Latest / Destination Unlimited with Victor Fuhrman / Fotoula Adrimi – Sacred Mysticism of Egypt
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- 0:04Speaker 1: My name is Victor Furman. Some call me the Voice.
- 0:09Speaker 1: I've always been fascinated with human nature, spirituality, science, and
- 0:15Speaker 1: the crossroads at which they meet. Join me now and
- 0:18Speaker 1: we will explore these topics and so much more with
- 0:22Speaker 1: fascinating guests, authors and experts who will guide us to
- 0:28Speaker 1: Destination Unlimited. How may ancient shamanic wisdom combat negative energy
- 0:41Speaker 1: in today's world, including demons and dark magic. My guest
- 0:46Speaker 1: this week on Destination Unlimited. Foretula, a Dreamy, has been
- 0:50Speaker 1: using this wisdom since two thousand and six to bring
- 0:53Speaker 1: light and healing into our world. Fetula is a spiritual
- 0:58Speaker 1: teacher and co founder of the Isis School of Holistic Health,
- 1:02Speaker 1: where she teaches the Path of the Living Light, ancient
- 1:05Speaker 1: Egyptian spirituality received through direct transmission from the Goddess Isis.
- 1:12Speaker 1: In her latest book, Sacred Mysticism of Egypt, she draws
- 1:16Speaker 1: on decades of lived practice, initiations, and pilgrimages to Egypt
- 1:22Speaker 1: to reveal the Seven Gates of Awareness and the soul
- 1:25Speaker 1: remembered wisdom of the Golden Times. Her book, The Golden
- 1:30Speaker 1: Book of Wisdom, Ancient Spirituality and Shamanism for Modern Times
- 1:35Speaker 1: is recognized as one of the best books on introduction
- 1:38Speaker 1: to shamanism. Her website is the Isis Schooloholistichealth dot com
- 1:44Speaker 1: and she joins me this week to share her amazing path.
- 1:48Speaker 1: Please join me in welcoming to destination a limited Fetullah
- 1:53Speaker 1: a dreaming Welcome Foretula, thank.
- 1:56Speaker 2: You very much for inviting me, Victor, and it's an
- 1:59Speaker 2: honor to be here and sharing this sacred space that
- 2:03Speaker 2: you create with me and all the listeners. I'm delighted
- 2:07Speaker 2: to be here.
- 2:08Speaker 1: And I'm delighted that you are with us. And for
- 2:10Speaker 1: our listeners, We're going to start out with a special
- 2:12Speaker 1: question for you. What is the meaning of your name
- 2:15Speaker 1: for Tula?
- 2:17Speaker 2: Oh? Yes, so my name comes really from the full
- 2:22Speaker 2: name is for Tini and that means light. You know,
- 2:26Speaker 2: if you think about Fose is the Greek root of photography,
- 2:29Speaker 2: of so many words, phosphorus, and fortula is part of that.
- 2:35Speaker 2: So in Greece we make the names, we take the
- 2:38Speaker 2: official names, and we kind of change them to give
- 2:42Speaker 2: them a bit more sweetness. So fortula means sweet light
- 2:45Speaker 2: really yeah, And it's the light of Epiphany that we
- 2:50Speaker 2: celebrate on the sixth of January in the Greek Orthodox calendar,
- 2:55Speaker 2: so it comes from that, and it was the name
- 2:58Speaker 2: of my grandmother. But also my grandmother was of course
- 3:02Speaker 2: named for Tinni. But there is also an ancient route
- 3:06Speaker 2: that was like Phony in the Pillion mountain where she
- 3:09Speaker 2: came from, and that comes from Persephony. So the two names,
- 3:13Speaker 2: the ancient Greek and the more kind of modern Greek.
- 3:17Speaker 2: If you like to come together in this name.
- 3:20Speaker 1: And this name reflects that you work, that you bring
- 3:23Speaker 1: to our world. So let's get started talking about that.
- 3:25Speaker 1: Please share with us your early path and what was
- 3:28Speaker 1: your understanding of spirituality through your teenage years.
- 3:33Speaker 2: Oh yes, Actually what happened to me was that I
- 3:38Speaker 2: grew up in Greece, so as I was a child.
- 3:42Speaker 2: When I was a small child, I was so connected.
- 3:45Speaker 2: But what happened to me when I became a teenager.
- 3:50Speaker 2: I made the mistake to share because I wanted to
- 3:53Speaker 2: help somebody. I wanted to say to them, please have trust.
- 3:57Speaker 2: There is such a bigger picture than what you see,
- 4:01Speaker 2: and because I could feel people were going through a
- 4:04Speaker 2: hard time, and I felt as if I wanted to help,
- 4:08Speaker 2: and so I made a mistake to share that I
- 4:11Speaker 2: could feel the spirits, the the you know, Mother Mary
- 4:16Speaker 2: and and all these beautiful beings, the angels, and I
- 4:20Speaker 2: always had that connection, and that was a mistake. And
- 4:25Speaker 2: after that, what happened to me as a teenager. The
- 4:28Speaker 2: fear came because people said, you know, that's devil's work,
- 4:32Speaker 2: that's what happens when you know, you mess up with spirits.
- 4:35Speaker 2: Although it wasn't my choice, really they came to me.
- 4:39Speaker 2: These beautiful beings are not far away. And as a
- 4:44Speaker 2: child's young child, that had no barriers. So so what happened.
- 4:48Speaker 2: When you have no barriers to towards the love of
- 4:52Speaker 2: the divine, you really feel it. But as I grew
- 4:55Speaker 2: into the teenager and the mind, the conditioned mind be
- 5:00Speaker 2: came more prominent. That connection became a source of fear,
- 5:04Speaker 2: and I lived in that for some years. I was
- 5:09Speaker 2: so afraid of the spiritual reality. And because it was
- 5:15Speaker 2: really you know, I was told at the time only
- 5:18Speaker 2: the priest has the right to do that by not
- 5:22Speaker 2: by the priest, by by everyday people. There was a
- 5:25Speaker 2: big fear in that. And what happened to me when
- 5:28Speaker 2: I was thirty Then everything opened up again and there
- 5:33Speaker 2: was no fear. I went back to the connection that
- 5:36Speaker 2: I had as a child. So for those who are astrologers,
- 5:40Speaker 2: I'm not an astrologer, but the astrologers told me, you know,
- 5:44Speaker 2: that is a Saturn return, and they said, what happens
- 5:48Speaker 2: to you at the age of thirty, You go back
- 5:50Speaker 2: to what was your purpose in this life. And I
- 5:54Speaker 2: believe my purpose in this life is to really immerse
- 5:57Speaker 2: myself into the ancient teachings of light and leave them
- 6:02Speaker 2: and bring them back. And that's what I've done with
- 6:05Speaker 2: my work, with my teaching, with my books. All of
- 6:10Speaker 2: that is sole evolution, because that's what has fed me,
- 6:15Speaker 2: and that's what I share and I can't help it.
- 6:17Speaker 2: It's just there.
- 6:19Speaker 1: I share that experience with you, having had that spiritual
- 6:22Speaker 1: reawakening or the return that you had mentioned in my
- 6:25Speaker 1: thirties also, and it changed my life and enabled me
- 6:30Speaker 1: to be there and be present to help others. And
- 6:33Speaker 1: I'm so grateful for that opportunity. So I completely understand
- 6:36Speaker 1: what you're talking about.
- 6:39Speaker 2: Thank you so much, Victor. It's just that, like the
- 6:44Speaker 2: floodgates opened for me when I was thirty and everything
- 6:48Speaker 2: made sense, and I had a big experience of healing.
- 6:53Speaker 2: I had never done any healing on anybody, and I
- 6:57Speaker 2: was reading this book and said, all you do is
- 6:59Speaker 2: imagine blue light around whoever you wish to heal. And
- 7:03Speaker 2: I thought, I'll just practice with a dog. And the
- 7:07Speaker 2: dog had a tumor, and the tumor in the next
- 7:10Speaker 2: day was a quarter of its size, and all I
- 7:14Speaker 2: did was to imagine blue light. I really saw the
- 7:17Speaker 2: blue light then, and I felt it was Beginner's luck
- 7:21Speaker 2: for the listeners. I can't do that. It was just
- 7:25Speaker 2: that I time to just something to invite me to say,
- 7:29Speaker 2: there is more to you than you think. There is
- 7:33Speaker 2: a power that can work through you. And that opened me.
- 7:37Speaker 2: So I give great thanks to that, to that dog,
- 7:41Speaker 2: he was my teacher.
- 7:42Speaker 1: Wonderful. Tell us about your memories of past lives as
- 7:47Speaker 1: a teacher in the ancient temples of Egypt and Atlantis.
- 7:51Speaker 2: Yes, thank you so much for this question, because, as
- 7:56Speaker 2: I said, when I was a child, my first memory
- 7:59Speaker 2: of a past last life, because when I was six,
- 8:02Speaker 2: so as six years old, I had this vision and
- 8:06Speaker 2: it was because of somebody else that I remembered from
- 8:09Speaker 2: a past life. And this vision came and said you
- 8:14Speaker 2: were in Egypt, and I was in Egypt with this person.
- 8:18Speaker 2: And when I became thirty I started having visions and
- 8:24Speaker 2: encountered again my helping spirit, which I had met also
- 8:29Speaker 2: when I was young, and that was what we call
- 8:32Speaker 2: the goddess Izis. Although I don't like the word goddess
- 8:35Speaker 2: because it has a different meaning in our world than
- 8:39Speaker 2: it had a meaning in ancient Egypt. But I remembered
- 8:44Speaker 2: the amazing, amazing work we did in the temples, this
- 8:49Speaker 2: path of service, being immersed in the light. And it
- 8:53Speaker 2: wasn't an easy life, because we know the spiritual path.
- 8:56Speaker 2: It's not just beautiful incense, praying and all of that.
- 9:02Speaker 2: It's also really hard to work where you forgive yourself,
- 9:07Speaker 2: where you love yourself while you surrender your surrender your ego.
- 9:12Speaker 2: But it was so rewarding. And I remembered Atlantis. I
- 9:16Speaker 2: remember the fall of Atlantis, and I remember going to
- 9:20Speaker 2: Egypt after Atlantis, and all of that came flooding in
- 9:25Speaker 2: with a lot of information, but also I would say energy.
- 9:29Speaker 2: So the temples in ancient Egypt was a place of learning.
- 9:36Speaker 2: Everything was part of the divine learning. So you could
- 9:41Speaker 2: say that even people who were engineers, or who were doctors,
- 9:47Speaker 2: or who were nurses, who were midwives, who were gardeners,
- 9:51Speaker 2: who were making incense. They all brought that through this
- 9:55Speaker 2: divine connection. So we had the practical and the spiritual
- 9:59Speaker 2: come together, and it was a sacred life. And that
- 10:05Speaker 2: when I think back to that time, and I described
- 10:08Speaker 2: this very much in my book Sacred Mysticism of Egypt,
- 10:12Speaker 2: which is a transmission of light too. I feel that light,
- 10:17Speaker 2: I feel that energy, I feel that vibration, and there
- 10:21Speaker 2: is a huge uplivement and things, not just uplivement at
- 10:25Speaker 2: soul level, but this alignment with our spirit. So that
- 10:31Speaker 2: was that was my life in the Temples, and I
- 10:33Speaker 2: was a teacher there, not just in one lifetime, different lifetimes.
- 10:39Speaker 2: I remember the time of the Pyramids, how the pyramids
- 10:43Speaker 2: were built, how we build the pyramids, and in my
- 10:46Speaker 2: memory it was us human beings building these pyramids. But
- 10:51Speaker 2: we had such a wonderful understanding of the world, of
- 10:57Speaker 2: the energy, of the etheric energy, of the multi dimensional universe,
- 11:02Speaker 2: and that's how we created as well as engineering. Of course,
- 11:06Speaker 2: the practical and the spiritual comes together. But there was
- 11:09Speaker 2: a huge heart connection, the wise heart connection that I remember.
- 11:16Speaker 2: And yeah, and we practiced the mysteries too.
- 11:21Speaker 1: Absolutely. What inspired your first book, The Golden Book of wisdom,
- 11:26Speaker 1: ancient spirituality and shamanism for modern times.
- 11:32Speaker 2: So what happens to me happened to me Victor, is
- 11:35Speaker 2: that in my family in Greece, where I grew up,
- 11:40Speaker 2: there was remnants of what we call shamanism in the West.
- 11:44Speaker 2: They don't have that word in Greece. Now we do,
- 11:47Speaker 2: but in those times nobody knew what salmanism was because
- 11:51Speaker 2: we use Greek words. So there was the remnants of
- 11:55Speaker 2: a lineage that came from my great grandfather and passed
- 11:59Speaker 2: to my father, and it was not available two women
- 12:02Speaker 2: at the time. But I was so intrigued, and when
- 12:07Speaker 2: you know, synchronicities took place again just after I became
- 12:11Speaker 2: thirty two, and this, this amazing path of shamanism opened
- 12:18Speaker 2: up for me, and it made complete sense, and I
- 12:21Speaker 2: start to remember again. I studied with wonderful teachers, indigenous
- 12:26Speaker 2: and Western teachers, but I really wanted to write a
- 12:29Speaker 2: book that is not just about how to connect with spirits.
- 12:33Speaker 2: That's in the book too, but makes sense about our
- 12:36Speaker 2: journey of life, reincarnation, incarnation, the path, how we bring
- 12:42Speaker 2: samanism into everyday life, how we evolve through bringing back
- 12:47Speaker 2: our soul power, our our life or senergy, what is
- 12:52Speaker 2: the Samanic death, what is our sole purpose? And how
- 12:57Speaker 2: can we work in a way that is safe for people.
- 13:02Speaker 2: So it's an amazing book. It's a very big book,
- 13:06Speaker 2: and people start when they start reading it, they say,
- 13:09Speaker 2: sometimes I'm just stuck on this second chapter or third chapter,
- 13:13Speaker 2: because every time I read it, I just go so
- 13:16Speaker 2: far and then the energy is so big and then
- 13:19Speaker 2: things fall into place, but I have to stay there
- 13:22Speaker 2: for a while. So I feel also that book is
- 13:25Speaker 2: transmitting knowledge, and I wanted to bring a book that
- 13:29Speaker 2: will help people in their everyday life to those who
- 13:33Speaker 2: are seeking the sole evolution through a connection with the earth,
- 13:37Speaker 2: with the spirits, with the compassionate, helping spirits. Because I
- 13:42Speaker 2: only work for the light. That is a big decision
- 13:45Speaker 2: I made right from the start. That's how I came.
- 13:49Speaker 2: But for those people who wish to work with somanically,
- 13:56Speaker 2: I felt, this is an amazing book. It has so much,
- 13:59Speaker 2: so much is really use a golden book of wisdom.
- 14:02Speaker 2: The spirits gave me those words and and uh and
- 14:06Speaker 2: will give people so much more than than just how
- 14:10Speaker 2: to connect to contact the spirit and how to have
- 14:13Speaker 2: a spirit guide.
- 14:14Speaker 1: When did you realize you were a psychic medium and
- 14:18Speaker 1: how did that change your life?
- 14:21Speaker 3: Yes?
- 14:21Speaker 2: Wow, so, as I said, yes, as a child, I
- 14:25Speaker 2: was so connected I could see the spirits, but that
- 14:28Speaker 2: was my reality. And one member of my family said jokingly,
- 14:33Speaker 2: once you know, you spend more time speaking to the
- 14:36Speaker 2: dead than you speak to the living, because for me,
- 14:39Speaker 2: there is no death. And I had I had that
- 14:42Speaker 2: understanding as a child, so I could say I was
- 14:45Speaker 2: I was like, I was born like that. But what
- 14:51Speaker 2: happened to me again when at the age of thirty,
- 14:55Speaker 2: these beings of light came came to me and started
- 15:00Speaker 2: working with me. And it was a big thirst, a
- 15:03Speaker 2: thirst in my heart that said, you need to find
- 15:07Speaker 2: more about this, You need to you need to learn
- 15:10Speaker 2: this again because it had sat down, these paths, had
- 15:14Speaker 2: sat down the mediumship when, as I said, as a teenager,
- 15:18Speaker 2: I wasn't practicing it, so the gift had left me
- 15:21Speaker 2: for a while, so I could become you know, could
- 15:24Speaker 2: go and study in the university. I studied town planning
- 15:28Speaker 2: and all of that and lived a normal life. And
- 15:30Speaker 2: then when I walked back into my path, I thought,
- 15:35Speaker 2: I really need to build that bridge again. And it
- 15:39Speaker 2: took practice. It didn't come like that. It didn't just
- 15:43Speaker 2: just just appeared that I wasn't you know, I didn't
- 15:47Speaker 2: just make a decision right. And I was a psychic
- 15:50Speaker 2: medium in the past, So let me speak to the
- 15:53Speaker 2: spirits again. So I couldn't really see it took me.
- 15:59Speaker 2: The spirits couldn't hear them, and that was difficult because
- 16:03Speaker 2: I thought, oh, if only I could go back to
- 16:06Speaker 2: what I used to be able to do. But after,
- 16:10Speaker 2: after training, and that was good for me, I had
- 16:14Speaker 2: to go through those stages of training to realize how
- 16:18Speaker 2: I can actually teach mediumship, How can I share mediumship?
- 16:22Speaker 2: How can I do this safely for people? What happens
- 16:26Speaker 2: if we don't do it safely? Because the spirits have
- 16:30Speaker 2: also given me some hard lessons too. It's not always
- 16:34Speaker 2: just straightforward. So I went through that path for a
- 16:37Speaker 2: few months, opening up to the spirits step by step,
- 16:42Speaker 2: and then again everything just came back together. So I
- 16:47Speaker 2: would say, at about the age from thirty to thirty one,
- 16:52Speaker 2: thirty two, et cetera. Everything just kept coming and coming.
- 16:57Speaker 2: And now what I do is I teach or ac
- 17:00Speaker 2: our mediumship, which is different to the normal mediumship that
- 17:04Speaker 2: you know talking about with people who have passed. So
- 17:08Speaker 2: an oracle speaks to the enlightened beings. That's the tradition
- 17:12Speaker 2: of ancient Greece that we know, you know from from
- 17:16Speaker 2: from Greece, from Delphi, from Dodona, where people went there
- 17:21Speaker 2: to a medium who was an oracle. She brought the
- 17:25Speaker 2: voice of the enlightened ones of the of Apollo of
- 17:29Speaker 2: Ekati or Hecate, and she gave advice, not so much
- 17:34Speaker 2: about everyday life. Sometimes if people asked about their everyday
- 17:38Speaker 2: life or or or things they should figure out themselves.
- 17:42Speaker 2: She gave sort of advice that was not straightforward and
- 17:46Speaker 2: people had to think about it and reinterpret it. But
- 17:50Speaker 2: in major things that came that are about our evolution
- 17:54Speaker 2: as human beings, she was very precise. And so I'm
- 17:59Speaker 2: teaching that those paths of being the oracle now and
- 18:06Speaker 2: I had to relearn that myself. So I've been practicing
- 18:11Speaker 2: for twenty years being a channel of enlightened beings and
- 18:15Speaker 2: they come and they speak through me, and the energy
- 18:19Speaker 2: that they bring is just wonderful, beautiful.
- 18:22Speaker 1: Can anyone become a medium?
- 18:26Speaker 2: Well, that is a good question, Victory. So where I
- 18:31Speaker 2: live in Scotland, people are very gifted. Normally I don't
- 18:35Speaker 2: know what it is. It's maybe the Celtic land, the
- 18:38Speaker 2: Celtic heritage. Maybe there is a connection of the people
- 18:45Speaker 2: here with the fay, the fairy realm. Sometimes I see
- 18:49Speaker 2: people and I think, oh, you are a fairy, you know.
- 18:52Speaker 2: Look at the ears changing to the pointed ears, and
- 18:55Speaker 2: I'm thinking, goodness, you are so much in this alternative reality.
- 19:01Speaker 2: You have one foot here in this everyday world and
- 19:04Speaker 2: one foot in the alternative reality. So where I practice
- 19:10Speaker 2: in Scotland, in Glasgow, it is I can see so
- 19:13Speaker 2: many people are able to do it. But when I
- 19:17Speaker 2: go back to my home country in Greece and people
- 19:20Speaker 2: ask me, I see a lot of the Greek people
- 19:23Speaker 2: are very much in their mind. They are theorizing rather
- 19:26Speaker 2: than listening. So when we are so much in our
- 19:30Speaker 2: conditioned mind and we cannot listen to the inner voice,
- 19:36Speaker 2: it's very difficult then to listen to the spirits. We
- 19:39Speaker 2: have to find that quiet space, that calmness, so we
- 19:44Speaker 2: can really feel something that is around us always. But
- 19:49Speaker 2: if we are already making asceptions of how these mediumships
- 19:54Speaker 2: should be, if we read all the books and we
- 19:57Speaker 2: kind of try and say I know everything because I've
- 20:01Speaker 2: read all these books, but I never have seen a spirit.
- 20:04Speaker 2: Maybe the reason is that our mind is already full.
- 20:08Speaker 2: So I think it's this part of our human heritage.
- 20:12Speaker 2: I have seen a time, a long long time ago,
- 20:16Speaker 2: before before Atlantic even where everybody could speak to the spirits,
- 20:21Speaker 2: everybody could speak telepathically to themselves, to life. They could
- 20:26Speaker 2: hear the voice of nature, the voice of the trees,
- 20:30Speaker 2: the voice of the fire, and that is maybe the
- 20:34Speaker 2: Samanic heritage. But I have seen that, and we didn't
- 20:38Speaker 2: use as much language. It was mine to mind communication.
- 20:42Speaker 2: We didn't have to have to learn all these different
- 20:45Speaker 2: foreign languages because we could communicate with the psychic sense.
- 20:51Speaker 2: So I've seen that, you know, a very very distant
- 20:54Speaker 2: past that humanity had all these amazing powers and gifts,
- 20:59Speaker 2: and I feel that we are still with us. So
- 21:02Speaker 2: for most people, I would say, if we try it,
- 21:05Speaker 2: if we work at it, it is possible. But some
- 21:09Speaker 2: people maybe have other gifts, and that's okay too.
- 21:14Speaker 1: Absolutely my guest for Tula A Dreamy. We're going to
- 21:17Speaker 1: be talking about her latest book, Sacred Mysticism of Egypt,
- 21:21Speaker 1: The Ancient Path of Pecka Initiation, and we'll talk more
- 21:24Speaker 1: about her offerings at her school. Tell us about your school, please.
- 21:28Speaker 1: The Isis School of Holistic Health, so the Icy.
- 21:32Speaker 2: School of Calistic Health that I find found it in
- 21:35Speaker 2: twenty fifteen with my colleague Fiuna Fi Sutherland. And what
- 21:41Speaker 2: we do there is we teach so many things, so
- 21:45Speaker 2: many paths, because I have so many facets. So I
- 21:49Speaker 2: bring the ancient Egyptian work as I remember it from
- 21:53Speaker 2: the mystery schools and as I have been given it
- 21:57Speaker 2: from my helping spirit Goddess Isis. So Isis came to
- 22:01Speaker 2: me in two thousand and six and she said would
- 22:04Speaker 2: you be my teacher? And I said yes, not knowing
- 22:07Speaker 2: what that meant. So since then I haven't had many
- 22:12Speaker 2: days of She has given me a huge body of
- 22:15Speaker 2: work of spiritual teaching called the Seven Gates of Awareness,
- 22:20Speaker 2: and I teach that in the school. I teach introduction
- 22:23Speaker 2: to the ancient Egyptian mysteries for those people who just
- 22:27Speaker 2: want to just familiarize with the energy first, and then
- 22:31Speaker 2: for those who want to follow a path of the
- 22:34Speaker 2: ancient initiate. I bring that forward and it is very beautiful.
- 22:39Speaker 2: I also teach the Samanic path, right from the introduction
- 22:43Speaker 2: to Shamanism and practitioner, Advanced practitioner, even going to the
- 22:48Speaker 2: teacher training, I teach the Samanic drum, which is very
- 22:51Speaker 2: different to what you normally find, something that is not
- 22:56Speaker 2: really taught very much in the West. And other teachings
- 23:00Speaker 2: that I brought forward. There are amazing esoteric teachings that
- 23:04Speaker 2: I've been given. In twenty twelve, the Rays of Divine
- 23:08Speaker 2: Consciousness came to me on top of an ancient heal
- 23:11Speaker 2: in Scotland and they have to do with the spiritual
- 23:17Speaker 2: DNA and healing the disconnection we have with our spirit
- 23:21Speaker 2: and with our body. So I've been working with that
- 23:25Speaker 2: past life regression therapy. I do all of that because
- 23:30Speaker 2: it really helps people, and I practice it so much
- 23:35Speaker 2: with so many people, and there's so much wealth of
- 23:37Speaker 2: knowledge that has come through that. So the school, the
- 23:41Speaker 2: motto of the school, if you like, is that the
- 23:44Speaker 2: purpose of the soul is to awaken, and I really
- 23:48Speaker 2: believe that. Sometimes people come and say, I want to
- 23:51Speaker 2: heal people, I want to help people, I want to
- 23:55Speaker 2: help the spirits that dead ones go to the light
- 23:58Speaker 2: and all of that, and all of that is great,
- 24:00Speaker 2: but then as we go through all the knowledge, we
- 24:04Speaker 2: find that our path actually is leading us to awakening
- 24:08Speaker 2: into our light and that is the purpose of the school.
- 24:12Speaker 2: And I am as much a teacher as a student
- 24:15Speaker 2: as well, because I practice all these teachings for myself.
- 24:20Speaker 1: And what is the website that people can find out
- 24:22Speaker 1: more about this work?
- 24:23Speaker 2: Thank you Victory is called the Icy School of Holistic
- 24:26Speaker 2: Health dot com all on one word. So there's so
- 24:31Speaker 2: much there and people can start by subscribing to our
- 24:36Speaker 2: newsletter because there are articles, loads of loads of things
- 24:40Speaker 2: that I share there. Every every month I share channeling
- 24:43Speaker 2: from ices or they can. We have transmissions that are
- 24:47Speaker 2: free energy transmissions every Wednesday and they can they can
- 24:53Speaker 2: try that. And then we have online courses pre recording
- 24:57Speaker 2: also live and then of course the impression work too.
- 25:01Speaker 2: So as I said, not many days off since I
- 25:04Speaker 2: said yes to my helping spirit.
- 25:08Speaker 1: We'll be back with more fetula after these words on
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- 25:40Speaker 1: Back on Destination Unlimited, My guests this week as Fetula
- 25:44Speaker 1: a Dreaming, we're going to be talking about her path
- 25:46Speaker 1: and we're going to also talk about her latest book,
- 25:49Speaker 1: Sacred Mysticism of Egypt The Ancient Path of Hekka Initiation. Fetula,
- 25:54Speaker 1: please share with us what inspired that book.
- 25:57Speaker 2: That book was inspired by my health spirit, the Goddess Isis,
- 26:02Speaker 2: who has been with me, not just in this lifetime,
- 26:05Speaker 2: but many lifetimes. And after practicing her teachings for many
- 26:11Speaker 2: years since two thousand and six, then then she came
- 26:15Speaker 2: and she said to me about twenty twenty two, she said,
- 26:19Speaker 2: this is the time now to write about the ancient
- 26:22Speaker 2: Egyptian mysteries. And I started writing her words. And of
- 26:27Speaker 2: course I had been practicing this work and I knew it,
- 26:31Speaker 2: and I was just tapping more into past lives. It
- 26:35Speaker 2: was just the information flowing through me. So I feel
- 26:40Speaker 2: that it's almost like the work that I did with
- 26:46Speaker 2: Isis was coming through that book, and it was I
- 26:53Speaker 2: felt at the time. When the book finished, I said,
- 26:56Speaker 2: this is my lifetime's work. Now, if I go now,
- 26:59Speaker 2: if I die now, I will I will say, yes,
- 27:02Speaker 2: I have done what I came here to do. But
- 27:06Speaker 2: of course I'm still here. But it is such a big,
- 27:09Speaker 2: such a big part of my life and also a
- 27:16Speaker 2: big part of my life purpose this book and anybody
- 27:20Speaker 2: who is a spiritual seeker. It doesn't just have to
- 27:23Speaker 2: do with ancient Egypt. I think these teachings that are there,
- 27:27Speaker 2: the mysteries, are actually universal. They speak to a part
- 27:31Speaker 2: of us that is beyond time and beyond civilization. I
- 27:36Speaker 2: just called this book the Path of the Living Light,
- 27:39Speaker 2: and she says that it finds us this path when
- 27:42Speaker 2: we are ready. And in ancient Egypt it was the
- 27:46Speaker 2: last time that this path was practiced in its entirety
- 27:50Speaker 2: in the ancient temples. Uh. And this is what I
- 27:53Speaker 2: bring forward now.
- 27:55Speaker 1: And what is heca initiation?
- 27:58Speaker 2: Yes, that's that's really interesting and interesting questions. So what happened? Well,
- 28:04Speaker 2: there are so many aspects to this, but I'll start
- 28:06Speaker 2: with isis actually so isis in the Egyptian pantheon, if
- 28:12Speaker 2: you like, she is called the mistress of Heca, and
- 28:16Speaker 2: Heca means the power of creation, and the ancient mystery
- 28:20Speaker 2: started with Isis. It's not just because Isis is the
- 28:24Speaker 2: feminine goddess. It doesn't mean that the mysteries were only
- 28:28Speaker 2: for women. Absolutely not. Both men and women were invited
- 28:32Speaker 2: to the mysteries. All you needed was a heart that
- 28:35Speaker 2: was wise, and the heart that was you know, coming
- 28:39Speaker 2: from that love of service to others. So as you
- 28:44Speaker 2: cross a threshold into the temple, into that place of initiation,
- 28:49Speaker 2: she bestows that power of creation to you so that
- 28:54Speaker 2: you can start evolved and you can start work with
- 28:58Speaker 2: your own spirit and bring into life the wisdom that
- 29:02Speaker 2: you have within you. So what Isis has said is
- 29:06Speaker 2: that I bring you the light of the world so
- 29:09Speaker 2: you can become that light that you are. And that
- 29:13Speaker 2: was the purpose of initiation. So an initiation means that
- 29:17Speaker 2: crossing off the threshold. Before maybe you were a material person,
- 29:22Speaker 2: maybe before you were more concerned about you know, the
- 29:25Speaker 2: physical life and everything else. And at some point there
- 29:28Speaker 2: is a thirst for knowledge and wisdom, and that's when
- 29:32Speaker 2: you cross the threshold and the energy comes and meets you.
- 29:36Speaker 2: That hecka power comes and meets you, opens you up,
- 29:40Speaker 2: opens your chakras, connects you to the divine self. More
- 29:44Speaker 2: solidly and then you can walk a path of awareness.
- 29:48Speaker 2: So that in ancient digit that initiation was done after
- 29:55Speaker 2: two years of being trained as an apprentice. If you,
- 29:59Speaker 2: like you wanted to become part of the priesthood, you
- 30:03Speaker 2: had to then go through an initiation. Then in my
- 30:06Speaker 2: book The Sacred Mysticism of Egypt, that second book, I
- 30:10Speaker 2: describe what was that initiation and how it was done,
- 30:15Speaker 2: and the experience of one of my spirit guides who
- 30:19Speaker 2: was an initiate, and what he went through and all
- 30:23Speaker 2: the steps that he had to take to actually be
- 30:27Speaker 2: accepted in the priesthood. So it's all there in the book.
- 30:33Speaker 2: And there were three paths of initiation, and the first
- 30:37Speaker 2: was the gates of awareness with Isis and Hathor, which
- 30:42Speaker 2: is the divine love. The second one was the power
- 30:46Speaker 2: of creation, so it was the creation from the becoming
- 30:51Speaker 2: the light, the light that comes the energy and creates
- 30:54Speaker 2: the physical world and the spiritual worlds and all the
- 30:58Speaker 2: stages of incarnation and then going back to becoming the infinite.
- 31:03Speaker 2: And then the last one was the path of thought,
- 31:06Speaker 2: the path of wisdom and that self inquiry where you
- 31:10Speaker 2: find your own answers and you you you if you
- 31:14Speaker 2: like perth yourself into the light that you are uh,
- 31:19Speaker 2: and that was that was very beautiful and very difficult path.
- 31:24Speaker 2: And I describe all these paths in the book.
- 31:27Speaker 1: What is the rule of math?
- 31:31Speaker 2: Yes, the rule of Mad is a very vital part
- 31:34Speaker 2: of initiation because the rule basically says, in order for
- 31:40Speaker 2: you to become at the time an initiate or a
- 31:44Speaker 2: priest and priestesses priestess, well, the priest and priestesses they
- 31:49Speaker 2: were called, and the initiates they will call the servants
- 31:52Speaker 2: servants of Mad And Matt has three meanings. Has truth
- 31:58Speaker 2: that you have to be honest with you, yourself, with
- 32:01Speaker 2: the world as much as you can, because sometimes you
- 32:04Speaker 2: think you're honest, but you're not. You discovered during the
- 32:09Speaker 2: self inquiry and spirit spiritual evolution path, you discover a
- 32:16Speaker 2: bigger truth about yourself. So truth is the first part.
- 32:21Speaker 2: Justice is the second part, and that's divine justice as
- 32:27Speaker 2: much we can we are just people with ourselves with others,
- 32:31Speaker 2: respect for all life. And the third one is order,
- 32:37Speaker 2: divine order, and manifesting is part of that divine order.
- 32:42Speaker 2: So if we wish to manifest something, it has to
- 32:45Speaker 2: be part of this universal order that we see in
- 32:49Speaker 2: the sky because everything is done in divine order. If
- 32:54Speaker 2: we are trying to manifest through our ego, then actually
- 32:58Speaker 2: what we're creating long term is chaos. But if we
- 33:02Speaker 2: are manifesting through divine order, that is completely different. It
- 33:07Speaker 2: means that we are now holding the vibration of what
- 33:11Speaker 2: it is that we're calling to us and is coming
- 33:13Speaker 2: from a much higher place. So mud means truth, justice,
- 33:19Speaker 2: and order. And the way they described it the rule
- 33:24Speaker 2: of mad is you try and create all these ways
- 33:28Speaker 2: of honesty, et ceteral justice and order in your life.
- 33:32Speaker 2: You try and live your life that way. Otherwise, when
- 33:36Speaker 2: we don't, when we are corrupted, when we are, you know,
- 33:43Speaker 2: we do things that are against our conscience. Then what
- 33:47Speaker 2: we do is we create heaviness. You know, in other
- 33:50Speaker 2: traditions they call it the weight of karma, and that
- 33:53Speaker 2: weighs us down. And then our heart, they say, your
- 33:57Speaker 2: heart actually observes every thing you do, so your heart
- 34:03Speaker 2: is also an observer of your life. Your personality can
- 34:07Speaker 2: decide to do the wrong thing again and again, but
- 34:10Speaker 2: your heart knows, and you're trying to not listen to
- 34:14Speaker 2: your heart, and you want things a certain way, but
- 34:17Speaker 2: your heart at the end speaks and tells you, you know,
- 34:22Speaker 2: this is what you did here for Tula was not
- 34:24Speaker 2: so hot. And then you kind of try to find
- 34:28Speaker 2: a way to come into peace with your heart and
- 34:32Speaker 2: forgive yourself and say, okay, I'll try better the next day.
- 34:36Speaker 2: And we go through this process. But the heavy heart,
- 34:40Speaker 2: the heavy heart is what stops us moving forward. And
- 34:44Speaker 2: in the initiation process, what they did was they had
- 34:48Speaker 2: a priestess stressed as mad. So she's not just stress.
- 34:52Speaker 2: She merges spiritually. She becomes one with this being of
- 34:57Speaker 2: Mad and she holds the feat and the initiate puts
- 35:02Speaker 2: on the scales a papyrus with ib a drawing of
- 35:07Speaker 2: his heart and his name in hieroglyphs, and the priestess
- 35:12Speaker 2: of Matt puts the feather on the other scale, and
- 35:15Speaker 2: if they balance, she says, yes, you're accepted. If they
- 35:19Speaker 2: don't balance, then see channels what Matt says as the
- 35:23Speaker 2: oracle and gives advice to this person what practice he
- 35:28Speaker 2: needs to do or she needs to do, so that
- 35:31Speaker 2: they can try again another time. So Matt is very
- 35:34Speaker 2: important in ancient Egypt.
- 35:36Speaker 1: Absolutely, your heart weighed against the feather, that's a wonderful analogy.
- 35:42Speaker 1: I love that. Who are the star beings and what
- 35:45Speaker 1: are their purposes for humanity?
- 35:49Speaker 2: Thank you for that question. Actually, a few years ago, uh,
- 35:54Speaker 2: these star beings of light came to me and they
- 35:58Speaker 2: gave me wonderful words of wisdom and wonderful practices, and
- 36:02Speaker 2: they said, could they come and teach people who are
- 36:06Speaker 2: seekers through me? So I created these courses that are
- 36:10Speaker 2: on the website, and they are the people can go
- 36:14Speaker 2: and look at them. Of the star beings, A did
- 36:17Speaker 2: the retreat for called the star beings speak, and they
- 36:21Speaker 2: came through and their purpose is to really help us
- 36:26Speaker 2: to understand how we came to be on this earth.
- 36:30Speaker 2: And they said, you know, you think you're of course
- 36:34Speaker 2: your bodies of the earth, but you come from an
- 36:38Speaker 2: other place in the universe. You all have arrived here
- 36:42Speaker 2: from different places, and that's why it's so hard for
- 36:45Speaker 2: you to actually agree between you because you're all different.
- 36:51Speaker 2: And even in your family there are some people who
- 36:54Speaker 2: are are like different and they think, oh, I'm the
- 36:57Speaker 2: only person in my family who thinks different, or why
- 37:01Speaker 2: are we in this place? And we can't agree because
- 37:04Speaker 2: we come from different places of the universe, from different
- 37:08Speaker 2: vibrations and somehow we kind of have to learn from
- 37:12Speaker 2: each other. Earth is a huge school. It's a very
- 37:16Speaker 2: advanced school. So they call it the Earth School, Earthly Life,
- 37:20Speaker 2: the Earth School. And we are here. It's like Cambridge, Oxford,
- 37:26Speaker 2: or I don't know in America, but just like Harvard.
- 37:30Speaker 2: Maybe it's like a very very advanced school. And it's
- 37:35Speaker 2: not for just the souls who are just starting. Here
- 37:40Speaker 2: we find everything, and here we have to work with
- 37:43Speaker 2: each other. So the start beings are really analyzed earthly life,
- 37:50Speaker 2: where we came from, where we're going, and they basically
- 37:55Speaker 2: invite us and say, you are not alone that we
- 37:58Speaker 2: are looking at the Earth. These are the ones of
- 38:01Speaker 2: the light. We're looking at the Earth. We are sending
- 38:05Speaker 2: very high vibrational light to the Earth, and that is
- 38:09Speaker 2: why everything surfaces up. So we know, if I'm doing
- 38:13Speaker 2: personal work on myself, just myself, you know, whether I'm
- 38:17Speaker 2: doing counseling, whether I'm doing energy work, all my stuff
- 38:21Speaker 2: comes up. Now that happens, that is happening on the
- 38:25Speaker 2: Earth right now, all our stuff comes up and we
- 38:29Speaker 2: can see it, and we can see the ugliness and
- 38:32Speaker 2: we can see the goodness. And we are given the
- 38:35Speaker 2: choice every day every moment, we're given a choice. What
- 38:40Speaker 2: am I going to choose? And it's a choice that
- 38:43Speaker 2: meets us again and again because the ego and the
- 38:48Speaker 2: conditioning and what the ancestors are carrying also are all
- 38:53Speaker 2: coming up as well to be healed. If we think, okay,
- 38:57Speaker 2: I'm on a path of healing, maybe this is a
- 39:00Speaker 2: lifetime that I can really heal. I would like to
- 39:06Speaker 2: share something. Actually, in two thousand and fifteen, I went
- 39:11Speaker 2: for a vision quest in America in the Death Valley,
- 39:15Speaker 2: and we had an assistant in the vision quest who
- 39:20Speaker 2: was a minister. Originally I think he was an evangelical minister.
- 39:24Speaker 2: Maybe wrong, it was a long time ago, but he
- 39:27Speaker 2: was a Christian minister and he had a very rare
- 39:31Speaker 2: illness that it was basically terminal illness. And at that
- 39:37Speaker 2: time he thought, well, I need to actually find more
- 39:40Speaker 2: about God, and I will find more about God through
- 39:43Speaker 2: the emptiness of the desert and through the silence and
- 39:47Speaker 2: through nature. And he became very psychic when he did
- 39:52Speaker 2: all these vision quests. He really felt God speaking to
- 39:55Speaker 2: him and he became very open. At the same time,
- 40:00Speaker 2: came to me and my friend said, you have been Egyptian.
- 40:04Speaker 2: You I can see you with all the Egyptian regalia.
- 40:07Speaker 2: You have been this Egyptian teacher. And he said, this
- 40:12Speaker 2: is a lifetime, you know, where we heal all others,
- 40:16Speaker 2: and it's a very important lifetime and you know it.
- 40:19Speaker 2: And that message really has touched me because I think
- 40:23Speaker 2: when the star beings were telling us, is like, now
- 40:26Speaker 2: is the time. Don't waste this lifetime. There is all
- 40:30Speaker 2: this coming up, but it's not coming up as a
- 40:33Speaker 2: terrible thing. It's coming up for you to find a
- 40:36Speaker 2: better way.
- 40:38Speaker 1: That is a beautiful sharing. Thank you so much for that.
- 40:41Speaker 1: And as someone who's had similar experiences in this lifetime,
- 40:46Speaker 1: I also learned that as healers, whatever lessons we bring,
- 40:50Speaker 1: we also have to learn the lesson of healing ourselves first.
- 40:55Speaker 1: So we must take care of ourselves in all of
- 40:57Speaker 1: these processes.
- 40:59Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely, Victor, Yes, we start with ourselves. And I
- 41:04Speaker 2: think that's so much. You know, the more the more
- 41:07Speaker 2: I practice, the more I practice healing for other people,
- 41:12Speaker 2: and we do earth healing, but I always start with
- 41:15Speaker 2: myself and people that say I want to help so much,
- 41:19Speaker 2: we start with ourselves because if we don't heal the
- 41:23Speaker 2: disconnection within us, then what are we actually, you know,
- 41:28Speaker 2: doing out there absolutely.
- 41:30Speaker 1: My guest Patula A Dreaming. We'll be back with more
- 41:33Speaker 1: after these words on the Own Times Radio network.
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- 42:07Speaker 1: Back on Destination Unlimited my guest this week for Tula
- 42:11Speaker 1: A Dreamy. We're talking about all of her wonderful work
- 42:13Speaker 1: in her books, in addition to the work in the
- 42:17Speaker 1: light that you've been doing and all of the wonderful
- 42:19Speaker 1: things that you bring to our world. I understand that
- 42:22Speaker 1: one of your callings is also to exercise demons. What
- 42:27Speaker 1: really are demons and what are they doing in this world?
- 42:31Speaker 2: Thank you so much, Victor. I you know, I don't
- 42:35Speaker 2: know if this is actually a calling. Is again something
- 42:38Speaker 2: that happened because I found out when I was I'm
- 42:43Speaker 2: doing the samonic work, there are other beings that are
- 42:47Speaker 2: attached to people, and you could say the word demon.
- 42:53Speaker 2: It is so that these beings are of a lower consciousness.
- 42:59Speaker 2: They're very hungry. They try to almost like attached to
- 43:04Speaker 2: people so they can they can create situations that are
- 43:08Speaker 2: difficult for people, and they feed of people. They feed
- 43:12Speaker 2: of the humans energy. And what I think, what I've
- 43:16Speaker 2: seen is that originally they were not part of the
- 43:20Speaker 2: Earth realm, but they were called here by people who
- 43:24Speaker 2: wanted to control others through black magic. So one way
- 43:30Speaker 2: that these demons have come is by human beings invoking
- 43:36Speaker 2: them and using curses, black magic, that kind of thing.
- 43:42Speaker 2: But there are now so many and they're after our
- 43:45Speaker 2: soul power. But these beings, if we look at it
- 43:49Speaker 2: from the compassionate point of view, and that's how I work,
- 43:52Speaker 2: because that brings better results, and because it's in my nature,
- 43:58Speaker 2: is that I see that these beings are lost. They don't.
- 44:01Speaker 2: They've been called to this world. They've been misused by
- 44:05Speaker 2: humans who use them to send curses or other things,
- 44:10Speaker 2: and they are hungry for power because they have to
- 44:14Speaker 2: survive somehow. And the best thing you can do for
- 44:19Speaker 2: these beings is to actually help them go back to
- 44:22Speaker 2: their own realm. And sometimes I see that human beings
- 44:27Speaker 2: who are completely alienated from their essential nature, that is
- 44:32Speaker 2: our humanity, that is the love that we are, that
- 44:35Speaker 2: are doing terrible things with black magic and all of that,
- 44:40Speaker 2: they can be born again into a demonic realm. And
- 44:44Speaker 2: that is such a huge suffering for the soul because
- 44:48Speaker 2: for these beings, for these demons, there is no satisfaction.
- 44:53Speaker 2: It's never enough. It's like a hungry ghost. There is
- 44:56Speaker 2: never enough. So even if you could say they could
- 45:00Speaker 2: find something to feed on or somebody to feed them,
- 45:03Speaker 2: they want more. They want more, they want more power,
- 45:06Speaker 2: power and control. So so to take them back into
- 45:10Speaker 2: that state, to say you are divine too, and you
- 45:15Speaker 2: have a soul, and try and help them to go
- 45:18Speaker 2: back compassionately to the RLM, because no matter who you are,
- 45:22Speaker 2: demon or not, there is a part of that being
- 45:27Speaker 2: that responds to to respect, that responds to unconditional love,
- 45:34Speaker 2: non judgment, and and that can can hear you when
- 45:38Speaker 2: you say I can open a door for you to
- 45:41Speaker 2: go home. And so it's not an easy thing. It's
- 45:46Speaker 2: not an easy thing to do. So people should not
- 45:48Speaker 2: try this at home if they've never done advanced some
- 45:52Speaker 2: money work This is advanced depossession work. And I have
- 45:58Speaker 2: I have seen this in people. I have seen this
- 46:01Speaker 2: and people who are really good people, but they had
- 46:04Speaker 2: maybe something said to them. And I have seen that
- 46:08Speaker 2: when these beings go, there's the light comes back into
- 46:11Speaker 2: the human being. They can cause alcoholism, they can house
- 46:16Speaker 2: drug dependency, they can cause all sorts of addictions, not
- 46:20Speaker 2: that the human being is of course doesn't partake in that,
- 46:24Speaker 2: but they are really they are to keep a person
- 46:28Speaker 2: stuck into a state where they can control the human being.
- 46:33Speaker 2: So that is what I would call their spirit in Greek.
- 46:36Speaker 2: Actually it's an ancient Greek word demon demon, and in
- 46:41Speaker 2: Greece they had a distinction of the good demons with
- 46:45Speaker 2: the good spirits agatho demon and the ones that we
- 46:49Speaker 2: call demons now that are actually non human entities, but
- 46:56Speaker 2: they do not originate from the earth. The are stuck here.
- 47:01Speaker 2: That's what I feel.
- 47:03Speaker 1: I love the thought that by giving them love, you're
- 47:07Speaker 1: basically healing the negativity. That's so special.
- 47:13Speaker 2: I found this is the way that really helps them,
- 47:17Speaker 2: because you know they are in some way. You have
- 47:21Speaker 2: If I have a client who does suffer from something
- 47:25Speaker 2: like that and they find out, oh my goodness, I've
- 47:28Speaker 2: been carrying this for all this time. But they are
- 47:32Speaker 2: my client, but also that that entity is also my client.
- 47:36Speaker 2: I have to help them too. And in traditional shamanism,
- 47:40Speaker 2: if I go back to that, that you know, that's
- 47:44Speaker 2: what comes from my Lineus is a very much a
- 47:46Speaker 2: patriarchical path. So it's all about killing the demon and
- 47:51Speaker 2: getting rid of the demon and exercising the demon. And
- 47:55Speaker 2: and they are the bad thing, the bad entity that
- 47:58Speaker 2: has to die and has to get obliterated. And what
- 48:03Speaker 2: happens with that path is that the person keeps getting
- 48:06Speaker 2: back more and more of that because you help one
- 48:10Speaker 2: and then if you don't heal the person as well,
- 48:12Speaker 2: you don't help them heal through through their own divine connection,
- 48:17Speaker 2: then maybe something else attaches to them. But I find
- 48:22Speaker 2: with a compassionate way, there is almost like a big
- 48:25Speaker 2: release and that power of love that helps the demon
- 48:30Speaker 2: also helps the human being and this has better results.
- 48:34Speaker 2: So this is a work that really speaks to my heart.
- 48:39Speaker 1: Absolutely. Please tell us about your work with past life regression.
- 48:45Speaker 2: Yes, so what happened was at some point, I think
- 48:49Speaker 2: it was about two thousand and nine, I did a
- 48:53Speaker 2: two year course in clinical hypnosis in. It was with
- 48:58Speaker 2: the University of West Lorn and the London College of
- 49:01Speaker 2: Clinical Hypnosis, so it was a very good detailed course
- 49:05Speaker 2: and as part of that course, at the last module
- 49:08Speaker 2: they talked about past life regression, which I was very
- 49:11Speaker 2: interested in, as I said, all these past life memories
- 49:16Speaker 2: from ancient Egypt, and so I felt I wanted to
- 49:21Speaker 2: know more about that. But the course, the course administrator
- 49:26Speaker 2: said no, they we're just teaching you this so that
- 49:31Speaker 2: what happens is sometimes a person under hypnosis, whether you're
- 49:34Speaker 2: dealing with a phobia or a difficult pattern that they
- 49:38Speaker 2: want to overcome, they can go into a past life
- 49:42Speaker 2: without you intending it. It just happens sometimes, so they
- 49:46Speaker 2: have to teach it. But I wanted more, and then
- 49:50Speaker 2: I started. After I graduated, I started working in hypnotherapy
- 49:56Speaker 2: and I went to a center and they said, oh,
- 49:59Speaker 2: we're looking or somebody who can do past life work,
- 50:02Speaker 2: and I started working there with them, and I realized
- 50:06Speaker 2: something from a Samanic perspective, that if you just go
- 50:11Speaker 2: and see a past life and see maybe what happened,
- 50:16Speaker 2: that's not enough. That is not therapy, and sometimes people
- 50:21Speaker 2: can become really traumatized if they had difficult death in
- 50:24Speaker 2: a past life, and they don't resolve it. They just think, Okay,
- 50:29Speaker 2: I had the trauma from the past life as well
- 50:31Speaker 2: as the trauma from this life, so I'm now doubly
- 50:35Speaker 2: traumatized and it's difficult. So I realized what happens in
- 50:41Speaker 2: a past life if we do not pass to the light,
- 50:45Speaker 2: if we do not bring an ending to what happened
- 50:47Speaker 2: to us, part of us, part of our soul, stays
- 50:51Speaker 2: stuck in that time. So in the Samanic perspective we
- 50:55Speaker 2: talk about sorry trivial that when we go through trauma,
- 50:59Speaker 2: part of dissociates and become stuck, and it's almost as
- 51:04Speaker 2: if we are running empty and that part can leave
- 51:07Speaker 2: the body. So in the past life, I was finding
- 51:11Speaker 2: that people's soul parts were in that life and we
- 51:16Speaker 2: had to bring them back, and they had to go
- 51:18Speaker 2: through the portal of death and feel the light and
- 51:21Speaker 2: love of which we feel when we die naturally and
- 51:26Speaker 2: we die well, and bring that essence back. And then
- 51:30Speaker 2: I realized from my body's training, because I studied undroome
- 51:34Speaker 2: bond for many years and the Semanic training too, that
- 51:39Speaker 2: actually what happens is what is that law of karma.
- 51:44Speaker 2: What is the karma that creates these past life lessons
- 51:48Speaker 2: and what do we bring back here? So I did
- 51:51Speaker 2: huge work on myself and I work with the lords
- 51:54Speaker 2: of karma in the past life to say what life
- 51:57Speaker 2: can we access, what happens in the in between lives?
- 52:01Speaker 2: What are the lessons of the soul, and what can
- 52:04Speaker 2: I learn from that life. So myself, I had beautiful healings,
- 52:11Speaker 2: even physical healings. Physical physical condition left me after a
- 52:18Speaker 2: past life regression. I had psciatica and I couldn't sit down.
- 52:23Speaker 2: It was so hard, it was so painful. And one
- 52:27Speaker 2: time I went into a past life and I found
- 52:30Speaker 2: myself in a battlefield with two bullets in my bottom.
- 52:35Speaker 2: That's where I was shot and that's where the sciatica
- 52:38Speaker 2: pain was. And I never had that pain after that,
- 52:43Speaker 2: no operation. No, that was the past life work that
- 52:47Speaker 2: did that, recovering that soul part that was stuck in
- 52:51Speaker 2: the battlefield. Because the soul is eternal and the soul
- 52:55Speaker 2: wants to heal. And so sometimes we can develop things,
- 52:59Speaker 2: whether physical or emotional or mental situations that we do
- 53:04Speaker 2: not know why they are there, but they may originate
- 53:07Speaker 2: in a past life. And if we do the world
- 53:10Speaker 2: the work with the Karma and the lords of Karma,
- 53:13Speaker 2: who are incredibly compassionate beings. They have no judgment. It's
- 53:18Speaker 2: not like you know all this judgments. You've done this,
- 53:22Speaker 2: and what it's about understanding and learning from our experiences.
- 53:27Speaker 2: And when that happens, that understanding comes, that forgiveness comes forgiveness,
- 53:32Speaker 2: or forgiveness of others, or receiving forgiveness from people that
- 53:37Speaker 2: we may have harmed in a past life. That piece,
- 53:41Speaker 2: that sole part coming back healed, that can create wonderful transformation.
- 53:46Speaker 2: And of course we can have past lives in other
- 53:50Speaker 2: worlds too. So when I teach the Past life work, first,
- 53:54Speaker 2: the first part is about this lifetime and sorry, this life,
- 53:58Speaker 2: this earthly world. But in part two we go off
- 54:03Speaker 2: planet and then the world opens up and we think, oh, yes,
- 54:08Speaker 2: it is true. We are multi dimensional beings.
- 54:12Speaker 1: The wisdom of my guest for Tula a Dreamy. Her
- 54:15Speaker 1: school is called the Isis School of Holistic Health, and
- 54:18Speaker 1: she's the author of Sacred Mysticism of Egypt, The Ancient
- 54:21Speaker 1: Path of Hakka Initiation, and the Golden Book of Wisdom,
- 54:24Speaker 1: Ancient Spirituality and Shamanism for modern times. Foretula one more time.
- 54:29Speaker 1: Please share with our listeners where they can find out
- 54:31Speaker 1: more about you and your wonderful work.
- 54:34Speaker 2: So thank you so much, Victor. So you can go
- 54:37Speaker 2: to the website, the ICI School of Coolistic Health dot com.
- 54:41Speaker 2: You can join the newsletter and you will find so much,
- 54:45Speaker 2: so many articles there and wonderful information. You can join
- 54:50Speaker 2: our online programs if you wish to study with me.
- 54:54Speaker 2: You can join Energy Transmissions to really feel the beautiful
- 54:58Speaker 2: energy that comes from this teachings of light. And you
- 55:03Speaker 2: can also join us in person in Glasgow in some
- 55:07Speaker 2: of our pilgrimages that we go to different sacred sites
- 55:11Speaker 2: and do work there under the guidance of the helping spirits.
- 55:15Speaker 2: So we do so much, We do so much, so
- 55:18Speaker 2: many different ways of working, and usually people work with
- 55:23Speaker 2: us for a while because it's a wonderful path and
- 55:29Speaker 2: I would love to share it with you.
- 55:31Speaker 1: Buttula, Thank you so much for joining us and sharing
- 55:34Speaker 1: all of this wonderful wisdom and these messages of help
- 55:37Speaker 1: for our world.
- 55:39Speaker 2: Thank you very much. They are Victor and everybody who
- 55:43Speaker 2: is listening. It was a huge pleasure to be with
- 55:46Speaker 2: you and to share this work with you, and just
- 55:49Speaker 2: infinite blessings to us all. No matter what we think
- 55:53Speaker 2: about ourselves and our life, we are actually doing a
- 55:57Speaker 2: good job because we're here during this time of transition,
- 56:01Speaker 2: which is an amazing time to be on the earth.
- 56:04Speaker 2: And may we all find our deep connection with our heart.
- 56:08Speaker 1: And thank you for joining us on Destination Unlimited. I'm
- 56:12Speaker 1: Victor the Voice Ferman. Have a wonderful week.