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- 0:01Speaker 1: The volume. All right, man, we're back another episode of
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- 0:15Speaker 2: Man.
- 0:15Speaker 1: We're starting off with it with a special guests, Man,
- 0:17Speaker 1: Special special guests in the building. We gonna sheo was
- 0:19Speaker 1: my man's last to my far left, we got my dog.
- 0:22Speaker 1: Should be hearing out the PRAI les how you were nasty?
- 0:24Speaker 3: What's saying the nasty? Let's get to it. I'm excited
- 0:26Speaker 3: for this one.
- 0:27Speaker 1: Shouting to your guy. Listen, you see you see how
- 0:29Speaker 1: we heck? He had the time? Man, we were hearing
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- 0:34Speaker 2: He's shocked. Man, you spiking today? Man, my dog? What
- 0:37Speaker 2: size of them?
- 0:39Speaker 3: I think of twelve? I owe you something, bro. And
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- 0:44Speaker 3: you a payer fub We get out of here. I
- 0:45Speaker 3: just run a little behind it that I got the man.
- 0:49Speaker 3: So you're about to put him on some black force
- 0:51Speaker 3: with the white license the grandfather? Yeah, I just think
- 1:00Speaker 3: the shoe shops for we left the city.
- 1:01Speaker 2: So I got you big show to my right.
- 1:04Speaker 1: We got my dog young now your young tig how
- 1:06Speaker 1: you were and I finally touched down in the bay.
- 1:09Speaker 1: So I'm hyped to be here. I'm glad to be here,
- 1:12Speaker 1: all Star. And we got a special guest, the real Grandfather.
- 1:16Speaker 1: I'm let you do the great You know what it is?
- 1:20Speaker 2: Was watching I said, Man, hold on, what's the description.
- 1:26Speaker 1: Now? He told me in Chicago the only got when
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- 1:46Speaker 1: Tony Alla, big dig appreciate.
- 1:47Speaker 2: You sliding on his baby love Man love. Man.
- 1:51Speaker 1: You know what top it is man, Midwest Podcast in
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- 1:54Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, Man. What's been going on with y'all?
- 1:57Speaker 3: Man?
- 1:57Speaker 2: I like what y'all doing. Man, I appreciate y'all having me.
- 2:01Speaker 1: You bro, we gotta talk about this real t a
- 2:04Speaker 1: all right now the nazis out too wet, and you
- 2:09Speaker 1: know it's a big shout out to him. Man, I
- 2:10Speaker 1: ain't gonna lie. Man, my body of work. Man, what
- 2:12Speaker 1: I do? Man, I ain't gonna lie. It ain't even
- 2:14Speaker 1: that field man, ain't no black and white. It's just
- 2:17Speaker 1: straight up and down.
- 2:18Speaker 2: You feel.
- 2:20Speaker 1: So when when when y'all was talking about it, I'm like,
- 2:22Speaker 1: hold on, they ain't gonna throw first team on them.
- 2:26Speaker 1: They ain't gonna first time break that.
- 2:30Speaker 3: I had to show some respect. I said, hold on,
- 2:32Speaker 3: I used to let you get off, but I don't
- 2:35Speaker 3: know one. And that's that's the guy for sure.
- 2:37Speaker 1: Man, this podcast word anytime we know it's gonna put
- 2:40Speaker 1: somebody else.
- 2:41Speaker 2: Off, we just.
- 2:44Speaker 4: Believe bro y'all being watched, bies be telling me, broke,
- 2:48Speaker 4: you gotta get on the fact, man, you gotta, I say,
- 2:50Speaker 4: bro I'm gonna get home that I watched y'all straight
- 2:54Speaker 4: up slung overdue.
- 2:56Speaker 2: Man, I'm here.
- 2:56Speaker 3: I want to get back, like to the to the beginning. Man,
- 2:59Speaker 3: How you ended up at Crane Man?
- 3:01Speaker 2: First?
- 3:01Speaker 3: You know, we know you're from Chicago. How you laying
- 3:04Speaker 3: that Crane Man? Wild story?
- 3:06Speaker 2: Man? Before I even got the Crane Man, I had
- 3:09Speaker 2: dropped out of high school.
- 3:10Speaker 4: Man, I had what grade ship freshman year as soon
- 3:15Speaker 4: as you started, not really.
- 3:17Speaker 2: When I started.
- 3:17Speaker 4: Once once the grades came out and you found and
- 3:19Speaker 4: I found that I couldn't play no high school basketball
- 3:22Speaker 4: if you had that GPA or your grades. It was like, man,
- 3:26Speaker 4: I'm going to a school with Ship. It was like
- 3:28Speaker 4: a fashion show.
- 3:28Speaker 2: Damn.
- 3:29Speaker 4: Then I went to I went to Julian at first
- 3:31Speaker 4: familiar with Sean Dockery. I went to his school before
- 3:34Speaker 4: he got there, and I was fifty out there.
- 3:36Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, he was. He was doing his thing.
- 3:38Speaker 4: And but when I was there Ship, that was like, man,
- 3:41Speaker 4: hold on, I need to keep these Air Force one fresh.
- 3:43Speaker 2: I need to you know what I'm saying. So the
- 3:45Speaker 2: only way I could do that if I gamble.
- 3:46Speaker 1: So I gambled in the you know, the p classes,
- 3:49Speaker 1: lunch classes.
- 3:51Speaker 4: By the time I look up, shit, the school day over.
- 3:53Speaker 4: So I wasn't even really going to school. And then
- 3:55Speaker 4: you know, that led to another thing, you know, being
- 3:57Speaker 4: being outside and when you were outside, you know, with
- 4:00Speaker 4: that So by the time I looked up Brou, I
- 4:03Speaker 4: don't know, man, I saw my life flash before me
- 4:06Speaker 4: because I was I was outside Bro, I was hustling you,
- 4:09Speaker 4: and uh, a couple of bullets went past my head,
- 4:13Speaker 4: and you know that was my my turning point.
- 4:15Speaker 2: Saying, you know what, man, this ain't for me.
- 4:16Speaker 4: Bro, I'm six five, six four and doing all this,
- 4:20Speaker 4: I guess ain't me. And till this day, I don't
- 4:23Speaker 4: even speak to my cousin because the type of time
- 4:26Speaker 4: he had me.
- 4:27Speaker 2: Got me out here doing this ship. I'm a whole
- 4:28Speaker 2: prou you feel me.
- 4:30Speaker 4: And then that specific day we got a program called
- 4:34Speaker 4: the I T I don't know if you'all familiar with,
- 4:36Speaker 4: and uh, one day when that day specifically when it happened,
- 4:40Speaker 4: I got in the Jedlivery cab boom shot passed. I'm
- 4:43Speaker 4: looking to the writers. I said, damn, what are all
- 4:45Speaker 4: these cars being out here? You know they got Benley's
- 4:47Speaker 4: bens Range. Bro, I'm like, what the hell was all
- 4:50Speaker 4: these people going tingout? Just leaving the block shoot right
- 4:53Speaker 4: to the thing. I'm thinking I got to pay us
- 4:55Speaker 4: free to get in. I'm like, why why are so
- 4:57Speaker 4: many people? And then I ran into my boy Jason
- 4:59Speaker 4: Straight y'all probably don't know, y'all probably know he played
- 5:01Speaker 4: at Wyoming, but uh, I'm asking fool, like, man, what
- 5:05Speaker 4: you what you're doing up? He's like, we're gonna play
- 5:06Speaker 4: you still hoop. I'm like here like what you hooping?
- 5:08Speaker 4: I was embarrassed. I'm like, I dropped out. I don't
- 5:11Speaker 4: play bro. He was like, come on, hoo by hoop.
- 5:15Speaker 4: In that game we played Sean Marion. Sean Marion was
- 5:19Speaker 4: you know, he was he was, he was doing this
- 5:20Speaker 4: thing and ship. I ended up having like eighteen points,
- 5:23Speaker 4: but I was one still wondering, like why all these
- 5:26Speaker 4: people are here. The next game was Antoine Walker and
- 5:30Speaker 4: Will Bind them.
- 5:34Speaker 2: So listen, they in the stands watching me play.
- 5:37Speaker 4: And so when I leave up at the game, you know,
- 5:39Speaker 4: you gotta go downstairs in the locker room, you know, I
- 5:41Speaker 4: said in the locker room, Will.
- 5:43Speaker 2: Like, man, Bro, like I need you. Like, I'm like
- 5:46Speaker 2: what you mean. He's like, Bro, you can hoop. Bro.
- 5:48Speaker 2: I'm like like, where you hooping at? I'm like, Bro,
- 5:50Speaker 2: I dropped out. And so the head coach, the coach,
- 5:53Speaker 2: Anthony long Street, shot out. Athony young Street coached me
- 5:55Speaker 2: and Crane.
- 5:57Speaker 4: He know, he was all errogant, you know, will bind
- 5:59Speaker 4: him as man you So he just you know, yeah,
- 6:02Speaker 4: are your grades you know?
- 6:04Speaker 2: Just okay? Yeah, like just tough on me for no reason.
- 6:08Speaker 4: And so Will was like, man, skip all that, Bro,
- 6:09Speaker 4: I can get you in school, Bro, I just took.
- 6:11Speaker 2: The Blue Division.
- 6:13Speaker 4: When you're in the Blue Division in Chicago, that mean
- 6:16Speaker 4: that's the weakest you're gonna play all the bullshit team.
- 6:19Speaker 4: But when you in the Red division, that's all the
- 6:21Speaker 4: big time school.
- 6:23Speaker 2: Okay. So you got to win the Blue division and
- 6:25Speaker 2: getting the Red so.
- 6:26Speaker 1: The top team in the top team in the Blue
- 6:28Speaker 1: division gold moves up to the Red division drops now.
- 6:32Speaker 1: And so he was explaining that process to me, and
- 6:35Speaker 1: I get you in school, so boom, imagine my mama
- 6:38Speaker 1: had already put me out.
- 6:39Speaker 2: If you ain't going to school, ain't no living in here.
- 6:42Speaker 4: So it got to the point whereas all right, I'm finna,
- 6:48Speaker 4: I'm gonna go back to school real, just say give
- 6:50Speaker 4: me in school manage. You don't even know where Crane at, Okay,
- 6:53Speaker 4: I don't even know what crane.
- 6:54Speaker 2: Never heard of crane.
- 6:55Speaker 4: And so when I went back to my where I
- 6:58Speaker 4: lived at on ninety fifth prison, par shut out Principal
- 7:02Speaker 4: par Lodan Holmes.
- 7:04Speaker 2: Be exact.
- 7:05Speaker 4: When I went back, Bro, all the guys like, Bro,
- 7:07Speaker 4: where you've been at this, that and the other. And
- 7:10Speaker 4: I go to my mama crib nobody in there like
- 7:15Speaker 4: the furniture gone like the dog is open, Like damn,
- 7:19Speaker 4: what the hell would my mama go? They like, bro,
- 7:20Speaker 4: your mama moved outout like a month ago, damn damn.
- 7:23Speaker 4: And I'm like er So then boom went back, got
- 7:26Speaker 4: in the cab, went to my grandmama house. Got to
- 7:28Speaker 4: my grandma house where my mama lived at. She was like, well, baby,
- 7:33Speaker 4: she says, she moved you outside doing what you ain't
- 7:36Speaker 4: supposed to be doing. She don't want you around ther
- 7:39Speaker 4: kids and this, that and the other. You're trying to
- 7:41Speaker 4: be grown, be grown, say Grandmama fin to go back
- 7:43Speaker 4: to school. She say, well, baby, your mama lived twenty
- 7:48Speaker 4: one fifty rest Ranrana.
- 7:53Speaker 2: Grandma heard the.
- 7:54Speaker 4: Bed sat and say, yeah, she moved on the west side.
- 7:57Speaker 4: And this was God because.
- 7:59Speaker 1: When I looked up and I called my mom, I'm like, Mama,
- 8:01Speaker 1: I want to come, I want to come back home.
- 8:03Speaker 4: And you know, she laid a a low down, You're
- 8:05Speaker 4: gonna go to school, get the jobs out. This another
- 8:07Speaker 4: When I told him going to school, she really didn't
- 8:08Speaker 4: believe it. And so when I got there, she like,
- 8:12Speaker 4: what a school. I'm like, it's called Crane. She's still
- 8:16Speaker 4: like she's like what crane down the street? Uh, just
- 8:19Speaker 4: so happened when she moved to the West Side. It
- 8:21Speaker 4: was fast a five block radies. I said, damn me
- 8:24Speaker 4: to be. I said, it meant to be. But shout
- 8:26Speaker 4: out the wheel by him because he the one that,
- 8:28Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying, put that play together and that's.
- 8:29Speaker 2: How I got there. Okay, that's crazy.
- 8:31Speaker 3: So he got a wild ass story like I didn't
- 8:34Speaker 3: know that, did you did?
- 8:35Speaker 2: One? Chip? No, I ain't win no chip. We ain't
- 8:39Speaker 2: gonna like that blue yea. I never made this.
- 8:41Speaker 4: Hell, I ain't gonna like that. It's a team called
- 8:45Speaker 4: Westinghouse and they got head. They had these cat's name
- 8:49Speaker 4: the Bailey Brothers. They had Martel Bailey, David Bailey, and
- 8:54Speaker 4: Cedric Banks. Those guys was like they was winning.
- 8:57Speaker 2: I think. I don't think they lost the game. Damn.
- 9:00Speaker 4: I don't think they lost the game. But it was like, damn,
- 9:02Speaker 4: like we couldn't get past them. If I go look
- 9:05Speaker 4: at Chicago Preps, you're gonna be on there.
- 9:07Speaker 2: No, that ship came.
- 9:08Speaker 4: As soon as I graduated, I used to watch Preps
- 9:12Speaker 4: like it was big. That was That was the first
- 9:14Speaker 4: reality t that was lit. I was like, damn. So
- 9:18Speaker 4: you had e c U ship. Guys on straight was
- 9:22Speaker 4: on that too, Uh Eddie carry all them cats was
- 9:27Speaker 4: just it was big.
- 9:28Speaker 2: I ain't gonna lie that. Whoever put that together, that
- 9:30Speaker 2: was dope. That was dope. I used to watch that
- 9:32Speaker 2: ship religiously.
- 9:33Speaker 3: Who the who the best high school player to come
- 9:35Speaker 3: out of Chicago to you? Just your opinion?
- 9:40Speaker 1: Sign spot, Yeah, let's just do high school.
- 9:45Speaker 2: Man. We got a lot of cats.
- 9:47Speaker 4: But if I'm gonna get somebody some love, I'm gonna
- 9:50Speaker 4: get somebody some love. I'm gonna go. I'm gonna go
- 9:52Speaker 4: with Mari Sawyer. He had a Puma commercial in high school.
- 9:57Speaker 4: In high school again, I'm Mary. He went to De
- 10:02Speaker 4: Paul and I'm talking, I ain't gonna lie. And when
- 10:05Speaker 4: I saw him with that, with that, with that commercial,
- 10:07Speaker 4: I ain't gonna lie. I was like, damn, I gotta
- 10:09Speaker 4: step my game up and I'm talking. He went to
- 10:11Speaker 4: King High School. He played with Leon Smith, so he
- 10:15Speaker 4: was nice. I'm talking about crossover, about no look passes,
- 10:19Speaker 4: I'm talking about throwing lobs.
- 10:20Speaker 2: And then here give you thirty small guard. He like
- 10:24Speaker 2: six one six one stepped in with ya. We got
- 10:29Speaker 2: a lot of them, though, Bro, we gotta ship.
- 10:32Speaker 4: Uh, you had that. Michael Herman, he went to King
- 10:38Speaker 4: got Cedric Banks. Uh, he went to West House. The
- 10:43Speaker 4: team I was telling y'all about.
- 10:44Speaker 3: About old boy that play with uh in Brian class
- 10:48Speaker 3: went with Monica.
- 10:51Speaker 4: Shnon Brown got a lot of who's always always you know,
- 10:57Speaker 4: z Bohead.
- 10:57Speaker 1: I was like, man, y'all right behind that.
- 11:05Speaker 2: He got a lot on them, bro, y'all right behind us.
- 11:07Speaker 4: Cord mcghetty, Quinn Richardson. We were taking in Eagle.
- 11:11Speaker 2: Dollar, y'all taking Come on and do that.
- 11:16Speaker 4: Come on, I got e T two though, Turner, Turners,
- 11:20Speaker 4: man Shepherd, come on, we loaded do get my old
- 11:25Speaker 4: Jesus little Twan Howard, Mike Finley and.
- 11:31Speaker 1: You know who underwrite it, even though he made Bottle Simmons.
- 11:34Speaker 1: Come on, Josh John from Chicago buckets. He killed, he killed, crazy,
- 11:43Speaker 1: he killed, and I forget that.
- 11:45Speaker 4: I don't think too many people notice our style of basketball,
- 11:49Speaker 4: because I like one thing about our basketball.
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- 11:52Speaker 4: We're gonna clear out, y'all get not cleared out most
- 11:56Speaker 4: definite y'all want to hold on one thing to though,
- 11:59Speaker 4: I forgot in that defensial stands like I ain't going
- 12:02Speaker 4: never of somewhere else.
- 12:06Speaker 2: Fucked up. So that's how.
- 12:09Speaker 4: That's that's how that is, man, And I ain't gonna
- 12:11Speaker 4: let bro I get that that type of energy when
- 12:15Speaker 4: I played in the league, because it was like bro
- 12:18Speaker 4: y'all steady running four five plays and try to single
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- 15:40Speaker 4: I worked out for them and my when when my
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- 15:50Speaker 4: I think it was his name, Dante Smith.
- 15:53Speaker 2: Yeah, he got drafted. He got they picked.
- 15:55Speaker 1: When they were telling me, they were talking to me
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- 16:40Speaker 2: Man? Will Bandham was supposed to come.
- 16:43Speaker 4: William had just transferred from Arizona text right, but listen,
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- 16:51Speaker 4: I'm leaving Arizona with this. I'm on my way.
- 16:54Speaker 2: Yeah. So we waiting, We waiting, Bro, the coaches calling
- 16:59Speaker 2: me all night. Hey, where your boy is? Did he did?
- 17:01Speaker 3: He? Did?
- 17:01Speaker 2: He detoy somewhere else?
- 17:03Speaker 4: Going We went to Atlanta, Man, we wake up, man,
- 17:06Speaker 4: We here will Bynam has committed to Georgia Tech blew me.
- 17:10Speaker 2: I'm like, damn, so I'm calling him. He didn't answered.
- 17:13Speaker 2: I'm like all right.
- 17:14Speaker 4: Then all of a sudden, John Lucas fell in our
- 17:17Speaker 4: hand through the technical difficulty, uh, the technicality that he
- 17:21Speaker 4: was going through with the with the Baylor situation. I'm
- 17:23Speaker 4: pretty sure he told y'all about Yeah, that was that
- 17:26Speaker 4: was really unfortunately, I ain't gonna lie, but fortunate for us,
- 17:30Speaker 4: you know, he came in was a big key to
- 17:32Speaker 4: our success. Man, and what we did that in Oklahoma State. Man,
- 17:35Speaker 4: I'm talking about it be times right, it'll be time.
- 17:37Speaker 4: Brother Jay Luke be like, bro, we pros, we pro
- 17:41Speaker 4: We got to act like pro. So once he was
- 17:43Speaker 4: telling me that, I'm like, bro, Lee, I'm like, you're right.
- 17:47Speaker 2: We do gotta work hard. We got to work hard.
- 17:49Speaker 4: So once he told me that I would go to
- 17:51Speaker 4: the gym at night, I'll catch him in the gym.
- 17:53Speaker 4: Boom here comes to the gym at night. I'll try
- 17:56Speaker 4: to get that before him. So now it's like who's
- 17:58Speaker 4: gonna leave first. It'll be time as well. I'm talking
- 18:00Speaker 4: about the man so clever. He'll act like he done
- 18:04Speaker 4: and then right when I go in and I'm done,
- 18:06Speaker 4: he go right back out here. So he had that
- 18:10Speaker 4: like type of competitive nature is just we're gonna get
- 18:12Speaker 4: that work in and uh all while we play with
- 18:15Speaker 4: each other. He always influenced me and told me like, bro, you'
- 18:17Speaker 4: a pro. He's like, I'm gonna get you there. He
- 18:19Speaker 4: take credit for my success and getting to the pros.
- 18:21Speaker 3: I don't know why, but he be part of it though.
- 18:26Speaker 4: I mean, I mean one thing he did. He because
- 18:29Speaker 4: I never did get that motherfucker right. I'm clanking. I'm
- 18:32Speaker 4: the king of clanking that motherfucker. But I ain't gonna lie.
- 18:34Speaker 4: He did put that battery in my back to say, bro,
- 18:37Speaker 4: you gotta keep coming back at night shooting. I have
- 18:40Speaker 4: seen him get up like two three thousand shots up
- 18:42Speaker 4: in one day, you know what I'm saying, And he'd
- 18:45Speaker 4: do it. It's like his body was trained to do that shit.
- 18:47Speaker 4: And I was like, man, how you do this? Bro,
- 18:49Speaker 4: I'm gonna go up here and get me two hundred
- 18:50Speaker 4: shots up. I'm getting up out of there. Brother, Ain't
- 18:52Speaker 4: that you know what I'm saying, and try to make
- 18:55Speaker 4: two hundred shit.
- 18:56Speaker 2: That was a lot for me.
- 18:57Speaker 3: So he was always defensive minded though now, hell no,
- 19:00Speaker 3: I used to. I just man, I was in college.
- 19:02Speaker 2: I was I respect that cross.
- 19:09Speaker 4: Yes, sir, look look killer. When I when I got
- 19:15Speaker 4: to Oklahoma State.
- 19:16Speaker 2: Bro.
- 19:16Speaker 4: I ain't even that I got to Okahoma State, Bro.
- 19:19Speaker 4: My junior college coach. You know, I went to JUCO,
- 19:23Speaker 4: went to Butler Community Color Cans, got kicked out of there. Yeah,
- 19:26Speaker 4: I was freshman out the year the average sixteen game.
- 19:29Speaker 4: He was acting that kicked out and called me smoke
- 19:32Speaker 4: a weed that act. The ready came, try to give
- 19:34Speaker 4: me my award. He sees smoke coming all out of
- 19:36Speaker 4: my room. Man fold kicked me out.
- 19:38Speaker 2: That's so bad. But that through the drace of God.
- 19:41Speaker 2: That's how Look how God worked.
- 19:43Speaker 4: Because the national Junior college team that won it that
- 19:46Speaker 4: year was missing the two guard So the first thing
- 19:49Speaker 4: they did was, like y'all kicked him at school, we
- 19:51Speaker 4: could use them. Send them down here to Illinois and
- 19:55Speaker 4: I went to Walt Baths Valley and then y'all find
- 19:57Speaker 4: to know this name right here. I went down there
- 20:00Speaker 4: with a cabinet named Antoine Barber.
- 20:02Speaker 2: Yeah, I know.
- 20:03Speaker 1: It's a bunch of kids from nothing with the wild
- 20:05Speaker 1: bad uh. Recently Robert greg the a lot younger than
- 20:11Speaker 1: you though.
- 20:11Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 20:12Speaker 4: So when when I got there, a Twine Barbara won
- 20:14Speaker 4: National Junior College mv P.
- 20:16Speaker 2: So when he won m v P that specific.
- 20:19Speaker 4: Yeah, he was supposed to leave and go to the
- 20:21Speaker 4: league because look, you had three junior college guys that
- 20:24Speaker 4: could have went to the league. Well actually two of
- 20:25Speaker 4: them actually went, Kedrick Brown and quincel Wood.
- 20:28Speaker 2: Yeah, he was.
- 20:29Speaker 4: He was on that draft board too, mimber of mock draft.
- 20:32Speaker 4: They still got the Okay, so the mock draft he was.
- 20:35Speaker 4: He was on that draft board. He came back to school.
- 20:38Speaker 1: So when he came back to school, he got everybody
- 20:40Speaker 1: coming to the schools. I'm talking about Michigan State, I'm
- 20:43Speaker 1: talking about all the big boys schools.
- 20:46Speaker 2: Uh.
- 20:46Speaker 4: And so when he was he was getting all that notoriety.
- 20:49Speaker 4: During that time, Oklahoma State was recruiting, and so when
- 20:55Speaker 4: they was recruiting, you know how at that time, they
- 20:57Speaker 4: couldn't really talk to you. They couldn't say nothing to you.
- 20:59Speaker 4: They'll try to get your He tried to do all
- 21:01Speaker 4: that extra ship. Hell, one time he was winking at
- 21:04Speaker 4: me like, I'm like.
- 21:05Speaker 1: Paul, because that was my man, but you did that
- 21:21Speaker 1: for so when he did that, it was like damn,
- 21:25Speaker 1: I'm like all right, But he got to be interesting
- 21:26Speaker 1: because he's trying to get my attention. And so whenever
- 21:30Speaker 1: when all the smoke Clip, that's why I Barbara went
- 21:33Speaker 1: to Kentucky so boom.
- 21:35Speaker 4: By him staying got me that notoriety, I believe. I
- 21:37Speaker 4: always say that. And when we used to I used
- 21:39Speaker 4: to be playing against me and him used to go
- 21:41Speaker 4: at it. Bro I ain't gonna let we go edit
- 21:43Speaker 4: one on one five on five. We're playing five on
- 21:47Speaker 4: five looked like one on one because we're going at
- 21:49Speaker 4: each other.
- 21:50Speaker 2: But it made us.
- 21:51Speaker 4: It made us, like I said, iron, we end up
- 21:53Speaker 4: losing in the National Junior College champion not Championship final four.
- 21:57Speaker 4: And then once more, like I said, when smoke Clip
- 22:00Speaker 4: had Creighton, Cincinnati, uh Arizona State.
- 22:06Speaker 2: In Oklahoma State.
- 22:08Speaker 1: What made you put like to the Oklahoma State though?
- 22:10Speaker 1: Being from Chicago, like, I think you probably picked Cincinnati somewhere.
- 22:18Speaker 2: Of those, I didn't want to go since that.
- 22:19Speaker 4: But you know who they picked who they signed Tony Bobby.
- 22:23Speaker 2: He was nice there too, He's nice.
- 22:25Speaker 4: So when they picked up Tony Bobby, I'm like, no,
- 22:27Speaker 4: I'm straight and I didn't want to go on the
- 22:29Speaker 4: West Coast, and it was like crating. I'm like, whoever
- 22:32Speaker 4: went to the league, you could have warned that have
- 22:35Speaker 4: been tough. Oh yeah, cool guy, you never got a
- 22:47Speaker 4: bucket on me. But meanwhile, meanwhile, when I went on
- 22:53Speaker 4: a visit, you know, you know, we had the legendary
- 22:56Speaker 4: coach that was that was the only reason. And then
- 22:58Speaker 4: they had about like a y s in games and
- 23:01Speaker 4: y'all familiar with Mo Baker. Yeah, I was watching how
- 23:05Speaker 4: they was letting him get loose the year before me.
- 23:07Speaker 4: So I'm like, damn, that spot open. It's when I
- 23:11Speaker 4: got it from. When I got in front of Coach Sutton.
- 23:16Speaker 4: I just flat out asked him, like, coach, if I saying,
- 23:19Speaker 4: here am I going to the league. He looked at
- 23:22Speaker 4: me and was like, you know. He put his legs
- 23:23Speaker 4: up and well, the coaches say that, you know you
- 23:28Speaker 4: are a great defender, you're very athlete. I'm like, coach, wait, man,
- 23:32Speaker 4: you ain't never saw me playing.
- 23:34Speaker 2: What the hell dressing this guys?
- 23:36Speaker 3: I'm like, wait man, wait coaches before he's like, I
- 23:40Speaker 3: didn't know that. I'm like, all right, cool.
- 23:43Speaker 4: He was like, but if you listen to everything I
- 23:44Speaker 4: say defensively and you know, be a star in your
- 23:47Speaker 4: role and you know, do everything I tell you offensively
- 23:50Speaker 4: and execute it, I don't see why now, I'm like.
- 23:52Speaker 2: Coach, what what what? He ain't like to shut out recipes?
- 23:58Speaker 4: Edison always give my uh, bro, you know, loves and
- 24:01Speaker 4: respect to him because I asked him.
- 24:03Speaker 1: He kept it g for sure, man, And that's you say, okay, State,
- 24:07Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying.
- 24:08Speaker 2: Growing up playing with a thrill.
- 24:09Speaker 1: Then you catch him in the final four, after the
- 24:11Speaker 1: whole he's supposed to be on your team anyway.
- 24:13Speaker 2: That's energy, Like, Bro, I ain't gonna lie, I always say.
- 24:16Speaker 2: I always say I kind of because I ain't in collegeable.
- 24:22Speaker 4: I always say, man, I think I jagged that yet
- 24:24Speaker 4: because listen, we're doing our study halls and you know,
- 24:30Speaker 4: we have to do our work and you gotta you know,
- 24:32Speaker 4: we gotta be focused.
- 24:33Speaker 2: They got us some curfew, damn.
- 24:36Speaker 4: So at this time, you know, you remember on the
- 24:38Speaker 4: phone you could send video messages. So this man send
- 24:41Speaker 4: me a video message. They kigging it. They got the sweet, they.
- 24:46Speaker 1: Got little chicks over there, they got there.
- 24:54Speaker 2: I'm like, Lou, look at that, look like, man, don't
- 24:59Speaker 2: do it. Don't do it.
- 25:00Speaker 4: He's like, I say, brother, fuck this curtain from three man,
- 25:05Speaker 4: I ain't cracking over there. Ain't gonna lie ten o'clock,
- 25:09Speaker 4: hit Bro. Let them coaches come in do their check.
- 25:11Speaker 2: Bro.
- 25:11Speaker 4: As soon as they left, walk right out there. We
- 25:13Speaker 4: had the rum on the elevator going down stair boom cap, Yeah,
- 25:17Speaker 4: take me across the street. Man went over cross street.
- 25:20Speaker 1: Man.
- 25:20Speaker 2: We over there, Man.
- 25:21Speaker 4: Drinking Hennessy turned they got the music. I'm Tom about
- 25:27Speaker 4: chicks just running off through that.
- 25:29Speaker 2: Mom.
- 25:29Speaker 4: I'm like, Man, I ain't leave that more for until
- 25:31Speaker 4: about four in the morning.
- 25:33Speaker 2: Man blew me game at five o'clock.
- 25:36Speaker 1: I'm like, damn, I'm talking about I ain't so up
- 25:40Speaker 1: till second half.
- 25:42Speaker 2: Oh Tom, Man, it blew me by the time I
- 25:45Speaker 2: look up.
- 25:46Speaker 4: Man, I'm looking at this tag game right had like
- 25:48Speaker 4: I think I got like thirteen point I'm like four
- 25:50Speaker 4: four eleven.
- 25:51Speaker 1: Man, my last three games I didn't. I had like
- 25:55Speaker 1: twenty two, twenty four.
- 25:56Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. I think I had eleven.
- 25:58Speaker 1: The game before that, I had to lock up Jimy
- 26:01Speaker 1: and Nelson and Delante Man, so we I just knew it.
- 26:05Speaker 4: We beat them and we got to being Gordon them.
- 26:07Speaker 4: I say, this is gonna be all I need to
- 26:09Speaker 4: do is get to being Gordon. You Lea and I'm
- 26:11Speaker 4: not even league. I'm a lottering if I could lock
- 26:15Speaker 4: up being Gordon and show the world that I'm a lot.
- 26:17Speaker 4: And so what ended up happening was, man, we'll bind
- 26:20Speaker 4: them end up coming off a pick and roll has
- 26:23Speaker 4: on j Looke floating it over, Joey Grant, so Joy
- 26:29Speaker 4: Grand and then right there in that time out Brian
- 26:31Speaker 4: gonna that's why. And Luke you know, you know I
- 26:33Speaker 4: did this boy coach like Eddie Son like, oh, Jake,
- 26:37Speaker 4: we're gonna sub j Lou. You trying to go off
- 26:39Speaker 4: his defense man Je I'm like, hell no, we I'm
- 26:42Speaker 4: like j Luke standing in.
- 26:44Speaker 2: We're finna get this win. Jay Lou gonna get this stop.
- 26:47Speaker 3: We will came up on the state.
- 26:50Speaker 2: You feel me, I'm standing up for my homie. Yeah,
- 26:53Speaker 2: you from Chicago doing it? Bring it in, We bring
- 26:59Speaker 2: it in.
- 27:00Speaker 1: Man, Ja little Ben fail for that weekend, I said, oh,
- 27:04Speaker 1: hell Ja, wait to y'all you tube for some weekends
- 27:12Speaker 1: making joy ground.
- 27:13Speaker 2: This motherfucker doing three sixties in the layup line. Man
- 27:16Speaker 2: he put that weekend float.
- 27:17Speaker 3: I said, Man, I couldn't do nothing to look back
- 27:20Speaker 3: and just hold my head down.
- 27:22Speaker 4: I had sold it up by them. I'm like, damn,
- 27:23Speaker 4: we love like we lost, so did look right? We
- 27:29Speaker 4: go into the you know the you know, the coaches
- 27:30Speaker 4: come in. They come in all man and ship. They
- 27:32Speaker 4: got their head down. They they walk in their pace
- 27:34Speaker 4: and they don't want to say nothing.
- 27:36Speaker 2: Man. One of the coaches busts out Tony Allen. I'm
- 27:40Speaker 2: like what, I'm looking up.
- 27:42Speaker 1: You know, we cried like I'm thinking like crying. I'm
- 27:47Speaker 1: I'm hoping they see that fields. He busts out, said,
- 27:52Speaker 1: I know you were out last night.
- 27:54Speaker 2: Yeah we know that. He was like, so when the
- 27:57Speaker 2: NBA coaches and called for you, we're gonna fuck you. Damn.
- 28:01Speaker 2: I'm like what, I start crying again. I start crying again.
- 28:09Speaker 2: I'm like, damn, all I can think like then the
- 28:11Speaker 2: wheel chess for next because because you got a Really.
- 28:16Speaker 4: When he went and played against Being Going, he killed
- 28:19Speaker 4: them like nineteen in the championship game, but they locked.
- 28:22Speaker 4: But I think that was my matchup I hanging about.
- 28:25Speaker 4: I always tell Being Going there when I see him too,
- 28:26Speaker 4: I was like, damn, bro, I've been won that matchup.
- 28:29Speaker 4: Ben was tough.
- 28:30Speaker 2: He was tough, man. I don't know how hard he was.
- 28:33Speaker 2: He we know year.
- 28:35Speaker 1: Six minutes Troy, one of my first games I got
- 28:38Speaker 1: to play. They ran two chests the whole game, cooking, cooking,
- 28:43Speaker 1: he cooked the middle, me cooked me. Trying to score
- 28:47Speaker 1: thirteen in a row. I was like, I'm I don't
- 28:50Speaker 1: ready for.
- 28:51Speaker 2: Look, they were calling him Ben Jordan at one point.
- 28:54Speaker 3: Really yeah, who Who's the hardest match up in college
- 28:58Speaker 3: for you?
- 28:58Speaker 2: Though? Man?
- 28:59Speaker 4: A lot of people don't know man andre Emmitt recipes.
- 29:05Speaker 4: H it won no stopping him getting thirty bro when
- 29:09Speaker 4: no stop all mid range? Yeah, big boy basket. He
- 29:13Speaker 4: was called bro, I'm talking about he putting our five
- 29:16Speaker 4: man in the post, damn for real. And it was
- 29:20Speaker 4: like then every time I faced him, it would be like,
- 29:23Speaker 4: either have a good game and then he'd just have
- 29:25Speaker 4: a better game, or he would just do something late
- 29:28Speaker 4: in the game and just take over. Like I don't
- 29:30Speaker 4: know what was about his game, real orthodox shot and everything,
- 29:33Speaker 4: but he just getting bucket. He wanted to get buckets man.
- 29:36Speaker 4: And uh, if I had to say one more tough matchup,
- 29:42Speaker 4: I think his name Baron Moutan, Yeah, yeah, yeah, text
- 29:46Speaker 4: me buckets man.
- 29:47Speaker 2: Oh man. He used to he used to be a
- 29:49Speaker 2: problem bro of courses. He used to be a problem.
- 29:55Speaker 1: Other than that, Yeah, okay, uh did you always have
- 29:59Speaker 1: to handle? Because I mean when people know you from
- 30:01Speaker 1: the league, they know you from playing defense.
- 30:02Speaker 2: But I remember you from college.
- 30:04Speaker 1: I've been a basketball fan my whole life, and when
- 30:06Speaker 1: you got buckets in college and were talking about but
- 30:08Speaker 1: you always had handled, like people underestimated when you got
- 30:11Speaker 1: in the league. I'm like, that fuck could dribble. One
- 30:14Speaker 1: of my best friends back home named Phil.
- 30:16Speaker 2: You was his guy.
- 30:18Speaker 1: So like Oklahoma State, you was his guy. I was
- 30:20Speaker 1: going for Saint Joe's. I was Jamiir and Nelson shirts.
- 30:23Speaker 2: It was my guys. They wore big T shirts. That
- 30:30Speaker 2: was we was right on their heels that whole year.
- 30:33Speaker 2: They was one. We was too my bunny work.
- 30:35Speaker 1: Okay, he fucked to Saint Joe's. But okay State we
- 30:38Speaker 1: played marsh Man.
- 30:39Speaker 2: Is he getting Okay State?
- 30:40Speaker 1: He like Tony Allen Gold And I'm like, so we
- 30:44Speaker 1: got older and I seen you.
- 30:45Speaker 2: You know, you was known for defense.
- 30:46Speaker 1: I'm like, he can't dribble, no more Insand you know,
- 30:51Speaker 1: but I know the league. You know, you get to
- 30:53Speaker 1: the league taking you a role changing But no, it's
- 30:57Speaker 1: Chicago thing. Ain't and then I played with wheel the
- 31:00Speaker 1: thrills was like every time man, me and three people
- 31:03Speaker 1: don't know me and three used to put on jump
- 31:05Speaker 1: sos bro my senior high school.
- 31:07Speaker 2: Junior senior high school, I walked around with them jumps
- 31:10Speaker 2: them shoes East Bank, Bro. Everybody in school used to
- 31:14Speaker 2: be like, look at this Rodney Carney on me.
- 31:19Speaker 3: Ronney Carney used to walk around the city.
- 31:21Speaker 4: And I'm talking about shoes and one thing for short,
- 31:27Speaker 4: some of them down trying to get back in my
- 31:31Speaker 4: brother maybe some strim shoes and terrors though, bro, homemadetrimp shoes.
- 31:35Speaker 4: My brother put a block of wood under some old
- 31:37Speaker 4: gym shoes, put a nail in it.
- 31:39Speaker 2: Walk around that ship. That's why the work for the
- 31:42Speaker 2: hell cause you jump. I didn't do this.
- 31:47Speaker 6: Over off you get the home depot Joy made wore
- 31:54Speaker 6: story out.
- 31:58Speaker 2: My brother.
- 32:01Speaker 4: He tried thought that count No, me and him just
- 32:05Speaker 4: play one on one and so just picking up his attributes.
- 32:08Speaker 1: Like I'm like, damn that, Like how he do it?
- 32:10Speaker 1: Like because he hits you, I left boom, you know
- 32:12Speaker 1: what I'm saying.
- 32:13Speaker 4: So I couldn't. I couldn't do it like that. So
- 32:15Speaker 4: I had to, you know, come into it like that
- 32:18Speaker 4: with the in and out, you know what I'm saying.
- 32:19Speaker 4: And it was always left the right, you know what
- 32:21Speaker 4: I'm saying. I couldn't get it really like that going
- 32:24Speaker 4: that way. But oh, man, Chicago, You've got one of
- 32:26Speaker 4: the things we always was talking. You've got to be
- 32:28Speaker 4: able to handle that ball. You know what I'm saying.
- 32:29Speaker 2: You can't handle that ball, man, you what you're gonna
- 32:32Speaker 2: do on the court. You know what I'm saying.
- 32:33Speaker 4: And it's one of the things, Man, I inherited early
- 32:36Speaker 4: as a kid. And I don't know, man handling that
- 32:39Speaker 4: ball to me when I got in the league. I
- 32:41Speaker 4: couldn't show it simply because it was more like, all right,
- 32:47Speaker 4: we need you to be doing fifty to fifty shit
- 32:49Speaker 4: like you need to be getting loose ball, catching it
- 32:51Speaker 4: in transition, getting deflections like that's what they feed to me.
- 32:56Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.
- 32:57Speaker 4: In my first yep, shit, that's what I had to
- 32:59Speaker 4: do ship to try to get on the court.
- 33:01Speaker 3: So you said, you know, I said that was gonna pick.
- 33:04Speaker 3: You know, we in your draft draft process right now,
- 33:07Speaker 3: I was that first day of practice or what was
- 33:09Speaker 3: that draft process?
- 33:10Speaker 4: Like, Man, the draft process was crazy I had. I mean,
- 33:14Speaker 4: I found out how many teams was in two thousand
- 33:16Speaker 4: and folk. I worked out with everybody except Toronto, you
- 33:22Speaker 4: know what I'm saying, and so I felt I was
- 33:25Speaker 4: the best in shape.
- 33:27Speaker 2: It was some workouts, man, I ain't gonna be live, man.
- 33:29Speaker 1: Cats would pull out Theydn't see me getting the best
- 33:34Speaker 1: stomach hurt.
- 33:35Speaker 2: Yeah, pull a hamstring, you know what I'm saying.
- 33:37Speaker 4: And I be mad, Bro, I'll be like, I tell
- 33:40Speaker 4: them the coaches like, come on, ma, y'all got to
- 33:42Speaker 4: get some more competitors in y'all doing the full.
- 33:44Speaker 1: Court, one on one ship all that, damn all that.
- 33:48Speaker 3: And I'm talking about you said in thirty Cities, Niggay.
- 33:52Speaker 4: Look I was in the best shape, bro. That was
- 33:56Speaker 4: the best shape in my life. Bro, I ain't gonna
- 33:58Speaker 4: lie is The process could be it could be draining,
- 34:03Speaker 4: but man, we was trying to get im trying to
- 34:05Speaker 4: feed my family.
- 34:06Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. You know it really motive,
- 34:08Speaker 2: it really it really didn't matter.
- 34:09Speaker 1: Man.
- 34:10Speaker 4: They well they were all I needed was one team, bro,
- 34:14Speaker 4: And in that process, that's all you need is one team.
- 34:16Speaker 1: That It's crazy that one team to be in the
- 34:18Speaker 1: Boston Celtic's twenty five first round pick. It's crazy because
- 34:21Speaker 1: you was there in Boston pre KG and then post
- 34:24Speaker 1: to help KG get the championship. I was that just
- 34:26Speaker 1: touching down in Boston. They're going through a little bit
- 34:28Speaker 1: of a transition. I was part of that team. I
- 34:31Speaker 1: was part of the team that lost eighteen games in
- 34:33Speaker 1: the row.
- 34:33Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, and I'm talking.
- 34:36Speaker 1: It was.
- 34:39Speaker 4: Saying, but hold on, hold on, let's stay here and
- 34:43Speaker 4: seeing hotel. I'm telling you, but look, we was getting busy. No,
- 34:49Speaker 4: I'm talking about it was so bad.
- 34:50Speaker 2: Bro. You know, we was in the losing culture.
- 34:52Speaker 4: Because when you come in in the locker room and
- 34:56Speaker 4: you got the stat sheet right there and hand tap,
- 34:59Speaker 4: how you, bro, that's a loser?
- 35:04Speaker 2: Why is you looking at that? Sounds like that's a
- 35:07Speaker 2: good soda? Bro? That was a and then but I
- 35:11Speaker 2: ain't gonna lie.
- 35:11Speaker 4: I had like a beat because I told my a
- 35:13Speaker 4: cl yeah my third year and it's one of the
- 35:17Speaker 4: freak accidents. One of things I really regret in the
- 35:19Speaker 4: league is playing after the whistle, and I hate when
- 35:22Speaker 4: players do it today.
- 35:23Speaker 2: But don't know them following her get hurt like I did.
- 35:26Speaker 2: I don't know how that damn but tweak it. Man.
- 35:30Speaker 4: I was averaging, like I want to say a good
- 35:32Speaker 4: like eighteen nineteen a game I'm talking about on like
- 35:35Speaker 4: a ten gamespan. Paul Pierce had just got his extension.
- 35:38Speaker 4: Then he went to the media. It was like, I
- 35:40Speaker 4: need some help. I'm saying to myself, Damn, he's trying
- 35:44Speaker 4: to get some folks up out of here. Was definitely
- 35:47Speaker 4: but it was one day like he had came to
- 35:49Speaker 4: me and shut it down. He was like, yo, I'm
- 35:51Speaker 4: shutting it down. He was like, you got the juice now.
- 35:59Speaker 4: I'm like, He's like, yeah, you starting today, get ready
- 36:03Speaker 4: and walked away.
- 36:04Speaker 1: Bro.
- 36:04Speaker 2: That's all he.
- 36:04Speaker 4: Needed to tell me. I'm talking. I'm telling you, bro,
- 36:06Speaker 4: want like an eighteen game. I mean an eighteen per
- 36:09Speaker 4: game points per game streak.
- 36:11Speaker 1: Bro.
- 36:11Speaker 4: And specifically that day, Bro was I was going up
- 36:13Speaker 4: against stack Jack. You know, stack Jack, great defender OG
- 36:17Speaker 4: at the time. You know what I'm saying, Looking at
- 36:19Speaker 4: the scar, I'm like, damn, we playing at Deiana. I
- 36:21Speaker 4: got like nineteen with like six minutes seven minutes left
- 36:24Speaker 4: in the third, I'm saying to myself, I might get.
- 36:28Speaker 2: Forty to.
- 36:31Speaker 4: Of course, I'm like I might get forty, and so
- 36:35Speaker 4: I was feeling good. I blew pass him. He found me,
- 36:38Speaker 4: you know, the whistle blow and then this right around
- 36:40Speaker 4: the town. And when Brian bron came to the league
- 36:42Speaker 4: but making this look sex. So I tried to do
- 36:46Speaker 4: one of them, man, and didn't quite get up there. Man,
- 36:48Speaker 4: feel dead on my ship.
- 36:50Speaker 1: Man.
- 36:50Speaker 4: That shit pops so loud out here. It's just like yo,
- 36:55Speaker 4: I'm like out, come out and she was hurting so bad.
- 36:58Speaker 4: Then Steven Jackson like, what is you doing?
- 37:00Speaker 3: Bro?
- 37:00Speaker 2: Why would you do that? Bro? Why would you do that?
- 37:03Speaker 4: Boom All I remember just getting to the back thinking like, no,
- 37:06Speaker 4: I ain't nothing wrong with it, ain't nothing wrong with it.
- 37:07Speaker 4: Boom tried to walk on again. Man, I fell out clapped.
- 37:12Speaker 4: They're like, yeah, yo, toyo a cl I was crying.
- 37:15Speaker 4: I was hurt, and from then, you know, it was
- 37:18Speaker 4: it was it was two things that could happen because
- 37:20Speaker 4: I ended up, you know, I had some had some troubles,
- 37:22Speaker 4: some legal troubles or whatever, and uh, it was two
- 37:25Speaker 4: things that happened.
- 37:26Speaker 2: Bros Ley.
- 37:27Speaker 4: I get my knee right, adapt to my role, do
- 37:31Speaker 4: it one hundred ten percent. And if I don't try
- 37:33Speaker 4: to come back here and try to be on some
- 37:34Speaker 4: clearout ship. You know what I'm saying, My ass is
- 37:36Speaker 4: out the league. And that was the reality of that.
- 37:39Speaker 4: So when I came back, man, uh, we had traded
- 37:43Speaker 4: everybody but me and Rondo, sir, you know what I'm
- 37:45Speaker 4: saying that that's that's summer.
- 37:47Speaker 2: We got the Delante West, got rid of.
- 37:49Speaker 4: Gerald Green, Ryan gonees Al Jefferson, and while deserve it,
- 37:54Speaker 4: everybody was gone. And so I'm like, damn, why they
- 37:57Speaker 4: keep me because they didn't extend me, you know, my
- 38:00Speaker 4: third year. You know, they could extend your third. You
- 38:04Speaker 4: play through your fourth here then did a bad kickain.
- 38:06Speaker 4: So they signed They signed Al Jefferson four year like
- 38:09Speaker 4: seventy something, and brought We got KG like that, we
- 38:13Speaker 4: took We sent Walick Serbiac to Seattle and uh we
- 38:18Speaker 4: got Rid out right. And so right then and there,
- 38:20Speaker 4: I'm like, damn, hold on, we got three Hall of famers,
- 38:24Speaker 4: Like what the hell?
- 38:25Speaker 2: What what do I fit in at?
- 38:26Speaker 4: And uh, Doc Rivers he here, you know, pulled me
- 38:29Speaker 4: to the side, brought me and he was like, you
- 38:30Speaker 4: see what happened? Like what we trade everybody?
- 38:33Speaker 2: We kept you?
- 38:35Speaker 4: So in worder for you to get on this court
- 38:37Speaker 4: and play, you need to be doing everything they not
- 38:39Speaker 4: doing because their scores, they're going to get majority of shots.
- 38:42Speaker 4: You need to be getting loose balls, taking charges, diving
- 38:46Speaker 4: on the floor, getting deflections, playing the passing lane, and
- 38:50Speaker 4: shoot when.
- 38:51Speaker 2: You get low clock, I'm like low clock. I mean
- 38:56Speaker 2: I'm wide over in eighteen on the clock. That ain't
- 38:58Speaker 2: a good shot. Coach.
- 38:59Speaker 1: Hell no, I say, okay, cool, that's that's love, that's
- 39:07Speaker 1: what's happing. But he kept it g though, you see
- 39:09Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Like, ain't too many coaches running up
- 39:12Speaker 1: on you, like like if they ain't fucking with you,
- 39:13Speaker 1: and they and they know your windows short, they just
- 39:15Speaker 1: gonna throw you out there.
- 39:17Speaker 2: Hey, funk up there. They looking upstairs at the gym.
- 39:19Speaker 4: Like, oh god, that's what he was doing. You did
- 39:26Speaker 4: you wondering like okay? But then he kept me and
- 39:28Speaker 4: I ain't gonna lie, man, that was the most stressful you.
- 39:30Speaker 4: I ain't gonna trying to get back. You know what
- 39:32Speaker 4: I'm saying, Get over my you know my things I
- 39:36Speaker 4: had going on, and that's my knee. Man, just I couldn't.
- 39:40Speaker 2: I was I was scared. I had to wear the brace.
- 39:42Speaker 2: I'm talking about the brace looking so bad. I ain't
- 39:44Speaker 2: gonna lie.
- 39:45Speaker 4: Remember what time I had to brace on and uh,
- 39:48Speaker 4: Chris Wilcock track comes at.
- 39:50Speaker 2: A pick and his knee hit my brake. He's like, damn, Chris.
- 39:59Speaker 2: Wasn't then that man? That brace was so I hated that.
- 40:06Speaker 2: Ain't Chris Bosh used to wear that brace that she
- 40:09Speaker 2: used to hurt When he.
- 40:10Speaker 4: Said and I ain't gonna lie, I was. I was
- 40:15Speaker 4: still trying to just get back she and trying to
- 40:17Speaker 4: get my bounce.
- 40:17Speaker 2: I was timid.
- 40:18Speaker 4: I was scared, but I went through the process man,
- 40:21Speaker 4: and I was able to start, you know, just strengthening
- 40:24Speaker 4: my knee and got back so big shout out to
- 40:26Speaker 4: Brian doing and walked to Norton. The folks got me
- 40:29Speaker 4: back right, strengthen condition to a four year straight back.
- 40:32Speaker 4: It took a full year to shake back. Oh yeah,
- 40:35Speaker 4: took down there because I heard it the middle of
- 40:38Speaker 4: the season. I ain't come back. It took about the
- 40:41Speaker 4: whole oh yeah, about a year. Yeah yeah, I think
- 40:45Speaker 4: I came back earth. Then it was contract my fourth year.
- 40:47Speaker 4: It was like ship I was if it was seven months.
- 40:50Speaker 4: I had to get back out there. You feel me show.
- 40:53Speaker 1: It's crazy, Like you said, contract situation, You're going to
- 40:55Speaker 1: know what I'm saying that that championship year Man.
- 40:57Speaker 2: How was that run?
- 40:58Speaker 3: Man?
- 40:59Speaker 2: What I like about that? It is the way we
- 41:01Speaker 2: came together. We was in Italy.
- 41:03Speaker 4: We started in Italy and Tigket p ray Poles, I
- 41:10Speaker 4: mean perk, you know, the starting fat pretty much they
- 41:14Speaker 4: all went bad and like we're gonna be on the
- 41:16Speaker 4: same coord which made was formed the bench mob because
- 41:19Speaker 4: we was like, all right, two things happened these we
- 41:22Speaker 4: got to be on the same page like them. That's
- 41:23Speaker 4: what that was that message right then and there, and
- 41:25Speaker 4: we set forth the title vision right then and there,
- 41:29Speaker 4: like we go.
- 41:30Speaker 2: Man. Training camp was hard.
- 41:31Speaker 4: I'm talking about everybody getting extra shots up, guys getting
- 41:36Speaker 4: there early, like like we set the foundation right then
- 41:39Speaker 4: and there, manout. It was some of the best scrimmages
- 41:41Speaker 4: I've probably been a part of, Man And I don't know.
- 41:44Speaker 4: It was just felt like I felt like like Doc
- 41:47Speaker 4: knew what he was doing.
- 41:49Speaker 2: You knew y'all was gonna win. And then all y'all
- 41:51Speaker 2: cut your hair off. No, you know, I had to
- 41:53Speaker 2: keep my face.
- 41:56Speaker 3: I don't want to go over there. Because a couple
- 41:57Speaker 3: of the niggas and have no trouble. I got a peanut, bro.
- 42:02Speaker 3: I can't, I can't.
- 42:03Speaker 4: I couldn't have did it. Man, I ain't gonna like
- 42:05Speaker 4: I remember Eddie House like your fan fund.
- 42:14Speaker 2: Man going to hell and so that.
- 42:19Speaker 4: But I think that right there, man, it just showed
- 42:21Speaker 4: that they were sacrificing everything, man, and they came together.
- 42:25Speaker 3: Man.
- 42:25Speaker 2: And you know who else was like a real voice
- 42:28Speaker 2: in the locker room? Man was changed posts. You know.
- 42:32Speaker 4: He had that swagger like you know I've been there before,
- 42:34Speaker 4: like when we be fucking up. Sain't it? Man, sain't it?
- 42:37Speaker 2: Brothers?
- 42:39Speaker 4: Same championship spirit right here, Like he'll be the first
- 42:41Speaker 4: one check everybody I'm talking about, let ticket them know
- 42:45Speaker 4: this ain't it.
- 42:46Speaker 2: He'll tell Pete, no, that ain't it.
- 42:48Speaker 4: Broost have been on the week side, but you got
- 42:50Speaker 4: like he a straightened guy, not in the disrespectful way.
- 42:52Speaker 2: But more so like I've been to the promising what
- 42:56Speaker 2: y'all doing? Ain't it?
- 42:58Speaker 4: And so I always took sheets out of his book, Bro,
- 43:02Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying. I'm talking about the guy
- 43:05Speaker 4: used to come in there, bro with a laptop, big
- 43:07Speaker 4: ass laptop. They give him the you know, the edits
- 43:10Speaker 4: on who he's sticking. He'll watch the iOS. He'll watch
- 43:13Speaker 4: their transitions, he'll watch the offensive rebound, he'll watch their
- 43:17Speaker 4: catching shoots.
- 43:18Speaker 2: And he'll be watching that.
- 43:20Speaker 4: All the way until then there like game time or not,
- 43:24Speaker 4: until it's time to go get his treatment.
- 43:25Speaker 2: Because I treatment. We ran some old heads, all listen.
- 43:31Speaker 1: I didn't understand what the hell of the treatment table was.
- 43:34Speaker 1: I'm like, why the hell these motherfuckers sit on that
- 43:36Speaker 1: table so long?
- 43:37Speaker 4: But when I was young, I was learning from those
- 43:39Speaker 4: veterans and seeing how they take care of their body,
- 43:42Speaker 4: seeing how they prepare ray Hall and get that three
- 43:44Speaker 4: four hours early, get shot up. He showered in a
- 43:47Speaker 4: hot tub, cold tub. Now you're reading the book, like, damn, okay,
- 43:50Speaker 4: that's how you get ready. Ticket. He got damn it,
- 43:53Speaker 4: got this heat packed. He's got his feet on the
- 43:55Speaker 4: heat pack. He's sitting there just ain't saying nothing to nobody.
- 44:00Speaker 2: I'm like, damn what he.
- 44:01Speaker 4: Meditate and getting ready to go in there du about
- 44:03Speaker 4: fifty squads with the dumbbells. I'm like, okay, he getting
- 44:06Speaker 4: ready then, Paul, he was just he was just he
- 44:09Speaker 4: was just hilarious he had coming there.
- 44:12Speaker 2: Bro. He just he was like he look at your shoes, like,
- 44:16Speaker 2: what's dog.
- 44:18Speaker 1: Like?
- 44:18Speaker 2: He was just he was just too free lance.
- 44:20Speaker 1: You know, so you really didn't want I really didn't
- 44:23Speaker 1: want to take nothing. Ain't like, Yeah, I didn't want
- 44:27Speaker 1: to take nothing of his book, bro. But I always
- 44:29Speaker 1: listened to him and when he got serious and he
- 44:31Speaker 1: was in my always listened to him, you know what
- 44:32Speaker 1: I'm saying.
- 44:33Speaker 4: And just taking those guys professionalism. I think it carried
- 44:38Speaker 4: on to my career. You see what I'm saying. I
- 44:40Speaker 4: used that It's like damn okay, going running the papat
- 44:43Speaker 4: before you go and get to the game right for
- 44:45Speaker 4: the game.
- 44:45Speaker 1: That ain't That ain't healthy? You know what I'm saying.
- 44:47Speaker 1: Not getting enough rest, that ain't healthy.
- 44:49Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.
- 44:49Speaker 4: All this extra ship I was doing before pre a
- 44:52Speaker 4: c L at the a CL. When they got there,
- 44:55Speaker 4: I straightened my whole professionalism.
- 44:58Speaker 1: I want to ask, how does it feel to see
- 44:59Speaker 1: them out for spaces, you see KG and people they show,
- 45:03Speaker 1: you see Kendrick Perkin's on ESPN, like to know them personally,
- 45:06Speaker 1: see how they are to be the new media? How
- 45:08Speaker 1: is that now because they all represent the real stuff
- 45:10Speaker 1: like y'all want together. You know, they real dudes, especially
- 45:12Speaker 1: behind basketball.
- 45:13Speaker 4: Yeah, man, and they cut from a cough man that's
- 45:16Speaker 4: so separate them guys, real dudes.
- 45:18Speaker 1: Man, I ain't gonna lie. When we played together, Man,
- 45:20Speaker 1: we did everything together. You know what I'm saying.
- 45:22Speaker 2: KG forcibly made everybody one team, one go. You know
- 45:26Speaker 2: what I'm saying. We're gonna go out together, go in together,
- 45:30Speaker 2: go in together. You know what I'm saying.
- 45:32Speaker 1: He made that clips soon as he got in the dope,
- 45:34Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. And then hold on, hold on,
- 45:36Speaker 1: hold on, Hey, they loud to hear. I thought she
- 45:44Speaker 1: was about to say I was, but.
- 45:49Speaker 2: Even better. Yeah I lost my train. No, no, Mitchell,
- 45:55Speaker 2: and next with.
- 45:57Speaker 4: Love shopping. But no, man, those guys bro ain't gonna lie.
- 46:17Speaker 4: Those guys ain't gonna lie.
- 46:18Speaker 1: Man.
- 46:19Speaker 4: You gotta understand where they coming from the because if
- 46:22Speaker 4: you look at today's game, they probably might be a
- 46:24Speaker 4: little too outright for to Gay's game.
- 46:26Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.
- 46:27Speaker 4: The way they played, they how vocal they are, they
- 46:31Speaker 4: got the alpha male syndrome.
- 46:33Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.
- 46:34Speaker 4: I don't think that's allowed in locker room today. And
- 46:37Speaker 4: I just look at it like damn man. Like I said,
- 46:40Speaker 4: they come from a closs that ain't sold no more
- 46:42Speaker 4: damn because they real dudes. Man, When you hear what
- 46:45Speaker 4: they talking about, you actually gotta understand what the leagues
- 46:48Speaker 4: and the times and the errors that they played in
- 46:50Speaker 4: It was a no bullshit type error.
- 46:53Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. They come ticket played in
- 46:55Speaker 2: the era where you could can't check them off.
- 46:58Speaker 4: Now do you can you imagine how from the hand
- 47:00Speaker 4: chake him off for ninety four feet and get.
- 47:02Speaker 2: Away with it?
- 47:04Speaker 4: I mean doing that, I mean still you you can
- 47:07Speaker 4: do it? What I at least fat, at least fat
- 47:11Speaker 4: the muscle, Get fat at me. You're gonna have a
- 47:13Speaker 4: few games with ten seven. And you know what I'm saying,
- 47:16Speaker 4: But the errors that they played, I just think you
- 47:20Speaker 4: gotta respect a g when they talking or giving their opinion.
- 47:22Speaker 4: I like the space that person person a more corporate
- 47:26Speaker 4: type podcast or you know whatever, whatever. But he's doing
- 47:30Speaker 4: this thing, man, shout out big perk man. I used
- 47:32Speaker 4: to call him swamp thing boy.
- 47:35Speaker 2: Get the sweating that coming out there song. I'll be like, God,
- 47:37Speaker 2: what is swamp. That's crazy. He inherded that nick name.
- 47:46Speaker 1: We're gonna talk about that. That's about order. Oh god,
- 47:54Speaker 1: oh god, that's it's funnycause you're talking about hit us.
- 47:58Speaker 1: I always think about kPr we talk. You pop up
- 48:00Speaker 1: with him dropping in the driveway.
- 48:03Speaker 2: That was you know, he ain't.
- 48:12Speaker 4: Big felt, I ain't gonna like. He always wanted to
- 48:14Speaker 4: be like a guard man. He used to try to
- 48:15Speaker 4: come and get in our drills or we we warm
- 48:18Speaker 4: up and stuff like that. He loves like shooting jump side.
- 48:21Speaker 4: I ain't gonna have big fella, always had guard mentality.
- 48:23Speaker 4: But uh yeah, them guys ain't gonna like I said.
- 48:25Speaker 4: I like the space thing and for.
- 48:28Speaker 1: Sure, man, listen, man, y'all got it done. Man, before
- 48:30Speaker 1: we get to the next YAP career, we got to
- 48:32Speaker 1: talk about that championship. Man, it gets the Lakers. Man
- 48:36Speaker 1: filed to ask situation on the loss and keys, Yeah
- 48:39Speaker 1: gonna you know that.
- 48:40Speaker 4: You know we won one lost once one definitely, So
- 48:43Speaker 4: the one that we won, I think I ain't play
- 48:46Speaker 4: that much.
- 48:46Speaker 2: I ain't sit on here. It was all chame post.
- 48:53Speaker 1: A. Man.
- 48:54Speaker 2: Listen, I ain't getting the game and was up thirty
- 48:57Speaker 2: or down thirty, but.
- 49:03Speaker 4: One thing for show two or certain I'm different than you, Jey,
- 49:07Speaker 4: come listen.
- 49:08Speaker 1: Listen.
- 49:09Speaker 4: When I got my little time, I tried to save
- 49:11Speaker 4: and when we kicked it, I went and kicked hell, y'all,
- 49:17Speaker 4: what we're going Vegas?
- 49:18Speaker 2: Oh yeah, come home.
- 49:19Speaker 1: I'll be on that Jenius right there with we get
- 49:24Speaker 1: shout to Milwaukee. Were trying to right. You got to
- 49:26Speaker 1: turn up, you know, you want to play some video games.
- 49:30Speaker 1: And then I went back to the crib.
- 49:33Speaker 2: Hell proper champagne.
- 49:34Speaker 1: Man, I wanted to do all that. I was gonna
- 49:38Speaker 1: be the craziest one in Vegas. I was gonna have
- 49:40Speaker 1: a big major bottle like I had thirty at night.
- 49:45Speaker 1: I was gonna turn it up for him.
- 49:46Speaker 2: But nobody want to go. But look, I ain't gonna
- 49:48Speaker 2: let the one thing about our championship.
- 49:50Speaker 4: The thing there that was funny to me, Bro, you know,
- 49:53Speaker 4: you know you go through you think it's about to
- 49:54Speaker 4: be unlimited bottles of champagne and throw man. I look
- 49:58Speaker 4: at the DVD the other day, man, and they got
- 50:02Speaker 4: clips a ticket point Miller's light on.
- 50:05Speaker 1: You, Bro?
- 50:08Speaker 3: Bro?
- 50:09Speaker 2: What's with I don't run out of them? What's going on?
- 50:14Speaker 1: Man?
- 50:21Speaker 2: I was like, it's crazy. I'm like niggas all I had.
- 50:27Speaker 2: I had a big bottle of cor Lord. Yeah, I
- 50:30Speaker 2: was walking around with the Yeah, I was walking around
- 50:34Speaker 2: with that. Ran out of where'd'all go out to do?
- 50:37Speaker 4: You'll go to the club and I think we went
- 50:40Speaker 4: over with Ticket Crib. You know Ticket had the big
- 50:42Speaker 4: boy match. Yeah, everybody went over there kicked it. You
- 50:46Speaker 4: know that that was big. I ain't gonna lie fun
- 50:48Speaker 4: with the self. This organization, man, they showed love. I
- 50:51Speaker 4: ain't gonna lie they you know, the big time organization.
- 50:56Speaker 4: I remember you saying something about, uh, the food and
- 51:01Speaker 4: when you could have to shoot around.
- 51:03Speaker 2: They do that at top notch. You know what I'm saying.
- 51:06Speaker 2: Go on the road.
- 51:06Speaker 4: They got brunch on the road. They food after. I
- 51:11Speaker 4: love the way they handled all they been for sure.
- 51:14Speaker 2: Man, they did that. They was fire.
- 51:16Speaker 1: When I played different my half of half a year,
- 51:19Speaker 1: my cup of coffee, it was definitely top nice though.
- 51:21Speaker 4: But losing it was getting to the to the to
- 51:24Speaker 4: the twenty teen, which I thought we should have won.
- 51:27Speaker 4: Kobe shot is it's worse for Senta Joe. You that's
- 51:32Speaker 4: that's ship I'm just giving you.
- 51:36Speaker 2: That was that's take a week. Was at the club
- 51:53Speaker 2: the roads, like walking up on Kobe store walk, don't
- 52:00Speaker 2: I know you just looking good? Nigga's shaking my head
- 52:09Speaker 2: rolls to talking about him and this nigga I forgot
- 52:14Speaker 2: to home. We talk a little project.
- 52:16Speaker 7: Yeah, shout the project Sigae nigga, no nobody nigga, nigga
- 52:21Speaker 7: fun and forget her heyt that Moe brother vibe and
- 52:29Speaker 7: like yeah, like you know, you know, let me go
- 52:34Speaker 7: strink in my city there and I know you're gonna
- 52:36Speaker 7: fat wanted acting up about making anybody.
- 52:40Speaker 2: I'm saying that everybody scared. I say that's funny. I
- 52:44Speaker 2: know you need saying taking pictures with the niggas ship like.
- 52:55Speaker 4: It's crazy. Man, I say that that specific yar bro.
- 53:00Speaker 4: I honestly, I was taking everything out of James Posey book.
- 53:05Speaker 4: And I don't think he gets his flowers. Get his flowers, bro,
- 53:10Speaker 4: And man, I was able to just lock in. Watch
- 53:12Speaker 4: Kobe's jam step, watch his footwork in the post, watch
- 53:15Speaker 4: his head fake, head fake, head fake. Because I had
- 53:18Speaker 4: my rookie year. I had fouled out six six thousand
- 53:21Speaker 4: and eight minutes.
- 53:22Speaker 2: Damn. So yeah, so lose all.
- 53:32Speaker 4: Right, But it took years and years and years and
- 53:38Speaker 4: years and years of studying that man after Posey left,
- 53:42Speaker 4: and that was that's how I was able to ken
- 53:43Speaker 4: on him, like all, I ain't finna fall for that
- 53:45Speaker 4: head fake no more. I ain't finna that jam step
- 53:47Speaker 4: you're doing. You're gonna have to swing through and go
- 53:49Speaker 4: all the way that that's that fade away. I ain't
- 53:52Speaker 4: contested with my left hand. I'm contesting the way we
- 53:54Speaker 4: fade to the right. Yeah, I ain't contesting with my
- 53:56Speaker 4: right I'm contesting with.
- 53:56Speaker 1: My left hand. You know what I'm saying. I ain't
- 53:58Speaker 1: fouling you on your elbow no more. I ain't scared
- 54:00Speaker 1: of you no more. Dude, pretty much. And that finals,
- 54:04Speaker 1: Like I said, Doc Rivers wrote it. What is his
- 54:07Speaker 1: guy as he should?
- 54:08Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.
- 54:09Speaker 4: Right, So I'm gonna road with the guys who who's
- 54:11Speaker 4: been proven, who's been in the league and did it.
- 54:13Speaker 2: But if Park wouldn't have.
- 54:14Speaker 1: Got hurt about saying part didn't get hurt to play
- 54:16Speaker 1: that game, that last one thing when they got hurt,
- 54:19Speaker 1: bro we the won that championship.
- 54:21Speaker 2: That's definitely then.
- 54:22Speaker 1: After that, man, you bring it on Man, No, I
- 54:24Speaker 1: think if he plays that brocking he.
- 54:27Speaker 2: Was locking them guys up. You're having a hard time.
- 54:30Speaker 1: He was bro but Paul having Yeah, I think I
- 54:35Speaker 1: think honestly they would get that serious any place for
- 54:38Speaker 1: you are hard.
- 54:38Speaker 2: You a Russian judge with themselves. This boy, you know,
- 54:43Speaker 2: you know it's still check up every time I see you.
- 54:45Speaker 2: But I don't know, man, I just think it was
- 54:48Speaker 2: play the.
- 54:49Speaker 1: Match up between him and ticket Man wanted to play him.
- 54:53Speaker 2: That's how Nigga got me fucked up. Thaky was really
- 54:58Speaker 2: mad Bradon play with me?
- 55:00Speaker 1: Yeah right now?
- 55:03Speaker 2: You know he take it?
- 55:04Speaker 4: There you looking at him like, I was like, bro,
- 55:09Speaker 4: we taking no we show? We talked, what's the Ain't
- 55:14Speaker 4: nobody ever talked to me like that, Gus, I don't
- 55:16Speaker 4: give a fun check.
- 55:20Speaker 1: Way from that game on Draft Kings for the show
- 55:22Speaker 1: I got, I'm taken under taking up. Now we gotta
- 55:26Speaker 1: talk about it.
- 55:26Speaker 2: Man.
- 55:26Speaker 1: You took you know what I'm saying, took your skills
- 55:28Speaker 1: to Memphis. Man changed the culture. Man changed the entire
- 55:31Speaker 1: culture of that team. Shouts the job Mary. He got
- 55:33Speaker 1: the city wrecking right now for what you did and
- 55:35Speaker 1: with that team did from Memphis and rejuvenated that city. Man,
- 55:38Speaker 1: you bout a real different type of energy. Man, how
- 55:39Speaker 1: was that transition from Boston down to Memphis? But the
- 55:42Speaker 1: transition was was I ain't gonna last saying with them late.
- 55:45Speaker 1: It was like like me in August some ship like that,
- 55:49Speaker 1: and I was sitting in the creer thinking like, damn,
- 55:51Speaker 1: it might be it. I was like, I just went
- 55:53Speaker 1: through the finals and nobody want me, and then I'm.
- 55:56Speaker 4: Like, damn, okay. It clicked because Chris Wallace, he drafted
- 55:59Speaker 4: me in in Boston. He was the assistant general manager
- 56:02Speaker 4: in Boston. So when he got there and you know,
- 56:04Speaker 4: he saw what I did in the finals, he was like, yo,
- 56:06Speaker 4: I need that, Like call me told me, like, y'all
- 56:09Speaker 4: need that. He's like, but it's one thing though, He
- 56:10Speaker 4: was like, are you and z Bo gonna be able
- 56:13Speaker 4: to play with each other?
- 56:13Speaker 2: I'm like what you mean? He was like, you guys
- 56:15Speaker 2: are two different affiliations.
- 56:17Speaker 1: Uh.
- 56:18Speaker 2: You know, I just don't want it to be a problem.
- 56:20Speaker 2: I got nine He's crazy show. He's like, I got
- 56:23Speaker 2: nine point seven million on the table for you. You
- 56:26Speaker 2: just need to know about you and z Bo. I'm like, man,
- 56:28Speaker 2: stop playing bro one love. That's my man, that's my man.
- 56:33Speaker 2: What were doing?
- 56:34Speaker 4: And then when I got there and I finally got
- 56:36Speaker 4: a chance to be around z Bo man just to
- 56:38Speaker 4: understand his heart and just just how just a big
- 56:41Speaker 4: teddy belt, you know what I'm saying. But don't play
- 56:43Speaker 4: with him like you know table I was just saying,
- 56:44Speaker 4: here he wanted the guys.
- 56:46Speaker 1: It was like it was like when I first met
- 56:49Speaker 1: him the first thing because he said lorenz and wright
- 56:51Speaker 1: uh funeral recipes lorenz Uh.
- 56:54Speaker 2: He was like, yeah, man, I saw you in the finals, this,
- 56:56Speaker 2: that and the other. He was like, man, I was like, man,
- 56:58Speaker 2: I want to get there. Bro. He was like, man,
- 57:00Speaker 2: you're gonna bring that championship mentality to the locker room.
- 57:03Speaker 1: Bro.
- 57:03Speaker 4: Like we're gonna make some noise, bro, Like we like
- 57:05Speaker 4: we missed the playoffs last year. He was like just
- 57:08Speaker 4: excited and I'm like, my nigga, you know what I'm saying.
- 57:13Speaker 4: And once we got to the season, it was like, damn.
- 57:16Speaker 1: When I got there, uh, you know, I just didn't
- 57:19Speaker 1: play Coach didn't won't he just didn't play me.
- 57:21Speaker 2: Like I'm like, Damn, I just got the finals, y'all.
- 57:24Speaker 2: It's the laughing stock of the league over here. What
- 57:26Speaker 2: y'all doing? Bro play me and coach Hollins.
- 57:28Speaker 4: At the time, what I got in uh intel on
- 57:31Speaker 4: was he wanted to pick the sign drel right. He
- 57:36Speaker 4: wanted space and then shooting. But Chris Wallace thought like, shit,
- 57:39Speaker 4: we need some stops down the stretch, you know what
- 57:41Speaker 4: I'm saying at the two spot.
- 57:42Speaker 1: And so.
- 57:44Speaker 4: It took me a minute to like, even, you know,
- 57:47Speaker 4: get some minutes, and specifically this one day, well I had,
- 57:53Speaker 4: I got some minutes against Kevin Durant.
- 57:58Speaker 2: I didn't study for him.
- 57:59Speaker 4: I was doing film on James Harden, watched all his
- 58:03Speaker 4: clips coming out that corner with Nick Collinson ketch d
- 58:07Speaker 4: hand off in the corner. I was studying all that
- 58:10Speaker 4: and then I look up, it's thirty eight on the clock,
- 58:11Speaker 4: and he like wiping off the board and putting Tony
- 58:15Speaker 4: name next to Kevin Durant name. I take my headphones out,
- 58:19Speaker 4: look at Rudy.
- 58:19Speaker 2: I'm urdie, you ain't playing like he's trying to be quiet.
- 58:25Speaker 4: Shit, I'm like, hold on, man, I ain't study for dude,
- 58:28Speaker 4: you feel I'm saying, But I like, fuck, I put
- 58:30Speaker 4: my headphone back on boom, go out there, man, I'm
- 58:33Speaker 4: talking about I had. I had a solid game like
- 58:36Speaker 4: twenty seven seven rebound fast, still you had to go.
- 58:41Speaker 4: So I was so hot though I was real hot,
- 58:43Speaker 4: and I was still hot at Rudy. I'm like, mother
- 58:46Speaker 4: fleet pole to play, like what you why would you
- 58:49Speaker 4: throw me in this situation? And then when a camera
- 58:51Speaker 4: man came, I think he ben come holler a zebo
- 58:53Speaker 4: because he bo here like thirty and fifteen or some shit,
- 58:55Speaker 4: and he like, oh, no, no you.
- 58:57Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm trying to walk back to the blocker
- 58:59Speaker 1: room so I can get root. Yeah, and he was like, yeah,
- 59:02Speaker 1: this performance caro on. You haven't been playing many minutes
- 59:05Speaker 1: and where did this come from?
- 59:06Speaker 4: So I'm just like all hard, great grind, like like
- 59:11Speaker 4: really but this was supposed to get shot in the
- 59:13Speaker 4: locker room.
- 59:15Speaker 2: And he caught it.
- 59:15Speaker 4: But by the time I get back to the city, man,
- 59:17Speaker 4: the whole city picked up on grit and grind like
- 59:21Speaker 4: this what that's that's how mentality?
- 59:22Speaker 1: This what?
- 59:23Speaker 2: But this is how identity? Right here and there he
- 59:25Speaker 2: just did it.
- 59:26Speaker 4: You know, he gets cracked up in the bottom of
- 59:28Speaker 4: what we're gonna hold out hands on and before you
- 59:32Speaker 4: know it, Bro, Like I said, man, we just made
- 59:34Speaker 4: noise from that point on you coming the ring and playing.
- 59:41Speaker 1: That.
- 59:43Speaker 2: That was no.
- 59:45Speaker 4: I ain't gonna lie. I didn't have no control over that.
- 59:49Speaker 4: Whoever did that, I'm a fan out. That was my
- 59:51Speaker 4: boy dad. That was gamester Bro, and it only played
- 59:56Speaker 4: when we whooping your.
- 59:59Speaker 2: Card.
- 1:00:00Speaker 1: I was coming on the court one game, I was like,
- 1:00:04Speaker 1: I'm like, nah, I went back to Atlanta. I was like,
- 1:00:07Speaker 1: we gotta play some better. You know, we play fire
- 1:00:09Speaker 1: music in Atlanta. But I'm like, they playing whoop that
- 1:00:13Speaker 1: game for Yeah, we were, I'm like, whoop that trick.
- 1:00:21Speaker 1: It's crazy, man, that's crazy because you go from you
- 1:00:24Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, figured out your minist there and
- 1:00:26Speaker 1: then you you know what I'm saying, the jersey about
- 1:00:28Speaker 1: to go up, man. Man, Yeah, yeah, yeah, man, I
- 1:00:31Speaker 1: mean it's actually a dream come true. Man. You know,
- 1:00:35Speaker 1: coming from where I come from, you know, housing authority,
- 1:00:38Speaker 1: you know, just overcoming a lot of hurdles growing up.
- 1:00:41Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, Yeah.
- 1:00:43Speaker 4: Scrapping, fighting, clawing, trying to just even get in the
- 1:00:51Speaker 4: just ranks of playing basketball. Man, y'all know that, y'all.
- 1:00:54Speaker 4: You know how hard this is man, just stay in
- 1:00:56Speaker 4: the league. It's a three or four year span with
- 1:00:58Speaker 4: some plass and man to even overcome that and not
- 1:01:01Speaker 4: be one of your you know, top notch scores the most,
- 1:01:05Speaker 4: Like I just got to do it on the like
- 1:01:07Speaker 4: I say, the all hearts side, you feel I'm saying,
- 1:01:08Speaker 4: the great and grand side, and just for you know them,
- 1:01:11Speaker 4: the honor my body of work. Memphis definitely showed me love.
- 1:01:14Speaker 4: So like I say, man, I got nothing of love
- 1:01:16Speaker 4: for that organization. I went, I ripped the organization everywhere proudly,
- 1:01:21Speaker 4: and like I said, it's a dream come true.
- 1:01:23Speaker 2: Man, I'm very appreciative of you.
- 1:01:25Speaker 3: Did fourteen years. Fourteen years solid, bro. I don't want
- 1:01:29Speaker 3: to talk about my time in New Orleans last year.
- 1:01:33Speaker 1: That's when I first really met t a being who
- 1:01:36Speaker 1: was out with We was walking down you know, got
- 1:01:37Speaker 1: the shoe store.
- 1:01:38Speaker 2: Well, now you gotta talk and he put he pulled
- 1:01:41Speaker 2: up for it.
- 1:01:43Speaker 1: Who I might have been with J Lou. Yeah, and
- 1:01:46Speaker 1: you brown up in and you had that. He was like,
- 1:01:49Speaker 1: it's bulletproof, nigga. He pulled up in like a truck.
- 1:01:56Speaker 2: It's bulletproof, nigga.
- 1:01:59Speaker 1: He was like.
- 1:02:01Speaker 2: Crazy, man, he just put fulling off.
- 1:02:05Speaker 4: No, I ain't gonna let my tam was as I said,
- 1:02:08Speaker 4: coach gentry, man ain't gonna let he was not fucking
- 1:02:11Speaker 4: with me. He was like, yeah, he always says stay ready,
- 1:02:15Speaker 4: we're gonna need you. We're gonna need stay ready, We're
- 1:02:17Speaker 4: gonna need you. Man didn't need ship from me. I said, Man,
- 1:02:22Speaker 4: you know why he what this was did? I don't know,
- 1:02:25Speaker 4: running in or something.
- 1:02:26Speaker 1: I mean, I mean the people that was playing in
- 1:02:29Speaker 1: front of me, I ain't gonna lie speak salute to
- 1:02:31Speaker 1: them who was playing from each one more small g
- 1:02:34Speaker 1: Miller uh.
- 1:02:38Speaker 4: And I think that's it mother moment. But I just
- 1:02:42Speaker 4: didn't think he was. He was in this utilizing his
- 1:02:45Speaker 4: option right right. But I end up tearing my knee
- 1:02:50Speaker 4: a little bit. I think I got like a fraction
- 1:02:52Speaker 4: in my knee. And then but I thought that I
- 1:02:55Speaker 4: ain't gonna I thought he was gonna win it. The
- 1:02:57Speaker 4: way the way Drew Holliday was playing, or we talked
- 1:03:00Speaker 4: about that all the time, special the way Anthony Davis
- 1:03:03Speaker 4: and the was both they both was averaging twenty five
- 1:03:05Speaker 4: and fifteen.
- 1:03:07Speaker 3: What y'all did to Portland, That's what made me think,
- 1:03:10Speaker 3: like oh, they can take it off.
- 1:03:12Speaker 2: He got hurt.
- 1:03:13Speaker 4: I was like, and so when Boogie and then that's
- 1:03:15Speaker 4: what I said. Boogie the way he was playing man,
- 1:03:17Speaker 4: the way he was changing his attitude, like the way
- 1:03:20Speaker 4: I'm talking about he was.
- 1:03:21Speaker 2: He was a team player like he was. He got
- 1:03:24Speaker 2: the stigma off his name what was in Sacramento. And
- 1:03:27Speaker 2: I love for that, man. I ain't gonna lie a
- 1:03:29Speaker 2: big shout out the Boogie Man and that specific. Yeah.
- 1:03:32Speaker 4: Like I said, I just it was unfortunate for Boogie
- 1:03:34Speaker 4: to get hurt. And then they traded all us me jamiay.
- 1:03:38Speaker 4: He just bust that ship with them. It went crazy
- 1:03:40Speaker 4: for show. Listen, man, we appreciate you man. Before you
- 1:03:43Speaker 4: get out of here, we got to shout out the
- 1:03:44Speaker 4: show man. Oh yeah, after mud man Man, we gotta
- 1:03:48Speaker 4: we got a special guest coming soon.
- 1:03:51Speaker 2: We're gonna get it calling on. Sure, he put me on.
- 1:03:57Speaker 2: He just put me on. Yeah you know, but it
- 1:04:00Speaker 2: was early though. Bro caught y'all.
- 1:04:02Speaker 4: First episode I watched said, yeah, we're working man, We're
- 1:04:11Speaker 4: working man. I think about this podcast world man. What
- 1:04:13Speaker 4: I like about it is I get to see people's journeys.
- 1:04:17Speaker 4: I get to see how they you know what I'm saying,
- 1:04:19Speaker 4: Damn you went through that. Damn that was going on
- 1:04:21Speaker 4: every time. Okay, those guys you had to face against.
- 1:04:24Speaker 4: I like hearing that because every guy's story is different
- 1:04:27Speaker 4: and every guy's got a story to tell.
- 1:04:29Speaker 2: So I like hearing it.
- 1:04:30Speaker 1: Man.
- 1:04:30Speaker 4: And the one thing about getting to the league, it
- 1:04:33Speaker 4: ain't no, it ain't no, right, bro, It's a privilege.
- 1:04:36Speaker 4: So to be a part of that fraternity, man, and
- 1:04:37Speaker 4: talk to guys about that and hear how they came
- 1:04:39Speaker 4: about it.
- 1:04:40Speaker 2: Man, I love it, man, I love it, and you
- 1:04:42Speaker 2: good at it. That's what me like. Like, I listened,
- 1:04:45Speaker 2: like this is actually good. He asked the right questions.
- 1:04:48Speaker 2: It's good. So this ship, I mean, I'm a fan.
- 1:04:51Speaker 2: I watch every episode. Came out the game with Jaron
- 1:04:54Speaker 2: Jackson k D.
- 1:04:57Speaker 4: I'm like, that's one thing man, once you keeping it real,
- 1:05:01Speaker 4: once you you know what I'm saying, that fuck with you, man,
- 1:05:04Speaker 4: They're gonna fuck with you.
- 1:05:04Speaker 2: And that's and that's how we do.
- 1:05:06Speaker 1: Man.
- 1:05:06Speaker 2: We want to get everybody they flowers and just let
- 1:05:08Speaker 2: them know man, it's all up.
- 1:05:10Speaker 1: Man.
- 1:05:10Speaker 3: Before we do go out here, I want to say
- 1:05:12Speaker 3: you also a ride, motherfucker for what you did for
- 1:05:14Speaker 3: Jefferson truck.
- 1:05:15Speaker 1: Bro.
- 1:05:18Speaker 2: That was my first one said here my text, do
- 1:05:23Speaker 2: not give me your cop. Do not give me your car?
- 1:05:27Speaker 1: Bro?
- 1:05:27Speaker 3: Can you please, just before we got here, bro, tell
- 1:05:30Speaker 3: them what you did to this Nagave truck. Bro.
- 1:05:31Speaker 2: So, man, I get the I get the cop. And
- 1:05:33Speaker 2: you know, we was real what it is? What kind
- 1:05:35Speaker 2: was a hum V?
- 1:05:37Speaker 4: So now we was real big on switching cars, and
- 1:05:40Speaker 4: me I was I did the night life a lot,
- 1:05:41Speaker 4: so I'll be out. I want to get Gerald Green Coss.
- 1:05:45Speaker 4: Sometimes I switch up with Perks, sometimes I switch up
- 1:05:47Speaker 4: with whoever right. And this specific time want to ride
- 1:05:51Speaker 4: a humpy because out here puting like four five twelves
- 1:05:54Speaker 4: in the back of that month, I'm a fucker beating
- 1:05:55Speaker 4: so hard. I'm like, so I end up going on
- 1:05:59Speaker 4: the date, and you know, cheesecake Factory just came out, bro,
- 1:06:02Speaker 4: So that was the move. But when you go into
- 1:06:05Speaker 4: the clearance, you know, I don't know why ain't getting
- 1:06:07Speaker 4: one hundred dollars and pay for the ballet right there
- 1:06:09Speaker 4: for a season? You got my cheap ad went right
- 1:06:12Speaker 4: over there to the twelve dollars parking and they clearly
- 1:06:15Speaker 4: tell you it's a clearance. I ain't think of the
- 1:06:17Speaker 4: clearance because the music so loud. I'm trying to really
- 1:06:20Speaker 4: show out in front of chick Maw. I went through
- 1:06:21Speaker 4: that motherfucker like boom. I say, what the hell are
- 1:06:25Speaker 4: they shooting?
- 1:06:27Speaker 2: Pool?
- 1:06:27Speaker 4: I kept going Bro, I kept going Bro. I'm like, hey,
- 1:06:30Speaker 4: I ain't know what was going on. So we get
- 1:06:32Speaker 4: out the copro. Soon we got the cot the girl
- 1:06:34Speaker 4: like it's the composed to be.
- 1:06:37Speaker 2: I say, man, this man gonna kill me. Listen to
- 1:06:39Speaker 2: a drop that was the drop.
- 1:06:44Speaker 1: And so and so. When I did that, Bro, I
- 1:06:46Speaker 1: ain't on le bro. I'll say, Bro, you will never
- 1:06:48Speaker 1: trade cop again. Bro.
- 1:06:50Speaker 2: It was all the way back then. So but that
- 1:06:52Speaker 2: have it, man, little Blooper.
- 1:06:55Speaker 1: Appreciate you shouting out, appreciate it, shot take out hey,
- 1:06:59Speaker 1: love love love, check out OTJ Cachling that we appreciate
- 1:07:03Speaker 1: you all. Shout out to Ray, shout to Dix. We
- 1:07:04Speaker 1: hold it out here all Star Weekend, much love. We'll
- 1:07:07Speaker 1: be back next time. Club five twenty The volume