
  Speaker 9: price of gas was at least 50 cents higher at
• 22:45
  Speaker 9: the end of the day than it was at the
• 22:47
  Speaker 9: beginning of the day.
• 22:48
  Speaker 2: That's crazy.
• 22:48
  Speaker 9: So they jumped yesterday. I think everybody noticed that. Yes,
• 22:51
  Speaker 9: it sucks. I wish it I wish it wasn't happening,
• 22:54
  Speaker 9: but I don't. There is no way in hell you
• 22:57
  Speaker 9: can convince me that it'll be any better if Democrats win, George.
• 23:00
  Speaker 9: No way. And so people don't vote Democrat. Talk to
• 23:04
  Speaker 9: you later.
• 23:05
  Speaker 2: Thanks, Tom. I'll miss you. 55KRC Detox Station. 540 at
• 23:11
  Speaker 2: 55KRC Detox Station. Very happy Friday Eve to you. Before
• 23:14
  Speaker 2: I get to the phones, I mentioned earlier Congressman Warren
• 23:17
  Speaker 2: Davidson originally scheduled to be on the program this morning,
• 23:19
  Speaker 2: and he had to cancel because of travel. I just
• 23:21
  Speaker 2: reached out to him by text this morning and said, hey,
• 23:23
  Speaker 2: are we running into something beyond scheduling here? It's been
• 23:26
  Speaker 2: a long time since we talked. Absolutely not. He said
• 23:29
  Speaker 2: he loves coming on the morning show. I think he's
• 23:31
  Speaker 2: an asset for all of us. And so he said, hey,
• 23:35
  Speaker 2: I can come on the show tomorrow if you've got
• 23:37
  Speaker 2: some free time. So Joe Strecker's trying to hammer that
• 23:39
  Speaker 2: out with his people. So fingers crossed. And yeah, Johnson
• 23:43
  Speaker 2: sent everybody home. So the house is no longer working.
• 23:46
  Speaker 2: They got an early recess, I guess. Over to the
• 23:48
  Speaker 2: phones to see what James has got. Mississippi James, welcome
• 23:51
  Speaker 2: back and a happy Friday Eve.
• 23:53
  Speaker 6: Yes, sir, Dr.
• 23:54
  Speaker 4: Bryan.
• 23:54
  Speaker 6: I come in peace, love everybody, and there's nothing you
• 23:57
  Speaker 6: can do about it.
• 23:59
  Speaker 2: Fair enough.
• 24:00
  Speaker 6: Now, I'd like to follow up on your call two
• 24:02
  Speaker 6: calls ago before Tom.
• 24:04
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 24:06
  Speaker 6: Now, that fellow don't realize he's a product of colonization, whitewashing,
• 24:14
  Speaker 6: white supremacy, white racism. And he probably been that way
• 24:19
  Speaker 6: his whole life. And he said that so easily that...
• 24:23
  Speaker 6: But then he thought he was changing something when he said, okay, okay,
• 24:26
  Speaker 6: a poor white man needs to be the governor of Ohio.
• 24:30
  Speaker 2: He missed the point, didn't he?
• 24:32
  Speaker 6: He missed the whole point.
• 24:33
  Speaker 9: I know.
• 24:34
  Speaker 6: Because he'd been in an echo chamber his whole life.
• 24:38
  Speaker 13: Maybe.
• 24:39
  Speaker 2: I can't listen. Listen, James, I understand the points you're
• 24:43
  Speaker 2: making and where they're coming from, but I don't know him,
• 24:45
  Speaker 2: and I don't know what his life experience is. I
• 24:48
  Speaker 2: don't know what he grew up with. I don't know
• 24:50
  Speaker 2: what messaging he has listened to his entire life. We
• 24:52
  Speaker 2: are completely devoid of all information relating to him and
• 24:56
  Speaker 2: anything about his life. I don't know what his socioeconomic
• 24:59
  Speaker 2: status is. I know nothing. All I know is that
• 25:01
  Speaker 2: he hung his hack on something that shouldn't matter to anyone.
• 25:04
  Speaker 2: Isn't it content of character, not color of skin, James?
• 25:08
  Speaker 2: Isn't that what we've learned? And isn't that such a
• 25:10
  Speaker 2: wonderful message?
• 25:13
  Speaker 6: Now, you're right on that. We don't know that man personally.
• 25:16
  Speaker 14: Right.
• 25:16
  Speaker 6: But you look at the conversation... And that usually, if
• 25:21
  Speaker 6: you do your research, it follows that channel.
• 25:23
  Speaker 2: Sure, it can.
• 25:24
  Speaker 9: It may be different.
• 25:25
  Speaker 11: It can.
• 25:26
  Speaker 6: It may be different, but you follow that channel, just
• 25:29
  Speaker 6: what he said. And I would love to talk to
• 25:32
  Speaker 6: him one-on-one, you know, to try to see. But I
• 25:35
  Speaker 6: know he's in an echo chamber.
• 25:38
  Speaker 2: But you see, you would take him out of that, James.
• 25:40
  Speaker 2: You would discuss in a, you know, calm tone. a fashion,
• 25:44
  Speaker 2: you wouldn't be name-calling. I know from your perspective and
• 25:47
  Speaker 2: the comments you've made on the 55KRC Morning Show over
• 25:49
  Speaker 2: the times you've been calling, man, you're a very thoughtful person.
• 25:53
  Speaker 2: You're not someone who's going to engage in vitriol and name-calling.
• 25:56
  Speaker 2: So it would be a very productive conversation. You, James,
• 25:59
  Speaker 2: might learn something about his perception, and he, of course,
• 26:03
  Speaker 2: would value in learning from your live perspective. See, that's
• 26:07
  Speaker 2: what we need, more debate and conversation today. Logic and reason,
• 26:11
  Speaker 2: exchange of ideas, not anger, screaming, yelling, and vitriol, which
• 26:15
  Speaker 2: is one of the things that I think Bill O'Reilly
• 26:17
  Speaker 2: is going to talk about because he brought it up
• 26:18
  Speaker 2: in his book. We have devolved as a society. But, yeah,
• 26:25
  Speaker 2: those conversations are important, James. I will agree. You can
• 26:28
  Speaker 2: maybe sit down over to lunch someday because you come
• 26:30
  Speaker 2: to listener lunch every once in a while. Tim, show
• 26:33
  Speaker 2: up at listener lunch. Have a conversation with James. Bobby,
• 26:36
  Speaker 2: welcome back to the morning show. Happy Friday Eve.
• 26:39
  Speaker 13: Good morning, my friend, Faith Flag Family, and it's Handicapped Thursday.
• 26:45
  Speaker 2: Go ahead. I'm waiting for it. This is the moment
• 26:48
  Speaker 2: in time when Bobby calls in and tells us the
• 26:51
  Speaker 2: number of violent crimes in the downtown Cincinnati area. I
• 26:56
  Speaker 2: guess I've got to get the parameters again. Is it
• 26:57
  Speaker 2: just within the confines of the city limits, or is
• 27:00
  Speaker 2: it just in the tri-state generally? I think it's the former,
• 27:03
  Speaker 2: isn't it?
• 27:04
  Speaker 13: City Corporation.
• 27:05
  Speaker 2: Okay, there you go. All right, how many people will
• 27:08
  Speaker 2: be the victim of violent crime, gunshot wounds, or death
• 27:12
  Speaker 2: over the three-day weekend beginning tomorrow through Sunday?
• 27:16
  Speaker 13: Two and a half.
• 27:17
  Speaker 2: Two and a half. Well, we can only hope it's
• 27:20
  Speaker 2: that low. And you're going to go over, right?
• 27:24
  Speaker 13: Well, we hope it. We hope that we don't have
• 27:27
  Speaker 13: any type of disturbance. But you know what I'm saying?
• 27:30
  Speaker 13: We need to be realistic. That way when we come
• 27:32
  Speaker 13: in Monday, we can go ahead and say the over.
• 27:35
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I know. And when we find out that it's
• 27:37
  Speaker 2: more like seven, I know. Value of human life cannot
• 27:42
  Speaker 2: be understated, and yet we treat it so casually in
• 27:45
  Speaker 2: our world. All right. Thanks, Bobby. Appreciate it, man.
• 27:48
  Speaker 13: Thank you, my friend.
• 27:49
  Speaker 2: Have a great day. 545. 55 Karat City Talk Station.
• 27:52
  Speaker 2: We'll get into Stack is Stupid or more phone calls.
• 27:56
  Speaker 2: It is 549, 55 Karat City Talk Station. Good morning, Submariner.
• 28:03
  Speaker 2: Courage Mike, you sent me an email or a voice message. Sorry,
• 28:07
  Speaker 2: a Facebook message about a swearing-in ceremony. Anyway, just reminded
• 28:10
  Speaker 2: me that tonight's the night between 5 and 7 p.m.
• 28:13
  Speaker 2: Get the Voice of America Park and check out the...
• 28:15
  Speaker 2: USS Cincinnati Memorial and get a tour and enjoy how
• 28:19
  Speaker 2: awesome that thing is. Just drove by it the other
• 28:21
  Speaker 2: day when I was at Foreign Exchange. Just a beautiful exhibit.
• 28:23
  Speaker 2: So that's tonight, 5 to 7, something to do. And
• 28:26
  Speaker 2: good morning, Mike. Let us see here. Let's start in Florida.
• 28:33
  Speaker 2: Florida woman's been charged with a felony after investigators say
• 28:37
  Speaker 2: home surveillance footage allegedly showed her engaging in sexual activity
• 28:42
  Speaker 2: with the dog. Notably, the family dog, not just a
• 28:45
  Speaker 2: random one. Malia Elizabeth Nermador, our pervert of the morning
• 28:50
  Speaker 2: here in the stack of stupid, 38 years old. If
• 28:54
  Speaker 2: that's her mugshot, she seems very, very happy about having
• 28:57
  Speaker 2: been arrested. Anyway, that's the photo I'm staring at. Charged
• 29:00
  Speaker 2: with sexual activity involving animals. That's it. Second-degree felony, according
• 29:03
  Speaker 2: to the Charlotte County Sheriff's Office. Investigation began after detectives
• 29:07
  Speaker 2: learned of a social media post or posts that alleged
• 29:11
  Speaker 2: the woman had been engaging in sexual activity with her
• 29:14
  Speaker 2: pet dog. Investigators contacted the person who made the allegations,
• 29:19
  Speaker 2: obtained sworn statements and digital evidence from a home surveillance system.
• 29:23
  Speaker 2: During the interview, Nermador confirmed she was, in fact, the
• 29:28
  Speaker 2: person in the footage, and that the dog was, in fact,
• 29:31
  Speaker 2: the family pet. The investigator said the footage showed her
• 29:35
  Speaker 2: partially nude. And, well, let's just say the dog's positioning
• 29:41
  Speaker 2: made it undisputable that she was engaging in sexual activity
• 29:45
  Speaker 2: with the dog. But she denied anything sexual occurred. She
• 29:50
  Speaker 2: couldn't provide a consistent explanation, though, for what investigators said
• 29:53
  Speaker 2: was clearly shown on the video.
• 29:58
  Speaker 1: I know, man.
• 29:59
  Speaker 2: She later requested an attorney and ended the interview. Moment
• 30:04
  Speaker 2: in time when she realized that she had screwed herself.
• 30:08
  Speaker 2: Charlotte County Sheriff Bill Prummel condemned the alleged conduct in
• 30:13
  Speaker 2: his released statement. There are only a few times in
• 30:15
  Speaker 2: my career that I have been at a loss for words,
• 30:17
  Speaker 2: he said. This is one of those times. And yet
• 30:19
  Speaker 2: he went on with a long statement. Obviously, he is
• 30:22
  Speaker 2: not at a loss for words. Lord Almighty.
• 30:26
  Speaker 15: Michigan.
• 30:27
  Speaker 2: Michigan. Detroit man's been charged with second-degree murder after police
• 30:30
  Speaker 2: said an argument over how to cook chicken at a
• 30:33
  Speaker 2: barbecue led to a fatal stabbing. Of course it did.
• 30:38
  Speaker 2: Police said Cleo Lawson, who's 62, showed up at the
• 30:40
  Speaker 2: barbecue September 7th where his sister and her live-in boyfriend,
• 30:45
  Speaker 2: Kenneth Irwin Thomas, were present. Lawson and Thomas began arguing
• 30:51
  Speaker 2: about how to cook a chicken. Dispute escalated. Lawson accused
• 30:57
  Speaker 2: of stabbing Thomas. Officers showed up 20 minutes after 5 p.m.,
• 31:00
  Speaker 2: found Thomas suffering from life-threatening injuries. He died while officers
• 31:03
  Speaker 2: attempted to provide aid. Bond was denied for Mr.
• 31:07
  Speaker 4: Lawson.
• 31:07
  Speaker 2: Obviously, he's not in Hamilton County, Ohio, where, again, he
• 31:10
  Speaker 2: would have been given a cookie and a juice. He
• 31:13
  Speaker 2: remains in the Oakland County Jail, awaiting his next court date.
• 31:17
  Speaker 2: How to cook a chicken. Hank, welcome to The Morning Show,
• 31:20
  Speaker 2: and a happy Friday Eve to you, sir.
• 31:22
  Speaker 9: Thanks, Brian.
• 31:24
  Speaker 7: So you had a couple of calls that were pretty interesting,
• 31:28
  Speaker 7: but I wanted to hit on the, the Arabian war
• 31:31
  Speaker 7: real quick.
• 31:32
  Speaker 2: Sure.
• 31:32
  Speaker 16: Sure.
• 31:33
  Speaker 7: Simple question for anybody that's wanting to end the war.
• 31:37
  Speaker 7: Do you really want to nuke to go off in
• 31:39
  Speaker 7: the continental United States? Cause that's, what's going to happen
• 31:42
  Speaker 7: if we leave those guys.
• 31:43
  Speaker 2: Alone someday, maybe.
• 31:45
  Speaker 9: Okay.
• 31:46
  Speaker 2: Well, wait a second. On that point, Hank, the North
• 31:48
  Speaker 2: Koreans have a bomb. Now we were always worried about
• 31:51
  Speaker 2: North Korean and the, And the evil hermit king dictator
• 31:55
  Speaker 2: they got there, but apparently no longer an existential threat.
• 31:59
  Speaker 2: That ship has sailed. So I don't know.
• 32:03
  Speaker 13: Well, the big.
• 32:03
  Speaker 7: Difference between North Korea and all the other nuclear countries
• 32:08
  Speaker 7: versus Iran is. is that they're both homicidal and suicidal.
• 32:12
  Speaker 2: Well, that's a valid point.
• 32:16
  Speaker 7: Mutual assured destruction doesn't work with them. They actually want
• 32:21
  Speaker 7: to get martyred.
• 32:22
  Speaker 2: Yeah, there you go. If you factor the radical religious
• 32:26
  Speaker 2: ideology that they share, if they die waging jihad, then
• 32:30
  Speaker 2: they're guaranteed access to heaven and, I guess, a bunch
• 32:32
  Speaker 2: of virgins, which is a weird, I think it's a
• 32:35
  Speaker 2: strange religious concept, but I didn't create it. Somebody else
• 32:38
  Speaker 2: made it up.
• 32:39
  Speaker 7: To be honest with you, I think a lot of
• 32:41
  Speaker 7: that had more to do with Muhammad being able to
• 32:44
  Speaker 7: talk people into giving him power than any kind of
• 32:47
  Speaker 7: inspiration from a higher power.
• 32:49
  Speaker 2: It may be. I don't know.
• 32:52
  Speaker 7: Anyway, I'd like to move on to a good old
• 32:56
  Speaker 7: stack of stupid should have had flip phone Tim in there.
• 33:02
  Speaker 2: Go ahead, man. You only got a short period of time.
• 33:04
  Speaker 2: Get your thought concluded. I'm anxious to hear it.
• 33:08
  Speaker 7: Yeah, you know, many years ago, he's talking about getting
• 33:11
  Speaker 7: a white guy in there, and then he said a
• 33:13
  Speaker 7: poor white guy. Many years ago, the Republican.
• 33:17
  Speaker 13: Party, oh, shit.
• 33:19
  Speaker 2: See, now I got to hit the dump button because
• 33:22
  Speaker 2: you dropped the S-bomb. How many times? I love hearing
• 33:27
  Speaker 2: from listeners. I like to engage in the exchange of ideas,
• 33:31
  Speaker 2: even if some of them come out of left field,
• 33:33
  Speaker 2: but you can't drop. And S-bomb or use any of
• 33:36
  Speaker 2: the curse words that are banned by the FCC here
• 33:38
  Speaker 2: on the morning show. On all radio. That's what streaming's
• 33:44
  Speaker 2: all about. You can drop F-bomb left and right if
• 33:47
  Speaker 2: you're digital for whatever reason, but you can't do it
• 33:49
  Speaker 2: on terrestrial radio. So anyhow, sorry we didn't get the
• 33:52
  Speaker 2: rest of his thoughts, but that's what happens when you
• 33:54
  Speaker 2: curse on the morning show. 513-749-5500, 800-823-TALK. If you're inclined
• 33:59
  Speaker 2: to not curse, feel free to give me a call.
• 34:00
  Speaker 2: Plenty to talk about before we get to Dave Williams
• 34:03
  Speaker 2: from the Taxpayer Protection Alliance coming up at 7.05. I'll
• 34:05
  Speaker 2: be right back after the news.
• 34:07
  Speaker 14: At the top of the hour, get the top story.
• 34:14
  Speaker 2: 606 here at 55KRC, the talk station. Brian Thomas, host
• 34:17
  Speaker 2: of the 55KRC Morning Show. I'm glad to be wishing
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  Speaker 2: everyone a very happy Friday, even looking forward to the
• 34:21
  Speaker 2: next hour. Dave Williams from the Taxpayer Protection Alliance. You
• 34:24
  Speaker 2: can find him online at ProtectingTaxpayers.org. We've got a huge
• 34:27
  Speaker 2: list of items to go over with Dave. I just
• 34:30
  Speaker 2: wonder if Dave ever is going to get exhausted. Been
• 34:33
  Speaker 2: fighting against this ridiculous overspending in government and all of
• 34:37
  Speaker 2: the ridiculous waste. And still going strong after all these years.
• 34:43
  Speaker 2: Some of the landscapes changed. It may have gotten worse. Anyway,
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  Speaker 2: Dave will be on in an hour. Followed by 805
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  Speaker 2: with Bill O'Reilly and his new book, Confronting America. And
• 34:51
  Speaker 2: then Jeff Scherer joins the program. I think I'm pronouncing
• 34:53
  Speaker 2: it right. He's a local author with a book called
• 34:55
  Speaker 2: Shots Fired on Redding Road, which is about a cold
• 34:59
  Speaker 2: case here in the greater Cincinnati area. A true story
• 35:02
  Speaker 2: of the 1961 murder of Cincinnati patrolman Donald Martin and
• 35:07
  Speaker 2: an amazing 44-year search for the man who killed him.
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  Speaker 2: I just was sort of pausing and thinking about cold
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  Speaker 2: cases generally and with so much violence and so many murders.
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  Speaker 2: Can you imagine, like, for example, in Chicago, like 40
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  Speaker 2: people get shot every weekend, about a dozen people get
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  Speaker 2: killed every weekend. Every single one of those cases requires
• 35:29
  Speaker 2: an investigation, fact gathering, evidence searching, you know, forensics and
• 35:32
  Speaker 2: all of that, maybe even DNA testing and everything. They've
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  Speaker 2: got hundreds and hundreds of cold cases, murders that were
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  Speaker 2: never solved.
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  Speaker 13: Sad.
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  Speaker 2: Just reflects how difficult it is to be a police officer.
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  Speaker 2: Most notably, if you've got a woke, corrupt justice department
• 35:52
  Speaker 2: or rather a prosecutor and doesn't want to prosecute crimes and,
• 35:56
  Speaker 2: of course, a judicial branch that just wants to slap
• 35:59
  Speaker 2: every criminal on the hand and send them on their way. Yes,
• 36:02
  Speaker 2: we have options here in the state of Ohio and
• 36:04
  Speaker 2: especially Hamilton County as we approach November. There are better
• 36:07
  Speaker 2: candidates out there that you can choose from. And I'm
• 36:10
  Speaker 2: just immediately thinking of Magistrate Lucan versus the current Bloom
• 36:14
  Speaker 2: judge that we have running juvenile court. 513-749-5500, 800-823-TALK, pound
• 36:18
  Speaker 2: 550 on AT & T phones. That's your lineup this morning. And, yes,
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  Speaker 2: I mentioned the context of Warren Davidson. He will be
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  Speaker 2: on tomorrow. He has traveled today. He was planning on
• 36:30
  Speaker 2: coming on, and I got a little worried because we
• 36:31
  Speaker 2: haven't talked to him here on the morning show in
• 36:33
  Speaker 2: quite a while. No, no, no, it's got nothing to
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  Speaker 2: do except for poor timing and scheduling. By the way, hey,
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  Speaker 2: I'm free tomorrow. Can I join you? He said yes.
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  Speaker 2: So Congressman Davidson will join us tomorrow at 7 o'clock,
• 36:44
  Speaker 2: and we can maybe talk about the vote. with he,
• 36:46
  Speaker 2: along with six other Republicans, saying, hey, we've got to
• 36:49
  Speaker 2: end this war. They passed a resolution ordering Trump to
• 36:51
  Speaker 2: end the Iran war. I understand why. The War Powers
• 36:55
  Speaker 2: Resolution of 1973, even though I personally believe it is unconstitutional,
• 36:59
  Speaker 2: it's never been tested in court, it is an unconstitutional
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  Speaker 2: delegation of power, but there it is nonetheless, a law
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  Speaker 2: in the books. And I guess, are you going to
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  Speaker 2: take the side that we aren't in a war? Anyhow.
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  Speaker 2: What of it? Will it change things? Will you voting
• 37:19
  Speaker 2: for Democrats in November, socialists and communists, all of them,
• 37:23
  Speaker 2: because you're pissed off about gasoline? An interesting analysis by
• 37:29
  Speaker 2: Harrison Berger, and I thought it was important to bring
• 37:31
  Speaker 2: this up. Saw this posted on Responsible Statecraft, reposted over
• 37:36
  Speaker 2: at Zero Hedge, which quite often reposts articles. As the
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  Speaker 2: United States has struggled to secure its four primary objectives
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  Speaker 2: in the Iran war, regime change. Dismantling long-range ballistic missiles,
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  Speaker 2: eliminating nuclear enrichment, and halting Tehran's support of regional proxies.
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  Speaker 2: The reasons we went in.
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  Speaker 6: U.S.
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  Speaker 2: Officials have rolled out a series of tried and failed
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  Speaker 2: theories for how to achieve the goals. Over the past
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  Speaker 2: four weeks, we have watched the government attempt to inflict
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  Speaker 2: economic victory against Iran through Operation Economic Outcast, tightening sanctions
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  Speaker 2: on the regime, strangling Iran's economy, and they are being strangled,
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  Speaker 2: but it's not working. We seem to be in a stalemate,
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  Speaker 2: he observes. The strategy flags we've seen the Trump administration
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  Speaker 2: return to older strategies of kinetic strikes against Iran. Those strikes, too,
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  Speaker 2: have failed to achieve the desired objectives. They do something,
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  Speaker 2: we blow something up. And that's the current posture, at
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  Speaker 2: least right now. Facing the prospect of self-inflicted defeat, he says,
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  Speaker 2: you know, the U.S. has now proposed two new paths forward.
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  Speaker 2: Number one, Wall Street Journal reported this last week, the
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  Speaker 2: option to extend and formalize the current series of on-and-off strikes.
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  Speaker 6: U.S.
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  Speaker 2: Officials apparently call this mowing the lawn, a strategy of
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  Speaker 2: using periodic bouts of disproportionate force to support that option.
• 38:51
  Speaker 2: The Pentagon has extended our troop deployments in the Middle
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  Speaker 2: East through next year. I think of the families of
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  Speaker 2: the American military people who are in the Middle East
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  Speaker 2: and the worry that they carry with them, and of
• 39:03
  Speaker 2: course the concern that those folks on a long-term deployment have. Anyway,
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  Speaker 2: they signed up for it. You never know what you're
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  Speaker 2: going to get when you sign up, do you? God
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  Speaker 2: bless each and every one of them. The second option,
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  Speaker 2: reportedly considered by the White House for the U.S. to
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  Speaker 2: declare victory and walk away. I was kind of puzzled
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  Speaker 2: by this one. According to the Wall Street Journal reporting
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  Speaker 2: last week, Trump favors this idea. Among the supporters of
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  Speaker 2: this option, just declare victory and walk away, Joe Kent,
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  Speaker 2: former director of National Counterterrorism Center, he's the guy that
• 39:30
  Speaker 2: quit and protested over the Iran war. Now, he's argued
• 39:34
  Speaker 2: that the United States should, in his words, reset the
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  Speaker 2: terms of the deal with Iran by removing our troops
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  Speaker 2: and ships from the region. Argument? that the U.S. should
• 39:44
  Speaker 2: just walk away and declare victory is apparently growing increasingly
• 39:48
  Speaker 2: popular in establishment circles, and a couple of articles citing
• 39:51
  Speaker 2: that are cited by the author of this op-ed piece.
• 39:54
  Speaker 2: So I know people have said that. I scratch my
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  Speaker 2: head over that. How can you declare victory? Work on
• 40:04
  Speaker 2: that one for me, would you? Call me up and
• 40:05
  Speaker 2: let me know. Anyway, given the historic limitations, sanctions to
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  Speaker 2: achieve political outcomes, coupled with Iran's current demands... That strategy, too,
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  Speaker 2: appears unlikely to reopen the Strait of Hormuz. This is
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  Speaker 2: the point. Is anything going to change with regard to
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  Speaker 2: the disruption in fuel, notably diesel? Unlikely to reopen the
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  Speaker 2: Strait of Hormuz to avert the economic consequences of Iran's
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  Speaker 2: leverage over the waterway we'll have on the global economy.
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  Speaker 2: If you just walk away, you got the Houthis on
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  Speaker 2: one side, you got the Iranians on the other, and
• 40:34
  Speaker 2: both of them are controlling bottlenecks that, well, are critical
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  Speaker 2: to the globe's supply of oil. Are they going to
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  Speaker 2: give that up? Do you think they're going to give
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  Speaker 2: up the control that they have gained as a consequence
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  Speaker 2: of this war? Do you think they're going to give
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  Speaker 2: up the opportunity, the ability to exact tolls in and
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  Speaker 2: out of the Red Sea and the Strait of Hormuz?
• 40:53
  Speaker 2: I can't see it happening, but what do I know?
• 40:58
  Speaker 2: Political scientists, he observes, have long doubted whether U.S. economic
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  Speaker 2: pressure and sanctions can shape political outcomes. This is something
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  Speaker 2: that Daniel Davis on the Daniel Davis Deep Dive has
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  Speaker 2: noted a bunch of times. You can't force the Iranians
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  Speaker 2: to capitulate. Their lives suck all the time. They're used
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  Speaker 2: to this. Misery, and then put in the layer of
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  Speaker 2: religious ideology over it. You know, if you're a devout
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  Speaker 2: person of faith, you can suffer through a whole lot
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  Speaker 2: and nonetheless retain your faith. I don't know why the
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  Speaker 2: book of Job just jumped into my head. Hmm, something
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  Speaker 2: to ponder. Researcher David Siegel says, quick to acknowledge that, well,
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  Speaker 2: these sanctions don't work. Janet Yellen conceded the same point
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  Speaker 2: the other day, noting that while sanctions against Iran had
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  Speaker 2: caused real economic crisis, undeniably, they produced political outcomes much
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  Speaker 2: less than we ideally would like. That's a delicate way
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  Speaker 2: of saying what Daniel Davis has been saying more directly. Anyway,
• 41:58
  Speaker 2: Segal had this to say, target states have strong incentives
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  Speaker 2: not to give in, and sometimes even benefit from heightened
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  Speaker 2: levels of political support at home because they can now
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  Speaker 2: credibly blame their economic woes on a foreign imperial power, i.e.
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  Speaker 6: Us.
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  Speaker 2: Evil United States. The great Satan has done this to us.
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  Speaker 2: We should expect this kind of thing from the evil
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  Speaker 2: United States. They're all, I guess, concluding in their minds,
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  Speaker 2: and I know you can relate to that. Low likelihood
• 42:30
  Speaker 2: of economic pressure opening up the Strait of Hormuz is
• 42:32
  Speaker 2: depressed even further, he observes, by the fact that one
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  Speaker 2: of Iran's preconditions for opening the Strait of Hormuz is
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  Speaker 2: the removal of sanctions, which would require a vote from Congress,
• 42:44
  Speaker 2: where the proposal would face an uphill battle. Right. Are
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  Speaker 2: we going to lift our economic sanctions, which is really
• 42:50
  Speaker 2: the only arsenal we have left? You know, and keep
• 42:52
  Speaker 2: in the back of your mind while I'm going through
• 42:54
  Speaker 2: his observations of the current situation, which I really can't
• 42:57
  Speaker 2: argue with, widely reported that we are running low on munitions,
• 43:05
  Speaker 2: defensive and otherwise. And that's a broader problem than what
• 43:10
  Speaker 2: we can do in the Middle East. We always have
• 43:12
  Speaker 2: these threats from around the globe at all given times,
• 43:15
  Speaker 2: and if we can't even defend ourselves from an attack
• 43:18
  Speaker 2: because we've used up all our missiles, we've got a
• 43:20
  Speaker 2: real problem here. Anyway, just a side note that I
• 43:22
  Speaker 2: had to stick in there. Perhaps the main reason for
• 43:26
  Speaker 2: walking away and declaring victory would fail to reopen the strait,
• 43:28
  Speaker 2: he observes again, and mitigate the impending economic disasters because
• 43:32
  Speaker 2: Iran has tied freedom of navigation in the waterway to
• 43:36
  Speaker 2: the United States reigning in Israel. Forget about that, right?
• 43:43
  Speaker 2: Memorandum of understanding? Back in June, we had that thing.
• 43:49
  Speaker 2: Iran was only requiring the United States to force an
• 43:52
  Speaker 2: Israel withdrawal from Lebanon. Now, at the time that MOA
• 43:57
  Speaker 2: came out, I even said that, what control do we
• 43:59
  Speaker 2: have over Israel, really? I mean, I know we diplomatically
• 44:01
  Speaker 2: have a lot of pressure we can exact on Israel
• 44:03
  Speaker 2: and threaten to not sell them weapons or whatever. There
• 44:05
  Speaker 2: is leverage that can be brought on. But, you know,
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  Speaker 2: they weren't signatories to the memorandum of understanding. They might
• 44:09
  Speaker 2: have a different viewpoint about that. But the point is,
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  Speaker 2: we haven't done anything about that. We haven't forced Israel.
• 44:15
  Speaker 2: We haven't out loud said Israel stop bombing Lebanon or
• 44:18
  Speaker 2: anything related to that. Now, subsequent provocations by the U.S.
• 44:23
  Speaker 2: and Israel have led Iran to expand its ceasefire demands
• 44:27
  Speaker 2: to other campaigns in Iraq, in Yemen, and Palestine. Their
• 44:31
  Speaker 2: list of demands grows ever longer while this stalemate goes on.
• 44:38
  Speaker 2: And he writes, securing the deal to reopen the Strait
• 44:40
  Speaker 2: and end the war is further complicated by the growing
• 44:43
  Speaker 2: view around the world that Trump isn't capable of making
• 44:47
  Speaker 2: a deal. Now, he cites some survey from Politico, which
• 44:50
  Speaker 2: is left-wing, but he cites the diplomats from 15 countries
• 44:53
  Speaker 2: in this survey showing that foreign officials think Trump's deal-making
• 44:57
  Speaker 2: process is reactive with no clear direction, which I think
• 45:02
  Speaker 2: you conclude it kind of is. You start out saying
• 45:05
  Speaker 2: we're going to do regime change, we're going to end
• 45:07
  Speaker 2: the nuclear weapons program, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, and
• 45:10
  Speaker 2: it's not delivered on. And we find out that, oh, look,
• 45:14
  Speaker 2: the Iranians are capable of closing the Strait of Hormuz. Oh, look,
• 45:17
  Speaker 2: the Iranians, who have direct control over the Houthi rebels,
• 45:21
  Speaker 2: can close down the Red Sea bottleneck. It just keeps
• 45:25
  Speaker 2: getting worse and worse. Which is how, I guess we
• 45:29
  Speaker 2: even get to the position where one of the most
• 45:31
  Speaker 2: favored ways of looking at that is simply to declare victory.
• 45:36
  Speaker 2: Doesn't that sound like a chapter out of Orwell's 1984?
• 45:38
  Speaker 2: War is peace. Peace is war.
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  Speaker 13: We win.
• 45:43
  Speaker 2: You win what? Well, from our viewpoint, just leaving is
• 45:48
  Speaker 2: a victory. I don't know that that's going to change
• 45:50
  Speaker 2: the dynamic, which is really the fundamental point of why
• 45:52
  Speaker 2: I went through this. You're not going to get lower
• 45:54
  Speaker 2: gasoline prices if we just pull the plug on this.
• 46:01
  Speaker 2: It would save us billions of dollars pulling the plug, though,
• 46:03
  Speaker 2: at least in terms of military hardware and loss of
• 46:06
  Speaker 2: human life, which is going on as well. Steve's on
• 46:10
  Speaker 2: the phone. Steve, I'm sorry. I just looked up and
• 46:11
  Speaker 2: saw you there while I was engaging in this ramble.
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  Speaker 2: It's 618. I promise to take your call if you
• 46:15
  Speaker 2: don't mind holding for a moment. I don't mention Gregory Lester.
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  Speaker 14: 623-55-KER-CITY-TALK-STATION.
• 46:22
  Speaker 2: Going to go straight to the phones. Steve was kind
• 46:24
  Speaker 2: enough to hold over the break. Steve, welcome to the program.
• 46:26
  Speaker 2: Happy Friday evening to you, sir.
• 46:28
  Speaker 4: Good morning, Brian.
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  Speaker 17: Before I try to make my point, you mentioned the
• 46:32
  Speaker 17: memorandum of understanding, and Israel didn't sign off on it,
• 46:37
  Speaker 17: but the Iranians had a stipulation in there that Israel
• 46:41
  Speaker 17: could not have any military.
• 46:43
  Speaker 18: Action in Lebanon.
• 46:44
  Speaker 4: What the U.S.
• 46:45
  Speaker 18: Should do the next time a memorandum of understanding is
• 46:48
  Speaker 18: being written, the first thing they should ask for is
• 46:53
  Speaker 18: that Canada approves a trade deal with the United States.
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  Speaker 18: And it makes as much– I mean, it really– it's
• 46:59
  Speaker 18: the absurdity. And they should put.
• 47:01
  Speaker 13: It in there.
• 47:02
  Speaker 18: And they should say, what does this have to do
• 47:04
  Speaker 18: with it? And it has nothing to do with it.
• 47:06
  Speaker 18: And it's just– it's like they have no control over that.
• 47:09
  Speaker 18: The reason I'm calling Trump.
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  Speaker 13: Thank you.
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  Speaker 18: First of all, I think he stepped in it in February.
• 47:15
  Speaker 18: And the reason I think he stepped in it– let
• 47:19
  Speaker 18: me do the positives first.
• 47:21
  Speaker 9: Go ahead.
• 47:22
  Speaker 18: There are potentially two things– that will cement his legacy
• 47:28
  Speaker 18: in history.
• 47:30
  Speaker 4: One is the.
• 47:31
  Speaker 18: Venezuelan oil deal, but that's going to be years down
• 47:34
  Speaker 18: the road. The other one is the Abraham Accords that
• 47:37
  Speaker 18: started in the first term. If those two things work out,
• 47:42
  Speaker 18: you've got Middle East success, you've got Western Hemisphere oil,
• 47:50
  Speaker 18: just wonderful. Now, the Strait of Hormuz... Do the Iranians
• 47:54
  Speaker 18: control it? Well, let me ask you a question.
• 47:57
  Speaker 7: If I'm.
• 48:00
  Speaker 18: At an overpass, a bridge over I-75, and I take
• 48:06
  Speaker 18: pot shots at certain vehicles, and you never know when
• 48:09
  Speaker 18: I'm going to shoot, whatever. 75's open. Anybody can go
• 48:15
  Speaker 18: through it. I don't control it. I haven't shut it down.
• 48:19
  Speaker 18: But nobody's doing anything about the guy taking pot shots.
• 48:23
  Speaker 18: So they don't control it, but they take pot shots
• 48:26
  Speaker 18: at things.
• 48:28
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 48:28
  Speaker 2: That's the danger. That's the problem. I think Daniel Davis
• 48:31
  Speaker 2: can point to this. I mean, we have literally blown up,
• 48:35
  Speaker 2: eradicated Iran's formal military. All the airplanes and all the ships,
• 48:38
  Speaker 2: they don't exist anymore. And we've destroyed a whole lot
• 48:41
  Speaker 2: of rocket launcher missile sites in the country as well,
• 48:45
  Speaker 2: but not all of them. And because we're now dealing
• 48:47
  Speaker 2: with the realities of drone warfare, you can apparently make
• 48:50
  Speaker 2: these pretty damn quickly. They are very inexpensive to make.
• 48:53
  Speaker 2: You can make them in somebody's basement, which means you
• 48:55
  Speaker 2: can't control the production of them. And it only takes
• 48:57
  Speaker 2: one to hit a target or even one to get
• 48:59
  Speaker 2: close to a target to freak people out enough that
• 49:03
  Speaker 2: they have effectively controlled the Strait of Hormuz, even though
• 49:07
  Speaker 2: it's a cosmic crapshoot as to whether or not your
• 49:10
  Speaker 2: boat's going to get hit. It's like if I find
• 49:12
  Speaker 2: out there's a gunman on a bridge on I-75 and
• 49:14
  Speaker 2: I have an option to go around it, I'm going
• 49:17
  Speaker 2: to take the option to go around it. Why would
• 49:19
  Speaker 2: I walk into that?
• 49:20
  Speaker 6: Risk?
• 49:20
  Speaker 2: I've got a multi-billion dollar car or however much one
• 49:23
  Speaker 2: of those giant boats cost. Would I risk that? Insurers
• 49:26
  Speaker 2: say no, or they charge you a basically dollar for
• 49:29
  Speaker 2: dollar insurance coverage premium to cover the boat if it
• 49:31
  Speaker 2: gets hit.
• 49:32
  Speaker 18: And very, very quickly, here's where Trump stepped in it
• 49:35
  Speaker 18: in February. The art of the deal was works wonderfully,
• 49:40
  Speaker 18: has worked for him his entire adult life dealing with
• 49:45
  Speaker 18: Western thinking. He's dealing with people that don't think the
• 49:49
  Speaker 18: way people in the West do. That's the mistake there.
• 49:52
  Speaker 4: Have a good day, Brian.
• 49:53
  Speaker 2: Excellent point. That last one, Steve, no doubt about it.
• 49:56
  Speaker 2: Going back to the religious fundamentalism that you're dealing with here,
• 49:59
  Speaker 2: you can't argue thought, logic, and reason with a religious fundamentalist.
• 50:03
  Speaker 2: Go ahead, try. If you get them to concede a point,
• 50:08
  Speaker 2: In their mind, they're conceding a point that Satan would
• 50:11
  Speaker 2: make and having to give up some element of the
• 50:13
  Speaker 2: religious fundamentalism. I don't see that happening. 627-55-KRC-D Talk Station.
• 50:18
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• 50:34
  Speaker 2: posted about this one, our Citizen Watchdog friend. You should
• 50:36
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• 50:41
  Speaker 2: talking about Anna Albee, since a council member, Anna Albee,
• 50:44
  Speaker 2: trying to assassinate his character because he is opposed to
• 50:47
  Speaker 2: what he refers to as an ill-conceived, low-income, multifamily housing
• 50:52
  Speaker 2: development called Westline Flats, which is right here on the
• 50:55
  Speaker 2: top of my stack of local stories here. 167-unit so-called
• 51:00
  Speaker 2: affordable apartment development. Since a city council house and growth
• 51:04
  Speaker 2: committee voted 6-0 September 15th to advance zoning change that
• 51:08
  Speaker 2: would allow this development at 2323 Ferguson Road in Westwood.
• 51:14
  Speaker 2: Full city council schedule considered the zoning change the 16th
• 51:18
  Speaker 2: of September, which as I look at the clock, that
• 51:20
  Speaker 2: was yesterday. Rezone the property. The proposal would rezone the
• 51:24
  Speaker 2: property from the city's CGA-MH or commercial general auto-oriented middle
• 51:30
  Speaker 2: housing project. District 2 Plan Development District, known as the
• 51:34
  Speaker 2: Westline Flats. If that makes sense to you, good. You
• 51:37
  Speaker 2: can explain it to me because I can't even understand
• 51:38
  Speaker 2: what I just read. Bottom line is 167 apartment unit,
• 51:42
  Speaker 2: 46 one-bedroom units, 95 two-bedroom units, and 26 three-bedroom units
• 51:47
  Speaker 2: in an area that is really already having serious problems
• 51:51
  Speaker 2: with pedestrian traffic and crime. That's one of the concerns
• 51:56
  Speaker 2: about it. Also calls for 183 parking spaces, bike parking, landscaping,
• 52:00
  Speaker 2: and other amenities. Planning Department says the units are intended
• 52:04
  Speaker 2: to be affordable to households with an average income of 60%
• 52:08
  Speaker 2: of the area's median income. The project is expected to
• 52:11
  Speaker 2: serve households earning between 50% and 70% of the area's
• 52:14
  Speaker 2: median income. Affordable housing units. Are these being built under
• 52:19
  Speaker 2: Section 8? Are the rents going to be supplemented by
• 52:24
  Speaker 2: the taxpayer? Have they thought out the congestion problems that
• 52:29
  Speaker 2: will be brought about with 183 additional parking spaces? I
• 52:36
  Speaker 2: guess we'll cross all these bridges when we ultimately get
• 52:38
  Speaker 2: to them. Cincinnati City Council unanimously approved a measure requiring
• 52:43
  Speaker 2: a 30-day review of the city's response to July's severe
• 52:47
  Speaker 2: east side flooding. The review will examine what worked, what
• 52:52
  Speaker 2: didn't work, what changes could improve Cincinnati's preparations for future
• 52:55
  Speaker 2: flash floods. According to the reporting here, and I'll give
• 52:59
  Speaker 2: the Cincinnati Exchange Nina Oliverio credit at least, July flooding
• 53:04
  Speaker 2: damaged at least 118 homes and businesses that met preliminary
• 53:08
  Speaker 2: federal damage assessment criteria and left one person dead and
• 53:12
  Speaker 2: three injured. Council unanimously approved the measure yesterday, directed the
• 53:16
  Speaker 2: city's administration to provide a comprehensive 2026 after-action analysis to
• 53:23
  Speaker 2: the city council within 30 days. Credit on that. given
• 53:27
  Speaker 2: to reporting from WLWT. We need a review. Of course,
• 53:34
  Speaker 2: this comes after a couple of months of heavy rain
• 53:36
  Speaker 2: and widespread flooding across all areas of Cincinnati. So serious flooding.
• 53:40
  Speaker 2: At least they're going to look at it and try
• 53:42
  Speaker 2: to figure out what works and what doesn't. Meantime, hey,
• 53:45
  Speaker 2: have they gotten the trash picked up, Joe? Yeah, we
• 53:49
  Speaker 2: had some workers call in sick, and that's going to
• 53:52
  Speaker 2: leave you with two weeks and no trash pickup. I can't.
• 53:56
  Speaker 2: Somebody got to give me a figure on how many
• 53:57
  Speaker 2: people called in sick that were responsible for picking up
• 54:00
  Speaker 2: trash in the Cincinnati area.
• 54:02
  Speaker 4: 635.
• 54:02
  Speaker 2: 55KRC, the talk station. It is 640 here at 55KRC,
• 54:10
  Speaker 2: the talk station. Looking forward to the top of the
• 54:13
  Speaker 2: hour because after the news, we get the benefit of
• 54:16
  Speaker 2: Dave Williams from the Taxpayer Protection Alliance. We have a
• 54:18
  Speaker 2: litany of things going on with Dave. Bill O'Reilly at
• 54:20
  Speaker 2: 805 with his new book, Confronting America. That should be
• 54:23
  Speaker 2: an interesting conversation because it was indeed a very interesting book.
• 54:26
  Speaker 2: His books always are. Very easy reads. I think it
• 54:28
  Speaker 2: only took me a few hours to read the whole thing.
• 54:30
  Speaker 2: Broken up over a couple days. Anyway, real quick here.
• 54:33
  Speaker 2: I think this is a great thing. You know, UDF
• 54:36
  Speaker 2: is offering a discount on gas today. It's going to
• 54:38
  Speaker 2: be a busy day around the UDF station. Some are
• 54:40
  Speaker 2: expecting traffic jams. Anyway, between 3 and 7, you probably
• 54:43
  Speaker 2: got the word. But if you didn't hear, I'm giving.
• 54:45
  Speaker 6: It to you.
• 54:45
  Speaker 2: Save $ 0. 40. per gallon at all 170-plus UDF locations all
• 54:51
  Speaker 2: across greater Cincinnati, Dayton, and Columbus. Just drive up, and
• 54:55
  Speaker 2: you get the discount. You don't have to be a
• 54:56
  Speaker 2: member of the loyalty program. They call it U-Drive Plus,
• 54:59
  Speaker 2: but apparently if you sign up for that, I'm thinking
• 55:03
  Speaker 2: of Dave Hatter and the app warnings that go along
• 55:06
  Speaker 2: with it. Yes, it is a vehicle to hoover up
• 55:09
  Speaker 2: all kinds of information about your buying habits. You do
• 55:11
  Speaker 2: it at Kroger, I guess. You get a discount for that, too.
• 55:14
  Speaker 2: So there is incentive to get it. But if you
• 55:18
  Speaker 2: are a member, apparently it helps out. Six cents off
• 55:22
  Speaker 2: per gallon every day. And then along with these flash
• 55:26
  Speaker 2: sales that they are having in the near future, you
• 55:29
  Speaker 2: get even more. So you always get that six cents.
• 55:32
  Speaker 2: And you can end up with a total savings of
• 55:33
  Speaker 2: 46 cents per gallon. So loyalty members, if you want
• 55:36
  Speaker 2: to sign up for that, that's what they're hoping you
• 55:37
  Speaker 2: do while you're there today, getting the 40 cent discount.
• 55:41
  Speaker 2: You can lock in the low price discount. anytime between
• 55:45
  Speaker 2: 3 and 7 when they're offering it, if you're a member.
• 55:48
  Speaker 2: And that'll allow you to get the discount even if
• 55:51
  Speaker 2: you show up after 7 p.m. because it locks in
• 55:53
  Speaker 2: the low rate until 12, just before midnight. So go
• 55:58
  Speaker 2: ahead and sign up if you want. Anyway, throughout the month,
• 56:01
  Speaker 2: apparently these UDrive members will get $ 0. 15 off per gallon.
• 56:05
  Speaker 2: First fill, see, they're keeping track of you. Second fill,
• 56:07
  Speaker 2: you get $ 0. 20 off a gallon. And yes, in the
• 56:09
  Speaker 2: third fill, you get $ 0. 25 off a gallon. So there
• 56:13
  Speaker 2: are benefits from being a member. You decide whether you
• 56:16
  Speaker 2: want to be. Now here, from my libertarian perspective, I
• 56:18
  Speaker 2: don't know that I necessarily agree with this, although I
• 56:20
  Speaker 2: do appreciate the fact that I'm reading the word bipartisan,
• 56:24
  Speaker 2: although I'll be quick to point out that, yes, if
• 56:26
  Speaker 2: it's bipartisan, that means Congress is actually doing something, and
• 56:30
  Speaker 2: I'm always in the default mode of I'd rather have
• 56:32
  Speaker 2: nothing done than them meeting that legislation. But here you go.
• 56:35
  Speaker 2: Automobile manufacturers, you're going to have to put an AM
• 56:38
  Speaker 2: radio in the car if the House bill that just
• 56:39
  Speaker 2: passed on a bipartisan level goes through Senate and is
• 56:43
  Speaker 2: signed into law by Trump, mandating AM radio. Now, a
• 56:47
  Speaker 2: lot of folks are in favor of this, including my
• 56:50
  Speaker 2: employer and former federal emergency officials. Tesla, Volvo, and BMW
• 56:56
  Speaker 2: stopped providing AM radio previously, and this is what started
• 56:59
  Speaker 2: the push for this AM radio for every vehicle act.
• 57:05
  Speaker 2: Bill's going over the Senate. Related legislation has 60 co-sponsors
• 57:09
  Speaker 2: and bipartisan support there, so you can see the writing
• 57:12
  Speaker 2: on the wall on this. Supporters say AM radio is
• 57:15
  Speaker 2: vital to the government's emergency communication network. Curtis LeGeet, president
• 57:21
  Speaker 2: and chief executive of the National Association of Broadcasters, says
• 57:24
  Speaker 2: as much as our technology continues to evolve, nothing has
• 57:27
  Speaker 2: changed the fact that if you don't have a cell
• 57:29
  Speaker 2: network and you don't have power, radio is your lifeline. True,
• 57:36
  Speaker 2: I suppose. But in an automobile, an electric vehicle, you're
• 57:45
  Speaker 2: not going to have anything if it doesn't work, right? Anyway,
• 57:50
  Speaker 2: carmakers have said that currents from EV motors can interfere
• 57:54
  Speaker 2: with AM broadcast signals, and that's why they claim they've
• 57:58
  Speaker 2: removed AM from new models. an industry-funded study by the
• 58:02
  Speaker 2: group Centers for Automotive Research. Never heard of it, but
• 58:05
  Speaker 2: there it is. Estimated it will cost automakers $ 3. 8 billion
• 58:09
  Speaker 2: to mitigate the interference problems. Okay. Don't know how they
• 58:17
  Speaker 2: mitigate it, but this is an illustration of government telling
• 58:22
  Speaker 2: manufacturers what they must or must not put in the car.
• 58:29
  Speaker 2: And if AM radio meant so much to so many people,
• 58:31
  Speaker 2: wouldn't they make a demand? Like, I want a car
• 58:33
  Speaker 2: with an AM radio. You're not offering one. I'm going
• 58:35
  Speaker 2: to go buy one from somebody who does, I guess.
• 58:38
  Speaker 2: I suppose you can get a transistor radio and keep
• 58:40
  Speaker 2: it in the glove box of your car to the
• 58:41
  Speaker 2: extent it peters out. I know you can stream 55KRC
• 58:44
  Speaker 2: on the iHeartMedia app, which I presume you can get
• 58:47
  Speaker 2: through your electric vehicle, high-falutin, easy-to-access, Bluetooth-connected radio. But see, fundamentally,
• 58:55
  Speaker 2: I'm against government telling manufacturers what to do. springing from
• 59:02
  Speaker 2: my little L libertarian perspective. And yes, I know that's
• 59:05
  Speaker 2: not good for my business personally, but you know, just
• 59:09
  Speaker 2: in the same way, I'm not going to vote money
• 59:11
  Speaker 2: out of your pocket and put it in my pocket.
• 59:12
  Speaker 2: I'm not here to tell a manufacturer what it needs
• 59:15
  Speaker 2: to offer by way of options in a vehicle. And
• 59:17
  Speaker 2: you know what? I'm a big fan of the minimalist vehicle.
• 59:20
  Speaker 2: So many people can't afford a new vehicle these days
• 59:22
  Speaker 2: because of all the technology that's been forced by government
• 59:25
  Speaker 2: regulation to be incorporated into cars. Talk about the price
• 59:28
  Speaker 2: of a car going up. You must put this. You
• 59:30
  Speaker 2: must have a backup camera. You must, you must, you must.
• 59:33
  Speaker 2: And you get to the point where you can't even
• 59:34
  Speaker 2: afford to buy a car. How about a roll-down window,
• 59:37
  Speaker 2: old school, internal combustion engine, minimalist car, maybe even a carburetor.
• 59:41
  Speaker 2: I'm kidding. With no technology. Buy it for, let's say, $ 18, 000.
• 59:44
  Speaker 2: If you want more stuff on it, go ahead and
• 59:47
  Speaker 2: order it. Those are options. I think a lot of
• 59:52
  Speaker 2: people would step and stand in line to get a
• 59:54
  Speaker 2: car that they can afford. Don't go away, Jay. I
• 59:56
  Speaker 2: see you on the call screen. It's 645, and I
• 59:59
  Speaker 2: promise to get your call right now. 650-855-KERCY, Detox Station.
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 2: Compliance training, right, Joe? It's so much fun. It makes
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 2: so much sense. Yeah, we've got to do that. We
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 2: get these compliance training things we've got to do online.
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 2: It's like, man, I have seen this before. I remember
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 2: it from last year. Why do I have to do
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 2: it again? Well, the FCC, that's why. And real quick,
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 2: I'm going to get Jay's phone calls. I promise, Jay
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 2: and Mike, hold on. You'll be next. I just asked
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 2: a question. Listen, I am not a tech guru, but
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 2: insofar as AM is concerned, I don't understand this interference
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 2: argument with an electric vehicle. Here's another reason not to
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 2: buy an EV. The AM signal is like God. It's
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 2: around you all the time. So where's the interference coming from?
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 2: You have a device that converts the signal that's around
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 2: us all the time into something that you can actually hear,
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 2: and that causes the interference? Again, no tech geek am I.
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 2: But I can't answer the phones, and Jay is there waiting. Jay,
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 2: thanks for indulging me on that little rant there. Good
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 2: to hear back from you.
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 13: Hey, Brian.
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 11: Hey, I was going to say, I think it's time
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 11: to bring on the humanoid robots for garbage collection to
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 11: embrace technology whenever people can't show up for work.
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 2: Jay, they do have self-driving autonomous vehicles, don't they, Waymo?
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 2: Put it in a truck. Yeah, and they have the
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 2: arms that automatically pick the can up and dump the...
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 2: You don't even have to pick a can up anymore.
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 2: I've seen that. Jay, you're on to something. Autonomous garbage
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 2: collection vehicles.
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 11: And, you know, snowplow and everything else. But the problem is,
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 11: I would say, let's take the savings and put it
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 11: towards property tax. I think by the time that the
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 11: voters in city council got a hold of it, we'd
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 11: probably take the savings and vote to give it to
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 11: the Bengals or the Browns to, you know, because they're underfunded.
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 11: Please understand any economic development prosperity that comes out of that.
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 11: Just look at every NFL city like Baltimore and Detroit
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 11: and Cleveland and just booming due to the NFL money.
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 11: But again, But back to your point on AM radio
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 11: and government overreach, are they going to put it on
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 11: every bicycle? Is it going to be on the– what's
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 11: your favorite thing down there? The city– what's that thing called?
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 2: The trolley.
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 11: Will the trolley have it?
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 2: The streetcar?
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 11: Yeah, the streetcar. Is it going to have to have
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 11: an AM radio? I mean, if this is like national security,
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 11: I think every bicycle, skateboard– everything ought to have an
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 11: AM radio if that's the justification.
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 2: Oh, and Joe suggested that part of the legislation will
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 2: include an obligation to only play NPR.
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 7: Oh, absolutely.
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 3: This is why I love Joe Strecker. Comments like that
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 3: are going into my headset all throughout the show. It's
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 3: like I struggle with what I need to say out
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 3: loud and pass along from Joe.
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 2: But yeah.
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 13: Yeah.
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 11: Yeah, well, good thing we have Republicans in charge with
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 11: their small government ideas and fiscal responsibility.
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 6: I'm with you.
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 11: Anytime I start hearing bipartisan, you know, I'm stoned out
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 11: over Bernie Marino. partnering up with Elizabeth Warren to increase
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 11: the cap on Social Security. That's very small government of him.
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 11: And now he's drafting legislation to hand out $ 5, 000 if
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 11: they can buy votes. Again, very small government of him.
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 11: But back to this, I wish once that the automakers
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 11: would go to court, but I know that the hammer
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 11: would come down on the federal government. Don't you dare.
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 11: push back on us, on what's written in the Constitution.
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 9: So they'll fall in line, and it won't cost them
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 9: a dime.
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 11: I heard about the $ 5 billion or how much.
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 1: It's going to cost us.
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 2: It's like it always costs us. If they do buck
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 2: the system, then Congress will threaten to bring back CAFE
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 2: standards that they can never comply with. Thanks, Jay. Appreciate
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 2: that one. Let's see what Mike's got this morning. Mike,
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 2: thanks for calling. Welcome to the morning show.
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 4: Hey, Brian.
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 15: I was wondering about the interference they're saying from the engine,
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 15: on an old CRT monitor, the big giant tubes you
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 15: used to have, on the cable, there used to be
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 15: a little bulge on it, like a little square box.
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 15: There's actually little metal rings inside that that gets rid
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 15: of interference so the monitor don't work right.
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 5: Okay. Okay.
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 15: It's a simple solution.
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 2: According to the reporting, the industry says it'll cost them
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 2: $ 3. 9 billion to overcome the so-called interference problem. And I'm just, again,
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 2: scratching my head. If the airwaves are all around you
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 2: all the time, and they literally are, what's causing the interference?
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 2: What inside the car is generating that interference? It's like
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 2: the peace of God. It is beyond my understanding. Maybe
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 2: it's beyond all human understanding, although no, it isn't, because
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 2: apparently they can do it. It just comes with a
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 2: price tag. But again, my fundamental point on all this
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 2: is I don't like government telling people what to do,
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 2: and I don't like government mandating that manufacturers do one
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 2: thing or another. That's what you and I decide in
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 2: a free market. If we demand it, someone will make
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 2: it because there's money to be made. It's an incentive.
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 2: Give the people what they want. 6.55, 55KRC, The Talk Station.
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 2: Dave Williams, Taxpayer Protection Alliance, coming out of the gate
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 2: right after the top of the hour news.
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 14: At the top of the hour, get the top stories
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 14: of the day. The Talk Station.
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 2: There it is. 7.06 here, 55KRC, The Talk Station. Regular
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 2: listeners know. coming up right now. Welcome back to the
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 2: 55 KRC Morning Show. Mr. Streetcar himself, Dave Williams from
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 2: the Taxpayer Protection Alliance, protectingtaxpayers.org. Dave, it's good to have
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 2: you back on the show, man. Welcome.
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 1: Thanks, Brian. And I got to tell you, if I
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 1: ever make it into the major leagues, that's going to
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 1: be my walk-up music.
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 2: It should be.
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 1: That will be, yeah.
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 2: Well, you know, my morning show theme, I always open
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 2: the morning show with Enema from Tool. And if you
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 2: read the lyrics, you know exactly why that is my
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 2: favorite song lyrically. And That's what I open up with,
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 2: but what a perfect song for you, Dave. And you
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 2: know what? Hey, our little loop streetcar that really takes
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 2: you from point A to point B doesn't really effectively
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 2: get people where they need to go, I guess, unless
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 2: it's raining. It's free. It generated $ 1. 3 billion of revenue
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 2: for the city of Cincinnati investment. Where do you think
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 2: that figure came from, Dave?
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 1: Oh, I can tell you, but you'd be fined by
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 1: the FCC.
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 2: Sphincter. The answer is sphincter. Everybody's got one. They pulled
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 2: it out. Yeah, okay. Dave, we don't need to. Well,
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 2: or the bubbling bong of stupidity. Either way, if you
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 2: utter it, it must be true. Dave Williams, have you seen,
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 2: I know it's going on all over this country, massive
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 2: protests over golf courses and their water usage. That's a thing,
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 2: isn't it? Oh, no, it isn't.
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 1: No, you know, it's funny you bring this up because
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 1: I have a friend who is a Republican, lives out
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 1: in Virginia. He hates data centers, right? He just says
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 1: they use too much water, yet he golfs three times
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 1: a week. And he would probably drive over his own
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 1: mother to build a new golf course. And I'm like,
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 1: wait a second. You do know that there's a problem
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 1: here with your logic. So, yes, it's interesting.
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 2: And let's sprinkle a little AI overview of that data.
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 2: I'm going to assume for the sake of discussion that
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 2: this is accurate. I said, how much water does the
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 2: average golf course use per year? Answer, 90 to 114
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 2: million gallons. which averages out to 312,000 gallons per day,
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 2: which I think dwarfs any data center usage of water.
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 2: And no one even considers the fact that, like the
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 2: radiators in our car, closed-loop cooling systems are all the
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 2: rage these days, so minimal water usage.
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 1: So, Brian, we looked at the numbers, and we looked
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 1: at the numbers in Ohio and a lot of other states.
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 1: I think we're up to 40 states at this point
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 1: that in Ohio— 0.6% of all water consumption is used
• 1:07:59
  Speaker 1: by data centers. 0.6, less than 1% of water consumption
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 1: in the state of Ohio is data centers. Those are
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 1: the numbers. That's not spin. Those are numbers.
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 2: So is the overall volume of water used by golf courses?
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 2: And I'm quick to observe a lot of other industries
• 1:08:18
  Speaker 2: and businesses use a lot of water. They all seem
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 2: to be immune from criticism by protesters. This has nothing
• 1:08:24
  Speaker 2: to do with water. This is everything to do with
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 2: people's concern over AI just generally.
• 1:08:30
  Speaker 1: Absolutely. And listen, I know people are afraid of AI,
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 1: but AI is happening and it's going to be more
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 1: a part of our lives in the coming years. And
• 1:08:39
  Speaker 1: do we want it developed here or do we want
• 1:08:41
  Speaker 1: it developed abroad? We want it here. We want to
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  Speaker 1: get the economic benefit. Virginia, the state of Virginia has
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 1: seen massive economic boom. I mean, they have reduced property
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 1: taxes and in certain counties in Virginia because of data centers.
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 1: Data centers are writing checks, dividend checks, a real dividend check,
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 1: not the fake dividend check coming from the federal government,
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 1: but a real dividend check coming from companies to the citizens.
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  Speaker 1: They're building infrastructure, not data centers. They're building aquatic centers.
• 1:09:09
  Speaker 1: They're building all sorts of infrastructure in these counties. People
• 1:09:13
  Speaker 1: are getting rich off of these data centers.
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  Speaker 4: That's great.
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  Speaker 1: This is what this country should be. This is infrastructure.
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 1: This is amazing. And people are protesting them.
• 1:09:23
  Speaker 2: Yes, they are. Now, power demand may be one thing
• 1:09:26
  Speaker 2: you might want to worry about, but the biggest impediment
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 2: to power generation, reliable power generation, is everybody on the
• 1:09:32
  Speaker 2: left-hand side of the political ledger and anybody else who
• 1:09:34
  Speaker 2: believes that exhalation is killing the planet. I mean... If
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 2: data centers were free to bring their own electricity, I
• 1:09:40
  Speaker 2: know it's theoretically possible because we do have small modular
• 1:09:44
  Speaker 2: reactors that are a real thing that exist right now.
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 2: If we got ourselves out of our own way, we
• 1:09:49
  Speaker 2: might be able to have that, and we'd all have cheap, inexpensive,
• 1:09:52
  Speaker 2: small footprint, low water use, no waste electricity. Right, Dave?
• 1:09:57
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and listen, technology brings more efficiencies. Look at the
• 1:10:02
  Speaker 1: automobile and the mileage we're getting out of automobiles. The
• 1:10:05
  Speaker 1: same thing is going to happen with data centers, and
• 1:10:07
  Speaker 1: whether they're using water or electricity, it's going to become
• 1:10:11
  Speaker 1: more efficient. And they should be allowed to build these
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 1: small modular nuclear reactors. They should use all energy sources
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 1: that they can. And a lot of times, it's permitting.
• 1:10:22
  Speaker 1: It's county, it's state permitting that gets in the way
• 1:10:26
  Speaker 1: of the development of this. So the state says you're
• 1:10:28
  Speaker 1: using all this electricity. Well, give us the opportunity to
• 1:10:33
  Speaker 1: use our own electricity so the state gets in the way.
• 1:10:37
  Speaker 2: So where do you see this thing shaking out, Dave Williams,
• 1:10:40
  Speaker 2: if you had the tea leaf read? So I think
• 1:10:44
  Speaker 2: because we've got to throw in the reality that we're
• 1:10:47
  Speaker 2: dealing with right now, that out of nowhere came this, oh,
• 1:10:51
  Speaker 2: my God, we're all going to die. AI is going
• 1:10:53
  Speaker 2: to kill us. So that this is this a false
• 1:10:56
  Speaker 2: flag kind of thing going on? Because right in front
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 2: of the November election, we got all the Democrats come
• 1:10:59
  Speaker 2: up and say, no, we need to put the brakes
• 1:11:01
  Speaker 2: on AI. Look what they say it can do. And
• 1:11:03
  Speaker 2: as soon as Barack Obama sticks his head up and
• 1:11:05
  Speaker 2: is joining the chorus of that side, I know there
• 1:11:07
  Speaker 2: is something nefarious going on here that has nothing to
• 1:11:10
  Speaker 2: do with us dying.
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  Speaker 1: Well, if you want to kill a technology and a
• 1:11:14
  Speaker 1: good idea, give it to Congress. Have Congress do something
• 1:11:18
  Speaker 1: about it. And listen, I think with data centers, there's
• 1:11:21
  Speaker 1: going to be the haves and the have-nots. The areas
• 1:11:24
  Speaker 1: that don't have the moratorium, they're going to see the
• 1:11:27
  Speaker 1: building of these data centers. They're going to see the
• 1:11:29
  Speaker 1: economic benefits of these data centers. The have-nots are the ones.
• 1:11:33
  Speaker 1: that they think the sky is falling and they're gonna
• 1:11:36
  Speaker 1: look to their neighbor and go, whoa, why didn't we
• 1:11:38
  Speaker 1: do that? Why do we have a moratorium? And they're
• 1:11:40
  Speaker 1: gonna try to catch up to them. And we've interviewed
• 1:11:45
  Speaker 1: property owners a few months ago, actually last month, we
• 1:11:48
  Speaker 1: interviewed property owners in Virginia that were not allowed sell
• 1:11:52
  Speaker 1: their own property. They approached a data center and said,
• 1:11:57
  Speaker 1: we want to sell you our property so you can
• 1:11:59
  Speaker 1: build here. The county and the state said, no, you
• 1:12:03
  Speaker 1: had these greeny nonprofits coming in and saying, you can't
• 1:12:07
  Speaker 1: sell your own property. What kind of country do we
• 1:12:09
  Speaker 1: live in? When a property owner who has owned this
• 1:12:13
  Speaker 1: property for 80, 100 years and said, listen, farming doesn't
• 1:12:16
  Speaker 1: make us money anymore. We want to sell the property
• 1:12:19
  Speaker 1: to a data center. No, you can't. You don't have
• 1:12:22
  Speaker 1: control over your own property.
• 1:12:24
  Speaker 2: This is like a two-fold thing here. The property owner
• 1:12:27
  Speaker 2: has the right to alienate the property, has an absolute
• 1:12:29
  Speaker 2: right to sell the property. It is a thing that
• 1:12:31
  Speaker 2: they are entitled to by virtue of ownership to sell.
• 1:12:34
  Speaker 2: Just because you sell it to Chad GPT's owner or something,
• 1:12:40
  Speaker 2: that doesn't mean it's necessarily going to result in a
• 1:12:42
  Speaker 2: data center where your property is. They have to deal
• 1:12:44
  Speaker 2: with the challenges, the regulatory issues and everything else that's
• 1:12:47
  Speaker 2: standing in the way of them building the data center.
• 1:12:48
  Speaker 2: But acquisition of land, that should not factor into the
• 1:12:51
  Speaker 2: equation because they're not creating a data center by the
• 1:12:54
  Speaker 2: sale of land.
• 1:12:56
  Speaker 1: And it was these same property owners that the state
• 1:12:58
  Speaker 1: came in and said, we're putting up these huge transmission
• 1:13:00
  Speaker 1: lines in your backyard. Nothing you can do about it.
• 1:13:03
  Speaker 1: So we are going to tell you what to do
• 1:13:06
  Speaker 1: with your property and what you can't do. And this
• 1:13:09
  Speaker 1: is not the country that I was.
• 1:13:10
  Speaker 13: Born in, man.
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  Speaker 2: No, but this is the kind of thing that DSA
• 1:13:13
  Speaker 2: platform and the advocates for the government control will absolutely
• 1:13:17
  Speaker 2: bring you in all facets and areas of your life. Look, Dave,
• 1:13:21
  Speaker 2: I just got done with the terror. Listen, I I
• 1:13:23
  Speaker 2: recognize the 55K Racing Morning Show traditionally perceived to be
• 1:13:26
  Speaker 2: an AM radio station. Terrestrially speaking, you've got to have
• 1:13:29
  Speaker 2: an AM radio. I am against Congress telling automobile manufacturers
• 1:13:33
  Speaker 2: that they must put an AM radio in their car.
• 1:13:36
  Speaker 2: They're telling manufacturers what to do, and I stand against
• 1:13:39
  Speaker 2: that just as a concept, Dave. Where's the TPA on
• 1:13:42
  Speaker 2: that one?
• 1:13:44
  Speaker 1: This is so bizarre because we have so many problems
• 1:13:48
  Speaker 1: in this country, fiscal problems. We have a president that
• 1:13:51
  Speaker 1: wants to spend $ 1. 2 trillion on stimulus, dividend, whatever you
• 1:13:56
  Speaker 1: want to call it. Not dividend because the government doesn't
• 1:13:58
  Speaker 1: make any money. But he wants to spend $ 1. 2 trillion
• 1:14:01
  Speaker 1: on these checks. What does Congress take up? AM radio
• 1:14:05
  Speaker 1: in cars. NCAA sports. What the NCAA can do with sports.
• 1:14:10
  Speaker 5: What?
• 1:14:12
  Speaker 1: Are these really the priorities? And then Mike Johnson, Speaker
• 1:14:14
  Speaker 1: of the House, adjourns early and leaves Washington yesterday so
• 1:14:21
  Speaker 1: they can go home and try to convince people they're
• 1:14:23
  Speaker 1: doing a good job. That's why he left, is he
• 1:14:25
  Speaker 1: wants Republicans to go home to campaign and say, reelect
• 1:14:30
  Speaker 1: me because I've done so much.
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  Speaker 6: What?
• 1:14:32
  Speaker 1: I mean, the priorities are completely out of whack. AM
• 1:14:35
  Speaker 1: radio and cars, that is not a priority for Congress
• 1:14:39
  Speaker 1: at all.
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  Speaker 2: And again, it's The means of production. Capitalist demands serve
• 1:14:44
  Speaker 2: demands of the people. And if the people want AM radios,
• 1:14:47
  Speaker 2: then they're going to damn well put a radio in
• 1:14:48
  Speaker 2: the car. Don't buy a BMW if you don't like
• 1:14:51
  Speaker 2: the fact it doesn't have an AM radio in it. Anyway,
• 1:14:54
  Speaker 2: Dave Williams, Taxpayer Protection Alliance. Find them online at protectingtaxpayers.org.
• 1:14:57
  Speaker 2: We've got a whole lot more to talk about beyond
• 1:14:59
  Speaker 2: data centers, including Medicare payment reforms. They say long overdue,
• 1:15:03
  Speaker 2: the TPA does. Don't go away. Be right back. 720 here,
• 1:15:08
  Speaker 2: 55KRCD Talk Station. Dave Williams. It's been a long time
• 1:15:13
  Speaker 2: since we had Dave on the program. He's with Taxpayer
• 1:15:14
  Speaker 2: Protection Alliance, which you should follow online. Bookmark the site, protectingtaxpayers.org.
• 1:15:19
  Speaker 2: You ever get to the point where you think you're
• 1:15:21
  Speaker 2: just going to give up, Dave?
• 1:15:26
  Speaker 1: Yes and no. I mean, there are times where I
• 1:15:28
  Speaker 1: just like, you know, but then the D.C. streetcar goes away,
• 1:15:33
  Speaker 1: and I'm like, oh, my gosh, there is hope.
• 1:15:35
  Speaker 2: There is.
• 1:15:36
  Speaker 1: There is a light at the end of the tunnel,
• 1:15:38
  Speaker 1: and it's not the streetcar coming to hit me.
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  Speaker 7: Well.
• 1:15:40
  Speaker 2: You know, the predicate for me asking that question, and
• 1:15:43
  Speaker 2: I know you're not going to give up, is the
• 1:15:45
  Speaker 2: reporting you, Ross Morshon, I'll give credit to, wrote the
• 1:15:48
  Speaker 2: article about Medicare payment reforms are long overdue. And this
• 1:15:50
  Speaker 2: fun fact, a quote from the editorial board of the
• 1:15:53
  Speaker 2: Washington Post, of the projected $ 138 trillion budget shortfall over
• 1:15:56
  Speaker 2: the next 30 years, $ 109 trillion is from Medicare. $ 138, 000
• 1:15:58
  Speaker 2: trillion is the projected shortfall, or the $ 138, 000 billion is
• 1:16:12
  Speaker 2: what they're projecting on the current trajectory? Have we gone
• 1:16:16
  Speaker 2: bat crap insane? Has the train left the building, Dave?
• 1:16:19
  Speaker 2: Because that's impossible. We can't continue to dig this hole.
• 1:16:24
  Speaker 1: The insanity, Brian, is that No one's doing anything about it.
• 1:16:29
  Speaker 13: I know.
• 1:16:30
  Speaker 1: The insanity is that Congress has their head in the sand.
• 1:16:34
  Speaker 1: And listen, this is both Democrats and Republicans. Let's be
• 1:16:37
  Speaker 1: clear that Democrats are calling for Medicare for all. That
• 1:16:41
  Speaker 1: number that you just mentioned will be a lot more
• 1:16:45
  Speaker 1: if we have Medicare for all. The DSA wing of
• 1:16:48
  Speaker 1: the Democratic Party wants to expand Medicare to a point
• 1:16:51
  Speaker 1: where we don't even recognize it. And we need some
• 1:16:56
  Speaker 1: common sense reform. We have to figure this out. With
• 1:17:00
  Speaker 1: interest rates going up, the debt is going to go up.
• 1:17:04
  Speaker 1: Interest on the debt is going to increase. And Medicare,
• 1:17:06
  Speaker 1: Social Security, these are the drivers of the debt and
• 1:17:10
  Speaker 1: of the deficit.
• 1:17:12
  Speaker 2: Dave, the answer then is we need Medicare for all.
• 1:17:20
  Speaker 1: Medicare for all money.
• 1:17:21
  Speaker 2: For not no one. This is the key to the Democrats'
• 1:17:25
  Speaker 2: platforms is Medicare for all. It's almost the first platform.
• 1:17:28
  Speaker 2: platform position they utter in any discussion on what they
• 1:17:31
  Speaker 2: want to do with the country. Well, if you say
• 1:17:38
  Speaker 2: Cato calculated the numbers and even just doing that one thing,
• 1:17:41
  Speaker 2: aside from all the other things they want to do
• 1:17:43
  Speaker 2: to destroy our country, we can't even afford that one
• 1:17:46
  Speaker 2: thing on the trajectory we're on. It's just, it's trillions
• 1:17:49
  Speaker 2: of dollars, even over a decade or something crazy like that.
• 1:17:53
  Speaker 1: And healthcare isn't getting any better as a, you know,
• 1:17:56
  Speaker 1: let's call this a business, right? the Taxpayers Protection Alliance,
• 1:18:00
  Speaker 1: my healthcare costs go up every single year. We're not
• 1:18:03
  Speaker 1: getting better coverage. We're just getting more expensive healthcare. And
• 1:18:07
  Speaker 1: we're trying to keep pace with that. And we used
• 1:18:09
  Speaker 1: to be able to cover 100 percent of people's health care.
• 1:18:12
  Speaker 1: Now it's 80 percent because we just can't do it
• 1:18:15
  Speaker 1: fiscally and financially.
• 1:18:17
  Speaker 13: And, you know.
• 1:18:18
  Speaker 1: We're trying to remain competitive with other groups. And it's
• 1:18:21
  Speaker 1: just not happening, Brian. I mean, we spend a lot
• 1:18:24
  Speaker 1: of money every year just on health care. And we
• 1:18:26
  Speaker 1: always will because we will take care of our people.
• 1:18:29
  Speaker 1: But it's getting more expensive and it's not getting better.
• 1:18:32
  Speaker 2: Well, and, you know, the big elephant in the room
• 1:18:33
  Speaker 2: on this discussion is we are not a very healthy society.
• 1:18:37
  Speaker 2: And if we just took a little bit better care
• 1:18:39
  Speaker 2: of ourselves and ate better food and maybe exercised a
• 1:18:42
  Speaker 2: little bit in our own lives, we could avoid a
• 1:18:44
  Speaker 2: lot of the problems that are associated with needing health care.
• 1:18:47
  Speaker 2: I mean, I hate to state the obvious, but first
• 1:18:49
  Speaker 2: line of defense. is man looking at the mirror.
• 1:18:53
  Speaker 1: Personal responsibility goes a long way, a long way in
• 1:18:57
  Speaker 1: so many things, whether it's health care, whether it's fiscal
• 1:19:00
  Speaker 1: personal responsibility, it goes a long way.
• 1:19:03
  Speaker 2: It sure does. Well, I'll tell you what, we'll take
• 1:19:05
  Speaker 2: an early break in this segment. Almost out of time
• 1:19:07
  Speaker 2: in this segment anyway. We'll talk about the Taxpayer Assistance
• 1:19:10
  Speaker 2: and Services Act, which apparently needs to be improved, says
• 1:19:14
  Speaker 2: the Taxpayer Protection Alliance. More with Dave Williams after a
• 1:19:18
  Speaker 2: mention of really a great talk station. It's 728 at 55KRC,
• 1:19:24
  Speaker 2: the talk station. Dave Williams, Taxpayer Protection Alliance, spending some
• 1:19:27
  Speaker 2: time here with the 55KRC Morning Show audience, and I
• 1:19:29
  Speaker 2: appreciate him doing so and appreciate what Taxpayer Protection Alliance
• 1:19:31
  Speaker 2: does for the American taxpayer each and every day, at least.
• 1:19:34
  Speaker 2: Documented proof that you are, well, having your labor ripped
• 1:19:38
  Speaker 2: off and wasted in massive fraud and abuse, as well
• 1:19:41
  Speaker 2: as just mismanaged programs. Talked about Medicare a moment ago.
• 1:19:44
  Speaker 2: Now we're going to dive into the TAS, the Taxpayer
• 1:19:47
  Speaker 2: Assistance and Services Act. Described as the most extensive overhaul
• 1:19:53
  Speaker 2: of the federal tax administration in years, and you're singing
• 1:19:55
  Speaker 2: some praises for it over the Taxpayer Protection Alliance, Dave,
• 1:19:57
  Speaker 2: but it apparently needs a few tweaks. Generally speaking, what
• 1:20:00
  Speaker 2: does this do up front before tweaks, and what do
• 1:20:02
  Speaker 2: we need to do to it to make it perfect?
• 1:20:05
  Speaker 1: Yeah, really, this is just updating the IRS to make
• 1:20:09
  Speaker 1: refunds more accessible. Now, listen, I don't get a refund
• 1:20:13
  Speaker 1: because I don't give the IRS too much money over
• 1:20:15
  Speaker 1: the course of the year. I would rather pay a
• 1:20:18
  Speaker 1: little bit in April just to make sure that they
• 1:20:20
  Speaker 1: are not using my money.
• 1:20:22
  Speaker 2: I know, time value money, the nearest to your benefit.
• 1:20:25
  Speaker 2: You put it in the pocket. You know you could
• 1:20:26
  Speaker 2: put it in an investment account, and that money you
• 1:20:28
  Speaker 2: extra overpaid could earn interest at least. Yeah, don't give
• 1:20:32
  Speaker 2: it to them. I sing that song every single year.
• 1:20:35
  Speaker 2: I'd rather write a check than get one back.
• 1:20:39
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and one of the provisions is really to put
• 1:20:41
  Speaker 1: a shot clock on refund claims, right? Because right now,
• 1:20:45
  Speaker 1: if you do a refund, they can take years and
• 1:20:49
  Speaker 1: years until they decide to look at your claim. Well,
• 1:20:54
  Speaker 1: the shot clock now is a year, 12 months. And
• 1:20:57
  Speaker 1: I think a lot of what happens, Brian, is that
• 1:20:59
  Speaker 1: people are afraid. People are afraid. because the IRS wields
• 1:21:03
  Speaker 1: so much power. Listen, the Pentagon spends $ 1 trillion to
• 1:21:07
  Speaker 1: bomb places, but it doesn't have as much power as
• 1:21:09
  Speaker 1: the IRS and as much fear that the IRS instills
• 1:21:13
  Speaker 1: in people. Listen, is this new legislation perfect? Absolutely not.
• 1:21:18
  Speaker 1: But I think it's a step in the right direction.
• 1:21:20
  Speaker 1: And we need to recognize that the IRS has to
• 1:21:23
  Speaker 1: be more responsive and really more technologically savvy. We have
• 1:21:28
  Speaker 1: systems in the IRS that are 50 years old, computer
• 1:21:30
  Speaker 1: systems that are 50 years old. And there's been great strides.
• 1:21:35
  Speaker 1: We've talked about this before, direct file. This was the
• 1:21:38
  Speaker 1: idea of the IRS preparing your taxes, not just processing them,
• 1:21:42
  Speaker 1: but preparing them. Luckily, when President Trump came in, they
• 1:21:46
  Speaker 1: killed that program. That's amazing. Do you want the IRS
• 1:21:51
  Speaker 1: preparing your taxes and deciding what your deductions are? Well,
• 1:21:56
  Speaker 1: absolutely not.
• 1:21:57
  Speaker 2: I imagine that there are accountant firm lobbying dollars that
• 1:22:01
  Speaker 2: would hate that reality.
• 1:22:04
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:22:04
  Speaker 1: And the fact of the matter is that the IRS
• 1:22:07
  Speaker 1: is not going to be the one saying, oh, we
• 1:22:09
  Speaker 1: really want to give you a big refund. Absolutely not.
• 1:22:12
  Speaker 1: I mean, I want some nerdy accountant. You know, I'm
• 1:22:16
  Speaker 1: picturing the visor and the glasses, you know, and that's
• 1:22:20
  Speaker 1: how old I am. And, you know, determining what my
• 1:22:23
  Speaker 1: refund or what I have to pay because he's looking
• 1:22:25
  Speaker 1: out for me. The IRS ain't looking out for me.
• 1:22:28
  Speaker 13: Shocker.
• 1:22:28
  Speaker 2: No, not at all. And in fact, sometimes it can
• 1:22:30
  Speaker 2: be weaponized to go after certain organizations and political ideologies.
• 1:22:35
  Speaker 2: Remember Lois Lerner, right?
• 1:22:37
  Speaker 13: Oh, yeah.
• 1:22:38
  Speaker 1: She she signed the TPA's letter back in 2011. And
• 1:22:42
  Speaker 1: we so we were lucky, you know, because I guess
• 1:22:45
  Speaker 1: we didn't have the word liberty or freedom.
• 1:22:47
  Speaker 2: Right. In our name.
• 1:22:48
  Speaker 1: But we were we were approved. And but she weaponized
• 1:22:51
  Speaker 1: the whole place was weaponized in 2010, 2011.
• 1:22:54
  Speaker 2: Well, let me ask you this, Dave. Oh, and I
• 1:22:56
  Speaker 2: have to observe a 50 year old system over the IRS. Obviously,
• 1:22:59
  Speaker 2: we've moved beyond floppy drives, but that's the same kind
• 1:23:02
  Speaker 2: of system they use over the FAA to keep us
• 1:23:04
  Speaker 2: from crashing planes into each other. Thanks a lot. Talk
• 1:23:07
  Speaker 2: about priorities. Anyway.
• 1:23:10
  Speaker 1: And the amount of money that we spend when you
• 1:23:12
  Speaker 1: fly the taxes, where's the modernization of the FAA? And
• 1:23:17
  Speaker 1: it's just, it's frustrating because we're paying into this and
• 1:23:19
  Speaker 1: we're getting nothing for it.
• 1:23:21
  Speaker 2: No question about it. Hey, has the idea of, well,
• 1:23:25
  Speaker 2: and my, my, my, I will call it a pipe
• 1:23:27
  Speaker 2: dream as opposed to another kind of dream. But my, my,
• 1:23:29
  Speaker 2: my ultimate dream would be to get rid of the
• 1:23:31
  Speaker 2: entire IRS tax code and just throw it out in
• 1:23:34
  Speaker 2: favor of something like a flannel flat tax. where you
• 1:23:36
  Speaker 2: aren't incentivized to do anything. You just simply pay a
• 1:23:40
  Speaker 2: flat amount, businesses, industry, individuals, whatever. And that used to
• 1:23:45
  Speaker 2: be a concept that was widely discussed and embraced by
• 1:23:48
  Speaker 2: many people, including me, or some concept like that, but
• 1:23:51
  Speaker 2: no discussion anymore about it. Is that gone the way
• 1:23:53
  Speaker 2: of the dodo, at least as a concept, or is
• 1:23:55
  Speaker 2: there some glimmer of hope that I can hold on to?
• 1:23:58
  Speaker 1: Sorry, no glimmer of hope. Listen, I love the flat
• 1:24:01
  Speaker 1: taxed The problem is that any proposal for the flat
• 1:24:04
  Speaker 1: tax doesn't dismantle the IRS. So if you have a
• 1:24:07
  Speaker 1: flat tax, you're building upon the system that's already there
• 1:24:11
  Speaker 1: and you have to dismantle the IRS. And whenever you
• 1:24:14
  Speaker 1: talk about a flat tax, then you have the fair
• 1:24:16
  Speaker 1: tax people calling up. So I think it's really, again,
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  Speaker 1: but we need to have these discussions. And listen, when
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  Speaker 1: I say there's no glimmer of hope, I'm not saying
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  Speaker 1: we shouldn't talk about it because this is something that
• 1:24:27
  Speaker 1: needs to be discussed is how do we modernize Our
• 1:24:30
  Speaker 1: tax system, when I say modernize, I don't mean make
• 1:24:33
  Speaker 1: it more difficult. I mean, make it simpler and look
• 1:24:36
  Speaker 1: at the flat tax and what that would mean for revenues.
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  Speaker 2: Well, what would it mean for revenues? Have those numbers
• 1:24:42
  Speaker 2: been crunched? If you can't deduct, I mean, the left
• 1:24:45
  Speaker 2: is always screaming about how, you know, big businesses don't
• 1:24:47
  Speaker 2: pay anything. Those evil billionaires. Well, that's because the IRS
• 1:24:50
  Speaker 2: has written the tax code. Our elected officials have written
• 1:24:52
  Speaker 2: the tax code to provide them with the benefit of
• 1:24:55
  Speaker 2: things to let them write off their taxes. It's not
• 1:24:58
  Speaker 2: a loophole that they benefit from, and it's been intentionally
• 1:25:00
  Speaker 2: written in there for that purpose. That's the stuff that
• 1:25:03
  Speaker 2: pisses people off, and that seems to me it should
• 1:25:05
  Speaker 2: be enjoying widespread bipartisan support, but I guess lawmakers would
• 1:25:09
  Speaker 2: be holding to all those businesses and industries that do
• 1:25:11
  Speaker 2: whatever the hell they want so they wouldn't take away
• 1:25:13
  Speaker 2: the tax breaks that are in there.
• 1:25:15
  Speaker 1: The last time I saw any numbers that were run
• 1:25:18
  Speaker 1: for the flat tax, I believe it was like 17%
• 1:25:20
  Speaker 1: was the sweet spot. 4%. But that was a number
• 1:25:27
  Speaker 1: of years ago. With the amount of spending we have today,
• 1:25:30
  Speaker 1: that number is probably in the low 20s. But that's
• 1:25:33
  Speaker 1: what we're talking about. We're talking about low 20s at
• 1:25:35
  Speaker 1: this point would be the sweet spot to be able
• 1:25:38
  Speaker 1: to do a flat tax. And again, your postcard, we
• 1:25:41
  Speaker 1: talk about this, having submitted your taxes on a postcard.
• 1:25:46
  Speaker 1: That was a big thing that Dick Army talked about.
• 1:25:47
  Speaker 1: You probably remember this. Dick Army was a big proponent
• 1:25:50
  Speaker 1: of the flat tax. That's what he wanted, is just
• 1:25:52
  Speaker 1: you send in your your postcard, your taxes, and it's done.
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  Speaker 2: Well, and honestly, Dave, I'd even trust the IRS to
• 1:25:59
  Speaker 2: figure out what 20% of my W-2 revenue is. Only
• 1:26:04
  Speaker 2: take about a fraction of a second's time. You can't
• 1:26:06
  Speaker 2: screw up. You just multiply it by, you know, 20%.
• 1:26:08
  Speaker 2: You get the right figure. And you talk about having
• 1:26:14
  Speaker 2: to eliminate the IRS. Well, it wouldn't be as a
• 1:26:16
  Speaker 2: matter of course that you could eliminate the IRS simply
• 1:26:19
  Speaker 2: as a matter of attrition, just let the people either
• 1:26:21
  Speaker 2: retire or die off, and we won't replace the bodies
• 1:26:24
  Speaker 2: that are there because they don't have anything left to
• 1:26:26
  Speaker 2: do now that we've moved on and gotten a flat tax?
• 1:26:29
  Speaker 1: Well, they tried that during Doge for a number of agencies,
• 1:26:32
  Speaker 1: and it backfired, and it didn't work. So, I mean, listen, yes,
• 1:26:36
  Speaker 1: in theory, that's how it happens. In practice– I'm very
• 1:26:41
  Speaker 1: concerned that it would never happen that way.
• 1:26:43
  Speaker 13: And yeah.
• 1:26:44
  Speaker 2: So don't try it. That's what we get. It sounds good.
• 1:26:49
  Speaker 1: Don't try it. But we have to, you know, we're
• 1:26:51
  Speaker 1: not talking about it. That's the problem. Brian, I'm glad
• 1:26:53
  Speaker 1: we're talking about it because no one else is right.
• 1:26:56
  Speaker 1: No one in Congress is is talking about this.
• 1:26:59
  Speaker 2: Well, you know, in this this furor in this fury,
• 1:27:02
  Speaker 2: justifiably so. And I wish there was more of it over.
• 1:27:04
  Speaker 2: The fraud, the waste, the abuse, the inefficiency of government,
• 1:27:08
  Speaker 2: and every single dollar that's gone out the door and
• 1:27:11
  Speaker 2: in the pocket of some fraudster is labor. I always
• 1:27:14
  Speaker 2: like to express taxes in the form of labor. We
• 1:27:16
  Speaker 2: are literally slaves for whatever percentage of the income they're
• 1:27:19
  Speaker 2: taking us to the government. You must work for the government.
• 1:27:22
  Speaker 2: You don't get anything from it. They take your money
• 1:27:24
  Speaker 2: from you. Isn't that slavery, Dave?
• 1:27:28
  Speaker 14: Absolutely.
• 1:27:28
  Speaker 1: And you look at the waste, fraud and abuse, just
• 1:27:31
  Speaker 1: improper payments and improper payments are not waste, fraud and
• 1:27:35
  Speaker 1: or abuse. It's a whole different category. Two hundred billion
• 1:27:39
  Speaker 1: dollars a year in improper payments. This is what the
• 1:27:42
  Speaker 1: agencies are doing incorrectly. So no one is going in
• 1:27:46
  Speaker 1: and saying and trying to defraud the government. That's a
• 1:27:49
  Speaker 1: whole different category. Two hundred billion dollars every year. The
• 1:27:53
  Speaker 1: General Accounting Office defrauds. identifies this and they do nothing
• 1:27:59
  Speaker 1: about it. There's maybe one hearing and then they forget
• 1:28:03
  Speaker 1: about it.
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  Speaker 2: Well, that sounds to me like a job for artificial intelligence, Dave.
• 1:28:08
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 1:28:08
  Speaker 1: I mean, there's a lot of, yeah, absolutely. And actually
• 1:28:11
  Speaker 1: we've talked to some companies about this and they have
• 1:28:14
  Speaker 1: models where they can go in and use AI to
• 1:28:17
  Speaker 1: look at government and, you know, improve government efficiency. And
• 1:28:21
  Speaker 1: yet here we are, we're afraid and we want to
• 1:28:23
  Speaker 1: put guardrails and, You have Bernie Sanders saying that we
• 1:28:26
  Speaker 1: want to get the FDA involved in AI. And it's
• 1:28:30
  Speaker 1: just the Democrats are missing an opportunity here. And of course,
• 1:28:35
  Speaker 1: they always do, right? What do they say? Clutch defeat
• 1:28:39
  Speaker 1: out of the jaws of victory.
• 1:28:40
  Speaker 2: You know, snatching. It's like the Cincinnati Bengals in most cases. Yes.
• 1:28:45
  Speaker 2: Snatching defeat from the jaws of victory.
• 1:28:47
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:28:47
  Speaker 1: Dave against Tampa Bay, which I was happy about. I'm
• 1:28:50
  Speaker 1: glad they beat Tampa Bay.
• 1:28:53
  Speaker 2: Well, we can end on a smile. Dave Williams, Taxpayer
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  Speaker 2: Protection Alliance online again at protecting taxpayers dot org. Dave,
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  Speaker 2: I'll look forward to having a discussion with you soon
• 1:29:02
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• 1:29:06
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• 1:29:08
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  Speaker 13: Good morning, sir.
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  Speaker 19: I just kind of wanted to piggyback off your tax
• 1:29:49
  Speaker 19: talk there for a minute.
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  Speaker 13: Sure.
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  Speaker 19: I think the argument isn't made correctly about taxes and
• 1:29:54
  Speaker 19: the fact that income tax wholly is just unethical and
• 1:29:59
  Speaker 19: immoral because not every job and occupation is equal.
• 1:30:03
  Speaker 2: That is true.
• 1:30:05
  Speaker 19: What I do for a job is very dangerous, and
• 1:30:08
  Speaker 19: it's not equivalent to somebody that works at a gas
• 1:30:11
  Speaker 19: station or a barista. And I think the argument needs
• 1:30:14
  Speaker 19: to be made that a fair tax is, say, three
• 1:30:19
  Speaker 19: levels of sales tax. You have a federal sales tax,
• 1:30:22
  Speaker 19: a state sales tax, and a local sales tax.
• 1:30:25
  Speaker 2: Use tax.
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  Speaker 19: That way everybody's actually paying their fair share because even
• 1:30:29
  Speaker 19: people that work under the table, whether it be people
• 1:30:32
  Speaker 19: that work under the table in construction, illegal people, drug dealers,
• 1:30:39
  Speaker 19: sex workers, scrappers, anybody that works in cash. Everybody buys groceries.
• 1:30:46
  Speaker 19: Everybody buys things. And someone says to myself, I drive
• 1:30:50
  Speaker 19: a modest car. People that buy the Mercedes, the BMWs,
• 1:30:54
  Speaker 19: you're going to pay more on sales tax. And that way,
• 1:30:58
  Speaker 19: everybody pays their fair share because then you get to
• 1:31:00
  Speaker 19: live your life. You get to give the government money
• 1:31:03
  Speaker 19: instead of the government taking money from you. You choose
• 1:31:06
  Speaker 19: to give what you want to give to live the
• 1:31:07
  Speaker 19: lifestyle that you want to live. It's all in choices.
• 1:31:10
  Speaker 2: Exactly. That's why I'm in favor of use taxes. You
• 1:31:12
  Speaker 2: mentioned the car, and I'm glad you did, because what
• 1:31:14
  Speaker 2: is the greatest illustration of a use tax? If you
• 1:31:17
  Speaker 2: drive on the roads, or at least before EVs came along,
• 1:31:19
  Speaker 2: you had to buy gasoline, and therefore you were paying
• 1:31:22
  Speaker 2: for the roads, because there's always a gasoline tax that's
• 1:31:25
  Speaker 2: supposed to go to service and keep the roads paved,
• 1:31:27
  Speaker 2: although the city of Cincinnati doesn't pay attention to that.
• 1:31:29
  Speaker 2: But anyway, you got gas tax.
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  Speaker 19: No, that's been a thing for me for a while,
• 1:31:33
  Speaker 19: because the city of Cincinnati was giving free parking to
• 1:31:36
  Speaker 19: Tesla owners and EV owners for a while, and so then...
• 1:31:39
  Speaker 19: They're getting free parking and they're not, they're not paying
• 1:31:41
  Speaker 19: to use the roads. So then it's on the backs
• 1:31:44
  Speaker 19: of everybody else. I mean, I had a 2005 Toyota Corolla.
• 1:31:48
  Speaker 19: I drove to the wheel fell off and at 218,000 miles,
• 1:31:52
  Speaker 19: it was still getting 32 miles a gallon. See, you know,
• 1:31:55
  Speaker 19: it's like, but I was still paying to use the road.
• 1:31:58
  Speaker 2: You were. That's a good reason to keep a car
• 1:32:00
  Speaker 2: to service it regularly. It will keep running and running
• 1:32:04
  Speaker 2: and running. And you don't have to go out and
• 1:32:05
  Speaker 2: buy one of these new fangled vehicles. whether or not
• 1:32:08
  Speaker 2: it has an AM radio. Right, Adam? Thanks for the call.
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  Speaker 10: Yeah, I wanted to talk real quick about tariffs and
• 1:33:08
  Speaker 10: income taxes, business taxes.
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  Speaker 8: A couple gripes I.
• 1:33:11
  Speaker 4: Have is, obviously, number one, how long did.
• 1:33:15
  Speaker 10: Our country go, 150 years or so, without income taxes
• 1:33:18
  Speaker 10: and business taxes?
• 1:33:19
  Speaker 17: True.
• 1:33:20
  Speaker 10: Funding the country, funding wars, military, was strictly with tariffs. Now,
• 1:33:24
  Speaker 10: we could talk about the problem with tariffs and how
• 1:33:29
  Speaker 10: costs can go up with the cost of tariffs, but
• 1:33:31
  Speaker 10: my big gripe is the main party... that's against these tariffs,
• 1:33:35
  Speaker 10: which historically, of course, are short-term and very flexible and
• 1:33:40
  Speaker 10: can go in and out, is the same party that
• 1:33:43
  Speaker 10: wants to tax businesses, which tend to be more permanent
• 1:33:48
  Speaker 10: and obviously cause less job creation. And how hard is
• 1:33:53
  Speaker 10: it after these income taxes and business taxes take place,
• 1:33:56
  Speaker 10: how hard was it for the Republican Party or Trump
• 1:34:00
  Speaker 10: to try to undo those taxes. It's a lot easier
• 1:34:03
  Speaker 10: to get rid of tariffs than it is to get
• 1:34:04
  Speaker 10: rid of these taxes. You talk about tariffs hurting job creation.
• 1:34:08
  Speaker 10: Let's talk about how hard it is to create businesses
• 1:34:11
  Speaker 10: when you have a high income tax and high business tax.
• 1:34:15
  Speaker 2: It's a great point, man. And the idea is that
• 1:34:18
  Speaker 2: at least when you're talking about tariffs, as Trump illustrated,
• 1:34:22
  Speaker 2: and what he did was the court initially determined he
• 1:34:24
  Speaker 2: couldn't do beyond his power, but They give you negotiation
• 1:34:28
  Speaker 2: power with the foreign countries who are levying tariffs on
• 1:34:31
  Speaker 2: U.S.-produced goods. Like, wait a second. Why are you penalizing America?
• 1:34:35
  Speaker 2: You guys have a demand for this product. You just
• 1:34:36
  Speaker 2: want to pad your own country's tax revenue by imposing
• 1:34:40
  Speaker 2: tariffs on us. Well, you know what? We're going to
• 1:34:42
  Speaker 2: do the same thing to you. And we'll get rid
• 1:34:44
  Speaker 2: of our tariffs when you get rid of yours. That's
• 1:34:46
  Speaker 2: what we want, a level playing field. There doesn't seem
• 1:34:48
  Speaker 2: to be anything wrong with that. Income taxes?
• 1:34:51
  Speaker 9: No, absolutely not.
• 1:34:52
  Speaker 2: Income taxes just kneecap the U.S. businesses and, I guess,
• 1:34:58
  Speaker 2: pose a competitive disadvantage to other countries that don't maybe
• 1:35:01
  Speaker 2: have as onerous an income tax on their businesses. Good point, Mark.
• 1:35:05
  Speaker 2: I appreciate you calling in and making it. And thank
• 1:35:07
  Speaker 2: you very much for tuning into the program all these years.
• 1:35:09
  Speaker 2: That's really, really nice of you. Andy, welcome, man. You're on.
• 1:35:12
  Speaker 2: Good to hear from you.
• 1:35:14
  Speaker 20: Yes, I'm calling about the road tax.
• 1:35:17
  Speaker 10: Yeah.
• 1:35:18
  Speaker 20: So back in the 1950s, they did a study where
• 1:35:23
  Speaker 20: they determined the degree of road wear based on vehicle weight.
• 1:35:29
  Speaker 20: And they determined that the wear to the roads and
• 1:35:32
  Speaker 20: the damage to the roads was proportional to the weight
• 1:35:36
  Speaker 20: of the vehicle raised to the fourth power. What that
• 1:35:41
  Speaker 20: essentially means is that.
• 1:35:43
  Speaker 2: Trucks tear up the roads more than your average pedestrian automobile. 99%. So, therefore.
• 1:35:50
  Speaker 20: Trucks do 99% of the damage to the roads.
• 1:35:53
  Speaker 2: Therefore, electric vehicles, which weigh a whole hell of a
• 1:35:56
  Speaker 2: lot more than regular internal combustion engine cars, they eat
• 1:36:01
  Speaker 2: up the roads quicker than regular cars, too, don't they, Andy?
• 1:36:05
  Speaker 20: In a sense, but trucks do 99% of the damage,
• 1:36:09
  Speaker 20: and so, essentially, the difference between 99% and 100% is
• 1:36:12
  Speaker 20: just that 1%.
• 1:36:12
  Speaker 6: True.
• 1:36:13
  Speaker 20: So, regardless, of whether or not electric vehicles do more damage,
• 1:36:22
  Speaker 20: trucks should be carrying at least 99% of the tax.
• 1:36:27
  Speaker 2: You know, it's a fair argument. I guess the only
• 1:36:31
  Speaker 2: thing I'd have to observe is what might that do
• 1:36:34
  Speaker 2: to the price of groceries and goods and everything else
• 1:36:36
  Speaker 2: that's delivered by semi-tractor trailers in this country. It's not
• 1:36:39
  Speaker 2: bad enough we've got $ 6. 50 diesel. If they're going to
• 1:36:42
  Speaker 2: be showing a larger tax burden by filling up the
• 1:36:45
  Speaker 2: diesel tank, I don't know. But then there are diesel automobiles, too.
• 1:36:49
  Speaker 2: So if you're just filling up on the diesel and
• 1:36:51
  Speaker 2: there's a higher tax on diesel because that's what runs trucks,
• 1:36:54
  Speaker 2: I don't know how you work that out logistically. But
• 1:36:56
  Speaker 2: then again, you're the first person to bring it up
• 1:36:58
  Speaker 2: to my attention along those lines.
• 1:37:01
  Speaker 20: Fair enough. I think the big solution would be that
• 1:37:05
  Speaker 20: we'd probably see a lot of the Amazon trucks go away.
• 1:37:08
  Speaker 20: That is that people would not be getting two-day shipping
• 1:37:12
  Speaker 20: for free.
• 1:37:15
  Speaker 2: Perfect timing, Andy, because what are they going to start
• 1:37:18
  Speaker 2: delivering our packages with over at Amazon that they've unfolded
• 1:37:24
  Speaker 2: and started doing in multiple cities around this country?
• 1:37:26
  Speaker 9: Trying to do drones.
• 1:37:26
  Speaker 11: Drones.
• 1:37:28
  Speaker 2: No road damage at all. Just a sea of drones
• 1:37:32
  Speaker 2: flying all around your house every single damn day. Good point, Andy.
• 1:37:36
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• 1:37:50
  Speaker 2: among his storied career in, well, broadcasting, generally speaking, he
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  Speaker 2: I think you've been on my program more than any
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  Speaker 2: other guest. I've talked to you about maybe 10 or
• 1:38:02
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• 1:38:04
  Speaker 2: each and every one of them, and today we're talking
• 1:38:06
  Speaker 2: about your brand-new book. Fortunately, you got an advance copy
• 1:38:08
  Speaker 2: of it. confronting America, what has to change. Welcome back,
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  Speaker 2: Bill O'Reilly.
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  Speaker 4: Brian, how you been? Thanks for having me on.
• 1:38:15
  Speaker 2: Always a pleasure, my friend. I've been really good, and
• 1:38:17
  Speaker 2: I plowed through your book in virtually no time. It's
• 1:38:20
  Speaker 2: a real page turn, as are all of your books,
• 1:38:22
  Speaker 2: and one thing I learned I have to observe out
• 1:38:24
  Speaker 2: of the bat or off out of the gate I
• 1:38:26
  Speaker 2: guess you're a bit of a troubling child to your
• 1:38:29
  Speaker 2: parents you reference your your headache you were for your
• 1:38:32
  Speaker 2: mom and dad in the book multiple times yeah.
• 1:38:36
  Speaker 4: I wasn't a kid of the year that's for sure
• 1:38:39
  Speaker 4: yeah I wasn't malicious though it was kind of like
• 1:38:43
  Speaker 4: Dennis the Menace you know I doing stuff and had
• 1:38:48
  Speaker 4: a lot of energy.
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  Speaker 2: Good. Precocious.
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  Speaker 4: That turned into a good career. But my parents were
• 1:39:01
  Speaker 4: World War II people. They had an ethic and a
• 1:39:06
  Speaker 4: way to live. And I point it out because we
• 1:39:10
  Speaker 4: need to get back to some of that.
• 1:39:11
  Speaker 2: Amen to that. And it came through loud and clear.
• 1:39:14
  Speaker 2: And the reason I know about Bill and his precocious
• 1:39:18
  Speaker 2: childhood years because he uses, and you correct me if
• 1:39:20
  Speaker 2: I'm wrong, I walked away from this book thinking maybe
• 1:39:23
  Speaker 2: Bill decided he wanted to write an autobiography about his
• 1:39:26
  Speaker 2: wildly successful career, which you talk about throughout the book.
• 1:39:30
  Speaker 2: But in between a talk about your career, the people
• 1:39:32
  Speaker 2: you interact with, that serves as a wonderful springboard for
• 1:39:35
  Speaker 2: you to bring in historical references to the way things
• 1:39:37
  Speaker 2: were in the past and your observations about historical figures.
• 1:39:41
  Speaker 2: And then draw a parallel and conclusion about modern society
• 1:39:45
  Speaker 2: and the downward slide we seem to be facing here
• 1:39:48
  Speaker 2: in the United States of America. So it all works
• 1:39:49
  Speaker 2: out really well.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I call it eyewitness history.
• 1:39:55
  Speaker 16: I've been in 90 countries, more than 50 years in
• 1:39:59
  Speaker 16: this business, this journalism business. And, you know, it's inducing
• 1:40:04
  Speaker 16: problems here in America. And I just took what I
• 1:40:09
  Speaker 16: have seen and said, look, there is a problem, and
• 1:40:15
  Speaker 16: we can solve it. All problems have solutions, and this is.
• 1:40:20
  Speaker 4: The way to do it. And some people like the solutions.
• 1:40:25
  Speaker 4: Some people don't like them. It depends on your point
• 1:40:28
  Speaker 4: of view.
• 1:40:29
  Speaker 2: Well, I guess the biggest problem I have faced lately,
• 1:40:32
  Speaker 2: and I've been in a real terror lately about the
• 1:40:34
  Speaker 2: education system, the education system in the United States, most
• 1:40:37
  Speaker 2: notably the public education, is failing our children. I just
• 1:40:41
  Speaker 2: view it as an indoctrination camp. But you've got that failure,
• 1:40:45
  Speaker 2: broadly speaking, coupled with the fewer and fewer people have
• 1:40:48
  Speaker 2: any religious connection. You even write in your book, you know,
• 1:40:51
  Speaker 2: pagans are on the rise and talk about why that's
• 1:40:53
  Speaker 2: so troubling. But all of this seems to relate to
• 1:40:56
  Speaker 2: the family, which you also break down and talk about
• 1:40:59
  Speaker 2: the family structure and the importance of it without a
• 1:41:01
  Speaker 2: strong family structure, a support group, people teaching their young
• 1:41:05
  Speaker 2: people about religion, ethics, morals, and all that, and also
• 1:41:08
  Speaker 2: helping them through the education process. That, to me, is
• 1:41:11
  Speaker 2: the heart of our problems in America, the destruction of
• 1:41:14
  Speaker 2: the nuclear family. Your reaction to that conclusion, sir?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, and the parents don't do it because they're on
• 1:41:20
  Speaker 4: the phone all the time. I mean, we had in Levittown,
• 1:41:25
  Speaker 4: where I grew up in New York, you had dinner
• 1:41:30
  Speaker 4: with your folks every night. And we sat there and
• 1:41:36
  Speaker 4: listened to my father and mother talk about the country.
• 1:41:42
  Speaker 4: Occasionally you'd get in there, you know, you'd become part
• 1:41:47
  Speaker 4: of the discussion. But now everybody's solo. Everybody's got the phone.
• 1:41:53
  Speaker 4: They're all running around doing things that I'm not sure
• 1:41:57
  Speaker 4: they're so constructive anymore. So kids are kind of like
• 1:42:02
  Speaker 4: wandering around. They don't really know what their obligation is
• 1:42:08
  Speaker 4: as a patriot to their country. And you're finding that
• 1:42:13
  Speaker 4: we are a divided country now, tribalism. And kids don't
• 1:42:18
  Speaker 4: know very much. They simply don't know. And don't get
• 1:42:21
  Speaker 4: me started on the school. I taught high school for
• 1:42:24
  Speaker 4: a couple of years. I have some stories about my teaching.
• 1:42:27
  Speaker 7: Experience in the book.
• 1:42:30
  Speaker 4: In confronting America. And again, it's the teachers are looking
• 1:42:36
  Speaker 4: at their watch. Can I go home now? It is not.
• 1:42:40
  Speaker 4: They're not engaged. And the and the students get spit
• 1:42:45
  Speaker 4: out there after high school. And a lot of them
• 1:42:48
  Speaker 4: don't know anything. They don't know anything.
• 1:42:52
  Speaker 2: Well, As evidenced by the fact that college education is
• 1:42:55
  Speaker 2: now dedicated to remedial teaching for kids who didn't pay
• 1:42:58
  Speaker 2: attention in K-12, that they were able to get into
• 1:43:01
  Speaker 2: college and can't do basic K-12 level mathematics, for example,
• 1:43:06
  Speaker 2: and are going to spend $ 500 or $ 1, 000 or whatever
• 1:43:08
  Speaker 2: a credit hour in college to make up. That's insanity, Bill.
• 1:43:11
  Speaker 2: That's just plain insanity. And it's another illustration of the
• 1:43:14
  Speaker 2: failure of the modern education system.
• 1:43:16
  Speaker 4: Yeah, and again, the colleges are going broke. And they're
• 1:43:20
  Speaker 4: admitting people that aren't qualified. And they're trying to catch up,
• 1:43:26
  Speaker 4: but many of them don't. The root of the problem
• 1:43:31
  Speaker 4: is this. We live in a competitive society. And you
• 1:43:36
  Speaker 4: know that. I mean, to get where you've been and
• 1:43:39
  Speaker 4: to be successful— You got to suffer. I mean, I
• 1:43:42
  Speaker 4: got kids in the workplace now. So whining, you know,
• 1:43:47
  Speaker 4: I said, hey, this is hard. You're competing. This is capitalism.
• 1:43:53
  Speaker 4: And the other side, I go, oh, we don't want that.
• 1:43:55
  Speaker 4: You just give me stuff. You know, I just want it.
• 1:43:59
  Speaker 4: And that's the radical progressive movement. Government will take care
• 1:44:05
  Speaker 4: of you. The government's never going to take care of you.
• 1:44:07
  Speaker 4: I mean, that's just insane. And every kid should know
• 1:44:11
  Speaker 4: that in school. You can survive on a safety net basis,
• 1:44:16
  Speaker 4: but if you want to prosper in a capitalist society,
• 1:44:20
  Speaker 4: you're going to have to work hard and learn stuff
• 1:44:24
  Speaker 4: and get a skill. And right around now, we don't
• 1:44:29
  Speaker 4: have that ethic. And so, so many Americans, oh, I
• 1:44:33
  Speaker 4: can't buy a house.
• 1:44:34
  Speaker 6: I can't buy a car.
• 1:44:35
  Speaker 4: I can't do this. I can't do that.
• 1:44:36
  Speaker 6: So, well, give me it.
• 1:44:38
  Speaker 4: I want it. And boy, that just leads to more problems.
• 1:44:42
  Speaker 2: It does. And that's where platforms like the Democratic Socialists
• 1:44:46
  Speaker 2: of America take off because they play on our insecurities
• 1:44:50
  Speaker 2: or they create them and blow them up to make
• 1:44:52
  Speaker 2: us all really insecure and demand some sort of government solution.
• 1:44:56
  Speaker 2: But they also, and you write about this, and you
• 1:44:58
  Speaker 2: used Bezos as a great springboard to illustrate class warfare.
• 1:45:02
  Speaker 2: He's got, what, eight multi-billion dollar, gazillion dollar homes, a
• 1:45:05
  Speaker 2: half a billion dollar yacht and all this, and he's
• 1:45:08
  Speaker 2: one of the wealthiest people in the country. The left
• 1:45:10
  Speaker 2: loves to rely and hang their hat on people like
• 1:45:13
  Speaker 2: that to play up this whole it's not fair, they're
• 1:45:16
  Speaker 2: not paying their fair share thing. In other words, to
• 1:45:18
  Speaker 2: justify taking money out of one person's pocket and putting
• 1:45:21
  Speaker 2: it in their own.
• 1:45:23
  Speaker 4: Yeah, and who decides that? Bernie Sanders? I mean, you know,
• 1:45:27
  Speaker 4: come on. I don't want Bernie anywhere near my assets
• 1:45:31
  Speaker 4: because he's going to take them. And so... When you
• 1:45:37
  Speaker 4: open Confronting America, What Hasn't Changed, when you open a book,
• 1:45:43
  Speaker 4: you see the problems that we have. You see them.
• 1:45:45
  Speaker 4: I list them. And then you don't have to read
• 1:45:49
  Speaker 4: it all the way through in the sense that go
• 1:45:51
  Speaker 4: to the problem that's bothering you, and then you'll have
• 1:45:56
  Speaker 4: a solution to that problem. But again, the solution isn't easy.
• 1:46:02
  Speaker 4: It's not a magic wand. So if you're not making
• 1:46:06
  Speaker 4: any money, well, you're going to have to go to
• 1:46:09
  Speaker 4: a community college or learn a skill, apply yourself so
• 1:46:14
  Speaker 4: that you have value in the marketplace, in the workplace.
• 1:46:20
  Speaker 4: And a lot of people go, I don't want to
• 1:46:21
  Speaker 4: do that because it cuts into my phone time. So,
• 1:46:26
  Speaker 4: you know, no such thing as a free lunch. Boy,
• 1:46:30
  Speaker 4: we're leading the league in free lunches now, at least
• 1:46:33
  Speaker 4: the promise of them. And that's really deleterious. It doesn't
• 1:46:39
  Speaker 4: bode well. And then we have politicians who just exploit
• 1:46:42
  Speaker 4: the hell out of these things, and that drives me nuts.
• 1:46:45
  Speaker 2: Bill O'Reilly, author of Confronting America, What Has to Change.
• 1:46:49
  Speaker 2: Bill O'Reilly, something you have had to deal with in
• 1:46:51
  Speaker 2: your career, and this is, again, a great reason why
• 1:46:53
  Speaker 2: you use your career as an illustration. You have suffered
• 1:46:56
  Speaker 2: a The slings and arrows of all kinds of folks
• 1:46:59
  Speaker 2: in the media, outside the media, criticize you for your opinions,
• 1:47:02
  Speaker 2: and you stood up to them, and you never, ever wavered.
• 1:47:05
  Speaker 2: You never backed down. You were never rude about it,
• 1:47:07
  Speaker 2: but you were affirming your convictions in spite of the
• 1:47:10
  Speaker 2: fact that you, in essence, I'll just use the word
• 1:47:12
  Speaker 2: doxxed or otherwise criticized out loud, fired in some cases
• 1:47:16
  Speaker 2: over your viewpoints. How do you get America? In your
• 1:47:19
  Speaker 2: chapter called The Destroyers, you address this concept. How do
• 1:47:22
  Speaker 2: you get regular everyday Americans to stand up? Because the
• 1:47:25
  Speaker 2: answer to insanity like from the DSA and Bernie Sanders
• 1:47:28
  Speaker 2: is more speech, debate, discussion. People are unwilling to go
• 1:47:32
  Speaker 2: into that anymore because they're afraid of online criticisms or
• 1:47:36
  Speaker 2: someone showing up at their front door or doing something
• 1:47:38
  Speaker 2: maybe even criminal to them because it happens every day.
• 1:47:41
  Speaker 2: Can you give some advice to the people out in
• 1:47:43
  Speaker 2: the audience who have a firm conviction who otherwise would
• 1:47:46
  Speaker 2: say something and could benefit from the process of exchange
• 1:47:49
  Speaker 2: but won't do it because of fear?
• 1:47:53
  Speaker 4: It's like going to the Cincinnati Bengals camp, the preseason camp.
• 1:47:59
  Speaker 4: You've got to build yourself up. And I have a
• 1:48:07
  Speaker 4: story in the book about employment working. You work for
• 1:48:11
  Speaker 4: a big company, and I don't anymore. I run my
• 1:48:13
  Speaker 4: own companies. But it took me a long time to
• 1:48:16
  Speaker 4: get there because I had to assemble the assets there.
• 1:48:20
  Speaker 9: Do it.
• 1:48:21
  Speaker 4: But if you're working for somebody, a big company or
• 1:48:24
  Speaker 4: something like that, and if you're in a position like
• 1:48:29
  Speaker 4: I've been for more than 50 years where you're giving
• 1:48:32
  Speaker 4: your opinion, you've got to count on the fact that
• 1:48:35
  Speaker 4: some people are not going to like you. And you
• 1:48:40
  Speaker 4: have to almost steel yourself to that. And I've been
• 1:48:44
  Speaker 4: able to do it, not easy, but as they say
• 1:48:48
  Speaker 4: in The Godfather, this is the business we've chosen. And
• 1:48:52
  Speaker 4: it took me a while, Brian, to say, all right,
• 1:48:57
  Speaker 4: obviously I'm going to protect myself, and I have very
• 1:49:00
  Speaker 4: good lawyers and all that, but.
• 1:49:05
  Speaker 4: I know I'm going to get whacked. So if you
• 1:49:07
  Speaker 4: go to this Cincinnati Bengals camp, you're going to get tackled.
• 1:49:11
  Speaker 4: They're going to knock you down. I got to get up.
• 1:49:15
  Speaker 4: And that in America is the most important thing in
• 1:49:21
  Speaker 4: order to be successful. You don't let the SOBs win.
• 1:49:27
  Speaker 4: You get up and then you go forward. And it's
• 1:49:30
  Speaker 4: a cliche, but it's true. And, again, capitalism is not easy,
• 1:49:38
  Speaker 4: but it does give you the potential to live in
• 1:49:42
  Speaker 4: a nice house and to have a good life and
• 1:49:44
  Speaker 4: to protect you and your family against evil. But you're
• 1:49:49
  Speaker 4: going to have to work for that. I don't understand
• 1:49:52
  Speaker 4: the socialism, communism. Every country that's tried it— and this is
• 1:49:57
  Speaker 4: a cliche— has failed. Because the government cannot live your life
• 1:50:03
  Speaker 4: for you. And we, in the book, I name names.
• 1:50:08
  Speaker 4: There's no anonymous person. Everybody I dealt with is named.
• 1:50:13
  Speaker 4: And I had an interesting discussion with President Obama one time.
• 1:50:16
  Speaker 4: It was an off-the-air discussion. I interviewed him three times
• 1:50:19
  Speaker 4: on the air. And he was telling me, listen, don't
• 1:50:22
  Speaker 4: be whining about paying higher taxes. We're going to pay
• 1:50:25
  Speaker 4: an enormous amount of taxes living in New York. Because
• 1:50:29
  Speaker 4: you wouldn't be successful without the government. And he really
• 1:50:33
  Speaker 4: believed it. And I looked at him and I said,
• 1:50:35
  Speaker 4: the government never did anything to make me successful.
• 1:50:40
  Speaker 9: I did it.
• 1:50:42
  Speaker 4: Now, the structure was there. I had roads that I
• 1:50:45
  Speaker 4: could get to work. And I paid taxes. But the
• 1:50:49
  Speaker 4: government didn't help me. It was me and my training
• 1:50:54
  Speaker 4: and my education and my background and my family. That's
• 1:50:58
  Speaker 4: what provided the springboard to success. So the president and
• 1:51:02
  Speaker 4: I had a lively disagreement on that issue. And now
• 1:51:06
  Speaker 4: we're seeing that play out in all kinds of ways
• 1:51:10
  Speaker 4: in America.
• 1:51:11
  Speaker 2: Well, and another chap that I dearly love, Fort Worth
• 1:51:14
  Speaker 2: Park Company, Bill O'Reilly, bubble people, people hiding. And you
• 1:51:18
  Speaker 2: even point out the Constitution gives you the right to
• 1:51:20
  Speaker 2: be a moron. And all the problems we're confronted by,
• 1:51:23
  Speaker 2: people just simply don't understand politics. They don't pay attention
• 1:51:26
  Speaker 2: to it. They can't even name the branches of government.
• 1:51:28
  Speaker 2: Bill O'Reilly, that's another illustration of the failure of the
• 1:51:31
  Speaker 2: American education system. It's frightening to read. It's a cold-water
• 1:51:37
  Speaker 2: dose of reality. You bring ideas and thoughts about how
• 1:51:40
  Speaker 2: to right the ship. Bill O'Reilly, Confronting America, What Has
• 1:51:43
  Speaker 2: to Change. Thank you for writing the book, sir, and
• 1:51:45
  Speaker 2: spending time with my listeners and me this morning. I
• 1:51:47
  Speaker 2: just really enjoyed it. We're going to make it easy
• 1:51:48
  Speaker 2: to get them a copy because we put it on
• 1:51:49
  Speaker 2: my blog page. A link to buy the book.
• 1:51:53
  Speaker 4: Listen, Brian, it's always a pleasure to talk with you,
• 1:51:55
  Speaker 4: and I wish you the best going forward. And you're
• 1:51:59
  Speaker 4: an example of somebody who applied himself and made a success. And,
• 1:52:05
  Speaker 4: you know, so I don't even mind talking to the slackers,
• 1:52:10
  Speaker 4: but I'm glad you liked the book.
• 1:52:13
  Speaker 11: I did.
• 1:52:13
  Speaker 2: You know, Bill O'Reilly, I will give my mom and
• 1:52:17
  Speaker 2: dad credit for my current success. They insisted I get
• 1:52:20
  Speaker 2: an education. They cared about my value system. They cared
• 1:52:22
  Speaker 2: about my upbringing. They were there for me. Bill O'Reilly,
• 1:52:26
  Speaker 2: God bless you, sir. I'll look forward to the next book.
• 1:52:28
  Speaker 2: I know you're probably already writing one, man, and it's
• 1:52:30
  Speaker 2: going to be another bestseller. 55KRC. iHeart. com. Take care, Bill. 820.
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  Speaker 16: 55KRC.
• 1:52:35
  Speaker 2: We're going to be able to have another offer. Jeff
• 1:52:37
  Speaker 2: Sherry is going to join the program. Books about his book,
• 1:52:40
  Speaker 2: Shots Fired on Redding Road. Don't go away. 55KRC. The KRC,
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  Speaker 2: the talk station. It is 828 at 55KRC, the talk station.
• 1:52:53
  Speaker 2: Brian Thomas here. Wishing everyone a very happy Friday Eve
• 1:52:55
  Speaker 2: and welcoming to the 55KRC morning show, Jeff Sherry. Jeff Sherry,
• 1:52:59
  Speaker 2: I understand, is a sensei homicide detective. At least back
• 1:53:02
  Speaker 2: in 2005 he was. He's going to talk all about that.
• 1:53:04
  Speaker 2: But he's also a distinguished martial arts instructor. Jeff, I
• 1:53:08
  Speaker 2: was checking out your biography on Amazon. Boy, don't mess
• 1:53:11
  Speaker 2: with Jeff Scherer. Jeff, welcome to the 55K RC Morning Show.
• 1:53:15
  Speaker 2: You're here to talk about your book, Shots Fired on
• 1:53:18
  Speaker 2: Redding Road, the Murder of Patrolman Donald Martin, and the
• 1:53:21
  Speaker 2: 44-Year Search for His Killer. Obviously a cold case. Jeff,
• 1:53:24
  Speaker 2: it's really a pleasure to have you on the program.
• 1:53:26
  Speaker 2: Local author he is.
• 1:53:27
  Speaker 5: I appreciate you having me on the show.
• 1:53:32
  Speaker 2: How long were you on the Cincinnati Police Department, Jeff?
• 1:53:35
  Speaker 5: About 26 years. Actually, I worked with your sister when
• 1:53:40
  Speaker 5: she was a sergeant in homicide when I first got transferred.
• 1:53:42
  Speaker 5: She was one of my sergeants.
• 1:53:44
  Speaker 2: Read my mind. That was the first question I was
• 1:53:46
  Speaker 2: going to ask you. She's been retired for several years now.
• 1:53:48
  Speaker 2: But on behalf of my listening audience, Jeff, I want
• 1:53:50
  Speaker 2: to thank you and all members of law enforcement for
• 1:53:53
  Speaker 2: your service to the community. Not an easy job, as
• 1:53:55
  Speaker 2: I learned a lot over the years with my sister
• 1:53:57
  Speaker 2: in law enforcement. And you know it as well. And
• 1:53:59
  Speaker 2: I have to imagine... One of the most frustrating or
• 1:54:02
  Speaker 2: more frustrating parts of the job of being a police
• 1:54:04
  Speaker 2: officer is not being able to solve a case. And
• 1:54:07
  Speaker 2: let's turn to the subject matter of your case, shots
• 1:54:09
  Speaker 2: fired on Redding Road, the murder of a Cincinnati police patrolman,
• 1:54:13
  Speaker 2: Donald Martin. How long did it take to finally figure
• 1:54:16
  Speaker 2: this one out, Jeff?
• 1:54:20
  Speaker 5: Well, the case was unsolved for 44 years when my partner,
• 1:54:23
  Speaker 5: Kirk Ballman, and I picked up the case. And we
• 1:54:26
  Speaker 5: kind of got the case because of where we sat
• 1:54:29
  Speaker 5: in the office. And we just kind of got unlucky,
• 1:54:33
  Speaker 5: I guess, in that regard. But once we got the case,
• 1:54:37
  Speaker 5: it took us about nine months to figure out who
• 1:54:40
  Speaker 5: the shooter actually was.
• 1:54:43
  Speaker 2: Well, I guess the question I have is it sounds like,
• 1:54:47
  Speaker 2: I suppose, in a day before DNA, it probably would
• 1:54:49
  Speaker 2: have been helpful back in the day that Officer Martin
• 1:54:52
  Speaker 2: was shot multiple times, apparently with his own service revolver.
• 1:54:55
  Speaker 2: There were witnesses who saw the gunman. police refound the
• 1:54:59
  Speaker 2: weapon and found some clothing they thought was discarded by
• 1:55:02
  Speaker 2: the killer and other evidence, but nothing ever became of it.
• 1:55:05
  Speaker 2: Do you have any reason why the case went dead
• 1:55:09
  Speaker 2: back around the time it happened in 1961? Yeah, there.
• 1:55:14
  Speaker 5: Was a couple different things that happened. They kind of
• 1:55:19
  Speaker 5: got onto a different suspect, a suspect by the name
• 1:55:23
  Speaker 5: of Frank Murph. And that came up because A couple
• 1:55:27
  Speaker 5: different reasons. One reason was that the shirt that was
• 1:55:31
  Speaker 5: found stuck in a trash can up on Dandridge Street
• 1:55:35
  Speaker 5: in Mount Auburn, it was sent off to a lab
• 1:55:37
  Speaker 5: and they found a black hair, what they termed back
• 1:55:42
  Speaker 5: then a Negroid hair, now African-American hair, in a pocket.
• 1:55:48
  Speaker 5: Along with that, about a month after Don Martin was killed,
• 1:55:52
  Speaker 5: Frank Murph was arrested over in District 2 for trying
• 1:55:55
  Speaker 5: to take a gun of a cop. Frank Murph was
• 1:55:58
  Speaker 5: also killed in Fort Wayne, Indiana for also trying to
• 1:56:04
  Speaker 5: take a gun from a cop. So based on those
• 1:56:08
  Speaker 5: three things, Frank Murph kind of became the, I guess,
• 1:56:12
  Speaker 5: unofficial suspect with the murder of Don Martin. When Kurt
• 1:56:17
  Speaker 5: and I opened up the case again, we put out
• 1:56:19
  Speaker 5: the words to talk to retired officers, and one of
• 1:56:22
  Speaker 5: the cops we talked to was a guy by the
• 1:56:24
  Speaker 5: name of Jerry Schimpf. Once we talked to Jerry, he
• 1:56:27
  Speaker 5: said he had developed the information of Walter Baker Walls
• 1:56:31
  Speaker 5: as a shooter.
• 1:56:34
  Speaker 2: Well, I guess detectives developed the lead on Walter Baker
• 1:56:38
  Speaker 2: Walls early on in the investigation, but I understand that
• 1:56:44
  Speaker 2: he was never prosecuted for it back around the original time.
• 1:56:46
  Speaker 2: How is it that he was identified early on and
• 1:56:48
  Speaker 2: he wasn't arrested for the crime back then?
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  Speaker 5: Jerry told us that... He was a detective back then.
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  Speaker 5: He was working at Juvenile Bureau. The Juvenile Bureau back
• 1:57:01
  Speaker 5: then dealt with child cases. He was also going to
• 1:57:07
  Speaker 5: law school at the same time. And he was coming
• 1:57:09
  Speaker 5: out of law school at night one time and saw
• 1:57:12
  Speaker 5: the brother of somebody he had a warrant on. That
• 1:57:15
  Speaker 5: person ducked into a restaurant downtown. So Jerry followed him
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  Speaker 5: into the restaurant and sat across the booth from him.
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  Speaker 5: Jerry says to the guy, where's your brother? The guy says, well,
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  Speaker 5: why don't you look under the table? Maybe I'm going
• 1:57:28
  Speaker 5: to shoot you. So Jerry says, well, why don't you
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  Speaker 5: look under the table? Guy looks under the table, and
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  Speaker 5: Jerry has his revolver pointed at him. Jerry says the
• 1:57:36
  Speaker 5: guy kind of looked up at him, kind of smiled, says, well,
• 1:57:39
  Speaker 5: how about if I tell you about a cop killing?
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  Speaker 5: So Jerry says this guy told him about Walter Baker
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  Speaker 5: Walls had been bragging about killing Don Martin and getting
• 1:57:49
  Speaker 5: away with it. So he went to Will Stagenhorst, who
• 1:57:52
  Speaker 5: was a detective at the time working the case, and
• 1:57:55
  Speaker 5: they both started to work the case together. They did
• 1:57:58
  Speaker 5: all kinds of stuff that developed Walter as a very
• 1:58:03
  Speaker 5: strong suspect, but there just wasn't enough to prosecute at
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  Speaker 5: the time. They took the witnesses up to the Ohio
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  Speaker 5: penitentiary where Walter Baker Walz was locked up. They kind
• 1:58:15
  Speaker 5: of did an unofficial lineup. All four of them said, well,
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  Speaker 5: that looks like the guy, but they weren't certain it
• 1:58:21
  Speaker 5: was because when they saw him, it was 3 o'clock
• 1:58:24
  Speaker 5: in the morning. They were on the way back to Dayton, Ohio.
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  Speaker 5: So They didn't really get a good look at him,
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  Speaker 5: but it was strong enough that they still continued with
• 1:58:32
  Speaker 5: Baker with Walz as a suspect.
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  Speaker 2: Well, I'll tell you what, I have to ask you this,
• 1:58:39
  Speaker 2: Jeff Scherer, because after 44 years, you, along with the
• 1:58:42
  Speaker 2: assistance of Kurt Baumann, were finally able to figure this
• 1:58:44
  Speaker 2: thing out. Interviewing basically the same people that interviewed around
• 1:58:47
  Speaker 2: the time. You got the detectives that were on the case, eyewitnesses.
• 1:58:50
  Speaker 2: You interviewed folks from the prison, I guess. I don't know,
• 1:58:53
  Speaker 2: it's his prison recollections. Are you critical of the early investigation?
• 1:58:59
  Speaker 2: Is this book intended to be a criticism of a
• 1:59:02
  Speaker 2: theory to follow through, or is it just simply a
• 1:59:04
  Speaker 2: matter of, well, these kind of things happen, but if
• 1:59:06
  Speaker 2: you keep working on it, you may end up getting
• 1:59:10
  Speaker 2: a positive result or actually solve the case. I guess
• 1:59:13
  Speaker 2: I'm just kind of curious your perception of the investigation
• 1:59:15
  Speaker 2: around 1961.
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  Speaker 5: They did everything they were supposed to do. It's just
• 1:59:22
  Speaker 5: an investigation. You know, it's not like it is on TV, right?
• 1:59:27
  Speaker 5: You have to have everything to fall into play. And
• 1:59:30
  Speaker 5: I kind of look at an investigation as kind of
• 1:59:33
  Speaker 5: the fingers on your hand. If you go in one direction,
• 1:59:36
  Speaker 5: that doesn't work. You've got to back out and go
• 1:59:38
  Speaker 5: in another direction. If that doesn't work, you go out
• 1:59:40
  Speaker 5: and go another direction. Sometimes you go in every direction
• 1:59:43
  Speaker 5: and you still don't come up with the answers that
• 1:59:45
  Speaker 5: you need to solve the case. And that's all this was.
• 1:59:49
  Speaker 5: They looked at every angle that they could. They did
• 1:59:52
  Speaker 5: everything they could. How Curt and I got lucky was
• 1:59:57
  Speaker 5: that Walt had died a couple months prior to us
• 2:00:01
  Speaker 5: getting this case. So family members were more willing to
• 2:00:05
  Speaker 5: talk to us than they were back in the day.
• 2:00:07
  Speaker 5: So one of the things that we did, I came
• 2:00:10
  Speaker 5: up with– we came up with a woman by the
• 2:00:13
  Speaker 5: name of Anna Dove. She was the daughter of Walter Waltz.
• 2:00:17
  Speaker 5: We went and found her, tracked her down, went to
• 2:00:20
  Speaker 5: her house, knocked on her door– I'd say, you know,
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  Speaker 5: I'm Detective Cher. This is Detective Ballmer with Cincinnati Homicide.
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  Speaker 5: She says, first out of her mouth, is this isn't
• 2:00:29
  Speaker 5: about my dad killing a cop, is it? So once
• 2:00:33
  Speaker 5: we hear that, we're like, ding, ding, ding. Yeah, that's
• 2:00:36
  Speaker 5: why we're here. So she started to tell us the
• 2:00:38
  Speaker 5: whole story about that was common knowledge within the Walsh family.
• 2:00:44
  Speaker 5: From her, we tracked down other family members. We did
• 2:00:46
  Speaker 5: all this stuff. And it just worked out for us.
• 2:00:49
  Speaker 5: We just, we got lucky because As I said, no
• 2:00:52
  Speaker 5: one was afraid of Walter anymore. He was dead and
• 2:00:55
  Speaker 5: they were more apt to talk to us. They tried
• 2:00:57
  Speaker 5: to talk to him back in 1961 and they just wouldn't,
• 2:01:01
  Speaker 5: they wouldn't talk because they were afraid of Walter.
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  Speaker 2: That answers the question. I was going to ask you
• 2:01:06
  Speaker 2: about the closely held family secrets, which were referenced in
• 2:01:08
  Speaker 2: the notes. And there's the answer to the question you
• 2:01:10
  Speaker 2: anticipated where I was going on that. So him dying
• 2:01:13
  Speaker 2: resulted in looser lips about the underlying facts, which led
• 2:01:16
  Speaker 2: you to be able to conclude that walls was responsible
• 2:01:18
  Speaker 2: for this man's murder. Um, it, Explain the value after
• 2:01:22
  Speaker 2: 44 years. A lot of people are dead and gone
• 2:01:25
  Speaker 2: that were related to this. I guess family members have
• 2:01:27
  Speaker 2: moved on and passed. What's the value of investing all
• 2:01:29
  Speaker 2: this time and effort in solving a case that's that old?
• 2:01:31
  Speaker 2: Is it simply to make a point? Is it the
• 2:01:33
  Speaker 2: value of solving the murder of a police officer, which,
• 2:01:37
  Speaker 2: of course, for morale of the Cincinnati Police Department, you
• 2:01:39
  Speaker 2: should never, ever stop looking. But why did you spend
• 2:01:43
  Speaker 2: so much time on this one? Aren't there a whole
• 2:01:45
  Speaker 2: lot of other cold cases out there?
• 2:01:49
  Speaker 5: Yeah, but as you said, and your sister confirmed it
• 2:01:52
  Speaker 5: as well, we take care of our.
• 2:01:54
  Speaker 9: Own, right?
• 2:01:54
  Speaker 5: I mean, we're the only ones who do this. So
• 2:01:58
  Speaker 5: when a cop is killed, it certainly disturbs the fabric
• 2:02:02
  Speaker 5: of society. And when it goes unsolved this long, that
• 2:02:06
  Speaker 5: disturbance keeps going, it keeps going, it keeps going. And
• 2:02:10
  Speaker 5: for Kurt and I, when Kurt said something– When we
• 2:02:15
  Speaker 5: pulled this jacket out from the case file, it's the
• 2:02:19
  Speaker 5: same jacket that we wear today. The shirt was the same.
• 2:02:24
  Speaker 5: The hat was the same. The tie was the same.
• 2:02:26
  Speaker 5: And the jacket that he wore was the same. So
• 2:02:28
  Speaker 5: it could have been me. It could have been Kurt.
• 2:02:31
  Speaker 5: It could have been any one of us. So I
• 2:02:33
  Speaker 5: would hope that if it had happened to me, somebody
• 2:02:37
  Speaker 5: would have been as diligent as Kurt and I were
• 2:02:40
  Speaker 5: to solve our killings. And that's what it was. It
• 2:02:43
  Speaker 5: was just taking care of one.
• 2:02:44
  Speaker 2: Of our own. That's great. I'm glad you did. I'm
• 2:02:46
  Speaker 2: glad you wrote the book about it. Is this case
• 2:02:48
  Speaker 2: or is, is your book and all the details and
• 2:02:50
  Speaker 2: facts over resolving this 1961 murder of, uh, Donald Martin?
• 2:02:54
  Speaker 2: Is it illustrative of a, is there, is there such
• 2:02:56
  Speaker 2: a thing I might ask more properly as a typical
• 2:03:00
  Speaker 2: cold case? I mean, I know John Newsome. I'm sure
• 2:03:02
  Speaker 2: you remember John Newsome when he was on the police department.
• 2:03:04
  Speaker 2: He used to work at Warren County Sheriff's office. He
• 2:03:06
  Speaker 2: was responsible for cold cases and he's got some fascinating
• 2:03:08
  Speaker 2: stories about him. But, um, I guess, is this a
• 2:03:12
  Speaker 2: typical cold case? I mean, new, fresh eyes after a
• 2:03:15
  Speaker 2: long period of time can serve a lot to help
• 2:03:17
  Speaker 2: solving a crime just by having a different perspective. But
• 2:03:21
  Speaker 2: what's your take on the idea of a cold case
• 2:03:23
  Speaker 2: being typical or not?
• 2:03:26
  Speaker 5: No case is typical, whether it's a fresh killing or
• 2:03:28
  Speaker 5: an old killing. Every case is different. That's what kind
• 2:03:32
  Speaker 5: of makes homicide investigations and police work in general. Every
• 2:03:36
  Speaker 5: day is different. Every case is different. Every way you
• 2:03:38
  Speaker 5: look at a case is different. So there is no
• 2:03:41
  Speaker 5: typical cold case. There's no typical hot case. It's just,
• 2:03:45
  Speaker 5: I guess it's just because we just looked at it
• 2:03:49
  Speaker 5: from a different angle. And kind of what I looked
• 2:03:52
  Speaker 5: at it is, I kind of look at it, I
• 2:03:56
  Speaker 5: say we were lazy. And why I say we were
• 2:03:58
  Speaker 5: lazy is when we looked through the case file, there
• 2:04:01
  Speaker 5: was five boxes of junk. Everything had been dumped in
• 2:04:05
  Speaker 5: You know, from 44 years, people didn't put stuff back.
• 2:04:08
  Speaker 5: It just dumped into the case files. We couldn't make
• 2:04:10
  Speaker 5: heads or tails of this case. So we didn't really
• 2:04:15
  Speaker 5: want to look through it extensively. So that's why we
• 2:04:17
  Speaker 5: put the word out for retired cops. So in essence,
• 2:04:20
  Speaker 5: I guess our laziness is kind of what led us
• 2:04:22
  Speaker 5: to Jerry Schimpf. And God rest his soul, I dedicated
• 2:04:26
  Speaker 5: the book to Jerry because without Jerry, we would never
• 2:04:29
  Speaker 5: have found Walter Walz in the case file. There was
• 2:04:31
  Speaker 5: nothing in there about Walter Baker Walz. One of the things, too,
• 2:04:35
  Speaker 5: Will Stegenhorst, he was very protective of his cases. So
• 2:04:38
  Speaker 5: his case file in this, he took home. I talked
• 2:04:41
  Speaker 5: to his son, Ron, and Ron said, yeah, his dad
• 2:04:44
  Speaker 5: had all this stuff at home. When he passed, they
• 2:04:46
  Speaker 5: tried to get ahold of the police department to see
• 2:04:49
  Speaker 5: if the police department wanted him. They couldn't get ahold
• 2:04:51
  Speaker 5: of him, so they threw the case files away. So,
• 2:04:56
  Speaker 5: like I said, pure laziness on my part, I think,
• 2:04:59
  Speaker 5: is what actually solved the case.
• 2:05:01
  Speaker 2: Well, I can't say you're lazy. It's a wonderful outcome.
• 2:05:03
  Speaker 2: Finally figured it out after all these years and, of course,
• 2:05:06
  Speaker 2: looking out for your own as officers do, and God
• 2:05:08
  Speaker 2: bless you for it. Shots fired on Redding Road, the
• 2:05:11
  Speaker 2: murder of patrolman Donald Martin and the 44-year search for
• 2:05:13
  Speaker 2: his killer. Jeffrey Scherer, it has been a pleasure having
• 2:05:15
  Speaker 2: you on the morning show, and I want to thank
• 2:05:16
  Speaker 2: you again for your service to our community, and I
• 2:05:19
  Speaker 2: appreciate you writing the book, which my listeners can easily
• 2:05:21
  Speaker 2: get a copy of because Joe Strecker put a link
• 2:05:23
  Speaker 2: to it on the blog page of 55KRC. com.
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  Speaker 5: Thank you for having me, sir.
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  Speaker 2: Anytime, Jeff. Thank you so much for your time today.
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  Speaker 2: It's 840 right now. 841-55-KRC-D. Talk station. Stick around. Phone
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