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Free Speech Only If We Agree · The Wes Carroll Morning Show

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Speaker 1: The news, opinions, commentary, and interviews you need to start
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Speaker 1: your day. You're listening to the Wes Carroll Morning Show.
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Speaker 2: Tuesday morning, sixth day of October. I'm Wes. Thanks for
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Speaker 2: joining me. I have a little headphone issue this morning.
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Speaker 2: I mean, something's goofy with them anyway. Not your problem,
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Speaker 2: it's my problem, unless your earbuds or whatever you're listening
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Speaker 2: on is having an issue, but my headphones are having
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Speaker 2: an issue. That's how it goes sometimes. Might be time
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Speaker 2: to break out the new ones. Seems like it might be. Anyway,
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Speaker 2: let's get started today. First of all, something that happened
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Speaker 2: over the weekend that is a bit of a surprise,
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Speaker 2: and I think I've talked about this before, the fact
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Speaker 2: that it's very rare... to see a Tom Cruise movie
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Speaker 2: open to a poor box office. I think there's still
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Speaker 2: time for it to get fixed, though, because my assumption,
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Speaker 2: I got no insider info on this, I just have
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Speaker 2: had this long-standing assumption that one of the reasons that
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Speaker 2: Tom Cruise always has these hit movies with very little.
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Speaker 2: Wavering in the success in his box office is that
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Speaker 2: it has to do with Scientology. He's their guy. He
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Speaker 2: is the franchise player, right? Used to be him and
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Speaker 2: John Travolta and John Travolta, not so much anymore. But
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Speaker 2: Tom Cruise is the guy. And he is the Patrick
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Speaker 2: Mahomes of Scientology, right? He is the LeBron James... on
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Speaker 2: whatever team LeBron James jumped around to to win another championship,
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Speaker 2: or at least try to, of Scientology. He is all...
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Speaker 2: Michael Jordan, is that better? Tom Brady. How about that?
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Speaker 2: The point is, I don't think Scientology lets him fail
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Speaker 2: with these movies, and they have a lot of money,
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Speaker 2: because that's what that whole thing is about, is about money.
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Speaker 2: So if people are going in and buying their clarity...
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Speaker 2: Because that's what they do in these audits. You pay
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Speaker 2: for the levels of clarity and all these things. So
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Speaker 2: the money that they bring in, I'm sure they can
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Speaker 2: afford to then turn around and make sure that his
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Speaker 2: movies do well. That's always been my assumption. I have
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Speaker 2: no insider info on this. I have no secret knowledge
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Speaker 2: of anything that happens behind the scenes. That's just what
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Speaker 2: I have assumed for quite some time is what took
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Speaker 2: place in Every time he releases a movie. I could
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Speaker 2: be wrong. I suspect that I'm not. We'll see. His
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Speaker 2: movie called Digger that was getting a lot of press.
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Speaker 2: A lot of press. Over the course of the last
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Speaker 2: few weeks. And this thing has been dubbed a bomb.
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Speaker 2: Because of its $ 8 million opening weekend. uh reportedly at
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Speaker 2: a 160 to 180 million dollar budget uh 12 million
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Speaker 2: it made overseas so a 20 million dollar worldwide start
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Speaker 2: and that's not a good thing for it's not good
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Speaker 2: uh so we'll see i i don't know if this
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Speaker 2: is one of those things where they wanted to kind
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Speaker 2: of It's a weird place for this movie as far
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Speaker 2: as time of year. Typically, the movies that you get
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Speaker 2: this time of year are horror-related. And there are some
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Speaker 2: and will be more to come in the next few weeks.
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Speaker 2: But this is kind of the sweet spot for that.
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Speaker 2: Before we get into the November and December push for
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Speaker 2: the holidays and the Oscar buzz, And this is one
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Speaker 2: of those movies that had some Oscar buzz. So I
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Speaker 2: don't know where all that stands, but we'll see if
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Speaker 2: magically the movie... Let's just see if next weekend Digger
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Speaker 2: somehow makes more money than it did its opening weekend.
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Speaker 2: All right, we'll keep an eye on that. And if
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Speaker 2: it somehow makes more than $ 8 million in the U.S.,
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Speaker 2: next weekend we can all look towards... the Scientology people.
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Speaker 2: That's just that. And it may not be the case
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Speaker 2: in this movie. I don't know. I mean, it may
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Speaker 2: not be the case at all. That's just what I
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Speaker 2: think has been going on over the years. He's made
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Speaker 2: some really good movies. Don't get me wrong. He's also
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Speaker 2: made some movies that weren't great, that somehow still managed
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Speaker 2: to be profitable, reasonably profitable. And I don't know if
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Speaker 2: this is a movie that they just didn't want to
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Speaker 2: get behind. If I'm right, I don't know. We'll see.
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Speaker 2: Who knows where all of this is? But it'll be
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Speaker 2: fun to watch next weekend and see if that's what
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Speaker 2: ended up happening. I don't know. So the other thing
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Speaker 2: I want to talk about today is following up on
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Speaker 2: a few things as it is related to Macklemore and
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Speaker 2: that tour that he was kicked off of because of
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Speaker 2: his political leanings.
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Speaker 1: His.
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Speaker 2: pro-Palestine messaging that he was putting out there. And I
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Speaker 2: just want to just kind of address another aspect of this,
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Speaker 2: because we have talked about this a fair amount, and
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Speaker 2: I think it's important that we address this next stage
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Speaker 2: of it, because I have seen a number of different
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Speaker 2: people saying that Robert Kraft, owner of the Patriots, owner
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Speaker 2: of his own stadium there, who said, if this tour
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Speaker 2: still has Macklemore on it, then I don't want this
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Speaker 2: tour to come to my town. And that was a
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Speaker 2: decision that he made, and he talked to some other owners.
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Speaker 2: Robert Kraft is Jewish, by the way. And probably some
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Speaker 2: of the other owners of some of these other venues, Jewish,
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Speaker 2: or at the very least, pro-Israel. I don't know. Maybe just,
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Speaker 2: I don't know, not anti-Semitic jerks. Maybe. I don't know.
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Speaker 2: But he got with them and they basically kind of
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Speaker 2: came up with this thing and said, look, these dates
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Speaker 2: of these shows are not going to happen if Macklemore
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Speaker 2: is still on this tour. And that is the thing
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Speaker 2: that's gotten a lot of people worked up. A number
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Speaker 2: of people who have said that they think it's unfair
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Speaker 2: that that we have some wealthy white men who get
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Speaker 2: to decide whether or not this concert gets to take place,
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Speaker 2: and they think that it is silencing free speech. Ed Sheeran,
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Speaker 2: this was his tour, and Macklemore booked as an opening
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Speaker 2: act several other opening acts that were part of this
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Speaker 2: tour all backed off and said, if he's not good enough,
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Speaker 2: we're not good enough either. Ed Sheeran has tried to
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Speaker 2: be nonpolitical with his music. I did a little digging,
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Speaker 2: not a lot of digging, but I've not found anything
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Speaker 2: Ed Sheeran has said about politics one way or the other.
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Speaker 2: And I do understand that there are people saying, well,
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Speaker 2: he should have, in this particular instance, been vocal about
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Speaker 2: not wanting this. Like, if he's not going to be political,
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Speaker 2: don't let someone else on the tour be political. And
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Speaker 2: I think that probably falls under the he's letting free
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Speaker 2: speech run its course and letting people do what they
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Speaker 2: want to do. Was it to his detriment? Yeah, I
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Speaker 2: think so. I think it certainly made him look bad
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Speaker 2: in every possible way in this because he let this
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Speaker 2: sort of thing take place on his tour. He was
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Speaker 2: certainly in an awkward position. If you're trying to be
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Speaker 2: apolitical and then you which I'm for that, I'm for
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Speaker 2: musicians and And actors and athletes being apolitical. I am.
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Speaker 2: They have a right to say whatever it is they
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Speaker 2: want to say or not say whatever it is they
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Speaker 2: want to say. And I will defend their right to
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Speaker 2: be apolitical. And I think there should be more apolitical,
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Speaker 2: all of those things. Entertainers, celebrities, whatever. I don't think
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Speaker 2: it's their responsibility to tell us what to do and
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Speaker 2: how to think and all those things. But that's not
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Speaker 2: the way society in that world tells us to be.
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Speaker 2: It says that they have to be very political, and
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Speaker 2: they have to be their politics. You can't just simply say,
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Speaker 2: I don't want to be involved in this. I don't
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Speaker 2: want anything to do with all of this conversation. I
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Speaker 2: want to write music. In Ed Sheeran's case, I want
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Speaker 2: to write love songs, and I want to go perform
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Speaker 2: them on stage. looking like a Weasley brother. And that's fine.
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Speaker 2: Go do that. Go be you if that's who you
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Speaker 2: want to be. But the problem is your opening acts
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Speaker 2: get booked and they're pro-Palestine and anti-Israel and in some
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Speaker 2: cases say and do things that are not just that,
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Speaker 2: they're anti-Jew. Macklemore dressing like a stereotype Jewish person and
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Speaker 2: dancing around or whatever on stage and all of those things.
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Speaker 2: That's anti-Semitic. That's not just, hey, I like Palestine. Hey,
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Speaker 2: I'm going to grab the low-hanging fruit here that is
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Speaker 2: this Palestine movement because I'll never be asked to go
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Speaker 2: to Gaza and hang out with Palestinians. It's just easy
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Speaker 2: to say that. And then people are going to, you know,
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Speaker 2: have whatever opinion or thoughts or whatever that go with that. Um,
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Speaker 2: and I've stressed this before. They're Christian Palestinians and they
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Speaker 2: have a struggle there that is very unique in that area.
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Speaker 2: So I'm not anti Palestinians. I'm anti anyone who wants
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Speaker 2: to blow up and destroy Israel. I'm anti anyone who
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Speaker 2: wants conflict and hate and violence in that area. And
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Speaker 2: that includes anyone who is not defending themselves or trying
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Speaker 2: to defend themselves from a threat. How about that? So
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Speaker 2: here we go. Various celebrities that have come out now
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Speaker 2: and publicly said that we can't let these rich white
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Speaker 2: people decide what, what, free speech should be had. And
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Speaker 2: one of the people who has said that is AOC.
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Speaker 2: I'm sorry, Representative Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, who has said, yeah, you
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Speaker 2: can't let these white people decide what... You know what
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Speaker 2: you can do is you can let the free market
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Speaker 2: decide it, which has basically been what we have done
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Speaker 2: for a long time. If you are a famous person
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Speaker 2: And you say something really stupid and you lose your
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Speaker 2: job and then you get canceled. That's been the left's
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Speaker 2: methodology for dealing with people when they don't like what
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Speaker 2: the free speech is. See, it's only free speech when
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Speaker 2: they agree with it. And then if they disagree with it,
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Speaker 2: then the person should be eliminated from the entertainment industry
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Speaker 2: or sports or not allowed to be in a basketball
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Speaker 2: court playing women's basketball and point your finger at somebody. See,
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Speaker 2: there's just certain rules that are unwritten rules. It's like
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Speaker 2: those unwritten rules in baseball. We don't know what all
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Speaker 2: of the rules are. There's just some rules that you're
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Speaker 2: just not allowed to do and things you're not allowed
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Speaker 2: to do. So when someone who owns a venue who
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Speaker 2: is Jewish says, I don't want this messaging in my venue...
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Speaker 2: I don't want it in my– which, by the way,
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Speaker 2: there have been now at least one country singer who's
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Speaker 2: come along and worn a pro-Palestine shirt on stage because–
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Speaker 2: and done it inside the Robert Kraft Stadium at that.
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Speaker 2: So what we have is this methodology of– they're not
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Speaker 2: allowing free speech. Well, if you own a company, like,
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Speaker 2: for example, Papa John's, and you're in a meeting and
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Speaker 2: you use a word or two as an example of
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Speaker 2: something and people don't like the word or example, they
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Speaker 2: run you out of being the CEO of your own company.
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Speaker 2: And then they go get Shaquille O'Neal to be your spokesperson.
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Speaker 2: And no one was screaming, asking where his rights for
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Speaker 2: free speech were. There may have been a few people,
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Speaker 2: but this wasn't a widespread thing coming from the left. Well,
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Speaker 2: it's his company. He should have free speech. Why can't
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Speaker 2: he have free speech in the boardroom? People weren't doing that.
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Speaker 2: Were people demanding for Roseanne's right to free speech with
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Speaker 2: what she said they got her kicked off of her
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Speaker 2: TV show? No. Were they demanding for free speech for
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Speaker 2: Jimmy Kimmel and the horrific things that he said? Yes.
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Speaker 1: Yes.
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Speaker 2: There's a difference in what is being said and which
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Speaker 2: side of the aisle is saying it and what the
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Speaker 2: context is. Jimmy Kimmel can say the horrific thing he
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Speaker 2: said was just a joke. Roseanne can say the horrific
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Speaker 2: thing she said was just a joke. So are jokes
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Speaker 2: free speech? Are they protected or are there consequences for it?
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Speaker 2: You look back at people who have had jobs taken
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Speaker 2: away from them, careers taken away from them. because of
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Speaker 2: something that they tweeted years ago, many years ago, and
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Speaker 2: they lose a gig because of it. Whether they're 14
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Speaker 2: years old and just new to getting on social media
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Speaker 2: and tweet something, and then all of a sudden people
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Speaker 2: are digging through that 15 years later going, I can't
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Speaker 2: believe this person would say these things when they were 14. Really?
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Speaker 2: Have you met a 14-year-old? There's some really dumb 14-year-olds.
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Speaker 2: I think I was a dumb 14-year-old. glad I didn't
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Speaker 2: have Twitter when I was 14. That wasn't a thing.
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Speaker 2: But I definitely did some really dumb things. I never
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Speaker 2: said anything dumb like that, but I definitely did some
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Speaker 2: dumb things. Definitely did some dumb things. Nothing that would
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Speaker 2: get me fired, I don't think, years later, but it
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Speaker 2: was a different time. But why, for some people, can
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Speaker 2: we look past it, and for some people, we can't
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Speaker 2: look past it? And why can't we let a Jewish
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Speaker 2: man who owns a venue say, I don't want this
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Speaker 2: messaging in my venue. I don't want the guy who
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Speaker 2: dresses up like a stereotype, offensive stereotype of a Jewish
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Speaker 2: person parading around on my stage inside my venue. I
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Speaker 2: don't want that. So I and my friends that don't
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Speaker 2: want that are going to say, let's don't put that
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Speaker 2: on a stage. But people don't want to focus on
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Speaker 2: that part of it. They just want to focus on, well,
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Speaker 2: they won't let him say free Palestine. They won't let
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Speaker 2: him say that. They won't let him say free Palestine.
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Speaker 2: People that are already free. They won't let him do that.
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Speaker 2: They won't let him grab at the low-hanging fruit. They
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Speaker 2: won't let him do it. And they won't let the
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Speaker 2: More West Carroll Morning Show right after the break. According
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Speaker 2: to National Retail Foundation data, Americans are expected to spend $ 13. 5 billion,
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Speaker 2: with a B. on Halloween this year, topping last year's
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Speaker 2: record and proving that even higher prices can't keep people
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Speaker 2: from getting into the spirit of the season. About 74%
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Speaker 2: of consumers plan to celebrate with candy, costumes, and decorations,
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Speaker 2: accounting for most of the spending. The average person expected
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Speaker 2: to shell out about $ 115, and nearly half of shoppers
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Speaker 2: started buying Halloween goodies before October even arrived. Still people
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Speaker 2: looking to save money, though, by shopping sales. comparing prices
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Speaker 2: and reusing decorations from previous years. One thing has become clear, though.
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Speaker 2: This is not a day anymore. It's a full season.
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Speaker 2: So Halloween spending up. I think part of it being
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Speaker 2: up also has to do with, you know, prices of
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Speaker 2: things have gone up over the last few years. Well,
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Speaker 2: six years, really. We had that heavy inflation during the
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Speaker 2: previous administration, and then, of course, some of that has
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Speaker 2: rolled into this administration. But yeah, $ 115 a person, that
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Speaker 2: actually sounds kind of low.
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Speaker 1: $ 13.
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Speaker 2: 5 billion overall sounds kind of high, but it's just me.
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Speaker 2: If you think your parents would be thrilled if you
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Speaker 2: told them you wanted to become like an influencer so
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Speaker 2: much so that that was going to be your major
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Speaker 2: in school. Uh, probably not. New survey found that nearly
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Speaker 2: one third of Americans would not support their child pursuing
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Speaker 2: a degree in social media influencing. Even as colleges began
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Speaker 2: offering programs focused on content creation, still 43% said that
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Speaker 2: they'd be on board and about one in five Americans
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Speaker 2: would actually consider enrolling in an influencer program themselves. Overall,
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Speaker 2: 52% don't see influencing as a legitimate career. Younger generations, though,
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Speaker 2: do feel differently. Nearly half of Gen Z says being
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Speaker 2: an influencer is a real job. Survey also found 25%
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Speaker 2: of Americans would rather have a million social media followers
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Speaker 2: than a traditional nine to five. Look, I can talk
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Speaker 2: a little bit about this, not necessarily from this million
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Speaker 2: follower social media perspective, influencer sort of capacity, but just
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Speaker 2: being someone who during a stretch of my time in
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Speaker 2: broadcasting was a digital content director for a lot of
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Speaker 2: radio stations in a large company. And what I can
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Speaker 2: tell you about all of this is to think that
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Speaker 2: it's going to work as a class of It's there's
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Speaker 2: challenges to it because you have to stay on top
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Speaker 2: of things. And it's almost like your, your foundational things
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Speaker 2: that you're going to learn. And this is a course.
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Speaker 2: We'll all change very much within two or three years
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Speaker 2: of me graduating. It's just, there's a lot of change
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Speaker 2: with all of it. And it's very hands-on and the
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Speaker 2: best learning that you can have from it is in fact, hands-on.
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Speaker 2: I'm not saying that you can't teach people how to
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Speaker 2: do it, but it changes drastically. So I'm just pointing
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Speaker 2: that out. I don't know how much you're going to
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Speaker 2: learn in four years and carry with you for 10
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Speaker 2: years after that. It just feels very much like an
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Speaker 2: opportunistic thing to jump on it and try to, you know,
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Speaker 2: but schools have got to do what they got to do.
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Speaker 2: And they're looking for ways to bring in students for
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Speaker 2: different careers. So I get that. I just have some
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Speaker 2: questions about how all that would work. All right, dating
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Speaker 2: apps are something that also changes quite a bit a lot.
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Speaker 2: If you need an example of that, how about this?
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Speaker 2: There's a new app called Rivet, and it basically says
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Speaker 2: no more of the endless swiping, and now they let
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Speaker 2: complete strangers play matchmaker instead. The app's social matching feature
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Speaker 2: allows users called matchers to suggest potential couples based on profiles,
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Speaker 2: with the idea being that real people can spot chemistry
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Speaker 2: and better than algorithms, and those algorithms might miss some
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Speaker 2: of those possible connections. Founded by a former Tinder executive
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Speaker 2: named Tara Kapoor, Rivet was created to make online dating
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Speaker 2: feel less lonely and more social. Nobody can force you
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Speaker 2: into a match, though. Both people still have to agree
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Speaker 2: before the conversation starts. The company says the approach is
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Speaker 2: already generating buzz among younger adults. many of whom say
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Speaker 2: they'd be willing to help strangers find love anonymously. This
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Speaker 2: feels like the whole social media thing where it feels
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Speaker 2: like you're connecting with people, but you're really not. And
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Speaker 2: I'm not talking about the date. I'm just talking about
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Speaker 2: the people that are playing the role of matchers. You're
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Speaker 2: not really interacting with them the way that you maybe
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Speaker 2: think that you are. They're just kind of maybe sitting
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Speaker 2: somewhere on the pedestal making the decisions. I don't know.
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Speaker 2: If you want to try it, good luck. That'll do
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