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- 0:01SPEAKER_10: It's Quarter Horse Racing Talk Weekly for April Fool's Day 2026.
- 0:06SPEAKER_10: It's become the weekly habit for quarter horse racing fans and industry folks, where we talk to the legends and the newsmakers.
- 0:12SPEAKER_10: If you aren't listening to this, can you really call yourself much of a quarter horse racing fan?
- 0:17SPEAKER_10: Introducing our host, Greg Thompson and co-host, Bailey Ivy.
- 0:21SPEAKER_10: It's Quarter Horse Racing Talk Weekly.
- 0:26SPEAKER_06: And hello again, everyone.com here for Quarter Horse Racing Talk.
- 0:32SPEAKER_19: And I'm Bailey Ivy.
- 0:33SPEAKER_06: Bailey, another week of great racing happening in Quarter Horse Racing last week.
- 0:38SPEAKER_06: A lot of futurities.
- 0:39SPEAKER_06: The grade one out there in California.
- 0:41SPEAKER_06: We have so much to talk about in the recap section.
- 0:45SPEAKER_06: And uh, you know, I've talked with a couple people that have kind of listened to our series.
- 0:49SPEAKER_06: Have you gotten any feedback on it, Bailey?
- 0:51SPEAKER_19: A lot of people have really enjoyed the educational series, getting involved with multiple different horsemen, not just one specifically.
- 0:58SPEAKER_06: I agree.
- 0:59SPEAKER_06: I but I would also say that I definitely want to keep those people that maybe are, you know, that have been in the industry for a long time.
- 1:06SPEAKER_06: Maybe they don't maybe they're not seeing it as the way that other people are seeing it.
- 1:09SPEAKER_06: Of, you know, it's great that we're educating the new owners coming into the sport, and that was kind of the point, right, Bailey.
- 1:15SPEAKER_06: But to uh to kind of keep those guys hooked, I'd I'd like to jump back into getting another one of our racing personalities on the show.
- 1:22SPEAKER_06: And this week we're going to look for racetrack caller that's called so many all Americans over there in Riadoso, and that's Robert Fox.
- 1:30SPEAKER_19: Robert Fox talks to us about what it's like to call a race and the moments that stay with you, and especially all of the memories and traditions at Riadoso Downs, the calls that he'll never forget.
- 1:41SPEAKER_06: Yes, specifically the All-American and the great races he's been able to watch from the announcer's booth.
- 1:47SPEAKER_06: And, you know, really, I don't know how many years he's actually done it.
- 1:50SPEAKER_06: I'm definitely looking to get into the podcast and hear and hear how many years he's put together going forward and and what's what the future holds for him moving forward.
- 2:01SPEAKER_06: So I look forward to getting to that podcast.
- 2:03SPEAKER_19: And Greg, we've been waiting to tackle this discussion that happened at the AQHA convention, abolishing the two-year rule.
- 2:10SPEAKER_06: And yes, it was a discussion that I've been wanting to have, but I definitely wanted to see if I could get my head around it as well as to get somebody that was well versed in what is going to happen in the quarter horse racing world as it pertains to the breeding side, and what does that rule mean and the changes that rule is going to bring.
- 2:28SPEAKER_06: And so I was able to get Royal Vista Ranch's Cole Moorhead on the phone, and he has a real tight understanding of what that rule means as well as what it means to abolish that rule.
- 2:40SPEAKER_06: And I look forward to getting into that discussion with him.
- 2:42SPEAKER_19: And Greg, we have two great fraturities to talk about in the preview section this week the West Texas Faturity and the New Mexican Spring Flink Faturity.
- 2:50SPEAKER_06: Yes, I've been hearing as there's talk about one of the horses in the West Texas Faturity.
- 2:55SPEAKER_06: Definitely not going to label which one they're talking about, but it's there's a superstar in the mix there, and I'm looking forward to that race.
- 3:03SPEAKER_06: And we'll be right back to jump right into the conversation with Robert Fox after these words from our sponsor.
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- 4:35SPEAKER_06: Alright, we're back here and getting right into our featured guest segment.
- 4:40SPEAKER_06: And this week it just so happens to be one of the more formidable voices and more well-known voices in quarter horse racing as it pertains to calling races because he gets to call our signature event the All-American Faturity every year, and that's Robert Fox.
- 4:55SPEAKER_06: And there's been plenty of announcers that were calling the All-American Faturity over the years, and here's a sample of a few of them.
- 5:02SPEAKER_22: He is gaining ground.
- 5:03SPEAKER_22: Alex Baldez in a land special racing into history.
- 5:10SPEAKER_13: Pokebar moving away.
- 5:19SPEAKER_22: Gun battle, no secrets here, wins the All-American futurity.
- 5:24SPEAKER_06: Special effort, go for boss gate investment, a driving finish, special effort in front.
- 5:30SPEAKER_06: Another one of the nicest guys on the racetrack you'll ever meet.
- 5:33SPEAKER_06: So without further ado, let's get Robert on here to talk about his career as well as some of the all-Americans that stand out for him.
- 5:43SPEAKER_06: Hey Robert, thanks for joining us here on Quarter Horse Racing Talk.
- 5:47SPEAKER_06: Just absolutely ecstatic to have you.
- 5:49SPEAKER_03: Oh, thank you.
- 5:50SPEAKER_03: Thank you, Greg.
- 5:50SPEAKER_03: I I I'm glad to be here.
- 5:53SPEAKER_06: Well, first off, Robert, it's not a profession that a lot of people have, and it's something that you intentionally have to usually have to intentionally go towards.
- 6:01SPEAKER_06: So kind of give us your racing background of what led you to a career of calling races.
- 6:06SPEAKER_03: Well, I I kind of fell into it backwards because I'm from Los Angeles, uh Glendale area.
- 6:12SPEAKER_03: So I basically grew up at Santa Anita and I was, you know, I was at Hollywood Park and Los Alamitos and Del Mar and Pomoda.
- 6:19SPEAKER_03: Um but I was taken to Santa Anita my first time when I was 12, and just absolutely fell in love with it.
- 6:26SPEAKER_03: I've gone from elementary school and being in science and and thinking I was gonna work at JPL, which is for me just five miles away, NASA's JPL.
- 6:37SPEAKER_03: And once I once I once I had experience with races, I wanted to be a jockey so bad.
- 6:43SPEAKER_03: That got me.
- 6:44SPEAKER_03: And so I was trying to be a jockey.
- 6:47SPEAKER_03: Long story short, just didn't work out.
- 6:50SPEAKER_03: So then I was trying to figure out what what can I do.
- 6:54SPEAKER_03: And just one day at Hollywood Park, it was one of their it was the years when they were cycling through announcers year after year, and they kept replacing them.
- 7:03SPEAKER_03: And I was just like, well, you know, I mean I didn't think the one guy at the current time was that great.
- 7:11SPEAKER_03: And I was like, well, you know, throwing stones in glass houses, and it's like, do you think you can do it better?
- 7:16SPEAKER_03: And so I just started practicing.
- 7:18SPEAKER_03: I was like, hey, I kind of like this.
- 7:20SPEAKER_03: This would be, I mean, and this would be like in I'm in every race instead of a jockey where you you know.
- 7:26SPEAKER_03: And so then I just started practicing.
- 7:29SPEAKER_03: Um I got into Columbia Broadcasting School, it's a a school, broadcasting school, and graduated that, and then I got into radio news in LA, and and then I just started looking for places to start calling.
- 7:43SPEAKER_03: And meanwhile, I was practicing at Santa Anita.
- 7:46SPEAKER_03: Um, Ron Charles, great guy, he he let me stay in his his owner's box at San Anita.
- 7:53SPEAKER_03: So I started practicing, just recorded them, and every once in a while Trevor Denman would listen to them and you know give me comments here and there.
- 8:02SPEAKER_03: And then from that point on um just started searching around.
- 8:06SPEAKER_03: Uh my first my first calls were actually at Harbor Park, a little uh in Elma, Washington, you know, not around anymore.
- 8:14SPEAKER_03: And then Wyoming Downs one year in '95.
- 8:18SPEAKER_03: And then I wasn't doing anything.
- 8:20SPEAKER_03: I was still just doing radio.
- 8:21SPEAKER_03: I would fly up, I would I would end work in LA, get on the plane, fly up to Salt Lake, drive up to Evanston, call, come back Monday morning.
- 8:32SPEAKER_03: And uh and I did that, and that was uh that was a blast.
- 8:35SPEAKER_03: And but then that was it for I just did that the one year, and then there was nothing up until 2000, where me and my friend in in radio, we were just it just wasn't we could see the writing on the wall, things were going south, and you know, he went and did one direction, and I I got a job at at Fawner, and that just kind of kickstarted everything, and then I got a job at uh Will Rogers in the Woodlands, and it's just sort of snowballed in Eureka Downs, which is coming back, in fact.
- 9:07SPEAKER_03: Exactly.
- 9:08SPEAKER_03: I love the fact that it's coming back.
- 9:11SPEAKER_03: Um and then um 2004 I picked up Riodoso.
- 9:15SPEAKER_03: Luke Krybosch, who I had never met, was one that recommended me, which to this day I can't I mean Luke Luke is was such a great guy.
- 9:24SPEAKER_03: I just don't know.
- 9:26SPEAKER_03: I I don't he had his hand, he had his fingers everywhere.
- 9:29SPEAKER_03: He knew the pulse of racing.
- 9:31SPEAKER_03: It was incredible.
- 9:32SPEAKER_15: Classic dash, treacherously forging his way to the front.
- 9:35SPEAKER_15: He's a fast man charging though with a classic dash on the outside, and a classic dash, and he's a fast man, hit the wire right together a photo.
- 9:44SPEAKER_03: And uh so he he basically suggested hire me.
- 9:49SPEAKER_03: I'm so thankful for him.
- 9:51SPEAKER_06: Yes, now before then and prior to then, had you called quarter horse racing, or is it mostly predominantly thoroughbreds that you were calling?
- 9:59SPEAKER_03: Uh well I have I was practicing with just the thoroughbreds.
- 10:03SPEAKER_03: Every once in a while I'd go to Lo Sal.
- 10:05SPEAKER_03: I mean I I would go to Lo Sal a couple of t a few times a year, and especially champion champions.
- 10:10SPEAKER_03: I mean, I saw I saw refrigerator, who I think still, I for me personally, refrigerator is still what I you know qualify as the bar in as a quarter horse.
- 10:22SPEAKER_03: I saw him win the champion of champions twice, you know, massive crowds.
- 10:26SPEAKER_03: It was so much fun.
- 10:27SPEAKER_03: And you know, I measure everybody up to refrigerator, so but uh as far as calling them, you know, you know, I would practice there, and yeah, when I first called it Harbor and even Wilding Downs, there were mixed mates.
- 10:41SPEAKER_03: I'd even had Aradians uh at Elma, first of all.
- 10:44SPEAKER_03: But it was it's been all thoroughbreds and quarter horses since.
- 10:48SPEAKER_06: Well, obviously one of the key things to talk about with you, Robert, is is your time at Riadoso and and centering around our our signature race of the All-American Futurity.
- 10:59SPEAKER_06: So go back to when was your very first All-American Futurity?
- 11:02SPEAKER_03: 2004, and it was DM Chicago.
- 11:05SPEAKER_06: DM Chicago.
- 11:06SPEAKER_03: And and uh that's like one of the closest as my as I put to refrigerator.
- 11:12SPEAKER_03: He was just he had the kind of like the same build, and I mean he was just almost on par with refrigerator.
- 11:18SPEAKER_03: He was just in my mind one of the cream of the crops.
- 11:23unknown: Yes.
- 11:23SPEAKER_06: With and I've I've seen these documentaries when it comes to like either Larry Comas or Tom Durkin, uh, some of the people that have called the Kentucky Derby in the past.
- 11:34SPEAKER_06: That it's just such a moment that they just want to get right.
- 11:37SPEAKER_06: They've they've studied everything they possibly can do.
- 11:40SPEAKER_06: And uh it's certainly different.
- 11:42SPEAKER_06: They've got 20 horse field there in the Kentucky Derby versus the 10 horse field, but they certainly aren't going 55 miles an hour coming straight at you in a in a line as opposed to the thoroughbreds, which are filing uh in in in some kind of a uniform line going around the racetrack.
- 11:59SPEAKER_06: What kind of stuff do you do to prepare for making sure you get those big grade one races called correctly?
- 12:05SPEAKER_06: And is and do you treat them any differently than say like a maiden five uh going 300 yards?
- 12:11SPEAKER_03: Well, yeah, I mean people have asked me many times, you know, if I get nervous, which you know, as far as because it's the all-American, and I mean I've heard announcers as far as the Kentucky Kentucky Derby referencing, and you know, a lot of people say they'd get really nervous because it's the Kentucky Derby.
- 12:28SPEAKER_03: And for me, it's not nervousness because it's the all-American, it's just nervousness as a fan, because I'm a huge I mean I mean I've been a huge fan of just horse racing.
- 12:39SPEAKER_03: So it's more of a nervousness just as a fan perspective of what's to come.
- 12:44SPEAKER_03: And um as far as as getting prepared, it's just it's I prepare the same way as as any any normal race.
- 12:51SPEAKER_03: I mean, I have to be able to wipe the slate clean so when they come out onto the track is when I start memorizing, and it's uh primarily by silks.
- 13:00SPEAKER_03: Um you know, a lot of by by the stakes races, kind of a little bit easier because uh the generally known silks, owner silks primarily, and so that's what I go off of.
- 13:14SPEAKER_03: Otherwise, you know, you have a gray horse stands out, of course, maybe blinkers, maybe blinkers stand out, something like that.
- 13:22SPEAKER_03: But um the the the difference between thoroughbreds and the quarter horses is you know, you uh you get to call all of them in the thoroughbred race, where you're memorizing ten horses for the quarter horses, and you'll call maybe half, maybe six, if you can get them off real quick, if it depending on how the race unfolds.
- 13:41SPEAKER_03: So there's that big difference.
- 13:43SPEAKER_03: It's it's mostly through the silks, and again, a lot of them are like the owner's silks and the trainer's silks that I I already have placed, so all I have to do is uh, you know, it's placed to the name.
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- 15:13SPEAKER_06: All right, we're back here with Robert Fox.
- 15:15SPEAKER_06: Robert, I know it's on YouTube somewhere, and hopefully it's very hard to find for anybody that's listening.
- 15:23SPEAKER_06: But I try I got I was given the opportunity to call a race, and uh, you know, I really I think I semi have a decent announcer voice.
- 15:32SPEAKER_06: I can or at least I can portray one and and and make it sound, but it it takes a special type of person to be a racetrack caller.
- 15:38SPEAKER_06: If you don't, if you think it's anywhere, shape, or form of being an easy uh occupation, give it a shot because I got there and I was given the first race of the the card, Robert, and it was an 870 race at Evangeline and they they broke a story there.
- 15:55SPEAKER_06: They they broke, and when they got into the turn and spun out of the turn, I completely went blank.
- 16:02SPEAKER_06: And uh I had some friends that were in the grandstand, and they told me that they stopped rooting for the horse and started rooting for me.
- 16:08SPEAKER_06: Like, come on, Greg, come on, pick it back up, Greg, because it just was silence, and and it was just it was I looked at the camera, I was filming myself doing it, and I looked at the camera after it was done, and I told myself, I will never try this again.
- 16:22SPEAKER_06: I promise.
- 16:22SPEAKER_03: So I uh yeah, no, I've been there.
- 16:25SPEAKER_03: I mean, you know, everybody makes mistakes.
- 16:28SPEAKER_03: Everybody makes mistakes, so that's that's you know, kudos on you for for trying.
- 16:33SPEAKER_03: I've made the mistake where, you know, when when there's times that I make mistakes or I'm I can't remember a horse or something like that.
- 16:40SPEAKER_03: I mean, it feels like forever.
- 16:43SPEAKER_03: And even trying to search for the horse, I have a yeah, I I hold a program while I'm calling to reference it in case I forget.
- 16:50SPEAKER_03: But sometimes I can't, I'm like looking going, I don't even know who that is.
- 16:53SPEAKER_03: And you know, it feels like forever, and then you listen to it, you know, and talk to people and like didn't even notice, or it wasn't that bad, you know.
- 17:01SPEAKER_03: I mean, it's maybe like a second, maybe two seconds of a of a gap.
- 17:05SPEAKER_03: But I mean, man, it feels like forever.
- 17:07SPEAKER_03: And and and was it that was night racing, right?
- 17:10SPEAKER_06: Oh, it was night racing, yes, it was.
- 17:12SPEAKER_03: I had covered one year for the quarter horse meet, 2014, when John McGarry left and they j they needed somebody.
- 17:18SPEAKER_03: So I covered the the quarter horse meet, and I had never been there, and it was night racing.
- 17:23SPEAKER_03: Night racing is is hard because there's reflections, there's the light.
- 17:28SPEAKER_03: Sometimes the light isn't, you know, it doesn't cover the track enough.
- 17:31SPEAKER_03: So there's a lot of things working against you in night racing.
- 17:34SPEAKER_03: And again, that far turn, that far turn is the worst place for any announcer because the horses line up, you start losing horses on that far turn.
- 17:41SPEAKER_03: They can line up and you can see you can't see who's on.
- 17:44SPEAKER_03: You know, if they line up three in a row, it's hard to see a lot of the times.
- 17:48SPEAKER_03: And it's been then and then you take a night into account, and that dims, that bleeds the colors where blue and purple start looking the same, orange, pink, and red all kind of blend together.
- 17:59SPEAKER_03: And it was an 870 race, and I uh oh it it was it was not pretty.
- 18:05SPEAKER_03: I mean, it wasn't it wasn't totally awful, but for me being the perfectionist, I I I lost a number of horses, and I was just like, oh my lord, know exactly what you were going through.
- 18:17SPEAKER_06: Let's get back into the All-American Vaturity.
- 18:20SPEAKER_06: Robert, I don't know if you know the statistic on this, but uh I'm trying to remember it was Bob Dudich was the long time track announcer at Riadoza during like the 70s or so, and I don't know how many he called.
- 18:34SPEAKER_13: Here comes Cal Kadedek between horses, flaming jet, and uh on the inside, Kokus Kid, and uh time to think rich, a driving finish on the outside, it's time to think rich, it's time to think rich in the I would imagine with your longevity there at Riyadoso, you you've probably I think you've at least hold the record for the amount of all-American futurities called.
- 18:58SPEAKER_06: Would you say that's more than likely you?
- 19:02SPEAKER_03: Um, I'm not sure on that end.
- 19:05SPEAKER_03: I do know I'm like second as far as total total time to Bob.
- 19:10SPEAKER_03: Uh I don't remember exactly how many All-Americans he called.
- 19:14unknown: Right.
- 19:14SPEAKER_03: Well, I am I am second to him.
- 19:17SPEAKER_03: I mean, he the he was the original voice of uh the All-American, and I won't take anything away from him.
- 19:22SPEAKER_06: Right.
- 19:22SPEAKER_06: But with that being said, the modern day champions that we're most of us remember, you you've had the opportunity to look down, and you mentioned that DM Chicago was one of the first ones you got to do the race call on.
- 19:34SPEAKER_03: They're running in the all-American futurity.
- 19:37SPEAKER_03: All got away useful enough.
- 19:39SPEAKER_03: And in between horses, takeoff Jess into the outside, Devin's signature, along with Corona Ease.
- 19:45SPEAKER_03: Down along the inside is DM Chicago, DM Chicago in front, DM Chicago by about a half from takeoff Jess into the far side, Corona E's, and in Devin's signature, DM Chicago.
- 19:57SPEAKER_06: Talk about some of the other memorables that ones that jump out in the mind, and I'm sure there's numerous, and we've got plenty of time here on the podcast, so so feel free to elaborate.
- 20:06SPEAKER_03: Well, I tell people, you know, I don't I'm not big on on conversation.
- 20:11SPEAKER_03: I just kind of watch people a lot of times and get involved every once in a while.
- 20:16SPEAKER_03: But I mean, if you get me on a subject that I love, I you can't shut me up.
- 20:19SPEAKER_03: So I can start getting annoying and horse racing, you get me off on that.
- 20:23SPEAKER_03: So yeah, but I so I will try not to ramble on, but uh no, DM Chicago, I mean he was awesome.
- 20:30SPEAKER_03: But I just I still think probably my favorite is Hearts Wide Open.
- 20:36SPEAKER_03: I loved her.
- 20:37SPEAKER_03: I loved her, and I mean I called I called her the winner, I thought she won by a nostril, and then when I looked at the photo, it was half a nostril, and I was like, oh boy.
- 20:50SPEAKER_03: I kind of kind of misjudged that.
- 20:52SPEAKER_03: I mean, you know, a nostril's not very big, and I thought she definitely had won.
- 20:56SPEAKER_03: And I've been, I mean, I was thinking, I'm gonna look at the photo and it's gonna be a nostril, and it was half a nostril, and I was like, wow.
- 21:04SPEAKER_03: They're running in the all-American futurity.
- 21:06SPEAKER_03: A beautiful break by all clean, hearts wide open, immediately ducks to the outside fence.
- 21:11SPEAKER_03: Wild Six gonna try to go with her.
- 21:13SPEAKER_03: SF Royal Bank is running a big one, and Captain Courage! Captain Courage, SF Royal Bank along the inside.
- 21:19SPEAKER_03: Grateful heart, hearts wide open to the outside.
- 21:21SPEAKER_22: Wild Six is defeated, hearts wide open, hearts wide open, wins the all-American futurity.
- 21:32SPEAKER_03: But um other things, um, Paul Jones, the the the races that Paul Jones won, I think three, all on sloppy tracks.
- 21:41SPEAKER_03: All on sloppy tracks.
- 21:43SPEAKER_03: So, I mean, if you if Paul Jones ever has runners back in the All-American, if it's a sloppy track, don't forget about that.
- 21:52SPEAKER_03: They're running, they're all gonna win well, and out for their lead, down along the inside is a real string.
- 22:56SPEAKER_03: And then let's follow them up with King of the Time now and Germany.
- 23:00SPEAKER_03: So now you get that whole generation.
- 23:03SPEAKER_03: I mean, that's just a story.
- 23:05SPEAKER_03: That's a movie.
- 23:06SPEAKER_06: Not a dumb.
- 23:10SPEAKER_06: As a matter of fact, multiple jockeys that I spoke with, uh Achoa's the one that they that jumps out at them as well.
- 23:17SPEAKER_06: Um talked about that.
- 23:20SPEAKER_03: That one, I mean, the whole field just beautifully.
- 23:25SPEAKER_03: And and then you had Achoa and Lana for Robin and T Coz, and they were all up there, and and and big daddy cartel had drifted in.
- 23:34SPEAKER_03: So the horses on the the inside all kind of got punched up.
- 23:38SPEAKER_03: And then you know, achoa just just took command and just drew away.
- 23:43SPEAKER_03: And yeah, I mean, he he definitely does rank up there because I mean that's that's one that everybody brings up.
- 23:52SPEAKER_03: Running in the all-American futurity, and they all got away beautifully.
- 23:55SPEAKER_03: I chose a lot of love for Robin from the far side, T cause.
- 23:59SPEAKER_03: And then we have Jess Querville, big daddy cartel drifting in along the inside, causing punching, and Bill's last had to take up.
- 24:05SPEAKER_03: Achoa's in front, Achoa, and T cause followed up by Justin B.
- 24:10SPEAKER_03: Achoa is gonna win the all-American futurity.
- 24:12SPEAKER_03: Achoa from just send me T cause a lot of love for Robin from the far side.
- 24:16SPEAKER_03: It is Achoa to call it a comeback.
- 24:19SPEAKER_03: Sleepy Gilbert has another all-American knockout performance.
- 24:24SPEAKER_03: Definitely.
- 24:25SPEAKER_03: Achoa was was definitely something.
- 24:28SPEAKER_06: Well, if anybody's ever listened to some of your the races there at Riyadosa, realize that you are a horse fan as well as a horse, your your analysis of what's going on.
- 24:39SPEAKER_06: And I and also know that you're uh you're a paddock analyst at other racetracks.
- 24:44SPEAKER_06: So this the sport as well as the handicapping is something that you participate in.
- 24:49SPEAKER_06: It's been a um at least a million different storylines as it pertains and centers around the all-American that you've also been able to witness.
- 24:59SPEAKER_06: If you were to go and write a biography at the end of your career, Robert, what are some of the top storylines that it's just amazing that you went through this and you were there to experience it?
- 25:10SPEAKER_06: Does anything jump in the mind?
- 25:11SPEAKER_03: Some of the best stories are just some of the things that happen during the day that you've never seen before.
- 25:20SPEAKER_03: I mean, just weird freak things that go on at the gate or you know, in a race.
- 25:25SPEAKER_03: I mean, and they have you know, I mean, I've I've recalled now since 2004 consistently, and I continue to see just you know strange, strange things happen.
- 25:36SPEAKER_03: And I would try to remember some of those things.
- 25:39SPEAKER_03: I mean, offhand, it's kind of hard, except you know, but um just certain things and and the camaraderie of of the whole racing group.
- 25:50SPEAKER_03: I mean, we're we're family, yes, and everybody has their fights, you know, but that's what families do, you know, they have arguments, uh things everybody, you know, has their opinions, which is great.
- 26:05SPEAKER_03: But I mean it would you know, I would I would have to sit back and reflect for quite a while on that one because there are a lot of stories to pull from.
- 26:12SPEAKER_06: Yes.
- 26:13SPEAKER_06: Um, Robert, you call it several different racetracks as well.
- 26:17SPEAKER_06: And uh so it's not necessarily Riyadosa Downs that you're you know, even though you've been there longevity-wise, the probably the longest as it pertains to all the other racetracks that you've called out, but you've had the opportunity to call it a lot of the different racetracks.
- 26:31SPEAKER_06: I'm assuming that Riadosa is up at the top and you kind of wanting to gather, why is it so special to you?
- 26:39SPEAKER_03: Well, it's the all-American and it's just such a beautiful place.
- 26:43SPEAKER_03: If you've never been there, even even without the racing, go up.
- 26:48SPEAKER_03: Go up and go visit Riadoso.
- 26:50SPEAKER_03: It's in the mountains.
- 26:51SPEAKER_03: I mean, and and I'm from LA, and a lot of people may not know it, but LA is the mountains.
- 26:56SPEAKER_03: We have a lot of mountains around here.
- 26:58SPEAKER_03: So I'm a mountain person.
- 26:59SPEAKER_03: I love the mountains.
- 27:00SPEAKER_03: So anytime I can find myself in that or the beach, but uh Riadoso is is a great community and um and just the racing, it's the best quarter horse racing in the world, hands down.
- 27:14SPEAKER_06: Yeah, Robert, if I'm assuming you're with me is that if there's some hope for the future that somehow Riadoso uh remains and and somehow we can continue the racing at Riadoso, even though everything seems to be struggling to could you know the future to continue in that direction, but I'm sure you're on the same page as I am that it's gonna change the game without having Riadosa Downs.
- 27:41SPEAKER_03: Right.
- 27:42SPEAKER_03: Exactly.
- 27:43SPEAKER_03: I mean, I really hope maybe they move it up to Alto or something, I'd somewhere just to keep it in you know, in the Riadoso area.
- 27:54SPEAKER_03: I really that's that's what I really hope for.
- 27:57SPEAKER_06: Switching gears before I let you go, Robert.
- 27:59SPEAKER_06: As it pertains to the profession of being a race caller, uh talk about anybody that's a young man or a young lady that are listen that's listening to these podcasts and would like a career in racing.
- 28:11SPEAKER_06: Talk about the profession of being a race caller and maybe some of the skills that you have.
- 28:17SPEAKER_06: I I'll go ahead and say it that one of the things I don't feel that I'm very good at is memorizing that almost like a track announcer is almost that's an absolute requirement.
- 28:27SPEAKER_06: So talk about the skills that are needed in order to be a good race caller.
- 28:32SPEAKER_03: Um yeah, memorization is is is huge.
- 28:36SPEAKER_03: You also have to have clarity in in you know in your calls and projecting and and being accurate.
- 28:43SPEAKER_03: You're trying to describe the race, say you're you're you're talking to someone who's maybe inside the grandstand not watching the race, or or someone who can't see, you know, you're trying to describe that race and paint a picture so they can visualize it in their mind.
- 29:01SPEAKER_03: But memorization, yes, and again, I brought that up.
- 29:04SPEAKER_03: I have a temporary photographic memory, so which did me good for German in high school, but I'd forgot everything.
- 29:12SPEAKER_03: And I would I would like rush right right before the test, I would go through it all, and I would get great grades, and I hardly remember anything from from that.
- 29:21SPEAKER_03: But the the temporary photographic memory, uh, you you know, and then you have to wipe it out because you're on to the next race, you're on to another set of horses.
- 29:30SPEAKER_03: And you know, after the day, I've had many several, several, several times people come up and say, Oh, you know, what did you think about so-and-so or this race, or who won this race?
- 29:40SPEAKER_03: And I'm like, you know, unless it really stood out, it's like, um I don't know, I'll have to go look at the replay if you want me, because they just it has to be used to be wiped from your memory and move on to the next one.
- 29:53SPEAKER_03: So you gotta have that kind of ability.
- 29:56SPEAKER_03: And then I'm a perfectionist, and one of the worst things, the hardest things for me to get through was when you make a mistake, you know, you used to just eat me up for days, and you just gotta get over it.
- 30:10SPEAKER_03: You you you made a mistake and move on.
- 30:14SPEAKER_03: I mean, it's kind of like uh the quarterback, you know, throwing a pick six.
- 30:18SPEAKER_06: Well, Robert, we absolutely appreciate you getting on here on Court Horse Racing Talk and talking about some of the signature race there at uh at Riadoso and the All Americans that you've called and and look forward to this upcoming year.
- 30:32SPEAKER_06: Uh it's you know, change is not always bad.
- 30:35SPEAKER_06: Uh it's certainly something that you just kind of roll with the punches, and I and if it it if if it is that, we'll just roll with the punches and keep rolling on.
- 30:44SPEAKER_06: Right.
- 30:44SPEAKER_03: Yep.
- 30:45SPEAKER_03: I just I just again I hope for the best for the Rito area, because I mean that's the all-American is Rito, so uh, you know, it would just be a shame to have lost that.
- 30:59unknown: Yes.
- 30:59SPEAKER_06: Robert, thanks again for being on.
- 31:02SPEAKER_06: Thank you.
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- 31:59SPEAKER_06: Alright, we're back here on Quiddle Horse Racing Talk, ready to get into one of the topics.
- 32:03SPEAKER_06: It's a little bit out of my comfort zone, but it's something I've been wanting to discuss, and I've been asked if we are going to discuss it here on the podcast.
- 32:12SPEAKER_06: And that topic, of course, is concerning the two-year rule that was repealed by the AQHA during the most recent 2026 convention there in Las Vegas.
- 32:23SPEAKER_06: And this news is pretty much throughout the industry, regardless of where you go, you can find information about this rule and some of the people's stances of one way or the other.
- 32:34SPEAKER_06: And we covered it also as at stallienesearch.com, and you pretty much can find discussions just about everywhere online.
- 32:41SPEAKER_06: From Sports Illustrated to Barrel Racing.com.
- 32:44SPEAKER_06: I'll I'll use their news report because they have a section in there explaining it fairly well for those that are unaware what it is.
- 32:52SPEAKER_06: And it reads, after years of debate inside the American Quarter Horse Associations, members have voted to repeal the controversial two-year rule, a regulation that limited how long frozen genetics from certain horses could be used to produce AQHA registered foals.
- 33:08SPEAKER_06: Now what is that two-year rule?
- 33:10SPEAKER_06: Well the rule applied to stallions and mares fold in 2015 or later and placed limits on the use of stored genetics after the horse's death.
- 33:20SPEAKER_06: Now, under the rule, frozen semen from a stallion could only be used for two years after the stallion died or was gelded.
- 33:28SPEAKER_06: As well as on the female side, frozen embryos from a mare could only be transferred for two years after the mare died or was sterilized.
- 33:36SPEAKER_06: And once the window was closed, any remaining frozen semen or embryos could no longer produce foals eligible for AQHA registration.
- 33:45SPEAKER_06: Now it's also important to note that anything born before 2015 was grandfathered in.
- 33:52SPEAKER_06: It did not apply to this rule as an example.
- 33:54SPEAKER_06: First down dash is a perfect example where the rule does not apply to him.
- 33:59SPEAKER_06: So, now if you're at this point in time in the podcast and assuming that you're going to hear Greg Thompson's take one way or the other concerning this news, well, you're going to be sadly disappointed.
- 34:12SPEAKER_06: But what I've done here is I've gotten somebody in the industry to get on and really just talk about the two-year rule of how it was applied and what does it mean now that it's been repealed as it pertains to quarter horse racing and the quarter horse racing breeding industry.
- 34:28SPEAKER_06: And that person is Cole Moorhead at Royal Vista Ranch, who stands some of the top stallions in the entire world as it pertains to running quarter horses, there in Oklahoma.
- 34:39SPEAKER_06: And I feel Cole brings a very informed discussion about this piece of news that I've been asked if we were going to touch upon.
- 34:46SPEAKER_06: So in order to satisfy those that have been waiting on us to discuss it, well, here it goes as I get Cole Moore ahead on the phone.
- 34:56SPEAKER_06: Hey, thanks for joining us here on Quiddowhorse Racing Talk Cole to talk about one of the things in the industry that's certainly risen to the top of some of the industry news that a lot of people are talking about.
- 35:08SPEAKER_18: Yeah, no, thanks for having me, Greg.
- 35:10SPEAKER_18: Um, I really appreciate it.
- 35:12SPEAKER_06: Cole from this last AQHA convention, the the news coming out of there is the the dissolving of the two-year rule.
- 35:19SPEAKER_06: And uh for for layman's, I I'm gonna actually ask you to kind of explain what that rule was and and what really it means moving forward for the quarter horse racing industry now that they've removed that rule.
- 35:34SPEAKER_18: Yeah, no, again, Greg, thanks for having me on.
- 35:36SPEAKER_18: I uh this is this is definitely a hot topic, and uh and and rightfully so.
- 35:40SPEAKER_18: I mean, it impacted a lot of people, uh, you know, a lot of people's breeding programs and and and plans and and you know, financially it impacted a lot of people.
- 35:48SPEAKER_18: But but you know, uh just at a high level, the two-year rule, what it essentially is is um years ago the the AQHA stud book set out to to put a rule in place, um, you know, honestly to overcome a lot of what they saw as potential, you know, challenges and and and problems of the future.
- 36:05SPEAKER_18: And what they did is they set up a timeline, and it was the year 2015.
- 36:09SPEAKER_18: Any American quarter horse born in 2015 or after, both stallion or uh a female, male or female, had had the ability to reproduce through their through the w as they were living, and then after they died, when they were deceased, they would only be allowed to reproduce for two more breeding seasons.
- 36:31SPEAKER_18: Right.
- 36:31SPEAKER_18: And then after that, the the offspring would not be able to be registered.
- 36:34SPEAKER_18: And what a lot of people don't realize, a lot of people thought this was only um impacting stallions, but there's a lot of frozen embryos out there on some of these blue hen mares.
- 36:43SPEAKER_18: Um, you know, or or they're maybe not blue hen yet, as some of these are younger, but but they these great bred and and well-producing mares um that are frozen.
- 36:52SPEAKER_18: And and honestly, if they're born after 2015, if that rule is not overturned, you had two years to implant those embryos and use them, or that you were not gonna be able to register the offspring.
- 37:01SPEAKER_18: So that's that's the gist of the rule.
- 37:03SPEAKER_18: So I again that's just kind of high level, Greg.
- 37:05SPEAKER_06: And now that they've removed it, moving forward, what does that mean for us in the quarter horse racing world?
- 37:11SPEAKER_18: Yeah, I mean, you know, Greg, when I I went out to the convention and and I'm just a member.
- 37:16SPEAKER_18: I'm not a I'm not a director, uh, I'm not on the stud book.
- 37:19SPEAKER_18: You know, uh hands down, in my opinion, the stud book is the most important committee uh in the AQHA.
- 37:26SPEAKER_18: I I think they they develop and monitor the rules that impact the breed uh by far um you know more than any of the other committees out there.
- 37:37SPEAKER_18: Um and and and those individuals in that room, you know, they they they have a heavy burden because again, like I I communicated out there when I was out in Las Vegas.
- 37:47SPEAKER_18: Everybody on that stud book, I believe in their heart, they're trying to do whatever is best for the quarter horse breed.
- 37:53SPEAKER_18: That's you know, that's that's what they're supposed to be doing.
- 37:55SPEAKER_18: They're supposed to put financials aside and other things.
- 37:58SPEAKER_18: But, you know, one of the things is I don't care how forward-thinking you are, it's really hard to get ahead of today's breeding technologies and and technologies in general uh that are impacting the corridorse.
- 38:10SPEAKER_18: So, you know, again, I think they set out some specific goals of what this rule would accomplish, genetic diversity being the number one priority.
- 38:18SPEAKER_18: And there were some other priorities behind that, such as cloning and and other things that they were concerned about.
- 38:23SPEAKER_18: And and really, you know, after this being in in effect for 11 years now, I just I don't think anybody in the industry truly was seeing the benefit um of what everybody was looking for.
- 38:34SPEAKER_18: Now I will say that um I I think the stud book was willing to make some changes and likely would have done so, you know, over the next year or two.
- 38:43SPEAKER_18: But but the beautiful thing was is that our AQHA, you know, being uh a democratic body, you know, w the the people showed up and um they they were heard, and uh, you know, I think I think it was it worked well.
- 38:57SPEAKER_18: And and the rule was overturned.
- 38:58SPEAKER_18: But you know, my point to everybody out there was is I uh that that group of people out there that was trying to do you know the best for the breed and for the industry, you know, I I don't think anybody was after anybody.
- 39:10SPEAKER_18: I don't think it was personal.
- 39:12SPEAKER_18: Uh but but again, it it it was a big job, and and uh you know there was a lot of a lot of emotion involved in this decision.
- 39:19SPEAKER_18: So, you know, that that's just kind of a little bit of the background.
- 39:22SPEAKER_18: And I just want to applaud the AQHA and everybody that showed up.
- 39:25SPEAKER_18: I thought everybody did an outstanding job and uh the process, it was it worked the way it was supposed to.
- 39:30SPEAKER_18: So moving into the you know how this is gonna impact horror horse racing.
- 39:33SPEAKER_18: I mean, as you know, you know, we've had some amazing, you know, stallions, sires, you know, some of the greatest of all time, you know, uh pass away.
- 39:42SPEAKER_18: And and I'm a firm believer that the free market will typically take care uh you know of those stallions and breeding to those stallions.
- 39:49SPEAKER_18: Right.
- 39:50SPEAKER_18: You know, I mean, we we've we've seen, even with the latest technologies of Ixy and other things, that when a stallion passes away, you know, the year, the year after they pass away and the year after that, you know, their their their numbers drop significantly.
- 40:02SPEAKER_18: And and again, I think it's just because it's hard to keep those horses in the forefront of everybody's mind when you're out there at the races and when you're going to the stud barns and looking at these breeding farms and all that.
- 40:12SPEAKER_18: I just I think it's difficult to stay relevant after these horses die.
- 40:16SPEAKER_18: And again, obviously there's bigger name stallions that are going to be able to do it more than others.
- 40:21SPEAKER_18: Um, but but again, this is with the new rule, with the rule being abolished, you know, we're back to a free market where the breeders get the opportunity to freeze embryos to breed to whatever stallions they want, whenever they want, use whatever breeding technologies they want.
- 40:36SPEAKER_18: And you know, just between you and me, Greg, I mean, this this deal is, you know, I think we have a lot of other issues out there.
- 40:43SPEAKER_18: I mean, I I'm I'm a firm believer that you know some of these horses were were probably you know almost breeding too much and flooding the market on some of these mares and stallions.
- 40:53SPEAKER_18: And and and again, I think there's other ways we can address it.
- 40:56SPEAKER_18: I think the AQHA is prepared to take that on.
- 40:58SPEAKER_18: And um, so again, but right now, today, the rule is there are no rules, and um the free market is going to determine who these breeders are breeding to.
- 41:08SPEAKER_18: So the the exciting part is if you have that magic cross out there and it's you know, maybe it's a stallion that's that's deceased and there's frozen semen, or you can use ixy, and you have that mare that you're really excited about breeding that stallion to, you're still going to be able to.
- 41:21SPEAKER_18: Uh or if you have that mare that you know you you harvested her ovaries when she passed away, and you were able to get a few more, you know, frozen embryos and things like that, you have the ability to take your time and and and and utilize those the way you want.
- 41:34SPEAKER_18: I think that's the that's the highlight of how you know what came from this um the the rule change.
- 41:39SPEAKER_18: But but again, I mean that's that's kind of the high level, and and no, no doubt it was uh it was a very interesting conference.
- 41:45SPEAKER_06: So but um I mean when you speak into diversification, is that it there's we're not really flooded the market wise as the amount of stallions that are coming off the track and are available to go to these breeding farms.
- 41:58SPEAKER_06: It's uh you would also agree, Cole, that there is a shortage of that.
- 42:02SPEAKER_06: There's certainly not as many as there used to be.
- 42:06SPEAKER_06: A lot of people are are scrambling for studs at this, I guess right around November, they're they're worried about which horses are coming off the racetrack.
- 42:15SPEAKER_06: We don't have an a multitude of them out there.
- 42:18SPEAKER_06: And when you're talking about diversifying, it seems like we have a lot of stallions and a lot of breeding lines that we're continuing to go to.
- 42:25SPEAKER_06: So what you're talking about when you when you're explaining diversification, I'm assuming what you're talking about is expanding our uh outcrosses and the ability to do the outcrosses and and not just kind of painting us ourselves in a corner as it pertains to what bloodlines we continue to go to the well on.
- 42:45SPEAKER_18: Absolutely.
- 42:45SPEAKER_18: And I mean, as a as an industry, the racehorse industry has done a much better job of not painting ourselves into the corner versus some of these other industries.
- 42:54SPEAKER_18: I mean, some of these performance horses, I mean, they, you know, and and that's what everybody worries about is creating some of these genetic diseases that have popped up from what we're you know considering considering inbreeding and and not monitoring, you know, some of that, uh, you know, where we know there's carriers of certain genetic defects and and and because of their popularity in the show pen or or you know, whatever it may be, people continue to breed to them just for the performance aspect when when we're actually you know um taking away from the overall you know quality of the breeding.
- 43:24SPEAKER_18: So I mean we've done a better job, but but like you said, unfortunately, performance drives you know the focus on these what we kind of call the and this this wasn't my term, but somebody out there in Las Vegas brought this up, and they you know it's they're calling it the popular stallion syndrome, the popular sire syndrome.
- 43:42SPEAKER_18: And and you know, and you can see it in our industry.
- 43:44SPEAKER_18: I mean, there's 10 to 15 stallions that breed the largest majority of the mares year after year.
- 43:50SPEAKER_18: And and I think the the one of the takeaways I wanted to bring up on this two year rule is if we ever did find that out cross, which we find on you know, they're they're out there and they they show up every year, but not.
- 44:00SPEAKER_18: Not as many as we'd like.
- 44:01SPEAKER_18: But it in the event that that individual was a superstar in the outcross we were all looking for and he passed away, it'd be a shame not to be able to utilize that semen, you know, for as long as we could and to and to continue to diversify our breed as much as possible.
- 44:14SPEAKER_18: So I just think you have to look at it from a lot of different angles.
- 44:17SPEAKER_18: I think you know, um, there's a lot of ideas that were presented out there in Las Vegas I thought were outstanding.
- 44:22SPEAKER_18: The stud book really appeared to be listening, and uh I think we're gonna see a lot of positive change in the future.
- 44:28SPEAKER_18: So again, I I I walked away from Vegas feeling very um you know enthused about how the process worked.
- 44:35SPEAKER_18: Um but but again, the fact that there were a lot of people, you know, on both sides of this argument that came together and had some very productive conversations.
- 44:43SPEAKER_18: And that's how it should work.
- 44:44SPEAKER_18: You know, if if if we're able to do that, we can overcome anything.
- 44:47SPEAKER_18: And and again, I just I think for the most part, it was a win for the industry.
- 44:51SPEAKER_06: Well, Cole, I know this is not the easiest topic to get on and talk about, but we absolutely appreciate you doing it here on Quarter Horse Racing Talk.
- 44:59SPEAKER_18: Yes, sir.
- 44:59SPEAKER_18: Thanks again for having me, Greg.
- 45:00SPEAKER_18: Appreciate the podcast.
- 45:02SPEAKER_09: And we'll be right back after these words.
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- 46:02SPEAKER_12: All right, back to the show.
- 46:04SPEAKER_06: All right, we're back here on Quarter Horse Racing Talk, ready to get in the stakes results section, talking about multiple graded stakes that we had this weekend.
- 46:13SPEAKER_06: So let's jump right into it and look at over there in Louisiana, they had the restricted grade two Mardi Gras Futurity, a$431,000, 300-yard furity for the two-year-olds, and we'll go to the track announcer there in Bozer City, Louisiana.
- 46:28SPEAKER_05: And they're off in the Mardi Gras Futurity.
- 46:31SPEAKER_05: Awesome Eagle V stumbled at the start.
- 46:33SPEAKER_05: MC Blue Cartel on the outside, charging out.
- 46:36SPEAKER_05: Moochaman shortstoppers right there, followed by Sharper's image.
- 46:39SPEAKER_05: Conair Cartel on the inside, but it's going to be MC Blue Cartel two in it.
- 46:44SPEAKER_19: MC Blue Cartel is a two-year-old Philly by Carter's Cartel out of the Just Louisiana Blue Mare MC Blue Corona.
- 46:52SPEAKER_19: Read by Bottoms Up Racing, owned by Jaime Cardenas, trained by Josue Ponce, and ridden by Jorge Garcia.
- 46:59SPEAKER_19: And was a$10,000 RNA at the Louisiana Bread Sale.
- 47:03SPEAKER_06: Okay, we'll go out to the West Coast at Los Alamitos.
- 47:06SPEAKER_06: It was the grade one Los Alamitos Oaks.
- 47:09SPEAKER_06: $415,000 for three-year-olds going 400 yards to the Phillies, and we had a superstar in the field.
- 47:17SPEAKER_06: And here's Michael Rona with a call.
- 47:20SPEAKER_04: Racing.
- 47:21SPEAKER_04: Beautiful is away pretty well.
- 47:23SPEAKER_04: Roos tickle knockout, French Valley, and Jessablue Monday.
- 47:27SPEAKER_04: And Beautiful powering on near the inside.
- 47:30SPEAKER_04: It's beautiful and French Valley, Jessablue Monday, and Roos Tickle knockout.
- 47:36SPEAKER_04: Beautiful's just in front.
- 47:38SPEAKER_04: It's close.
- 47:39SPEAKER_04: And Jessablue Monday lunging out wide, but I think the gray beauty on the inside has won the Oaks.
- 47:47SPEAKER_19: Beautiful is a three-year-old Philly by KV and Corona out of the first down dash mare, Butterthink Twice.
- 47:54SPEAKER_19: Read by McCaulay Landon Livestock, owned by Keith Nelson, trained by Kristen Wantanabe, written by Rodrigo Vallejo, and was a Redoso yearling sale graduate of 29,000.
- 48:05SPEAKER_06: And we were able to get on the phone with winning owner Keith Nelson about his winning Philly.
- 48:13SPEAKER_06: Keith, another big win.
- 48:15SPEAKER_06: Beautiful.
- 48:16SPEAKER_06: Ran a huge race here in the Los Alakes.
- 48:18SPEAKER_06: You called me or actually sent me a text and said, you know, she drew the one hole again.
- 48:22SPEAKER_06: It was what you not necessarily what you wanted, but certainly it almost seems like she doesn't matter what hole she wants to come out of.
- 48:29SPEAKER_06: That horse just loves to go down the racetrack there at Los Al.
- 48:32SPEAKER_21: Yeah, she's a highly, highly competitive horse.
- 48:36SPEAKER_21: And I think she knows where that finish line is.
- 48:39SPEAKER_21: And Rodrigo did an amazing job, you know, guiding her and getting her kind of over there a little closer to the competition, and uh she's able to hold on there at the end.
- 48:49SPEAKER_21: You know, when they're when you're there, when they're in the one hole, you always leave their way ahead.
- 48:53SPEAKER_21: And then you see the drone shot, and it was a competitive race.
- 48:59SPEAKER_06: Absolutely.
- 49:00SPEAKER_06: Barring when, of course, when she comes out of the race and what condition she is, what do you think's next, Kate?
- 49:06SPEAKER_21: We're you know, borrowing something unforeseen.
- 49:10SPEAKER_21: We're um planning on going to Albert Turkey, I guess it is now.
- 49:15SPEAKER_21: Or the rainbow and the all-American.
- 49:17SPEAKER_21: That's uh that's what she's played into, and that's kind of been the whole plan the whole time.
- 49:21SPEAKER_06: Yeah, would you are you considering the rainbow oaks and the all-American oaks, or are you looking to run her against the voice?
- 49:27SPEAKER_21: You know, I think I think we would probably I mean I could be coaching and say we don't know, but I would say that it's a strong, strong probability we'll go in the oak.
- 49:37SPEAKER_21: Um you know, that's kind of been our plan all along is to try and go for those three, and we kind of view that as the triple crown of uh oax racing, and uh if everything goes right, you know, this is again a lot has to go right.
- 49:53SPEAKER_21: The final would be uh to bring her back to the super derby at Los Alamitos in the fall.
- 49:59SPEAKER_06: Well, congratulations again on another huge race, and we look forward to seeing this horse in the summertime and see if she gets in there at Albuquerque and and and does what she obviously has shown she's capable of doing.
- 50:11SPEAKER_06: Yes, thank you, thank you.
- 50:12SPEAKER_06: We're really excited.
- 50:14SPEAKER_06: Osual at Los Alamitos this weekend, the$185,000 El Primero Del Año Derby, the graded stakes event, 400 yards, three year olds going at it, and Paul Jones trained Dudar Cartel going for a perfect record here in 2026 thus far.
- 50:31SPEAKER_06: And here's the call from Michael Rona Racing.
- 50:34SPEAKER_04: Dudar Cartel, Cattail Coast, both drifting a little bit wide, but showing great pace from Brother Ray and nearer the inside, more of it together with Cowboy Country.
- 50:44SPEAKER_04: One, two, three, Dudah Cartel from Brother Ray, Dudar Cartel in front of Brother Ray, who's running a mighty race, but do dark too good!
- 50:52SPEAKER_19: He is the dominant force in the Dudar Cartel is a three-year-old cult by favorite cartel out of the apology Sweet Expectations, read by Paul Jones and Thompson Racing, owned by Paul Jones, Thompson Racing, and Alexis Andrade, trained by Paul Jones and written by Henry Lopez.
- 51:11SPEAKER_06: And we were able to get Hall of Fame trainer Paul Jones on the phone to talk about this big win.
- 51:19SPEAKER_06: Dude on a cartel ran a huge race there.
- 51:22SPEAKER_06: Grade two Derby kind of talked to me another great effort in a row.
- 51:26SPEAKER_06: Two, you know, he's putting two of them together back to back now.
- 51:29SPEAKER_17: Yeah, he he really uh ran a beautiful race.
- 51:33SPEAKER_17: Um his trial to this race and this race, uh, he broke perfect.
- 51:38SPEAKER_17: He actually broke a little bit on top of this race, maybe ahead in front, out of the gates, and had a good, nice clean trip.
- 51:46SPEAKER_17: And uh maybe lugged out a little at the start and then kind of came back in a little bit, but not enough to affect him.
- 51:52SPEAKER_17: But he just he just runs so fluid and so smooth, and Henry just kind of glides with him.
- 51:57SPEAKER_17: Uh, if he gets a good clean trip, he he really has a good finish.
- 52:01SPEAKER_17: He really loves the distance 400, and and he would actually love to go 442.
- 52:06SPEAKER_17: But um, his horse has been great.
- 52:08SPEAKER_17: He's been as a three-year-old, he's been phenomenal.
- 52:12SPEAKER_17: He's he's just a real easy-going cult.
- 52:14SPEAKER_17: You don't even know he's a stallion, he's just he's so mild-mannered in the paddock, you think he's asleep.
- 52:20SPEAKER_17: And uh he's just a a nice horse.
- 52:22SPEAKER_17: It's really a pleasure to have such a nice horse in the barn.
- 52:26SPEAKER_17: I've had a lot of good ones, and it's been a while since I've had one this good.
- 52:30SPEAKER_06: All of course, maybe it's too early to ask uh how he's come out of it and really give a true assessment of exactly how he came out of the race and and definitely what's next on his radar.
- 52:41SPEAKER_17: You know, um I went over him this morning.
- 52:43SPEAKER_17: He he looked really good.
- 52:45SPEAKER_17: I think um he's a little tired, but I'm probably more tired than him, and I didn't run.
- 52:50SPEAKER_17: So he really he really looks good today, and um his next race will probably be the Governor's Cup Derby uh trials around early July.
- 52:59SPEAKER_06: Well, we look forward to seeing him there, and congratulations, Paul, and another graded effort, and uh look forward to seeing this horse as he progresses throughout his three-year-old year.
- 53:08SPEAKER_17: Okay, thank you, Dig.
- 53:09SPEAKER_06: All right, we went back to Louisiana Downs as Bailey was there this last weekend covering the races for our webcast there on stallioneseearch.com.
- 53:18SPEAKER_06: It was also the Grade 2 Louisiana Downs Open Futurity, a$313,000 race for 300 yards for the two-year-olds.
- 53:27SPEAKER_06: And here's the call.
- 53:29SPEAKER_05: And they're off.
- 53:30SPEAKER_05: Mucho man lady, whoopee cowgirl shooting out for the lead.
- 53:34SPEAKER_05: DK Bonita Jess the far outside.
- 53:35SPEAKER_05: Mojito, your train.
- 53:36SPEAKER_05: Cowgirls 123, whoopee cowgirl outside, DK Bonita Jess, Moo Man Lady, Whoopi Cowgirl has won the Louisiana Downs for Charity.
- 53:46SPEAKER_19: Whoopi Cartel is a two-year-old Philly by Flying Cowboy 123 out of the Tack It Like a Man Mare, Takarosi, read by Dr.
- 53:54SPEAKER_19: Mark Rigby, owned by Dennis Morin, trained by Ramiro Vilireal, and ridden by Jorge Garcia.
- 54:01SPEAKER_06: Next, we look at the AQHA Racing Challenge Championship there at Remington Park.
- 54:06SPEAKER_06: A bunch of three-year-old and upwards going postward in this 440-yard race.
- 54:10SPEAKER_06: The winner, of course, wins a berth into the finals there in Albuquerque later in the year.
- 54:16SPEAKER_06: And here's Del Day with the call.
- 54:18SPEAKER_16: They're off of the Remington Championship Challenge.
- 54:20SPEAKER_16: Great start for all Jay's on fire.
- 54:21SPEAKER_16: Away sharply, so with Shakers No Secret, an outside Cowboys Gun Z.
- 54:24SPEAKER_16: Stetson firing well out of the game as well.
- 54:26SPEAKER_16: As they're into the main stretch, and Stetson on top of the inside.
- 54:29SPEAKER_16: Here comes Jay's on fire.
- 54:30SPEAKER_16: An outside Shakers no secret running a big one as well.
- 54:32SPEAKER_16: Cowboys Gun Z with some work to do.
- 54:34SPEAKER_16: It is Stetson on the lead.
- 54:36SPEAKER_16: Jay's on fire coming along.
- 54:37SPEAKER_16: Stetson will hold on to Prevail by Neck in the Remington Championship Challenge.
- 54:43SPEAKER_19: Stetson is a four-year-old gelding by just good candy out of the one famous Eagle mare, Stella Liu.
- 54:49SPEAKER_19: Read by GR and Shayna Carter, owned by Tom and Luann Smith, trained by Dean Fry and ridden by James Flores.
- 54:56SPEAKER_19: He was an$18,000 RNA purchase at the Redoso Yearling Sale.
- 55:01SPEAKER_06: And we were able to get on the phone with winning trainer Dean Fry about this talented four-year-old coming out of an upset win.
- 55:10SPEAKER_06: Dean Horse ran a great race, qualifies to get into the finals there later in the year in Albuquerque, and obviously long odds on the board just kind of jumps up and surprises everybody here in Remington.
- 55:24SPEAKER_02: Yes, he was definitely long odds on the board, but anybody that pays any attention to these horses, you know, he's won five out of eight races.
- 55:31SPEAKER_02: He broke his maiden in the All-American trials.
- 55:34SPEAKER_02: Did not qualify, but the quarter mile his first time says quite a bit.
- 55:38SPEAKER_02: Breaking their maiden.
- 55:39SPEAKER_02: Qualified for the Remington Derby last year.
- 55:49SPEAKER_02: He's been off for quite a while.
- 55:51SPEAKER_02: Came back another ran another super quarter mile race.
- 55:54SPEAKER_02: Um spoke to his owners the morning of the race.
- 55:56SPEAKER_02: I said, you know, we've asked an awful lot of him.
- 55:59SPEAKER_02: I think he's a really nice horse, but we probably could have found a little better place to run him for the first time.
- 56:04SPEAKER_02: But um it turned out to be a good deal.
- 56:06SPEAKER_02: So we're gonna take it as a win-win situation.
- 56:09SPEAKER_06: Dean, what is what's next on the agenda for this horse?
- 56:12SPEAKER_02: Well, I haven't talked to the clients anymore.
- 56:13SPEAKER_02: We're just trying to wait and see how he comes out of the race and everything.
- 56:16SPEAKER_02: So far so good.
- 56:17SPEAKER_02: But uh I would hope possibly the Remington Park Championship.
- 56:21SPEAKER_02: The Debbie Schaff.
- 56:22SPEAKER_06: Congratulations, Dean, and I appreciate you getting on here and talking about the stakes win here last weekend at Remington Park.
- 56:28SPEAKER_06: Yes, sir.
- 56:29SPEAKER_06: Thank you.
- 56:30SPEAKER_06: Also, there at Remington Park was the Q Racing Video Distance Challenge Stakes, a$40,000 event, 870 yards, three year olds and upward.
- 56:39SPEAKER_06: Another great call from Del Day.
- 56:41SPEAKER_16: They're off for the Q Racing Video Remington Distance Challenge.
- 56:44SPEAKER_16: Clean start.
- 56:45SPEAKER_16: Away sharply.
- 56:46SPEAKER_16: Chicken Hawk right there, handing out Candy, only neck back, now surging for the lead and going for it as they reach the turn.
- 56:51SPEAKER_16: It's handing out candy on top.
- 56:52SPEAKER_16: Three furlongs ago.
- 56:54SPEAKER_16: Chicken Hawk second.
- 56:55SPEAKER_16: FL Rizzo battling for third, being passed by Invincible Streak.
- 56:58SPEAKER_16: And it's next, it is Red Jet, followed by Winchester wide.
- 57:01SPEAKER_16: After that, he's a monster in the trailer.
- 57:05SPEAKER_16: Through traffic as they reach the top of the stretch.
- 57:07SPEAKER_16: It is handing out candy there by half-link.
- 57:09SPEAKER_16: Chicken Hawk didn't float off the turn tonight.
- 57:11SPEAKER_16: And is right there second, running very sharply.
- 57:13SPEAKER_16: Furlong to go here in the distance challenge.
- 57:15SPEAKER_16: It's handing out candy up by a pair.
- 57:18SPEAKER_16: Chicken Hawk is next.
- 57:19SPEAKER_16: Winchester pointed on.
- 57:20SPEAKER_16: Invincible Streak is now fourth.
- 57:22SPEAKER_16: Handing out Candy and Itaralde gets it done to win it by three.
- 57:26SPEAKER_19: Handing Out Candy is a seven-year-old gelding by just good candy out of the Dash to Fame mare O'Anti M.
- 57:33SPEAKER_19: Bred by Paris Wixen, owned by Emilio Perez, trained by Paul Cedillo, and ridden by Omar Itaralde.
- 57:40SPEAKER_19: And was a$30,000 RNA purchase at the Heritage Place winner mix sale.
- 57:44SPEAKER_06: All right, the last race to look at in the recap section is the West Texas Maturity, a$98,000 event, 400 yards out there at Sunland Park.
- 57:54SPEAKER_06: And here's the call.
- 57:55SPEAKER_14: And the thing! R.C.
- 57:57SPEAKER_14: Corona King broke beautifully slowed in big picture.
- 58:00SPEAKER_14: And Paradise Pete is emerging a major danger along with a dream fulfilled at the center.
- 58:05SPEAKER_14: Here comes R.C.
- 58:07SPEAKER_14: Corona King unleashing his late bid.
- 58:09SPEAKER_14: Gonna have to be the dream fulfilled and big picture, big picture alongside the winner, the winner, R.C.
- 58:15SPEAKER_14: Corona King!
- 58:16SPEAKER_19: R.C.
- 58:17SPEAKER_19: Corona King is a six-year-old gelding by I am King out of the D First Mare Classy Odds of De First.
- 58:25SPEAKER_19: Read by Baldemar Para, owned by Jose Riojas, trained by Gerardo Quinonez, and written by Sergio Dominguez.
- 58:34SPEAKER_06: Alright, and we'll be right back after these words from our sponsor.
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- 58:43SPEAKER_06: He was the Grade One Riadosa Futurity winner, and he is royally bred as he is the son of leading sire favorite cartel out of Remember Me Rose, which makes him a full brother to Cyber Attack, Bomb Cyclone, Powerful Favorite, all of those being Grade 1 winning millionaires.
- 58:59SPEAKER_06: Do you know who I'm talking about?
- 59:01SPEAKER_06: That's right, Cyber Monday.
- 59:04SPEAKER_06: So check him out there at Lazy E Ranch in Guthrie, Oklahoma.
- 59:07SPEAKER_11: Also standing is the LaSalle Super Derby winner, Big Lou.
- 59:10SPEAKER_11: The legendary sire, Corona Cartel.
- 59:12SPEAKER_11: The grade one producing sire, Coronado Cartel, the all-time leading sire, first down.
- 59:18SPEAKER_11: The grade one runner-up, Jess Fireme.
- 59:20SPEAKER_11: The Grade 1 winning champion, Kempton.
- 59:23SPEAKER_11: The multiple Grade 1 and Champion Producing Sire, Kiss My Hawks.
- 59:26SPEAKER_11: A sire with nearly$44 million in earnings.
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- 59:31SPEAKER_11: Sire of three champions and five millionaires.
- 59:33SPEAKER_11: Valiant Hero.
- 59:34SPEAKER_11: And introducing for 2026 the Grade 1 winning Unrelentless.
- 59:38SPEAKER_11: All standing at Lazy E Ranch in Guthrie, Oklahoma.
- 59:41SPEAKER_06: What a talented stallion roster at Roboshow Ranch Incorporated in Bro Bridge, Louisiana.
- 59:47SPEAKER_06: A Political Blood, Gold Hard Eagle V, Tempting Dash, Visa, where we're going to mention KVN Corona this week.
- 59:53SPEAKER_06: Siring the Grade One Low Sal Oaks winner, Beautiful, to another Grade 1 victory.
- 59:59SPEAKER_06: Check them out online at RoboshowRanchInc.com.
- 1:00:03SPEAKER_12: Alright, back to the show.
- 1:00:05SPEAKER_06: Alright, it's time to jump into the preview section here, Bailey.
- 1:00:08SPEAKER_06: And we got two big fraturities out there at Sunland Park.
- 1:00:12SPEAKER_19: Yes, Greg, it looks like a great field.
- 1:00:14SPEAKER_19: And you talked to Eric Valenzuela on last week's podcast about the fastest qualifier tempting Lou.
- 1:00:20SPEAKER_06: Going into the West Texas Faturity Agrade 2 event.
- 1:00:23SPEAKER_06: Bailey, one thing that I wanted to point out is that if you go onto the AQHA site and you look at the past history of this stakes event, it's very interesting.
- 1:00:33SPEAKER_06: You know, I've always heard about the Sun Country Faturity and how did it tie into Sunland Park as well as a lot of all American Fraturities winners have come out of the Sun Country Faturity, and it's interesting to read.
- 1:00:47SPEAKER_06: So I'm going to just read it to you real quick, okay, Bailey?
- 1:00:49SPEAKER_06: So just bear with me on these history lessons.
- 1:00:52SPEAKER_06: In 1972 to 1994, this race was the Sun Country Faturity.
- 1:00:57SPEAKER_06: And prior to 1971, it was the Sunland Park Spring Fraturity.
- 1:01:02SPEAKER_06: Now from 1966 to 1994, it was the West Texas Fraturity.
- 1:01:07SPEAKER_06: So it just keeps changing names.
- 1:01:09SPEAKER_06: And prior to 1972, it was ran at Sonora Park and Sonora, Texas.
- 1:01:14SPEAKER_06: And in 1995, the West Texas and Sun Country Fraturities were combined through 1998 where the Sun Country West Texas Sun Country Fraturity, it's just so many jumbled up names.
- 1:01:26SPEAKER_06: And long story short, here we are, grade two event.
- 1:01:29SPEAKER_06: I will also point out one other thing, Bailey.
- 1:01:31SPEAKER_06: There has not been an All-American Fraturity winner come out of this race since 1989 when Strawberry Silk went down the lane here with Jackie Martin and Jack Brooks on there.
- 1:01:41SPEAKER_06: Jack Brooks and Jackie Martin, nine wins in this race as well.
- 1:01:46SPEAKER_06: So very interesting history lesson on this race.
- 1:01:48SPEAKER_06: But going back to this edition in 2026, yes, the fastest qualifier looks tough in this spot.
- 1:01:55SPEAKER_06: A$77,000 TQHA sale yearling trained by Eric Valenzuela.
- 1:02:01SPEAKER_06: Simmons Racing is the breeder here attempting Nashville and should be really tough in this spot.
- 1:02:07SPEAKER_19: Another horse that I liked in this race, Greg, was Tater Hill Senator, a Cyber Monday gelding trained by Clint Crawford.
- 1:02:13SPEAKER_19: And he had the second fastest time.
- 1:02:15SPEAKER_06: Yes, rent by Jacob Enriquez has him in the finals going forth.
- 1:02:19SPEAKER_06: He's a$40,000 Rito So sell yearling and Bailey.
- 1:02:23SPEAKER_06: I there's just so many of them in here that after only having one start could really fire away and be the winner and the victor here, including the third fastest, AB Miss Robin.
- 1:02:34SPEAKER_06: Very well bred.
- 1:02:35SPEAKER_06: Remember me, Robin, on the bottom side of this pedigree.
- 1:02:38SPEAKER_06: A political blood on the top, written by Nestor Duran.
- 1:02:42SPEAKER_06: Also should be tough here in the finals.
- 1:02:44SPEAKER_06: I believe it's 9-2 on the morning line.
- 1:02:46SPEAKER_06: So looking forward to this West Texas Futurity final.
- 1:02:49SPEAKER_19: And the next big race at Sunland Park is the New Mexican Spring Fling Faturity.
- 1:02:53SPEAKER_19: A restricted grade two event,$400,000, two-year-olds going 300 yards.
- 1:03:00SPEAKER_06: Yes, Bailey, on that big race day coming on April the 4th there in Sunlin at in uh El Paso.
- 1:03:07SPEAKER_06: We got the last five races on the card are all stakes races.
- 1:03:12SPEAKER_06: So a huge day, including this big fraterty, restricted grade two event.
- 1:03:17SPEAKER_06: And uh you you kind of like the favorite, don't you?
- 1:03:19SPEAKER_19: Yes, he was definitely a standout in the trials.
- 1:03:22SPEAKER_19: He was a$155,000 Redoso yearling cell graduate and is trained by Eric Valenzuela.
- 1:03:28SPEAKER_06: He's got three in the finals.
- 1:03:29SPEAKER_06: So does Xavier Rodriguez, winner of the All-American Derby last year.
- 1:03:34SPEAKER_06: Well, world champion Xavier Rodriguez, I should call him.
- 1:03:38SPEAKER_06: And uh he also has a slew of runners here, including several of them that should be watched.
- 1:03:43SPEAKER_06: But another horse I would probably keep my eyes on is Clint Crawford train Big Avery, who ran a huge race in the trial first time out, ran a 15.136 seconds here going down the lane at the 300 yards.
- 1:03:59SPEAKER_06: And another thing I'd like to point out, Bailey, that the New Mexico Breads are going to be running for a larger purse than the open breads in the West Texas Futurity.
- 1:04:07SPEAKER_06: This is a$402,000 purse.
- 1:04:10SPEAKER_19: It'll be a big day at Sunlum Park for New Mexico Breads.
- 1:04:13SPEAKER_06: Yes, and we look forward to bringing it in the recap section along with interviews of the big winners of these big two futurities next week on Quarter Horse Racing Talk.
- 1:04:24SPEAKER_06: And we'll be right back after these words from our sponsor.
- 1:04:31SPEAKER_06: All right, Bailey, that's all the time we have here on Quarter Horse Racing Talk.
- 1:04:35SPEAKER_06: Another great episode of the podcast.
- 1:04:38SPEAKER_06: We're getting a lot of great feedback.
- 1:04:40SPEAKER_06: Uh, definitely really, this is a great one.
- 1:04:43SPEAKER_06: I I think Robert Fox had a lot to talk about.
- 1:04:46SPEAKER_06: And of course, his experience with the All-American was just something that rose to the top.
- 1:04:51SPEAKER_06: And I was so glad to be able to get it on uh the podcast here.
- 1:04:54SPEAKER_06: And for everybody here, some of the the great things that have happened there at Riyodoso.
- 1:04:58SPEAKER_19: Yes, Greg, we're pausing our educational series this week to switch gears and highlight someone from within the industry, but we'll be back on the educational series next week.
- 1:05:07SPEAKER_06: Absolutely.
- 1:05:08SPEAKER_06: Ready to jump back into maybe for another sh one or two show run.
- 1:05:12SPEAKER_06: What do you think, Bailey?
- 1:05:14SPEAKER_19: I like it.
- 1:05:14SPEAKER_06: Yes.
- 1:05:15SPEAKER_06: On behalf of Greg Thompson, Austallian eSearch, and I'm Bailey Ivy.
- 1:05:19SPEAKER_06: And we'll see you next week here on Quarter Horse Racing Talk.