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- 0:00Yeah, all system's going clear the lift. We're live. We're live,
- 0:38so like and subscribe. What's up everyone? Tallet Tamboline here aka Totagg and
- 0:43Tambo back for our first official PGA show of the season over here on the
- 0:48ship Nation YouTube station. We got the Sony Open last week. A little
- 0:52bit more of a marketing breakdown. Let you guys all know all the good
- 0:55things we got going on over at ship Nation. When it comes to PGA,
- 0:58it's not gonna go away. It was a huge first week for our
- 1:00members. Tons of good stuff over there. You can check it out on
- 1:03x at ship at Nation. Follow us there. We do a ton of
- 1:07breakdowns, contests, congratulate our members, break it all down. But lots
- 1:10of good things going on to the Nation right now. And everyone keeps making
- 1:12fun of me for teasing everything. There's timelines, Hoop, there's timelines on
- 1:17things. We can't just say it all and blurt it out. We have
- 1:19to wait for things to happen and to play out. But there's gonna be
- 1:22some big things coming over to the Nation. Hoop. I'll bring you in
- 1:23man. What's going on? First show? We will get to talking some
- 1:26golf, but excited to be back man big season head. Yeah, certainly.
- 1:30And Week one started with the bang. I mean it was truly incredible
- 1:34the success that our members had. The content, you know, was on
- 1:38point, a lot of Chris Kirk stuff. I had Chris Kirk listed in
- 1:41my core. He is very, very highly ranked in our value rankings.
- 1:45We had the top values and our projections were pretty much on point with what
- 1:49you needed to ship the big GPPs. And you know, we saw the
- 1:53results obviously with some really big wins. We took down some seats one hundred
- 1:57thousand dollars win. There's ten thousand dollar wins in there, and that's what
- 2:01you love to see. And you know, we built this product, you
- 2:06know, with the hopes of having our members succeed and win money. And
- 2:10it happened week one and it's going to continue to happen all throughout the season
- 2:15as we continue to, you know, look to improve our product. As
- 2:17I always say, improve and add on is what we're all about. And
- 2:21you know, we continue to do that. So looking forward to this PGA
- 2:23season, and I do want to thank everybody out there for the overwhelming support
- 2:28last week, you know, giving us an opportunity to be their PGA content
- 2:31provider because I think you know, our expectations were blown out of the water
- 2:38last week. You and I you know, we talked about this package,
- 2:40these packages that we released, talked about a lot, a lot of work
- 2:45went into it on our end, on the back end with some of our
- 2:46other guys, and never thought, never thought it would take off like it
- 2:52did last week. So thanks again to everyone that you know gave us the
- 2:54chance to be their PGA content provider this season. Yeah, it's gonna be
- 2:59a big season. To have more on that in a little bit. Before
- 3:00we get into it, I want to let you guys know upfront, do
- 3:02us a favor smash that like button. As we always say, let's keep
- 3:06the subscribers going here free to subscribe to the YouTube channel. It's easy to
- 3:09do. When we get to six thousand, we'll do some more member giveaways.
- 3:13Speaking of member giveaways, we've got something to talk about for this week
- 3:15hoop. So we've got we had an anonymous member they didn't want to be
- 3:20named, but they gave us five hundred dollars worth of memberships to give away,
- 3:23so we gave away. So we've got some contest going with the Mayo
- 3:27show that I recorded earlier today. We've got some contest going beyond the scenes
- 3:30with that. So what we're gonna do today for that is one they want
- 3:35to give away to somebody random. So first off, it's gonna be one
- 3:38season long pass to PGA the entire season. We're gonna be giving you that
- 3:42our way on this show to somebody random here, so keep that in mind
- 3:45in the comments everything we got going on here. Then we're gonna give away
- 3:49one hundred and twenty dollars to join the Fantasy Golf World Championship to a member.
- 3:53So it's gonna be one hundred and twenty dollars to join that queue this
- 3:57week. They got all expensive. If it somehow sells out this week,
- 4:00we're gonna come up with a way to give that one away later on tonight
- 4:02in the discord. But that's gonna go to a member for that. And
- 4:05then our guy b Wald who's in the King of the Desert this week with
- 4:09myself and others excited for that round one of the King of the Desert to
- 4:13get down to Arizona, which will be down there anyway at the end of
- 4:15this month for the Waste Management Phoenix Opener I should say the start of next
- 4:18month with Degenerate seventy five his crew, the ship at Nation squad, a
- 4:21bunch of members people coming down to join us. Gonna have some fun stuff
- 4:25there for you guys. And Itiner are out probably next week to let you
- 4:28know where we'll be at. But we're gonna give away another monthly membership on
- 4:32behalf of b WALD, so lots of memberships to give away. Someone said,
- 4:36to win the membership, we have to count to ten faster than Tambo.
- 4:39Good luck. I don't know if you guys saw that clip. I
- 4:41think he has any sort of rhyme or poetry statement in there. It'll be
- 4:45good to go. Yeah, that's what I mean. The poem's going and
- 4:48we'll be all good when it comes to that. Shout up, everybody in
- 4:50the chat. I want to say, what's up to Sean? He says,
- 4:53course at rankings, continue to smash. Congrats to Sean. He was
- 4:57in the NHL street said he got his biggest hit ever for four figure score,
- 5:00so congrats to him. He was thanking Neids for some of the stuff
- 5:03he had up in the comments Boomer or in the content story Boomer for the
- 5:08projections lots of stuff going there. Our guy go collects of the course fit
- 5:11rankings or fire and then also Jordan Newan's won the Fantasy Golf World Championship seat
- 5:15last week. Hard tournament to get through. There's five five dollars to buy
- 5:19in. It's just crazy what you see with that so little bit of news.
- 5:24We'll get it out of the way right away first and then let you
- 5:26guys know what's going on. From there, we will move on to this
- 5:30tournament talking about the Sony Open. Bring this up here. We did add
- 5:32it to the top. If you're new or watching this on playback, it's
- 5:35very easy to find the PGA member options only you go to the site ship
- 5:40at nation dot com. You click in we have all access memberships. Not
- 5:43saying it go away from that. Those are actually better value for all the
- 5:46sports that you're going to get. But if you are just interested in PGA,
- 5:49the weekly is fourteen dollars, no discord access, keep that in mind.
- 5:54The monthly thirty four dollars, and the season one ninety nine. Before
- 5:59people go and hit it again too quickly, do you want to remind people
- 6:01of code PGA ten tem percent off your first monthly or season package. If
- 6:05you get teen percent off the month, it works out to around thirty dollars
- 6:10or a dollars or a dollar a day. If you get it off the
- 6:12season pass, it works out to one seventy nine. Right, these are
- 6:15the options here, it works out to one seventy nine, which is about
- 6:17five dollars per event. Last week, if you're wondering about projections, we
- 6:23talked about just East of the Puzzle, but other places charging six hundred dollars
- 6:26for PGA projections. These were our value plays. You can see a small
- 6:30break there. It's either under Luke List or under Rogers where Nick Hardy was.
- 6:33This is you can all go back, you know and see if but
- 6:35List Rogers and more Coawa and Akshay were the top point per dollar plays in
- 6:42our projections last week. You could see how they finished. I mean we
- 6:45teased it. Everybody scored big last week. But if you had more Cow
- 6:47at forty, which we knew he was a good play getting a guy like
- 6:50Batia for one hundred and twenty points at sixty two hundred and eight percent,
- 6:55beny On at nine percent one hundred and forty six points, the two sixty
- 6:59one and sixty two hundred dollars guys that scored one hundred and eight, one
- 7:00hundred and thirteen. I mean, that is just huge stuff there. You
- 7:03still get the course that comes free with it. So Hoop, here's the
- 7:08thing, right, we said this last week we were going to end it
- 7:11today. We have some giveaways that go with everybody that signed up from last
- 7:14week. You talked about the overwhelming support. The way it worked last week
- 7:17was anybody who signs up for a month will get in a random draw using
- 7:23code PGA ten or just in general and upgraded to the season pass. Somebody
- 7:28that signs up for the season pass from last week up to today will get
- 7:31in the draw and win their money back, so end up getting a season
- 7:34pass for free. We did the same thing for our regular, monthly,
- 7:38six month and annual. So with that in mind, Hoop, we did
- 7:42talk about this. We are going to extend it, as you saw on
- 7:45the website there for one more week, so there is one. We did
- 7:47it just like our launch when we first had it as one week only,
- 7:49but some of the stuff we kept on we will keep these prices for one
- 7:54more week. Then it goes to thirty nine or two thirty nine and our
- 7:58boy Vince came through. I told him about the deal today. He found
- 8:01out about shipping Nation. Interesting. Then he found out about the ship of
- 8:05Nation PGA only options blew his mind a little bit, and then knocked him
- 8:09out of the chair with PGA ten the code to get another ten percent off,
- 8:13So one seventy nine for the season, the best value in the entire
- 8:16industry. People are literally charging five hundred to six hundred dollars for the exact
- 8:20same thing. Hoop. I'll let you jump in anything else that you want
- 8:24to add now we can just got to find the equivalent, you know,
- 8:26one two three, picture of the guy seeing our competitors' prices that are double
- 8:31triple of what our prices are, because they're absolutely insane. Part of the
- 8:35reason we extended this is honestly, you know, I see what other people
- 8:39are charging for what I think is probably less of an overall product, and
- 8:43it makes me sick to my stomach. I'm not gonna lie about it.
- 8:45It's gross that people will charge that sort of money, four or five six
- 8:48hundred dollars for just golf only packages. That's absolutely insane. There's no secret
- 8:54sauce in terms of projections for PGA. We hammered it last week. We
- 8:56talked about it a ton on the show. Projections are one piece of the
- 9:00pie. So if you go to Spot in their churney that much for basically
- 9:03projections only, you're gonna get your ass ripped off a couple other things.
- 9:07And it's four hundred five hundred five fifty whatever it may be. Like,
- 9:11we're half the price of the industry and we offer way way more. So
- 9:16the reason we extended this to give people an opportunity to essentially not get ripped
- 9:20off and give them an opportunity to get the best what we're using a new
- 9:24term now, Right, it's not the cheapest price in the industry, the
- 9:28best value in the industry, right, is that what we're going with?
- 9:31Well, yeah, it's quite I said it to the Mayo. If there's
- 9:33an elevator pitch, it's the highest quality content at the most affordable price.
- 9:37You can do whatever you want. Even if you somehow think that stuff is
- 9:39better, that's fine. Is it three times better? I don't think so.
- 9:41We just showed it. We proved it on Week one. We've always
- 9:43been about what we say. We can't guarantee that you're going to win.
- 9:46Nobody can. All we can do is focus on what we do. And
- 9:48what I said to Mayo is the same thing. There's great data. Like
- 9:52I'm not even as aggressip super. It doesn't make me sick. It's whatever
- 9:54you can charge enever you want. I just think it's the worst buy for
- 9:58you as a consumer. It's for you coming out you need. The rake
- 10:01is high. It's hard to win. The more money you can have in
- 10:03your pocket to play dfs, the less you pay for content, but still
- 10:07get something good for it. We have high quality content and it's aimed at
- 10:11actually beating the tournaments that we're playing in and the people that were up against
- 10:13cash games, tournaments, top end players, pros, et cetera. That's
- 10:18what this stuff is focused on. The industry's not gonna like us because of
- 10:20that. That's fine, But at the end of the day, like Coop
- 10:22said, it's very affordable for high quality content, and we do. Like
- 10:28Andrew says, this is the thing he's talking about us. I don't mean
- 10:30I appreciate the comment, but saying they deliver what they say. They will
- 10:33always have a plan and stick to it. That's always been the key for
- 10:35making sure that you get what you pay for and then always trying to deliver
- 10:39even more. We do have a lot more stuff coming and real quick.
- 10:43My guy Courtney, he's always around, always supporting. Appreciate it. I'm
- 10:48gonna give away the b walled membership right out of the gate because Courtney's always
- 10:52coming back and always supporting. Courtney, reach out to me info at ship
- 10:56at nation dot com. We're gonna get you the first month for you for
- 10:58PGA I only set up for free. My man, We appreciate it.
- 11:01My man's looking good in that picture too. I know it's kind of small,
- 11:03but he's got the suit going. I mean he's looking real good.
- 11:07Dapper, Yeah, for sure. And this is a good question. Is
- 11:11NBA a separate package? Are we just started experimenting. We think PGA and
- 11:15NFL separate packages make the most sense long term. Do we get to something
- 11:20like this, Probably, but right now, again going up against the industry,
- 11:22pricing on that stuff is even more in some cases, or like again,
- 11:26just for what you're getting for the entire season, the all access you
- 11:28can still get it for around fifty nine dollars with the CODEPGA ten and that
- 11:33will get you every sport, including NBA and PGA, So if you were
- 11:35gonna play both, you'd want to get in on that option. Instead,
- 11:39you just simply go to that and one last note, speaking a bang for
- 11:41your bucket, just what you get. The other sites don't update their projections
- 11:46until Wednesday. We give you, guys an initial luck. Look, we
- 11:48won't go to them today, but we've got the projections and the ownership already
- 11:52in there. So anything else you want to add who before we get into
- 11:54this comment. This kind of goes to what we say here like pay less
- 11:58for content, play more contest, and that's you know what we're all about.
- 12:01I mean, you take the price tag of those other sites. I
- 12:03mean you're really gonna be, assuming you're on some sort of budget, you're
- 12:07gonna have less money to actually play in the contest. We want you in
- 12:11the contest with the ability to win more money opposed to you know, giving
- 12:15us that extra money. And what up to Jordan, he won the one
- 12:18of the first Fantasy Golf Championship seats of the year. Congrats to him.
- 12:22By the way, guys, if you don't want any of this stuff,
- 12:24you don't care if he want us to get on with it. There's time
- 12:26stamps. We'll go to it. But just to note this is real quick
- 12:30for you guys under PGA on the site, the value report is always free.
- 12:33Lee had Chris Kirk in here last week to set you guys up,
- 12:37so you can go to the value report right now. It's free. One
- 12:41last thing if you go back just to the main page. We updated this
- 12:43as well. If you also are not a member yet and you don't have
- 12:46access to all of our education courses, including the PGA one, we clipped
- 12:50it out and fixed it today. NFL is ending, so right now.
- 12:54If you don't want to put credit card information, sign up anything like that,
- 12:56that's fine. Go over to the site, put in your email only
- 13:01sign up. It'll send you an email to give you a free fifteen minute
- 13:03video. It's the basics and the generics of PGA Showdown. We get much
- 13:07more in depth obviously inside the course for other categories, but just wanted to
- 13:11keep that in mind for you guys. We'll switch it back to our normal
- 13:13overlay. Click it back over here. Hoop, let's talk about the Sony
- 13:16open Man. I'm sure more stuff will come up along the way as we
- 13:20get through it, but We're back to a cut event. We got a
- 13:24big field, one hundred and forty four guys. It's gonna be totally different
- 13:26from last week. Last week was super swingy. When you got some of
- 13:28you Day one, Speath is dead after whole three. Day four, he
- 13:33actually finishes in the three spot in third place, so it's like, you
- 13:37know, that's how those events go. This one, though, is a
- 13:39cut event, so it will matter the first couple of days. We're not
- 13:41gonna get into weather on this show. We will have more stuff covered in
- 13:46the discord. Our friend and partner Degenerate at seventy five does the best stream
- 13:50in the industry on Wednesday evenings. We're definitely gonna direct you guys there for
- 13:52the Wednesday evening show. My show with Mayo is already out, The show
- 13:56with Kenny is already out. This show is gonna cover a lot of other
- 13:58stuff for you guys, but I'll talk to you first. Who what's your
- 14:01thoughts on this event in general? Getting back to the full cut stuff here.
- 14:05Yeah, we got you covered all throughout the week with the podcast and
- 14:09the shows, and then you know, we're going to be Tuesday all season
- 14:11long. And then like we said, I want you to go tune into
- 14:13the Gend seventy five tomorrow for his show. You know, in terms of
- 14:18this event, you know, the one thing that definitely stands out, you
- 14:20know, pulling up the odds, there's not a clear clear favorite in the
- 14:24prices and DraftKings kind of you know, piggyback that notion the favorite on DK.
- 14:28I guess it's two guys. Aberg and Fits are sixteen to one,
- 14:31and we kind of look at the pricing. Top price is ten to five
- 14:35for Aberg hat and ten three Fitzpatrick ten two Thigala ten k. So the
- 14:39one thing that definitely stands out to me out of the gate in terms of
- 14:43this event is you're gonna be able to play these guys at the top pretty
- 14:46easily. You can probably pair a couple together, you know. I went
- 14:50through the six k range before the show. I think there are some viable
- 14:52guys down there. I mean, it's a pretty wide open event, relatively
- 14:56weak field, but it's it's almost like a balance. I don't know the
- 14:58best way I wanted to describe. I have like a balanced weak field.
- 15:01It's not a strong field, but there is a bunch of like mid tier
- 15:05guys. It's not a bunch of complete like shipballs that are terrible. It's
- 15:09like a balanced field. I guess you're getting a lot of the average tour
- 15:13golfers. I think when when we go through, we'll kind of talk about
- 15:16it. But the one thing that definitely stands out to me is the pricing.
- 15:18Ten to five being the top price, and a lot of guys kind
- 15:20of in this middle tier that are appealing you come down to the six k
- 15:24range. I do think there are some options here, so I you know,
- 15:26I don't I'm excited obviously to dig into this and go kind of tier
- 15:31by tier and through it too. You can find but yeah, you know,
- 15:35cheap, you know balance ten to five is the top price. Is
- 15:37one thing that definitely stands out to me. Yeah, congrats again to Courtney
- 15:41again reach out info at ship at nation dot com gets you that first month
- 15:45set up. Thanks to our guy b Walled for passing it along. Good
- 15:48luck to him in the King of the Desert this week round one. Yeah,
- 15:50you said it best here. I mean, obviously this is also the
- 15:52other thing that's going to be talked about is the course history and how quote
- 15:56unquote sticky it is as it's said everywhere, and then on top of it,
- 15:58the fact that the people that played last week coming over, Chris Kirk
- 16:03winning last week now hopping over. We'll go there and go from there.
- 16:06But the one thing you did say, Hooped that stood out to me was
- 16:08really that you talked about using multiple guys up top when Mayo and I did
- 16:12the show, because we did it earlier this week and had to look at
- 16:15it there, it looks like a lot more people would just be happy to
- 16:18go with a balanced roster here like end in the seventy five hundred and up
- 16:22range. And the way you can do that is if you get a couple
- 16:25nine k guys or something like that. So I think that is one thing
- 16:27to note. Ludwig, by the way, and someone you know just commented
- 16:30on this in the chat. I didn't want to bring this up all the
- 16:33talk this week. I mean, Rose went twelve under on Sunday bogie free,
- 16:37including leaving a par five out there. He left one of the par
- 16:40fives where he didn't actually score on it. So you go look at Ludwig.
- 16:44He was ten under. Thigala was ten under bogie free on Sunday.
- 16:48Ludwig was ten under bogie free on Sunday. Brian Harmon was nine under with
- 16:52a bogie, but he made a couple of eagles and was hot with the
- 16:55putters. So lots of guys are bringing over those good Sunday rounds, but
- 16:57there's some guys that we can get back here. So is there any sort
- 17:00of other stats or things like that that you want to bring up or touch
- 17:04on before we've got the course fit rankings already up on the site, the
- 17:07first run of the projections that we can keep in mind, But anything else
- 17:11you want to bring up before we go tier by tier as we always do.
- 17:14Yeah, I just kind of started looking at some ownership projection that it
- 17:17looks like we see stuff pretty spread out. You know, I don't see
- 17:21anyone getting extreme ownership. I don't see anyone getting into like the thirty percent
- 17:25range. I think we see ownership spread out, which means, you know,
- 17:27in terms of roster construction and what we can do, it's going to
- 17:30be easy to get overweight on our guys. That's one thing that immediately stands
- 17:33out now that I look at this, I'm not seeing my Are you seeing
- 17:37anyone that could get like super popular because I'm not no. Well, I
- 17:41mean there's a couple spots that I do wonder about, like we looked at
- 17:45today here, Like one I thought for the week that we'll see just based
- 17:47on projections and stuff is Andrew Putnam seventy five hundred. I think as the
- 17:51week goes on, he'll get a little bit of love. But Spenson is
- 17:53right there. I guess the more I look at him, he looks like
- 17:56he could pop Brendan Todd. It's almost all those seven K guys up top.
- 17:59Though it looks like to your point like Aberg or ober ober Obert Oberg,
- 18:04I forget now were today, But Ludwig, as I like to say,
- 18:07or La, he's going to be around twenty to twenty two. Right
- 18:11now is the early initial for us, and then the real stuff starts in
- 18:15like the nine K when we get there like Connors Henley, where where did
- 18:18they come in at? Benny Ann When you go down a little bit more,
- 18:22Iceberg might be a good name. I like that our guy DJ and
- 18:25calls him Iceberg. Makes it a lot easier. But Stenson and those guys
- 18:27down load the ones up top, like you were asking about, though it
- 18:30looks pretty spread out besides ludvig our guy Iceberg, as we're gonna now call
- 18:33him, so, yeah, yeah, go ahead, you can turn that
- 18:37range. Who do you like up there? Yeah? I like I like
- 18:41the name LA. I think that's easy. You know, just two letters,
- 18:44boom boom, you're done in and out, and that's the one I
- 18:45like. I mean, it wasn't great obviously last week finished what forty seventh
- 18:51in that event, but did fire the sixty three in in round four.
- 18:56Wrote him in the swing season. He was a big part of what we
- 19:00did in the swing season. A lot of success in the swing season.
- 19:02Playing last week, you know, wasn't great. I think he bounces back
- 19:04here in what is a little more of a weaker field type event, so
- 19:08I'm going to be in on him hatting at ten to three. You know,
- 19:12this is one of these weeks where like you can temper your expectations a
- 19:15little bit with these guys up top, because it's not a week where you
- 19:18say, oh, you know, if I play a guy up here,
- 19:19he has to you know, I don't like when people say that in general,
- 19:22but he has to finish at least fifth place to pay it off.
- 19:26Like at these price tags, these guys have a lot of flexibility, and
- 19:27what's more important is what the guys do around him, which is a point
- 19:30that you always make, which is so important. It's not like saying,
- 19:33all right, if I pay this price tag, I need my guy to
- 19:36finish here. It's like, if I pay this price tag, what did
- 19:38the guys around him? Do you know? It's not necessarily what that guy
- 19:41does, so kind of on exposure to most of these guys Aberg Hatton Fitzpatrick,
- 19:47I do think there's a drop off to that next tier, which we'll
- 19:49talk about in the nine case, and then Figala is looking like the one
- 19:52that will come in way lower than everyone else, not much ownership. It's
- 19:59looking what probably ten to fifteen type range. Just always a good GPP type
- 20:03play, a lot of boom bust type stuff out of him. That's why
- 20:07when we do the Showdown stuff, he's always a guy featured in Showdown Showdown
- 20:11content because he has the ability to go really really low or has his ability
- 20:15to kind of blow up, I mean, perfect GPP type play most weeks,
- 20:18and then for Showdown we like targeting for that same reason. So I'm
- 20:22gonna probably get exposure to all these guys. But I mean, you know,
- 20:26La is my favorite up top. Yeah, a couple of good comments
- 20:30here. I mean, Hockey's talking about some guys they're on or off,
- 20:33and a ten K three eight k's and a seven that would probably be or
- 20:38I don't. I guess it's gonna be one ten K, three eight k's
- 20:42and one. You have to have more than that. But either way,
- 20:44my point was like breaking it down three ak's, if you did that with
- 20:47a ten k, might be different. This week is the nine k range.
- 20:49There's gonna be a ton of fomo up there with the Connors, Henley's,
- 20:52Kirks, et cetera. When we get there. You know, Ross
- 20:55says, seems like a harmon kind of course, and then you know this
- 20:59is a good point. Go collect. Our guy brings up again. Is
- 21:02in weaker fields. His price was eighty seven hundred last week with Scheffler,
- 21:06Zander Can't Lay, etc. We all loved him. Yes, he went
- 21:10up eighteen hundred dollars, but going against a much weaker field, like Hoop
- 21:12said, even you want to call it a mid tier field or a midweek
- 21:15field, whatever you want to call it, it's doesn't really matter. I
- 21:18think he's still much better than all the other stuff that's around him. So
- 21:22I don't know, I don't necessarily feel as much like I'm gonna get suckered
- 21:25in as Roth mentions. I get it, but I'm saying, as much
- 21:27as you know, it would still make sense. The only thing I worry
- 21:30about is that if people have the money to spend, like you can get
- 21:33easily spend here. So what ends up happening by the end of the week.
- 21:36People just come around to that and they're like, uhh, I'll just
- 21:38play him and eventually Ludwig becomes a little bit over owned o Bear. Yet
- 21:42that's another one. Yeah, you can pop that name in there, But
- 21:47was the other guy? Like, I guess where the leverage looks like it
- 21:49lies right now though, is gonna probably be on Harmon, who's not quite
- 21:52in this range at ninety nine hundred and Fitzpatrick. Because the one thing I
- 21:56will say about the weather factor, which we're not talking about now, that'll
- 22:00be tomorrow night. Our guy Degenerate seventy five has his show he breaks down
- 22:03the weather. He is hashtag not a four as he likes to say,
- 22:06so he will have all the weather broken down for you but I do think
- 22:08it is interesting. Like Mayo brought this point up today, and it makes
- 22:11sense. Is you don't really want Matt Fitzpatrick necessarily if it's gonna be like
- 22:15twenty two to twenty three under. But if the rain comes in like it
- 22:18could and all that stuff, it would be a little bit more grinder esque.
- 22:22And also he can find the fairway, he can get it up to
- 22:25the greens, he can make his powers move on. If it's like eleven
- 22:27or twelve under, then that would be a better spot for a guy like
- 22:30Fitzpatrick. So actually your pool could change a little bit this week depending on
- 22:33how weather shakes out. I don't hate that call either, so I'll wait
- 22:37and see how it goes as the week goes on. But right now,
- 22:40it looks pretty clear that Ludwig and probably Hatton are the guys that get the
- 22:45most steam. Fitzpatrick, Thigala stay underneath. The one thing I'll say on
- 22:48Thigala hoop, I'm not sure if you have more to add. If not,
- 22:51you can just take it into the nine K range. Is that Thigala
- 22:53is? You know? The narrative? I guess is last week the course
- 22:56was wide open. He could spray it, blah blah bla. People say
- 23:00there's no way he can do that this week. But it's not like this
- 23:03guy's not a you know, long drive bomber. That's like spraying out of
- 23:06bounds twenty four to seven. It's just he's not hitting the fairway as often.
- 23:08Here. You can still get away with not hitting the fairway if the
- 23:11conditions stay good. It's not like he's completely out of control. Obviously that
- 23:15would hurt him, but it is a chance that he just keeps riding that
- 23:18momentum. And then the chat's talking about the the Fitzy already fluster because they
- 23:22lost his bag and now he got it into a soaking wet never care about
- 23:26that stuff ever. These are pro golfers, Like I have buddies that are
- 23:29good at golf. I don't go very off that. I told the Discord
- 23:32this the other day. But man, they'll go out with like whatever rental
- 23:33clubs and still shoot their seventy four or seventy five or whatever. It's like
- 23:38they still crush and they're not pros Imagine a pro. We watched Chris Kirk
- 23:42talking about playing left handed last week, like it doesn't matter about not getting
- 23:45your clubs on a Tuesday at the tournament that that does not matter at all.
- 23:49Go ahead, Yeah, yeah, I agree. In terms of this
- 23:52like nine K range, it gets a little more difficult because then now you're
- 23:55starting to see guys that look, you know, maybe a little more overpriced,
- 23:57or guys that got a big pricing cree from last week coming in to
- 24:02this week. Brian Harmon at nine point nine k, I mean he's just
- 24:06playing solid golf. I kind of like him in this range at nine to
- 24:08nine again, everyone seems to be getting kind of similar ownership. It looks
- 24:14like fifteen to twentieth range for a guy like Harmon. Fine with him.
- 24:18Corey Connors not great last week, but you know he was sixty nine,
- 24:23seventy, sixty eight, sixty seven. He's pretty steady. I don't know
- 24:26how much of him I'll get. Eric Coles a guy just want to be
- 24:30on to kind of start this season like he's a guy that I want to
- 24:33play more times than not. And at ninety seven hundred, maybe people are
- 24:37like, all right, I'm not paying that price tag for him. I'm
- 24:41interested. There not a ton for a guy. Chris Kirk. I mean
- 24:45I was on him a lot last week. But I like Chris Kirk when
- 24:48he's cheap, not when he's like ninety five hundred coming off of win.
- 24:49So I think that's a spot we're all kind of get away from him a
- 24:52little bit. In the past, though, you know, we'd always see
- 24:56it where the guy that won the previous week comes in, they're automatically going
- 24:59to get ownership. A lot of times now that's not the case. It's
- 25:02like opposite. When a guy gets to win, people just fully avoid.
- 25:04If Kirk the ownership starts tanking coming way down, then maybe it's a spot
- 25:10to look to. But as of now, like I'm gonna be off of
- 25:11off of Kirky Xela Taurus, you know, I just gotta wait and see.
- 25:15You know, at some point he's gonna turn it on this season,
- 25:18I'm sure, but you know, ninety three hundred, I'll wait and see
- 25:22on him. JT posting a guy that I typically like playing coming off the
- 25:26fifth last week, I will get exposure to him as well. And then
- 25:30Maziama just man, I don't know, it's like he's the guy he looked
- 25:33back like the last couple of seasons. How many times has he burned you?
- 25:37If you faded him and it's just not very often, so probably off
- 25:41him. So guys I'm liking here, Harmon, Cole and Post them would
- 25:45be my three favorites in this nine k range, which is incredible because you
- 25:48know everybody else likes is Connor's who you just went to. The two guys
- 25:52right around. I'm like, talk about an interesting way to start a lineup.
- 25:55Just go Harmon and Cole. One guy won the Valero Texas Open and
- 25:59Corey Connor's last he's in for a second time. The other guy in Harmon
- 26:02won the Open, the Literal Open for a major championship with a Claire jug
- 26:06and now doesn't look like he'll have the same ownership or near it as Cotters,
- 26:10especially as you get into the higher stakes, smaller field. So I
- 26:12think that was one angle I was looking at. I mean, definitely he
- 26:15pops for that reason. Cole has just been good all swing season long,
- 26:19really good. Played again last week, which is what the important thing is.
- 26:22It actually doesn't even really matter about your result from last week as much
- 26:25as just carrying over to what it is to beat actually that you played it
- 26:27and then come into this event and he finished in fourteenth. Still so he
- 26:30was fine. Henley to me still looks good even at ownership, Like he
- 26:36just still pops off the page and that's fine. Just look for ways to
- 26:38get different with him. I do want to talk about the Zalad touris thing
- 26:41though. For a quick second, someone said, why all the love.
- 26:44I actually don't think there is all the love we talked about on the Mayo
- 26:45Show earlier. What I see happening is most people are thinking he's five or
- 26:49six percent. I'm saying I think to by the end of the week we
- 26:52could see seven to ten percent. But the bigger issue is this And I've
- 26:56literally hated on this guy in the past and said it. I did not
- 26:59bet him, ever, I didn't like him at Birdie Fest, all of
- 27:02these things. But the price dictates a lot, and then the fact of
- 27:04ownership. In this range, everyone is acting like Will's Alataurus had back surgery
- 27:10last week or something and is coming into play this week. They're oh,
- 27:12but you know it's first time back he played. Yeah, I mean the
- 27:17last time he played is it wasn't good. And I think people still have
- 27:19them in their head and that was a while ago. To your point,
- 27:22it wasn't resent yeah, but I mean like even that event, it was
- 27:25a month ago, and he had two rounds that were good and two rounds
- 27:27that were horrible. So it's in Before that there was like stuff about him
- 27:30playing all the time and posting course records at local courses. That doesn't mean
- 27:34anything for playing in the pros, but we're talking about a pros pro.
- 27:37I love shit. I love stuff like that. Oh he went to the
- 27:41city municipal course and shot sixty one, Okay, who gives a crap.
- 27:45I don't care about it in general. I'm saying more of the the idea
- 27:48of like it's like the people think that the guy just falls apart or something.
- 27:51If if he's gonna come in at seven to ten percent, I'm gonna
- 27:53play him in tournaments. It's not for everybody. I talked through it with
- 27:56Mayo. I kind of prefer I liked like him and my but like you
- 28:00said, Matsiyama just gets tricky, and I think people still end up going
- 28:03there. So the more I looked at it, I would rather take my
- 28:04shots on Willie Z, who I think is now I can count and I
- 28:08wasn't on it at man, he's the tenth price guy in this field,
- 28:11and I think he's one of the top three talents in this field. We
- 28:15just don't know how healthy is. But you'll never know in golf, you'll
- 28:18very rarely know, So I'll take my chances. It's not like he's fully
- 28:21injured right now. We're worried about a shoulder injury or a neck injury from
- 28:25last week or something like that. So I'm more than okay with him here
- 28:29and then just going down from there, I don't know, sorry, just
- 28:30going up from there. I don't see too much else from the guys that
- 28:33I already mentioned. I do kind of like how you like Harman Cole and
- 28:37Postin as opposed to everyone else likes Connors, Henley and Kirk. The Kirk
- 28:41thing, he will still get ownership usually winners in the past. You don't
- 28:44see it, but everyone's saying the same thing. Obviously, he struggled with
- 28:47alcohol. Everyone knows Chris Kirk's story by now. If they don't, he
- 28:49got sober bounce back. He's already had some good success since then. Awesome
- 28:53to see for him to just turn his stuff around and get back and now
- 28:56get back to the winner circle. I make the case I don't think guy
- 29:00It doesn't even matter when guys that win that do drink party because who gives
- 29:03a shit? Like it's you know, I'm old that I feel it hurts
- 29:07me a little bit more the next day after drinking pretty heavy. But I'm
- 29:10pretty good. But if it's Sunday night, Monday, I'm feeling it.
- 29:14Thursday, I'm probably pretty good to do my job. Probably Tuesday. To
- 29:15be honest, I'm good to do my job. These guys are fine,
- 29:18but obviously that's not him. He's not going out there and doing that.
- 29:21So congrats again to Chris Kirk on the wind. Awesome to see, but
- 29:23just a note like I do think people are hopping back in the mix,
- 29:26and rightfully so. He's played very well at this course. He won last
- 29:30week, he played last week to win, so it's like everything does line
- 29:33up in his favor. Let's move on. Let's go to this eight K
- 29:37range. We got Hadwin and Bradley up to Benny Ann and there's guys in
- 29:41this range and Kim Davis McCarthy English showed some life last week Rose last week
- 29:47twelve under bogie free Round of the Day on Sundays, So what are we
- 29:49doing here in this eight k range. Who what do you like? Yeah,
- 29:52pretty small range, Like how many golfers do we have here? One,
- 29:56two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight or
- 29:59nine golfers this range? So it's a small range. In general, it's
- 30:02typically a spot where we have more, uh, you know, golfers to
- 30:04choose from. Beniano was playing a lot of last season, and yeah,
- 30:08he played golf ball last year and a lot of high end finishes, which
- 30:11is what you want. The price tag at eighty seven not super comfortable,
- 30:15but totally fine going to guy like him. Cameron Davis, you know,
- 30:18just laid a complete egg right out of the gate. Shot what he shoot?
- 30:22Seventy five in round one? Sixty eight, seventy three, sixty five,
- 30:26kind of all over the map. I mean, his ownership I'm assuming
- 30:29comes in relatively low, so it's looking ten, I don't know, eleven,
- 30:33twelve, thirteen, fourteen, somewhere in that range. I'm fine getting
- 30:36a little bit of him. He does have the high end finish upside that
- 30:40we want. Mess mentioned Harris English. Yeah, I'm gonna play Harris English
- 30:44eighty three hundred a guy. You know, what are the two seasons ago
- 30:45where he was right up their top ten golfer essentially top fifteen. Maybe injuries
- 30:52and whatnot kind of held him back. Good to go to him at eighty
- 30:56three. I'm not going to be on Ros at the eight to two yager
- 31:00in Keegan Bradley at the bottom, though, do interest me? I like
- 31:02Keegan a lot at AK. I just think again, he's one of these
- 31:04guys that could easily be in the nine K range. I know he did
- 31:07not golf well last week, I mean where he finished forty fifth, But
- 31:12to me, Keegan Bradley is in this field is better than an eight K
- 31:15guy. So I'm going to be in on him. On English Bradley will
- 31:22be my three favorites in this AK range. Yeah one don't just so Rose.
- 31:26The conversation is around obviously last week's Sunday round. Last year we saw
- 31:30a lot of guys have these good Sunday rounds bring it into the next week.
- 31:33I get that he did finish second year when he played it way back
- 31:36when, so I mean, who cares, it's one result years ago.
- 31:38But just to note to Keigan Bradley played last week again, it's not really
- 31:42about the result last week. From what we've seen in the passage. Just
- 31:45who was there and played, but really boom bust at this tournament. I
- 31:48don't hate that because you're paying eight thousand for him here and look at it
- 31:52miss cut twelve, miscut twelve, twenty ninth. I mean when he's played
- 31:56at the last X amount of years, the last five, those are his
- 32:00results. But you kind of want that, right, and an eight K
- 32:01guy in your tournaments if people are going to be off of him, and
- 32:04we know that he can finish top twelve, it's like that. There's nothing
- 32:07wrong with that at eight k, So I don't hate that call. Right
- 32:09down there at the bottom. The whole Tambo counting to ten thing was on
- 32:14this guy, Steven Yager. By the way, eighty one hundred less than
- 32:17average price. I did the math wrong on that little clip you guys saw
- 32:21on my account over there on X at totag and tambo. You can check
- 32:23it there. Tidbits will be out tomorrow, by the way, first week
- 32:27back for that, So excited to bring those back. But Steven Yager thirty
- 32:30of his last thirty two cuts he's made. So if you want a cut
- 32:34maker and somehow you land there, you can feel safe with it. But
- 32:37the upside probably lacks compared to a guy like Bradley, who we've seen win
- 32:40multiple tournaments, show up in the mix at this tournament two times twelveth in
- 32:44the last four years. Like, that's kind of how you want to look
- 32:46at that position. So I would still lean Keegan Bradley, even though it
- 32:50pains me because I love my guy Yagger McCarthy. You want someone can get
- 32:52a hot putter, it could be him, I still have interesting could be
- 32:57him. Speaking of him, It could be Sewu Kim winner here last year,
- 33:00really good play. And someone brought it up yesterday that I kind of
- 33:04just leaned on this and thought about it was if you look last week,
- 33:07my guy Sungjay is completely back. He set the record for birdies in that
- 33:10tournament. See Wu had a really good week. Still twenty under, top
- 33:14twenty five. I know it's still only a fifty nine man field, but
- 33:16he could have done a lot more if you go back and look at the
- 33:19stats and whatnot. He didn't. That's okay, But at eighty six hundred
- 33:22repeat, I know he's probably not gonna repeat winning from last season, but
- 33:25eighty six hundred, and the main thing was in the offseason, him and
- 33:30m keep using these rhymes went to the Asian Games and won the gold medal.
- 33:36They've alleviated themselves of having to do their military service, which was always
- 33:39a major pressure pain point on these guys going out. If you remember last
- 33:44year, I mean Sjay always played a lot of events, but see Wu,
- 33:46same thing last year was just collecting start after start after start. Had
- 33:50a pretty good season. But that has to alleviate a lot from the pressure
- 33:53on those guys. So I like going back to the well on Sea Wu.
- 33:57I prefer Sea Woo over Benny in here, even though now early first
- 34:00ownership projections are showing Benny to get a little bit more love because of how
- 34:05good he did last week. And you could play them both. You're allowed
- 34:07to play two guys. You're allowed to play six guys actually, so you
- 34:08could play both of those guys together. Anything else in this a K range
- 34:13you want to touch on? If not, let's go into the seven k's,
- 34:15but thirty five or so guys who let's stick seventy five hundred up with
- 34:20Andrew Putnam all the way up to Alex Nord. Yeah, balance build starting
- 34:24with Benny on and Sebou Kim eighty one, seventy five for the last four
- 34:29spot, so you don't even need to really go down. You can do
- 34:30a balance build. I don't necessarily hate that seven k range. Obviously,
- 34:36there are a ton of guys here. I'm going to talk about the ones
- 34:37that stand out to me a little bit. Batia at seventy eight hundred played
- 34:43pretty well last week fourteen tied for fourteenth. He's a guy that I think
- 34:46has a chance to kind of turn the corner a little bit this season.
- 34:50A guy that I want to be on. There's someone I t Eric Cole.
- 34:52I'll talk about Eric Cole. I want to be on Eric Cole more
- 34:54times than not. Patilla, you know, I think is a guy that
- 34:58I want to play in most of these events to start the season. Luke
- 35:05List at seventy six, you know, appears to kind of a found someone.
- 35:08Obviously he's much cheaper last week, but you know that was a no
- 35:12cut event with all the previous season winners. You're paying a little bit of
- 35:15a premium at the seventy six hundred, but fine with him. Keith Mitchell
- 35:22at seventy five kind of boombust. I think there's some upside definitely built in
- 35:25there, so I have interest in him, my guy Spenson. You know,
- 35:30I always talk about Spence and I like playing him, but man,
- 35:31I just like him when he's like cheap. I don't really want to be
- 35:35the beyond him at seventy seven hundred in this sort of field, So probably
- 35:38out on him and then just circle back to the top. I think Norn
- 35:43is a guy at seventy nine that we can take a look at. So
- 35:45Norrin Betilla, List Keith Mitchell are the guys that I'm looking at in this
- 35:51upper seven K range. Folks, I think we've turned Hoop into a GVP
- 35:55bro, like he's going off all the chalk everywhere. People love Spencing this
- 36:00week, Coocher, Glover maybe some others, and you're just all over these
- 36:05other guys that are gonna go. I I haven't. I never I haven't
- 36:07gotten into the Coucher stuff, like I get it, and he played well
- 36:10kind of last season, but I haven't really been playing him. And then
- 36:14Glover are the same, like I just I don't know, like he had
- 36:16that great run to end the season last year, but I don't know.
- 36:20I'm off of him. Yeah, a little older those guys too, so
- 36:22you never know if it ever just falls off. We'll get to some older
- 36:24guys later that people know that are really popping this week and our course swit
- 36:29rankings. Just a little teaser there, but like if you look Coocher whatever,
- 36:32But the main thing here is, you know he's one year before seventh.
- 36:35The last two years he plays well at some of the comp courses.
- 36:38You can see where he could pop in. So I like Coocher still.
- 36:42I think he's fine, but if he keeps getting more and more ownership,
- 36:45it will become more challenging because, like who've said, there is plenty of
- 36:47guys around him that then wouldn't be getting the ownership that I think could pop
- 36:51just as much. And you go back to another guy. If I can't
- 36:53play my guy Yager as heavy this week, why not play my other guy
- 36:58Aaron? Right, I will wait and see them, because I do.
- 37:00I don't really love Rye. If it's gonna be the weather's fine and it's
- 37:02not a big deal and all that stuff, Like we've seen him, you
- 37:06know, it's all about how he gets started. We talk, it's got
- 37:10to be dry. I like, I do like that actually if that's the
- 37:13case, because then we'd find it around the setup for him, But I
- 37:15think in general, you and I talked about this last year. When Rye
- 37:19starts out strong and gets hot, that's where we see it pick up over
- 37:22the weekend. So I will rather take a shot on that. Somebody said,
- 37:25I think it was our same guy a hockey experience. I don't want
- 37:28to say pick that's the argument against Steven Yeager. It's great, you're good
- 37:32there, and that's true. He fixed your Rye joke. It has to
- 37:36be wet. That's why it has two gloves. It would be better if
- 37:39it's wet too, because I think that's where again, when people get into
- 37:42that rough and they're missing more fair ways and it gets a little thicker and
- 37:45heavier and it's tougher that way if the scoring is gonna be higher. So
- 37:49if it's twelve fifteen under range, that's where I would prefer ry versus like
- 37:52twenty two to twenty four under. But either way, again we'll know that
- 37:55stuff come closer again. Remember guys, Hawaii event again. Later start Thursday.
- 38:00You have your Thursday tinker time in the morning will be in the discord
- 38:04as everybody first off tinkers off the winners, and then second off they tell
- 38:07me, guys like Speek are dead after three holes that end up finishing in
- 38:10third place, So always a good time over in the ship a Nation PGA
- 38:15discord. One more conversation piece here, like what about like HOGI List?
- 38:21Did you say anything on Putnam? But HOGI and List were two that Mayo
- 38:23was talking about. He always likes List, HOGI looks to be overlooked here,
- 38:27any thoughts on those two? And then what about Andrew putnham in on
- 38:30List? Like I said, it seems like can't have found something at the
- 38:32end of last season or last year whenever he got hot, like you have
- 38:36that little hot stretch, Like, I'm good kind of sticking with him.
- 38:38Putnam just a guy typically don't get too unless he's like a full on punt,
- 38:42So I'll pass on Putnam. Yeah, that's the thing. The pricing
- 38:45too, Like I wonder too. Tokyo is obviously here. I appreciate the
- 38:49support, as always said, optimal this week is gonna have five K left.
- 38:52But before that he said, our guy la Iceberg ten point five k
- 38:55Lol. I'm wondering, like, what would you want his price to be?
- 38:59I'm just here's what the chat thinks his price should be we everybody loved
- 39:02him, you sa you could say you didn't. That's fine in general,
- 39:05it's not at Tokyo's just in general conversation. He was almost nine k last
- 39:09week in a field with Scotty Xander can't Ley fiend like all these top dudes,
- 39:15and now he goes to ten to five. But look at the field
- 39:17different. So what price would you suspect to see him at? And are
- 39:21you really just saying that based on last week's result where it didn't quite work
- 39:24out but he still had two very strong rounds last week, including his final
- 39:29rounds. I really just wonder from that perspective. But who, let's talk
- 39:31about this this bottom seven k range there, Ben Griffin justin so those types
- 39:37of guys down to Mark Hubbard. Austin echrote seven k flat? What are
- 39:40you doing? This bottom seven k range? Yeah, I mean not as
- 39:45super appealing range obviously continues to kind of fall off a little bit when you
- 39:50get down here. For you guys that I am looking at, I'll a
- 39:52probably take a chance on Grio played last week, you know, didn't have
- 39:55a great result. The seventy four hundred fine kind of looking to him.
- 40:00Patrick Rodgers played very well last week seventy three hundred. I'm kind of good
- 40:05going to him. I will take a chance on our guy Vincent Norman double
- 40:09R seventy two hundred. Just not gonna play him in a ton of teams,
- 40:14but a guy that I'll have some exposure to, you know, maybe
- 40:17a little bit of Nick Taylor, Gary Woodland at seventy one hundred, Nick
- 40:22Hardy's name for me there, and then always got to play my guy Mark
- 40:28Hubbard at seven k in you know what is a kind of weaker field event.
- 40:34He tends to do well in these things and score well. And then
- 40:37Austin Akro too, so you know, have some plays down here. It
- 40:39does start to get a little dicey, There's no doubt about it. Grio,
- 40:43Patrick Rogers, and I'll say Hubbard are my three favorites in the lower
- 40:50seven k range. Yeah, we were talking earlier to Mayo and I about
- 40:52your other Canadian boy, Nick Taylor there, he's at the seventy two hundred.
- 40:57Definitely fits the old I think you just obviously looking at like comcourses and
- 41:00stuff like that. That was one of the things that was brought up may
- 41:04It was pretty hig on, but he's come seventh and eleventh here the last
- 41:07two times he's played it, and then on top of it, he's got
- 41:10he's coming. He did play last week, so that was kind of the
- 41:13setup. Forget how he did last week doesn't matter. It's kind of that
- 41:15set up as well. So Wow, our guy Tokyo is very good.
- 41:20No, that again, that hasn't been the sticky piece though people talk about
- 41:22steaming course history and guys played, it's been who played the week before,
- 41:27not guys that played the week before and did well. Said I think he's
- 41:30on a heater and he should be actually a seven K guy. That's definitely
- 41:35a hot take for sure. Jason says that's gonna cost you money eventually,
- 41:38so he's I'm already ahead on it. It's good. A little back and
- 41:42forth there. I like this, So yeah, I got to decide what
- 41:45we're doing down here. But I will say this was the range in doing
- 41:46the show today that really no builds ended up landing on here, or at
- 41:51least very few. So you can go like a ten gay guy that's different
- 41:53from everybody else, a nine K guy, pick an eight K guy,
- 41:57and then land down here for three guys and still get away with it.
- 42:00I think there's lots of options you could try out, like Grio, Rogers
- 42:04and Kiddiyama. If you want to take the cheaper Ludwig, you can go
- 42:08to a D d C right there at seventy three hundred. It could be
- 42:10the same thing. If you want to get in early and hope to find
- 42:14another flavor of the month type play, you can go down there. Norman
- 42:17again played bad last week, but played that matters Nick Taylor. Who else
- 42:22down here? Taylor Pendrith as well, I talked about today next to the
- 42:28Canadian that trolls everybody if you could have seventy two. Yeah, I always
- 42:32like myself from Pendreth Well. In the swing season he came third, fifteenth
- 42:37and eighth, So I actually don't hate that situation there for a guy that
- 42:40just nobody's gonna be on. So you can take some chances there. Either
- 42:44he's the Canadian that beats Nick Taylor at the same price, or you end
- 42:47up needing both of them, or they both beat Corey Connors at high ownership.
- 42:51Whatever it ends up being. Ben Griffin seventy four hundred, I think
- 42:54is fine. Rio hissat Sune. He's a guy you could play seventy one
- 43:00hundred down here, and then Ben Coles is another one that got tocked up
- 43:05a little bit as well. I guess I don't know what you think Gary
- 43:07Woodland's ownership will come in, but obviously he's coming back from some health stuff.
- 43:12It's just hard to go back. And really that's more of like the
- 43:15situation of like what was it will z al Taurus instead of that where we,
- 43:20you know, people are just making this up like that his injury still
- 43:22exists from whatever. It's more of Gary Woodland actually is coming back from some
- 43:25health stuff and going through it and some personal stuff and things that they're with
- 43:30his family and himself and his own health where it could be a situation where
- 43:32we got to have a little bit of time to make this happen. But
- 43:36I don't know your thoughts there, but Woodland looks like no ownership at all
- 43:40right now. But Ben Coles was the one that kept getting brought up and
- 43:44just to bring his numbers up, so it was good. Was the end
- 43:47of last season when he kind of got hot. He played one of the
- 43:52RSM and then he played here two years ago and came twenty seventh. I
- 43:54don't know if I'm gonna lead on those things just based on the one or
- 43:59two events and thoughts Rio, who people talking about in the chat again,
- 44:05Rio Kanaya, some of these Japanese tour players that do grind the entire offseason
- 44:09and play it. I get it. The field strength is not the same,
- 44:13but they've shown up in some of these events in the past. And
- 44:15if you look at just Rio's history or sort of like a recent form again
- 44:19over in the Japanese tour events, but like eighth, thirteenth, ninth,
- 44:22eighteenth, sixth, just crushing what he's up against. He can only beat
- 44:25what he's up against. That's what it comes down to. And so when
- 44:28you have a price tag of seventy to one hundred, I don't mind taking
- 44:31some shots on different guys here. But this entire lower seven K range looks
- 44:36like currently nobody besides Ben Coles or Nick Taylor are gonna get any kind of
- 44:42ownership. So you can just easily get your set up here where you get
- 44:45leverage on these guys hoo. And it also can keep you completely out of
- 44:49the six K range. If you don't want to go down to the six
- 44:51K range, mind you, there is eighty four guys. Talk to me
- 44:53about who some of these eighty four guys are that you might be interested in.
- 44:58Yeah, that's a lot, and obviously it falls off and certain sort
- 45:00of roster constructions you might want to come down here. In terms of how
- 45:05many of these guys I'll be playing this week, I don't know obtually,
- 45:08like six, seven, maybe eight that I have some interest in, you
- 45:13know, right out of the gate. Definitely Robert McIntyre at sixty nine hundred,
- 45:15Like, I don't know why he's so cheap in this field. I
- 45:17mean, maybe I'm missing something, but I'm definitely going to be in on
- 45:21him. Sixty nine. My guy, Garrick Higgo sixty eight hundred, another
- 45:27guy that kind of got hot at the end of last season. I'll definitely
- 45:30take a chance on him. He has some you know, I don't know,
- 45:34not winning upside, but like top twenty upside, which is all you're
- 45:37looking for down here. Matthew Nie Smith at the sixty five hundred. I'm
- 45:40always a sucker for Nie Smith has been playing well too, played well throughout
- 45:45the swing season. Sixty five hundred seems like a cheap price tag. Nate
- 45:49Lashley sixty two, Callum Tarn sixty four is a guy that again he had
- 45:54some success last year hasn't been obviously, you know, didn't play a ton,
- 45:58but some decent results throughout the swing season. In on him a little
- 46:01bit. And then the last name full punt. Maybe take some chances on
- 46:08our guy Atlanto Griffin at sixty two. But the guys that you know,
- 46:13I really do like Higo and MacIntyre definitely in the what's McIntyre sixty nine,
- 46:19Higo sixty eight? I really like those two of cup and I do want
- 46:24to mention this because I forgot too when I was talking earlier, like Kanaya
- 46:28was the one I was looking up last night. Canaias a good player.
- 46:30You know the history of I mean one fourteenth in the world. I know
- 46:34owgr is broken right now pretty much. But if you go back all of
- 46:37his stuff T two, T seventy three, T eight three, all these
- 46:40numbers are on the Japanese Tour. It came T thirty one at the Zozo.
- 46:45It was ru who I wanted to bring up. He sat Soude.
- 46:47All of his stuff was DP World Tour. So if you go back and
- 46:51look on his events and his finishes, like some of these events were like
- 46:53the one Max Homa one. He's up there in ninth place with Max Homa,
- 46:59the Hodge Guards justin Thomas Hoyguard sorry, and then York and those guys
- 47:06that are in it, Matt Wallace, Victor Hoblin, Tommy Fleetwood, John
- 47:08Rahm. He's in the mix at the DP World Tour Championship with those guys.
- 47:13So he would be another guy that I would take a shot on just
- 47:15based off of that I was. I apologize. I was talking about Kanaya
- 47:17playing the Japanese Tour events, but these are recent DP World Tour events for
- 47:22Rio there at seventy one hundred, so definitely have a little bit of interest
- 47:25in him in the six K range. You mentioned some there. I just
- 47:29don't have a bunch popping off the page right now. I mentioned Kanaia and
- 47:32the Japanese Tour stuff. But if you go down some shot on talent early
- 47:37or guys that you always play like, some of the guys you always play
- 47:40like Doug gimm Bobby McIntyre, sorry, Hayden Buckley is one that it seems
- 47:45the field likes a little bit. Tyler Duncan. I always play some of
- 47:49him. I don't mind again, I hope it's more of a birdie fest.
- 47:52Whether it was or wasn't. I kind of like Matthew Nei Smith a
- 47:54little bit more. But you know, as our guy Hockey Experience says,
- 47:57and it has been very awesome throughout the chat today, just making the cut
- 48:00probably won't do you got you gotta do something, and that's why, like
- 48:04Whop said, he's talking about some guys down here if you want to go
- 48:06with that build, but definitely gotta consider what it does for the rest of
- 48:08your build. If you get five other guys that you really love, then
- 48:12you're fine. And just a note on this one. Paltasori's been off the
- 48:15bag for a while, obviously went to Cam Jung and now has moved on
- 48:19to Brendon Todd. So Tasori's on his third guy since last week out there
- 48:22with Brendan Todd. There was some ups and downs with that relationship. But
- 48:25again, I just don't know if you need it. I made fun of
- 48:29it last night. We do have a Troy Merritt flow chart week. He
- 48:31is Troy Merrett playing? Yes? Is he cheap? Yes? Sixty one
- 48:36hundred? Is there birdies to be found out here? Yes? Play?
- 48:38Troy Merritt. That's usually how it works for Merritt. Let's see where it
- 48:43is. Sixty one, he said, sixty one. I don't think he's
- 48:45done anything that's worth talking about, but I always will bring that up because
- 48:47when it starts popping. Now he's seen this course a million times and it's
- 48:51a ton of miscuts, A sixty fifth, a fifty sixth, really absolutely
- 48:54nothing going on. He said he had the yips last year. He admitted
- 48:58it with his putter and everything. Yeah, more than the yips man,
- 49:00way more than there wasn't there a strutchey he missed like twelve cuts in a
- 49:04row or something crazy. Yeah, it was bad. So that's the thing.
- 49:07And Mike brings this up. I will touch on this. Maybe you
- 49:09know from the show earlier. Maybe Mike just knows that's what I'm saying.
- 49:13But I definitely touched on this on the Mail show. Not everyone gets a
- 49:15chance to watch every show that we do, so I always want to cover
- 49:17as much as possible on this one. But and go collect already coming at
- 49:22me, I agree, probably more of a showtown guy if we get him
- 49:23through, take a shot. But to Mike's point, I do want to
- 49:27touch on this because I make fun of this all the time and bring it
- 49:29up. It's not to make fun of people playing their guys down here,
- 49:31but one percent ownership only helps you this obvious that is true. Not coming
- 49:36at Mike, just saying the facts. But the point people misunderstand is like
- 49:39you get one percent of a guy, and you get a guy at one
- 49:42percent, you still have to get the other five spots right. So there's
- 49:44a lot of times that guys that play this game professionally or even in their
- 49:46bigger pools and all that stuff, that still don't go crazy in those spots
- 49:50because they know, first off, nobody else is gonna have it. Ninety
- 49:53nine percent of the field doesn't even have that guy, so you don't need
- 49:57to take a shot for that reason. And two, even the one that
- 50:00have that guy probably have it with something else, So it's not gonna make
- 50:04up You're not actually gonna make up a ton of ground. And how often
- 50:07are the one percent six k guys actually gonna go on to win the tournament
- 50:09where there's enough juice in that that you squeezed out of it to get you
- 50:14where you actually need it. So that's another reason why I don't just completely
- 50:17go down there and get into that. You could do so many other different
- 50:21roster constructions as ways to get different to find your way around. Typically that's
- 50:24how I like to do it. What's a different construction? Not who is
- 50:28this crazy one percent play that if they just make the cut, I'm good.
- 50:31That is such a false narrative that just gets brought up all the time,
- 50:36MythBusters, hoop, we're mythbusting, the pgadfs stuff with stuff like that.
- 50:40And well, at ten to five, Ludwig needs to come top five
- 50:44or you're dead. You don't know what if everybody else misses the cut around
- 50:46him and he's the only expensive guy that comes through, could be a thing.
- 50:51Right, So Scotty Scheffler last week didn't have the best week, still
- 50:53was up there and a bunch of opportunistic lineups because even though he wasn't having
- 50:58the best week, it was easy to fit in stars and scrubs and the
- 51:00scrubs crushed. So that's another thing just to look at. If you guys
- 51:04have other questions, throw him in the chat. But anything else you want
- 51:07to add here, who for this bottomn six k range or other things you
- 51:09want to touch on this week. Yeah, that's a good point that you
- 51:12make there. I mean you always talk about when we do the showdown shows
- 51:15how you're playing. It's like a six to six team parlay. I mean
- 51:17you need everything else to work as well. It's not just that one spot.
- 51:21It's not if you get you know, Troy Merritt through, you're good
- 51:23to go. Like, that's not the case maybe in cash games, like
- 51:25if you take a risk on a six K guy and he gets through,
- 51:28maybe you're good because then you're getting the other guys up top. But in
- 51:30these GPPs, you need, you know, at least five of those spots
- 51:34to go off essentially and have good weeks. So yeah, I thought that
- 51:38was a solid point. If you watch the Netflix documentary yes where he had
- 51:43the he gave up on his US Open qualifier where you play two back to
- 51:46back rounds and he like has the white clause after nine and then just goes
- 51:50off and crushes and gets into the US Open. That was great. He
- 51:53needs his white clause at the turn for me to consider playing him. It
- 51:57has been a rough scene for him. There was somebody else, So who
- 52:00did Mayo tell me about today? That I kind of liked I'll look him
- 52:04up. I know who it is. Now. I just want to just
- 52:05kind I'll tell a quick story that that damon story does. It does kind
- 52:07of remind me of when when I teed it up at the Rocket Mortgage prom.
- 52:12I took my buddy with me. Played college golf really good, I
- 52:14mean scratch golfer. I mean he's phenomenal golfer. He's so he was so
- 52:19nervous at this pro am event. First shot, like I've played. If
- 52:23I golf, I'm golfing with this guy. I don't call very often,
- 52:25but if I do, I'm golfing with him. Off the t first one,
- 52:28he freaking duck hooks it into someone's yard off the tenth hole at the
- 52:30Rocket Mortgage Me not a great golfer. Just get out, get up there,
- 52:36and I just pipe one right down the middle. We end up using
- 52:37my drive, and like boys, if we're using my drives at this event,
- 52:40we're in some big, big trouble because I'm not very good. So
- 52:45I took him about three holes. He's still still shooting like shit. I
- 52:47had like a little fireball shooter in my bag. I was like, dude,
- 52:51I said, slam this. We're getting a beer after this next hole
- 52:53and you're gonna be fine. Sure, shit, fifth, I think it
- 52:57was the fifth hole when the booze kick. Then we're on the par five
- 53:01and two eagle putt. I think we ended up missing the putt, but
- 53:04it was, you know, his best hole of the day. So it
- 53:06does work for people get that liquid courage going. Yeah, I can't.
- 53:09I know, Like again, people talk about all the time, but you
- 53:12just you know, you're out there playing in pro ams like not everyone's getting
- 53:15that opportunity. So playing just with the buddies, that's what it's all about.
- 53:17And typically it's the first half goes bad, so then you just start
- 53:21slamming drinks of all kinds and then the second half actually goes worse because of
- 53:24that. So no, that's what that's for me. Yeah, if I
- 53:27you know, well, there's a point of no return in my golf game
- 53:30if I if I have too many drinks, it's over. I mean a
- 53:31lot of times it's over from the first t box Dad sober. But you
- 53:36know, either way, it can still get worse for guys like I'm assuming
- 53:38we're probably similar when it comes to golf. For guys like you and I
- 53:40can get worse. Yeah, I haven't played in a long time, Like
- 53:43I used to play more often before the kids and stuff like that. But
- 53:45obviously Canada weather snow things like that, you don't get out as often.
- 53:49And then obviously setting it up and just focusing on DFS. This is where
- 53:54my thing. I dominated bill Isica bowl three four nights a week, got
- 53:59the three high, und got all that stuff like your boy can bowl.
- 54:01When it comes to golf, though not so much. Golf is just hard.
- 54:05That's the other thing about it. Like it's so it's fun, it's
- 54:07relaxing, I get it, but it's also frustrating, especially if you're extremely
- 54:09competitive like I am. It just sucks to go out and you just it's
- 54:13not something you can just figure out. You obviously have to put your time
- 54:15in, stay sharp, probably take some lessons, get some practice. It's
- 54:20just what we talk about a ship a nation for dfs. You gotta put
- 54:22the reps in, you gotta put the time. You don't just get to
- 54:24sign up and win. It's same as golf. You don't just get to
- 54:27show up to the course and play good golf. You have to learn things,
- 54:30you have to get better. You have to focus on that. So
- 54:32I kind of treat things like that, you know in life, saying and
- 54:36getting a personal trainer, getting golf lessons or something like that. Every single
- 54:39industry has it where you can go somewhere and learn bring it back to the
- 54:43marketing. That's what ship a Nation is all about. The guy I wanted
- 54:45to bring up quickly was Chad Raimi. Mayo brought him up today. He
- 54:50has played really well on coastal courses. One in the past at the corrals,
- 54:53but even his recent stuff like sixteenth nineteenth. You talked about the Rocket
- 54:58Mortgage. That's way back when, but seventeenth, I mean, none of
- 55:00those events that count. The swing season stuff is sixteenth, nineteenth and forty
- 55:02six pretty good stats. But going back to some of these other events,
- 55:07it's more of what he can do. He can make cuts and he can
- 55:10pop with them. It's not just a mad cut you're getting. Twelft's came
- 55:15seventeenth at the Rocket Mortgage, nineteenth at the Fortnet, sixteenth at the Sanderson
- 55:20Farms. A top twenty for sixty five hundred is gonna be phenomenal, Like,
- 55:22that's gonna be very good, not saying it will happen this week,
- 55:25but definitely don't think very many people are going to him down there. That's
- 55:29kind of where I'd rather go. But as we talked about throughout the show,
- 55:30I kind of like sticking up in that range of like seven K and
- 55:35above and just getting different that way. Anything else there, hoop that you
- 55:38had, I was just trying to see here. I think I think that
- 55:42was it for me. Man. I don't know have much else. Yeah,
- 55:44yeah, I mean again just to come back full circle. I mean
- 55:46coming down the sixth K range. Obviously there's risk and it's a really good
- 55:50talking point just for general strategy where you know, it's not a slam dunk
- 55:53wher. If you get that guy right, you're gonna you know, make
- 55:55money. You still have five other spots. So we mentioned that with Troy
- 56:00Merritt, but you can apply that same logic to many many guys in this
- 56:04in the six K range. Yeah. That's that's about all I got here
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