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SRA Survivor Exposes Hidden Tech & Vatican Underground Human Experiments | SS EP04, Part 2 · Man in America Podcast

• 0:13
  Speaker 1: Welcome to Man in America, a voice of reason in a world gone mad. I'm your host, Seth Hullhouse. So this is part two of my conversation with Max Lowen. Last week, we talked about her experience inside the underground Jesuit facility outside Rome, the subterranean levels of the Vatican, and what she witnessed in those rooms, the rituals, and who was in attendance, and how that connects to the broader pyramid of control that she says runs from these dark spiritual entities at the very top all the way down to the governments and the media and the entertainment and the institutions that we interact with every day. Now if you haven't seen part one yet, I highly recommend you go watch it.
• 0:53
  Maybe even first before you watch this one, it'll help make sense of this conversation. I'll make sure that link is in the description below. Max had also gone into the Jewish question, the role of Israel in the global plan, civilizational resets, fallen angels. It was the most wide ranging and honestly the most graphic conversation in the series so far. Now this week, we're gonna continue where she goes into the technology that was used on her inside those underground facilities.
• 1:18
  The encounter experimentation, the machines, the psychological programs, what she says that she saw that went far beyond what most people associate with government mind control. Now she also gets Hollywood, the music industry, how they function, how they're the arms of this same system, how the women's movement and the destruction of the family were engineered deliberately from the top down, but also what she believes are the signs that this plan, this evil plan for global dominance is failing and that the light and the good and the virtuous are winning. I also want to speak to a few different groups who might be watching. If part of you still looking for reasons not to believe this, I understand. No sane person wants these things to be true.
• 2:01
  I just ask that you listen. Just listen. Right? Pay attention to the details. Look at the patterns.
• 2:07
  Notice how her testimony echoes a lot of the other testimonies that we're seeing from people across countries, different institutions, different backgrounds. And if you're someone that had with your own fragments of memories, your own missing time, or nightmares, or things that you've never been able to explain, just be careful with this episode and take that seriously. Maybe watch it with someone that you trust or just stop if you need to. And if you're a parent or grandparent, just listen here. Please, please.
• 2:33
  This episode's not for children, so don't have them around while you listen. It gets, this series goes into some very dark places, but darkness is not the end of the story. Again and again, what we've seen from these survivors is not just horror, but clarity and courage and a kind of strength that had to be fought for. And that really matters because the point is not to just look at the evil, it's to understand it, to expose it, and then to refuse to let it have the final word. So if you're ready, take a breath, make sure you're in a safe place, and let's continue.
• 3:10
  This is Part two of my interview with Max Lowen. And so, now I want to go into a little more detail about some of these facilities and some of the technology, because again, this is also something I see as a recurring theme that you look into these, you know, what you mentioned dumb, right? Deep underground military bases, and that there's been whistleblowers coming out and saying there's vast, vast infrastructures underground with tunnel networks where I feel hear people talking about how you can travel across America in ten, twenty, thirty minutes. Right? That they have different kinds of technology they're using, that they have a whole hidden underground system where they have, you know, cloning programs.
• 3:58
  They have all kinds of things that are part of what's happening under there. And so, you know, you had mentioned some of the facilities that you saw that were under the Vatican, but also that tied into a Jesuit facility that I think that your uncle was involved with, but then also how those tunnels then connect to Israel, etcetera. And so describe some of that underground, I guess, technology and infrastructure that you experienced firsthand.
• 4:27
  Speaker 2: Yeah. There's I was put this would be called more MK Ultra. So if you saw Stranger Things, you know, I have that weird helmet thing on my head and goggles on, and I was put in machines that spun me so much that, you know, I became highly disoriented. It was like they had laboratories. So I saw actually a grave down there that was being experimented on.
• 5:06
  The Jesuits actually take eggs from a woman and sperm and they fertilize an embryo in a Petri dish. And then they enhance those embryos with certain physical prowess or intellectual abilities or whatever. They implant that fetus into a, they have women captive in these tunnels who are sadly just there to breed babies. And then when the baby's born, they have the infant watch as they kill the mother, the one who carried the baby to term. And then they raise these children in pods and they train them in different abilities.
• 5:49
  So I was trained in some of these abilities myself. Like if you ever saw the children show The Last Airbender, where these kids So that's definitely something that they can train. I've been trained with air. So they can train anything. And that's because of the way they raise the children or children, like I wasn't produced in a lab, but what they do, they can make us into super weapons, have incredible superpowers.
• 6:29
  They have technology to take consciousness from a person and put it in a different body. The Jesuits have made chimeras, So that's where they will try to create beings that are part human, part a different animal, and also implant into captive women. They have tested electromagnetic frequencies. And again, they'll test on people and they don't care if the people go crazy or die or suffer hideously. And these then are then used on us above ground in the general population.
• 7:09
  So like the five gs was of course tested well beforehand. And so they get things, they've tested vaccines in these facilities. They wanted to create autism for this time now because the autistic brain is a little better suited to AI. So they experimented, they flubbed it at first, people were too autistic. So they wanted to create like a high functioning autism, which now, you know, exists.
• 7:44
  God, anything you can imagine. And they tell you in movies. So if you go watch movies and they're doing some genetic experiments or laboratory stuff or whatever, all that's real. So they've had this kind of stuff. Cell phones, computers, these things existed well before they allowed us to have them.
• 8:10
  They want to study. So like I would, I still am, but I was highly telepathic, they would study that in me. And in my opinion, cell phones, they want to make an AI artificial version of every human ability we possess, which we all possess that ability. It's just been down in us. So the cell phone to me is a synthetic telepathy.
• 8:36
  The internet is a synthetic we're actually inter our brains form a natural internet interconnectedness. So they study that stuff. They know these capacities. They can create clone and they can grow that clone up fast, so it doesn't need like a lifespan. You you name it, they can do it.
• 9:08
  Speaker 1: And so
• 9:09
  Speaker 2: They also they also travel off planet, but it's not like in some spaceship that takes, like, a year to go somewhere. No. They have they have jump rooms and portals and all kinds of stuff like that too.
• 9:24
  Speaker 1: Which, again, as, you know, fantastical as this all sounds, if you just kind of play this out, if you imagine that there has been this group over thousands of years that has consolidated all of the ancient knowledge, all of the ancient history, the things that have been hidden, you know, previous technologies. Even if you start looking a little bit into Tartaria, and you start looking at energy and how energy was stored and used, and how the role of the fireplaces and the kind of little spires on towers, and the role of bells and sound, you can see that there's a lot of technology that was really destroyed and hidden from us. And so, if you took that information and extrapolated beyond that, you could see that, well, yeah, I guess if they've, in a lot of ways, control all the countries, they control the finances, they have an unlimited budget, They can build these massive deep underground facilities where they can hide all of this, where they can be, you know, the the best and the brightest minds can be not just found and plucked, but also just created in a lab to advance this technology, then you could make sense and think that, oh, yeah, that there could be things they're doing down there that seem like are from five hundred years in the future in terms of the technology that they could possess.
• 10:50
  Speaker 2: Yeah. And they can and have reset timelines. So they have traveled back from the future to alter things. I mean, it sounds like a sci fi movie, but it's true. And actually, that that GATE program, the gifted and talented program that they have in schools, that's CIA run, and they're seeking people that they can use to be scientists or, you know, geneticists or any kind of thing like that.
• 11:20
  And then the thing is that people are, they're compartmentalized. So they'll say, you're doing a really good thing. Your research is going to help humanity. And they, so these very bright people are plucked out of wherever they can find them or manufactured. And they do these, they invent things, they do things, they don't understand that they're working for the dark.
• 11:42
  So on the other hand, people that innocently invent some cool thing like cure for cancer, which they created and they don't cure, or, free energy devices, the ether, they've removed the ether from our awareness. Those people will get killed because they're just innocently saying, Oh, look, I discovered this thing and it can help humanity. You know, no, they don't want that. They have to control it. So, yeah.
• 12:13
  And I think Tartaria, I don't, you know, I'm sort of learning about it myself, but it looks to me like another time they reset us. They also reset us with a great flood. The Noah's Ark story, that flood story is in every culture around the world. Pyramids are in every culture around the world. They say, oh, well, slaves, you know, slaves did not put those structures together.
• 12:39
  That that's a technology we couldn't do that today because we've existed before and we've been reset before. And there's so absolutely, I think you're you're you're spot on. And this one here is another such time where they wanna reset us. And they tell us we came from cavemen and whatever. That is absolutely ridiculous.
• 13:03
  But we're not, by any means, the most advanced version that has lived this earth. We're kind of a actually a much lower, less advanced version, honestly, than has existed before and has been wiped out and reset.
• 13:18
  Speaker 1: Oh, I I agree completely. And I was just remembering I mean, I as a kid, I think it was either the first or the second grade. And I remember this actually in a very vivid way. I was taken into a room with a woman that ran this program called the enrichment program. And I was taking this little room, and I think I might have had some headphones on, and I did some testing, and they'd asked me questions and logic problems and everything.
• 13:43
  And I was, in my whole grade, there's maybe, you know, five or six of us that were put into this thing called the enrichment program. And then we were, every Friday, instead of doing normal school, we were taken to a different school. And we had a specific, curriculum and program that was, like, advanced logic logic problems, different kind of game. It was fun. I enjoyed it.
• 14:08
  I mean, I was a kid. It was had my buddy was in the class, and it wasn't like they're doing weird, strange stuff. But in kind of retrospect, we play kind of, like, buzzer Jeopardy games for trivia. We were learning typing and computer skills at a young age. A lot of logic based problems and and, you know, creative solving.
• 14:28
  And the funny thing is, is that I think because I hated the typing, because I was always much more of right brain, I didn't like that kind of stuff. And I got really behind in my typing courses and signed up dropping out in like the fourth grade. Because I was like, this is this is like extra homework. It was supposed to be fun, but now they're making me learn how to type and I want to go to art class. I want to go play with paper mache.
• 14:49
  And so I dropped out of it. But I think that that was probably one of those programs that was you know, even though the woman that ran it was lovely, and she might have just been doing what she thought was the best thing to help these children. But I think it was probably one of those feeder programs that who knows what would have ended up coming out of it.
• 15:07
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think you're fortunate you dropped out.
• 15:10
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Thank my rebellious and my lazy nature for that.
• 15:16
  Speaker 2: Yep. Yep. But they even, they even watch kids, in these I I hate video games. But these, like, very realistic video games where you shoot people up and you do stuff. They will they have a backdoor to everything, by the way.
• 15:32
  So if you think you're you got an email that they can't read or whatever, I mean, think again. But they look at how kids are playing these games and they'll pluck kids from there too if they have psychopathic tendencies or they're brutal or they're really good shots or whatever. You know, they're always scanning for, you know, someone that might serve them well. And again, most people will be doing that, but not know that they're working for a satanic global call. Yeah.
• 16:05
  Speaker 1: That that makes sense. Now that you have Roblox, and you have these games that where it's just create this world from nothing, and that's one thing. But also, yeah, the the violence, even pornography that works its way into these games. I mean, know, certain games, you can hire hookers and do all kinds of stuff like that. You know, like Grand Theft Auto, where they give you a character in this open world.
• 16:30
  You can go rob a bank. You can go murder people. And I'm sure it's a great tool to see Yes. What comes out of that person's own own freedom, free will, when you give them the ability to do anything with no consequence.
• 16:45
  Speaker 2: Yep. And that's who will make it to the top. The people that are willing to do anything regardless of the consequence. So psychopathy, brutality, that stuff is rewarded. I think the average human could probably, when I say it, go, Oh, right.
• 17:04
  Yeah. Like, why do the worst people seem to rise up in positions of power and the good people get nowhere? Well, that's the system. That's how it's set up.
• 17:12
  Speaker 1: It's a political ponderology. Right? It's the
• 17:15
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Like like you mentioned earlier that you had interviewed Kathy, who's a dear friend of mine. And, you know, her father was a generational was a pedophile and was sending porn with her in it through the mail and he got caught. And what did they do? They said, well, give us your daughter for the CIA Monarch program and you'll have immunity.
• 17:39
  And in fact, we'll make you rich. You know, we'll give you money. Well, you know, you can keep on making your porn. So that's rewarded.
• 17:48
  Speaker 1: And so looking at this system that let's just say that you're an entrepreneur, and you start a company that grows. And and before you know it, you've got a company that's worth, you know, $500,000,000. And you're on this trajectory to really get into those upper levels of society, but you're someone that maybe came from from nothing. Or say you're somebody that is you know, was like the high school basketball team leader, popular valedictorian in college that ends up getting into a political career and starts raising up an influence and power. Is it that there is a and not to say that basically not not to say that anybody who has any kind of power at a high level is evil and corrupted, but if you look at the amount of control they have over society, over banking, over who's a celebrity.
• 18:42
  Right? You know, why is it Jim Jim Caviezel, who's speaking out of this, will never be an a list celebrity in Hollywood. Right? Is it that there if you get to a certain level, there's some sort of glass ceiling that you can only cross over if you become compromised? If like, how does that how does that work?
• 19:03
  How do they maintain this this power structure?
• 19:07
  Speaker 2: Well, with companies, when one is successful, you know that the bigger company always buys them out. Right? And if you refuse, jeez, something will happen and your company will go under. Like, there will be a way that you yeah. And yes.
• 19:21
  So for example, to be in a presidential or prime minister or position of power such as that, you must be in a ritual where you rape and sacrifice a child. So, yep. You have to be willing. There was a video of this Dutch guy, I think. Forget his name, Yeah, something the banker.
• 19:49
  And he describes it very well. He got to that level and he couldn't do that because he had enough morality not to. So people may not want to do that stuff, but the higher you go, the more you're going to have to if you want to be in the club, you have to be in the club.
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: And in terms of, say okay, you look at the positions of power that have great influence over society, obviously, you have political power, you have financial wealth. You have the, say, commercial or, you know, company level power. Like, you know, to say that you have a technology company that's got a big government contract. That that those are levels of power, right, that they need to make sure that you're not speaking out against them. But then also, you look at one of the biggest seats of power in terms of shaping our culture and the programming, so much of it is coming out of Hollywood, the music industry.
• 20:54
  And that's where if you look at even Bob Bob Dylan Bob Dylan saying, yeah, he sold his soul to the devil. Right? And you see this coming
• 21:01
  Speaker 2: They all out say that.
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: A lot. So how does how does that work? I mean, what what what can you tell us about, say, Hollywood and the music industry in terms of how these systems are set up?
• 21:13
  Speaker 2: That's, humans are, we're herd animals we mimic. Children copy, you have a child, I have a child. Children copy everything you do when they're little, don't they? They have the fake cell phone and they pretend they copy. So Hollywood is to socially engineer humanity into their desired agenda.
• 21:35
  So what these people wear, what they say, what's cool, what they do, young people will mimic and copy it. And so it's absolute that's what it is. And some of these Hollywood people are put in there for birth on. They're supposed to fulfill a certain role. And some have talent and they're recruited just like the talented scientists, you know, the talented musician.
• 22:01
  They have ways that people can be like the example that I'm thinking of is that poor boy, well, guess he's a man now, but Justin Bieber, who went in and had some talent. And then look what happened to him. He immediately got sexually abused and he got folded into that system and you can see he was this bright, talented little boy, and then he was destroyed within that system. So you can go in because you have talent or you can be put in from birth, but yeah, it's the social engineering arm for us to We're supposed to emulate these people and do what they do. Show us, TV shows, movies show us how things are supposed to be.
• 22:51
  So, you know, remember when it was cool when women smoked cigarettes or, you know, that engineering that said that, Oh, well, devalued being a mother. You know, oh, well, motherhood is stupid. You need to have a career and go to work. And you know, like they'll shape what we consider the right way to be or even morality, you know? So that's the point of them.
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: Yeah. And that's always I've always been very fascinated with social engineering and and studying people like Bernays, Freud, or even the cigarettes is there was a campaign that they wanted to expand cigarette sales. And of course, there's like the there's always the simplistic kind of, let's make more money, which is the easy way to explain it to the public, but then there's much larger social engineering, I think, initiatives above that. But even with cigarettes, they kinda combined the role of cigarettes as a way of creating these these women's rights movements where because cigarettes, you know, up to a certain point, were really only for men, and it was considered dirty for a woman to smoke a cigarette. And so then what Bernays came in and did is they rebranded cigarettes as I think they called them Freedom Sticks is what they they they had they created a new term for cigarettes, and it basically was in they had this kind of march in this, big parade in New York, and they got all these female socialites to smoke these cigarettes and had all this media coverage around it.
• 24:17
  And it was this act of this big act of women the women can do what the men are doing too. The women can smoke the cigarettes because a woman smoking a cigarette was her way of claiming her freedom as a woman. And so they then opened up half the population to be now consumers of cigarettes. But with that, they also created, I think, lot of the seeds of the the women's rights movements and saying that, you know, women should be able to join the workforce. Women should be able to have equal power as men.
• 24:45
  And I'm, you know, I'm someone that, like, I value the role of women in society, but you can't deny that they fundamentally change the role of women. Whereas I was just talking to my mom about this yesterday, and we have a lot of friends and, you know, that that, you know, whether they're my age or a little bit older, they've got children, and they're struggling because these women have these really good careers or working, but they're realizing that their kids are being taught terrible stuff in school, and they're so conflicted that, oh my goodness, like, what's gonna happen to my child? And but they they won't give up their career because maybe they're a doctor, maybe they're a scientist or whatever it is. So they've been they put their kids in daycare at a very young age. And their kids are then raised by the state because the husband and the wife are both very career driven, and they're successful, but it's at the cost of that child.
• 25:35
  Speaker 2: Right. And that was the plan. You know, you can tax the entire population, number one. You devalue motherhood and you make it, you know, and children being indoctrinated by the state at earlier and earlier ages is what they want. And they want to break attachment because attachment is the single most important thing for us humans.
• 25:57
  They've done studies with baby monkeys where they separate them from a mother and they give them a choice of a wire mesh mother with a bottle of milk and a wire mesh mother covered in soft terry cloth, and the baby monkeys will starve but cling to the soft fake mother, because attachment is that important. The first three years of a child's life, they're supposed to be with a mother or a father or whoever, you know? And so they want, I mean, look at hospital births. That's a great way to break attachment. You know, when I gave birth back in the early 2000s, I had to fight to keep my baby on my body.
• 26:39
  They kept saying they wanted to put her in the other room with the other, what the hell is that? Where you give, that was inside you is born and comes out and you're supposed to put them in a little bassinet with rows of other babies behind a glass. That is the worst thing you can do for a newborn baby. Look at every mammal, their babies are all over them. You need that touch.
• 27:06
  So they do the exact opposite because that creates a more easily dissociated mind controlled slave in the future. So the feminine, you know, Gloria Steinem was a CIA asset. That was all staged and fake. Now it's, you know, what started out again, I think organically that movement started out good because it was, you know, women should have the right to vote and the right to own property and same rights as men. But then it morphed, they took that and they morphed it into something that served them.
• 27:40
  And the children pay the price and then the next generation is in the palm of their hands because of it.
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: Well, then you also had Doctor. Spock in his his books and and all that influence on And it's funny because, know, we, you know, we try to live these principles. And so my wife and I, you know, we work from home. And my wife, she kind of comes in as needed for special projects. But, you know, she's also we have the kids.
• 28:07
  And, so we homeschool our kids. They spend their day running around our property, just with dogs and chickens and climbing trees. Even at night, it's funny because, so we've, my, I have a two year old and a five year old, but the two year old's still nursing. She's just, she loves it, which is good for her. But I've been, I've been in the guest bedroom for the past year, because we got to a point where it's like, well, the kids, like, especially my youngest, she wants to be with my wife even through the night.
• 28:35
  And so I was like, okay, well, I'll go sleep in the guest bedroom. And so now, at least at this stage, both of the girls sleep in our king bed with my wife. And I'm very happy about it because I sleep well through the night, I'll get woken up. I know that for these girls, that that's that's a really, really important time to bond with with my wife and with their mother. When they have that, they fall asleep with her, they wake up with her, and it's just and they're they're literally with us the entire day.
• 29:03
  We won't be working, and they might come in and and, you know, say a few things, and we have a nanny that helps out so we can both work when needed, but we're still at the home. We're still having meals with them. We're still always there for and taking breaks to go do things. But you can see those, like, if I look at how our way of doing things is just so different than people that we know that are both working careers. The kids are in day in daycare from even from, you know, six or eight weeks, sometimes they have to go back to work and they have to figure out a solution.
• 29:37
  I'm thinking, how damaging is that for these children?
• 29:41
  Speaker 2: Extremely, extremely, extremely damaging. And our society is set up that way. We're not supposed to live in two person, two parent families. We're supposed to live in big tribal extended families. So that wouldn't be an issue at that point, you know?
• 29:57
  And you know, I've lived all over the world and I've seen different cultures and I've even spent time in tribal cultures in the Peruvian Amazon, and they all sleep in one big mattress or bed like they'll be that's normal. What the hell, you put a baby in a crib in a separate room by themselves after they've been part of a woman's body for nine months? Like, that's cruel. And let them cry it out? That's ridiculous.
• 30:28
  That's torture that breaks a child. Again, that's what they want. That's what they want. They want unattached, traumatized, dissociated people who are indoctrinated from the earliest possible age who don't have a loving connection and the support of a family because again, that's the easiest type of person than to manipulate mind control and form into whatever you want. Exactly.
• 30:59
  They break us down in MK Ultra in rituals. They break us down so they can build us up again in the way that they want. And this is what they do to the human, regular human population by these kinds of things.
• 31:14
  Speaker 1: When you even mentioned the hospital system, so both of our children were born at home with a midwife. My youngest, I actually helped, midwife was running late, or actually, my wife's labor was only about an hour. So I actually had, I got to help deliver my second child. Like I was actually there, we had our midwife on speakerphone, and I was, I helped kind of receive her and, you know, that whole process. And it was one of the most profound experiences in my life to just be there in that moment, let alone being able to fall asleep in our bed that night and have this newborn sleeping, you know, with my wife.
• 31:51
  And it's just you can see how the breaking of all these things has really, really, really caused so much trauma. And even, you know, how a lot of these younger, you know, women these days, they get epidurals, right? So they they're getting blasted full of drugs, so they don't get experience the the process of delivering the child, or they're just giving them c sections. They'll say, oh, your baby's gonna be really too big. So it must be a you have to have a c section.
• 32:20
  Cause it's like, oh, okay. So yeah, before C sections, baby just got stuck in moms and everyone just died. Right? It's like, before the modern C section came along, no baby over eight pounds could have could have actually been born naturally. It's just ridiculous how deep this has gone.
• 32:35
  Speaker 2: Well, think about I always laugh at this. The doctor says, I delivered the baby. I beg to differ. I delivered that baby, not you.
• 32:46
  Speaker 1: Well, it's funny because with my wife at first, I said, Oh, I delivered the baby because I was used to that language. And then she was like, Well, Seth, we delivered the baby, actually. Delivered the baby, you helped. And I was like, Okay, so I to reframe Yeah, how I talked about
• 33:02
  Speaker 2: and children are our most precious resource. And when you look at a child, you walk down the street, you see a cute toddler or baby and everyone goes, oh, you know, essence of a child is who we really are before they get ahold of us and, twist us unnaturally. That joy, that spontaneity, that vulnerability, that open hearted love, children will come up to you and say, hi. This is the true human being and they have done everything to snuff that out. So we need to take that back.
• 33:41
  We need to restructure the way we do everything because experts tell us it's all purposefully, actually the opposite of what we should be doing. And
• 33:54
  Speaker 1: this is what you mentioned before, that there's a lot of things, a lot of indicators that you have that you see that show you the evil is losing, and that the good is actually the righteous is actually in a process of reclaiming. And I see it too, because if you look at if you look at all the different systems that they have used to engineer people, you know, the public school system, the Hollywood entertainment industry, all these different things, the medical industry. Obviously, a large portion of the population is just hook, line, and sinker going along with it, but I'm seeing that there is a huge movement of people that are homeschooling, that are moving out to the country, and they're becoming self reliant. They're raising chickens or growing their own food. They're touching the soil.
• 34:48
  They are having home births. They're they're if they're sick, they're not going to the doctor to get some sort of pharmaceutical drug. They're learning how to use natural remedies. I mean, so they're rejecting Hollywood. They're they're no longer watching these these movies.
• 35:03
  They're no longer, listening to that kind of music. And I can see that there is this, it's, you know, I'd say that's the great awakening, right? It's Yeah. It's this movement of people. Really, I think that it goes back to being human again.
• 35:17
  Right? Just just actually going back to being what it means to be a human because they they've taken that away from us. And so I wanted to see just what your thoughts are and your perception of that, of this movement we're seeing.
• 35:32
  Speaker 2: I fully agree with you. I think they wanted the final Great Reset, and it's not. It's the Great Awakening. And every so I consider convent, as I call it, a satanic ritual that they did on us, nine eleven, all of these things. Well, that actually woke a lot of people up, as many as fell for the bioweapon injection.
• 35:53
  A lot woke up. And now parents aren't taking, I mean, the rate of taking their kids in for these injections has gone way down. People are seeking more natural healthcare, which used to be healthcare, right? You're right, people are growing their own food. So the more they try and destroy the global food supply or poison it, the more people are growing their own food.
• 36:17
  I even see it with this oil thing. Like I suspect that this will lead people to develop free energy solutions because you just have to tap into the ether and bring it down. So that's why I see that we have already won the war because every dark thing they're trying to do is actually flipping, backfiring, and making us a step forward, bringing us a step forward. So I'm very optimistic. I think the war is over and we have won.
• 36:47
  And what we're just still seeing the cray cray playing out on the stage, and they're going to try everything as they circle the drain. So I would say to people, okay, know the truth, but don't get hooked on their fear porn because that's also something they'll put out a scary headline. And then if we attach to it and have fear that's feeding their system, that's they're losing that. So focus on what you can do in every way for yourself and be the healthiest you can be. Heal your traumas, heal your body, eat good food, sleep, dance, laugh, love, you know, play with your children.
• 37:31
  Be the human that they don't want you to be. And let's just reclaim this planet is ours. How dare they make us pay for living on it or or for the water. And, you know, the the latest the latest, I think it was the EU, that globalist organization, somebody was saying like, oh, well, you know, oxygen isn't free. We should charge for it.
• 37:52
  I knew they were going to get to that point. You know, it's like, no, we have to say no and be moral because they're immoral. And the solution to that is to be moral. Behave morally in every small, medium, and big way that you can, no matter what the cost, because if we all do that, that's the end of them. They can only keep this going with our participation, consent and compliance.
• 38:19
  So revoke it.
• 38:21
  Speaker 1: Which is it's just amazing, because this is these are a lot of what I'm talking about. These are all things that I've my wife and I really, we've just discovered on our own journey, like we went from being, Hey, you know, I remember when Trump was first coming in, Hey, this guy's from the outside, he's gonna fix things. He's not one of them. And then realizing that, wait, no, the whole system is controlled. And that's actually part of the, part of the PSYOP is to get all these people convinced that, again, you mentioned the Savior, the Savior mechanism, right?
• 38:50
  And what we've come to, and it's really actually very freeing is that it just comes down to just being human again. Actually, we've, we bought the domain humanagain.com. And I think we've got up some plans for me writing a book about it and some doing some things, maybe a documentary or something about this exact thing, because that's what I've come to, is that that is the the best thing that we can do to defeat the evil is to do the exact things that you're talking about, become self reliant, build strong communities, take control of the raising of our own children, bring families back under one roof again, right? Multi generational family living, bringing that back together, getting back to producing our own food, growing our own food, raising animals, learning traditional skills, you know, getting back into just, human creativity and ingenuity that comes from making something out of wood or clay. And that's, and that's just, that's what we've been so focused on.
• 39:50
  It's, like, as part of what this program is, is I I cover a lot of the dark and scary stuff because I think it's part of what needs to be done. Like, your story is a story that for a lot of people that's really dark, but I always, always try to walk through that, but then come out on the other side, frame it properly, give us back the control and the power that we should have had all along and help people realize that, okay, there's some scary stuff going on, but I know the path. I know the way to get back to a stability and get back outside of this system. I think that every one person that steps forward and does that becomes one less person they can control. And I think that that's what this is, is it's enough people moving outside that system and saying, I will no longer comply.
• 40:44
  I will not wear your mask. I will not take your vaccines. I will not participate in your Hollywood, in your music industry, satanic ritual and spellbinding, crap that you put out. And so, you know, we we got a piano recently where, you know, we've commonly, we've got classical music playing on a vinyl record player in our home. You know, we've got no LED lights.
• 41:06
  We've got natural lights. And and and so it's just and and it's not just us. This is it's a whole movement of people that are moving back to this. And that that gives me a lot of hope, actually. That is, I think, very significant, in looking at the indicators of good versus evil in this battle.
• 41:22
  Speaker 2: Yeah. We've got this because we love, and they don't understand that. And they think it's a weakness. It's our greatest strength. So I see things changing going forward for the better.
• 41:35
  It's bumpy. But you know, when psychopaths die, they're going to try and tear everything down with them. But ironically, they're tearing down their own stupid system. So go ahead, you know.
• 41:47
  Speaker 1: Exactly. So Max, as we're I think this is a great kind of energy to kind of round up the discussion. I want to pull your website up, before we kind of wrap up here. So your website is unbroken.global, and I'll make sure that link is in the description. And so for people that are watching and listening, this is where you can find your interviews, your, your classes.
• 42:13
  You offer a membership, right, so people can actually join and get more kind of intimate access with you and and look at healing. These also have you have an option to donate. So if you wanna support what Max is doing, and I guess, Max, why don't you tell us, you know, what what can they find on your website? What what are some of the things that you're offering people?
• 42:30
  Speaker 2: So there's a lot of interviews at this point of me. And you know, so you can learn about things like the Vatican and SRA. I have interviewed a lot of other survivors, whistleblowers, healers, teachers, anyone who brings, information, truth and solutions. So there's a ton of free interviews on there. Then some, a few are called premium because they're for members only.
• 42:59
  And the membership, it really got born, because we need community for people like us who are awake to this situation and somewhere where you can be with other like minded people and talk. And so every month we get on a Zoom together and we talk about, you know, when it was the Epstein thing, we talked about that. We, it's a really, really nice community. And so, and then it's a, you know, it's a small amount to be a member and that helps me like pay the website costs and, you know, what it takes to do the interviews and whatnot. And then I do seminars.
• 43:34
  So I've done a seminar on the Vatican on what is satanic ritual abuse, on mind control, on how to unplug from the matrix. I did one recently called the hidden hierarchy, sort of explaining the the pyramid of power and the system behind the systems. So if you go to the classes tab, you can you can purchase those again for a small amount. But, yeah, it's recorded seminars. And then there's I think it's called services.
• 44:06
  Yeah. They're the seminars. And they're usually an hour and a half or two hours long, and there's a lot of good information in them. So people attend live and it's recorded after. People's faces are blurred out, but there's a lot of great Q and A that you're going to hear when you watch these.
• 44:24
  And then I myself, you know, I became a psychologist. I've worked my entire life with trauma, PTSD. So I help, I have a lot of survivors who come to me for counseling, for help. So that's something else I offer if people are interested. And yeah, generally, I just want to do my part, because I didn't go through all of that nightmare just to, you know, sit in a corner rocking and sucking my thumb.
• 44:58
  I want to bring my dream is to bring down the Vatican.
• 45:05
  Speaker 1: Pretty, So
• 45:06
  Speaker 2: That's my little on my bucket list there.
• 45:09
  Speaker 1: Well, it's, you know, shoot for the stars, right? I mean, and maybe the thing is,
• 45:15
  Speaker 2: is maybe
• 45:15
  Speaker 1: it that all you have to do is just allow them to bring it down on their own and just help facilitate the things that help kind of chip away at the foundation of these institutions, which I think is what you're doing. So, yeah.
• 45:31
  Speaker 2: And just a quick thing, just remembered to put a plug in. I'm speaking at the Galactic Spiritual Informers Conference, G SIC. It's in The UK in September. There's other people speaking like David Ike and Billy Carson and others. And so if people are interested in going in person, it's always a great I spoke at them last September, it was in North Carolina, and they really put on a good conference there.
• 46:02
  So I encourage people to, you know, to maybe try and go to that because also just, it's so nice to get together in person with like minded people. So I hope to maybe see some folks there.
• 46:15
  Speaker 1: Well, good. Well, I'll put And
• 46:16
  Speaker 2: the my friend Kathy O'Brien will be there too speaking.
• 46:19
  Speaker 1: Oh, wonderful. Okay, I'll make sure the link for that is in the description. Well, Max, we're coming up on two hours, and I think we could keep going. But, I wanna be mindful of your time and the audience's time. Just thank you for thank you for what you're doing.
• 46:36
  Thank you for the work that you've done, the work that you'll continue to do. And I encourage people also, if there are people that are watching an interview like this, and they they have some of these memories, or they they think that they had some of this trauma they're just kind of tapping into, I I would encourage them to reach out to you because I know Kathy O'Brien has helped a lot of people and you as well that when you've been through that darkness, you can help others that are just starting to feel out the level of darkness that maybe they were exposed to as a child. Know a lot of these memories are hidden for quite some time and just want to encourage people that just to reach out to you on your website if they're going through some of that.
• 47:17
  Speaker 2: Absolutely. Well, thank you for having me and thank you for the work that you do because together we have shifted things and it's going in a good direction.
• 47:27
  Speaker 1: I agree. Well, thank you very much. Take care. Very, very nice speaking with you. What you just heard takes us about as far behind the curtain as most people will ever be willing to go.
• 47:45
  This woman was describing in detail a system that is running right now inside institutions that the whole world trusts, or maybe not you and I, but most of the world, with the names and the faces that everyone recognizes. And that's not easy to handle. I know it doesn't get easier for me either, but here's what I keep coming back to. Max is still here, right? After everything that was done to her, starting from before she was old enough to understand any of it, she's still here, she's still talking, she's still choosing truth over silence.
• 48:17
  And if she can do that, I think that the least that we can do is just be willing to listen. I'm not telling you exactly what you have to do with what you've heard tonight. I'm not saying you have to believe it, right, just follow your own discernments. But for me, I'm choosing not to look away from this stuff. I'm choosing to believe that understanding this information, like really understanding how these systems work and who they protect, that gives me more strength and clarity in this battle of good and evil.
• 48:44
  I want to know my enemy. And I think it can do the same for you too. So don't let this frighten you into some sort of paralysis. That's not the point. The point is to turn towards what is good, and what's actually within your reach.
• 48:58
  Pray, spend time with people that you love, hug your kids, your grandkids, build a community around you that the evil has a hard time hiding inside of. Strong and awake people are the real answer to what we're doing, what we heard tonight. Not fear, it's not despair, it's strength. And if you want to support this work, the most powerful thing that you can do is just share this episode with one person even and just talk about it. And if Max's story moved you, let her know in the comments.
• 49:25
  She's carried this for a long time. And I'm sure that your words matter more than you might know. Now join me though next Saturday night for the next episode of the Survivor Stories. Until then, stay grounded, guard your mind, protect the innocent around you. And don't confuse seeing the darkness with surrendering to it.