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Oklahoma City Bombing： One Day in America - True Crime Documentary · The Evolution of Evil - True Crime Stories

• 0:07
  Speaker 1: Still hard to believe. We are looking at our own backyard,
• 0:11
  Speaker 1: the deadliest terrorist attack in the history of this country
• 0:15
  Speaker 1: in downtown Oklahoma City.
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  Speaker 2: Casualties very hard to say.
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  Speaker 3: Is certainly approaching one hundred in terms of injuries, many
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  Speaker 3: of them critical fatalities. A number of reports, none of
• 0:26
  Speaker 3: them absolutely confirmed yet, including one reports that six children
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  Speaker 3: were killed.
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  Speaker 4: No Oklahoma City. More than two hundred FBI agents, forty
• 0:36
  Speaker 4: five US marshals, and dozens of ATF agents are now
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  Speaker 4: involved in a massive man hunt for the bomber.
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  Speaker 5: I'd been a trooper for eighteen and a half years.
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  Speaker 2: You never know what you would encounter.
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  Speaker 5: You get to meet a lot of nice people, to
• 1:03
  Speaker 5: get to meet some evil ones too. So I'm traveling
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  Speaker 5: on Inner State and I come up behind this old
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  Speaker 5: yellow Mercury. I noticed there's no license plate on the
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  Speaker 5: rear bumper, so I became a little suspicious that maybe
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  Speaker 5: the car was stolen again. What I thought was just
• 1:30
  Speaker 5: another routine traffic stop. I got out, and I yelled
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  Speaker 5: for the driver of the vehicle to get out, and
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  Speaker 5: he's not immediately getting out of the car to put
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  Speaker 5: me on a high alert. He looked like a klinka
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  Speaker 5: young guy. I mean he's about six foot tall, slender,
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  Speaker 5: uh military style haircut, he has military boots on. I
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  Speaker 5: could see a ball g under his jacket. I believe
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  Speaker 5: to be a weapon, and I pulled my weapon. I said,
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  Speaker 5: I need to look under your jacket. He slowly ends
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  Speaker 5: up to his jacket and it's just starting to pull
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  Speaker 5: it back when he looks me down and he says,
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  Speaker 5: I have a weapon. I was telling him, you'll get
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  Speaker 5: his hands up and turn around. He says, well, my
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  Speaker 5: weapon is loaded, and I nudged him in the back
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  Speaker 5: of the head with the barrel of my pistol.
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  Speaker 6: And I said, well, so is mine.
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  Speaker 1: People are running like crazy away from the area because
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  Speaker 1: there is a concern for a second exclusion. Unfortunately, there
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  Speaker 1: are still people trapped in the Alfred Murray building.
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  Speaker 2: They are not delaying the rescue efforts that we're going on.
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  Speaker 7: The evacuation efforts and issue can well imagine these kinds.
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  Speaker 3: Of critical emergency situations.
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  Speaker 2: Time really is the difference between life and death. As
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  Speaker 2: soon as she comes back, then to get her.
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  Speaker 8: Up on a live shot or ride the building.
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  Speaker 2: I don't want you to be in danger.
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  Speaker 8: Day.
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  Speaker 6: We've getting confirmation out a students.
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  Speaker 9: More advices have been found in the building.
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  Speaker 1: What's same, Yeah, Rick FBI, what's the same?
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  Speaker 2: Just thought?
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  Speaker 1: What is so evil in someone's heart that would make
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  Speaker 1: them do this? I mean, what who are you?
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  Speaker 10: We do need to send producers now to theseus so
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  Speaker 10: you guys figure out people do you want to go down?
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  Speaker 1: And my news directors like, get down there, get miked up,
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  Speaker 1: so if they come to you, Robin, you'll be ready
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  Speaker 1: to go. We're in the car heading to downtown Oklahoma City.
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  Speaker 1: I can remember if someone on the radio set we've
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  Speaker 1: gotten a call. We think this is something from the
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  Speaker 1: Middle East.
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  Speaker 11: There have been some reports that police are looking for
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  Speaker 11: a light blue pickup truck.
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  Speaker 12: With three Middle Eastern men inside, well dams on it.
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  Speaker 1: When I first got there, people were running for their lives.
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  Speaker 2: I was still.
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  Speaker 5: We had word from the fire department and there were
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  Speaker 5: people still trapped inside the building.
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  Speaker 2: And that's what makes you so darn man, knowing that
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  Speaker 2: people are in there that need.
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  Speaker 13: Help but they can't get to them.
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  Speaker 2: We also are getting more then there might be an
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  Speaker 2: ATF agents.
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  Speaker 11: Trapped on the ninth floor of the Alpha Femoral building.
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  Speaker 7: My friend Luke Franie was still trapped on the ninth floor,
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  Speaker 7: but I was hunkered next to a wall waiting for
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  Speaker 7: the blast to go off, and I put my finger
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  Speaker 7: in one ear and had the radio on the other.
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  Speaker 7: I kept trying to hit him on the radio, Luke Luke,
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  Speaker 7: And I did that for about five minutes, but nobody's answering.
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  Speaker 7: That's when I'm thinking the worst.
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  Speaker 12: People screaming for help, people screaming in pain. To see
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  Speaker 12: literally everybody sprinting away from the building.
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  Speaker 2: Was terrifying.
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  Speaker 12: Because at that point it really sinks in that your
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  Speaker 12: trap hanging.
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  Speaker 2: Out the window on the night floor.
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  Speaker 12: That's when I got scared because it was like, Wow,
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  Speaker 12: this is really happening, and I've got to make a
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  Speaker 12: decision here. The bombing cut the ATFA office in half.
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  Speaker 2: There was a.
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  Speaker 12: Large portion of the floor missing, maybe ten or fifteen feet.
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  Speaker 2: I didn't think I could make could across.
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  Speaker 12: Things flashed before you, and you think about your children,
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  Speaker 12: You think about you know, your loved ones, your family,
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  Speaker 12: whether you're going to get to see them again. I'm
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  Speaker 12: literally thinking that there is another bomb with a timer
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  Speaker 12: on it, and there is a countdown, and I think
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  Speaker 12: I'd rather die try to get out than.
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  Speaker 2: Going through another explosion.
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  Speaker 12: But it looked like you literally took the entire inside
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  Speaker 12: of the building, put it in a blender, turned it on,
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  Speaker 12: and dumped it back out and you've got a twenty
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  Speaker 12: to thirty nine Oklahoma wind blowing. And the whole building
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  Speaker 12: was just shake. It was going back and forth like this.
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  Speaker 12: I was having to kick and punched my way through drywall.
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  Speaker 12: Eventually I was able to open the door and I
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  Speaker 12: was like, all right, there's a stairwell, so I'm thinking
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  Speaker 12: beat the clock. I am literally sprinting down the stairwell,
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  Speaker 12: holding onto the rail and I'm running down the stairs
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  Speaker 12: and I start kind of slipping and sliding, and I
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  Speaker 12: stopped for a minute look and I realized that the handrails,
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  Speaker 12: you know, are covered in blood. Stairwells are covered in blood.
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  Speaker 12: And I was just like, oh man. So I just
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  Speaker 12: kept going and eventually got down to the second floor
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  Speaker 12: where the plaza was, and that door opened and.
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  Speaker 2: I ran away from the building. As I come out to.
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  Speaker 12: The area where the agents were standing, they were all
• 8:50
  Speaker 12: there looking up at the ninth floor because they had
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  Speaker 12: no idea, you know, I had gotten out, and I
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  Speaker 12: walk up and grabbed.
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  Speaker 2: Mark by the shoulder.
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  Speaker 9: And I look and there's Luke.
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  Speaker 2: That's when my knees kind of buckled a little bit.
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  Speaker 12: Mark was very happy to see me, and I was
• 9:18
  Speaker 12: very happy to see him.
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  Speaker 9: I was so relieved that he was fine. But it's like,
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  Speaker 9: I'm sorry that I didn't do more to help you.
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  Speaker 12: You know, why why did myself and others get out
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  Speaker 12: of the building, and why did a lot of other
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  Speaker 12: people not? And I don't think I don't think you
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  Speaker 12: ever get the answer to that.
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  Speaker 8: We got the Northwest.
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  Speaker 9: Friends that i'd just seen the day before, they're no
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  Speaker 9: longer there. You just kind of take all that and
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  Speaker 9: you compartmentalize it the best you can, and then you
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  Speaker 9: tuck that away as deep as you can and go
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  Speaker 9: do the job you were hired to do.
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  Speaker 14: I mean, you have no bomb, grow bad, a bound
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  Speaker 14: pack of clear the front of the building for the operation.
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  Speaker 14: Can someone passes the wagers right away?
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  Speaker 15: I wanted to, all right, Kevin, we havent if you
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  Speaker 15: can hold on.
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  Speaker 1: The line of new information for a year.
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  Speaker 5: The police have confirmed down the Federal building that they
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  Speaker 5: have disarmed a second device.
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  Speaker 16: It was a great relief that I learned it was
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  Speaker 16: not actually a bomb. It was a mock up of
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  Speaker 16: a missile that was used for training by one of
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  Speaker 16: the agencies in the building. Now we have to solve this,
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  Speaker 16: and solve it as quickly as possible. For me, the
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  Speaker 16: pressure was truly overwhelming. You're talking about a massive crime scene.
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  Speaker 16: I was walking west, roughly a block away from the
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  Speaker 16: Mirror building and I come upon a couple of agents
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  Speaker 16: and a deputy sheriff that are surrounding this this metal
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  Speaker 16: piece that's laying there in the street. They told me
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  Speaker 16: that more than likely this is something that exploded from
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  Speaker 16: the bomb itself. It became clear that this is a
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  Speaker 16: rear axle out of the vehicle that was used to
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  Speaker 16: deliver the bomb. The I N numbers is printed on
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  Speaker 16: all the major pieces in a vehicle.
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  Speaker 2: I said, guard this with your lives.
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  Speaker 16: This could be the most important evidence that we have
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  Speaker 16: in this whole crime scene. This is going to be
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  Speaker 16: the first step in identifying it least the type of truck,
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  Speaker 16: and more than likely can lead to the identification of
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  Speaker 16: the person who rented the truck.
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  Speaker 17: It was complete silence. It was pitch black. I couldn't
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  Speaker 17: see anything. I'm laying there thinking this is it. No
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  Speaker 17: one's coming.
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  Speaker 2: Already backed out once. I'm not backing out again.
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  Speaker 6: The area that Amy.
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  Speaker 2: Was in was real unstable.
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  Speaker 17: My worst fear was we came back she had been gone.
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  Speaker 12: You're racing the clock to get them out, and you
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  Speaker 12: can barely get to them, much less get them out.
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  Speaker 17: And then I hear commotion and I hear what sounds
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  Speaker 17: like men's voices.
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  Speaker 11: When we first crawled down into what was deemed the pit,
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  Speaker 11: it was an incredibly scary place because you could still
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  Speaker 11: feel some of the vibration in the building. There was
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  Speaker 11: a fireman pulling and things away from Amy.
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  Speaker 2: To try to fear.
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  Speaker 11: At that moment, talking to her was all I could
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  Speaker 11: do to help.
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  Speaker 17: There was a man who seemed very friendly, and I
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  Speaker 17: just remember feeling like I heard his voice that there
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  Speaker 17: was somebody that was gonna save me.
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  Speaker 11: I'm a member of the Blackfeet Nation of Montana and
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  Speaker 11: the Wichita Tribe of Oklahoma. There's this whole camaraderie that
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  Speaker 11: in those communities, if somebody's in need, somebody helps. I
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  Speaker 11: couldn't really imagine how Amy was still alive. There was
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  Speaker 11: this wedge, a huge slab of concrete that was laying
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  Speaker 11: at an angle. She was buried in tons of rubble,
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  Speaker 11: still in her office chair, the blood trails leading away
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  Speaker 11: from desks.
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  Speaker 17: I remember him joking with me, and he took my
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  Speaker 17: hand and put it around a boot of somebody. It
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  Speaker 17: made me feel like someone was going to take care
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  Speaker 17: of me.
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  Speaker 11: She said, if you guys can get me out of here,
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  Speaker 11: I'm gonna bake your chocolate chip cookies. I mean, it
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  Speaker 11: sounds that's strange as hell to say it, but there
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  Speaker 11: was this calmness to what was going on right there.
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  Speaker 12: I've never seen the lights as a poor little kid
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  Speaker 12: that you know, they're all married under their stair.
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  Speaker 8: I can't get to the kids.
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  Speaker 1: I moved.
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  Speaker 14: I started moving up, trying to find a place to
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  Speaker 14: put the rubble, and I found two more little kids
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  Speaker 14: underneaed you know.
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  Speaker 1: I moved acauson stuck part and there was a lady
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  Speaker 1: looking me in the place.
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  Speaker 18: Couldn't lay up, man.
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  Speaker 19: I dare lord.
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  Speaker 20: See, I think.
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  Speaker 1: The doctors lest so I be governor here.
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  Speaker 8: He's wady to go, and you're clamoring for it.
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  Speaker 21: You gotta come to us, and right now, I.
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  Speaker 8: And you guys get it on the here.
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  Speaker 2: I'm not kidding. You better go.
• 16:58
  Speaker 1: We're gonna get.
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  Speaker 20: Pulled away, give it, and that he's going to steal
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  Speaker 20: the governor if we don't do it.
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  Speaker 8: Now what we're doing episode?
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  Speaker 18: Yes, Governor Keating is right here.
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  Speaker 2: Have you toured the scene?
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  Speaker 1: What can you tell us?
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  Speaker 22: Bust unspeakable horror and tragedy for.
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  Speaker 14: The families involved, our sympathies.
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  Speaker 22: And prayers for the perpetrators that we'll get them. You're
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  Speaker 22: operating by the seat of your pants. Really, I was
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  Speaker 22: not trained to respond to a building collapse and a bombing.
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  Speaker 12: The number of casualties engined in debt are going to
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  Speaker 12: be very substantial.
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  Speaker 2: I know lots of the people in there.
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  Speaker 22: Well, it's bear roots, I mean, it's it's just incredible.
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  Speaker 20: Governor Keating telling us about his tour through the scene.
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  Speaker 22: A while later, we were walking and I saw a
• 17:49
  Speaker 22: firefighter coming up and I said, thank you very much
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  Speaker 22: for being here. He was rather horror He said, well
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  Speaker 22: who are you? And I said, I'm the governor of
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  Speaker 22: the state. Then you would expect him to say, oh, God,
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  Speaker 22: are nice to meet you.
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  Speaker 2: He didn't.
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  Speaker 22: He took his finger and he stuck it in my
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  Speaker 22: chest and he said, well, then you find out who
• 18:07
  Speaker 22: did this, because the only thing I pulled from that
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  Speaker 22: rubble was a child's finger and an American flag, and
• 18:13
  Speaker 22: he stormed on up the street. He was angry, and
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  Speaker 22: who wouldn't be.
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  Speaker 16: We set up a mobile command post and put together
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  Speaker 16: the investigative team. At that point, we had no specific
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  Speaker 16: clues other than the VIN number on the rear axle,
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  Speaker 16: So we get an agent to run the number through
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  Speaker 16: one of our databases, and then we get a call
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  Speaker 16: back that there was a hit. It matches to a
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  Speaker 16: rider truck rented out of Junction City, Kansas. One of
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  Speaker 16: my agents went down there and we quickly learned that
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  Speaker 16: the truck had been rented by a Bob Kling. So
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  Speaker 16: now we have the name of Robert Kling. We don't
• 19:18
  Speaker 16: know any Robert Kling. He doesn't appear in any of
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  Speaker 16: our databases, but at least we now have a name.
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  Speaker 16: So they find a mechanic who has the best recollection
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  Speaker 16: of what the renter looked like. So we sent a
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  Speaker 16: sketch artist out there to get a composite drawing of
• 19:36
  Speaker 16: the suspect. This could be the breakthrough that we desperately needed.
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  Speaker 5: Sort baseball in that situation, we developed a reputation to
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  Speaker 5: these late agency.
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  Speaker 22: It was just such a blizzard. You're up to your
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  Speaker 22: eyeballs in trying to make sure that everything that needs
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  Speaker 22: to be done is being done.
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  Speaker 2: I was in our command and center trying.
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  Speaker 22: To get briefed by people there as to what they
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  Speaker 22: thought occurred.
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  Speaker 6: At one point.
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  Speaker 12: Down here, it's controlling the access of the recovery teams,
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  Speaker 12: pulling the bodies in and out and taking it to
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  Speaker 12: the more area.
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  Speaker 22: And then it was informed that the President wanted to
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  Speaker 22: talk to me.
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  Speaker 20: I was just shell shocked by the sheer scope of
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  Speaker 20: the killing, and I wanted us US, meaning the United
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  Speaker 20: States government, to be there for the state and for
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  Speaker 20: the city. So I would called the governor of Oklahoma.
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  Speaker 20: I knew it when we were in college. It was
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  Speaker 20: actually a year or so ahead of me at Georgetown.
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  Speaker 20: Our politics were very different, but I knew that I
• 21:05
  Speaker 20: was talking to somebody that, whatever the politics were, trusted.
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  Speaker 6: To be on the level.
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  Speaker 22: He immediately said, what in the world is going on?
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  Speaker 22: What help do you need from me? And I said,
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  Speaker 22: if you can send FEMA teams, then we're going to
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  Speaker 22: be in a position to respond, as we should save
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  Speaker 22: a lot of lives and find out who did this.
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  Speaker 20: I remember almost immediately, I said, you know, everybody's going
• 21:33
  Speaker 20: to think this is a foreign terrorist incidently, but I
• 21:39
  Speaker 20: thought it was very important not to make that assumptions.
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: As soon as I d he wants him to door,
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  Speaker 1: We want him to send his tape back to the taper.
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  Speaker 6: He's got great, awesome.
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  Speaker 1: Tape, he says. It's just kind of like journalism one
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  Speaker 1: oh one?
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  Speaker 20: Who?
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  Speaker 18: What?
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  Speaker 22: Where?
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  Speaker 6: Why?
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  Speaker 10: What we need to know is like a history of
• 22:04
  Speaker 10: terrorism bombings in the US. I wonder if we owned
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  Speaker 10: a tape of any of those.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, is there anything comparable?
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  Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean day not you.
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  Speaker 1: It just got us thinking, why, Oklahoma, why today? The
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: moment that bomb went off, we just wanted to figure
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: it out, and then viewers started calling.
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  Speaker 7: In, Okay, you.
• 22:46
  Speaker 10: Guys, can somebody find out is this the second anniversary
• 22:49
  Speaker 10: of Waco?
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  Speaker 23: Same day?
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  Speaker 20: Is it the same day?
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  Speaker 19: That's why it's Then.
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: In the newsroom we started realizing what was really playing
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: out in the correlation of April nineteenth, the fact that
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: it was two years to the day since the end
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: of the Waco siege. There's like no way this could
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: be a coincidence. And then we realized that some of
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  Speaker 1: the same government agents who had been at Waco worked
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: in Oklahoma City, some of them in the Mura Federal Building.
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  Speaker 16: The Waco siege was a standoff between the United States
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  Speaker 16: government and Texas law enforcement against a religious cult known
• 23:59
  Speaker 16: as the Branch Davidians. You had the leader of this cult,
• 24:04
  Speaker 16: David Koresh, living on this compound with his followers and
• 24:08
  Speaker 16: their families.
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  Speaker 2: You will not.
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  Speaker 8: Be ashamed for all yours.
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  Speaker 15: Since you community, as me, sounds good.
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  Speaker 2: Shots, you never do it.
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  Speaker 16: It started off with the ATF, the Alcohol, Tobacco and
• 24:28
  Speaker 16: Firearms Agency, receiving a complaint that grenades were found in
• 24:33
  Speaker 16: a shipment that was going to the Branch Davidians.
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  Speaker 21: They fear inside is heavily armed portress.
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  Speaker 6: There is not only an.
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  Speaker 16: Arsenal of illegal weapons, but also hand grenades and rocket launchers.
• 24:44
  Speaker 12: They were violating the Federal Firearms Loss their manufacturing machine
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  Speaker 12: guns illegally, making improvised explosive devices illegally. ATF obtained a
• 24:55
  Speaker 12: search warrant for the Davidian compound, and ATF tempted to
• 25:00
  Speaker 12: execute search warrant.
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  Speaker 9: I was with a small group of agents that were
• 25:16
  Speaker 9: assigned to a sniper team.
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  Speaker 12: In the gun battle with the Davidians. Four of our
• 25:23
  Speaker 12: agents were killed and twenty were wounded.
• 25:26
  Speaker 16: As a result of the total failure of that raid,
• 25:31
  Speaker 16: the FBI was asked to come in and take over.
• 25:35
  Speaker 16: I was the chief spokesperson for the FBI, and I
• 25:38
  Speaker 16: also worked with the negotiators and trying to negotiate people out.
• 25:43
  Speaker 23: We're using non lethal means. We are not assaulting the place.
• 25:47
  Speaker 23: We had no FBI agents go into the compound, even
• 25:50
  Speaker 23: though we have probably had over two hundred rounds of
• 25:52
  Speaker 23: ammunition fired at us.
• 25:54
  Speaker 16: After fifty one days, decision was made to tear gas
• 25:59
  Speaker 16: the Branch Davidian to drive them out.
• 26:01
  Speaker 21: The Bradley armored vehicle begins to punch holes in the
• 26:04
  Speaker 21: flimsy walls. A boom attached to the Bradley pump's non
• 26:08
  Speaker 21: lethal tear gas at fifteen second intervals inside the compound.
• 26:12
  Speaker 21: The FBI says the device is designed not to create
• 26:15
  Speaker 21: sparks that could cause fire.
• 26:16
  Speaker 16: Once we tear gas the place. After approximately six hours,
• 26:23
  Speaker 16: the Branch Davidians decided to set the place on fire.
• 26:29
  Speaker 16: Some people were coming up with these horrible theories about
• 26:32
  Speaker 16: what the FBI had done, Claims that we had prevented
• 26:37
  Speaker 16: people from escaping from Waco, that we purposefully set fire
• 26:41
  Speaker 16: to the Branch Davidian compound and assassinated literally those people inside.
• 26:50
  Speaker 11: I was at Waco, and at the end of the
• 26:52
  Speaker 11: day there was tragic loss of life. Children died that day,
• 26:57
  Speaker 11: and that's raised a lot of contra.
• 27:00
  Speaker 7: Person Unfortunately, seventy six Branch Davidians died that day. When
• 27:05
  Speaker 7: the bombing happened in Oklahoma City, we were thinking, well,
• 27:08
  Speaker 7: maybe somebody was mad at us for Waco and was
• 27:11
  Speaker 7: trying to get back at us.
• 27:14
  Speaker 16: Some extreme right wing groups believed that the Davidians were
• 27:19
  Speaker 16: attacked because of Second Amendment issues because they owned weapons.
• 27:26
  Speaker 16: So once we'd realized the correlation between the date of
• 27:30
  Speaker 16: Waco and the date of the bombing, we suspected that
• 27:33
  Speaker 16: the person we were after might have done this because
• 27:37
  Speaker 16: they were angry at the government.
• 28:06
  Speaker 17: I had been trapped in the rubble for six and
• 28:08
  Speaker 17: a half hours. The firefighter says, Amy, we're gonna count
• 28:15
  Speaker 17: to three and we're gonna pull, and this is probably
• 28:19
  Speaker 17: gonna hurt. And I said, do it, okay, And they
• 28:25
  Speaker 17: counted to three and they pulled, and every nerve came
• 28:29
  Speaker 17: alive in my body. But for the first time I
• 28:35
  Speaker 17: was out and I could see they took me out
• 28:42
  Speaker 17: of the back of the Federal building on the gurney.
• 28:47
  Speaker 17: But I remember looking at the sky and promising God
• 28:50
  Speaker 17: that I will never live my life the same. I
• 28:54
  Speaker 17: will never take it for granted.
• 29:00
  Speaker 2: Are coming out? Was you four for me?
• 29:03
  Speaker 16: You can't imagine the exhaustion, all that frustration.
• 29:08
  Speaker 2: I raced against the clock. We just won.
• 29:20
  Speaker 17: I know, Mom, I'm okay.
• 29:24
  Speaker 15: I love you too.
• 29:26
  Speaker 17: Everything hurt, but I was so relieved to be out.
• 29:33
  Speaker 17: And I see my husband and I see the worried
• 29:36
  Speaker 17: look on his face, and I looked to him and said,
• 29:44
  Speaker 17: so do you think this means that we can't close
• 29:46
  Speaker 17: in our house tomorrow? So I thought if I could
• 29:49
  Speaker 17: make a joke, he would know. I'm okay. You know
• 29:53
  Speaker 17: it's gonna be okay.
• 29:55
  Speaker 2: My coworkers are my friends.
• 29:56
  Speaker 9: I love them.
• 29:58
  Speaker 17: I just I hope that they find them. I really
• 30:00
  Speaker 17: hope they find them, and I hope they're alive. I
• 30:04
  Speaker 17: held out such hope that they were going to find
• 30:06
  Speaker 17: everybody else. I just knew if they found me, they're
• 30:09
  Speaker 17: going to find the others. They just have to get
• 30:11
  Speaker 17: to them. But then as people kept calling and asking
• 30:19
  Speaker 17: did I remember what this person was wearing or that
• 30:21
  Speaker 17: person was wearing, and no one else was coming out
• 30:25
  Speaker 17: of the building alive. Then I'm realizing that they're trying
• 30:33
  Speaker 17: to identify the bodies and they're wanting to know what
• 30:37
  Speaker 17: they were wearing. I didn't realize that I was going
• 30:43
  Speaker 17: to be one of the very last people that they
• 30:46
  Speaker 17: got out of the building alive.
• 30:56
  Speaker 1: Can tell us about how bambar All right, guys, we're
• 30:59
  Speaker 1: here at the Tree Center. We are east of where
• 31:01
  Speaker 1: the building is.
• 31:02
  Speaker 10: These nurses from this Treod Center where we were anticipating
• 31:05
  Speaker 10: they were going to be bringing some of.
• 31:07
  Speaker 1: The people who were wounded here.
• 31:08
  Speaker 10: We've set up with about probably three to four hundred
• 31:11
  Speaker 10: volunteers here. And tell me your name and tell me
• 31:13
  Speaker 10: what they've just told you here at this Treod Center.
• 31:15
  Speaker 6: My name's Joe N.
• 31:16
  Speaker 20: McCurley.
• 31:17
  Speaker 1: They just told us they found eighty people and only
• 31:20
  Speaker 1: two were alive, and they tell.
• 31:22
  Speaker 17: Us all to go home.
• 31:28
  Speaker 1: Thank you.
• 31:28
  Speaker 20: I've been all.
• 31:30
  Speaker 21: Ready to go.
• 31:31
  Speaker 1: Oh God, you can't comprehend that at that time, so
• 31:37
  Speaker 1: many people lost their lives, you know, in a moment's notice.
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: It's devastating.
• 31:44
  Speaker 6: Whoaw this?
• 31:45
  Speaker 13: Will people?
• 31:47
  Speaker 6: How could the people do this sad. It's sad.
• 32:01
  Speaker 2: I don't believe this.
• 32:12
  Speaker 1: By the end of that night, it was like you
• 32:15
  Speaker 1: felt like the whole world was shattered.
• 32:37
  Speaker 2: Ladies and gentlemen.
• 32:38
  Speaker 6: The President of the United States.
• 32:43
  Speaker 20: And then the country would be profoundly disturbed. I wanted
• 32:48
  Speaker 20: to both comfort and reassure them, and to steal their
• 32:50
  Speaker 20: spines from whatever we might.
• 32:52
  Speaker 2: Have to do to deal with it.
• 32:54
  Speaker 6: That's me.
• 32:55
  Speaker 2: Let's be seated.
• 32:57
  Speaker 20: And all the time, I'm just thinking about all these
• 32:59
  Speaker 20: two that were killed at the day care center, and
• 33:03
  Speaker 20: was particularly painful for me because a man who had
• 33:07
  Speaker 20: been on my Secret Service security detail, al Witcher, who
• 33:12
  Speaker 20: we all thought was great. He had applied to transfer
• 33:17
  Speaker 20: to Oklahoma City because he had little kids and he
• 33:20
  Speaker 20: thought it would be a good place to raise his family.
• 33:24
  Speaker 20: And the idea that some body thought it was okay
• 33:30
  Speaker 20: to snuff out his life and robs kids and the
• 33:34
  Speaker 20: father for whatever reason I found insane.
• 33:39
  Speaker 4: Whoever did it, we will find out and there will
• 33:44
  Speaker 4: be justice that will be swift and certain and severe.
• 33:49
  Speaker 4: And there is no place to hide. Nobody can hide
• 33:52
  Speaker 4: any place in this country. Nobody can hide any place
• 33:55
  Speaker 4: in this world from the terrible consequences of.
• 33:58
  Speaker 2: What had been done.
• 34:00
  Speaker 4: This was an attack on innocent children, on innocent victims,
• 34:04
  Speaker 4: on the people there in Oklahoma City.
• 34:07
  Speaker 2: But make no mistake about it, this was.
• 34:08
  Speaker 4: An attack on the United States, our way of life,
• 34:11
  Speaker 4: and everything we believe in.
• 34:13
  Speaker 2: Thank you very much.
• 34:23
  Speaker 16: The artist's impression of the suspect was facts to us,
• 34:26
  Speaker 16: and it gave us further confirmation and ceemented what we'd suspected.
• 34:33
  Speaker 2: He was not Middle Eastern.
• 34:35
  Speaker 16: He was white, with a crew cut, clean shaven, and
• 34:38
  Speaker 16: was wearing military gear. Now we had to find this
• 34:43
  Speaker 16: person and get them behind bars so they no longer
• 34:46
  Speaker 16: pose a threat to other innocent life out there. We
• 34:52
  Speaker 16: flooded Junction City, Kansas with agents.
• 34:55
  Speaker 3: Did he noticed a writer trug or a yellow trug.
• 34:59
  Speaker 16: Trying to find I'm one that had seen someone that
• 35:02
  Speaker 16: looked like the artist's conception that had a writer truck.
• 35:05
  Speaker 6: Hey doing. We're kind of conducting the reification of an
• 35:08
  Speaker 6: overflom with city barman.
• 35:09
  Speaker 16: We were going to business establishments, motels, restaurants, anywhere we
• 35:16
  Speaker 16: could think of in the area, but nobody had seen anything.
• 35:28
  Speaker 16: Then we tried the Dreamland Motel. Leah, the general manager says,
• 35:36
  Speaker 16: a matter of fact, I did see the young guy.
• 35:42
  Speaker 16: He registered in room twenty five as Tim McVeigh. Then
• 35:51
  Speaker 16: we pull all of his telephone records and we find
• 35:54
  Speaker 16: out on Saturday night he calls a local Chinese food place.
• 36:00
  Speaker 16: The name on the order was Bob Kling.
• 36:07
  Speaker 2: So lights go off.
• 36:10
  Speaker 16: We now have a Timothy mcveig. We don't know who
• 36:13
  Speaker 16: he is. We have a Bob Kling, We don't know
• 36:15
  Speaker 16: who he is. We know we got two names now
• 36:18
  Speaker 16: that are connected with the bombing, so we ran.
• 36:26
  Speaker 7: A search on one of our government databases per name
• 36:30
  Speaker 7: of Timothy James McVay. We find out there's a highway
• 36:35
  Speaker 7: patrol trooper name Charlie Hanger. He remembers hooking up a
• 36:40
  Speaker 7: guy on the morning of the bombing with the last
• 36:42
  Speaker 7: name of McVeigh, and it was taken to Noble County
• 36:48
  Speaker 7: Jail in Perie, Oklahoma.
• 36:51
  Speaker 9: So I'm thinking, okay, we got something.
• 36:53
  Speaker 5: Maybe I hadn't thought too much about that arrest at all.
• 37:00
  Speaker 5: Job was finished, most people would have been released the
• 37:04
  Speaker 5: next morning.
• 37:10
  Speaker 9: So I call up. I said, hey, listen, Charlie Hanker
• 37:15
  Speaker 9: hooked an old boy up.
• 37:16
  Speaker 2: On Wednesday morning and brought him to your jail.
• 37:19
  Speaker 9: Do you have any information on that? He said, yeah, well,
• 37:23
  Speaker 9: hold on here for a second, and I'm talking, and
• 37:25
  Speaker 9: about that time, everybody else seems to put their phone down,
• 37:28
  Speaker 9: and it's just one of those just surreal moments, and
• 37:32
  Speaker 9: so I'm waiting and I'm waiting, I'm waiting, and finally
• 37:34
  Speaker 9: comes back. He goes, yeah, Mark, that guy that Charlie arrested. Yeah, yeah, no,
• 37:43
  Speaker 9: he's still here. He goes, his name's Timothy James McVeigh.
• 37:53
  Speaker 9: And I said, well, Sheriff, where is that guy right now?
• 37:56
  Speaker 9: He says, well, I've got a deputy walking him over
• 37:58
  Speaker 9: to court for his initial apparent. And that's why I said, well, Sheriff.
• 38:02
  Speaker 2: Do me a favor.
• 38:04
  Speaker 9: Spin that old boy around and put him back in
• 38:06
  Speaker 9: your hotel. There's going to be some federal boys come
• 38:08
  Speaker 9: see you. He said, okay.
• 38:17
  Speaker 11: Well, Bob Rick said, I need you to go up
• 38:19
  Speaker 11: there and get a lay of the place so that
• 38:21
  Speaker 11: we can figure out how to get him out of there.
• 38:25
  Speaker 11: I'm thinking I need to hurry up, so I hopped
• 38:27
  Speaker 11: into helicopter and we took off for Parry, Oklahoma. Perry
• 38:43
  Speaker 11: is a small, quiet, rural Oklahoma community. It's about eighty
• 38:47
  Speaker 11: miles from Oklahoma City. I made contact with the sheriff
• 38:54
  Speaker 11: and the first thing he did was took me straight
• 38:56
  Speaker 11: to where McVeigh was for us least amount of notice
• 39:01
  Speaker 11: and commotion.
• 39:03
  Speaker 2: The better.
• 39:09
  Speaker 1: My boss called me and said you've got to get
• 39:11
  Speaker 1: to Perry, Oklahoma. And I'm like why, and they said,
• 39:15
  Speaker 1: we think one of the suspects has been arrested and
• 39:17
  Speaker 1: is in the Noble County jail and not a lot
• 39:19
  Speaker 1: of people know about it. And so I'm like, okay,
• 39:22
  Speaker 1: I'm going.
• 39:26
  Speaker 13: You name we named Prayer Division.
• 39:28
  Speaker 1: I'm ring back on the air, can you I'm.
• 39:30
  Speaker 8: Back here on the bone.
• 39:35
  Speaker 11: There was a news crew made it into the hallway
• 39:38
  Speaker 11: at the courthouse and they're filming, trying to find out
• 39:42
  Speaker 11: what's going on, and I tell them, you know, you've
• 39:46
  Speaker 11: got to get out of here.
• 39:48
  Speaker 1: When we say, hey, did y'all arrest someone? Is there
• 39:51
  Speaker 1: someone here that people are looking for? And they were like,
• 39:55
  Speaker 1: get out, So we knew he's there.
• 40:10
  Speaker 11: Right after that, the phone start ringing and there was
• 40:12
  Speaker 11: a person there at the desk answering the phone, and
• 40:15
  Speaker 11: she'd answer the phone and she sayes, I don't know,
• 40:17
  Speaker 11: but there's an FBI guy standing right here.
• 40:19
  Speaker 2: And I'm like, no, no, no, no, I don't want to.
• 40:22
  Speaker 11: Well, it was the media that started calling, so I
• 40:25
  Speaker 11: told the sheriff, I said, Sheriff, if they're calling, they're coming.
• 40:29
  Speaker 2: I would bring in your.
• 40:30
  Speaker 11: Reserves, the local police, maybe even the Boy Scouts if
• 40:34
  Speaker 11: you need to have them, because it's going to get
• 40:36
  Speaker 11: very active up here.
• 40:41
  Speaker 2: I am told now that we do have Robin Marshall
• 40:44
  Speaker 2: on the phone. Tell us what you're seeing.
• 40:46
  Speaker 13: Well, I can tell you that there are media from
• 40:48
  Speaker 13: all the world of install Oklahoma clown. I've been talking
• 40:51
  Speaker 13: with town folks there and they just cannot believe the
• 40:55
  Speaker 13: scene that has converged on the Noble County Courthouse. There
• 40:58
  Speaker 13: are two Oklahoma Highway troll cars right at the door
• 41:02
  Speaker 13: of the courthouse and we're just all waiting.
• 41:06
  Speaker 10: Helicopters are still overhead, mostly media helicopters, and about I'd
• 41:11
  Speaker 10: say to three.
• 41:12
  Speaker 1: Dred people they wanted him to know how they felt.
• 41:18
  Speaker 15: They let him loose out front.
• 41:20
  Speaker 1: Let everybody have ani.
• 41:21
  Speaker 6: We're taking Oklahoma City.
• 41:22
  Speaker 12: Let all those people have anism.
• 41:25
  Speaker 11: They still had to be transported from Perry to Oklahoma City.
• 41:31
  Speaker 11: But there is all kinds of commotion going on, and
• 41:35
  Speaker 11: I was thinking, well, my god, it's going to be crazy.
• 41:37
  Speaker 18: Ap Pear police want to protect this man. We did
• 41:41
  Speaker 18: hear some people in the crowd saying they had better
• 41:43
  Speaker 18: protect him well, because there are a lot of people
• 41:45
  Speaker 18: in Oklahoma who would like to take a shot at him.
• 41:49
  Speaker 11: By now, these other agents got there and they're like,
• 41:52
  Speaker 11: we got to go now.
• 41:59
  Speaker 1: Most of the sheriffs have and things who have been
• 42:01
  Speaker 1: closer to the door have all just kind of blogged
• 42:03
  Speaker 1: out they're actually closer to this, say, yellow take, but
• 42:06
  Speaker 1: we might want to just keep it here for a
• 42:07
  Speaker 1: little bit because we're just getting the impression that something
• 42:10
  Speaker 1: is going on.
• 42:14
  Speaker 15: And twenty seven year old Timothy McVeigh walked out.
• 42:40
  Speaker 10: Of the Noble County Courthouse and loaded up into a
• 42:43
  Speaker 10: brown band that is being taken away to Oklahoma City.
• 42:47
  Speaker 1: Where he will appear before a federal.
• 42:49
  Speaker 10: Magistrate on charges for the bombing of the federal building
• 42:52
  Speaker 10: in Oklahoma City Wednesday.
• 43:00
  Speaker 1: You never thought this would happen here, never Oklahoma City,
• 43:04
  Speaker 1: never home. It might even be harder to accept that
• 43:09
  Speaker 1: it's an American who did this.
• 43:16
  Speaker 5: There goes Tim McVeigh, the first confirmed arrest in the
• 43:19
  Speaker 5: Oklahoma bombing.
• 43:20
  Speaker 1: K we knew his name, but now we wanted to
• 43:27
  Speaker 1: know who in the heck this man was.
• 43:31
  Speaker 2: That was the question.
• 43:40
  Speaker 19: Timothy McVeigh the long suspect to be charged, and the
• 43:42
  Speaker 19: bombing is so far as centered tight security as investigators
• 43:45
  Speaker 19: trying to figure out his exact ties to the tragedy.
• 43:53
  Speaker 19: Despite being perhaps the most infamous man in America today,
• 43:56
  Speaker 19: McVeigh remains a relative unknown, a loner with a shrouded path.
• 44:03
  Speaker 8: Making yes yes camp, Yes, yes,