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- Mark Hayes (00:01.558) Alright, ladies and gentlemen, welcome back. Another exciting episode of Two Men in Black and White. We are live streaming on YouTube where you can find your favorite podcasts along with ours. We're also on Spotif on Apple podcasts as well, as well as Spotify too, correct, Brock? Yes, indeed. So check us out wherever you get your favorite podcasts. All right, today we've got a plethora of problems. Brock Ganeles (00:20.038) Absolutely. Mark Hayes (00:28.618) Circulating around the US because of Cheeto Mussolini and his shit show in Washington. he's destroying more shit. He argued today in a hearing about the White House ballroom that they could bulldoze the Statue of Liberty if they felt like it. again, Brock, we talked about the sheer level of incompetence that exists within this cabinet. But Brock, we know this is all a smokescreen for the Project 2025 people over at the Heritage Foundation around the corner from the White House, over there quietly dismantling our democracy piece by piece, and literally you know, doing a Derek Chauvin to Black America. Brock Ganeles (01:17.414) I'd say the Project 2025 guys who A don't care if Trump is slumped off over in his chair asleep through the meetings. Cause they're pushing through the policies. So they don't care. They'll fight for the ballroom because it'll placate Trump and keep him focused on total bullshit. Like his arch. And basically it keeps him out of the way from the from the policy. Mark Hayes (01:25.484) What's up with that? Mark Hayes (01:30.614) We don't care. Yeah. Mark Hayes (01:42.519) Right. Brock Ganeles (01:44.96) overhaul of America that they're looking to get done. So like he's really their useful idiot. So they throw him a ton of bones and support him on all his, you know, craziness and narcissism, right? They feed his narcissism so they can get the revamping of the country that they want. So you know, I was kinda up a little more optimistic yesterday 'cause I'd seen a series of events that showed some pushback against Trump. Mark Hayes (01:48.908) Right. Right. Mark Hayes (02:01.89) True there. Mark Hayes (02:05.666) True that. Mark Hayes (02:14.561) Mm-hmm. Brock Ganeles (02:14.735) But because it's an everyday onslaught, if you don't have a good everyday resistance, the MAGA movement just takes ground. And today they took more ground. Like we're happy that the slush fund appears like it's not gonna come through that one point eight billion dollar slush fund. But Senate Greenlit a huge funding bill for DHS. Mark Hayes (02:21.751) Right. Mark Hayes (02:25.624) Right. Mark Hayes (02:38.412) Right. Brock Ganeles (02:38.677) So like that becomes the middle ground. We're supposed to be happy, but like what what, seventy billion dollars are going to these ICE agents to run around the country in masks and throw people in detention centers and build more warehouses and continue those atrocities? Like that battle gets won. It gets positioned as like some great victory for the resistance because a couple GOP senators got to the went to the floor and argued against it. Mark Hayes (02:45.346) Right. Mark Hayes (03:04.769) Mm-hmm. It's a it's a joke. Brock Ganeles (03:06.551) go, you know, we're we we should be happy that Trump didn't didn't just take one point eight billion dollars from us and hand it out to Jan Sixers. Like, yeah, those are victories, but like that's just like stemming the most absurd notion that we could have ever come up with. We're still losing ground on the basic shit, right? Seventy billion dollars just got funded for ice agents. Yeah, but maybe they're not killing white people in the streets of Minneapolis anymore, but they're here to stay. Mark Hayes (03:23.116) Right. Right. Yeah. Mark Hayes (03:35.766) Right. speaking of Minneapolis, they held a moment of silence for Derek Chauvin. Minneapolis Republicans, House Republicans, held a moment of silence for Derek Chauvin. And, you know, we are wow, we are close enough you know, to when the at you know the anniversary of the event was just a couple of weeks ago. so you know it's it's really disgusting when you think of what kind of human being does that? You know, we watch this man die on television over and over again, Brock, because they didn't just kill him on television. Remember how they assassinated his character? They brought up his crimes, his criminal record. His drug abuse, his this, is that yeah. Yeah. Brock Ganeles (04:32.847) Must have been on drugs. the counterfeit twenty dollar bill story that floated around for fucking ever. As if that would as if that would have justified murder. Mark Hayes (04:39.618) Right. Right. Right. Who knew counterfeit money was punishable by death? Yeah. Right. Brock Ganeles (04:49.017) fake fake story to begin with, but even if it was true, it was like a absurd like premise. Well I deserve to die. Ca you know, it was using fake fake twenty. Mark Hayes (04:54.644) Right. Exactly. While while other peace officers stood and watched. Remember the other three guys that stood there watching? Brock Ganeles (05:06.957) They said one held his legs down, the other was sitting on his the back of his his hamstrings there, right? So he couldn't kick his legs. I mean, they weren't even only one guy was stand and the other guy was standing there as like protection. But three of them actually had hands-on. But Mark, this is why there is no coming together. And there is no compromise. You're not compromising with a let's call it political party, MAGA party. Mark Hayes (05:15.1) This man called for his mother. Yeah. Right. Mark Hayes (05:26.56) Right. Right. Brock Ganeles (05:36.09) That elects representatives that give a moment of silence for Derek Chauvan to please those same voters. Right? They're happy. They're doing it for a reason. They think they're playing to their base. Otherwise, they wouldn't do it. So they know their people and what they need to give them to keep them happy and keep them voting for them. So this is who they are. We're not coming to a common understanding. Mark Hayes (05:45.728) Right. Mark Hayes (05:50.208) Right. Right. Mark Hayes (05:59.328) Mm-hmm. Yeah. Brock Ganeles (06:05.215) Of an America that we all agree upon. This is a fucking civil war. Mark Hayes (06:11.84) It really is. It really is, Brock. you know, but look. The sides in the civil war shouldn't be black and white. The sides should be pro democracy versus anarchists. That that should be the the the dividing line. Why why are we trying to get into a race war? It's only forty million black people in in America. Brock Ganeles (06:39.877) Yeah, but blacks plus Latinos plus Asians, and we're starting to get to a fifty-fifty, and white America is starting to lose that definitive edge they've always had. Because if you believe in democracy, then de facto you're believing in multiculturalism, you're believing in a mate multiracial society, because you're believing that everyone in the society has the same rights, starting with that right to vote, with a one-man, one vote, and when everyone has the same rights, then Mark Hayes (06:47.085) Right. Mark Hayes (06:55.873) Right. Mark Hayes (07:06.806) Right. Brock Ganeles (07:09.753) You're gonna get representatives that maybe look different, think different, and don't push all policies that only play back into that former white majority and give them the advantages. Things become more even. So it's democracy plays its way through. Why in New York City? Why did everyone go so nuts about Mandani? Seems like a very talented politician, right? But well Muslim, his his crazy ideas were to raise taxes on the wealthy. Well that meant white people, right? His crazy idea was free buses. Mark Hayes (07:22.957) Right. Mark Hayes (07:26.57) Right. Mark Hayes (07:35.906) Hello. Mark Hayes (07:41.762) Yeah. Brock Ganeles (07:46.296) Mm-hmm. So that the people on the lowest end of the strata would be able to save some bucks and not have to so municipal busing was gonna be free. and the other crazy idea was to have some city run groceries so that people didn't didn't have to skip meals because they can't afford to eat. Right? So fucking crazy, so out of the mainstream that white America had this major backlash against him, and money was flowing in from all over the country to try to beat Mondani. And now that he Mark Hayes (07:51.478) Right. Mark Hayes (08:00.269) Right. could actually eat. Mark Hayes (08:14.454) Right. You believe that? Brock Ganeles (08:17.111) Jesus the mayor. Is anything really fundamentally getting overturned? No, because no one person can do it. But are there subtle things on the edges that maybe are making life more fair for the everyday citizen in New York City? The answer is yes. He's six months in the job, potholes are getting filled, he got the snow removed, and life in New York City is pretty good. But Mark Hayes (08:23.499) Right. Mark Hayes (08:28.013) Right. Mark Hayes (08:37.624) Yeah. Yeah. Brock Ganeles (08:41.421) His vote vo i was racial. Every vote is racial. It's the it's because it's multiculturalism is really what it is. And the question is, can you get white people to s to remain pro democracy? Will white people are white people in America pro-democracy? Hey, white people white people in South Africa weren't Mark Hayes (08:49.336) Right. Mark Hayes (09:02.07) Well the spicy whites are. No, not at all. Not at all. you know, and and and and you know, Brock, you look around the world, and why are why are the people with the most melanin the most hated everywhere you look? There's no place for us to go. Maybe Ghana. But even Ghana's prices are high now, right? They used to have incentives to, you know, bring black Americans to Ghana. I heard a lot of those ins incentives have gone away because so many people have come. Now they don't have to give deals anymore. Now they're, you know, competitive pricing. We got market rate pricing now. Where are we supposed to go? You know, when somebody tells me to go back where I came from, I'm going back to Peakskill. Right? You know, I'm not going to I've I mean I've been to Africa to visit, but Brock Ganeles (09:49.093) Ha ha ha. Mark Hayes (09:55.438) You know, I don't know anybody there. I don't have any family there that I know of. I guess if I, you know, did twenty three and me, I might be able to find somebody if they go back far enough. But are they gonna welcome me with open arms? Brock Ganeles (10:08.951) Absolutely not. But Steve hey, Steven Miller and his crew, they'll figure it out for you. They'll decide where you're fun and they'll just put you on a plane back there. Right? So and that's there's a big enough faction in America that would like that. And that's the faction that votes for those legislators in Minneapolis that decide that it's appropriate in some way, shape, or form to have a moment of silence of someone who's still alive, and B, someone who committed Mark Hayes (10:13.654) Yep, exactly. No doubt. No doubt. Mark Hayes (10:36.759) Right. Brock Ganeles (10:38.855) Murder because they they're okay with the person that Derek Chauvan murdered. Mark Hayes (10:39.831) Motive. Mark Hayes (10:46.528) Right. Right. Because they didn't see him as a human being. He was a thing. You know? And you know, just like the joke at the Kevin Hart roast, you know, George Floyd is not considered a human being. You know? This man called for his mother with his dying breath, right? But but we've got people who obviously don't see him as a human being, who who don't see him as his mother's child, who don't see him as a father, who don't see him as a brother. And that's the problem. White America needs to get over it. You know, we we we we're we are long past, you know, the the the the experiments on black people, like you can stab them and you know cut. pieces of them off and it won't hurt them the same as it does white people. We're we're long we're long past that. Right? We we've gotta start acting like a humane society. Brock Ganeles (11:55.814) Look at the treatment of all these people in these concentration camps right now. Or right to the point where, the new policy is gonna be good thing we have Mark Wayne Mullen in charge. Because the new policies now is we're no longer to report the number of deaths in the facilities. Not that we're gonna do anything to try to prevent deaths in the facilities. We're just not gonna report them anymore because it's bad PR. So that's a whole cadre of people that. Mark Hayes (11:59.32) Why it's horrible. Mark Hayes (12:11.086) Right. Mark Hayes (12:17.1) Right. Mark Hayes (12:22.327) Right. Brock Ganeles (12:26.389) US policy is they're a subclass of humans. They don't deserve not only don't they deserve rights, but they don't even deserve the benefits of the health care and Mark Hayes (12:32.046) Right. Brock Ganeles (12:42.841) the food and shelter to even give them a a a life that's above survival level until we can figure out a way to cart them out of here. And there's a huge chunk of America that's just fine with that. They can go with the the counterfeit twenty dollar bill ar argument that like, well they shouldn't have been here in the first place and this, that, and the other thing. Therefore they can be treated inhumanely and when they die, we don't even count What's more inhumane than that? That we don't even keep track when you Mark Hayes (12:53.538) Right. Mark Hayes (12:57.932) Right. Mark Hayes (13:05.879) Yeah. Mark Hayes (13:09.975) Yeah. Brock Ganeles (13:12.795) Die? Do they get a grave? What do they do? What are they just throwing them in unmarked graves behind the warehouses? Mark Hayes (13:13.741) Right. Right. Mark Hayes (13:21.654) Yo, I mean, Brock, this this takes me back to Khalif Browder. You know, the kid from the Bronx who was arrested, you know, for allegedly stealing a backpack that was his. It come to find out, he didn't steal anything. The kid was so brutalized in Rikers Island, he killed himself when he was released. The kid couldn't his parents couldn't afford the $200 bail. Why why are we why are we keeping him for two hundred bucks? Brock Ganeles (13:56.708) And there's people that argue that cash that you need cash bail. Like there's a real value to cash bail. Like it's so like a absurd notion to abolish cash bail. Like that kid should have still been in jail. But the all those all those same people that voted for those representatives and enjoy the moment of silence for Derek Chauvan, they don't care that he didn't steal the backpack. They're just like, I'm sure he did something else. Right? that's just what they caught him for. Mark Hayes (14:01.74) Right. Mark Hayes (14:05.526) Right. Mark Hayes (14:17.141) No. Right. Right. Right. Brock Ganeles (14:24.173) Right, they've already preordained that he's he's a criminal because they don't like the look of him. So they don't care about how he's treated in Rikers, and they certainly don't care about what happened to him after he got out. They're probably pissed he got out, figured out kids should have stayed locked up. They quote, all should be locked up. So this goes back to the Senate. Mark Hayes (14:28.246) Yeah. Right. Mark Hayes (14:38.925) Yeah. Right. Right. Brock Ganeles (14:47.769) Where we think maybe there's you know, the press and everyone positioning as some sort of victory that DHS got another seventy billion. Because there is no department in America, in the American government, that's less humane than DHS. Because IC is underneath DHS. No group operates more as a rogue militia or military, as rogue as they've gotten under Hegseth, bombing shit in the Caribbean, plays for the most part Mark Hayes (15:04.801) Right. Mark Hayes (15:16.155) Right. Brock Ganeles (15:17.703) Ye Jason Ice Mark Hayes (15:21.741) Right. Brock Ganeles (15:23.503) They don't care about the laws. They're flouting whether you need to knock even to break into places. You can just cart people away. You certainly don't get a fair and speedy trial coming out of DHS. You don't get any no one's even senators and congress people aren't even allowed in the facilities to see what's going on, right? Families don't get to visit. Mayors don't get in. there's family separation between kids and parents. It's the most y inhumane. Mark Hayes (15:45.323) Mayors. Brock Ganeles (15:53.45) admi you know, like division of the country. We just gave it seventy billion dollars without the blink of an eye and we've mainstreamed it so much it's sort of like a shrug of the shoulders like, yeah, you know, of course they needed it. So we can hire more of those overweight, massed fucking racist assholes to run around with AK forty sevens. Mark Hayes (16:04.781) Right. Mark Hayes (16:11.32) Yep. Yep. And and to buy more warehouses, to warehouse more human beings, you know, to continue the prison industrial complex that continues to profit. you know, think about all the thing now, Brock, remember, in this country, when you go to prison, you get pretty much the bare essentials. You'll get a uniform and some slippers. You don't get underwear, you don't get t-shirts, you don't get toothpaste, you don't get a toothbrush. You gotta have somebody send you some money so you can buy all that stuff from the prison industrial complex. They charge for email in prison. Right? Right? Most people are in prison because they couldn't afford a good defense. How in the fuck are they supposed to afford an email account? You've got it, you've got to put money on your loved ones books in order for him to send you a fucking Who's still paying for email, Brock? Please tell me. Right? If you're still paying for dial up on AOL, you know, I got some swamp land to fucking sell ya. Brock Ganeles (17:13.369) Yeah, no phone call. Brock Ganeles (17:19.939) And you can't have a cell phone, so you gotta use that phone and what's that, two bucks a minute or some creat some crazy reeks? Mark Hayes (17:24.898) Securist. Securis. Securist is banging it up. Running it up on us. You know? Some industries are recession proof, right? We've heard that before. Yeah, the prison industrial complex is recession proof. Cheap labor. Brock Ganeles (17:41.817) And now the And now the w the warehousing of human beings business, right? Core groups making a ton of money off of this shit. And these ICE agents are getting paid bonuses and getting paid healthy government contract government, yeah, they got in essence, they're government employees getting great health care and living large as they run around with masks, terrorize the country. And that's what we funded. That's what we continue to fund. So, I mean, I just can't view it as a victory because a couple senators got up and made a couple speeches that criticized the president, like Tillis, who doesn't have a job, come. Mark Hayes (17:46.668) Yeah. Yep. Mark Hayes (17:53.164) Yeah. Mark Hayes (18:01.736) No. Yeah. Brock Ganeles (18:13.393) November and Kennedy who doesn't have a job come November because basically Trump ran him out of their jobs. So they they give a couple speeches, but they don't do sh you know, in the end, they don't really do shit. Mark Hayes (18:14.37) Right. Mark Hayes (18:19.64) 'Cause they fought back a little bit. Mark Hayes (18:25.822) Right. Right. And that's the sad part. You know, nobody's working for the American people. And that's why we're paying more. That's why everything's more expensive. that's why the American people are struggling while the one percent continue to enrich themselves. The Fuckerbergs, the Bezoses, you know, all the one percenters, the Musks, the Muskrats. Brock Ganeles (18:49.263) Musk Musk's gonna be a trillionaire after the Space S X IPO goes public. Nvidia guy's gonna be a trillionaire. The anthropic guy, they're gonna go IPO. He's gonna become the first AI, half a trillionaire at least, coming out of that. And we still sit on our hands, right? Because it's a little too hot out. Meanwhile, right, we see other countries again, right? Albania has Jared and Ivanka fucking around on some private island off their coast, and their people are flooding the streets. Mark Hayes (18:53.983) yeah. yeah. Mark Hayes (19:04.598) Right. Right. Mark Hayes (19:19.074) Got in a chokehole. Tearing up their projects. Brock Ganeles (19:19.449) You can Because they don't want that. So they're they're scared they're scaring their political class by uprising. They're gonna scare them into action. They mean the fear of an insurrection from the people will probably override all the bribes that those those government officials probably took, right? Yeah, they're probably happy to get paid off by Jared and his, you know, private equity fund. But if the people are knocking at the door. Mark Hayes (19:26.139) Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Yeah. Mark Hayes (19:42.359) yeah. Brock Ganeles (19:50.84) with pitchforks and fucking torches. That changes political behaviour. We haven't done we haven't done that. We haven't done it. Mark Hayes (19:58.294) With the quickness. You see, they're running Jared and Ivanka out of there. That is so beautiful. Such a beautiful thing. I think it was three or four countries that are bucking on those you know, resort projects that Jarvanka is into and you know trying to enrich themselves with, you know. when the money count is done at the end of four years, I can't wait to see how much money they've made, you know, by utilizing the American government apparatus. it's gonna be disgusting again, just like it was the first Trump go round. And, you know, I I think they're doing gangbusters. you know, what, three, four, five X what they did the first time because now they know how to do it. Brock Ganeles (20:44.613) Well we better we're gonna have the claw back committee and we're gonna go after it and we're gonna look for the treason and we're gonna find and we're gonna take back the money if we have the right people in place. But think about how where's Orba in Hungary. You know, yeah, they voted Orban out in the end. But there were a ton of Mark Hayes (20:52.034) Yeah. Mark Hayes (20:55.564) Yeah. Mark Hayes (21:01.569) Right. Brock Ganeles (21:04.421) protest and people on the street headed up to that election. Like you knew Orban was gonna lose. He knew he was gonna lose because there was such a groundswell of people on the street, also emboldening other citizens to make sure they all went to the polls in an overwhelming way, which they did. So they didn't allow there to be any intimidation from the state of of Orban to fuck with that election because they were on the Mark Hayes (21:08.812) Yeah. Mark Hayes (21:12.685) Right. Mark Hayes (21:23.757) Yeah. Mark Hayes (21:33.815) Right. Brock Ganeles (21:34.455) street you know days weeks months in advance saying this is gonna be a fair election otherwise we're coming after you are we gonna do that here? Well you we you know we keep sleepwalking and project twenty twenty five keeps taking ground Mark Hayes (21:42.37) Right. Mark Hayes (21:50.037) Right. and it's not stopping. It's not gonna stop unless someone makes it stop. and like it doesn't seem like the cavalry's coming. just in my opinion. I like you know, I'm tired of us sitting back waiting, right, for someone to do something. No one's no one's coming. Brock Ganeles (22:13.285) There's so little heroism, right? Like, this is where I mean, I know this is minor, Mark, but like, this is why I'm so mad that those remaining three senior reporters for 60 minutes, on-air reporters, Leslie Stahl, and I forget the other two, decided today that they were gonna stay at 60 Minutes because they didn't want it to die. It's like Leslie Stahl, it's dead. Mark Hayes (22:36.526) Yeah. Brock Ganeles (22:40.555) Now you're just now you're sullied by it. Your reputation's destroyed because now you're just part of a propaganda network and a show that has told us that it can only operate to the pleasure of Donald Trump. Therefore, your reporting has lost any validation from any of us. So what are you doing? Why didn't you make the heroic step to say, I'm out of here, and make a statement on free speech and the fourth estate? Mark Hayes (22:44.279) Right. Mark Hayes (22:51.246) Right. Mark Hayes (22:59.252) Right. Right. Brock Ganeles (23:10.559) But instead to say I'm gonna roll along and be in be doing reporting on stories that have to be vetted with what, Stephen Miller in advance? Like that's that's the work you're doing? That's what you think saving 60 minutes is? No, sixty minutes has to die. I'm sorry, we're in a civil war. It has to die. It's on the side of the Confederacy. Stop trying to save it. Mark Hayes (23:20.162) Yeah. Mark Hayes (23:25.844) Right. Right. Mark Hayes (23:32.779) Right. Right. I mean, did you see Scott Pelly's statement that they released even on the CBS website? Where he Brock Ganeles (23:40.835) I didn't see the statement. I heard s I saw some snippets and I you know, kinda got the I mean Mark Hayes (23:46.514) my god, they were telling him to inject political bias into some stories and to include some untruths. I mean Brock Ganeles (23:56.474) But they're telling Leslie Stahl the same thing and she decided to stay. Why? What are you doing? Where are you? Well this is this you're eighty fucking years old, Leslie Stahl. Like this is what you want this is your legacy. You stayed on sixty minutes when it as it flipped to a propaganda network. Mark Hayes (23:59.796) Right. Right. You can't tell me. Mark Hayes (24:07.352) Right. Right. Mark Hayes (24:14.327) Right. Brock Ganeles (24:14.817) Okay. You went to work for Goebbels in nineteen thirty eight because you thought you, you know, could tell some really good tell some really good stories about, you know, white Germany. Like it's just it's so idiotic. And that's the like the lack of heroism just in little in little ways. Mark Hayes (24:20.406) Could make a difference. Right. Right. Mark Hayes (24:32.406) Right. Right. And it's disgusting. Brock Ganeles (24:34.093) It's gonna come for all of us, Mark. We'll have our day. We're gonna have to like whatever, sacrifice big like it's just gonna come for all of us. You have to sacrifice in small or big ways. But if you roll over, you're complicit to in my mind, you're just on the other side now. You made your choice. Mark Hayes (24:44.472) Right. Mark Hayes (24:49.908) No absolutely. You might as well be with Might as well be with the anarchists. You're you I mean you're sitting there propping up their propaganda. All right, buddy. Go ahead and quick hit me. What do you got? Brock Ganeles (25:02.433) what do you think of the increasing controversy surrounding Graham Platner in Maine as the Maine Democratic Senate primary comes up? That the New York Times and some other outlets have written like real hit pieces on him, now saying that he had like weird behavior with some of his girlfriends. Mark Hayes (25:26.766) Does that surprise you? Brock Ganeles (25:28.579) It doesn't surprise me because if you had the Nazi tattoos and you like fought in like the Blackwater militia, Mark Hayes (25:32.512) Right. Right. Brock Ganeles (25:36.61) It doesn't no, nothing surprises me. I don't know if I believe you know, I believe part of you know, where there's smoke, there's usually fire, but I don't have the same level of belief in the New York Times that I used to have. So I don't know if there's an agenda behind it. I'm worried I'm always worried. So it's almost a a gut check on myself. I'm always worried that there's an agenda behind the stories because Platiner's more of a threat to Susan Collins. Mark Hayes (25:39.33) Right. Mark Hayes (25:48.769) Mm-hmm. Brock Ganeles (26:06.503) That there's someone behind the scenes trying to manipulate what gets to us and how it's positioned to us. I'm not a Platinum guy anyway, just because the Nazi tattoos lose me from the start. But I'll live with him over Susan Collins because I want Democrats to win the Senate. So it's a Mark Hayes (26:15.84) Right. Right. Mark Hayes (26:29.814) Right. Brock Ganeles (26:32.705) entirely a lesser of two evils thing for me. And I gotta get rid of Susan Collins because I've seen 24 years of how she's gonna vote and that affects the country. I just hate that we can't, you know, find candidates that, you know I mean once the guy the Nazi tattoos, it just and it should have been I mean it was a red flag from the beginning. So Mark Hayes (26:36.151) Right. Mark Hayes (26:41.088) Clown. Clown show. Mark Hayes (26:57.144) Susan Collins ruined my son's college graduation as the keynote speaker. I put my earphones in and listened to YouTube on my phone while she was speaking. Her voice was so annoying. Just having to listen to it. It was, it was, you know. I I was so disgusted. Ruined my whole weekend. Ruined my whole weekend. Brock Ganeles (27:19.481) That's a tough one, Susan Connells. Hopefully her commencement speak days are over and she gets swept away. I just wish you we could have found someone a little more, you know, leg legitimate to sweep her away. So Mark Hayes (27:30.638) Right. Right, she's very concerned. check this out. Members of Iran's World Cup soccer team have been granted visas to the United States, according to a couple of officials on Friday, clearing them to enter the US from their training base in Tijuana, Mexico. their first two matches are near LA this month. Are they you think they're gonna come? Brock Ganeles (28:00.186) I think they're gonna come. I think they're gonna come. I I find it i it's always interesting. Remember when the Cuban athletes would come way back in the Fidel Castro days and then like the baseball players would would defect and you know go for asylum? You know, it gets that weird thing. Mark Hayes (28:02.262) I hope they win the whole fucking thing. I hope they win it. Mark Hayes (28:09.858) Yeah. De fact, yeah. Yep. I have boxers too, some good Cuban boxers. Brock Ganeles (28:18.893) Yeah, it gets that that weird dynamic of like these athletes, we don't know their political stance. Like, they may hate the regime, right? We know a lot of people in Iran are against the regime. They're representing their country. They may not love their government any more than we love our government. So you wonder if Iranian Americans, you know, will be probably really supportive of the team and the players. The interesting thing on the Iranian team, if you recall, about a month ago, the Iranian women's soccer team was down in Australia. Mark Hayes (28:26.285) Right. Right. Mark Hayes (28:48.942) Mm. Yeah. Brock Ganeles (28:49.079) Remember they stayed there for a week and a and the war had just broken out and some of them didn't want to go back. And it's a really tricky position for them because I think they're threatened to go back because otherwise their families are threatened. But they as individuals don't really wanna go back. Mark Hayes (28:55.177) Back. Yeah. Mark Hayes (29:01.063) To their families, right. Mark Hayes (29:06.678) Right. I mean Brock Ganeles (29:07.045) to their home country. So I I don't know, I think us it's just weird. You never know how, quote, America is gonna treat them because me, I'm not against the players and the athletes. You know, I feel for them. They have a shitty government. They probably feel for us. Mark Hayes (29:18.57) No, no. Right. Right. So many people are feel bad for us. Whenever I meet people from other, you know, countries, they're like, my gosh, how are you guys dealing with this idiot? You know, that's the universal sentiment around the world is he's a fucking boob. And that's the bottom line. And and we're even dumber for voting for him. putting him in office. Brock Ganeles (29:47.887) Think that I think we had to give these players visas. We had to you know, w w in in agreeing to host the World Cup, I think we had to go along with whichever teams qualified. We couldn't have like a veto power on what teams were allowing to play in the World Cup versus not. I mean, I wouldn't put it pus anything past Trump, but I think even he knew that would be like just kind of absurd public relations and that you have to grin and bear it and let the Iran team in. God forbid they win a bunch of games and ha and have a great run at the Mark Hayes (29:59.598) Right. Mark Hayes (30:13.249) Right. Brock Ganeles (30:19.813) Whole thing and do better than our team. Here's what you're gonna notice on the World Cup. Notice how many black athletes are starring for team for European teams. Check out the French team. Led by Killing Mumbapi and others, but all the the Eng, the UK, you know, the English English team, as racist as they are. Mark Hayes (30:20.736) Right, right. Mark Hayes (30:37.922) Full of Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Brock Ganeles (30:48.025) They're all gonna be cheering for their black athletes for the next six weeks. As long as they don't miss a penalty kick. As soon as they do, then they basically try to chase them out of the country with racist slurs. But until then, they they they treat treat them root for them proudly. Mark Hayes (30:50.444) Mm-hmm. Mark Hayes (30:58.262) Start throwing bananas at him. Mark Hayes (31:04.18) Right. Right. All right, buddy. Good place to wrap it up. What Brock Ganeles (31:09.411) Here's a good place to wrap it up. I got two and a half hours to tip off of game two. Three games away for the first K New York Knicks championship in fifty-three years. See ya then, Mark. Always a pleasure. Talk to you tomorrow. Mark Hayes (31:15.052) Yes, sir. Mark Hayes (31:18.946) Go new York go new York go. All right, buddy. Mark Hayes (31:27.02) Yes, sir. Revolution.