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Furness Show 8-31: Mollywhop Monday, Corbin Smith, Hugh Millen · The Ian Furness Show

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  Speaker 1: It's officially week one in college football. The Apple Cup
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  Speaker 1: is Sunday. Clemson LSU is the highlight on Saturday. We've
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  Speaker 1: got games coming up this weekend. Cutdown day in the
• 0:09
  Speaker 1: NFL yesterday. Got all those things going on. And you
• 0:12
  Speaker 1: know what's good about that? That takes your mind off
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  Speaker 1: of the local Major League Baseball team. Which is a
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  Speaker 1: good thing. Because they're not good. I just mentioned this
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  Speaker 1: in the headlines. I'm trying to wrap my arms around this, Anders.
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  Speaker 1: And we'll mollywop at 1 o'clock today. They are nine
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  Speaker 1: games under.
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  Speaker 2: 500.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. This is a team that was on the brink
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  Speaker 1: of going to the World Series last season, and they
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  Speaker 1: are nine games under. 500. How in the world did
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  Speaker 1: we get here? And five games back in the wild card,
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  Speaker 1: five games back in the AL West. With 25 games
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  Speaker 1: left to go. Very much everything in front of them, blah, blah, blah,
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  Speaker 1: all that stuff, sure.
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  Speaker 3: No.
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  Speaker 4: But.
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  Speaker 1: I disagree. You disagree?
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  Speaker 5: They're dead.
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  Speaker 3: Well.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, here's the thing.
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  Speaker 5: They're dead.
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  Speaker 1: It certainly feels that way.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: And I think in most years, you would be... I
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  Speaker 1: wouldn't even push back with you.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: But this year, I'm just looking at the American League standings. God,
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  Speaker 1: it's awful.
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  Speaker 5: Okay, I don't care what the standings say. Because Toronto's
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  Speaker 5: in a very similar situation to the Mariners are, standings-wise.
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  Speaker 3: Right.
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  Speaker 5: But you saw what a team that's desperate to make
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  Speaker 5: the playoffs looked like across the diamond this weekend.
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  Speaker 1: I'm going to go back to Friday's show, because we
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  Speaker 1: talked about that, you, Chris, and I talked about it.
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  Speaker 1: That if one of the two teams this past weekend
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  Speaker 1: in Toronto, Seattle, or Toronto, got a sweep, right? That
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  Speaker 1: would probably, it wouldn't mathematically eliminate you from the wildcard race, right?
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  Speaker 1: But it would put you in a situation that would
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  Speaker 1: be really, really challenging, like really difficult to overcome. And
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  Speaker 1: I frankly, honestly, there's some weird sicko part of me
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  Speaker 1: that was thinking, yeah, I wouldn't be surprised if the
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  Speaker 1: Mariners go and sweep Toronto. The other thing happened. They
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  Speaker 1: got swept. Because we also, did we not agree, someone's
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  Speaker 1: going to win two of three, and that muddling middle
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  Speaker 1: mess is just going to still exist. Somebody's going to
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  Speaker 1: gain one game. Someone's going to lose one game. But
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  Speaker 1: it really doesn't affect you. Well, the reality is Seattle
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  Speaker 1: got swept. They're nine games under.
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  Speaker 7: 500.
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  Speaker 1: Cleveland holds down the final wildcard spot. They're one game over. 500,
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  Speaker 1: by the way. One game back would be Baltimore. One
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  Speaker 1: and a half games back is Toronto. Two games back
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  Speaker 1: is Texas, and four games back is Minnesota. So just
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  Speaker 1: to get to the point where you can see Cleveland,
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  Speaker 1: you've got to pass Minnesota, Texas, Toronto, and Baltimore. That's
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  Speaker 1: four teams, and then Cleveland makes it five. That is
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  Speaker 1: hard to do. Detroit feels like they're done. They're 2-8
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  Speaker 1: in their last 10. They're a half game behind you.
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  Speaker 1: They probably feel like they're done. They traded their best pitcher.
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  Speaker 1: Saw a young guy. He's pretty good, I heard. But
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  Speaker 1: I don't even look at it. I'm going to go
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  Speaker 1: back to what we said on Friday. I want to
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  Speaker 1: stay consistent with that. I feel like the wild card is,
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  Speaker 1: and we've talked about it, that the division is your
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  Speaker 1: best chance.
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  Speaker 3: Right?
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  Speaker 1: We've talked about that. That feels now like you might
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  Speaker 1: as well be an American League East team, that the
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  Speaker 1: wild card is your only shot if you're not named,
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  Speaker 1: you know, Toronto or, I mean, Tampa or the Yankees. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Because there's so much traffic in front of you. You'd
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  Speaker 1: have to have a lot of things bounce your way. Houston, though,
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  Speaker 1: give them credit, man. They went and won a couple
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  Speaker 1: series in the Big Apple.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Good for them. Texas, they're not doing much, but they
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  Speaker 1: both got a win yesterday.
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  Speaker 5: Staying alive.
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  Speaker 1: And they're staying alive. And they've got some distance between
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  Speaker 1: Seattle and those two teams. It is, I don't know, Anders,
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  Speaker 1: how to describe it other than it's got to be
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  Speaker 1: one of the most disappointing seasons ever in Seattle sports.
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  Speaker 1: And I'm not just talking Mariners. I'm just talking Seattle sports. Period.
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  Speaker 1: With the expectations you had, and you will enter the
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  Speaker 1: month of September, at best, at best, eight games under. 500.
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  Speaker 1: At best. But possibly reaching that weird threshold of being
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  Speaker 1: 10 games under. 500 with 24 left to go.
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  Speaker 5: The worst part isn't even the record itself. It's A,
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  Speaker 5: how it's looked. It looks completely lifeless. You've already lost
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  Speaker 5: a series to Toronto, a team that ended your season
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  Speaker 5: last year, by the way, in that building. And you
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  Speaker 5: have a chance. Alright, we're not going to let them
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  Speaker 5: sweep us. We need to at least get one of
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  Speaker 5: the games back. And you have probably the worst game
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  Speaker 5: of the year yesterday where you let the ghost of
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  Speaker 5: Max Scherzer dice you up for his season-high strikeouts. Looks
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  Speaker 5: like he's in Cy Young form, even though he has
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  Speaker 5: a 7 ERA this year. I mean, one hit, more
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  Speaker 5: mental mistakes, just a complete lack of focus. This team
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  Speaker 5: is soft. They're mentally weak. They... They have no accountability.
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  Speaker 5: Softie's mentioned that a few times. And honestly, it's gross
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  Speaker 5: to watch. And that's the worst part about it.
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  Speaker 1: They had, over the weekend, 12 total hits and 4
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  Speaker 1: total runs. 12 hits, 4 runs. That should be a ballgame.
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  Speaker 3: Right?
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  Speaker 1: Like that, that, that should.
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  Speaker 5: Be, that's like a good ball game.
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  Speaker 8: That's good.
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  Speaker 1: Like a good say we, we got it going like
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  Speaker 1: a 12 hit, not outrageous.
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  Speaker 8: Right.
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  Speaker 3: Right.
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  Speaker 5: No, you just good.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, I'm just looking back. There's a number of
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  Speaker 1: teams that had double digit hits just yesterday in baseball,
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  Speaker 1: you know, like it shouldn't be that hard. And yet
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  Speaker 1: that's what it ends up being. It's just, I think
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  Speaker 1: the frustration level two for fans has reached an all
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  Speaker 1: time high and we'll, we'll get into all this coming
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  Speaker 1: up with the Molly Wap guys at, at one o'clock,
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  Speaker 1: but I think the frustration of all involved is, is, is,
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  Speaker 1: is understandable. It's, it's also something that you just kind of,
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  Speaker 1: I'll be honest with you. I didn't see it coming.
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  Speaker 1: I think when the season ended last year is disappointing
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  Speaker 1: as it was, you had that feeling of, okay, they're
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  Speaker 1: on the right track. Will they do enough in the
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  Speaker 1: off season? Well, the answer was no. They didn't address
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  Speaker 1: third base. They tried to, I guess, with Donovan, but God,
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  Speaker 1: what a waste. And not by his own choice. Nobody
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  Speaker 1: wants to get hurt. Right. But he's not a third
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  Speaker 1: baseman at this point in his career. So he never
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  Speaker 1: addressed that. You rush up Cole Emerson. Maybe you waited
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  Speaker 1: too long to bring Cade in up here. I mean, just,
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  Speaker 1: it feels like, and then the Rob Ref Snyder, you know,
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  Speaker 1: Tommy LaStella move, which... Gotta have one of those every year.
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  Speaker 5: It turns into Taylor Ward.
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  Speaker 1: You know, I know it's fun, and I'm as guilty
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  Speaker 1: as anybody to ask questions and criticize the catcher and
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  Speaker 1: Julio to a certain extent as well.
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  Speaker 5: Where in Hades has Julio been?
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  Speaker 6: Well.
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  Speaker 1: I'm sorry, but... We can question Julio. We can question
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  Speaker 1: a lot of these guys. The Taylor Ward trade has
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  Speaker 1: been a nothing. A zero. A zilch on the board.
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  Speaker 1: Like I, so you go from being a power hitter
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  Speaker 1: to the best block slash on base guy. Either one
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  Speaker 1: of those would work.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: We'll take either one.
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  Speaker 1: Either one would work. Instead you get Rob Refsnyder.
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  Speaker 5: It's true.
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  Speaker 3: Right.
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  Speaker 8: It's honestly, it's true.
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  Speaker 1: And, and Colton Wong and Tommy LaStella and AJ Pollock
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  Speaker 1: and all the rest. That's what you get.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: How does that happen? What is in the water here?
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  Speaker 1: Tribal ground.
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  Speaker 3: Burial.
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  Speaker 1: That's what it is. Chief Self. Chief Self somewhere is
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  Speaker 1: smiling to himself saying, I told you not to build here.
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  Speaker 1: I told you not to build here. Damn you. Oh
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  Speaker 1: my God. All right. More on them later. While we
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  Speaker 1: walk at one. Stand by. Stand by for the Molly
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  Speaker 1: Watt Monday, boys, coming up at 1 o'clock today. Corbin Smith,
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  Speaker 1: we're going to check in with Corbin next. We're going
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  Speaker 1: to find out what's going on Seahawk land. They're starting
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  Speaker 1: to do some practice squad movement. Get his thoughts on
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  Speaker 1: what was done when it was all said and done
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  Speaker 1: as far as the roster moves are going.
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  Speaker 6: So all that's coming up on 93.3 KDRFM. It's time
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  Speaker 6: to take a deep dive into all things Seahawks with
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  Speaker 6: Corbin Smith, sports reporter for Emerald City Spectrum. All Seattle sports,
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  Speaker 6: with Corbin Smith, here's Ian.
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  Speaker 1: All right, we'll get a little football talk. That'll get
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  Speaker 1: us away from the baseball team for a minute, which
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  Speaker 1: is probably good for everyone's mental health and well-being and
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  Speaker 1: so forth. So let's do that. Yesterday was cut-down day
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  Speaker 1: in the NFL. So you actually get a few days off.
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  Speaker 1: There's a mandatory some time off with their early schedule.
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  Speaker 1: There usually be like a Labor Day weekend, but they
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  Speaker 1: got to get ready for a Wednesday game, which is
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  Speaker 1: still the oddest thing ever. But those are small problems
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  Speaker 1: when you're the Super Bowl champions. Corbin Smith joins us.
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  Speaker 1: I just read your story here. The cut-down takeaways, Montori
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  Speaker 1: Foster Jr., Amongst the ex-earned spot in the initial 53-man roster,
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  Speaker 1: there's a lot going on. I don't even know if
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  Speaker 1: things have changed. I think 1 o'clock is when things
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  Speaker 1: really can happen, and away we go. I know that
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  Speaker 1: they lost one player, I think Jared Ivey, right? Got
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  Speaker 1: claimed off waivers by somebody. But, Corbin, first of all,
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  Speaker 1: how are you, my friend? I'm good.
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  Speaker 3: How are you?
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  Speaker 1: I'm good.
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  Speaker 6: I'm good.
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  Speaker 1: Before we get to just kind of take away thoughts
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  Speaker 1: on the roster, where this team is, Let's just take
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  Speaker 1: a little bit of a step back and kind of
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  Speaker 1: re-educate everybody. There's different things here in play, correct? I'll
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  Speaker 1: let you kind of explain it. You did a good
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  Speaker 1: job in your story. Just how it how it actually
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  Speaker 1: works because the 53 man roster announced yesterday is far
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  Speaker 1: from a finished product.
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  Speaker 9: It's going to go through a lot of alterations over
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  Speaker 9: the next nine to 10 days before Seattle plays new England. And,
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  Speaker 9: you know, I saw some fans that were panicking a
• 10:11
  Speaker 9: little bit, reading the story that I put together, like
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  Speaker 9: three safeties. Why do we only have three safeties or,
• 10:17
  Speaker 9: you know, why do we only have five corners? Why
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  Speaker 9: do we have three, 18 offensive linemen. The first 53-man
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  Speaker 9: roster is all about trying to protect the assets that.
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  Speaker 4: You're worried about getting claimed on waivers.
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  Speaker 9: You are trying to keep as many of your young
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  Speaker 9: talents as you can, and the ones that you think
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  Speaker 9: are going to slip through, you take the risk. And
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  Speaker 9: one of the ways that teams can make it that
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  Speaker 9: they have fewer of those guys testing the waiver waters
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  Speaker 9: is with the vested veterans. If they have four or
• 10:49
  Speaker 9: more accrued seasons in the NFL, they are not subject
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  Speaker 9: to the waiver wire. So those guys can be signed
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  Speaker 9: quickly to your practice squad or brought back on the
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  Speaker 9: active roster if you make another move to open up
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  Speaker 9: a spot for them. But it gives you the flexibility
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  Speaker 9: initially to keep as many guys from hitting the waiver
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  Speaker 9: wire as possible to try to limit the damage so
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  Speaker 9: that you don't have three or four guys get claimed
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  Speaker 9: the way that Jared Ivey was by Atlanta today.
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  Speaker 1: Let's go through a couple of the highlights, and we'll
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  Speaker 1: start first with the good story that is Montori Foster Jr., No.
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  Speaker 10: 87.
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  Speaker 1: He is on the roster. The great story. It was
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  Speaker 1: chronicled in Hard Knocks. You've talked to him. It feels
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  Speaker 1: like he's one of those guys we all get a
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  Speaker 1: chance to talk to during training camp. Just how good
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  Speaker 1: a story is this?
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  Speaker 4: I don't want.
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  Speaker 9: To say it's unprecedented because we see stuff like this
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  Speaker 9: happen in NFL camps, but for a defending Super Bowl champion–
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  Speaker 9: that has as many returning pieces as the Seahawks have.
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  Speaker 9: And I know there's been a few injuries that have
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  Speaker 9: happened along the way too, that have opened up some
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  Speaker 9: roster spots, but for a player that was not on
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  Speaker 9: an NFL team, most of his rookie year was substitute teaching,
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  Speaker 9: got his real estate license. I mean, he was preparing
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  Speaker 9: for life after football while still preparing to play football.
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  Speaker 9: And then he gets the call late December to come
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  Speaker 9: back to the Seahawks. And that six, seven weeks that
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  Speaker 9: he was back with the team, uh, really catapulted him
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  Speaker 9: into the spring when OTA started and for a guy
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  Speaker 9: like that on this receiving core that is stacked with
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  Speaker 9: talent for him to be able to force Seattle's hand
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  Speaker 9: like we can't release this guy he's been too valuable
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  Speaker 9: he's done too many things on special teams he's gotten
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  Speaker 9: it done as a blocker like he has forced our
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  Speaker 9: hand I think if Jake Bobo was healthy that Montori
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  Speaker 9: Foster still makes this team that that's how good he's
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  Speaker 9: been he absolutely earned the spot and And talking to
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  Speaker 9: John Schneider yesterday, I asked him about Foster, and he
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  Speaker 9: made it clear that he doesn't remember a receiver improving
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  Speaker 9: more in such a short period of time than this
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  Speaker 9: kid has, which that's a testament to the work he's
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  Speaker 9: put in, the coaching he's gotten, and now here he
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  Speaker 9: is with a chance to play on Sundays for the
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  Speaker 9: defending champions.
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  Speaker 1: Corbin Smith joining us, Emerald City Spectrum, EmeraldCitySpectrum.com. What is
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  Speaker 1: the one surprise? What was the surprise? Or maybe there's
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  Speaker 1: multiple surprises. When you guys walked out and watched practice
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  Speaker 1: yesterday and someone was there, wasn't there, whatever the case
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  Speaker 1: might have been, what really kind of shocked you after
• 13:20
  Speaker 1: watching the last month or so of training camp?
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  Speaker 9: I was surprised with how the cornerback position played out
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  Speaker 9: in particular because Julian Neal's missed almost the entire training camp.
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  Speaker 9: I thought he was going to be a candidate to
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  Speaker 9: start the year on injury reserve. but he was out
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  Speaker 9: there practicing yesterday and it sounds like they think he
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  Speaker 9: is over the hump with the quad injury that's kept
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  Speaker 9: him out. So he's on the active roster, not an
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  Speaker 9: injured reserve designation.
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  Speaker 4: And then Michael Dansby and Andre Fuller both get cut.
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  Speaker 9: I thought one of them was going to get kept,
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  Speaker 9: but then they went out and traded for Avery Smith,
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  Speaker 9: got him from the chargers. And he's the, he's ends
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  Speaker 9: up being the rookie corner that is on the initial roster.
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  Speaker 9: So Then you have Trayvon Diggs going to cuts. We're
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  Speaker 9: going to ramp him up on the practice squad. I
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  Speaker 9: can tell you that he is officially back on the
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  Speaker 9: practice squad. It just felt like that position went very
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  Speaker 9: different than I thought it was going to.
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  Speaker 4: A lot of the other ones felt like chalk. Cornerback
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  Speaker 4: was not.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's the one that's odd to me, and I
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  Speaker 1: want to stay there for a second. Do you think
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  Speaker 1: there's any remorse or any questioning inside on maybe we
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  Speaker 1: should have kept Reek Wollin?
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  Speaker 10: I don't know if.
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  Speaker 1: There's remorse about it.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, you can't keep everybody.
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  Speaker 9: And I think that they, I think they feel they
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  Speaker 9: handled that situation the best they could. And here's the thing,
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  Speaker 9: Nehemiah Pritchett, from my observations, I feel like Nehemiah Pritchett
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  Speaker 9: had a good camp and played well in the preseason.
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  Speaker 9: So I think that they, more than anything, they saw
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  Speaker 9: that there were some veteran options out there that they
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  Speaker 9: felt could be upgrades over what they had, rather than
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  Speaker 9: it being a, we regret we didn't bring back Reed
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  Speaker 9: Woolen type situation. But, Certainly, it's easy to see why
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  Speaker 9: all the moves that they have made through signings and
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  Speaker 9: trades that it would suggest they are not happy with
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  Speaker 9: what they have after their first two guys.
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  Speaker 1: Talk about Trevon Diggs. What's the situation there?
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  Speaker 9: Yeah, this was just simply a situation where because he's
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  Speaker 9: only been with the team for like 10 days, even
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  Speaker 9: though he played well in that preseason game against Kansas City,
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  Speaker 9: it was a preseason game. they feel like he needs
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  Speaker 9: that a little bit more time to get ramped up
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  Speaker 9: so that he could play a full regular season game
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  Speaker 9: and have a full understanding of this scheme that he
• 15:38
  Speaker 9: has now jumped headfirst into. So John Schneider called it
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  Speaker 9: the ramp up period. And obviously he wants to be here.
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  Speaker 9: It was the team that he chose to sign with
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  Speaker 9: late and free agency. So that was kind of where
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  Speaker 9: that respect and culture comes in. Hey, we're going to
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  Speaker 9: release you, but we want you back and you're going
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  Speaker 9: to get to play at some point. And so that's,
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  Speaker 9: the end game that they have here, there's really a
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  Speaker 9: lot of long-term plays, at least for the season with
• 16:04
  Speaker 9: the moves they've made. And obviously Terry on Arnold, that's
• 16:07
  Speaker 9: a long-term play beyond this year. Assuming that he doesn't
• 16:10
  Speaker 9: even play this season, who knows if he does or not,
• 16:13
  Speaker 9: but they're trying to look with a long-term lens with
• 16:17
  Speaker 9: a lot of these moves. And they're trying to make
• 16:18
  Speaker 9: sure that they have plenty of depth that when the
• 16:21
  Speaker 9: injuries and stuff do happen, that they've got capable guys
• 16:24
  Speaker 9: ready to go.
• 16:25
  Speaker 1: And they're not bringing in somebody off the street all
• 16:27
  Speaker 1: the time. Corbin Smith, Emerald City Spectrum, joining us at EmeraldCitySpectrum.com.
• 16:31
  Speaker 1: Three draft picks. Jadarian Price, your first round pick. Bo Stevens,
• 16:35
  Speaker 1: fifth round pick on the offensive side. And Julian Neal
• 16:39
  Speaker 1: on the defensive side, as you mentioned. So just three
• 16:41
  Speaker 1: of the draft picks make the initial 53, man. Now,
• 16:46
  Speaker 1: of the draft picks who released, who do you expect
• 16:48
  Speaker 1: to see back on the practice squad?
• 16:52
  Speaker 9: Well, the rookie corners, I can already tell you are
• 16:54
  Speaker 9: coming back. Michael Dansby and Andre Fuller are going to
• 16:56
  Speaker 9: be on the practice squad. I would anticipate that Emmanuel
• 17:00
  Speaker 9: Henderson is going to be here as well.
• 17:02
  Speaker 1: Devin Eastern is the one that's going.
• 17:04
  Speaker 9: To be interesting because I just didn't see enough in
• 17:07
  Speaker 9: training camp in the preseason. I felt like J.R. Singleton
• 17:11
  Speaker 9: was a much more effective player and J.R. Singleton is
• 17:14
  Speaker 9: also available to bring back. So is it possible they
• 17:17
  Speaker 9: could resign both those guys?
• 17:19
  Speaker 1: Absolutely.
• 17:20
  Speaker 9: But Eastern would be the one of those latter four
• 17:23
  Speaker 9: picks that I would feel least confident about getting to
• 17:25
  Speaker 9: come back.
• 17:26
  Speaker 1: Uso Sayamalo was a star in hard knocks, and he's
• 17:31
  Speaker 1: kind of felt like him and Eastern were in that
• 17:33
  Speaker 1: same category. Is there a chance that they bring the
• 17:36
  Speaker 1: big fellow Sayamalo back on the practice squad?
• 17:38
  Speaker 7: No.
• 17:41
  Speaker 9: That would be very similar to me to Devin Eastern.
• 17:45
  Speaker 9: I don't feel like either one of those guys, that
• 17:48
  Speaker 9: is an instance where being a storyline on hard knocks
• 17:50
  Speaker 9: doesn't necessarily get you.
• 17:52
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 17:52
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 17:52
  Speaker 9: So I, I don't know that he is going to
• 17:55
  Speaker 9: be brought back in that capacity either, especially when you
• 17:57
  Speaker 9: have Brandon Peely on your roster. I, I just don't
• 18:00
  Speaker 9: know that they have the need to do that. I
• 18:02
  Speaker 9: think they would probably want the more versatile guy, which
• 18:05
  Speaker 9: Devin Eastern would fit that bill, but so does J.R.
• 18:07
  Speaker 3: Singleton. J.R.
• 18:08
  Speaker 9: Singleton's got some pass rushing abilities. So, It's possible that
• 18:12
  Speaker 9: any of those three could be back. I would say
• 18:14
  Speaker 9: it would go Singleton, and then I would say Eastern,
• 18:18
  Speaker 9: then Sumalo probably would be the order.
• 18:21
  Speaker 1: Brandon Peele is a good story, too. I just want
• 18:24
  Speaker 1: to point him out for a second. I'm just going
• 18:25
  Speaker 1: through 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17.
• 18:26
  Speaker 1: From my count, 20 transactions since he came into the
• 18:27
  Speaker 1: league in 2023. Most of them would be the following. Waived, waived, waived.
• 18:41
  Speaker 1: claimed waved, et cetera. I feel like Brandon Peely has
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: established himself as an NFL player.
• 18:49
  Speaker 6: Yep.
• 18:49
  Speaker 9: He's a great example of a guy that had to
• 18:52
  Speaker 9: scratch and claw. He was with multiple teams and then he,
• 18:56
  Speaker 9: you know, Seattle liked him, but we don't like you
• 18:58
  Speaker 9: enough to keep you on the squad. And we're, you know,
• 19:00
  Speaker 9: they gave him the $ 2 million contract. This off season
• 19:04
  Speaker 9: is a reward for his work last year, playing in
• 19:07
  Speaker 9: 13 games. And there were still a few times he
• 19:08
  Speaker 9: was a healthy scratched. But, you know, he was a
• 19:12
  Speaker 9: big-time contributor on that front line. I think he's become
• 19:15
  Speaker 9: a true NFL caliber nose tackle, which there's just.
• 19:18
  Speaker 1: Not a lot of those hanging around in the league
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: these days. Corbin, I'm going to go back to the
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: receiver position. They've got right now five guys on the–
• 19:27
  Speaker 1: and before we get to maybe, you know, we'll see
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: if they– Ricky White and Manuel Henderson, those guys end
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: up on the practice squad probably. But right now they've
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: got five guys. But one of those guys is Torrey Horton.
• 19:37
  Speaker 1: Is there a concern at all about his health?
• 19:40
  Speaker 9: Not from what Mike McDonald and John Schneider have said
• 19:43
  Speaker 9: in the last week. Now, maybe he isn't going to
• 19:45
  Speaker 9: be ready for week one. If that's the case, you
• 19:48
  Speaker 9: better have some receivers in your practice school. that are
• 19:50
  Speaker 9: going to be ready to come up, which no Manuel Henderson,
• 19:53
  Speaker 9: Ricky White, Cody White, those are all really good candidates
• 19:56
  Speaker 9: to do that. They can get back on your practice squad.
• 19:58
  Speaker 9: But my understanding from what Schneider and McDonald have said,
• 20:03
  Speaker 9: this is not a long-term thing they're concerned about. It's
• 20:06
  Speaker 9: not like last year with the shin where it was
• 20:08
  Speaker 9: like a state secret. The thing is, we don't know
• 20:12
  Speaker 9: what the injury is though. Nobody has said what the
• 20:15
  Speaker 9: injury is, but it doesn't sound like this is a
• 20:18
  Speaker 9: significant one. So I don't think there's any reason to
• 20:22
  Speaker 9: be worried on that front. You can worry about the
• 20:24
  Speaker 9: durability concerns as a whole with him because he had
• 20:28
  Speaker 9: some injury issues in college too, but I would think
• 20:31
  Speaker 9: that he's going to be playing sooner rather than later.
• 20:34
  Speaker 9: The fact they didn't put him at injured reserve as
• 20:36
  Speaker 9: well indicates that.
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: I'll cater to your favorite position, the running backs. Jadarian Price,
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: George Helani, Emanuel Wilson. Brady Russell's a fullback, but those
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: three guys at running back. How should Seahawks fans feel
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: about that group?
• 20:53
  Speaker 9: You know, if everybody's healthy, I think that that is
• 20:55
  Speaker 9: a more than capable backfield, and he got a lot
• 20:59
  Speaker 9: of different styles. I think all three of those backs
• 21:02
  Speaker 9: bring some different skill sets to the table. We haven't
• 21:04
  Speaker 9: gotten to see Price other than on the training camp field,
• 21:07
  Speaker 9: but certainly he's looked dynamic in that setting. You're going
• 21:10
  Speaker 9: to be throwing him into his first NFL game action
• 21:13
  Speaker 9: against the defending AFC champs, so that's going to be
• 21:16
  Speaker 9: a little bit of a pressure cooker in week one
• 21:18
  Speaker 9: for him, but I think he's more than talented enough
• 21:21
  Speaker 9: to be able to handle that, and then You know
• 21:23
  Speaker 9: where I stand with Helani, and I think Helani is
• 21:25
  Speaker 9: just a rock-solid No. 2 back that's got the pass-catching
• 21:28
  Speaker 9: and pass-protecting skills. And Emmanuel Wilson was out there yesterday,
• 21:34
  Speaker 9: and he was doing some stuff. He's been dealing with
• 21:35
  Speaker 9: a hamstring injury, but before that, I thought he looked
• 21:38
  Speaker 9: pretty impressive as a downhill, faster-than-you-expect, 230-pound battering ram. So
• 21:44
  Speaker 9: he's going to be the one that really fills Charbonnet's
• 21:46
  Speaker 9: role until Sharves is back, and I would anticipate that
• 21:50
  Speaker 9: they're going to try to get Jakardia Wright and or
• 21:53
  Speaker 9: Valus Jones back in the practice squad so they have
• 21:55
  Speaker 9: a little insurance there as well.
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: A lot of people are talking about Valus Jones maybe
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: having the advantage over Jakardia Wright. Who do you think
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: fits better for what they need? And it doesn't mean
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: they couldn't join any time during the year either.
• 22:07
  Speaker 9: You know, I think Valus Jones' ability to catch the
• 22:10
  Speaker 9: football really creates– makes him a really valuable chess piece
• 22:17
  Speaker 9: to have in your pocket to utilize. And at the
• 22:20
  Speaker 9: same time, every time Jakardi Wright plays, I mean, this
• 22:24
  Speaker 9: last preseason game, he had no blocking to speak of
• 22:26
  Speaker 9: in that game. But when he's had a little bit
• 22:28
  Speaker 9: of blocking to work with, we've seen a really dynamic
• 22:31
  Speaker 9: runner at 220 plus pounds. So I'd actually lean towards
• 22:36
  Speaker 9: Jakardi Wright there if I had to pick one or
• 22:38
  Speaker 9: the other. But I think that Valus Jones gives you
• 22:41
  Speaker 9: a lot of flexibility to have both of them because
• 22:43
  Speaker 9: he's played receiver in the league.
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: Just quickly on the defensive side again, the inside linebackers,
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: Thomas and Jones are the starters. Tyrese Knight had a
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: great training camp, great preseason. Patio gets kept, Patrick O'Connell
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: and Chaz Surratt. So you've got five guys. That surprised me. Okay,
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: and that was what I was going to ask you.
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: I thought Surratt was good. I thought O'Connell. Both those
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: guys showed flashes, right? Tyrese Knight wasn't going anywhere. I
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: was a little surprised they kept both those guys. Doesn't
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: mean they can't. Hell, I could look up right now.
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: Maybe they put one of those guys on waivers. Who knows?
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: But I was a little surprised they kept those guys. Obviously,
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: they were worried about losing somebody.
• 23:20
  Speaker 4: Yeah, they were probably worried about with both of.
• 23:22
  Speaker 9: Them being really good special teams players that somebody was
• 23:25
  Speaker 9: going to pluck them up, but The thing that's weird
• 23:27
  Speaker 9: about it is in the past, they've been more than
• 23:30
  Speaker 9: happy to release Patrick O'Connell because they felt like they
• 23:33
  Speaker 9: could slip him through, but they must have had an
• 23:35
  Speaker 9: inkling that wasn't going.
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: To happen this time.
• 23:38
  Speaker 9: And Chaz Surratt was a little banged up last week,
• 23:40
  Speaker 9: so I actually wondered if he might be an injured
• 23:43
  Speaker 9: reserve candidate to try to stash him, but that clearly
• 23:47
  Speaker 9: was not the case there, and he was out practicing yesterday.
• 23:50
  Speaker 9: So that is a position that I could see some shuffling, though,
• 23:53
  Speaker 9: where One of those guys gets cut in the second
• 23:56
  Speaker 9: round of waivers, and then Seattle then signs a safety
• 24:00
  Speaker 9: or a corner or another position back onto the 53.
• 24:04
  Speaker 9: There's going to be some musical chairs.
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: There always is.
• 24:08
  Speaker 8: All right.
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: When it's all said and done, three draft picks, two
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: free agents in Wilson and Dante Fowler Jr., and the
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: trade for Avery Smith. So what is that? That's six
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: total players. on the 53-man that at some point in
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: time were not here last year. People say Montori Foster
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: was here off and on. So just in terms of
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: guys that were either here, they were part of the,
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: as they like to call it, the 70-man roster with
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: the practice squad. They only have, I mean, when it's
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: all said and done, on the 53-man, six additions from
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: last year. Overall, thoughts on the strength of the roster
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: compared to the Super Bowl roster?
• 24:44
  Speaker 4: I mean.
• 24:45
  Speaker 9: the Superbowl roster was almost completely kept intact.
• 24:48
  Speaker 4: There was only a few guys. We know they only
• 24:50
  Speaker 4: lost five guys in free agency.
• 24:51
  Speaker 9: So it was going to be tough for these draft
• 24:54
  Speaker 9: picks to make this football team with how many guys
• 24:57
  Speaker 9: were coming back. This is still, this is still a
• 24:59
  Speaker 9: top two, top three roster in the NFL. And you
• 25:03
  Speaker 9: just didn't see a lot of these guys in the preseason.
• 25:05
  Speaker 9: So fans of course are like, well, I'm not sure
• 25:08
  Speaker 9: how to feel. Well, those guys will be back in
• 25:10
  Speaker 9: action on September 9th. You're going to get to see
• 25:12
  Speaker 9: your Leonard Williams is and, devin witherspoons and jackson smith
• 25:16
  Speaker 9: and jigbas of the world so this is still i
• 25:19
  Speaker 9: mean the fact that they only have that many newcomers
• 25:22
  Speaker 9: on the roster tells you all you need to know
• 25:24
  Speaker 9: about the strength of this roster returning from last year's
• 25:27
  Speaker 9: team that by the way was mostly a very young
• 25:29
  Speaker 9: roster that a lot of guys are still coming into
• 25:32
  Speaker 9: their prime.
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: Finally uh our friends down in southern california in los
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: angeles california to be specific aaron donald is officially back
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: they added him they added Miles Garrett, then of course
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: they had the two corners in McDuffie and Jalen Watson.
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: Anything short of 17-0 in a Super Bowl is a
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: disappointment for them, right?
• 25:52
  Speaker 9: You know, I think they've put themselves in a position
• 25:56
  Speaker 9: where they don't win 15 regular season games and don't
• 26:00
  Speaker 9: win the Super Bowl. That is a disappointment with what
• 26:03
  Speaker 9: they've done. I mean, they went out and got the
• 26:04
  Speaker 9: best defensive player in the world, and then they brought
• 26:07
  Speaker 9: the best defensive player in the world out of retirement.
• 26:09
  Speaker 4: I mean, that's that right there.
• 26:11
  Speaker 10: But, you know, I know some fans are going.
• 26:14
  Speaker 9: To be like, I don't know if Nicky Manwari should
• 26:15
  Speaker 9: have tweeted what he did yesterday, but like, like, Hey,
• 26:18
  Speaker 9: all that for us, like the Seahawks are off. I mean,
• 26:21
  Speaker 9: the Seahawks are, I mean, this is going to be spicy.
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: It really is going to.
• 26:25
  Speaker 4: Be those two teams in San Francisco. Of course you
• 26:28
  Speaker 4: can't count them out.
• 26:29
  Speaker 9: I mean, I, I think that they are probably, they
• 26:32
  Speaker 9: are probably the distant third in this division at this point,
• 26:37
  Speaker 9: in my opinion, but Kyle Shanahan may have something to
• 26:40
  Speaker 9: say about that, but I think that those two teams
• 26:42
  Speaker 9: at the top, man, that, that is going to be
• 26:44
  Speaker 9: an incredible battle to see who can get the bragging
• 26:48
  Speaker 9: rights at the top of that division and try to get.
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: Home field advantage. I got one more for you.
• 26:52
  Speaker 5: I forgot.
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: I just want to get just touch, just a quick
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: thought on Jalen Milrow and his final preseason game.
• 26:57
  Speaker 9: I thought he looked really good. That was the best
• 26:59
  Speaker 9: he's played in the preseason game. I thought he played
• 27:02
  Speaker 9: a lot more decisive. There were a few times that he,
• 27:06
  Speaker 9: held onto the ball too long or, you know, he
• 27:08
  Speaker 9: made a couple of throws that slipped out of his hand,
• 27:10
  Speaker 9: but I mean, he, he was throwing downfield. He was
• 27:12
  Speaker 9: being aggressive. He ran the ball a few times effectively,
• 27:16
  Speaker 9: but he didn't do it. Didn't force the issue with
• 27:18
  Speaker 9: that regard. I just thought he played with much greater
• 27:22
  Speaker 9: confidence and there was an urgency to him that I
• 27:24
  Speaker 9: think he needed to display a little.
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: Bit in that game.
• 27:27
  Speaker 9: And that's another reason why he is still on the
• 27:30
  Speaker 9: 53 man roster. I don't think he was in trouble regardless, but, uh,
• 27:34
  Speaker 9: having a good performance like that certainly helped.
• 27:37
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• 27:54
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  Speaker 8: Sounds good, Ian.
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• 29:04
  Speaker 1: We have a couple of roster moves. We'll just real quick.
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: Cooper Criswell reinstated from the 60-day injured list. Nick Davilia
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: is on the injured list. Apparently he has a joint sprain.
• 29:16
  Speaker 8: Weird.
• 29:17
  Speaker 5: Yeah, he pitched yesterday.
• 29:21
  Speaker 3: Hmm.
• 29:21
  Speaker 8: Hmm. Hmm.
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: Hmm. Cold Emerson goes to the 60-day injured list. He
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: was out for the year. We already knew that, so
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: those moves were made, and they're bringing up a top prospect.
• 29:31
  Speaker 1: We'll talk about that with Chris coming up tomorrow, officially.
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: I'm sure he's already there, but when the roster expands tomorrow. Montez, baby.
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: Let's go. What do you think?
• 29:43
  Speaker 5: I think it's very similar to the Kate Anderson situation,
• 29:46
  Speaker 5: which I forget which series they lost right before he
• 29:48
  Speaker 5: came up.
• 29:49
  Speaker 1: Don't look at the scoreboard.
• 29:51
  Speaker 5: Don't look here.
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: Don't look at.
• 29:52
  Speaker 5: This bright, shiny new toy that you get to watch.
• 29:56
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: Here's the thing.
• 30:02
  Speaker 6: Yes.
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: But I think it's hard, too. I mean, Kate Anderson's
• 30:08
  Speaker 1: handled it perfectly. He's been great. He's been really good.
• 30:11
  Speaker 8: For sure.
• 30:12
  Speaker 1: But you're bringing these kids up in a situation in
• 30:16
  Speaker 1: which you're playing for your playoff lives every day. It's
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: a lot. It's a lot different than Arkansas or Tacoma.
• 30:22
  Speaker 2: Seems.
• 30:24
  Speaker 1: Desperate or maybe what you said, a distraction. It's one
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: or the other.
• 30:27
  Speaker 5: I think it's the latter.
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: A distraction.
• 30:29
  Speaker 5: Because if there's any desperation within that club, they're not
• 30:32
  Speaker 5: showing it on the field, I'll tell you that.
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: No, they're not. No, they are not. Real quick, we're
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: going to switch to baseball. We'll get into some other
• 30:40
  Speaker 1: things in the 2 o'clock hour. Hugh may or may
• 30:42
  Speaker 1: not join us in the 2 o'clock hour for a
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: little hardcore real quick. It depends. I've got a couple
• 30:46
  Speaker 1: things going on, but he's on a... He's on a
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: game-time decision basis, is Millen, at 2 o'clock. So we
• 30:53
  Speaker 1: may get to him. Just a real quick riff on
• 30:56
  Speaker 1: college football for a second. I mentioned this at the
• 30:59
  Speaker 1: start of the show. Week Zero is fun.
• 31:01
  Speaker 10: It's weird.
• 31:02
  Speaker 1: My wife is sitting there going, well, these games matter?
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: Why do they call it Week Zero? I don't know.
• 31:07
  Speaker 1: If you're trying to figure out what makes sense in
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: college football, don't. It'll hurt your brain. But you know
• 31:14
  Speaker 1: what I think? I did find myself with a couple
• 31:17
  Speaker 1: overriding thoughts.
• 31:18
  Speaker 3: One.
• 31:19
  Speaker 1: watching the game in Virginia within Virginia and NC state,
• 31:23
  Speaker 1: it felt like college football, like in all the, and
• 31:26
  Speaker 1: what I mean by that, like, Oh, of course it did. No, no,
• 31:28
  Speaker 1: everything going on in the world right now with, with
• 31:30
  Speaker 1: that sport. And if, listen, it's the second most important
• 31:37
  Speaker 1: sport in our country behind the NFL in terms of ratings, revenue,
• 31:40
  Speaker 1: all those things. It's number two. I know we've got
• 31:43
  Speaker 1: the big, the so-called big four in terms of pro
• 31:45
  Speaker 1: sports and But if you just look at the numbers,
• 31:47
  Speaker 1: because the ratings are all cumulative, like if you just
• 31:50
  Speaker 1: add up college football ratings for a weekend, they're massive.
• 31:54
  Speaker 1: It's massive. It's a huge deal. And we've all gone
• 31:56
  Speaker 1: through this weird off-season with college football. And it's a
• 31:59
  Speaker 1: sport that I think if you're listening to this show,
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: if you're listening to this station, and especially, honestly, from
• 32:04
  Speaker 1: noon until 7, Softie loves college football. I love college football.
• 32:07
  Speaker 1: Yell and scream at each other. Cougs, Huskies, all that stuff.
• 32:09
  Speaker 1: I hate the Ducks. All those things. But if you listen, like,
• 32:13
  Speaker 1: you're probably a college football fan, too. Yeah. But it's
• 32:15
  Speaker 1: also been hard to be a college football fan. It's
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: been really hard because there's been so much, first of all,
• 32:22
  Speaker 1: and I think this is a deal. I think this
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: is something that matters, and we'll probably have Mandel on
• 32:26
  Speaker 1: on Wednesday. It's hard because, like, we're going to do
• 32:29
  Speaker 1: the first episode tomorrow with Alex and MK for the kooks,
• 32:32
  Speaker 1: talking kooks. It's hard because you don't know who the
• 32:37
  Speaker 1: hell's on your team anymore. Like, keeping track of it
• 32:40
  Speaker 1: is hard. You can't develop guys. They come and go.
• 32:44
  Speaker 1: But just the eye test, Virginia was a really cool atmosphere.
• 32:47
  Speaker 1: I think they had the largest student section they've ever had,
• 32:50
  Speaker 1: which was awesome. Place was packed, which is weird because
• 32:55
  Speaker 1: that game wasn't originally on the schedule to be played there. Remember,
• 32:57
  Speaker 1: it was supposed to be played in Brazil. And here's
• 33:00
  Speaker 1: the overriding thing. The most experienced Division I team in
• 33:04
  Speaker 1: terms of college snaps in the country is Virginia, and
• 33:06
  Speaker 1: they looked like it, and they just beat the doors
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: off of NC State. I mean, men playing against boys.
• 33:14
  Speaker 1: That's what that was. There is going to be a
• 33:17
  Speaker 1: lot of talk about the Apple Cup, and we'll get
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: to that later in the week. The thing with the
• 33:20
  Speaker 1: Apple Cup, and one of the reasons there's some frustration
• 33:23
  Speaker 1: on Wazoo's part is, sure, it's hard to develop guys. Well,
• 33:28
  Speaker 1: it's hard to compete with the money and stuff. It
• 33:30
  Speaker 1: just is. I mean, it was hard to compete with
• 33:31
  Speaker 1: Washington on their level anyway before. I mean, that's just
• 33:35
  Speaker 1: the reality of it. I mean, I know Cougar fans
• 33:37
  Speaker 1: get upset and Husky fans like to take jabs. That's fine.
• 33:39
  Speaker 1: But that's the reality. That's what it was. The problem
• 33:42
  Speaker 1: now is that you're going to have these teams that
• 33:44
  Speaker 1: are younger in the group of six and the non... Hell, honestly,
• 33:48
  Speaker 1: even in conferences not named Big Ten SEC, you're going
• 33:51
  Speaker 1: to have younger teams. That's hard to compete with. We
• 33:54
  Speaker 1: saw that on Saturday. Because your older players are going
• 33:57
  Speaker 1: to get scooped up and poached by other teams. It's not...
• 34:01
  Speaker 1: It's never been a level playing field. But before it
• 34:04
  Speaker 1: was a competitive playing field. That's the thing. Never was level... Like,
• 34:11
  Speaker 1: Washington's got more money than Washington State. Ohio State has
• 34:15
  Speaker 1: more money than Washington. We can just go on. You know,
• 34:18
  Speaker 1: there's always a guy, like the toughest guy in the block,
• 34:20
  Speaker 1: there's probably someone that can beat him up. That's always
• 34:22
  Speaker 1: the case. Well, in the case of college football, the
• 34:27
  Speaker 1: haves and the have-nots, the separation is greater. Thinking that
• 34:31
  Speaker 1: you're going to see an Appalachian State knock off a Michigan.
• 34:34
  Speaker 1: It's not going to happen. I mean, it just... And
• 34:38
  Speaker 1: then the hard thing is knowing who's on your team
• 34:40
  Speaker 1: and everything else. One thing is still certain, though. Stanford's
• 34:44
  Speaker 1: a joke. That's still 100% certain.
• 34:48
  Speaker 5: You can always count on that.
• 34:50
  Speaker 1: I mean, I know you're great and you win whatever
• 34:53
  Speaker 1: President's Cup or whatever the hell it is every year,
• 34:54
  Speaker 1: the All-Sports Trophy. I know that's a big deal for
• 34:57
  Speaker 1: you guys because you have more sports programs than anybody
• 34:59
  Speaker 1: else in the country. Like, literally, you have everything. And
• 35:03
  Speaker 1: you're good at everything except for the sports that matter,
• 35:06
  Speaker 1: football and men's basketball. And they had an announced crowd
• 35:13
  Speaker 1: of 23,000 in a 51,000 seat building on Saturday. It
• 35:20
  Speaker 1: was closer to 2,300 than 23,000. That's a power four
• 35:24
  Speaker 1: program in name only. In name only. Because that's an embarrassment.
• 35:32
  Speaker 1: That's an absolute embarrassment. USC didn't have people there, but Whatever.
• 35:37
  Speaker 1: I mean, USC had their own issues. It was hot.
• 35:40
  Speaker 3: Whatever.
• 35:42
  Speaker 1: They'll be fine. When they play a 5 o'clock game
• 35:44
  Speaker 1: in October, it'll be packed. But Stanford's a joke. The
• 35:48
  Speaker 1: only good thing about Stanford, Davida Pritchard got the win.
• 35:51
  Speaker 1: His first win as a head coach. That's cool. He's
• 35:52
  Speaker 1: a local kid. He's from Clover Park here in our area.
• 35:55
  Speaker 1: So good for him. Davida, Jack Thompson's nephew. But outside
• 35:58
  Speaker 1: of that, I want to bang my head against the wall.
• 36:02
  Speaker 1: It's like we want to talk about power. Power conference
• 36:04
  Speaker 1: is all we want. It's not a power school. Just isn't.
• 36:07
  Speaker 1: It is in terms of academics. It is in terms
• 36:09
  Speaker 1: of women's basketball, men's and women's volleyball. We go through
• 36:13
  Speaker 1: the list.
• 36:14
  Speaker 5: We used to care about that stuff, but we don't anymore.
• 36:16
  Speaker 1: Not anymore.
• 36:17
  Speaker 3: All right.
• 36:18
  Speaker 1: We've put it off long enough. The boys are standing by.
• 36:23
  Speaker 1: We're going to mollywop. After the Mariners got swept by
• 36:26
  Speaker 1: the Toronto Blue Jays from Toronto, Ontario, Canada, A. Swept
• 36:31
  Speaker 1: out of Canada. Swept all the way down to Boston.
• 36:34
  Speaker 1: What do the boys have to say? They're next.
• 36:39
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• 36:55
  Speaker 1: Trevon Diggs cut. He'll re-sign with the practice squad. We
• 36:58
  Speaker 1: should have that in the next hour, what they're doing
• 37:00
  Speaker 1: practice squad-wise, 1 o'clock transactions. Sounders drew with Chicago over
• 37:04
  Speaker 1: the weekend. New guy had two goals. How do you
• 37:05
  Speaker 1: say his name?
• 37:07
  Speaker 5: Dejan Jovalic.
• 37:08
  Speaker 1: Two goals. That's pretty good. Nice debut. That works. Aaron
• 37:11
  Speaker 1: Donald officially returned to the Rams. Signed a one-year deal.
• 37:14
  Speaker 1: Messi retiring from the Argentina national team in soccer. Cowboys releasing.
• 37:19
  Speaker 1: This just came across. Releasing quarterback Joe Milton. I thought
• 37:23
  Speaker 1: he was the number two, but when they played here,
• 37:27
  Speaker 1: Sam Howell was taking snaps ahead of him. Sam Howell.
• 37:31
  Speaker 5: Sam Howell.
• 37:33
  Speaker 1: Listen, any starting quarterback goes down for any good team.
• 37:36
  Speaker 1: you're going to be taking a little bit of a
• 37:38
  Speaker 1: step back. I'll just ask you this. Donald goes down,
• 37:42
  Speaker 1: do you feel better with Drew Locke? Or if Doc
• 37:44
  Speaker 1: goes down, do you feel better with Sam Howell?
• 37:46
  Speaker 5: I'll take Drew Locke.
• 37:46
  Speaker 1: I think so. For sure. I might take Jalen Milrow
• 37:49
  Speaker 1: over Sam Howell.
• 37:50
  Speaker 5: I think I would too, especially after Saturday.
• 37:52
  Speaker 1: Seems a risky move, but Milton's kind of a knucklehead,
• 37:54
  Speaker 1: so there you go. All right, here we go. Molly
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• 38:27
  Speaker 1: What you've been waiting for as a Mariner fan probably
• 38:29
  Speaker 1: since the end of the game yesterday. Hell, you've probably
• 38:32
  Speaker 1: been waiting for this since Saturday, maybe even Friday. I
• 38:35
  Speaker 1: know that. We did cheat on Nathan a little bit.
• 38:38
  Speaker 1: We had a Chris Crawford sighting on Friday on the
• 38:40
  Speaker 1: radio show. To preview, Chris, I'm checking my notes here.
• 38:44
  Speaker 1: Did we not talk about the importance of this three-game series?
• 38:47
  Speaker 1: Did we not do that on Friday, how important these
• 38:49
  Speaker 1: three games were? Did I miss that? I.
• 38:55
  Speaker 10: Yeah.
• 38:56
  Speaker 1: Yeah, we sure did, buddy. make a note of that.
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• 39:32
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  Speaker 1: of your stuff. All right, boys, let's get to it.
• 39:45
  Speaker 1: It was a lost weekend. I'll joke an aside. As
• 39:48
  Speaker 1: we did talk about it on Friday, it was like, okay.
• 39:50
  Speaker 1: And I think we kind of agreed, too, Chris. Someone's
• 39:54
  Speaker 1: going to win two of three. No one's going to sweep,
• 39:56
  Speaker 1: and really nothing will have changed that much dramatically. Whoa,
• 40:00
  Speaker 1: were we wrong. So we had our say. We'll get
• 40:03
  Speaker 1: back to that in a second. Nathan Bishop, away you go.
• 40:09
  Speaker 8: Well, I've been trying to think about how to talk
• 40:13
  Speaker 8: about this team after this weekend. You know what's amazing, guys?
• 40:16
  Speaker 8: This team is 11-15 in August. Does that sound disappointing?
• 40:19
  Speaker 8: I guess it's kind of disappointing. 11-15 is not great.
• 40:22
  Speaker 8: It's pretty freaking good when you've been outscored 160-87 for
• 40:25
  Speaker 8: the month. And they're 11-15 thanks to, I think, three
• 40:31
  Speaker 8: walk-off wins in this month. In the games they've lost
• 40:34
  Speaker 8: in August, they've been outscored 125-27.
• 40:35
  Speaker 3: 27 runs in.
• 40:41
  Speaker 8: In 15 losses. I think this past weekend was it
• 40:44
  Speaker 8: for me. I love being able to put stuff on
• 40:46
  Speaker 8: tape that you guys can run back when I'm wrong
• 40:48
  Speaker 8: and just make me look really stupid, but let's just
• 40:50
  Speaker 8: do it right now. This team is fricking cooked that
• 40:54
  Speaker 8: loss yesterday. I know that there's some very, very stern
• 40:59
  Speaker 8: competition already in the clubhouse. I think that was the
• 41:02
  Speaker 8: low point of the season yesterday, getting absolutely manhandled by
• 41:05
  Speaker 8: 42 year old Max Scherzer, who has been crap all
• 41:09
  Speaker 8: year long, in a one hit, seven nothing loss against
• 41:14
  Speaker 8: a really not very good Blue Jays team to end
• 41:18
  Speaker 8: the sweep when you know your season is on the line,
• 41:21
  Speaker 8: putting you in a situation where you have to go
• 41:22
  Speaker 8: 17 and eight down the stretch just to get to 500.
• 41:26
  Speaker 8: This team is done, man. Their left side of their
• 41:29
  Speaker 8: infield is Brock Rodden and the ghost of JP Crawford.
• 41:33
  Speaker 8: There's broken parts all over the place. The starting rotation
• 41:36
  Speaker 8: is like spewing oil and catching flame everywhere it goes.
• 41:40
  Speaker 8: I think Bryce Miller is finding out a new role
• 41:42
  Speaker 8: that he gets every four hours or so right now.
• 41:44
  Speaker 8: He's a reliever. He's a starter. He's an opener. Now
• 41:46
  Speaker 8: he's a starter again. I mean, this is it. And
• 41:50
  Speaker 8: I watched my why last night. I'm sure everybody else did, too,
• 41:53
  Speaker 8: because if you aren't doing it, why or why? Why
• 41:55
  Speaker 8: even bother pretending to be a fan of this team
• 41:56
  Speaker 8: if you're not watching my why every single day? But
• 41:59
  Speaker 8: Chris is right. Nothing should be off the table. after
• 42:03
  Speaker 8: the way the season has gone, assuming that it doesn't
• 42:05
  Speaker 8: turn around. And I know we'll have more time to
• 42:06
  Speaker 8: talk about it, but this is just a comprehensive organization-wide
• 42:12
  Speaker 8: failure from top to bottom since George Springer hit that
• 42:16
  Speaker 8: three-run home run in Game 7 of the ALCS last year.
• 42:18
  Speaker 8: Everything from that point to right now is a cascading
• 42:22
  Speaker 8: series of failures that everyone should bear responsibility for.
• 42:26
  Speaker 1: I was thinking last night, same thing, because I forgot
• 42:31
  Speaker 1: to hit the like yesterday, though. My apologies for my why.
• 42:34
  Speaker 1: But I thought it was the most aptly named thing
• 42:38
  Speaker 1: because I thought yesterday, my, oh, why? Why? Why? Like, why, Chris? Like, why?
• 42:45
  Speaker 1: Explain the why for me.
• 42:51
  Speaker 7: You know, you know, you had a pretty terrible Seattle
• 42:55
  Speaker 7: sports weekend when the highlight is jail in Mill Road.
• 42:58
  Speaker 7: Like if that's the best thing you have to talk
• 43:00
  Speaker 7: about for three days. And you know, what's funny is
• 43:03
  Speaker 7: Nathan's right that they probably are cooked, but it reminds
• 43:06
  Speaker 7: me of my grandpa liked well done steak. And he
• 43:09
  Speaker 7: used to go to this place in Shelton and they
• 43:12
  Speaker 7: hated serving him well done steak. And then we call it,
• 43:15
  Speaker 7: they would serve him their beef jerky. And he would say,
• 43:17
  Speaker 7: here's your beef jerky, Ray. If the Mariners even make
• 43:20
  Speaker 7: the post season, they're the piece of crap steak that
• 43:23
  Speaker 7: nobody wants to eat. And this still isn't any fun.
• 43:25
  Speaker 7: This is just.
• 43:27
  Speaker 1: An absolute failure.
• 43:29
  Speaker 7: It's a failure of a season, even if a miracle
• 43:32
  Speaker 7: happens over these next 25 games and they make the
• 43:35
  Speaker 7: postseason and they won't do anything in the postseason. I
• 43:37
  Speaker 7: hate to be Randy Quaid in Major League Two, but
• 43:40
  Speaker 7: even if they do go to the postseason, what in
• 43:43
  Speaker 7: the hell tells you that this team can do anything
• 43:46
  Speaker 7: once they get there? Are you kidding me? And, you know,
• 43:50
  Speaker 7: I've talked about this a lot, but I made the
• 43:53
  Speaker 7: demands about them going to the World Series this year.
• 43:55
  Speaker 7: And ha ha, Chris Crawford, ha ha, you stupid idiot.
• 43:59
  Speaker 7: Number one, correct.
• 44:00
  Speaker 1: Stupid idiot.
• 44:00
  Speaker 7: But number two, my demands were not based on me
• 44:04
  Speaker 7: loving this baseball team and thinking that the roster was perfect.
• 44:07
  Speaker 7: My demand was based on you were eight outs away
• 44:10
  Speaker 7: from the World Series. You decided to run it back.
• 44:13
  Speaker 7: You made changes on the margins. So why shouldn't I
• 44:17
  Speaker 7: demand you go to the World Series? Why shouldn't I
• 44:20
  Speaker 7: demand that you take that next step? If you thought
• 44:22
  Speaker 7: it was good enough, why the hell shouldn't I think
• 44:25
  Speaker 7: it's good enough? And it's nowhere close to good enough.
• 44:28
  Speaker 7: And you know what? I'll just be honest with you.
• 44:30
  Speaker 7: Sunday was the first time in a long time that
• 44:32
  Speaker 7: I was embarrassed to be a Seattle Mariner fan.
• 44:35
  Speaker 3: Wow.
• 44:36
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  Speaker 1: it out. They're the Super Bowl champions. Last I checked.
• 44:48
  Speaker 1: That's until Aaron Donald becomes Aaron Donald again.
• 44:51
  Speaker 5: Oh, gosh.
• 44:53
  Speaker 1: Let's– which, you know, is an interesting thing now that
• 44:56
  Speaker 1: I think of it. So if you're the L.A. Rams,
• 45:01
  Speaker 1: you were one Zach Charbonnet picking up the ball away
• 45:06
  Speaker 1: from probably– from going to– more than likely going to
• 45:10
  Speaker 1: the Super Bowl. I mean, just with home field advantage
• 45:11
  Speaker 1: and everything else, right? You're that close. And you really
• 45:15
  Speaker 1: know that it's probably a 50-50 split between you and
• 45:20
  Speaker 1: the team that's in your division, Seattle.
• 45:23
  Speaker 11: Sure.
• 45:24
  Speaker 1: You could have run it back and probably been just
• 45:26
  Speaker 1: as capable of beating them as you would have been before.
• 45:29
  Speaker 1: You didn't. You went out and got Trent McDuffie. You
• 45:31
  Speaker 1: got Jalen Watson. You convinced Aaron Donald to come out. Oh,
• 45:34
  Speaker 1: and some guy named Miles Garrett. Like, you upped the ante. So, Chris,
• 45:36
  Speaker 1: I go back to what you just said. Does this...
• 45:40
  Speaker 1: this year in which, as Nathan mentioned, they're going to
• 45:42
  Speaker 1: be at best 12 and 15 in the month of August, right?
• 45:46
  Speaker 1: At best if they win today, but right now sitting
• 45:49
  Speaker 1: at 11, 15, they've had one winning month. That was
• 45:51
  Speaker 1: a month of May. And that was like a two game,
• 45:53
  Speaker 1: they're at 15 and 13 or something like that. Let's
• 45:56
  Speaker 1: just go back. Does this all stem from the off season, Chris?
• 46:01
  Speaker 7: A large part of it does, you know, and there
• 46:04
  Speaker 7: are things that we couldn't have predicted, right? Like we
• 46:07
  Speaker 7: couldn't have predicted that, Cal Raleigh was going to have
• 46:10
  Speaker 7: his worst season by a long shot. We've talked about
• 46:14
  Speaker 7: it a bunch, but not just a disappointing season compared
• 46:16
  Speaker 7: to 2025, but a disappointing season compared to with other
• 46:20
  Speaker 7: seasons as well. Julio Rodriguez has been a very average
• 46:24
  Speaker 7: player at best. Josh Naylor has provided zero power whatsoever.
• 46:28
  Speaker 7: I don't think you could have predicted all of that stuff,
• 46:32
  Speaker 7: but you can say that this should have influenced them
• 46:35
  Speaker 7: to do more. It should have influenced more motivation to be, man,
• 46:40
  Speaker 7: let's do what it takes to make sure that we
• 46:43
  Speaker 7: actually accomplish that thing, that we are the only freaking
• 46:46
  Speaker 7: baseball team has never done in Major League Baseball. We
• 46:49
  Speaker 7: are the only team that hasn't done it. We were
• 46:52
  Speaker 7: so close last year. Let's make the necessary additions to
• 46:57
  Speaker 7: do more. And two, you can't guarantee it, but to
• 46:59
  Speaker 7: give us this best opportunity to finally do this thing, Well, no.
• 47:04
  Speaker 7: And unfortunately, it's also a lot easier to just rest
• 47:10
  Speaker 7: when you have the season that they did to say,
• 47:12
  Speaker 7: you know what? These are all young players. They're all
• 47:14
  Speaker 7: going to get better. We don't need to make those
• 47:17
  Speaker 7: necessary moves. So you can say it's a little bit
• 47:19
  Speaker 7: Captain Hindsight if you want, but it doesn't take that
• 47:23
  Speaker 7: much foresight to see that it would have been better
• 47:27
  Speaker 7: to make better auditions, to stabilize this bullpen, to make
• 47:32
  Speaker 7: the moves necessary to put them in that better position.
• 47:36
  Speaker 3: And you know what?
• 47:37
  Speaker 8: Can I name any of them?
• 47:38
  Speaker 12: Nope.
• 47:38
  Speaker 7: But thank God I'm not the president of baseball operations
• 47:41
  Speaker 7: or the general manager. They are, and they should have
• 47:44
  Speaker 7: made those moves. It's unfortunate that some of the stuff
• 47:48
  Speaker 7: I talked about happened, but they weren't prepared for those situations.
• 47:52
  Speaker 7: You know, they weren't prepared for, to put themselves into
• 47:56
  Speaker 7: a position to be ready to swoop when those things
• 47:59
  Speaker 7: started to happen, and they should have acted sooner. Kate
• 48:02
  Speaker 7: Anderson should have been here sooner. There should have been
• 48:05
  Speaker 7: other moves made in the offseason and in April and
• 48:08
  Speaker 7: in May and in June to right this ship too
• 48:12
  Speaker 7: little too late. Yeah, the offseason is a big portion
• 48:16
  Speaker 7: of it. You can point to all the things that
• 48:17
  Speaker 7: went wrong that they can't control, but they didn't put
• 48:20
  Speaker 7: themselves into enough control for it to matter.
• 48:25
  Speaker 8: I agree with everything that Chris just said. My perspective
• 48:28
  Speaker 8: on this kind of stuff is if the way that
• 48:31
  Speaker 8: the Mariners had acted this for the past 12 months,
• 48:33
  Speaker 8: let's say 12 months, whenever the ALCS ended, since the
• 48:36
  Speaker 8: ALCS ended until now, if the way the Mariners had
• 48:39
  Speaker 8: comported themselves and the way that they had approached the
• 48:42
  Speaker 8: season and the off season and during the season and
• 48:45
  Speaker 8: all of this stuff had felt like a one-off, I'd
• 48:48
  Speaker 8: probably feel a lot more grace towards the organization about
• 48:51
  Speaker 8: the kind of outcomes that they're experiencing now. They're doing
• 48:54
  Speaker 8: the exact same thing that they've been doing every offseason
• 48:57
  Speaker 8: and every single time this decade. I mean, this is
• 49:01
  Speaker 8: a team that doesn't do good offseasons. The last time
• 49:04
  Speaker 8: they made the playoffs before this previous season was 2022,
• 49:07
  Speaker 8: and we ended up with Tommy LaStella at DH on
• 49:10
  Speaker 8: opening day. Every single offseason, what they're doing, what they're
• 49:14
  Speaker 8: attempting to do is not to leverage any sort of
• 49:17
  Speaker 8: opportunity to newfound heights defensively. looking to hedge against worst
• 49:22
  Speaker 8: case scenarios, fill in at the margins, like Chris said,
• 49:25
  Speaker 8: and assume that they're smarter and better at player development
• 49:28
  Speaker 8: and pitching development, that it will overcome the gap there.
• 49:30
  Speaker 8: And that's how they've been behaving for six, seven years now.
• 49:35
  Speaker 8: And what you're seeing this year is the failure of
• 49:38
  Speaker 8: that model when you don't hit on your development team
• 49:41
  Speaker 8: because what you're seeing is there was no plan here
• 49:44
  Speaker 8: for j everybody chris crawford has been talking about jp
• 49:48
  Speaker 8: crawford being terrible at defense for at least three years
• 49:50
  Speaker 8: this is a known thing we all knew that he
• 49:53
  Speaker 8: was at the end of his rope what was the
• 49:55
  Speaker 8: plan when it became clear within i don't know a
• 49:57
  Speaker 8: week and he could barely throw the ball to first
• 49:59
  Speaker 8: base There was no backup plan. There was no contingency.
• 50:02
  Speaker 8: And now as a result, you've rushed your star prospect
• 50:05
  Speaker 8: to the major leagues who you just extended for $ 95 million.
• 50:08
  Speaker 8: And guess what? You completely screwed up his first year
• 50:11
  Speaker 8: of development. His entire first season is a loss now.
• 50:15
  Speaker 3: Completely.
• 50:16
  Speaker 8: It's all being compounded because this team, to Chris's point,
• 50:20
  Speaker 8: will not take risk to be great. They are so
• 50:24
  Speaker 8: scared of failing if they actually try that they would
• 50:28
  Speaker 8: rather hedge And I know this because of their actions
• 50:32
  Speaker 8: and because they told you to your face that that's
• 50:36
  Speaker 8: what they were trying to do. So believe them when
• 50:39
  Speaker 8: they tell you who they are. And they keep showing
• 50:41
  Speaker 8: us time and time again. And frankly, I know this
• 50:44
  Speaker 8: is a little long-winded. I'm sorry. If this team makes
• 50:46
  Speaker 8: the playoffs, I know this is terrible. I'm going to
• 50:49
  Speaker 8: be upset. I don't want the people involved in this
• 50:52
  Speaker 8: mess to have any sort of validation. There should be
• 50:55
  Speaker 8: no escape hatch for this. They need to sit in
• 50:58
  Speaker 8: this and wallow in it. And that's the only way
• 51:01
  Speaker 8: I don't think they can change because I think they
• 51:03
  Speaker 8: think they're too smart. And I think that they just
• 51:05
  Speaker 8: think that the coin flips went against them. Prove me wrong,
• 51:08
  Speaker 8: fail here and change and make this organization.
• 51:12
  Speaker 3: Great.
• 51:12
  Speaker 8: That is my challenge to them. I am almost positive.
• 51:14
  Speaker 8: It will not do that.
• 51:15
  Speaker 1: Well, I think it, well, you bring up Nathan Bishop,
• 51:17
  Speaker 1: Chris Crawford, uh, uh, my lot money brought to by
• 51:19
  Speaker 1: simply Seattle. Chris, he brings up that point. It's been
• 51:22
  Speaker 1: a topic in sports radio. You filled in for me
• 51:24
  Speaker 1: a few times. I'm sure you've seen texts as well.
• 51:25
  Speaker 1: There's people, there's people that are like, I just don't
• 51:28
  Speaker 1: even want them to make it anymore. Uh, I think
• 51:30
  Speaker 1: because people want change. I think it's at that point.
• 51:35
  Speaker 1: This is, to me, it's one of the strangest seasons
• 51:39
  Speaker 1: in sports for a team that I've been around, covered,
• 51:41
  Speaker 1: what have you, since I started doing this 30 years
• 51:44
  Speaker 1: ago when I was in Salt Lake. I've never seen
• 51:47
  Speaker 1: a team that has so completely turned off its fan base,
• 51:53
  Speaker 1: and yet they still have. stuff in front of them.
• 51:56
  Speaker 1: They still could get there. Now, you know, Nathan, I mean,
• 52:00
  Speaker 1: 25 games left to finish above 500, which hell, maybe
• 52:03
  Speaker 1: that's not even needed to win the AL West, but
• 52:05
  Speaker 1: to finish above 500, they'd have to go 18 and seven,
• 52:08
  Speaker 1: 11 games over 500. That's how deep in the depths
• 52:13
  Speaker 1: they are. They're nine under 500 right now. Guy in
• 52:15
  Speaker 1: the major league network said yesterday I was watching was like, well,
• 52:17
  Speaker 1: nine games under there. There's just, you can't battle back
• 52:20
  Speaker 1: from that. The problem is in the, in this year's
• 52:22
  Speaker 1: American league, you can't, I don't even know how people
• 52:27
  Speaker 1: here would even handle it because, again, Chris, you've seen it.
• 52:31
  Speaker 1: You hear it on MyOI with feedback as well. I
• 52:34
  Speaker 1: don't know what the fan base is. I've never seen
• 52:38
  Speaker 1: a fan base, Chris, I'll let you explain. I've never
• 52:40
  Speaker 1: seen a fan base so turned off by a team
• 52:42
  Speaker 1: that they're a fan of than this one, this year,
• 52:45
  Speaker 1: this particular year.
• 52:47
  Speaker 7: I get the feeling. The positive thing to say is.
• 52:51
  Speaker 7: That they believe that taking a step back might lead
• 52:54
  Speaker 7: to steps forward, that if by this all going wrong,
• 52:58
  Speaker 7: then you make the managerial change, maybe even make bigger
• 53:01
  Speaker 7: changes than that.
• 53:03
  Speaker 8: And you talk.
• 53:05
  Speaker 7: About, sorry, I'm getting distracted here by a phone person
• 53:10
  Speaker 7: that will not leave me alone. I'm seeing it though.
• 53:15
  Speaker 7: And I think some of this might have to do
• 53:17
  Speaker 7: with We're pretty pumped up for the other team playing
• 53:20
  Speaker 7: in Seattle right now.
• 53:21
  Speaker 6: Sure.
• 53:21
  Speaker 7: That the Seahawks football stuff is something that we're all
• 53:24
  Speaker 7: real interested in. But I think there are people who
• 53:28
  Speaker 7: have just had a fricking enough man who have just
• 53:31
  Speaker 7: had enough of complacency and platitudes and selling us on
• 53:38
  Speaker 7: the farm system and all that stuff that it only
• 53:41
  Speaker 7: can take you so far. It can only keep a
• 53:44
  Speaker 7: fan happy for so long because, And you watch this
• 53:48
  Speaker 7: team play. And the other thing is, man, watching this
• 53:51
  Speaker 7: team is just it's a suckless joy.
• 53:53
  Speaker 8: There's no life.
• 53:55
  Speaker 1: There's no life.
• 53:55
  Speaker 8: What's the term again?
• 53:56
  Speaker 1: I got to write this one. It's suckless joy.
• 53:58
  Speaker 8: It's a joyless suck factory.
• 54:00
  Speaker 1: And I said it wrong myself. Joyless suck factory.
• 54:04
  Speaker 8: And it's just I'm not wrong.
• 54:06
  Speaker 7: I think I watched this team play and I talked
• 54:09
  Speaker 7: to others like they've completely lost my grandma. My grandma
• 54:12
  Speaker 7: has no desire to watch them. And when you've lost grandma,
• 54:16
  Speaker 7: who's been watching this team since Jeff Manto was traded
• 54:19
  Speaker 7: for Archimedes Pozo. And you watch this team just look
• 54:23
  Speaker 7: miserable out there. And she notices, she doesn't know where
• 54:26
  Speaker 7: the hell she is half the time, but she knows
• 54:29
  Speaker 7: that the Seattle Mariner team is not fun to watch.
• 54:33
  Speaker 7: I think people are tired of it. I think people
• 54:35
  Speaker 7: are tired of it and they just haven't embraced these
• 54:39
  Speaker 7: guys the way that I think so many have like,
• 54:41
  Speaker 7: People have really turned on Cal Raleigh. People have really
• 54:45
  Speaker 7: turned on him quickly. And a lot of that has
• 54:47
  Speaker 7: to do with what happened in the WBC, I think.
• 54:50
  Speaker 7: And they, you know, this is a fickle sports town,
• 54:52
  Speaker 7: if I'm just being completely honest with you. And a
• 54:54
  Speaker 7: lot of sports towns are. They did not forget that.
• 54:58
  Speaker 7: They did not forget about the Cal Randy thing whatsoever.
• 55:02
  Speaker 7: And I think people just haven't embraced this team and
• 55:06
  Speaker 7: they haven't made it easy to embrace.
• 55:09
  Speaker 1: That's just unfortunate, man. I mean, I say this often.
• 55:12
  Speaker 1: I'll say it again. I've lived in and worked in
• 55:15
  Speaker 1: markets that don't have Major League Baseball teams, two of them,
• 55:18
  Speaker 1: Portland and Salt Lake. And a joyless suck factory is
• 55:23
  Speaker 1: a summer without Major League Baseball, like in your town.
• 55:27
  Speaker 1: But then you have this. And I think it goes back, Chris,
• 55:29
  Speaker 1: you brought up a great point. Nathan, I'll let you
• 55:31
  Speaker 1: expand on this. It's a great point because we have
• 55:35
  Speaker 1: a hard time as sports fans multitasking, I think, sometimes.
• 55:39
  Speaker 1: Like being fans of two things at once at the
• 55:41
  Speaker 1: same time. Like, okay, baseball's over. Now I can be
• 55:43
  Speaker 1: a Seahawks fan. All right, Seahawks season's over. Now I
• 55:45
  Speaker 1: can be a Kraken fan. Now I can be whatever fan,
• 55:48
  Speaker 1: Mariner fan. It's just we do all these things, right?
• 55:51
  Speaker 1: But I think Chris Nathan brings up a good point.
• 55:54
  Speaker 1: The bar is so high in Renton, and we're seeing
• 55:58
  Speaker 1: it firsthand on Hard Knocks. Like how they handle things.
• 56:02
  Speaker 1: You've got this GM who is, if we're being honest,
• 56:05
  Speaker 1: a GM who's kind of eccentric. He's his own guy.
• 56:08
  Speaker 1: He's far from buttoned down, but he's a Hall of
• 56:11
  Speaker 1: Famer without a question. And he's built two Super Bowl
• 56:15
  Speaker 1: champions from the ground up. He's made tough decisions, all
• 56:18
  Speaker 1: the things. And I think that that bar being set
• 56:21
  Speaker 1: that high, I think it does put pressure on the
• 56:23
  Speaker 1: other teams in this town. And frankly, Nathan, the baseball
• 56:27
  Speaker 1: team has not responded.
• 56:30
  Speaker 8: No. And I do think that there's an element to that.
• 56:33
  Speaker 8: And I know that the Mariners at times can be
• 56:36
  Speaker 8: resentful of these kinds of things about the idea that
• 56:39
  Speaker 8: there are expectations. I know that there are people in
• 56:42
  Speaker 8: that organization who resented the idea that they were carrying
• 56:44
  Speaker 8: along the playoff list streak before they actually broke it.
• 56:47
  Speaker 8: They felt like that wasn't their mess and they were
• 56:49
  Speaker 8: having to bear all the brunt and the displeasure. From
• 56:51
  Speaker 8: the fans as they were trying to break that. And
• 56:53
  Speaker 8: I would assume for them, they feel a little bit
• 56:55
  Speaker 8: resentful that people expect them to be like the best
• 56:57
  Speaker 8: football team in the world, which plays right here. And
• 56:59
  Speaker 8: by the way, it's going to be super funny when
• 57:01
  Speaker 8: the Rams don't win the Super Bowl. I don't even
• 57:02
  Speaker 8: really care who does. It's just going to be really funny.
• 57:04
  Speaker 1: When they don't.
• 57:06
  Speaker 8: But yeah, I think that that's definitely a factor for them.
• 57:09
  Speaker 8: I think a thing that also just gets so– that
• 57:12
  Speaker 8: is so aggravating from the fan perspective with this kind
• 57:14
  Speaker 8: of season, you already touched on– This is probably the
• 57:17
  Speaker 8: worst American League, at least that I can remember. It
• 57:20
  Speaker 8: might be the worst American League in this country. If
• 57:23
  Speaker 8: the Mariners had, I don't know, had a C-minus offseason
• 57:28
  Speaker 8: or a D-plus and a D-plus season, they'd be in
• 57:32
  Speaker 8: first place in this division by three or four games.
• 57:35
  Speaker 8: All it took was... just barely regressing and they would
• 57:39
  Speaker 8: be coasting to the playoffs right now in first place
• 57:42
  Speaker 8: in the worst division in since 1994, when the season
• 57:45
  Speaker 8: got canceled and every team in the American league West
• 57:46
  Speaker 8: was below 500. So I think there's this understanding that
• 57:50
  Speaker 8: the art to, to achieve what this team wants to
• 57:54
  Speaker 8: achieve has been put so low for them this year.
• 57:57
  Speaker 8: They really don't have to do anything other than not
• 58:00
  Speaker 8: completely screw up in order to win this division. And
• 58:04
  Speaker 8: they couldn't even do that. And I think that really aggravates,
• 58:07
  Speaker 8: it aggravates me. And I'm a fan. I find it
• 58:10
  Speaker 8: really frustrating. And I bet a lot of other people
• 58:12
  Speaker 8: just look at this and like, dude, you could not
• 58:15
  Speaker 8: have an easier path. And you tripped all over yourself
• 58:18
  Speaker 8: trying to walk it. It's just so frustrating to watch.
• 58:20
  Speaker 1: Chris, you're not in agreement.
• 58:21
  Speaker 3: It is the worst.
• 58:22
  Speaker 1: I mean, has American League ever been this down?
• 58:24
  Speaker 6: No, no.
• 58:25
  Speaker 7: This is the worst just league that I can remember
• 58:29
  Speaker 7: since like, those years where the nets were winning the,
• 58:34
  Speaker 7: the Eastern championships, like when they had to go up
• 58:36
  Speaker 7: against those guys, like it's, it's really bad. And you know,
• 58:41
  Speaker 7: the national league, I don't know what the odds are
• 58:44
  Speaker 7: on the gambling sites, but they have to be overwhelming
• 58:47
  Speaker 7: favorites to win it all. And that's part of what
• 58:49
  Speaker 7: makes it so frustrating, but you know, it's so it's
• 58:53
  Speaker 7: unfair to compare John Schneider and Jerry to Poto because it's,
• 58:57
  Speaker 7: You know, there are different circumstances here, but it is
• 59:00
  Speaker 7: so crazy how someone is so beloved because he's done
• 59:03
  Speaker 7: a great job, but also embraced the fan base in
• 59:07
  Speaker 7: such a great way. Jerry DePoto. has done a lot
• 59:10
  Speaker 7: of good things in my humble estimation. Not enough, but
• 59:13
  Speaker 7: a lot of good things. Embracing the fan base ain't
• 59:15
  Speaker 7: one of them. It just isn't one of them whatsoever.
• 59:19
  Speaker 7: And you can't help but compare the two. They're the
• 59:21
  Speaker 7: two major, all due respect to Jason Botterell, who just
• 59:25
  Speaker 7: hasn't been here long enough to compare. They're the two
• 59:28
  Speaker 7: compare and contrast, right? And I think both are talented.
• 59:32
  Speaker 7: I think both have made mistakes. I still remember Rashad
• 59:34
  Speaker 7: Penny and the defensive tackle they drafted who played negative
• 59:37
  Speaker 7: six games for him and a bunch of mistakes that
• 59:40
  Speaker 7: he's made. But he embraced those mistakes and he learned
• 59:43
  Speaker 7: from those mistakes.
• 59:44
  Speaker 8: And he got better.
• 59:46
  Speaker 7: And you look at Jerry DiPoto on the other side
• 59:48
  Speaker 7: and it's stubborn, stubborn, stubborn, someone else's fault, stubborn, stubborn.
• 59:53
  Speaker 7: You can't help but compare them. And unfortunately, this wonderful,
• 59:56
  Speaker 7: stupid TV show that we're all watching just kind of
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 7: inflates just how much better at his job. John Snyder
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 7: is than Jerry DePoto.
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 1: Well said. Let's take a quick break. We'll come back.
• 1:00:07
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• 1:00:09
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• 1:00:12
  Speaker 1: he'll make his debut. Uh, and then I'm going to
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 1: use a word that softy did on, I don't know,
• 1:00:16
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• 1:00:20
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• 1:01:12
  Speaker 7: So I've been a big Lazaro Montes fan for a very,
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 7: very long time. And there were some people who used
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 7: to work for MLB teams who thought I was a
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 7: crazy person for ranking him so high. So I'm taking
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 7: at least a little bit of a victory lap that
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 7: he got here because some people thought that there was
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 7: no chance that he would be a major league player.
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 1: Ha ha, ha ha, ha ha.
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 7: So at least he reached the majors. There is reason
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 7: for concern early on. This guy swings and misses a lot,
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 7: like a lot, a lot. And it's going to be
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 7: something to keep an eye on going forward. I will
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 7: also say that strikeouts are just outs. And when you
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 7: hit the ball as hard as this guy does, it's
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 7: going to help compensate for it. I think this guy
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 7: has a chance to be a legitimate middle of the
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 7: order hitter someday. Somebody who can, you know, his nickname
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 7: is baby Yordan, which is totally not fair because Yordan
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 7: Alvarez is one of the greatest offensive players of the
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 7: last decade or so. But he is a guy who
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 7: can hit 30 plus home runs, who can get on
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 7: base at a strong, because one of the things that
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 7: comes with the strikeouts is walks. And he is a
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 7: guy who has shown much improved patience. I think this
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 7: guy has a chance to be a well above average
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 7: offensive player who can hit in the middle of the
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 7: order someday. I will not be shocked at all. If
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 7: this first month is a major learning experience for him,
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 7: because you just can't simulate major league pitching. And when
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 7: you swing and miss a lot, it becomes really hard
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 7: to simulate what you're going to go through.
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 1: Nathan, uh, we, uh, we were going to use the graphic, but, uh,
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 1: we didn't on Friday cause it's radio, but, uh, your graphic,
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 1: you sent us, how's the, uh, How's the ticker going?
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 1: It's now Taylor Ward and Rob Refsnyder?
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 8: Yeah, I appreciate you bringing it to our attention. So
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 8: we've decided, since Rob decided to retire, to honor him
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 8: by comparing his replacement, which is Taylor Ward. So Rob
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 8: Refsnyder has 16 hits as a Seattle Mariner in 2026.
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 8: After the big knock that Taylor Ward had on Saturday,
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 8: kudos to him to temporarily put the Mariners in the lead,
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 8: he's now at seven. So Taylor Ward's at seven hits
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 8: and Rob Refsnyder is at 16. I think that Taylor
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 8: can get there before the end of the season. I
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 8: know we're all really pulling... really hard for him unless
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 8: he's going to lose out on playing appearances as the
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 8: season goes downhill and the team continues to work in
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 8: all of its prospects. But, Regardless, we're rooting hard for you, Taylor.
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 3: Go get them.
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 8: We think that you can exceed or at least match
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 8: the legendary output of 2026 Rob Refsnyder.
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 1: We mentioned this on Friday, Anders and Chris and I,
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 1: that the graphic you sent us, it looked like the
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 1: Price is Right yodeling game or whatever the hell it is.
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 8: The saddest Price is Right game you've ever seen in
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 8: your life. Also, really quickly, I think it's a very
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 8: inapt nickname to call Laz baby Yordan, not just because
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 8: it saddles him with unfair expectations, but because I'm pretty sure...
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 8: He's significantly larger than Jordan Alvarez. He really is. I
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 8: think that's the thing. Regardless of what else you see,
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 8: just take a minute to appreciate the sheer scope and
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 8: size of this human being as he steps into the
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 8: plate this is a guy that could be if you
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 8: were not born in cuba were born in america he
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 8: could be playing uh d1 tight end probably like he's
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 8: or or edge rush like he is rushing for sure
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 8: five 250 260 moves pretty good for a guy that
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 8: size like just enjoy the splendor of what what do
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 8: you call him it's the big beefy boys he's.
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 7: A triple b for sure but he's like.
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 8: They're they they don't get bigger or beefier.
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 7: But there's nothing vogelbachian about him right like there's no
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 7: there's no uh you know he has not found the
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 7: cream cheese hot dog yet okay let's just be honest
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 7: here there is a this is a big old dude
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 7: if rob wrang sees this guy he's probably going to
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 7: try to convert him to go play uh d1 somewhere
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 7: on your.
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 8: Sky he's going to hit a baseball yeah he will
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 8: hit a baseball between now in the end of the
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 8: season in the major leagues. And when he does, it's
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 8: going to be hit extremely hard. So enjoy the, the
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 8: aesthetic experience of whatever he's going to strike out a ton,
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 8: but I just can't wait to see him run into one.
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 8: Cause it could go 480 feet.
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 1: I got just a few minutes left. Accountability soft. He
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 1: screamed and yelled on Instagram and Twitter all weekend about accountability.
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 1: We saw the bizarro play with behind him. We've seen
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 1: Julio be Julio. We've seen things like that. JP can't
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 1: get to a, what I think would be a considered
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 1: a routine ground ball on the way. Yeah.
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 7: Chris, is accountability an issue with this team? A thousand percent.
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 7: And it starts at the very, very top. It starts
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 7: with John Stanton. It goes down to Pobotopoto and Justin Hollander.
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 7: It goes to Dan Wilson. It goes to the players.
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 7: There just isn't accountability. And I think a lot of
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 7: people think that just looking like you're playing hard and
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 7: not smiling or whatever is accountability.
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 1: Bullcrap.
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 7: Accountability is taking accountability for your actions and then fixing
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 7: said actions, because you can say all you want about
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 7: how you were going to be playing harder and we're
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 7: going to do what we can to write this ship.
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 7: And how many times have we heard tough one tonight?
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 7: My God, if you're playing that game and drinking, do
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 7: not drive for the rest of your life. There's no accountability.
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 8: There's none.
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 7: There's zero accountability with this. And that's kind of, that
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 7: goes back to the Schneider to Poto comp comp too,
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 7: because when John Schneider's made mistakes, he's admitted his mistakes.
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 7: When's the last time you heard Jerry DePoto admit his mistake?
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 6: Can't.
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 3: Nope. Nathan.
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 8: There are a few people I think on air in
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 8: local airwaves that have been meaner to John Stanton than
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 8: I have been. And I take that as a point
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 8: of pride. I don't apologize for it. He should sell
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 8: the team immediately to real people who actually want to
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 8: feel the winter in town. That said, the Mariners have
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 8: the 16th ranked payroll in major league baseball, which is
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 8: entirely too low for a team in the situation that
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 8: it's in of the 14 teams that have spent less
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 8: money on payroll. 11, Have better records. If you want
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 8: to talk about accountability, should the Mariners spend more money?
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 3: Sure.
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 8: Jerry's getting run in circles by guys that are supposed
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 8: to be not doing this. He should not have worse
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 8: records than the Cincinnati Reds and the Miami Marlins and
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 8: the Washington Nationals and all of these other guys are
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 8: supposed to be bottom feeders. So I don't think that
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 8: you can hold the owners accountable, really. but somebody should
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 8: be holding Jerry accountable for this because this is a
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 8: mess and he is not dealing with the bottom five
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 8: payroll and he's getting, he's just, you know, it's just
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 8: not good enough, man. And it hasn't been, it hasn't
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 8: been good enough for a really long, long, long time.
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 7: But, but real quick on that. Number one, not an
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 7: excuse not to spend money. And number two, the person
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 7: who would hold Jerry DePoto and Justin Hollander accountable is
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 7: John Stanton. He is ultimately the one who decides who's
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 7: good enough to this. We are not the green Bay
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 7: flipping Packers. We don't get to vote on who gets
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 7: to be the general manager or who gets to do
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 7: this stuff. It's ultimately up to John Stanton and his
• 1:07:48
  Speaker 7: board members who decide whether or not this is good enough.
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 7: And this is good enough for John Stanton because the
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 7: attendance was great and he's going to make a lot
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 7: of money. And if he happens to win, so be it.
• 1:07:59
  Speaker 8: Can I say one more thing really quick? Um, Oh, geez,
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 8: I just totally lost my train of thought. But I
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 8: think that, oh, gosh, no, forget it. It's totally gone.
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 1: I don't remember right after we go off there. I'd
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 1: wrap it up with this, with that conversation. It's, yeah,
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 1: I mean, I think, can you imagine if the Mariners
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 1: had the Sounders deal? Were they, the fans got to
• 1:08:18
  Speaker 1: vote on if the GMs and stuff.
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 8: And you know, I just remember too, all I wanted
• 1:08:24
  Speaker 8: to say is Jerry's been here for 11 years. And
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 8: it's true that in those 11 years, winning a division
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 8: title in two playoff appearances counts as one of the best,
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 8: eras in franchise history, that doesn't make it good enough.
• 1:08:35
  Speaker 8: And that's the distinction you have to draw anywhere else.
• 1:08:39
  Speaker 8: Any other franchise, the track record that Jerry has is
• 1:08:41
  Speaker 8: not good enough to stick around. The fact that it's
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 8: one of the best runs ever seen here is more
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 8: of an indictment than it is praise. I think we
• 1:08:48
  Speaker 8: need to be honest about that.
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 1: Chris Boston, real quick thought on what they're going to
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 1: see the next three days.
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 7: I'm a better baseball team, just a team that's, and
• 1:08:56
  Speaker 7: it's so crazy because it was a team that Anders
• 1:08:58
  Speaker 7: and I were talking about, Hey, this could be a
• 1:09:01
  Speaker 7: team you trade with, with Wilson Contreras. They are just
• 1:09:04
  Speaker 7: a more, they're not a great team, but they have
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 7: taken advantage of how crappy the American league is. They
• 1:09:09
  Speaker 7: have been the team that said, if you guys are
• 1:09:11
  Speaker 7: going to suck, well, we're going to play up to
• 1:09:14
  Speaker 7: an average level and that's going to be good enough
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 7: to get a second wildcard spot. So yeah, I have
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 7: my real doubts that they can win this series.
• 1:09:22
  Speaker 1: God, Nathan, final thoughts from you.
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 8: I enjoy that bull and Mariners because the Red Sox
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 8: are going to absolutely mow you down and they're going
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 8: to throw so many left-handers, which I still think should
• 1:09:32
  Speaker 8: be illegal. Guys should just not be able to throw
• 1:09:34
  Speaker 8: left-handed pitchers against the Mariners. It's not fair. There's no
• 1:09:37
  Speaker 8: way that Jerry could have seen that coming. Left-handed were
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 8: an unexpected development in baseball. So enjoy it guys. It's
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 8: going to be a lot of fun.
• 1:09:44
  Speaker 1: The, um, Yeah, I– can Cal hit– what's Cal's situation,
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 1: lefty or righty? Can he hit better? Because it was
• 1:09:52
  Speaker 1: a lefty problem for a while.
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 8: It looks like righty right now to me.
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 7: Yeah, the last five, I believe, have been from the
• 1:09:59
  Speaker 7: left side, so that's been encouraging, but it doesn't matter.
• 1:10:03
  Speaker 1: Nothing in life matters. Go Seahawks.
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 7: Huskies, 49. Washington State, maybe 13 if they get one late.
• 1:10:11
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:10:13
  Speaker 1: Go Western Washington. I don't think they have a program anymore. No,
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 1: they don't. No, they don't. You'll see. Tim Booth's in-state
• 1:10:21
  Speaker 1: college football rankings will come out on Saturday night, and
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 1: that'll send everybody sideways. Western will be ranked 10th out
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 1: of 10, even though they don't have a program, which
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 1: is one of my favorite things, especially when people actually
• 1:10:34
  Speaker 1: take it serious. How can you put Whitworth ahead of
• 1:10:36
  Speaker 1: the Huskies?
• 1:10:38
  Speaker 3: Well, anyway.
• 1:10:39
  Speaker 1: Um, guys, this was, uh, it was therapeutic, I think for, well,
• 1:10:43
  Speaker 1: hopefully for you, I'm sure for our listeners as well.
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 1: I've again, I'll just wrap it up. I've never seen
• 1:10:49
  Speaker 1: the frustration level of a fan base for a team
• 1:10:51
  Speaker 1: that still has a chance to do some things, but
• 1:10:54
  Speaker 1: people have just, they've turned on this team and it's just, it's, it's, it's, they,
• 1:11:00
  Speaker 1: if they don't get in, even if they do get
• 1:11:02
  Speaker 1: in and get whacked early on, whatever, uh, the off
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 1: season will be interesting. And of course, and that's a
• 1:11:07
  Speaker 1: whole different conversation because what kind of off season are
• 1:11:09
  Speaker 1: we going to have if there's a lockout or a
• 1:11:11
  Speaker 1: strike or what have you, right? So anyway, all right.
• 1:11:15
  Speaker 1: Greg Bell said earlier, it's going to, we can't wait
• 1:11:17
  Speaker 1: for Molly Wap Monday.
• 1:11:18
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 1:11:18
  Speaker 1: Well, there it is. It's in the books. And more importantly,
• 1:11:22
  Speaker 1: we got the tracker going with Taylor Ward. The on
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 1: base machine before he got here and Rob ref Snyder.
• 1:11:27
  Speaker 1: So well done, Nathan. We'll look forward to having that
• 1:11:29
  Speaker 1: updated as the days go by. Of course, he doesn't
• 1:11:31
  Speaker 1: get a hit. I guess there's no update, right? So
• 1:11:33
  Speaker 1: we haven't seen an update for a while. That's a Saturday.
• 1:11:35
  Speaker 8: We will update the tracker.
• 1:11:37
  Speaker 3: You'll see it.
• 1:11:37
  Speaker 1: Thank you, Chris.
• 1:11:38
  Speaker 10: Mile.
• 1:11:39
  Speaker 6: Why? Mile? Why?
• 1:11:41
  Speaker 7: Boy, by the way, thank you guys so much. I
• 1:11:43
  Speaker 7: had my most viewed weekend ever. I believe the total
• 1:11:45
  Speaker 7: of 7,000 views over the last three days, which for
• 1:11:48
  Speaker 7: me is big time. that's going to make me about
• 1:11:51
  Speaker 7: $ 11 on YouTube. So I really do appreciate it. I
• 1:11:54
  Speaker 7: can afford to drive up to Seattle and host for
• 1:11:57
  Speaker 7: Ian in October or something like that.
• 1:11:59
  Speaker 8: Yeah.
• 1:11:59
  Speaker 1: You know, I might take some time off. What the hell?
• 1:12:01
  Speaker 1: It's only football. It's only football. It's only football and
• 1:12:03
  Speaker 1: hockey season. You know, life is pain. It is.
• 1:12:05
  Speaker 3: It is.
• 1:12:06
  Speaker 1: It is indeed. But I'm glad to hear that mile
• 1:12:08
  Speaker 1: wide tonight after the game, go check it out. Because again,
• 1:12:11
  Speaker 1: the biggest part of that thing is why Chris, why,
• 1:12:13
  Speaker 1: why I'm asking why that's.
• 1:12:15
  Speaker 7: What I titled the last two videos is why, and
• 1:12:17
  Speaker 7: then why care. And by the way, Also check out
• 1:12:20
  Speaker 7: Locked on Mariners with Andrew Searcy.
• 1:12:21
  Speaker 1: There he goes. All right, boys. Nathan, go sell a house.
• 1:12:24
  Speaker 1: We'll talk to you soon. That's Nathan. That's Chris. We'll
• 1:12:26
  Speaker 1: come back with more 93.3 KJR FM.
• 1:12:32
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• 1:12:36
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• 1:12:48
  Speaker 1: Thanks to the Molly Whoppers, Chris and Nate. Very spicy
• 1:12:53
  Speaker 1: couple of segments today with Molly Whop Monday. Therapeutic perhaps
• 1:12:57
  Speaker 1: for some. Expressing some frustration. Everyone's mad. Everyone's frustrated. Rightfully so.
• 1:13:04
  Speaker 1: I get it. We all get it. Yeah, man. Not
• 1:13:09
  Speaker 1: a great situation right now for the baseball team. Good
• 1:13:12
  Speaker 1: situation for Kyle Raleigh, named the American League Player of
• 1:13:13
  Speaker 1: the Week. It just tells you, first of all, good
• 1:13:16
  Speaker 1: for him on what's been a Brutal year and probably
• 1:13:21
  Speaker 1: brutal on a lot of different levels, but good for him.
• 1:13:24
  Speaker 1: The odd part of that, Anders, he's American League Player
• 1:13:28
  Speaker 1: of the Week. Team went 2-4 during the week and
• 1:13:34
  Speaker 1: sits nine games under.
• 1:13:35
  Speaker 3: 500.
• 1:13:35
  Speaker 1: It just tells you that there's not just, rightfully so,
• 1:13:40
  Speaker 1: Cal has been in the crosshairs of a lot of
• 1:13:43
  Speaker 1: the criticism and the blame this year. Your best players
• 1:13:46
  Speaker 1: have to be good. They don't have to be great,
• 1:13:49
  Speaker 1: but they have to be good. He's been awful. So
• 1:13:51
  Speaker 1: it's like, well, maybe if Cal was better. Well, Cal
• 1:13:53
  Speaker 1: was better last week, and you still went two and four,
• 1:13:57
  Speaker 1: which is telling, like really telling on a lot of levels, right?
• 1:14:02
  Speaker 8: Yeah.
• 1:14:03
  Speaker 1: So, yeah, a little frustration.
• 1:14:06
  Speaker 5: It's just I can't watch it anymore, really. It's perfect
• 1:14:12
  Speaker 5: timing for the Seahawks to be starting here pretty quickly.
• 1:14:15
  Speaker 1: I think a lot of people, we're going to get
• 1:14:17
  Speaker 1: into that a little more as a topic tomorrow on
• 1:14:18
  Speaker 1: some stuff.
• 1:14:19
  Speaker 12: Yeah.
• 1:14:19
  Speaker 1: Because I think there's a lot of people like that.
• 1:14:22
  Speaker 1: And again, mathematically, mathematically, the American League West is still there.
• 1:14:31
  Speaker 5: I feel like Nathan, I almost hope they don't get
• 1:14:33
  Speaker 5: it now.
• 1:14:33
  Speaker 3: I really don't.
• 1:14:34
  Speaker 1: That's been a topic of conversation on a number of
• 1:14:37
  Speaker 1: shows lately. I know the guys in the afternoon have
• 1:14:40
  Speaker 1: talked about that a handful of times. And they're not alone.
• 1:14:45
  Speaker 1: You're not alone. There's a lot of people that way.
• 1:14:50
  Speaker 1: I can't bring myself there yet, but I wish we
• 1:14:57
  Speaker 1: could put our finger on what it is about this
• 1:15:00
  Speaker 1: team that has caused that emotion like you just mentioned.
• 1:15:05
  Speaker 5: This is as apathetic at this point in the season
• 1:15:07
  Speaker 5: than I've felt. And I'll just tell people you're a
• 1:15:10
  Speaker 5: dire baseball player. Yeah, well, even in 23 and 24,
• 1:15:13
  Speaker 5: the Mariners missed the playoffs. There was this feeling of, okay,
• 1:15:17
  Speaker 5: they can tweak a couple things. The team's still battling.
• 1:15:20
  Speaker 5: In 24, when they replaced Scott Service with Dan Wilson,
• 1:15:23
  Speaker 5: they went on a run to end the year. In 23,
• 1:15:28
  Speaker 5: they missed it by one.
• 1:15:29
  Speaker 3: Game, and.
• 1:15:32
  Speaker 5: They ended up having one of their worst off-seasons, which
• 1:15:34
  Speaker 5: is saying something after that. But it felt like they
• 1:15:37
  Speaker 5: were still... pretty close. This year, it feels like, okay,
• 1:15:42
  Speaker 5: what if we actually need to make some big changes here?
• 1:15:45
  Speaker 5: And the worst part about it, the thing that makes
• 1:15:47
  Speaker 5: it the most apathetic is the fact that you know
• 1:15:49
  Speaker 5: it's not going to happen. And so it's just like,
• 1:15:53
  Speaker 5: all right, why even care at this point if this
• 1:15:55
  Speaker 5: is all you're going to shoot for?
• 1:15:56
  Speaker 1: Yeah, there was a, you know, I always kind of
• 1:15:58
  Speaker 1: look back. There's that stretch from 2007 to 2010. They
• 1:16:00
  Speaker 1: had five different managers in four seasons. Hargrove, McLaren, Riggleman, Wakamatsu,
• 1:16:08
  Speaker 1: and Brown. Like that, you kind of feel like there's
• 1:16:13
  Speaker 1: a low point, but there's different types of low points.
• 1:16:16
  Speaker 1: The low point this year is the fact that the
• 1:16:18
  Speaker 1: expectations were such, and they're not being, not only not
• 1:16:23
  Speaker 1: being met there. I mean, it's just, and it's been
• 1:16:26
  Speaker 1: that way all year. And just real quick, I think
• 1:16:29
  Speaker 1: part of it too, is it, it's been that way
• 1:16:30
  Speaker 1: all year. Like if it's one thing, if you're like
• 1:16:33
  Speaker 1: playing well, blah, blah, blah. And then you hit a
• 1:16:36
  Speaker 1: skid like, oh man, if not for that 10-game losing streak,
• 1:16:39
  Speaker 1: we'd be fine, right? That's not the case. That's not
• 1:16:43
  Speaker 1: the case. So what were you going to say? I'm sorry.
• 1:16:46
  Speaker 10: No, I know. You're good.
• 1:16:47
  Speaker 5: It's just for those who... And I've seen this sentiment
• 1:16:51
  Speaker 5: pretty frequently. For those who say, oh, maybe they weren't
• 1:16:55
  Speaker 5: as talented and we weren't right to have those expectations.
• 1:16:58
  Speaker 5: And Chris kind of alluded to that. It wasn't just
• 1:17:02
  Speaker 5: us here in Seattle. It wasn't just.
• 1:17:07
  Speaker 5: The Mariners themselves, the entire league expected the Mariners to
• 1:17:10
  Speaker 5: easily walk through the AL West and be that team
• 1:17:15
  Speaker 5: that's one of the best in the American League. Even
• 1:17:17
  Speaker 5: up until the last couple weeks, the Mariners were still
• 1:17:22
  Speaker 5: favored as the second or third most likely team to
• 1:17:26
  Speaker 5: win the World Series because of how much talent that
• 1:17:30
  Speaker 5: everyone sees them having. And that's Vegas. And they have
• 1:17:33
  Speaker 5: no other.
• 1:17:35
  Speaker 5: Agendas to meet there besides who's actually going to be
• 1:17:37
  Speaker 5: the one to do it. So it's, it's, it's mind
• 1:17:41
  Speaker 5: boggling to me how it's come to this point. Um,
• 1:17:44
  Speaker 5: and I, I expect, I don't expect, but I hope
• 1:17:47
  Speaker 5: at the end of the day, there's some changes.
• 1:17:49
  Speaker 1: Hardcore football. One, just one quick segment today. Hardcore football
• 1:17:52
  Speaker 1: with Hugh Miller next.
• 1:17:56
  Speaker 6: Now from the star rental sports desk, your 93.3 KJR
• 1:17:59
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• 1:18:04
  Speaker 1: Ross Bucure's light juice, chill. The Mariners got swept in
• 1:18:08
  Speaker 1: Toronto versus the Blue Jays over the weekend. Five games back,
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  Speaker 1: the Wild Card and AL West start a series with
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  Speaker 1: Boston today. About 3.45 our time. We should mention Cal
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  Speaker 1: Raleigh is named the American League Player of the Week.
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  Speaker 1: Had a big week last week for Seattle, while the
• 1:18:22
  Speaker 1: team did not, but he did. Seahawks make final cuts.
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  Speaker 1: 53-man roster. Javon Diggs cut. He re-signs with the practice squad,
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  Speaker 1: at least expected to. They haven't announced that officially yet.
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  Speaker 1: Ranked number five in the NFL Top 100. Sam Howell
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  Speaker 1: is the backup quarterback in Dallas. They cut to the Cowboys'
• 1:18:36
  Speaker 1: Joe Milton today. Sounders drew with Chicago over the weekend 2-2.
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  Speaker 1: Aaron Donald's back. We all know that. And Lionel Messi
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  Speaker 1: retiring from the Argentina national team as well. Hugh Millen
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  Speaker 1: standing by.
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  Speaker 6: with Ian Furness on Sports Radio 93.3 KJR-FM.
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  Speaker 1: All right, Hugh Millen joins us. Normally earlier in the
• 1:19:11
  Speaker 1: show on a Monday, we've got some scheduling things that
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  Speaker 1: we did, so I did not want this Monday to
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  Speaker 1: go by without a Hardcore Football Edition with Mr. Millen
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  Speaker 1: after the cut-down day, final preseason game, all that fun stuff,
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  Speaker 1: so he's with us here for a segment.
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  Speaker 10: Hello, sir.
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  Speaker 1: Thanks for doing this. Great to be with you, Ian.
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  Speaker 1: Let's get to it. Anything jump out at you before
• 1:19:31
  Speaker 1: I want to get into a little hardcore with Jalen
• 1:19:33
  Speaker 1: Milrow in a second, but before I do that, anything
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  Speaker 1: jump out at you with the cut-down day yesterday?
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  Speaker 11: I would say primarily the safeties that, uh, you know,
• 1:19:46
  Speaker 11: you look and only three guys that have a safety
• 1:19:49
  Speaker 11: next to their name, Julian Love, Ty Okada, and Nick Emanwuri.
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  Speaker 11: And Emanwuri, as we've discussed, uh, he's really a strong
• 1:19:57
  Speaker 11: outside linebacker. Uh, star, uh, is a term that is
• 1:20:02
  Speaker 11: used by, uh, uh, Nick Saban. So therefore, uh, a
• 1:20:06
  Speaker 11: lot of, uh, a lot of, uh, the college football
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  Speaker 11: and a lot of football period, uh, use that term.
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  Speaker 11: Carl Scott coached with Saban, uh, who's the, uh, the
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  Speaker 11: DB coach for the Seahawks. So at any event, um,
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  Speaker 11: that probably surprised me because that means that if you
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  Speaker 11: had to play tonight, there's only two guys on the
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  Speaker 11: roster and there are two high team. They're in the
• 1:20:31
  Speaker 11: top five in the league in terms of their use
• 1:20:33
  Speaker 11: of too high. So they're back in safety. There there's
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  Speaker 11: only two guys.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. So, that's going to change.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 11: And so that probably surprised me the most. Um, yeah, that, that, and, and,
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  Speaker 11: you know, the cornerback position has been a position in
• 1:20:49
  Speaker 11: flux all summer. So that didn't really surprise me, but
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  Speaker 11: I think that secondary is feeling a little bit undernourished
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  Speaker 11: right now.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: They, they're playing a little, you know, roster gymnastics, I guess, and,
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  Speaker 1: and banking on some guys being vested veterans and getting
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  Speaker 1: them back. And, Doing whatever Schneider does, but yeah, we
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  Speaker 1: would expect to see D'Anthony Bell and maybe Thomas back
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  Speaker 1: as well. We'll see. All right, let me get to
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  Speaker 1: Jalen Millrell. I just mentioned the headline that Sam Howell
• 1:21:16
  Speaker 1: is the backup quarterback in Dallas this year. For a
• 1:21:19
  Speaker 1: Cowboys team, and there's context to what I'm saying here,
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  Speaker 1: for a Cowboys team that has very high expectations in
• 1:21:25
  Speaker 1: the NFC, they gutted their defensive staff, added to that
• 1:21:29
  Speaker 1: roster on the defensive side. They had a top-five offense
• 1:21:31
  Speaker 1: and a bottom-three defense last year. But they got Dak Prescott,
• 1:21:35
  Speaker 1: and if something were to happen to him, it's not
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  Speaker 1: Joe Milton, it's Sam Howell. I'd be terrified if I
• 1:21:40
  Speaker 1: was a Cowboy fan with that. Drew Locke, he's not
• 1:21:42
  Speaker 1: Sam Darnold, but I think, you know, okay. Number three
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  Speaker 1: in Seattle is Jalen Milrow. And we were all wanting
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  Speaker 1: to see the quarterback position. You know, everyone knows, so
• 1:21:53
  Speaker 1: damn important. Developing a guy is hard to do. You
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  Speaker 1: just don't have the space on a roster and the
• 1:21:58
  Speaker 1: time and the practice. You've talked about that a lot.
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  Speaker 1: But they have a guy that has a skill set,
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  Speaker 1: and I know they want to see something move forward.
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  Speaker 1: I bring up Sam Howell. We know what Sam Howell is.
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  Speaker 1: We've seen him here. We've seen him in Washington. Whatever.
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  Speaker 1: Jalen Milrow, we're just scratching the surface. From last year,
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  Speaker 1: training camp, final preseason game, what have you seen from
• 1:22:19
  Speaker 1: Jalen Milrow, and is it giving you any optimism for
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  Speaker 1: what he could be in a couple years?
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  Speaker 11: Well, first of all, I think Joe Milton, that surprised
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  Speaker 11: me because when he played against Seattle, Yeah. He had
• 1:22:32
  Speaker 11: a couple completions over the middle. I was watching the
• 1:22:34
  Speaker 11: end zone copy, and I have this affinity to quarterbacking,
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  Speaker 11: and I just thought it looked so pretty how he
• 1:22:44
  Speaker 11: was like this beautiful, efficient mechanics. I mean, it looked
• 1:22:48
  Speaker 11: dead-ass perfect how he threw the football and the way
• 1:22:52
  Speaker 11: he ripped it in there on some intermediate crossing routes
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  Speaker 11: really impressed me. So I'm surprised. to know that Milton is–
• 1:23:01
  Speaker 11: I don't know, is he on the streets? Did he
• 1:23:02
  Speaker 11: get picked up? Well, they just released him today. Yeah,
• 1:23:06
  Speaker 11: so as for Jalen Milrow, I thought it was a
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  Speaker 11: really good night for him Friday. Now, personally, I don't
• 1:23:14
  Speaker 11: think that means that you're out of the woods. He's
• 1:23:16
  Speaker 11: had six preseason games, and he's played well in one
• 1:23:20
  Speaker 11: of them, and yet it's the most recent. So that's
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  Speaker 11: a good thing for him, and it certainly– lends itself
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  Speaker 11: to the idea that he has made improvements since a
• 1:23:31
  Speaker 11: year ago when he started and played all of the
• 1:23:33
  Speaker 11: Green Bay game in the last preseason game, right? But
• 1:23:37
  Speaker 11: he throws the ball to Cody White on a post
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  Speaker 11: route where the five-man rush, so you got just a
• 1:23:43
  Speaker 11: six-man match zone type concept, which is normally three deep,
• 1:23:48
  Speaker 11: three under. It happened to be two deep. And so
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  Speaker 11: when the safety came down, on uh on his left
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  Speaker 11: then then he he had cody white to just beat
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  Speaker 11: the safety and the corner on that side leans out
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  Speaker 11: outward crosses his face and then then you have to
• 1:24:05
  Speaker 11: worry about the backside corner the corner from milrose left
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  Speaker 11: as he's throwing the ball right to left uh he
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  Speaker 11: just put it in a perfect spot that was beautiful
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  Speaker 11: uh you know he hit mark uh elijah roya on
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  Speaker 11: a a little glance route a little skinny post from
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  Speaker 11: the tight end where he play action And I love
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  Speaker 11: the timing on it because he went five steps, turned
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  Speaker 11: back to the defense, gets his feet wide, and then
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  Speaker 11: turns with absolutely no footstep. He just rotates within his shoes,
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  Speaker 11: and he gets his hips into the ball. And it
• 1:24:40
  Speaker 11: ends up being 24 yards, but the last 10 of
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  Speaker 11: which were because he got the ball to the tight
• 1:24:45
  Speaker 11: end early enough. Arroyo makes the nickel throw. Here's that
• 1:24:49
  Speaker 11: term again, that star coming from the other direction. He
• 1:24:52
  Speaker 11: made that guy miss and then get 10 more yards.
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  Speaker 11: So that run after the catch doesn't happen unless you're
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  Speaker 11: playing on time from playing under center and shotgun. You know,
• 1:25:03
  Speaker 11: he hit Montori Foster on a dig route, an in-breaking
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  Speaker 11: route in between the two hook defenders. Those are the
• 1:25:11
  Speaker 11: shallow inside defenders. And he anticipated a window, got in there.
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  Speaker 11: A couple more beautiful job of navigating the pocket on
• 1:25:20
  Speaker 11: a cover zero, on a six-man blitz, on just a
• 1:25:24
  Speaker 11: six-man protection. The Seahawks picked everybody up, but things were
• 1:25:28
  Speaker 11: kind of closing in on him. He shuffles to his left,
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  Speaker 11: closes his hips, and at that juncture, it's advantage to
• 1:25:37
  Speaker 11: the defense. At that point, if he just frees the tape,
• 1:25:42
  Speaker 11: but then he whips his hips back out, throwing position.
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  Speaker 11: Hits Henderson over the middle for 26 yards on a
• 1:25:50
  Speaker 11: catch and run there. That was beautiful. And lastly, a
• 1:25:55
  Speaker 11: corner route, often termed a shake route, which is a
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  Speaker 11: hard lean to the post and then back to the corner.
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  Speaker 11: And this was play action to his left, turns, finds
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  Speaker 11: the route, and it.
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  Speaker 1: Was good coverage.
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  Speaker 11: But he just put it in a near perfect spot
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  Speaker 11: out to the sideline, 26 air yards on that completion.
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  Speaker 11: All those completions I just described, the ball was in
• 1:26:19
  Speaker 11: the air more than 10 yards. And in the preseason,
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  Speaker 11: he had eight completions with air yards of 10 or more.
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  Speaker 11: Five of them were Friday night. So he had a
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  Speaker 11: clean pocket. He was 12 of 17, 147 yards. And
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  Speaker 11: And then he made the play action game work, whether
• 1:26:38
  Speaker 11: it was under shotgun or from shotgun or under center,
• 1:26:42
  Speaker 11: seven and nine, 103 yards. That's the way the Seahawks
• 1:26:46
  Speaker 11: want to play. So he took a big step forward.
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  Speaker 11: He didn't take a step forward to go get Drew
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  Speaker 11: Locke at the number two, but at least he got
• 1:26:56
  Speaker 11: people's concerns assuaged momentarily for Seahawks. the direction he was
• 1:27:01
  Speaker 11: going because it felt like he was treading water until
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  Speaker 11: Friday and then he had a really good night.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, and it just, you know, as, as cut
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  Speaker 1: down day happens and you see rosters around the league
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  Speaker 1: and I look at guys, you know, not the 32 starters,
• 1:27:13
  Speaker 1: but the guys that are the twos, right. Or even threes.
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  Speaker 1: And there was, I think it was four teams. Now,
• 1:27:18
  Speaker 1: one of those was Minnesota and they let Brosmer go today, but,
• 1:27:20
  Speaker 1: but there were four teams initially on the cut down
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  Speaker 1: to 53 that kept four quarterbacks on their 53 man roster,
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  Speaker 1: which is kind of crazy, I think, you know, in
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  Speaker 1: a sense, right? Like you're like, well, you're keeping all
• 1:27:30
  Speaker 1: these guys, four quarterbacks seems out of the ordinary. But
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  Speaker 1: I think what it does show you is that there's
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  Speaker 1: an urgency. I won't use the term desperation, but I
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  Speaker 1: think there's an urgency around the NFL to not just
• 1:27:43
  Speaker 1: find the guy, but also to have some quality depth
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  Speaker 1: at that position. And I've kind of, you and I've
• 1:27:49
  Speaker 1: talked about this on and off the air. I think
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  Speaker 1: the cool thing with Milrow is there is no sense
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  Speaker 1: of urgency. Like he didn't have to be ready today.
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  Speaker 1: He doesn't have to be ready today, tomorrow. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: they've got a four-year window with a third-round pick to
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  Speaker 1: kind of get him there. But that's only good if
• 1:28:02
  Speaker 1: you see development. And from listening to you just now,
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  Speaker 1: they probably are looking and saying, okay, we're seeing him
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  Speaker 1: take steps forward, not to the level of Drew Locke,
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  Speaker 1: but we're seeing levels of movement on an upward trajectory.
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  Speaker 11: I would think that they would want– In their private
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  Speaker 11: desires to have Milrow be the number two next year.
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  Speaker 1: Yep.
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  Speaker 11: He would still have two more years after this year
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  Speaker 11: on his contract. And Drew Locke, his contract's up. And obviously,
• 1:28:33
  Speaker 11: you're looking to save a buck. And maybe if Milrow
• 1:28:36
  Speaker 11: can present a different flair with his style.
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  Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.
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  Speaker 11: A more athletic flair, then that would be desirous of
• 1:28:44
  Speaker 11: the Seahawks for a year from now.
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  Speaker 1: But he's not ready.
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  Speaker 3: Right.
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  Speaker 1: I don't think anybody's thinking that. And just a thought.
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  Speaker 11: As an aside to what you were saying, I think
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  Speaker 11: the league should just mandate there's three quarterbacks, period. Every
• 1:28:58
  Speaker 11: three quarterbacks have to dress. It doesn't matter when you
• 1:29:00
  Speaker 11: play in the game. None of this business about if the,
• 1:29:03
  Speaker 11: you know, the third guy goes in, then the second
• 1:29:05
  Speaker 11: guy can't go in after.
• 1:29:07
  Speaker 1: Right.
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  Speaker 11: And the way I could sell it on them is,
• 1:29:10
  Speaker 11: is the, the safety, the safety part of this. I mean,
• 1:29:13
  Speaker 11: if you only dress two guys that let's say, let's
• 1:29:16
  Speaker 11: say the starter goes down with an unequivocal injury. Well,
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  Speaker 11: Then now the backup is in a hell of a
• 1:29:22
  Speaker 11: position because, you know, a moderate injury that would ordinarily say, hey,
• 1:29:28
  Speaker 11: sit out, you know, you get hit in the head
• 1:29:30
  Speaker 11: and you're like, oh, hey, you know, maybe let me
• 1:29:32
  Speaker 11: go in the tent for a minute and, you know,
• 1:29:35
  Speaker 11: see if, you know, how I'm doing, clear the cobwebs,
• 1:29:37
  Speaker 11: whatever it is. There's no third guy to go on.
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  Speaker 11: And now all of a sudden your teammates are looking
• 1:29:42
  Speaker 11: at you like, dude.
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  Speaker 3: Right.
• 1:29:44
  Speaker 1: Like, what if this is a vital game? Well, we
• 1:29:46
  Speaker 1: saw that in the NFC Championship game with the 49ers
• 1:29:48
  Speaker 1: a couple years ago.
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  Speaker 11: Purdy rips his elbow up, and he ends up having
• 1:29:53
  Speaker 11: to go back in. So now his ulnar collateral ligament
• 1:29:59
  Speaker 11: is on a string, and he has to go out
• 1:30:04
  Speaker 11: there and throw a football. But his teammates are going,
• 1:30:06
  Speaker 11: All we need is one pin, Rodney. All we need
• 1:30:09
  Speaker 11: is one completion to get in field goal range. And
• 1:30:12
  Speaker 11: that's just not fair to do to guys. And there
• 1:30:14
  Speaker 11: was concussion elements to that, if I remember as well.
• 1:30:17
  Speaker 6: There was.
• 1:30:18
  Speaker 1: Was it Josh Johnson, I think, was the backup? Josh Johnson, yeah.
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  Speaker 11: So now, all of a sudden, you're a guy. And
• 1:30:24
  Speaker 11: I've actually been in this situation. I handled it myself.
• 1:30:29
  Speaker 11: But I got hit in the face once. This is
• 1:30:32
  Speaker 11: back when. you know, they could smack you in the face.
• 1:30:34
  Speaker 11: There was no penalty. You look at a referee and say,
• 1:30:37
  Speaker 11: what's the problem? You're wearing a helmet.
• 1:30:38
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 11: You know, I got smacked in the helmet, uh, uh,
• 1:30:41
  Speaker 11: helmet to helmet, the first play. And I knew I
• 1:30:43
  Speaker 11: was concussed.
• 1:30:44
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 1:30:46
  Speaker 11: And I'm like, well, do I tap out here? Um,
• 1:30:50
  Speaker 11: you know, I could go out there and play worse
• 1:30:52
  Speaker 11: and that that's not going to help the team or me.
• 1:30:55
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 1:30:55
  Speaker 1: Um, you know, and I'm, I'm sitting there, I'm not
• 1:30:57
  Speaker 1: telling the trainer nothing.
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  Speaker 6: Right.
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  Speaker 11: And I'm on the sideline and I, I resolve, well,
• 1:31:02
  Speaker 11: I'll go out. And I'll just kind of, I won't
• 1:31:05
  Speaker 11: try and, you know, push the ball down the field.
• 1:31:08
  Speaker 11: You know, maybe I'll hit a check down. That was
• 1:31:10
  Speaker 11: kind of my thought at the time, but I, I,
• 1:31:12
  Speaker 11: you know, kind of cleared up and, and went out
• 1:31:14
  Speaker 11: and everything was fine. Um, you know, probably should, um,
• 1:31:19
  Speaker 11: bang my head on a, on a wall in the
• 1:31:21
  Speaker 11: locker room, uh, more often because it seems like that
• 1:31:23
  Speaker 11: was the only time I played well is when I
• 1:31:25
  Speaker 11: thought I was concussed. So, um, it worked out okay, but, um, But,
• 1:31:30
  Speaker 11: you know, think of the– that just underscores the type
• 1:31:34
  Speaker 11: of circumstances that we could be dealing with with this
• 1:31:39
  Speaker 11: ridiculous idea that you only dress two quarterbacks. Dress three,
• 1:31:42
  Speaker 11: mandate it, take it out of the team's hands. All
• 1:31:46
  Speaker 11: three guys got to be dressed, ready to go, and
• 1:31:49
  Speaker 11: it doesn't matter. You can play the third on the
• 1:31:51
  Speaker 11: second play of the game. You can yank them out, in, out.
• 1:31:54
  Speaker 11: You're paying them the money anyways. So what does it
• 1:31:57
  Speaker 11: matter which quarterback's on the field? Let the coach determine
• 1:32:02
  Speaker 11: and not have to worry about, well, if the second stringer–
• 1:32:05
  Speaker 11: you know the rule. If the third stringer goes in,
• 1:32:08
  Speaker 11: then the second stringer can't go in. And I know
• 1:32:10
  Speaker 11: they say, well– because they were using the third quarterback
• 1:32:13
  Speaker 11: for other positions– That's a really simple rule. Just say, hey,
• 1:32:18
  Speaker 11: if the third quarterback, he has to take the ball
• 1:32:24
  Speaker 11: from under center or from shotgun. He's not allowed to
• 1:32:27
  Speaker 11: line up and go wildcat. You can just say, you
• 1:32:31
  Speaker 11: know what? That would be a very simple rule. The
• 1:32:33
  Speaker 11: designated third quarterback, if he's in the game, he has
• 1:32:36
  Speaker 11: to be the quarterback. He has to take the ball
• 1:32:39
  Speaker 11: from center. That is not a difficult rule.
• 1:32:43
  Speaker 6: No.
• 1:32:43
  Speaker 11: To, to enact in order, you know, with the objective again, to, to,
• 1:32:48
  Speaker 11: to have three quarterbacks and, and, and avoid some of
• 1:32:51
  Speaker 11: these injury situations.
• 1:32:53
  Speaker 1: Anyway, sorry. No, I'm with you. That's a little bit
• 1:32:55
  Speaker 1: of a tangent I went on. I'm with you. I mean,
• 1:32:57
  Speaker 1: Mike Holmgren talked about that for years is on our,
• 1:32:59
  Speaker 1: on our station is that, you know, Hey, need it like, like,
• 1:33:02
  Speaker 1: and he said, when they go to the competition meetings,
• 1:33:04
  Speaker 1: they always kind of push back was like, if we,
• 1:33:06
  Speaker 1: you know, maybe, maybe make the roster 54 and that
• 1:33:08
  Speaker 1: 54 spot has to be what you just said, a
• 1:33:10
  Speaker 1: third quarterback. And Mike would say the pushback from owners
• 1:33:13
  Speaker 1: was money or what have you. And I'm like, God,
• 1:33:14
  Speaker 1: if there's one league that can afford it, it's this league.
• 1:33:17
  Speaker 1: But you're paying them anyway. I know. It's ridiculous. If
• 1:33:20
  Speaker 1: you're on the 53, you're getting paid.
• 1:33:23
  Speaker 3: 100%.
• 1:33:24
  Speaker 1: Let me get to this real fast because in the
• 1:33:25
  Speaker 1: last couple minutes here, before we got to wrap it up,
• 1:33:28
  Speaker 1: you referenced and kind of mentioned the cornerback position. I
• 1:33:30
  Speaker 1: want to go back down that road for a second.
• 1:33:33
  Speaker 1: Right now, Witherspoon, Nehemiah Pritchett, Josh Jobe, Julian Neal, and
• 1:33:37
  Speaker 1: then they traded for Avery Smith from the Chargers, who's
• 1:33:41
  Speaker 1: probably going to get cut, but they gave away a
• 1:33:42
  Speaker 1: late draft pick for him to bring him in. Those
• 1:33:44
  Speaker 1: are your corners. You've expressed some concern with Jobe a
• 1:33:49
  Speaker 1: little bit. We have no idea about Julian Neal, right, Hugh?
• 1:33:53
  Speaker 1: We haven't seen him at all. We have no idea there.
• 1:33:55
  Speaker 1: That's a great unknown. You've seen enough Pritchett. Where does
• 1:34:00
  Speaker 1: Hugh Millen stand on the cornerbacks right now? Well, I
• 1:34:04
  Speaker 1: I'll just go back to what I thought of them
• 1:34:07
  Speaker 1: in the Superbowl. I thought that on a, on exceedingly
• 1:34:10
  Speaker 1: good defense, if you're trying to find any, uh, any weakness,
• 1:34:17
  Speaker 1: it was in the person of Josh Jobe, in my opinion.
• 1:34:19
  Speaker 1: And that's not to denigrate him. I think he's a
• 1:34:22
  Speaker 1: solid corner, but on a defense where you're looking at
• 1:34:26
  Speaker 1: stars everywhere, I'd rather go after Josh Jobe than Reek Wollin. And, um,
• 1:34:32
  Speaker 1: and so, you know, off Reek Wollin goes.
• 1:34:34
  Speaker 11: So, So now that elevates Josh Jobe, but then where
• 1:34:39
  Speaker 11: you are on the rest of it, Julian Neal, third
• 1:34:41
  Speaker 11: round draft pick, you know, Shaq Griffin was a third
• 1:34:45
  Speaker 11: round draft pick and started first game as a rookie,
• 1:34:48
  Speaker 11: if I recall. So it wouldn't have been unheard of
• 1:34:52
  Speaker 11: had that happened, but his injuries have presented that, prevented that,
• 1:34:55
  Speaker 11: but he's six, one and a half. And, you know,
• 1:34:57
  Speaker 11: he's got some some skills. And so you, you, you
• 1:35:00
  Speaker 11: don't want to put them on any PUP or IR
• 1:35:03
  Speaker 11: or anything. So, so you just kind of navigate these
• 1:35:07
  Speaker 11: few days until he's up and ready to go. I
• 1:35:09
  Speaker 11: watched a little bit of tape on Avery Smith. I,
• 1:35:13
  Speaker 11: you know, I don't see anything really special. I mean,
• 1:35:16
  Speaker 11: he looks like he just looks like a good player,
• 1:35:18
  Speaker 11: you know, kind of a fringe back of the roster
• 1:35:21
  Speaker 11: type guy.
• 1:35:22
  Speaker 1: He's 141 snaps, 52 were in the outside. So that's
• 1:35:25
  Speaker 1: a good number on the inside.
• 1:35:28
  Speaker 11: And so I think as much as anything, that's kind
• 1:35:31
  Speaker 11: of a nickel-dime acquisition for a guy who can play
• 1:35:37
  Speaker 11: inside on the slot.
• 1:35:38
  Speaker 1: By the way, the Seahawks just as of a minute ago,
• 1:35:42
  Speaker 1: as we were talking, they announced their practice squad, Hugh.
• 1:35:45
  Speaker 1: I'll just bang it through for you real quick. React
• 1:35:49
  Speaker 1: on the fly. Tackle Logan Brown on the offensive side.
• 1:35:54
  Speaker 1: I'll stay on the offensive side. Tackle Logan Brown. Wide
• 1:35:57
  Speaker 1: receiver Julian Hicks. Wide receiver Emmanuel Henderson Jr. Also, Valus
• 1:36:02
  Speaker 1: Jones Jr. to Cartier Wright. The running backs, Ricky White III,
• 1:36:06
  Speaker 1: who's a receiver, return man, special teams guy. They get
• 1:36:11
  Speaker 1: Frederico Marin Jens, he's the foreign player, so they get
• 1:36:14
  Speaker 1: the extra player there. Those are all on the offensive side.
• 1:36:18
  Speaker 1: On the defensive side, Michael Dansby, Trevon Diggs, the corners. Also, A.J. Finley,
• 1:36:24
  Speaker 1: Andre Fuller, another corner. Safety, Maxson Hook. That was Marshawn's
• 1:36:29
  Speaker 1: buddy from Hard Knocks. Aidan Hubbard, defensive end, Marvin Jones,
• 1:36:33
  Speaker 1: a pass rusher. and Uso Sayamalo. The tackle's been featured
• 1:36:39
  Speaker 1: in Hard Knocks and Rodney Thomas, so that's your practice squad.
• 1:36:42
  Speaker 1: So they get Diggs onto the practice squad. He'll be elevated,
• 1:36:44
  Speaker 1: so I guess that is a good transition, real fast
• 1:36:46
  Speaker 1: to wrap it up. Trevon Diggs, he's going to be on.
• 1:36:50
  Speaker 1: They'll bump him up for sure. They're just trying to
• 1:36:52
  Speaker 1: get him up to speed. Yeah, and you saw him
• 1:36:57
  Speaker 1: as they had to bump over on on the switch
• 1:37:01
  Speaker 1: there in man-to-man coverage, he had Worthy. He was arguably
• 1:37:04
  Speaker 1: the fastest receiver in the NFL. And he had to
• 1:37:09
  Speaker 1: run stride for stride with them on an intermediate route,
• 1:37:11
  Speaker 1: and he diagnosed the crossing route, got underneath it, and
• 1:37:16
  Speaker 1: made a play on the ball, which is not surprising
• 1:37:18
  Speaker 1: because he had 11 interceptions one year. A couple of
• 1:37:21
  Speaker 1: those guys that I really like– Oh, where's my notes?
• 1:37:27
  Speaker 3: 24.
• 1:37:27
  Speaker 1: What's the safety? 24. That'd be Rodney Thomas.
• 1:37:31
  Speaker 2: Yep.
• 1:37:32
  Speaker 1: I liked him. 62, the backup center. Was he?
• 1:37:35
  Speaker 10: Meringes.
• 1:37:36
  Speaker 1: Yeah, he's a foreign player, yeah.
• 1:37:38
  Speaker 11: I really liked him in the game there, but I
• 1:37:41
  Speaker 11: didn't even know he was a foreign player. I just
• 1:37:43
  Speaker 11: like 62. Hicks, I'm surprised. I saw nothing there. But 84,
• 1:37:49
  Speaker 11: really love the fact that they got him back, Henderson, right?
• 1:37:52
  Speaker 1: Yep, Manuel Henderson Jr.
• 1:37:53
  Speaker 3: yep.
• 1:37:54
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 1:37:54
  Speaker 1: Hicks was war. He wore number one the other night, right?
• 1:37:57
  Speaker 3: Yes.
• 1:37:57
  Speaker 6: Yes. Yeah.
• 1:37:57
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:37:58
  Speaker 11: That, that, that, that was nothing there. So I think
• 1:38:00
  Speaker 11: it's a mix of mostly, you know, Finley.
• 1:38:03
  Speaker 3: Great.
• 1:38:03
  Speaker 6: Yep.
• 1:38:04
  Speaker 1: Um, and then, um, who's, uh, who's the, the defensive end? Uh,
• 1:38:09
  Speaker 1: they got Hubbard and Marvin Jones.
• 1:38:12
  Speaker 9: Yeah.
• 1:38:13
  Speaker 11: There's, there's one other model. No, Ed's got an outside linebacker.
• 1:38:18
  Speaker 11: You just mentioned.
• 1:38:20
  Speaker 1: Hang on, I'm banging through it.
• 1:38:21
  Speaker 3: Hang on.
• 1:38:22
  Speaker 1: Finley, Hooks, Hook, Aiden Hubbard, Marvin Jones Jr. Yeah, they
• 1:38:26
  Speaker 1: don't have an outside linebacker. Oh, all right.
• 1:38:30
  Speaker 8: All right.
• 1:38:30
  Speaker 1: Unless you're looking at Marvin Jones Jr.
• 1:38:33
  Speaker 2: No.
• 1:38:34
  Speaker 1: I didn't see much from him. Devin Eastern, I forgot
• 1:38:37
  Speaker 1: to mention him. So they keep the two D tackles,
• 1:38:39
  Speaker 1: Devin Eastern and Sam Mollo. You know what's interesting as
• 1:38:42
  Speaker 1: I look through this? It's all their guys. which, you know,
• 1:38:46
  Speaker 1: like a lot of times, this is like people poaching,
• 1:38:49
  Speaker 1: and it feels like Schneider likes to go get the corner,
• 1:38:51
  Speaker 1: like we mentioned, from the Chargers. But, yeah, it's all
• 1:38:53
  Speaker 1: their own guys that they brought back. And I think
• 1:38:56
  Speaker 1: all of their draft picks, right? Yeah, I think all
• 1:38:58
  Speaker 1: their draft picks, too. So, yeah.
• 1:39:02
  Speaker 8: Yeah.
• 1:39:03
  Speaker 1: Jared Ivey was a guy. Did they bring back Jared Ivey?
• 1:39:06
  Speaker 1: He got claimed today by Cleveland, I believe it was. Oh, okay. Yeah,
• 1:39:10
  Speaker 1: he got claimed. He was– An enigma, to say the least.
• 1:39:14
  Speaker 11: His best plays were out of sight, and his worst
• 1:39:19
  Speaker 11: plays were shocking. The gap between his best and his
• 1:39:25
  Speaker 11: worst was about as big as you'll ever see for
• 1:39:29
  Speaker 11: an August tape review. At any event, they're betting on
• 1:39:35
  Speaker 11: the come. That was an interesting study, Jared Ivey. Because
• 1:39:39
  Speaker 11: they thought that they had something there with him.
• 1:39:41
  Speaker 1: Yes.
• 1:39:42
  Speaker 11: But then watching him move in space, he looked so stiff.
• 1:39:46
  Speaker 11: And then when they tried him at the three technique,
• 1:39:49
  Speaker 11: he just stood up and it was like a traffic cone,
• 1:39:51
  Speaker 11: a large traffic cone. But then he had a play,
• 1:39:54
  Speaker 11: I think the first play of the game.
• 1:39:56
  Speaker 3: Yep.
• 1:39:56
  Speaker 1: Or the second play of the game. It might have
• 1:40:00
  Speaker 1: been first play of the game.
• 1:40:01
  Speaker 11: He brought some violence. The right guard for the Chiefs pulled.
• 1:40:05
  Speaker 11: And Ivy just literally bobblehead him. And you're like, oh, Lord.
• 1:40:12
  Speaker 11: And so the good and the bad. But anyways, that's
• 1:40:15
  Speaker 11: somebody else's enigma now.
• 1:40:18
  Speaker 1: Are you more at four with Softie today? I think
• 1:40:21
  Speaker 1: we're going at five. Five, more at five.
• 1:40:23
  Speaker 11: Yeah, we're going to give this.
• 1:40:25
  Speaker 1: scintillating segment, some breathing room. I love it.
• 1:40:28
  Speaker 3: I love it.
• 1:40:28
  Speaker 8: All right.
• 1:40:29
  Speaker 1: I will check with you later on, man. Thanks for
• 1:40:31
  Speaker 1: popping on today. I appreciate it.
• 1:40:32
  Speaker 3: There you go.
• 1:40:32
  Speaker 1: That's our good friend. That's our good friend, Hugh Millen,
• 1:40:35
  Speaker 1: joining us here on the Beacon Plumbing Hotline. All right.
• 1:40:37
  Speaker 1: We'll take a break.
• 1:40:38
  Speaker 10: Come back.
• 1:40:38
  Speaker 1: Your techs talk backs as well. We'll check those next.
• 1:40:40
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• 1:40:45
  Speaker 6: Now back to Ian Furness on your home for the Huskies, Kraken,
• 1:40:49
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• 1:40:56
  Speaker 1: I'm going to check something here as I look at
• 1:41:01
  Speaker 1: the text, 49451. I just went through this.
• 1:41:06
  Speaker 3: Where is it?
• 1:41:09
  Speaker 1: Ah, let's see here. Somebody asked a good question on
• 1:41:12
  Speaker 1: the text line, 49451. No D'Anthony Bell. I'm making sure
• 1:41:20
  Speaker 1: I didn't.
• 1:41:20
  Speaker 6: Nope.
• 1:41:22
  Speaker 1: Brown, Dansby Diggs, Eastern Finley.
• 1:41:24
  Speaker 10: A.J.
• 1:41:24
  Speaker 1: Finley, yes. Maxson Hook, yes. No D'Anthony Bell. Interesting. Good point.
• 1:41:33
  Speaker 1: Thank you, 49451. Also, no Cody White.
• 1:41:33
  Speaker 3: Right? Da-da-da.
• 1:41:41
  Speaker 1: Hmm.
• 1:41:43
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:41:43
  Speaker 1: Something to keep an eye on. Those are two guys
• 1:41:46
  Speaker 1: that I thought would be there. And I should have
• 1:41:50
  Speaker 1: mentioned that to Hugh. No Cody White, no D'Anthony Bell
• 1:41:54
  Speaker 1: on the practice squad as of right now. Interesting. Very,
• 1:41:59
  Speaker 1: very interesting. Okay. What do we got here? 4, 9, 4, 5, 1... Anders,
• 1:42:10
  Speaker 1: why is the YouTube camera out of focus?
• 1:42:12
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I actually noticed that when I was going on
• 1:42:14
  Speaker 5: my Mariners rant.
• 1:42:15
  Speaker 1: Is it your camera?
• 1:42:16
  Speaker 8: Yeah, it's mine.
• 1:42:17
  Speaker 5: Specifically mine. But I got it back. Should be good.
• 1:42:20
  Speaker 5: Sometimes it doesn't automatically focus, but I got it back.
• 1:42:24
  Speaker 5: We got some talkbacks, by the way.
• 1:42:25
  Speaker 1: Let's get a talkback in. Fire away.
• 1:42:27
  Speaker 3: Good afternoon, Ian. Hello. I'm here at the Toronto airport.
• 1:42:32
  Speaker 3: licking my wounds after a terrible weekend of traveling on
• 1:42:36
  Speaker 3: the road with the Mariners.
• 1:42:37
  Speaker 1: Wow.
• 1:42:39
  Speaker 3: Disgusting weekend. I was there Friday night, and I was
• 1:42:42
  Speaker 3: there yesterday. And both games were equally bad. And my
• 1:42:49
  Speaker 3: flight's delayed. So, more salt in the wound. Get me
• 1:42:53
  Speaker 3: home and get me a Seahawks football.
• 1:42:54
  Speaker 1: Hey, man, go find yourself a Tim Hortons, get a
• 1:42:58
  Speaker 1: Coffee Crisp candy bar. Maybe some poutine there. I don't know.
• 1:43:02
  Speaker 5: Staying in Canada longer than you have to.
• 1:43:06
  Speaker 1: Toronto's a great city, though, man. It's a good city.
• 1:43:09
  Speaker 1: But not if you went there to watch your local
• 1:43:11
  Speaker 1: baseball team and they got boat raced for three straight days.
• 1:43:15
  Speaker 1: What did we say? Twelve hits, four runs over three days.
• 1:43:18
  Speaker 5: Not one game.
• 1:43:20
  Speaker 1: Over three. Twelve and four. What else you got?
• 1:43:25
  Speaker 11: Hey, Ian.
• 1:43:25
  Speaker 2: The reason why we're so down on this team is, like,
• 1:43:29
  Speaker 2: it's one thing if they were bad and they were
• 1:43:31
  Speaker 2: fighting and scrapping and pulling their hair out and making
• 1:43:35
  Speaker 2: every effort to try and be better, even as a team.
• 1:43:37
  Speaker 2: But this team just seems like either they're goofing around
• 1:43:41
  Speaker 2: or they're hanging their heads, one or the other.
• 1:43:44
  Speaker 1: And the fire.
• 1:43:45
  Speaker 5: To win just doesn't seem to be there. And as fans,
• 1:43:49
  Speaker 5: if you're bad at least, try to win.
• 1:43:53
  Speaker 1: Can you play the first five seconds of that again, please? Hey, Ian.
• 1:43:58
  Speaker 1: There it was.
• 1:44:00
  Speaker 5: The Shockey sigh.
• 1:44:01
  Speaker 1: The Kevin Shockey Memorial Heavy sigh. Coming from a Mariner fan. Shocking.
• 1:44:05
  Speaker 8: Shockey.
• 1:44:06
  Speaker 1: Do we have any more?
• 1:44:06
  Speaker 13: Yeah, more.
• 1:44:07
  Speaker 1: All right.
• 1:44:09
  Speaker 12: Ian, I'm with Anders. Always have been. I love his
• 1:44:12
  Speaker 12: feeling of the Mariners. And Nathan, I do not want
• 1:44:17
  Speaker 12: this team to make the playoffs. I want serious change.
• 1:44:21
  Speaker 12: And if this team makes the playoffs, they're going to
• 1:44:23
  Speaker 12: keep everyone. It's the same old, same old. This team
• 1:44:28
  Speaker 12: needs serious change. And for that to happen, we need
• 1:44:32
  Speaker 12: to nosedive right out of the playoffs.
• 1:44:39
  Speaker 1: See, there's no guarantee that you're going to have changes.
• 1:44:41
  Speaker 5: That's what I say. The sad part about that is
• 1:44:43
  Speaker 5: that even if you lose, you might not make changes.
• 1:44:46
  Speaker 1: There's just no.
• 1:44:48
  Speaker 5: See, that's where the apathy is kicking in for me.
• 1:44:50
  Speaker 8: It's like.
• 1:44:51
  Speaker 5: Why hope for anything more? And also, why should I
• 1:44:54
  Speaker 5: care when it looks like the team doesn't care?
• 1:44:57
  Speaker 3: Right? Right.
• 1:44:58
  Speaker 1: No, that's totally it. Listen, we've said it all along.
• 1:45:04
  Speaker 1: We've said it all day. We're going to get into
• 1:45:05
  Speaker 1: this a little bit more tomorrow. It's just there's something seriously,
• 1:45:09
  Speaker 1: seriously broken.
• 1:45:10
  Speaker 6: You know?
• 1:45:11
  Speaker 1: And I'm not sure.
• 1:45:12
  Speaker 3: 3-6-0.
• 1:45:14
  Speaker 1: I'm expecting the M's to go on a winning streak. But,
• 1:45:16
  Speaker 1: of course, fall one game short. Front office will spin
• 1:45:18
  Speaker 1: it positively. And we all know it's complete BS.
• 1:45:21
  Speaker 6: See?
• 1:45:23
  Speaker 1: Here's the thing that would be a little bit scary, Anders,
• 1:45:29
  Speaker 1: because like you said, like the talkback, like we talked
• 1:45:33
  Speaker 1: about even on my walk, and Chris talked about on
• 1:45:35
  Speaker 1: my walk. For those who are thinking, well, I can
• 1:45:39
  Speaker 1: just root against them now because there will be a
• 1:45:41
  Speaker 1: change if you're in that crowd, I think there's no guarantee.
• 1:45:48
  Speaker 1: And then the worst thing that could happen is what
• 1:45:51
  Speaker 1: was just said. On that text, go on a run,
• 1:45:56
  Speaker 1: finish 81-81.
• 1:45:57
  Speaker 5: Miss the playoffs by a game or two.
• 1:46:00
  Speaker 1: Like you're two games out of the wild card and
• 1:46:02
  Speaker 1: one game behind the Astros. Hey, look at what you
• 1:46:06
  Speaker 1: did in August.
• 1:46:06
  Speaker 3: Great.
• 1:46:07
  Speaker 8: Great run.
• 1:46:07
  Speaker 1: Think about this. To get to what I just said,
• 1:46:10
  Speaker 1: to get the record I just said, 81-81, right? Yeah.
• 1:46:16
  Speaker 1: Let's see. They would have to go 17-18. Well, to
• 1:46:22
  Speaker 1: get to 81, just to get to 81 and 81,
• 1:46:25
  Speaker 1: that's hypothetical, not the 82. But to get to 500,
• 1:46:29
  Speaker 1: they'd have to go 17 and 7 the rest of
• 1:46:33
  Speaker 1: the way.
• 1:46:34
  Speaker 3: Right?
• 1:46:34
  Speaker 5: And that's the thing is, yes, that is the worst
• 1:46:37
  Speaker 5: case scenario.
• 1:46:38
  Speaker 1: 17 and 8. I'm sorry, 17 and 8.
• 1:46:39
  Speaker 5: This team isn't capable of doing that.
• 1:46:40
  Speaker 1: 17 and 8, yeah.
• 1:46:41
  Speaker 10: They're not.
• 1:46:42
  Speaker 1: No, no, no.
• 1:46:43
  Speaker 5: I don't care if Cal Raleigh's fixed.
• 1:46:45
  Speaker 1: Well, yeah.
• 1:46:47
  Speaker 6: Like.
• 1:46:48
  Speaker 5: You're starting rotations leaking oil, as Nathan said, and that's
• 1:46:52
  Speaker 5: a great description of it.
• 1:46:53
  Speaker 1: Let me read my man Nick Allen. By the way, Nick,
• 1:46:56
  Speaker 1: as always, I say thank you for what you do.
• 1:46:58
  Speaker 1: Thank you, my man. Ian, the past year I've been
• 1:47:01
  Speaker 1: squirreling away money for this past week when the M's
• 1:47:03
  Speaker 1: would release their Flex package for next year that would
• 1:47:05
  Speaker 1: include playoff tickets for this year. Now I'm going to
• 1:47:08
  Speaker 1: be hanging on to my money. My oldest asked if
• 1:47:10
  Speaker 1: we were going to go to a Mariners game this year,
• 1:47:11
  Speaker 1: maybe this Sunday, and I replied to him, why? This
• 1:47:15
  Speaker 1: will be the first time in over 20 years I
• 1:47:16
  Speaker 1: won't attend an M's game. Breaks my heart, Nick Allen. Nick, no.
• 1:47:25
  Speaker 1: The person sitting here in this seat, this particular host,
• 1:47:29
  Speaker 1: will never, ever, I never want to say don't go.
• 1:47:33
  Speaker 1: If you love going to the games, especially with your son, Nick,
• 1:47:35
  Speaker 1: just go. I mean, you don't get those days back.
• 1:47:41
  Speaker 3: That's true.
• 1:47:41
  Speaker 1: You just don't get those days back. I mean, you
• 1:47:42
  Speaker 1: went to the worst game of the year, one of them.
• 1:47:44
  Speaker 10: I did.
• 1:47:44
  Speaker 1: With your son.
• 1:47:45
  Speaker 5: It was his first Mariner game, and I wouldn't trade
• 1:47:47
  Speaker 5: it for anything.
• 1:47:48
  Speaker 1: Bingo. What was it? Was that the 22-0 game or
• 1:47:51
  Speaker 1: the 19-0 game? Who pitched?
• 1:47:54
  Speaker 5: Brian Wu.
• 1:47:55
  Speaker 6: No, no.
• 1:47:55
  Speaker 1: The home Brian Wu bad start. Yeah, but who pitched later?
• 1:47:58
  Speaker 1: Did you have a position player in that game?
• 1:48:00
  Speaker 3: Yes.
• 1:48:01
  Speaker 5: Was it Johnny Parada?
• 1:48:02
  Speaker 1: Oh, it was Parada. That was Parada's debut. Actually, no,
• 1:48:05
  Speaker 1: he pitched before.
• 1:48:06
  Speaker 3: He did.
• 1:48:07
  Speaker 5: The fact that we've had to remember which position player
• 1:48:11
  Speaker 5: pitched in that game is.
• 1:48:14
  Speaker 1: Was it Robles or Pareda, Anders?
• 1:48:16
  Speaker 5: Or Leo Rivas.
• 1:48:18
  Speaker 1: Well, he can't anymore because.
• 1:48:20
  Speaker 1: He's the blame for all things wrong. Let's just send
• 1:48:23
  Speaker 1: Rivas down. It must be his fault. Must be his fault.
• 1:48:27
  Speaker 1: Have you done the math? What would it take to
• 1:48:28
  Speaker 1: get to 54%? I think, like, almost. Hang on, I'll
• 1:48:34
  Speaker 1: find out. I'll tell you right now.
• 1:48:35
  Speaker 3: Hang on.
• 1:48:36
  Speaker 1: Because I'll just find something last year that was 54%.
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  Speaker 3: 89 wins.
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  Speaker 1: So 89 wins. 88 wins, I guess. 88 wins gets
• 1:48:44
  Speaker 1: you there.
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  Speaker 5: They would almost have to win every single game.
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  Speaker 3: Wow.
• 1:48:50
  Speaker 1: Yeah, they can't even reach 54.
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  Speaker 12: Damn.
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  Speaker 1: That's no good. Like I said, we're going to get
• 1:49:00
  Speaker 1: to the root of the problem. Not the root of
• 1:49:02
  Speaker 1: the problem. The emotions are just out of control right
• 1:49:05
  Speaker 1: now with these guys. There's just this... This anger, like
• 1:49:10
  Speaker 1: an absolute flat out, there's an anger with these guys.
• 1:49:14
  Speaker 1: It's crazy.
• 1:49:15
  Speaker 5: I'm not even angry. I'm just, I'm done. I'm just done.
• 1:49:19
  Speaker 1: Let me read a couple more here.
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  Speaker 3: 49451.
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  Speaker 1: Hey, Ian, what's the final date of the final imbibe,
• 1:49:25
  Speaker 1: final keg for the mayor? We're working on that. Should
• 1:49:27
  Speaker 1: be able to announce that later this week. As of
• 1:49:31
  Speaker 1: yesterday afternoon, there was a little bit of mayor left,
• 1:49:34
  Speaker 1: but I don't know if I'll double check. It's, I'm,
• 1:49:37
  Speaker 1: I'm assuming it'll be gone by, if it wasn't gone
• 1:49:39
  Speaker 1: last night, it's probably gone by now, but we'll find out.
• 1:49:41
  Speaker 1: But we will have a final keg at Imbibe in
• 1:49:43
  Speaker 1: Maple Valley. Also, somebody just texted, and this is an
• 1:49:46
  Speaker 1: interesting one.
• 1:49:47
  Speaker 6: Yes.
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  Speaker 1: Did I hear you correctly say that you can now
• 1:49:50
  Speaker 1: bet on Washington teams at Snoqualmie Casino? I think I
• 1:49:52
  Speaker 1: heard you say that, Ian.
• 1:49:54
  Speaker 3: I did.
• 1:49:55
  Speaker 1: You can now do that.
• 1:49:56
  Speaker 5: Wow.
• 1:49:57
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 1:49:58
  Speaker 1: What do you think at Snoqualmie the odds are on
• 1:50:01
  Speaker 1: the Apple Cup?
• 1:50:02
  Speaker 5: Like talking Moneyline or?
• 1:50:04
  Speaker 1: What's the spread here?
• 1:50:07
  Speaker 5: I'd say 16.5.
• 1:50:11
  Speaker 1: Let's see here. What'd you say?
• 1:50:13
  Speaker 5: 16.5?
• 1:50:15
  Speaker 1: I bet it's higher than that.
• 1:50:16
  Speaker 5: You think so?
• 1:50:16
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I do.
• 1:50:18
  Speaker 6: 20?
• 1:50:18
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it's... Let's see, it's the last game, right? Before...
• 1:50:25
  Speaker 1: That's crazy. What's cool? Scrolling through this. Okay. What'd you
• 1:50:30
  Speaker 1: guess it was?
• 1:50:31
  Speaker 5: 16.5.
• 1:50:32
  Speaker 1: 23 and a half. Wow. 23 and a half.
• 1:50:38
  Speaker 6: Wow.
• 1:50:38
  Speaker 1: Washington is a minus 2,200. Cougs are plus 1,050. God almighty. Really?
• 1:50:48
  Speaker 1: Over-under is 50 and a half. If I was to
• 1:50:52
  Speaker 1: do something and I've made it a habit of never
• 1:50:54
  Speaker 1: wagering on the Cougs one way or the other, even
• 1:50:56
  Speaker 1: in other places, now you can do it legally here.
• 1:50:59
  Speaker 1: I just don't do it, but yeah. That's not as
• 1:51:03
  Speaker 1: high a spread as I think I saw elsewhere. I
• 1:51:05
  Speaker 1: think it's like 31 nationwide. Remember here with our casinos,
• 1:51:10
  Speaker 1: if they have their own book, things will change. The Mariners'
• 1:51:14
  Speaker 1: odds are always different here than they are elsewhere. Stuff
• 1:51:17
  Speaker 1: like that. Seahawks, same way. But yes, you can do
• 1:51:20
  Speaker 1: all those things. All right, we'll take a break. Come back,
• 1:51:22
  Speaker 1: wrap it up. Appreciate the texter pointing out a couple
• 1:51:34
  Speaker 1: of guys that were not on that Seahawks practice squad.
• 1:51:37
  Speaker 1: Cody White, DeAnthony Bell. Big Nogginy is also not. That's interesting.
• 1:51:43
  Speaker 1: Three veterans.
• 1:51:44
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 1:51:44
  Speaker 1: I haven't seen those guys get picked up by anybody either.
• 1:51:47
  Speaker 1: Dave Sotomayor joins us right now. I think he is
• 1:51:51
  Speaker 1: at freaking Motlake, baby.
• 1:51:53
  Speaker 10: We are freaking Motlake, baby.
• 1:51:55
  Speaker 13: Staring at the beautiful Husky Stadium feel that will be
• 1:51:59
  Speaker 13: used for the Annual spanking of the Cougars on Sunday
• 1:52:03
  Speaker 13: at 1 o'clock in the Boeing Apple Cup.
• 1:52:05
  Speaker 10: And looking forward to seeing you here. Ian, I know
• 1:52:07
  Speaker 10: you're fired up for Sunday.
• 1:52:08
  Speaker 1: Can't wait.
• 1:52:09
  Speaker 13: Yeah, I know you'll be here sitting in your seats,
• 1:52:11
  Speaker 13: waving your crimson foam finger. Hey, why is the Cougar
• 1:52:14
  Speaker 13: marching band not coming out here? What's going on with that?
• 1:52:16
  Speaker 1: You guys did not allow them to come.
• 1:52:19
  Speaker 10: That's BS.
• 1:52:20
  Speaker 1: That's what they said. That's not true.
• 1:52:23
  Speaker 10: That is an absolute flat-out fallacy.
• 1:52:26
  Speaker 1: That's what I heard.
• 1:52:27
  Speaker 13: They were handed over 300 tickets for the game if
• 1:52:30
  Speaker 13: they needed them, and they.
• 1:52:31
  Speaker 10: Turned them down.
• 1:52:33
  Speaker 1: All I heard is that Washington didn't want him there.
• 1:52:35
  Speaker 1: And if that's wrong, and I'm being dead serious, Dave.
• 1:52:37
  Speaker 1: I'm dead serious.
• 1:52:38
  Speaker 10: No, I get it.
• 1:52:39
  Speaker 1: If that's wrong, then that's on them because the story
• 1:52:42
  Speaker 1: out there is that they were not allowed to come
• 1:52:45
  Speaker 1: or I don't know what it was.
• 1:52:46
  Speaker 10: Honestly, you know what?
• 1:52:48
  Speaker 1: Do I really care? No.
• 1:52:49
  Speaker 13: No, but, and look, I mean, I get this is
• 1:52:51
  Speaker 13: a sore subject for a lot of people. I'm not
• 1:52:53
  Speaker 13: trying to be a total smartass, maybe half a smartass.
• 1:52:56
  Speaker 1: It's Apple Cup week, you should be at least half
• 1:52:57
  Speaker 1: a smartass.
• 1:52:58
  Speaker 13: Why, in what world, why would UW not allow the
• 1:53:01
  Speaker 13: Cougar marching band to come to the Apple Cup?
• 1:53:03
  Speaker 1: I have no idea.
• 1:53:04
  Speaker 13: They've been to every Apple Cup for the last, how
• 1:53:06
  Speaker 13: many years? 50 years of my life?
• 1:53:08
  Speaker 1: Here's the thing that made no sense to me.
• 1:53:10
  Speaker 10: That's not true.
• 1:53:10
  Speaker 1: I know, just tell me what I heard. That's the
• 1:53:14
  Speaker 1: story going around, and then this is where people got all...
• 1:53:18
  Speaker 1: This is why... This is probably why the rivalry should continue,
• 1:53:20
  Speaker 1: because of the stupid and bitterness and all the stuff. Right?
• 1:53:26
  Speaker 1: All the things that make a rivalry good, you know? Like,
• 1:53:28
  Speaker 1: he did this, she did that. And one of the
• 1:53:31
  Speaker 1: things going around, which to me made no sense, and again,
• 1:53:34
  Speaker 1: if this is what I heard was erroneous, then somebody
• 1:53:38
  Speaker 1: better change that narrative soon. But the thing that was
• 1:53:41
  Speaker 1: strange is, what was it? Whatever year it was, four
• 1:53:44
  Speaker 1: or five years ago, when Washington had the issue with
• 1:53:47
  Speaker 1: the bus and the band, and they got in the
• 1:53:49
  Speaker 1: car accident, and Wazoo's band played their fight song and
• 1:53:52
  Speaker 1: learned the fight song. There's some goodwill there. It didn't
• 1:53:57
  Speaker 1: pass the sniff test, but that's all I heard, and
• 1:53:59
  Speaker 1: so if it's wrong... then somebody will correct me or
• 1:54:03
  Speaker 1: them or you or whatever, and away you go.
• 1:54:06
  Speaker 13: I was told by people on campus today they were
• 1:54:08
  Speaker 13: offered well over 300 tickets.
• 1:54:11
  Speaker 1: What are those tickets for? Are they for fans only?
• 1:54:15
  Speaker 1: For the game.
• 1:54:16
  Speaker 10: No, for the game. To perform in the stadium.
• 1:54:18
  Speaker 1: So it's basically specifically for the marching band. Those 300 tickets, okay.
• 1:54:23
  Speaker 13: Yeah, they'd be up in the upper deck where they
• 1:54:24
  Speaker 13: stick every marching band. Now, we can argue whether or
• 1:54:27
  Speaker 13: not they should be given better seats if you want
• 1:54:29
  Speaker 13: to fight about that.
• 1:54:29
  Speaker 10: That's fine.
• 1:54:30
  Speaker 1: Is that where the band always is for visitors?
• 1:54:32
  Speaker 10: That's where all the bands go. They all get stuck
• 1:54:34
  Speaker 10: in the corner.
• 1:54:35
  Speaker 1: Well, then there shouldn't have been an issue.
• 1:54:36
  Speaker 13: Because UW needs to sell the better seats to make
• 1:54:38
  Speaker 13: more money to pay for these ridiculous salaries.
• 1:54:41
  Speaker 1: That they got.
• 1:54:42
  Speaker 10: We got a quarterback making $ 4 million, dude.
• 1:54:44
  Speaker 1: I was thinking about that today, man.
• 1:54:46
  Speaker 10: Gotta make some money somewhere.
• 1:54:47
  Speaker 1: I was thinking about that today, that the amount of money.
• 1:54:51
  Speaker 1: God, I was pissed when Cam Ward was making like
• 1:54:55
  Speaker 1: a hundred, I had a package, not making, a package
• 1:54:59
  Speaker 1: worth about 110 grand. And I thought, this guy's not
• 1:55:02
  Speaker 1: living up to that.
• 1:55:04
  Speaker 10: Well, that's part of it, right?
• 1:55:05
  Speaker 1: You're paying a long time for that now. Well, that's
• 1:55:08
  Speaker 1: part of the whole thing.
• 1:55:09
  Speaker 10: Now you know what guys are making.
• 1:55:11
  Speaker 13: Part of the reason why for some fans at the
• 1:55:13
  Speaker 13: pro level it's easier to criticize athletes is because you
• 1:55:15
  Speaker 13: know what they're getting paid. We all know what they're
• 1:55:18
  Speaker 13: getting paid. Sooner or later, we might all know what
• 1:55:21
  Speaker 13: college athletes are getting paid. Guys like Pete Nakos are
• 1:55:24
  Speaker 13: putting stuff like that online all the time. We've known
• 1:55:27
  Speaker 13: what DeMond's number is ever since the LSU kerfuffle nine
• 1:55:32
  Speaker 13: months ago, but Yeah, I mean, there's more pressure on
• 1:55:35
  Speaker 13: these kids.
• 1:55:36
  Speaker 3: They're pros.
• 1:55:36
  Speaker 13: They're absolute professional athletes. They might be snooties, but they're
• 1:55:40
  Speaker 13: also pros. There's nothing amateur about it, man. So anyway,
• 1:55:44
  Speaker 13: we're here at Husky Stadium. Jed just had his press conference.
• 1:55:48
  Speaker 3: Ready to go.
• 1:55:49
  Speaker 13: Greatest setting in college football, so we're fired up for that.
• 1:55:52
  Speaker 13: Bill Kruger will join us. Hugh Millen will join us.
• 1:55:54
  Speaker 13: And then 6 p.m. tonight, the debut. She's done the
• 1:55:58
  Speaker 13: show before, but now she is hosting the show as
• 1:56:01
  Speaker 13: the grand poobah of Husky Football Radio. Elyse Woodward tonight
• 1:56:05
  Speaker 13: with Jed Fish from Eureka. Is that right, Elyse? Eureka
• 1:56:09
  Speaker 13: in the U Village with Damon Heward, I believe, will
• 1:56:11
  Speaker 13: be there as well. So it's going to be a
• 1:56:13
  Speaker 13: fun show. What's Eureka? Is that a restaurant?
• 1:56:16
  Speaker 10: It's a restaurant, correct. Okay, correct.
• 1:56:18
  Speaker 1: Eureka.
• 1:56:19
  Speaker 13: Right directly across from Joey, if you feel like swinging
• 1:56:23
  Speaker 13: over to say.
• 1:56:23
  Speaker 1: Hello to Eureka. Is Sark there? Is Sark and Joey there?
• 1:56:26
  Speaker 3: No.
• 1:56:26
  Speaker 10: Sark will not be there.
• 1:56:27
  Speaker 3: Oh, okay. All right.
• 1:56:28
  Speaker 1: I'll probably pass that. All right. Have a good show.
• 1:56:31
  Speaker 10: See you.
• 1:56:31
  Speaker 3: Bye.
• 1:56:32
  Speaker 6: For the mild-mannered and marginally objectionable Ian Furness, this is
• 1:56:36
  Speaker 6: Battle Day saying so long, everyone.