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When Government Breaks a State - Dennis Kneale #6402 · Financial Survival Network

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  Speaker 2: And welcome you are listening to and watching the Financial
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  Speaker 2: Survival Network. I'm your host, Carrie Lutz. Dennis Neil is
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  Speaker 2: with us now a new book out, and Dennis, who've
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  Speaker 2: done a lot of books before, but Oregoners, this could
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  Speaker 2: be your best one yet. Oregoners have one state chased
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  Speaker 2: away business and people. You know, when I think of Oregon,
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  Speaker 2: I always think of the logging industry, and you know
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  Speaker 2: Washington State, I think about it. But those industries have
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  Speaker 2: been stifled theough. Recently Trump has tried to revive them
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  Speaker 2: a bit.
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  Speaker 3: They've been crushed by regulations. I have a whole chapter,
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  Speaker 3: two chapters in my new book, Oregoners, How one state
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  Speaker 3: people and the devastation they did to the timber industry
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  Speaker 3: under the guise of wanting to protect a stupid bird,
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  Speaker 3: the spotted owl.
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  Speaker 4: Spotted owl. Yeah, it looked.
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  Speaker 3: At, well, what would happen if the spotted owl were
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  Speaker 3: to disappear? It turns out dozens and dozens of species
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  Speaker 3: disappear on the Earth every year. In fact, scientists say
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  Speaker 3: ninety nine point nine percent of all species that have
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  Speaker 3: ever inhabited the planet have gone extinct. But somehow in Oregon,
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  Speaker 3: saving this bird became paramount in the nineteen nineties using
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  Speaker 3: the Federal Endangered Species Act. It was so arrogant to
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  Speaker 3: think that we could honestly tackle nature and win, and
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  Speaker 3: so there were fourteen thousand spotted owls nineteen ninety when
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  Speaker 3: this all began. They devastated the industry. We became an
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  Speaker 3: and that importer of timber carrie because Oregon stopped logging
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  Speaker 3: on most of its land or a lot of its land,
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  Speaker 3: and we ended up in porting timber from Brazil because.
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  Speaker 4: Of these were in Brazil.
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  Speaker 3: And really, after all of that and destroying forty thousand jobs,
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  Speaker 3: it turns out in some timber counties today in goo's
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  Speaker 3: nonprofits employees sixteen percent of the job based because people
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  Speaker 3: can't find any other jobs there. After all of that,
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  Speaker 3: we went from fourteen thousand spotted owls to about twenty
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  Speaker 3: five hundred to day. What was it all for? It
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  Speaker 3: was frignant, My god, and it's incredible people who were
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  Speaker 3: doing it. They didn't care about the freaking owl. They
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  Speaker 3: wanted to stop logging, you know, and in order power
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  Speaker 3: move and they won. And look at Oregon today.
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  Speaker 4: I P.
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  Speaker 3: Twenty eight comes on the ballot in November, meaning it
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  Speaker 3: got enough signature is to actually be taken seriously. Initiative
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  Speaker 3: Proposal twenty eight would outlaw hunting fishing, would grant rights
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  Speaker 3: to not just cows and pigs, but also frog and fish.
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  Speaker 3: It would take castration on the ranch and artificial insemination
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  Speaker 3: of cows and horses and reclassify those acts as sexual
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  Speaker 3: abuse of the animal, sexual assault. It is stupidest law.
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  Speaker 3: It is, especially in the beautiful natural resources steak who's
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  Speaker 3: doing this peda of course, but in the thirty five
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  Speaker 3: thousand dollars donation from some guy leon and in Russia.
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  Speaker 5: It's just weird. And that's going to be on the
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  Speaker 5: ballots the Portland City Council four of.
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  Speaker 4: The do they do this? How does this happen America?
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  Speaker 5: They just voted.
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  Speaker 3: This is a city that has needs fifth percent more
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  Speaker 3: cops to get up to national average because it did
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  Speaker 3: defund the police. It's got creme, it's got over thirty
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  Speaker 3: percent downtown vacancy rate, it has real problems. That has
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  Speaker 3: the second highest tax rate in the country Portland does.
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  Speaker 5: But what as the city council do. Oh, they're about
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  Speaker 5: to pass the new.
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  Speaker 3: Law banning foi gras because that's really where the important
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  Speaker 3: issues are today.
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  Speaker 4: While the city is the universe, do they live in it?
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  Speaker 5: It's just you know what it is. They're so insane.
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  Speaker 3: It's been a Democrat super majority for ten or twenty years.
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  Speaker 3: They don't need Republicans at all. The Republicans are only
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  Speaker 3: happy to play number two and feed it the same troth.
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  Speaker 3: And when you're in an instan's asylum for that long,
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  Speaker 3: you no longer can recognize sanity. The Rosenhaun experiment proved
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  Speaker 3: this in the nineteen seventies. They put regular saying people,
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  Speaker 3: including psychiatrists in eleven insane asylums, and the doctor there
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  Speaker 3: have we're unable to detect sane people.
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  Speaker 4: That's what's happened in Oregon.
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  Speaker 2: So the inmates are, in other words, running the asylum.
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  Speaker 4: Well, that's another way to look at it.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, but this is no The doctors don't even know
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  Speaker 3: which people sh shouldn't be inmates, because they just no
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  Speaker 3: longer even recognize that. And and I just can't even
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  Speaker 3: believe that they've gotten away with this in Oregon, the
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  Speaker 3: Democrat Party, and I guess that littered it that jerrymandering
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  Speaker 3: helps because there's only one out of five congressmen in
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  Speaker 3: Oregon who are who is Republican. And yet forty of
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  Speaker 3: the voters in Oregon are Republican. And it turns out
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  Speaker 3: that Donald Trump in twenty four got four votes then
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  Speaker 3: governor Democrat Governor Tina Kotek got to win election in.
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  Speaker 4: Twenty twenty two in the state.
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  Speaker 3: And yet how the districting stuff, the jerrymandering stuff right intentionally,
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  Speaker 3: you know, although it's not out of race, it's out
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  Speaker 3: of party in this case. And so the Supreme Court
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  Speaker 3: would say that's allowed.
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  Speaker 2: Right, Well, you know, that was a crazy decision. I
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  Speaker 2: don't quite understand it myself, but.
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  Speaker 3: Well speak based on the same court said a frontive action, No,
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  Speaker 3: you're not allowed to let in less qualified blacks just
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  Speaker 3: because they're black. And some others say you're not allowed
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  Speaker 3: to district congressionally just because they're black. I mean, it's
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  Speaker 3: a kind of a consistent ruling there. It's just that
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  Speaker 3: the nation elected a black president. We don't need black
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  Speaker 3: I mean, I agree with it. Black politicians. We elected
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  Speaker 3: plenty of black politicians.
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  Speaker 4: I think that.
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  Speaker 3: Their membership in Congress might be right up to the
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  Speaker 3: national average as a portion of the population by now, right,
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  Speaker 3: So do you that's I'll be so happy to see
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  Speaker 3: black candidates win in a district that is mixed race
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  Speaker 3: and not just a black district.
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  Speaker 5: That that's really great.
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  Speaker 4: That's a good thing to see.
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  Speaker 3: Have some faith in They're not as racist as the
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  Speaker 3: old the people have been arguing for ten or twenty years.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, it's disgusting.
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  Speaker 2: Like in Florida, we're probably going to elect Byron Donald's
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  Speaker 2: as the next governor of the state because the best
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  Speaker 2: governor in the country, DeSantis, is term limitted. But nonetheless,
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  Speaker 2: last time I looked he was he was black, and
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  Speaker 2: I'm voting for him, so right, exactly, I'm not a
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  Speaker 2: racist after all, exactly, I'll tell you.
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  Speaker 3: Since moving down to Sofla South Florida in the game,
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  Speaker 3: after forty plus years in Brooklyn, I'm pretty impressed with
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  Speaker 3: the state government, and I am never impressed with any
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  Speaker 3: government Okay. I think government is a hindrance. I think
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  Speaker 3: government is often a really bad thing. And yet I
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  Speaker 3: you know, before I left Brooklyn, I had to get
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  Speaker 3: that new ID, real ID.
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  Speaker 4: We have to bring it all kinds of right, yeah,
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  Speaker 4: because I won't let you check in different things, you know.
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  Speaker 3: And I had a new an appointment in Brooklyn. So
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  Speaker 3: I show up fifteen minutes early and I sit there.
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  Speaker 3: I don't get seen until three thirty, even though the
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  Speaker 3: lands about right noon, okay, and ninety percent of the
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  Speaker 3: people they were all foreigners and immigrants.
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  Speaker 4: Okay, fine.
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  Speaker 3: I come to Florida, I go to Delray Beach in
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  Speaker 3: their driver license, I get seen in fifteen minutes.
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  Speaker 5: I'm done.
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  Speaker 4: He's right. Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: It was just incredible.
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  Speaker 3: And so when I got to that point where, oh,
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  Speaker 3: you want to register to vote for the first time
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  Speaker 3: in my life and my adult wife, I changed my
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  Speaker 3: registration from Democrat. I've been a lifelong registered dev because
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  Speaker 3: I've been a Demi party thing. And so if you
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  Speaker 3: want any voice in the final candidates, you got to
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  Speaker 3: be able to vote in the primary. I change it
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  Speaker 3: to Republicans. Although based on the behavior of the Republicans lately,
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  Speaker 3: both in Oreon and in Washington. You know, I'm thinking
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  Speaker 3: about changing its independent because it's clear the party leadership
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  Speaker 3: in Washington hates Trump, opposes Trump, wants to do with Trump.
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  Speaker 3: They're waiting him out. I mean, he can't even do
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  Speaker 3: that award fund. He had three lawsuits and they really
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  Speaker 3: could have won billions. He gives it up for less
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  Speaker 3: than two billion dollar fund to award to other people.
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  Speaker 3: And even Republicans pose it. They can't even help them out.
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  Speaker 3: The House just passed a bill saying you can't do
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  Speaker 3: anything regarding attack and Iran until you get our approval.
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  Speaker 3: You know what, screw you? How about supporting Republican president
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  Speaker 3: and let it. I mean, he's doing pretty well. It's
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  Speaker 3: going pretty well on a lot of fronts.
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  Speaker 4: And even yeah, you can't support them.
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  Speaker 2: They want to go over a couple of his triumphs
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  Speaker 2: here that of course are underreported or virtually unreported.
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  Speaker 4: No or one, Yeah, ignored.
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  Speaker 2: Number one is the retaking of the Panama Canal. Basically
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  Speaker 2: it had becomes a sphere of influence for China. And
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  Speaker 2: what happened basically he sent Marco down there. Marco said,
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  Speaker 2: the Chinese are ripping you off. They've ripped off a
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  Speaker 2: couple of billion dollars. You violated our treaty and went
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  Speaker 2: to the Panamanian Supreme Court.
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  Speaker 4: They that the.
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  Speaker 2: Contract was invalid, and on February twenty third, the US
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  Speaker 2: and Panama marched into the offices of C. K. Hutchison
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  Speaker 2: and took it over and gave it to a consortium
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  Speaker 2: of Maersk and a couple other shipping companies logistics. Let's
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  Speaker 2: look at Venezuela, right, it's Venezuela, same deal.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, they just went in.
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  Speaker 5: There and took that guy out of there, just like that.
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  Speaker 3: And when you think about it, as opposed as the
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  Speaker 3: media are, Gerry and the Democrats, look how quickly Venezuela
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  Speaker 3: just disappeared.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, and the go ahead. What else?
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  Speaker 2: Well, So now we have Cuba, which is going to
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  Speaker 2: fall with probably in a matter of weeks.
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  Speaker 4: Because you know, we have an embargo.
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  Speaker 2: And they're going to have a mass epidemic there due
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  Speaker 2: to the fact they have no electricity and the water pumps.
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  Speaker 2: They're gonna have cholera, and you know, it's ninety miles
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  Speaker 2: away from the Florida coast. It will be a mass exodus.
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  Speaker 2: So the US, there's a doctrine that I didn't even
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  Speaker 2: know about in the UN called the right to defend.
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  Speaker 2: And that's when a country collapses and can't keep order
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  Speaker 2: and disease and everything else, that there's a right to
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  Speaker 2: go in there to protect the people themselves. So that's
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  Speaker 2: going to happen next because yeah, we're causing it.
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  Speaker 4: We can't stop it, right, and let's not underplay Iran.
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  Speaker 4: I don't care who out there is opposed to this.
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  Speaker 3: This is terrible. Israel's the tail wagon, the dog, all
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  Speaker 3: of that stuff. Are you happy because I am that
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  Speaker 3: the top fifty leaders of Iran were taken out and
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  Speaker 3: they are gone, and yes, you're your generation of leaders.
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  Speaker 5: But guess what, we can take them out too. I
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  Speaker 5: am here.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, that Israel's hunting down and killing every single senior
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  Speaker 3: Hamas official involved.
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  Speaker 4: Is this here, pack?
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  Speaker 3: They deserve it. I hope they enjoy meeting their maker
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  Speaker 3: and go note with guys. I mean, and the thought
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  Speaker 3: that Iran should be controlling the strait of horror moves
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  Speaker 3: and that anyone put up with that. I'm waiting for
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  Speaker 3: Trump to declare the ceasefire over and go back in
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  Speaker 3: because they know how to bomb whatever places are our
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  Speaker 3: hit ship and I look forward to that happening. And
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  Speaker 3: so that's been a huge wit while Democrats find a
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  Speaker 3: way to oppose it. I've never seen the opposition party
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  Speaker 3: come out and criticize the sitting president and our conflict
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  Speaker 3: ongoing while it's we're in the middle of it.
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  Speaker 4: It's just terrible. Yeah, it's insane, insane.
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  Speaker 2: And then we got to other victories in South America.
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  Speaker 2: We have basically Columbia, uh got rid of their socialists there.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, that just happened a couple of days ago.
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  Speaker 2: Mexico. So the supply of fentanyl. I knew this was
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  Speaker 2: coming back in the March of last year when when
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  Speaker 2: Trump had a sit down with g and the title
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  Speaker 2: of my article on Substack was China just lost the
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  Speaker 2: Third Opium War because that's what they did. The fentanyl
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  Speaker 2: was an asymmetric attack on the United States. And now
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  Speaker 2: fentanyl death's way down.
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  Speaker 3: Supply a one hundred thousand, right down by tens of
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  Speaker 3: thousands of people. Incredible, And you wonder what what was
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  Speaker 3: government doing all along while this was happening.
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  Speaker 4: Off things.
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  Speaker 3: I think we lost maybe sixty five thousand or fifty
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  Speaker 3: eight thousand people men in Vietnam and here we were
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  Speaker 3: losing built one hundred dollars every year for five or
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  Speaker 3: six years, horrifying, and the meeting, they were nowhere on
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  Speaker 3: it because they thought it was just a drug addicts
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  Speaker 3: who were having over to These are people who were murdered.
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  Speaker 3: And I always felt like the China government was complicit.
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  Speaker 3: They wanted the artist deliberate.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, because you know what it was, like I said,
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  Speaker 2: it was the third Opium War. You know, they they
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  Speaker 2: lost face and the worst thing you could do as
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  Speaker 2: an Asian is to lose face. And now they're you know,
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  Speaker 2: put they were giving it back to us, and Trump
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  Speaker 2: said no mass and even you know, the conditions in
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  Speaker 2: China now terrible, their economy, infrastructure, everything. So anyway, this
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  Speaker 2: isn't meant to be a session to basically praise Trump
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  Speaker 2: but give credit when credit is due.
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  Speaker 4: For sure.
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  Speaker 3: The one thing you're pointing up here is what I
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  Speaker 3: call it's like the nineteen sixties game show. It's not
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  Speaker 3: what you say that counts, it's what you do don't say.
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  Speaker 3: And today the air press, the mainstream media, it's what
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  Speaker 3: you don't say. They're not covering and and they're ignoring,
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  Speaker 3: and they're trying to Bury many stories if they are
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  Speaker 3: at all leading to complementary coverage of the troupe, and
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  Speaker 3: shame on them.
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  Speaker 4: Exactly exactly.
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  Speaker 3: You got us not agreeing on everything though, because good stories,
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  Speaker 3: good presentations require conflict, drama, struggle, disagree, hate and and
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  Speaker 3: and we're way.
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  Speaker 4: Too much a line here, I got hindsight.
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  Speaker 2: Way that's why we're that's why we're talking about your book, Oregon,
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  Speaker 2: or show us the book again here today.
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  Speaker 4: There you go. And that's kind.
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  Speaker 3: This thing because Oregon, because it's so small. You know,
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  Speaker 3: people ask why you were in New York four years?
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  Speaker 3: Why did you write a whole book on New York.
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  Speaker 3: New York is so big and diversified, it will take
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  Speaker 3: forever to destroy it, and you never will, Okay, so
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  Speaker 3: it will just be the little things of pain. But
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  Speaker 3: Oregon is so small that the bad effects of stupidly
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  Speaker 3: liberal policies end up showing up in sharp relief. And
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  Speaker 3: they end up showing up sooner because they got only
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  Speaker 3: four point two million people over two billions. We're in
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  Speaker 3: the Portland area, Portland sixty five percent of media market,
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  Speaker 3: and so you can it's like a canary in the
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  Speaker 3: coal mine is a Peatriet dish to watch for what
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  Speaker 3: can go wrong, and things are going really wrong. They've
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  Speaker 3: want eighty eight thousand people I think in the past
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  Speaker 3: couple of years. I just read a tweet about that
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  Speaker 3: they've lost thousands of businesses. A timber company in Oregon,
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  Speaker 3: one of the richest timber areas in the world, has
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  Speaker 3: just put two hundred and fifty dollars to buy timberland
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  Speaker 3: in North Carolina. That's how policies in Oregon are. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: I mean earlier after failure, and the people keep re
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  Speaker 3: electing the same old guys. I talked to one guy
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  Speaker 3: at a leadership conference in Portland, and he said, government
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  Speaker 3: is the only entity where you're not really judged on performance.
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  Speaker 3: We just keep re electing the same people again and
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  Speaker 3: again despite all these failure. You know, a poor metro
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  Speaker 3: area might have mentioned it spends over seven hundred million
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  Speaker 3: a year on the homeless and the ranks of the
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  Speaker 3: sixty four percent in two years, seven hundred and twenty
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  Speaker 3: seven million dollars a year, and like twenty twenty four
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  Speaker 3: on eighteen thousand homeless people. That's forty thousand dollars a purse.
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  Speaker 4: It's insane.
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  Speaker 3: Every street year, you'd fix his life if he could
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  Speaker 3: fix his life.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, And then they got needle and crack pipe distribution, Like,
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  Speaker 2: how do you justify that?
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  Speaker 4: You know, how can justify it?
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  Speaker 3: I had a driver give me be a three hour
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  Speaker 3: tour of the city and in the early two thousands
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  Speaker 3: of driver's got his own one hundred and twenty thousand
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  Speaker 3: dollars escalade, his own car service company. Now and the
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  Speaker 3: early two thousands he was addicted and on the street,
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  Speaker 3: and he says, the biggest problem here is we want
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  Speaker 3: to make life on the streets as comfortable as possible.
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  Speaker 3: If you want to reduce homelessness, you've got to make
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  Speaker 3: life on the streets as miserables as players. Food bank
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  Speaker 3: there getting one hundred million dollars a year.
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  Speaker 4: To distribute free food.
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  Speaker 3: It ends up turning into rat feed because addicts they
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  Speaker 3: don't eat that much, and most of them are already
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  Speaker 3: on Snap. Because you know, Oregon has twenty thirty percent
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  Speaker 3: more people on Snap than the national average, even though
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  Speaker 3: it's the sixteenth rich estate by GDP. I think it
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  Speaker 3: is and so ridiculous coddling, so that all those people
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  Speaker 3: from elsewhere come to Portland because it's so cushy here.
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  Speaker 4: It's so great.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, so what about all the fraud that's getting uncovered
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  Speaker 2: in all these programs?
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  Speaker 4: Heerious.
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  Speaker 3: I love there in Oregon, and and it has to
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  Speaker 3: be there because the key is, anytime you see a
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  Speaker 3: huge increase in money, government money flooding into a particular zone,
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  Speaker 3: fraud rises there and take advantage of it. And that's
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  Speaker 3: happened in Oregon. They have a clean energy fund. They
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  Speaker 3: passed attacks We've got to help. I'm a change, We've
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  Speaker 3: got to help cut down carbon okay, And they pass
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  Speaker 3: this energy tax. And they thought they'd bring in sixty
• 19:02
  Speaker 3: million years this one percent on all retail sales over
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  Speaker 3: a million I think it is, we'll bring in sixty
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  Speaker 3: million year. They're bringing in over two hundred million a year.
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  Speaker 3: They had to have a surplus unspent of seven hundred
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  Speaker 3: million dollars sitting there from this cleap if you fund
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  Speaker 3: and passing it out to friends. Here's a grant to
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  Speaker 3: help forty black owners of black owned businesses buy an
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  Speaker 3: electric car. We'll pay half of the price for them
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  Speaker 3: because that's going to cut down on carbon emissions.
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  Speaker 4: No, it won't.
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  Speaker 3: Forty electric cars. China's turning out thirty three percent of
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  Speaker 3: the world emissions every day without any limits. Nothing is
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  Speaker 3: going to change that. In fact, that came up with
• 19:41
  Speaker 3: a startling, damning statistic about all climate and carbon regulations
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  Speaker 3: when I was researching oregoners. Okay, so this came out
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  Speaker 3: just recently in a study, an academic study, okay, in
• 19:54
  Speaker 3: the environmental something or other. And do you know that
• 19:59
  Speaker 3: in a eighteen years of carbon reduction regulations in California,
• 20:04
  Speaker 3: they reduced carbon emissions by sixty five million metric tons.
• 20:07
  Speaker 3: That's that's amazing in about a few weeks of fires
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  Speaker 3: in twenty twenty or twenty twenty one, it was Pornia
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  Speaker 3: burned and released one hundred and twenty seven million metric
• 20:21
  Speaker 3: tons of carbon emissions because of those fires into the atmosphere,
• 20:24
  Speaker 3: almost double the savings of eighteen years of carbon regulations
• 20:30
  Speaker 3: because of ours. And two years later it happened again, fires,
• 20:35
  Speaker 3: doubling that sixty five million of savings in almost twenty years.
• 20:40
  Speaker 3: It renders all carbon regulation ridiculous and arrogant. We think
• 20:45
  Speaker 3: bechame in mother nature, and you can't. And they didn't
• 20:49
  Speaker 3: learn that time with the timber and the spot at
• 20:51
  Speaker 3: al and they aren't learning it here unbelievable.
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  Speaker 2: Well, your book is definitely needed, and I think that
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  Speaker 2: many of you out there are going to want to
• 21:01
  Speaker 2: take a look at it. It's available in Amazon or
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  Speaker 2: to the book will be in the show notes of
• 21:11
  Speaker 2: this interview on Financial Survival Network dot com and Dennis
• 21:15
  Speaker 2: always appreciate you coming on. We'll talk to you again
• 21:18
  Speaker 2: real soon.
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  Speaker 4: Thanks so much, Cary, you have a glorious day.
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