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Gorgeous young teacher 24-y-o shot dead. Video of shadowy figure emerges. · Crime Stories with Nancy Grace

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Speaker 1: Sirius XM, thank you for being our partner. Does chilling
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Speaker 1: video depict a shadowy figure approaching the car of a
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Speaker 1: twenty four year old school teacher and gunning her down dead?
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Speaker 1: And is her death linked to multiple deaths in Sam Bernardino?
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Speaker 1: I Meanancy Grace, this is Crime Stories. Is there a
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Speaker 1: serial killer stalking San Bernardino? Crime Stories with Nancy Grace,
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Speaker 1: is there a serial killer stalking San Bernardino? Take a
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Speaker 1: listen first to our friends at La NBC. There's his
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Speaker 1: news for Jane yamamto. We are just in front of
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Speaker 1: Del Valleo Middle School, where the young woman started teaching
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Speaker 1: full time just two weeks ago. Excited and full of joy,
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Speaker 1: twenty four year old Nancy Magania beaming with pride documenting
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Speaker 1: her first day as a middle school teacher. She just
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Speaker 1: always made everybody feel like welcome and included Maria Magania,
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Speaker 1: holding back tears talking about her younger sister. Nancy, one
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Speaker 1: of four girls in a tight knit family. A former
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Speaker 1: college soccer player, she put everything on hold after she
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Speaker 1: got pregnant with her son, now five years old. Anywhere
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Speaker 1: that she went it was kid friendly because he was coming,
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Speaker 1: she says. That was the case. Friday night, Nancy and
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Speaker 1: her son went to David Buster's with her boyfriend. Later
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Speaker 1: that night, the three of them were near thirtieth and
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Speaker 1: Flora's Street, parked in his truck, a few blocks away
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Speaker 1: from her parents home, when police say someone walked up
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Speaker 1: and opened fire just after two in the morning. Nancy,
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Speaker 1: the only one shot, was to a local hospital where
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Speaker 1: she died. You are hearing the very latest in the
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Speaker 1: death of this young schoolteacher with me an all star panel.
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Speaker 1: Cloyd Steiger thirty six years Seattle PD, twenty two of
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Speaker 1: Those in Homicide and author of Seattle's Forgotten serial Killer,
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Speaker 1: Gary Jane Grant. You can find him at Cloyd Steiger
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Speaker 1: dot com. Professor Forensics, Jacksonville State University, death investigator, author
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Speaker 1: of Blood Beneath My Feet on Amazon. Forensics expert Joseph
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Speaker 1: Scott Morgan, Psychoanalyst to the Stars, joining us from Beverly Hills.
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Speaker 1: Doctor Bethany Marshall at doctor Bethany Marshall dot com. Alexis
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Speaker 1: terres Chuck Kraick, investigator investigative journalists for Crime Online dot com.
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Speaker 1: But I just before I go to you, Alexis terres Chuck,
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Speaker 1: thank you all for being with me, Doctor Bethany. I
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Speaker 1: don't get it. Why what to just walk up to
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Speaker 1: this schoolteacher and the fact that she videoed her first
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Speaker 1: day when she was going to be a teacher. She's
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Speaker 1: just out of college, she's twenty four years old. She's
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Speaker 1: got her little baby boy with her. She and her
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Speaker 1: boyfriend of taking the baby out to David Busters their
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Speaker 1: part about a blot from her parents home. And they're
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Speaker 1: just sitting there talking, probably listening to music in the
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Speaker 1: car before they go in, and somebody walks up the report. Sorry,
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Speaker 1: a shadowy figure walks up to her and opens fire. Bethany,
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Speaker 1: When I dropped the children off for school, there's this
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Speaker 1: one devotion I like to listen to. It comes on
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Speaker 1: at eight o'clock sharp every morning and during the week,
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Speaker 1: and a lot of times I will pull over and
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Speaker 1: hear the last part of the devotion and just sit
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Speaker 1: there and drink out of this thermos of tea as
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Speaker 1: I hear the end, and you're sitting there listening or
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Speaker 1: not paying attention to anything around you. Who would come
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Speaker 1: up and she this young mom did in front of
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Speaker 1: her baby, Nancy, in front of her five year old child.
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Speaker 1: I have so many questions about this, sick about it, Bethany. Well,
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Speaker 1: let's think about this. Nancy. She was a school teacher.
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Speaker 1: Was there anybody in her class who had any student
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Speaker 1: who had a hateful fixation on her? Was somebody stalking her?
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Speaker 1: Wait a minute, Wait a minute, She's a middle school teacher.
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Speaker 1: What you think the sixth grader is gonna have an
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Speaker 1: obsession and stalk her and come out in the middle
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Speaker 1: of the night and shoot her dead in the car.
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Speaker 1: I don't think, so let's get off that theory. Then,
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Speaker 1: a sixth grader sith, no, my children are well start
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Speaker 1: a sixth grade at age eleven. Let's just statistically, jess
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Speaker 1: gott help me, help me, just not that theory down. Sorry, Bethany,
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Speaker 1: but a sixth grader is not going to sneak up
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Speaker 1: on her in the middle of the night and sheeter dead. No, No,
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Speaker 1: probably not. But what about angry parents, Nancy? What about
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Speaker 1: somebody that maybe she has crossed at some point, Tom,
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Speaker 1: she's interacting with a lot of people. If she's a
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Speaker 1: public school teacher, a school teacher, it's her first teaching job.
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Speaker 1: What long simmering feud are you talking about, Joe Scott Morgan. Oh,
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Speaker 1: I'm not saying it's a long simmering's sixth grader. Well,
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Speaker 1: it's middle school, Nancy. You've got six, seventh and eight sometimes,
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Speaker 1: so I don't know who she's crossed. But obviously this
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Speaker 1: was very, very angry and had the guts to do this.
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Speaker 1: I agree with that. I agree with that, But it'll
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Speaker 1: be a cold day and h eble l that I
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Speaker 1: agree that a twenty four year old mom of a
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Speaker 1: five year old boy first teaching jobs straight out of
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Speaker 1: the gate. She's sitting outside her parents house, listen to
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Speaker 1: the radio with her child and her boyfriend, and she's
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Speaker 1: got some grudge match we don't know about at age
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Speaker 1: twenty four. I mean, Bethany, I think we need to
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Speaker 1: you follow your heart, all right, you're the shrink. I'm not,
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Speaker 1: But statistically speaking, I just don't see it a grudge
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Speaker 1: with sixth graders. She hadn't had time to get the
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Speaker 1: parents mad at her yet, Nancy. I have quite a
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Speaker 1: few friends who are teachers here in Los Angeles, Yes,
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Speaker 1: and it is a scary world out there. Parents are angry,
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Speaker 1: children are entitled. I've heard quite a few stories about
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Speaker 1: parents being, like Joe Scott Morgan said, very angry at
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Speaker 1: teachers if their child is given a bad grade, if
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Speaker 1: they feel their child is being bullied or mistreated. I mean,
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Speaker 1: teachers are on the front line. But even if it
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Speaker 1: wasn't simmering resentment on behalf of the parent, and you
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Speaker 1: pointed out she'd only been there for two weeks, she
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Speaker 1: is a beautiful young woman. I don't know if you
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Speaker 1: saw her picture, how long had she been with this guy, Bethany.
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Speaker 1: You know, I always have the picture of a victim
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Speaker 1: right in front of me. And she actually reminds me
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Speaker 1: a great deal of my sister, who always grew up
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Speaker 1: with the long straight hair parted like Ali McGraw. Do
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Speaker 1: you remember her in Love Story. That's the way she
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Speaker 1: does her hair. My sister looked just like that, still does.
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Speaker 1: And that's what this actually, You know what, I'm gonna
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Speaker 1: eat a dirt sandwich, plays Jackie, Go get me a
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Speaker 1: dirt sandwich. I gotta tell you something that happened my
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Speaker 1: nephew that used to live with me and my husband
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Speaker 1: and the twins. He got married beautiful young girl. They
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Speaker 1: now have a baby. She was a substitute teacher and
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Speaker 1: she had a child that would kick and bite and
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Speaker 1: beat throw himself on the other children. So she finally
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Speaker 1: had to pull him away from the other children and
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Speaker 1: put him off in his play area by himself. And
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Speaker 1: the mother showed up and got so mad that but
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Speaker 1: the way she described ried it, and it's all on
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Speaker 1: video because all the rooms have videos in them at
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Speaker 1: that school, she was so man I thought she was
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Speaker 1: going to attack my nephew's wife. And this was her
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Speaker 1: first substitute teaching job. She got so shaken up by
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Speaker 1: this parent nutting up on her she went to a
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Speaker 1: different job. So, actually, I think you two may be right,
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Speaker 1: but let's follow this through to its logical conclusion. Cloyd
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Speaker 1: Steiger twenty two years homicide. If it is a parent
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Speaker 1: that's angry at this young woman who's her first teaching job,
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Speaker 1: think about it, Cloyd. I don't see the parents stalking
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Speaker 1: her throughout the evening, following them to David Busters, following
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Speaker 1: them to her parents home, sneaking up on them as
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Speaker 1: three of them are sitting in the car and shooting
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Speaker 1: one of them. Follow the theory through to the end, Cloyd.
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Speaker 1: I think Joe, Scott and Bethany actually have a good
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Speaker 1: point that I was fighting with them over. I don't
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Speaker 1: think that m O that modus operandi would work with
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Speaker 1: an angry parent. Now you expect Nancy, if this was
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Speaker 1: an angry parent parents. First of all, I agree that
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Speaker 1: that does happen. That they're talking, Yeah, but they're right,
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Speaker 1: yeah yeah, But if you're talking about an angry parents,
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Speaker 1: they're gonna be waiting by her car at the school
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Speaker 1: parking lot or in the school or someplace where they
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Speaker 1: know she is. They don't know her enough two weeks
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Speaker 1: since and know where she lives or where her parents live,
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Speaker 1: so that never time stories with Nancy Grace, Thank you
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Speaker 1: for being with us here at Fox Nation and Series
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Speaker 1: XM one eleven. We're talking about the cold blooded killing.
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Speaker 1: Apparently I'm a twenty four year old teacher sitting in
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Speaker 1: the car with her boyfriend and her five year old
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Speaker 1: baby boy. But now we are learning that chilling video
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Speaker 1: has emerged, video that depicts a shadowy figure approaching the
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Speaker 1: car of the teacher just twenty four years old, moments
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Speaker 1: before she is gunned down by what we are now
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Speaker 1: calling who we are now calling the San Bernardino serial chiller.
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Speaker 1: Have cops been able to link six other murders to
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Speaker 1: Nancy's murder? Take a listen to our friends at LA
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Speaker 1: NBC News four. This is Jane Yamamocho. Nancy's son called
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Speaker 1: her his superhero, doing lots of activities from hiking to
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Speaker 1: plane in the snow. It took her a little bit longer,
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Speaker 1: but she graduated. She got her teaching credential, achieving her
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Speaker 1: dream becoming a full time math teacher and volunteer volleyball
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Speaker 1: coach at Del Vallejo Middle School just two weeks ago,
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Speaker 1: decorating her classroom with her own money to welcome her students.
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Speaker 1: She got like little erasers with little quotes on them,
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Speaker 1: any type of way to motivate them to stay in school.
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Speaker 1: The school district says they plan on having their crisis
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Speaker 1: intervention team out here for students and staff tomorrow. Meanwhile,
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Speaker 1: the Maganya family still in disbelief. Maria told me she
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Speaker 1: does not believe her sister was targeted because she had
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Speaker 1: no enemies. The family plan on having a vigil in
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Speaker 1: the next hour at their home. Police still have no
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Speaker 1: suspect and no motive for the deadly shooting. A manhunt
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Speaker 1: immediately underway for possible serial killers, as authorities in San
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Speaker 1: Bernardino asked the public begged the public for help in
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Speaker 1: the shooting death of this twenty four year old middle
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Speaker 1: school teacher, her very first job teaching. And let me
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Speaker 1: go out to you, Jo Scott Morgan joining me and
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Speaker 1: Joe Scot you've worked on so many death cases I
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Speaker 1: remember as a prosecutor. I mean, we may practically nothing,
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Speaker 1: but I wanted to present a great case every trial.
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Speaker 1: And we didn't have any money. I had work to
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Speaker 1: night jobs, but I would go and spend my own
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Speaker 1: money for posters and magic markers and demonstrative aids, whatever
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Speaker 1: I needed to present in front of the jury. I
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Speaker 1: remember one of the biggest bills I got. I had
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Speaker 1: a guy. It was first thought a suicide, but gunshot
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Speaker 1: residue proved different. And this guy had been writing the
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Speaker 1: purp had been writing letters to all of his friends
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Speaker 1: and they were very jocular, like, hey, keep it cool
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Speaker 1: and don't kill your wife, signed Dave. So I subpoena
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Speaker 1: ambushed all these people he'd been writing to. For subpoena,
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Speaker 1: ducas Teakam to hand over documents, and then I blew
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Speaker 1: them up, big poster size for the jury to see.
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Speaker 1: To blow all those up at Kinko's, it was like
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Speaker 1: three hundred dollars. And I remember at the time, I'm like, oh,
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Speaker 1: dear Lord in Heaven. But when I think about this woman,
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Speaker 1: this young woman, twenty four, she fights her way through school.
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Speaker 1: She graduates like obviously because she had the baby and
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Speaker 1: was taking care of her son, and the spending her
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Speaker 1: own money to decorate the classroom and give all the
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Speaker 1: children a little cute erasers and that just breaks my heart.
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Speaker 1: Joe Scott, you know how much it costs to decorate
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Speaker 1: a classroom or put on a murder trial. It costs
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Speaker 1: a lot out of your own pocket. You've been a
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Speaker 1: public servant, yeah, I have, and my wife is a
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Speaker 1: longtime public school teacher as well, and it does cost
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Speaker 1: a lot. But you know what you're talking about here, Nancy,
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Speaker 1: when you're talking about blowing these images up. I like
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Speaker 1: to teach my students at Jacksonville State that I teach
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Speaker 1: in forensics, I say, listen, you have to understand not
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Speaker 1: only are you an investigator, you're a historian. There's no
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Speaker 1: one else there that will document this case and literally
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Speaker 1: honor the memory of the individual that has passed away.
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Speaker 1: So every bit of evidence that you collect is almost
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Speaker 1: like you're you know, you're like an archaeologist. You're preserving
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Speaker 1: the past here, that moment time that's frozen, those images
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Speaker 1: that you captured, the scene, the evidence that you capture,
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Speaker 1: because you know you can't transport a jury out there
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Speaker 1: in real time to that exact moment time, and you
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Speaker 1: freeze it and then you put it before the jury
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Speaker 1: and you see the pain and the suffering that went on,
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Speaker 1: all of the blood, all of the evidence, and it
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Speaker 1: captures it just for a moment, and you remember the
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Speaker 1: sacrifice that this woman made in her life for these
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Speaker 1: kids that she was teaching and for her own child.
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Speaker 1: To Alexis, to rush Hut Crime online dot Com investigative
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Speaker 1: reporter Alexis, I mean, I could go on and on
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Speaker 1: and on about this young lady and her son now
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Speaker 1: not having a mom, what's going to become of him
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Speaker 1: starting her first teaching job. But I want to get
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Speaker 1: to the facts because the only way this case will
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Speaker 1: ever be resolved in some degree of peace to her
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Speaker 1: son as he grows up. Let's start at the beginning.
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Speaker 1: Tell me what happened the night that Nancy mcganya was murdered.
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Speaker 1: So Nancy and her boyfriend and her five year old
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Speaker 1: go to David Busters and I guess I hope Buster
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Speaker 1: viewers know what that is, but you know it is.
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Speaker 1: It's a super fun family restaurant. They have video games
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Speaker 1: for kids, they have chicken wings, you know, the episodas,
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Speaker 1: they stuffed animals. It's a really fun, wholesome family place
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Speaker 1: to go. So they leave there, they go drive home.
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Speaker 1: They pull over about a block or two away from
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Speaker 1: her parents' house where she lives with her a little boy,
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Speaker 1: and he is actually asleep in the car. He's and
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Speaker 1: they are just talking in the parking lot. Nothing's going
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Speaker 1: on there, no like calls to the police of disturbance
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Speaker 1: of them yelling or fighting or anything. They're just hanging
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Speaker 1: out together. All of a sudden, a car pulls up
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Speaker 1: near them. Now this was caught on surveillance video that
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Speaker 1: the poem. And it's a white colored sedan and it
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Speaker 1: pulled up kind of near them, and then on the
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Speaker 1: camera you see a shadows like a man approaching the
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Speaker 1: car who's right up to the car and opened fire
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Speaker 1: on to Nancy and kills her. Alexis I am looking
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Speaker 1: right now at the video. We got it from KTLA
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Speaker 1: channel five, they first broadcast it, and we've posted it
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Speaker 1: at crime online dot com. Jackie, let's make sure that
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Speaker 1: our listeners can look at the video too. And it's
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Speaker 1: just like you're saying, you see and it is a sedan.
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Speaker 1: I can tell. It's a four door, light colored. It
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Speaker 1: has a moon roof. I'm seeing that for the first time.
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Speaker 1: And it Jack's up in the back it's cut off.
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Speaker 1: You know how the I guess a civic used to
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Speaker 1: do Brett do you remember those, and go straight up
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Speaker 1: the back. I can't tell them make but I do
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Speaker 1: see exactly what you're saying. A light colored Sedan am
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Speaker 1: chops straight up off at the back four door, and
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Speaker 1: I actually can see the light inside the car where
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Speaker 1: the person it looks like puts it in park because
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Speaker 1: you see movement, and alexis, what do you see after
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Speaker 1: the car pulls up. I'm seeing it as far as
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Speaker 1: getting put in park. Then what happens? They leave the
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Speaker 1: lights on by the way, which is a good thing
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Speaker 1: for us. Go ahead. It's really scary to think, well,
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Speaker 1: be there in the car with your boy your boyfriend,
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Speaker 1: you think you're safe with this person in your child
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Speaker 1: and somebody just opened fire on you. And the scary
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Speaker 1: thing the police said they had no words when this
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Speaker 1: person walked up to the car. Now we cannot see
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Speaker 1: this in this video. There's not sound, but the police
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Speaker 1: say there was no words exchanged. Guys, you can see
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Speaker 1: that video at climb online dot com. Crime Stories with
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Speaker 1: Nancy Grace. Thank you for being with us. Everybody. We
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Speaker 1: are analyzing the shooting death of a young mom, a
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Speaker 1: schoolteacher starting her first job only two weeks into the semester,
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Speaker 1: the San Bernardino police desperately searching for who they now
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Speaker 1: believe is a serial killer. The video that emerged shows
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Speaker 1: a shadowy figure pulling up in a light colored four
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Speaker 1: door sedan, getting out, approaching Nancy's car where she's sitting
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Speaker 1: with her boyfriend and her five year old son, and
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Speaker 1: opening fire. Interesting, the boyfriend and the son are not harmed. Now,
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Speaker 1: typically that would make me look at the boyfriend first.
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Speaker 1: Why because he is unscathed, He is unharmed, the baby
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Speaker 1: is unharmed? Or do I have that wrong? Alexis terestche
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Speaker 1: joining me Crime online dot Com investigative reporter. Was the
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Speaker 1: boyfriend wounded in anyway? I believe he was wounded and
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Speaker 1: he went to the hospital, but he is fine. I don't.
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Speaker 1: I think that more than one shot was fired in
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Speaker 1: this car, and I think that he was grave, but
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Speaker 1: he did not die. Now is it possible that the
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Speaker 1: victim knows the killer? Is it an old boyfriend? Is
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Speaker 1: it an X? All we know about the man with
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Speaker 1: her was that that was her boyfriend. Now, why is
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Speaker 1: it to doctor Bethany Marshall that we would look at
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Speaker 1: an x or a love interest in the past first. Well,
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Speaker 1: the reason we look at and when somebody is killed,
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Speaker 1: we look at their most intimate partners because it is
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Speaker 1: in the context of our attachment systems that we have
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Speaker 1: our wrongest emotions that could propel us forwards homicides, so resentment, jealousy, envy, abandonment, rage.
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Speaker 1: It's very rare for a stranger just to decide to
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Speaker 1: attack another person. Although I was thinking about the DC
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Speaker 1: snipers Muhammad leave the void Melbow where they attacked in
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Speaker 1: pairs and they seem to pick their victims randomly. But
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Speaker 1: you always start with the person's most intimate circle because
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Speaker 1: that's where homicidal feelings emerge. I agree with you and
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Speaker 1: Chloyd Steiger. Isn't it true that statistically, when there is
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Speaker 1: a killing, it's someone you know, someone close to you. Now,
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Speaker 1: when I say close to you, I don't necessarily mean
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Speaker 1: your husband, although they're a perfect candidate or boyfriend. It
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Speaker 1: could be somebody that has been obsessed on you at work.
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Speaker 1: It could be the delivery boy, could be the next
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Speaker 1: door neighbor. We've said that in multiple cases where a
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Speaker 1: neighbor is watching the victim day in, day out, and
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Speaker 1: then attacks and kills them. But statistically it's someone in
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Speaker 1: your inner circle, Cloyd, Yeah, almost always, I mean the
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Speaker 1: ninety percent of the time. That's why. You know, innocent
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Speaker 1: people are rarely killed, but they are sometimes. There's a
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Speaker 1: lot of different things. Did you just say innocent people
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Speaker 1: are rarely killed? Right? I mean yeah, I mean people
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Speaker 1: who really didn't put themselves in a position to get
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Speaker 1: killed are rarely murdered. Whoa, whoa, whoa what? People who
22:31
Speaker 1: don't put themselves in a position to be killed rarely
22:35
Speaker 1: get murdered. All I know is my fiance was out
22:39
Speaker 1: in the middle of a rural area on a construction
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Speaker 1: site when he was murdered. This woman is sitting in
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Speaker 1: a car outside her parents' home, mining her own business
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Speaker 1: when she's murdered. I don't happen. I don't even know
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Speaker 1: what you're saying. You so what you're blaming the victim
22:54
Speaker 1: to me that they put themselves in the spot. What
22:56
Speaker 1: the hey are you saying? No, statistically, those people because
23:00
Speaker 1: they're doing drugs or prosecution. Wit a minute. I got
23:06
Speaker 1: to disagree with that, Joe Scott Morgan. In all the
23:09
Speaker 1: cases I prosecuted. Yeah, all my murder victims were not
23:13
Speaker 1: nuns and priests and virgins. I'll give you that much.
23:15
Speaker 1: I had one lady that beaten and dies of smoking
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Speaker 1: Elasia when her mansion was burned. She was asleep in bed.
23:23
Speaker 1: Had another guy that was running from his killer, who
23:26
Speaker 1: you owe ten dollars. I mean, I've got to disagree
23:31
Speaker 1: with that. I had one woman who's in her own
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Speaker 1: home and her husband was convinced she was dating somebody else,
23:36
Speaker 1: but she wasn't. He shot her in her own bed.
23:39
Speaker 1: I don't think those people put themselves in a position
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Speaker 1: to get murdered. Joe Scott Morgan. Most of the time,
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Speaker 1: they don't. Nancy, I have to say, though, that you've
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Speaker 1: you've hang on, You've kind of given us a clue here.
23:51
Speaker 1: Though we've kind of danced around this quite a bit.
23:54
Speaker 1: One of the things that we're not talking about here
23:57
Speaker 1: is the neighborhood that they're in. Remember what you had said.
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Speaker 1: She was outside her parents' home, Okay, hold on. She
24:07
Speaker 1: was a couple of blocks away outside Delman Heights Recreation Center,
24:12
Speaker 1: So she wasn't directly outside their home. She was. It
24:16
Speaker 1: looks like to me, Alexis a cul de sac where
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Speaker 1: the car poll was that like a cul de sac
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Speaker 1: area at near the parents home. It's just blocks waving here.
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Speaker 1: It's like she said, director, but there's a park and
24:29
Speaker 1: so it's sort of a park area. Interesting. That goes
24:33
Speaker 1: back to what Joe Scot Morgan is saying, guys, in
24:36
Speaker 1: addition to where the murder occurred, maybe it had nothing
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Speaker 1: to do with Nancy herself. Maybe it had to do
24:42
Speaker 1: with something else. What more do we know about her?
24:47
Speaker 1: Take a listen to our friends at La CBS two
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Speaker 1: reporter Greg Mills. A woman so full of personality in life,
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Speaker 1: killed at the age of twenty four. She was always
24:58
Speaker 1: just so happy and she we just found the good
25:00
Speaker 1: in everything. A single mom, her world revolved around her
25:04
Speaker 1: five year old son, Pablo. She went into teaching partly
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Speaker 1: because it allowed her to be home with him late
25:10
Speaker 1: afternoons and evenings. From again, I thought, you not that
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Speaker 1: these adventurers stayed home all that much. We all would
25:18
Speaker 1: just take trips together, like, Hey, you guys want to
25:20
Speaker 1: go up to Yosemite. Hey, do you guys want to
25:22
Speaker 1: go to Sequoya. You know, we're going to go to
25:24
Speaker 1: the Grand Canyon and go hike the Grand Canyon. Nancy
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Speaker 1: was just two weeks into her first year of teaching
25:28
Speaker 1: here at Del Valley Hill Middle School in San Bernardino.
25:31
Speaker 1: She loaded up on supplies to make her math classroom
25:34
Speaker 1: very welcoming to her students. She would make the kids
25:37
Speaker 1: feel special individually, not just as a class. Friday night,
25:41
Speaker 1: Nancy and her boyfriend took Pablo out for a night
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Speaker 1: of fun. Late that night, the three of them in
25:46
Speaker 1: her boyfriend's truck. Pablo most likely asleep, Nancy had driven,
25:50
Speaker 1: so she was in the driver's seat. Somebody shot her
25:53
Speaker 1: through the driver's side window. Everybody just loved her, So
25:56
Speaker 1: it doesn't make any sense. You know when it doesn't
26:00
Speaker 1: makes sense, that means you need to break it down
26:02
Speaker 1: and start over. Maybe this is not about her at all.
26:06
Speaker 1: You know what, as much as I came down on,
26:08
Speaker 1: I'm Cloyd Steiger and trying to make everybody on this
26:12
Speaker 1: panel speak the truth to me, because you all have
26:16
Speaker 1: so much expertise. When you say victim put themselves in
26:20
Speaker 1: the position, I don't like that. But is the location
26:26
Speaker 1: where they were sitting important? Not that she is a
26:31
Speaker 1: bad person, but the location. Maybe there is something to
26:36
Speaker 1: what you're telling me. And then the case suddenly moves
26:40
Speaker 1: forward ninety mph. Take a listen to a San Bernardino
26:45
Speaker 1: Police Department press conference. The sand Rondino Police promer received
26:50
Speaker 1: the call of a headline traffic vision a Calahoma and
26:54
Speaker 1: Darby Street. We lobsters are in route. Additional calls were
26:57
Speaker 1: received shots were it in the area. Minutes later, osers
27:01
Speaker 1: arrived on scene and discovered a red Toyota camera with
27:04
Speaker 1: the rear windows shot out and the driver suffering from
27:06
Speaker 1: a gunshot wound. Also located in the back seat was
27:09
Speaker 1: an infant, the core of Page, who had sustained major
27:12
Speaker 1: trauma as a result of the traffic pollision. Both the
27:15
Speaker 1: driver infant were transported to a local hospital. The driver
27:18
Speaker 1: survived his injuries. However, Page did not okay hold on
27:22
Speaker 1: just a moment. So now on the heels of Nancy's death,
27:26
Speaker 1: we have another incident where a red Toyota camera was approached,
27:31
Speaker 1: the windows shot out. They go for the driver. The
27:35
Speaker 1: driver survived, but the baby in the back seat does not.
27:38
Speaker 1: Alexas Terrestia, what happened? So a man? He was finally
27:44
Speaker 1: twenty years old. The trail Page thirty Camistreet in Timber
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Speaker 1: another car ploger and he is shot in the back
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Speaker 1: of her head where he baby in the back seat.
27:54
Speaker 1: It was just two people killed right in front of
27:56
Speaker 1: their children. Well, I'm sorry, he actually so in the oad.
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Speaker 1: It's car crushes and the crush is so severe that
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Speaker 1: the baby WI Crime Stories with Nancy Grace. Guys, we
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Speaker 1: are talking about a potential serial killer stalking San Bernardino.
28:31
Speaker 1: Thank you for being with us so far. We have
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Speaker 1: a twenty four year old teacher dead shot in her
28:37
Speaker 1: car in front of her five year old son and boyfriend,
28:41
Speaker 1: and we're picking her apart and her past, her history,
28:45
Speaker 1: now her location. But as Chloyd Stiger points out, maybe
28:50
Speaker 1: it's something completely different. Has really nothing to do with
28:53
Speaker 1: her at all. There's no connection that police could uncover
28:56
Speaker 1: between her and the second shooting victim. This is what
29:00
Speaker 1: I like to do in analyzing a case. Compare cases
29:03
Speaker 1: for every minute similar detail. Both in their vehicle, both
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Speaker 1: in San Bernardino, both driving with a child in the car,
29:11
Speaker 1: both had the windows up, both attacked by someone else
29:15
Speaker 1: in a vehicle that gets out of the vehicle and
29:17
Speaker 1: approaches the victim. The similarities are beginning to line up
29:22
Speaker 1: to show a serial killer stalking Sam Bernardino. I want
29:27
Speaker 1: you to take a listen now to San Bernardino Police Department. Jackie,
29:33
Speaker 1: I want to cut forward to Katla. This is news
29:37
Speaker 1: reporter cut seven, Carlos cesdo take a listen to this.
29:42
Speaker 1: Any parking lot near thirtieth and Flora Streets, police say
29:46
Speaker 1: surveillance video shows a whit sedan pulling into a parking
29:49
Speaker 1: lot before the shooting. Suspect gets out and fires into
29:53
Speaker 1: another vehicle, killing a woman. The victim, twenty five year
29:56
Speaker 1: old Nancy mcganna, a middle school teacher, was sitting in
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Speaker 1: a truck with her boyfriend and five year old son
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Speaker 1: when it happened. No words were exchanged between the victim Magana,
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Speaker 1: and that vehicle, and somebody walked up on that car
30:10
Speaker 1: and opened fired on the driver's side, striking her. A
30:13
Speaker 1: month later, a man crashed his car after he was
30:16
Speaker 1: shot and wounded. The impact killed Decoro Page, the man's
30:20
Speaker 1: infant son riding in the backseat. Then last month, four
30:25
Speaker 1: men were shot, three of them fatally. On January nineteenth,
30:29
Speaker 1: Leman Hamilton and his sus Valencia were struck in the
30:32
Speaker 1: middle of Baseline Street. Hamilton died of his injuries. Two
30:36
Speaker 1: days later, Daniel Melendez and Israel Delatre were shot and
30:40
Speaker 1: killed on the fourteen hundred block of North Grand Avenue. Guys,
30:45
Speaker 1: how many people have died at the hands of this
30:49
Speaker 1: serial killer? Doctor Bethany Marshall, psycho analyst. They think of
30:54
Speaker 1: serial killers as someone who sneaks into your house in
30:57
Speaker 1: the middle of the night and strangles the one with
30:59
Speaker 1: a stock, or we think of Ted Bundy or Wayne Gaycy.
31:04
Speaker 1: This is completely different m serial killing by shooting. None
31:10
Speaker 1: of these victims are connected to each other. That means
31:15
Speaker 1: it's not someone from their past like an old boyfriend
31:18
Speaker 1: or lover. No, these people are unconnected. What does this
31:23
Speaker 1: mo tell you about the killer? Nancy? I've been racking
31:26
Speaker 1: my brain to think about all of the stories we've
31:29
Speaker 1: covered over the years with men killing in pairs and
31:34
Speaker 1: usually at some distance from the victim. Usually the victims
31:38
Speaker 1: are picked randomly. I'm thinking about the DC sniper. There
31:43
Speaker 1: was another case I think in Texas where people were
31:46
Speaker 1: randomly shot from a distance, like a woman on a
31:50
Speaker 1: park bench. I think of the DC sniper case. Somebody
31:53
Speaker 1: was just pumping their gas in their car. A woman
31:56
Speaker 1: was in a parking lot that mo tells me that
32:01
Speaker 1: it may be two men men traveling in a pair,
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Speaker 1: a stronger, older male recruiting a younger, more vulnerable male.
32:11
Speaker 1: A thrill kill aspect to the killing, meaning they're getting
32:15
Speaker 1: themselves excited and working themselves up into a frenzy picking
32:20
Speaker 1: vulnerable populations. In that these victims all seem to be
32:24
Speaker 1: in cars, either driving or parked somewhere, and because the
32:30
Speaker 1: first one is at close range but we don't know
32:32
Speaker 1: about the others, there's kind of a fish in a
32:35
Speaker 1: barrel quality, like not always wanting to see the whites
32:40
Speaker 1: of the eyes of the victims, sort of wanting to
32:43
Speaker 1: be sneaking up on them in an unsuspecting way, especially
32:47
Speaker 1: since this one victim was shot in the back of
32:49
Speaker 1: the head, which means that somebody had to have pulled
32:52
Speaker 1: up behind his vehicle in order to shoot him, So,
32:56
Speaker 1: you know, the aspect of closeness versus distance. Maybe just
32:59
Speaker 1: got Moran could speak to that, but definitely there's a
33:02
Speaker 1: thrill kill aspect to this. Guys. We are analyzing a
33:06
Speaker 1: series of shooting deaths in the San Bernardino area, starting
33:10
Speaker 1: with a twenty four year old school teacher that we
33:12
Speaker 1: know of. Have there been other victims of this serial
33:15
Speaker 1: killer that have not been attributed to him. And Joseph
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Speaker 1: Scott Morgan, Professor Forensics, Jacksonville State University and author. I
33:24
Speaker 1: say him because this is screams out to me that
33:29
Speaker 1: it is a mail perp on many different levels. Explain
33:33
Speaker 1: how you would analyze the scene to connect these killings,
33:38
Speaker 1: obviously beyond the fact that a similar weapon may have
33:41
Speaker 1: been used. Well, one of the things that myself and
33:45
Speaker 1: certainly people like Cloyd would engage in with this is
33:49
Speaker 1: something that's referred to as geographic profiling, and the ideas
33:54
Speaker 1: where are these events taking place? You know, what type
33:58
Speaker 1: of activity do we have relative to roadways, neighborhoods, this
34:04
Speaker 1: sort of thing accessibility in order to facilitate this. You know,
34:08
Speaker 1: we've got two so far that that we've really dug
34:11
Speaker 1: into here, where one was adjacent to a roadway, where
34:15
Speaker 1: we have this beautiful young woman who is shot, you know,
34:18
Speaker 1: they have an ability to escape, and then we have
34:21
Speaker 1: this horrible event which I saw the videotape on this
34:24
Speaker 1: This is absolutely horrendous where this father shot in the
34:30
Speaker 1: head and survives miraculously and his baby is killed. And
34:34
Speaker 1: that really gives us an indication, you know, So what
34:37
Speaker 1: do we have here relative to the connectivity between all
34:41
Speaker 1: of these victims and accessibility to them? And that's one
34:46
Speaker 1: of the things that we'd be looking at, beyond just
34:48
Speaker 1: the basic forensic stuff like what type of weapon are
34:52
Speaker 1: being used? You know, what type of rounds have been
34:54
Speaker 1: recovered from the scene that we can tie back to
34:56
Speaker 1: a single weapon. Perhaps the first thing I would do
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Speaker 1: Chloyd Steiger thirty six years Seattle, PD and author is
35:04
Speaker 1: analyze if you can get them the bullets, which I'm
35:07
Speaker 1: sure that you can, as these victims were shot in
35:10
Speaker 1: an enclosed area the car, so the bullet will either
35:14
Speaker 1: either be found in their body or somewhere in the vehicle.
35:18
Speaker 1: The first thing is the ballistics test, which will show
35:21
Speaker 1: you if the bullets were all fired from the same
35:24
Speaker 1: gun based on the striation marks on each bullet. Every
35:31
Speaker 1: gun is unique, like a fingerprint. The way that the
35:34
Speaker 1: metal on the inside of the barrel cools as the
35:39
Speaker 1: gun is made leaves little marks inside the gun. As
35:42
Speaker 1: the bullet hurls down the barrel with such force, with
35:47
Speaker 1: such velocity, it gets marks on it the bullet that
35:51
Speaker 1: can only come from that particular gun. So the bullets
35:56
Speaker 1: from each case can be compared microscopically determine if it
36:00
Speaker 1: comes from the same gun. Then it's a matter of
36:03
Speaker 1: finding that gun before he gets broken down and disposed
36:07
Speaker 1: of and firing a test round from that gun to
36:11
Speaker 1: see if you're a bullets get the same striation marks.
36:14
Speaker 1: Number one, I look for fingerprints on the car, did
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Speaker 1: the rest fingerprints if they're right handed, left fingerprints and
36:21
Speaker 1: shoot or no. Also surveillance video in all of these areas.
36:26
Speaker 1: I want you to take a listen. He's Sam Bernardino
36:29
Speaker 1: Police Department press conference as they are taking a long
36:34
Speaker 1: look at another other victims, Lamon Hamilton. Listen m and Hamilton.
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Speaker 1: One Sunday, January nineteenth of this year, at approximately zero
36:43
Speaker 1: six hundred hours, as Sam were Nardino Police Department received
36:46
Speaker 1: a call of a man down Spruce and Meridian. When
36:49
Speaker 1: officers arrived on scene, it come twenty four year old
36:52
Speaker 1: Lamon Hamilton down in the middle of the street suffering
36:55
Speaker 1: from a gun Shotling evans collected the scene suggested there
36:58
Speaker 1: had been an exchange of gunfire. A short time later,
37:02
Speaker 1: Culton Police Department advised that they were out at the
37:04
Speaker 1: same hospital with a shooting victim. The second shooting victim
37:07
Speaker 1: was identified as twenty year old Jesus Valencia, who lives
37:11
Speaker 1: near the area where Hamilton had been shot. Seems to
37:14
Speaker 1: me that one of the victims tried to run, tried
37:17
Speaker 1: to get away. I'm not sure how that went down,
37:20
Speaker 1: but I know this. These victims are not connected. We
37:24
Speaker 1: are waiting right now for news. We understand that there
37:28
Speaker 1: has been an apprehension in the case of de Treille Page,
37:35
Speaker 1: just twenty one years old. Is it the right guy?
37:40
Speaker 1: Is he possibly linked to all of these murders, and
37:43
Speaker 1: if so, why we wait as justice unfalls. Nancy Grace
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Speaker 1: Crime Stories, signing off goodbye friend,