Latest / Podcast Championship Wrestling / Episode 67 Open Mic !!!!
Transcript
- 0:00Speaker 1: Hey, this is w W E and c W alumni
- 0:03Speaker 1: look Blue meaning and you're listening to pc W.
- 0:08Speaker 2: The question is, oh you.
- 0:16Speaker 3: Let me talk to her.
- 0:18Speaker 4: I will give you a show like you have never
- 0:21Speaker 4: recovered being before the life because I can't. What do
- 0:26Speaker 4: you guys want.
- 0:27Speaker 1: To talk about?
- 0:39Speaker 3: And the colored rip in the world for the black and.
- 0:43Speaker 1: White of world.
- 0:49Speaker 5: Yeah, let the.
- 1:02Speaker 6: Track I'm bad?
- 1:13Speaker 3: WHOA Why?
- 1:14Speaker 4: I Am.
- 1:18Speaker 3: Back?
- 1:24Speaker 1: Oh, ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls, Chilling of all ages.
- 1:35Speaker 1: Welcome back to another episode of PCW podcast Championship Wrestling.
- 1:39Speaker 1: I am your host, Wayne also known as Semi Dried Chicken,
- 1:42Speaker 1: and this is an open mic. And what do we
- 1:46Speaker 1: do on open mics? We talk about whatever the fuck
- 1:49Speaker 1: we please, whatever's in the news, whatever is going on
- 1:52Speaker 1: wrestling related, wrestling adjacent. With that said, I'm gonna bring
- 1:57Speaker 1: in my co host Drey. What's up, buddy, yo yo?
- 2:33Speaker 3: What to do? PCW crew? Oh?
- 2:36Speaker 1: Man, So I got a list of crap for us
- 2:39Speaker 1: to talk about, from boxing to terrible movies coming out,
- 2:45Speaker 1: all wrestling slightly related. But with that said, let's bring
- 2:50Speaker 1: out our second co host.
- 2:59Speaker 5: H m hm m m.
- 3:07Speaker 7: Mm hmmm, mm hmmm mm hmmm. Mm hmmm mm hmmm,
- 3:20Speaker 7: mm hmmm mm hmmm.
- 3:26Speaker 6: Doyle, Oh, it's me, It's me, it's a deal y.
- 3:31Speaker 6: I'm just still really from the big boxing boxing match
- 3:34Speaker 6: this weekend. Of course, I'm talking about.
- 3:36Speaker 5: The Pride of County County Wicklow Katie Taylor.
- 3:41Speaker 1: Oh that one.
- 3:43Speaker 8: Yeah, still in that mash from Serranto.
- 3:48Speaker 6: Yeah, fucker by crook baby.
- 3:52Speaker 3: With some bullshit.
- 3:55Speaker 1: Oh so she tell us how you feel.
- 3:59Speaker 8: SnO robbed? Yeah, Ronald, I had nothing to do with
- 4:05Speaker 8: the head. But she was the more active fighter. She
- 4:08Speaker 8: landed the bigger punches. I think she landed more punches.
- 4:12Speaker 8: Granted she yeah, she had the dollar back once she
- 4:14Speaker 8: got you know, her dome rocked by other girl ahead,
- 4:19Speaker 8: which left a nasty looking cut above her eye.
- 4:23Speaker 3: But oh yeah, the.
- 4:24Speaker 1: Meat, the meat that was hanging, the meat that was hanging.
- 4:29Speaker 1: But guys, good news is we got the soundboard back
- 4:32Speaker 1: and I've added wonderful sounds to this like uh, like
- 4:35Speaker 1: this one.
- 4:37Speaker 4: I'm gonna get off, cranking your knob just a little
- 4:40Speaker 4: beyond the breaking point.
- 4:42Speaker 3: Up.
- 4:43Speaker 1: I don't think that was the one I meant to
- 4:44Speaker 1: put in there. Sorry, guys, just there's just I make
- 4:51Speaker 1: a lot of them. But then there's also a website
- 4:53Speaker 1: that I find that makes some of them, and that
- 4:55Speaker 1: was the first one that popped up, and I was like, oh, yes,
- 4:59Speaker 1: I must download this song.
- 5:01Speaker 3: I know it's weird. Ship that's ridiculous.
- 5:05Speaker 1: So this weekend, I'm gonna cut loose. I'm going to
- 5:10Speaker 1: a wedding and I'm getting a d D. So I'm
- 5:13Speaker 1: gonna I'm gonna drink a few beers. So if people
- 5:16Speaker 1: ask me how my weekend went.
- 5:19Speaker 4: I drank a beer. I drunk another beer. Three Bears,
- 5:26Speaker 4: four Bears, hold on, five Bears, six Bears, seven Bears,
- 5:31Speaker 4: five Bears, five Bears.
- 5:34Speaker 1: Oh, it's gonna be a fun time. I'm gonna cut loose.
- 5:38Speaker 1: Cousin's wedding. So also listener of the show, so I'll
- 5:43Speaker 1: get it out right. Yeah, all right, guys, I got
- 5:49Speaker 1: some stuff in the news. Let's play the Newsbap Bear,
- 5:52Speaker 1: here we go.
- 5:55Speaker 5: You sin, I see.
- 6:03Speaker 3: Wow, God news for you?
- 6:06Speaker 9: Well, I got news for you.
- 6:10Speaker 6: No.
- 6:14Speaker 1: So this came out today. I don't know if you
- 6:15Speaker 1: guys heard that. Tony Storm says she's leaving pro wrestling Timeless.
- 6:20Speaker 1: Tony Storm lost the aw Women's Championship to Mariah May
- 6:26Speaker 1: and All in twenty twenty four at Wembley Stadium. She
- 6:30Speaker 1: has announced that she's leaving pro wrestling. Here's what she
- 6:32Speaker 1: said during her interview. I'm not used to being a loser.
- 6:36Speaker 1: I felled into everything. I lost in AW, I lost
- 6:39Speaker 1: in Japan, I lost in Mexico. This is the last
- 6:43Speaker 1: you'll hear from me. I enjoy Maria May as your champion.
- 6:48Speaker 1: You can all enjoy that AW is just fine without me.
- 6:52Speaker 1: Everything is going well for AW. They don't need Tony's storm,
- 6:57Speaker 1: Chin's down, tits in, don't bother watch for the shoe.
- 7:02Speaker 1: Uh well a work.
- 7:04Speaker 6: She was marrying a salmon colored jacket while she said that.
- 7:07Speaker 1: I think, oh yeah, you think so, the infamous Mark
- 7:11Speaker 1: Henry Yeah, fake retirement.
- 7:15Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 7:16Speaker 1: I was like, I was like, okay, not believable. I
- 7:20Speaker 1: was to put in the point where you failed in
- 7:23Speaker 1: w W if you have to mention that there too.
- 7:28Speaker 3: However, on a song, go work work, work, work, work works.
- 7:31Speaker 3: Bullshit is a work, work, work, work work.
- 7:34Speaker 5: I'm not sure that she failed in in w W
- 7:37Speaker 5: E and I think they failed her.
- 7:38Speaker 1: Yeah. I believe that heavily too. I I I think
- 7:43Speaker 1: they did because I mean.
- 7:44Speaker 6: Think about some of the women that have gotten away
- 7:46Speaker 6: over the course of the last few years.
- 7:50Speaker 5: Between her Athena, I think they didn't sign Britt Baker.
- 7:55Speaker 5: Uh you Mercedes obviously, Naomi left and came back.
- 8:00Speaker 1: Oh. Speaking of AW uh, AW is right down the
- 8:10Speaker 1: street from me right now.
- 8:12Speaker 8: Uh.
- 8:12Speaker 1: They will be airing on TBS for AW Dynamite tonight
- 8:17Speaker 1: and a lot of people ask me why I'm not
- 8:21Speaker 1: going to AW or if I was, because a lot
- 8:24Speaker 1: of people haven't know it's in the area. Even my
- 8:26Speaker 1: neighbor just asked me before I started the show, just
- 8:28Speaker 1: like it's just not something I pay for. I don't
- 8:33Speaker 1: know why. I'm just not an AW. Uh, I'm not
- 8:39Speaker 1: off AW fucking Mark, I'm just not. I was at
- 8:42Speaker 1: first when AW kicked off and they started, and it
- 8:45Speaker 1: was literally what AW and NXT I would run both
- 8:48Speaker 1: shows at the same time. I was on board for
- 8:51Speaker 1: such a long time and Uh, I don't know, It's
- 8:54Speaker 1: just it's just not my thing creatively, I think right now, well,
- 9:00Speaker 1: a lot of the tops.
- 9:01Speaker 5: Around, you know, every things that have been great, But
- 9:05Speaker 5: by and large, I think they've had a pretty rough
- 9:09Speaker 5: couple months, if not year or two.
- 9:12Speaker 6: Mm hmm.
- 9:13Speaker 5: But you know, when AW is good, it's good for WWE.
- 9:16Speaker 5: So I mean Rising Tide lifts all boats, as they say,
- 9:21Speaker 5: so I think it's good for wrestling when AW is
- 9:23Speaker 5: doing well.
- 9:25Speaker 6: So let's hope they get it going.
- 9:28Speaker 1: I think, yeah, I don't want to trust me. I'm
- 9:30Speaker 1: not like, oh, I hope they fail and I want
- 9:32Speaker 1: to see him go under. I'm like no, Like I'm
- 9:34Speaker 1: a I'm a fan of a lot of the wrestlers
- 9:36Speaker 1: that are over there. I don't want to see them
- 9:39Speaker 1: lose their jobs, Like are you kidding me? Like I
- 9:42Speaker 1: I When a WW wrestler loses their job, I'm always like, oh, well,
- 9:47Speaker 1: they could always fall back on AW at least, right
- 9:49Speaker 1: or you know, another wrestling company. And you know, if
- 9:53Speaker 1: there's little of those companies around them, wrestlers won't really
- 9:56Speaker 1: have many places to fall back to or find places
- 9:59Speaker 1: to grow outside of w W. That's a that's a
- 10:02Speaker 1: big one. A lot of wrestlers go out to AW
- 10:05Speaker 1: or Impact Tena or New Japan to grow a little
- 10:09Speaker 1: more before coming back to WW. Case in point Drew McIntyre.
- 10:16Speaker 1: Drew McIntyre left, came back, a man left, the boy
- 10:21Speaker 1: came back, and man appeared at all.
- 10:26Speaker 8: Yeah, and as much as AW is going through as
- 10:29Speaker 8: doors at a rough patch right now, which it probably
- 10:33Speaker 8: does stem a lot from creative stuff that they're doing
- 10:36Speaker 8: right now that just isn't resonating or you know, getting
- 10:41Speaker 8: fans to invest in their product for more than just
- 10:45Speaker 8: a moment. I don't think anybody wants to see AW
- 10:48Speaker 8: completely fail and go away, because we remember what it
- 10:52Speaker 8: was like when WWE had basically a monopoly, and you know,
- 10:58Speaker 8: it had its pluses and minuses, but definitely, competition is
- 11:05Speaker 8: better for everyone in the end. It's better for the wrestlers,
- 11:10Speaker 8: better for the industry. But they definitely need to figure
- 11:15Speaker 8: out something and you know, get back on their game.
- 11:18Speaker 8: Figure out what it was that got everybody's attention when
- 11:23Speaker 8: they first came out, other than being the shiny new
- 11:25Speaker 8: other than shiny new toy syndrome, other than just being
- 11:28Speaker 8: you know, the new thing. They got to figure out
- 11:30Speaker 8: what it was that made people want to invest in
- 11:35Speaker 8: them and tune into them on a regular basis. I
- 11:37Speaker 8: think somewhere down the line, somewhere throughout this process, they've
- 11:40Speaker 8: lost sight of that.
- 11:42Speaker 5: Well, I mean kind of like that Chicago Bears not
- 11:45Speaker 5: you know, that tail Mary that they just kind of
- 11:48Speaker 5: killed them. I think that one to two combo, losing
- 11:51Speaker 5: Cody and then losing Punk has really knocked AW back
- 11:56Speaker 5: on their heels and they have not recovered from it yet.
- 12:00Speaker 1: They also lost Jade Cargo.
- 12:03Speaker 6: Yeah, quite the needle mover that Cody and Punk.
- 12:08Speaker 1: No, but a blow to their women's division surely.
- 12:13Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 12:14Speaker 8: Yeah, I think Cody definitely more so than Punk. Not
- 12:17Speaker 8: yeah too much, but I think his star power kind
- 12:20Speaker 8: of horned a w was kind of more of a
- 12:24Speaker 8: downhill slide from the jump when he came in. Yeah,
- 12:28Speaker 8: a whole lot of merged, you know, like, yeah, well
- 12:32Speaker 8: he's he's gonna move whatever to help.
- 12:34Speaker 5: And I mean, yea, it's still the same way if
- 12:36Speaker 5: you look at the ratings breakdowns even today, his segment
- 12:39Speaker 5: is always always has the highest rating if you look
- 12:43Speaker 5: at the quarter of the breakdowns or whatever. So I mean,
- 12:46Speaker 5: love him, hate him. I am kind of over him,
- 12:49Speaker 5: but I mean, he the the whole point isn't to
- 12:54Speaker 5: win a fake belt, you know, a prop. It's to
- 12:58Speaker 5: move T shirts and put Punson eyes on screens. And
- 13:03Speaker 5: he does it right.
- 13:04Speaker 8: And I'm not saying I'm not saying that he you know,
- 13:06Speaker 8: he didn't do that in AAW. But I remember, like
- 13:10Speaker 8: when he signed and joined, there was a whole lot
- 13:13Speaker 8: of hype and fanfare behind it because you know, seeing
- 13:15Speaker 8: Punk's return to wrestling. But then almost from nearly day one,
- 13:21Speaker 8: you started hearing stories about drama and this, that and
- 13:24Speaker 8: third and backstage. So it was just like a steady
- 13:26Speaker 8: decline from the first day he showed up to his
- 13:30Speaker 8: final day. So I think by the end he had
- 13:34Speaker 8: become so I guess polarizing in ae W that yeah,
- 13:40Speaker 8: it might move somewhat of a needle when he's on TV,
- 13:43Speaker 8: or people might tune Away's on TV, but I don't
- 13:45Speaker 8: know if that if they were tuning in for anything
- 13:47Speaker 8: that was a benefit to ae W, or if they
- 13:50Speaker 8: were just tuning into Punk to see Punk be Punk.
- 13:53Speaker 8: So that's what I mean when I say I don't
- 13:55Speaker 8: know that he his loss hurt the company as much
- 13:59Speaker 8: as Cody, because obviously, you know Cody, Cody was a draw.
- 14:03Speaker 3: He was.
- 14:05Speaker 8: Plus he was there and when they were still the
- 14:07Speaker 8: shiny new toy thing, so that all that combined to
- 14:11Speaker 8: help a W and they still they just well, I
- 14:15Speaker 8: think I would argue.
- 14:16Speaker 3: That mjf's injury hurt a W as well. Arguably. Yeah,
- 14:27Speaker 3: Edge came.
- 14:27Speaker 8: In with a lot of fan fare and then somehow
- 14:29Speaker 8: it hasn't fully as a stuck. But MJF was on
- 14:33Speaker 8: the verge of becoming like their face of the company
- 14:36Speaker 8: post Cody, and then right as that was happening, he
- 14:40Speaker 8: gets injured and he's out, and now they have to
- 14:43Speaker 8: pivot and is he.
- 14:44Speaker 3: Back now on television?
- 14:48Speaker 8: Yeah, I guess he's come back, and it just doesn't
- 14:52Speaker 8: feel the same. I don't see I don't see people
- 14:54Speaker 8: talking about him as much as they were before he
- 14:56Speaker 8: got injured. It seems like that moment just kind of
- 14:59Speaker 8: as been lost and now they have to work to
- 15:02Speaker 8: try to get that back.
- 15:07Speaker 3: So uh yeah, the storm or the Hurt syndicate.
- 15:13Speaker 1: So yeah, Tony storm out. Yeah a work, totally a work.
- 15:19Speaker 1: Uh yeah, and a W right down the street and
- 15:24Speaker 1: I'm just not interested. Uh but Doyle, isn't a W coming,
- 15:30Speaker 1: isn't isn't a W coming to uh down by you
- 15:34Speaker 1: where they're having that E c W.
- 15:36Speaker 5: I think both companies are always about to come here.
- 15:40Speaker 5: I mean, yeah, twice a year. I think a W
- 15:45Speaker 5: has been here three times a year, the thinking about
- 15:49Speaker 5: making this e c W Arena show a yearly thing.
- 15:54Speaker 3: Yeah, uh yeah, I think that.
- 15:58Speaker 6: I'm sure.
- 15:58Speaker 5: I'm They're are here every couple of months. So AW anyway,
- 16:02Speaker 5: so I would they kind of they don't have quite
- 16:06Speaker 5: the expansive.
- 16:10Speaker 6: WWE has, I don't think so.
- 16:12Speaker 5: I mean they I think they repeat the same markets
- 16:16Speaker 5: quite a bit.
- 16:17Speaker 1: Okay, so you got the n XT show that's gonna
- 16:20Speaker 1: be in the old ECW Arena and then say AW
- 16:23Speaker 1: goes there, say you get free tickets to only one
- 16:26Speaker 1: of them? Which one you go into?
- 16:30Speaker 3: What?
- 16:30Speaker 6: I'm sorry? What? What am I options?
- 16:32Speaker 1: Okay, you have the NXT is coming to the old
- 16:35Speaker 1: ECW arena. Correct, so we're gonna have them. So you
- 16:39Speaker 1: got free tickets to those or a W coming to
- 16:42Speaker 1: that arena? Which which one you're gonna go?
- 16:45Speaker 3: See?
- 16:46Speaker 6: Oh that's tough.
- 16:48Speaker 5: Probably a W, just because I'm way more familiar with
- 16:51Speaker 5: that product than I am n XT. I barely watch NXT, uh,
- 16:56Speaker 5: but I have been more recently. I have been watching
- 16:59Speaker 5: some of the clips. But I'd have to go with
- 17:04Speaker 5: a W, just because I'm so much.
- 17:05Speaker 6: More familiar with with what they do than I am.
- 17:08Speaker 6: In X state, frankly.
- 17:09Speaker 5: I mean I've been watching all the the you know,
- 17:12Speaker 5: the new girls coming in and stuff. I've been I'm
- 17:16Speaker 5: enjoying that. But you know, I see all these people.
- 17:19Speaker 5: I don't know, maybe maybe just I hate. I'm sorry
- 17:21Speaker 5: if I'm usurping a news item from you. Uh for it,
- 17:24Speaker 5: it's you is ending And I have no idea who
- 17:28Speaker 5: that is. Like, I know there's a group called Chase You.
- 17:30Speaker 5: I couldn't tell you a single member's name. I don't
- 17:33Speaker 5: know how many members there are.
- 17:35Speaker 3: Uh.
- 17:35Speaker 6: And I see all day online ohoes broken up.
- 17:41Speaker 1: They've been together for a while.
- 17:43Speaker 8: Yeah, like they've been in an XT for a minute,
- 17:46Speaker 8: like they have been called up.
- 17:48Speaker 3: Mm hm no.
- 17:51Speaker 1: But you know it's just the right call, I guess,
- 17:53Speaker 1: because you know they held bron breaker back for a while.
- 17:58Speaker 1: We thought for a while he was thinking it called up.
- 18:02Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, honestly, I think the longer you're there,
- 18:06Speaker 5: the better you have a better chance you have.
- 18:08Speaker 6: I'm making it on.
- 18:08Speaker 3: The main roll.
- 18:10Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean, security of coming gone.
- 18:13Speaker 5: It's been a revolving door. I mean, maybe we should
- 18:17Speaker 5: go through and look sometime. But the percentage of got
- 18:21Speaker 5: people to make it, it's got to be pretty.
- 18:23Speaker 8: Low, right, Yeah, yeah, I think, well, I guess yeah,
- 18:28Speaker 8: if you look at depending on what your your metric is,
- 18:32Speaker 8: sure you could probably say more people probably don't make
- 18:35Speaker 8: it than do make it, right, there's also the ones
- 18:39Speaker 8: who do make it and make it big. Because if
- 18:42Speaker 8: you think about, you know, all the top names in
- 18:46Speaker 8: WWE right now that ain't named Cody, almost all them
- 18:52Speaker 8: came from NXT.
- 18:53Speaker 10: Mm hmm, yeah, there was a Kevin Owens was already
- 18:58Speaker 10: more or less fully warmed, you know, right, the way
- 19:02Speaker 10: they're the way NXT works these days is not is
- 19:04Speaker 10: not quite the same.
- 19:05Speaker 6: I'm more talking about people or you know, people that
- 19:11Speaker 6: have purely come.
- 19:11Speaker 5: Up through the NXT program. I mean, even just recently
- 19:16Speaker 5: what we saw Indie Heartwell got released, Teak and Knocks
- 19:21Speaker 5: got release.
- 19:22Speaker 8: I think haven't they always been essentially been a mix
- 19:24Speaker 8: of people who already have like a considerable amount of
- 19:29Speaker 8: experience on the indie scenes versus and new people.
- 19:32Speaker 5: Yea, always kind of years have been the indie people
- 19:36Speaker 5: have been, the percentage of them has gone down, and yeah,
- 19:39Speaker 5: for sure people has gone up.
- 19:43Speaker 1: I think we've picked clean over the years, especially early NXTAM,
- 19:49Speaker 1: we've picked clean, the good Wrestlers of the Indies. Uh,
- 19:53Speaker 1: you know, that's where we got our seth Rollins. That's
- 19:55Speaker 1: where we got you know, Roman Reigns and uh you
- 19:58Speaker 1: know all the lot of guys who came up during
- 20:01Speaker 1: that period because there was a huge flux of like
- 20:03Speaker 1: new talent every year. It was like right after Rumble
- 20:08Speaker 1: or not Rumble, uh WrestleMania, we would get like NXT
- 20:11Speaker 1: wrestlers getting called up, and it was like to the
- 20:14Speaker 1: point where we got used to it and we started
- 20:17Speaker 1: assuming and expectation you know, turned to speculation or speculation
- 20:25Speaker 1: became expectation, I guess that's how you phrase it. And
- 20:29Speaker 1: then it became a disappointment, like we're like, oh, this
- 20:32Speaker 1: person's totally gonna get called up, and they got held
- 20:34Speaker 1: back for a couple months, that a year, and then
- 20:38Speaker 1: some people just stayed and like you said, like Chase,
- 20:42Speaker 1: you they've been there for a minute. Uh So maybe
- 20:45Speaker 1: it was for a good reason. They were just were
- 20:47Speaker 1: not ready to be called up, just like maybe bron
- 20:51Speaker 1: really wasn't ready to be called up and they saw
- 20:54Speaker 1: that and we totally didn't.
- 20:56Speaker 8: But it could be that it could also be a
- 20:58Speaker 8: mix of things other things as well, because I mean
- 21:02Speaker 8: NXT has to be sustainable in and of itself as well,
- 21:07Speaker 8: and calling somebody up just for the sake of calling
- 21:10Speaker 8: them up might not always be to their benefit.
- 21:13Speaker 1: You can't proach like that, right.
- 21:16Speaker 8: There's a risk of you know, calling somebody up with
- 21:18Speaker 8: nothing for them to do, and then they can get
- 21:21Speaker 8: lost in the sauce that way. And then so rather
- 21:25Speaker 8: than do that, maybe it's better that they stay down
- 21:29Speaker 8: in the XT for you know, another few months, or
- 21:31Speaker 8: do another year in NXT and let them get that
- 21:35Speaker 8: experience of not just you know, being a better wrestled,
- 21:38Speaker 8: but let them experience being the face of something, being
- 21:41Speaker 8: the start, being the main event. Let them get that
- 21:45Speaker 8: main event experience for you. I think that's kind of
- 21:47Speaker 8: what they did with Braun that really helped bron Breakers,
- 21:51Speaker 8: you know, that year of being the guy in n
- 21:54Speaker 8: XT before having them jump up to the main roster.
- 21:57Speaker 8: It seems to got to do what they're doing now
- 21:58Speaker 8: with Trick Williams, because you know a lot of people
- 22:00Speaker 8: thought Trick was gonna get called up after after WrestleMania
- 22:05Speaker 8: or and we've seen Mellow get the call up and
- 22:09Speaker 8: he's doing okay, but his growth is much seemed to
- 22:15Speaker 8: be happening at a slower rate than say a bron
- 22:18Speaker 8: Breaker and Mellow had some time as you know, the
- 22:24Speaker 8: main event guy in nx T. So I think it's
- 22:27Speaker 8: kind of more of a case by case basis. Again,
- 22:30Speaker 8: I haven't followed Chase you enough to state to have
- 22:33Speaker 8: any real theory as to why they never got the
- 22:36Speaker 8: call up. Maybe they just felt they were best in NXT,
- 22:41Speaker 8: and maybe calling them up as an entire faction. I
- 22:43Speaker 8: don't know that it would have worked for on the
- 22:46Speaker 8: main roster. I don't that whole gimmick. I just don't
- 22:50Speaker 8: think would work on the main roster. Like Chase, you like,
- 22:52Speaker 8: you know, a college thing, like you know, can you
- 22:56Speaker 8: really be a college faction on the main roster?
- 22:59Speaker 1: I think because you've got to graduate, right.
- 23:03Speaker 8: I feel like that fit more in NXT, because you know,
- 23:05Speaker 8: it had the whole college factor. You could, you know,
- 23:09Speaker 8: somewhat look at NXT as being like school for whereas
- 23:15Speaker 8: the main roster is like getting out in the real world.
- 23:18Speaker 3: NXT, you could say, has.
- 23:19Speaker 8: That college type feel to it in a sense. So
- 23:22Speaker 8: Chase a faction like Chase you worked there in NXT
- 23:26Speaker 8: where the people are learning and coming up and growing.
- 23:28Speaker 8: So you have this, you know that there's that gimmick
- 23:32Speaker 8: that works there that wouldn't work necessarily on the main roster.
- 23:35Speaker 8: And I think they understood that, and I think that's
- 23:37Speaker 8: maybe why they kept them there. And maybe this breakup
- 23:41Speaker 8: is to finally allow some of them to maybe make
- 23:45Speaker 8: that jump to the main roster with new characters and
- 23:48Speaker 8: new gimmicks or something of that nature.
- 23:50Speaker 3: Maybe just finally run their course.
- 23:52Speaker 8: And they're gonna let them people, you know, see what
- 23:55Speaker 8: they can do on the on their own, or see
- 23:57Speaker 8: what they can do as as performers.
- 24:01Speaker 3: You guys, even though I.
- 24:02Speaker 8: Haven't followed him, I'm curious to see what's next for
- 24:06Speaker 8: the individuals.
- 24:07Speaker 1: Right, do you guys know I tried to get Carlos
- 24:13Speaker 1: on today. I tried. Uh, actually I reached out and
- 24:18Speaker 1: I called him, and uh, this is what I got.
- 24:24Speaker 6: The number you have reached is not ever record.
- 24:31Speaker 1: The number you have reached is not conservant.
- 24:34Speaker 7: This is a record.
- 24:39Speaker 1: And let me ask you guys something, how many like
- 24:52Speaker 1: times have you called somebody and they've not picked up
- 24:55Speaker 1: and that's the tone you got and then an you
- 25:00Speaker 1: got that's a landline? Right?
- 25:04Speaker 8: Well, yeah, yeah, that's more of a landline thing.
- 25:08Speaker 4: Now.
- 25:09Speaker 8: I'm obviously everybody has cell phones now and then with
- 25:12Speaker 8: my job, I do have to call people if they've
- 25:15Speaker 8: ever had like disconnected numbers or something like that.
- 25:18Speaker 3: That's definitely not its tone.
- 25:20Speaker 1: Didn't the wise man have two phones?
- 25:23Speaker 5: He hasn't got a new phone his whole time, because
- 25:27Speaker 5: the last time we saw him, Solo was stomping on
- 25:30Speaker 5: his phone.
- 25:31Speaker 1: Right, But no, but yeah, yeah, goddamn it, guys, catching
- 25:38Speaker 1: on continuity, I got a button for that one.
- 25:44Speaker 6: Something else about it.
- 25:45Speaker 5: There's a more phone controversy also in that storyline.
- 25:49Speaker 1: Tell me.
- 25:51Speaker 5: There's a backstage I guess it was on SmackDown where
- 25:55Speaker 5: there are the og bloodline are all in a room,
- 25:58Speaker 5: Roman sitting down and Solo's music starts playing and they
- 26:02Speaker 5: all look at the screen. Sammy pulls out something that
- 26:06Speaker 5: looks like a phone from his pocket and throws it
- 26:08Speaker 5: behind him onto the couch. So something's going on there.
- 26:14Speaker 6: I don't know if.
- 26:14Speaker 5: Man take the number to change the number or swap
- 26:19Speaker 5: Roman's phone out with a different one.
- 26:21Speaker 6: Something's going on.
- 26:25Speaker 1: Oh damn, the plot thickens. I didn't see that, Doyle.
- 26:33Speaker 3: I didn't catch that either, I'd have to go back
- 26:34Speaker 3: and rewatch that.
- 26:36Speaker 5: Wow.
- 26:36Speaker 8: Wait, if it furthers my theory that Sammy's gonna betray him,
- 26:40Speaker 8: I'm here for it.
- 26:41Speaker 3: Here we go.
- 26:42Speaker 1: This deserves it. Damn damn that was good.
- 26:48Speaker 3: That was the rest of the world to hate. Sammy's
- 26:50Speaker 3: ain't as much as I do.
- 26:52Speaker 1: Speaking of the Rock, did you guys see the newest
- 26:57Speaker 1: Rock set? Pictures of him on the set of Moana
- 27:00Speaker 1: Live Action? Moana? Now? I know this is a podcast,
- 27:06Speaker 1: so you can't see it, but you can go and
- 27:10Speaker 1: google it. So google it and it's it's not as
- 27:13Speaker 1: goofy as I thought it was gonna be, Like I
- 27:15Speaker 1: love the movie Mohana. I thought he was gonna be big,
- 27:18Speaker 1: goofy looking like maybe I don't know, some cgi to
- 27:23Speaker 1: him or something.
- 27:24Speaker 3: But no, he just.
- 27:25Speaker 1: Looks like jacked Rock, Like he's this guy just never
- 27:30Speaker 1: stops working out and and uh, what else I want
- 27:36Speaker 1: to bring up about him? Oh? The is anybody gonna
- 27:40Speaker 1: go see the new Red? Is it red? One? Am
- 27:44Speaker 1: I gonna go see that one? With the Rock?
- 27:45Speaker 6: That looks like the fucking worst movie I've ever seen?
- 27:50Speaker 8: That looks like the movie you watch at home. I'm
- 27:52Speaker 8: that's that don't look like theaterre worthy.
- 27:55Speaker 6: Yeah on TNT when you're sick.
- 27:58Speaker 1: Yeah, I remember, this is the movie that he was
- 28:03Speaker 1: supposedly pissing in bottles for, Like this is the one
- 28:07Speaker 1: that he was Yeah, this is the one that he
- 28:10Speaker 1: was showing up eight hours late to set eight hours
- 28:14Speaker 1: eight That let that sing in eight hours? Like imagine
- 28:18Speaker 1: if the guy you work with didn't show up to
- 28:21Speaker 1: work until eight hours later. Fuck, and then this guy's
- 28:26Speaker 1: pissing in bottles like class teremuna. That's how it's made
- 28:31Speaker 1: the rock pissing in bottles.
- 28:35Speaker 8: Well, when that guy is the marquee name one dagone thing,
- 28:38Speaker 8: he can do whatever the fuck he wants.
- 28:40Speaker 6: Yeah.
- 28:42Speaker 1: Yeah, and for some.
- 28:43Speaker 8: People he's top building. He's the top guy. Y'all work
- 28:46Speaker 8: on his schedule.
- 28:49Speaker 3: I know.
- 28:49Speaker 8: Uh, I advocated for it. I'm not saying I agree
- 28:52Speaker 8: with it, but in reality is a reality.
- 28:56Speaker 5: That movie's budget was two hundred and fifty million. Do
- 28:58Speaker 5: you know what it made on a Toby weekend.
- 29:01Speaker 8: That thirty something or seventy Yeah, well, yeah, it's not
- 29:06Speaker 8: gonna make his money back because yeah, two hundred and
- 29:08Speaker 8: fifty miles, two hundred and fifty million dollar budget, then
- 29:10Speaker 8: another one hundred million I think they said marketing.
- 29:13Speaker 1: Yeah, where do we where do we see that popping
- 29:16Speaker 1: up on the Netflix? Is that Netflix on Amazon Prime?
- 29:20Speaker 1: Where do we see that?
- 29:22Speaker 3: Who's the studio behind it?
- 29:25Speaker 1: I don't know.
- 29:26Speaker 6: Yeah, that's that's informative.
- 29:28Speaker 8: Yeah, depends on what studios behind it. But either way,
- 29:31Speaker 8: it'll probably be on streaming at like the beginning of
- 29:35Speaker 8: the year later, but.
- 29:38Speaker 6: Like a Poker two I think was on streaming right
- 29:42Speaker 6: like I'm one later.
- 29:43Speaker 1: That s yeah, but I will see Maana, the live
- 29:47Speaker 1: action Mowana. I will see that.
- 29:50Speaker 3: I see.
- 29:51Speaker 8: I'm glad you brought that up because everybody's sitting there
- 29:54Speaker 8: trying to dunk all rock now like it's over for
- 29:56Speaker 8: rugg rug up in film. First of all, when the
- 29:59Speaker 8: fuck have you ever se and a top.
- 30:00Speaker 3: Actor hang it up in film?
- 30:02Speaker 8: Yeah, and they just decided, oh, I'm just never making
- 30:07Speaker 8: movies again, shut the fuck up with that dumb as ship.
- 30:09Speaker 8: And two everybody dunking on him now like Mowana tu
- 30:12Speaker 8: ain't right around them, motherfucking corner, and like that ship
- 30:15Speaker 8: ain't about to do dumb numbers.
- 30:18Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 30:19Speaker 3: People just really quick to want to know, and.
- 30:23Speaker 8: Everybody wants to dunk on the Rock and wants to
- 30:25Speaker 8: hate on him because you know all the backstage or
- 30:28Speaker 8: the behind the scenes stories that came out around him
- 30:31Speaker 8: with the DC and the black at him and this
- 30:33Speaker 8: that and the third whatever. He's still a billionaire, he's
- 30:38Speaker 8: still a top name in Hollywood. He's still going to
- 30:42Speaker 8: make money. And we've been through this before. I remember
- 30:45Speaker 8: when everybody was dunking on him back in the two
- 30:48Speaker 8: thousands after he made like The Tooth Fairy and all
- 30:50Speaker 8: that shit.
- 30:51Speaker 3: And everybody was like, oh, the Rock's done, Rock needs
- 30:53Speaker 3: hanging up rocks. Yeah, yeah, Yeah.
- 30:55Speaker 8: What happened after that Fast and Furious franchise right back
- 31:00Speaker 8: on top. So, yeah, he's putting out a couple of duns. Now,
- 31:04Speaker 8: he'll be right back when he finds, he recalibrates or
- 31:08Speaker 8: does whatever, he'll have hits again. People will be right
- 31:11Speaker 8: back in there watching and know he ain't gonna give
- 31:14Speaker 8: up making movies.
- 31:15Speaker 3: Yeah, the other top.
- 31:17Speaker 8: Hollywood star ever stopped making movies unless they got oldest
- 31:20Speaker 8: fucking just decided to retire. But they none the never
- 31:23Speaker 8: stopped because they had a couple.
- 31:25Speaker 3: Of duds last year.
- 31:27Speaker 8: The highest a decade of duds. He's still putting in work.
- 31:31Speaker 1: Oh yeah, he needs the money. Last year, the highest
- 31:34Speaker 1: the most streamed movie was across all platforms. Last year,
- 31:40Speaker 1: a movie that came out years ago was still number one,
- 31:45Speaker 1: and I've watched it twice last year, I'll fucking admit it.
- 31:48Speaker 1: Or this year I watched it like it's a fucking
- 31:51Speaker 1: good movie. It's got good song like that.
- 31:53Speaker 8: Yeah, movies like that will have the longest of legs,
- 31:56Speaker 8: just like Frozen did for years after it came out.
- 32:01Speaker 3: People still watch the hell out of that.
- 32:03Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 32:05Speaker 8: Now, if ma Wanna two comes out in bombs, then
- 32:07Speaker 8: we can have a conversation.
- 32:09Speaker 3: But I highly doubt it will.
- 32:11Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean, guys, what can.
- 32:14Speaker 3: I say except real.
- 32:16Speaker 1: Welco I had that one fired up nice.
- 32:23Speaker 3: And I don't think a lot of action Mowana too. Yeah,
- 32:26Speaker 3: well that's why I'm talking playing Maui.
- 32:28Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what I was talking about.
- 32:29Speaker 5: The set photos, you guys are the only reason I
- 32:32Speaker 5: know that that's was from Mowanna.
- 32:34Speaker 6: I would never in a million years have known that.
- 32:37Speaker 1: All right, doll this week and I'll come in to
- 32:39Speaker 1: your house. We're gonna watch Mawana together. We're gonna put
- 32:42Speaker 1: on our Disney socks. It's gonna be fucking awesome.
- 32:46Speaker 6: I don't think we're gonna do that.
- 32:51Speaker 8: God, I will find the show at the theater to work,
- 32:54Speaker 8: so I don't have to do that ship.
- 32:59Speaker 3: All right?
- 32:59Speaker 1: What I was like. Raw will be moving back to
- 33:03Speaker 1: TV fourteen. Their significant plan to put Money Night Raw
- 33:10Speaker 1: on Netflix debuted, and with the debut episode expected to
- 33:14Speaker 1: have a premium live event feel. Advertised stars include Johnson
- 33:18Speaker 1: at Roman, Reigns, Cody rose, Biancapella Are and Cnapunk for
- 33:21Speaker 1: the La premiere Netflix, which already hosts WWE content Selection
- 33:26Speaker 1: list Raw as TV fourteen show. While this doesn't single
- 33:30Speaker 1: a return to the craziness of the Attitude era, it
- 33:34Speaker 1: suggests more uncensored promos and slightly edgier storylines. Earlier this year,
- 33:40Speaker 1: of the Rocks promos were sometimes censored by Fox and
- 33:43Speaker 1: the USA network. Triple H confirmed that this won't happen
- 33:47Speaker 1: on Netflix. The first Raw on Netflix will take place
- 33:51Speaker 1: at the Into It, Into It Dome in LA on
- 33:56Speaker 1: January sixth, twenty twenty five, and this will just roll
- 34:00Speaker 1: right to the next story. Travis Scott will appear on
- 34:02Speaker 1: the episode and his music will serve as the official
- 34:05Speaker 1: theme song for the Red brand during the Netflix era.
- 34:09Speaker 1: And with that said, Triple H also crowned a new
- 34:13Speaker 1: Hardcore Champion, revealing the location for the role on Netflix,
- 34:17Speaker 1: which I just mentioned. But yeah, he gave a hardcore
- 34:20Speaker 1: title to Travis Scott and which we discussed on the
- 34:25Speaker 1: discord is maybe he loses it the same night to somebody,
- 34:32Speaker 1: because I believe the hardcore title had very similar rules
- 34:37Speaker 1: like the twenty four to seven where it's just as
- 34:40Speaker 1: long as this ref And it made me think a
- 34:44Speaker 1: little bit today because they during the Vince's reign we
- 34:49Speaker 1: have recently, he had the twenty four to seven title
- 34:53Speaker 1: and a lot of us were disappointed when we got
- 34:56Speaker 1: that title. When Mick fully revealed that, we groaned and
- 35:01Speaker 1: he he even didn't want the title. He laid it
- 35:04Speaker 1: on the ground, was like, come and get it. Like
- 35:07Speaker 1: that's literally how the title was introduced to the company,
- 35:10Speaker 1: just laying on the ground, come and get it. I
- 35:13Speaker 1: think we were I was hoping at the time for
- 35:16Speaker 1: the hardcore title and I doubt it, but like, would
- 35:19Speaker 1: it be cool if maybe we had a hardcore title again?
- 35:23Speaker 3: You know, depends on the execution depends on the execution.
- 35:29Speaker 1: Okay, Doyle, you're he has in the land of hardcore
- 35:33Speaker 1: down there in Philly. What do you think.
- 35:36Speaker 5: I don't think we need another championship, regardless of what
- 35:42Speaker 5: kind of championship it is.
- 35:43Speaker 6: I think we have plenty.
- 35:45Speaker 5: Uh.
- 35:47Speaker 6: But yeah, I mean, if you're not gonna.
- 35:49Speaker 5: Do you know, blood and guts matches regularly, having a
- 35:55Speaker 5: hardcore title is kind of stupid.
- 35:59Speaker 1: They had some care easy, you know, like.
- 36:02Speaker 6: Bluffless.
- 36:03Speaker 5: You know, you're not gonna do it with chair shots
- 36:05Speaker 5: in the head, which I don't think they should do,
- 36:07Speaker 5: but like that's what the herd, you know, like I
- 36:11Speaker 5: can only see so many people get rammed into the
- 36:13Speaker 5: steps and you know, like you're not gonna be cheese
- 36:17Speaker 5: you know, if you're not gonna have weed whackers and
- 36:19Speaker 5: cheese graders and glass and you know, I do recall.
- 36:25Speaker 1: Some like silly ways people got pinned, Like I remember
- 36:27Speaker 1: I think it was like Brisco like pinned somebody while
- 36:30Speaker 1: they were sleeping.
- 36:31Speaker 6: Yeah. I thought there was fun.
- 36:34Speaker 1: Yeah, and for like it was fun for a little bit.
- 36:37Speaker 9: The whole.
- 36:40Speaker 1: Our Truth sixty four title runs, it was fucking bananas. Uh,
- 36:46Speaker 1: they treat I guess that is like legit, like his title,
- 36:50Speaker 1: like he made that thing as goofy as he was,
- 36:53Speaker 1: Like all.
- 36:53Speaker 5: Sorts of weird people had it, and you know, like
- 36:56Speaker 5: the if you look at the list of champions, it's
- 36:59Speaker 5: pretty funny.
- 37:00Speaker 1: The Undertaker had it, I won't.
- 37:02Speaker 6: I think Gronk had it for a minute.
- 37:06Speaker 1: Oh we're talking about twenty four to seven title? Yeah, yeah, yeah,
- 37:09Speaker 1: Oh my god, yeah there's twenty four seven title. The
- 37:12Speaker 1: list is ridiculous.
- 37:16Speaker 5: I guess the Hardcroad title would be too, because a
- 37:18Speaker 5: lot of ridiculous people had that.
- 37:19Speaker 3: Also.
- 37:20Speaker 8: Yeah, I think they're past. I think w W has
- 37:24Speaker 8: passed the point of doing silly, gimmicky comedy titles. I
- 37:28Speaker 8: think if they're going to introduce titles, they're going to
- 37:30Speaker 8: be serious. So I don't understand the point of him presenting.
- 37:36Speaker 6: I mean title speed thing.
- 37:39Speaker 1: Right, that's that's a title, right, Yeah, there's about.
- 37:47Speaker 8: That one is because it's a Twitter exclusive belt, so
- 37:50Speaker 8: you know, you don't really have to deal with it
- 37:52Speaker 8: or worry about it taking up value TV time.
- 37:57Speaker 5: Well you may have to worry about uh apparently everyone
- 38:01Speaker 5: abandoned in Twitter.
- 38:03Speaker 1: Oh my god. Yeah, yeah, imagine that if like they
- 38:05Speaker 1: abandoned Twitter, It's it's like, oh shit, like I might
- 38:08Speaker 1: have to give up this title.
- 38:11Speaker 3: Welcome the new Blue Sky Champion.
- 38:13Speaker 1: Yeah right, So talking about titles, we got recently introduced
- 38:19Speaker 1: to a new Women's United States Championship tournament bracket. It's
- 38:24Speaker 1: going the finals are going going to be at Saturday night.
- 38:26Speaker 1: In main event, they revealed the look of the title,
- 38:29Speaker 1: and I gotta say I like the look. I'm always
- 38:32Speaker 1: a sucker for the white strap and the women always
- 38:35Speaker 1: get like the white strap, and I just I think
- 38:38Speaker 1: it looks really good. I'll go over the list here.
- 38:43Speaker 1: They had a trip. This is weird. I they did
- 38:46Speaker 1: triple threats, which I didn't really notice until I really
- 38:51Speaker 1: started looking at it. Bailey Cancel, Ray and BFAB had
- 38:56Speaker 1: a match and Bailey won that and she went on.
- 39:00Speaker 1: This week we will have Bianca Bellair, Chelsea Green and
- 39:04Speaker 1: Blair Davenport and then uh, the next matchupter that would
- 39:11Speaker 1: be Jade Cargole, Meechen and Piper Nevin. And then in
- 39:15Speaker 1: the last bracket we have Naomi versus Tiffany Stratton versus
- 39:20Speaker 1: Lestre Lopez. Can you guys, I'll give you my picks,
- 39:27Speaker 1: but can you guys also think of the two you
- 39:30Speaker 1: can see in the finals and the one you might
- 39:33Speaker 1: see go over for me in the finals. I could
- 39:36Speaker 1: see Chelsea Hmmm, I'm gonna say Tiffany Stratton, and that's
- 39:46Speaker 1: a fucking stretch because I know she has a briefcase already.
- 39:52Speaker 1: By the end of the day, I think Chelsea Green
- 39:53Speaker 1: has this title, and Oliver Drey, what do you think.
- 40:00Speaker 8: I've said from the beginning that this is clearly going
- 40:05Speaker 8: to be a big card title, therefore used to highlight
- 40:09Speaker 8: the women in the mid card as opposed to established champions,
- 40:14Speaker 8: women who have already won the world titles before. This
- 40:16Speaker 8: should be used to shut to highlight the rest of
- 40:20Speaker 8: the women's roster, the ones that you know, we don't
- 40:23Speaker 8: see in the main events seen all the time. So
- 40:26Speaker 8: I was kind of disappointed when Bailey won the first match,
- 40:30Speaker 8: because this does nothing for her and she becomes a
- 40:35Speaker 8: United States champion, so what it doesn't like she's a
- 40:40Speaker 8: main eventor she's world champion. Material she doesn't need exactly,
- 40:46Speaker 8: So what what what is this now becoming? We we
- 40:49Speaker 8: are recreating the Grand Slam, are we.
- 40:53Speaker 3: Right? Like?
- 40:54Speaker 8: I damnsel don't want to see that happen. I did
- 40:58Speaker 8: I'm glad that at least be Fab got to shine
- 41:01Speaker 8: in that match. Like to me, out of the three,
- 41:02Speaker 8: she stood out the most in that match. Granted, working
- 41:06Speaker 8: with two veterans like Candice Lorray and Bailey help a lot,
- 41:09Speaker 8: help out a lot, But that's good for her. She
- 41:13Speaker 8: got that exposure and hopefully people took notice of it and.
- 41:17Speaker 3: You know, pay some attention to her.
- 41:21Speaker 8: But moving forward and the rest of the matches, I
- 41:24Speaker 8: don't want to see veterans go over. As much as
- 41:26Speaker 8: I love Bianca, I don't want to see her win
- 41:28Speaker 8: against Chelsea and Blair. It needs to be to me,
- 41:31Speaker 8: that should be Chelsea. Chelsea absolutely needs to win that one.
- 41:35Speaker 8: Jade Meechin and Piper Knivvin. Jade is about as close
- 41:40Speaker 8: to being in the main event scene without actually being
- 41:42Speaker 8: in the main event scene, so she doesn't need to
- 41:44Speaker 8: win that one in my opinion, although it might not
- 41:47Speaker 8: hurt for her. I think any one of those three
- 41:50Speaker 8: I think would be good for that. But if I
- 41:53Speaker 8: had to pick one, I would say probably Piper Knivvin
- 41:57Speaker 8: she come out of that maybe, and then Naomi Tiffany Stratten,
- 42:01Speaker 8: Electro Lopez. Tiffany Stratten's probably gonna win. My pick would
- 42:07Speaker 8: be Naomi, and my pick would be Naomi for this
- 42:10Speaker 8: unless Naomi is about to enter the main event scene.
- 42:15Speaker 8: Is she's about to end in the main events scene,
- 42:17Speaker 8: then I'm okay with her losing in the first round.
- 42:20Speaker 1: Here, Well, she is a title shot right now against
- 42:23Speaker 1: uh the against was it no? Not live? Yeah?
- 42:30Speaker 8: Yeah, there's a difference between having a title shot versus
- 42:34Speaker 8: actually being in the main event scene.
- 42:38Speaker 3: Title just a match.
- 42:40Speaker 8: Being a main in the main event scene means you
- 42:42Speaker 8: actually have a legitimate, believable chance of them actually putting
- 42:48Speaker 8: the title on you.
- 42:49Speaker 1: But this is kind of a spoiler though, right. You
- 42:53Speaker 1: know she's not gonna beat Naya because she's in the
- 42:56Speaker 1: bracket for the United States title? Is that kind of
- 42:59Speaker 1: like right?
- 43:01Speaker 3: More or less?
- 43:02Speaker 8: Because yeah, she's not about to be there's no if
- 43:04Speaker 8: if she were to beat Nia Jackson come the w
- 43:08Speaker 8: W Women's champion, then there's no reason for her to
- 43:10Speaker 8: be in the tournament. So obviously she's not gonna beat Naya,
- 43:16Speaker 8: But that also doesn't necessarily mean that she would win
- 43:18Speaker 8: this three way match either. But either way, getting to
- 43:22Speaker 8: the finals, if I had to pick my finals, it'd
- 43:25Speaker 8: be Chelsea Green versus Piper and Nipping. Yeah, I want
- 43:30Speaker 8: to have the two friends in the final match having
- 43:32Speaker 8: to face each other. I think that's that combination that
- 43:35Speaker 8: has the most drama and story behind it that would
- 43:39Speaker 8: actually pull the audience in to see what how it
- 43:43Speaker 8: plays out, versus it just being you know, two other people.
- 43:50Speaker 8: So I would love to see Chelsea as the underground,
- 43:52Speaker 8: as the underdog, upset Bailey in a match, and then Piper,
- 43:58Speaker 8: you know, upset or steamroll through her weight to the
- 44:03Speaker 8: finals and then they got to face each other. That's
- 44:06Speaker 8: that'd be my pick. Which'll you winning?
- 44:09Speaker 1: Yeah, Doyle, I mean the friends story would be fun.
- 44:15Speaker 5: I think there's a chance that they do do a
- 44:18Speaker 5: friend story, but it's Jade and Bianca in the finals,
- 44:22Speaker 5: and that's the beginning of their unraveling, which I think
- 44:25Speaker 5: is too early.
- 44:26Speaker 1: I think it's too early as well.
- 44:29Speaker 8: One of them has to become US Champion while they're
- 44:32Speaker 8: Tag champions at the same time.
- 44:34Speaker 1: I figured it would make it pointless because then if
- 44:37Speaker 1: the tag titles weren't in the picture. I would totally
- 44:39Speaker 1: agree it would be a perfect way to separate them
- 44:43Speaker 1: by putting a title in between them and a friendly
- 44:47Speaker 1: match could turn into a good rivalry, you know, over
- 44:52Speaker 1: this title. But as soon as you know, as soon
- 44:56Speaker 1: as they have the tag titles on them, they're not
- 44:57Speaker 1: going to do that. They're not going to double them
- 44:59Speaker 1: up on the title. That's that's that's kind of pointless, right,
- 45:04Speaker 1: like to saturate. I don't know, I don't get it.
- 45:11Speaker 5: I thought that if they did this and Survivor series,
- 45:14Speaker 5: I thought Chelsea Green was a lock to win it.
- 45:18Speaker 6: But they're doing it Saturday night's main event.
- 45:20Speaker 1: I was gonna say, because that's right there in Canada
- 45:23Speaker 1: is the final.
- 45:24Speaker 6: Yeah, well not only Canada but her hometown specifically.
- 45:27Speaker 5: Yeah, but yeah, Chelsea versus Piper would be would be
- 45:32Speaker 5: fun finals.
- 45:33Speaker 6: I think, you know, I think Meetchen is a dark
- 45:38Speaker 6: horse and all of this.
- 45:39Speaker 5: I think she's like the perfect combination of has flirted
- 45:43Speaker 5: with the main event but not quite gotten there.
- 45:46Speaker 6: It's pretty good in the ring.
- 45:47Speaker 5: I think has been around quite a bit, you know,
- 45:51Speaker 5: had had some ups and downs, whatever, and I think
- 45:53Speaker 5: a nice reward for you know, sticking around and sticking
- 45:56Speaker 5: through it and whatever, as well as elevating her to
- 45:59Speaker 5: the next level could be being you know, the first holder.
- 46:04Speaker 5: So I would look at her as a as a
- 46:06Speaker 5: kind of a dark horse in this, I would wouldn't.
- 46:08Speaker 6: I wouldn't be shocked.
- 46:08Speaker 5: You know, I'd be shocked if if Candice Larray had won,
- 46:11Speaker 5: you know what I mean, I'd be But I won't
- 46:15Speaker 5: be shocked at all if it ends.
- 46:16Speaker 3: Up being Meetchin. Yeah, I'm one hundred percent with you
- 46:19Speaker 3: on that.
- 46:19Speaker 8: Like if not Chelsea Green, my number two pick would
- 46:22Speaker 8: probably that I would want to see when this would
- 46:24Speaker 8: be met Chin.
- 46:26Speaker 5: But I mean in terms of Bailey winning it or out,
- 46:29Speaker 5: I think everyone's going to get a chance with it
- 46:30Speaker 5: at some point, just to the or the ones that
- 46:34Speaker 5: they want to be grand slat. You know, Becky will
- 46:37Speaker 5: get it and Charlotte will get it, and you know,
- 46:39Speaker 5: just say that they have everything. Yeah, will eventually have it.
- 46:45Speaker 5: If she doesn't, if she isn't the first one, you
- 46:47Speaker 5: will eventually have it.
- 46:50Speaker 8: Do that down the line like they Yeah, like when
- 46:53Speaker 8: seen It had his second or his late US title
- 46:56Speaker 8: run which was highly praised. You can do it then,
- 47:01Speaker 8: but don't don't don't start off that way that I
- 47:05Speaker 8: don't want. This isn't like the World heavyweight title where
- 47:08Speaker 8: you needed a big name attached to it. To establish
- 47:11Speaker 8: it as a legitimate title, as a legitimate top title.
- 47:14Speaker 8: You don't need a top name to establish this one
- 47:16Speaker 8: as a top title. I don't think that's That's not
- 47:18Speaker 8: what this is meant to be. This is meant to be,
- 47:21Speaker 8: you know, the next person up, the up and coming title.
- 47:25Speaker 1: Speaking of the title, LA Knights United States title, it
- 47:29Speaker 1: is awful looking. They put like the LA logo like
- 47:32Speaker 1: a million times on the strap. I was like, what
- 47:37Speaker 1: the just start? Yeah, he must have just started. Yeah
- 47:41Speaker 1: it's recent.
- 47:42Speaker 6: I just noticed it.
- 47:45Speaker 1: Was like, No, man like I like the I like
- 47:47Speaker 1: the inner cameral title, got the blue in it. I
- 47:49Speaker 1: love it. It reminds me of the version from the
- 47:53Speaker 1: adage here and uh, you know, I like when they
- 47:57Speaker 1: changed the strap color or they have their own custom
- 47:59Speaker 1: side plates. But La Night No, this goes right up
- 48:04Speaker 1: there with the glowing title that Naomi had, the spinning
- 48:08Speaker 1: title that John Cena had thed, the biodegradable title, that
- 48:16Speaker 1: fucking the title that Daniel Brian had. I the twenty
- 48:22Speaker 1: four to seven title I think was atrocious looking. Like
- 48:24Speaker 1: we should have an episode where we just talk about
- 48:27Speaker 1: the worst titles and the best looking titles. Never doubt,
- 48:33Speaker 1: Oh my god, why because you fucking probably can roll
- 48:37Speaker 1: up and smoke it. It's Oh my god, I bet
- 48:45Speaker 1: it was itchy.
- 48:47Speaker 6: It was great for the story. It made a lot
- 48:49Speaker 6: of sense.
- 48:50Speaker 1: It was great for the story, and it was only
- 48:52Speaker 1: good for him because I forget who beat him for it,
- 48:55Speaker 1: that Kofi Covid. And they had a replacement title, like
- 48:59Speaker 1: a better one, like the New Day brought out like
- 49:02Speaker 1: a real VW title, like yeah, dude, we're not gonna
- 49:06Speaker 1: let Kobe Mania be with this thing like burn it. Well.
- 49:12Speaker 1: With that said, with the United States title for the
- 49:13Speaker 1: women's I don't know if it's gonna be a floater
- 49:17Speaker 1: title or if it's going to be a SmackDown exclusive,
- 49:21Speaker 1: But if it is, maybe this is the testing of
- 49:25Speaker 1: the water to maybe a women's intercontinental title too much,
- 49:32Speaker 1: one would think, too Yeah.
- 49:35Speaker 6: I don't think. I think it would be a year
- 49:37Speaker 6: or two maybe.
- 49:39Speaker 3: Yeah. I mean that seem to make much sense.
- 49:41Speaker 8: They have this tournament with all SmackDown stars, completely lock
- 49:46Speaker 8: out the raw women's roster and.
- 49:48Speaker 3: Just be like, where's all make a title? Fuck y'all.
- 49:51Speaker 8: Yeah, obviously at some point they're getting it. I guess
- 49:54Speaker 8: they're just staggering, though, so that way all the attention
- 49:58Speaker 8: can be on this US title.
- 50:00Speaker 1: Now oh yeah for sales, yeah.
- 50:03Speaker 8: Yeah, focused all the attention on this one, and then come,
- 50:06Speaker 8: I don't know, next year with the Women's Inner Continental
- 50:10Speaker 8: Championship and that one maybe gets crowned at Elimination Chamber
- 50:14Speaker 8: or some ship.
- 50:18Speaker 11: Yeah yeah, let me see here. Uh oh, I've been
- 50:27Speaker 11: waiting to play this button.
- 50:29Speaker 3: Where is?
- 50:31Speaker 11: Uh ha ha ha.
- 50:37Speaker 1: Well, in regal war Games so far, we only have
- 50:39Speaker 1: three matches. We have uh Gunter the World Champion versus
- 50:45Speaker 1: Damion Priest, so they're gonna He's gonna get his rematch.
- 50:49Speaker 4: Uh.
- 50:49Speaker 1: And then we have Ria Bianca, Jay Cargol, Naomi Eo
- 50:54Speaker 1: Sky versus The Judgment Days, Living Morgan or Calvarrad Veguez,
- 51:00Speaker 1: Nia Jack's, Tiffany Stratton and Candice Larray and the Women's
- 51:03Speaker 1: War Game match the Men's War a Game match. So
- 51:07Speaker 1: far we have Roman Reigns and Jay Usso, Jimmy Usso
- 51:17Speaker 1: Jay and Jimmy, Sammy Zane and t b A versus
- 51:22Speaker 1: the Bloodline, the current blood Line solos CoA, Jacob Fatu,
- 51:26Speaker 1: Tama Tunga and Tunga Loa and the new edition Bronson
- 51:31Speaker 1: Reed that I look Samoan, but I'm really Australian, right,
- 51:39Speaker 1: I thought he was Samoan, like a little Samoan.
- 51:42Speaker 3: He's not from the island of.
- 51:45Speaker 1: He's from an island all right.
- 51:50Speaker 8: In there island and obviously not part of the yeah the.
- 51:53Speaker 3: Family or the Isawaii family. But I guess he's.
- 51:57Speaker 1: Half yeah South Australian and it says here but that
- 52:03Speaker 1: frost Australian soufish.
- 52:05Speaker 3: Wow. Either way, he damn show looks the part.
- 52:08Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, yeah, damn old.
- 52:10Speaker 8: Blood lined and fucking Tongo Loa. Yep, like Bronston Reed
- 52:14Speaker 8: came out there and started wrecking shopping. Everybody would just
- 52:17Speaker 8: look at it, like this makes so much sense. Yeah,
- 52:23Speaker 8: he did more from making them look legitimate than Toma
- 52:26Speaker 8: Tonga or Tonga Loa did. Like they look like a
- 52:30Speaker 8: legitimate threat just solo Jacob and Bronson Red like them
- 52:36Speaker 8: three motherfuckers are like, oh okay, you don't want to
- 52:39Speaker 8: fuck with them, And then Toma Tonga and Togo low
- 52:42Speaker 8: are just kind of there.
- 52:43Speaker 1: Yeah, but yeah, Jacob far Too and and Bronson read
- 52:47Speaker 1: together as like some sort of team up. That's that's
- 52:50Speaker 1: that's a nasty, fucking team mess with like.
- 52:53Speaker 8: Ship, Like, I don't know what it's gonna take to
- 52:55Speaker 8: get I don't know what they gotta do after this,
- 52:56Speaker 8: but he the match doesn't even happen yet.
- 52:59Speaker 3: I fel like you should stay with them after war right, Yeah,
- 53:03Speaker 3: why wouldn't you just.
- 53:05Speaker 8: You know, being shafted on fucking Intercontinental title runs and
- 53:09Speaker 8: all stuff.
- 53:10Speaker 3: Fucking stay in the Bloodline.
- 53:12Speaker 1: I you know what though, I think so I see
- 53:15Speaker 1: something like that happening because like this man, look look
- 53:18Speaker 1: where he's positioned. I mean, adds Seth Rawllans to the
- 53:21Speaker 1: photo the picture, because he's been you know, dealing it
- 53:26Speaker 1: up with Seth Rollins, you know, doing a storyline with him.
- 53:29Speaker 1: And we did talk last pay per view that you know,
- 53:31Speaker 1: we could see this feud continuing and this kind of
- 53:34Speaker 1: keeps on the backburn until after this, after war Games.
- 53:38Speaker 1: But yeah, I agree, like this guy is besides, like
- 53:44Speaker 1: you know, the newer Bloodline members, this is pretty big
- 53:48Speaker 1: for him. I mean, you're being thrown in the middle
- 53:51Speaker 1: of a big storyline. You're very fortunate.
- 53:55Speaker 8: So and I haven't heard a single complaint about him
- 53:59Speaker 8: joining in either.
- 54:00Speaker 3: Nope, just been like yep, makes sense.
- 54:04Speaker 1: Yeah, And I was watching it, and I was watching
- 54:07Speaker 1: one of my friends and I'm just like, I know
- 54:09Speaker 1: they're gonna add somebody tonight, but like I honestly like
- 54:12Speaker 1: I can't think of who I'd be happy with. And
- 54:15Speaker 1: I was thinking myself like maybe this person, maybe that,
- 54:17Speaker 1: Like nah, fuck this, fuck that, And then Bronston Reed
- 54:19Speaker 1: came out. I was just like, you know what, Okay,
- 54:24Speaker 1: I'm not gonna complain.
- 54:26Speaker 3: I'm good, So I'm here for it.
- 54:31Speaker 5: Yeah, this is what they've been building a monk for
- 54:33Speaker 5: for the last couple of months.
- 54:34Speaker 3: Really, and here's the payoff.
- 54:37Speaker 8: And I mean, if one thing I would, we would
- 54:39Speaker 8: I can give Vince credit for is if he's when
- 54:43Speaker 8: he stumbled upon something that seemed to work, even if
- 54:47Speaker 8: it wasn't playing that way. But if he just happened to, like,
- 54:49Speaker 8: you know, hit some magic or strike or catch that
- 54:53Speaker 8: light in the bottle, he would be quick to pivot
- 54:55Speaker 8: and roll with it like he was stumbled upon something
- 54:59Speaker 8: like oh shit, wait this is working.
- 55:01Speaker 3: People like this run with that ship. Yeah.
- 55:05Speaker 8: It's tbd all whether Triple H will could do that,
- 55:09Speaker 8: but I think Bronson read and bloodline two point zero
- 55:12Speaker 8: is something they should absolutely run with.
- 55:17Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean and and like I said on paper,
- 55:20Speaker 5: Oug bloodline, should you know five or four first ballot
- 55:25Speaker 5: Hall of Famers, you know, versus.
- 55:28Speaker 6: Two duficcees h.
- 55:31Speaker 5: A guy that's you know, pretty dangerous looking and a
- 55:34Speaker 5: guy that's yeah, all right, Uh. And I think Bronson
- 55:38Speaker 5: reads definitely adds an air of credibility to them that
- 55:42Speaker 5: they were.
- 55:42Speaker 6: Lacking level of dangerousness. If you will, uh, you know,
- 55:48Speaker 6: everything saying Seth Seth, Seth, Seth Seth. But I am
- 55:52Speaker 6: not one hundred convinced it ends up being Seth.
- 55:56Speaker 5: I think if it is, it'll be like a smoke screen,
- 56:01Speaker 5: like they're gonna run it's Seth gonna turn on rom
- 56:04Speaker 5: and it's Seth gonna turn you know, when it's really
- 56:06Speaker 5: gonna be Sammy's ay and that's that you know, sticks
- 56:08Speaker 5: a knife. But I could see a scenario where, like
- 56:12Speaker 5: they say, it's you know, Seth finally agrees to it,
- 56:14Speaker 5: and then maybe during the pre show Survivors series Braston
- 56:18Speaker 5: Red lays him out or something right, and we finally
- 56:22Speaker 5: got a hold of Paul Hayman, and Paul Hayman's bringing
- 56:24Speaker 5: in the Punker or something like that, because he's still
- 56:26Speaker 5: we haven't seen him.
- 56:27Speaker 3: For a while.
- 56:28Speaker 6: He's due for a triumphant return. Uh you know a
- 56:32Speaker 6: year to the day when he made his last triumphant return. Uh,
- 56:37Speaker 6: it's just in the back of my head somewhere. I
- 56:39Speaker 6: don't know if you know that's my faus booking.
- 56:41Speaker 3: I guess sure.
- 56:42Speaker 8: I mean, if we, if we could, it's I wouldn't
- 56:46Speaker 8: have one hundred rule that out. Paul Haymen brings in
- 56:49Speaker 8: a Paul Hayman guy. But yeah, see him, Punk ain't
- 56:53Speaker 8: the only Paul Hayman guy.
- 57:00Speaker 3: All right, So move on to the next topic.
- 57:04Speaker 1: Right back.
- 57:04Speaker 8: No, I mean, if we, if we would really wanted
- 57:07Speaker 8: to reach forward, just imagine, you know, Paul Hayman comes
- 57:12Speaker 8: out like they can't find anybody to join them, and
- 57:16Speaker 8: it's looking like it's just gonna be a four on five,
- 57:19Speaker 8: and then it's four on five. They're getting stopped out
- 57:22Speaker 8: in there, they're getting the dog shit be out of them.
- 57:25Speaker 8: All of a sudden, Paul Hayman walks out. They all
- 57:28Speaker 8: stopped there looking at Paul and then fucking brock Lesner's
- 57:32Speaker 8: music hits.
- 57:33Speaker 1: Oh dude, I didn't even think about that. I'm over
- 57:39Speaker 1: here thinking.
- 57:39Speaker 3: Like, imagine the fucking.
- 57:42Speaker 1: Dude. You just made me pop right now if I
- 57:45Speaker 1: gotta shop on what the fuck is?
- 57:48Speaker 8: Oh man, I not going to no, no, no, But that.
- 57:56Speaker 1: Would be the place though for the pop. I mean mean,
- 58:00Speaker 1: didn't War Games last year? Wasn't that where Punk returned?
- 58:04Speaker 3: Yeah? Wen after the match?
- 58:07Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I know, But I mean this year
- 58:11Speaker 1: they could, they could do something similar. We would not
- 58:16Speaker 1: see that ship coming, Nobody would.
- 58:19Speaker 6: I think that's gonna be one hundred percent the Rock coming.
- 58:21Speaker 6: I think we get the Rock at the end of this.
- 58:24Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 58:25Speaker 8: I think he'll come out after the match, maybe for something,
- 58:29Speaker 8: but something after the match.
- 58:31Speaker 1: Doesn't it make absolute sense though that it would be
- 58:34Speaker 1: the Rock being the fifth person on.
- 58:38Speaker 4: Right.
- 58:38Speaker 1: You don't think so?
- 58:40Speaker 3: Not after what he did after Bad Blood. Oh yeah,
- 58:43Speaker 3: that's right, when Cody.
- 58:45Speaker 8: And Roman were in this celebrating and he came out
- 58:47Speaker 8: there and did the cutthroat thing.
- 58:51Speaker 5: Yeah, and then there was It was another one of
- 58:53Speaker 5: the social media things where like it wasn't They never
- 58:56Speaker 5: said anything about it on TV, but a viral video
- 58:58Speaker 5: spread A solo saying into the tongue, ands like this
- 59:01Speaker 5: is all part of the plan, you know.
- 59:04Speaker 8: Like if anything would make sense for the Rock to
- 59:06Speaker 8: come out. It'd be for him to come out so
- 59:09Speaker 8: further the beat down on the blood line. Yes, he
- 59:14Speaker 8: comes out, and maybe he he comes out, and maybe
- 59:18Speaker 8: he commands Sammy to turn, like somehow Rock got to
- 59:22Speaker 8: Sammy's aim and got him to turn. Sammy's working as
- 59:28Speaker 8: like a like a double Asier or something.
- 59:30Speaker 1: He's sent him that case of Teremunta.
- 59:32Speaker 6: The possibilities are endless.
- 59:34Speaker 5: Oh yeah, yeah, I could walk he declares him off
- 59:37Speaker 5: a sixth member, right, because he's on the board and
- 59:39Speaker 5: he can.
- 59:39Speaker 6: Do whatever the hell he wants. I could see something
- 59:43Speaker 6: like that, like we might see some wacky stuff.
- 59:47Speaker 8: Yeah, it's just it also a matter of how far
- 59:50Speaker 8: down do they want to beat the bloodline of the
- 59:53Speaker 8: og blood line before their eventual triumph, right, how far down.
- 59:59Speaker 3: Or the the world do they go?
- 1:00:03Speaker 8: Anyway, as long as I get my sam he's ain't betrayal.
- 1:00:05Speaker 3: I'm happy.
- 1:00:06Speaker 1: Yeah yeah for something that's not gonna happen.
- 1:00:14Speaker 6: And there's a real good chance of that.
- 1:00:19Speaker 1: Man, Like I said, you get me all excited. I
- 1:00:24Speaker 1: know it's not going to happen.
- 1:00:27Speaker 8: Because the thing is, something has to happen for Roman
- 1:00:31Speaker 8: because part of that's this is not just about you know,
- 1:00:34Speaker 8: these guys versus that guys.
- 1:00:36Speaker 3: Part of the story is also.
- 1:00:38Speaker 8: A redemption of sorts for Roman, because yeah, he's getting
- 1:00:42Speaker 8: the pops and all stuff, but he's still essentially acting
- 1:00:44Speaker 8: like the same guy as he was before.
- 1:00:47Speaker 3: There's still I'm the alpha, I'm the main event. I'm
- 1:00:50Speaker 3: the top guy.
- 1:00:51Speaker 8: You know, Even to a certain extent after what Jay
- 1:00:54Speaker 8: and them said, like yo, we in here, we as
- 1:00:56Speaker 8: equals and our stuff, they're still a little bit being betrayed.
- 1:00:59Speaker 8: Like Roman is the center of attention of it all,
- 1:01:03Speaker 8: which I mean, I understand it.
- 1:01:05Speaker 3: You know, he's top guy in the company and all.
- 1:01:07Speaker 8: But there's at some point he has to he should
- 1:01:11Speaker 8: have to or he should be forced to come to
- 1:01:14Speaker 8: terms with what he's did in his past mm hmm,
- 1:01:19Speaker 8: and at some point he should have to in some
- 1:01:22Speaker 8: way or another make amends for that. To a certain extent,
- 1:01:27Speaker 8: I'm still kind of, you know, disappointed that he hasn't.
- 1:01:30Speaker 8: He seemingly hasn't fully done that with uh what you
- 1:01:35Speaker 8: call it, with the.
- 1:01:37Speaker 3: With Jay.
- 1:01:37Speaker 1: And though he just doesn't, he hasn't as one person
- 1:01:44Speaker 1: to acknowledge him, not one person did he go we've
- 1:01:50Speaker 1: been waiting for it the continent. Do you want to
- 1:01:55Speaker 1: acknowledge solo though? Damn, Dre, you got me all excited
- 1:02:01Speaker 1: for wrestlers not going to show up. I'm expecting, you know,
- 1:02:05Speaker 1: that beat down, that fucking beatdown man, And then Paul
- 1:02:08Speaker 1: Haymon comes out and just I was like, oh my god,
- 1:02:17Speaker 1: I just lose my shit. That ain't gonna happen.
- 1:02:21Speaker 3: No, that's damn sure not gonna happen.
- 1:02:23Speaker 8: Because if Lessard's in there, then, oh no, as much
- 1:02:27Speaker 8: as they love to protect Lesler, only a select few
- 1:02:29Speaker 8: can win over him. So there's no way that blood
- 1:02:32Speaker 8: Line two point oh wins of Lessons in that match.
- 1:02:34Speaker 1: He's like, I'm gonna bring in to Paul Haymon, guys,
- 1:02:37Speaker 1: Michael McGillicuddy and right back.
- 1:02:41Speaker 3: Oh god.
- 1:02:42Speaker 8: And I know we haven't done a preview episode yet,
- 1:02:44Speaker 8: but are we all generally in the belief that blood
- 1:02:46Speaker 8: Line two point oh was probably still gonna win?
- 1:02:53Speaker 3: Yeah?
- 1:02:54Speaker 1: Kind of. Right now, I'm feeling it. I'm feeling it
- 1:02:58Speaker 1: because this doubt add that Doyle put in my heart
- 1:03:02Speaker 1: and soul. Now with fucking Sammy's ain, fuck Samu's ain.
- 1:03:06Speaker 1: We don't know the fifth member. I don't know, man,
- 1:03:09Speaker 1: it's raining cats and dogs. It's fucking crazy. Vince is
- 1:03:12Speaker 1: shitting on people.
- 1:03:14Speaker 6: I mean.
- 1:03:18Speaker 1: Yeah, uh, I do have another topic I want to
- 1:03:21Speaker 1: move on to, but I'm afraid it might trigger some people,
- 1:03:25Speaker 1: especially you guys. I want to talk about some Jake
- 1:03:29Speaker 1: Paul and Logan Paul news.
- 1:03:32Speaker 7: Ah.
- 1:03:34Speaker 1: Apparently WWE is interested in putting Mike Tyson and Logan
- 1:03:38Speaker 1: Paul together for WrestleMania forty one in some way, shape
- 1:03:41Speaker 1: or form, I guess, because you know, the boys got
- 1:03:49Speaker 1: their Jake Paul and Mike Tyson. Now the men can
- 1:03:54Speaker 1: get the Logan Paul and the Mike Tyson. Do we
- 1:03:59Speaker 1: need it nah? Do we want it?
- 1:04:03Speaker 3: Nah?
- 1:04:04Speaker 1: Are we gonna get it? Probably?
- 1:04:07Speaker 3: Hopefully not?
- 1:04:08Speaker 1: Hopefully not. Could it be a halftime show at WrestleMania probably?
- 1:04:13Speaker 4: Uh?
- 1:04:14Speaker 1: But uh yeah.
- 1:04:17Speaker 5: Also he was involved around uh you know what was
- 1:04:21Speaker 5: the WrestleMania fourteen.
- 1:04:23Speaker 1: Yeah, if he had been.
- 1:04:24Speaker 6: More involved than you're talking now, now you have me interested,
- 1:04:29Speaker 6: you know what I mean?
- 1:04:30Speaker 3: Yeah?
- 1:04:31Speaker 5: That that old man I saw fighting with his bare
- 1:04:35Speaker 5: ass out. I don't want to see him doing anything
- 1:04:40Speaker 5: physical like I don't know if if he's in a
- 1:04:44Speaker 5: skit or something maybe Yeah, in ring skits are so
- 1:04:48Speaker 5: stupid and kill a show. I think at these things
- 1:04:50Speaker 5: so like, I don't know, I don't want to see
- 1:04:52Speaker 5: him in Logan Paul professional wrestle, that's for sure. And
- 1:04:55Speaker 5: I'm sure I don't want to see him do some
- 1:04:57Speaker 5: worked uh you know, boxing match or something that will
- 1:05:03Speaker 5: be fucking a training bap also uh so yeah, I
- 1:05:07Speaker 5: think for those reasons, I'm out.
- 1:05:09Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 1:05:09Speaker 8: And the thing about and the bad thing is like
- 1:05:11Speaker 8: with the at least in the WWE, he can be protected,
- 1:05:14Speaker 8: is still look good and look strong as opposed to
- 1:05:17Speaker 8: being completely exposed in a real boxing match as the
- 1:05:20Speaker 8: old man that he is. But I still just no,
- 1:05:26Speaker 8: I just know I'm good on it. I don't need
- 1:05:29Speaker 8: to see him do anything unless he's gonna come out.
- 1:05:32Speaker 5: Wrest So it's not like, uh, it's a skill set
- 1:05:35Speaker 5: he had thirty years ago and he's you know, like.
- 1:05:37Speaker 6: Right what you're gonna see with Goldberg you know who
- 1:05:40Speaker 6: you could argue doesn't have to wrestle either, But that's
- 1:05:43Speaker 6: another topic. Uh, you know, like at least he's done it,
- 1:05:46Speaker 6: he's been there, he's.
- 1:05:47Speaker 5: You know, so like it's less of the stretch for
- 1:05:50Speaker 5: you know that old man, I think to get in
- 1:05:52Speaker 5: a ring and do a professional wrestling match, and it
- 1:05:54Speaker 5: is for Mike Tyson has never done that.
- 1:05:56Speaker 8: Right, And let like damnsel don't want to see Mike and
- 1:05:59Speaker 8: no kind of match like or anything. If he can't
- 1:06:03Speaker 8: come out there, it needs to be something gimmicky, whether
- 1:06:06Speaker 8: he just come The only thing I want to see
- 1:06:08Speaker 8: Mike do is come out there still on. Somebody drop
- 1:06:11Speaker 8: them and that's it.
- 1:06:13Speaker 5: Yeah, we don't need to see Big show Floyd at
- 1:06:17Speaker 5: point zero.
- 1:06:17Speaker 6: That was a training mac off.
- 1:06:19Speaker 3: I hope we don't. I don't even know if I
- 1:06:21Speaker 3: want to.
- 1:06:21Speaker 8: I don't even know if I want to see Mike
- 1:06:22Speaker 8: Tyson do a special guest referee anymore because at this point,
- 1:06:25Speaker 8: because he.
- 1:06:26Speaker 3: Can't really move like that.
- 1:06:27Speaker 8: Yeah, no, I want to see him limping around the rings,
- 1:06:30Speaker 8: struggling to keep up with these with like Logan, Paul
- 1:06:33Speaker 8: and somebody else when they do all his high fla
- 1:06:34Speaker 8: stuff and he's just standing out to the side, freaking
- 1:06:38Speaker 8: out of breath and ship hanging out. It was taking
- 1:06:41Speaker 8: a five count just to get down to make a
- 1:06:43Speaker 8: three count.
- 1:06:47Speaker 1: Well, do I think we all know we had the
- 1:06:50Speaker 1: Netflix issues with the buffering issues the tail quality, but
- 1:06:55Speaker 1: there was one point where it was buffering for me.
- 1:06:57Speaker 1: And I literally got into that promo where he was
- 1:07:01Speaker 1: talking to the interview and he walked away and his
- 1:07:03Speaker 1: asses hanging out, and I was laughing so fucking hard
- 1:07:08Speaker 1: because I was thinking, like, this is some shit wwe
- 1:07:12Speaker 1: would do, you know what I mean, Like this is
- 1:07:14Speaker 1: the kind of humor like we would see in Like
- 1:07:16Speaker 1: the attitude there that's fucking dying. I was like, is
- 1:07:20Speaker 1: this fucking real? Like is this real life? Am I
- 1:07:23Speaker 1: watching this?
- 1:07:24Speaker 6: Uh?
- 1:07:26Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know. I'm not I'm not a boxing
- 1:07:30Speaker 1: expert by any means. I mean, I'm running We're running
- 1:07:33Speaker 1: a fucking wrestling podcast. So what what I used to
- 1:07:37Speaker 1: say about boxing, nobody gives two squirts a piss about
- 1:07:40Speaker 1: you know.
- 1:07:41Speaker 3: Uh.
- 1:07:42Speaker 1: I just like I watched all these training videos of
- 1:07:45Speaker 1: Mike Tyson, you know, leading up to this fight, you know,
- 1:07:48Speaker 1: and I understand that's him in the moment, that's not
- 1:07:51Speaker 1: him going eight rounds, but you know, I don't know.
- 1:07:55Speaker 1: The whole thing just was so stage. He felt so fake,
- 1:08:02Speaker 1: like he was just pulling his punches and.
- 1:08:08Speaker 6: You might buy, you're buying the Paul stage.
- 1:08:13Speaker 1: I just given by the fights I saw, because I
- 1:08:16Speaker 1: did watch all of them. I watched them all. I
- 1:08:19Speaker 1: don't know the names of these people. The women's was
- 1:08:23Speaker 1: aggressive as fuck, and we got none of that from
- 1:08:26Speaker 1: this match.
- 1:08:26Speaker 3: And you know exactly because.
- 1:08:31Speaker 1: I know, I know I and like I said it before,
- 1:08:35Speaker 1: like j Paul gained nothing out of this. If he
- 1:08:38Speaker 1: would have lost, he would have lost to a fifty
- 1:08:41Speaker 1: something year old guy who hasn't wrestled boxed in twenty years.
- 1:08:44Speaker 1: There I go saying wrestled. Uh, and you know he won. Congrats,
- 1:08:49Speaker 1: you'd be a guy who is in his late fifties
- 1:08:51Speaker 1: who hasn't boxed in twenty plus years.
- 1:08:55Speaker 6: But well, here's how you know it.
- 1:08:58Speaker 1: Go for it. I want to hear it, Doyle. It
- 1:09:01Speaker 1: would have been entertaining, fucking right, I guess. I guess
- 1:09:06Speaker 1: you're right.
- 1:09:08Speaker 3: Had been staged, they could have.
- 1:09:11Speaker 5: In the first round, you know, you know not, you know,
- 1:09:14Speaker 5: just it would have got right back up.
- 1:09:17Speaker 6: Uh, that would have been a little more back and forth.
- 1:09:19Speaker 5: Yeah, if it had been fake, it would have been
- 1:09:22Speaker 5: much more entertaining than it was.
- 1:09:25Speaker 3: Yeah. So it definitely was not stage. It was a
- 1:09:29Speaker 3: real fight.
- 1:09:30Speaker 8: However, I definitely believe that there was a gentleman's agreement
- 1:09:35Speaker 8: that they weren't going to actually try to hurt each.
- 1:09:39Speaker 1: Other to kill each other.
- 1:09:41Speaker 3: Yeah, they weren't going to actually try to hurt each other.
- 1:09:43Speaker 8: Now, granted, I don't think Mike had the ability to
- 1:09:46Speaker 8: do it like he did do.
- 1:09:49Speaker 3: I think he held back a little bit, maybe.
- 1:09:51Speaker 8: Because even because just from what we see of Mike
- 1:09:54Speaker 8: in the training videos, he seemed to have more gas
- 1:09:57Speaker 8: and nose than he did in that ring. It seemed
- 1:10:00Speaker 8: like Mike in the ring, he couldn't he didn't have
- 1:10:03Speaker 8: more than you know, ten seconds worth of burst in him, which, yeah,
- 1:10:08Speaker 8: Mike old, but come on, you could do more than that.
- 1:10:12Speaker 8: And I think Jake Paul definitely probably could have knocked
- 1:10:16Speaker 8: Mike the fuck out if he if he were, if
- 1:10:19Speaker 8: he really wasn't holding back, as much as I really
- 1:10:22Speaker 8: hate to fucking say that, man, definitely till at a
- 1:10:25Speaker 8: certain point, Jake Paul could have landed any shot he
- 1:10:28Speaker 8: wanted at will. It was deliberately not throwing punches to
- 1:10:33Speaker 8: not hurt Mike or to not knock Mike out. I
- 1:10:37Speaker 8: think if he really I think if Jake had really
- 1:10:38Speaker 8: wanted to knock Mike out, the way Mike looked in
- 1:10:41Speaker 8: that ring.
- 1:10:41Speaker 3: He could have done it.
- 1:10:43Speaker 8: He could have just laid on the fucking punches, and
- 1:10:46Speaker 8: I don't think he would have had any fear of
- 1:10:49Speaker 8: getting caught with one from Mike, because I don't think Mike.
- 1:10:54Speaker 8: They say, obviously, power never goes away, So I'm not
- 1:10:57Speaker 8: questioning Mike's power. But if he ain't have his legs
- 1:11:02Speaker 8: or he ain't you know, have that in him to
- 1:11:05Speaker 8: try to do it, then yeah, he wasn't.
- 1:11:08Speaker 3: He wasn't gonna happen.
- 1:11:10Speaker 8: So I think they both just had a gentleman's agreement
- 1:11:12Speaker 8: to hold back on each other, more so on Jake
- 1:11:15Speaker 8: Paul's and than on Mike's end.
- 1:11:17Speaker 1: Okay, I want to hear some of your input on
- 1:11:20Speaker 1: this then.
- 1:11:23Speaker 6: What you my my back my analysis of the match itself,
- 1:11:29Speaker 6: you know, because.
- 1:11:29Speaker 1: I here's the thing is we talk about wrestling lot.
- 1:11:32Speaker 1: I want to hear you guys have more opinion on
- 1:11:34Speaker 1: this boxing match overall.
- 1:11:36Speaker 6: Well.
- 1:11:36Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean that's why I think it was a
- 1:11:37Speaker 5: real fight, because if it wasn't, you know, we watched
- 1:11:40Speaker 5: we watched staged fighting all the time. Yeah, I mean
- 1:11:45Speaker 5: there was there were shots that I think Paul could
- 1:11:48Speaker 5: have taken.
- 1:11:48Speaker 6: But then there are shots Mike could have taken.
- 1:11:50Speaker 3: I think.
- 1:11:53Speaker 6: But yeah, I mean he was he was tripped on
- 1:11:55Speaker 6: the way to the ring. You know, it's not a
- 1:11:57Speaker 6: good side.
- 1:11:58Speaker 5: Uh. He looked really looked really top heavy, like like
- 1:12:03Speaker 5: I don't know, his legs weren't under him.
- 1:12:05Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 1:12:06Speaker 6: Yeah, And I.
- 1:12:07Speaker 1: Think is there every port blood fusion done or something
- 1:12:10Speaker 1: like that beforehand? But that he had some sort of
- 1:12:15Speaker 1: he said he almost died before his box.
- 1:12:18Speaker 6: He did a couple of months ago. He had some
- 1:12:21Speaker 6: health issue that I'm not really clear what happened. Said
- 1:12:24Speaker 6: something about he lost half his blood or something.
- 1:12:27Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what I don't think. Who knows?
- 1:12:30Speaker 3: You're right? I don't know how legit that was. Obviously
- 1:12:32Speaker 3: he broke Mike time.
- 1:12:34Speaker 1: Yo, Spinal, Wait, do you guys like Wagrad, do you
- 1:12:39Speaker 1: guys mean this? What was the problem?
- 1:12:42Speaker 3: I broke my back? What do you mean by that?
- 1:12:44Speaker 3: He broke back and broken what a vertebrae or a blood?
- 1:12:47Speaker 3: Martial Spinal?
- 1:12:49Speaker 12: I would do my fit up twenty five hundred a
- 1:12:51Speaker 12: day of my twenty pounds weight, and one day I
- 1:12:54Speaker 12: couldn't move anymore, and I exactly doctor was wrong, he said,
- 1:12:59Speaker 12: I believe it.
- 1:13:00Speaker 3: I was wearing his back, his growth.
- 1:13:01Speaker 1: Excly, that's fucking great that I had that queued up
- 1:13:06Speaker 1: and then we brought that ship up. I starre in
- 1:13:09Speaker 1: the conversation towards that, and I was like, don brought up.
- 1:13:12Speaker 1: I was like, fucking perfect, my back, my final Could
- 1:13:17Speaker 1: you imagine a promo with him at Cody Rhoades, Oh god,
- 1:13:23Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I'm sorry. Oh man, you know Cody just
- 1:13:34Speaker 1: be like, what do.
- 1:13:35Speaker 4: You guys want to talk about?
- 1:13:37Speaker 1: My back? My spine.
- 1:13:42Speaker 8: I know a lot of people are have been complaining
- 1:13:45Speaker 8: about obviously all the buffering and streaming issues that they
- 1:13:48Speaker 8: had talk about that is that going to translate to Raw?
- 1:13:55Speaker 3: Short answer, though it's not going to translate.
- 1:13:58Speaker 8: Is not going to draw nowhere near the traffic that
- 1:14:02Speaker 8: this fight did. Like this fight did more like freaking
- 1:14:07Speaker 8: Netflix has had bangers shows over the years, and when
- 1:14:10Speaker 8: those big things drop, they do huge numbers like Stranger Things.
- 1:14:15Speaker 8: Like Raw is not going to draw this amount of
- 1:14:17Speaker 8: traffic that Stranger Things premiering would draw. So if Netflix
- 1:14:23Speaker 8: can handle that, then they can damn show handle an
- 1:14:26Speaker 8: episode of Raw. And I don't think the fact that
- 1:14:28Speaker 8: it's live is going to have any huge make a
- 1:14:31Speaker 8: big difference.
- 1:14:33Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 1:14:36Speaker 8: Yeah, I would say if they can get through the
- 1:14:37Speaker 8: premiere episode of Raw, which will probably be the biggest
- 1:14:41Speaker 8: one that they have, it'll probably be the biggest numbers
- 1:14:43Speaker 8: because it's the first and they're building it up that way.
- 1:14:45Speaker 3: If they can get through that one without a hitch,
- 1:14:47Speaker 3: they'll be fine.
- 1:14:48Speaker 5: Well, they also have another bite at the apple too,
- 1:14:50Speaker 5: because they're doing NFL right Christmas Day, I.
- 1:14:53Speaker 3: Think, yeah, yeah, yeah, and not no slouch games either.
- 1:14:58Speaker 8: Yeah, like significant, that's more, that's more more opportunity to
- 1:15:03Speaker 8: test whatever the fuck.
- 1:15:05Speaker 5: I have no idea they're there, if everything's in, I
- 1:15:10Speaker 5: don't know how these.
- 1:15:10Speaker 8: Things are right, and those probably and yeah, in those
- 1:15:13Speaker 8: NFL games won't do the numbers that this Jake Paul
- 1:15:16Speaker 8: might Tyson Fight did.
- 1:15:17Speaker 6: Yeah, but they they'll do big numbers.
- 1:15:19Speaker 3: Yeah, that's what And that's what I'm saying, Like, they'll
- 1:15:21Speaker 3: do big numbers. So if they cant.
- 1:15:23Speaker 6: Sixty million people or seven or whatever they're saying.
- 1:15:25Speaker 8: Right nowhere near as much as Tyson Paul Fight did,
- 1:15:29Speaker 8: but way more than Raw is gonna do. So if
- 1:15:32Speaker 8: they can get through Christmas without a hitch, then yeah,
- 1:15:34Speaker 8: they'll be fine for raw or they should be. Let
- 1:15:38Speaker 8: me say, let's hope so oh yeah, shoot, hell one
- 1:15:44Speaker 8: of them fucking games. Beyonce doing a halftime show. You
- 1:15:48Speaker 8: think motherfuckers was mad over the Paul fight and should
- 1:15:52Speaker 8: be in buffery. Let that motherfucker buffer in the middle
- 1:15:54Speaker 8: of Beyonce halftime show and see what to be high do.
- 1:16:01Speaker 3: That's what Netflix don't want.
- 1:16:03Speaker 8: It's a bunch of motherfucker's buzzing outside their corporate offices.
- 1:16:11Speaker 1: Well, I mean that's what I got for news. I
- 1:16:13Speaker 1: know what else. What else you guys wanted to talk about.
- 1:16:17Speaker 1: I don't know what else. If maybe you guys heard
- 1:16:19Speaker 1: something else in the news you want to bring up,
- 1:16:24Speaker 1: I don't know that. That's really all I got for
- 1:16:27Speaker 1: open mic.
- 1:16:30Speaker 8: H I see nothing else really going on other than
- 1:16:34Speaker 8: I mean, yeah, war games coming up in a couple
- 1:16:36Speaker 8: of weeks, which we got the teams, we know what
- 1:16:39Speaker 8: it is. We'll talk about that when that time comes.
- 1:16:42Speaker 3: The weekend.
- 1:16:43Speaker 1: There was just a little gap, you know, and I
- 1:16:46Speaker 1: was just like, man, I'm itching to talk some wrestling,
- 1:16:49Speaker 1: so especially that boxing match. I was just like, man,
- 1:16:54Speaker 1: I got we got to talk about this a little bit,
- 1:16:57Speaker 1: you know. I love these open mics. Nice short and sweet.
- 1:17:03Speaker 1: Uh tre you want to plug anything?
- 1:17:07Speaker 3: Nothing to plug at this moment. Just as always.
- 1:17:10Speaker 8: You can find me in the discord or you can
- 1:17:12Speaker 8: follow us on Instagram, dot com, slash PCW podcast.
- 1:17:17Speaker 1: Cool Doyle.
- 1:17:19Speaker 6: Oh you know, I'm just in the discord, and make
- 1:17:23Speaker 6: sure to like and follow the Facebook page.
- 1:17:27Speaker 1: Yeah, we got all social media platforms basically got covered.
- 1:17:32Speaker 1: And you know, I actually had a couple now that
- 1:17:36Speaker 1: I joined Facebook. I kind of been like, you know,
- 1:17:38Speaker 1: talking more people about our show, and a couple of
- 1:17:41Speaker 1: people have been We've actually had a couple more downloads,
- 1:17:44Speaker 1: a lot more downloads since and then some people ask
- 1:17:47Speaker 1: about our merch store and stuff. Even my neighbor asked
- 1:17:51Speaker 1: about merch and I was like, oh yeah, dude, like
- 1:17:53Speaker 1: and right now, I have two friends who are at
- 1:17:56Speaker 1: aw right now, and I was like, your sons a
- 1:17:59Speaker 1: bit as well. Let's get some shirts on you next time,
- 1:18:02Speaker 1: So get some advertisement out there. And I think it
- 1:18:07Speaker 1: might might be able to know somebody who can get
- 1:18:11Speaker 1: me some QR code stickers, I said, slapping them around places,
- 1:18:15Speaker 1: you know. So with that said, uh, that's it for me.
- 1:18:23Speaker 2: Damn you are the worlds dumbest sign up A bit
- 1:18:33Speaker 2: the fact.
- 1:18:33Speaker 9: That day in and day out, for almost six years,
- 1:18:36Speaker 9: I improved everybody in the world that I am the
- 1:18:40Speaker 9: best on this microphone and in that break and given
- 1:18:43Speaker 9: a commentary.
- 1:18:44Speaker 6: Nobody can touch me.
- 1:18:46Speaker 1: You are not Why.
- 1:18:51Speaker 2: Because they're straight puppet And we watch your talk about
- 1:19:01Speaker 2: your sons, talk about John three sixteen, I'm stead three sixteen.
- 1:19:06Speaker 1: Says I just whipped your ask.
- 1:19:10Speaker 3: Well, let me tell you fucking brothers.
- 1:19:15Speaker 6: Rock New Day.
- 1:19:22Speaker 3: Queen, raised to the top all year, my true madness.
- 1:19:27Speaker 6: Year, Welcome to the top, and Ohen show.
- 1:19:32Speaker 1: Lately he just hasn't been Harry Housey.
- 1:19:38Speaker 2: Because I'm know this.
- 1:19:41Speaker 3: And I'm oh so.
- 1:19:50Speaker 6: Those rotten bastes Bye bye, bit's
- 1:20:02Speaker 5: He