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BONUS RADIO: Get Ready for the Ultimate Celebration of America's 250th Birthday! · That KEVIN Show

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  Speaker 1: From the birthplace of radio's greatest era. Now from New
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  Speaker 2: Kevin McCullough, all right, welcome man. It is Radio Night Live,
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  Speaker 2: e being where we have all the fun. It's called
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  Speaker 2: Fun Friday for a reason. And it doesn't get more
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  Speaker 2: fun than thinking about two hundred and fifty years of
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  Speaker 2: incredible America and what we've accomplished. But I think it
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  Speaker 2: does get a little bit more fun. Christine Nicholas, I'm
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  Speaker 2: Kevin McCullough. Christine Nicholas is with us. Christine, I think
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  Speaker 2: it gets a little more fun when you realize we
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  Speaker 2: might be one night away from bringing home the NBA
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  Speaker 2: Trophy to New York City.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, Kevin, this is in New York City
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  Speaker 3: is electrified because of the next It is such a
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  Speaker 3: unifying force. It is everybody is happy, everybody is excited,
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  Speaker 3: you know. And I've been through a lot of world
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  Speaker 3: series which are exciting and fun, but there's something different
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  Speaker 3: about this. And I've also been through the Stanley Tuk
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  Speaker 3: when the Rangers won, which was amazing, Don't get me wrong.
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  Speaker 2: I mean these you know, we and the Giants Super Bowls,
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  Speaker 2: the Giants, you know, yeah, beating New England twice, that's
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  Speaker 2: kind of cool.
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  Speaker 3: That was awesome also, But there's something about the Knicks
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  Speaker 3: that I think.
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  Speaker 4: Were really like everybody's team.
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  Speaker 3: No matter what background you are, no matter you know,
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  Speaker 3: it's everyone's team and we love them, and you know,
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  Speaker 3: we've soured on them so many times because they just
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  Speaker 3: couldn't seem to get to the finish line.
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  Speaker 2: I was about to say, I think part of it
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  Speaker 2: is just it's been thirty years since we've ever seen
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  Speaker 2: them play in the month of June, so it's like, yeah.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, it's great.
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  Speaker 3: And you know, when the game was on Wednesday night,
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  Speaker 3: I went to the watch party at.
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  Speaker 4: Woman Rink in Central Park and that was exciting.
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  Speaker 3: It was hot, sticky, but it didn't matter, and people
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  Speaker 3: were just so excited.
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  Speaker 4: And then of course that come from behind twenty.
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  Speaker 3: Nine point lead, and they just never gave up. You know,
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  Speaker 3: they're a slow starting team, you know, in the beginning,
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  Speaker 3: my friends were like, oh my gosh, we're down tent
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  Speaker 3: now fifty.
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  Speaker 4: I'm like, you know what, it's the first quarter. They're
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  Speaker 4: not up yet. Yours a late risers, you know.
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  Speaker 5: What I mean.
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  Speaker 3: The coffee hasn't kicked in yet. So it always seems
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  Speaker 3: that way, like the first quarter is a little slow,
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  Speaker 3: and then we build a little bit, and then the
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  Speaker 3: third quarter seems to be the next favorite quarter, and
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  Speaker 3: the fourth of course.
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  Speaker 4: You know, but if they lost right when it was up,
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  Speaker 4: they were at.
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  Speaker 3: One point with just a few seconds left, and then
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  Speaker 3: it went the other way and then you know, but
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  Speaker 3: if they had lost by one point, they still could
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  Speaker 3: have walked off that court with their heads held toop.
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  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, and it still would have been an exciting
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  Speaker 3: game and you know what it was, So it has
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  Speaker 3: to be so devastating to the Spurs that if the
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  Speaker 3: Spurs went home, I mean, even if they won the game,
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  Speaker 3: I think their fan base would.
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  Speaker 4: Have been like, what the heck? Like the Knicks are just.
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  Speaker 3: So dominant, and it really would have been a case
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  Speaker 3: for we just ran out of.
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  Speaker 4: Time, but we won the game. But we did win
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  Speaker 4: the game. So here we are.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, okanobe, I think is is that incredible last.
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  Speaker 3: Time frontage of Yesterday's New York Post?
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  Speaker 4: Ohmg, I mean just perfect.
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  Speaker 2: Well here's here's here's my perspective on all of this.
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  Speaker 2: And as a longtime NBA fan, I followed the Magic
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  Speaker 2: Johnson Lakers in the eighties really hard. I lived in
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  Speaker 2: Chicago when Jordan took the Bulls to six championships in
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  Speaker 2: eight years, and that was that was a crazy run
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  Speaker 2: because the only the only reason they didn't win him
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  Speaker 2: in those two years in the middle was because he
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  Speaker 2: had retired and played baseball for a short while. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: but I will say this what I like about the
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  Speaker 2: Knixt team. And I've not watched much NBA for most
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  Speaker 2: of the last several seasons because I've kind of soured
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  Speaker 2: on the pro game overall for this reason. Generally speaking,
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  Speaker 2: NBA teams recruit one big name and they kind of
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  Speaker 2: put all the weight on his shoulders, and they kind
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  Speaker 2: of expect it to be kind of a star driven
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  Speaker 2: market where you buy the ticket to go see the
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  Speaker 2: Lebron or Kevin Durant or whoever. Yeah, so, and what
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  Speaker 2: we what we have not had in the finals in years,
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  Speaker 2: is a team that is relatively without somebody like that
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  Speaker 2: and is actually facing that.
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  Speaker 6: Now.
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  Speaker 2: The picture, the theatrics of this. On the other side
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  Speaker 2: of the floor, you have not only the MVP in Wimby,
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  Speaker 2: but you've also got but you've also got the defensive
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  Speaker 2: Player of the Year. So he takes two of the
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  Speaker 2: three big categories that usually go to three individuals. He's
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  Speaker 2: won two of them. So he is he is the
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  Speaker 2: biggest of the biggest superstars in the league right now.
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  Speaker 2: And on the on the knick side, you have a
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  Speaker 2: bunch of guys that I call him lunch pail guys.
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  Speaker 2: They show up, they clock in, they work their hearts out,
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  Speaker 2: and when the game is over, win or lose, they
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  Speaker 2: they go home knowing that they did their very best
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  Speaker 2: and because they don't have overwhelming size, and they don't
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  Speaker 2: have overwhelming speed. And they've even got the guy that
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  Speaker 2: comes off the bench that subs Towns at the five spot.
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  Speaker 2: He's a terrible free throw shooter. Yeah, he's a horrible
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  Speaker 2: free throw shooter. And you have all these deficits in
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  Speaker 2: the in the different players that we have, but you
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  Speaker 2: know what they have. They have the ability to do
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  Speaker 2: two things on a nearly miraculous level. One is never
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  Speaker 2: lose the extra effort that they give every time down
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  Speaker 2: the floor. It's it's I'm going to do it a
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  Speaker 2: little bit better than I did before. And the second
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  Speaker 2: thing is they have a bench that has at times
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  Speaker 2: during throughout the entire playoffs come in and said, okay,
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  Speaker 2: a lot is being expected of us. When the top
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  Speaker 2: five sit down, we're going to try to raise our standard.
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  Speaker 2: And none of them, none of them are superstars, none
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  Speaker 2: of them are demanding the big you know, massive Michael Jordan,
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  Speaker 2: Magic Johnson type of comparisons or contracts or anything else.
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  Speaker 2: That's who the other team has. And the other team
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  Speaker 2: is faster and bigger and actually is kind of built
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  Speaker 2: for one of those championship. I look at the three
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  Speaker 2: and the four spots for the Spurs, and I say,
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  Speaker 2: you know what, they are built almost identical to the
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  Speaker 2: bullsnus Jordan being a two guard. Their Jordan is really
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  Speaker 2: their five player, and then you've got the two big
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  Speaker 2: power forwards. It's kind of surrounding him. And they're a
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  Speaker 2: really well built team who had a better record during
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  Speaker 2: the regular season than the Knicks, and yet here are
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  Speaker 2: the lunch pale guys going to work. My favorite player
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  Speaker 2: in the NBA was Kurt Rambis and the reason that
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  Speaker 2: I loved Kurt Rambis was because he was a guy
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  Speaker 2: that was never going to make the All Star team,
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  Speaker 2: but he didn't not start for any team he ever
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  Speaker 2: played on because he was the hardest working guy on
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  Speaker 2: the floor. The Knicks are a whole team of hard
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  Speaker 2: working Kurt Rambises this year, and that makes the games
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  Speaker 2: exciting because it may be a different person stepping up
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  Speaker 2: and making the big shot this game versus the last game,
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  Speaker 2: versus the game before that. That's what we want to
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  Speaker 2: see as fans. We want to see a team that
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  Speaker 2: works together. They are so this is a big compliment
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  Speaker 2: to the coach, mister Brown. They are so good at
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  Speaker 2: making the extra pass The way you beat a very fast,
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  Speaker 2: big strong team like San Antonio is you don't have
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  Speaker 2: a ballhog. So when they get penetration up into the paint,
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  Speaker 2: they quickly find the open guy, and if somebody collapses
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  Speaker 2: on him, they and if somebody collapses, and if somebody
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  Speaker 2: collapses on him, then he finds the open guy. And
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  Speaker 2: they find the open guy after open and they make
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  Speaker 2: that extra pass and that's what gives them the opportunity
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  Speaker 2: to be successful. It is an exciting story that the
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  Speaker 2: Nicks have written this year.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a beautiful team to watch. The bench has
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  Speaker 3: certainly delivered their clutch, you know. And I have to
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  Speaker 3: tell you, I mean you talk about the Bulls. You know,
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  Speaker 3: Alan Harper's kid, Dylan Harper.
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  Speaker 2: He got to.
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  Speaker 3: Love watching him too, even though he's on the Spurs.
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  Speaker 4: He's a Rutgers guy. So there's a lot of love
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  Speaker 4: for there, really is.
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  Speaker 3: In fact, when I was in the crowd at a
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  Speaker 3: Woolman rink, I saw a lot of.
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  Speaker 4: Next jerseys, but with the Rutgers bracelet.
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  Speaker 3: One had a Rutgers T shirt underneath, you.
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  Speaker 4: Know, like he had a vest on.
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  Speaker 3: And I was like, yeah, I'm okay.
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  Speaker 4: We love our Dylan Harper, but from all with the
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  Speaker 4: home team, you know.
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  Speaker 7: So it's fun.
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  Speaker 3: To watch that family and that legacy live on totally.
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  Speaker 4: And yeah, they're just wonderful. All right, Hylan Bronson, what
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  Speaker 4: a gentleman.
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  Speaker 2: So here we here, we listen. We've got a great
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  Speaker 2: show for you, straight ahead friends. We're talking about two
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  Speaker 2: fifty two fifty two fifty. If you don't have two
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  Speaker 2: fifty fever yet by the time we're done tonight, you
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  Speaker 2: will stick around lots more Fun Friday, stay with us.
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  Speaker 7: What a little moonline you can do.
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  Speaker 2: It's Radio Night Live, yours Kevin mccollor, welcome back. It's
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  Speaker 2: Radio Night Live. It's the Fun Friday Edition. And Christine,
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  Speaker 2: you've been You've been taunting me with this, this temptation
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  Speaker 2: of talking about sale forth for weeks now and all
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  Speaker 2: the ships involved and everything else, and you know that.
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  Speaker 2: I just get so excited about this kind of stuff.
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  Speaker 2: And now we can speak to it affirmatively. Introduce our
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  Speaker 2: next guest.
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  Speaker 4: Happy too.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, Well, Kevin has grown up in a navy family.
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  Speaker 6: So our guest tonight, Chris O'Brien. He is heading up
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  Speaker 6: the very important, very exciting production of the tall ships
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  Speaker 6: coming for July fourth to celebrate America's two hundred and
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  Speaker 6: fifty ath sale forth two fifty Chris O'Brien, this has
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  Speaker 6: been quite an undertaking, and we've been talking about it
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  Speaker 6: for years. I, by the way, as a native New Yorker,
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  Speaker 6: was at the centennial the bi centennial Tall Ships in
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  Speaker 6: nineteen seventy six. Luckily my father had an office right
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  Speaker 6: there on Water Street, so we were able to go
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  Speaker 6: up and watch it, and I just remembered it for
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  Speaker 6: a lifetime, And you know, I remember my dad and
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  Speaker 6: mom saying, Wow, can you imagine how big it's going
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  Speaker 6: to be when we celebrate the two fifty, And I
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  Speaker 6: did the math and they're like, yeah, we know we
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  Speaker 6: won't be here, but but.
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  Speaker 4: You will be.
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  Speaker 6: So help us understand what you have planned for the
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  Speaker 6: two fifty.
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  Speaker 8: Yeah, Pleasure and Christine and Kevin, thank you so much
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  Speaker 8: for having me on. It's it's a pleasure to kind
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  Speaker 8: of share this story because it is it's just it's monumental.
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  Speaker 8: But it is so important for New York, it's so
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  Speaker 8: important for the nation. And you know, I look at
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  Speaker 8: it globally because there are so many partners from around
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  Speaker 8: the world that are that are coming here in an
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  Speaker 8: official way to mark America's two hundred fiftieth you know.
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  Speaker 9: The.
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  Speaker 7: Together. So we're a partner.
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  Speaker 8: We've partnered with the US Navy, and the US Navy
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  Speaker 8: will be hosting the International Naval Review and we and
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  Speaker 8: sale forth two fifties hosting the International tall Ship Parade.
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  Speaker 8: So we get the fund, we get the goodwill part,
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  Speaker 8: the international goodwill, the really fun celebratory part. Navy gets
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  Speaker 8: the official protocol part. And that's what that's what really
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  Speaker 8: puts these events, you know, on the map, as you know,
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  Speaker 8: as a main event for the United States of America
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  Speaker 8: to mark an incredible milestone for the nation and Christians.
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  Speaker 8: You like you're saying you remembered exactly where you were
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  Speaker 8: in the bi centennial. I love those stories and I
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  Speaker 8: hear those stories and I get choked up sometimes because
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  Speaker 8: it's like this is today, Well, what's going to happen
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  Speaker 8: here in July fourth? And while the ships are imported,
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  Speaker 8: it's it's our generation's moment, you know, to have you know,
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  Speaker 8: to come together as as a community here in New
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  Speaker 8: York as the host, but also as a nation and
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  Speaker 8: really as the world to mark this, you know, mark
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  Speaker 8: these milestones, you know for America, you know on our
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  Speaker 8: two hundred and fiftieth and and we joke also, yes,
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  Speaker 8: thank god, I'm not going to be here for the
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  Speaker 8: three hundredth.
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  Speaker 6: Oh stop, no, we we might be, you know.
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  Speaker 4: It's fay. You never know, you never know.
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  Speaker 6: It's like, how how great are coming in for the
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  Speaker 6: international Parade of Ships, which is what you're really working on?
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  Speaker 6: And how did they get picked or did they just volunteer?
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  Speaker 4: Like how does it work?
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  Speaker 7: Yeah?
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  Speaker 8: Well, so we have so there are a couple of
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  Speaker 8: different classes of ships, the tall ships. The class A
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  Speaker 8: tall ship it's the very large three hundred plus foot
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  Speaker 8: official vessel. So these tall ships are official naval vessels
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  Speaker 8: for you know, they train the cadets on their countries.
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  Speaker 8: So we have twenty one of those ships coming. It's
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  Speaker 8: really unprecedented. The they have this mission of training their sailors,
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  Speaker 8: making good leaders for their navies. But they have another
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  Speaker 8: mission it's and that's their international goodwill mission. So they
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  Speaker 8: come to your port as an official representative of their nation.
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  Speaker 8: And so I liken this almost like almost like the
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  Speaker 8: Olympics in a way, you know, the countries sending their
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  Speaker 8: best and brightest. You know, on the decks of the ships,
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  Speaker 8: which are kind of like the crown jewels of their countries,
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  Speaker 8: and so you know, to get so many gathered is
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  Speaker 8: incredible between so forth to fifty you know, at our
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  Speaker 8: twenty one and the and the Navy with the International
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  Speaker 8: Neighbor Review, we have forty six right now, forty six
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  Speaker 8: nations that are going to be represented here officially as
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  Speaker 8: we mark our two hundred and fiftieth and it's really
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  Speaker 8: just this incredible testament to you know that the founding
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  Speaker 8: principles of this country.
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  Speaker 2: You've also got a lot of aircraft that are going
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  Speaker 2: to be flying over the Blue Angels will be part
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  Speaker 2: of that. Of course, fifteen thousand US and foreign sailors inport.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, forget about Fleet Week. This is like this
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  Speaker 2: is flee Week on steroids, and this is going to
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  Speaker 2: be incredible. What will be the most optimal way for
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  Speaker 2: people to interact with the parade and how to see
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  Speaker 2: it and so forth, there's got to be like better
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  Speaker 2: places to be than others.
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  Speaker 8: Well it actually I don't know if there's going to
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  Speaker 8: be a bad seat in the house the you know,
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  Speaker 8: and your point is, so the International Aerial Review, led
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  Speaker 8: by the blue angels. The numbers haven't settled, but it
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  Speaker 8: we're counting one hundred and fifty aircraft or it will
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  Speaker 8: participate bad notes and that and it and it goes
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  Speaker 8: up and down, but it keeps going up. Late the
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  Speaker 8: last few weeks, the numbers keep going up, and so
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  Speaker 8: that will that will take place over top of the
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  Speaker 8: parade of tall ships.
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  Speaker 7: And so it's just going to be this moment.
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  Speaker 8: But you know, the viewing of of the main event,
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  Speaker 8: will say on July fourth, is really between the Arizonto
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  Speaker 8: Bridge and the George Washington Bridge, So either side New Jersey,
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  Speaker 8: New York City, come down to the waterfront and you're
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  Speaker 8: not there won't be a bad place to see what's happening.
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  Speaker 7: And you can look up. You see the jets.
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  Speaker 8: You look, you'll see you'll see the you know, the
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  Speaker 8: tall ship parade, which will extend the whole at one
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  Speaker 8: at its longest, the tall ship Parade will extend, you know,
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  Speaker 8: the ships will be in line parading north up the
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  Speaker 8: Upper Bay, up the Hudson River, so they'll be tall
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  Speaker 8: ships all the way between that fifteen mile stretch between
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  Speaker 8: the Verrizana and the George Washington Parade itself will take
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  Speaker 8: about two and a half hours to run, so if
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  Speaker 8: you're stationary, the ships will get to just as a
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  Speaker 8: point of reference, they'll reach the Statue of Liberty at
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  Speaker 8: about ten to fifteen in the morning and then so
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  Speaker 8: from there you'd count two and a half hours for
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  Speaker 8: the length of the parade.
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  Speaker 7: But you know, there are going to be.
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  Speaker 8: So many great you know, every place is going to
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  Speaker 8: be a great place to see it.
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  Speaker 7: But one area that is going to be.
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  Speaker 8: Particularly interesting is up at the George Washington Bridge. That
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  Speaker 8: whole area because as the ships come up to the
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  Speaker 8: George Washington they're going to be turned. They'll be tugboats
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  Speaker 8: assisting to turn the ships, and then they'll come back
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  Speaker 8: down heading to their berths and that crossing point of
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  Speaker 8: these ships asking each other, and it's just going to
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  Speaker 8: be it's a spectacle, you know, beyond belief. And then
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  Speaker 8: the ships will tie up and then they'll be open
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  Speaker 8: for free public touring. Fr Ee public touring the fifth
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  Speaker 8: through the seventh of July.
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  Speaker 1: From New York, It's Radio Night Live with Kevin McCullough.
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  Speaker 2: Welcome back. We are talking a little America two fifty
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  Speaker 2: as it pertains to Lower Manhattan this week. I'm very
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  Speaker 2: glad to have you with us. Christin Nicholas Kvia McCullough
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  Speaker 2: and Jessica Lappin are with us. We're talking about all
• 18:04
  Speaker 2: of the historical in fact impact of Lower Manhattan. And
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  Speaker 2: jessicat was noticing that one of the writers recently, Teresa
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  Speaker 2: di Chico Design, I think is how you say the name.
• 18:15
  Speaker 2: She wrote about the tavern culture of Lower Manhattan. I
• 18:20
  Speaker 2: mean they knew how to relax at the end of
• 18:24
  Speaker 2: the day, a good shot of whiskey, have a pianet
• 18:27
  Speaker 2: at France's. You know it all worked out well.
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  Speaker 9: Yes, in the seventeen hundreds, the taverns were the cultural
• 18:34
  Speaker 9: heart of the city.
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  Speaker 4: Hasn't really changed, it really hasn't it.
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  Speaker 9: Was places where you could drink and eat but also stay.
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  Speaker 9: As Christine you know, was mentioning, you know, people would
• 18:48
  Speaker 9: they had lodging at these taverns as well, and some
• 18:52
  Speaker 9: pretty historical things.
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  Speaker 6: And also here's a fun fact that I learned from
• 18:56
  Speaker 6: the article that you can access on the Downtown Alliance website.
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  Speaker 6: But one of the early bars from sixteen sixty four
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  Speaker 6: of Thetis statthis which you know it was Dutch, so
• 19:09
  Speaker 6: forgive my accent, but that became the English City Hall.
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  Speaker 4: So think about it. You had a pub, but.
• 19:17
  Speaker 6: Then upstairs in the meeting rooms that you were conducting
• 19:20
  Speaker 6: city business. And we have a pub that exists today,
• 19:24
  Speaker 6: a tavern, France's Tavern, which to me is one of
• 19:27
  Speaker 6: the most special places in New York City. And it's
• 19:30
  Speaker 6: similar where you can still eat, still drink, still enjoy.
• 19:35
  Speaker 6: But then when you go upstairs, Jessica tell our listeners
• 19:38
  Speaker 6: what they're going to see upstairs, because it is just
• 19:40
  Speaker 6: so fascinating.
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  Speaker 9: Well, there's a museum and they have some rotating exhibits,
• 19:43
  Speaker 9: but other artifacts just to remind people of the history.
• 19:47
  Speaker 9: And it is a very special place. Downstairs, while you're eating,
• 19:50
  Speaker 9: you're surrounded by these gorgeous murals that depict what the
• 19:53
  Speaker 9: neighborhood in the harbor was like back then.
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  Speaker 2: But it's thank you for plugging our website.
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  Speaker 9: If you go to downtown ny dot com, you'll find history,
• 20:03
  Speaker 9: you'll find walking tours, you'll find itineraries, you'll find places
• 20:08
  Speaker 9: to eat and drink beyond the taverns. But France's tavern
• 20:11
  Speaker 9: is still there. Others are long gone. There was Lovelace tavern.
• 20:15
  Speaker 9: You mentioned the Dutch, but Lovelace was the second governor
• 20:18
  Speaker 9: of New York and he got envious and had his
• 20:21
  Speaker 9: own tavern with his own name where they conducted business
• 20:25
  Speaker 9: as well. So it's it's you know, it's it's still again.
• 20:33
  Speaker 9: And I talk about Lower Manhattan, the old and the new.
• 20:35
  Speaker 2: You'll have the.
• 20:37
  Speaker 9: Cheekest hippos, brand new Michelin Star restaurant or bar, but
• 20:41
  Speaker 9: that yet you still have establishments that have been around
• 20:43
  Speaker 9: for hundreds of years.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, that's fascinating.
• 20:48
  Speaker 2: Jealousy of exactly.
• 20:51
  Speaker 9: Yes, we've got, yes, the Seaport Museum, and that's another example,
• 20:55
  Speaker 9: with all the maritime history next to the seaport itself,
• 20:59
  Speaker 9: which has been completely remade in a modern way with
• 21:04
  Speaker 9: top Shop, top notch restaurants and concerts on Peer seventeen,
• 21:09
  Speaker 9: and it's again you see that jextaposition everywhere you look downtown,
• 21:14
  Speaker 9: so please you should use our website as a resource.
• 21:18
  Speaker 9: In addition, we're going to be doing some art in
• 21:21
  Speaker 9: vacant retail spaces. We're calling it Revolutionary Reflections. It's still
• 21:26
  Speaker 9: being developed, but will be highlighting some of the lesser
• 21:31
  Speaker 9: known names, not necessarily George Washington or Hamilton, but some
• 21:35
  Speaker 9: of the other people who were involved and maybe a
• 21:39
  Speaker 9: little bit less well known.
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  Speaker 6: So Mike Joseph Warren, who we have actually talked quite
• 21:44
  Speaker 6: a bit about.
• 21:44
  Speaker 4: On the show. I can help it.
• 21:48
  Speaker 6: Jessica lappin your jem We are so happy not only
• 21:52
  Speaker 6: to have you on this radio show, but to be
• 21:53
  Speaker 6: overseeing the Downtown Alliance folks. Coming up next, we're going
• 21:57
  Speaker 6: to talk about, as Jessica mentioned, the old.
• 21:59
  Speaker 4: And the new.
• 21:59
  Speaker 2: I always ask the mid leaders of this when they
• 22:01
  Speaker 2: come on, and they always give me the same answer,
• 22:03
  Speaker 2: which is kind of disappointing. But I'm hoping Jessica will
• 22:05
  Speaker 2: break the streak. You've got all of downtown for yourself.
• 22:10
  Speaker 2: What's what's your favorite hang where you see see we.
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  Speaker 4: Love our children equally.
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  Speaker 2: Such a disappointing answer.
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  Speaker 9: And I can't even tell you that, you know, every
• 22:22
  Speaker 9: Wednesday you'll find me at this place because I try
• 22:25
  Speaker 9: to very purposefully eat in different restaurants, have drinks in
• 22:28
  Speaker 9: different spots because I need to know what's going on,
• 22:32
  Speaker 9: not just what's new, but how people are doing, and
• 22:35
  Speaker 9: chat with the owners of the restaurants or bars, or
• 22:38
  Speaker 9: chat with the manager of the retail shops, so that
• 22:41
  Speaker 9: I have a sense of what's going on.
• 22:44
  Speaker 4: So you can.
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  Speaker 6: So you're saying, we can meet you up at a
• 22:46
  Speaker 6: tavern probably you know.
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  Speaker 2: Every week.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, all I do love.
• 22:54
  Speaker 6: About the new and the old. So new coming up
• 22:57
  Speaker 6: next after Jessica, please don't go away because we have
• 23:00
  Speaker 6: Peter Christian Eigner coming on. He's one of the co
• 23:03
  Speaker 6: founders of a brand new app that will be launched,
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  Speaker 6: Revolutionary Trail or Echoes of the Revolution.
• 23:10
  Speaker 4: Which is going to tap into that younger set that
• 23:15
  Speaker 4: if you.
• 23:15
  Speaker 6: Follow Assassin's creative whatnot, this is my son's world, but
• 23:20
  Speaker 6: this is.
• 23:20
  Speaker 4: Going to turn on the history bug for them, I hope.
• 23:24
  Speaker 6: But Jessica up and thank you so much for joining us,
• 23:27
  Speaker 6: and we will see you soon.
• 23:29
  Speaker 4: My pleasure.
• 23:30
  Speaker 2: Thank you, coming right back from New York. Don't go anywhere.
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: Now from New York. Back to Radio night Life. You're
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  Speaker 1: Kevin mccollo.
• 23:50
  Speaker 2: Welcome back. She's Christine. I'm Kevin, and we are excited
• 23:53
  Speaker 2: to continue the discussion about America two fifty and particularly
• 23:57
  Speaker 2: New York and it's kind of.
• 23:58
  Speaker 7: Role in all of this.
• 23:59
  Speaker 2: And if you want to know more about some of
• 24:00
  Speaker 2: the destinations of the two hundred and fiftieth birthday and
• 24:03
  Speaker 2: what's going on, I would encourage you to check out
• 24:05
  Speaker 2: that Passport Life. The newsletter comes out tomorrow focusing on
• 24:09
  Speaker 2: Lexington and Concord, which is kind of cool because obviously
• 24:12
  Speaker 2: they played a big role. But Christine, we're staying in
• 24:15
  Speaker 2: New York. Introduce our next guest for us.
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  Speaker 6: Happy too, Kevin, folks, welcome Peter Christian Eigner. He's the
• 24:23
  Speaker 6: director of the Gotham Center for New York City in
• 24:26
  Speaker 6: New York City History, but he's also the co founder
• 24:29
  Speaker 6: of the Revolutionary Trail app which is why we want
• 24:32
  Speaker 6: to talk to you.
• 24:32
  Speaker 4: Peter. We just had Jessica Lappin on and she.
• 24:34
  Speaker 6: Was talking about the importance of Lower Manhattan in New
• 24:38
  Speaker 6: York City's history, but also how it's so modern and new,
• 24:42
  Speaker 6: and I think you are sort of toggling between the
• 24:44
  Speaker 6: two with this new app which is really fascinating and hopeful.
• 24:48
  Speaker 6: As Kevin and I are both mom and dad of teenagers,
• 24:52
  Speaker 6: we struggle to really make history cool. So now I'm
• 24:58
  Speaker 6: putting that on your plate. Help us out here, help us.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, sir Peter, we need your help. Absolutely happy to serve.
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  Speaker 5: So we created the NYC Revolutionary Trail, basically a freedom
• 25:12
  Speaker 5: trail for New York City, and that came out in
• 25:16
  Speaker 5: app form last summer.
• 25:18
  Speaker 2: There was a nice little profile.
• 25:19
  Speaker 5: In The Times if you all want to.
• 25:21
  Speaker 2: Check that out.
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  Speaker 5: Basically, it takes you from you know, through sixteen locations
• 25:26
  Speaker 5: in downtown Manhattan, which in the time of the Revolution
• 25:29
  Speaker 5: was basically New York City, and narrates the story of
• 25:34
  Speaker 5: wider New York's experience with the Revolution, from the lead
• 25:38
  Speaker 5: up to the war to the war itself, which for
• 25:40
  Speaker 5: New York was basically a ruling occupation under the British
• 25:45
  Speaker 5: to its re emergence as the first nation's capital. Then
• 25:48
  Speaker 5: we end the story with Washington's inauguration. So there is
• 25:52
  Speaker 5: a ton of history that happens in Lower Manhattan, not
• 25:55
  Speaker 5: just obviously the Revolution, but you know, the the argument
• 26:00
  Speaker 5: we make, the tagline we have for our project is
• 26:03
  Speaker 5: the city at the Heart of the Revolution. And Christine
• 26:07
  Speaker 5: already said that. I'm the director of the Gotham Center
• 26:09
  Speaker 5: for New York City History, so I'm allowed among my
• 26:11
  Speaker 5: tribe of historians to be a little bit more chest
• 26:16
  Speaker 5: thumpy than the average historian. But you know, New York
• 26:20
  Speaker 5: really is at the center of action across this period,
• 26:22
  Speaker 5: and we are cruelly, totally, unjustifiably overlooked.
• 26:28
  Speaker 2: In the history of the Revolution.
• 26:31
  Speaker 5: The war begins and ends literally in New York City,
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  Speaker 5: and there are all kinds of amazing stories and characters,
• 26:39
  Speaker 5: but also really important events that happened with the New
• 26:44
  Speaker 5: York City that are critical to this history history. So
• 26:47
  Speaker 5: what we did was we created this trail and it
• 26:49
  Speaker 5: takes You can download it right now on your phones
• 26:52
  Speaker 5: and they'll take you through this story. There's a website
• 26:55
  Speaker 5: that has much more information if you want to learn more.
• 26:57
  Speaker 5: And then, as Christine alluded to, we partnered up with Ubisoft,
• 27:01
  Speaker 5: the makers of the Assassin's Creed video game, which digitally
• 27:05
  Speaker 5: recreated the entire streetscape of Lower Manhattan in this period
• 27:09
  Speaker 5: for a new immersive interactive version that's going to be
• 27:12
  Speaker 5: called Echoes of Revolution, and that'll be coming out this summer.
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  Speaker 7: We're hoping to sort of move up the.
• 27:18
  Speaker 5: Deadline, but it'll probably be in mid May, shortly after.
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  Speaker 5: We actually released an exhibition at the Museum of City
• 27:26
  Speaker 5: of New York.
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  Speaker 2: That was based on this project.
• 27:29
  Speaker 5: So yeah, the idea is that you know, you can
• 27:32
  Speaker 5: take if you're traveling as a family, you can walk
• 27:36
  Speaker 5: through Lower Manhattan, you can learn all about this history.
• 27:38
  Speaker 5: And for the kids that maybe are less interested, we
• 27:40
  Speaker 5: trick them into learning the history of their country by
• 27:44
  Speaker 5: playing this little video game type thing where they can
• 27:46
  Speaker 5: shoot at British ships in New York's Harbor and cool
• 27:50
  Speaker 5: hold down the statue of King George and Bowland Green,
• 27:53
  Speaker 5: and do all kinds of other good revolutionary American type things.
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  Speaker 2: For the two fifty well, I think it's I think
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  Speaker 2: it's really important to continually be telling the history of
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  Speaker 2: our country and what we stood for. I think that
• 28:06
  Speaker 2: a lot of the problems that we arrive at in
• 28:08
  Speaker 2: modern society and culture is not understanding who we were
• 28:12
  Speaker 2: as a founding country and what we stood for that
• 28:15
  Speaker 2: was different on the world at the time, and so
• 28:17
  Speaker 2: I'm always looking for additional tools and ways to bring
• 28:22
  Speaker 2: that story to life. And when you've got as much
• 28:24
  Speaker 2: concentration of the story in New York you were talking
• 28:27
  Speaker 2: about the different locals and stuff, but some of the
• 28:30
  Speaker 2: major events, specifically the saving of the Continental Army when overnight, miraculously,
• 28:38
  Speaker 2: if thousands of boat trips back and forth between Brooklyn
• 28:42
  Speaker 2: and Manhattan take place, and George Washington's able to basically
• 28:46
  Speaker 2: save the army from total annihilation, I mean, you've got
• 28:50
  Speaker 2: really significant things that if it weren't for New York America,
• 28:54
  Speaker 2: would not have come about.
• 28:56
  Speaker 5: Absolutely that happens. You're alluding to Washington's miraculous escape over
• 29:00
  Speaker 5: from Brooklyn Heights to somewhere along the somewhere near South
• 29:04
  Speaker 5: Street Seaport area in Manhattan. And that's just one of several,
• 29:08
  Speaker 5: but the most dramatic example of several examples in the
• 29:11
  Speaker 5: first major battle of the war, which takes place across
• 29:14
  Speaker 5: in New York, in which we could have all been
• 29:17
  Speaker 5: over right there at the start, right just a few
• 29:20
  Speaker 5: weeks after the declaration of Independence was issued.
• 29:22
  Speaker 2: So I think it really bothered Washington too that he
• 29:26
  Speaker 2: was never able to come back and reclaim. He's obsessed
• 29:29
  Speaker 2: with them. He's there upset. Yeah, and this is.
• 29:32
  Speaker 5: You know, I don't want to cut you off, but
• 29:35
  Speaker 5: just briefly, the you know, the invasion of North America
• 29:39
  Speaker 5: begins in New York City. It's the first major battle
• 29:41
  Speaker 5: of the war. And that's not by accident. The British
• 29:43
  Speaker 5: had decided before, you know, in the French and Indian War,
• 29:46
  Speaker 5: which is you know, not history we need to go
• 29:48
  Speaker 5: into here, but it's the thing that really sets in
• 29:50
  Speaker 5: motion what gets us to the revolution. New York is
• 29:53
  Speaker 5: the military headquarters of the Thirteen Colonies, and in the
• 29:57
  Speaker 5: at the eve of the revolution, they think that both sides,
• 29:59
  Speaker 5: the the Patriots and the British, think that New York
• 30:03
  Speaker 5: is the most important location because the Hudson River gets
• 30:07
  Speaker 5: you more access to the continent than any place south
• 30:11
  Speaker 5: of Canada, right, and this is at a time when
• 30:13
  Speaker 5: roads were rivers, you know, so you needed to control
• 30:18
  Speaker 5: New York.
• 30:19
  Speaker 2: Both sides saw it as critical.
• 30:21
  Speaker 5: So the British sen the largest invasion that you'll see,
• 30:24
  Speaker 5: the largest amphibious invasion until D Day and World War two.
• 30:28
  Speaker 5: Not just because you know, North America was the prized
• 30:31
  Speaker 5: jewel of this global empire that they had. But because
• 30:35
  Speaker 5: they understand that, like if they don't control New York,
• 30:39
  Speaker 5: and the idea for them was to sort of sever
• 30:41
  Speaker 5: the north and South, they might lose this war and
• 30:44
  Speaker 5: they might lose, you know what, was the largest piece
• 30:47
  Speaker 5: of the British Empire, the most important piece in some.
• 30:49
  Speaker 2: Ways, it turns out they did well. If you want
• 30:51
  Speaker 2: to know more, friends, these apps are online. I just
• 30:54
  Speaker 2: downloaded the Revolutionary Trail app myself and I'm looking forward
• 30:58
  Speaker 2: to delving into it. When will the When will the
• 31:01
  Speaker 2: new version be out?
• 31:03
  Speaker 5: So we're pushing to accelerate that timeline, but we're thinking
• 31:07
  Speaker 5: mid mid May, and we'll be releasing demos and things
• 31:10
  Speaker 5: to the press before then. But I expect expected to
• 31:15
  Speaker 5: drop in mid May and we will have all kinds
• 31:19
  Speaker 5: of information online at NYC Revolutionarytrail dot org if you
• 31:23
  Speaker 5: want to find out more about the exhibition, the current app,
• 31:27
  Speaker 5: the new app, any of the projects we're doing.
• 31:29
  Speaker 2: NYC Revolutionary Trail dot org, NYC Revolutionary Trail All One
• 31:34
  Speaker 2: word dot org for more info. Peter, thank you so much.
• 31:38
  Speaker 2: It's a pleasure.
• 31:38
  Speaker 7: Thanks.
• 31:39
  Speaker 2: Thank coming right back. Christine's got tips for your weekend,
• 31:41
  Speaker 2: don't go anywhere once again from New York. Here's Radio
• 31:52
  Speaker 2: Night Live and Kevin mccullor. All right, welcome back, final
• 31:56
  Speaker 2: few minutes of Fun Friday for Radio Night Live. Christine Nicholas.
• 32:00
  Speaker 2: I'm Kevin McCollough, and this means it's time to take
• 32:04
  Speaker 2: a look at the fun stuff to do this weekend, lady, Christine,
• 32:07
  Speaker 2: what's up?
• 32:08
  Speaker 4: Well, thank you, Kevin McCollough.
• 32:10
  Speaker 6: There's always fun things to do, so why don't we
• 32:12
  Speaker 6: start this week downtown just to thank Jessica Lappin from
• 32:16
  Speaker 6: the Downtown.
• 32:16
  Speaker 4: Alliance And there are so many things to do downtown,
• 32:19
  Speaker 4: so check out her website.
• 32:21
  Speaker 6: Their website at Downtownandy dot com and you can do
• 32:27
  Speaker 6: your own Revolutionary Trail, or you can go on the
• 32:31
  Speaker 6: Revolutionary Trail app thanks to Peter Christian Eigner of the
• 32:35
  Speaker 6: Gotham Center for New York City History, and we can
• 32:38
  Speaker 6: do our trail. You know what we didn't mention on
• 32:42
  Speaker 6: the show is Alexander Hamilton is buried right at the
• 32:47
  Speaker 6: Trinity Graveyard, right near Trinity Church, which is really right
• 32:52
  Speaker 6: here next to our studios with Salem Media. We are
• 32:55
  Speaker 6: right there at the Trinity Building, so it all comes full.
• 32:58
  Speaker 2: Circlexander and Eliza and their son and Paul who was
• 33:05
  Speaker 2: the sister that she Angelica Angelica, She's also buried there.
• 33:09
  Speaker 6: Yeah, so it's a and many others are buried there,
• 33:13
  Speaker 6: so it is a real tribute. And that is the
• 33:15
  Speaker 6: actual church that George Washington parayed in before he took
• 33:20
  Speaker 6: his in honorable address right so, and before he did
• 33:23
  Speaker 6: farewell to the troops.
• 33:24
  Speaker 4: It's just so much history. You get yourself.
• 33:26
  Speaker 6: Downtown and then also Chris O'Brien from sail Forth to fifty.
• 33:29
  Speaker 6: Thank you Chris. For more information about the tall ships.
• 33:33
  Speaker 6: The International Naval Review of the Fantastic Air Show go
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  Speaker 6: on sale foth that's with a number four sailforth dot
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  Speaker 6: org and get all the information and please make your
• 33:44
  Speaker 6: plans to come to New York City.
• 33:48
  Speaker 4: You know we are pushing through.
• 33:51
  Speaker 6: You know our efforts, Broadway Association, Time Square Alliance. Let's
• 33:56
  Speaker 6: not work from home people on the four days that
• 34:00
  Speaker 6: FIFA is going to take place. Let's make sure our
• 34:02
  Speaker 6: elected officials understand that New York can host these big
• 34:06
  Speaker 6: events without shutting down the city. We just learned today
• 34:10
  Speaker 6: that forty second Street is now going to be for
• 34:12
  Speaker 6: buses only on the days of the of the games.
• 34:17
  Speaker 6: You know, that's the eight games, but there are four
• 34:19
  Speaker 6: of those games are on weekdays. I think we can
• 34:22
  Speaker 6: handle it. These games are taking place in New Jersey,
• 34:25
  Speaker 6: so let's make sure that New York City remains open
• 34:28
  Speaker 6: for business.
• 34:29
  Speaker 4: Okay, just my little plug there.
• 34:32
  Speaker 6: If we've got a brand new exhibit also at the
• 34:36
  Speaker 6: Museum of Broadway, that's the Craft of Puppetree. That's exciting.
• 34:41
  Speaker 6: That just open, So go check that out at the
• 34:44
  Speaker 6: Museum of Broadway. We love our friends there and there's
• 34:47
  Speaker 6: just so much to see and do. Just visit nyctourism
• 34:50
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• 34:53
  Speaker 6: me on Monday when I fill in for Arthur Idalla
• 34:56
  Speaker 6: Monday at six pm with Randy Mastro and then and
• 35:00
  Speaker 6: also on Tuesday with Tom Harris with Arthur I Dalla
• 35:03
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• 35:06
  Speaker 6: on Tuesday we'll be leading into you Kevin with Linda Parrilla.
• 35:09
  Speaker 4: We love that show. Travel Tuesday.
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  Speaker 2: Well, I'm glad that you're going to get some more
• 35:14
  Speaker 2: Mike time. I think that Christine Nicholas behind the microphone
• 35:18
  Speaker 2: is a powerful one. It's gotta be to see that
• 35:20
  Speaker 2: other Thank you friend for listening. We'll talk to you
• 35:23
  Speaker 2: next time.