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Ian Furness 9/14 H3: Mike Sando, talk & texts and crosstalk with Softy! · The Ian Furness Show

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  Speaker 1: It's time for our Monday visit with Mike Sando of
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  Speaker 1: or visit HuntServices.com. Now with Mike Sando, here's Ian Furness.
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  Speaker 2: Mike Sando joins us Mondays at 2 o'clock. We'll tour
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  Speaker 2: around the National Football League from Mike Sando from The Athletic.
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  Speaker 3: Hello, sir.
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  Speaker 2: How are you?
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  Speaker 4: Good.
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  Speaker 3: How are you?
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  Speaker 5: Good.
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  Speaker 2: What a fantastic Sunday. I gotta be honest with you.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, there's, um, I don't know. We've talked last
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  Speaker 2: year for folks who missed it. We went through how
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  Speaker 2: Mike puts together the pick six and it's a, it
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  Speaker 2: is a process, like a long process. It's not just
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  Speaker 2: done an hour or so after all the games are
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  Speaker 2: done on Sunday. It's a, it's a day's process. I
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  Speaker 2: don't know how you did it this week, my friend,
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  Speaker 2: because there were no shortage of storylines in week one.
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  Speaker 6: I know this one was so, uh, such an amazing week.
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  Speaker 6: There's things I wanted to get in there that I didn't,
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  Speaker 6: you know? So, uh, I thought it was great. It
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  Speaker 6: was fun.
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  Speaker 5: There were surprises, right?
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  Speaker 6: Because the whole offseason, you've got all these storylines that
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  Speaker 6: never get tested. And then all of a sudden, they
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  Speaker 6: get tested in a game, and the ball is shaped
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  Speaker 6: this funny way, and things happen.
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  Speaker 5: So I loved it. I thought it was a fun day.
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  Speaker 2: What a contrast between a couple teams. We'll start here
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  Speaker 2: because the headline was Chargers disaster. But the contrast, the
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  Speaker 2: Chicago Bears putting up almost 60 points against Carolina. Meanwhile,
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  Speaker 2: the Chargers of Los Angeles with a new play caller
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  Speaker 2: and a former head coach who people think highly of
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  Speaker 2: as a play caller got kind of handled by the
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  Speaker 2: Cardinals of Arizona. Mike, how do we make sense of
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  Speaker 2: what just happened? Let's start first in Chicago. Is Carolina's
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  Speaker 2: defense that bad? Chicago's offense under Ben Johnson in the
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  Speaker 2: second year with Caleb Williams that good?
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  Speaker 6: I think the offense, I don't think it's that good,
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  Speaker 6: 59 points, but I think the offense is really good.
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  Speaker 6: And We saw, I think we're seeing Caleb Williams, you know,
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  Speaker 6: be able to take another step here. There's going to
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  Speaker 6: always be some inconsistency with him because of his improvisational
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  Speaker 6: and running around. But, man, looks pretty good. Looks pretty good.
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  Speaker 6: I think he made a big jump last year as well.
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  Speaker 6: So I'm leaning a little bit more towards believing that
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  Speaker 6: that offense is going to be good from week to week,
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  Speaker 6: that Ben Johnson has, you know, had enough time and
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  Speaker 6: has enough talent and has a good enough quarterback to, Look,
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  Speaker 6: I don't think he's going to average 38 a game
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  Speaker 6: to break the record like he talked about, but he
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  Speaker 6: may be closer to it than we think.
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  Speaker 2: Chargers get beat by the Cardinals, and that was an
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  Speaker 2: interesting game for us out here. Obviously, the Cardinals are
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  Speaker 2: in the NFC West, so Seahawks fans pay attention to that.
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  Speaker 2: A Cardinals team that I think many of us felt like, well,
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  Speaker 2: they'll get through the season. Maybe they'll get the No.
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  Speaker 3: 1 pick.
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  Speaker 2: Maybe they'll find a quarterback in that No. 1 pick
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  Speaker 2: since they no longer have Kyler Murray. Jacoby Brissett seems
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  Speaker 2: to be kind of a stopgap measure and a placeholder
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  Speaker 2: along the way. And then they get a 23-17 win,
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  Speaker 2: a game in which the Chargers had just 268 yards
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  Speaker 2: of offense. They were 2-8 on third down, 0-3 on
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  Speaker 2: fourth down. So if you just add, I mean, basically
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  Speaker 2: 2-11 on the downs that matter. Herbert, 17-27 with McDaniel
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  Speaker 2: calling plays. What's going on in the Chargers' land?
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, just super disappointing for them i think they i
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  Speaker 6: think their roster depth is not good i think they're
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  Speaker 6: pretty conservative with their roster sort of like this build
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  Speaker 6: for the long-term thing and uh you know get out
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  Speaker 6: from under certain contracts and so i just i don't
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  Speaker 6: know i feel like they're not uh i think the
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  Speaker 6: urgency to build that team is maybe not where it
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  Speaker 6: would be if you know i was trying to do
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  Speaker 6: it with that quarterback that's that's number one i think
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  Speaker 6: their depth is an issue The middle of their offensive line,
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  Speaker 6: now they lose Ladd McConkie. The stats with Ladd McConkie
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  Speaker 6: on the field and off the field were polar opposites.
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  Speaker 6: He played almost an equal number of snaps, about 25
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  Speaker 6: on the field, I believe maybe 26 off. Totally night
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  Speaker 6: and day difference. So I think it'll take, maybe it's
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  Speaker 6: going to take them a little bit of time with
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  Speaker 6: the new offense. But to me, that quarterback, that coordinator,
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  Speaker 6: you'd expect better results from that.
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  Speaker 2: Mike, you had a line in here in that story.
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  Speaker 2: I'm going to read this for our listeners because I
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  Speaker 2: think it's worth examining a little bit more. A defensive
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  Speaker 2: coach who's faced Justin Herbert multiple times compares and contrasts
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  Speaker 2: the quarterback to Josh Allen. Both are a tick slower
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  Speaker 2: than most top quarterbacks at seeing the game and processing it,
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  Speaker 2: this coach said. That gives defenses a chance to counter
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  Speaker 2: the superior athletic and throwing ability. Now, Allen's been in
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  Speaker 2: the same offense for a while, so he's able to
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  Speaker 2: maybe get through it a little bit easier. Herbert's going through,
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  Speaker 2: I think it's four coordinators in five years or maybe
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  Speaker 2: five and five. But it's funny because we talked about
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  Speaker 2: that earlier. We had Hugh Millen on his weekly visit
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  Speaker 2: in the 12 o'clock hour, and he was talking about
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  Speaker 2: Drew Locke and said, look, passes the eye test, everything's there,
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  Speaker 2: and there's two different quarterbacks that are backups around the league.
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  Speaker 2: There's guys that physically don't have the tools, you know,
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  Speaker 2: like Case Keenum or Colt McCoy, what have you, but
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  Speaker 2: they can get through some things. And there's guys that
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  Speaker 2: have the tools and it never works, right? Like, you know,
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  Speaker 2: maybe it's Zach Wilson and things like that. Herbert and
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  Speaker 2: Locke to me are somewhat similar. Herbert obviously bought more success.
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  Speaker 2: He's played and started longer and stuff like that, but
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  Speaker 2: I thought that was an interesting comment that he's not
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  Speaker 2: processing things. Have you heard that from other people when
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  Speaker 2: you're doing your tier rankings and so forth?
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  Speaker 3: I have.
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  Speaker 5: It's not that he's terrible at it, but he's not
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  Speaker 5: elite at it.
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  Speaker 6: And I think most of those guys that get into
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  Speaker 6: that tier one, for the most part, are elite at that.
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  Speaker 6: That's a strength for them. You just think of all
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  Speaker 6: the great quarterbacks over the years. They didn't have to
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  Speaker 6: be super athletic and run around. If you can, that's great.
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  Speaker 6: But that's not really what makes you be able to
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  Speaker 6: play fast and stay a step ahead of the defense.
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  Speaker 6: So I think the point being made was that It's
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  Speaker 6: not a strength for Herbert. Doesn't mean he can't be
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  Speaker 6: a good quarterback, but he might benefit for sure from
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  Speaker 6: having more time in a system. Now, this system in
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  Speaker 6: particular with Mike McDaniel is going to be more intricate
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  Speaker 6: with the motion and movement and a lot of things
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  Speaker 6: going on in the run game. So it's different, probably
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  Speaker 6: a harder offense than he's been in before. But if
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  Speaker 6: he can master it, I think, you know, there is
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  Speaker 6: more potential for him to be Good. The problem is, like,
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  Speaker 6: if they does have success, Mike McDaniel is going to
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  Speaker 6: get a head coaching job. So they'll be doing the
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  Speaker 6: same thing because Jim Harbaugh, offensive coach, but not really.
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  Speaker 6: I mean, he's more of just a football coach. He's
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  Speaker 6: not going to call the offense or put in some
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  Speaker 6: great schemes. So they may be a little bit stuck.
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  Speaker 2: Interesting weekend for John Harbaugh, his former team. has just
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  Speaker 2: a blowout win against what we thought would be a
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  Speaker 2: good Indianapolis team, and then he goes over and beats
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  Speaker 2: on the Dallas Cowboys. More on the Cowboys in a second,
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  Speaker 2: but let's start first with Harbaugh's former team, Baltimore. That
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  Speaker 2: was an impressive and new offensive coordinator, obviously, for Lamar
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  Speaker 2: Jackson and company. That was an impressive, impressive win.
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  Speaker 5: Really was.
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  Speaker 6: We've seen Baltimore dominate like that before. It's probably been
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  Speaker 6: a couple years, but man, when they get going, it
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  Speaker 6: can really be overwhelming. I feel like with Lamar Jackson,
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  Speaker 6: we talked about Herbert, obviously very talented, but maybe there's
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  Speaker 6: a little bit of a processing thing. I think with
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  Speaker 6: Lamar Jackson, there's an emotional energy thing that's a part
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  Speaker 6: of his sort of fuel that separates when he's great
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  Speaker 6: versus when he's not as great. I think one of
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  Speaker 6: the ways it was put to me before the season
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  Speaker 6: talking to somebody when I pull executives to rank the
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  Speaker 6: teams in each conference was, this guy was predicting great
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  Speaker 6: things for Baltimore this year because he thought with the
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  Speaker 6: new coordinator, Lamar would be kind of excited and challenged
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  Speaker 6: in a way he hadn't been before.
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  Speaker 5: It's interesting.
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  Speaker 6: I believe his first game with Greg Roman as his coordinator,
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  Speaker 6: they had 600 and some yards. So, you know, are
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  Speaker 6: we going to get the best of Lamar this year
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  Speaker 6: is kind of my, my question because last year he
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  Speaker 6: seemed to not really be in it. I don't know
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  Speaker 6: if the Harbaugh thing had run its course or offensively
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  Speaker 6: to run his course, but.
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  Speaker 5: He was obviously banged up and that's what he would say.
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  Speaker 5: And maybe that was it.
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  Speaker 6: But I think he's just one of those guys that
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  Speaker 6: fluctuates a little bit with how much fun he's having
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  Speaker 6: and it affects how he's playing. And I think healthy,
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  Speaker 6: new offense, excited. We got that Lamar and it probably
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  Speaker 6: feeds their whole offense.
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  Speaker 2: We'll go back to, I want to ask you just
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  Speaker 2: a general question because for folks on Mike doing his
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  Speaker 2: quarterback tiers, a special team story the other day and
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  Speaker 2: other things, you're talking to guys around the league, executives, coaches,
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  Speaker 2: and others. uh off the record and but but great
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  Speaker 2: insight from them when you when you've talked to guys
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  Speaker 2: over the years i always think week one we have
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  Speaker 2: to be really really careful with any kind of generalizations
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  Speaker 2: or overreactions and things like that and everyone in the
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  Speaker 2: nfl jokes about overreaction monday and that's all 18 or
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  Speaker 2: 17 weeks of the season right but but what have
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  Speaker 2: you what has mike sandal learned over the years about
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  Speaker 2: week one how much you can and cannot learn from
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  Speaker 2: a week one games.
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  Speaker 6: Well, you're so hungry to have something because you've gone
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  Speaker 6: so long with just storylines of, you know, that's kind
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  Speaker 6: of in the media and our conversations. And so you do,
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  Speaker 6: I think you do get something out of it. I mean,
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  Speaker 6: to me, I'm looking a little bit more bigger picture,
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  Speaker 6: like one of the interesting things that, you know, I
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  Speaker 6: wasn't the only one to point it out, but, you know,
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  Speaker 6: the way offenses look different, right? There's the under center
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  Speaker 6: rate is going way up. Scoring was up. Some of
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  Speaker 6: those types of things, you know, I think are valuable
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  Speaker 6: to just see the way the trends are going. Now,
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  Speaker 6: as far as any one matchup, I think you have
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  Speaker 6: to look and see what's the context of where this
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  Speaker 6: team's been. So take a team like Green Bay. Green
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  Speaker 6: Bay lost a big lead in the fourth quarter. You know,
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  Speaker 6: I think they were ahead big and lost, and it
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  Speaker 6: was a historic loss in terms of how much they
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  Speaker 6: were ahead. by with how much time left and then
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  Speaker 6: they lost by 17 points. It almost like never happened before. Well,
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  Speaker 6: they spent their whole off season talking about, you know,
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  Speaker 6: needing to finish. I think that's a significant outcome. You know,
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  Speaker 6: I think that's when you, when you preach something the
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  Speaker 6: whole time and then it's exposed as being a major
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  Speaker 6: problem right away against a division rival, I think there's
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  Speaker 6: significance in that. The fact that the Raiders won their
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  Speaker 6: first game, I don't know. I don't know what that means.
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  Speaker 6: I think we need to see them over the course
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  Speaker 6: of a month and see if Kirk Cousins can hold
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  Speaker 6: up and all of those types of things before I'm
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  Speaker 6: willing to say much about them.
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  Speaker 2: One of the things that I found really interesting, and
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  Speaker 2: just because I did a lot on them before they
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  Speaker 2: played the preseason game here for some radio stuff we
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  Speaker 2: were doing, is Dallas. And last year, one of the
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  Speaker 2: best offenses in football, but one of the worst, if
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  Speaker 2: not the worst, defense in football. And they went out,
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  Speaker 2: they basically, they turfed their entire defensive staff, bring in
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  Speaker 2: kind of the new hotshot defensive coordinator, Christian Parker, and
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  Speaker 2: restructure everything, add to the defensive line. invest in two
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  Speaker 2: first-round draft picks on the defense in the draft this
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  Speaker 2: year in Downs and Lawrence, and they looked as bad,
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  Speaker 2: if not worse, than they did last year and confused
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  Speaker 2: at times. Mike, I mean, I kind of feel like
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  Speaker 2: there's some red flags going on there with the Dallas Cowboys.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, absolutely.
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  Speaker 6: With Brian Schottenheimer, the coach, kind of was exasperated after
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  Speaker 6: the game. Talking about young guys not knowing what to do.
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  Speaker 6: So I would give him some time, I think, defensively,
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  Speaker 6: the intricacies and They haven't been good on defense. They
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  Speaker 6: don't have this defensive culture. It's going to take some
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  Speaker 6: time probably to build that up. So I would think
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  Speaker 6: that they will improve still on defense. That was a
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  Speaker 6: jarring game, though. And I think sometimes the offseason excitement
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  Speaker 6: over teams works against them out of the gates. I
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  Speaker 6: think the Rams had such a big target on their back.
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  Speaker 6: Not that they were necessarily talking about the Super Bowl,
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  Speaker 6: but Miles Garrett, Aaron Donald, Everyone just gets tired of it,
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  Speaker 6: and the 49ers are like, hey, we're here too, right?
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  Speaker 6: Arizona is going to hear about Justin Herbert, and he's
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  Speaker 6: going to be the GOAT, the greatest quarterback, according to Harbaugh. Well,
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  Speaker 6: they've got to play the games. And I think a
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  Speaker 6: team like the Cowboys in the offseason did talk about
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  Speaker 6: Super Bowl. Hey, we can't be afraid to talk about
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  Speaker 6: Super Bowl. And so you've got John Harbaugh looking at
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  Speaker 6: that going, I've been.
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  Speaker 5: To a Super Bowl. These guys, I didn't see them there.
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  Speaker 6: And he gets his team ready and emotionally ready. And
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  Speaker 6: the gaps between these teams talent-wise probably isn't what it
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  Speaker 6: was kind of back in the day. I think there's
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  Speaker 6: definitely more parity in the last 20, 30 years. There's
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  Speaker 6: not these super teams for the most part. And so
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  Speaker 6: I think the any given Sunday thing lives even more.
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  Speaker 6: And you get punched in the face sometimes in this
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  Speaker 6: league when you think you're coming in and buying how good.
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  Speaker 3: You're going to be.
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  Speaker 5: Talking Super Bowl, that stuff can bite you.
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  Speaker 2: What do you think is going through the Rams' minds
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  Speaker 2: right now, off the record, behind the scenes? And, you know,
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  Speaker 2: whether it be the travel schedule, the Miles Garrett injury,
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  Speaker 2: you know, Donald didn't go down there. I wonder what
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  Speaker 2: he's thinking. Like, wait a second, I thought I'm playing
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  Speaker 2: with Miles Garrett. That was going to be kind of
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  Speaker 2: nice and easy. Like, he's going to double-team him all day,
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  Speaker 2: and now he's not going to be out there for
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  Speaker 2: the next four weeks. And all the questions surrounding the
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  Speaker 2: LA Rams and what happened down under in that first game.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, so I think the Rams will definitely right the ship.
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  Speaker 6: I do think they have to worry a little bit
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  Speaker 6: about coming out of that other game. Now there's another
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  Speaker 6: readjustment too. And look, their first three games are primetime games.
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  Speaker 6: Four of their first five are primetime games.
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  Speaker 5: So they got the 49ers' best punch. 49ers were ready.
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  Speaker 6: Now they're going to get the Giants, who I would
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  Speaker 6: think the Rams are going to beat the Giants. But look,
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  Speaker 6: they're at Denver, they're at Philly, you know, their home Buffalo.
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  Speaker 5: Tough schedule. The Rams could stumble a bit out of
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  Speaker 5: the gates.
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  Speaker 2: Two more things from Mike Sander from The Athletic. One,
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  Speaker 2: he's not a starter, so I'm not sure, you know,
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  Speaker 2: if you've had any conversations when you're doing your tiers,
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  Speaker 2: your quarterback tier story with anybody around the league. but
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  Speaker 2: what do you hear about Drew Locke and what people
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  Speaker 2: think of him and perceive him? A lot of guys
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  Speaker 2: will say, hey, we have the best backup quarterback in
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  Speaker 2: the league. I've always kind of thought that Schneider was
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  Speaker 2: interesting outside of the Trevon Boykin backup role the one year,
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  Speaker 2: which didn't work out well because that's when Russ hurt
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  Speaker 2: himself and they had to play him no matter what.
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  Speaker 2: Whether it be Tavares Jackson, Matt Flynn, and of course
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  Speaker 2: for many, for Geno Smith, what have you, it always
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  Speaker 2: feels like they've had a good backup quarterback in Seattle,
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  Speaker 2: good insurance policy behind who the starter is. Now that
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  Speaker 2: gets tested. What have you heard about Drew Locke from people?
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  Speaker 5: That's a great one.
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  Speaker 6: I wish I would have known this one was coming
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  Speaker 6: because it's been a while since he's been in quarterback tiers.
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  Speaker 6: And I can't remember specifically enough, other than to say,
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  Speaker 6: I don't think people were super excited about him. I
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  Speaker 6: think he has kind of disproved the expectations around him,
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  Speaker 6: probably got a maybe a little bit of a bad
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  Speaker 6: rap coming out of Denver, which wasn't the best situation.
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  Speaker 6: But my thought on him is probably that like, like anybody,
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  Speaker 6: I mean, you mature over time. You, you are in
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  Speaker 6: a different role now than you were when people were
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  Speaker 6: hoping you'd be the starter and all of that. And
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  Speaker 6: he seems to have done a pretty good job. I mean,
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  Speaker 6: obviously the Philly game, you know, he's, he's had, when
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  Speaker 6: he led him back to win with a deep touchdown pass,
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  Speaker 6: I believe the JSN and the right corner of that
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  Speaker 6: end zone, if I'm remembering it right, you know, he's
• 15:12
  Speaker 6: had a couple of skins on the wall here. So
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  Speaker 6: to me, it's a totally different deal when you're in
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  Speaker 6: the backup mode. I think then you're talking about being
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  Speaker 6: complimentary football, get us through a few games, give us
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  Speaker 6: a chance to win. Don't, don't wreck the game. So
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  Speaker 6: I don't, I don't think that people are talking about
• 15:30
  Speaker 6: him as a starter and, and Hey, you can leapfrog
• 15:33
  Speaker 6: out of this to be a starter, but you know,
• 15:35
  Speaker 6: let's just see, there's been conflicting timelines, right? On standard
• 15:38
  Speaker 6: Arnold of how long he's going to be out. This
• 15:40
  Speaker 6: could be a great opportunity for him with a good
• 15:42
  Speaker 6: team to change the narrative a little bit.
• 15:45
  Speaker 2: 5.20 tonight, kickoff. Chiefs and the Broncos wrap up the
• 15:49
  Speaker 2: week one schedule in the NFL. We'll have that game
• 15:51
  Speaker 2: for you right here on 93.3 KJR FM, your home
• 15:52
  Speaker 2: for the NFL. on Sunday night, Monday night, and Thursday
• 15:56
  Speaker 2: night football. Mike Sandel, thoughts on what you expect to see,
• 15:59
  Speaker 2: the return of Pat Mahomes, miracle recovery from the ACL
• 16:03
  Speaker 2: and much more, and Bo Nix coming off an injury too.
• 16:06
  Speaker 2: And people in Denver will tell me that if Bo
• 16:08
  Speaker 2: Nix was healthy, they would have beat the Patriots and
• 16:10
  Speaker 2: the Seahawks in the Super Bowl. We'll never know. Give
• 16:13
  Speaker 2: us some thoughts on tonight.
• 16:14
  Speaker 6: So I think my mind initially goes to, hey, Denver's
• 16:18
  Speaker 6: the more complete team and And this and that. But
• 16:21
  Speaker 6: I think this is one of those where the offseason narratives,
• 16:24
  Speaker 6: you know, could affect the game. I think Pat Mahomes
• 16:26
  Speaker 6: and those guys probably are tired about hearing their demise.
• 16:29
  Speaker 6: You know, when I polled executives before the year, people
• 16:31
  Speaker 6: had them sixth in the AFC. It's unheard of from
• 16:34
  Speaker 6: where they've been in the past. So I'm a little
• 16:36
  Speaker 6: wary of the home team in Kansas City. I still
• 16:39
  Speaker 6: think Denver's probably better. You know, maybe if they played
• 16:43
  Speaker 6: three times, Denver might win a couple of them right now.
• 16:45
  Speaker 5: But I'm wary.
• 16:46
  Speaker 6: I'm a little wary of those guys in Kansas City.
• 16:49
  Speaker 6: And let's just see that they're bad before we say
• 16:51
  Speaker 6: that they're bad. So let's just see that they're not
• 16:53
  Speaker 6: a top contender before we say it.
• 16:56
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think what's the old reports of their demise?
• 16:59
  Speaker 2: Mark Twain greatly exaggerated, right? It's still Andy Reid, last
• 17:02
  Speaker 2: I checked, and Pat Mahomes. And they added a running back,
• 17:05
  Speaker 2: which they haven't had in a long time.
• 17:07
  Speaker 5: That's why I can't wait.
• 17:08
  Speaker 2: Yeah, right?
• 17:09
  Speaker 5: I can't wait to see the run game part of it.
• 17:10
  Speaker 7: Yes.
• 17:11
  Speaker 6: Just because they haven't really been even formationally aligned to
• 17:15
  Speaker 6: try to want to run the ball and I guess
• 17:18
  Speaker 6: I'll believe that when I see it, too, that Andy
• 17:20
  Speaker 6: Reid wants to run the ball.
• 17:21
  Speaker 2: Well, I mean, listen, Pacheco was always hurt. And part
• 17:24
  Speaker 2: of it, not to hurt him, I mean, that's just
• 17:26
  Speaker 2: the way he ran. He ran hard in college at Rutgers.
• 17:28
  Speaker 2: He ran hard, period. And then, you know, Kareem Hunt,
• 17:31
  Speaker 2: his best days were long gone by the time he
• 17:32
  Speaker 2: came back for his second stint there. And they got
• 17:34
  Speaker 2: a legitimate guy. Seahawks fans, you'll remember him. He won
• 17:37
  Speaker 2: an MVP in the Super Bowl, so. I think it's
• 17:39
  Speaker 2: a fun game tonight. Can't wait. It should be a
• 17:40
  Speaker 2: lot of fun. The Pick 6 column is up there.
• 17:42
  Speaker 2: There's more on. If you want to read more about
• 17:45
  Speaker 2: Sean McVay not being happy and the Rams suffering, go
• 17:47
  Speaker 2: check out the Pick 6 column that Mike's got up
• 17:49
  Speaker 2: there at The Athletic on the NFL tab. It's great
• 17:51
  Speaker 2: stuff every Monday. And we will talk to you in
• 17:53
  Speaker 2: a week's time, my friend. Thank you. Thank you. That
• 17:55
  Speaker 2: is Mike Sando joining us here on the Beacon. It's
• 17:57
  Speaker 2: just good stuff all the way. His Pick 6 column
• 18:00
  Speaker 2: is my favorite thing. Monday morning, get up. That's a
• 18:03
  Speaker 2: cup and a half of coffee, usually. Nice long read,
• 18:05
  Speaker 2: but a really good in-depth read, too. Good stuff from Mike.
• 18:07
  Speaker 2: At theathletictheathletic.com.
• 18:09
  Speaker 3: All right.
• 18:09
  Speaker 2: Your text, 49451. Talkbacks maybe as well. We'll see if
• 18:13
  Speaker 2: we've got any of those today. And then time to...
• 18:16
  Speaker 2: The rally starts now. The rally starts now with Factor Fiction.
• 18:21
  Speaker 4: Here we go.
• 18:22
  Speaker 2: God, death taxes and me sucking at factor fiction. It
• 18:25
  Speaker 2: also looks a lot like my betting slip last week
• 18:27
  Speaker 2: in the Snoqualmie Casino on week one. So we'll see.
• 18:30
  Speaker 2: And listen, if all you guys are going to text
• 18:32
  Speaker 2: fiction just out of general principle, you've got to wait
• 18:34
  Speaker 2: until the window opens at 235 to win a $ 1, 000
• 18:35
  Speaker 2: weekly prize. $ 10, 000 grand prize coming up.
• 18:43
  Speaker 8: Hey, Dan Wilson here. You know, you know, tough weekend,
• 18:46
  Speaker 8: tough breaks. The guys competed. It's another tough one. You know,
• 18:49
  Speaker 8: you know, I do want to welcome Ashley Ryan to
• 18:52
  Speaker 8: the afternoon broadcast.
• 18:53
  Speaker 2: You know, you know, I know she's going to fight hard.
• 18:54
  Speaker 2: She'll compete, continue to fight hard.
• 18:56
  Speaker 8: You know, you know, you know, you know, you know.
• 18:58
  Speaker 8: But back to the Mariners, I will continue to pitch Bazzardo.
• 19:00
  Speaker 8: You know, you know, in spirit of the NFL, his
• 19:03
  Speaker 8: ERA is about as high as the Chicago Bears offense.
• 19:05
  Speaker 2: But I'm going to keep pitching him.
• 19:07
  Speaker 8: DePoto is going to keep giving me the analytics and
• 19:09
  Speaker 8: the iPad.
• 19:09
  Speaker 2: And we're going to keep striving forward.
• 19:11
  Speaker 5: You know, you know.
• 19:12
  Speaker 2: You know, you know, tough one.
• 19:13
  Speaker 3: You know, you know. You know, you know.
• 19:15
  Speaker 5: Poor Dan.
• 19:16
  Speaker 2: All right, let's get some text 49451 before we get
• 19:20
  Speaker 2: to factor fiction here in about five minutes time. Time
• 19:23
  Speaker 2: to bounce back in that regard. 425 is from our
• 19:26
  Speaker 2: buddy Nick Allen. Big listener. Let's go, Ian and Ashley. Yeah,
• 19:29
  Speaker 2: let's go. Let's go. Michael says good afternoon, Ashley. There
• 19:33
  Speaker 2: you go. A lot of people welcoming Ashley here to
• 19:35
  Speaker 2: this thing as well. Let's see.
• 19:39
  Speaker 3: Oh, I don't know.
• 19:40
  Speaker 2: What's the rock thing? Ashley, welcome to Crenson. You're still
• 19:43
  Speaker 2: in the rock thing.
• 19:43
  Speaker 4: I don't know. I didn't know what that was.
• 19:45
  Speaker 2: I will tell you this. I'll tell you this right now.
• 19:47
  Speaker 3: Okay. Ready.
• 19:50
  Speaker 2: Fridays, you did bring something with you.
• 19:53
  Speaker 4: I did do that.
• 19:53
  Speaker 2: In the divorce settlement. I did do that. We've got
• 19:56
  Speaker 2: booze news. We'll blow off a crosstalk with Softie on Fridays,
• 20:01
  Speaker 2: and we'll do booze news.
• 20:02
  Speaker 9: Yeah, we got a new fancy sponsor. We're going to
• 20:04
  Speaker 9: drink some Tito's Handmade Vodka every Friday. Okay.
• 20:07
  Speaker 2: Sure.
• 20:07
  Speaker 4: Yeah. Sorry to bring the tough stuff to you.
• 20:09
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 20:10
  Speaker 2: Well, it's, I mean, yeah, it was that or a
• 20:12
  Speaker 2: green jacket. I'd take the booze news all day.
• 20:15
  Speaker 4: I would too.
• 20:15
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 20:15
  Speaker 4: That's what they offered me. They're like, here, you can
• 20:17
  Speaker 4: have this jacket. That's way too big for you.
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 20:20
  Speaker 3: No, no.
• 20:21
  Speaker 2: Or we'll do that.
• 20:22
  Speaker 4: Well, those news that you created and brought.
• 20:23
  Speaker 2: Four to five. How about some Gino love?
• 20:25
  Speaker 3: No, no. Simple answer.
• 20:27
  Speaker 2: No. Uh, can you talk about DK's performance? How lucky
• 20:33
  Speaker 2: we are? He's gone.
• 20:34
  Speaker 4: He looked like he was having a rough day.
• 20:36
  Speaker 9: Yeah.
• 20:37
  Speaker 2: Yeah, he did. By the way, how's the extra sleep
• 20:40
  Speaker 2: treating you, Ash? Did you wake up at 4.30 or
• 20:43
  Speaker 2: 5.30 in a panic?
• 20:45
  Speaker 9: I did wake up at 4.50 and I was like, oh,
• 20:47
  Speaker 9: look at that. Just internal clock is like, oh, you
• 20:50
  Speaker 9: should be awake right now. And then I went back
• 20:51
  Speaker 9: to sleep for another hour and 45 minutes.
• 20:54
  Speaker 2: That's brilliant.
• 20:55
  Speaker 4: Yeah, it was pretty great.
• 20:56
  Speaker 2: 425, this is probably for you on Mondays with us. Ashley,
• 21:01
  Speaker 2: stay positive. Negativity is both boring and depressing. That's Terry
• 21:03
  Speaker 2: from Redmond.
• 21:04
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I was like, wait, I'm not being... Oh, I
• 21:07
  Speaker 4: get it. He's talking about the mollywop guys and you. Yeah,
• 21:10
  Speaker 4: got it.
• 21:10
  Speaker 2: If people listen to Mollywop Mondays, they will know that
• 21:13
  Speaker 2: if things are good, they're fine.
• 21:15
  Speaker 4: Yes.
• 21:15
  Speaker 2: If they're not, they're not going to sell you a
• 21:18
  Speaker 2: charity cookbook or a fireworks display.
• 21:19
  Speaker 4: And that's understandable.
• 21:20
  Speaker 3: I get it.
• 21:21
  Speaker 2: That's not their job.
• 21:22
  Speaker 9: I just and I will say I'm not like blindly
• 21:25
  Speaker 9: optimistic when it comes to the Mariners. I just I
• 21:29
  Speaker 9: am not going to give up hope that they can
• 21:30
  Speaker 9: somehow piece things together because this year has been so
• 21:33
  Speaker 9: oddly terrible. I feel like maybe there's some random weird
• 21:37
  Speaker 9: way they could figure it out. It would be weird,
• 21:40
  Speaker 9: but I'm not giving up till they're out of it.
• 21:42
  Speaker 5: I like it.
• 21:43
  Speaker 2: I like it. Let's see. Love Molly Whopper's question. M's
• 21:48
  Speaker 2: on paper still loaded position-wise for 27. Where do they
• 21:50
  Speaker 2: improve or is a total culture change needed? I think
• 21:53
  Speaker 2: the culture change is needed. The problem is, and a
• 21:57
  Speaker 2: lot of people are texting this in, there's a lot
• 21:58
  Speaker 2: of very similar texts about rooting for him to lose
• 22:00
  Speaker 2: because I want some change. Other people are saying I'm
• 22:02
  Speaker 2: rooting for him to lose because I want change, but
• 22:04
  Speaker 2: I know there won't be change, all those things. I
• 22:06
  Speaker 2: don't know how you can run it back if they
• 22:07
  Speaker 2: don't get in the postseason.
• 22:08
  Speaker 8: No.
• 22:09
  Speaker 2: I just don't.
• 22:10
  Speaker 9: And I don't think they're going to keep it the same,
• 22:12
  Speaker 9: even if they do sneak into the postseason. It's not
• 22:14
  Speaker 9: like Jerry and Justin are sitting there like, this is
• 22:17
  Speaker 9: going exactly how we planned.
• 22:19
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 22:19
  Speaker 2: It's perfectly in sync with what we expected to happen.
• 22:22
  Speaker 4: That's just not happening.
• 22:23
  Speaker 9: No.
• 22:23
  Speaker 2: 206 has simply cranked out that it was a tough
• 22:26
  Speaker 2: one t-shirts yet.
• 22:27
  Speaker 4: I'm surprised that they haven't.
• 22:29
  Speaker 2: They're pretty positive. Jake and those guys over there are
• 22:31
  Speaker 2: pretty positive. Jake and Jamie and everybody there, Addie, they're
• 22:33
  Speaker 2: pretty positive folks.
• 22:35
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 22:35
  Speaker 9: Yeah.
• 22:35
  Speaker 2: You know, they're pretty positive.
• 22:37
  Speaker 4: You got to at least mock the tough one. Come on.
• 22:40
  Speaker 2: I'll check with them. I'll drop a text on the
• 22:42
  Speaker 2: way home tonight and see if... Wait, the Mariners are
• 22:44
  Speaker 2: still playing baseball since the 206? Okay, funny guy. Funny guy.
• 22:47
  Speaker 2: Funny guy.
• 22:48
  Speaker 3: Yes, they are.
• 22:49
  Speaker 4: They're playing tonight.
• 22:50
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 22:51
  Speaker 2: Taylor Ward, Rob Restner, Brennan Donovan, Jerry DiPoto Specials. Jerry
• 22:55
  Speaker 2: needs to be fired, all caps. Well, okay, there's those three.
• 22:58
  Speaker 2: And then there's the draft picks of the pitching staff
• 23:01
  Speaker 2: and Arroyo and Montez and others.
• 23:03
  Speaker 5: So.
• 23:04
  Speaker 2: It's those fringe guys that just get him.
• 23:07
  Speaker 9: Yeah, I mean, because there's also Randy, and look at
• 23:09
  Speaker 9: how good he's been this year. And there's Naylor, and
• 23:11
  Speaker 9: look what he did last year when he got here.
• 23:12
  Speaker 9: And there was Polanco, and what did he do last year?
• 23:14
  Speaker 4: And Geno. I mean, there's been good ones.
• 23:17
  Speaker 2: Ian, did you warn Ashley about Thursdays yet?
• 23:19
  Speaker 3: LOL.
• 23:20
  Speaker 4: I saw that one, and I was confused. What happens
• 23:22
  Speaker 4: on Thursday?
• 23:22
  Speaker 2: It's the unofficial start of the weekend.
• 23:24
  Speaker 4: Oh, yeah.
• 23:25
  Speaker 2: It's Brandon Funston with Fantasy Football.
• 23:27
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 23:28
  Speaker 2: And it's this group of... The first seven callers are
• 23:32
  Speaker 2: usually the same seven people, and they're just an eclectic,
• 23:36
  Speaker 2: borderline crazy group of individuals. I'm here for that.
• 23:39
  Speaker 8: Yeah.
• 23:39
  Speaker 4: I like it. Embrace the chaos.
• 23:40
  Speaker 2: Mike and Edmonds, Ricky and Tacoma, Rob and Burian. Oh,
• 23:45
  Speaker 2: my team sucks. I'm so bad. We have two guys
• 23:48
  Speaker 2: from Salton, Derek and Steven from Salton. I mean, it's
• 23:50
  Speaker 2: the same group.
• 23:51
  Speaker 4: I like it.
• 23:52
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Kyle in the claw, down in Eden Claw. Yeah,
• 23:55
  Speaker 2: usually Greg and Graham, a lot of alliteration here.
• 23:58
  Speaker 4: I like that.
• 23:58
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's all there. All right, let's get to it.
• 24:00
  Speaker 2: Fact or fiction?
• 24:02
  Speaker 4: We're set to go.
• 24:02
  Speaker 2: Glad you're with us.
• 24:03
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• 24:08
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• 24:09
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• 24:11
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• 24:15
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• 24:17
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• 24:19
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• 24:25
  Speaker 2: All right. Quick recap of week one. Nobody, uh, you
• 24:33
  Speaker 2: had a good week.
• 24:34
  Speaker 4: I mean, I did. I won one, lost one.
• 24:38
  Speaker 2: I got fact twice for you last week.
• 24:40
  Speaker 4: I don't think so.
• 24:41
  Speaker 9: Because I had over under on.
• 24:45
  Speaker 4: That Ohio State game. Oh, it was 48 and a half.
• 24:48
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah.
• 24:50
  Speaker 9: I thought it was 44 and a half in my
• 24:52
  Speaker 9: head over the weekend.
• 24:53
  Speaker 4: I did get it right.
• 24:54
  Speaker 3: Yes.
• 24:55
  Speaker 2: Ashley Ryan is 2-0.
• 24:56
  Speaker 4: I was stressed out for no reason.
• 24:58
  Speaker 2: Yeah, no, you were 2-0.
• 25:00
  Speaker 4: That's awesome. That's right.
• 25:01
  Speaker 9: It was Chuck's game the next day was 44-1. The
• 25:04
  Speaker 9: Seahawks game, his pick. And so in my head, I.
• 25:07
  Speaker 4: Put them both.
• 25:08
  Speaker 2: Well, just so you guys know, Ashley will pick on
• 25:10
  Speaker 2: Tuesdays and Thursdays. She's 2-0.
• 25:12
  Speaker 4: You can listen then.
• 25:13
  Speaker 2: Ian, Seattle minus 3-1 versus New England. That was a fiction.
• 25:18
  Speaker 2: It was a three-point win. Ian, Philadelphia minus 4-1 versus Washington.
• 25:22
  Speaker 2: That was a two-point game.
• 25:25
  Speaker 3: That was.
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 25:26
  Speaker 2: Fiction as well. Man, you know what I was hoping for?
• 25:29
  Speaker 2: For two reasons. One was a bet slip I had
• 25:31
  Speaker 2: and also that.
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 25:33
  Speaker 2: Just get to overtime and win it in overtime by seven.
• 25:35
  Speaker 4: There you go. That would have been great.
• 25:36
  Speaker 2: That would have been good. San Diego State plus 13
• 25:38
  Speaker 2: versus UCLA looked really good for a while. That was
• 25:40
  Speaker 2: also fiction. Okay. So time to bounce back.
• 25:43
  Speaker 3: Here we go.
• 25:43
  Speaker 4: You've got this today.
• 25:44
  Speaker 2: 49451 if you agree with my pick.
• 25:46
  Speaker 3: Fact.
• 25:46
  Speaker 2: 49451 if you disagree. It's fiction. The Chicago Bears. scored
• 25:53
  Speaker 2: not one, not two, not three, four or five. They
• 25:56
  Speaker 2: scored eight touchdowns. Ashley, eight touchdowns the Chicago Bears scored
• 26:03
  Speaker 2: against the Carolina Panthers, who, by the way, added Jalen
• 26:06
  Speaker 2: Phillips and Devin Lloyd, a couple guys in the top
• 26:08
  Speaker 2: ten salaries in the NFL on defense, and they still
• 26:11
  Speaker 2: gave up that amount. The Bears are at home again
• 26:14
  Speaker 2: this week. They're taking on the Minnesota Vikings and Carson Wentz.
• 26:18
  Speaker 9: Ooh.
• 26:20
  Speaker 2: Yes, they were just good enough, was Minnesota, to get
• 26:24
  Speaker 2: a win over a team that's now lost eight straight
• 26:25
  Speaker 2: games dating back to last year. Bears minus three at
• 26:31
  Speaker 2: home against the Vikings. Ben Johnson going to roll up
• 26:35
  Speaker 2: the score. Fact, 4-9-4-5-1. If you disagree, fiction, 4-9-4-5-1. Bears
• 26:41
  Speaker 2: at home, minus three, fact, four, nine, four, five, one.
• 26:44
  Speaker 2: I'm trying to say with conviction, me, much like Cal
• 26:48
  Speaker 2: Raleigh at the start of the year, no confidence whatsoever.
• 26:51
  Speaker 3: None.
• 26:51
  Speaker 2: Zero zilch.
• 26:54
  Speaker 4: The eagle believes in you.
• 26:55
  Speaker 3: The eagle.
• 26:56
  Speaker 2: Thank you, eagle. Bears minus three at home against the
• 26:59
  Speaker 2: Vikings and a backup quarterback who isn't as good as
• 27:02
  Speaker 2: Drew Locke.
• 27:02
  Speaker 3: Fact, 49451.
• 27:03
  Speaker 2: If you disagree, fiction, 49451. You're asking yourself, why am
• 27:07
  Speaker 2: I going to text in fiction? Well, because I disagree
• 27:09
  Speaker 2: with Ian because he's not very good. Sure, that's one reason.
• 27:11
  Speaker 2: The other one is so you can win a $ 1, 000
• 27:13
  Speaker 2: weekly prize or a $ 10, 000 grand prize. That's right, $ 10, 000
• 27:17
  Speaker 2: grand prize, $ 1, 000 weekly prize. The $ 10, 000, whoever has the
• 27:22
  Speaker 2: most correct picks at the end of the year, and
• 27:24
  Speaker 2: this is only week two. If you're just kind of
• 27:26
  Speaker 2: getting going, you're fine. You're okay. But you don't want
• 27:28
  Speaker 2: to wait much longer. Just text every day. There's a
• 27:32
  Speaker 2: pick at 735, 1135. Ours is at 235 every day. Softie, Fane,
• 27:37
  Speaker 2: and Jackson, 335. Fact, 49451. If you disagree, fiction, 49451. Again,
• 27:43
  Speaker 2: Bears at home. Could have scored 60. I'm sure Ben
• 27:48
  Speaker 2: Johnson thought about going for two. Didn't. But that offense...
• 27:54
  Speaker 2: Caleb didn't even use his great tight end in Colston Loveland.
• 27:57
  Speaker 5: Yeah, that's true.
• 27:59
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and the Vikings, Brian Flores is going to blitz
• 28:01
  Speaker 2: them all day long, and that means he's going to
• 28:03
  Speaker 2: be running all over the place and making plays. Maybe
• 28:05
  Speaker 2: the Roma-Dunze experience will get going at some point, too.
• 28:10
  Speaker 8: Maybe.
• 28:11
  Speaker 9: Maybe.
• 28:11
  Speaker 2: I doubt it. And I went down that road in
• 28:14
  Speaker 2: fantasy this year.
• 28:14
  Speaker 3: Me, too.
• 28:15
  Speaker 2: I went down the Roma-Dunze. My son said, don't do it.
• 28:18
  Speaker 3: I love him.
• 28:19
  Speaker 2: He goes, don't do the Roma-Dunze experience. And we both
• 28:22
  Speaker 2: ended up with the Roma-Dunze experience. When he gets going,
• 28:26
  Speaker 2: look out.
• 28:26
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 28:27
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think the Bears, three points, not enough. And
• 28:31
  Speaker 2: we're getting it early in the week, so I have
• 28:32
  Speaker 2: a feeling that's going to change as the week goes on.
• 28:34
  Speaker 2: So Bears minus three at home against the Vikings. Fact
• 28:36
  Speaker 2: if you agree, 4-9-4-5-1. Fiction if you disagree, 4-9-4-5-1. Again,
• 28:42
  Speaker 2: you're trying to win a $ 1, 000 weekly prize. You can
• 28:45
  Speaker 2: only win if you play along. Every time you get
• 28:48
  Speaker 2: a pick right... Four times a day, 20 times a week.
• 28:51
  Speaker 2: Every time you get one right, you're entered to win $ 1, 000.
• 28:53
  Speaker 2: And then there's a chance that former producer on this
• 28:56
  Speaker 2: show who just bailed on us, left us, Anderson Hurst,
• 29:00
  Speaker 2: will call you on a Monday and go, hey, congratulations,
• 29:02
  Speaker 2: you won $ 1, 000.
• 29:03
  Speaker 4: He might. You have to enter to get that call, though.
• 29:07
  Speaker 2: By the way, do you like Chuck's pick? He took
• 29:09
  Speaker 2: Denver plus two at Kansas City tonight.
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 29:12
  Speaker 2: I kind of do, too.
• 29:13
  Speaker 4: Yeah, that's a good one.
• 29:13
  Speaker 5: I kind of do, too.
• 29:14
  Speaker 2: Jessamyn took the Niners minus ten and a half against Miami.
• 29:19
  Speaker 4: Miami's real bad.
• 29:20
  Speaker 2: And I just, I don't know, man. That would make
• 29:23
  Speaker 2: me feel dirty. That would make me feel dirty.
• 29:25
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 29:26
  Speaker 2: Can't do it.
• 29:27
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I hear you there.
• 29:28
  Speaker 2: Can't do it. Can't do it. But that's our pick is, again,
• 29:31
  Speaker 2: Chicago minus three versus Minnesota.
• 29:33
  Speaker 4: Fact.
• 29:33
  Speaker 2: 49451. Text in right now. Fact or fiction. Brought to
• 29:36
  Speaker 2: you by the Lucky Eagle Casino, Hotel, and Resort. Every
• 29:38
  Speaker 2: day feels lucky. the way you go. We'll check in
• 29:40
  Speaker 2: with Softee next. Ashley, this is a segment we should
• 29:50
  Speaker 2: have warned you about, actually. This is a segment we
• 29:53
  Speaker 2: should have warned you about.
• 29:54
  Speaker 3: I already spoke to Ashley about it.
• 29:56
  Speaker 2: What did you tell her?
• 29:57
  Speaker 3: We had a conversation off the air.
• 29:58
  Speaker 5: Okay.
• 29:59
  Speaker 4: He just said, I'm at Emerald Clifton Senior.
• 30:00
  Speaker 7: This is the segment that, no, Ashley, we can be
• 30:03
  Speaker 7: honest about our conversation we had.
• 30:05
  Speaker 3: It's fine.
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 30:06
  Speaker 3: Ian's a big boy. He can handle it.
• 30:08
  Speaker 2: Can't wait to hear this. I'm really excited.
• 30:09
  Speaker 7: Washington State Sportscaster, two-time Sportscaster of the Year, Washington and Utah.
• 30:14
  Speaker 2: Thank you.
• 30:14
  Speaker 3: He's a big boy. He can handle criticism.
• 30:16
  Speaker 8: Yeah.
• 30:17
  Speaker 7: I told Ashley that this is the segment that you
• 30:22
  Speaker 7: constantly mail in every single day.
• 30:24
  Speaker 2: Mm-hmm.
• 30:24
  Speaker 3: I expect nothing out of you whatsoever.
• 30:26
  Speaker 4: That's not surprising.
• 30:28
  Speaker 2: Okay, wait, that's unfair because you make it sound like
• 30:31
  Speaker 2: I don't mail in other segments.
• 30:32
  Speaker 3: That is true. I'm sorry.
• 30:34
  Speaker 7: This and the 1 o'clock segment on Thursday. Possibly 1245
• 30:40
  Speaker 7: on Tuesday.
• 30:41
  Speaker 3: Yeah. If that's been better as of late.
• 30:45
  Speaker 2: Which are the ones you mail in, just out of curiosity?
• 30:47
  Speaker 2: I've got to make sure I listen to those.
• 30:49
  Speaker 7: Let's talk about the ones I don't mail in.
• 30:50
  Speaker 3: That'll be a shorter conversation. Okay. Are you kidding me?
• 30:54
  Speaker 7: I mean, I got it from Gas Man, the Mail
• 30:56
  Speaker 7: It In Friday segment with Mike. He'd be drinking God
• 30:59
  Speaker 7: knows what by 5.30, 6 p.m.
• 31:02
  Speaker 2: Actually, along those lines, I've got good news for you.
• 31:05
  Speaker 2: You'll be really happy to hear this.
• 31:07
  Speaker 3: What do you got?
• 31:08
  Speaker 2: We will not be doing Crosstalk on Fridays anymore.
• 31:10
  Speaker 3: Ooh, I love it. That's more time on the golf course.
• 31:12
  Speaker 2: Yeah, there you go.
• 31:13
  Speaker 3: Beautiful.
• 31:13
  Speaker 2: Because the one thing Ashley got in the divorce settlement
• 31:17
  Speaker 2: with the morning show is booze news.
• 31:19
  Speaker 1: Great.
• 31:19
  Speaker 2: Looking forward to it. You can join us for Booze
• 31:22
  Speaker 2: News if you like.
• 31:22
  Speaker 3: I sure can.
• 31:23
  Speaker 7: No, I'll be boozing myself. That's one more Tito's soda
• 31:26
  Speaker 7: before I go.
• 31:27
  Speaker 2: And, Ashley, who might be the sponsor?
• 31:28
  Speaker 4: Tito's Handmade Vodka.
• 31:29
  Speaker 2: How about that, huh? How about that? So how about that?
• 31:33
  Speaker 3: Well, we could do that every day if you'd like.
• 31:35
  Speaker 3: I'm all for that.
• 31:36
  Speaker 2: I'm not sure if we could do Booze News every day.
• 31:39
  Speaker 3: I mean— We'll do something else. Actually, let me think.
• 31:40
  Speaker 3: You could do Booze News on Friday. Yeah, yeah. You
• 31:42
  Speaker 3: could do Cruise News on Thursday.
• 31:44
  Speaker 9: Mm-hmm.
• 31:45
  Speaker 3: You could just do news news, like actual news on Wednesday. Nah,
• 31:50
  Speaker 3: that's no fun. What else can we do?
• 31:51
  Speaker 2: Hey, you mentioned cruise news. Are you a cruiser? Have
• 31:54
  Speaker 2: you cruised?
• 31:55
  Speaker 3: I have been on one cruise in my life, and
• 31:57
  Speaker 3: I do not think I will ever do it again.
• 31:58
  Speaker 2: Ashley, are you a cruiser?
• 32:00
  Speaker 4: I've done it once.
• 32:01
  Speaker 2: You're not in?
• 32:02
  Speaker 4: Didn't love it, but I do want to do the
• 32:04
  Speaker 4: one to Alaska.
• 32:05
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 32:06
  Speaker 7: That I would do. I think I would do like
• 32:07
  Speaker 7: a European river cruise type thing.
• 32:09
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that'd be fun. Ian, I'm old now, man.
• 32:11
  Speaker 7: The idea of being on a carnival cruise line with
• 32:14
  Speaker 7: 20,000 knuckleheads parting their asses off.
• 32:15
  Speaker 2: I'm with you.
• 32:16
  Speaker 3: That does nothing for me.
• 32:17
  Speaker 7: Are you thinking of one of those? That does nothing
• 32:19
  Speaker 7: for me. People running down the hallway, banging on your door.
• 32:22
  Speaker 2: Or are you doing the same thing to somebody else?
• 32:24
  Speaker 3: No, I'm not doing that.
• 32:26
  Speaker 2: I was thinking, like, when you say the European River ones,
• 32:28
  Speaker 2: like those little flat boats you see sometimes on the commercials.
• 32:32
  Speaker 2: And the average age is like 75. That's awesome.
• 32:34
  Speaker 3: That's perfect for me.
• 32:35
  Speaker 2: I was thinking about that just so I can go
• 32:37
  Speaker 2: feel young. I'll be one of the younger people there.
• 32:40
  Speaker 4: And kick everyone's butt at shuffleboard.
• 32:42
  Speaker 3: I think they filmed Cocoon on that boat, by the way.
• 32:44
  Speaker 3: Wilford Brimley.
• 32:47
  Speaker 2: All right. What are your 15 takeaways from the first
• 32:49
  Speaker 2: NFL weekend?
• 32:52
  Speaker 7: Uh, there were too many overs for my liking.
• 32:54
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that was, that was an odd thing.
• 32:56
  Speaker 7: 15 leg parlay like we never do, but I was
• 32:59
  Speaker 7: hoping to at least get to like Sunday afternoon.
• 33:01
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 33:02
  Speaker 3: Right. Have that thing.
• 33:03
  Speaker 7: Dream a little bit. Dream the impossible dream.
• 33:05
  Speaker 3: Wow.
• 33:06
  Speaker 7: We got through Wednesday, we got through Thursday and then
• 33:08
  Speaker 7: Sunday morning came and the whole thing went to hell.
• 33:11
  Speaker 7: So Bears, Carolina, Dolphins, Raiders, yeah, there were way too many.
• 33:15
  Speaker 2: Because isn't it supposed to be like the under, bet
• 33:17
  Speaker 2: the under week one? That's what I thought.
• 33:18
  Speaker 7: I still think the unders won out overall over the overs.
• 33:24
  Speaker 7: But when you've got a 15-leg parlay for $ 20 and
• 33:27
  Speaker 7: a quarter million dollars at.
• 33:28
  Speaker 3: The Everett Queen.
• 33:29
  Speaker 2: And when was it done?
• 33:31
  Speaker 3: Sunday morning.
• 33:32
  Speaker 4: Okay.
• 33:32
  Speaker 3: Yeah, before the 1 o'clock games.
• 33:34
  Speaker 2: Oh, God.
• 33:34
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 33:35
  Speaker 2: Well, at least you're 1-0 or 1-1 in fact or fiction.
• 33:40
  Speaker 3: I am 1-1.
• 33:41
  Speaker 2: Is that better than 0-3?
• 33:43
  Speaker 3: Yes, it is. Wait, let me check. Yes, it is. Oh, yeah,
• 33:47
  Speaker 3: you got screwed with the Hawks on Wednesday.
• 33:50
  Speaker 2: The hook got me there.
• 33:51
  Speaker 3: Three and a half.
• 33:51
  Speaker 7: How about Oregon getting their freaking ass kicked by Oklahoma State?
• 33:55
  Speaker 2: That's a fiction you'll gladly take.
• 33:57
  Speaker 3: 100%.
• 33:58
  Speaker 7: By the way, if you don't think that they got
• 34:00
  Speaker 7: their ass kicked, don't look at the final score.
• 34:02
  Speaker 3: Did you see the box score?
• 34:04
  Speaker 2: I watched the game.
• 34:05
  Speaker 7: They gave up 554 yards of offense. 25 first downs
• 34:10
  Speaker 7: to 12. 237 yards rushing. They got destroyed by Oklahoma State.
• 34:16
  Speaker 2: A team that hadn't won in like two years.
• 34:19
  Speaker 3: They lost to Tulsa last week.
• 34:21
  Speaker 2: Oregon beat them by like 60 last season. Drew Mestemaker
• 34:27
  Speaker 2: put himself in the conversation for the Heisman in that game.
• 34:30
  Speaker 7: Well, they had the delay. I know that, you know,
• 34:32
  Speaker 7: because of the lightning and thunder. So maybe that messed
• 34:35
  Speaker 7: around with Oregon a little bit.
• 34:36
  Speaker 3: I don't know. But that was terrible by Oregon. Absolutely terrible.
• 34:40
  Speaker 2: All I'd heard all offseason from those who allegedly knew
• 34:44
  Speaker 2: is that Oregon's defensive line one of the best in
• 34:47
  Speaker 2: the country if not the best right and they're around
• 34:50
  Speaker 2: and their offensive line they've got quote the best center
• 34:53
  Speaker 2: in college football who was awful like right like had
• 34:56
  Speaker 2: more penalties than blocks in that game like they just
• 34:59
  Speaker 2: it's one thing to get upset you got dominated yeah
• 35:02
  Speaker 2: like you got pushed around yeah yeah i.
• 35:06
  Speaker 7: Think i think dan landing is gonna have to go
• 35:08
  Speaker 7: back and do a little more sweating uh to make
• 35:10
  Speaker 7: up for that one I mean, my God, I'm not
• 35:12
  Speaker 7: sure what kind of drug he was on after that game.
• 35:15
  Speaker 3: But holy cow, whatever it was, take more.
• 35:16
  Speaker 2: Oh, my God.
• 35:18
  Speaker 3: No, it was not a good day for the Big
• 35:20
  Speaker 3: Ten on Saturday.
• 35:21
  Speaker 7: I mean, Washington getting kind of shoved around, let's face it,
• 35:24
  Speaker 7: by Utah State Saturday. Ohio State blows a 20-point lead
• 35:28
  Speaker 7: against Texas in Austin. Oregon gets hammered by Oklahoma State.
• 35:34
  Speaker 7: USC didn't even look that good against Louisiana from the Coliseum,
• 35:38
  Speaker 7: to be honest with you.
• 35:39
  Speaker 3: So, I don't know. Cougs looked good, though, didn't they? Oh, no,
• 35:43
  Speaker 3: they didn't look good either.
• 35:44
  Speaker 2: I'm going to tell you right now, it is bad.
• 35:47
  Speaker 7: It's funny how all three teams in Washington State, Wazoo, UW,
• 35:52
  Speaker 7: and the Hawks, are kind of having some of the
• 35:55
  Speaker 7: same problems. Seahawks have some excuses because they're missing their
• 35:58
  Speaker 7: starting quarterback. But the offenses for all these teams, it's
• 36:04
  Speaker 7: only been one game for the Hawks, obviously. We'll see
• 36:05
  Speaker 7: what happens Sunday in Arizona. But, my God, I mean,
• 36:08
  Speaker 7: Washington's offense is horrific right now. Why?
• 36:11
  Speaker 1: Why?
• 36:11
  Speaker 3: Terrible.
• 36:12
  Speaker 2: Like, why do you think that?
• 36:13
  Speaker 7: Offensive line's not dominating. They don't have a playmaker at
• 36:16
  Speaker 7: wide receiver, and they have no running backs.
• 36:18
  Speaker 2: See, the one thing that we share in terms of
• 36:21
  Speaker 2: lack of playmakers, and our only guy as a playmaker
• 36:23
  Speaker 2: was Freeman. He's out for the year. They just next
• 36:24
  Speaker 2: got a torn ACL. Our quarterback's not good. Your quarterback
• 36:27
  Speaker 2: makes plays.
• 36:28
  Speaker 8: I mean.
• 36:29
  Speaker 3: Right?
• 36:30
  Speaker 7: Our quarterback running around improvising might be the best offense
• 36:32
  Speaker 7: we've got, to be honest with you. And now your
• 36:34
  Speaker 7: number three guy is now your number one guy. Your
• 36:36
  Speaker 7: number four guy is now your number two guy. That
• 36:38
  Speaker 7: means your number four guy is one injury away from
• 36:40
  Speaker 7: being your number one guy.
• 36:41
  Speaker 3: Does that make sense? At running back.
• 36:43
  Speaker 2: It feels like Jim Harbaugh talking about a Thursday night game.
• 36:45
  Speaker 3: Well, that's what it is.
• 36:46
  Speaker 2: Tuesday's a Wednesday.
• 36:47
  Speaker 7: Trey Cooley, who's been in college football for six years,
• 36:51
  Speaker 7: I said to Greg Lewis in the pregame show Saturday,
• 36:52
  Speaker 7: I said, Greg, Trey Cooley was the number nine running
• 36:55
  Speaker 7: back in the country coming out of high school. He said,
• 36:58
  Speaker 7: what country? I mean, he's not very good. Brian Bonner
• 37:02
  Speaker 7: is a freshman. Ansu Sano from Gresham is the number
• 37:06
  Speaker 7: three guy. He's a freshman. He's a bowling ball, 6'2, 40.
• 37:09
  Speaker 7: But there's no threat of running back.
• 37:12
  Speaker 5: None.
• 37:12
  Speaker 1: None.
• 37:13
  Speaker 8: At all.
• 37:13
  Speaker 3: No.
• 37:14
  Speaker 7: So if they can't run the ball in the Big Ten, man,
• 37:16
  Speaker 7: they're going to be cooked. Absolutely cooked.
• 37:19
  Speaker 2: Did we have a game announcement for a time with
• 37:20
  Speaker 2: Minnesota yet?
• 37:21
  Speaker 3: Yeah, you already know what time it is.
• 37:23
  Speaker 2: What time is it?
• 37:23
  Speaker 3: 8 o'clock at night.
• 37:24
  Speaker 2: Oh, okay.
• 37:25
  Speaker 3: Which is fine by me.
• 37:26
  Speaker 2: Oh, it is?
• 37:26
  Speaker 3: Okay. I'll be on the course at 9 a.m. playing 18.
• 37:30
  Speaker 3: Before I go on the air at noon. Or four.
• 37:32
  Speaker 7: Sorry.
• 37:32
  Speaker 3: It's even better.
• 37:33
  Speaker 4: It's even better.
• 37:34
  Speaker 7: I don't mind that at all. I know a lot
• 37:36
  Speaker 7: of people hate it. Look, I'm in the extreme minority.
• 37:39
  Speaker 7: I love the Friday night games and I love the
• 37:41
  Speaker 7: Saturday night games.
• 37:41
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I do. I like Saturday night games.
• 37:43
  Speaker 7: Anything that opens up the weekend for me or opens
• 37:45
  Speaker 7: up a Saturday morning, Saturday afternoon, I'm a fan of.
• 37:49
  Speaker 3: I like it, and that's all that matters, is what
• 37:50
  Speaker 3: I like.
• 37:51
  Speaker 2: As long as Softie's happy, we're all in a good place.
• 37:54
  Speaker 2: All right, what do you got coming up today, buddy?
• 37:55
  Speaker 2: What's going on?
• 37:56
  Speaker 7: Hugh Millen's going to be here for a couple hours,
• 37:58
  Speaker 7: filming for Dick, who's out today. You know, it's a
• 38:01
  Speaker 7: day that ends in Y, so Dick's not here.
• 38:02
  Speaker 3: Of course.
• 38:03
  Speaker 7: And then we've got Chiefs Broncos coming up tonight at 5.
• 38:06
  Speaker 7: We'll do our Factor Fiction pick at 335. A little
• 38:09
  Speaker 7: fun with audio, 345, our Bellevue Rare Coins golden moment
• 38:13
  Speaker 7: from the weekend. We'll be at 445 and then football
• 38:17
  Speaker 7: with Kevin Harlan and Kurt Warner.
• 38:18
  Speaker 3: At 5 o'clock.
• 38:19
  Speaker 2: All righty then.
• 38:20
  Speaker 5: All righty then.
• 38:21
  Speaker 2: All right.
• 38:22
  Speaker 3: Day one with Ashley.
• 38:23
  Speaker 2: And booze news on Friday.
• 38:24
  Speaker 3: That's right.
• 38:24
  Speaker 2: We'll miss you. We'll miss you.
• 38:26
  Speaker 3: Day one with Ashley. Why don't you text me off
• 38:27
  Speaker 3: the air and tell me how she did.
• 38:28
  Speaker 2: Well, just check your phone. It's already been texted.
• 38:30
  Speaker 6: All right.
• 38:31
  Speaker 5: I've already seen it.
• 38:32
  Speaker 3: All right.
• 38:33
  Speaker 4: Wow, that bad.
• 38:35
  Speaker 6: For the mild-mannered and marginally objectionable Ian Furness, this is
• 38:40
  Speaker 6: Paddle Day saying so long, everyone.