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55KRC Friday Show - Tech Friday, Brad Wenstrup, Sarah Heringer · Brian Thomas

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Speaker 1: point thirty every Friday you'll hear Dave Hatter Tech Friday
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Speaker 1: today's edition. What happened earlier this week with that Amazon
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Speaker 1: cloud outage that we were impacted by slightly here that
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Speaker 1: morning was a chaotic morning, really strange anyway, That's topic
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Speaker 1: number one. How do you create a good password. We've
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Speaker 1: been down this road before, and it is an important
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Speaker 1: thing to know that hackers using artificial intelligence to go
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Speaker 1: on a cyber crime spree. And if you're a lawyer
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Speaker 1: out there, a judge, would you please stop using artificial
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Speaker 1: intelligence unless you go back and check your citations and
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Speaker 1: the quotes from the case and the outcome from the case.
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Speaker 1: You got to look at the original case law. You've
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Speaker 1: got a couple of federal judges that actually used artificial intelligence,
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Speaker 1: that had errors in the rulings, like including quotes from
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Speaker 1: people who weren't involved in the case, erroneous outcomes in
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Speaker 1: the case, artificial touchup, making this stuff up whole cloth.
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Speaker 1: It's crazy anyway. Then we're onto private citizen Brad Winster,
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Speaker 1: former congressman. You remember him. He'll be in studio, he
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Speaker 1: always is, and that's a great thing. Have a good
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Speaker 1: conversation with him. We'll talk about shutdown here shortly, Private
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Speaker 1: Citizen brand Winster for the seven o'clock hour, and then
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Speaker 1: the return of Sarah Herringer. You may recall Sarah husband
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Speaker 1: stabbed to death in their apartment in over the Rhine,
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Speaker 1: bringing about the realization to all of us that yeah,
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Speaker 1: that ankle monitor thing doesn't mean Jack squat. We'll get
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Speaker 1: the latest on the Patrick Herringer legislation she's been pushing
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Speaker 1: and her outspoken efforts in that regard thoughts on what's
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Speaker 1: happening downtown as well. Speaking of downtown, looking for it,
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Speaker 1: the fp has rented a mobile billboard. It's got Mayor
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Speaker 1: Parvall depicted as a puppet master. Par Ball put politics
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Speaker 1: over safety. Look for it. It's going to be out
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Speaker 1: and about today sixteen foot led truck. Of course, this
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Speaker 1: is all swirling about the suspension or announcement since a
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Speaker 1: police chief, Terry Thiji, placed on administrative leave pending an
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Speaker 1: internal investigation into the effectiveness of her leadership. This is
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Speaker 1: a comical exercise. It's an embarrassing exercise, and props a
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Speaker 1: brother dre Andre Ewing for pointing out that it wasn't
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Speaker 1: more than a moment in time ago that have to
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Speaker 1: have pro Ball and Teresa thijis standing next to each
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Speaker 1: other and singing each other's praise is about how effective
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Speaker 1: her leadership is in the City of Cincinnati Police Department.
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Speaker 1: Only to be well, I guess upended by the crime
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Speaker 1: situation of downtown Cincinnati people's overall concerns, and yes, there
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Speaker 1: is a lot of crime going on in downtown Cincinati,
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Speaker 1: not with stating the fact that up until recently, Mayor
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Speaker 1: I have to have provoal said you can't believe your
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Speaker 1: own eyes and your own ears. And now we have
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Speaker 1: a prime and now we have a problem. And it's
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Speaker 1: also happens to be the number one focus of his administration.
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Speaker 1: Our number one priority continues to be public safety, as
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Speaker 1: if public safety was ever a priority for have to
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Speaker 1: have Purvall. That's what he said, though, going back to
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Speaker 1: you're gonna believe your eyes and ears, you're gonna believe
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Speaker 1: they have to have par Boll and what he says,
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Speaker 1: a you're gonna believe, well, what you know to be true,
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Speaker 1: and what we know to be true is yes, parvol
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Speaker 1: and the city manager have hiring and firing discretion over
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Speaker 1: the chief of police. Chief of police reports to them.
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Speaker 1: They are, in fact the chief of Police's bosses sus
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Speaker 1: and she was bending to their will. Remember the litigation
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Speaker 1: about the employment discrimination against white people and police Chief
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Speaker 1: Fiji's promotion of black folks and women apparently with less
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Speaker 1: merit over the What is argued in the litigation, the
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Speaker 1: more qualified and competent white guys. Let that sort itself out.
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Speaker 1: But I'm certain, given how woke they have to have
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Speaker 1: Parbo administration, is that that indeed was a directive. We
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Speaker 1: need more people of color, we need more women in
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Speaker 1: higher roles, so go about promoting them over the apparently
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Speaker 1: more qualified in a merit system anyway, white guys, because
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Speaker 1: we have too many white people or something. Statistics really
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Speaker 1: look odd on that when you see the number of
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Speaker 1: women and the number of people of color that were
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Speaker 1: I guess lieutenants who were then elevated over the number
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Speaker 1: of white lieutenants that were eligible. So anyway, there's that
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Speaker 1: problem going on in the background. Maybe it'll reveal that
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Speaker 1: bus she was in fact following the instructions of her bosses,
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Speaker 1: which makes perfect sense, Eddie. How that is going to
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Speaker 1: go on? And the shutdown is still going on going
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Speaker 1: on a federal level, and it's looking more and more like, well,
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Speaker 1: they're just starting bringing them from one problem created by
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Speaker 1: them are elected officials, into yet another one created by
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Speaker 1: this slow process. The deadline is fast approaching. The continuing
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Speaker 1: resolute or the legislation they're voting on which the Democrats
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Speaker 1: refuse to sign on to that cr which keeps funding
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Speaker 1: levels at last year's level Biden levels. I only keep
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Speaker 1: only extends until what the third week of November so
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Speaker 1: they can get the work on the appropriations bills done. TikTok, TikTok.
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Speaker 1: What day is today? Twenty fourth? Is that going to
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Speaker 1: give them enough time? Probably not. Let's se what Cleveland
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Speaker 1: Aw's got today, Cleveland Al, Welcome to the show and
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Speaker 1: a happy Friday to you, sir.
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Speaker 4: Good morning. I appreciate you letting me make a quick comment.
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Speaker 4: Happy to Yeah. I understand and appreciate the fact that
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Speaker 4: what makes your show go and makes it so successful
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Speaker 4: is your passion for reasoned thought and debate. And I
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Speaker 4: have been a loyal listener for the last six years
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Speaker 4: and will continue to do so on a daily basis.
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Speaker 4: But Fridays are always something that I look forward to,
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Speaker 4: and it's kind of like appointment radio for me. Two reasons.
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Speaker 4: One Tech Friday it keeps me keeps me safe in
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Speaker 4: the digital world. And the other thing I look forward
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Speaker 4: to every Friday is the Friday Stack of stupid. So
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Speaker 4: as a loyal listener, I am making a passion to
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Speaker 4: plea that you consider making the Friday Stack of Stupid
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Speaker 4: a protected segment.
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Speaker 1: No phone calls for the last two segments of the
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Speaker 1: five o'clock hour. You know, honestly, al I have thought
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Speaker 1: of that several times, especially because I know what the
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Speaker 1: content of the stack is stupid is, and like I
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Speaker 1: got three four callers calling in, and I always prefer
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Speaker 1: to your point. And that's the high praise anybody can
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Speaker 1: keep on me. And I can't thank you enough for
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Speaker 1: apporting to logic and reason because that's really at the
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Speaker 1: core of my being. I want to try to like
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Speaker 1: Mississippi James, causing, you know, there's always a couple of
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Speaker 1: sides to view something from, and so you got to
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Speaker 1: take into account and come up with a better solution
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Speaker 1: or at least exchange the ideas about it. That's the only
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Speaker 1: way you come up with the truth. So thank you
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Speaker 1: from the bottom of my heart for that. But yeah,
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Speaker 1: maybe that declaration will apply today.
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Speaker 4: Okay, Well, I a lot of appreciate that, A lot
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Speaker 4: of naked I appreciate it, Yeah, absolutely, and you know
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Speaker 4: it kind of keeps me thankful that but for the
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Speaker 4: grace of God go I. So, you know, the the
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Speaker 4: last thing I would like to say, is I'm going
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Speaker 4: to leave all other comments about voting to Tom and
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Speaker 4: the other listeners have a wonderful day.
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Speaker 1: I can't thank you. I appreciate your tuning into the program.
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Speaker 1: That just made my day. That logic comment, God bless you, sir.
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Speaker 1: So all right, well, why not since it is a
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Speaker 1: local story, and I hope and I expect maybe Tom
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Speaker 1: might call on the bottom of the hour one due
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Speaker 1: local stories, and since I do have a local story,
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Speaker 1: and since I was having a go at lawyers a
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Speaker 1: moment ago, stupidly using artificial intelligence and then not looking
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Speaker 1: at what the artificial intelligence spit out before you were
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Speaker 1: fool enough to file it with a court. What's Blake
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Speaker 1: Maslin's phone number? Joe, former attorney of Blake Maslin's law firm,
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Speaker 1: This Kevin Grash has since I Inquire reported, Yes, local
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Speaker 1: boy showed up outside Maslan's offices a year after he'd
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Speaker 1: been fired with what is described as war paint on
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Speaker 1: his face, a hatchet, and a baseball bat. He has
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Speaker 1: just had his law license suspended for eighteen months. This
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Speaker 1: and the suspension comes from the Supreme Court, which handles
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Speaker 1: disciplinary issues, handed down yesterday. Incident happened as the firm's
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Speaker 1: employee gathered outside the Mazeland East Walnut Hills offices in
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Speaker 1: April of last year to watch the solar eclipse. Ronald
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Speaker 1: Coleman Taylor Junior, who'd been fired the prior year for
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Speaker 1: being increasingly quote belligerent towards clients and other employees close
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Speaker 1: quote that's in the document's file with the Supreme Court
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Speaker 1: for the disciplinary hearing. Apparently he parked his vehicle across
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Speaker 1: the street from this gathering and apparently tried to challenge
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Speaker 1: Blake Maslin to a duel. It says, he is, I
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Speaker 1: don't think we're ever going to come out with the
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Speaker 1: reason for that. Joe Taylor had shaved his head, painted
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Speaker 1: his face with what the documents say he called his
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Speaker 1: words war paint. After retrieving a hatchet and a metal
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Speaker 1: baseball bat for the back of his car, shouted a
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Speaker 1: mazelan who wasn't even there, calling him to come outside.
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Speaker 1: Firms employees all pretty much all of them went inside.
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Speaker 1: His former legal assistant, though, walked up to him and
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Speaker 1: calmed him down and convinced him to get out of there.
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Speaker 1: By the time police showed up, he had in fact
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Speaker 1: gone Later that day, Taylor sent his former legal assistant
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Speaker 1: a series of text messages. Among them, here are the quotes,
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Speaker 1: I'm a blackfeet warrior. I will take scalps. What I
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Speaker 1: was praying Blake would come out so I could execute
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Speaker 1: my plan and take his scalp and drink his blood
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Speaker 1: in front of you.
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Speaker 5: What?
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Speaker 1: And Yet another text, Tailor described using a Molotov cocktail
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Speaker 1: during a big mediation to bring some innocence into it
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Speaker 1: and exponentially heighten the horror. He's been an attorney since
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Speaker 1: two thousand and eight. During the disciplinary process, he agreed
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Speaker 1: that all he agreed the allegations about the incident are
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Speaker 1: all true. He did not attend to hear him before
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Speaker 1: the Attorney Disciplinary Board, apparently before the April April twenty
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Speaker 1: twenty four incident. It was the subject matter of this
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Speaker 1: disciplinary care hearing. Taylor had threatened employees of the office,
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Speaker 1: and the office had changed its locks because of those threats,
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Speaker 1: and its decision in Supreme Court said that neither Disciplinary
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Speaker 1: Board nor the Court had information regarding Taylor's mental health
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Speaker 1: at the time of the incident or any treatment he
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Speaker 1: may have received at or afterwards. Court said Tailor not
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Speaker 1: offered even the most basic evidence about the issues quote
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Speaker 1: that undoubtedly contributed to his unconventional, erratic and threatening behavior.
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Speaker 1: He approved it unilaterally without congressional authority, part of his
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Speaker 1: power as the chief executive. Let me here you go.
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Speaker 1: Yesterday started out the program and I discussed the idea
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Speaker 1: of this just outrageous realization, how stupid. Just one more
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Speaker 1: illustration of how stupid chasing carbon dioxide is out. The
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Speaker 1: facts and figures are in Australia effort to reduce their emissions,
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Speaker 1: and they're planning on getting to zero emissions by I
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Speaker 1: guess twenty thirty or some randomly chosen date. They finally
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Speaker 1: realize that, well, China emits Australia's annual carbon output every
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Speaker 1: twelve days, annual carbon out WoT added all up, every
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Speaker 1: little gram of carbon dioxide enter the atmosphere every twelve days.
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Speaker 1: It's put out and bounced out by China. Why. Because
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Speaker 1: they're building coal plants. They use coal plants. They're building
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Speaker 1: more coal plants, currently building one hundred and seventy seven.
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Speaker 1: They got a further two hundred and twenty six in
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Speaker 1: pre construction phase. Australia of course, has none, so we're
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Speaker 1: all wasting our time. In spite of that, and in
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Speaker 1: spite of the misery, it's heaping down upon everyone because
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Speaker 1: it causes the rate of electricity, the price of electricity
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Speaker 1: to go up. Green is not inexpensive, and without subsidies, well,
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Speaker 1: it's impractical and stupid. Well's stupid for several reasons. One
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Speaker 1: because it doesn't produce continuous electricity, and to it's really
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Speaker 1: really expensive and nobody would build it or go that
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Speaker 1: way unless it was subsidized by the government. The Big
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Speaker 1: Beautiful Bill cuts back these subsidies, bringing some sanity into
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Speaker 1: our selection process when it comes to energy production, especially
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Speaker 1: since artificial intelligence has soaken up all kinds of electricity
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Speaker 1: that isn't even online yet. I mean, we're short and
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Speaker 1: out of electricity now compared to our needs, So why
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Speaker 1: are we continuing to chase our tails? Electricity prices arising.
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Speaker 1: The Democrats are trying to say it's the Republican's fault
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Speaker 1: because the subsidies have been pulled. This is not yet
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Speaker 1: has un impacted yet, that's next year. But it's climate policies.
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Speaker 1: Great article from the Wall Street Journal this morning. Read
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Speaker 1: it for yourself. Electricity prices going up. Green policy is
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Speaker 1: the blame. Yes, it is. Energy department shows California, Connecticut, Maine, Maryland, Massachusetts,
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Speaker 1: New York all their electricity prices has jumped thirty percent
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Speaker 1: in the past five years. As far as the national increase,
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Speaker 1: it's twenty two and a half percent. The states close
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Speaker 1: most of their coal fired plants, nuclear facilities too, non
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Speaker 1: renewable energy generation more difficult to well, they won't allow drilling,
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Speaker 1: they won't allow piping. They are pipelines. They won't approve
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Speaker 1: projects that aren't green related. Turned to Florida, Georgia, Missouri,
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Speaker 1: Texas and other states that do not have these policies
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Speaker 1: in place. Well, it's a lot cheaper electricity. Duh. California
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Speaker 1: prices up fifty eight percent over the past five years.
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Speaker 1: They closed all but one of their coal plants, all
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Speaker 1: of the nuclear facilities except a singular facility, Diablo Canyon Plant.
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Speaker 1: Second highest residential electric prices in the country. Massachusetts, they
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Speaker 1: produced only about half as much electricity as they did
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Speaker 1: in twenty ten. See, we're moving forward. Evolutionarily speaking, we're
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Speaker 1: moving forward. Technologically speaking. We're moving forward in so many
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Speaker 1: different ways. In terms of actual advancements. Massachusetts produces half
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Speaker 1: of what it did in twenty ten. They closed coal plants,
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Speaker 1: they closed their nuclear plant. They just going toward renewable.
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Speaker 1: Solar provides a quarter of Massachusetts power generation last year,
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Speaker 1: and they at least admitted in their climate report card
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Speaker 1: they're facing significant challenges to meet their longer term term goals.
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Speaker 1: In other words, Massachusetts hit star for electricity and we
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Speaker 1: can't achieve zero carbon policies because well, the renewables just
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Speaker 1: don't make enough electricity to meet our demands. New York
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Speaker 1: closed its last coal plant in twenty twenty. Indian Point
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Speaker 1: Nuclear plant also closed in twenty twenty one. Their system
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Speaker 1: operator now warning of significant power shortfalls. All right, they're
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Speaker 1: still looking at seventy percent renewable electricity by twenty thirty
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Speaker 1: and one hundred percent zero missions by twenty forty. How's
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Speaker 1: that going for you? Do you ever think that's going
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Speaker 1: to happen? Hell? No, it's not. And one more point
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Speaker 1: on this New England natural gas shortage. Twenty twenty four,
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Speaker 1: gas generated fifty five percent of the electricity in New England,
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Speaker 1: but for more than a decade, New York block the
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Speaker 1: construction of gas pipelines to New England to well try
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Speaker 1: to decarbonize and to reduce the shortage. Massachusetts imports liquefied
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Speaker 1: natural gas from Canada and overseas locations, which costs them
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Speaker 1: higher prices than if they got it through a pipe
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Speaker 1: right there, But New York won't let them build that.
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Speaker 1: We are colossally stupid, chasing our tails on carbon dioxide.
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Speaker 1: And you know what, you and I and well the
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Speaker 1: people most notably on life's margins are feeling the pain, unless,
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Speaker 1: of course, if you're on public assistance completely and you're
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Speaker 1: getting some sort of government relief to help offset the
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Speaker 1: reality of the expense of electricity. Think about that. Government
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Speaker 1: creates the problem. It makes electricity go up artificially, so
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Speaker 1: because of green energy policy, you are going to face
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Speaker 1: the brunt of that you're gonna have to pay for
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Speaker 1: the more expensive electricity, unless, of course, you're making so
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Speaker 1: little money you're considered a government dependent, in which case
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Speaker 1: maybe you're eligible for some assistance. Huh. Maybe that's the point.
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Speaker 1: Get everybody hooked up to some government program like, oh,
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Speaker 1: I don't know, subsidies for insurance, hiding the real cost
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Speaker 1: to the American people, but not really doing so, because
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Speaker 1: if the taxpayers ultimately are on the hook for it
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Speaker 1: through some government program. Look at our national deficit and
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Speaker 1: our debt. Yeah, one more thing government's supposed to be
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Speaker 1: paying for it because it doesn't cost anything for a subsidy.
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Speaker 6: Good morning. How are you doing today?
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Speaker 1: It's Friday? How do you think?
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Speaker 6: Yeah? Yeah, you got about what three and a half hours?
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Speaker 1: Yeah, you're planning, and I'm planning. I'm gonna go in
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Speaker 1: to the homecoming. So we had a big shin dig
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Speaker 1: going on at my at my fraternity in advance of
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Speaker 1: the parade. And so if all things, if the stars
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Speaker 1: all aligne, I'm gonna be enjoying an adult beverage standing
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Speaker 1: there in the old parking lot and having a great
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Speaker 1: time with my friends from college.
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Speaker 6: Did you did you ever get a tour of the
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Speaker 6: new practice facility?
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Speaker 7: No?
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Speaker 6: Oh, I'll see you. Like put a war gets you
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Speaker 6: in there. It's it's pretty cold. You built well, I
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Speaker 6: I pretty much know every square. It's a god forsaken place.
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Speaker 6: Now it's a it's a really cool building. But construction sites,
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Speaker 6: you know, those those of us in construction know what
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Speaker 6: I mean. It's like you spend enough time in a place,
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Speaker 6: you're like, I'm ready to get out of here. Y
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Speaker 6: on to the next and then it'll be it'll be
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Speaker 6: pretty much the same song and dance. So yeah, I
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Speaker 6: do will confirm the frost warning first time this season.
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Speaker 6: I had to scrape the windows this morning. Uh so yeah, definitely, uh,
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Speaker 6: definitely chilling out there this morning. You're you're talking about
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Speaker 6: the energy prices and and uh the supply of energy
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Speaker 6: and stuff. And I understand this is basically what's going on,
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Speaker 6: is you have a joint effort between politicians and policymakers
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Speaker 6: or whatever and the leaders of these companies. Uh. I
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Speaker 6: think I think it's either ones taking advantage of the
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Speaker 6: other vice versa. I get why companies are raising their prices.
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Speaker 6: They have a profit margin they want to make, and
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Speaker 6: they have employees to pay, and they have things to
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Speaker 6: take care of, and and as the government shuts things
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Speaker 6: down and and closes plants, they got to still make
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Speaker 6: trying to make the same amount of money overall. I
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Speaker 6: kind of get that. What I don't get is the
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Speaker 6: politicians who are allegedly supposedly working for us representing us. Yeah,
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Speaker 6: that's and that's they're there. Why would you do? I mean,
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Speaker 6: you try to think of anything that makes sense, not
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Speaker 6: necessarily right or wrong, but at least makes sense. Why
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Speaker 6: politicians would do something like this and the goodness of
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Speaker 6: their heart trying to save the planet, I don't know.
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Speaker 6: I mean, they say that, that's what they're saying, but
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Speaker 6: but I'm thinking more along the lines if they're getting
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Speaker 6: something out of this somehow, out some way. You know,
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Speaker 6: Let's see, you got campaign contributions. That's that's something that's legal,
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Speaker 6: above board that people can contribute to you and you
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Speaker 6: could keep track of. But you know, we can all speculate, uh,
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Speaker 6: you know, we all have our opinions on is there
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Speaker 6: something else going on under the table. I don't know.
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Speaker 6: But the point is is that it doesn't make sense
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Speaker 6: to deprive the citizens of something that we need. It
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Speaker 6: doesn't make any sense, especially when you have report after
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Speaker 6: report like the one you've been reading about. You know,
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Speaker 6: mention me is that this isn't working. It's in the fact,
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Speaker 6: is causing more problems than it's he than it's solving.
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Speaker 6: So this whole green energy thing is being proven to
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Speaker 6: be stupid. We need to knock it off. It doesn't
22:46
Speaker 6: mean go back to dumping toxic waste into rivers or
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Speaker 6: any Let's let's use some common sense and let's you know, hey,
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Speaker 6: let's not. So you know, let's make sure we're not
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Speaker 6: doing stupid stuff to pollute you know, the ground, the
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Speaker 6: water and all that stuff. But to go out of
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Speaker 6: our way to mandate this or mandate that, you're just
23:06
Speaker 6: asking for trouble and you're asking for things, the prices
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Speaker 6: to go through the roof. Let's let some of these
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Speaker 6: cold plants come back online, nuclear plants whatever. Because supply
23:17
Speaker 6: is down. That means prices are going up because demand
23:20
Speaker 6: is not going down, especially when they're building all these
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Speaker 6: data centers around it is demand is going through the
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Speaker 6: roof and they're choking out the supply, and what do
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Speaker 6: you think is going to happen? It just makes sense.
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Speaker 6: And you we know, if we're talking about politicians, we
23:34
Speaker 6: know who's behind this stuff. We got Rhinos and we
23:38
Speaker 6: got Democrats, So don't vote for either one of them.
23:41
Speaker 6: And I agree with al. Let's have a Friday moratorium
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Speaker 6: on calls in the bottom half of the after this segment.
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Speaker 6: Stack is stupid all day long. Have a great weekend.
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Speaker 1: Breaching you Tom appreciate it. And carbon dioxide is not
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Speaker 1: a pollutant. That's the nefarious thing they shifted. We're not
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Speaker 1: talking about pollutants are hearing screaming about mercury being belched
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Speaker 1: into the air, any other genuine pollutants that are toxic,
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Speaker 1: carcinogenic or anything else. No, that's the nefariest thing they did.
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Speaker 1: They snuck carbon dioxide in there. It's a naturally occurring phenomenon.
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Speaker 1: It's planning food to keep and perpetuate this nonsense. The
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Speaker 1: world's chasing its tail over plant food. Don't do that.
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Speaker 1: Five point thirty seven right now, if you five KRC
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Speaker 1: the talk station stack is stupid coming up? But first
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Speaker 1: the word for my dear friend, doctor Fred Pack, who
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Speaker 1: had a great guy. Fifty five KARC the talk station.
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Speaker 8: Can you play John the Fisherman?
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Speaker 1: It is Friday, It is five forty one. Answers always yes,
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Speaker 1: I know, put the smile on at least one listener.
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Speaker 1: Jeff always gets some touch to me. Let me know.
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Speaker 1: I'm looking forward to John the Fisherman. Jeff, here you go.
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Speaker 1: What let us get into the stack of stupid. Let
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Speaker 1: us see here, Friday stack is stupid and artificial intelligence
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Speaker 1: all rolled into one. Since we've got Dave had he
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Speaker 1: coming up at six point thirty, I already dived. I
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Speaker 1: dove into artificial intelligence. A little bit tongue lashing to
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Speaker 1: all the lawyers out there who don't bother checking the
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Speaker 1: citations of the research after AI belches it out, although
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Speaker 1: I do recognize that if you use artificial intelligence for drafting,
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Speaker 1: it does save your client a lot of money since
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Speaker 1: you're not doing actual work and you're not billing at
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Speaker 1: an hourly rate. Sorry, I had to get it out
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Speaker 1: of my system. We go to Florida, where we have
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Speaker 1: a woman who contacted police to report that a male
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Speaker 1: assailant barged into her home, knocked into the ground, and
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Speaker 1: committed a sexual assault. Tacker described as a stranger to
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Speaker 1: the woman. She was able to take a photo of
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Speaker 1: the suspect while he was seated on the couch in
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Speaker 1: her Saint Petersburg apartment. At least that's what it appeared
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Speaker 1: to be. Multiple offices and forensic technicians responded to the
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Speaker 1: scenes where this woman, Brooke Shinault, thirty two year old
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Speaker 1: mother of two, said the attack occurred on October seventh. However,
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Speaker 1: a subsequent police examination of the image provided by Ms.
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Speaker 1: Scheinault showed that the photo was artificial intelligence generated via
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Speaker 1: yes chat ept. This, according to the rest report, photo
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Speaker 1: also found in a deleted folder that was dated days
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Speaker 1: before she alleged the sexual battery took place. Whoops. Shawna
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Speaker 1: Alrestlee arrested for falsely reporting the crime. She spent a
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Speaker 1: night in jail, then had to post a thousand dollars
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Speaker 1: bomb when they let her out. Police court documents don't
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Speaker 1: include a motive for this stupidity, says. In a recent
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Speaker 1: post on her Instagram page, Channel noted that October is
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Speaker 1: domestic violence Awareness month and that she had for years
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Speaker 1: been in abusive relationship, saying he sexually assaulted me. But
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Speaker 1: all I can say is I survived and made it
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Speaker 1: out Claws quote.
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Speaker 8: Idiots doing idiot because they're idiots.
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Speaker 1: I was just thinking that Joe streckerd and let's see.
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Speaker 1: I think we can get one more in here for
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Speaker 1: the break. Disoriented homeless one. She was described as disoriented
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Speaker 1: homeless woman arrested after police says she walked around naked
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Speaker 1: in a state college utimart. This is in State College, Pennsylvania.
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Speaker 1: That's the name of the city. State college. So she's
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Speaker 1: walking around naked in a unimark and apparently engaging in
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Speaker 1: low behavior in front of police officers. Thirty year old
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Speaker 1: tashe Turner again found nude outside the store six thirty
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Speaker 1: in the morning September twenty sixth. She was known to
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Speaker 1: police for prior incidents and allegedly refused to stay covered
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Speaker 1: up after being given a blanket by the officers, and
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Speaker 1: then began to pleasure herself right there in front of
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Speaker 1: the patrol vehicle.
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Speaker 9: As this tradition.
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Speaker 1: Used to get deliberate penalties, I guess that works for
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Speaker 1: men and women. Joe charged with indecent exposure open lewdness
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Speaker 1: as opposed to cloewing. This disorderly conduct posted one percent
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Speaker 1: of her ten thousand dollars BAILL, and then was released
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Speaker 1: from the Center County Prison. If you're in State College, Pennsylvania,
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Speaker 1: November fifth, that's where her preliminary hearing is going on.
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Speaker 1: forward to Tech Friday with Dave Hatter every Friday at
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Speaker 1: six thirty. Stick around for that and again I always
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Speaker 1: pulled the podcast page. If you missed Tech Friday with
28:38
Speaker 1: Dave Hatter you heard from Cleveland Now earlier he looks
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Speaker 1: forward to that because it keeps him out of trouble.
28:43
Speaker 1: I have to agree with him completely. I've been following
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Speaker 1: Dave's advice for years and years, and I honestly, I
28:49
Speaker 1: don't think I'm missing anything. My refusal to use ninety
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Speaker 1: nine percent of the apps that float around out there,
28:55
Speaker 1: and I just don't need them. Let's keep you out
28:58
Speaker 1: of trouble and keep your data in your privacy secure. Anyhow,
29:01
Speaker 1: just when you think you've seen everything, are you ready,
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Speaker 1: We're going to CA Home Pass. California dispatchers began receiving
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Speaker 1: multiple nine to one to one calls eleven o'clock in
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Speaker 1: the morning October twentieth, reporting a nude guy running down
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Speaker 1: the center divider. Why are you doing that? I don't
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Speaker 1: think we're ever going to find out? Centa divider of
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Speaker 1: I fifteen Freeway right there at Kenwood Avenue, it says.
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Speaker 1: Responding officer from the California Highway Patrol Inland Division located
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Speaker 1: the man near the Kenwood Avenue on ramp, where he
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Speaker 1: was detained without incident. Witnesses said he appeared to be
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Speaker 1: under the influence of an unknown substance. Transport a local
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Speaker 1: hospital for medical evaluation. It does continue to remain under
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Speaker 1: investigation by the Highway Patrol. Additional details, they say will
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Speaker 1: be provided as they become available, like what drug he
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Speaker 1: was on. There are certain drugs that there apparently make
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Speaker 1: you want to get naked and run all over the
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Speaker 1: place and pleasure yourself quite often more naked. And also
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Speaker 1: as his tradition, we're back in Florida on a stack
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Speaker 1: of stupid Friday, which means we got a naked guy
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Speaker 1: in Florida running them up. This time it's Joshua Neil Garrison,
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Speaker 1: who they described went on a nude rampage through a
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Speaker 1: neighborhood in Penel's Park, Florida. Nude rampage. Garrison apparently crept
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Speaker 1: through backyards, did touch himself, of course he did, and
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Speaker 1: helped himself to whatever was listen nailed down while naked.
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Speaker 1: One neighbor, Dave Dale, got to see it all live
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Speaker 1: and in person. When Garrison rang his doorbell in the
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Speaker 1: middle of the night, Dale said open the door, and
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Speaker 1: there was a guy standing there and he was stark naked.
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Speaker 1: He said he wasn't satisfied merely, or rather Garrison, the
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Speaker 1: naked guy wasn't satisfied. Merely tracing through people's yard in
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Speaker 1: the nud He also needed to do a little bit
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Speaker 1: of what the article described as suburban destruction. He threw
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Speaker 1: a potted plant through Dale's truck, when tore lights off homes,
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Speaker 1: tried to speak into a sneak rather into multiple houses.
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Speaker 1: Vice dot Com reporting props the Lewis product for the
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Speaker 1: humor built into this article generally did the kinds of
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Speaker 1: stuff you would imagine a naked man roaming in a
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Speaker 1: neighborhood would feel free enough to do. Now who can argue, indeed,
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Speaker 1: but he shows them removing windows, screens, testing locked doors.
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Speaker 1: Neighbor Tim Reichman, talking to local news report of the man,
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Speaker 1: entered his home, helped himself to a drink, then grabbed
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Speaker 1: an axe from his shed. Returning to the porch, he said,
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Speaker 1: we don't know why he didn't use it phrasing we
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Speaker 1: should report us as sounding almost a little disappointed. The
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Speaker 1: naked guy didn't think it was worthy of being an
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Speaker 1: axe murderer, he said. Several neighbors were locked and loaded,
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Speaker 1: ready to unload magazines into the guy on the way,
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Speaker 1: much like tip A, Floridians might be inclined to do.
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Speaker 1: No one was injured, though, police coming through the neighborhood
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Speaker 1: footage to determine the charges. What's this doing in here,
32:12
Speaker 1: phrasing striker, this is a speedo. The guy's got a
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Speaker 1: speedo on. It's not naked, Goffstown, New Hampshire, They point out,
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Speaker 1: nine to one to one dispatchers usually don't need to
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Speaker 1: call their own dispatch center to need help from law enforcement.
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Speaker 1: But of course, in this particular case, when a guy
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Speaker 1: in a speedo goes breaking into the dispatch center, it
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Speaker 1: creates a problem. Video shows what are described as terrifying
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Speaker 1: moments inside the Hillsboro County Sheriff's office on a day
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Speaker 1: in just recently in August, man wearing nothing but a
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Speaker 1: speedo and a yellow hat tried to get into the
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Speaker 1: secure dispatch center. Thorty said. Fifty year old Corey Nickerson
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Speaker 1: barged in and tried to get from the vestibule into
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Speaker 1: the dispatch center. During the struggle, none of this came
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Speaker 1: rushing to help, according to Sheriff Brian Newcomb's quota of saying,
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Speaker 1: typically here rendering assistants over the phone and radio for
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Speaker 1: people calling nine to one one or needing an emergency help.
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Speaker 1: But that day, they found themselves needing assistance here. He said.
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Speaker 1: One of our dispatchers was coming in for work and
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Speaker 1: was accosted by mister Nickerson when she was trying to
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Speaker 1: get inside the building. Authority say both the women coming
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Speaker 1: into work in the dispatcher who tried to help are
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Speaker 1: now healing from wounds, both visible and invisible. He said,
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Speaker 1: they did the same some serious bodily injury, and certainly
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Speaker 1: there's emotional damage coming to work every day knowing this
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Speaker 1: is where the act happened. Sheriff committed the dispatchers for
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Speaker 1: the bravery. Nickerson appeared pleaded not guilty to several charges,
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Speaker 1: including assault, criminal threatening, and false imprisonment. I'm certain who's
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Speaker 1: following his lawyer's advice along those lines. But it's a
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Speaker 1: dispatch office, and like every single square inch of the
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Speaker 1: world these days, you might imagine, Yes, they have a
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Speaker 1: ton of video of this incident. All right, there's your
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Speaker 1: sacking stupid for a Friday. Let us move on. We're
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Speaker 1: gonna do Tech Friday at six thirty. As I mentioned,
34:08
Speaker 1: Private Citizen, what happened earlier this week with that Amazon
34:13
Speaker 1: cloud outage which actually impacted us to a certain degree.
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Speaker 1: How do you create a good password, sound advice from
34:18
Speaker 1: Dave Hatter in that one, and Hacker's using artificial intelligence
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Speaker 1: going to crime spree. Private citizen brad Winsterp returns to
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Speaker 1: You get a full hour with the former congressman and
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Speaker 1: get his thoughts and ideas about the closure, among other topics,
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Speaker 1: plus waging war in South America and Donald Trump now
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Speaker 1: maybe considering land to targets and also stating out loud
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Speaker 1: that he does not need congressional approval to start waging
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Speaker 1: war on land. Okay, you know, I'm fan of Donald
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Speaker 1: Trump's policies, but just because he says it doesn't mean
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Speaker 1: it's necessarily true. I'm not quite sure where brad Winstrop
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Speaker 1: is on that, but we'll talk to him about it
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Speaker 1: coming up in an hour. Sarah Herringer god lover of course,
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Speaker 1: the widow of Patrick Herringer, who was stabbed in front
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Speaker 1: of her died in her arms in their apartment and
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Speaker 1: over the Rhine. Find out that ankle monitors aren't worth
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Speaker 1: well the the words ankle monitor, let alone keeping track
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Speaker 1: of criminals who've been let out of prison with an
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Speaker 1: ankle monitor we'll get the latest on the Patrick Herringer legislation,
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Speaker 1: and we're her thoughts on what's going on with downtown
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Speaker 1: crime wise, and as we've fast approached the election. Parenthetically
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Speaker 1: since artificial I mentioned artificial intelligence in the morning because
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Speaker 1: I was thinking about Dave Hatter coming up, and I
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Speaker 1: had these illustrations again of idiot lawyers and now judges
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Speaker 1: using AI and not checking their work, submitting briefs and
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Speaker 1: opinions and posting them online when they came complete fabrications.
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Speaker 1: I just want to give you a quick illustration of that,
35:43
Speaker 1: because if you're using chat GPT, you really have to
35:45
Speaker 1: be careful. I've tried it a few times, just notably
35:49
Speaker 1: for humor, like I had to churn out some songs
35:53
Speaker 1: related to Greta Thunberg and things like that, and it's brilliant.
35:55
Speaker 1: If you want some comedy in your world, fine have it.
35:57
Speaker 1: Do that, but don't rely on it for imant things.
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Speaker 1: And so I had a fundraiser for Corey Bowman then
36:03
Speaker 1: I was introducing Corey Att. Happened last week in Wyoming,
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Speaker 1: and God blessed the Wyoming folks who are very interested
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Speaker 1: in the outcome of that election. Knowing full well that
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Speaker 1: the city of Cincinnati impacts their neighborhood. So I thought
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Speaker 1: to myself, you know what, I've never I don't really
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Speaker 1: read introductions. I typically don't even prepare notes, kind of
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Speaker 1: stream of consciousness, kind of like the Morning Show. You know,
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Speaker 1: sometimes I'm on my game and sometimes I'm not. But
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Speaker 1: I thought, you know what, I'll tell you what. I'm
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Speaker 1: going to ask chat GPT to prepare an introduction. Here's
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Speaker 1: the way I phrased the into chat GPT provide an
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Speaker 1: introductory speech for mayoral So I'm sorry, Cincinnati mayoral candidate
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Speaker 1: Corey Bowman at a fundraiser in his honor, incorporating elements
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Speaker 1: of his platform and personal background. That's as close to
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Speaker 1: a quote as I can give you what I've fed
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Speaker 1: into it. It spit out three pages of lies. It
36:56
Speaker 1: got the wrong high school he went to. It didn't
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Speaker 1: have the right college, They did not have the right degree.
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Speaker 1: They did not accurately describe positions he has held or
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Speaker 1: his work. They described him as a community activist. I'm
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Speaker 1: thinking they didn't even mention that he's a minister is
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Speaker 1: a divinity degree. And then the platform parts were hilarious.
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Speaker 1: I bet you didn't know this. Corey Bummen is campaigning
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Speaker 1: on all green, he's a green energy candidate. Really also diversity, equity, inclusion,
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Speaker 1: all in there. I'm serious. What it did churn out
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Speaker 1: was something that really really looked like have to have
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Speaker 1: pervoll platform stuff. So don't rely on it. And fortunately
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Speaker 1: I know Corey well enough, and I knew the lies
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Speaker 1: as soon as I read him for the first time,
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Speaker 1: so be careful. Yesterday the Democrats said no, screw you,
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Speaker 1: military and essential workers were not going to pay you.
37:50
Speaker 1: Democrats blocked a shut Down Fairness Act of twenty twenty five.
37:53
Speaker 1: Ron Johnson sponsored it fifty four to forty five vote.
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Speaker 1: He had a few Democrats voting for it, ors osof
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Speaker 1: Warnock and of course John Fetterman, who's seemingly more and
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Speaker 1: more seen every single day. That legislation would have paid
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Speaker 1: service members and employees determined by agency heads to be
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Speaker 1: accepted from the shutdown because they're performing emergency work. Hmm.
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Speaker 1: It would have included three under congressional employees US Capitol
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Speaker 1: Police who've been working to keep the Senate open while
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Speaker 1: they babble on the Senate floor for twenty three out
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Speaker 1: of twenty two hours and thirty seven minutes. Jeff Berkley,
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Speaker 1: Democrat would have guarantee paid for federal workers on duty
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Speaker 1: throughout the shutdown, including air traffic controllers, check Transportation Secretary
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Speaker 1: Administration agents, park rangers, federal law enforcement, immigration customs officers,
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Speaker 1: and border patrol agents. They would have been paid. Democrats said, no,
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Speaker 1: screw you guys. Now tell me if you can rationalize this,
38:46
Speaker 1: like Chuckie Schumer did. He said, quote it referring to
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Speaker 1: the bill, it's nothing more than another tool for Trump
38:53
Speaker 1: to hurt federal workers and American families and to keep
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Speaker 1: the shutdown going on for as long as he wants.
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Speaker 1: We will not give I know, we will not give
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Speaker 1: Donald Trump a license to play politics with people's livelihoods.
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Speaker 1: That's why we oppose this. What is it the elephant
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Speaker 1: in the room in the background of that statement, the
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Speaker 1: entire shutdown, which does not make this amen, Joe Stracker,
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Speaker 1: Thank you. A pivot over to Kimberly Strassel. Excellent observations.
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Speaker 1: Kim Strassell the ugliest after the showdown, which makes some
39:28
Speaker 1: great points in her op ed piece, Thank you, Wall
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Speaker 1: Street Journals. Kimberly Strassel two years ago, Saturday, the US
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Speaker 1: House voted to end a modern day crisis. Oh my god,
39:35
Speaker 1: twenty one days without a speaker of the House. The
39:39
Speaker 1: chaos marked a new low, and institutional governments ah for
39:42
Speaker 1: the good old days. It dawned on Washington this week
39:45
Speaker 1: that the unforeseen consequence of the prolonged shutdown gridlock is
39:48
Speaker 1: gonna be yes more gridlock. Then the current funding crisis
39:51
Speaker 1: is to create a new funding crisis. Democrats have now
39:54
Speaker 1: guaranteed that Rome is burning, not that the shutdown is
39:58
Speaker 1: ending soon. Minority Leader Chuck you Shimer since his lifetime
40:01
Speaker 1: employment within his reach. He's a progressive hero and a
40:04
Speaker 1: certain nihilism is swept his caucus. Some Senate Democrats voted
40:10
Speaker 1: for the twelfth time this to keep the government shut down.
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Speaker 1: This week and yesterday again, as I just pointed out,
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Speaker 1: voted to deny checks to troops and essential federal workers
40:20
Speaker 1: like air traffic controllers. Every day gets better for Democrats,
40:23
Speaker 1: mister Schumer exalts that's questionable, though, things are getting decidedly
40:27
Speaker 1: worse for most everyone else. Despite the Trump Administration's effort
40:31
Speaker 1: to mitigate showdown shut down harm, emergency measures are hitting
40:34
Speaker 1: the wall federal workforce including Senate staffers, miss their first
40:37
Speaker 1: full paycheck this week. Military and House staffers get stiffed
40:40
Speaker 1: next week. States are starting to cut food stamps for
40:43
Speaker 1: forty one million Americans. Head Start will soon run out
40:45
Speaker 1: of money, and air traffic control sick outs are beginning
40:48
Speaker 1: to snarl air travel. Optimists point to a possible November
40:54
Speaker 1: first off ramps, since that's the end of too many
40:57
Speaker 1: federal food benefits. That date happens to also marked the
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Speaker 1: end of the entire stated Democrat rationale for the shutdown,
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Speaker 1: the need to extend and hance Obamacare's subsidies before insurers
41:08
Speaker 1: on the exchange begin to open enrollment.
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Speaker 9: Huh.
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Speaker 1: Between that loss cause and all the attention the left
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Speaker 1: has managed to focus on how broken Obamacare is in general,
41:16
Speaker 1: you might think that it's a good day to bail out,
41:19
Speaker 1: but no. Democrats now think a continued shutdown drama might
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Speaker 1: drive base turnout in of course, the ever fourth elections
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Speaker 1: in Virginia and New Jersey, or maybe win that California
41:30
Speaker 1: redistricting referendum, or ruin Donald Trump's Thanksgiving or something. A
41:35
Speaker 1: big consequence is already here. The length of this shutdown
41:38
Speaker 1: has shattered whatever plans Congress. Both sides had for an
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Speaker 1: orderly exit from the impass and that means that what
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Speaker 1: comes next could prove to be as messy as what
41:47
Speaker 1: we have now. House to cr past September nineteenth design
41:52
Speaker 1: to keep the government running until November twenty first, which
41:55
Speaker 1: is supposed to give Congress eight weeks to work through
41:56
Speaker 1: the fiscal year appropriations. But every day the passes makes
41:59
Speaker 1: the resolution of that resolution more of a dead letter
42:02
Speaker 1: and adds to the elusiveness of a deal. Senate Republicans
42:08
Speaker 1: have tied to the progress Chief Appropriators Susan Collins and
42:11
Speaker 1: Patty Murray, who have made fiscal twenty twenty six bills.
42:14
Speaker 1: But those bills, this being the Senate, spend tens of
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Speaker 1: billions more than House Republicans will tolerate, and don't expect
42:21
Speaker 1: Speaker Mike Johnson to end this career and his career
42:23
Speaker 1: by turning to Democrats to jam those bills through. Nobody
42:28
Speaker 1: is rubber stamping anything yet there's no time for a
42:31
Speaker 1: House Senate conference. Pressure is building on Johnson to bring
42:36
Speaker 1: the House back to a start, a prospect almost as
42:39
Speaker 1: appealing as a root canal. She writes. By this point,
42:43
Speaker 1: there's no guarantee he can pass another Continuing resolution, no
42:45
Speaker 1: guarantee on what one would look like, and no optimism
42:49
Speaker 1: it would produce a result. Democrats so thoroughly in a
42:52
Speaker 1: tantrum mode that last week they refused to provide sixty
42:55
Speaker 1: votes for a single popular funding bill, the Annual Defense
42:59
Speaker 1: approbe Creations Bill, which in July get a load of
43:02
Speaker 1: This passed twenty six to three out of committee bipartisan
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Speaker 1: I guess it is, will they vote on it?
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Speaker 4: No?
43:11
Speaker 1: Even if they had the shutdown? Will they agree to
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Speaker 1: any full year funding that doesn't give them everything they want,
43:17
Speaker 1: including wild Obamacare subsidies rhetorical question. This has some Republicans
43:24
Speaker 1: now arguing for a full year CR one that gets
43:27
Speaker 1: Congress passed next year's midterms. But this would lock the
43:30
Speaker 1: GOP into another year of Joe Biden's spending levels, starve
43:34
Speaker 1: the military, and infuriate House Conservatives who were promised an
43:37
Speaker 1: end to government by Continuing Resolution or omnibus bills. And
43:43
Speaker 1: that's before the appropriation appropriators throw a fit over losing
43:47
Speaker 1: their precious earmarks. The situation is stalemated enough to have
43:52
Speaker 1: some GOP members floating the ill considered idea of killing
43:55
Speaker 1: the filibuster for appropriations. That move would rescue Democrats from
43:59
Speaker 1: the show down morass, even as Republicans did the lefts
44:02
Speaker 1: dirty work, making the real left dream of ending the
44:06
Speaker 1: Senate's best institutional check, the sixty vote threshold. The next
44:12
Speaker 1: Democratic Congress would take that GOP president and run with it,
44:15
Speaker 1: killing the filibuster to impose gun control, federalized voting rules,
44:19
Speaker 1: open borders, and blow the bank. She concludes shutdowns of
44:25
Speaker 1: the byproduct of Washington dysfunction. But Democrats and transience in
44:28
Speaker 1: this one. Their indifference to convention or consequence in their
44:32
Speaker 1: drive to impose their demands on a country that they
44:34
Speaker 1: lost in the last election is the unfortunate evidence that
44:38
Speaker 1: dysfunction can always get worse. What's worse than a shutdown
44:44
Speaker 1: in this case maybe what comes after. Excellent points Kimberly Strassel.
44:50
Speaker 1: I think we find ourselves right square in the middle
44:53
Speaker 1: of what would be described in the military as a
44:56
Speaker 1: Charlie foxtrot six sixteen right now fifty five K talk
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Speaker 1: Station twenty two three Route forty two between Mason and
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Speaker 1: Lebanon and Garcini talk station. So Happy It's Friday. I'm
45:07
Speaker 1: coming tomorrow. David he'll be there in spirit, not his
45:14
Speaker 1: alma mater anyhow, five three two three, talk real quick here.
45:19
Speaker 1: I mentioned the bombing going well, the bombing of the
45:23
Speaker 1: cartel boats. Yesterday, Donald Trump suggested they're going to take
45:26
Speaker 1: it to the land. Uh huh. Land is going to
45:31
Speaker 1: be next. And he doesn't necessarily intend to seek a
45:34
Speaker 1: declaration of war. So, of course we've been blowing up
45:39
Speaker 1: what they go fast boats as speedboats, allegedly with drugs
45:42
Speaker 1: on them, containing allegedly narco terrorists. No real confirmation on that.
45:47
Speaker 1: I know the Venezuelan government can't be trusted and they
45:50
Speaker 1: say that, well, no, we blew up a fishing boat
45:51
Speaker 1: in one case. Don't know, don't have the facts. Personally,
45:54
Speaker 1: I can't comment on that, And people who listen to
45:56
Speaker 1: the show regularly know my feelings about bombing people randomly
46:00
Speaker 1: outside the territory of waters in the United States of America.
46:03
Speaker 1: International waters is where that's going on. Anyway. Trump told
46:07
Speaker 1: reporters yesterday, well, I don't think we're gonna necessarily ask
46:11
Speaker 1: for a declaration of war. I think we're just gonna
46:14
Speaker 1: kill people that are bringing drugs into our country. Okay,
46:17
Speaker 1: We're gonna kill them laws quote, and I guess I
46:23
Speaker 1: kind of one for those who think this is a
46:24
Speaker 1: great idea. Is it a great idea because Trump's doing it?
46:28
Speaker 1: And would you be comfortable if, let's say it was
46:30
Speaker 1: President Barack Obama doing this, Not that that would ever happen,
46:33
Speaker 1: I don't think, but just try to put yourself in
46:35
Speaker 1: that position if you would be approving of these kind
46:37
Speaker 1: of measures. Anyway, of course, we've killed nearly forty people.
46:41
Speaker 1: A couple of them survive. Two people in the submarine
46:43
Speaker 1: that we blew up survive. They've been repatriated. So Trump said,
46:49
Speaker 1: now the drugs are coming in by land. You know,
46:52
Speaker 1: the land is going to be next, which he has
46:56
Speaker 1: previously suggested before mentioning land operations. And I note the
47:00
Speaker 1: just sent B one somebody sent B one bombers, our
47:03
Speaker 1: B one bombers near Venezuela just yesterday. B one bombers.
47:09
Speaker 1: Those are the big ones. I didn't realize they can
47:12
Speaker 1: carry up the seventy five thousand pounds of bombs. That's
47:16
Speaker 1: a lot of payload right there. Anyway, obviously, stepping up
47:19
Speaker 1: our military presidence, we've got all kinds of folks down there.
47:23
Speaker 1: Eight warships, a submarine, a P eight Maritime patrol, aircraft
47:28
Speaker 1: MQ nine Reaper drones, F thirty five fighter squadrons and
47:32
Speaker 1: now of course B one bombers. Huge show of force
47:35
Speaker 1: for the drug cartels venzuell when President Nicholas muduro I
47:39
Speaker 1: thought this was comical, speaking yesterday, warning that if the
47:45
Speaker 1: United States ever intervened in the country, here we go
47:48
Speaker 1: ready quote, the working class would rise and a general
47:54
Speaker 1: insurrectional strike would be declared in the streets until power
47:58
Speaker 1: is regained, also interjecting that millions of men and women
48:04
Speaker 1: with rifles would march across the country close quote. I
48:09
Speaker 1: think that means from his perspective that we're going to
48:12
Speaker 1: roll in troops invent as well. I think Donald Trump
48:15
Speaker 1: will probably just go with the drone strike kind of
48:17
Speaker 1: B one bomber drop or something else on wherever these
48:19
Speaker 1: drugs are being manufactured, wherever he figures out that the
48:22
Speaker 1: narco terrorists are sitting, kind of like we just knock
48:25
Speaker 1: off heads of hamas or Israel does anyway or other
48:28
Speaker 1: you know, dangerous terrorist leaders around the country find the
48:31
Speaker 1: head of the snake and blow it up. But my
48:34
Speaker 1: reaction to is statement about millions of men and women
48:37
Speaker 1: with rifles would march across the country. I think the
48:40
Speaker 1: follow up to that should have been and overthrow the
48:43
Speaker 1: Maduro regime. It would create an opportunity for a coup. Anyway,
48:49
Speaker 1: tech fight to a day of Hatter. He'll be up
48:50
Speaker 1: next if we can stick around for that. And I'm
48:52
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49:00
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49:02
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49:11
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49:14
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49:17
Speaker 1: of trouble every single day, and for coming on the
49:19
Speaker 1: program every Friday at this time and get passing out
49:21
Speaker 1: some good advice. Welcome back, my friend.
49:24
Speaker 10: It's always my pleasure. Brian.
49:25
Speaker 5: You know, I always hope you're doing some good out
49:27
Speaker 5: there and helping people have a way all of the
49:30
Speaker 5: digital pitfalls that we increasingly see every day.
49:33
Speaker 1: Well, and the pitfalls that result in problems for us
49:36
Speaker 1: when say, Amazon's cloud goes out. We were interrupted in
49:40
Speaker 1: to a certain degree when that happened on Monday here. Yeah, yeah,
49:44
Speaker 1: well not catastrophically so, but we did have some problems.
49:49
Speaker 10: It goes to show.
49:50
Speaker 5: So you know, if you look at the stats, and
49:52
Speaker 5: you can get stats anywhere, you've got three. There are
49:55
Speaker 5: lots of cloud providers out there, but you have three
49:57
Speaker 5: big players. Amazon is the number one in market chair
50:00
Speaker 5: with Amazon Web Services. A lot of people don't even
50:03
Speaker 5: realize they're in this business, right They think of Amazon
50:05
Speaker 5: as essentially an online retailer. They're into all kinds of things,
50:08
Speaker 5: but a big part of their revenue comes from Amazon
50:10
Speaker 5: Web Services, which is a cloud platform that you can
50:14
Speaker 5: leverage as a business to outsource services you would have
50:17
Speaker 5: had to provide internally yourself in the past, Like you
50:19
Speaker 5: don't need servers anymore. You can put your services, your software,
50:25
Speaker 5: whatever else you might need in the Amazon web Services cloud.
50:29
Speaker 5: I've seen stats anywhere between. They have thirty to forty
50:32
Speaker 5: percent of that market. Microsoft is the next biggest player
50:35
Speaker 5: in the clouds. Now Microsoft tests them to call it Azure.
50:39
Speaker 5: They've got other stuff like Microsoft three sixty five, but
50:41
Speaker 5: Azure would be the closest to Amazon Web Services generally speaking.
50:45
Speaker 5: Then you've got Google Cloud kind of bringing up the
50:48
Speaker 5: third third space there probably similar size to Microsoft, maybe
50:53
Speaker 5: a little bit less. And then there are other players,
50:55
Speaker 5: but you've got a lot of concentration. It's called concentration risk,
50:59
Speaker 5: and these three big players. Now I am generally a
51:02
Speaker 5: fan of the cloud. There's no doubt in my mind
51:05
Speaker 5: that if you know what you're doing and you can
51:06
Speaker 5: figure things correctly, you can actually be more secure using
51:10
Speaker 5: these services than you're on prem You can have less complexity,
51:14
Speaker 5: but there is a different type of risk. You've got
51:16
Speaker 5: this concentration risk of a few very large players, and
51:21
Speaker 5: if something happens to.
51:22
Speaker 10: Them, you go down.
51:23
Speaker 5: You also have you know, third party risk. When it
51:25
Speaker 5: does go down, it knocks out all kinds of things
51:28
Speaker 5: you know. Well, Amazon Web Services was out for roughly
51:31
Speaker 5: around fifteen hours in total. It brought down all kinds
51:35
Speaker 5: of other services, from things like roadblocks to zoom to
51:39
Speaker 5: Internet of Things devices. I don't know if you saw
51:42
Speaker 5: Brian like some sleep number beds stop working correctly and
51:45
Speaker 5: interestingly enough. Yeah, crazy right, because you need your bed
51:48
Speaker 5: connected to the internet.
51:49
Speaker 1: Of course, I have a sleep Number bed. It does
51:51
Speaker 1: not have Internet access, and I'm trying to figure out
51:53
Speaker 1: why in the hell would anybody need a sleep number
51:55
Speaker 1: bed with its an internet access. That's blank a crazy day.
51:58
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, you.
51:59
Speaker 10: Know, you know I agree with you, old heart of
52:01
Speaker 10: the Bran.
52:02
Speaker 5: I'm bash on the Internet of things, so called smart
52:05
Speaker 5: devices all the.
52:05
Speaker 1: Time setting to ninety five from ninety from here in
52:09
Speaker 1: the studio because it's so important that I can adjust
52:12
Speaker 1: the mattress setting from elsewhere. Pop.
52:15
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's also so important for them to be able
52:17
Speaker 5: to collect all the information about, you know, the state
52:20
Speaker 5: of your bed, whatever that might mean at any given time.
52:23
Speaker 10: I'm sure that could be helpful to you.
52:24
Speaker 5: But nevertheless, you know, they were down for a fairly
52:29
Speaker 5: extended period of time. It's not the first time they've
52:31
Speaker 5: been down. It's not like this hasn't happened to other
52:34
Speaker 5: cloud providers either, So again, I'm I In general, I
52:38
Speaker 5: think the cloud still makes sense for many businesses in
52:42
Speaker 5: many use cases. However, you have to understand the third
52:46
Speaker 5: party risk that it brings along. Again, people playing roadblocks
52:49
Speaker 5: suddenly are down because roadblocks host some of their capabilities
52:53
Speaker 5: through AWS. And the bigger point to me is that
52:57
Speaker 5: it illustrates as a business you have to understand the
53:00
Speaker 5: idea of third party risk in general. Anytime you're outsourcing
53:04
Speaker 5: anything to a third party, there's some risk there. You
53:06
Speaker 5: can build systems, even in the cloud that would be
53:10
Speaker 5: more resilient, less likely to go down, right, And you
53:13
Speaker 5: could even argue that when these large providers go down
53:16
Speaker 5: versus you want you have something on prim down or
53:19
Speaker 5: some small provider. You know, when you have hundreds or
53:22
Speaker 5: thousands of businesses out there's an enormous amount of pressure
53:25
Speaker 5: to get that back up very and.
53:26
Speaker 1: They've got a well oiled team in house to deal
53:29
Speaker 1: with those things on an emergency basis too, I imagine.
53:32
Speaker 5: So again, I don't think this should necessarily be an
53:35
Speaker 5: indication that people should turn away from the cloud, but
53:37
Speaker 5: I do think you need it as a business. You
53:39
Speaker 5: need to understand the risk, and you know you can
53:42
Speaker 5: spend more money, you can build more resilient systems to
53:44
Speaker 5: make sure that doesn't happen.
53:46
Speaker 10: It does, though, however, point out to me that we have.
53:50
Speaker 5: To continually be thinking as a society about how can
53:53
Speaker 5: we build things that are more resilient and more robust
53:56
Speaker 5: and less likely to go down, because you know that
53:59
Speaker 5: I've seen experts estimate that that will cost anywhere between
54:02
Speaker 5: ten billion to one hundred billion that outage across all
54:05
Speaker 5: of the different businesses that were impacted by it, and
54:08
Speaker 5: you know that what the downtime did to them, and
54:11
Speaker 5: you know they pointed Amazon. So far everything I've seen
54:14
Speaker 5: no indication of a cyber attack. It looks like it
54:16
Speaker 5: was DNS, the domain name system issue that it got
54:20
Speaker 5: into something called a race condition where each system is
54:23
Speaker 5: sort of fighting with the other system.
54:24
Speaker 10: It brought things down and.
54:27
Speaker 5: You know, internally, which then started to impact the services
54:30
Speaker 5: that rely on these Amazon Web services. So it's really
54:34
Speaker 5: interesting how it went down. I'm sure they'll, you know,
54:38
Speaker 5: do lots of post mortems and after action reports and
54:41
Speaker 5: that particular thing won't happen again. But it does show
54:44
Speaker 5: you just how interconnected our society is, a reliant we
54:48
Speaker 5: are on these things, and how a yes, why does
54:51
Speaker 5: your smart device need to be smart and need to
54:54
Speaker 5: be connected to all these other things so that you
54:56
Speaker 5: have these physical impacts in the real world, And then
55:00
Speaker 5: you know, we just got to get serious about building
55:02
Speaker 5: systems that are less likely to.
55:04
Speaker 10: Have this happen.
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Speaker 1: Amen to that good question about it. Let's pause, bring
55:08
Speaker 1: it back for some solid sound information I can use.
55:11
Speaker 1: How do you create a good password? I think you
55:14
Speaker 1: justsed forty here fifty five kr CEV talk station at
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Speaker 1: b Friday Tech front of me. Dave had our interest
55:19
Speaker 1: I dot com to find Dave and the team for
55:21
Speaker 1: your business computer needs. Uh, real solid advice we're gonna
55:24
Speaker 1: get in this segment. You've been a big fan of
55:26
Speaker 1: letting my listeners know about how to you know, you
55:28
Speaker 1: need a strong password password manager. Uh, and you people
55:32
Speaker 1: just apparently haven't gotten the memo, Dave. You know password
55:35
Speaker 1: one is not a good password. Everybody has used it
55:38
Speaker 1: in the past. That's the first thing these you know,
55:40
Speaker 1: computer generated search you know, password destructors or whatever the
55:44
Speaker 1: hell you call those things. They're going to try to
55:45
Speaker 1: randomly guess your password. They're going to start with the easy,
55:48
Speaker 1: stupid ones that people apparently still use.
55:50
Speaker 5: Right, Dave, Everything you said is right, Brian, so I
55:54
Speaker 5: listen to you add to that further that as computers
55:59
Speaker 5: get more powerful, it's faster to guess more passwords more quickly.
56:05
Speaker 4: Right.
56:06
Speaker 5: An organization called Hive puts out a chart every year
56:09
Speaker 5: that shows you how long it would take to crack
56:11
Speaker 5: a password, from like four characters that are all numbers
56:16
Speaker 5: out to eighteen characters that include letters, numbers, upper and
56:21
Speaker 5: lowercase symbols, And it goes anywhere from basically instantaneous to
56:26
Speaker 5: four hundred and sixty three quinn trillion years once you
56:29
Speaker 5: get to that eighteen character link that has upper and
56:33
Speaker 5: lowercase symbols and numbers and letters.
56:36
Speaker 1: So I'm good going with a sixteen character that contains
56:39
Speaker 1: not only fake words that are made up by me,
56:42
Speaker 1: but also a whole variety of symbols and letters and
56:44
Speaker 1: numbers and caps and lowercase than that.
56:47
Speaker 10: But here's the thing. Here's the thing I get.
56:50
Speaker 5: Most people, unless they have a password manager, have no
56:52
Speaker 5: way to manage that. And NIST is the National Institute
56:56
Speaker 5: of Standards and Technology. They're the ones that originally came
56:59
Speaker 5: up with all of these password rules, like you should
57:02
Speaker 5: change your passwords every ninety days and stuff like that. Right,
57:05
Speaker 5: and over time, as they've seen how people behave and
57:08
Speaker 5: what sort of attacks are effective, they've changed their guidance. Okay,
57:13
Speaker 5: so they just recently put out some new guidance, thus
57:15
Speaker 5: prompting us to talk about it today. And you know,
57:19
Speaker 5: I'll post this in my notes, but this is from
57:21
Speaker 5: this how do I create a good password? And what
57:23
Speaker 5: else can I do to secure my online accounts? So
57:25
Speaker 5: you'll see they give a lot of the same advice
57:27
Speaker 5: you and I have been giving on this show now
57:29
Speaker 5: for a long time. They talk about some of the
57:33
Speaker 5: things like again you mentioned password one. You know, every year,
57:38
Speaker 5: based on the billions of records that get stolen and
57:41
Speaker 5: leaked online on the dark web for bad guys to use,
57:44
Speaker 5: you see the same bad patterns people keep using the
57:46
Speaker 5: same bad passwords, so hackers don't even need to try
57:50
Speaker 5: to crack the things. They will often just go for
57:53
Speaker 5: the low hanging fruit because they know many people will
57:56
Speaker 5: use one of several bad passwords, and they'll use the
58:00
Speaker 5: same bad password across multiple accounts. So you know, it
58:03
Speaker 5: might not be password, it might be password with an
58:07
Speaker 5: ad sign and an exclamation point.
58:09
Speaker 10: Is you want to be.
58:10
Speaker 1: Extra security signs?
58:13
Speaker 10: Yeah, the bad guys know this, right, they know all
58:15
Speaker 10: of this. But even if you're not.
58:17
Speaker 5: Doing something like that, then they can use these programs
58:20
Speaker 5: that can literally generate you know, millions of tries a
58:24
Speaker 5: second until they eventually land on your password. This missed
58:28
Speaker 5: article talks about all of that, but the bottom line, right,
58:33
Speaker 5: and they again they touch on all kinds of topics,
58:36
Speaker 5: password manager, multifacture, authentication, you know, the best advice And
58:40
Speaker 5: they say, well, right here from this misted article, they
58:43
Speaker 5: say adding a second character increases that number to twenty
58:46
Speaker 5: six times twenty six. So they're talking about the link
58:48
Speaker 5: and then the permutations, right, the number of times you
58:51
Speaker 5: would have to guess a password to get it. So
58:55
Speaker 5: they say an a character password would take about two
58:58
Speaker 5: hundred billion guesses. Okay, but then they go on to
59:01
Speaker 5: say modern laptop can comfortably generate one hundred billion guesses
59:06
Speaker 5: per second, So I was way under my estimate. So
59:08
Speaker 5: eight characters is not very secure at all. Then they
59:11
Speaker 5: go on to say they recommend that your passwords should
59:13
Speaker 5: be at least fifteen characters. At one hundred bion guesses
59:17
Speaker 5: per second, it would take a computer more than five
59:19
Speaker 5: hundred years to guess all the possible combinations of just
59:24
Speaker 5: fifteen lower case letters. Now, if you throw in upper
59:27
Speaker 5: case letters, symbols, and numbers, it's basically uncrackable because instead
59:32
Speaker 5: of twenty six permutations right, the twenty six characters the alphabet,
59:36
Speaker 5: add in ten numbers, add in like another twenty symbols.
59:40
Speaker 5: It basically becomes uncrackable. But they know that people can't
59:43
Speaker 5: remember fifty or one hundred different random passwords like that,
59:49
Speaker 5: so they suggest that you use a passphrase, same thing
59:51
Speaker 5: we've been saying for a long time. Come up with
59:54
Speaker 5: something that's at least eighteen characters long and just a
59:57
Speaker 5: random phrase. Pick three different words that only you would know,
1:00:01
Speaker 5: easy to remember, easy to type, Longer is better if
1:00:05
Speaker 5: you throw some symbols into it, like the example they
1:00:07
Speaker 5: give here is cassette, lava baby. It's just totally nonsensible, right,
1:00:12
Speaker 5: But if you, let's say, replace the e's with threes
1:00:15
Speaker 5: or maybe the a's with ad signs, you've added some
1:00:18
Speaker 5: more randomness to it that is essentially uncrackable. But again,
1:00:22
Speaker 5: the focus is on the link. The link is the
1:00:25
Speaker 5: most important attribute, and of course that it's not guessable
1:00:28
Speaker 5: or known to someone else. And then you know, any
1:00:32
Speaker 5: randomization by swapping some characters out, adding numbers or symbols
1:00:36
Speaker 5: is a plus. But they're saying eighteen characters, and then
1:00:39
Speaker 5: they do say, yeah, use a password manager, because if
1:00:43
Speaker 5: you have a strong unique pass phrase on your password
1:00:46
Speaker 5: manager coupled with MFA and it's a quality password manager
1:00:50
Speaker 5: that uses zero knowledge encryption, you're basically going to be
1:00:53
Speaker 5: like the Rocket Gibraltar or Fort Knox compared to the
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Speaker 5: average person who isn't using a password manager, who doesn't
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Speaker 5: have eighteen character passphrases and is using the same bad
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Speaker 5: passwords across multiple accounts. So again, this isn't Dave Hatter's opinion.
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Speaker 5: This is the federal government organization that's responsible for creating
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Speaker 5: these guidelines that everyone follows anyway, telling you exactly what
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Speaker 5: to do.
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Speaker 1: See, you just knocked the recommendation down a notche I
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Speaker 1: trust you, Dave haddim, more than I trust something from
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Speaker 1: the federal government. Six forty six right now coming up.
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Speaker 1: Hackers using artificial intelligence siguanne a cyber crime spree. Eh
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Speaker 1: it dot COM's Dave Hatter Dave hackers using artificial intelligence
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Speaker 1: shocking no one, what's this one all about?
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Speaker 5: Yeah, not at all. Surprising, Brian. You know, this is
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Speaker 5: something we've talked about off and on for a long time.
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Speaker 5: In particular, I just I want to keep reiterating with
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Speaker 5: people it is trivially easy and free or a bad
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Speaker 5: guy or a bad girl out there, bad actor, if
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Speaker 5: you will, to go online find a site where they
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Speaker 5: can clone a voice and deep fake someone. So when
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Speaker 5: you get a message or even possibly a live call
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Speaker 5: from someone that you think you know, your son, your wife,
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Speaker 5: your boss, wome ever, it could easily be a deep
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Speaker 5: fake voice clone. People say, well, how would you get
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Speaker 5: in my voice if I call your phone? Do you
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Speaker 5: have voicemail greeting? Well, I can clone you in less
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Speaker 5: than fifteen minutes. So that's just one angle. I'd like
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Speaker 5: to keep reiterating that that's not what this is about,
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Speaker 5: because I don't think people believe it until they see
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Speaker 5: it themselves, and I have demonstrated many times you can
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Speaker 5: do that. This is an article came from NBC and
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Speaker 5: it's basically based on a story from Anthropic. They're one
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Speaker 5: of the larger AI players and they said in a
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Speaker 5: report that they published on their website about their AI tool,
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Speaker 5: Claude quote used AI to what we believe is an
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Speaker 5: unpressed degree unquote. This is from their report to hack
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Speaker 5: and extort at least seventeen companies. This is the first
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Speaker 5: documented instance of this. I'm just kind of skimming over
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Speaker 5: this article because they have a few interesting points. And
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Speaker 5: then from this blog post from Anthropic about their own tool, right,
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Speaker 5: they said that the guy whoever used this created Malicia's
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Speaker 5: software to steal sensitive information from companies. He used it
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Speaker 5: to target specific companies that had particular vulnerabilities where this
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Speaker 5: software that was created by the AI bot could be used. Right,
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Speaker 5: It had flaws he could exploit, and then it organized
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Speaker 5: the hacked files, analyzed them to tell him like what
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Speaker 5: information was sensitive, and then could be used to try
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Speaker 5: to extort the victim. So basically, first off, I guess
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Speaker 5: kudos to the creativity of the hacker who was able
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Speaker 5: to realize that you could use this tool to do
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Speaker 5: all of these things, because you know, it's one thing
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Speaker 5: to be to have the skill to do these things yourself.
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Speaker 5: It's another to be which would be difficult, by the way,
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Speaker 5: It's another to go, Okay, I'm going to use some
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Speaker 5: AI tool like Claude or chat, GPT or rock or
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Speaker 5: something to help me, find companies that have vulnerabilities, write
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Speaker 5: software that ex can exploit those vulnerabilities, analyze the data
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Speaker 5: that I've captured, and then figure out how to go
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Speaker 5: after them for the money. Because here's informationally sensitive.
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Speaker 1: So you're asking artificial intelligence to sort of operate a
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Speaker 1: criminal enterprise and explain and break down how to do that.
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Speaker 10: Essentially.
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Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean you're getting advice and guidance and possibly
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Speaker 5: even you know, software or at least snippets of software
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Speaker 5: from this tool that you're then using to defraud someone else.
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Speaker 10: You know.
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Speaker 5: Now they're saying this appears to be someone outside the US,
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Speaker 5: and happen over the span of three months. And supposely
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Speaker 5: all these tools have capabilities to prevent people from using
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Speaker 5: them in you know, criminal or at least unethical ways.
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Speaker 1: Right.
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Speaker 5: You may hear the term jail breaking, the idea that
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Speaker 5: you can break out of the core functionality of something.
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Speaker 5: Apparently this individual was able to do that. It's just
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Speaker 5: it's interesting, and I have been warning for a long time,
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Speaker 5: you know, I don't think certainly these large language based,
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Speaker 5: large language model based generative AI tools like Claude are
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Speaker 5: going to wipe us out or take all the jobs
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Speaker 5: anytime soon. And even though you hear about layoffs and
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Speaker 5: so forth, there are more and more stories coming out
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Speaker 5: showing the limitations.
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Speaker 10: Of these oh they and so forth.
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Speaker 1: Dave, real quick here. I did an introduct introduction of
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Speaker 1: Corey Bowman at a fundraiser last week, and just just
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Speaker 1: to see how it worked, I said the chat GPT
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Speaker 1: and this is pretty close to what I typed in
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Speaker 1: prepare an introductory speech for Cincinnati mayoral candidate Corey Bowman
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Speaker 1: at a fundraiser in his honor, incorporating elements of his
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Speaker 1: platform and his personal life. It was basically three pages
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Speaker 1: of all erroneous information, wrong schools, wrong degrees, wrong jobs.
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Speaker 1: His platform was something out of a left wing uh
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Speaker 1: you know, sort of moist dream, if you know what
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Speaker 1: I mean. It had nothing to do with him at all.
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Speaker 1: So if you didn't know Corey Bowman, he let it
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Speaker 1: spit the information out you to look like a complete
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Speaker 1: idiot standing in front of the Crown reading it now.
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Speaker 1: I had no intention of reading, because people know that
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Speaker 1: I don't. I rarely ever read it at when I'm
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Speaker 1: doing MC's and facilitations like that. But I just wanted
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Speaker 1: to see what it looked like. And it was I
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Speaker 1: brought it to him. I said, hey, here's what chat
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Speaker 1: GPT has to say about you. It's really funny. Don't
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Speaker 1: rely on it. Dave Hatter, God bless you an interest
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Speaker 1: I for sponsoring this segment, keeping us on the right path.
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Speaker 1: Listen to what Dave has to say. He's not here
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Speaker 1: I appreciate you willingness to come on the show and
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Speaker 10: Always my pleasure, Brian. I will look forward to talking
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Speaker 10: to you next Friday.
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Speaker 1: Tak Karen, have a great weekend. Brother six fifty six
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Speaker 1: right now in studio, he's already here, Citizen Brad Weinster,
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Speaker 1: a former congressman. He's got a few questions to talk
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Speaker 1: or a few answers. The two questions we've got, we'll
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Speaker 1: start with the government shutdown. Why not be right.
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Speaker 3: I know you know who Sarah is, but a reminder
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Speaker 3: to the extent you don't have the widow of Patrick
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Speaker 3: and I just I cannot imagine the horror of having
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Speaker 3: We're gonna hope she's getting closer to the goal of
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Speaker 1: The meantime, without further ado in studio, I'm staring at him.
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Speaker 1: Former Congressman now private citizen, Brad Winster, Welcome back, my friend.
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Speaker 1: It's always great having you here.
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Speaker 8: It's always a pleasure to be here.
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Speaker 1: Brian, you lived it you as congressman. You've been through
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Speaker 1: this before. You remember shutdowns before, don't you? Yeah?
1:08:22
Speaker 8: I do, I do all too well.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, got him resolved in the past. This one seems
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Speaker 1: to be a horse of a different color, because I
1:08:29
Speaker 1: think it's just it's insanity. I mean, what is going
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Speaker 1: on now makes absolutely no sense? And did the extend
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Speaker 1: anybody is paying attention to this? I don't mean this
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Speaker 1: the idea of the concept of who's gonna win the
1:08:43
Speaker 1: blame game? Right, who's gonna get blamed for the shutdown?
1:08:46
Speaker 1: It seems to be the focus of everything. Well in
1:08:48
Speaker 1: this particular case, to the extent you care. How could
1:08:51
Speaker 1: the Democrats escape absolute ownership of this shutdown? The Republicans
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Speaker 1: cleared the deck of any argument that might have by
1:09:00
Speaker 1: passing that clean continued resolution keeping funding levels under the
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Speaker 1: Biden era funding levels that the Democrats fought for. So here, guys,
1:09:09
Speaker 1: we've got that. Let's keep the government funded at your
1:09:11
Speaker 1: level until we get this situation resolved. The twelve appropriations bills,
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Speaker 1: So they got an end data. What is it November?
1:09:18
Speaker 1: Is it twenty first or something? In the legislation. It's
1:09:21
Speaker 1: it's fast approaching so as I read Kimberly Strassel did
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Speaker 1: an analysis of this, you know, TikTok, TikTok. Are they really
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Speaker 1: going to be able accomplish anything even if they get
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Speaker 1: this clean CR pass in the Senate, which does not
1:09:33
Speaker 1: look likely yesterday, wouldn't even vote to pay military and
1:09:37
Speaker 1: f and air traffic controllers. Just keep them paid while
1:09:41
Speaker 1: we work out this mess. No, no, no, And I
1:09:43
Speaker 1: can read you what Chuckie Schumer said, because it makes
1:09:46
Speaker 1: no sense whatsoever. Chuckie Schumer called giving the Capitol police
1:09:51
Speaker 1: and ice agents and federal certain congressional employees, the air
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Speaker 1: traffic controllers, the park rang, federal law enforcement people that
1:10:02
Speaker 1: are critical. Nobody's denying this. People that are still essential workers.
1:10:05
Speaker 1: They're working without a paycheck, so let's just give them
1:10:07
Speaker 1: their paycheck. No, said Democrats, and Chuckie Schumer quoted as
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Speaker 1: saying it meaning the bill nothing more than another tool
1:10:15
Speaker 1: for Trump to hurt federal workers and American families and
1:10:18
Speaker 1: to keep this shutdown going on for as long as
1:10:20
Speaker 1: he wants. We will not give Donald Trump a license
1:10:23
Speaker 1: to play politics with people's livelihoods. That's why we oppose this.
1:10:27
Speaker 1: Does that make any sense to you consider what was proposed,
1:10:30
Speaker 1: not at all, it's exactly the opposite. He makes two
1:10:34
Speaker 1: cases and they contradict each other. He said, this is
1:10:38
Speaker 1: a tool to hurt people. It's a tool to pay people.
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Speaker 8: I don't think anyone ever feels hurt when they get paid,
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Speaker 8: do you, Brian.
1:10:44
Speaker 1: No, absolutely, it's an expectation, honestly, right.
1:10:48
Speaker 8: And he says this is a tool to hurt the
1:10:50
Speaker 8: American people in what way? And that's the other thing.
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Speaker 8: He makes these comments, and no one says, how is
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Speaker 8: paying people hurting? And no one asked that more fundly
1:11:02
Speaker 8: paying people who are still working. This isn't somebody who's
1:11:06
Speaker 8: non essential in sitting at home contemplating their navel or
1:11:09
Speaker 8: playing you know, candy Crush or whatever on their app
1:11:12
Speaker 8: These are people that are actually going on and most
1:11:14
Speaker 8: notably some of the hardest work.
1:11:15
Speaker 1: That's being done. ICE agents on the front line are
1:11:18
Speaker 1: off essentially like in the middle of a combat zone,
1:11:21
Speaker 1: and they're there and they're not getting paid. Now, we
1:11:23
Speaker 1: all know that it's just accruing that they will get
1:11:25
Speaker 1: paid once the government opens up, if it does, But
1:11:27
Speaker 1: how about getting these very very loyal and valuable people
1:11:30
Speaker 1: paid right now.
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Speaker 8: Especially them, because you do have people that are sitting
1:11:34
Speaker 8: at home, not by their own desire, but they are.
1:11:37
Speaker 8: And what always happens in one of these shutdowns is
1:11:40
Speaker 8: you retrospectively, you pay them, and you pay them for
1:11:43
Speaker 8: not working for a month or however long it last. Yes,
1:11:46
Speaker 8: I went through this in thirteen. You know, I thought
1:11:48
Speaker 8: we were on the right side of things. Yeah, shut
1:11:50
Speaker 8: down the government. Well you find out pretty quickly how
1:11:53
Speaker 8: even your friends and loyal constituents are upset because if
1:11:58
Speaker 8: services they can't get, if they need their pay, sport
1:12:00
Speaker 8: to go travel, if they have a problem with Social Security,
1:12:03
Speaker 8: the irs, and all these things are shut down, and
1:12:05
Speaker 8: you learn you start opening them up. And so this
1:12:08
Speaker 8: is what they're trying to do here, right Let's open
1:12:10
Speaker 8: up this. Let's just open this up right now and
1:12:13
Speaker 8: pay these people. And he says, no, I don't know.
1:12:16
Speaker 8: This is a bizarre time in American history. And I
1:12:19
Speaker 8: hope that enough people understand what is taking place here,
1:12:22
Speaker 8: because this is the mentality of like an AOC. You
1:12:26
Speaker 8: expect comments like that sure out of AOC because that's
1:12:30
Speaker 8: who and what she has been, And you.
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Speaker 1: Don't really, at least historically up until recent history, you
1:12:35
Speaker 1: wouldn't expect.
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Speaker 8: That out of a guy like Chuck Schumer, right, But
1:12:38
Speaker 8: now his back is against the wall, right because AOC
1:12:42
Speaker 8: is I'm going to run for Senate. I'm going to
1:12:44
Speaker 8: I might run for Senate. And then he knows this
1:12:47
Speaker 8: and so he has to out AOC AOC.
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Speaker 1: So he's capitulated to the far left wing of the party.
1:12:53
Speaker 1: If Chucky Schumer will say previously, I guess comparatively to
1:12:59
Speaker 1: now a voice of reason, I mean, that's hard to come.
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Speaker 10: Out of my mouth.
1:13:03
Speaker 1: Well, it's called his prior position within the Democratic Party
1:13:06
Speaker 1: somewhat reasonable, maybe in the center. He is now at
1:13:11
Speaker 1: least acknowledging his capitulation to this far left wing. So
1:13:15
Speaker 1: there is no more practical centrist right side of the
1:13:19
Speaker 1: eighty twenty issue Democrats anymore.
1:13:22
Speaker 8: No, it doesn't say maybe a betterment, Yeah, exactly, and
1:13:25
Speaker 8: probably the last person we thought who would be there. No,
1:13:29
Speaker 8: that's you know, you just never know what you're going
1:13:32
Speaker 8: to get, right, Yeah, But it's it's very interesting that
1:13:35
Speaker 8: they're just carrying this on and the shutdown is the way,
1:13:38
Speaker 8: and you know, people have got to understand, especially those
1:13:42
Speaker 8: that are suffering from this, need to say, like why
1:13:44
Speaker 8: are you doing this, Not only that you said something
1:13:47
Speaker 8: when you open this up, it's the Biden era policies
1:13:50
Speaker 8: that are still in place, you know, and Republicans want
1:13:54
Speaker 8: to go through normal appropriations process where the government is
1:13:57
Speaker 8: a function. As our founder said, set it up that
1:14:01
Speaker 8: we the people are going to determine what we spend
1:14:03
Speaker 8: money on, et cetera, et cetera, and said, continuing resolution
1:14:07
Speaker 8: just keeps ongoing what's already in place without a discussion. Basically, right,
1:14:11
Speaker 8: you're not going to fix things that need to be fixed.
1:14:14
Speaker 8: You're not going to get rid of things that don't
1:14:16
Speaker 8: need to be there.
1:14:17
Speaker 1: Which is why Massy voted no on it because it
1:14:19
Speaker 1: didn't contain cuts. He wanted substantial cuts in the CR,
1:14:22
Speaker 1: and the Republicans said, collectively, as a chess game strategy, no, no, no, no,
1:14:26
Speaker 1: we're going to keep that. We're not going to give
1:14:27
Speaker 1: them any reason to complain. It's their level. I get
1:14:32
Speaker 1: the math and the strategy for doing that. I'm obviously
1:14:35
Speaker 1: with Massy on wishing that there were some cuts in
1:14:37
Speaker 1: the CR, but we're not getting either.
1:14:39
Speaker 8: So this doesn't mean, well, we all wish there were cuts,
1:14:42
Speaker 8: I mean, but we're living with a government today and
1:14:44
Speaker 8: in America today, where they're a large swath of America
1:14:48
Speaker 8: really doesn't care that we're going into more debt. I mean,
1:14:52
Speaker 8: one of the things I always tried to say when
1:14:54
Speaker 8: you look at any bill is will this bill make
1:14:56
Speaker 8: Americans more free? And will the next generation say thank you?
1:15:00
Speaker 10: You?
1:15:00
Speaker 8: And when you're putting the next generation in further and
1:15:03
Speaker 8: further debt, how would they possibly say thank you? And
1:15:06
Speaker 8: that's where that's where Thomas is and I get that,
1:15:10
Speaker 8: but strategically, because half of America is that way. If
1:15:14
Speaker 8: you want to get anything done and say that you
1:15:18
Speaker 8: have a government that can actually function on behalf of
1:15:21
Speaker 8: the American people, you have to keep it open. And
1:15:24
Speaker 8: so you think, okay, let's continue these debates. But the
1:15:28
Speaker 8: thing is they're arguing about the subsidies for insurance companies
1:15:33
Speaker 8: that aren't making anyone else healthier. I mean, that's the thing.
1:15:37
Speaker 8: It's just insurance companies while it's getting healthier, And that's
1:15:41
Speaker 8: what they're arguing for that they want to keep those
1:15:43
Speaker 8: subsidies going when you know, this is just an entity
1:15:47
Speaker 8: that denies and delays your care anyway. It's not like
1:15:50
Speaker 8: those subsidies suddenly make America healthier, you know, make America
1:15:55
Speaker 8: healthy again, right, healthiest nation on the planet is we
1:15:58
Speaker 8: were calling it before Maha came around. Well, you know
1:16:01
Speaker 8: this is this is absurd. And not only that, the
1:16:04
Speaker 8: CR continues those subsidies for the time being. What what
1:16:11
Speaker 8: what are you fighting for?
1:16:13
Speaker 1: The expiration date is this year. Based upon the Democrats legislation,
1:16:19
Speaker 1: they put the end date for the subsidies this counter year, December.
1:16:24
Speaker 1: They own that they can't deny it. They saw this
1:16:27
Speaker 1: coming for miles and miles away. They presumed that this
1:16:30
Speaker 1: current president would not be president. They presumed that their
1:16:33
Speaker 1: guy or gals the case may be last minute which
1:16:36
Speaker 1: was going to take over office, that Democrats would regain
1:16:38
Speaker 1: retain control, and that they would then vote in these
1:16:41
Speaker 1: subsidies as permanent. It didn't work out the way they
1:16:44
Speaker 1: thought it was going to work out, but they still
1:16:45
Speaker 1: own the end date. Let's deliver on it.
1:16:47
Speaker 8: And they sold it as we need to do this
1:16:50
Speaker 8: because of COVID.
1:16:50
Speaker 1: COVID a great point and needed to be made seven fifteen.
1:16:54
Speaker 1: Right now more with citizen private citizen Brad, weinstrip on
1:16:58
Speaker 1: more topics. We'll talk the ceasefire agreement. We'll talk about
1:17:01
Speaker 1: the mainstream media. We've got a variety of other things
1:17:03
Speaker 1: to speak of. Stick around for the full hour fifty
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Speaker 1: Brad Winster, former Congressman, in studio going through the issues.
1:17:19
Speaker 1: He's been there, done that, and speaks from authority and
1:17:22
Speaker 1: knowledge about the craziness that's going on real quick here
1:17:25
Speaker 1: insofar as the shutdown, Who's getting paid who's not getting paid?
1:17:29
Speaker 1: Question for you, Congressman former Congressman winsor is the CIA
1:17:33
Speaker 1: getting paid? We don't even know how much money they
1:17:35
Speaker 1: get every year. I don't if they're carved out. They're
1:17:37
Speaker 1: so secret. We don't even know what the American taxpayer
1:17:39
Speaker 1: spends running that organization. I bet they're getting paid. I'm
1:17:43
Speaker 1: just saying that you don't have to comment, mister security
1:17:46
Speaker 1: level clearance guy, if you can't speak to it, but.
1:17:50
Speaker 8: Well, I will say that where that is done, and
1:17:52
Speaker 8: this is a unique situation for sure, as far as
1:17:54
Speaker 8: who's getting paid what and what we're spending money on,
1:17:58
Speaker 8: and for good reason that is held you know you
1:18:01
Speaker 8: have that is held in the IAA. That's the Intelligence
1:18:04
Speaker 8: Authorization Act, which is secret.
1:18:07
Speaker 1: Well it is, there's.
1:18:07
Speaker 8: Covert operations, there's various things in there, and then it
1:18:12
Speaker 8: and usually that ends up being very bipartisan, and it's bipartisan.
1:18:17
Speaker 8: Members of the Intelligence Committee sure that talk to the
1:18:22
Speaker 8: other members of Congress and explain what the spending is.
1:18:26
Speaker 1: In every member of Congress and all the elected officials
1:18:29
Speaker 1: that yes, the CIA does indeed have a dossier on
1:18:32
Speaker 1: each and every one of them, and your damn well
1:18:33
Speaker 1: better approve their budget and what they asked for or
1:18:36
Speaker 1: they're going to leak the information out of the general public.
1:18:38
Speaker 1: I've heard suggestions along those lines before.
1:18:41
Speaker 8: Well, there certainly has been some nefarious behavior, especially as
1:18:44
Speaker 8: it related to January sixth, and you've seen a lot
1:18:46
Speaker 8: of that.
1:18:48
Speaker 1: Coming out here Edgar Hoover days.
1:18:49
Speaker 8: Yeah, the senators being investigated, and you know, I will
1:18:54
Speaker 8: say that what has happened is is I hope continues,
1:19:00
Speaker 8: at least in my time on Intelligence Committee, which I
1:19:02
Speaker 8: was on till I left in January, we're now going
1:19:05
Speaker 8: into the intelligence community. I think when I first started
1:19:08
Speaker 8: on that committee, you would have briefs and they would
1:19:11
Speaker 8: just come in and tell you stuff and now it's
1:19:13
Speaker 8: like no, no, no, we're telling you stuff. We want
1:19:16
Speaker 8: to work with you, and we want to approve what
1:19:19
Speaker 8: you're doing, and we want to know fully what you're doing.
1:19:22
Speaker 8: And you don't just get to come in here and
1:19:24
Speaker 8: say this is our policy and blah blah blah. No,
1:19:28
Speaker 8: we have oversight over you. And it's being much more
1:19:31
Speaker 8: active than it ever was.
1:19:33
Speaker 1: Good. It's good that you're certainly the oversight role because
1:19:36
Speaker 1: that's what you've been elected to do. This is our money,
1:19:39
Speaker 1: it's what we pay for. Are they doing things efficiently?
1:19:42
Speaker 1: Are they answering the right questions? Are they hiding? Are
1:19:44
Speaker 1: they committing to farious acts behind the scenes. I think
1:19:47
Speaker 1: we should all be entitled to know that kind of stuff.
1:19:49
Speaker 8: Brad Well, we started fencing money, Brian, because when they
1:19:52
Speaker 8: weren't telling us what we wanted to know. And this
1:19:54
Speaker 8: has to do with COVID and for example, the origins
1:19:59
Speaker 8: of COVID and the commission that Biden put out. And
1:20:03
Speaker 8: they came and said, it's our policy not to tell
1:20:05
Speaker 8: you who we talked to, and I said, no, no, no, now,
1:20:08
Speaker 8: this is our government. I just want you to know.
1:20:10
Speaker 8: You don't get to put a policy in place like that,
1:20:12
Speaker 8: And the reaction was the Director of National Intelligence called
1:20:15
Speaker 8: me two hours later because I said, by the way,
1:20:18
Speaker 8: we created your agency and we fund your agency. So
1:20:21
Speaker 8: she called me right away, and I'll never forget when
1:20:23
Speaker 8: I got some of the information I wanted. She said,
1:20:26
Speaker 8: do I get my ten million now? Because we started
1:20:29
Speaker 8: holding money back.
1:20:30
Speaker 1: Oh so it's not all bad.
1:20:33
Speaker 8: We're sometimes doing some things to improve the situation.
1:20:37
Speaker 1: All right, Well there's my I got my problems with
1:20:40
Speaker 1: the CIA out of my system on that one. So
1:20:42
Speaker 1: over to where do you want to go on this?
1:20:46
Speaker 1: I r s, well, we were going to talk peat fire.
1:20:49
Speaker 8: Yeah, just you know, and it can blend into a
1:20:52
Speaker 8: lot of things.
1:20:53
Speaker 1: Donald Trum Abraham Accords. I don't care about the Nobel
1:20:56
Speaker 1: Peace Prize, but someone's going to qualify a guy for
1:20:58
Speaker 1: the Nobel Peace Prizes. It's negotia peace with formerly basically
1:21:02
Speaker 1: warring Middle East countries and in Israel for centuries. He
1:21:06
Speaker 1: was able to successfully bring that about with a handful
1:21:08
Speaker 1: of the Arab nations. Wants to extend the Abraham Accords
1:21:12
Speaker 1: and negotiating peace with other countries. Now he's having great
1:21:14
Speaker 1: success doing that. In Lo and Behold, he gets at
1:21:16
Speaker 1: least phase one of a negotiated settlement between of all
1:21:19
Speaker 1: all people, Hamas and Israel. Everyone should have been celebrating that.
1:21:24
Speaker 1: I was very happy about that. I mean, Hamas, as
1:21:27
Speaker 1: far as I'm concerned, should be blown off the map
1:21:28
Speaker 1: because just for that, the October seventh murderous spree they
1:21:32
Speaker 1: went on. They're irredeemable. Fine, but you got to negotiate
1:21:36
Speaker 1: them because they run the territory, they represent the Palestinian
1:21:39
Speaker 1: people there. I just voted office. At some point he's
1:21:41
Speaker 1: able to bring about phase one. The world should be rejoicing.
1:21:44
Speaker 1: And I know it didn't take completely. There are factions
1:21:47
Speaker 1: within the Hamas community apparently who don't want to follow
1:21:50
Speaker 1: the lead. But it's a great step in the right direction.
1:21:54
Speaker 1: But he's getting no love for that.
1:21:55
Speaker 8: And he took the effort, you know, But what happens,
1:21:58
Speaker 8: what happens within the media today is nothing. You know,
1:22:02
Speaker 8: is one article said, it's crickets from the ceasefire now brigade.
1:22:06
Speaker 8: All the people screaming for a ceasefire. You know, everybody,
1:22:10
Speaker 8: both sides just yelling for ceasefire, ceasefire, more on the
1:22:13
Speaker 8: Israeli side. But at the same time, it gets done
1:22:17
Speaker 8: you get a ceasefire, and no one has anything to say.
1:22:21
Speaker 8: But Biden's former secretary of State said, oh, well, this
1:22:24
Speaker 8: was set up by what Biden put in place.
1:22:26
Speaker 1: What did he put in place? Nothing?
1:22:28
Speaker 8: He put nothing in place. He got no one back.
1:22:31
Speaker 8: You know, Blincoln was abysmal failure with what getting hostages
1:22:35
Speaker 8: out or anything like that. Nothing actually happened.
1:22:38
Speaker 1: Seventh was on I believe Biden's watch, brad Am, I
1:22:42
Speaker 1: remembering my history correctly, that's the slaughter of the Israeli
1:22:45
Speaker 1: grand grandparents and children and babies. That was Biden's administration. Yep,
1:22:53
Speaker 1: setting up that piece deal right there. And and what
1:22:58
Speaker 1: CNN said, Christian, I'm on poor. She said, well, the
1:23:04
Speaker 1: hostages were probably being treated better than the average gossen
1:23:07
Speaker 1: while they were in captivity.
1:23:09
Speaker 8: I mean, you've got to be kidding, Yeah, yeah, So
1:23:15
Speaker 8: how come they didn't all survive if they were being
1:23:17
Speaker 8: treated better? I mean, this is just really unbelievable.
1:23:20
Speaker 1: But this is what we're dealing with.
1:23:22
Speaker 8: I mean, Brian, you have listeners that pay attention, and
1:23:25
Speaker 8: you have listeners that you know are seeking the truth
1:23:28
Speaker 8: as much as anything else and not just going to
1:23:31
Speaker 8: mainstream media nodding their head and going, I guess.
1:23:34
Speaker 1: That's what it is.
1:23:35
Speaker 8: Or the biggest thing is the absence of information that
1:23:40
Speaker 8: the media doesn't put out.
1:23:42
Speaker 1: You know.
1:23:42
Speaker 8: And for example, I wonder how many people actually reported
1:23:46
Speaker 8: on the whistleblowers from the I R S that came
1:23:50
Speaker 8: forward about Hunter Biden and how he wasn't paying his
1:23:53
Speaker 8: taxes and his felonies and they got slammed.
1:23:57
Speaker 1: Let's pause from them. We can talk with some of
1:23:59
Speaker 1: the details on that as we uh here, we're at
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Speaker 1: Thomas with citizen Brad's winsterrip of former Congressan brad Winstrip
1:24:18
Speaker 1: security clearance and everything he's seen, it, been there, done,
1:24:20
Speaker 1: it knows where the skeletons are buried, where they're hanging,
1:24:22
Speaker 1: and can't tell us a lot of that stuff because
1:24:24
Speaker 1: he's a subject to privacy rules or something. Brad Winstrop
1:24:28
Speaker 1: just giving you a hard time. You were talking about
1:24:29
Speaker 1: the irs and when you mentioned it to me, off
1:24:31
Speaker 1: air earlier in this morning, when you talked about the whistleblowers,
1:24:36
Speaker 1: I immediately gravitated, as old as I am now to lowesst.
1:24:39
Speaker 1: Larner's weaponization of the IRS against conservative organizations. I mean,
1:24:44
Speaker 1: really brazen, brazen attacks on Republican conservative organizations. You know,
1:24:50
Speaker 1: it's just I can't believe that more people weren't mad
1:24:54
Speaker 1: about that kind of thing. You hit the weaponization of
1:24:56
Speaker 1: the Justice Department, or Eric Holder going after banks threatening
1:24:59
Speaker 1: him with a complying audits that they didn't quit doing
1:25:02
Speaker 1: legitimate business with legitimate licensed businesses. Those revelations, to me
1:25:07
Speaker 1: spoke volumes about the weaponization of these agencies against the
1:25:10
Speaker 1: American people for political to achieve political purposes. Now, if
1:25:15
Speaker 1: it was the it was some great if Congressman Thomas
1:25:20
Speaker 1: Massey or Senator Ranpaul had organized this on behalf of
1:25:23
Speaker 1: libertarian minded folks. So we're sticking in my wheelhouse here,
1:25:26
Speaker 1: something I would. You know, the idea that people turn
1:25:28
Speaker 1: libertarian is great, But if they weaponized any of those
1:25:31
Speaker 1: agencies to serve my political ends, I'd be mad as
1:25:35
Speaker 1: hell about it, as much as I have about anyone
1:25:38
Speaker 1: who was able to weaponize these agencies. It delegitimizes the
1:25:41
Speaker 1: American government period, and that creates a disrupting force in America.
1:25:47
Speaker 1: If you don't trust your government, Uh, what are you
1:25:50
Speaker 1: fighting for? That's right, and we had that continuation. Though
1:25:55
Speaker 1: this issue you're gonna mention with the war was post
1:25:58
Speaker 1: lawis Lerner this a little.
1:26:00
Speaker 8: Bit, but it tells you how long this type of
1:26:03
Speaker 8: attitude has existed. Yes, that you may know in your
1:26:07
Speaker 8: mind what's right and wrong, but if you find a
1:26:10
Speaker 8: way to justify what you were doing. See, it's sort
1:26:13
Speaker 8: of like the communist rule. And that's where I think
1:26:17
Speaker 8: the left is going today obviously, but it's like it's
1:26:20
Speaker 8: not it's not a lie if it benefits.
1:26:24
Speaker 1: The party, because is okay if it serves our ends.
1:26:27
Speaker 8: Yes, because it because we know what's best for the country,
1:26:30
Speaker 8: and it's not good for the country. If Hunter Biden
1:26:34
Speaker 8: is actually committing crimes and it's revealed, because that's really
1:26:38
Speaker 8: what happened, and he was committing crimes. I mean, if
1:26:41
Speaker 8: you if you think about what was taking place, you know,
1:26:45
Speaker 8: and what was later discovered and I was there House Republicans,
1:26:49
Speaker 8: we found Hunter Biden and his associates hauled in twenty
1:26:53
Speaker 8: seven million from foreign service, foreign sources during and after
1:26:58
Speaker 8: Joe Biden's vice president see and this money was coming
1:27:01
Speaker 8: from individuals and companies in Ukraine, Romania, China, oligarchs, oligarchs.
1:27:09
Speaker 8: Joe Biden on his way out of the door said,
1:27:11
Speaker 8: Trump's going to run the country by oligarchs. Well, you
1:27:14
Speaker 8: know what, if he does, at least they'll be American oligarchs.
1:27:19
Speaker 8: And therein lies a huge difference because you know, hopefully
1:27:23
Speaker 8: we're seeing our oligarchs working towards the benefit of America
1:27:27
Speaker 8: and not for self interest only.
1:27:30
Speaker 1: So well, their self interest can work in the benefit
1:27:32
Speaker 1: of American people. I point to the data centers. You
1:27:34
Speaker 1: get these massive, multi, multi billion billion dollar corporations like
1:27:38
Speaker 1: alphabet They need energy and they can afford to buy
1:27:42
Speaker 1: their own small modular reactors. They can build them themselves.
1:27:45
Speaker 1: They can deliver to the American people with our elected
1:27:47
Speaker 1: officials refuse to give us, which is small footprint, abundant,
1:27:52
Speaker 1: unlimited power to serve our needs and needs of these
1:27:56
Speaker 1: big oligarch companies, evil as they may be, they're going
1:27:59
Speaker 1: to deliver on that point in my lifetime. And that's
1:28:01
Speaker 1: a great thing.
1:28:02
Speaker 8: Well, the private sector is going to need to do
1:28:04
Speaker 8: more and more, and we can talk.
1:28:06
Speaker 1: On that well free. So the regulatory burden out here
1:28:08
Speaker 1: in the private sector we will.
1:28:10
Speaker 8: But the but these whistleblowers came forward and they just
1:28:14
Speaker 8: got beaten down by media and by the irs itself.
1:28:20
Speaker 8: I mean the people that were coming forward. For example,
1:28:24
Speaker 8: they know the difference between right and wrong.
1:28:26
Speaker 1: Right making a democrat he kiss all the checkbox for
1:28:29
Speaker 1: the woke agenda in his rest exactly.
1:28:32
Speaker 8: And he stood there he said, he said, look, I
1:28:35
Speaker 8: am a Democrat, I am gay, but there's right and wrong.
1:28:40
Speaker 8: And I was doing my job. And the other gentleman
1:28:43
Speaker 8: was a Republican, and they said, we were doing our job.
1:28:46
Speaker 8: We were discovering what was taking place. We discovered the felonies,
1:28:49
Speaker 8: We discovered the tax faults of Hunter Biden.
1:28:53
Speaker 1: He was paying his taxes on the millions that he
1:28:55
Speaker 1: was taken in from the oligarchs.
1:28:57
Speaker 8: So he wasn't paying these taxes. And they were told
1:29:01
Speaker 8: to stand down, and then they came forward as whistleblowers
1:29:04
Speaker 8: and then they're being berated and they were told to
1:29:07
Speaker 8: either resign or accept a lesser position. And all of
1:29:12
Speaker 8: this was going on. They testified in front of our committee,
1:29:15
Speaker 8: and it is really amazing. Now they have a settlement,
1:29:19
Speaker 8: and that's why it's in the news, and that's why
1:29:20
Speaker 8: I wanted to bring it up today because it's in
1:29:22
Speaker 8: the news that they got their settlement and from the
1:29:25
Speaker 8: IRS and from the DOJ for illegal retaliation against them
1:29:30
Speaker 8: as whistleblowers. But they also said there needs to be
1:29:35
Speaker 8: a requirement this is part of the settlement for new
1:29:38
Speaker 8: training for federal prosecutors. That's part of their settlement. Like you, now,
1:29:43
Speaker 8: we have to teach right and wrong, and that's part
1:29:46
Speaker 8: of the settlement. I mean, it's a good thing. I
1:29:49
Speaker 8: credit them for doing that. And what the Trump administration
1:29:52
Speaker 8: did for them is actually promoted them within the IRS,
1:29:56
Speaker 8: because these are the type of people you want to
1:29:59
Speaker 8: have in the IR because right is right and wrong
1:30:02
Speaker 8: is wrong, and we have to drum out the lowest learners.
1:30:06
Speaker 8: And all these other people that have been in these
1:30:08
Speaker 8: agencies been there a long time, Brian. They know that
1:30:12
Speaker 8: they can wait out any administration and if they can
1:30:15
Speaker 8: make things, you know, water under the bridge, then then
1:30:19
Speaker 8: so be it. And you know, this ties into what
1:30:22
Speaker 8: Taulsea Gaber did by the Trump administration taking away the
1:30:26
Speaker 8: security clearances of the fifty one people that signed the
1:30:30
Speaker 8: letter saying that Hunter's laptop was Russian disinformation. It looks
1:30:35
Speaker 8: like Russian disinformation, carefully worded, right, But they never checked.
1:30:39
Speaker 8: They never went and looked. And what we discovered is
1:30:43
Speaker 8: that they were told, we're doing this to help Joe
1:30:47
Speaker 8: Biden in his debate against Donald Trump.
1:30:49
Speaker 1: And after long after the FBI had already determined that
1:30:54
Speaker 1: the Hunter Biden laptop was in fact authentic. That was
1:30:57
Speaker 1: information known to the FBI when that let came out.
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Speaker 1: talk station. Citizen Brad Webster, former congressman in studio going
1:31:14
Speaker 1: through all the issues. And I had had to go
1:31:18
Speaker 1: at the CIA earlier, sort of a tongue in cheek
1:31:20
Speaker 1: kind of go but I figured they were getting paid
1:31:21
Speaker 1: during the shutdown regardless, And moving forward, I saw John Brannan.
1:31:26
Speaker 1: His name's made it back in the news. It has.
1:31:30
Speaker 8: He's been referred by House Republicans for allegedly lying to
1:31:35
Speaker 8: Congress about the Steele dossier. But if you follow the
1:31:39
Speaker 8: statements that he made. And then what you discover that
1:31:42
Speaker 8: the CIA and the FBI did with it. For example,
1:31:47
Speaker 8: with the Steele Dassian, they put it in their Intelligence
1:31:50
Speaker 8: Community Assessment, in spite of high level CIA officials saying, no,
1:31:57
Speaker 8: this thing is unbeverified. There's we got here and they
1:32:01
Speaker 8: knew where it came from. Also, yeah, and you should
1:32:04
Speaker 8: not be putting this in the assessment. And but lo
1:32:08
Speaker 8: and behold that they did. And you know, so he's
1:32:12
Speaker 8: kind of trapped with the things that he has said.
1:32:14
Speaker 8: And he said that the CIA was not involved at
1:32:16
Speaker 8: all with the Stil Dassie.
1:32:20
Speaker 1: You forgot about that pesky paper trail, didn't he?
1:32:22
Speaker 8: I guess he did. And you know, but like you said,
1:32:25
Speaker 8: the thing has many flaws. We can't verify it. But
1:32:28
Speaker 8: you know, the agency, the agencies are such the authoritarian
1:32:32
Speaker 8: threat to democracy. That's that's our problem. You know, no
1:32:36
Speaker 8: one voted for people in the agency right at all,
1:32:40
Speaker 8: and they sit there longer. That's where we need term limits.
1:32:43
Speaker 8: By the way is, you know, people should be there
1:32:45
Speaker 8: just like the military. You serve and when your time comes,
1:32:48
Speaker 8: you move on. If you're not promoted to get out.
1:32:51
Speaker 8: I've said that many times. But still in all you
1:32:54
Speaker 8: can see the power that they wield and they're doing
1:32:57
Speaker 8: things for political purposes because they didn't want Donald Trump.
1:33:03
Speaker 8: They don't like Donald Trump, and therefore these actions continue
1:33:07
Speaker 8: to be taken. So now you have you know, Tulsea
1:33:10
Speaker 8: Geberd and she is leading the charge to look into
1:33:14
Speaker 8: the weaposition of government. There's an interagency Weaponization working Group,
1:33:20
Speaker 8: and they're looking back at everything and looking at the
1:33:23
Speaker 8: things that were done, especially during the last four years
1:33:26
Speaker 8: under the Biden administration, and the conduct that took place
1:33:29
Speaker 8: in there. I mean, it's pretty interesting when you start
1:33:32
Speaker 8: finding things in burn bags that we're supposed to have
1:33:35
Speaker 8: been burned and destroyed, and you're getting a lot of information.
1:33:39
Speaker 8: Maybe somebody left a gift, or maybe it's a god
1:33:41
Speaker 8: thing that wants America and the American people to have
1:33:46
Speaker 8: truth in things. But you know, Brian, there's a big
1:33:48
Speaker 8: difference between law, fair weaponization, revenge, and actual truth and justice,
1:33:57
Speaker 8: which used to be the American.
1:33:59
Speaker 1: Way, and no greater illustration of that. We can talk
1:34:01
Speaker 1: about the impeachment here. He's we talked of the allegations
1:34:03
Speaker 1: predicated upon a lie, the Steele dossier, that of course
1:34:06
Speaker 1: was whole cloth created by the Democratic Party and handed
1:34:10
Speaker 1: over and of course then leaked because it was in
1:34:12
Speaker 1: fact attached to that CIA assessment, even though the agent
1:34:15
Speaker 1: said it had no basis in truth or fact. It
1:34:18
Speaker 1: was attached for the purpose of getting it leaked to
1:34:20
Speaker 1: the press. That's how we all came to realize it
1:34:23
Speaker 1: was even a Steele dossier out in the world. And
1:34:24
Speaker 1: then it was pedaled as absolute truth. Oh, Donald Trump's
1:34:27
Speaker 1: over there urinating off prostitutes or something. Now some fill
1:34:30
Speaker 1: in the black fec non compliant word made that up.
1:34:34
Speaker 1: So we're living under the umbrella of those lies, repeated
1:34:39
Speaker 1: over and over again. So and it was first they
1:34:43
Speaker 1: created all of this in an effort to Brennan from
1:34:45
Speaker 1: getting elected, and then after being elected, they used all
1:34:48
Speaker 1: of this to undermine anything he was trying to do
1:34:51
Speaker 1: during his first presidency, so they failed to keep him
1:34:55
Speaker 1: out of office, and then continued the lie to subject
1:34:58
Speaker 1: him to impeachment hearings. But go over to New York
1:35:02
Speaker 1: where he's being prosecuted for overinflating the value of his
1:35:05
Speaker 1: real estate. That to me is number one. I even
1:35:07
Speaker 1: talked about that with Eric Trump about his new book,
1:35:09
Speaker 1: and I brought it up because I'm so glad you
1:35:11
Speaker 1: brought that up, he said. Nobody ever asked me about that,
1:35:14
Speaker 1: because I know about the litigation. These are sophisticated parties
1:35:19
Speaker 1: to the contract. Donald Trump says, I want to borrow money.
1:35:23
Speaker 1: The bank one of the biggest banks in the world.
1:35:25
Speaker 1: They have their own real estate evaluation team. They can
1:35:28
Speaker 1: know what something is or isn't. They don't have to
1:35:30
Speaker 1: take his word for it, and who would. So they
1:35:34
Speaker 1: loan him the money. They're paid back interest. In all,
1:35:37
Speaker 1: he's one of their best customers. They testified in court
1:35:40
Speaker 1: there was no damage. This wasn't even a justiciable controversy,
1:35:45
Speaker 1: and yet he ultimately was found guilty. That just to me,
1:35:48
Speaker 1: was the greatest illustration of actual lawfare charges predicated on nothing.
1:35:54
Speaker 8: Look, every homeowner knows what an appraiser does. Yeah right,
1:35:58
Speaker 8: I mean, this isn't Donald Trump setting a value. There
1:36:01
Speaker 8: are appraisers, and banks are going to rely on appraisers.
1:36:05
Speaker 1: Thanks are going to rely on their own appraisers. That's
1:36:07
Speaker 1: what I mean. Yeah, yeah, So, and again they got
1:36:12
Speaker 1: the benefit of the contractual bar and willowon X at
1:36:15
Speaker 1: this interest rate. He paid back X with the interest.
1:36:19
Speaker 1: Great customers do that. He didn't fall behind, he didn't
1:36:22
Speaker 1: breach the contracts. It's not an issue, it's not a
1:36:26
Speaker 1: justiciable controversy, and yet he was found guilty on that.
1:36:29
Speaker 1: It's just that shows you how corrupt the court system
1:36:32
Speaker 1: is in New York as well as the Attorney General.
1:36:35
Speaker 8: Well, and that's why attorneys are always fighting for the
1:36:37
Speaker 8: right venue and hopefully they'll get a fair shake somewhere.
1:36:41
Speaker 8: You know, we're kind of, I think overall lucky to
1:36:44
Speaker 8: be in the Midwest. I don't know about Hamilton County. Yeah,
1:36:48
Speaker 8: well anymore, but I'm glad you qualified that. Yes, the
1:36:51
Speaker 8: elections coming up, early voting going on, make sure you
1:36:53
Speaker 8: have selected the appropriate judges, which include Judge Berkowitz. Sticking around,
1:36:57
Speaker 8: we got one more with Congressman wins Or former Congressman Went.
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Speaker 8: It's seven forty five right now, fifty five karsee talk
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Speaker 1: Ready to get your carpets of parsee the talk station.
1:37:10
Speaker 10: Friday.
1:37:10
Speaker 1: And before we get back to brad Winstrip in the studio,
1:37:14
Speaker 1: former Congressman, We're going to talk to Officer Tivity Green
1:37:16
Speaker 1: for the Cincinnai Police defarment. God bless them and all
1:37:18
Speaker 1: they do for the city. We're going to catch ourselves
1:37:20
Speaker 1: a bad guy, actually bad girl the week. Tiffany Green,
1:37:23
Speaker 1: Welcome back, Happy Friday, Good morning, So bad girl this week?
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Speaker 1: Are we looking for?
1:37:30
Speaker 7: Cincinnati Police District three is looking for Yolanda Bellomo. Miz
1:37:34
Speaker 7: Bellamo is warning for a felony escape and misdemeanor set
1:37:37
Speaker 7: on August fourteenth and twenty twenty five. Miss Bellamo normally
1:37:41
Speaker 7: walked away from the University of Cincinnati Medical Center Hospital
1:37:46
Speaker 7: before being placed back into police custy for her original charge.
1:37:49
Speaker 7: Assess Yolanda BelOMO is a female White. She's forty eight
1:37:53
Speaker 7: years old, five ten and one hundred and seventy pounds.
1:37:57
Speaker 7: Yolanda Bellomo has a history. Assess last now to live
1:38:01
Speaker 7: on Sabledor Street in Mount Washington, off the Green.
1:38:04
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1:38:06
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1:38:08
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1:38:11
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1:38:21
Speaker 1: Officer Green, thank you for all that you do. On
1:38:23
Speaker 1: behalf of the City of Cincinnati. God bless the police department,
1:38:25
Speaker 1: and I hope you have a fantastic weekend. We'll be
1:38:28
Speaker 1: looking for her pictures on my blog page fifty five
1:38:30
Speaker 1: KRC dot com. Back to Brad Webster. Up, Brad, what
1:38:35
Speaker 1: are we going to conclude on? What topics you want
1:38:37
Speaker 1: to go over in this final segment here with my listeners.
1:38:39
Speaker 8: On the Well, you know, I think there's a lot
1:38:41
Speaker 8: of things we can talk about, things that I'm still
1:38:44
Speaker 8: working on, or things with biotech. I think we're in
1:38:48
Speaker 8: a we're in a position, Brian in a way where
1:38:51
Speaker 8: we have to advance ourselves. And it's kind of like
1:38:54
Speaker 8: pre World War Two if you if you think about it,
1:38:57
Speaker 8: you know, we were kind of isolationists that time, and
1:39:01
Speaker 8: Germany was just going forward with advanced engineering and all
1:39:04
Speaker 8: types of things that made him a dominant force. And
1:39:07
Speaker 8: I think that we're in that kind of a situation
1:39:09
Speaker 8: with China today, and so I think we're going to
1:39:12
Speaker 8: see a lot of private industry working with government to
1:39:17
Speaker 8: try and advance as there's a National National Security Commission
1:39:22
Speaker 8: on Emerging Biotech and you can see what they've done online.
1:39:26
Speaker 8: There's an unclassified version and it makes a lot of suggestions,
1:39:31
Speaker 8: and I would recommend all people to be thinking about
1:39:35
Speaker 8: what it is out there that we need to go.
1:39:37
Speaker 8: You were talking before about energy and AI and things
1:39:39
Speaker 8: like that. We have to be forward thinking like this
1:39:42
Speaker 8: stuff because it's here to stay and we want to
1:39:44
Speaker 8: be the dominant factor.
1:39:46
Speaker 1: We know anything by way that you can measure something
1:39:48
Speaker 1: that would be called success or failure. Donald Trump is
1:39:51
Speaker 1: bringing in some very successful outcomes, one of which is
1:39:54
Speaker 1: you saw the literally billions and billions of dollars of
1:39:57
Speaker 1: commitments from a variety of different pharmaceutical companies to build
1:40:00
Speaker 1: new facilities, to hire new people, develop drugs here in
1:40:04
Speaker 1: the United States, manufacture them here in the United States.
1:40:07
Speaker 1: That is a painful lesson we all woke up to
1:40:09
Speaker 1: out of COVID nineteen Jeez, Louise, our entire military, including
1:40:13
Speaker 1: the American population or all reliant upon China for pharmaceuticals.
1:40:16
Speaker 1: If we got in a fighting war, do you think
1:40:18
Speaker 1: they deliver our pharmaceutical request?
1:40:20
Speaker 6: Well?
1:40:21
Speaker 8: Right, And that's one of the things the tools they
1:40:23
Speaker 8: have in their chest is they cut it off. CEO
1:40:26
Speaker 8: in Europe said, if they cut us off, our shelves
1:40:28
Speaker 8: are empty in two months, right, I mean that's you know,
1:40:32
Speaker 8: I asked the question, you know, as a as a soldier,
1:40:35
Speaker 8: how did our military let this happen that we rely
1:40:39
Speaker 8: on an enemy. Well, we're addressing it today, but we've
1:40:41
Speaker 8: got to make a lot of changes. And this is
1:40:43
Speaker 8: the type of stuff that Donald Trump can orchestrate that
1:40:48
Speaker 8: we've got to do these types of things, and here's
1:40:50
Speaker 8: how we're going to go about doing it. But it
1:40:52
Speaker 8: all comes down even to the active pharmaceutical ingredients. It's
1:40:55
Speaker 8: not just making them, it's they control what goes into them.
1:40:58
Speaker 8: Now that's the problem with batteries and rare earth. And
1:41:02
Speaker 8: so you're seeing that address more and more, and this
1:41:05
Speaker 8: is where the private sector is going to come into play.
1:41:08
Speaker 8: But I did like something that was said in the
1:41:11
Speaker 8: Wall Street Journal over the weekend. He said, if you
1:41:13
Speaker 8: hate Trump, maybe you just hate the times we live in.
1:41:17
Speaker 8: For Trump is the zeitgeist on a golf cart. And
1:41:20
Speaker 8: we were talking about that off the air. He's the
1:41:23
Speaker 8: person for the time and we are in a different time.
1:41:26
Speaker 8: You know, Ronald Reagan was my favorite and just a hero.
1:41:30
Speaker 8: But this is a different time, and Trump is adjusting
1:41:34
Speaker 8: to the times that we're living in and where technology
1:41:38
Speaker 8: is and where social media is and what needs to
1:41:41
Speaker 8: be done, and everyone was concerned about him being an
1:41:44
Speaker 8: isolationist who's making the peace deals, you know, Gaza, he
1:41:49
Speaker 8: got a ceasefire with Iran in Israel.
1:41:51
Speaker 1: And well, blowing up cartel boats in the international waters
1:41:54
Speaker 1: two thousand miles away is not being isolationist. And I've
1:41:57
Speaker 1: got a real problem with that, Congressman. I think Irish people,
1:42:00
Speaker 1: the elected officials, should have some say over who were
1:42:04
Speaker 1: dropping bombs on That is an act of war. I
1:42:06
Speaker 1: don't care that they're evil people being targeted. They're going
1:42:09
Speaker 1: to make it to internet. They're going to make it
1:42:10
Speaker 1: to US waters at some point. If you can track
1:42:12
Speaker 1: them in a submarine and find it in fifteen hundred
1:42:15
Speaker 1: miles away, I think you can keep attrack of it
1:42:17
Speaker 1: until it gets into US waters. Sorry, man, I just
1:42:20
Speaker 1: I cannot abide that.
1:42:22
Speaker 8: Well, that's an argument that can be made. But if
1:42:25
Speaker 8: you're taking the approach that this is these are terrorists
1:42:29
Speaker 8: than they are. I mean, you know, we went to
1:42:32
Speaker 8: war for twenty years after nine to eleven when three
1:42:34
Speaker 8: thousand people died, sadly, but we've had over one hundred
1:42:39
Speaker 8: thousand between eighteen and forty five dying of overdoses for
1:42:42
Speaker 8: the last several years, until the Trump administered.
1:42:44
Speaker 1: A situation over which those individuals had a choice and control.
1:42:48
Speaker 1: We had no choice in getting bombed on nine to eleven. Well,
1:42:51
Speaker 1: it's out of our hands. If somebody wants to use drugs,
1:42:54
Speaker 1: they're the problem.
1:42:56
Speaker 8: You got me there. I mean, I agree with you
1:42:58
Speaker 8: on that. But when you think you're taking something else.
1:43:01
Speaker 1: That's a different story. You're being duped. You're out buying
1:43:05
Speaker 1: drugs on the street. It's gonna have fentanyl in it.
1:43:07
Speaker 1: We've all learned that by now. Everything on the street,
1:43:10
Speaker 1: from cocaine to something you think is an oxyconton tablet,
1:43:14
Speaker 1: it's gonna have fentanyl in it. That's full, foretold, fore warned.
1:43:18
Speaker 8: So and that's why there's education hopefully taking place in
1:43:23
Speaker 8: high schools, et cetera. Is like, I mean, I'm talking
1:43:26
Speaker 8: to my kids and it's like, no, you don't take
1:43:29
Speaker 8: anything from anybody else.
1:43:31
Speaker 1: Period, only for mom and dad. Amen. Sound advice. Then again,
1:43:35
Speaker 1: you're a parent who cares about the future of their children,
1:43:37
Speaker 1: and you are who you know, make their lives important better.
1:43:41
Speaker 1: You probably are raising them with ethics and morals and
1:43:43
Speaker 1: trying to get them and guide them to make lots
1:43:45
Speaker 1: little rationals. The world doesn't enough, but cue like families
1:43:49
Speaker 1: that I grew up in. That's the biggest link weekly
1:43:52
Speaker 1: in the chain, is the really clear family.
1:43:54
Speaker 10: Man.
1:43:55
Speaker 1: I hate to end on that point, but I really
1:43:56
Speaker 1: had to make it because it's I mean, you keep
1:43:58
Speaker 1: going back. People are looking for government solutions for problems
1:44:01
Speaker 1: that start literally in the home. And if that home
1:44:05
Speaker 1: line structure had changed and people cared more about their
1:44:08
Speaker 1: own children, we wouldn't have a nation full of dependence.
1:44:11
Speaker 8: It's the same with health and everything else. And you've
1:44:13
Speaker 8: got to start early. And you know, you talk about
1:44:17
Speaker 8: you know DEI. You can't put someone in med school
1:44:20
Speaker 8: at twenty two that isn't prepared for it. You got
1:44:23
Speaker 8: to start with getting them a good education in grade
1:44:25
Speaker 8: school and high school and then college.
1:44:28
Speaker 1: Those are the building blocks the foundation to be a doctor.
1:44:31
Speaker 1: You see, now, you just scared the living crap out
1:44:33
Speaker 1: of me. Right there a nation full of doctors that
1:44:36
Speaker 1: grew up and were educated in a woke DEI environment
1:44:40
Speaker 1: filled with great inflation. Oh that's comforting, Brad Webster. I
1:44:44
Speaker 1: hate to leave on that end note, but it's true.
1:44:46
Speaker 1: So we'll take better care of yourself. You probably want
1:44:50
Speaker 1: end up in front of a doctor, folks. Sarah Heringer
1:44:52
Speaker 1: is going to join me in studio, coming up after
1:44:54
Speaker 1: the top of the hour news. I hope you know.
1:44:56
Speaker 1: Sarah is a widow. Her husband was killed in their
1:44:58
Speaker 1: over the Right apartment. He was supposed to have an
1:45:01
Speaker 1: ankle monitor on and we've all found out, Yeah, that
1:45:03
Speaker 1: ankle monitor program six to fifty five KRC DE talk station.
1:45:06
Speaker 1: By the time, I's wishing everyone a very happy Friday,
1:45:08
Speaker 1: We've got some great plans over the weekend. I think
1:45:10
Speaker 1: I'm gonna try to make it up to you see
1:45:12
Speaker 1: tomorrow for homecoming. And I am so pleased on the
1:45:15
Speaker 1: heels of having brad winstropin city to look up and see.
1:45:18
Speaker 1: Sarah Herringer has returned to the fifty five KRC studio
1:45:21
Speaker 1: to talk about the latest on what happened in the
1:45:24
Speaker 1: aftermath of her husband being murdered in front of her
1:45:26
Speaker 1: in there over the Rhine home and Sarah, it's such
1:45:29
Speaker 1: a pleasure to have you here. I know the circumstances
1:45:32
Speaker 1: are challenging and difficult, but you've been out there, You've
1:45:35
Speaker 1: been outspoken about this, your reality and circumstances resulted in
1:45:40
Speaker 1: a grand awakening. I think for most everybody, me particularly,
1:45:44
Speaker 1: I'll note I believe that an ankle monitor actually meant something.
1:45:49
Speaker 1: Mordisha Black, the thirty eight year old man who was
1:45:52
Speaker 1: charged with murdering your husband, was supposed to be on
1:45:55
Speaker 1: an ankle monitor. It was cut off and had been
1:45:57
Speaker 1: off since February, and this incident happened in was June's
1:46:00
Speaker 1: correct correct. So here he is rouman about and we're thinking,
1:46:03
Speaker 1: you know, oh my god, some alarm had to go
1:46:05
Speaker 1: off he cut his ankle monitor off. Nope, Nope, nobody
1:46:08
Speaker 1: was alerted.
1:46:09
Speaker 9: Yeah.
1:46:10
Speaker 1: So that I mean, if we got to find a
1:46:14
Speaker 1: silver lining in an unbelievably horrifically dark cloud. The one
1:46:19
Speaker 1: thing is that we now know that and that maybe
1:46:21
Speaker 1: something's going to be done about it in the form
1:46:23
Speaker 1: of this Patrick Herringer act that some some folks in
1:46:27
Speaker 1: Columbus are now pushing. But before we get to that,
1:46:30
Speaker 1: I just wanted to ask him, and I know my
1:46:32
Speaker 1: listeners are concerned, how are you doing, How are you
1:46:35
Speaker 1: holding up? How's life been since that? Are you know,
1:46:38
Speaker 1: are things improving for you? Because the devastation. I don't
1:46:42
Speaker 1: think I can comprehend it. I don't want to have to.
1:46:44
Speaker 12: No, I I'm the answer that I've and it's true,
1:46:49
Speaker 12: but I've I've learned to give to people as I'm
1:46:52
Speaker 12: building capacity. And one of the hardest things that I've
1:46:56
Speaker 12: actually learned through all of this, outside of you know,
1:47:00
Speaker 12: the negligence of the situation is that people, we're all
1:47:04
Speaker 12: grief illiterate. We really don't know how to handle this.
1:47:07
Speaker 12: Our society where people want to find they want to
1:47:12
Speaker 12: see you progress and get better, and of course there's
1:47:15
Speaker 12: concern of like how's your mental health? How are you
1:47:18
Speaker 12: holding up? It comes from a place of sincere kindness
1:47:23
Speaker 12: and wanting to make sure I'm okay. But it's something
1:47:28
Speaker 12: like this is not something you get over. No, it's
1:47:32
Speaker 12: not something that also needs to be fixed. It's something
1:47:35
Speaker 12: that just needs to be witnessed and held. And I'm
1:47:39
Speaker 12: actually very grateful that you provide a space for me
1:47:42
Speaker 12: to share part of my story and what's happening in
1:47:45
Speaker 12: order as part of that process to be able to
1:47:49
Speaker 12: look at something this devastating and not try to turn
1:47:51
Speaker 12: and hide from it.
1:47:52
Speaker 1: Amen. And you know, the only the parallel I'm going
1:47:54
Speaker 1: to try to draw here and I'm trying to be
1:47:56
Speaker 1: sensitive to the reality of what you just pointed out.
1:47:58
Speaker 1: I'm not living what you're living through, so how can
1:48:01
Speaker 1: I know? But I'm a man who at least cares
1:48:04
Speaker 1: enough to make to want to know that you're okay.
1:48:06
Speaker 1: You know, it's anything I can do, you know, And
1:48:08
Speaker 1: so people really delicately approach this subject. But gona lose
1:48:13
Speaker 1: my train of thought. But it's like when you're dealing
1:48:18
Speaker 1: with someone you know is struggling with depression and one
1:48:22
Speaker 1: of your reactions is or one of maybe someone who's
1:48:24
Speaker 1: not familiar with what it's like to have depression is
1:48:26
Speaker 1: once you just snap out of it. Here, let's walk
1:48:28
Speaker 1: through all the reasons life is great for you. You've
1:48:31
Speaker 1: got this, you've got that, You've got a wonderful wife
1:48:33
Speaker 1: or husband, you got your kid. How can you be depressed? Well,
1:48:38
Speaker 1: that reflects and ignorance about depression grief comparable. I mean,
1:48:43
Speaker 1: unless you've been there and done that. And everybody's different.
1:48:45
Speaker 1: Their life experiences are different up to that moment when
1:48:47
Speaker 1: they lose someone, so they're working with a different playing
1:48:50
Speaker 1: field than literally anybody else. But it's a struggle for
1:48:54
Speaker 1: us out here who really care to approach the subject
1:48:57
Speaker 1: just to let you know we really are concerned, And.
1:49:00
Speaker 9: I do I appreciate that.
1:49:01
Speaker 12: I think, you know, I think that's the whole point
1:49:04
Speaker 12: of what anyone can do is just say I can't
1:49:07
Speaker 12: fix this. I know my words aren't going to be enough,
1:49:10
Speaker 12: but I'm I'll be here with you. And presence is
1:49:14
Speaker 12: really all that anyone can ever offer someone in something
1:49:16
Speaker 12: like this, And so I do I appreciate it. So
1:49:19
Speaker 12: many people reach out and offer that, and if we're
1:49:24
Speaker 12: also going to put a spin on it to what
1:49:27
Speaker 12: is positive, I'm hoping that more people can really understand
1:49:31
Speaker 12: the process of grief and exactly that not trying to
1:49:34
Speaker 12: find silver linings. You don't need to fix it. You
1:49:36
Speaker 12: don't need to be the person that comes in and
1:49:38
Speaker 12: makes it better. You just need to walk with the
1:49:41
Speaker 12: person who you know who's experiencing it.
1:49:43
Speaker 1: Yeah, your presence alone may.
1:49:45
Speaker 9: Be enough, exactly. That's yeah.
1:49:47
Speaker 1: I supposed to try to become a therapist.
1:49:49
Speaker 9: Yes, yeah, yeah.
1:49:53
Speaker 1: Armchair therapy exactly. Yeah. I can certainly appreciate that. But
1:49:57
Speaker 1: are you are you working because you had the fitness
1:50:01
Speaker 1: clinic and over the rune that you ran with your
1:50:04
Speaker 1: late husband, and I know you had some success to that.
1:50:06
Speaker 1: You were big pop, you were popular in the over
1:50:08
Speaker 1: the right neighborhood in spite of the fact that people
1:50:10
Speaker 1: thought it appropriate to break into the place and commit
1:50:13
Speaker 1: property damage, which we can dive into maybe a little
1:50:15
Speaker 1: bit later, but I just want to see if if
1:50:16
Speaker 1: you're still engage employment and if that's helpful for you.
1:50:19
Speaker 12: Yeah, so right now I haven't. I mean, it's been
1:50:22
Speaker 12: about it's just been four months. And for me, I've
1:50:27
Speaker 12: taken this step out of this the capitalism and the
1:50:31
Speaker 12: rush of society and the time and it probably feels
1:50:35
Speaker 12: like so much longer for everyone else. And while it
1:50:38
Speaker 12: does feel really long, I'm like it's been four months.
1:50:43
Speaker 9: And so.
1:50:44
Speaker 12: The coaches that are at Friendly Movement, they're phenomenal. They've
1:50:47
Speaker 12: stepped up, they're running the place and they're continuing to
1:50:53
Speaker 12: do exactly what it needs to be, which is a
1:50:56
Speaker 12: community place where people can go and they can have support.
1:50:59
Speaker 12: And everyone there lost Patrick to as well. It's a
1:51:05
Speaker 12: it is a shared communal devastation. It's to your point.
1:51:09
Speaker 12: Patrick was a pillar in the OTR community. People knew him,
1:51:12
Speaker 12: they knew of him, and he did He touched hundreds
1:51:16
Speaker 12: of people's lives and was their coach, and so I
1:51:20
Speaker 12: have taken a step back in order to build capacity
1:51:25
Speaker 12: so I can re enter and to do what I
1:51:28
Speaker 12: need to do to feel the grief and not rush
1:51:30
Speaker 12: through it. But the gym is going strong. It's a
1:51:34
Speaker 12: great place and the coaches are killing it there.
1:51:37
Speaker 1: And you know you're in the over the Rhine area.
1:51:40
Speaker 1: Why not. Finley Movement is the name of the place
1:51:42
Speaker 1: in what street is.
1:51:43
Speaker 9: It's on Finley Street.
1:51:44
Speaker 1: Oh makes sense on Finley Street. So go ahead, you
1:51:49
Speaker 1: do some more exercising workout. We could all use more
1:51:51
Speaker 1: of that to make you feel better. It does, and
1:51:53
Speaker 1: you can support Sarah and we'll hopefully she'll be able
1:51:56
Speaker 1: to get back to work after she builds sufficient capacity
1:51:59
Speaker 1: to do that. Yeah, I like the way you characterize that.
1:52:02
Speaker 12: Yes, it's building, and I do. It's you know when
1:52:04
Speaker 12: you mentioned where people are at, I know one of
1:52:08
Speaker 12: the very few reasons as to I mean or there
1:52:11
Speaker 12: are there are probably a few, but one of them
1:52:13
Speaker 12: is what is your level of resiliency before something like
1:52:16
Speaker 12: this happens? And that is really what Patrick and I
1:52:20
Speaker 12: use the tool of fitness for. Was not just making
1:52:24
Speaker 12: your body look good at not aesthetics, but for health
1:52:27
Speaker 12: and long term resiliency. For because life is hard and
1:52:32
Speaker 12: if your workout is a little bit harder than the
1:52:34
Speaker 12: things that you deal with on a day to day life,
1:52:36
Speaker 12: then you're you're going to be well equipped to handle
1:52:38
Speaker 12: that kind of pain. And so to me, that's really
1:52:42
Speaker 12: what fitness has been, and it's it's helped build the
1:52:47
Speaker 12: what I need in order to continue to move forward.
1:52:50
Speaker 1: Well that's great, ye, little incentive for others to might
1:52:52
Speaker 1: go down that path as well. I know I am
1:52:54
Speaker 1: not one to speak to that because I am a sloth.
1:52:57
Speaker 1: I am lazy, and I'll admit it, and I hate
1:52:59
Speaker 1: my self for it. Don't hate yourself, Sarah Sarah Herringer,
1:53:04
Speaker 1: And can I observe before we come to the break here,
1:53:07
Speaker 1: I had said it to you off the air. If
1:53:08
Speaker 1: I'm sure my listeners have seen your late husband, he
1:53:12
Speaker 1: looks like the epitome of badassery when I see a
1:53:15
Speaker 1: photograph of him, like that guy came to kick some
1:53:19
Speaker 1: serious But yes, but that was the farthest thing from
1:53:21
Speaker 1: the truth, wasn't it.
1:53:22
Speaker 12: Yeah, he was very very kind. Most it surprised people
1:53:27
Speaker 12: once they got to know him. They're like Wow, that's
1:53:29
Speaker 12: really not what I expected. I kind of expected this meathead,
1:53:33
Speaker 12: kind of mongo looking tattooed guy, and he was incredibly
1:53:38
Speaker 12: intelligent and kind and a good listener and encouraged everyone
1:53:42
Speaker 12: and I and.
1:53:44
Speaker 9: That was one of my favorite things.
1:53:45
Speaker 12: That that being the shock of it all is they're like, oh, wow, okay, yes,
1:53:49
Speaker 12: there's really some depth here.
1:53:51
Speaker 1: And your posts, your Facebook posts, you've been very open
1:53:53
Speaker 1: and revealing, and the love that you had for your
1:53:56
Speaker 1: late husband comes through just crystal clear, and not averybody
1:54:01
Speaker 1: has a relationship like that, so I can certainly understand
1:54:03
Speaker 1: how profound this has impacted your life. More with Sarah Heringer,
1:54:07
Speaker 1: we're going to find about where the Patrick Herringer Act
1:54:10
Speaker 1: is because maybe we can bring about some reform and
1:54:12
Speaker 1: not let this man's life go to waste. And she's
1:54:15
Speaker 1: going to see that through eight fifteen right now, Stick around.
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Speaker 11: Folks, fifty five KRC.
1:54:20
Speaker 1: Are you looking for serious investment in the booming cleaning
1:54:23
Speaker 1: pack station? Coming up on eight nineteen Brian Thomas with
1:54:25
Speaker 1: Sarah Heringer. Of course she lost her husband. That tragic,
1:54:28
Speaker 1: awful should never have happened, stabbing and over the rhine
1:54:31
Speaker 1: in their apartment and just it's just really heartbreaking. And
1:54:36
Speaker 1: I'm so pleased that you're willing to talk about this
1:54:38
Speaker 1: because you have the opportunity, and I know you've been
1:54:40
Speaker 1: out working the phones and talking to people about getting
1:54:44
Speaker 1: some reform in terms of what it means to have
1:54:46
Speaker 1: an ankle monitor and what it might mean in terms
1:54:48
Speaker 1: of if someone cuts her ankle monitor off. We can't
1:54:51
Speaker 1: let this kind of thing happen again. We have I mean,
1:54:53
Speaker 1: we live in a modern society where they can figure
1:54:55
Speaker 1: out where we are. Any time you got a cell phone, boyd,
1:54:59
Speaker 1: they are tracking right in on you. We can find
1:55:03
Speaker 1: a Mexican drug cartel submarine underwater two thousand miles away.
1:55:07
Speaker 1: I think we can find a guy local who's cut
1:55:09
Speaker 1: his ankle monitor off. But that wasn't happening. Is again,
1:55:12
Speaker 1: the murder of your husband was out free from February
1:55:15
Speaker 1: up until June. After cutting off his ankle monitor, nothing
1:55:19
Speaker 1: apparently happened. Have you gotten any answers to why that is?
1:55:23
Speaker 1: I mean, clearly there's a Patrick Herringder Act being discussed
1:55:26
Speaker 1: now in Columbus, and we'll get to the details on
1:55:27
Speaker 1: that in a minute. But what have you learned since then?
1:55:30
Speaker 12: Sarah as far as ankle monitors go or what happened well.
1:55:35
Speaker 1: Whether specifically with him or just the whole thing seems
1:55:38
Speaker 1: to have been a broken concept from the get go,
1:55:41
Speaker 1: and your husband is the tragic result of or what
1:55:44
Speaker 1: can happen when it isn't working.
1:55:46
Speaker 9: Yeah, I mean that.
1:55:49
Speaker 12: So from the state level that is who parole and
1:55:55
Speaker 12: when it comes to monitoring the ankle monitors, that would
1:55:57
Speaker 12: be on the state level, not the city level. So
1:56:01
Speaker 12: part of the Patrick Krenger Act is getting all of
1:56:03
Speaker 12: those agencies, uh, local, state, and even outside of Hamilton
1:56:10
Speaker 12: County like pretty much anyone around when uh, someone goes
1:56:15
Speaker 12: a wall, cuts off an ankle monitor doesn't report in.
1:56:18
Speaker 1: Or strays from their geo fencing. I mean yes, listen,
1:56:20
Speaker 1: if you have a dog, now you don't need to
1:56:22
Speaker 1: put a wire in the yard anymore. You just program
1:56:24
Speaker 1: program and it creates and established as a geofence. These
1:56:27
Speaker 1: people are limited where they can go. You have to
1:56:29
Speaker 1: stack on your own residential property, put a geofence along
1:56:32
Speaker 1: the property line. Boom, problem solve. He goes out of
1:56:33
Speaker 1: the property line. Sadly, it doesn't shock them. No, can
1:56:36
Speaker 1: imagine it gave.
1:56:38
Speaker 9: If it did.
1:56:39
Speaker 12: Yes, Yeah, and U. I mean, the entire thing shows
1:56:46
Speaker 12: that it favors criminals and not and not public safety.
1:56:50
Speaker 12: And the it's the criminals and those obviously we know
1:56:54
Speaker 12: people in the Senate and law enforcement. They know that
1:56:58
Speaker 12: ankle monitors don't report in real time. When he cut
1:57:02
Speaker 12: off his ankle monitor, you know, I would have thought
1:57:05
Speaker 12: alarms would have sounded all of that. That's not how
1:57:09
Speaker 12: they were notified. He skipped a meeting with a parole officer,
1:57:13
Speaker 12: and that's how they know that he then went missing.
1:57:17
Speaker 12: And just recently in Hamilton County they passed where they
1:57:21
Speaker 12: reduced the parole officers. They took them out of the field.
1:57:25
Speaker 12: So there used to be twelve, they cut it down
1:57:27
Speaker 12: to six. They took them out of the field, and
1:57:30
Speaker 12: they put them in an office building and are incentivizing
1:57:35
Speaker 12: now people on parole to have to go and check
1:57:39
Speaker 12: in with their parole officer. They're giving them like reds
1:57:42
Speaker 12: tickets and gift cards and all of that. And I'm like,
1:57:47
Speaker 12: I don't get incentive. I I don't get that to
1:57:51
Speaker 12: just behave And so these are people that need to
1:57:54
Speaker 12: prove that they can integrate into society, and that's how
1:57:58
Speaker 12: there It's like dangling a piece of candy in order
1:58:01
Speaker 12: for them show up at something that they are legally
1:58:06
Speaker 12: already required to do.
1:58:08
Speaker 1: Right, That's where I was going to go, because a
1:58:11
Speaker 1: penalty for violin in the terms of your parole, which
1:58:13
Speaker 1: includes showing up at your parole officer meetings, would be
1:58:16
Speaker 1: ready to go back.
1:58:16
Speaker 9: To jail exactly to serve the rest of your.
1:58:18
Speaker 1: Time or no, we got to give a candy bar.
1:58:20
Speaker 12: Exactly, And so that that happened, that slipped through that
1:58:25
Speaker 12: change that not a lot of people are aware of.
1:58:28
Speaker 9: This is.
1:58:30
Speaker 12: This is something that has been an effect in Franklin County,
1:58:33
Speaker 12: and the FOP up in Franklin County has said that
1:58:37
Speaker 12: they haven't seen better.
1:58:40
Speaker 10: Uh.
1:58:40
Speaker 12: He talked with Ken Kober and to basically because I
1:58:46
Speaker 12: was asking questions about this, like, well, if this isn't
1:58:48
Speaker 12: Franklin County, they're touting that this is, you know, a
1:58:51
Speaker 12: proven system. We're going to rank criminals on a levels
1:58:54
Speaker 12: one through four. People with a level one probably don't
1:58:58
Speaker 12: even have to check in at all. Criminals are also
1:59:01
Speaker 12: part of ranking themselves, so as long as they have
1:59:04
Speaker 12: an answer to the test, they know how to get
1:59:06
Speaker 12: a lower classification. Yeah, this is wow.
1:59:09
Speaker 9: This is where.
1:59:10
Speaker 12: And then we've just now in Hamilton County downtown they
1:59:13
Speaker 12: closed the field office and it's like you already have
1:59:18
Speaker 12: you know we when we dug and looked up up numbers,
1:59:21
Speaker 12: it's like, you already have one hundred and thirty a
1:59:24
Speaker 12: wall criminals, fifty two of them are violent, and you're
1:59:27
Speaker 12: reducing the man power to go and find them.
1:59:32
Speaker 9: You're making it.
1:59:33
Speaker 12: And then and you also have these systems that initially
1:59:38
Speaker 12: they they sense changed the policy the state did because
1:59:41
Speaker 12: when he went missing, they put in a notification and
1:59:45
Speaker 12: they're saying, okay, even though that was procedure. The one
1:59:49
Speaker 12: of the things with the Patrick Herrenger Act is going
1:59:51
Speaker 12: to make it a law instead of procedure that not
1:59:55
Speaker 12: only do they issue a warrant, but they also have
1:59:57
Speaker 12: to reach out to local months of PA and notify
2:00:01
Speaker 12: them immediately. What you would have thought, I was like,
2:00:04
Speaker 12: what is the Fugitive Apprehension Unit doing?
2:00:07
Speaker 1: Right?
2:00:08
Speaker 12: Why do we have them if they're not going to
2:00:10
Speaker 12: also back up and go and find these people?
2:00:13
Speaker 1: These they got a right they have fugitive on the
2:00:16
Speaker 1: run large.
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Speaker 9: Yes, these criminals are out endive shooter.
2:00:19
Speaker 1: I mean, oh, we have a formerly active shooter who's
2:00:21
Speaker 1: on parole and ankle monitor who's run amok and is
2:00:24
Speaker 1: at large right now.
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Speaker 9: Well, and they do yes, and they do it with
2:00:29
Speaker 9: sex criminals.
2:00:30
Speaker 1: Yeah, a register where you live exactly, and it's like
2:00:33
Speaker 1: a database.
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Speaker 12: Yeah, let's put some teeth into having far more accountability.
2:00:38
Speaker 12: These people are have broken the law and have shown
2:00:41
Speaker 12: us multiple times that they don't have an interest in
2:00:44
Speaker 12: following the rules of society, and so there needs to
2:00:47
Speaker 12: be a little bit more earning that trust and having
2:00:51
Speaker 12: transparency and accountability with that process.
2:00:54
Speaker 1: Supposed to be what the criminal justice system is for exactly,
2:00:57
Speaker 1: not a rewards program. More with Sarah Herringer. It's right
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Speaker 1: fifty five KRS Morning show ctitio the murder of her
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Speaker 1: husband in their own apartment and over the rhine. My
2:01:18
Speaker 1: listeners all are painfully aware about that. Of course, it's
2:01:21
Speaker 1: been a subject of conversation here in the city of Cincinnati,
2:01:23
Speaker 1: given the elections coming up, and up until a moment
2:01:26
Speaker 1: in time ago have to have Provall was saying, don't
2:01:28
Speaker 1: believe your eyes and your ears. We don't have a
2:01:30
Speaker 1: crime problem. And Sarah's raising her hand, going, oh really,
2:01:33
Speaker 1: let me tell you about my life up to the
2:01:35
Speaker 1: moment my husband was murdered in my apartment. And over
2:01:37
Speaker 1: the Rhine. You talked about that last time you were here,
2:01:40
Speaker 1: regular gunfire, so much so that it was it became
2:01:44
Speaker 1: a norm in your life. It was, oh more gunfire. Okay,
2:01:47
Speaker 1: you know, it's another day in the over the Rhine, right,
2:01:49
Speaker 1: And so we have big issues coming up to the election.
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Speaker 1: I'm not sure if people are paying attention. And I
2:01:55
Speaker 1: want to be optimistic, but the more I hear about
2:01:58
Speaker 1: the way things are, the more I think I shouldn't
2:02:00
Speaker 1: hold my breath for that. But let's move back to
2:02:02
Speaker 1: Patrick Herringer Act, which is going to hopefully resolve some
2:02:05
Speaker 1: of the massive holes we found out exist in the
2:02:08
Speaker 1: ankle monitoring program, one of which I just learned off
2:02:12
Speaker 1: the air. Now, listeners, are you of the mind and
2:02:16
Speaker 1: unless you know something about the system more than I do.
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Speaker 1: Are you of the mind that when someone cuts off
2:02:21
Speaker 1: their ankle or otherwise leaves their geo fencing, that somewhere,
2:02:24
Speaker 1: some office or some computer, an alarm goes off at
2:02:28
Speaker 1: the moment that happens. Guess what, No, it doesn't, Sarah,
2:02:33
Speaker 1: tell them how that works.
2:02:35
Speaker 12: Yeah there, I mean you had painted such a fun
2:02:38
Speaker 12: picture where you imagine there are these people in this room, yeah,
2:02:42
Speaker 12: looking at these screens waiting for something to just trigger it. Yes, exactly,
2:02:49
Speaker 12: the ankle monitor went off. Let's go get them, you know.
2:02:52
Speaker 12: And there's not resources we just talked in the earlier segment.
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Speaker 12: They're actually removing resource is away from the parole program
2:03:03
Speaker 12: and changing the infrastructure of that. But the ankle monitors
2:03:06
Speaker 12: are not even a GPS. It's more of it. It's
2:03:10
Speaker 12: like a pinging. It's like when you're doing cell phone
2:03:14
Speaker 12: location versus in real time watching them walk down the
2:03:17
Speaker 12: street on like Google Maps.
2:03:19
Speaker 9: So he the.
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Speaker 12: Reason how they were were notified was not when he
2:03:24
Speaker 12: the moment he cut it off, but when he didn't
2:03:26
Speaker 12: show up to a parole and that's when it will then. Okay,
2:03:31
Speaker 12: it's basically this guy is he's not shown up, you
2:03:35
Speaker 12: can ping it to look to see like in a
2:03:37
Speaker 12: vicinity in an area of where they are the parole officer.
2:03:40
Speaker 1: That's they go to the garbage can as I joked
2:03:43
Speaker 1: about it on Eighth Street.
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Speaker 12: Okay, you know, and if that happened with with in
2:03:49
Speaker 12: this circumstance, I don't know the you know, the granular
2:03:53
Speaker 12: details as far as that goes, but just how it
2:03:55
Speaker 12: works overall, that's how ankle monitors work.
2:03:58
Speaker 9: They're not tracking in real time time.
2:04:00
Speaker 12: And you see that because we know there are hundreds
2:04:05
Speaker 12: of people on parole that have cut off their ankle
2:04:08
Speaker 12: monitors in the state of Ohio and are a wall.
2:04:12
Speaker 12: We know about the ones in Hamilton County. So but
2:04:17
Speaker 12: the other problem that we're also seeing and have come
2:04:20
Speaker 12: up lately and even with the Reagan toques of why
2:04:23
Speaker 12: these needs to monitor in real time there needs to
2:04:26
Speaker 12: be more teeth in this program is many criminals commit
2:04:30
Speaker 12: crimes with them.
2:04:31
Speaker 1: On Yeah, they do.
2:04:34
Speaker 12: So it's really you know, it isn't it's not a
2:04:39
Speaker 12: security fence. It doesn't keep them within a zone. It's
2:04:43
Speaker 12: not this massive alarm system. There's not a ton of
2:04:47
Speaker 12: man power monitoring these people. And they are aware of that.
2:04:54
Speaker 12: And so what's The problem is is the public isn't
2:05:00
Speaker 12: educated on this in order to call up cynd abrams
2:05:03
Speaker 12: or their state senators or you know, demand change, yes,
2:05:09
Speaker 12: action and reformation within these programs because we are blind
2:05:16
Speaker 12: and thinking that there's some teeth to this and that
2:05:19
Speaker 12: a criminal with an ankle monitor is truly being watched
2:05:22
Speaker 12: when they're really not well.
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Speaker 1: I mean, an Apple air tag thing would do a
2:05:28
Speaker 1: better job than an ankle monitor. It's real time monitoring.
2:05:32
Speaker 1: And I know technology has existed for years that if
2:05:36
Speaker 1: you have the appropriate tracking device, it will map out
2:05:39
Speaker 1: where that person has been. You'll get this full day's
2:05:42
Speaker 1: activity of where they went, did they leave their their
2:05:44
Speaker 1: geofens location, So you could recreate potential parole violations by
2:05:49
Speaker 1: looking back at the history of you know, the data
2:05:52
Speaker 1: that's been tracked. I imagine that the current ankle monitors
2:05:55
Speaker 1: don't do that either.
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Speaker 12: No, and that's and if you're going to remove the manpower,
2:05:59
Speaker 12: and like you're right, technology has advanced and so you
2:06:04
Speaker 12: if you use the right technology, you probably could lower
2:06:08
Speaker 12: the man power as far as that goes. But you
2:06:11
Speaker 12: can't do both. You can't have this archaic technology that's
2:06:16
Speaker 12: not really serving the purpose that it's designed or was
2:06:20
Speaker 12: the intent of what we set it out, and then
2:06:22
Speaker 12: also remove people who can be the monitors in real
2:06:27
Speaker 12: time and who were initially supposed to write. The parole
2:06:30
Speaker 12: officer was supposed to be out in the community. They're
2:06:32
Speaker 12: supposed to know these people, they're supposed to watch them
2:06:35
Speaker 12: show up, they have these regular check ins. They're there
2:06:38
Speaker 12: to make sure they're integrating into society. And now you've
2:06:41
Speaker 12: also removed that as well. So it can't be both.
2:06:43
Speaker 1: It cannot be both. Well, continue with Sarah Heringer kind
2:06:46
Speaker 1: of not to come in the studio today talk about
2:06:47
Speaker 1: these very important issues and probably going to issue a
2:06:50
Speaker 1: call to action. I think I can do it right now.
2:06:53
Speaker 1: You know the legislation is up there, Patrick Heringer act
2:06:56
Speaker 1: and who would you, I mean, just your elected official,
2:06:59
Speaker 1: your state representative, your state senator, wherever neighborhood you happen
2:07:01
Speaker 1: to be in, call them up, send them an email,
2:07:03
Speaker 1: sent them a text, yes, tell them, move forward. Let's
2:07:06
Speaker 1: get this out of committee, let's get it voted on,
2:07:08
Speaker 1: let's get it in acted. We need some reform for
2:07:11
Speaker 1: the safety and security of the residents of the state
2:07:13
Speaker 1: of Ohio. Or with Sarah Heringer coming up next.
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Speaker 10: The talk station.
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Speaker 1: Seven thirty nine. I think you. I have KERCD talk
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Speaker 1: station right Thomas with Sarah Herringer in studio, widow of
2:07:28
Speaker 1: Patrick Herringer again murdered and over the rhine in their home.
2:07:31
Speaker 1: And of course the NCO monitor. We've talked about that.
2:07:33
Speaker 1: There is legislation. It's up there in Columbus and you
2:07:36
Speaker 1: can call your representatives and your senators and ask them
2:07:39
Speaker 1: where it is, the Patrick Herringer Act. Will it come
2:07:41
Speaker 1: out of committee anytime soon? Will we get some reform
2:07:43
Speaker 1: that seems to be overly needed? Guess what, it's twenty
2:07:47
Speaker 1: twenty five. We've got new technology that's not fifteen twenty
2:07:49
Speaker 1: years old, apparently, and it might work. So inquiring minds
2:07:54
Speaker 1: want to know Sarah. Apparently Christopher Smithman among others listening
2:07:57
Speaker 1: right now, and it was the topic that you and
2:07:59
Speaker 1: I were talking about. What we got the text message
2:08:01
Speaker 1: and the message from Streker. Hey, what's the story on
2:08:04
Speaker 1: the mayor? Has the mayor reached out to you? And
2:08:05
Speaker 1: have you heard anything from any of the council members?
2:08:08
Speaker 1: So let's answer their questions and mine what's going on
2:08:11
Speaker 1: on that level, Sarah, Well.
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Speaker 12: I was. I mean, you said it so well. The
2:08:14
Speaker 12: silences is deafening. And I before we went on the segment,
2:08:20
Speaker 12: I was going to say, yes, reach out, but also
2:08:22
Speaker 12: reach out to Aftab and ask what he's done for
2:08:25
Speaker 12: safety reform. And he's got a lot of influence standing
2:08:29
Speaker 12: behind him. If there's someone who should be reaching out
2:08:32
Speaker 12: to state representatives and trying to get a law passed
2:08:35
Speaker 12: on that level, you would think you would.
2:08:38
Speaker 9: Be pretty helpful with that, you would.
2:08:40
Speaker 12: Yeah, And no one on city council has reached out.
2:08:45
Speaker 12: John Cranley reached out when he found out he's not
2:08:48
Speaker 12: exactly and was, you know, is there anything I can
2:08:51
Speaker 12: help you with? Is there anyone who I can connect
2:08:53
Speaker 12: you with? And that's someone who no longer holds political
2:09:00
Speaker 12: but has influence and wants to help. And so when
2:09:05
Speaker 12: I met with Aftab and he said I'll do whatever
2:09:07
Speaker 12: it takes to help you pass any type of laws,
2:09:10
Speaker 12: It's like, well, you know, we need to see action.
2:09:12
Speaker 12: And I think that's something that this entire time I've
2:09:16
Speaker 12: been saying is the people who are currently in office
2:09:20
Speaker 12: care far more about optics than they do about action,
2:09:24
Speaker 12: and that's something that voters need to be considering. Hopefully
2:09:28
Speaker 12: that gets people out of their seats and gets them
2:09:31
Speaker 12: down into the voting booths next month, because the current
2:09:34
Speaker 12: administration has done nothing to try to make sure that
2:09:37
Speaker 12: they're safer than they were in June.
2:09:40
Speaker 1: Well, as I told you, and I can let my
2:09:43
Speaker 1: listeners know the little story. I think it was talking
2:09:45
Speaker 1: with Christopher Smith and who's running for council. Of course
2:09:48
Speaker 1: he goes door to door and how many times people
2:09:52
Speaker 1: residents of the City of Cincinnati in the weeks leading
2:09:55
Speaker 1: up to the election, which is the first week in November,
2:09:57
Speaker 1: everybody that they don't even know there's election coming up.
2:10:00
Speaker 1: I mean with a straight phase to say, oh, we
2:10:02
Speaker 1: have an election coming up, like yeah, you can vote
2:10:05
Speaker 1: for the mayor and nine city council members. That someone
2:10:07
Speaker 1: could live in the City of Cincinnati and be so
2:10:10
Speaker 1: politically oblivious is to not know that all important election
2:10:16
Speaker 1: is coming up and something that they might be able
2:10:18
Speaker 1: to have an impact on their own neighborhood.
2:10:21
Speaker 9: Absolutely.
2:10:21
Speaker 12: I mean local politics is really where you have the
2:10:24
Speaker 12: most amount of control and where it affects you the most,
2:10:27
Speaker 12: quite honestly, and you know, everyone they get wrapped up
2:10:32
Speaker 12: if they do vote on the national level. But right now, Yeah,
2:10:35
Speaker 12: if you live in the city and you want to
2:10:38
Speaker 12: see your neighborhoods get safer, who you vote in in
2:10:42
Speaker 12: this next election is going to make a difference as
2:10:45
Speaker 12: to whether we see that improve or we see it
2:10:47
Speaker 12: to continue to rot and fall apart.
2:10:49
Speaker 1: What's your reaction. I mean, up until only recently, as
2:10:53
Speaker 1: I said earlier, in a moment of time ago, Aftab
2:10:55
Speaker 1: said there was no crime problem in the city Cincinnati,
2:10:59
Speaker 1: And now he's over to saying public safety is our
2:11:03
Speaker 1: number one or has always been our number one priority.
2:11:06
Speaker 1: That's what he's saying now as we fast a close
2:11:08
Speaker 1: pro the election. What's your reaction to that sort of
2:11:11
Speaker 1: bipolar reality of what he's saying.
2:11:13
Speaker 12: Well, I mean, if people are paying attention, they see
2:11:16
Speaker 12: the conflict, right they And initially they had released the
2:11:20
Speaker 12: CPD had released saying, hey, look, crime's down during winter,
2:11:25
Speaker 12: and then in the very next press conference, the chief says,
2:11:28
Speaker 12: we knew things were going to ramp up. So it's
2:11:31
Speaker 12: what is it? Is crime down or did you know
2:11:33
Speaker 12: it was going to ramp up? What is it we
2:11:36
Speaker 12: don't have a crime problem? Or Aftab said safety is
2:11:39
Speaker 12: our first, second, and third priority, So which one is it.
2:11:44
Speaker 12: He's also now throwing out numbers. Data is confusing or
2:11:47
Speaker 12: he doesn't want to deal with it. He's like, oh,
2:11:49
Speaker 12: let's not look at the data. People don't feel safe
2:11:52
Speaker 12: and their feelings aren't And it's like people, I'm it's
2:11:56
Speaker 12: not down to whether I felt safe or not. We
2:11:59
Speaker 12: were not safe. People in OTR are not safe. And
2:12:04
Speaker 12: what has changed? And now you know, they're either a
2:12:08
Speaker 12: great distraction and probably doing the right thing too with
2:12:12
Speaker 12: scrutinizing the chief. But you know, if you have to
2:12:17
Speaker 12: look over the last the question that voters should be
2:12:19
Speaker 12: asking themselves is are they safer in the city than
2:12:22
Speaker 12: they were four years ago?
2:12:23
Speaker 1: That's a great way of putting it, you know. And Sarah,
2:12:26
Speaker 1: I used to work in over the Rhine back in
2:12:28
Speaker 1: the eighties, a place called Harry's Meats and Seafood. It's
2:12:31
Speaker 1: not there anymore. It was across from the Central Stand
2:12:34
Speaker 1: and I would walk back and forth to my car,
2:12:37
Speaker 1: you know, white kid from del High In. This is
2:12:41
Speaker 1: pre rehabilitation and pre gentrification of Over the Rhine. So
2:12:46
Speaker 1: it probably was at its lowest point in terms of
2:12:48
Speaker 1: relative to where it is right now before Washington Park
2:12:51
Speaker 1: had been rehabilitated. I mean, so much has changed down there.
2:12:54
Speaker 1: I never never even thought about crime, going back and
2:12:57
Speaker 1: forth to that business. And at one point, remember Chris Geiger,
2:13:01
Speaker 1: who was the one of the owners, he gave me
2:13:04
Speaker 1: several thousand dollars in cash from the register, put it
2:13:07
Speaker 1: in a paper bag and handed it to me. I
2:13:09
Speaker 1: got my butcher's smock on, and he told me to
2:13:12
Speaker 1: walk it up to the bank, which was like five
2:13:14
Speaker 1: six blocks down up the hill, and you know, here,
2:13:17
Speaker 1: go ahead. And I thought that was the first time
2:13:19
Speaker 1: I ever felt like I maybe I was concerned, but
2:13:22
Speaker 1: nothing ever happened. Yeah, I didn't feel there weren't gunshots
2:13:25
Speaker 1: going off, and there weren't people doing drugs on the corner.
2:13:29
Speaker 1: And it was supposed to be a worse place then
2:13:31
Speaker 1: than it is now. It's I don't know, it's just
2:13:34
Speaker 1: always standing amazement on that. We're going to continue with
2:13:36
Speaker 1: Sarah Heringer. We got one more here on a Friday
2:13:39
Speaker 1: see Deep Talk station. It's eight forty nine here fifty
2:13:44
Speaker 1: five KRCD Talk station Brian Thomas with Sarah Herringer obviously
2:13:48
Speaker 1: recueuing the fact that Sarah's and study because her husband
2:13:51
Speaker 1: was murdered in their apartment and over the right, and
2:13:52
Speaker 1: you were north of Liberty, right, Fimily market area one
2:13:56
Speaker 1: block north. Different circumstance south of Liberty than north the Liberty.
2:14:00
Speaker 1: Is that your perception? Because I keep hearing about the
2:14:02
Speaker 1: primary crime problem is north of Liberty and there hasn't
2:14:05
Speaker 1: been as much quote unquote gentrification there. But by that,
2:14:09
Speaker 1: even if that is true, I know there is this
2:14:11
Speaker 1: significant spillover effect. Clearly crime is all the way down
2:14:15
Speaker 1: to the banks. So yes, given that crime is such
2:14:19
Speaker 1: an important issue as we go into the election, MARY
2:14:23
Speaker 1: have to have Purvol's reaction to the offer of assistance
2:14:26
Speaker 1: from governor to Wine. He did offer thirty days a
2:14:30
Speaker 1: full month's worth, month after month of four free additional
2:14:34
Speaker 1: Aiso State patrol resources. And since we're not enough, we
2:14:37
Speaker 1: don't have enough contingent of police officers. We're down one hundred,
2:14:39
Speaker 1: one hundred and fifty two hundred. It's like a moving target.
2:14:42
Speaker 1: But given morale and the number of officers that are
2:14:44
Speaker 1: not happy with their situation, we're losing them every day.
2:14:47
Speaker 1: We can't fill the ranks and up we can't get
2:14:49
Speaker 1: up to what is a normal contingent. Christopher Smithman suggested, well,
2:14:53
Speaker 1: you know we should Pervoll took two days and then
2:14:55
Speaker 1: he said, we'll take four days worth of OSP on
2:14:57
Speaker 1: a monthly basis. Now, if you're getting offered something for free,
2:15:00
Speaker 1: and you are missing already an objectively accurate, say one
2:15:06
Speaker 1: hundred officers from your contingent, you want to put more
2:15:09
Speaker 1: people on patrol because the presence of police alone can
2:15:14
Speaker 1: reduce crime. It's like having your late husband in the room.
2:15:16
Speaker 1: No one's going to start any crap with your husband
2:15:18
Speaker 1: in the room because look at him, and this guy's
2:15:20
Speaker 1: going to be able to handle himself. Coh that's exactly
2:15:22
Speaker 1: the effect that they have. So wouldn't you I would say,
2:15:25
Speaker 1: and Christoper would say, take enough resources from the state
2:15:28
Speaker 1: to get us to a contingent where we're that we're
2:15:32
Speaker 1: supposed to him, and see if it has an impact.
2:15:34
Speaker 1: Is it really the lack of officers and the lack of
2:15:37
Speaker 1: officer presence. We can find that out for free grabby officers.
2:15:40
Speaker 9: Absolutely.
2:15:42
Speaker 1: So what I mean your respond your reaction to have
2:15:45
Speaker 1: to have Purwoll's take on all this, since he's finally
2:15:48
Speaker 1: acknowledged that crime is a problem.
2:15:51
Speaker 12: Well, I actions are what speak right and you want
2:15:55
Speaker 12: to see Ultimately, if something is working, a result is
2:16:01
Speaker 12: Aftab hasn't admitted something is broken. So how why would
2:16:04
Speaker 12: he go to means of fixing something if he thinks
2:16:07
Speaker 12: everything is fine? And that's really that's the what you
2:16:12
Speaker 12: have to look for. Is there an admittance of what
2:16:14
Speaker 12: we're doing isn't enough. Something's broken, it needs fixing.
2:16:18
Speaker 1: Maybe getting rid of the chief of police, right, that's see,
2:16:22
Speaker 1: that's him trying to say, well, the thing that's broken
2:16:24
Speaker 1: is police chief Threesy Thigi, who two weeks ago I
2:16:28
Speaker 1: was standing arm in arm with talking about what a
2:16:30
Speaker 1: great job she's doing, only to find out that no,
2:16:33
Speaker 1: we're going to do an investigation to find out, well
2:16:35
Speaker 1: why chief police Chiefdji's doing such a bad job. This
2:16:38
Speaker 1: is all smoking mirror, Sarah, you know what sent I regret.
2:16:42
Speaker 12: I was going to write on it saying I guarantee
2:16:45
Speaker 12: you before the election he will.
2:16:47
Speaker 9: Get rid of her.
2:16:48
Speaker 12: And I think it is it's I've heard it's one
2:16:50
Speaker 12: or the other, right, Like she's either only a scapegoat
2:16:54
Speaker 12: or she's incompetent at her job, and it's like, why
2:16:57
Speaker 12: can't it be both?
2:16:59
Speaker 9: Maybe that's why they put her.
2:17:02
Speaker 12: You know, and it's and I want to offer respect
2:17:05
Speaker 12: to her as a human being. I've been I've seen
2:17:08
Speaker 12: what people say about people online, and she is a
2:17:11
Speaker 12: human and we can still we should be critical. She's
2:17:15
Speaker 12: been chief of police for three years. Again, the question
2:17:18
Speaker 12: is has crime gotten better or worse? Let's be objective
2:17:22
Speaker 12: here with that. She rightfully so should be removed from position.
2:17:27
Speaker 12: And I don't think that's enough.
2:17:30
Speaker 1: But removed from the position. And here's where I think
2:17:33
Speaker 1: all the errors are going to ultimately point hand selected
2:17:36
Speaker 1: by Cheryl Long and have to have purvol over the
2:17:39
Speaker 1: interests of the police officers. The police officers were asked,
2:17:41
Speaker 1: they said, do not put police chief or put Fiji
2:17:45
Speaker 1: in that job. No, no, we're putting her in.
2:17:47
Speaker 12: They wanted Lisa Davis, who's now the chief of police
2:17:49
Speaker 12: for Austin, Texas.
2:17:50
Speaker 1: Yeah, they are her boss. They have the power over
2:17:54
Speaker 1: hiring and firing. Can I imagine during an interview, if
2:17:57
Speaker 1: you're talking about appointing someone the police chief, you might
2:17:59
Speaker 1: want to ask if you questions, we are you willing
2:18:01
Speaker 1: to follow this administration's directives? We are your boss? And
2:18:04
Speaker 1: I'm certain she did. Yeah, you know this woke police
2:18:07
Speaker 1: department reimagining the police department, you know, the whole defund
2:18:09
Speaker 1: the police concept with parvol embraced. And so did some
2:18:12
Speaker 1: council members that she followed their directive, did what they
2:18:15
Speaker 1: were told, found out lo and behold, more crime, less cops,
2:18:19
Speaker 1: more crime. This is not the path you go. See Portland,
2:18:21
Speaker 1: see San Francisco, every other city's tried this. And so
2:18:25
Speaker 1: she's being let go and her position analyzed because she
2:18:28
Speaker 1: was doing exactly what the administrator want. Hook in the
2:18:30
Speaker 1: mirror aftab.
2:18:31
Speaker 9: Yes, one hundred percent.
2:18:32
Speaker 12: And that's but I think that's it's the story that
2:18:36
Speaker 12: he wants, right, Oh, it's it's not me. It's the
2:18:40
Speaker 12: police that can't handle it. And that's why they put
2:18:44
Speaker 12: her in that position, and that's why they're having her
2:18:45
Speaker 12: fall on the sword right now.
2:18:48
Speaker 1: Elections have consequences, and i'd like to see the more
2:18:50
Speaker 1: voter turn out in downtown Cincinnati beyond the Sherry Poland's
2:18:54
Speaker 1: predicting about twenty five percent board of election. Sherry Poland's
2:18:57
Speaker 1: been She's done this dance for decades, so I consider
2:19:00
Speaker 1: her projection to be an accurate one. Wouldn't it be nice
2:19:03
Speaker 1: if more people showed up, sir.
2:19:05
Speaker 12: They need to, They need to get out, they need
2:19:07
Speaker 12: to vote, and you know, change up city council for sure.
2:19:12
Speaker 12: There's some really good people in the running for that,
2:19:15
Speaker 12: and they if they care about the trajectory and business owners.
2:19:20
Speaker 12: I mean, downtown is full of local business owners and
2:19:25
Speaker 12: even for the safety and the profitability of their business.
2:19:28
Speaker 12: This is something people really need to be considering. Otherwise
2:19:31
Speaker 12: we might be seeing a Cincinnati that looks, you know,
2:19:35
Speaker 12: twenty years ago, when it was a ghost town after
2:19:37
Speaker 12: five o'clock, whenever one left the banks.
2:19:39
Speaker 1: It was I remember when Nick Clintey was a reporter.
2:19:42
Speaker 1: He would do editorials back in the eighties, and I
2:19:45
Speaker 1: remember him making this profound statement, Cincinnati's dead. There is
2:19:49
Speaker 1: no point in coming down here other than going to
2:19:51
Speaker 1: the office. There's nothing to do here. And what a
2:19:55
Speaker 1: world of change has happened in Cincinnati. The one problem crime.
2:19:58
Speaker 12: Crime, And during COVID the suburbs thrived. They had to build,
2:20:02
Speaker 12: they had to, you know. And so if it's not
2:20:05
Speaker 12: the same ballgame anymore, if you want people coming downtown,
2:20:09
Speaker 12: they have to feel as safe as they do out
2:20:11
Speaker 12: in the suburbs.
2:20:12
Speaker 1: No one's there right now. Sarah Herringer God bless you
2:20:14
Speaker 1: for the time you spent my listeners of me today.
2:20:16
Speaker 1: I'll pray for you and hope you continue building up
2:20:20
Speaker 1: the strength and courage to move on and move forward.
2:20:22
Speaker 1: We hope to see you back at the gym, and
2:20:24
Speaker 1: I'll encourage my listeners get down over the Rhine and.
2:20:27
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