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Inside The Data: Philadelphia Eagles DC VIc Fangio Is, Once Again, The Star Of The Stat Sheet · Inside the Birds: A Philadelphia Eagles Podcast

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Speaker 1: Hello, everyone, welcome to Inside the Data on Inside the Birds.
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Speaker 1: I'm Jeff Mosher and we got Sam Finkel, our data expert,
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Speaker 1: to ring in the new year with some really fascinating
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Speaker 1: and exciting data on the Eagles offense. Just kidding, just kidding. Well, well, yeah,
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Speaker 1: we talk about the defense and get people excited. The
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Speaker 1: offense maybe not so much. But before we start, Sam,
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Speaker 1: hope you had a wonderful new year. Hope all of
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Speaker 1: our listeners and people who have been with this show
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Speaker 1: all year long also had a great new year.
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Speaker 2: I was with you until you said offense.
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Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, I know, I know, I know. What
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Speaker 1: did you seek to find out when doing Inside the
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Speaker 1: Data versus this thirteen to twelve win over the Bills?
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I just kind of looked for explanations
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Speaker 2: because this game was a thrilling game where it didn't
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Speaker 2: necessarily need to be a thrilling game in some regards.
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Speaker 2: Some elite defensive play all around, and you know, the offense. Okay,
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Speaker 2: I'll put it this way. We're going to be broken records,
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Speaker 2: but we're also going to talk about some broken records.
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Speaker 1: You know, it's nice to be a.
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Speaker 2: Little profound with that, but let's let's get into it.
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Speaker 2: We'll just see what my thought process as we go.
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Speaker 1: So just to show you how we're sometimes on the
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Speaker 1: same page without communicating. Before I put up the charts.
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Speaker 1: The one I guess real chart I was looking forward
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Speaker 1: to seeing coming out of this game was the peak
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Speaker 1: win percentage one that you've introduced going into you know,
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Speaker 1: a few weeks ago, because this was a game where
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Speaker 1: you felt like it was going to heavily favor one
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Speaker 1: team and then the other and then the other, right,
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Speaker 1: So I was curious to see how it came together,
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Speaker 1: and I think you actually led off the charts this
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Speaker 1: week with it. So we we sometimes think with one
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Speaker 1: same brain, which is kind of scary, Sam, but that
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Speaker 1: is good.
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Speaker 2: Carrying one brain cell between the two of us.
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Speaker 1: All it's like a bad movie, like The Matrix or
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Speaker 1: something like that. I don't know, we're all living in it.
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Speaker 1: So yeah, let me get right to the charts and
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Speaker 1: away we'll go. All right, So here we go inside
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Speaker 1: the data week seventeen recap, and then you kind of
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Speaker 1: also threw in the score by quarter chart here too,
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Speaker 1: which also paints a picture. Those lines do not look similar, no.
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Speaker 2: And it's just very illustrative of basically what we saw
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Speaker 2: and everyone saw. You know, the Eagles took a commanding
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Speaker 2: lead early and then did nothing with it. The Bills
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Speaker 2: were stagnant and then at the end shot up and
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Speaker 2: you know they almost reached the Eagles at the end.
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Speaker 2: But hey, everyone will take it.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, there's gotta be some funny name for
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Speaker 1: this kind of line graph, right for especially the Bills, who,
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Speaker 1: as the chart shows to that, not to show up
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Speaker 1: for the first forty five minutes of the game. I mean,
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Speaker 1: credit to the egos defense. I don't want to take
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Speaker 1: anything away, but you know, it's just funny to see that.
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Speaker 1: I don't know, I'm not great at math, but and
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Speaker 1: the protractor that would be like, would that be like
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Speaker 1: a one hundred and twenty degree angles? No, what would
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Speaker 1: that be that that Bill's line there?
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean.
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Speaker 1: I'm not The right angle would be ninety degrees and
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Speaker 1: that would be a total corner. And now it's leaning
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Speaker 1: the other way. So if I got that one right,
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Speaker 1: if anybody could validate listening, if that's about a one
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Speaker 1: twenty degree angle, then I'm impressed with myself.
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Speaker 2: Well, I mean they say in school, you're either good
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Speaker 2: at like algebra or geometry, and I was never good
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Speaker 2: at geometry.
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Speaker 1: Well what's the saying. If you're good at none of.
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Speaker 2: That, Yeah, then you are a journalist and.
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Speaker 1: You're a sports exactly all right, here we go peak
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Speaker 1: win percentage.
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Speaker 2: Look at that thing, man, Yeah, I mean I was
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Speaker 2: surprised that their highest win percentage was actually in the
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Speaker 2: first quarter for the Bills, right, sixty seven percent, when
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Speaker 2: it was zero zero after James Cook up the middle
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Speaker 2: for seven yards on the Philadelphia twenty three. It was
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Speaker 2: right before Josh Allen's fumble that was their highest win percentage.
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Speaker 1: Did you think that that was a forward pass? I
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Speaker 1: kind of thought it was.
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Speaker 2: You know, it could. The officiating was really bad, I felt,
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Speaker 2: and I feel like on both sides, it just which
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Speaker 2: you kind of hope evens out. I mean, all you
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Speaker 2: want is consistency. Right, If the officiating is bad, as
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Speaker 2: long as it's equally bad for both teams, you feel okay.
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Speaker 2: I thought it was, yes, but that officiating was particularly horrible.
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Speaker 2: I don't understand it.
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Speaker 1: Plus the way the Bills Josh Allen, the Bills we
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Speaker 1: reacted to it and they didn't even go after the
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Speaker 1: ball because they still clearly thought it was. So it
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Speaker 1: was almost a little bit of a gift there for
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Speaker 1: the Eagles because they were in credit to them, you know,
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Speaker 1: you played the whistle and they ran after it and
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Speaker 1: got it. But clearly the Bills thought that that was
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Speaker 1: a forward pass and had no reaction to it.
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Speaker 3: So yeah, So the Church shows that the Bills had
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Speaker 3: this high winning percentage in the first quarter and then
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Speaker 3: not again until I love this like final line on
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Speaker 3: the right side where it's like a precipitous drop there.
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Speaker 2: That was everyone's heart watching at the end. Actually very
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Speaker 2: much describes it. Interestingly, before we get to that, the
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Speaker 2: Eagles had an over a ninety percent win percentage I
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Speaker 2: think multiple times, and then they just kept dropping back,
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Speaker 2: dropping back right. It's pretty much anytime they got the
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Speaker 2: ball back and then three and out it went back
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Speaker 2: down that that was kind of the where they were at.
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Speaker 2: But after Josh Allen's second rushing touchdown in the fourth quarter,
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Speaker 2: the Bills had a fifty six percent win percentage crazy
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Speaker 2: thirteen twelve with eight seconds left in the game, and
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Speaker 2: that obviously is when the two point conversion happened, which,
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Speaker 2: to be honest with you, I don't think the Bills
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Speaker 2: made the breaks to cheat strategic call, uh in terms
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Speaker 2: of going for two, and the numbers say to absolutely
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Speaker 2: go for it there like the actual statistic. But the
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Speaker 2: problem is, you had momentum in the Eagles offense wasn't
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Speaker 2: moving at all. So I just I think in that situation,
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Speaker 2: you let it go to overtime and you just ride
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Speaker 2: the momentum.
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Speaker 1: You know, It's a tough call because I feel like
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Speaker 1: Sean was smart enough to realize that even when his
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Speaker 1: offense was moving, there were kind of shot plays that
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Speaker 1: were not moving the ball methodically and deliberately well. And
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Speaker 1: and then you go in overtime, you may have to
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Speaker 1: get a fuel goal right or match Obviously the touchdown.
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Speaker 1: Now they did have great they did have the Eagles
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Speaker 1: offense completely foiled. I agree with you on that, So
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Speaker 1: I think there's an argument to be made for both.
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Speaker 1: But I feel like Sean showed a lack of an
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Speaker 1: understandable lack of his team's ability to keep what they
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Speaker 1: had done in the fourth quarter going for another quarter
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Speaker 1: against an Eagles defense that very easily could have forced
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Speaker 1: Snoller turnover and made it easy for the off I
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Speaker 1: don't know. I think you have to think about a
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Speaker 1: lot of things right in ten seconds, and I'm sure
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Speaker 1: in his mind's like we got to win, and let's
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Speaker 1: go win it here, and they were unlikely to probably
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Speaker 1: to be able to win.
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Speaker 2: The division anyway, and then they almost got it, by
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Speaker 2: the way still.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, and then actually they almost did right.
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Speaker 2: It probably should have had it, but definitely should have. Yeah.
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Speaker 1: Absolutely, But the most I think the thing about this
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Speaker 1: chart that is the most fascinating to me is like
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Speaker 1: in the upper right quadrant, the Eagles have like their
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Speaker 1: highest win percentage maybe an inch away from the finish
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Speaker 1: line right, and then their lowest is right within. It's
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Speaker 1: almost like within a minute and a half they went
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Speaker 1: from their highest to their lowest winning percentage.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's very true.
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Speaker 1: That is amazing all right. By the numbers, I think
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Speaker 1: jump out to you here. I mean, if you would
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Speaker 1: have asked me what the numbers, the basic stats look
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Speaker 1: like after the game, I would say, well, you know,
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Speaker 1: Bill's probably had a lot more yards and a higher
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Speaker 1: average you know, obviously the you and more more time possession.
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Speaker 1: So I feel like this is pretty reflective of how
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Speaker 1: you know, there's nothing that sometimes catchs Sometimes they catch
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Speaker 1: our eye and we say that that seems odd.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, listen, the the only thing that honestly
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Speaker 2: none of its surprises me. And there you can see
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Speaker 2: the officiating with the penalties. It's almost negligible the difference,
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Speaker 2: which is why nothing was highlighted there, right, But yeah,
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Speaker 2: nothing jumps out. It's kind of what you expect.
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Speaker 1: Maybe one thing, Sam that is green for the Bills,
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Speaker 1: which means good for them, meaning they won the category,
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Speaker 1: but not good for them would be their yards per
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Speaker 1: rush because there's such a and it's just like the Eagles.
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Speaker 1: They are a team that's highly dependent on running the
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Speaker 1: ball and they've unlike the Eagles, they have been running
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Speaker 1: the ball very well this year with James Cook and
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Speaker 1: Josh Allen, of course, and that's really their bread and butter.
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Speaker 1: So at three point six, sure, they beat the Eagles
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Speaker 1: three point two, but that's not a that's not a
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Speaker 1: hanger hat on kind of average for them.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, no, not at all. I think both teams would
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Speaker 2: prefer those yards per rush to be at least closer
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Speaker 2: to four, if not up to five potentially, So definitely all.
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Speaker 1: Right, especially when the Bills are at home. Third down stats,
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Speaker 1: Oh boy, Sam, here we go again.
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Speaker 2: I opened the door to this when I started tracking it.
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Speaker 2: We got to keep it going here.
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Speaker 1: You did, so I don't think I would have thought
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Speaker 1: the Bills were six to fifteen. I did look at
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Speaker 1: that at the game, which is not great but not terrible.
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Speaker 1: But the Eagles at three for thirteen. The crazy part
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Speaker 1: is I didn't do the first half versus second half,
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Speaker 1: but I think they converted all three in the first half.
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Speaker 1: Obviously they did because they had no yard Yeah, yeah,
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Speaker 1: they did, so they must have been something like I
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Speaker 1: don't know, zero for six, seven, eight nine in the
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Speaker 1: second half.
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Speaker 2: That, yep, sounds about right.
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Speaker 1: The big thing is they were also what we've talked
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Speaker 1: about all year, a lot of those third downs were
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Speaker 1: third and unmanageable, and that number was starting to even
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Speaker 1: out a little bit after the Chargers, Raiders and Commanders game, right,
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Speaker 1: But now you look back and they're third and long
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Speaker 1: is one hundred and nine snaps compared to the shortened
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Speaker 1: medium combined at eighty seven. So yes, it's just living
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Speaker 1: in third long.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, and that's not a sustainable way to play football.
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Speaker 2: It's just not. No.
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Speaker 1: Now they convert I even think you know their sixty
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Speaker 1: percent conversion on third and short is probably way down
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Speaker 1: from past years.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, it is for sure, because their.
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Speaker 1: Opponents are actually converting third and short better than them. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: they're doing third and medium better than their opponents and
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Speaker 1: right around the same amount of snaps. But third and law,
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Speaker 1: I mean.
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Speaker 2: It's the only way they're being able to do anything.
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Speaker 1: They're also losing to their opponent on third and laws,
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Speaker 1: so they're losing situationally in two of three third down categories.
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Speaker 2: Their opponent, and their opponent has more than double the
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Speaker 2: amount of third and shorts.
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Speaker 1: That is crazy're right, that is crazy. Fifty two for
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Speaker 1: the opponent, twenty five for the Eagles. Man. That brings
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Speaker 1: us to the pie chart again. That great area of
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Speaker 1: third and long for the Eagles was starting to recede
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Speaker 1: a little bit. It wasn't normal, but it was starting
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Speaker 1: to look a little better. And now it's kind of
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Speaker 1: back through like dominating the pie.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, one step forward, but like five steps
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Speaker 2: back is kind of the feeling right now. Yeah.
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Speaker 1: Yep. So last year they were forty six percent, this
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Speaker 1: year fifty six percent. I mean that's just a huge,
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Speaker 1: huge increase.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, it really is, all right, that was fun. I'm
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Speaker 2: so glad we had fun on that one.
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Speaker 1: And now we get to do advanced offensive data for
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Speaker 1: the Eagles.
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Speaker 2: I'm ready to skip offense again.
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Speaker 1: Yeah I see a lot of red here.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, you do. You would. All their epas were negative,
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Speaker 2: meaning that basically, anytime they touched the ball they were
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Speaker 2: taking points off the board. That's really what that means
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Speaker 2: at the end of the day. Yeah, it feels really bad.
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Speaker 2: They also had a higher negative net time before pressure,
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Speaker 2: meaning that Hurts was holding onto the ball and throwing
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Speaker 2: it while being pressured. On average, the quarterback pressure percentage
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Speaker 2: was higher in this game. Their sack percentage was better,
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Speaker 2: the pressures were not turning into sacks as much as
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Speaker 2: only one sack ye average separation was worse. The runs
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Speaker 2: were less successful, but the runs were stuffed at a
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Speaker 2: lower rate, which is as good, but they still were
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Speaker 2: not turning into anything great. And then the Bills ran
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Speaker 2: a stacked box less times and then a light box
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Speaker 2: more times than the season average.
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Speaker 1: Well, so then cause and effect right. If the Bills
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Speaker 1: didn't stack the box and had a lighter box than most,
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Speaker 1: that would explain whether the runs were stuffed at a
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Speaker 1: little bit of a lesser rate to just devoted th
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Speaker 1: people to stuffing the run.
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Speaker 2: They didn't need to.
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Speaker 1: That's yeah, that's not a great thing for the Eagles.
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Speaker 1: So you want people in the box so you can
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Speaker 1: throw the ball. The one thing that's interesting to me
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Speaker 1: is that I figured with such a bad EPA per
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Speaker 1: pass at minus point three one, I thought that would
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Speaker 1: have dragged the season average below zero. I think it
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Speaker 1: was at below zero. I'm sorry, I think it was
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Speaker 1: at zero last week too. We were talking about how
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Speaker 1: close they were last week to having all three epas
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Speaker 1: per play, per pass, per rush being negative, but per
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Speaker 1: pass right now it's still neutral at zero point zero zero.
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Speaker 1: They got one game left to get this thing into
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Speaker 1: the negative.
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Speaker 2: Sam, spoiler alert, I'm not sure they're going to get
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Speaker 2: it out.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, well, you never know, because McKee is you know,
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Speaker 1: if he starts and against the bad Commander's defense and
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Speaker 1: they throw the ball around a little bit, it's you
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Speaker 1: never know.
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Speaker 2: I just think at this point it's pretty much set.
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Speaker 2: It would take a pretty big anomaly. I feel like that, Yeah,
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Speaker 2: listen what we can explore it next week and you
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Speaker 2: can be like I told you so, Sam, or I
13:53
Speaker 2: could be like I'm sorry, Jeff, I'm not sure.
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Speaker 1: Well, let's face it, this is a cumulative season thing, right,
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Speaker 1: even if they got EPA for pass into like plus
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Speaker 1: point zero one. I don't think that we're going to
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Speaker 1: sit here and be really proud of the Eagles for that.
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Speaker 2: No, no, we're not, all right.
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Speaker 1: I love the I love this chart that you've been
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Speaker 1: putting together over the last few weeks, the formation, the
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Speaker 1: success by formation, and which formations that they're in, because
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Speaker 1: they really, to me tell a story Sam of an
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Speaker 1: Eagles coaching staff that is now openly admitting I don't
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Speaker 1: know if you heard Kevin Patula's press conference on Tuesday,
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Speaker 1: that they're just trying to find different ways to get
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Speaker 1: to where they want to be, even seventeen weeks into
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Speaker 1: an eighteen week season, right, and it just seems like
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Speaker 1: each week they have a new formation that they are
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Speaker 1: heavier on compared to the others, or a different one,
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Speaker 1: not a new one, a different one.
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Speaker 2: It feels like he's just experimenting, and I feel like
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Speaker 2: this is not really the time to experiment. I guess
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Speaker 2: if you're gonna do it before the playoffs that you
14:58
Speaker 2: don't want to do it there. But at the same degree,
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Speaker 2: you need to figure this stuff out weeks ago. This
15:05
Speaker 2: needed to be figured out weeks ago, right, And then
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Speaker 2: when they do find success, it feels like they completely
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Speaker 2: avoid what caused success before. And I'm not sure if
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Speaker 2: they just want to get more on tape before the playoffs.
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Speaker 2: So just different formations, different looks, just to keep defenses
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Speaker 2: honest like that, there is you know, validity to that strategy. However,
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Speaker 2: it just feels like the play calling isn't putting the
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Speaker 2: players in position to be successful, and then the players
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Speaker 2: aren't executing. It's just dysfunctional from top down. It just
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Speaker 2: really is.
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Speaker 1: I agree. I think a good idea maybe for the
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Speaker 1: last one, you know, the one that wraps up the
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Speaker 1: commander's game, is to focus less on that game, especially
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Speaker 1: if backups play, and maybe try to take a look
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Speaker 1: at these these boxes you put together over last five ways,
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Speaker 1: just individually and see like which formations were their flavor
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Speaker 1: of the week that week and how it had changes
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Speaker 1: on change on a week's week basis. Sure we could
16:03
Speaker 1: certainly do that. So this game felt like sort of
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Speaker 1: old Eagles offense right shotgun. On thirty out of the
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Speaker 1: fifty three snaps, that's where they mostly ran out of
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Speaker 1: it's what they mostly passed out of. You know, you
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Speaker 1: saw saying a lot of the routes like the hitches
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Speaker 1: and the glance routes and things like that. It just
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Speaker 1: it seems it seemed odd that they made these strides
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Speaker 1: and then went back to sort of being the old
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Speaker 1: Eagles offense.
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Speaker 2: Well, it also could be opponents specific too, Yes, that's true.
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Speaker 2: That I didn't mention before is like they feel like
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Speaker 2: this formation they've seen tape, that it works better against
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Speaker 2: you know, the Bill's defense or whatever. And you know,
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Speaker 2: I think it's really important that we at least mentioned
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Speaker 2: that and that there is legitimate reasons for using certain
16:45
Speaker 2: formation and certain certain plays and certain structures just because
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Speaker 2: you know, you know what look you're getting sometimes when
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Speaker 2: you put them in shotgun and you know two by two,
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Speaker 2: you know what, you know what defense are gonna come
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Speaker 2: out like they're.
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Speaker 1: Trying to dictate that matchup. Of course.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, so I at least wanted to mention that because
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Speaker 2: we are giving criticism, but context is still really important.
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Speaker 1: It is, But I also feel like you played your
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Speaker 1: strengths too, and the Bills were down three defensive tackles.
17:15
Speaker 1: They are down at Oliver they're down the two star
17:20
Speaker 1: the Penn State kid Daikwon Jones, right, and Jordan Phillips.
17:24
Speaker 1: So you're playing you're playing old guys like Larry Ogunjobi.
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Speaker 1: You're pulling guys, you know, way down your depth chart
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Speaker 1: to be the interior of your defense. I would have thought,
17:35
Speaker 1: you know, go a little information, get the fullback and
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Speaker 1: the tight end in there, and pounded up the middle
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Speaker 1: because they don't have a very good run defense to
17:42
Speaker 1: begin with. But and I'm not saying the Eagles didn't run,
17:44
Speaker 1: they just ran from shotgun play. They they seem to
17:48
Speaker 1: want to more just spread out the bills instead of
17:50
Speaker 1: trying to maybe get a little extra beef up the middle,
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Speaker 1: you know.
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Speaker 2: And then when they did go with a full back,
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Speaker 2: it was Goddard in the fullback position, which I just
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Speaker 2: feel like it's just miss utilizing Godard. Goddard's incredible player, obviously,
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Speaker 2: but that just is not plays to his strengths, right.
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Speaker 1: Right, So let's say, did any of these formations yield
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Speaker 1: you know, good results for them? I guess Pistol.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, Pistol is the only one, literally the only one.
18:18
Speaker 1: Most sample size, with two plays, two runs, two efficient runs,
18:22
Speaker 1: and one hundred percent success rate.
18:24
Speaker 2: Yeah, and you know empty when they ran the ball,
18:29
Speaker 2: that was one hundred percent success.
18:30
Speaker 1: But you know what surprised me. I thought that they
18:33
Speaker 1: had passed the ball out of empty formations really well
18:35
Speaker 1: but here and again small sample size, only four plays,
18:38
Speaker 1: but zero percent success there or I'm sorry, one one
18:41
Speaker 1: one successful play out of spread empty.
18:43
Speaker 2: And it was when Bigsby motioned back in fright and
18:48
Speaker 2: ran the ball, So it wasn't really it was emotioned
18:52
Speaker 2: out of empty. I'm not sure I would have characterized
18:54
Speaker 2: this that at play is empty, but hey.
18:57
Speaker 1: That's a good point. I would have not characterized that.
18:59
Speaker 1: I would have charted that as empty. I would chart
19:01
Speaker 1: whatever you're in prior to this.
19:03
Speaker 2: The ball one hundred percent. Agree with you, but I
19:05
Speaker 2: have to go on the data points that NFL pro
19:08
Speaker 2: uses just for consistency's sake. So but I do think
19:13
Speaker 2: that's an important caveat.
19:15
Speaker 1: There you go, All right, Eagles offense by formation, this
19:20
Speaker 1: is against, this is against.
19:23
Speaker 2: This last game, right, Yes, I don't know why I
19:26
Speaker 2: did tried to charted an update properly, but it's fine.
19:28
Speaker 1: Okay, no worries. A lot of shotguns. Still fifty seven
19:32
Speaker 1: percent shotgun. I do think that the wedge here, the
19:39
Speaker 1: second biggest formational percentage being single back nineteen percent, is
19:43
Speaker 1: a pretty good sign of growth overall, Like maybe not
19:46
Speaker 1: for this year, but maybe going forward that they can
19:48
Speaker 1: they can do some things when they're under center, because
19:51
Speaker 1: I think their play action passing game has largely been
19:54
Speaker 1: pretty good from under center.
19:56
Speaker 2: Absolutely. Yeah, I one hundred percent agree, And that's kind
19:59
Speaker 2: of what both film and the statistics show.
20:02
Speaker 1: All Right, what do you see here in the Saquon
20:05
Speaker 1: Barkley run chart?
20:06
Speaker 2: A lot more red than we've seen in the past
20:08
Speaker 2: couple of weeks. Yeah, especially again, a lot of the
20:13
Speaker 2: outside runs have been read the past couple like, honestly
20:17
Speaker 2: weeks ago, and they stopped really doing that, and now
20:20
Speaker 2: they went back to it, and that's the result they're getting. Right.
20:24
Speaker 1: Even the yellow sam has a wide variance because yellow
20:27
Speaker 1: is zero to five, whereas five is good, zero's bad.
20:29
Speaker 1: So a yellow line could be either a good thing
20:31
Speaker 1: or a bad thing. So you have to look at
20:33
Speaker 1: the lines, and you see a lot of what I
20:35
Speaker 1: look at as zero to two.
20:37
Speaker 2: Yes, which are you surprised about?
20:40
Speaker 1: No? No, I feel bad for Saquon man, I really
20:43
Speaker 1: I mean, I think he's shown at times this year
20:46
Speaker 1: when the blocking's there, even against the Commanders. You know,
20:49
Speaker 1: he like bullied his way to that touchdown after there
20:51
Speaker 1: were some nice blocks in front of him. But I
20:55
Speaker 1: don't think he's lost anything. I just think he's just
20:57
Speaker 1: getting a hit constantly.
20:59
Speaker 2: Yeah, And the thing is everyone, I mean we predicted
21:02
Speaker 2: that there would be a regression production just because it's
21:06
Speaker 2: impossible to replicate the season. I mean that season was
21:10
Speaker 2: historic last year for Saquon Barkley. Yes, did we think
21:13
Speaker 2: it would be anything like this?
21:15
Speaker 1: No?
21:15
Speaker 2: No, not at all. And again I don't think it's
21:17
Speaker 2: Saquon's fault either. I do think Saquon Barkley has a
21:21
Speaker 2: tendency to try to be play hero ball and every
21:26
Speaker 2: make every play a home run hit. And I think
21:29
Speaker 2: he's done a better job at not doing that as much.
21:33
Speaker 2: Are The problem is, like it compounds with the inefficiency
21:38
Speaker 2: and the struggles of the offensive line that you know,
21:42
Speaker 2: I mean there's people in the backfield almost every single play, Yeah,
21:45
Speaker 2: blocked defenders in the backfield.
21:47
Speaker 1: Or a good point. There was a couple of games
21:51
Speaker 1: in a row where I thought he did this like
21:52
Speaker 1: legs stutter thing that it goes back to Penn State
21:55
Speaker 1: where he squats and almost throttles down looking for the hole,
21:58
Speaker 1: and his legs widen a little bit and he he
22:01
Speaker 1: almost waddles out of it. Like you see, he's so athletic.
22:04
Speaker 1: He's like trying to go left and right at the
22:05
Speaker 1: same time and then winds up getting stuck in neutral.
22:08
Speaker 1: And I thought there were some times he was doing
22:10
Speaker 1: that in the middle of the year, just trying to
22:12
Speaker 1: look for something. I think he's been a better straight
22:15
Speaker 1: line and cutback runner over the last few weeks, but
22:18
Speaker 1: that hasn't in this game. You wouldn't tell because he
22:20
Speaker 1: was just getting hit too quickly.
22:21
Speaker 2: Yeah, he just was. And like I was saying that,
22:24
Speaker 2: they're either players are unblocked, which is to me as
22:27
Speaker 2: a scheme problem, or they were poorly blocked, which is
22:30
Speaker 2: an execution problem. They're having honestly the worst combination of both.
22:34
Speaker 2: The scheme is problematic, but the execution is problematic too.
22:37
Speaker 2: That there's blame to go to Petula, but there's blame
22:39
Speaker 2: to go to the players. I don't think Saquan is
22:42
Speaker 2: to blame here. I really think the offensive line has
22:45
Speaker 2: degraded significantly and there's a lot of explanations for that,
22:50
Speaker 2: but we don't need to even delve into why it
22:54
Speaker 2: just we need to point out that that is part
22:56
Speaker 2: of the issue.
22:57
Speaker 1: Yes, So, as you have here, Barkley is thirty eighth
23:02
Speaker 1: in rushing yards over expectation at minus point three and
23:05
Speaker 1: thirty seventh in rush EPA at minus two point six,
23:08
Speaker 1: which just goes to what we were just talking about
23:11
Speaker 1: the Jalen Hurts chart. What do you think?
23:14
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it looks more like a real quarterback
23:17
Speaker 2: in the NFL, and not just the one side.
23:21
Speaker 1: True, he introduced both sides again, nothing over one pass
23:24
Speaker 1: over the middle, which may have been his best pass
23:26
Speaker 1: of the year, but other than that, everything on the sides.
23:30
Speaker 2: Yep. I agree with that.
23:33
Speaker 1: Does that concern you? Does this feel like a little
23:35
Speaker 1: bit of a regression in his using the entire field?
23:41
Speaker 2: Not really, It doesn't concern me that much, because the
23:46
Speaker 2: thing is, when the Eagles are down, I honestly I
23:49
Speaker 2: would love to look into this maybe in the off season.
23:52
Speaker 2: When they're down, they target the middle of the field
23:54
Speaker 2: significantly more than when they're up. Almost like it's uncanny
23:59
Speaker 2: how often that happens. And I think that's just because
24:01
Speaker 2: they have to. They have to. Yeah, but they're an
24:05
Speaker 2: extremely conservative pass offense except for the shop. Like that's
24:09
Speaker 2: so weird to say because they do take shot plays,
24:11
Speaker 2: but it's it's very like conservative even in that it's
24:15
Speaker 2: weird to say.
24:16
Speaker 1: No, no, you're right because a shot play that Jalen Hurts
24:19
Speaker 1: typically takes down the sideline means either because of his
24:22
Speaker 1: proficiency with it, his guy catches the ball or goes
24:25
Speaker 1: out of bounce. It's it's very rarely a shot played
24:29
Speaker 1: down the line that's gonna that has, you know, into
24:32
Speaker 1: a into a hole like a cover two hole where
24:34
Speaker 1: it's gonna get picked off by a safety rotating over right,
24:36
Speaker 1: I mean they choose their spots correctly to me. Also,
24:42
Speaker 1: the CPOE for him, the completion percentage over expectation of
24:45
Speaker 1: minus three point five this game. I forget what it
24:48
Speaker 1: is for the year, but this he used to be
24:49
Speaker 1: like among the tops of his stat that way. Has
24:52
Speaker 1: that was the Jalen Hurts stat and it has not
24:55
Speaker 1: been that way.
24:56
Speaker 2: Let's talk about it for a second. Okay, So Hurts
24:59
Speaker 2: actually start with that stat you know with CPOE, which
25:02
Speaker 2: again is completion percentage over expectation. All that means is
25:06
Speaker 2: that you know, based on the algorithm that NFL pro has,
25:12
Speaker 2: would a normal receiver or normal quarterback throw the receiver
25:16
Speaker 2: would that be caught typically? And if it is over expectation,
25:21
Speaker 2: it means that the connection between the quarterback and the
25:24
Speaker 2: receiver caught a pass that was more unlikely to be caught.
25:28
Speaker 2: If it's lower, it means they're not completing passes that
25:31
Speaker 2: probably should be caught. And so with that stat Hurts
25:36
Speaker 2: ranked twenty fourth in the NFL in week seventeen at
25:39
Speaker 2: minus three point five percent.
25:42
Speaker 1: Twenty fourth.
25:43
Speaker 2: Yeah, and that's shared with their EPA per dropback, and
25:47
Speaker 2: that's just like how many points expected are you adding
25:49
Speaker 2: each time you drop back the ball? And Hurts was
25:53
Speaker 2: twentieth in the NFL with that at minus zero point
25:55
Speaker 2: two one.
25:56
Speaker 1: Right, And these are categories in the past where even
25:59
Speaker 1: if the offense in general did not look great, those
26:03
Speaker 1: statistics did look good. I mean, he owned these categories.
26:07
Speaker 2: And part of it again is because he has world
26:10
Speaker 2: class receivers that make it easy on him. And that's
26:13
Speaker 2: that's credit to Hurts because he's still positioning the throws
26:16
Speaker 2: in great spots. But I mean having DeVonta Smith and
26:20
Speaker 2: aj Brown as your receivers are two pretty incredible. Yeah,
26:26
Speaker 2: and it certainly helps with that statistic.
26:29
Speaker 1: Yep.
26:30
Speaker 2: The other stat that I pulled with Hurts was from
26:33
Speaker 2: NFL Pro Hurts did not complete a pass in the
26:35
Speaker 2: second half, but won a second game of twenty twenty
26:38
Speaker 2: five without such which is this. The other week was
26:41
Speaker 2: Week four at Tampa Bay. No other starting quarterback has
26:44
Speaker 2: attempted to pass without a completion in the second half
26:47
Speaker 2: of a win in the last two seasons.
26:49
Speaker 1: Oh my god, this is what coming the Eagles is
26:51
Speaker 1: so wild, Like it's they have these like terribly egregious stats.
26:55
Speaker 1: But then the counter is, well, they won the game
26:58
Speaker 1: and it doesn't make sense.
27:00
Speaker 2: Well, speaking of that, Hurts is the first QB since
27:02
Speaker 2: at least nineteen ninety one with multiple such wins in
27:05
Speaker 2: the single season.
27:07
Speaker 1: That's crazy. I mean that makes sense. Like, who wins
27:11
Speaker 1: a game without a completion in the second half other
27:14
Speaker 1: than Jillen Hurts twice in the year.
27:15
Speaker 2: It's extremely atypical. It's not it's not a replicable model
27:20
Speaker 2: for sure.
27:21
Speaker 1: It's not something that you know, Nick Sirianni and the
27:24
Speaker 1: chemp pet will go, hey man, look at that history
27:26
Speaker 1: that we just made That's awesome.
27:30
Speaker 2: Wow.
27:31
Speaker 1: Okay, go ahead.
27:33
Speaker 2: Well, I was going to say we talked about being
27:35
Speaker 2: broken records, because that's what we are. But now we're
27:38
Speaker 2: going to talk about records that are broken, which is
27:41
Speaker 2: a little bit more fun and you know, a positive
27:44
Speaker 2: way we can look at the offense, yes, because we
27:48
Speaker 2: need some positivity going into the new year, you know,
27:51
Speaker 2: I think so, particularly on the offensive side of the ball.
27:55
Speaker 2: Dallas Goddard's eleven receiving touchdowns broke the record for most
28:00
Speaker 2: receiving touchdowns in a single season. And then aj Brown
28:04
Speaker 2: recorded a thousand plus season for yards in all four
28:09
Speaker 2: seasons with Philadelphia, setting a new franchise record which was
28:12
Speaker 2: previously tied at three among a lot of Philadelphia greats.
28:18
Speaker 2: And then Brown is the tenth player in NFL history
28:20
Speaker 2: with a thousand plus receiving yards and six of his
28:23
Speaker 2: first seven seasons. Wow.
28:26
Speaker 1: Wow, it's amazing. Guy going back to Goddar to have
28:29
Speaker 1: taken a pay cut and then have your most your
28:32
Speaker 1: best and most productive receiving touchdowns season in franchise history
28:37
Speaker 1: is really something.
28:37
Speaker 2: Huh. Yeah, it's definitely worth saying that. It's good they
28:42
Speaker 2: brought him back. A lot of his touchdowns have kind
28:44
Speaker 2: of manufactured looks in that red zone area they are
28:47
Speaker 2: and I.
28:47
Speaker 1: Think that's that's you know, say, I'm glad you brought
28:49
Speaker 1: that up. I think that that is one of the few,
28:52
Speaker 1: if any, maybe the only sign of sort of growth
28:55
Speaker 1: that we've seen under Kim Batoola with the Eagles offense.
28:57
Speaker 1: And they've actually talked about, I know, Dallas and I've
29:00
Speaker 1: heard Kevin talk about going into this year wanting to
29:04
Speaker 1: do some different things in the red zone, specifically with Dallas,
29:08
Speaker 1: and it's actually worked, you know, whether it's the shovel pass,
29:10
Speaker 1: the tush pushes, the you know that doesn't sound that
29:15
Speaker 1: he scored against the Bills was more of sort of
29:16
Speaker 1: your block and leak out right, But it was wide
29:19
Speaker 1: open and it was a good play against that coverage
29:22
Speaker 1: because it looked like two guys were covering one and
29:24
Speaker 1: Goddard was by himself. So they've done some really good
29:27
Speaker 1: things with Goddard in the low red zone especially.
29:29
Speaker 2: Yeah, but the problem is getting there.
29:33
Speaker 1: That's a whole other story. An Aj Brown, you know,
29:39
Speaker 1: he's an interesting one man. He just even in a
29:44
Speaker 1: successful year where he goes over a thousand yards, it
29:46
Speaker 1: just doesn't have the same kind of a usage, same
29:50
Speaker 1: kind of game breaking impact that we saw the first
29:53
Speaker 1: few years of his Eagles career when he would just
29:56
Speaker 1: make all these huge plays down the sidelines or catch
30:00
Speaker 1: something over the middle turn. He now he'll catch something
30:02
Speaker 1: over the middle turn. Get it gets like ten to
30:04
Speaker 1: fifteen extra yards. But there's an explosive element that's not there.
30:07
Speaker 1: And I don't know if that's him or just the
30:09
Speaker 1: offense dragging him down.
30:11
Speaker 2: I think it's a little bit of both, probably, and
30:14
Speaker 2: it has been all year.
30:15
Speaker 1: So look at that crew of Harold Carmichael, Deshaun Jackson,
30:21
Speaker 1: like quick, that's a pretty good company for aj there.
30:23
Speaker 2: Yeah, it is, it really.
30:26
Speaker 1: Is, Yes, thank you. You know, Harold is such an awesome,
30:30
Speaker 1: awesome dude. I talked to Harold as much as I can.
30:32
Speaker 1: He's very quiet, but he has a lot of knowledge.
30:37
Speaker 1: And whenever the Eagles, remember when the Eagles took a
30:39
Speaker 1: couple of flyers on some receivers that were six foot.
30:42
Speaker 2: Five or taller, like Johnny Wilson.
30:44
Speaker 1: Johnny well before even before that, they had this kid
30:46
Speaker 1: MoMA a Fani MoMA. Yeah, a hybrid tight end wide receiver.
30:51
Speaker 1: And then there was another one who went to play
30:54
Speaker 1: for the Cardinals. I can't I can see him making
30:56
Speaker 1: these catches, but I can't remember his name, something Floyd,
31:02
Speaker 1: maybe I just I can see him. He's a really tall,
31:05
Speaker 1: lengthy receiver. But you know, Harold would talk to me
31:08
Speaker 1: about how difficult it was to be his height and
31:10
Speaker 1: play in the league, specifically with defenders always coming at
31:13
Speaker 1: your legs and also your ability to get in and
31:15
Speaker 1: out of breaks when you've got these like stilts, right,
31:18
Speaker 1: And he was amazing at it and very one of
31:22
Speaker 1: a kind, unique player. Good guy, great guy.
31:25
Speaker 2: That's awesome. Yeah, no doubt.
31:27
Speaker 1: All right, onto the defense. Yay, we have something underlined here,
31:33
Speaker 1: bolded and underlined.
31:34
Speaker 2: Yeah, so their EPA per play at minus zero point
31:39
Speaker 2: one four is now the second best in the NFL.
31:43
Speaker 1: To who, let me guess, Texans. You're right, Yes, I
31:47
Speaker 1: like I think the Texans are the best defense in
31:48
Speaker 1: the NFL.
31:49
Speaker 2: Yes, they they. I think the Eagles are right behind them.
31:53
Speaker 2: I think it's very close.
31:54
Speaker 1: Broncos pretty good too, probably right up all three there.
31:59
Speaker 2: But I wanted to point it out because you look
32:02
Speaker 2: at that, that's the second best in the NFL, right,
32:05
Speaker 2: and then you look and they still beat it in
32:08
Speaker 2: this game.
32:09
Speaker 1: How about that?
32:10
Speaker 2: But significantly, right, I think why I wanted to bring
32:13
Speaker 2: it up. That's a big reason why it's bold, and
32:15
Speaker 2: it's for me to remind everybody that that is. It's
32:18
Speaker 2: incredible that they're at this. It's even more incredible that
32:21
Speaker 2: against the Bill's offense with James Cook, who's been great
32:24
Speaker 2: and Josh Allen, who's been one of the best quarterbacks
32:27
Speaker 2: in the NFL, who's been MVP multiple times. You know,
32:31
Speaker 2: it's it's worth staying that saying that they even against
32:34
Speaker 2: good competition, they're exceeding it.
32:37
Speaker 1: Yeah, great stuff, Wow, and by a lot. I mean
32:41
Speaker 1: these are really significant numbers. Minus point two two on
32:44
Speaker 1: per play and minus point three seven per passes.
32:47
Speaker 2: That's a huge golf it really is. And it just
32:51
Speaker 2: shows you how dominant the defense has been.
32:54
Speaker 1: Absolutely.
32:56
Speaker 2: Yeah, go ahead, no, sorry, go ahead, No.
32:59
Speaker 1: I was gonna say, what else jumps out here?
33:01
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, their quarterback pressure was lower, and that
33:05
Speaker 2: makes sense because Alan can extend. Alan also got the
33:09
Speaker 2: ball out a lot quicker. It's it's actually funny because
33:13
Speaker 2: if you look at some of the sacks has been
33:15
Speaker 2: it was a very obviously a historic sack game. It was.
33:20
Speaker 2: It was pretty great. Yeah, but and all the most
33:23
Speaker 2: of the sacks and not all of them, A decent
33:25
Speaker 2: amount of the sacks came when Alan held the ball
33:27
Speaker 2: too long. A couple that come to mind is when
33:30
Speaker 2: he scrambled up and came around and another one where
33:33
Speaker 2: he just went backwards out of range. Yes, but he.
33:38
Speaker 1: Kind of causes and the Jalen hurts you in a way,
33:40
Speaker 1: he kind of caused some of his own sacks.
33:42
Speaker 2: Yeah, he did. But it's interesting that on average the
33:46
Speaker 2: ball was coming out a lot faster, like they were
33:48
Speaker 2: being very decisive and a lot of those players and
33:51
Speaker 2: they were schemed up that way. And Joe Brady, you know,
33:55
Speaker 2: I'm I always have so much respect and admiration for him.
33:59
Speaker 2: He was at Penn State right before I was there.
34:02
Speaker 2: I have his notebooks with all these notes at Penn State,
34:06
Speaker 2: and it's pretty cool. He he's a cool dude. And
34:10
Speaker 2: I think he's gonna have a lot of success in
34:12
Speaker 2: the league that he already he already has had a
34:14
Speaker 2: lot of success. But yeah, I think it's really impressive
34:19
Speaker 2: that somebody of his caliber, you know, was still stopped
34:23
Speaker 2: at an historic rate by this Eagles defense. I think
34:27
Speaker 2: it shows and as you saw, I did not do
34:30
Speaker 2: a Star of the Statue for the offense because they
34:32
Speaker 2: don't deserve one, right, But I think it really credit
34:36
Speaker 2: to Fangio. As you can see, he'll be a spoiler alert,
34:39
Speaker 2: he'll be the Star of the Statue again for like
34:42
Speaker 2: the fourth time this season because it was truly a
34:45
Speaker 2: defensive masterclass. You could tell just some of the ways
34:49
Speaker 2: that they were reacting that the Bills ran a lot
34:52
Speaker 2: of concepts that that they showed throughout the season and
34:57
Speaker 2: that they didn't necessarily get big plays on. But the
35:00
Speaker 2: Eagles are ready for every single thing that the Bills did. More.
35:03
Speaker 1: I think the Bill's best plays were sort of throw
35:05
Speaker 1: the ball up and hope to come down, like Brandon
35:07
Speaker 1: Cooks and Terrell. Shit, it's not like they were really
35:10
Speaker 1: well orchestrated. You know, you beat you found the great
35:14
Speaker 1: void in the zone and exploited it type place right.
35:17
Speaker 1: Nice And of course vix Blitz rate very low again
35:20
Speaker 1: at twenty one percent, right around a season average of
35:22
Speaker 1: twenty percent. I think, yeah, I could tell he just
35:24
Speaker 1: may have thrown a few extra without Nikobe didn't in
35:27
Speaker 1: their five man pressures because he saw Campbell blitz a
35:31
Speaker 1: few times. He saw Zach Bond line up on the
35:34
Speaker 1: edge and blitz a few times. Right, all right, let's
35:38
Speaker 1: talk about our star of the stat sheet. Are you
35:41
Speaker 1: surprised that Fangio.
35:43
Speaker 2: Is not at all? Not at all? Well, the Eagles
35:47
Speaker 2: recorded all five of their sacks in week seventeen with
35:49
Speaker 2: a four man rush, So even their blitzes were not
35:51
Speaker 2: really successful in terms of in.
35:54
Speaker 1: Terms of sacking. They had josh, like you said, on
35:56
Speaker 1: the run and throwing, you know.
35:57
Speaker 2: Which is still very important, right, Like, I mean, they
36:00
Speaker 2: still were getting pressures, and that's worth mentioning, But in
36:04
Speaker 2: terms of converting those blitzes into sacks that didn't happen.
36:09
Speaker 2: Three of their last four games had at least four
36:13
Speaker 2: sacks with four man rush. In the last four games,
36:16
Speaker 2: eighteen sacks with a four man rush, seven more than
36:19
Speaker 2: any team in the NFL.
36:21
Speaker 1: That's crazy. I mean, if you're going to beat the Eagles,
36:24
Speaker 1: you're gonna have to have a good offensive line. There's
36:26
Speaker 1: just no question. You can't have like a bunch of
36:28
Speaker 1: backups on on your offensive line. I don't think or
36:31
Speaker 1: else they're going to get you. Yeah, I agree, So
36:36
Speaker 1: how about what we have here on Jilex hunting Marcus.
36:38
Speaker 1: I like, how you have Marcus Epsen here. That's good.
36:41
Speaker 2: Yeah, Honestly, I think he needs some credit because he
36:44
Speaker 2: has performed really well and that position was a big
36:47
Speaker 2: question mark when mccouba went down. Sure, particularly honestly, it
36:52
Speaker 2: was a little bit of a question mark sometimes when
36:54
Speaker 2: mkuba was in. But I digress. For he recorded two sacks,
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Speaker 2: tied for second in NFL for weeks it should say
37:04
Speaker 2: wee week seventeen at eleven point one percent sack rate.
37:10
Speaker 2: Marcus Epps led the team and stops and stops are
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Speaker 2: just that is when you stop the Basically it's all
37:16
Speaker 2: about EPA, right, So a stop is where it is
37:19
Speaker 2: negative EPA. Okay, So he led the team in creating
37:23
Speaker 2: negative EPA with five and tackles he was tied with
37:27
Speaker 2: Cooper Gene at nine.
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Speaker 1: He's really been a stabilizer. That's the best way he
37:30
Speaker 1: stabilized their defense with with macouba out. You know, not
37:36
Speaker 1: a volatile player like Sidney Brown, more discipline player, not
37:40
Speaker 1: a great athlete. So you know, maybe at some point
37:43
Speaker 1: somebody can take advantage of that. But what the Eagles
37:46
Speaker 1: pass rush being at is you just needed a stabilizer,
37:49
Speaker 1: and he's absolutely provided he and he and Blanketship are
37:54
Speaker 1: sort of similar in that regard. They're not just they're
37:56
Speaker 1: just not great athletes, but they know where to be.
37:59
Speaker 1: They're Yeah, they're good football queue they're not going to
38:03
Speaker 1: have reckless penalties like Sidney Brown. Right. So, by the way,
38:09
Speaker 1: as I said on a previous show, Sidney Brown is
38:11
Speaker 1: probably gonna start, you know, if they go with the
38:12
Speaker 1: backups against the Commanders, and the Commanders are already man
38:16
Speaker 1: from two weeks ago. I want to fight the Eagles
38:18
Speaker 1: in general, So what could go wrong?
38:20
Speaker 2: Yeah, Sidney Brown, he is reckless, and and that's sometimes
38:26
Speaker 2: a good thing, more oftentimes than not.
38:28
Speaker 1: It's not right.
38:30
Speaker 2: I remember, I think there were two plays in his
38:32
Speaker 2: career where he's hurt his own teammates just by reckless
38:37
Speaker 2: disregard running and look, he wants to make plays, and
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Speaker 2: I get that and I respect it. He's a great
38:43
Speaker 2: he is a good athlete, and I do think he
38:45
Speaker 2: means well. But it's just so hard watching him hurt
38:48
Speaker 2: his own players.
38:49
Speaker 1: Yes, I mean, we had a Patreona ask An Eagle
38:52
Speaker 1: with Quentin Michael, former Eagle safety, very good safety and
38:56
Speaker 1: He explained how as he played dext to Ian Dawkins
39:00
Speaker 1: and learned how to play the game. He explained how
39:03
Speaker 1: you have to learn to play that position specifically at
39:07
Speaker 1: certain speeds. You can't play that position all the time.
39:11
Speaker 1: You play with much effort, but not speed. I'm talking
39:14
Speaker 1: about speed, right. You have to learn to for pursuit
39:17
Speaker 1: angles and for like you're saying, communication with teammates to
39:21
Speaker 1: get into the right spot. You can't just run like
39:23
Speaker 1: your hair's on fire. But that seems what that looks
39:26
Speaker 1: like what Sidney Brown does, Like he can't dial it down,
39:29
Speaker 1: and so you get friendly fire, you get late hits,
39:32
Speaker 1: and you get beat sometimes. But you'll make a play.
39:35
Speaker 1: I mean he's made some plays, but you wind up
39:37
Speaker 1: taking a step forward and then a couple of steps backward.
39:40
Speaker 2: Yeah. I think that's a really good way to say it.
39:43
Speaker 2: I mean, especially with an Eagles great you know, yeah,
39:46
Speaker 2: backup for sure.
39:48
Speaker 1: Now, the BG tracker, this is, uh, this may be
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Speaker 1: the most disappointing BG tracker in weeks because you know,
39:53
Speaker 1: he played his seven snaps last year. Last week it
39:56
Speaker 1: was like incomplete sack interception, sack, sack in complete. This week,
40:01
Speaker 1: you know, they actually made some moves with him on
40:03
Speaker 1: the field.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, and he also played two special teams snaps so
40:07
Speaker 2: BG Yeah, but either way incomplete pass on the first
40:12
Speaker 2: one felt good and then it was six yards nine yards,
40:15
Speaker 2: two yards, nine yards, four yards, six yards.
40:17
Speaker 1: Okay, so you know, nothing too terrible, but I was
40:20
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40:23
Speaker 1: It was unbelievable. And how many in just limited snaps
40:26
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Speaker 2: And up in the postseason. I'm probably gonna retire VG tracker,
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Speaker 2: but I think it's just fun to track.
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Speaker 1: No, no, no, I want this. You still want it?
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Speaker 2: Yeah?
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it's fun because I'm kind of expecting
44:07
Speaker 1: and if it's not, it's still okay. I'm kind of
44:09
Speaker 1: expecting sort of something similar where he plays like six
44:11
Speaker 1: to eight snaps and then like amazing things happen in
44:14
Speaker 1: those in those few snaps.
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Speaker 2: All right, let's do it. Then let's do right.
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Speaker 1: Cool. I liked as long as you don't mind, I
44:19
Speaker 1: like to.
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Speaker 2: I don't mind at all.
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Speaker 1: It's pretty DEEPS like it too. He's a you know
44:22
Speaker 1: everybody loves BG. All right, good stuff, Sam, those were
44:26
Speaker 1: really you made chicken salad, as we say, out of
44:30
Speaker 1: you know what, because yeah, offensively, that was not nothing great.
44:34
Speaker 1: So maybe we'll talk about this before we record next episode.
44:38
Speaker 1: Maybe next episode is a little bit, especially if backups
44:41
Speaker 1: are gonna play, is more of like a you know,
44:44
Speaker 1: the stats that define the season type of season recap. Yeah,
44:48
Speaker 1: season recap instead of a game recap. We'll figure that out.
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Speaker 2: You tell me what you want and we'll get it done.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, you're like the mailman, deliver a right, calme alone.
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Speaker 1: I'm gonna call you all right, my friend. Thank you
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Speaker 1: so much. It's been another great Inside the Data with
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Speaker 1: Sam Finkel. For Sam, I'm Jeff mOsm. We'll catch you
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Speaker 1: all on the next one.
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Speaker 2: Happy New Year.